1 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your 2 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: war room for incenter news and draft analysis from deep 3 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: within the confines of Cowboys headquarters at the Star in Fresco, 4 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys like d Lamb and now your hosts. Brian 5 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: brought us, David Hellman, Bucky Brooks, and Kyle Yeoman's. Oh, 6 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: welcome into the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. We 7 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: are here on a beautiful Tuesday, and maybe a little 8 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: bit late because technical difficulty that run rambit throughout the 9 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: backside of the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. But 10 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: we are here and we are ready to bring you 11 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: draft coverage on what is Senior Bowl week. We are 12 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: ninety days out from the NFL Draft, and well this 13 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: is a great week for grabbing all of that information 14 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: and finding our way to the NFL Draft. Welcome in everybody. 15 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: Kyle Yeoman's alongside David Hellman. Brian brought us who are 16 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: the normal cast of characters here on the Tuesday edition 17 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: of the show, But we had some trouble connecting with 18 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,199 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks. He'll be on Thursday. Instead. We have gotten 19 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 1: Jeff Cavanall to come in out of the bullpen. Just 20 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: real easy, always ready to come in and pitch in relief. 21 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: And Jeff, thanks for joining us so quickly. I mean, 22 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: I know you had a lot of setup to do. 23 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: I know that snow globe is holding up your phone 24 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: right now quite nicely. Well, I don't think that the 25 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: audience can see that, Kyle, So you're not supposed to 26 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: mention that I'm gone. I'm already taken a coverture of it. Yes, 27 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: I have a book on top of a bottle of 28 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: scotch and my phone sittings on the book, and then 29 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: the snow globe holds the phone up from not falling over. 30 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: But yeah, I never have anything going on in life, 31 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: So anytime you need me, I'm here. And there's tacos 32 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: at the door, but who cares if they're going to 33 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: be cold. You know, let's do the draft. Well, look, 34 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: we're just like we're just like the NFL teams that 35 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: are putting this thing together. Like sometimes you might not 36 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: have a combine, you might not be able to watch workouts. 37 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: You just gotta stitch it together with duct tape. And 38 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: that's what we're doing right here, And I for one, 39 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 1: really appreciate it. Thank goodness. If Brian's holding on to 40 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: dear life, to his Internet connection everybody, just so you know, 41 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: so you hear Brian cutting in and out, that's why. 42 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: But he sounds great in our ears, and Brian, I 43 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: know this is a big week for you because of 44 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: course the Senior Bowl is where you get a lot 45 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: of this information. But how important is this Senior Bowl 46 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: this year just based off of the fact that you 47 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: don't have a combine, or at least a normal combine. 48 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 1: You don't have those in person visits and this is 49 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: really the one opportunity that you're going to have in 50 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: order to find a lot of the information on these 51 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: various prospects. Yeah, it's it's the first time though that 52 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: you really have to be able to have the measurables 53 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: of these players. And you know, this past weekend, you know, 54 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: Jim Naggy and the staff was working through all that 55 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: they were going through COVID tests, they were going through isolation. 56 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of things are having to kind 57 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 1: of go on right now in order to get these 58 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: players out on the field to hopefully have practice today. 59 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: I was talking with the team that as they got 60 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: twelve scouts there to watch practice. You know, it's just 61 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: it's going to be a lot different. Uh, the interaction 62 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: you have with the players is really going to be limited, 63 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: you know. And like I said, Jim and his staff 64 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: had done a heck of a job of getting us 65 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: to this point. And you know, hopefully that they can 66 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: know the Panthers and the Dolphins. We can have practice, 67 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: we could get film out there, and you know, everybody 68 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: can kind of maybe look at this as some normalcy. 69 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: You know, when you when you when you watch Senior 70 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: Bowl practice, that's the best thing in the world. So 71 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: you know, getting those those players out of the field 72 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: will be a welcome relief to a lot of scouts 73 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: who have spent the fall, you know, at their home 74 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 1: just grinding on tape. To see players actually live, I 75 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: think is gonna do a lot of scouts good in 76 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: this way. Yeah, and you look at the Senior Bowl, 77 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of changes to it already. I mean, 78 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: based off the fact that this is the first year 79 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: that it's not a lad People's stadium and said, it's 80 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: on the campus of South Alabama and it's at a 81 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: new stadium. It'll be at the stadium whenever the Senior 82 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: Bowl game actually rolls around on Saturday, it's not open 83 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: to the public. None of these practices are because of 84 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen and just limited personnel and media that are 85 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: allowed in the building as well. It's one of the 86 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: reasons why we're not down there. Normally we're in nopemobile 87 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: doing the draft and having that kind of information gathering, 88 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: but that's not the case due to the curtain certain climate. 89 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: But Dave, whenever you look at the Cowboys specifically, I mean, 90 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: they have had a rich history of going and getting 91 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: guys from mobile and this year they're not even really 92 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: sending a whole lot of coaching staff down there. It's 93 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: mostly just a couple of scouts and really that might 94 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: be about it in terms of who makes the trip. 95 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 1: But how much of an impact do you think this 96 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: type of different week of the Senior Bowl in general 97 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: is going to have with the Cowboys coaching staff and 98 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: front office. Well yeah, and I mean these things changed 99 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: by the regime to a degree. Mike McCarthy made it 100 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: pretty clear last year that he doesn't think it's all 101 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: that important for the coaching staff, especially since these practices 102 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: will be available. You know, they'll distribute it to the 103 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: league so you can watch the tape of it. You 104 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: can watch the tape of the game after it's over, 105 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: so that parts not surprising. I am. I'm curious about 106 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: the scouting staff, you know, whether they get the same 107 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: amount of stuff out of it. I had to laugh 108 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: this morning. I don't know if you saw this, but 109 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: Jim Naggie had his social people tweeting out the heights 110 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,559 Speaker 1: and weights and now all the measurements of all the guys, 111 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: and I was like, wait, wait a second, because I've 112 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: had to get up at the crack of dawn with 113 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 1: Brian broad Us like the last eight years and go 114 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: do this myself. So you're telling me I can just 115 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: get it on Twitter from the comfort of my own bed. Like, 116 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: I hope that's a change that stays with us, because 117 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: that's great. But then, and you know, obviously everybody would 118 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: prefer for it to be normal. But again, like technology 119 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: allows a lot of this stuff to be done remotely, 120 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: so as long as the practices happen, I think the 121 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: Cowboys will be fine. And yeah, I mean, you're absolutely right. 122 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: They value like like Brian just said, like being able 123 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: to see guys get live reps as valuable and the 124 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: Cowboys have pretty reliably you know, looked into this Senior 125 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: Bowl crop. Tony Pollard is probably the best most recent 126 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: example of a guy who really flashed the Senior Bowl. Obviously, 127 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: you know, we don't need we don't need to bring 128 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: up back at this point, but yeah, I mean this, 129 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: this carries a lot of weight for the Cowboys and 130 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: the proof is in the pudding. They draft these guys 131 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: all the time. Well, Zack Martin too, Remember Zack, remember 132 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: that that glorious Senior Bowl that we were all part 133 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: of where you know, Zack Martin is showing his wares though, 134 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: and you know, and that's you and Aaron Donald. What 135 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: a great matchup between those two, you know. And that's 136 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: the that's the thing I think that Jim Naggee and 137 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: you know, and Jim Nagge and his staff, they've done 138 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: a really good job. I know, Jeff and I do 139 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: in radio we went through the list of the Senior 140 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: Bowl guys that we were looking for. Are looking at 141 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: her and excited and you know, it's a good crop. 142 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: And that just goes to show you with you know, 143 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: scouts can't be resilient. Jim and his staff they didn't 144 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: take no for an answer, you know, they continue to scout, 145 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: they continue to evaluate, they continue to invite, They went 146 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: through all the protocols so we can have a game 147 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: that that shows you a lot about really what goes 148 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: on in the scouting community in the National Football League. 149 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: You know, Brian, I'm jealous of you, just based on 150 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: the fact that Dave said he got up for eight 151 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: years and went to you to the way in because 152 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: last year I tried to get him to get out 153 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: of bed and he wouldn't do it, and he wouldn't 154 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: come with me to to my first way in at 155 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: the senior You do that. Yeah, it's exciting the first time, 156 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: and then like by the eighth time, you're like, well, Brian, Brian, 157 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: I'll have all this written down when I get to 158 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: practice at ten thirty, Like it's you know, this is fine. 159 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: I think I would I should point out, Oh, sorry, 160 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: go ahead. I was no, go you go for it. 161 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: I want to hear what you wanted to point out. 162 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 1: You should point out that Kyle is a snitched on you. 163 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: I was gonna say that at the break Yeah, like, 164 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: very uncool, Kyle, But hey, that's called that's called paying 165 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: your dues. You get up at six thirty with Brian 166 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: to go to the way in like the first six 167 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: years and then by year eight you can sleep in. 168 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: Um I'll tell you. I'll tell you a snitching story. 169 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: Real it's not on anybody I work with here, but 170 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: don't you do it. I used to go to the combine. 171 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: The way ins at the combine and you'd have to 172 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 1: get it to get one of those front row seats. 173 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: You had to leave it about five thirty in the 174 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: morning to get over there to get a seat. And 175 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: I remember coming down the elevator many a day and 176 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: like the Cowboy Bust that was parked on the other 177 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: side was still rocking and rolling with our crew over there. 178 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, we we did it the right way 179 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: at at the combine. We had we had, we had 180 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: everybody was I will say this though, everybody that was 181 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 1: in that bus all night was sitting at the forty 182 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: yard line at eight thirty in the morning watching, So 183 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: that itself was very impressive how that crew used to operate. 184 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's not a lot of fun doing that. 185 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: Not a whole lot of the number of guys that 186 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: no and then the number of guys that go to 187 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 1: and again we're not going to say any names Kyle. No, 188 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 1: I'm not saying, Yeah, you go to you go to 189 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: wagh Ins and workouts at you know, seven o'clock in 190 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: the morning, You'll see some hang You'll see some hungover people. 191 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: For sure, you'll work hard and play hard, no doubt, 192 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,599 Speaker 1: no doubt about that. I mean whatever you look at 193 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: at the job that that Jim Nagy has done, and 194 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: Brian and I were talking about this offer as well. 195 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's a crop that seems to get 196 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: better every year. I mean last year we were excited 197 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,839 Speaker 1: about guys like Javon kin Lall and Justin Herbert who 198 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: were in the crop, and then this year it's DeVante Smith. 199 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you get the Heisman Trophy winner anytime to 200 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: come to Mobile and you're gonna be really excited. Same 201 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: kind of thing back in the day when Baker Mayfield 202 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: was out at the Senior Bowl, and you get another 203 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: guy like that, and then just another incredible crop of receivers. 204 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: That's what I'm excited about, not to draft a receiver, 205 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: but to look at a lot of these dbs, look 206 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: at a lot of these corners, and I kind of 207 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 1: want to go through some of those corners. Later in 208 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: the show, Jeff, because I know you're looking at a 209 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: bunch of those secondary guys and how they're gonna match 210 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: up against those wide receivers. But whenever you look at 211 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: some of these prospects, mister Kavanaugh, who has the most 212 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: a game from a week in mobile? Because if you're 213 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: DeVante Smith and you're a Highsman Trophy winner, you already 214 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: have putout the incredible tape. You had one of the 215 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: best seasons a wide receiver has ever had in college football, 216 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: and now you turn around and you expect to add 217 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: to that via a week down and exhibition practices and 218 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: exhibition games. Who has the most to gain out of this? 219 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 1: Is it the opt outs? Is it the small school 220 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 1: guys or is it guys like DeVante Smith? I think 221 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: it's probably the small school guys. Or what I would 222 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: say is number one for instance, like I'm looking at 223 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: the DBS and if you played at a bigger school 224 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,719 Speaker 1: and you've played against great competition, teams are gonna have 225 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 1: a pretty good feel for who you are because they've 226 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 1: already seen it. But just a random name, Robert Rochelle 227 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: from Central Arkansas. How about if Robert Rochelle shows up 228 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:49,079 Speaker 1: and in practice he locks up Candarius Tony from Florida, 229 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: and he's able to cover Amari Rodgers out of Clemson. 230 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: I think the guys are the most to gain are 231 00:11:55,160 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: guys who teams aren't sure that they can do a 232 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: portion of the game. You know, you've got a guy 233 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 1: who is good man coverage, haven't seen him in zone, 234 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: don't know if he can tackle, and you've seen it. 235 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: You've got guys who I'm not sure about him in 236 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 1: man coverage. Like if you can show something that scouts 237 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 1: didn't know that you can do, that can be huge. 238 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: A linebacker who you haven't seen in coverage a lot, 239 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: he goes one on ones and locks up tight ends 240 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: and running backs in coverage. That can help you. But 241 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: I think for the most part, you're talking about guys 242 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: that are trying to move themselves, like late or mid 243 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 1: round guys who are trying to separate themselves from guys 244 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: they're practicing with and against. That's what the Senior Bowls about, 245 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: and that's why it's awesome for all the guys that 246 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 1: commit to it, because what you're saying is I'm willing 247 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: to compete. I'm willing to risk some draft stock because 248 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 1: I think I'm really good and I'm gonna make money 249 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: out here. Yeah, I think Jeff, Jeff's nailed it right. 250 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: And you know, another name I think about is melafon 251 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: Wu from Syracuse, you know. And the reason the reason 252 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: I say his name is he's six three, he's two 253 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen pounds. That's what we had going in. 254 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: And you watch his tape and we all remember his brother, Obie, 255 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: who was drafted at you know, by the Raiders out 256 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 1: of Connecticut, who played safety. But man, you're talking about 257 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 1: a sixty three, two hundred and fifteen pound quarterback right now, 258 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: and so how is he going to match up? Are 259 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: you worried when you see him live? Are you worried about? Okay, 260 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: is he a long, leggy guy? Canny turned, canny break, 261 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 1: canny adjust? You know sometimes that those tall guys you 262 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: have to you lose perspective of, like, okay, is he 263 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: not quick because he's tall and long, and so when 264 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: you see somebody live like that, it could put your 265 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: mind at ease, like, oh, I get it. He's a 266 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: smart kid. He's a tough kid. But yes, he can move. 267 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: That's what these practices could really could tell you. And 268 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: these teams the Dolphins, Caroline. They'll do a good job 269 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: of structuring their practice in order to see the drills 270 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: where you'll see the movement, the change of direction, and 271 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: you'll get to see him compete. So that's where the 272 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 1: great thing about the Senior Bowl is that maybe some 273 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: guys that you didn't have a really good gage on 274 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: just off tape the Senior Bowl kid kind of opened 275 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: your eyes to some other avenues. David. I think a 276 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: guy like that from last year was a Kyle Dugger. 277 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: I mean, a guy who you had good take on 278 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: and you really really liked, but he had a good 279 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl as well, and it kind of added to 280 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: that and it ended up pushing him up into the 281 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: top top three rounds. I can't remember. It was Jeremy Chen, 282 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: also a Senior Bowl representative last year. It's gonna say 283 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: it was Jeremy Chen and Kyle Ye. So both of 284 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: those guys could have been a very high I don't 285 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: think Chin had as good of a Senior Bowl, but 286 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: he was still somebody that was that was very nicely 287 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: represented down in Mobile. But I mean it seems like 288 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: every year those those guys that end up sticking out, David, Oh, 289 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: I mean you know, we can heap praise on Jim 290 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: Naggie through this whole thing because again, like when I 291 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: started doing this, yeah, like you would occasionally you would 292 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: occasionally get a good player. You know, Zach Martin and 293 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald were great college players, but they didn't have 294 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: nearly that kind of hype coming out of school. And 295 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: now you look at you know, the type of guys 296 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: that they're able to get. You know, DeVante Smith's not 297 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: going to participate, but even getting him to show up, 298 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: you know, they've gotten Baker Mayfield to show up. So yeah, 299 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: and I bring that up to say, like, if these 300 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: guys invite one of these small school guys, like if 301 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: a if an FCS D two or D three player 302 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: is at the Senior Bowl, he's probably pretty freaking good. 303 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: Ali Marpette is another one that comes to mind. Yeah, yeah, 304 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: so this is yeah, like if these guys are if 305 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: they're in mobile, they can play. And you know, I'm 306 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: I'm past the point of being surprised when some of 307 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: these guys climb up into the first few rounds of 308 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: the draft. Brian, from a scouts perspective, I know pretty 309 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: much the combine it's the same way, but the Senior 310 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: Bowl is a it's a rounding of what you've already found, correct, 311 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: it's it's it's and finding those different things and kind 312 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: of like what Jeff was talking about specifically, whenever it 313 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: comes to filling in the cracks of what you think 314 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: about a prospect and what you might not like about 315 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: a prospect, and those prospects have one final opportunity to 316 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: maybe show that they can do that. But how much 317 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: does it weigh, especially in a year like this where 318 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: you have to deal with so many of the guys 319 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: that are uncertain that we're opt outs, even that we've 320 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: already talked about, but all these scouts kind of piecing 321 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: this together. How much of a challenge is it from 322 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: a Senior Bowl perspective in twenty one? Yeah, I know 323 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: it's a big challenge, But you know we've talked about 324 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: this before. Scouts can be very resilient in the way 325 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: they go about you know, if you tell them within 326 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: the rules, this is the interviews, this is the access, 327 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: this is what you can and cannot do. You know, 328 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: you'll figure out ways to evaluate. I always go back to, 329 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: you know, with the Al Davis back in the days 330 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 1: with the Raiders, Al Davis. He would take two or 331 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 1: three guys every year from the Senior Bowl. You know, 332 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 1: that was something that was really really big to the 333 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: Raiders back in the day that you know, and there's 334 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: teams to this day also put a lot of weight 335 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 1: in what goes on in the Senior Bowl because what 336 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: you're trying to figure out is, Okay, you take these 337 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 1: players out of their element and Alie Moore pet from 338 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: Hobart and you put him next to Zack Martin at 339 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 1: a Notre Dame in his element. You know, how do 340 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: these players Is the stage too big, is the opportunity 341 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 1: too much? Or no? Do they shine? And I think 342 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: you could get a lot out of the Senior Bowl, 343 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: not just because the competition or the interaction, but you 344 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: could see how players in various weight classes react to 345 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: their surroundings. And I think it's a very good it's 346 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: a good window through what this player really really is. 347 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: And you know, we always say I had a bad 348 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,959 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. Hey, I just appreciate the fact that somebody 349 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: would go to the Senior Bowl and participate. You know, 350 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: we talked about that. Put it out there, throw it 351 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: out there. You know, Yeah, you might be from Central Arkansas, 352 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: covering a guy from Notre Dame. But you know, if 353 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 1: you have some good reps, you know that in the mind, 354 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: it's like I knew that kid could play. I knew 355 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: that kid could line up and cover that guy. So yeah, 356 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 1: it'll be It's a great week. It really really is. 357 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody gets hurt by it. I think 358 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: there's some things that can change your opinion in a 359 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: good way, but you kind of say, okay, trust your 360 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: eyes on the other stuff. Maybe he had a couple 361 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: of bad practices, but a good game. There's a lot 362 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: you can really really gain out of this game, not 363 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 1: like say the whole week of evaluation and then the 364 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 1: actual game itself. Love it. There are a lot of 365 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: guys out there that we're going to talk about in 366 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: the third segment that you need to keep an eye on, 367 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: not even just as Cowboys fans looking for the draft, 368 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 1: but just in general, because there's a ton of talent 369 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 1: down in Mobile and we're going to talk about it. 370 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: Practices start today eleven thirty am Central Time. They go 371 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: to four, so I think the NFL network is broadcasting 372 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: in and we'll be watching along as well. So go 373 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: ahead and follow all of us on Twitter to keep 374 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,239 Speaker 1: up today, but when we come back, we'll do some 375 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: Twitter on the twenty. We've got some questions about the 376 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: priority with the Dallas Cowboys and where does some of 377 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: these players fit in dan Quinn's system on defense. We'll 378 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: talk about it next when we return on the Dallas 379 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. 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We're a second segment here of the Dallas 417 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Here on this Tuesday, Bryant 418 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: brought us David Helman, Jeff CAVANAF, Kyle Yeoman's it's time 419 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: now for some on the twenty and our Twitter on 420 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: the twenty question, I don't know if we have the 421 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: sound or the back Chris Beam is not back there, Twitter? 422 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: Oh there is? Oh, it did tupped up? Wow, it did? Okay, 423 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: it went, it went. It actually went well. The Matt 424 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 1: Kent doing a great job. Okay, So Caleb says, while 425 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: understanding that defense is the priority, are there any offensive 426 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 1: players on Day three that could potentially surprise the Dallas Cowboys? Specifically, 427 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: he wants to know at the skills positions. I'm going 428 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: to defer to mister tacoa leading Jeff Kavanaugh on this one. 429 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: Do you think there are any Day three guys that 430 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: the Cowboys could potentially be interested in as a skills position? Um? Yeah, 431 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 1: I think so. I think because you have to look 432 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 1: at your entire roster. There's a couple of things that 433 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,360 Speaker 1: are going to be true here. One, if the Cowboys 434 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 1: took a wide receiver on Day two or three, the 435 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: impact that they would make immediate on the Cowboy is 436 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: probably very, very little. But they also have decisions to 437 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: make guys like your fourth and fifth wide receivers Devin 438 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: Smith or not, I'm sorry, m Cedric Wilson and Noah Brown, 439 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: Like those guys are they gonna be on the team, 440 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: you know? No? So, Like, there's room on this roster 441 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 1: for skill position players for sure, and there might be 442 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 1: room for a guy who's one of your three top 443 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: receivers going into the twenty twenty two season. Michael Gallup's 444 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: going into his final year under contract, So yeah, I 445 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: think for sure. And every year you're gonna have so 446 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: many good wide receiver prospects that you could go into 447 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: the fourth or fifth round you might find a guy 448 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: that can be a really good NFL wide receiver. So yeah, 449 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 1: keep your heart on a swivel. Know the names of 450 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: these receivers. The Cowboys are going to have at least 451 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: ten picks in this draft, depending on what they do 452 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: and how these comp picks shake out. Yeah, I think 453 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: you can absolutely take a skill player. Yeah, I think 454 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: they knew the thing. Jeff sabsolutly right, and I knew 455 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: Dave can address that as well. You know, you seem 456 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: to have an idea of who your your top three 457 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: receivers are. You know, you could always you know, depending 458 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: on what you want to do with some other positions. 459 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: Maybe you feel like, hey, well we gotta you know, 460 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: we got to think about a possible replacement for Michael 461 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: Gallup going forward. Do you want to develop a guy? Yeah, 462 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: these drafts are always the one thing that we've learned 463 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: over the years is the skill position seems to be 464 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: one where all of a sudden you get down in 465 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: the fifth round and we're on the draft, showed where 466 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 1: work in the draft, and then someone gets taken and 467 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: Jeff goes, well, that's a guy having the third round. 468 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: You know, I had I had a fourth round grade 469 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: on him, and all of a sudden he's taken in 470 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: the fifth. So the skill positions can go pretty deep. 471 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:51,360 Speaker 1: Uh generally. I also feel like though, that's the opportunity too, 472 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: and that you know in that fourth round, fifth round, 473 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: you know, look for those offensive lineman two that you 474 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: know where you don't want to sit there and wait 475 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: till the sixth and seventh round to try and find 476 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: a tackle. You know. I mean, this team has done 477 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: a pretty good job, you know. Heck, they got a 478 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: starter at a third round with Connor McGovern, who they 479 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: had a second round grade up. So you know they're 480 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: gonna work. They're gonna work this board, not just for 481 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,719 Speaker 1: the not for the skill, yeah, be honest, just another one, 482 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 1: very good. Yeah, you get a starter out of that. 483 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, So I would say the middle of this 484 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: draft board is going to be more about taking those 485 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: offensive linemen or maybe even a defensive tackle or two. 486 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: I think that's the position that I would kind of 487 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: focus on if I was a Cowboy fan, I just 488 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: I mean, y'all covered it very thoroughly, but I would 489 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 1: just throw in, yeah, I mean, obviously the Cowboys needs 490 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: their defense. But I mean, doesn't the conversation change once 491 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: you get past like, you know, the fourth round. Basically, 492 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: like the first four rounds are where you're drafting guys 493 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: who you expect to make an impact immediately, and even 494 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 1: that's not guarantee. You know, we couldn't get Reggie Robinson 495 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 1: on the field this year. For some reason. Um, But 496 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: so you know, we always say like it's it's best 497 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: player available with a shade towards your needs. But the 498 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: later you get in the draft, the less I care 499 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 1: about my immediate needs. You know, the Cowboys might need 500 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: a safety, but if a wide receiver that's really really 501 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: good slips to the fifth or sixth round, I don't 502 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: give a damn because neither one of them is probably 503 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: going to contribute right away. So that's for me. That's 504 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: the fun thing about Day three is you just pick 505 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 1: the best possible player always, because these are more about 506 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: long term investments anyway, which means Day three is going 507 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,439 Speaker 1: to be a time where all of us have watched 508 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 1: you know, two hundred and whatever guys, and it'll be like, 509 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: all right, who's your best available player, and we'll all 510 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: be saying, our guy for like eighty picks in a 511 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: row daily gets picked. It's where it's where I don't 512 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: want to give us too much credit, but I think, 513 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: you know, I guess there's way to say it without 514 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: giving us a lot of credit. But like that's how 515 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: Bradley and nice situations wind up. Though it is like, 516 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: you know, a really good player Senior Bowl MVP. Maybe 517 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: some people thought of him as their third or fourth 518 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: round pick. He falls all the way down to the 519 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: end of the fifth round and everybody's super excited because 520 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: he was the best guy left on everybody's sheet. But 521 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: he's still a late fifth round pick, and sometimes that 522 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 1: gets lost in the shuffle a little bit. Yeah, I mean, 523 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: I think that's also a spot where you could maybe 524 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: look at a quarterback as well. I think maybe you 525 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: saw it last year with Ben da Nucci really late 526 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: in the draft, seventh round. You look at it and 527 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 1: you go, oh, look at this guy out of James Madison, 528 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 1: it's Ben da Nucci. We thought at the point it 529 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 1: was going to be the Washington State kid and Gordon, 530 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: Anthony Gordon that was also a Senior Bowl quarterback last year. 531 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: We thought if they were going to go quarterback, it 532 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: was probably gonna be him. Instead they went with Ben 533 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 1: da Nucci. I think you could possibly see another situation 534 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 1: like that again, where it's out of the ten picks 535 00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 1: that they have, one of them might be a bad 536 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: quarterback sitting in the wings. If they, of course don't 537 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: take a quarterback early on due to various ensuing negotiations 538 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 1: in which we will not get into at the moment 539 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: on this show. So moving on to the next question, 540 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: Scott Fits on Twitter says, if the Cowboys don't select 541 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: a corner at the tenth overall pick, who are some 542 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 1: of the corners on Day two that could fit into 543 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 1: dan Quinn's scheme specifically? And I mean, Dave that you 544 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: just talked about it a little bit ago. I mean, 545 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 1: if you're drafting a Day two corner, you expect him 546 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: to come in make an impact. That's what Trayvon Dix 547 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: did this past year. You were hoping that same thing 548 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: for a guy like Reggie Robinson didn't necessarily get that. 549 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: But are there any guys that stick out to you, 550 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: Brian when it comes to somebody that could potentially fit 551 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: into dan Quinn's defensive scheme? Yeah? You know the thing 552 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: that what I'm gathering about talking to people that Joe 553 00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: Witt No, dan Quinny it is really really big on 554 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: the ability to have a corner that can run. That's 555 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: important to him, and you know he's really big on 556 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: playing like that deep space and you know he doesn't 557 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: want to be exposed. Now, say what you want about 558 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: Diggs and his ability to run and to cover and 559 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: stuff like that, But you wouldn't say that Diggs is 560 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: a really speedy guy. And so I think what you 561 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: have to do is you have to keep your eye 562 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: on those guys. Now, let's see what a guy like 563 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: you know, Tyson Campbell from Georgia. Let's see what Eric 564 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: Stokes from Georgia. You know, these are guys Josh Joe 565 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: from Alabama. You know, these are guys that are all 566 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: kind of in that long, kind of rangy build that 567 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: they like. But how well can they run? I think 568 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a matter of like they're they're gonna 569 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: be comfortable with Diggs, but whoever they draft in the 570 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,959 Speaker 1: second round or third round, I think it's gonna have 571 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: to have length and he's gonna have to have speed. 572 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: They just don't want to go in there with. You 573 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: can't just sit there. And that's why if you look 574 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: at why Farley would be really entertaining to them in 575 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: the first round if they could get Farley, is because 576 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: he is long and he can run, you know, and 577 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: that's that that will be important to this secondary and 578 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: that'll be important to dan Quinn and him going forward. 579 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: So you know, you could throw out probably a bunch 580 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 1: of names, but if they have length and you start 581 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: to hear that they ran well and they're talked about 582 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: in the second round, I would guarantee you those are 583 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: guys that the Cowboys are going to target. Dan Brian 584 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: kind of stole my thunder a little bit, but like 585 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: if we're trying to if we're trying to keep it on, 586 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 1: you know, if we're trying to keep it on the 587 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl, because that's what's happening this week. I'm fascinated 588 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: by I Fiatu malifan Wu just again. I mean, as 589 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: soon as I realized what his measurables are and by 590 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,479 Speaker 1: you know, you can go look the Senior Bowl tweeted 591 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: out his official measurables, like he's every bit of like 592 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: six two and a half to thirteen big ass wingspan, 593 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: and I mean, I you know, we always fall into 594 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: this trap of comparing prospects to you know, Hall of 595 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: Fame caliber players, But it's hard not to think about 596 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: a guy like Richard Sherman when you hear that, and 597 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: that's who dan Quinn coached when this defense was at 598 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: its best. So I'm curious to see how high his 599 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: stock rises, because you know, we're always we in the 600 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: media are always behind the actual scouting conversation. And I'm 601 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: sitting here like, oh man, you know, maybe this guy's 602 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: stock can can climb a little bit, whereas maybe other 603 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: people think it's already up there. But I'm I'm curious 604 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: to see, you know, if he if he handles himself 605 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: well in these practices, I bet we'll be talking about 606 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: him even more than we already are. Yeah, I'm just 607 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: gonna I'm just gonna tell you guys though, Like I 608 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: was earlier, though, just keep an eye on the speed. 609 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: And it's it's not that they have to have this 610 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: guy that's a four three guy. It's but it's important 611 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: to win the secondary coach. I mean, he's going to there, 612 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: They're going him and Al Harris. They're going to figure out, like, Okay, 613 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: what do we have on one side with dicks and 614 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: what do we need on the other side. I just 615 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: don't see them having two corners that have okay speed. Yeah, 616 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be about it's going to 617 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: be about okay, we can we can have one. And 618 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 1: Richard Sherman was that way. Richard was a four basically 619 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 1: a four to five five guy coming out of Stanford. 620 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: That's why it lasted to the fifth round. So you know, 621 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: teams are very mindful of the speed, They're very mindful 622 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: of the length. Now, I mean there's a I'll tell 623 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: you what. I keep falling in love as a first 624 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: round player with this JC Horn out of South Carolina. 625 00:32:55,640 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: You know, I everybody talks about Farley and Certan for me, 626 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: put JC Horn up there too. You know, as a 627 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: guy that you would you would look at very very 628 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: strongly for consideration if you were looking for those those 629 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: top cornerbacks. Yeah, yeah, I think so. My biggest thing 630 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: when you talk about corners and Dan Campbell and or 631 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: not call, yeah, I just get some mixing up your dans. Yeah. 632 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: I was thinking about Dan's amazing speech. I think about 633 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: it a lot. But we'll go Dan, We'll go Dan 634 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: Quinn instead. One of my favorite things that I've read 635 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: was something that Richard Sherman said about him a few 636 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: weeks ago. And I don't remember what game he was 637 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: talking about, but he was talking about how Dan Quinn 638 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: came into the locker room and they were losing, and 639 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: Quinn was like, all right, guys, bad news. What we're 640 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: doing isn't working. So I know, you guys aren't built 641 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: for this. We're playing man in the second half and 642 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: they stopped him and they won the game. And so like, 643 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: I can respect that coaches have things that they're looking for, 644 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,399 Speaker 1: but I just really hope that they don't care if 645 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: he's five eleven or six three. They don't care if 646 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: he runs a four three two or a four or 647 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: five one. Find the players and for cron out, build 648 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,479 Speaker 1: your defense around the best players you can find. Don't 649 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 1: try to make sure that well, this is what I 650 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,240 Speaker 1: like to do. So I've got to find a player 651 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: that can do no find the best players and be 652 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 1: an adaptive coach. That's what I want. So I just 653 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,439 Speaker 1: want to identify the best corners, put them all in order, 654 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: and pick him in order, and then coach. Your job 655 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 1: is to be really smart. Your coach, figure out how 656 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: this is going to work, put him in position, let's go. Well, 657 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: I'll say one thing, man, it's so much fun to 658 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 1: watch these kids whose dad's play the league. I got 659 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: to watch Elijah Molden play the other day. I didn't 660 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: know his dad was Alex Molden, who in my last 661 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,240 Speaker 1: draft in Green Bay was you know, we was picked 662 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: by the Saints eleventh. Overall, his kid is a good player. 663 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 1: He's five ten. Though, Asante Samuel's kid is a good player, 664 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: he's five ten. I mean, these are guys that you 665 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 1: can legitimately watch and you and you're sitting there going, man, 666 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 1: these are good players. And to Jeff's point, if you're not, 667 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: if you're not playing the trades game, those kids should 668 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: be absolutely considered. With all these other corners that are 669 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 1: going to be drafted, I mean, they're they're all good players. 670 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,320 Speaker 1: But you know, there's some teams that get measurable conscious 671 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 1: and I do worry a little bit about with the 672 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,720 Speaker 1: Cowboys with what's going on from what I'm hearing about 673 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: Wit and the type of corner that he likes, you know, 674 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 1: it might be a little bit of a focus on Okay, 675 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 1: we got this type of corner on one side, I 676 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 1: need this type of corner on the other. Now, do 677 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: you think the other side would be fitting for a 678 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 1: guy like a Caleb Farley? I mean, we're talking about 679 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 1: these five ten guys. Caleb Farley is not that absolutely 680 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 1: two hundred pounds. I mean, he is every bit of 681 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: the measurables you want in a corner. Do you think 682 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: he could potentially be there because our next twitter on 683 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: the twenty question is bender bending. He asked, is Kayleb 684 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,320 Speaker 1: Farley elite compared to the rest of the cornerback position 685 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 1: in the past? Or is he just elite with this 686 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 1: year's group because he's starting at least this guy tweeting 687 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 1: said that he is not liking he's starting to not 688 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: like the possibility of taking a corner at ten. Yeah, 689 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not gonna call him elite. I'm gonna 690 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: call him the best of the class. You know, we've 691 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's funny how we were. We go 692 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 1: through these cornerbacks and you know, the kid that was 693 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: taken in Detroit last year, you know, and you know, 694 00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,280 Speaker 1: he he gets banged up and all of a sudden, 695 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: you're you know, you're sitting there trying to kind of 696 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:07,760 Speaker 1: figure some things out, and you know, but I'm looking 697 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,800 Speaker 1: at I'm looking at Farley. I'm seeing a good player 698 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,839 Speaker 1: that there's there's a side of me that when we 699 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 1: were picking at four, I was nervous about taking him 700 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 1: or Certan or one of those guys. Picking him at ten, yeah, 701 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 1: a little bit better feeling there picking him at twelve, 702 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 1: a really good feeling right there, you know. But if 703 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: you're going to take the best corner in this draft 704 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 1: and try and project him to be an outstanding player, 705 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 1: Farley gives you that best chance. In my opinion, he does. 706 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 1: But when you start comparing him to corners and other drafts, 707 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,720 Speaker 1: I don't think he would be necessarily the top corner 708 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,319 Speaker 1: in the last safe four or five drafts that I've 709 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,959 Speaker 1: worked on. I think that's perfectly put honestly, Brian, And 710 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 1: I mean, there have been other great corners to come 711 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: out in that time, but probably because of my obvious connection. 712 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:08,720 Speaker 1: Like when you're talking about like a surefire slam dunk, 713 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 1: like elite cornerback, and I hate that word, but it 714 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 1: is what it is. I always I go back to 715 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson, just like a guy that you're like, he 716 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: can do everything. He's a slam dunk, He's gonna be 717 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 1: a pro bowler as a rookie. You can't miss um, 718 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 1: That's what and that's exactly what Peterson was. And those 719 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 1: guys just they aren't there every year. And I don't 720 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 1: think any cornerback in this class is that guy. I'm 721 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 1: with you. I started to get real nervous about picking 722 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 1: in the top five if if they were going to 723 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 1: pick a cornerback, because I'm not sure. I'm not sure 724 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 1: either of these guys is worth it. Butt down at 725 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,840 Speaker 1: ten doesn't bother me. Patrick's or ten doesn't bother me. 726 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 1: At ten, Caleb Farley's fine. It scares me that you know, 727 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 1: he'll have gone a long long time without live reps 728 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 1: by the time they draft him. But you know, I 729 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 1: liked what I've seen from his twenty nineteen tape enough 730 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 1: that I'm comfortable taking that risk, especially again, you're down 731 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,359 Speaker 1: the board a little bit at least, you know, at 732 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,319 Speaker 1: least the little ways from where we thought they might be. 733 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 1: And and yeah, I mean I would say I feel 734 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 1: I'm comfortable with him orser Tan saying that they're the 735 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 1: best in the class. I don't have a strong opinion 736 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,479 Speaker 1: about it either way, but I feel a lot better 737 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 1: about it at ten than I would have higher up, 738 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 1: for sure. Look, let me ask you guys a question, 739 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 1: would you, with Detroit having a new general management head coach, 740 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 1: would you send the tenth overall pick for jeff Jeffrey 741 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 1: Akuta to Detroit? Knew it was always better new, It 742 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: is always better. Give me the cheap guy that I 743 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 1: don't like. What am I giving up for Jeff Okuda? 744 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,359 Speaker 1: You're giving up the tenth overall pick you're going to get. 745 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 1: You're going to get a corner that we all thought 746 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,360 Speaker 1: was a top better three player last year. Yeah. Yeah, 747 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,479 Speaker 1: and he's only a year removed from the from the game, 748 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:01,240 Speaker 1: from from from the Drive. You're given a tenth overall 749 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 1: pickoff to make sure you go get one of the 750 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,400 Speaker 1: best quarters. You go get a corner that you thought 751 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 1: was elite. I think I wouldn't have a great rookie year. 752 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 1: Even after he didn't have a great rookie year, I 753 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 1: would still do it. I think I would still do it. 754 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 1: The other thing is I'm such a cheap skate, like 755 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 1: years of cheap labor mean everything to me. I want that. 756 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 1: I want all of the team control I can get. 757 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 1: And Jeffrecuda is already a year toward needing a contract 758 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:33,880 Speaker 1: extension and if he makes more, Yeah, but you also 759 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,319 Speaker 1: got it. You also, yeah, you do have him on 760 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,239 Speaker 1: the fifth year option though two you can use. Yeah, 761 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 1: you got tenth overall pick on that option. Yeah, let 762 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,720 Speaker 1: me go ahead it. But you're talking about potentially picking 763 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,320 Speaker 1: a corner that you're not in love. Well, Dave sounds 764 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 1: like he's in love with Farley. I'm not in love. 765 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,359 Speaker 1: I'm not in love. I feel I feel just right 766 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 1: like I feel like if you tell me that, if 767 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,959 Speaker 1: you tell me that, are you guys scared? You guys 768 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 1: are scared because of Whoda didn't have a great rookie 769 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 1: year because he was hurt? Is that what you're telling me? 770 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 1: A bad rookie? Yeah, in a bad rookie year? What's 771 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,800 Speaker 1: wrong with that? Are you guys telling me that Akuda 772 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,440 Speaker 1: is not a better player than Caleb Farley or Patrick 773 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 1: Sir Tam tell months ago, I thought it was for 774 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 1: sure he was a better college player. So you're seeing 775 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 1: you're wrong right now? Then about him, you're seeing you 776 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,719 Speaker 1: guys were wrong about it, right, We're wrong on so 777 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,799 Speaker 1: many players. It's the way I'm just I'm just asking here. 778 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:30,239 Speaker 1: I'm just we're tall about the question was about a 779 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 1: league corners? No, guys, we question yeah, because because I 780 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,879 Speaker 1: think if you were to PLoP these corners. I love 781 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,919 Speaker 1: the word PLoP. By the way, you're to PLoP these 782 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 1: corners in the last year's draft class, I think to me, 783 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 1: Sir Tam Farley Horn they're all right there battling with C. J. 784 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 1: Henderson for the right to be picked. In my world somewhere, 785 00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,839 Speaker 1: I think I think Henderson went him go on like nine. 786 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 1: But in Jacksonville. Okay, See, in my world, all those 787 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 1: guys should be battling to be picked somewhere in the teams. 788 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 1: And that's that's just kind of the level corner. And 789 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 1: I you're right, no doubt. Jeff Okuda to me was 790 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 1: awesome prospect. Um. I'd have to really go watch and 791 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,880 Speaker 1: watch what happened in Detroit, And I think part of 792 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 1: it was probably that he was told, hey, you're a 793 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,759 Speaker 1: top five pick, welcome to covering the best receivers in 794 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,319 Speaker 1: the league one on one, and they play a bunch 795 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 1: of man in Detroit, and so it's probably just really 796 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 1: really hard. Um, So I think it's a great question. 797 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 1: I just have to go back and watch him, because yes, 798 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,319 Speaker 1: I thought he was a better prospect than any of 799 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,839 Speaker 1: these corners. Okay, if Jeff Okuda was there at ten, 800 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 1: we'd be doing backflips, yeah for sure. Yeah, yeah, I 801 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,480 Speaker 1: mean we could say that every year, you could say 802 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,720 Speaker 1: that every day. I was actually just I'm just talking 803 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,759 Speaker 1: about I'm just talking about corners and where where like 804 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,319 Speaker 1: Farley in Certain and those guys, and I think I 805 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 1: think you guys have got him right. All right, how 806 00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,360 Speaker 1: about this? I like? Uh, I think I like Farley 807 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,839 Speaker 1: and Certain more than I liked C. J. Henderson. Am 808 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 1: I crazy for thinking that no interchangeable that I was? Yeah, huh, 809 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,439 Speaker 1: that's it. I don't know. I mean, if you see 810 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,279 Speaker 1: I think that it would be. I would have to 811 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 1: figure out the order. I think Henderson would go right 812 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 1: in there with Farley, Sir tam Horn, unless you've draft 813 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 1: Brian Obviously, if you nail it, If you nail the 814 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 1: pick and the guy's a stud from day one, it's different. 815 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,800 Speaker 1: But otherwise, draft picks are like cars, Like the minute 816 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,000 Speaker 1: you drive them off the lot, they start losing value. 817 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 1: So like I've always rather hang on to the shiny, 818 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,799 Speaker 1: the shiny new pick with no mileage than the one 819 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 1: that like, oh, like it still runs great and it 820 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,759 Speaker 1: could it could still be a great car, but like 821 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 1: it's already got five thousand miles on it and it's 822 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,240 Speaker 1: a little bit dinged up. Like I'll take my chances 823 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:59,759 Speaker 1: with the new one. So uh, just for just for reference, everybody, 824 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 1: you want to talk about technical difficulties that we had 825 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,440 Speaker 1: early in the show. You guys aren't gonna believe this, 826 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 1: but the fire alarm is going off at this very 827 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:12,480 Speaker 1: moment in the stars so hell yeah. Yeah, So the 828 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:17,239 Speaker 1: tech quarterbacks, No, you might have to because they just 829 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 1: came in and told me that we're gonna have to 830 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 1: evacuate the building um so security yard. So I don't 831 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:26,799 Speaker 1: know if I should do that or not. I think 832 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,920 Speaker 1: I might just stay here. So we're gonna draft shows 833 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 1: more important. Yeah, I agree. We're gonna take a break 834 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 1: when we come back. We've got some dogs that we're 835 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,360 Speaker 1: going to talk about on the Senior Bowl circuit, and 836 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,640 Speaker 1: some guys that are going to be available here over 837 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,960 Speaker 1: the next couple of days to see. I know we 838 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,360 Speaker 1: can already hear them. There are so many dogs in 839 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 1: the background a little bit. There's an ominance up those 840 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:50,839 Speaker 1: dogs in the background. We're gonna talk about it next 841 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 1: when we come back. You're on the Dallas Cowboys dot 842 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 1: Com draft. 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That's the draft show because 879 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,600 Speaker 1: they're trying to shut down the combo because we're giving 880 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,400 Speaker 1: away all the draft secrets. That's what's happening at the moment. 881 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,360 Speaker 1: But you can't slow us down. This alarm can't slow 882 00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:27,279 Speaker 1: us down. Dave Hellman, We've got Jeff Kavanaugh, Bryan brot Us, 883 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,680 Speaker 1: I'm Kyle Yeoman's final couple of minutes here. Of course, 884 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:33,960 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl Week kicking off today in Mobile. All of 885 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,600 Speaker 1: the measurements have already been taken. They are out on 886 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:40,000 Speaker 1: the social media of the Senior Bowl. Go check that out. 887 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,680 Speaker 1: We'll give you tons of updates throughout the week as 888 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:46,160 Speaker 1: well on our various social media accounts. But we talked 889 00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:50,440 Speaker 1: a lot of specific offensive names in last week's Tuesday 890 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 1: show with Bucky and Brian and Dave and kind of 891 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,240 Speaker 1: went through a lot of the guys on the offensive 892 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,600 Speaker 1: side of the football. And of course we're very defensive 893 00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,680 Speaker 1: heavy this year via the Draft pro Sys for good 894 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:05,440 Speaker 1: reason because the Cowboys obviously need a ton of defense. 895 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,280 Speaker 1: But guys, whatever, you look at the list of Senior 896 00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,879 Speaker 1: Bowl talent, and Jeff will start with you on this one. 897 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,799 Speaker 1: Which level of the defense has the deepest amount of talent? 898 00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:18,040 Speaker 1: Are we gonna go with the defensive line, linebackers, secondary. 899 00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,319 Speaker 1: If you had to pick one of the three units 900 00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,160 Speaker 1: that's deepest down in Mobile this week, which one would 901 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:27,160 Speaker 1: it be? Oh, that is a cheater question. I really 902 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 1: like them all, So I'm just gonna pick the one 903 00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:30,560 Speaker 1: that I want to talk about the most. There's a 904 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,200 Speaker 1: couple of guys we haven't talked about a lot on 905 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:36,799 Speaker 1: the draft. I like it the American team at the 906 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:42,600 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. I really like the secondary group there because 907 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,120 Speaker 1: they got a bunch of dudes that I'm a big 908 00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,800 Speaker 1: fan of. We've talked about some of them. Tyree Gillespie, 909 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,280 Speaker 1: the Missouri free safety. I think he's a fun potential, 910 00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:57,120 Speaker 1: say third round pick. The Florida State safety Humpsa and 911 00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,799 Speaker 1: the Cyril Deans, and boy, he is a monster. So 912 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:02,640 Speaker 1: if you wanted to say, hey, I'm gonna move him 913 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,560 Speaker 1: to a weak side linebacker and we're gonna party, I 914 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:08,680 Speaker 1: would say, let's get it. I'm right there with you. Yesterday, Jeff, 915 00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,759 Speaker 1: I watched him yesterday, and this is a guy who 916 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,880 Speaker 1: had a torn ACL missed all but two games in 917 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,120 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, and then he comes back and plays inc 918 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,759 Speaker 1: State and just tears them up. And then he goes 919 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,640 Speaker 1: against Duke. It plays even better in his second game 920 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:25,040 Speaker 1: against Duke. I really liked him overall. As Jeff's cambridge 921 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,400 Speaker 1: just falls down off of a snow globe, but I 922 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,799 Speaker 1: really liked Missera Deane and what he brought to the 923 00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:34,480 Speaker 1: table out of Florida State. Am I still alive? Yes, 924 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,800 Speaker 1: you're there. We got you. Hey, guys. Yeah. Now I 925 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,759 Speaker 1: want to talk about my Central Florida dudes, because my 926 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:43,800 Speaker 1: Central Florida dudes are dogs. Okay. Central Florida's got a 927 00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,200 Speaker 1: free safety named Richie Grant, And if you have not 928 00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,760 Speaker 1: seen Richie Grant, I would advise you to see Richie 929 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,759 Speaker 1: Grant because he is now in my top three safeties 930 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,439 Speaker 1: in this draft class. Richie Grant is a real life 931 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,040 Speaker 1: free safety that can get sideline to sideline and when 932 00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,200 Speaker 1: a running back breaks free right up the middle, Richie 933 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,239 Speaker 1: Grant has zero fear about the collision that's about to 934 00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,080 Speaker 1: take place, and he wants to be part of it. 935 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,920 Speaker 1: I like Richie Grant a lot. They also have a 936 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:10,960 Speaker 1: corner named Aaron Robinson at Central Florida. He plays the 937 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,120 Speaker 1: slot for them. He's not the best cover corner in 938 00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:18,000 Speaker 1: terms of you're blanketed all the time, but if guys 939 00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,240 Speaker 1: start pulling away from him, you get to see speed, 940 00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:24,320 Speaker 1: and you see tenaciousness and you see a dude that tackles. 941 00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:28,080 Speaker 1: So Central Florida they got dudes for you in the secondary, 942 00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:32,160 Speaker 1: and those are all guys that if I'm a Cowboy fan, 943 00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,480 Speaker 1: I'm looking at and I'm saying, all right, talk to 944 00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,600 Speaker 1: me about what we're gonna do in rounds two and three, 945 00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,080 Speaker 1: because I think there's a lot of really fun secondary 946 00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,920 Speaker 1: players that I would love to see added to this team. Brian, 947 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:48,319 Speaker 1: you really liked Richie Grant as well out of Central Florida. Correct. Yeah, 948 00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:52,160 Speaker 1: Jeff's absolutely right about him. I think that. And even 949 00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,920 Speaker 1: late last night when I was studying him, it was 950 00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:56,960 Speaker 1: one of those things people ask me, where would you 951 00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,479 Speaker 1: play him? I said, you can play him for back, 952 00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,799 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. There's tape of him playing in the 953 00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:07,440 Speaker 1: middle of the UCF logo ball going all the way 954 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:11,919 Speaker 1: to the outside against Tulsa and he's running I mean dead, 955 00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:15,719 Speaker 1: sprint covering and gets in position I mean the ball 956 00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:19,360 Speaker 1: and even is like I haven't been thrown and he's moving. 957 00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,960 Speaker 1: He read it that fast, and you know, I just 958 00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:27,080 Speaker 1: liked the guy's toughness. He's a physical tackler, sometimes a 959 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,759 Speaker 1: blockdown tackler, but he will throw his body around. The 960 00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,640 Speaker 1: one thing you notice is when he huddles up, his 961 00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:38,200 Speaker 1: uniform is dirtier than everyone else's uniform, and that tells 962 00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,960 Speaker 1: me a lot about the kid. You know, there's everybody 963 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:45,120 Speaker 1: else's uniform looks nice and clean. His is completely a 964 00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:48,320 Speaker 1: mess and that tells me a lot. And so I 965 00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,160 Speaker 1: am a big fan. I think I think he's a 966 00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:54,239 Speaker 1: true free safety. But I also think, like, if you 967 00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,799 Speaker 1: want to put him down in the box and let 968 00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,760 Speaker 1: him tackle and let him take on runners and toss 969 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,719 Speaker 1: sweeps and stuff like that, that's son of again, will 970 00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,279 Speaker 1: Phil and make a play for you, really really good 971 00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:11,640 Speaker 1: football player. Date. Okay, I'm glad. I'm glad y'all didn't. 972 00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,040 Speaker 1: I'm glad y'all didn't take mine because I act like 973 00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,600 Speaker 1: I wrote a I wrote a preview piece for Dallas 974 00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:20,240 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com yesterday and just sort of diving into 975 00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,840 Speaker 1: who all is actually down there and who's actually going 976 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:29,920 Speaker 1: to participate. And I'm excited about these linebackers. Yeah look, okay, 977 00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,400 Speaker 1: I mean there's about there's about six of them that 978 00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,919 Speaker 1: piqued my interest. So we know, Baron Browning, he played 979 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,760 Speaker 1: great in the playoffs. It's good for him. Chaz Serot, 980 00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,279 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks last week on our show talked about him 981 00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,279 Speaker 1: a lot Carolina. I think he had six sacks for 982 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,200 Speaker 1: Carolina this year, which is very intriguing to me. See 983 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,480 Speaker 1: what a guy like Devin White can do in Tampa 984 00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,880 Speaker 1: Bay's defense when you let him blitz and then on 985 00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,160 Speaker 1: the other team obviously, you know, we talked about our 986 00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,799 Speaker 1: guy Jabril Cox last week as well. Uh, maybe the 987 00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,600 Speaker 1: only good thing about La Shoes defense this year. And 988 00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,000 Speaker 1: a name that I'm really interested in that I want 989 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,880 Speaker 1: to know more about is kJ Britt out of Auburn 990 00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:12,360 Speaker 1: All SI's first team All SEC last year ten tackles 991 00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,200 Speaker 1: for loss as a junior when we played in two 992 00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:16,799 Speaker 1: games this year, he had to have surgery on his 993 00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,360 Speaker 1: thumb in October. So this is the first live action 994 00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:23,560 Speaker 1: he's gonna see in you know, three months. And he 995 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,040 Speaker 1: checked in today at what six flat two thirty nine. 996 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,719 Speaker 1: And the other reason this is exciting to me is, 997 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,440 Speaker 1: you know, again like I'm curious to see what that 998 00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,719 Speaker 1: means for like the type of linebacker that dan Quinn 999 00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,359 Speaker 1: might want, because all I can think about with him 1000 00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,680 Speaker 1: is he drafted Dion Jones, who turned you know, undersized 1001 00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,200 Speaker 1: linebacker who turned into a great player. He did it 1002 00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:47,520 Speaker 1: again with Duke Ridley, who never really hit that potential. 1003 00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:50,439 Speaker 1: But again, like you can, oh, thank you wow. Even 1004 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,760 Speaker 1: went to LSU and I screwed up his name thank you, Jeff. 1005 00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:58,839 Speaker 1: But like the archetype is what interests me. Like Dan 1006 00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:03,640 Speaker 1: Quinn is not afraid draft shorter, smaller, faster linebackers. And 1007 00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,680 Speaker 1: there's a few of those guys in Mobile. I just 1008 00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,000 Speaker 1: listed off a few of them. But Sarat is really 1009 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:12,319 Speaker 1: interesting to me. Britt is really interesting to me just 1010 00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,520 Speaker 1: because he's coming off of this injury. So and none 1011 00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,320 Speaker 1: of these guys are like, you know, first round targets 1012 00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,080 Speaker 1: by the way, So these are all guys that the 1013 00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:24,560 Speaker 1: Cowboys could maybe fined on like day two, and that's 1014 00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,360 Speaker 1: really exciting to me. So that's yeah, I like that 1015 00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,839 Speaker 1: a lot. Hey, Kyle, And there's another group you need 1016 00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,120 Speaker 1: to kind of keep an eye on, and maybe not 1017 00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:35,239 Speaker 1: so much for cowboys sake, but you know, just are 1018 00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,319 Speaker 1: you gonna have to sort out what's going on with 1019 00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:43,319 Speaker 1: Jordan Smith from Alabama Birmingham as a potential defensive end linebacker. 1020 00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:47,400 Speaker 1: Rashod Weaver's another one from Pitt that is kind of 1021 00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,920 Speaker 1: that six four two or sixty five pound guy. You know, 1022 00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:54,640 Speaker 1: there's some good defensive ends in this thing that that 1023 00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,560 Speaker 1: people are gonna have to say, Okay, is he a 1024 00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,719 Speaker 1: linebacker or is he an end? That's the great thing 1025 00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,879 Speaker 1: about the Senior Bowl because these coaches will play these 1026 00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,759 Speaker 1: guys with a couple of different spots and you can 1027 00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:07,839 Speaker 1: kind of get a gauge of really how they fit 1028 00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:12,000 Speaker 1: best for your scheme, whether you're an odd scheme or 1029 00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,000 Speaker 1: an even scheme, you know, with a four three or 1030 00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:18,240 Speaker 1: three four. I've got I got one more tube And Brian, 1031 00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,600 Speaker 1: it kind of touches on that you. You have talked 1032 00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:24,640 Speaker 1: on our show already about levionez Errik, right, I have. 1033 00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,480 Speaker 1: He's one of my He's one of my favorite players. 1034 00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:31,200 Speaker 1: So yeah, shame on me. I'm behind you. Obviously I 1035 00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,080 Speaker 1: didn't realize he was an opt out. Yeah, I didn't 1036 00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,480 Speaker 1: realize that he didn't play in twenty twenty, and so 1037 00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:40,000 Speaker 1: he's down there, he's gonna compete, and like, I wish 1038 00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,880 Speaker 1: we got to see more of that, is I wish 1039 00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,480 Speaker 1: more of these optout guys were doing stuff like this. 1040 00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:49,640 Speaker 1: So you know it's not our Michigan's got a couple 1041 00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,319 Speaker 1: of guys Andy Thomas and Nico Collins. There's some opt 1042 00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:53,920 Speaker 1: out guys that are going down there and getting in 1043 00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:57,439 Speaker 1: the action. It's very exciting to me that a guy, 1044 00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:59,840 Speaker 1: you know, because the thing about optouts is you're scared 1045 00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:01,759 Speaker 1: of about not knowing what they look like after a 1046 00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,680 Speaker 1: year away. Well, if you've got these three practices of 1047 00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,960 Speaker 1: Levi going against badasses, that makes me feel a hell 1048 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:12,040 Speaker 1: of a lot better about drafting him. So, yeah, this guy, David, 1049 00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:16,640 Speaker 1: I'm glad you mentioned it because he is my ideal undertackle. 1050 00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:20,440 Speaker 1: You know that three technique guy plays in the outside 1051 00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,640 Speaker 1: shoulder of the guard. I mean, he is this guy. 1052 00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,200 Speaker 1: He can make some things happen at the point of attack. 1053 00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:29,520 Speaker 1: When you watch him, he's super active. He does a 1054 00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,600 Speaker 1: nice job of finding the ball, he gets over, he 1055 00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:36,800 Speaker 1: finishes plays. I mean, Washington's got a couple of guys 1056 00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,959 Speaker 1: like I mentioned, I mentioned Molden. They've got a guy 1057 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:44,480 Speaker 1: try on the defensive end, number nine. Uh. That's uh, 1058 00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:48,520 Speaker 1: that's a that's a good player for them. Uh Levi here, 1059 00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:53,319 Speaker 1: I mean they got down. Yeah, I haven't. I haven't 1060 00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:58,640 Speaker 1: watched him yet, but it wasn't a yeah. If you've 1061 00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,200 Speaker 1: got if you've got some access to the University of 1062 00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:05,359 Speaker 1: Washington tape, whether this year or in twenty nineteen, man, 1063 00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,400 Speaker 1: you can make some really good use of it. Owns 1064 00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,839 Speaker 1: a rique by the way, and David and I talked 1065 00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,919 Speaker 1: about this earlier. If there were to be a Dallas Day, 1066 00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:16,120 Speaker 1: which I don't know if that's even gonna happen because 1067 00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:19,080 Speaker 1: of COVID nineteen and whatnot. Later in the draft process, 1068 00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,800 Speaker 1: I believe the rules are that no team can have 1069 00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:25,480 Speaker 1: any player at their facility at all ever leading up 1070 00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:27,400 Speaker 1: to the draft. Okay, well there you go, So no 1071 00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,400 Speaker 1: Dallas Day, never mind. I was gonna say, he's right. Yeah, 1072 00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,440 Speaker 1: he's from Allen Allen High School. He was a former 1073 00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,640 Speaker 1: Alan Eagle, so he's down the road. He would have 1074 00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:39,320 Speaker 1: been at least in that discussion, but not this year 1075 00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:43,400 Speaker 1: because of COVID nineteen. He needs to be in the 1076 00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,880 Speaker 1: discussion of defensive tackles. You're going to drop agree that 1077 00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,640 Speaker 1: he needs to be in this dus. Yeah, I'm all 1078 00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:51,800 Speaker 1: on that train. That would be awesome if you take 1079 00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:53,640 Speaker 1: him in the second or the third round. I don't 1080 00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:54,920 Speaker 1: know if he makes it to the third, but you 1081 00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,520 Speaker 1: take him in the second at forty four, I think 1082 00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,400 Speaker 1: I think he's a second round player. Yeah, I think 1083 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,640 Speaker 1: your second round. Yeah. This happens to me every single year, 1084 00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:07,160 Speaker 1: so I'm not surprised at all by this point. But 1085 00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:11,040 Speaker 1: you know, you look at your options at ten. You're like, okay, 1086 00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,440 Speaker 1: like you know Farley cer ten, those are good players. 1087 00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,840 Speaker 1: That's kind of that, that would be fine. But I 1088 00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,440 Speaker 1: started getting really excited when you start pitching me on 1089 00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:20,520 Speaker 1: who could be available in the second round. I'm like, 1090 00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,600 Speaker 1: holy crap, that guy might be there. Like there's been 1091 00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:26,080 Speaker 1: about eight of those guys where I'm like, like, own 1092 00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:27,960 Speaker 1: z Arique is a great example. Like you're telling me 1093 00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,280 Speaker 1: I could get him at forty four. That's way more 1094 00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,960 Speaker 1: exciting to me than the options at ten. I just 1095 00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,120 Speaker 1: that happens every year. Though, let's take him at ten. 1096 00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:39,200 Speaker 1: Guys cannot here you go? Can I bring up one 1097 00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,680 Speaker 1: more guy? We talked about guys that can maybe help 1098 00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:43,760 Speaker 1: himself and I don't know if you guys will agree 1099 00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:45,800 Speaker 1: on this player, but it's on the offensive side of 1100 00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:50,400 Speaker 1: the ball. Alex Leatherwood from Alabama. Yeah, yes, And I 1101 00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:54,040 Speaker 1: want to I want to say Alex Leatherwood like going 1102 00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:57,200 Speaker 1: back to Alabama. I can understand it because of way 1103 00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:01,160 Speaker 1: the draft fell last year, but I want to see 1104 00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:04,560 Speaker 1: if Alex Leatherwood is in that mix of the guys 1105 00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:08,200 Speaker 1: this year. The top guys. So these tackles we've talked 1106 00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:12,320 Speaker 1: about with Slater and Seul, you know, and the and 1107 00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:17,880 Speaker 1: the derreshaf Or Dershaw from Virginia Tech. I want to 1108 00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:21,040 Speaker 1: see where Alex Leatherwood comes out of that, and again 1109 00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:24,760 Speaker 1: from Alabama. Keep an eye on him the type of 1110 00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:29,360 Speaker 1: week he has him and h and Deontay Brown, his 1111 00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:33,880 Speaker 1: running buddy from Alabama is there as well, being just 1112 00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:37,680 Speaker 1: a massive guy. So two guys that if you're looking 1113 00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:42,760 Speaker 1: for offensive lineman one tackle, one guard and kind of 1114 00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:46,840 Speaker 1: play that. I'm really excited about seeing Creed Humphrey too 1115 00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:51,240 Speaker 1: from Oklahoma the center. So yeah, so just kind of 1116 00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:53,640 Speaker 1: keep an eye on some of these offensive lineman two 1117 00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:57,000 Speaker 1: and see where they're gonna fall in the mix when 1118 00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,600 Speaker 1: we get to start stacking these boards. Isn't that fun 1119 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,320 Speaker 1: about the Senior Bowl because we can start it talking 1120 01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:05,920 Speaker 1: about guys from Grambling State and Northern Iowa and how 1121 01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:07,760 Speaker 1: we're excited to see that, and then at the end 1122 01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:11,960 Speaker 1: you're talking about Creed Humphrey from Oklahoma and Alex Leatherwood 1123 01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:14,280 Speaker 1: from Alabama, and you get to talk about the big 1124 01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:16,960 Speaker 1: school guys and the small school guys they combine. You 1125 01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,320 Speaker 1: get to have all kind of that that competition and 1126 01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:22,480 Speaker 1: getting in the thick of things and I love that 1127 01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:24,440 Speaker 1: about the Senior Bowl. It's always been one of my 1128 01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:26,720 Speaker 1: favorite events, and I think that continues even in a 1129 01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,480 Speaker 1: year like this, and I'm so glad that they will 1130 01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:31,720 Speaker 1: have it. We'll have plenty of updates throughout the week 1131 01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,040 Speaker 1: from the Senior Bowl, even though we are not there 1132 01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:37,200 Speaker 1: in Mobile. We'll be back on Thursday ten am. Jeff 1133 01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,760 Speaker 1: might be on that show should we not be able 1134 01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,640 Speaker 1: to get Bucky Brooks back on for a Thursday. But 1135 01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:46,440 Speaker 1: for today that's just because he didn't getting show him. 1136 01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:50,000 Speaker 1: Now I get kicked off my show. Yeah, we'll see. Yeah, Yeah, 1137 01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:53,840 Speaker 1: that's that's how we're rotating cast works. Bucky doesn't come back, 1138 01:00:53,920 --> 01:01:01,200 Speaker 1: I'll volunteer. It'll be fine, Jess said about it. But 1139 01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:03,600 Speaker 1: for Matt Kent in the back for Jeff Cavanaugh, Bryan 1140 01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,040 Speaker 1: brought us is David Elman up, Kyle Youelman's thanks for listening. 1141 01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:09,120 Speaker 1: We'll see you Thursday on the Draft Show. This has 1142 01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:12,000 Speaker 1: been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the 1143 01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:13,760 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys Football Club.