1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast is jealous of the way 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: Mark looks at Dan. Oh. Well, one person is in 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: between us from the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's Around 4 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: the NFL. I'm Dan Hansas with Greg Rosenthal, that man 5 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: who looks at the way Mark and I look at 6 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: each other, Mark Sessler, and he goes, how that is 7 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: not true. I'm loving how we're all looking at each other. 8 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: You know, we're coming off the team of at L 9 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: delivering you doubt the NFL for one second after a 10 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: snoozy afternoon slate, and here it comes with a season 11 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: finale for the ages two hundred seventy two games now 12 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: in the books, and the playoffs are set Mark Sessler. 13 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: You know Greg, when I do look at Dan that 14 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: way and you're here on the table in between us, 15 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: it's just a nice Gregg sandwich. And the way we're 16 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: just both giving you are at warmth. You're not excluded 17 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: from it. Well, the bread is always my favorite party. 18 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: Back to the game, you are the meat um to 19 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: seventy two in the books, the playoffs are set ten 20 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 1: regular seasons in the books, ten regular season for us 21 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: in the books. Here's the playoff schedule let's start there. Okay, 22 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: the west of this game the traditional early Saturday ball 23 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: game four thirty pm Eastern. That's later, yeah, west of 24 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: US used to be earlier. Seattle Seahawks seventh seed at 25 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: San Francisco two seed on Fox. Saturday Night, Chargers five 26 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:45,279 Speaker 1: seed at Jags four seed a f c uh window. 27 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: That's NBC Peacock. Sunday, we have number seven Miami at 28 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: number two Buffalo at one pm Eastern, CBS at four 29 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: thirty pm Eastern, the NFC matchup between the Giants and Vikings, 30 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: a six three matchup on Fox. Then a final Sunday 31 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: game Baltimore six seed at Cincinnati three seed rematch of 32 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: week eighteen, and then yes new as of last season, 33 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: a Monday night playoff game eight fifteen Eastern. Dallas Cowboys 34 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: the five seed at Tampa Bay Buccaneers the four seed. 35 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: There you go, that's the first round of the playoffs. 36 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: We're gonna get to all the games, but that is 37 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: what we got coming up next week. Here we go. 38 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: I mean, the least surprising development on our entire planet 39 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: is that they put the Dallas Cowboys against Tom Brady 40 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: as the Monday night affair, right, I think I don't know. 41 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: Actually last year that wasn't like the primetime slot, you know, 42 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: because it's ESPN and everything. I think they UM had 43 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: some bad games there. They of course, UM had a 44 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: game cut short last Monday night. So that's like almost 45 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: a make good and it's a fun it's a fun 46 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,679 Speaker 1: little slate. Marks. Sometimes you gotta with your corporate partners, 47 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: you've got to make sure the relationships stay strong, so 48 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: you give them an ARCAS team before they eliminate. That's 49 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: I think they're all sweating because they're like, how can 50 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: we tap what the old Lions and Packers did on 51 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: on NBC. We need the Lions in this wild card. Greg, 52 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: you spent all day long telling Dan and I in 53 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: all week and it didn't matter that I didn't say that. 54 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: I said it could be great theater. Whether they are 55 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: there or not, well that's what, whether they can make 56 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: the playoffs or not. Let's set the table. We're gonna 57 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: get through all the games from Sunday. We're gonna start 58 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: with the NFC uh and that Sunday night game, but 59 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: also UH, keep in mind we're gonna hit the a 60 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: f C later, including obviously the first game for the 61 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills um since Damar Hamlin's um issue on Monday night, 62 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: and what a dramatic scene that was. So a lot 63 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: of good football to talk about, uh, including keeping our 64 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: eye on what's going on with the league as Black Monday, 65 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: New horizons Monday fast approaches. But let us start yes 66 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: Sunday night football, the final game of the regular season. 67 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: There it is new horizons. That's called massaging. It's a softer, 68 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: gentler approach to facing new horizons. The seasons are over. 69 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: We start at lambeau Field, where the Green Bay Packers, 70 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 1: where one went away from an improbable playoff appearance when 71 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: they look down and out the Detroit Lions, the team 72 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: of around the NFL found out earlier their season was 73 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: ending no matter what. After the Seattle Seahawks were victorious 74 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: over the Rams, and yet we still got a great 75 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: ball game. So here we go. The Lions could end 76 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 1: this ball game right here. Fourth and one from the 77 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: Green Bay fifteen golf takes. The snap back looks gross 78 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: part first down, Detroit Lions d J chalked down inside 79 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: the ten yard line. This jame is over. It is over. 80 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 1: I'll secute a couple of steps and these Lions are 81 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: calling hold of a victory. How big is this football team? 82 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: Pin tonight? Do you want to change the conversation? Win 83 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: some games? And that's exactly what they've done in it Graverer, 84 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: One last time, baby, who will be the team? Team? 85 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: Team with the e te holy won't team? They're in 86 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: the right? They we got mark team. Oh yes, this 87 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 1: is a very special honor. Oh it's the last time 88 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: we'll hear that theme. But man, the Lions go out 89 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:05,239 Speaker 1: in a beautiful way a six win over the Green 90 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: Bay Packers. The Detroit Lions, who were once one in 91 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: six and road kill in the NFC, finished nine and 92 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 1: eight and eliminate the hated Green Bay Packers in their bill. 93 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: How many big games have the Packers lost in their building? 94 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers era, It's usually happened in the postseason. This 95 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: year they sucked in that fan base and then laid 96 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: an egg on Sunday night. But I still greg want 97 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 1: to give plenty of credit, as we should to the Lions, 98 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: who could easily lost that juice when once they knew 99 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: they weren't going to go to the dance, and yet 100 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: they finished off what was a truly promising season for 101 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: the organization. You say, laying egg, I hear you. I say, 102 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: lost a great game to a better team. They scored 103 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: sixteen points in a do or die game in their building. 104 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: All I'm saying is like these two teams were better 105 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: than plenty of it teams that made the playoffs. I 106 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 1: believe that that the the Lions UH had to go 107 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: out and take that game. I love that the Lions 108 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: get the ball in the fourth quarter down three, march 109 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: down to take the lead. Then on third and ten, 110 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers sees a full house blitz No f's given 111 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: by Aaron Glenn. He sends the house and Dare's the 112 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: fourth time m v P to beat them. Instead, he 113 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: makes a mistake. Kirby Joseph picks it off. It was 114 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: the third near interception and that Joseph had that this one. 115 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: He finishes off. Then on third or second and seventeen 116 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: to call that lateral play. The stones of Down Campbell 117 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: and Ben Johnson in that moment and then for the 118 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: Lions season to essentially end like so many other moments 119 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: of this Lions season, a fourth down decision, you can 120 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: go for the field goal to get up a touchdown 121 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: where he can do what Dan Campbell does, and you 122 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: can go for it and not so much about bad 123 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: outcomes and trust in your players and end this Packers season. 124 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: I wish they were in the playoffs, but man, you 125 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: can't tell me that this is not a sweet, sweet 126 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: victory and moment for this franchise, the team of a 127 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: t A. It kind of threw me on the broadcast 128 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: because they mentioned more than once, well because they've been eliminated, 129 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: Probably they wouldn't have done that one play the pitch 130 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: back to downer stuff. Maybe they wouldn't go for it 131 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: on fourth ones, like, but this is who who Dan Campbell. 132 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: The Lions have been all year long. It looked to 133 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: me like a lot of a Lions games, where isn't 134 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: it isn't like we're trying to be completely out of 135 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: bounds in terms of our risk taking. But they do 136 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: go for it, and it's a very twenty three approach um. 137 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 1: It is a massive organizational lift for Dan Campbell for 138 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: everyone because when they were truly floating in the Abyss 139 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: with their record as it was, it was like nice story, 140 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: but a lot like a lot of these hard knocks. 141 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: Nice story, there's nothing to it when it comes down 142 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: to it, and it completely turned around. I mean they 143 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: overcame a couple of things tonight too, because you had 144 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: a Kurby Joseph pick that was taken away by that 145 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: hands to the face. They had a missfield goal in 146 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: a tight game that Jamison Williams sixty one yard catch 147 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: and run bomb that was pulled back by flag. I 148 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: mean a lot of penalties win against Lions to the 149 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: Lines tonight. But they kept overcoming. And I think that 150 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: is who they are, and like, yes, I think that 151 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: they're in the they were in the playoffs. They are 152 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: not a team you'd want to face. It's it's lucky. 153 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: It's a fortunate situation for a couple of these mezzanine 154 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: level NFC teams. Yeah, you feel a little bit cheat, 155 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: with all due respect to the Seattle Seahawks, to the 156 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,719 Speaker 1: New York Giants, those teams in the back end of 157 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: the playoff picture Detroit to me and and for instance, 158 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: I have a bit of a conundrum with the power rankings, 159 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: which will come out in a couple of days, and 160 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: it's like I'm gonna have the Lines as the top 161 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: ten team in the NFL, because that's exactly what they are. 162 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: It just didn't work out for them in terms of 163 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: uh tiebreakers, and they just ran out of games to 164 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: really to get into the dance. So it but it 165 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 1: does give them a huge, huge, like kind of trampoline 166 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: jump as they looked to next year and there will 167 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: be expectations in a way that you haven't seen around 168 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: this team in many years. And that's for down the road. 169 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: Do we have Jamal Williams after the game, Uh, speaking 170 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: with NBC Sports, I'm just grateful, are grateful to be 171 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,599 Speaker 1: able to play this game from our great great grandfather. 172 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: And I'm glad that he's looking down at me. I 173 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: know I'm making him proud for him. Yeah, this is 174 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: for him and other days. Stop playing us. Man, we 175 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: may we had the Detroit Lions. We did, Detroit Lions. 176 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: Stop playing with us. I don't even watch TV, but 177 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: I heard everybody already picked the Packers over us. That's 178 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: the lines of the nutshell. He pivoted mid mid tear, 179 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: like the tears were halfway down his face talking about 180 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: his grandfather to pointing at the camera and saying nobody 181 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: believed in US, and he's right except for Mark. I 182 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: was just gonna jemp, Well, this is a smart strategy. 183 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 1: That we talked about before. I was like, I had 184 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: a feeling that everyone was gonna jump on the Aaron 185 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: Rodgers thing. It's like they are the team of at 186 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: L so as I'm just obviously gonna pick the Lions 187 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: thinking less people would and no one on this little 188 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: like graphic they did, no one else didn't. Just looks 189 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: it makes you look. As I said in the text, 190 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: it's kind of a cloud hack. And now what you 191 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: need to do the next step or your representation and 192 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: I know who your representation is. You need to get 193 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: this to Lion social media so they can amplify it, 194 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: and then your cloud is yeah, and I know on 195 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: on Greg's game, Dame you also, I've been picking them 196 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: every week. They're to me getting into first place. You're 197 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 1: doing this TV show, just doing this dot com picks 198 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 1: thing that gets tweeted. That's how you do. I used 199 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: to be in that picks thing, and then the guy 200 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: that sent the email like hey, get your picks in 201 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: just gave up on me. I couldn't do it anymore. 202 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: I just like I can't one other thing. I give 203 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 1: you respect for staying with it. Thank you. I'm a 204 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: I'm a company person, like I think that something that 205 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: almost overtook what happened to Detroit in this game was 206 00:11:56,440 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: the imagery, the camera work, and the somewhat miss serious 207 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: uh language by the NBC broadcasting group about Aaron Rodgers 208 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: arm in arm with with Randall Cobb walking off the field. 209 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: And it was Jamison william Williams who walked up to 210 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: Roger and said could I could we switch jerseys? Which 211 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: is a common thing, maybe not always with Aaron Rodgers, 212 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: but he sort of said, now I want to keep 213 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: this one. Jameson Williams got like, I have four career catches, 214 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: can can? I have? Happens all the time, but like, 215 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: but it's just like the way they showed Rogers pensively 216 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: looking around Lambeau. It changed the tone. We get that feeling, 217 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: um when you're watching something or you're listening to the 218 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: the announcers or like they know something that you don't yet. 219 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 1: There was that vibe the way Tariko was setting it up, 220 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,839 Speaker 1: and then the way the camera was just I mean, 221 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 1: this truly was like kind of the story of the game. Yes, 222 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: the Packer season was over and another season was over 223 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,719 Speaker 1: for Rogers, this all time great player, but for a 224 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: lot of football fans. The story was really like the 225 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: Lions and the journey of their season and over so 226 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: many obstacles and then winning in Lambeau to end the season. 227 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: But that is not the way NBC covered it. And 228 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: we'll find out. We're gonna learn more about it. But 229 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: they have the cameras right in Rogers face. He obviously 230 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: is taking things in, looking around the field with his 231 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 1: best buddy Randall cop walking back into the tunnel, into 232 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: the unknown. So we'll see. We'll see if that was 233 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: a red herring or something that tells us what's coming 234 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: next for the Packers. I absolutely got the feeling that 235 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: Tariko and Collinsworth had a feeling about this game based 236 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: on no based on the conversation that they had they 237 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: spent days when with Rogers and with Green Bay. It's 238 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: just like they with Aaron. Yeah, and and La Fleur 239 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: after the game said, you know, in my mind, you know, 240 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: he expects Rogers back, but he's going to decide that 241 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: and we'll see, because that does paint a different picture. 242 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 1: It does, because this was such, you know, a disappointing 243 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: and to this season for the package. You're right, I 244 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: hadn't even I didn't so wrapped up in the Lions 245 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: that I hadn't even thought about, Like kind of what 246 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: a crushing end because the Packers would have gone into 247 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: the playoffs believing that they could do something. Now, either 248 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 1: the Packers or the Lions would have been playing the 249 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: forty Niners tough, tough spot. I think the forty Niners 250 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 1: have to be thrilled they're playing the Seahawks, considering that 251 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: their history against them in their recent history this year. Uh, 252 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: but man, that that that's a crushing way to lose. 253 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: After they got everyone all worked up and had a 254 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: lead in the fourth quarter over the Detroit Lions, give 255 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: up that touchdown, drive, thrown interception, can't get a stop. Ultimately, 256 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: they fell short big time in a fourth quarter, just 257 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: like they did throughout the beginning part of the season. 258 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: I would have loved to see Lions Niners. I think 259 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: that would have been fascination. You know how you can 260 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: blame for that a little bit. Who Baker Mayfield. We'll 261 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: get to it. I mean, among other people. We're gonna 262 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: look at the season. I'm just saying before before we 263 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: move on from this game, I do want to say, 264 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: like there's a chance Jared Goff like We don't know 265 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: what his future is going to be. Certainly expect him 266 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: to be the Week one starter there next year, but 267 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: you never know the way this game started with him 268 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: throwing a lot of dirt balls and and struggling in 269 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: the cold. Everyone's kind of joking about his small hands. Man. 270 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: There was the drive before halftime where it's like third 271 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: and five, uh, and they're down nine three and they 272 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: just got the fumble back and he leaves the drive, 273 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: and then Campbell goes forward on fourth and two when 274 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: they're down. Remember they're going forward on fourth down when 275 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: they were behind on that touch center and Golf had 276 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: that nice throw down the field like he delivered. Man, 277 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: He delivered his play after play after playing, just like 278 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: delivered Jammal Williams. We heard breaking Barry Sanders touchdown record 279 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: and Jared Goff you may not be like the John 280 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: Wayne of the NFL quarterbacks, not the picture of like 281 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: what what the great ones look like or how they performed, 282 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: but he was fearless in this game as well. Goodbye 283 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: to the I was gonna say, like how many it's 284 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: been a season where a number of quarterbacks have changed 285 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: what we think about him entirely, But the easy, comfortable 286 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: jokes about Jared Goff and his personality and his sort 287 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: of you know, bowl of milk or glass of milk 288 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: type persona like throw it all away. I mean what 289 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: he did this season was a pretty amazing, great year 290 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: for that offense, great year for the lines, even fall 291 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: short of the playoffs. Song, So long, team of a 292 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: t N. I don't know how we picked another one 293 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: next year. That is the goat team of a t 294 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: N in my impression, in my humble opinion, Let's move 295 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: on now. All right, we mentioned the Seattle Seahawks. They 296 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: are going to the playoffs because they got it done. 297 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: Give him credit last week against the Jets, and yes 298 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: against Baker Mayfield and the Rams. Jed Myers win this 299 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: wing over time for the Seahol Sars, the staff, the spot, 300 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: the kickers are wain, the Tickers God. The final regular 301 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: season game over the year there wined at home against 302 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: the Rams, and now the playoff chance is still and 303 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: as we know, they got the result they needed on 304 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: Sunday night with the Packers falling. That allows the Seattle 305 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: Seahawks to move into the postseason with Gino Smith as 306 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 1: their quarterback. That is a real success story for this 307 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: organization in nineteen sixteen win over the l A. Rams, who, 308 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: as we have said last week, had already set a 309 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: record for the most losses ever for defending champion. They 310 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: finished five and twelve. Uh. This is a game that 311 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 1: was close throughout. Seattle had gotten set up after a 312 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: very questionable, in my opinion, personal foul on Jalen Ramsey 313 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: on a hit on the sideline on Gino Smith set 314 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: them up for what looked like it was going to 315 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 1: be a game winning football. At the end of regulation, 316 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: Jason Meyer hits the uprights, but after a terrible Mayfield 317 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: interception and overtime, they get another chance kicked the field goal, 318 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: game over Seattle advances. The look on Sean mcveigh's face 319 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 1: as he was walking to ghost shake Pete Carroll's hand 320 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: was very memorable to me. The day started with reports 321 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: really pumping up that McVeigh may not be back with 322 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: the rams Ian rapport J Glazer everyone, but he had 323 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: always owned Pete Carroll and that was the difference this season. 324 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: I guess between the Seahawks of old and this Seahawks team. 325 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: I know they got to play this Ramsey mean, Yet 326 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: when you watch these two Rams games against the Seahawks. 327 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: They had both of them in control in the fourth 328 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: quarter and Gino Smith and the Seahawks eventually get it done. 329 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna try to pretend like they played a 330 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 1: great game. Gino threw a pick right off the bat 331 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 1: to Jalen Ramsey, seemed a little shook, didn't throw with 332 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: a lot of confidence for much of the game. Could 333 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: have had more picks, had two in this game. Um, 334 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: But when they needed a drive late, got a little 335 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 1: help by that Ramsey called. But were also moving the 336 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: ball by the end of the game much better. By 337 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 1: that point in the game, Baker Mayfield, that sort of 338 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: run out of answers was just throwing up hope balls. 339 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: And the Seahawks did just enough against a bad Rams 340 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: team to get there and to give the fighting Dan 341 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 1: Campbell's a chance. And I think Seahawks fans who are 342 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: winding on Monday about how unfair it was that the 343 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: Lions were playing later I should send an apology, maybe 344 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: a fruit basket to Detroit for all that they've done. 345 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: It's a lot of fruit baskets. Yeah, sure, yeah. The 346 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: the after the game, after the missed field goal, you 347 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: go to ot and Seattle goes three and out and 348 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 1: there's the chance for the Rams and uh, you know Baker, 349 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: who was very up and down with the Rams, just 350 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 1: like he's been for most of his career. They have 351 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 1: a chance to win the game. Uh. Van Jefferson kind 352 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: of streaks open on a second and fifteen and if 353 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: Baker just zips it in there, uh, that's a big game, 354 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 1: and who knows what happens at that point. Instead, he 355 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: puts a lot of air under it. It throws a 356 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: balloon that's intercepted by Quandre Diggs, who waves at Bobby 357 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: Wagner on the sideline as he goes out of bounds, 358 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: and um, it was very close to over at that point. 359 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: So a tough way for the Baker season to end 360 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: as we look at a very unknown time around the 361 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: Rams as Sean mcveigh's status unknown, Baker status, who knows. 362 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I think if you look at that Baker 363 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: performance against the Broncos on Christmas Day, which was pretty flawless, 364 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: although it wasn't asking him to save the world, but 365 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: it was a very clean game. But outside of that, 366 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: because of that, Raiders comeback was they were abysmal from 367 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: most of that game until the very end, and it's 368 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: been spurts where Baker I think it's been impressive to 369 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: come in and do it without a full off season 370 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 1: or a lot of time to get up to snuff 371 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: in their offense. But a lot of times it's looked 372 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: like Baker Mayfield and especially last week and this week, 373 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: missing certain throws that would have saved the Rams. Your 374 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: playing with no Cooper Cup. I mean, there's people missing 375 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: all over the place. The offensive lines look better despite 376 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 1: you know, Akers done fine for the situation. He's he's 377 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: him though, he's just him. That was the pocket was 378 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: clean and Jefferson was open, and like I said, he 379 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: threw a blimp right in a couple plays before that. 380 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: I guess I'm thinking of the drive to end regulation 381 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: where they could have gone down and tried to kick 382 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 1: a game win field goal. He also missed Jefferson. He's 383 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: just he's just slow making decisions um where he's always 384 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 1: like a beat late, and that that's been his problem 385 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: in The Seahawks benefited from that. They got the Jets 386 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: at the right time, they had the right Week eighteen opponent, 387 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: and they beat the Lions, and that's it sucks, but 388 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: they played that game. I remember that game well, it 389 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: was like five. It was one of Juneau's best games. 390 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: It was at the point of the season where the 391 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: Lions defense just couldn't do anything and they tried to 392 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: keep up and a shootout, and unfortunately for lines like 393 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: that game loomed super large because I don't think the 394 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: Seahawks team that's entering the playoffs is at their best 395 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,239 Speaker 1: right now. You never know if things could change, but 396 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: I think this is the worst matchup possible. They got 397 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: blown out twice by the forty nine to twenty was 398 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: the combined score of those two games, and it didn't 399 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: look that close either one of those times. Uh, you 400 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: never know. It's still an incredible success story for them 401 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: to be able to celebrate tonight. Ken Walker had a 402 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: nice dayteen yards. They really wrote. Here's a quote from Digs, 403 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: who had the interception that's set up to win of Jefferson. 404 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: That dude was wide open. In my mind, I was 405 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: thinking the worst. I felt like I was twenty five again, 406 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: running and jumping in the air. It was one of 407 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: those plays they drew it up perfect god us in 408 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: the coverage they wanted, and I was going to go 409 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: out and make a play. So credit to Seattle. They're 410 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: moving on and it might not be the game that 411 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: people want to see, but at the end of the day, 412 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Seahawks fans, congratulations, it's been an awesome ride. 413 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 1: Got the division too. I think the way that the 414 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: way that ended, in the look on his face, I 415 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: was like, man, if they had won this game, would 416 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: it have changed range? I hope not. But feeling and 417 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: the reports that he's just like so down and stuff 418 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 1: and then too he man, he just like crestfallen. I 419 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: wanted to mention that it is new Horizons Monday coming up, 420 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: and this was from schefter. McVeigh has gone back and 421 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: forth on the decision and needs time to get away 422 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: to process all that has transpired over the past year, 423 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: winning a Super Bowl, being courted to work in television, 424 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: getting married, watching his wife's home country of Ukraine, invaded, 425 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: losing his grandfather, and then a coaching a team that 426 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: has fallen short of expectations. Which one of those doesn't 427 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: fit in with the others. Well, all right, I I 428 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,479 Speaker 1: know what you're saying, but like, who, I'm sorry? Everything serious? No, no, no, 429 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: not at all, But just like I like that that's 430 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 1: coming from him, I would see, and maybe the war 431 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:54,719 Speaker 1: in Rain really stands out when you bullet pointed like that. 432 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: It's kind of the most absurd thing I've heard. None 433 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: of the rest of it. I think like it mattered 434 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: except for that this season has been miserable and he 435 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 1: works works himself in a way that he was considering 436 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: retiring last year. I don't think that was the feature 437 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: that came out about him before the season, And like 438 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: the one picture of Payne was the fact that he 439 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: can't just let any of the stuff go. So we'll see. 440 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: But they also talked about someone who wants to go 441 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: out and have the best coach, the most coaching wins. Ever, 442 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: so it's like, which are you? I read? Uh? I 443 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: read uh. The our friend Jordan Rodrigan the Athletic about it, 444 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: and I just thought it was notable. She noted that 445 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: the Rams don't think he'd be retiring from football. They 446 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: think he'd be taking a break, kind of like Sean Payton, 447 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: and by taking a break, they could either be waiting 448 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: for him to come back, which is almost impossible, or 449 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: they just know that they will be able to get 450 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 1: some draft picks for him, and they could use some 451 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 1: draft picks whenever he does come. It could be mutually beneficial. 452 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: At this point in Rams history, they are it doesn't 453 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: feel like they're close to getting back to a super Bowl, 454 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 1: and I just wonder what that roster and everyone's saying, 455 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,719 Speaker 1: all Matthew, Matthew, Stafford will be back. I don't know. 456 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 1: It's an interesting Jordan would be a great person to 457 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: have on the show for our next episode of Flashpoint 458 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: because McVeigh knew that something about Stafford that we don't know, 459 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: and then the Rams know something about McVeigh that we 460 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: don't know. It's like a you know, all right, let 461 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: us take a break and we will continue on. All right, 462 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 1: let's welcome back if you're just joining us, which would 463 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: be weird. It's a podcast Week eighteens in the books 464 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: to seventy two in the books. We got the playoffs set. 465 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: We continue now roll through the NFC. We finally we've 466 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: been waiting and waiting for the Eagles to lock down 467 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: the NFC, and everyone seed they finally did it. Hurts 468 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 1: gives it off to Scott up the middle Touchtoff does Okay, 469 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: that was the best highlight I could think to give 470 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 1: the great thing This was not um I was tasked 471 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: with watching both NFCUS games today. Not great is sometimes 472 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 1: you feel like you're earning your money a little bit. 473 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 1: You know. NFC East was not dynamic in Week eight 474 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: team which isn't to say teams involved in the NFC 475 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 1: East will not be dynamic in the next few weeks. 476 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: We've got three of them in the playoffs. It is 477 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: to say that maybe some of them will be. The 478 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles are the number one seed after a two 479 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,679 Speaker 1: to sixteen win over the New York Giants, who remain 480 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: the number six seed. The Giants next week will travel, 481 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: as I said, to Minneapolis to face the Vikings, who 482 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: they played very tough on Christmas Eve. The Eagles the 483 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: the what do they say the fruit of their spoils? 484 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 1: Is that right? The spoils of their fruit to the 485 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: victor goes to spoils fruit something about fruit. They get fruit. 486 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 1: It's their labor, fruit of their labor. Wait, did anybody 487 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: hear anything? No, I didn't hear anything I think was 488 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 1: fruit of their labor? Yes, justin um, yeah, just back 489 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: to your earlier point. That was Philly's only touchdown. What 490 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: other highlight works that Kenny Golladay's touchdown that was finally 491 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: in his last game was a Giant most likely did 492 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: score touchdown, but anyway, um, they take care of business. 493 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: I said on the Thursday previous show, Boys that I 494 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: thought it was kind of an important game for the Eagles, 495 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: not just to win against the Giants backups, and trust me, 496 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 1: it was all Giants backups for the most part. Um 497 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 1: play well and they didn't really. I think they had 498 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 1: the touchdown and five field goals. The offense was a 499 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: little funky, but Jalen Hurts came out of it seemingly healthy. Um, 500 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: you know, between the injury costing him two weeks and 501 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 1: then not doing much today. He's out of the m 502 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 1: v P conversation, but more importantly, he should be ready 503 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 1: to go in two weeks and the Eagles will be 504 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: as well. Fourteen and three, big season for them. And 505 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about a coach later in this show 506 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: that took pains to explain why he played starters deep 507 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 1: into a contest when there was no desire for that. 508 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: The Giants hung around the Eagles with zero snaps for 509 00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, se Kwan Barkley, Dexter Lawrence Cavon Thibodeaux, Leonard Williams, 510 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: Andrew Thomas, John Fluiciano. I mean they really legit rolled 511 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: out all your backups. They played a two tight end 512 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 1: set basically the whole game preseason so that they wouldn't 513 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: play their top three receivers, so that their top three 514 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: receivers didn't risk getting hurt, which a good move. It's 515 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: amazing they were competitive, but it's also crazy because it's 516 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 1: like the Giants made the playoffs to the point where 517 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: they had to really make sure they protected Isaiah Hodgens 518 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: and Richie James, Like, like the Chargers are out there, 519 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: you know that they can't They say they can't start, 520 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: but like the guys they're protecting are Isaiah Hodgens and 521 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: Richie James, who were lucky to make the team back in. 522 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: That's good coaching. That's good coaching. And the fact that 523 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: they were competitive in this game. I think they'll I 524 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: think they'll be loving that. I think they're feeling good. 525 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: I actually think the Giants kind of entered the playoffs, uh, 526 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,239 Speaker 1: playing better than they played all season. There was one 527 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: absurd moment in this standard. Do you agree the idea? 528 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: Because this you know whether you want to keep it 529 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: close or not. Why show anything that you might use 530 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: down the road. But they attempted that fake field goal 531 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: where Jamie Gillen just the Scottish hammer just got destroyed. 532 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: And it's like, this game came down to six points. 533 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: You could have been you could have a chance to 534 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: be within It's not a big deal. But it wasn't 535 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: actually a close game. It was sixteen nothing at halftime 536 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: and the Giants got a very late score to sep 537 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: An on side kick. But the Eagles kind of controlled 538 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: it the whole time. And Iron Eagle gets credit because 539 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: as soon as that that special team's gaff occurred, he said, oh, 540 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: the Scottish hammer gets nailed, Like that's that's a pro. Um. 541 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the Tennessee Titans later, uh, justin 542 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: so you might want to earmuffs this one. Um. A. J. 543 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: Brown set the Eagles record for receiving passing the great 544 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: uh Mike Quick around yards. He ended up with so 545 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: unbelievable season for him the Eagles. I'm a little noivous 546 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: about the Eagles. I think there it's team that they're 547 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: gonna have to show that they can get back to 548 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: that top gear because it's been a wild nowt since 549 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: we've seen it. But they took care of business, got 550 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,239 Speaker 1: that one seed that I mean, it would have been 551 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: an outright disaster if they lost out the last three 552 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: weeks and didn't get that one seed. They got it. 553 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: Now they get to rest up and there you go. 554 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,959 Speaker 1: This This is kind of the perfect outcome for me personally, 555 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: because I like the I roote, I'm rooting for them. 556 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: I picked them to win the Super Bowl. But I 557 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: do like the consternation in Philly and this result them 558 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: getting the one seed. But everyone's gonna be like so 559 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: anxious for the next couple of weeks, and I don't know, 560 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: I never know what to make Yeah, I do like 561 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: the Philly angst. I enjoy Like I'd never know what 562 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,479 Speaker 1: to make of it. Like when a team kind of 563 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 1: comes to the finish line taken on water after a 564 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: really dominant season just because we've we've done this long enough. 565 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 1: Sometimes like then they lose the first game and everyone's like, 566 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: oh see, like and then sometimes they're nothing late in 567 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: the first quarter in the playoff game and it's like it. 568 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: But sometimes it doesn't, it doesn't matter at all, Like 569 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: the Eagles, for instance, kind of slowed down at the 570 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: end of that full season. I mean, I know it 571 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: was falls coming in there, but they didn't exactly. And 572 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: and I can think of Patriots seasons where they ended 573 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: really poorly in the regular season and then hot in 574 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: the plants and vice versa. Someone's gonna prove you right, 575 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: someone's gonna prove you wrong. Because Philly, Dallas, Minnesota, Tampa, 576 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: San France, outside of San Francisco and Seattle have all 577 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: been full of warts in the last couple of weeks 578 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: are fading and sort of just tripping their way into 579 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Like, please, we're inviting you into the postseason. 580 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: Come through the dorm. It's the new season. You don't 581 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: have to play San Francisco until the championship game at worst. 582 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: So that's the best get avoid the Niners as long 583 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: as you can. Yet, let's stay in the NFC East 584 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: and hit the other game. Because yes, the Cowboys seem 585 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: to be taken on some water too at the wrong time. 586 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: Third and six, stop the Prescott quick throw to the park. 587 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: He's gonna look in pick Sex, touchdown, touchdown once again, 588 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: and once again, Dad Prescott will give you you all 589 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: for too. Really on defense, to take that ball away 590 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: couple fall or visit the first time he had his 591 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: hands all over that. The second time, all right, that's 592 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: uh Brandinstein and Donaldson with the call com down. What's 593 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: going on with you? Greg? I don't don't my note, 594 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: said London Fletcher, And I was like, how we've been 595 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: through this before where it's definitely not London Fletchers. I 596 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: don't know, are you trying to like Ron? It's a 597 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: three person booth. So sometimes I had I got it. 598 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: I had it though before Greg screamed it. I was 599 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: gonna say, Julie Donaldson with the pick six and what 600 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: she's referring to is um dak and the rest of 601 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: the Cowboys were so like shamelessly sloppy in this game 602 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: and unplugged in terms of playing sharp competitive football. That 603 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: literally the play before that he throws kind of a 604 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: lazy path us that Fuller has an easy path to 605 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: for a pick six. Only Fuller slipped and was unable 606 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: to catch the ball, and before the announcers could even 607 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: finish making the point of oh he really blew that. 608 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: Dad does the exact same thing, targeting the exact same 609 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: receiver and the exact same cornerback on the next play. 610 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: This time it's an easy pick six. And it was 611 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: kind of like at that point all she wrote, Washington 612 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: cruises to a twenty six to six win, and uh, 613 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: yeah again, Uh, we got Dallas going to Tampa, the 614 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: eight and nine NFC South champion on Monday night next week. 615 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: And there'll be a favorite in that game. Maybe not 616 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: a big favorite, maybe around three points, I would guess. 617 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: But I don't know how any Cowboy fan, or Mike 618 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 1: McCarthy for that matter, who's gonna be feeling the heat. 619 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: By the way, if they don't, if they go one 620 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: and done, uh can be feeling good about this team? 621 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: How they ended the season. They just something seems off 622 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: mark with the Cowboys. And I'm looking at their recent 623 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: schedule here, Well that tells you the story. Look at 624 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks they play in the last month plus. Yeah, 625 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: you had the terrible loss to the Jaguars. You beat 626 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew, Uh, you beat the Titans Josh Dobbs, Josh Dobbs, 627 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 1: and then you lose to Sam Howell in the Commanders, right, 628 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 1: they barely beat Davis Mills. I mean, they're just not 629 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: all these teams are gonna be able to search this 630 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: entire way, and I it's not all about the Dak 631 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 1: Prescott interceptions. I think like if you take away not 632 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: that you can, but if you take away the turnovers, 633 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 1: not this game stands out as a true mess. But 634 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: he's been pretty great. I think otherwise, it's just that 635 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: this they're not all these pick sixes are not the same. 636 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: The one the stuffy through today was just bad. Right, 637 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: he has been incredibly unlucky. Like, for what it's worth, 638 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 1: his turnover worthy played percentage of PFF, it's been very 639 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,879 Speaker 1: average throughout this season, not good, not bad, but it's 640 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: it's really resulted in a huge amount of interceptions, some 641 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: of which were not his fault. But this time he's 642 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: not playing well. I'm more concerned about the defense. That 643 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 1: was this team's calling card for a while, but now 644 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 1: they're thinnic cornerback defensive tackles clearly a problem. Like they 645 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: haven't been good at the second level in terms of 646 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 1: their linebackers. They're getting smoked by by Sam how who like, 647 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 1: hey kind of look Sam, how how about that? Yeah? 648 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: That was a nice pat. I mean, if you take 649 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: the goball out, his stats are not good, but you 650 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,879 Speaker 1: can't take it out as part of it. Uh, yeah, 651 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: that was that was an encouraging I wouldn't if I'm 652 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: no Commanders, It wouldn't stopped me from being very aggressive 653 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 1: to find a quarterback. But maybe he could be your 654 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: backup next year. Yeah. I think Dak finished with fifteen 655 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 1: interceptions and and what twelve starts or whatever, and was 656 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 1: so bad and it made me think I was wondering 657 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 1: as I'm watching the game because Dallas, um, you know, 658 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,800 Speaker 1: couldn't make any real move once it became clear the 659 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 1: Philadelphia wasn't wasn't gonna lose that game to New York. 660 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 1: That get him out of the game. Get at these 661 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 1: starters of the game. But I think it was one 662 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: of those things where the coaches like, I need to 663 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 1: see I need to have them go out on something positive. 664 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: And they did scool Are a touchdown right before the half, 665 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 1: and in retrospect, maybe that should have been the time 666 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 1: where you pull the trigger. There was just not much 667 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 1: to build off, so you kind of flush this game, 668 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: um and hope that the better version of Dallas shows up. 669 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,399 Speaker 1: Michael Parsons also was kind of limping on and off 670 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: the field throughout this game. He seemed to be banged up. 671 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 1: Not a good day for the Dallas Cowboys. Maybe maybe 672 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 1: the whole scoreboard watching and being distracted and knowing that 673 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,839 Speaker 1: the game you probably didn't matter. Maybe that's a factor. 674 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: He's heard about players talk about that. But they average 675 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 1: two point eight yards per play. They have ten first downs. 676 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: This is one of the worst offensive performances all season. 677 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:41,479 Speaker 1: That's crazy. Feel. Yeah, you're playing a You're gonna play 678 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: a team that's not very good next week in Tampa, 679 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 1: but they're not terrible, and they're gonna be home and 680 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 1: they have Tom Brady. It's like this all feels like 681 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 1: it's building towards something with the Cowboys. I agree, we'll see. 682 00:36:52,719 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 1: I wonder if the favorite. You've told us though, that 683 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 1: the Bucks are winning the game. I have. I have 684 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,760 Speaker 1: mentioned that I said whoever won the on the record 685 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:12,479 Speaker 1: multiple times, multiple times. I do want to mention that 686 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 1: Dan Snyder was reportedly not at this game, uh, which 687 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 1: is strange for the owner's habits. According to The Athletic, 688 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 1: it could be his final game as owner. With that 689 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 1: popping up. A spokesperson for Washington didn't want to comment 690 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 1: on it, but it was reported by the Athletic, which 691 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: is coming in a in a way. Maybe maybe this 692 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,319 Speaker 1: win by Rivera and the ownership situation, maybe that helps 693 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 1: him stay the exact same thing. You know what I'm saying, like, Oh, 694 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 1: we can't clarify what where, where he was or what's 695 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 1: going on there. It's just like, are you the only 696 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,439 Speaker 1: thing out there? I just want to know where telling 697 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 1: the pig was. I don't give it. I don't care 698 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 1: about anything else. I think he that pig probably knows 699 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: he has probably a two game run if there's an 700 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 1: ownership change here and a lot of other changes. And 701 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 1: he's like, most Greg, you were cut off there. I'm 702 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 1: sure you're about to make a t ancient point. No, 703 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: it was just what Rivera must be thinking, which is like, 704 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,439 Speaker 1: is this this is happening again. I guess I'm gonna 705 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 1: keep my job because they're not gonna fire me right 706 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 1: before they leave. But this happened with Jerry Richardson in Carolina. 707 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 1: He had, he had that job, and then the new 708 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 1: owner came the game one year and I was run. 709 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 1: I'd get my wife and maybe some kids and a 710 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 1: couple of grandkids, get out of dodge and just lay 711 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 1: low and hope they just kind of forget about me 712 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,399 Speaker 1: while they're trying to figure out if it's good move. 713 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: That's just the pro tip for Ron Rivera. Let's move 714 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 1: on other playoff NFC seating implications to the Bay Area. 715 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 1: We go bottom, I'm gonna play action and pretty gonna 716 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 1: throw and it is caught by George Kittle again. Kive 717 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:52,360 Speaker 1: him a living on the year too, Dida. George Kittle, 718 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 1: the rubber Bandman is catching the rock for touchdowns this year, 719 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,040 Speaker 1: and this one he rips away from Camboo Grouse a 720 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:04,919 Speaker 1: Hill the rubber Bandman on the old Hate Ashbury before 721 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:08,360 Speaker 1: the game. Here. Yeah, it's going on with some of 722 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 1: these radio broadcasts. Hey, Danny, it sounds like he's blowing 723 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:17,479 Speaker 1: a bone. The rubber Bandman, a guy who we talked 724 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,839 Speaker 1: about him on the podcast like midway through the season. Like, 725 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:24,399 Speaker 1: you know, Kiddle is not really Kittle anymore, and maybe 726 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:25,799 Speaker 1: he's not the same guy who was anymore. But if 727 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 1: hecame a touchdown machine in the second half, and that's 728 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 1: yet another reason to feel very good about San Francisco, 729 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 1: who go into the playoffs on a long winning streak, 730 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 1: lockdown the number two seed with a thirty eight to 731 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:44,400 Speaker 1: thirteen win over a team that is technically the Cardinals, 732 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 1: um so San Francisco, Yes thirteen and four long winning 733 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,360 Speaker 1: streak that they don't get to buy anymore with the 734 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 1: new rules in effect. But they will play at least 735 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 1: one home game and if if something goes crazy with 736 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 1: the number one seed Eagles, maybe the whole way through 737 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 1: the NFC we shall see. I think it's huge they 738 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 1: get Elijah Mitchell bat today, he's barely played off season, 739 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 1: and then you got Deepo Samuel back and you didn't 740 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 1: have to use Christian McCaffrey too much. It was the 741 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,439 Speaker 1: ideal way for a team that did have to win, 742 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 1: but they didn't want to expend all the energy in 743 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,439 Speaker 1: the world. They also didn't want to sweat it out 744 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,879 Speaker 1: like this was the opposite of what the Eagles did, 745 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 1: certainly what the Cowboys did or the Chargers. Uh. This 746 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 1: was perfect. And they've they've given every confidence uh to 747 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,720 Speaker 1: believe they're one of the best teams I know Danny's 748 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 1: power rankings believe so they will be the number one 749 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 1: team going into the playoffs for whatever I mean. I 750 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,760 Speaker 1: like the Bills, I love the Bengals, I love the Chiefs, 751 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,719 Speaker 1: but I think San Francisco just feels like a runaway train. 752 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,280 Speaker 1: At least they have the clearest path to the super 753 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 1: Bowl of any team. Now because we are we all 754 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:53,239 Speaker 1: agreeving on that absolutely to the super Bowl. Now, what's 755 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,759 Speaker 1: the doubt? What's the doubt here? With the time you 756 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 1: think what team is a clearer path in San Francisco, 757 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 1: That's the Eagle. I guess the two of them are equal. 758 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 1: To me, if the forty Niners are in Philly, I 759 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 1: consider the Eagles like a slight favorite, not much, but slight. Yeah, 760 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,879 Speaker 1: but at best, it's a it's a coin flip. I'm 761 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,799 Speaker 1: not worried about the Niners playing an extra game when 762 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 1: it starts with Seattle. They matched up really well with 763 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 1: them both times. And this this game, you look at 764 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 1: the score and you think just another like absolute drubbing, 765 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 1: and ultimately it was down the stretch. But this game 766 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,240 Speaker 1: was fourteen a thirteen with just a couple of seconds 767 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 1: to go in the first half, and there was a 768 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,239 Speaker 1: stretch where for the first time in a while, the 769 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,840 Speaker 1: Niners just went to sleep on offense three straight punts 770 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 1: and pretty couldn't generate anything, and yet they climbed their 771 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,719 Speaker 1: way out of it. This was like not one of 772 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 1: their final performances, and by the end they absolutely destroyed Arizona. 773 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 1: It's like, I don't see another team doing this right 774 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 1: now in the NFC. So I tend to agree with Dan. 775 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,960 Speaker 1: It like with where the Eagles all right now? The 776 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 1: Niners to me are just if you're gonna get Deebo back, 777 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 1: you're gonna get Mitchell back. Purty has not proven to 778 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 1: be anything but completely legitimate. He's out played Jimmy g 779 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 1: and can he fits right in and like he's he's 780 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,440 Speaker 1: worked so well with guys like Kiddle and Brandon a 781 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,759 Speaker 1: youth that I just don't I don't understand who really 782 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 1: would be favored over from this point. I know, maybe 783 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,399 Speaker 1: Philly in Philly, but other than that, UM, I think 784 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 1: they're the best team in the NFC. And the one 785 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,279 Speaker 1: thing we should notice this was J. J. Watts Um 786 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,839 Speaker 1: final game. I tend to believe that, like we're gonna 787 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 1: come September, there's gonna be J. J. Watt On retiring UM. 788 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,440 Speaker 1: But I'm not trying to undo his decision or anything, 789 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 1: but just he is there a part of you that 790 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 1: thinks you could attempt to not in the least, but 791 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:36,719 Speaker 1: just respecting his little stronger with your point. He might 792 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,440 Speaker 1: listen to Sessler and be like, well, he's got a point. No, 793 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,440 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to make him come back. I just 794 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 1: I think that you're looking at someone that's playing about 795 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,800 Speaker 1: as well as he has in ages. He had twelve 796 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 1: and a half sacks and lead the team in pressure 797 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,480 Speaker 1: rate and everything. J J. Watt is not a shelf. 798 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 1: Three time Defensive Player of the Year. He had a 799 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,440 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty and a half sacks in the regular 800 00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:00,280 Speaker 1: season and playoffs in his twelve year career. Here's here's 801 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,319 Speaker 1: something from J. J. Watt after the game. I said, 802 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 1: I wanted to go out playing good ball, and I'm 803 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,319 Speaker 1: playing good ball. I know I still can. I just 804 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 1: choose not to. That's all a great career is he? 805 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 1: If we were you know, the we just finished our 806 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 1: tenth regular season around the NFL here at NFL dot Com, 807 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:27,479 Speaker 1: NFL media, you get it. Um, is he the peak 808 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:31,400 Speaker 1: J J. Watt the best defensive player? Yeah, I mean 809 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 1: i'd say yes, tick over. Some people say Donald, but 810 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,560 Speaker 1: Watted his peak was just so we're talking about like 811 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,480 Speaker 1: the impact on our show. I think like J. J. 812 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:46,239 Speaker 1: Watt just was something that many people seen. Yeah, Supernova, 813 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 1: Bro good call Um. Yeah, and the party thing. It's 814 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,319 Speaker 1: almost I feel like Greggy it's a little under the 815 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 1: radar now or doesn't get enough like the fact that 816 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 1: this guy that was the last pick in the draft 817 00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 1: is coming and is having a kind of a big 818 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,880 Speaker 1: year of them. If you look at his his numbers, 819 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 1: I know he's not at the level of those great 820 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,359 Speaker 1: A f C quarterbacks or Jalen Hurts when he's healthy, 821 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,120 Speaker 1: but he ended up with thirteen touchdowns against I think 822 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,399 Speaker 1: three picks. His passer ratings about one ten or so, 823 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 1: I mean, and that a lot of credits to the 824 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 1: personnel and the coaching staff. But that is this season 825 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 1: we talked about when Garoppolo went out, it was like, 826 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:22,840 Speaker 1: is it kind of over for San Francisco, And it 827 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,799 Speaker 1: kind of seemed like it was. It is not over, 828 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:26,880 Speaker 1: and parties rise has been a big part of Now 829 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,440 Speaker 1: they got better. I mean, today was a perfect example 830 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 1: of a pretty game. Five in completions, three touchdowns, in 831 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:38,880 Speaker 1: almost nine yards per attempt. It's crazy. My my pushback 832 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,399 Speaker 1: with like calling the Eagles certainly I think a coin flip, 833 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:46,359 Speaker 1: if not better if their home is just looking at 834 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,839 Speaker 1: the two rosters, they're both loaded. Looking at the two quarterbacks, 835 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 1: I'll take Philly and I do. Look at the teams 836 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,719 Speaker 1: that San Francisco has played, it's not their fault. Uh. 837 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,360 Speaker 1: They played one really good I guess defense that was 838 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,279 Speaker 1: playing well at the time down the stretch. That was 839 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 1: when they beat the Saints thirteen nothing. That was a 840 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 1: weird game. They were coming off the Mexico game and 841 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,760 Speaker 1: that was supposedly a thing. But they were just playing 842 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 1: a lot of teams that didn't really get in their 843 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,120 Speaker 1: way too much. And maybe Minnesota won't either. If that's 844 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:18,799 Speaker 1: the first UH matchup after Seattle, like that sets up 845 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,840 Speaker 1: as well as possible for them to roll into that 846 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,600 Speaker 1: NFC championship without playing an overly good defense. This haven't 847 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:29,759 Speaker 1: lost since October, and I don't see a weakness ten 848 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 1: game winning streak as the Niners hit the postseason. Uh. 849 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 1: With Seattle Seahawks coming into their building, did outduel David 850 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 1: blow By the way? Bloud did all he could looking 851 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,400 Speaker 1: for that newsletter. That's tough for you to have to 852 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:47,080 Speaker 1: write the newsletter. Leave here. It's a long day. I 853 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 1: don't even you know. You sleep for maybe three or 854 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:50,759 Speaker 1: four hours during this time of year, and you just 855 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 1: keep going. Sure, that's the sacrifices we make. All right, boys, 856 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,560 Speaker 1: let's take a break and then we'll hit the rest 857 00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,440 Speaker 1: of the NFC and then move on to the a 858 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:03,719 Speaker 1: f C. All right, let's finish out these NFC games 859 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,400 Speaker 1: or a trip the Soldier field or the Vikings and 860 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:10,840 Speaker 1: Bears did battle with nothing on the line. Well something 861 00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:15,680 Speaker 1: Cousins under centered play action, straight drop pass to the 862 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:21,040 Speaker 1: end zone, caught, touchdown Adam Feeling. Kirk Cousins throws a 863 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,200 Speaker 1: touchdown to Adam Feeling and per Kirk, it's his twenty 864 00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,920 Speaker 1: nine touchdown this seasons. For Adam Feeling, it's his sixth 865 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:32,759 Speaker 1: receiving touchdown. And that's where those men would end in 866 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:37,200 Speaker 1: terms of their statistical outputting the regular season. Because Kevin 867 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:41,720 Speaker 1: O'Connell pulled many of his starters at the half. UH 868 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,719 Speaker 1: game in hand, a game that didn't mean anything to 869 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,759 Speaker 1: the Vikings who were locked in in their playoff spot. 870 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:51,960 Speaker 1: They went over the Bears. Let's not say that there 871 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 1: was things on the line of the Minnesota Vikings if 872 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,279 Speaker 1: things broke a certain way. They didn't. So they are 873 00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,759 Speaker 1: where they are and they'll get the Giants next week 874 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:03,799 Speaker 1: now Adam Feland had the touchdown. Otherwise kind of a 875 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,520 Speaker 1: ho home game, and the Chicago Bears with the loss. 876 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 1: In addition to the win of the Texans have the 877 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:15,239 Speaker 1: number one overall pick in the NFL draft UH ten 878 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,040 Speaker 1: game Losing streaks have never felt so good in Yeah, 879 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,680 Speaker 1: because you, I mean you, you're so right. It's a 880 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:22,920 Speaker 1: season where wins and losses. You kind of can put 881 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,759 Speaker 1: it aside as a Bears fan because you got the 882 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 1: number one pick, you already have a quarterback you don't 883 00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,280 Speaker 1: want to waste too many more years on his rookie contract. 884 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,279 Speaker 1: But you also go into the off season with a 885 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:36,319 Speaker 1: monstrously large amount of calf space over any other team. 886 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 1: The Falcons are second. And it doesn't mean you go 887 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:39,680 Speaker 1: spend it all, but it's like you have a lot 888 00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,880 Speaker 1: of flexibility. I think you can sell a lot of 889 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 1: free agents on Justin Fields and what you're building, which 890 00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,600 Speaker 1: is a far away We were not here in the summer. 891 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,960 Speaker 1: We were killing this entire organization for essentially about to 892 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,960 Speaker 1: be putting Justin Fields out there with nothing around him, 893 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,440 Speaker 1: and instead, look at it turned out pretty well, and 894 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,040 Speaker 1: you have a guy that is someone different than we 895 00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,040 Speaker 1: thought of a number of months ago. I still don't 896 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,360 Speaker 1: know if they have a coach. Like the defense was bad. 897 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,280 Speaker 1: They did trade the number thirty two picking the draft 898 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,239 Speaker 1: for Chase clay Pool, which was looks like a fiasco. 899 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,680 Speaker 1: That was a weird one that that not looking great. 900 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,880 Speaker 1: They started Nathan Nathan Peterman in a football game and 901 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,400 Speaker 1: the year three, so I just I can't give him 902 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 1: too many flowers. But they did get some breaks. And 903 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:24,160 Speaker 1: George McCaskey, uh, the executive uh, the owner rather uh 904 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:28,160 Speaker 1: was seen toting around a YETI cooler today after the 905 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,719 Speaker 1: game full of ice cream bars and giving them out 906 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,880 Speaker 1: to people. So that's kind of a shout out to 907 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,359 Speaker 1: the old times in the like old Papa Bear. That's 908 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,160 Speaker 1: what he did at the end of the season. Nice season. 909 00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,920 Speaker 1: You know, here's an ice cream bar. I was hoping 910 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,320 Speaker 1: you were telling the truth, like, not joking, because otherwise 911 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,840 Speaker 1: that's kind of an eccentric move that that that is 912 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:48,759 Speaker 1: the truth. All right, Well there you go. Well there 913 00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,439 Speaker 1: was reason to celebrate for the Bears, and um, yeah, 914 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,839 Speaker 1: you you figure that that will be a draft pick 915 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,720 Speaker 1: for sale unless they absolutely fall in love with someone 916 00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,439 Speaker 1: who was not a quarterback. But this is a type 917 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,840 Speaker 1: of they handled this right, and they have their management 918 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,839 Speaker 1: set up right and their draft scouts set up right, 919 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,560 Speaker 1: they could turn this haul into something that changes their 920 00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,560 Speaker 1: organization and makes them a contender in the NFC next year. 921 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,400 Speaker 1: That's they're in a unique situation. One little thing with 922 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,239 Speaker 1: the Vikings because you came out of last week's disaster 923 00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,160 Speaker 1: and no one believes in them. I get it. But 924 00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,840 Speaker 1: Cousins going seventeen for I saw him throwing some heaters 925 00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:25,759 Speaker 1: to like kJ Osborne and stuff. It seems like it 926 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:27,560 Speaker 1: looked pretty good. This is is how you do it, Staley. 927 00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,440 Speaker 1: You rack up fo two yards of offense, twenty eight 928 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,719 Speaker 1: first downs, and you sit everyone by half time. That 929 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:34,759 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna try to revive your exciting about the 930 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,120 Speaker 1: vis It was just like this is like like several 931 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,560 Speaker 1: of the Week eighteen games, these teams that were just 932 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:44,560 Speaker 1: like they were watching the Eagles score and the forty score, 933 00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,080 Speaker 1: I believe, and then once they saw that or that 934 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,480 Speaker 1: the forty nine score rather and then once they saw 935 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:54,320 Speaker 1: and and we're gonna get obviously to the playoff implications 936 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:58,080 Speaker 1: or the games in the upcoming week, but put it 937 00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:01,600 Speaker 1: this way, Vikings fans especially Vikings fans a annoyed um 938 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:05,319 Speaker 1: at me on Twitter. Um, you did go thirteen and four, 939 00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,360 Speaker 1: you got at least one home game, and you could 940 00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,319 Speaker 1: you could say, in a serious manner inside that locker room, 941 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,319 Speaker 1: no one believes in us. So maybe you could take 942 00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,920 Speaker 1: that and do something with you. We'll see, all right, 943 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:21,680 Speaker 1: let's uh, let's move to Atlanta, where the Bucks and 944 00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:25,440 Speaker 1: Falcons did battle in a low stakes affair. Zetias and 945 00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:29,440 Speaker 1: motion from right to left. Here's Ritter looking shoots it 946 00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:34,480 Speaker 1: in soon. I mean what there is for the Atlanta touchdown? 947 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,399 Speaker 1: That's it. I think that that's the first Desmond Ritter 948 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:44,560 Speaker 1: touchdown pass. Oh, it's hope season in Atlanta. Uh for 949 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,880 Speaker 1: the Falcons, who end their season in a positive manner 950 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,160 Speaker 1: with a thirty to seventeen win over the Bucks. The 951 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:55,960 Speaker 1: Bucks clinched the NFC South last week by virtue. It 952 00:50:56,080 --> 00:51:00,000 Speaker 1: was like man by virtue of their victory over the Panthers. Uh. 953 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,359 Speaker 1: So they'll host a playoff game against the Cowboys next week. 954 00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:06,840 Speaker 1: Mark um. But they also finished eight nine on the season, 955 00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:11,680 Speaker 1: by the way, the first ever losing season in Tom 956 00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:14,840 Speaker 1: Brady's career. Yeah, and you know it's so he started 957 00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:19,440 Speaker 1: this game, and they yanked him before halftime and Blaine 958 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,080 Speaker 1: Gabbert came in and was eventually replaced by Kyle Trast. 959 00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,720 Speaker 1: There was no Mike Evans in this game. Tristan Worths 960 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,879 Speaker 1: was was essentially not on the field. Tom Brady, though, 961 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,719 Speaker 1: looked like for a bit furious when they yanked him. 962 00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:32,480 Speaker 1: I thinking, just because of what you just mentioned, it's 963 00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:34,520 Speaker 1: like Tom Brady is not built to sit on the 964 00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,480 Speaker 1: sideline and watch the formation in the birth of his 965 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,840 Speaker 1: first losing season whatever. He had plenty of time to 966 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:41,520 Speaker 1: have a winning season, no doubt, but I mean, just 967 00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,800 Speaker 1: in this situation, he was annoyed. But that what happened 968 00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,759 Speaker 1: was then the game started to tilt in Atlanta's favor, 969 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,440 Speaker 1: and I think that, you know, I don't want to 970 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,160 Speaker 1: overhype the Falcons. They've got a lot to figure out, 971 00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,160 Speaker 1: but again they're the second most capitom in the league. 972 00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if you have a quarterback in Desmond Ritter, 973 00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,600 Speaker 1: but I thought he played his best game by far today, 974 00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,680 Speaker 1: And you do have a wide receiver in Drake London. 975 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,440 Speaker 1: You do have a really interesting running back and Tyler 976 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,040 Speaker 1: Alger who crossed a thousand yards. I mean it's like 977 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,880 Speaker 1: your guy, You're they have some crazy offensive Kie of 978 00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,600 Speaker 1: the Year Canada and himself Tyler out here and there's 979 00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,920 Speaker 1: a thin pool there. But like he's also been want to, 980 00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:18,239 Speaker 1: you know, get him back on the horn, and I I 981 00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:22,640 Speaker 1: hope he's feeling better. But Tyler Algae yere algae here 982 00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:28,799 Speaker 1: is officially your guy. Well but three times like a 983 00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:32,239 Speaker 1: seasonal thing for him. He's you need the sun to 984 00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,160 Speaker 1: come back out. But no, I think there's like there's 985 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,600 Speaker 1: a there's some things to build around in Atlanta. Ridder. 986 00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I just I don't know. At least they 987 00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,759 Speaker 1: didn't wait and not have him play, Like the whole 988 00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,120 Speaker 1: thing that happened with Mariota is weird, but like they 989 00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,319 Speaker 1: needed to see Ridder. I don't think it prevents you 990 00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:50,880 Speaker 1: from making other moves of that position. Necessarily. We're tied 991 00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,720 Speaker 1: when Brady left this game. That's probably partly why Brady 992 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:58,960 Speaker 1: was out there, like points on five possessions. It's I mean, 993 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,960 Speaker 1: it's not like they were dominating that Gabbert came in 994 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:03,719 Speaker 1: and they got like a turnover to take the lead 995 00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:05,400 Speaker 1: for a minute and then they didn't speak. Guys are 996 00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,640 Speaker 1: still hanging around Blaine Gabert. What's up, Bud? Yeah, looking handsome. 997 00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,759 Speaker 1: I mean that was never the problem with Blaine Gabert. No, 998 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,239 Speaker 1: but he had like that, like he's got is kind 999 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,359 Speaker 1: of a beautiful man. He's also perfect haircut for him 1000 00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,359 Speaker 1: at this stage in his life right now. He's also 1001 00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,439 Speaker 1: a hero. We've talked about that on the show, didn't 1002 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,799 Speaker 1: we Him and his three brothers saved us some people 1003 00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:27,560 Speaker 1: from drowning. I saw that. It's nice. And you know 1004 00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,360 Speaker 1: who else did the same thing. Her old friend Peyton 1005 00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:35,040 Speaker 1: hillis former Brown's Russia who unfortunately you know, he put 1006 00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,600 Speaker 1: him in the hospital, but he he saved some children 1007 00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,919 Speaker 1: in the sea, his own, his own children. And we hope, 1008 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,359 Speaker 1: I hope the best for Peyton hillis um and his 1009 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,840 Speaker 1: recovery on that end. Um, all right, let's move to 1010 00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:51,279 Speaker 1: uh Nolans. See Greg went. They had a bunch of 1011 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:57,000 Speaker 1: people from the University of Georgia right before we alumni 1012 00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:00,640 Speaker 1: before we started the show today, Um, and it was 1013 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,600 Speaker 1: a party. We got Georgia playing TCU for the national 1014 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:07,200 Speaker 1: championship on Monday in the across the sidewalk. This is 1015 00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:08,960 Speaker 1: part of the probably the package that they paid for 1016 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:10,759 Speaker 1: to come, you know, and part of the job is 1017 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,080 Speaker 1: and this is not not a critique of the company. 1018 00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,640 Speaker 1: It's very nice to do these tours. But where we 1019 00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,800 Speaker 1: each sit, which is along against a very long glass 1020 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,480 Speaker 1: wall with the big hallway where anyone being kind of 1021 00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,600 Speaker 1: taken through dog and pony through the building is standing 1022 00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:29,080 Speaker 1: there always they just gather and stare at us and 1023 00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,879 Speaker 1: my I faced them directly where it's like I'm sitting 1024 00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:36,520 Speaker 1: there eating like a piece of it's happen. I have 1025 00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:40,840 Speaker 1: the worst seat in the entire Look at all the 1026 00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:44,200 Speaker 1: easy Yankees and like working on a Sunday that's not 1027 00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,839 Speaker 1: against the guys, sir, they're looking at what I'm looking 1028 00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,120 Speaker 1: at online. I don't need that, Like I mean, it's fine, 1029 00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:50,799 Speaker 1: it's just work stuff. But it's like I'm not a 1030 00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,480 Speaker 1: I'm not you know, here for your observation, but yes 1031 00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,400 Speaker 1: i am. Mark bring this up. I would say to 1032 00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:57,759 Speaker 1: three times a week, and I never get tired hearing 1033 00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:02,080 Speaker 1: because they diver time taking it like it exasperates him 1034 00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,400 Speaker 1: anew every time, or it's like a middle school football 1035 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,200 Speaker 1: team coming through. I'm glad that they're here, but it's 1036 00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,440 Speaker 1: like they're staring at me like I didn't It's eight 1037 00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:09,680 Speaker 1: in the morning. I don't want to be looked at, 1038 00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,799 Speaker 1: you know, to nation. I got the vapors looking at 1039 00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:16,239 Speaker 1: this big facility. Go ja, Well they came right at 1040 00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,600 Speaker 1: the past the studio here. You know. Greg's shaking his head. 1041 00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,360 Speaker 1: He's like, I, actually, you know what to school in 1042 00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,160 Speaker 1: the South. Southern culture is. But I've watched a lot 1043 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:28,200 Speaker 1: of TV, Greg, I know what true Southern culture is. 1044 00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,560 Speaker 1: I got the vapors. All right, let's go. That's how 1045 00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,960 Speaker 1: they all spent. Well we got anything else? The Saints? 1046 00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:42,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, did we play the highlight? Swings, the legs, 1047 00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:48,399 Speaker 1: the kickings up? It is good. What's it for Carolina 1048 00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:52,880 Speaker 1: to end this season in New Orleans? There you go, Greg, 1049 00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:56,480 Speaker 1: Eddie Paniero at the kick at the gun? Sam Donald 1050 00:55:56,600 --> 00:56:01,040 Speaker 1: leads the Panthers, right Greg, to ten to seven win 1051 00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:05,520 Speaker 1: over the Saints at the Superdome Bowl. Teams finished seven 1052 00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:08,759 Speaker 1: and ten. That's perfect. It's not how you start, Danny, 1053 00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:12,160 Speaker 1: it's how you finished. That's the story of Sam Donald's career. Yes, 1054 00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,200 Speaker 1: he only finished five or fifteen for forty three yards 1055 00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:19,040 Speaker 1: and two interceptions, a quarterback rating of two point eight. 1056 00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:23,080 Speaker 1: But it was Sam Donald who ran for a first 1057 00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,960 Speaker 1: down and then connected with Terrace Marshall for twenty one 1058 00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,640 Speaker 1: yards on that final drive, and you know what that did. 1059 00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,719 Speaker 1: That saved me from watching overtime of this dreadful game. 1060 00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:36,200 Speaker 1: A huge favor to all of America and beyond. So, yeah, 1061 00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:39,720 Speaker 1: the big storylines here that winning streak for the Saints 1062 00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:43,000 Speaker 1: ends at three games. We'll see you with Dennis Allen's 1063 00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,359 Speaker 1: future is Steve Wilkes the same as well? A lot 1064 00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:49,400 Speaker 1: of coach questions after the season ends for both teams. 1065 00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:54,000 Speaker 1: Jim Trotter, our NFL Network reporter, was very curious why 1066 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,920 Speaker 1: David Tepper, the owner of the Panthers, wasn't at this 1067 00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:01,880 Speaker 1: game kind of talking about what Steve Wilkes as chances 1068 00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,719 Speaker 1: are to keep that job or not. There's been, you know, 1069 00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:08,959 Speaker 1: confirmation that Temper and Jim Harbaugh spoke about the job, 1070 00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,879 Speaker 1: about the head coaching job. Wilkes did finish six and six, 1071 00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:13,919 Speaker 1: and this was kind of a kind of a game. 1072 00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,120 Speaker 1: Why I like Steve Wilkes as a head coach more 1073 00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,480 Speaker 1: than Dennis Allen. There was no business for the scenes 1074 00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,320 Speaker 1: to win this game. They could not have lose this game, rather, 1075 00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,120 Speaker 1: could not have dominated anymore for the first two or 1076 00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,240 Speaker 1: and a half quarters, but just saying, just kept making 1077 00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,160 Speaker 1: dumb mistakes, and the Panthers came out a halftime at 1078 00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,960 Speaker 1: least trying their best in to the point you were 1079 00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,920 Speaker 1: saying about Harbaugh and kind of awkward. Uh news reporting 1080 00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:42,600 Speaker 1: from Jonathan Jones of CBFL on CBS. UH. He tweeted 1081 00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,440 Speaker 1: this morning, the Panthers spoke with Jim Harbaugh recently, but 1082 00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:49,040 Speaker 1: only after a good deal of persistence on Harbaugh's side. 1083 00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:53,960 Speaker 1: Carolina plans to focus its efforts elsewhere. So whatever whatever 1084 00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:58,560 Speaker 1: Jim is telling Michigan and their alumni about, Oh yeah, 1085 00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,440 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not looking to leave. According to the 1086 00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:06,080 Speaker 1: CBS reporting here, he was very thirsty for the Panthers 1087 00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:08,720 Speaker 1: to take him seriously as a candidate, and yet they had. 1088 00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:10,439 Speaker 1: You did this a year ago and got a raise, 1089 00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,240 Speaker 1: So I think it's um, you know, with those college 1090 00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,440 Speaker 1: coaching contracts, maybe just turn that into more money. M 1091 00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,840 Speaker 1: well done. Who are the Did Georgia defeat Michigan in 1092 00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:29,000 Speaker 1: the semifinal? They did? They ended. I literally watched four 1093 00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:33,480 Speaker 1: minutes of college football season, so Idigan. I kind of 1094 00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,360 Speaker 1: like Carbo, but I liked seeing him in pain to 1095 00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:40,200 Speaker 1: the fun game. Oh those Yankees watching football on Sunday, 1096 00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:43,400 Speaker 1: I like it on Screw Drew was a big Michigan 1097 00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,919 Speaker 1: fan back here. He was pretty devastated at the TC 1098 00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:50,680 Speaker 1: beat them nine foot seven, Drew Drew any comments, Yeah 1099 00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:53,200 Speaker 1: good look with all right, there you go. So that's 1100 00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:55,920 Speaker 1: the NFC. Now let's move to the a f C 1101 00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:59,800 Speaker 1: and that playoff picture. Um starting where we have to, 1102 00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:04,080 Speaker 1: of course, in Western New York after the you know, 1103 00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:07,480 Speaker 1: really horrifying incident that happens Monday night in Cincinnati that 1104 00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:12,080 Speaker 1: leads all sorts of different changes and throws everything up 1105 00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:13,920 Speaker 1: in the air in terms of the playoffs and how 1106 00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:17,240 Speaker 1: the seatings will be handled. Well, the Bills still how 1107 00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,440 Speaker 1: to take care of business, go back on the field 1108 00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,439 Speaker 1: and try to get back to being a super Bowl team. 1109 00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,200 Speaker 1: And the good news, of course, by the way, Damarrow 1110 00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:28,720 Speaker 1: hamlin Um continues to make progress in contact with his team, 1111 00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:33,120 Speaker 1: now speaking tweeting it's it couldn't be better all, all 1112 00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:36,640 Speaker 1: of his mental functions are totally their tremendous news compared 1113 00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:38,960 Speaker 1: to what it was like even seventy two hours ago. 1114 00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,200 Speaker 1: So great news. And now the Buffalo Bills, filled with 1115 00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:45,080 Speaker 1: hope and spirit, look to finish off their regular season 1116 00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:49,840 Speaker 1: schedule and get the Patriots out of the playoffs. Tortured, 1117 00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,680 Speaker 1: Park puts his foot into the call. It's gonna be 1118 00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,640 Speaker 1: short fielding at the four by highs, coming straight up 1119 00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,320 Speaker 1: the middle to the twenty, cuts it back in. He's 1120 00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:00,160 Speaker 1: got an alley down the right side, loot of the 1121 01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:05,440 Speaker 1: forty fifty down to the forty thirty five thirty fifty 1122 01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:12,400 Speaker 1: trade five touch nine. He hides ninety six yards. Run, 1123 01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:16,160 Speaker 1: run as fast as you can. You're not catching Hines. 1124 01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:20,440 Speaker 1: He's your rents owe Man buffalo on the board with 1125 01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:26,200 Speaker 1: the first play from scrimmage. You can't make it up. 1126 01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,720 Speaker 1: You cannot make it up. But well, you know what 1127 01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:34,600 Speaker 1: sequel that's not even it hit it Nick Folk kicking 1128 01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:36,800 Speaker 1: it off now, Hines takes it a yard deep in 1129 01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:38,720 Speaker 1: the end Zone'm gonna bring it out out to the 1130 01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,919 Speaker 1: ten to the fifteen, up over the twenty thirty, gets 1131 01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,840 Speaker 1: away with the tackle of thirty forty forty five fifty. 1132 01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:48,959 Speaker 1: Then not gonna get him. He's going for another one 1133 01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:56,280 Speaker 1: one hundred and two yards. And there was a third one. No, 1134 01:00:56,520 --> 01:01:00,880 Speaker 1: just kidding, it was just just quote unquote to kickoff 1135 01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:05,960 Speaker 1: returns for touchdown from the hem Heinz including obviously the 1136 01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:10,560 Speaker 1: first play since everything that went down Monday night in Cincinnati. 1137 01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:14,439 Speaker 1: The mar Hamlin himself tweeted out in the moment after 1138 01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:17,960 Speaker 1: the opening kickoff, O m f G. If you don't 1139 01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:20,720 Speaker 1: know what that means, look it up. It was those 1140 01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:24,440 Speaker 1: two kickoff returns by Hims that were really the difference 1141 01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:28,200 Speaker 1: for the Bills, who did not have their a game defensively, 1142 01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:32,520 Speaker 1: but the special teams excellence compared with combined with some 1143 01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:35,720 Speaker 1: Josh Allen magic, was enough for a thirty three win 1144 01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:40,760 Speaker 1: over UH. The Patriots. Patriots go home eliminated with the loss, 1145 01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:44,880 Speaker 1: and the Bills Mark Sessler UH finished thirteen and three, 1146 01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:47,480 Speaker 1: which isn't good enough UH to win the a f 1147 01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:50,240 Speaker 1: C number one seed, but what a hell of a 1148 01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,600 Speaker 1: way to kind of get back on the field after 1149 01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,840 Speaker 1: everything that transpired in the last week. And no team 1150 01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:58,320 Speaker 1: in the league has been room war and UH, you 1151 01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:01,960 Speaker 1: know it happened obviously instantaneously at the start of all 1152 01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:03,720 Speaker 1: these games. And I was sitting with Greg and I 1153 01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:06,200 Speaker 1: just thought to myself and said out loud, like, what 1154 01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:08,360 Speaker 1: on how on earth can a games start this way? 1155 01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:11,160 Speaker 1: And I just think the one thing that is, I mean, 1156 01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:13,000 Speaker 1: this whole journey that we've been on over the past 1157 01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:14,480 Speaker 1: week that the Bills have been on, that every one 1158 01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:17,280 Speaker 1: of those players and players around the league to I 1159 01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:19,440 Speaker 1: just got the sense that someone was kind of chosen, 1160 01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,800 Speaker 1: um amongst all of this to send a message right 1161 01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:24,640 Speaker 1: away that things were gonna be all right for this 1162 01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:26,920 Speaker 1: Bills team. And I mean Nike Hims, who they traded for, 1163 01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:29,440 Speaker 1: has been a bit player his whole career, always here 1164 01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:31,720 Speaker 1: about like, well, we want to get Hines more involved 1165 01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:33,280 Speaker 1: in the Colts offense back in the day, and the 1166 01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:35,600 Speaker 1: Bills got him for a certain reason, and now it's 1167 01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:39,160 Speaker 1: like the reason and the role he's played is utterly 1168 01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:41,800 Speaker 1: irreplaceable in Bill's history forever. I mean, it's just very 1169 01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:45,360 Speaker 1: special thing where sometimes the way sports work, it's like 1170 01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:48,400 Speaker 1: the least obvious character is just pulled out of the 1171 01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:51,160 Speaker 1: fray and chosen to do something that isn't leaves an 1172 01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:54,000 Speaker 1: indelible mark, And that's what happened here. From Josh Allen, 1173 01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:56,480 Speaker 1: who like you mark, you put it very well there. 1174 01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:59,720 Speaker 1: It almost felt like there was more at play the 1175 01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:02,920 Speaker 1: way this game started, and really the entire tone in 1176 01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:07,800 Speaker 1: Western New York today, I can't remember a play that 1177 01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:12,080 Speaker 1: touched me like that, and I don't think in my life, 1178 01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:18,080 Speaker 1: so it's it's probably number one. It was. It was 1179 01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:20,240 Speaker 1: just spiritual and I just I was going around and 1180 01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:24,560 Speaker 1: I just something. I was going around. My twom is saying, 1181 01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:28,200 Speaker 1: God's real, like, you can't you can't draw that one 1182 01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:31,040 Speaker 1: up right? That one up any better? Um? And I 1183 01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:33,080 Speaker 1: was just told by Kevin Curran it's been three years 1184 01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:42,360 Speaker 1: and three months since the last kickoff return. So pretty cool. 1185 01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:46,680 Speaker 1: Greg Tomorrow Hamlin of course number three, uh. Whereas for 1186 01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:49,920 Speaker 1: the Bills, and three was everywhere across the NFL, including 1187 01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:51,919 Speaker 1: on the hats of all the Bills players. I thought 1188 01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:55,480 Speaker 1: of Steve Gleason's punt return black for the Saints immediately, 1189 01:03:55,760 --> 01:04:00,320 Speaker 1: and totally different situations, of course, in in many different ways, 1190 01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:04,920 Speaker 1: but a play that when I saw it, you knew 1191 01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:08,400 Speaker 1: how special it was. Now we're almost twenty years we're 1192 01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:11,160 Speaker 1: twenty years later, and we still talk about that play. 1193 01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:15,240 Speaker 1: And when this kickoff return happened, I just thought, we're 1194 01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:17,880 Speaker 1: gonna be talking about this play in twenty years too. 1195 01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:22,720 Speaker 1: And I new York and them, and the thing is, 1196 01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:25,960 Speaker 1: I think it's really important for the Bills football team 1197 01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:28,640 Speaker 1: in their quest to go win a super Bowl, which 1198 01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:33,760 Speaker 1: is part of this whole um conversation that we're going 1199 01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:36,960 Speaker 1: to have about them moving forward to have that moment 1200 01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:40,880 Speaker 1: here today too, then play the rest of this game out, 1201 01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:44,160 Speaker 1: a game in which they were in trouble in trailing 1202 01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:46,440 Speaker 1: at one point in the second half, and kind of 1203 01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:50,480 Speaker 1: get through today and get that win and set up 1204 01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:53,200 Speaker 1: that we don't have to have a Bill's Chiefs a 1205 01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:56,200 Speaker 1: f C championship um or if we have a Bill's 1206 01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:58,640 Speaker 1: Chiefs a f C championship, that's gonna be at a 1207 01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:01,280 Speaker 1: neutral site. And I think not that they're gonna put 1208 01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:05,040 Speaker 1: anything past what happened with Damar Hamlin, Like they were 1209 01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:06,640 Speaker 1: face timing with him, and he's now going to be 1210 01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:09,120 Speaker 1: a presence, I think, in their lives and talking. But 1211 01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:11,439 Speaker 1: he's getting better and better every week. And I think 1212 01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:15,000 Speaker 1: to be able to handle the emotions as a football 1213 01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:18,040 Speaker 1: team of like, okay, this all happened, and and then 1214 01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:19,800 Speaker 1: you gotta go play a game and it didn't really 1215 01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:21,720 Speaker 1: go that well for a lot of the game, but 1216 01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,080 Speaker 1: then to come out on top in the end and 1217 01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:27,400 Speaker 1: then start now to look forward to what their playoff 1218 01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:29,240 Speaker 1: matchup is going to be. I also think that's big 1219 01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:31,840 Speaker 1: you know, just for for everyone to start to move 1220 01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:34,440 Speaker 1: forward of what they they're going to do and and 1221 01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:36,280 Speaker 1: and attack the rest of the season. It was an 1222 01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:39,400 Speaker 1: example of it was another game where Josh Allen, um, 1223 01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:41,240 Speaker 1: you know, up until he started to make some big 1224 01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:44,360 Speaker 1: throws down the stretch. They just their offense has looked 1225 01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:49,040 Speaker 1: somewhat suspect um in recent weeks. Uh, Stefon Diggs had 1226 01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:51,320 Speaker 1: a big catch that maybe uncoortdom I thought, where is 1227 01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:54,200 Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs? I think that was one of those Josh 1228 01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:57,000 Speaker 1: Allen throws that maybe, But I also feel like the 1229 01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:59,760 Speaker 1: particulars of this game, just what you were just saying, 1230 01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:01,920 Speaker 1: it's a this is a bit of a week of 1231 01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:04,080 Speaker 1: fugazzy week a team for a lot of different teams 1232 01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:05,840 Speaker 1: for a lot of different reasons. The Bills just needed 1233 01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:09,640 Speaker 1: to survive and have this happened in front of their 1234 01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:11,960 Speaker 1: fans at home, and for that reason, I think it's 1235 01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:15,280 Speaker 1: a very special kind of checkpoint for them, um and 1236 01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:17,800 Speaker 1: had to happen way it did today. Yeah, and Tony 1237 01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:20,360 Speaker 1: Romo calling the game with nance, and they also had 1238 01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:23,200 Speaker 1: great calls of those two plays. Uh we heard from 1239 01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:26,680 Speaker 1: Bill's radio there. But obviously that was some special stuff. 1240 01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:30,000 Speaker 1: Um he said, Romo said, And Romo's you know, he 1241 01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:34,440 Speaker 1: knows quarterbacks like nobody else. I keep thinking aback about too. Uh, 1242 01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:36,720 Speaker 1: he knew before anyone else. He's like, oh, Mike White 1243 01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:39,720 Speaker 1: doesn't He's not just injured. He has multiple broken ribs, 1244 01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:41,680 Speaker 1: and then we find out weeks later he's got five 1245 01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:44,439 Speaker 1: broken whips. He's watching Josh Josh Allen the last few 1246 01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:46,840 Speaker 1: weeks and saying he's he's not the same. He's not 1247 01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:48,640 Speaker 1: the same. He's not thrown it the same way. And 1248 01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:51,080 Speaker 1: he said today, like in the last ten days is 1249 01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:54,240 Speaker 1: the number he put on it. He sees Alan throwing 1250 01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:56,520 Speaker 1: the ball now the way he did before the elbow 1251 01:06:56,560 --> 01:07:00,400 Speaker 1: injury back in October. And that throw today, EIGs was 1252 01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:02,520 Speaker 1: the type of throws like, oh okay, all right. That's 1253 01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:04,640 Speaker 1: so that's important for the Bills obviously that you get 1254 01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:08,200 Speaker 1: peek out. He did have another red zone uh turnover, 1255 01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:10,560 Speaker 1: which has been an issue all season. But man, you 1256 01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:13,000 Speaker 1: just you just you try not to put too much 1257 01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:16,720 Speaker 1: into it and the mystical stuff and all everything like that. 1258 01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:19,960 Speaker 1: Although I respect, you know, Josh Allen bringing the spirit 1259 01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:23,480 Speaker 1: spirituality into it. Um Man, the bill is gonna get 1260 01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:26,560 Speaker 1: stopped this year. You just feel like there's something really 1261 01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:29,840 Speaker 1: magical brewing with this season, in this organization that's waited 1262 01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:33,600 Speaker 1: so long to get to the mountaintop. And on on 1263 01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:35,560 Speaker 1: the New England side of things, because we should cover 1264 01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:39,600 Speaker 1: the Pats because their season is over. Um, really, I 1265 01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:41,760 Speaker 1: gotta give him credit, to be honest with you, it 1266 01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:44,800 Speaker 1: was sloppy and that's what and that's gonna be something 1267 01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:49,600 Speaker 1: we remember about this season. Uncharacteristic, uh misques they had 1268 01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:53,400 Speaker 1: obviously the two massive special teams Gaffs mac Jones threw 1269 01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:55,560 Speaker 1: a bunch of picks late in the game and one 1270 01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:58,080 Speaker 1: when the game was very much in the balance in 1271 01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:01,320 Speaker 1: the red zone himself. Uh. But after giving up that 1272 01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:04,040 Speaker 1: kickoff return to start the game, their ability to calm 1273 01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:07,280 Speaker 1: things down in that building, gets to halftime at fourteen fourteen, 1274 01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:10,040 Speaker 1: take the lead before their special teams blew it for 1275 01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:14,200 Speaker 1: him again. Greg. A very uncharacteristic New England season. Uh. 1276 01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:16,720 Speaker 1: Frustrating way for it to end, but kind of on 1277 01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:18,240 Speaker 1: brand in a lot of ways the way it all 1278 01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:21,639 Speaker 1: played out. Right, They to me are a different team 1279 01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:23,920 Speaker 1: obviously since Brady has been gone and and they've been 1280 01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:26,720 Speaker 1: very This was a very characteristic season to me of 1281 01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:29,679 Speaker 1: the last three they've been a consistent at this level. 1282 01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:31,639 Speaker 1: Though the slopping this like it this left this felt 1283 01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:36,479 Speaker 1: like a little beyonds like quarterback melting down the sideline edge. 1284 01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:39,360 Speaker 1: They were slopping in a different way. Absolutely offensively, I 1285 01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:41,840 Speaker 1: think they were one of the most poorly coached, you know, 1286 01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:44,600 Speaker 1: sides of the football I've ever seen out of the Patriots, 1287 01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:45,920 Speaker 1: but just in terms of being like kind of the 1288 01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:48,160 Speaker 1: middle of the road team that that does find ways 1289 01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:51,400 Speaker 1: to lose games, that often does have mental mistakes, this 1290 01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:53,400 Speaker 1: time it was special team. So you just kind of 1291 01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:56,120 Speaker 1: don't know which side is going to pop up here. 1292 01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:58,280 Speaker 1: Their defense was playing much better at the end of 1293 01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:01,120 Speaker 1: this season, uh than they had the last couple of years, 1294 01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:03,519 Speaker 1: certainly compared to last year. I think the defense would 1295 01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:05,680 Speaker 1: have been ready to go on a long playoff run 1296 01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:08,439 Speaker 1: if they had a good offense overall, and they showed 1297 01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:10,320 Speaker 1: something there today. But it was a bit of a 1298 01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:13,280 Speaker 1: end of an era here, I think too. That was 1299 01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:15,280 Speaker 1: I think the last we're gonna see a Devin mccordy. 1300 01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:20,320 Speaker 1: It really looks like he and and Matthew Slater as well, 1301 01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:24,479 Speaker 1: so uh as a as a Patriots fan Slater. Uh, 1302 01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:26,479 Speaker 1: it's hard to see him go out on this special 1303 01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:28,640 Speaker 1: teams guy. Maybe I'll like, if there ever was a 1304 01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:30,519 Speaker 1: Special Team's Hall of Famer, he would be. I don't 1305 01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:32,160 Speaker 1: think we'll get in with that. But he says he 1306 01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:34,479 Speaker 1: was shell shocked after the games. It sounds like that'll 1307 01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:37,720 Speaker 1: be it for him. It has got to agitate Bill 1308 01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:41,320 Speaker 1: Belichick to no end. That they came into this game 1309 01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:44,240 Speaker 1: with the twenty nine ranked waited d v O A 1310 01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:47,560 Speaker 1: special teams units, So I'm sure it dipped. Uh is 1311 01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:50,479 Speaker 1: it couldn't go much lower, but it obviously did. And 1312 01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:52,519 Speaker 1: that I mean Bill Belichick is the coach we think 1313 01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:55,040 Speaker 1: of who on these Friday press conferences will go on 1314 01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:58,519 Speaker 1: a fourteen minute long soliloquy about special teams play when 1315 01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:01,280 Speaker 1: everyone else mostly ignores it. So this was an there here. 1316 01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:03,479 Speaker 1: There are elements of this that feel UNBELI check in. 1317 01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:05,240 Speaker 1: I think there's obviously gonna be a change on the 1318 01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:07,760 Speaker 1: offensive coaching staff. Um, if you want to keep Mac 1319 01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:09,840 Speaker 1: Jones around, which at this point, you know I said 1320 01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:12,760 Speaker 1: last week that I'm not sure I would assume that 1321 01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:15,040 Speaker 1: would happen, But what other options do you have? It's 1322 01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:16,560 Speaker 1: like get a better off o c in there, and 1323 01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:18,040 Speaker 1: I think you can get Mac Jones back. I think 1324 01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:20,799 Speaker 1: it would be a mistake to make a rash decision 1325 01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:22,760 Speaker 1: at the quarterback. We're gonna get into that, but I thought, 1326 01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:24,639 Speaker 1: at one point in this game, just give you an 1327 01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:27,599 Speaker 1: example Mac Jones. And the evaluation is tough because things 1328 01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:29,360 Speaker 1: were so messy in New England. One point in this 1329 01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:31,760 Speaker 1: game he was in their three touchdown drives, their first 1330 01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:34,680 Speaker 1: three touchdown draws. He was seventeen for seventeen for a 1331 01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:37,559 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy yards and three touchdowns. Like, there's there's 1332 01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:40,920 Speaker 1: a potentially a decent, too good quarterback there. And I 1333 01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:42,759 Speaker 1: don't know if you kick him out the door after 1334 01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:45,479 Speaker 1: this season. Uh, And we'll see, Greg. I know you've been, 1335 01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:48,919 Speaker 1: you know, talking a little bit about what happens with Belichick, 1336 01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:52,880 Speaker 1: if he's getting pressure from upstairs about how the changes 1337 01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:55,120 Speaker 1: need to be made. We know changes need to be 1338 01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:57,000 Speaker 1: made in New England. I think it'll be a radio 1339 01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:59,639 Speaker 1: a silence for a while, but I still wouldn't I'm 1340 01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:01,840 Speaker 1: very curious to see what the outcome is of what 1341 01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:04,720 Speaker 1: Bill Bill. I mean that all time wins record is 1342 01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:08,720 Speaker 1: in you know, target team. If he wants. Guess I 1343 01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:11,400 Speaker 1: feel it be strange to throw him somewhere else. But 1344 01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:13,120 Speaker 1: and as we said at the top of the show, 1345 01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:17,000 Speaker 1: it will be the Miami Dolphins traveling to Buffalo in 1346 01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:20,439 Speaker 1: the wild Card playoffs next week. Let's move to another 1347 01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:25,120 Speaker 1: team that's dancing, the Miami Dolphins. Hey, sometimes the dance 1348 01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:29,639 Speaker 1: isn't pretty. Sometimes sometimes it's an ugly dance. But it's 1349 01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:32,759 Speaker 1: all right. You're dancing nonetheless, dance like no one's watching. 1350 01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:34,360 Speaker 1: Is that the thing? I mean? It's always an ugly 1351 01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:36,640 Speaker 1: dance that I'm involved personally, right, I can think of 1352 01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:39,000 Speaker 1: some nights at the Lost and Found where we'd probably 1353 01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:41,880 Speaker 1: dance not looking too pretty. Okay, let's get to the game. 1354 01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:46,639 Speaker 1: A win here, it up, Bill's win the playoffs. It's 1355 01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:51,160 Speaker 1: up and it is good. Wow, bigkets kicking a year 1356 01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:56,240 Speaker 1: for Jason Sanders when he comes with eighteen seconds left. 1357 01:11:56,640 --> 01:12:00,000 Speaker 1: The Dolphins lead at Mine to six. But a big 1358 01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:05,040 Speaker 1: kick for Jason Sanders. It was a big kick for 1359 01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:08,360 Speaker 1: Jason Sanders in a game that was all kicking. It 1360 01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:10,760 Speaker 1: was a game that had five field goals. And that's it. 1361 01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:15,080 Speaker 1: I tweeted, you know that old that community, uh, Donald 1362 01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:18,840 Speaker 1: Glover scene that's become kind of an iconic gift where 1363 01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:20,920 Speaker 1: he swings the apartment door open with the pizzas with 1364 01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:22,639 Speaker 1: a big smile on his face, and all of a sudden, 1365 01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:24,920 Speaker 1: since he's been gone to pick up the pizza, the 1366 01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:27,760 Speaker 1: entire apartment is destroyed. Someone's been shot on the floor, 1367 01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:31,000 Speaker 1: there's a fire. That's how I imagine Jets and Dolphins 1368 01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:34,920 Speaker 1: fans if you were like locked away around let's say Thanksgiving, 1369 01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:37,640 Speaker 1: and then you saw what was going on today in 1370 01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:41,479 Speaker 1: week eighteen. Really gnarly stuff, but the Dolphins credit them 1371 01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:44,400 Speaker 1: for getting it done. With their third string quarterback, they 1372 01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:47,160 Speaker 1: find a way nine six, their defense becomes the latest 1373 01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:52,040 Speaker 1: defense to shut down a moribund New York attack, and um, 1374 01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:54,599 Speaker 1: the five game losing streak for the Dolphins is gone. 1375 01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:58,120 Speaker 1: They finished over five hundred. They calmed things down, and yes, 1376 01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:01,280 Speaker 1: like I said, they'll be playing the Bills next week, 1377 01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:04,720 Speaker 1: so listen. Sometimes the dance is ugly, but you get 1378 01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:08,040 Speaker 1: into the dance anyway. I was texted during this game 1379 01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:11,640 Speaker 1: with our friend Henry Hodgson, and we're talking about it 1380 01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:15,479 Speaker 1: feels like a preseason game, and he seemed ambivalent over 1381 01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:18,519 Speaker 1: whether his beloved Dolphins would make the playoffs or not. 1382 01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:21,600 Speaker 1: The crowd felt a little ambivalent, like they tried to 1383 01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:24,320 Speaker 1: get going at points today. And it was crazy because 1384 01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:27,439 Speaker 1: this game meant so much. I I was thinking the 1385 01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:31,040 Speaker 1: Patriots will probably lose, so this is essentially a playoff game. 1386 01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:34,839 Speaker 1: The whole season has been leading to this. But meanwhile, 1387 01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:38,200 Speaker 1: in one TV it's like you see the Bills game 1388 01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:41,759 Speaker 1: and it's like, wow, sports can be so crazy, almost 1389 01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:45,840 Speaker 1: impossibly powerful and strange moments in a game like that, 1390 01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:48,160 Speaker 1: And then you can be watching Skyler Thompson and Joe 1391 01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:51,320 Speaker 1: Flacco and trading field goals and like everyone trying to 1392 01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:55,200 Speaker 1: convince themselves this matter. In Week eighteen, like as is 1393 01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:58,360 Speaker 1: the way, or Week seventeen in past years, you'll have 1394 01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:00,280 Speaker 1: a bunch of games that kind of feel like games 1395 01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,280 Speaker 1: because guys are already like thinking about their trip to 1396 01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:04,920 Speaker 1: Cancoon next week. That wasn't the case here. You could 1397 01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:06,679 Speaker 1: tell on both sides of the ball the teams were 1398 01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:09,720 Speaker 1: putting in effort. There was just a real struggle to 1399 01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:12,880 Speaker 1: move the football in any type of efficient way. And 1400 01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:15,439 Speaker 1: of course these teams are both so beat up. Both 1401 01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:18,280 Speaker 1: sides were including at the quarterback position, that this isn't 1402 01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:22,280 Speaker 1: totally stunning battle lines, bad quarterback play. Those two things 1403 01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:25,120 Speaker 1: the to the Dolphins credit. One of the differences in 1404 01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:29,320 Speaker 1: the game, other than a huge Quincy william Quincy Williams 1405 01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:32,439 Speaker 1: horse collar tackle that kind of pushed Miami into field 1406 01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:35,360 Speaker 1: goal range before the kick was made, was their ability 1407 01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:36,840 Speaker 1: to run the ball. They were the only team that 1408 01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:40,679 Speaker 1: could actually do something, uh, which is rushed the ball. 1409 01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:43,320 Speaker 1: Neither team could throw and mark. Like I talked about 1410 01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:47,160 Speaker 1: it back in shoot, it was probably Week five when 1411 01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:50,360 Speaker 1: the Jets lost Breeze Hall and Elijah vera talker on 1412 01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:52,600 Speaker 1: the same day, and I was devastated that day. And 1413 01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:56,479 Speaker 1: it turns out that Breese Hall, who played five games 1414 01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:59,040 Speaker 1: this year, was the Jets leading rusher. So while there's 1415 01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:02,360 Speaker 1: been a lot of focus at quarterback in the dysfunction there, 1416 01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:05,599 Speaker 1: that tells the story of an offense that completely melted down. 1417 01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:08,960 Speaker 1: And I think it's probably gonna cost their offensive coordinator's job. Yeah, 1418 01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:11,480 Speaker 1: it's It's interesting because this, of course is a Shanahan 1419 01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:15,160 Speaker 1: esk offense, where we're so used to over the years 1420 01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:19,400 Speaker 1: pre Christian McCaffrey watching Shanahan dial up seven different running 1421 01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:21,400 Speaker 1: backs over the course of a year, floods of injuries 1422 01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:23,000 Speaker 1: and it really wouldn't matter. They still get to a 1423 01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:25,400 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty yards a game. And it was the scheme, 1424 01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:27,599 Speaker 1: it was the system and the Jets on a daylight 1425 01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:30,080 Speaker 1: today and I'm really since Breefe Hall went down, they 1426 01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:32,120 Speaker 1: had thirty eight yards at one point nine yards per 1427 01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:35,000 Speaker 1: carried today, It's like, you can't It's not just the quarterback. 1428 01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:38,720 Speaker 1: You gotta find a way to surround good and bad quarterbacks, uh, 1429 01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:42,240 Speaker 1: wanting underhand quarterbacks that are not really skilled to get 1430 01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:44,600 Speaker 1: you to the playoffs with something. And they couldn't do that. 1431 01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:47,040 Speaker 1: And I mean, the Jets offense really fell asleep. And 1432 01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:48,920 Speaker 1: I think the Dolphins look so different to us because 1433 01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:53,439 Speaker 1: I don't really view two as a he. I think 1434 01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:55,200 Speaker 1: his numbers are better than who he is. That's just 1435 01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:58,000 Speaker 1: how he feels about. We don't know he's still he's 1436 01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:03,360 Speaker 1: still Post con press conference, it didn't sound like McDaniel 1437 01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:05,519 Speaker 1: had a ton of optims. Now Teddy Bridgewater, who was 1438 01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:07,120 Speaker 1: active for this game, I think would make a big 1439 01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:11,439 Speaker 1: difference because Skyler Thompson was skittish and a problem. Not 1440 01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:13,840 Speaker 1: a big difference like they'll go win in Buffalo, but 1441 01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:16,960 Speaker 1: but a big difference where you won't be the offense 1442 01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:20,519 Speaker 1: that you saw today because Thompson was a problem. The 1443 01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:24,200 Speaker 1: offensive lines were problems, but Thompson had much better protection 1444 01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:27,280 Speaker 1: in general than Joe Flacco, who got hit I think 1445 01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:29,280 Speaker 1: ten times and was was kind of fighting for his 1446 01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:33,200 Speaker 1: life out there. That maybe a veteran quarterback could give 1447 01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:36,200 Speaker 1: them some chance here because Thompson threw the ball thirty 1448 01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:39,400 Speaker 1: one times here for a hundred Bridgewater off and on 1449 01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:41,439 Speaker 1: the field, stay and stay in the game. I mean, 1450 01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:43,599 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not I'm not gonna blame him for injuries, 1451 01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:45,320 Speaker 1: but his two starts he didn't even get through. And 1452 01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:48,000 Speaker 1: I think that's the one thing i'd say about Mike McDaniel. Yes, 1453 01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:50,840 Speaker 1: they faded hard and like it's not been impressive. Their 1454 01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:53,320 Speaker 1: offense today just looked completely like a different offense. But 1455 01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:56,040 Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel, without a lot of drama, has found a 1456 01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:58,680 Speaker 1: way to get here in year one with the Dolphins 1457 01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:02,040 Speaker 1: with about as much uh you know, revolving door quarterback 1458 01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:05,000 Speaker 1: madness as you could ask for the Jets. He also 1459 01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:07,120 Speaker 1: went for two fourth and five's in this game from 1460 01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:10,240 Speaker 1: close to midfield, which I was surprised, including on the 1461 01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:12,960 Speaker 1: opening drive with surprise he did with Skylie Thompson. One 1462 01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:16,040 Speaker 1: didn't work. I wasn't worried about Flacco taking advantage. One 1463 01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:18,360 Speaker 1: did and then ended up leading to three points, So 1464 01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:21,000 Speaker 1: he was he was aggressive to the end. The Jets 1465 01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:25,160 Speaker 1: finished the season with thirty three straight drives without a touchdown. 1466 01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:27,400 Speaker 1: But at least he got Garrett Wilson, who I think 1467 01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:28,880 Speaker 1: would be my pick for a Rookie of the year, 1468 01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:31,639 Speaker 1: just I test wise and a year where there wasn't 1469 01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:34,599 Speaker 1: any huge obvious numbers guys. I think he just looks 1470 01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:37,200 Speaker 1: to me like the best player and he was nine 1471 01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:39,880 Speaker 1: nine today. Flacco smartly just tried to throw it to 1472 01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:41,800 Speaker 1: him every single time, even obvious to do in the 1473 01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:44,040 Speaker 1: off season. You just gotta figure out this quarterback thing. 1474 01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:47,320 Speaker 1: You've got a good You finally got a really strong roster. 1475 01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:49,639 Speaker 1: I think that uh. I think he's a true number 1476 01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:52,840 Speaker 1: one wide receiver. Gett Wilson will only get um better. 1477 01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:56,360 Speaker 1: And it was notable Greggy Um. We'll see Black Monday's 1478 01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:59,360 Speaker 1: coming up. Sorry, New Horizons Monday is coming up, and 1479 01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:02,559 Speaker 1: we'll see how everything plays out in the league. But 1480 01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:06,200 Speaker 1: Salo is probably safe. But just his comments, he would 1481 01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:09,599 Speaker 1: not kind of endorse La Fleora after the game, makes 1482 01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:12,600 Speaker 1: you think he's willing or knows he might have to 1483 01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:14,519 Speaker 1: sacrifice a guy that he probably doesn't want to get 1484 01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:16,639 Speaker 1: rid of for his own safety at this point. That's 1485 01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:20,479 Speaker 1: what six game losing streaks do. And that's a sad 1486 01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:22,559 Speaker 1: way for the Jet season and it was otherwise filled 1487 01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:25,880 Speaker 1: with hope a couple of weeks back to end. You 1488 01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:27,599 Speaker 1: know what, I hate this stuff though, because I don't 1489 01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:29,920 Speaker 1: I'm not convinced that la Flora can't do it. He's 1490 01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:32,960 Speaker 1: been around with his brother and everyone else. It's like, 1491 01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:35,760 Speaker 1: you went through so much like you were you were. 1492 01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:39,400 Speaker 1: You were tagged to play a non functional high draft 1493 01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:41,599 Speaker 1: pick who doesn't have it. We all know that now. 1494 01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:43,920 Speaker 1: They didn't know that three months ago, and it's like, 1495 01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:48,680 Speaker 1: are we gonna part of his to develop? And I 1496 01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:52,720 Speaker 1: think they failed on some level as well too. I 1497 01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:55,040 Speaker 1: kind of agree with you, but just saying develop Breese 1498 01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:57,559 Speaker 1: Hall or Garrett Wilson or other young players on both 1499 01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:02,720 Speaker 1: but already fifty years just picked the wrong guy, like 1500 01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:06,519 Speaker 1: they picked the wrong dude, you know. But somebody's got 1501 01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:08,280 Speaker 1: to go. And that's what happens when you lose six 1502 01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:10,639 Speaker 1: straight games then the season and you could say no, 1503 01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:13,240 Speaker 1: but it's like that's kind of the way the owner 1504 01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:15,760 Speaker 1: probably wants somebody out. And so I was gonna be like, 1505 01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:18,280 Speaker 1: I don't want to said owners should be involved in this, 1506 01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:21,040 Speaker 1: but that's not how this works. All right, just getting 1507 01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:23,200 Speaker 1: started here on the a f C. We'll be right 1508 01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:28,080 Speaker 1: back after this, all right, welcome back. By the way, 1509 01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:29,960 Speaker 1: did I mention that I don't think I ever mentioned 1510 01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:33,439 Speaker 1: the final score Dolphins eleven Jet six. And for those 1511 01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:39,160 Speaker 1: like score, I know that you you detest the safety 1512 01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:41,880 Speaker 1: on the final play after a fifty yard or from 1513 01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:45,439 Speaker 1: that your boys didn't trigger a score. Kid did not 1514 01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:49,920 Speaker 1: that it happened one other time, and it was I 1515 01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:52,920 Speaker 1: believe in the NFC title game, Bucks real. There were 1516 01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:55,040 Speaker 1: reporting mistakes out there then, because I was a report 1517 01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:57,800 Speaker 1: of the regular season the Bird of Manuel game, the 1518 01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:00,720 Speaker 1: Shaun King almost went to the super ball game. That 1519 01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:02,640 Speaker 1: was a bizarre conference champion. All right. So it's a 1520 01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:05,360 Speaker 1: regular season score gummy which has no meaning. It either 1521 01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:07,559 Speaker 1: is or it never has any meaning. I guess it's 1522 01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:10,439 Speaker 1: my overall viewpoint on score. Well, I would say nothing 1523 01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:13,920 Speaker 1: has any meaning. Nothing, nothing at all has meaning. If 1524 01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:17,200 Speaker 1: you want to be that nihilistic about any No, but 1525 01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:19,519 Speaker 1: but but like you're deciding to score, Gammy has no 1526 01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:21,679 Speaker 1: mean it meant something some people. You know, it meant 1527 01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:27,680 Speaker 1: a lot Saturday night in Duval, duv All. Let's go 1528 01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:31,240 Speaker 1: biggest playing the game right here, shotgun for doms. He 1529 01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:33,680 Speaker 1: drops at the blitz when all outlets hit him. He 1530 01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:39,240 Speaker 1: likes to go down, running it down the jacker, running 1531 01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:42,160 Speaker 1: it back the jack. You're gonna run it into the end, Zoe. 1532 01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:46,360 Speaker 1: John Jallen scores a touchdap. John Jallen has running back 1533 01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:52,719 Speaker 1: for Hey, touch tap for Catson. No do look, well, 1534 01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:55,320 Speaker 1: what a man. That's integrity. But that's the measure of 1535 01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:57,720 Speaker 1: the man. Yes it is. Or it's masochistic and I'm 1536 01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:00,720 Speaker 1: into that too, you know both. Great. They deserved it. 1537 01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:03,080 Speaker 1: After a week fourteen, I didn't give it to him. 1538 01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:07,040 Speaker 1: Crawls of the Year put that on the Calls of 1539 01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:08,800 Speaker 1: the Year. He said, this is the biggest play of 1540 01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:11,479 Speaker 1: the game. He didn't hesitate whether it was a fumble 1541 01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:14,920 Speaker 1: or not. That was great. The God of Bongo endorses 1542 01:21:15,160 --> 01:21:18,720 Speaker 1: your decision making. Here here here it carries Frank Frangie 1543 01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:24,639 Speaker 1: w O k V with the call Yes, Josh Ellen 1544 01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:28,120 Speaker 1: scoops up the bumble on the big hit on Joshua 1545 01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:32,559 Speaker 1: Dobbs takes it to the house uh. In a game 1546 01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:36,800 Speaker 1: that the Tennessee Titans, despite being beat up and missing 1547 01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:39,960 Speaker 1: their quarterback and bench their second stringer and brought in 1548 01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:42,559 Speaker 1: Dobbs who hadn't been on the team but for a 1549 01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:46,800 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. They had to lead the whole game, um, 1550 01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:48,960 Speaker 1: but let it slip away with two fifty one to 1551 01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:55,120 Speaker 1: play the fourth quarter. Twenty to sixteen, the Jaguars are 1552 01:21:56,040 --> 01:22:00,280 Speaker 1: the a f C South champions. Calmdown, Serrie, uh, Apple 1553 01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:06,400 Speaker 1: watch apologies, modern day nightmare. En Jaguars win the South 1554 01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:11,840 Speaker 1: and the Titans go homemark. I was thinking about Grave 1555 01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:14,920 Speaker 1: Digger h while watching this out on the town because 1556 01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:19,280 Speaker 1: it was like man, Tennessee has been a tough watch 1557 01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:21,000 Speaker 1: for weeks on end. I don't see them as a 1558 01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:24,479 Speaker 1: playoff team. I think we got the better operation here, well, 1559 01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:26,760 Speaker 1: but the better operation to go face the Chargers team. 1560 01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:29,040 Speaker 1: I like that matchup, but I felt for Grave Digger 1561 01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:32,200 Speaker 1: because this was like Mike Rabel and crew doing everything 1562 01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:34,400 Speaker 1: they possibly could with a guy that's not been who 1563 01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:36,200 Speaker 1: wasn't even on the roster a couple of weeks ago. 1564 01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:38,559 Speaker 1: At quarterback. I think Dobbs. It was smart what they 1565 01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:41,040 Speaker 1: did because Dobbs was the better option in this game. 1566 01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:44,000 Speaker 1: He's not perfect, we get that, but that turnover really 1567 01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:46,479 Speaker 1: was the turning point. I mean the Jacksonville defense because 1568 01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:49,720 Speaker 1: they didn't get a great look from Trevor Lawrence in 1569 01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:51,479 Speaker 1: the offense. It was not them at their high point, 1570 01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:55,400 Speaker 1: but they the defense allowed a hundred and sixteen yards 1571 01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:58,240 Speaker 1: and three points in the second half. Jacksonville ran under 1572 01:22:58,240 --> 01:23:01,040 Speaker 1: fifty offensive players from scrimmage the whole games, So to me, 1573 01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:03,519 Speaker 1: that showed that you can win different ways. You got 1574 01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:06,120 Speaker 1: just enough from Lawrence. But I think the better team 1575 01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:08,400 Speaker 1: one and I feel bad for Titans fans, but I 1576 01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:11,880 Speaker 1: think this Jacksonville journey has really shown as much as 1577 01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:14,519 Speaker 1: any team in the league, a team that started completely 1578 01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:16,400 Speaker 1: unsure of who they were at the beginning of the season, 1579 01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:18,519 Speaker 1: and under Doug Peterson. I don't want to overdo the 1580 01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:21,200 Speaker 1: culture thing because he took over the worst situation and 1581 01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:23,840 Speaker 1: they were There was no way that a culture coaching 1582 01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:26,160 Speaker 1: coming to do a better job than what happened last year. 1583 01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:28,120 Speaker 1: But I think Doug Peterson there's a lot of credit 1584 01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:31,040 Speaker 1: for allsoalk about development of a quarterback Trevor Lawrence grew 1585 01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:34,040 Speaker 1: by leaps and bounds under his watch. I hear you, 1586 01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:37,160 Speaker 1: and I'm glad that Jaguars are in much more excited 1587 01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:40,640 Speaker 1: to watch them. Their ceilings way higher. Trevor Lawrence is 1588 01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:44,200 Speaker 1: fun to watch. But I felt like the Titans deserved 1589 01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:46,840 Speaker 1: that game. Well, I mean that's I mean, I'd just 1590 01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:50,720 Speaker 1: been saying they don't deserves a tricky word. I think 1591 01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:54,559 Speaker 1: they outplayed him. They gained him by ninety They're playing 1592 01:23:54,560 --> 01:24:00,000 Speaker 1: with the backup quarterback here. Uh. Their defense in Jacksonville 1593 01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:03,320 Speaker 1: got it done like that bare front where they're putting 1594 01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:06,759 Speaker 1: five guys up on the defensive line and it's Trayvon 1595 01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:08,679 Speaker 1: Walker and Josh Allen, who might have had their two 1596 01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:11,080 Speaker 1: best games of the year, and Corey Peters kind of 1597 01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:15,000 Speaker 1: a random uh free agent pickup uh ends up dominating 1598 01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:17,920 Speaker 1: a Titans offensive line that was the titans biggest problem 1599 01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:21,679 Speaker 1: all season. It popped up here, but Dobbs was bawling out. 1600 01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:24,959 Speaker 1: I mean, Dobbs was going back and forth with Lawrence 1601 01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:27,200 Speaker 1: the whole game and was put in a tough spot 1602 01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:30,160 Speaker 1: and was doing great. They were kind of out playing them, 1603 01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:33,639 Speaker 1: and the Titan the Jack's offense got tight didn't play well. 1604 01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:36,439 Speaker 1: The Titans were a defensive team and was holding them down. 1605 01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:39,040 Speaker 1: If Dobbs had you know, seen that Blitzer and just 1606 01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:41,519 Speaker 1: throwing that ball away, like I'm not too confident that 1607 01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:44,760 Speaker 1: Jaguars offense was gonna do anything there and win that game. 1608 01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:48,120 Speaker 1: Graver or the everything went wrong for the Titans over 1609 01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:51,000 Speaker 1: the final two months of the year. The only thing 1610 01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:53,320 Speaker 1: that really did go right, although it ended up you know, 1611 01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:56,080 Speaker 1: painfully falling, shure, it was this hail Mary that was 1612 01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:59,639 Speaker 1: Joshua Dobbs. Because not only the lose Tanital to the angle, 1613 01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:02,439 Speaker 1: then the draft pick Malik Wills is kind of a 1614 01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:05,120 Speaker 1: mess and not ready for the moment. He did make 1615 01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:06,800 Speaker 1: the season, you were able to at least go out 1616 01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:09,160 Speaker 1: with your dignity and your held your head held high 1617 01:25:09,320 --> 01:25:12,000 Speaker 1: because he really did play well. Yeah, I mean, he 1618 01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:13,800 Speaker 1: played a lot better than I think anyone could have 1619 01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:17,559 Speaker 1: hoped or expected. And on that last play, you wonder, 1620 01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:21,120 Speaker 1: why are you even running a straight drop back with 1621 01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:24,200 Speaker 1: no chip or running back help in the in the 1622 01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:27,120 Speaker 1: past blocking scheme against the defensive front that has been 1623 01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:30,400 Speaker 1: dominating your backup offensive linemen all game with like four 1624 01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:33,200 Speaker 1: minutes to go and you've been running it, okay. I mean, 1625 01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:36,080 Speaker 1: Henry's been popping five to seven yard runs. You get 1626 01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:38,760 Speaker 1: a first down there with the run, and you potentially 1627 01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:40,519 Speaker 1: ice the game. You don't get the first down, you 1628 01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:43,479 Speaker 1: punt it, you pin Jacksonville deep. It was aggressive, but 1629 01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:46,439 Speaker 1: they were aggressive with him throughout the night, like he 1630 01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:48,679 Speaker 1: hit those third and longs. They weren't running on third 1631 01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:51,519 Speaker 1: and longs like he was hitting those throws against pressure. 1632 01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:54,160 Speaker 1: It can I agree with you. It's I was almost 1633 01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:56,880 Speaker 1: surprised how aggressive they were. Uh, but man if he 1634 01:25:56,920 --> 01:25:58,960 Speaker 1: had just seen that. Yeah, they and the game plan 1635 01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:02,439 Speaker 1: obviously was we need Derrick Henry to take us there, 1636 01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:05,360 Speaker 1: and they gave him the ball thirty times. On the ground, 1637 01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:07,680 Speaker 1: he went over hundred yards but averaged about three and 1638 01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:10,000 Speaker 1: a half yards of carry mark. So you didn't get 1639 01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:13,240 Speaker 1: that big time Derrick Henry game where he he had 1640 01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:15,800 Speaker 1: some nice powerful runs, but he couldn't make the big 1641 01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:18,320 Speaker 1: play to kind of win then the game like he's 1642 01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:20,080 Speaker 1: done so many times in the past. That's stiff arm. 1643 01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:22,360 Speaker 1: That just shows you that he's an impossible human being 1644 01:26:22,360 --> 01:26:24,479 Speaker 1: to deal with. But yeah, they had the ball for 1645 01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:26,360 Speaker 1: almost thirty seven minutes, and I think it was like 1646 01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:29,160 Speaker 1: let's keep the ball out of Jacksonville's hands so they 1647 01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:31,280 Speaker 1: don't get hot. And it can it can work only 1648 01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:33,799 Speaker 1: so long without a quarterback. And like, but but Dobbs, 1649 01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:36,000 Speaker 1: I think, you know, I don't know what. I think 1650 01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:40,320 Speaker 1: Dobbs is probably secured a clear cut um high end back. Second, 1651 01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:42,280 Speaker 1: you know, number two quarterback roll a year from year 1652 01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:44,200 Speaker 1: from now or a look to that degree. I think 1653 01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:47,599 Speaker 1: it's a good quarterback with with you know, he's smart um. 1654 01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:50,200 Speaker 1: But this was this was Tennessee, another team where like 1655 01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:53,200 Speaker 1: down the stretch, you have total quarterback chaos and it's 1656 01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:55,840 Speaker 1: just hard to take them that seriously, Jacks fans, don't 1657 01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:58,880 Speaker 1: be annoyed if I'm you know, dismissing this because the 1658 01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:02,919 Speaker 1: offense scored thirty points here. Laurence still played absolutely perfect 1659 01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:05,840 Speaker 1: until missing Kirk on that open touchdown to start the 1660 01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:07,800 Speaker 1: third quarter, like he was pitching a perfect game. Didn't 1661 01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:10,360 Speaker 1: have anything to do with him. Their lights out. It's 1662 01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:13,120 Speaker 1: good that their defense is playing better. I almost felt 1663 01:27:13,160 --> 01:27:15,559 Speaker 1: like they got this out of the way. They almost 1664 01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:18,400 Speaker 1: knew they were supposed to win this. They were heavy favorites. 1665 01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:20,640 Speaker 1: They've played a little tight, they got through it. I 1666 01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:23,080 Speaker 1: think they'll play better in the playoffs and they'll be 1667 01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:26,080 Speaker 1: fun to watch. That place was rocking. I love this 1668 01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:28,599 Speaker 1: game because they were hitting. It felt like a playoff game. 1669 01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:31,760 Speaker 1: It was, so that's a good home field advantage they 1670 01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:33,439 Speaker 1: have there. It's kind of slept on a little bit 1671 01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:36,000 Speaker 1: like that. That fan base endured a lot of losing 1672 01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:39,919 Speaker 1: after that. You know, you know that really special running seventeen, 1673 01:27:40,280 --> 01:27:42,519 Speaker 1: but it's been terrible since it was the biggest crowd 1674 01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:48,519 Speaker 1: in that stadium since they've pulled the tarps off. They 1675 01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:51,519 Speaker 1: were like hitting like crazy. It really felt like a 1676 01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:54,559 Speaker 1: playoff game almost every play, just like it was popping. 1677 01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:57,719 Speaker 1: They were that way back in when when this happened. 1678 01:27:57,720 --> 01:27:59,840 Speaker 1: But with it with Blake Portles at quarterback, now you 1679 01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:02,120 Speaker 1: something where it's like, wait a minute, this could last 1680 01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:04,240 Speaker 1: for a while. This is different. This is a different 1681 01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:07,280 Speaker 1: field they and yes they go out on a five 1682 01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:10,439 Speaker 1: game winning streak the Titans, I believe was what seven 1683 01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:13,880 Speaker 1: seven straight. They scored more than twenty points on that 1684 01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:16,640 Speaker 1: losing streak one time. Man, these like all these a 1685 01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:18,960 Speaker 1: FC teams are like, please pull us from the playoff 1686 01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:20,800 Speaker 1: rames exactly. So the Titans have a lot of work 1687 01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:23,719 Speaker 1: to do and We'll see what happens with them next Uh. 1688 01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:28,280 Speaker 1: And the Jaguars get the Chargers in their building as 1689 01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:32,960 Speaker 1: a division champion. How about that? Let's move on next stop. 1690 01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:39,240 Speaker 1: It's all left shod Mames looks that holds the ball, 1691 01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:45,600 Speaker 1: holds it. He's got McKennon touchdown Chence City on a 1692 01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:50,480 Speaker 1: basketball shotle pass straight ahead to the amazing Jerick McKinnon. 1693 01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:54,960 Speaker 1: Why I gotta think of Patrick Mahomes is the amazing one. 1694 01:28:55,040 --> 01:28:57,880 Speaker 1: And Jack McKinnon has been done a nice job finding 1695 01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:02,200 Speaker 1: a niche in that offense and catch little miracle shovel passes. 1696 01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:07,200 Speaker 1: Uh like that. The other Saturday Saturday game was a 1697 01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:12,559 Speaker 1: easy thirty one to thirteen Kansas City win over the Raiders. 1698 01:29:13,439 --> 01:29:18,439 Speaker 1: With the win because of the unusual, unprecedented circumstances in 1699 01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:23,480 Speaker 1: our league over the last ten days, by winning percentage 1700 01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:26,680 Speaker 1: by playing one more extra game, the Chiefs are the 1701 01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:28,599 Speaker 1: number one seed in the a f C and get 1702 01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:30,840 Speaker 1: the by that comes with it. Of course, with the 1703 01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:35,160 Speaker 1: caveat Greggy that if the Chiefs and the Bengals were 1704 01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:38,120 Speaker 1: to meet in the a f C, Chiefs and the Bills, 1705 01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:39,960 Speaker 1: I should say, were to meet an af C title game, 1706 01:29:40,160 --> 01:29:42,040 Speaker 1: it would be on a neutral field. But the Chiefs, 1707 01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:44,920 Speaker 1: once again the top seed in the f C, thinking like, 1708 01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:48,240 Speaker 1: I'm a Vegas for that game? Is that a possibility? 1709 01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:53,800 Speaker 1: They'll just go to Indianapolis. Get them out of there now, 1710 01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:56,240 Speaker 1: they've already told them they've rejected the NFL. I guess 1711 01:29:56,240 --> 01:30:00,639 Speaker 1: that was the NFL. If the championship game, what would 1712 01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:03,640 Speaker 1: have happened when was this booked? Well, they would have 1713 01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:05,280 Speaker 1: found a different I wouldn't have gone in with that 1714 01:30:05,400 --> 01:30:08,400 Speaker 1: as a possible scenario. They've they've known for a while. 1715 01:30:08,479 --> 01:30:10,719 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I do know that I believe 1716 01:30:10,760 --> 01:30:13,360 Speaker 1: Phil Phil's daughter has been, you know, participating at that event. 1717 01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:16,880 Speaker 1: So the city of Indianapolis and UM Jim Rasay and 1718 01:30:16,880 --> 01:30:21,000 Speaker 1: the people of Lucas oil Field UM said no, we 1719 01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:24,320 Speaker 1: don't want the a f C championship game. We're gonna 1720 01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:28,160 Speaker 1: be loyal to the volleyball sand people. Okay, I respect it. 1721 01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:30,240 Speaker 1: I'm just saying I don't think there's extremely loyal I 1722 01:30:30,240 --> 01:30:32,519 Speaker 1: do think it's safe to say there's no sand involved here. 1723 01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:37,519 Speaker 1: I think they're they're just inside. I don't know, I 1724 01:30:37,640 --> 01:30:41,040 Speaker 1: think about what this is. I don't know. Maybe do 1725 01:30:41,080 --> 01:30:45,200 Speaker 1: you guys know I mean, I think that volleys all over. 1726 01:30:45,400 --> 01:30:48,040 Speaker 1: If you're in the Midwest, where can you Where do 1727 01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:50,320 Speaker 1: you get a chance to play beach volleyball? You don't 1728 01:30:50,360 --> 01:30:51,680 Speaker 1: live in the Midwest. If you want to do that, 1729 01:30:52,040 --> 01:30:54,720 Speaker 1: maybe there's a concert within the Midwest of people that 1730 01:30:54,760 --> 01:30:58,719 Speaker 1: have always dream maybe by by a lakeside in the summer, 1731 01:30:58,720 --> 01:31:00,960 Speaker 1: but not in in January. I'm just saying, if you 1732 01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:03,679 Speaker 1: if you take a bacco and truck in some sand, 1733 01:31:04,080 --> 01:31:05,800 Speaker 1: you could probably make a lot of dreams come true. 1734 01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:10,360 Speaker 1: Asking them too much for Midwestern civilian. We've paid no 1735 01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:16,920 Speaker 1: attention to nil uh and this game, Like I was 1736 01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:19,280 Speaker 1: hoping this wouldn't be that kind of a game because 1737 01:31:19,320 --> 01:31:21,200 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't want to give my whole weekend 1738 01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:22,920 Speaker 1: to the NFL. I thought I'll catch up to this 1739 01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:25,960 Speaker 1: at the end. You want to stand fast and yeah, 1740 01:31:26,040 --> 01:31:28,400 Speaker 1: this thing was what we thought it might be, which 1741 01:31:28,439 --> 01:31:32,040 Speaker 1: is the Chiefs to VIC That's what I'm saying. I 1742 01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:33,720 Speaker 1: think the Chiefs have to feel good that they've been 1743 01:31:33,720 --> 01:31:36,439 Speaker 1: getting pass rush over the last month. Now, some of 1744 01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:39,240 Speaker 1: that could be opponent related, but man Chris Jones had 1745 01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:42,000 Speaker 1: one of the best games any defensive lineman had all season. 1746 01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:44,599 Speaker 1: Six QB hats, QB hits in one game, but car 1747 01:31:44,640 --> 01:31:50,519 Speaker 1: Loftis and Dunlop since Week fourteen their fifth in pressure rate. 1748 01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:53,080 Speaker 1: Before that they were twenty six. So their defensive line 1749 01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:55,479 Speaker 1: has been getting after my homes kind of put the cherry, 1750 01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:57,559 Speaker 1: I think on his m v P case. To me, 1751 01:31:57,600 --> 01:32:00,320 Speaker 1: there's not much reason uh to go again them, And 1752 01:32:00,360 --> 01:32:01,720 Speaker 1: I think this game was kind of a reminder how 1753 01:32:01,720 --> 01:32:03,679 Speaker 1: they've done it differently. They're doing it with two tight 1754 01:32:03,800 --> 01:32:08,040 Speaker 1: ends and a lot of plays under center, and you know, 1755 01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:11,400 Speaker 1: throwing the balls shorter. His average depth of target is shorter. 1756 01:32:11,439 --> 01:32:13,679 Speaker 1: Like at the different homes. You get the spectacular plays, 1757 01:32:13,680 --> 01:32:15,439 Speaker 1: but it's a different type of Chiefs offense. That's who 1758 01:32:15,439 --> 01:32:17,360 Speaker 1: they've been. It's a different offense. You're right, because it's 1759 01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:20,559 Speaker 1: been very running back tight end centric, a huge chunk, 1760 01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:23,320 Speaker 1: a higher percentage than any of his careers seasons. Of 1761 01:32:23,400 --> 01:32:26,559 Speaker 1: his touchdown passes have been short touchdown passes to running 1762 01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:28,559 Speaker 1: backs and tight ends, and you see it. The great 1763 01:32:28,560 --> 01:32:30,679 Speaker 1: red zone team they are, they've been good. Like their 1764 01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:34,719 Speaker 1: defense to your point, like pressured Stidham at on forty 1765 01:32:34,760 --> 01:32:36,800 Speaker 1: five point two of his dropbacks, their highest rate for 1766 01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:39,000 Speaker 1: the Chiefs, and three seasons. I wanted to see if 1767 01:32:39,000 --> 01:32:40,760 Speaker 1: Stidham could come back and do it did last week 1768 01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:43,599 Speaker 1: against a great Niners defense, and it didn't even come 1769 01:32:43,640 --> 01:32:47,759 Speaker 1: close to happening. I mean, that's fine. It was He's fine, 1770 01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:50,200 Speaker 1: But I mean last week was like a magical performance, 1771 01:32:50,240 --> 01:32:52,599 Speaker 1: like is he Brock? Pretty? Like? Did they clone Brock? 1772 01:32:52,640 --> 01:32:55,040 Speaker 1: Purty and Britain may turn them into Jared Stidham. They 1773 01:32:55,080 --> 01:32:57,000 Speaker 1: did not look at this way. Mark. The first super 1774 01:32:57,040 --> 01:32:59,960 Speaker 1: Bowl we ever went to was that Lucas Oil Stadium. 1775 01:33:00,240 --> 01:33:03,160 Speaker 1: It was Indianapolis. They got the bid because of the 1776 01:33:03,200 --> 01:33:05,360 Speaker 1: new stadium. I remember that week and it was a 1777 01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:09,759 Speaker 1: great they got beautiful weather. Um that was so Greggy's 1778 01:33:09,800 --> 01:33:13,320 Speaker 1: blocked it out because of the outcome of the game itself. 1779 01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:16,200 Speaker 1: But I don't know if the Colts get another super Bowl, 1780 01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:18,920 Speaker 1: this is your chances of city to get something I 1781 01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:20,800 Speaker 1: could be better than the super Bowl because it's the 1782 01:33:20,840 --> 01:33:23,559 Speaker 1: two best teams that you say yourself, Greggy, I could 1783 01:33:23,600 --> 01:33:26,280 Speaker 1: get the two best teams in football in your city 1784 01:33:26,479 --> 01:33:28,640 Speaker 1: for a huge game, and instead you're gonna have the 1785 01:33:28,720 --> 01:33:33,080 Speaker 1: Central Zone Invitational, Uh in the building. It's just like 1786 01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:35,240 Speaker 1: it's not too late to make a couple of it. 1787 01:33:35,280 --> 01:33:38,080 Speaker 1: Does seem like you could send send the central zone 1788 01:33:38,120 --> 01:33:41,680 Speaker 1: volleyball um operation to a different indoor facility. Does we 1789 01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:46,000 Speaker 1: feel possible? Um? You know, Phil Wesseling, I believe his 1790 01:33:46,080 --> 01:33:48,160 Speaker 1: daughter has been playing at this tournament in the past, 1791 01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:53,160 Speaker 1: and he's thinking, there ain't gonna be a Bill's Chiefs 1792 01:33:53,240 --> 01:33:56,320 Speaker 1: a f C championship. I see here you go with that. 1793 01:33:57,400 --> 01:33:59,519 Speaker 1: But good job, Greg, just blew my left ear drum 1794 01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:04,920 Speaker 1: ountin alright, Stilla was so is very athletic. I think 1795 01:34:04,920 --> 01:34:06,760 Speaker 1: he'll get a backup job because of that. I think 1796 01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:09,439 Speaker 1: he played quite well in this game overall. And I 1797 01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:13,360 Speaker 1: already a backup, right he does have that job. Well, 1798 01:34:13,400 --> 01:34:17,400 Speaker 1: he's a free agent. It's wide open. I he showed 1799 01:34:17,439 --> 01:34:19,639 Speaker 1: way more than I would have ever expected in these 1800 01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:21,880 Speaker 1: two games, just like last week alone. Would get you 1801 01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:24,680 Speaker 1: like they had no clue that he was, that he 1802 01:34:24,720 --> 01:34:26,519 Speaker 1: could run as well as he could, or that he 1803 01:34:26,840 --> 01:34:28,800 Speaker 1: had the arm that he could And uh, I did 1804 01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:30,599 Speaker 1: have a clue, could areas Tony could be this good? 1805 01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:34,559 Speaker 1: But I think it's pretty talentane man, how powerful and 1806 01:34:34,640 --> 01:34:36,559 Speaker 1: shifty he is going into the playoffs, and what a 1807 01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:38,519 Speaker 1: big deal and also the best play in this game 1808 01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:41,360 Speaker 1: that didn't count was the Chiefs in their huddle doing 1809 01:34:41,360 --> 01:34:43,559 Speaker 1: the ring around the rosie with their arms around each other, 1810 01:34:43,960 --> 01:34:46,080 Speaker 1: like swirling around, then coming out of it like a 1811 01:34:46,160 --> 01:34:48,960 Speaker 1: hurricane into a bizarre position. They wound up as a 1812 01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:52,920 Speaker 1: trick play with Tony scoring. It got reversed by a flag, 1813 01:34:52,960 --> 01:34:54,360 Speaker 1: but then he scored the next play. I think it's 1814 01:34:54,360 --> 01:34:56,080 Speaker 1: almost he's like their secret weapon. They give up like 1815 01:34:56,080 --> 01:34:58,360 Speaker 1: a third round compensatory pick for him. Like what do 1816 01:34:58,360 --> 01:35:00,679 Speaker 1: you think Mark Davis and Charles would and talk about. 1817 01:35:01,320 --> 01:35:02,720 Speaker 1: I feel like it's not the first time we've seen 1818 01:35:02,760 --> 01:35:05,840 Speaker 1: them just pounding always Wood's in there. Yeah, I don't 1819 01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:09,320 Speaker 1: know Raiders history. Do you think they have a real friendship, 1820 01:35:10,600 --> 01:35:12,840 Speaker 1: But I think it's a it's one of those friendships 1821 01:35:12,880 --> 01:35:15,120 Speaker 1: that's by you. I think they're talking ball. I mean 1822 01:35:15,360 --> 01:35:17,559 Speaker 1: you could say a lot about Mark Davis. Do you 1823 01:35:17,560 --> 01:35:20,160 Speaker 1: think he's asking like who should be my quarterback next year? Well? 1824 01:35:20,160 --> 01:35:21,800 Speaker 1: I mean maybe a little bit of that, but more 1825 01:35:21,920 --> 01:35:23,360 Speaker 1: just talking about the game in front of that guy 1826 01:35:23,439 --> 01:35:25,680 Speaker 1: is a football guy. If nothing else, he is the 1827 01:35:25,720 --> 01:35:28,960 Speaker 1: son of the ultimate football guy. Didn't can you know 1828 01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:30,920 Speaker 1: watch football every day of his life? I think they're 1829 01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:34,240 Speaker 1: just talking ball. Our friend Bert Brier did put out 1830 01:35:34,240 --> 01:35:38,519 Speaker 1: a report this morning that the Raiders are considering Jimmy 1831 01:35:38,520 --> 01:35:43,320 Speaker 1: garoppolo obvious ties to Josh McDaniels, as their lead man 1832 01:35:43,360 --> 01:35:46,160 Speaker 1: next season. We'll get thank you for bringing that up. 1833 01:35:46,200 --> 01:35:49,400 Speaker 1: We'll get into it um later on in the week 1834 01:35:49,479 --> 01:35:52,400 Speaker 1: or whatever, but like, is that enough grade over Derek Carr? 1835 01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:57,839 Speaker 1: I think it's almost like apples and apples. That's justin 1836 01:35:58,120 --> 01:36:00,920 Speaker 1: before we take a break, before the break. I forgot 1837 01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:04,960 Speaker 1: to do this for the last game. You know what, 1838 01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:08,080 Speaker 1: he's again showing he's a man of principle. He actually 1839 01:36:08,200 --> 01:36:11,800 Speaker 1: acknowledged that he ignored the concept of bongoes a while back, 1840 01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:15,400 Speaker 1: and in this same situation now he's gone bongos and 1841 01:36:15,439 --> 01:36:17,760 Speaker 1: he's gone, I'll remind you that I lost my lock 1842 01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:21,080 Speaker 1: and like it says a lot about his personal lost everything, 1843 01:36:21,120 --> 01:36:23,680 Speaker 1: and yours was in a more dramatic way. But I 1844 01:36:23,680 --> 01:36:26,040 Speaker 1: did the same thing the previous week. You get behind 1845 01:36:26,080 --> 01:36:28,640 Speaker 1: your team and you kind of try to put that 1846 01:36:28,760 --> 01:36:32,320 Speaker 1: positive energy. It just doesn't work out sometimes. Right now, 1847 01:36:32,760 --> 01:36:36,240 Speaker 1: got detached and I love the integrity, but I love 1848 01:36:36,320 --> 01:36:38,720 Speaker 1: like execution even better. So we do want to get 1849 01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:42,320 Speaker 1: that with the game. Yes, for the next lock. I 1850 01:36:42,360 --> 01:36:46,800 Speaker 1: will remember Grave Digger is the only person attached to 1851 01:36:46,920 --> 01:36:49,360 Speaker 1: us that gave Christmas gifts. We didn't give them anyone. 1852 01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:53,400 Speaker 1: He gave nice little uh Guinness flavored chocolates had refused 1853 01:36:53,400 --> 01:36:57,200 Speaker 1: with Guinness beer. Wonderful gift had one kind of a 1854 01:36:57,200 --> 01:36:59,920 Speaker 1: wild thing to pick. I was trying to I texted 1855 01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:03,160 Speaker 1: to do that, and then he said, hey, listen, I 1856 01:37:03,200 --> 01:37:06,000 Speaker 1: looked interesting, and yeah, I know Mark likes beer. And 1857 01:37:06,040 --> 01:37:09,280 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, that's true. I was wondering if 1858 01:37:09,320 --> 01:37:11,080 Speaker 1: I alone got that gift and you guys got like 1859 01:37:11,240 --> 01:37:14,840 Speaker 1: rose scented, you know, bathroom spray or something gross. All right, 1860 01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:20,120 Speaker 1: let's take a break, will be right back. All right, Um, 1861 01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:22,920 Speaker 1: before we welcome in our buddy Nick Shook for the 1862 01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:26,960 Speaker 1: last time this season, we should clarify that Greg, you 1863 01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:30,920 Speaker 1: and I had a locked. Glad, we're going back to 1864 01:37:31,479 --> 01:37:35,639 Speaker 1: settle this. You just you just pointed fingers a graver 1865 01:37:35,800 --> 01:37:39,000 Speaker 1: for not you know, in a clean way. Yeah, it's 1866 01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:42,000 Speaker 1: like sloppier than Patriots special teams. Right now, we have 1867 01:37:42,080 --> 01:37:44,320 Speaker 1: to clean it up. Four heads are gonna very ugly 1868 01:37:44,920 --> 01:37:48,720 Speaker 1: for your professionalism. All right, Let's now check in with 1869 01:37:48,840 --> 01:37:51,599 Speaker 1: the other team that played on that fateful Monday night 1870 01:37:51,640 --> 01:37:54,880 Speaker 1: in Cincinnati. The Bengals, who were looking to finish the 1871 01:37:54,920 --> 01:37:58,679 Speaker 1: regular season on high even though they are peeved about 1872 01:37:58,720 --> 01:38:01,960 Speaker 1: the league's rule changes ahead of the playoffs. Is going 1873 01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:08,320 Speaker 1: to throw from here and brought down comes out, which 1874 01:38:09,040 --> 01:38:14,480 Speaker 1: for a touchdown, but BEng golf knocking away Trey Hendrickson 1875 01:38:14,640 --> 01:38:18,320 Speaker 1: stripped it away from Anthony Brown hand a tree covered 1876 01:38:18,320 --> 01:38:23,080 Speaker 1: in the end zone for a Cincinnati touchdown. That's what 1877 01:38:23,240 --> 01:38:28,600 Speaker 1: you call taking care of business. Dan Horde Dave Lapham 1878 01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:33,519 Speaker 1: with the call. Cincinnati Bengals jumped out ahead early on 1879 01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:38,680 Speaker 1: the Ravens and kind of coasted from there to sixteen. 1880 01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:42,479 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow through for a touchdown, Joe Mixon ran for another, 1881 01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:45,519 Speaker 1: and uh pulled a coin out from his sock and 1882 01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:48,400 Speaker 1: and flipped it in the air to mock the NFL's 1883 01:38:48,439 --> 01:38:52,080 Speaker 1: decision to potentially decide a playoff game if it were 1884 01:38:52,080 --> 01:38:54,960 Speaker 1: to happen with the Ravens by a coin flip for 1885 01:38:55,040 --> 01:38:58,919 Speaker 1: home field, that's not happening because Cincinnati took care of business. 1886 01:38:59,320 --> 01:39:03,120 Speaker 1: They are twelve for Baltimore Tenant seven. Nick shook the 1887 01:39:03,160 --> 01:39:07,120 Speaker 1: pipe is here. I'm here. I'm here to flex in 1888 01:39:07,240 --> 01:39:12,240 Speaker 1: representation of the Bengals who turned away all the criticism 1889 01:39:12,240 --> 01:39:15,040 Speaker 1: and all the consternation regarding the coin flip and said, 1890 01:39:15,040 --> 01:39:16,639 Speaker 1: you know what, We're gonna go out. We're gonna take 1891 01:39:16,680 --> 01:39:19,840 Speaker 1: care of business as a playoff team and a title 1892 01:39:19,880 --> 01:39:23,280 Speaker 1: contending team should do. Wasn't the prettiest game, guys. Now, 1893 01:39:23,360 --> 01:39:25,720 Speaker 1: they jumped all over him early thanks to those takeaways. 1894 01:39:25,880 --> 01:39:28,519 Speaker 1: They really should send the Ravens a gift basket, provided 1895 01:39:28,600 --> 01:39:30,639 Speaker 1: they don't run into them again in the postseason, which 1896 01:39:30,640 --> 01:39:34,320 Speaker 1: we'll see, because they did them a huge favor by 1897 01:39:34,320 --> 01:39:36,679 Speaker 1: playing their third string quarterback this week and protecting Tyler 1898 01:39:36,720 --> 01:39:38,160 Speaker 1: Huntley in the event that he has to play in 1899 01:39:38,160 --> 01:39:41,360 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Anthony Brown mall probably a nice kid in 1900 01:39:41,439 --> 01:39:44,880 Speaker 1: Oregon product, clearly not suited for a game of this magnitude. 1901 01:39:45,080 --> 01:39:47,880 Speaker 1: Two very ugly interceptions early. You saw the strip sack 1902 01:39:47,960 --> 01:39:51,280 Speaker 1: recovered for a touchdown there. That was the Bengals route 1903 01:39:51,280 --> 01:39:53,320 Speaker 1: to victory. They jumped all over and put twenty one 1904 01:39:53,360 --> 01:39:55,680 Speaker 1: points on the board from those takeaways. They go into 1905 01:39:55,720 --> 01:39:58,120 Speaker 1: the half of the seven lead, and that was pretty 1906 01:39:58,200 --> 01:40:00,280 Speaker 1: much all she wrote. Because the second half they didn't 1907 01:40:00,280 --> 01:40:02,559 Speaker 1: even break a hunted yards offense. That's something that they 1908 01:40:02,560 --> 01:40:04,639 Speaker 1: need to figure out going forward. They gotta figure out 1909 01:40:04,640 --> 01:40:06,840 Speaker 1: what the Ravens did defensively that shut them down. They 1910 01:40:06,840 --> 01:40:09,400 Speaker 1: missed some opportunities. Joe Burrowhead Jamar Chase open for a 1911 01:40:09,439 --> 01:40:11,000 Speaker 1: touchdown under threw them a little bit. There was a 1912 01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:13,080 Speaker 1: couple of the long passes that didn't get completed. They 1913 01:40:13,080 --> 01:40:15,680 Speaker 1: could have gone for big games and potentially touchdowns. They 1914 01:40:15,680 --> 01:40:17,400 Speaker 1: don't look quite as strong as they have for the 1915 01:40:17,479 --> 01:40:19,639 Speaker 1: last two months, but coming off of what they dealt 1916 01:40:19,680 --> 01:40:21,960 Speaker 1: with last week, I can understand that. And all in all, 1917 01:40:22,160 --> 01:40:24,920 Speaker 1: they got the job done. They secured the home game 1918 01:40:25,240 --> 01:40:27,960 Speaker 1: going into next weekend. That's all that really matters to them. 1919 01:40:28,000 --> 01:40:30,679 Speaker 1: And we can leave the change in the coin purse, 1920 01:40:30,880 --> 01:40:32,840 Speaker 1: go spend it on parking because you don't have to 1921 01:40:32,840 --> 01:40:34,920 Speaker 1: spend it or use a quarter to flip it to 1922 01:40:34,920 --> 01:40:36,920 Speaker 1: figure out where you're playing next week. It will be 1923 01:40:37,000 --> 01:40:39,599 Speaker 1: fine for that number one. Although that's you know, when 1924 01:40:39,600 --> 01:40:41,799 Speaker 1: you talk about these players, salaries not a huge issue. 1925 01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:45,479 Speaker 1: I also use like a card now to pay for parking. 1926 01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:49,320 Speaker 1: I don't even use yeah because you live in l A. Yeah, 1927 01:40:49,360 --> 01:40:53,519 Speaker 1: well it's it's instructive of us. But I mean, they 1928 01:40:53,560 --> 01:40:55,120 Speaker 1: were messy down the stretch. Shook, and I think I 1929 01:40:55,200 --> 01:40:56,920 Speaker 1: said a lot about the Ravens. They one drive of 1930 01:40:57,000 --> 01:40:58,720 Speaker 1: their last ten that went over twelve yards, and it 1931 01:40:58,800 --> 01:41:00,920 Speaker 1: kind of looked like if there were these big misconnections. 1932 01:41:01,280 --> 01:41:03,000 Speaker 1: The biggest concern for me because I'm not really I 1933 01:41:03,040 --> 01:41:05,240 Speaker 1: just kind of this Week eighteen stuff. I'm willing to 1934 01:41:05,320 --> 01:41:07,639 Speaker 1: let it blow away. But Alex Kappa was carded off 1935 01:41:07,640 --> 01:41:10,120 Speaker 1: the field with a left ankle. You already have Lyle 1936 01:41:10,200 --> 01:41:12,360 Speaker 1: Collins out. That's your entire the entire right side of 1937 01:41:12,360 --> 01:41:14,240 Speaker 1: your line. This what happened to him last year when 1938 01:41:14,280 --> 01:41:17,320 Speaker 1: they were trying to, you know, say, keep Joe Burrow upright. 1939 01:41:17,360 --> 01:41:19,800 Speaker 1: So that's that just as a lingering concern for me, 1940 01:41:20,320 --> 01:41:23,160 Speaker 1: But I really thought at least it showed their defense, 1941 01:41:23,200 --> 01:41:27,200 Speaker 1: which were turnover ball hawks last January, that they could 1942 01:41:27,240 --> 01:41:30,160 Speaker 1: do it again today. And they prayed on a quarterback 1943 01:41:30,200 --> 01:41:32,479 Speaker 1: that was not ready for prime time. But this Ravens 1944 01:41:32,520 --> 01:41:35,240 Speaker 1: team in general, I mean rap Report reported this morning 1945 01:41:35,240 --> 01:41:39,240 Speaker 1: that it is completely essentially said that no one truly 1946 01:41:39,280 --> 01:41:41,880 Speaker 1: knows if Lamar Jackson will be ready for the wild 1947 01:41:41,920 --> 01:41:43,960 Speaker 1: card matchup, and it just seems like it's trending in 1948 01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:45,920 Speaker 1: the direction of like, are we gonna see him again 1949 01:41:46,040 --> 01:41:48,200 Speaker 1: this season, and if we don't and you get this 1950 01:41:48,360 --> 01:41:51,920 Speaker 1: or Tyler Huntley next week, I love Cincinnati's chances. You know, 1951 01:41:51,920 --> 01:41:56,360 Speaker 1: my friend Peter Schrager, he was on Bill Simmons Football podcast, uh, 1952 01:41:56,360 --> 01:41:58,160 Speaker 1: and I happened to catch on Twitter. They had a 1953 01:41:58,160 --> 01:42:01,280 Speaker 1: conversation about this, and you know, Schreeger's pluged in as anybody, 1954 01:42:01,360 --> 01:42:03,640 Speaker 1: and he didn't report directly that it was something he 1955 01:42:03,720 --> 01:42:06,360 Speaker 1: was hearing from the Ravens, but he's certainly in the 1956 01:42:06,360 --> 01:42:09,479 Speaker 1: conversation that he was having about the subject of Lamar 1957 01:42:09,600 --> 01:42:14,519 Speaker 1: Jackson and his continuing absence kind of let it hang 1958 01:42:14,560 --> 01:42:17,680 Speaker 1: out there that there might be more to this, potentially 1959 01:42:18,360 --> 01:42:22,720 Speaker 1: than just an injury with his uncertain financial future. And 1960 01:42:22,760 --> 01:42:24,720 Speaker 1: I just thought it was notable coming from Schraeger the 1961 01:42:24,720 --> 01:42:28,800 Speaker 1: way he, you know, had that conversation. Interesting thought, It 1962 01:42:28,920 --> 01:42:31,840 Speaker 1: is fascinating. Is also is weird to look at the 1963 01:42:31,840 --> 01:42:34,160 Speaker 1: different reports about whether Lamar is gonna play next week, 1964 01:42:34,240 --> 01:42:36,920 Speaker 1: or that they're feeling confident or they're not feeling confident, 1965 01:42:37,200 --> 01:42:39,719 Speaker 1: and it like changes depending on which reporter you listen 1966 01:42:39,800 --> 01:42:42,519 Speaker 1: to and what time of the day and which day 1967 01:42:42,560 --> 01:42:45,479 Speaker 1: it is. But to me, action speak louder the Ravens 1968 01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:48,679 Speaker 1: knew the most likely outcome here was they were gonna 1969 01:42:48,720 --> 01:42:51,680 Speaker 1: lose this game with a backup and that they were 1970 01:42:51,680 --> 01:42:55,040 Speaker 1: going to go back to Cincinnati next week. That's exactly 1971 01:42:55,040 --> 01:42:59,559 Speaker 1: what's happening. They ended up sitting some of their starters, 1972 01:42:59,640 --> 01:43:03,599 Speaker 1: include Huntley, who is the key one that they really 1973 01:43:03,600 --> 01:43:06,720 Speaker 1: didn't want to lose if they don't have Lamar. To me, 1974 01:43:06,760 --> 01:43:09,599 Speaker 1: you wouldn't sit Huntley if you felt like you needed 1975 01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:12,080 Speaker 1: this game, or if that you're confident Lamar. It's it's 1976 01:43:12,080 --> 01:43:14,160 Speaker 1: an awkward Week eight team thing. I hate this. When 1977 01:43:14,160 --> 01:43:16,000 Speaker 1: they played each other twice in a row. I think 1978 01:43:16,040 --> 01:43:18,400 Speaker 1: the Bengals, if I had to pick, might be the 1979 01:43:18,439 --> 01:43:20,360 Speaker 1: best team in the NFL, and yet I think this 1980 01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:23,360 Speaker 1: is an awkward matchup next week for them. It's a 1981 01:43:23,360 --> 01:43:26,519 Speaker 1: division matchup. A very good defense, one of the only 1982 01:43:26,560 --> 01:43:29,599 Speaker 1: defenses in the league, if healthy shook that I think 1983 01:43:29,840 --> 01:43:33,320 Speaker 1: can hold down Cincinnati's offense and just ugly it up, 1984 01:43:33,439 --> 01:43:36,040 Speaker 1: especially if they can get any quarterback play. Yeah, you 1985 01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:38,000 Speaker 1: saw an example of that today. I mean, like I said, 1986 01:43:38,000 --> 01:43:39,720 Speaker 1: in the second half, that couldn't break a hundred yards. 1987 01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:42,599 Speaker 1: I mean their offense went from being fairly high powered 1988 01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:44,360 Speaker 1: the same offense we've seen for most of the second 1989 01:43:44,360 --> 01:43:46,439 Speaker 1: half of the season two one that was borderline and emiic. 1990 01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:49,559 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow just didn't quite look comfortable. Joe Mixon stat 1991 01:43:49,560 --> 01:43:51,880 Speaker 1: line doesn't reflect a game that you'd be proud of. 1992 01:43:52,320 --> 01:43:55,200 Speaker 1: And they've shifted a while ago. They shifted towards this 1993 01:43:55,280 --> 01:43:57,560 Speaker 1: past heavy offense that incorporated the running back in the 1994 01:43:57,560 --> 01:43:59,280 Speaker 1: passing game a little bit. But you couldn't really rely 1995 01:43:59,320 --> 01:44:02,120 Speaker 1: on the run game constantly or that consistently if you 1996 01:44:02,120 --> 01:44:04,240 Speaker 1: are in this situation for four quarters. Next week you 1997 01:44:04,320 --> 01:44:06,000 Speaker 1: talk about ugly in a game up, we get an 1998 01:44:06,040 --> 01:44:08,120 Speaker 1: ugly playoff game where the Bengal sudden they find themselves 1999 01:44:08,120 --> 01:44:09,479 Speaker 1: in a situation where they gotta go down and try 2000 01:44:09,479 --> 01:44:11,240 Speaker 1: and kick a game winning field goal. If it's you know, 2001 01:44:11,280 --> 01:44:13,360 Speaker 1: that close, I could very much see that happening, because 2002 01:44:13,360 --> 01:44:14,800 Speaker 1: if Huntley's in the line up, he gives them a 2003 01:44:14,800 --> 01:44:17,360 Speaker 1: better chance to match them offensively, or at least come 2004 01:44:17,400 --> 01:44:20,120 Speaker 1: close enough close than Anthony Brown, because there's four yards 2005 01:44:20,120 --> 01:44:25,160 Speaker 1: for playing today's shookie. Yeah, they got to sit on 2006 01:44:25,200 --> 01:44:27,400 Speaker 1: that lead. There's no guarantee that you're gonna go sit 2007 01:44:27,439 --> 01:44:29,519 Speaker 1: on that lead in a playoff game next week. So Yeah, 2008 01:44:29,600 --> 01:44:31,559 Speaker 1: definitely a little bit concerned about them, But I agree 2009 01:44:31,560 --> 01:44:33,200 Speaker 1: with you might be the best team in the NFL 2010 01:44:33,200 --> 01:44:34,960 Speaker 1: when all things are running correctly. They just didn't this. 2011 01:44:35,120 --> 01:44:36,640 Speaker 1: I don't think you're getting two weeks of this from 2012 01:44:36,640 --> 01:44:38,880 Speaker 1: the Bengals in a row. The line issue concerns me. 2013 01:44:38,960 --> 01:44:41,439 Speaker 1: But if Tyler Huntley played today and did not turn 2014 01:44:41,479 --> 01:44:43,479 Speaker 1: the ball over and they still just did what they've 2015 01:44:43,520 --> 01:44:45,760 Speaker 1: done under Tyler Huntley, would just be a very unimpressive 2016 01:44:45,800 --> 01:44:48,200 Speaker 1: to the eye offense in terms of production. Like this 2017 01:44:48,240 --> 01:44:50,439 Speaker 1: game is very close and goes down to the final minutes, 2018 01:44:50,720 --> 01:44:52,400 Speaker 1: it was the turnovers that set them up for these 2019 01:44:52,479 --> 01:44:54,679 Speaker 1: quick scores. They weren't moving the ball. One more week 2020 01:44:55,600 --> 01:44:59,280 Speaker 1: of the Baltimore Ravens. Hey is almost and we can 2021 01:44:59,360 --> 01:45:02,360 Speaker 1: move on as a football world. Hey, before we go 2022 01:45:02,920 --> 01:45:07,200 Speaker 1: to the next game, Shookie um as I said earlier 2023 01:45:07,240 --> 01:45:09,720 Speaker 1: in the show, this feels like the Bills that are 2024 01:45:09,720 --> 01:45:11,559 Speaker 1: a great team and a great story, and it just 2025 01:45:11,640 --> 01:45:14,840 Speaker 1: feels like this could be their year. But Cincinnati is 2026 01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:17,040 Speaker 1: a great story too, and they have a great team, 2027 01:45:17,040 --> 01:45:20,120 Speaker 1: and they have also, like the Bills, a tremendous quarterback 2028 01:45:20,640 --> 01:45:24,280 Speaker 1: who believes in his team and believes in himself. He 2029 01:45:24,360 --> 01:45:29,000 Speaker 1: was asked after the game while wearing a giant white 2030 01:45:29,200 --> 01:45:34,559 Speaker 1: turtleneck and looking like a cooler Kevin McAlister from Home Alone. Um. 2031 01:45:34,640 --> 01:45:38,080 Speaker 1: He was asked about the idea of a Cincinnati Bengal 2032 01:45:38,200 --> 01:45:42,000 Speaker 1: Super Bowl window windows my whole career and and everybody 2033 01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:44,680 Speaker 1: that that we have in that locker room, all the 2034 01:45:44,720 --> 01:45:47,519 Speaker 1: coaches we have. You know, things are going to change 2035 01:45:47,600 --> 01:45:51,960 Speaker 1: year to year, but uh, our windows always open. M 2036 01:45:53,120 --> 01:45:55,479 Speaker 1: He's good with these quotes. That's not my quarterback, but 2037 01:45:55,520 --> 01:45:56,920 Speaker 1: I wish it was. Yeah, I know, every couple of 2038 01:45:56,920 --> 01:46:00,720 Speaker 1: weeks he drops a verbal dime like that. And in 2039 01:46:00,760 --> 01:46:04,519 Speaker 1: addition to the physical times on the in addition to those, 2040 01:46:06,160 --> 01:46:09,160 Speaker 1: I mean, is nineties fashion completely back? Because it's bad. 2041 01:46:09,240 --> 01:46:12,839 Speaker 1: I got some serious flashbacks there. You know it isn't Ohio, 2042 01:46:12,920 --> 01:46:16,439 Speaker 1: I'd say you just got there. No, that we've reached 2043 01:46:16,439 --> 01:46:19,960 Speaker 1: a tipping point in this, uh the nostalgic culture right 2044 01:46:20,040 --> 01:46:23,320 Speaker 1: now when New York Times is doing a profile on 2045 01:46:24,479 --> 01:46:26,920 Speaker 1: the kids of today are now using digital cameras that 2046 01:46:26,960 --> 01:46:29,840 Speaker 1: they're finding in their mom's like and dad's drawers, and 2047 01:46:30,200 --> 01:46:34,080 Speaker 1: because they prefer that to using their phones. There it's 2048 01:46:34,360 --> 01:46:38,800 Speaker 1: ridging a saturation point of that's cute of nostalgia, but 2049 01:46:38,840 --> 01:46:42,280 Speaker 1: I guess every generation hits that. So whatever, good luck 2050 01:46:42,280 --> 01:46:44,120 Speaker 1: finding new digital tapes when you run out of the 2051 01:46:44,120 --> 01:46:45,680 Speaker 1: one that you're using that was in the camera to 2052 01:46:45,680 --> 01:46:49,559 Speaker 1: begin with your mom's closet. Just a warning to yeah, 2053 01:46:49,840 --> 01:46:53,160 Speaker 1: let's head Hines Field, where Mike Tomlin was looking to 2054 01:46:53,240 --> 01:46:56,679 Speaker 1: keep up one of the most impressive streaks in professional football. 2055 01:46:56,880 --> 01:47:00,519 Speaker 1: Pricket throws it down the middle, touchdown. George Pricke pick 2056 01:47:00,600 --> 01:47:03,680 Speaker 1: it to Pickens from thirty one out here, the Steelers 2057 01:47:03,840 --> 01:47:07,000 Speaker 1: in position to tie it up. This is what makes 2058 01:47:07,000 --> 01:47:11,520 Speaker 1: a quarterback on the edge of becoming a great quarterback. 2059 01:47:11,880 --> 01:47:17,280 Speaker 1: Oh look at that. That's Craig Wolflee something that Kenny 2060 01:47:17,320 --> 01:47:21,120 Speaker 1: Pickett is on the edge of becoming a great quarterback. 2061 01:47:21,240 --> 01:47:25,280 Speaker 1: Now you may or may not agree with Wolflee and 2062 01:47:25,439 --> 01:47:28,839 Speaker 1: Bill Hillgrove of w DV, but those are the vibes 2063 01:47:28,880 --> 01:47:34,599 Speaker 1: around the Pittsburgh Steelers after a season ending win over 2064 01:47:34,640 --> 01:47:39,400 Speaker 1: the Browns, the Jets losing again costs the Steelers a 2065 01:47:39,400 --> 01:47:42,040 Speaker 1: playoff spot. It's the Dolphins to take that seventh seed, 2066 01:47:42,080 --> 01:47:46,400 Speaker 1: but shook incredible way for it to them to wrap 2067 01:47:46,439 --> 01:47:48,920 Speaker 1: their season. And yes, or Mike Tomlin, he keeps that 2068 01:47:49,040 --> 01:47:52,599 Speaker 1: incredible streak of over five hundred seasons. They finished nine 2069 01:47:52,640 --> 01:47:55,280 Speaker 1: and eighty. This is the rebuilding here. This is supposed 2070 01:47:55,280 --> 01:47:57,120 Speaker 1: to be the transitional year for the Steelers, the first 2071 01:47:57,200 --> 01:47:59,840 Speaker 1: year without Ben Roethlisberger, the year that everything just fell 2072 01:47:59,880 --> 01:48:02,599 Speaker 1: a part, except they go nine and eight. He stays 2073 01:48:02,600 --> 01:48:05,840 Speaker 1: above five hundred in the season. He finishes there can 2074 01:48:05,840 --> 01:48:08,439 Speaker 1: he Picket is clearly the best quarterback on the roster. 2075 01:48:08,479 --> 01:48:09,920 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say he's on the edge of being 2076 01:48:09,920 --> 01:48:11,599 Speaker 1: a great quarterback because there's still a lot of things 2077 01:48:11,640 --> 01:48:13,439 Speaker 1: he's gotta work on. But you see the glimpses. You 2078 01:48:13,479 --> 01:48:16,559 Speaker 1: see the decisiveness, You see the fact that he's comfortable 2079 01:48:16,600 --> 01:48:18,360 Speaker 1: in the pocket and he knows what to do when 2080 01:48:18,360 --> 01:48:21,439 Speaker 1: he's under pressure. Let's think about this guy's They finished 2081 01:48:21,439 --> 01:48:23,439 Speaker 1: with a little bit over three hundred yards offense, three 2082 01:48:23,439 --> 01:48:26,400 Speaker 1: and thirty seven, nine and fifteen on third down. Yet 2083 01:48:26,479 --> 01:48:28,840 Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett finished with under two hundred passing yards and 2084 01:48:28,880 --> 01:48:31,280 Speaker 1: completely just thirteen passes. Do you know why they converted 2085 01:48:31,280 --> 01:48:35,080 Speaker 1: those third downs? Because Kenny pick It extended the play 2086 01:48:35,400 --> 01:48:39,200 Speaker 1: and found his It's not the stuff that you know, 2087 01:48:39,200 --> 01:48:41,320 Speaker 1: It's not the in between stuff where he overthrows a guy, 2088 01:48:41,400 --> 01:48:43,200 Speaker 1: or he misses a guy, or somebody drops the past 2089 01:48:43,240 --> 01:48:46,360 Speaker 1: Deante Johnson, Connor Heyward, a couple of those today. It's 2090 01:48:46,400 --> 01:48:48,719 Speaker 1: the stuff in the key downs, and that's what excites 2091 01:48:48,760 --> 01:48:50,160 Speaker 1: me about him. I'm not like I said, I'm not 2092 01:48:50,200 --> 01:48:52,120 Speaker 1: gonna say he's on the edge of being a great quarterback. 2093 01:48:52,240 --> 01:48:55,400 Speaker 1: But he's exciting and also exciting. George picking just three 2094 01:48:55,400 --> 01:48:58,000 Speaker 1: catches today, seventy two yards in that touchdown we just 2095 01:48:58,000 --> 01:49:00,559 Speaker 1: played on that highlight. That is a pairing. I cannot 2096 01:49:00,560 --> 01:49:02,800 Speaker 1: wait to see where they go because it's clear they 2097 01:49:02,800 --> 01:49:04,560 Speaker 1: already have that connection. They're just starting to work on 2098 01:49:04,600 --> 01:49:07,160 Speaker 1: those back shoulder fades down the sideline and George Pickens, 2099 01:49:07,200 --> 01:49:09,120 Speaker 1: as we all know at this point, is a freak 2100 01:49:09,200 --> 01:49:12,439 Speaker 1: of nature. If Kenny Picketts continues to develop at the 2101 01:49:12,479 --> 01:49:15,559 Speaker 1: speed he's at right now, and Pickens continues to rise 2102 01:49:15,640 --> 01:49:18,280 Speaker 1: up and get better over the years, man, they're gonna 2103 01:49:18,439 --> 01:49:20,200 Speaker 1: have se North butter watch out. That's gonna be quite 2104 01:49:20,200 --> 01:49:21,880 Speaker 1: a duo for years to come. So it's a really 2105 01:49:21,880 --> 01:49:24,200 Speaker 1: triumphant way for them to end the season, a season 2106 01:49:24,240 --> 01:49:26,839 Speaker 1: that nobody expected anything out of them. They avoid finishing 2107 01:49:26,840 --> 01:49:29,160 Speaker 1: in the cellar. They finish about five, and they got 2108 01:49:29,160 --> 01:49:30,639 Speaker 1: a lot to be excited. They also have some things 2109 01:49:30,640 --> 01:49:32,360 Speaker 1: they need to address in the off season, but man 2110 01:49:32,680 --> 01:49:35,439 Speaker 1: an organization that really knows how to keep things stable 2111 01:49:35,520 --> 01:49:37,560 Speaker 1: even when it looks like everything's against them. It's a 2112 01:49:37,680 --> 01:49:39,920 Speaker 1: very Brown's esque end of the season. I feel like 2113 01:49:39,960 --> 01:49:42,879 Speaker 1: they've lost to the Steelers in weeks seventeen slash eighteen 2114 01:49:43,160 --> 01:49:46,599 Speaker 1: like forty seven times. But it's a very Steelers skan 2115 01:49:46,720 --> 01:49:49,640 Speaker 1: because it's sort of to me, reminds me of what 2116 01:49:49,720 --> 01:49:52,240 Speaker 1: happened in Jacksonville a little bit, where you started off 2117 01:49:52,280 --> 01:49:54,719 Speaker 1: with an offense that just look completely lost at See 2118 01:49:55,160 --> 01:49:58,559 Speaker 1: here we are today. You've found a quarterback, you've found 2119 01:49:58,560 --> 01:50:00,720 Speaker 1: weapons around them, and off some line that was in 2120 01:50:00,800 --> 01:50:04,120 Speaker 1: tatters in the summer. They're not perfect, but they were competent. 2121 01:50:04,280 --> 01:50:06,880 Speaker 1: The running game grew, Nag Harris turned into something better 2122 01:50:06,960 --> 01:50:09,200 Speaker 1: than we thought. All these little pieces and they're all 2123 01:50:09,200 --> 01:50:11,920 Speaker 1: in the same contract essentially together, and you still have 2124 01:50:12,000 --> 01:50:14,000 Speaker 1: one of the best coaching staffs in the league that 2125 01:50:14,120 --> 01:50:16,719 Speaker 1: never that refused to die this season on any level. 2126 01:50:16,760 --> 01:50:19,519 Speaker 1: I love the Mike Tomlin like situation. I know there's 2127 01:50:19,560 --> 01:50:21,960 Speaker 1: some Steelers fans in the past like we need this 2128 01:50:21,960 --> 01:50:23,639 Speaker 1: guy out of here. He can't get us over the hunt. 2129 01:50:23,800 --> 01:50:26,439 Speaker 1: I'll take Mike. There have been that from Steelers fans 2130 01:50:26,600 --> 01:50:30,439 Speaker 1: absolutely hit me. Would take Tomlin over literally almost every 2131 01:50:30,439 --> 01:50:35,840 Speaker 1: conson what what what that sounds in real time? Like 2132 01:50:35,880 --> 01:50:37,439 Speaker 1: Greg does not agree, but I think you have to 2133 01:50:37,479 --> 01:50:44,240 Speaker 1: say straight non losing unbelievable. They should be the playoff 2134 01:50:44,280 --> 01:50:45,880 Speaker 1: team and the playoffs would be more fun with him 2135 01:50:45,880 --> 01:50:48,360 Speaker 1: in it. There seven and two in their last nine games. 2136 01:50:48,680 --> 01:50:51,800 Speaker 1: I've always thought it's a little underrated too. And your 2137 01:50:51,840 --> 01:50:54,400 Speaker 1: season with a win because like all the teams that 2138 01:50:54,439 --> 01:50:56,519 Speaker 1: make the playoffs don't get to do that except except 2139 01:50:56,560 --> 01:51:00,200 Speaker 1: for one, and the Steelers weren't gonna win the just 2140 01:51:00,240 --> 01:51:02,559 Speaker 1: say the Dealers, we're gonna win the super Bowl. They're 2141 01:51:02,560 --> 01:51:04,720 Speaker 1: gonna probably lose next week to the Bills, to to 2142 01:51:04,960 --> 01:51:07,080 Speaker 1: to to just end the season on a four game 2143 01:51:07,120 --> 01:51:09,160 Speaker 1: winning streak and like, oh we got robbed by what 2144 01:51:09,320 --> 01:51:12,160 Speaker 1: happened and stuff that feels great. I know they would 2145 01:51:12,320 --> 01:51:16,439 Speaker 1: rather go watch a playoff games. Huge success. The season 2146 01:51:16,680 --> 01:51:19,080 Speaker 1: is for what it was and what it was expected 2147 01:51:19,080 --> 01:51:20,320 Speaker 1: to be and what it seemed like it was going 2148 01:51:20,360 --> 01:51:23,000 Speaker 1: to be in October, a huge success and a lot 2149 01:51:23,040 --> 01:51:27,400 Speaker 1: of reasons, uh for optimism. Speaking of reasons for optimism 2150 01:51:27,439 --> 01:51:30,720 Speaker 1: shook you. You are a lifelong Browns fan. We talked 2151 01:51:30,720 --> 01:51:33,320 Speaker 1: about it on the Thursday podcast podcast a little bit. 2152 01:51:33,520 --> 01:51:36,799 Speaker 1: The Shawn Watson and his underwhelming start to his Brown's 2153 01:51:36,920 --> 01:51:40,960 Speaker 1: career and whether there was any reason for concern. What 2154 01:51:41,040 --> 01:51:42,840 Speaker 1: were your thoughts about his performance in this game and 2155 01:51:42,880 --> 01:51:46,200 Speaker 1: in general the six starts or whatever he made uh 2156 01:51:46,240 --> 01:51:49,840 Speaker 1: the season five starts. I mean, I'm not concerned necessarily 2157 01:51:49,840 --> 01:51:52,559 Speaker 1: with his play. I am concerned about the fit with 2158 01:51:52,560 --> 01:51:54,840 Speaker 1: the coaching staff, whether they know how to properly use 2159 01:51:54,880 --> 01:51:56,840 Speaker 1: his talents, because he's kind of shaken off a little 2160 01:51:56,840 --> 01:51:58,599 Speaker 1: bit of the rust with each week. He's not back 2161 01:51:58,600 --> 01:52:00,960 Speaker 1: to where he was still, but you see glimpses of 2162 01:52:01,000 --> 01:52:03,400 Speaker 1: it today. He had no time to throw all day. 2163 01:52:03,520 --> 01:52:05,599 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's defense, which was supposed to be their strength all 2164 01:52:05,640 --> 01:52:07,519 Speaker 1: year and wasn't for a good portion of it, but 2165 01:52:07,600 --> 01:52:10,920 Speaker 1: his very opportunistic got after him seven sacks. Could have 2166 01:52:11,000 --> 01:52:13,160 Speaker 1: had ten, maybe even twelve as a team, because he 2167 01:52:13,320 --> 01:52:15,559 Speaker 1: escaped four or five of them on his own. I mean, 2168 01:52:15,600 --> 01:52:18,720 Speaker 1: he's doing everything possible. He made a couple of bad 2169 01:52:18,080 --> 01:52:21,599 Speaker 1: thing forever like some of these sacks I thought were 2170 01:52:21,640 --> 01:52:24,160 Speaker 1: on him. Sacks are a QB stating to me that's 2171 01:52:24,160 --> 01:52:26,200 Speaker 1: been the number one problem he's had the last six 2172 01:52:26,240 --> 01:52:29,320 Speaker 1: weeks is he's holding the ball kind of like a 2173 01:52:29,400 --> 01:52:32,880 Speaker 1: rookie quarterback. And he's always been a little bit like that, 2174 01:52:32,880 --> 01:52:35,640 Speaker 1: but you haven't seen this spectacular plays to kind of 2175 01:52:35,640 --> 01:52:37,680 Speaker 1: offset that. Well. I mean, Greg, you can even go 2176 01:52:37,720 --> 01:52:39,400 Speaker 1: back to his time in Houston years ago. My biggest 2177 01:52:39,400 --> 01:52:40,880 Speaker 1: issue was him with the fact that he'd run out 2178 01:52:40,880 --> 01:52:42,840 Speaker 1: of clean pockets. That was not the case today, but 2179 01:52:42,920 --> 01:52:44,800 Speaker 1: that was his issue for a long time. So that's 2180 01:52:44,800 --> 01:52:46,280 Speaker 1: where I go to with the fit. I don't know 2181 01:52:46,320 --> 01:52:48,840 Speaker 1: if necessarily this offense is really fit for him. If 2182 01:52:48,920 --> 01:52:50,920 Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski in the way that it's set up, I'm 2183 01:52:50,960 --> 01:52:52,760 Speaker 1: telling you they're gonna make a change of defense Qarter. 2184 01:52:52,800 --> 01:52:54,280 Speaker 1: I think they have to at this point based on 2185 01:52:54,320 --> 01:52:56,639 Speaker 1: how they played for the majority of the season. I'm 2186 01:52:56,640 --> 01:52:59,519 Speaker 1: not saying he's gonna get fired, but I understand that 2187 01:52:59,640 --> 01:53:03,200 Speaker 1: Kevin's Ifanski should be under fire for the way that 2188 01:53:03,200 --> 01:53:05,320 Speaker 1: this team performed this year, especially in key moments. He 2189 01:53:05,320 --> 01:53:07,120 Speaker 1: looked like he just didn't have a good grasp on 2190 01:53:07,240 --> 01:53:09,680 Speaker 1: game management, and I'm just really curious, a little bit 2191 01:53:09,680 --> 01:53:11,920 Speaker 1: concerned about how they proceed from here with him and 2192 01:53:11,960 --> 01:53:13,920 Speaker 1: Watson as a pairing. It shows you because I mean, 2193 01:53:13,920 --> 01:53:15,160 Speaker 1: this was a Coach of the Year a couple of 2194 01:53:15,200 --> 01:53:17,960 Speaker 1: years ago. Everything looked like sky is the limit. They've 2195 01:53:17,960 --> 01:53:20,599 Speaker 1: beating the Steelers and the playoffs, and where they are now. 2196 01:53:20,640 --> 01:53:22,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I think a lot of this can be 2197 01:53:22,240 --> 01:53:25,320 Speaker 1: put on Stefanski. Obviously, I think Joe Woods history, but 2198 01:53:25,960 --> 01:53:28,360 Speaker 1: in house, I wonder what if they wonder what you're wondering. 2199 01:53:28,479 --> 01:53:32,000 Speaker 1: Is Stefanski in his scheme the right fit for Unfortunately 2200 01:53:32,000 --> 01:53:34,280 Speaker 1: this massive investment that we've made, and it's like he's 2201 01:53:34,320 --> 01:53:37,519 Speaker 1: gonna that investment has power over the coaching staff. Well, 2202 01:53:37,560 --> 01:53:41,320 Speaker 1: Jimmy Haslem took over Brown's ownership ten years ago now, 2203 01:53:41,479 --> 01:53:43,960 Speaker 1: so the length of this podcast, what a ten years 2204 01:53:43,960 --> 01:53:47,400 Speaker 1: it's been. He's the team is fifty four one oh 2205 01:53:47,439 --> 01:53:52,800 Speaker 1: six and one since then. That's the second worst Mark 2206 01:53:52,840 --> 01:53:54,240 Speaker 1: in the lake. I wish I knew her, the worst 2207 01:53:54,280 --> 01:53:57,719 Speaker 1: of guess he's a Jaguars probably my team, um Mark 2208 01:53:58,040 --> 01:54:00,439 Speaker 1: uh one last thought, you are the number and Bernie 2209 01:54:00,479 --> 01:54:03,160 Speaker 1: cos our supporter. He's in somebody's You're sorry, good father? 2210 01:54:04,200 --> 01:54:07,240 Speaker 1: Your thoughts on him being dismissed from the team's radio 2211 01:54:07,280 --> 01:54:11,120 Speaker 1: broadcast team on Sunday. Earlier in the week, he plays 2212 01:54:11,160 --> 01:54:14,439 Speaker 1: a bet on the Browns to win the game. Did 2213 01:54:14,479 --> 01:54:16,479 Speaker 1: he talk about it or something? I don't know, but 2214 01:54:16,520 --> 01:54:21,000 Speaker 1: I just want to But I think it's unfortunate. Um it. 2215 01:54:21,360 --> 01:54:24,639 Speaker 1: You know, you're essentially an NFL league employee when you're 2216 01:54:24,840 --> 01:54:26,800 Speaker 1: operating out of that and we've seen that way and 2217 01:54:27,160 --> 01:54:29,840 Speaker 1: you break a clear league policy. We all we all 2218 01:54:29,840 --> 01:54:32,280 Speaker 1: know about that. I didn't find it interesting that it 2219 01:54:32,320 --> 01:54:35,200 Speaker 1: was reported he bet nineteen thousand, which is his his number. 2220 01:54:35,240 --> 01:54:37,640 Speaker 1: Of course, his jersey on the Browns tell me that 2221 01:54:37,640 --> 01:54:39,680 Speaker 1: Bernie has that much money floating around that he should 2222 01:54:39,680 --> 01:54:42,640 Speaker 1: be making it. Well, he doesn't now after not winning that. 2223 01:54:43,800 --> 01:54:46,680 Speaker 1: But you know what, Bernie kosar. I love Bernie cos right. 2224 01:54:46,680 --> 01:54:48,880 Speaker 1: I also locked this game up. I locked it up 2225 01:54:48,920 --> 01:54:52,360 Speaker 1: for Bernie kind of on the same Oh. No, he 2226 01:54:52,440 --> 01:54:54,560 Speaker 1: was picking the Browns, so you were not the same page. 2227 01:54:54,600 --> 01:54:56,960 Speaker 1: That's good. No, we don't know whether he did he 2228 01:54:57,160 --> 01:54:59,080 Speaker 1: wager on the Browns or do we just know we 2229 01:54:59,120 --> 01:55:06,920 Speaker 1: waged on the game. The Steelers. We're the worst team 2230 01:55:07,000 --> 01:55:10,120 Speaker 1: over the last ten years. A former researcher and now 2231 01:55:10,320 --> 01:55:13,920 Speaker 1: seven ft nine producer Drew Christensen has confirmed to me 2232 01:55:14,000 --> 01:55:16,560 Speaker 1: he can't let go. Drew, by the way, I emailed 2233 01:55:17,160 --> 01:55:20,720 Speaker 1: the research team privately um earlier today to get some 2234 01:55:20,760 --> 01:55:24,480 Speaker 1: information and then he comes in on my I am 2235 01:55:24,560 --> 01:55:27,160 Speaker 1: clients and like, hey, dummy, you should have known this 2236 01:55:27,320 --> 01:55:29,680 Speaker 1: or something like that. I'm like, bro, you gotta let go. 2237 01:55:29,760 --> 01:55:33,320 Speaker 1: You're not in the research department anymore. And I could 2238 01:55:33,400 --> 01:55:36,840 Speaker 1: keep talking about Drew right now because he never talks. No, 2239 01:55:36,920 --> 01:55:38,360 Speaker 1: he's not you know, you can say anything to get 2240 01:55:38,360 --> 01:55:40,760 Speaker 1: a camera on him, like all eight foot four of him. 2241 01:55:41,160 --> 01:55:44,360 Speaker 1: He's just gonna just you know, stew and maybe squash 2242 01:55:44,440 --> 01:55:48,160 Speaker 1: me after the show. Anyway, it's happened before there is, Drew, 2243 01:55:48,240 --> 01:55:50,040 Speaker 1: do you have anything to say? This is your chance. 2244 01:55:50,040 --> 01:55:53,440 Speaker 1: It's week eight team to finally clap back at the 2245 01:55:53,480 --> 01:55:58,080 Speaker 1: bozos on the side of the glass, motionless and side. 2246 01:55:58,160 --> 01:56:00,000 Speaker 1: You know what's good though, if it ever comes down 2247 01:56:00,000 --> 01:56:02,880 Speaker 1: into it and it's like on air versus behind the 2248 01:56:02,920 --> 01:56:07,720 Speaker 1: Glass showdown, we've got shook on our team. And and 2249 01:56:07,920 --> 01:56:12,040 Speaker 1: the nice transition there, Greggy the pipe all season and 2250 01:56:12,040 --> 01:56:14,720 Speaker 1: it's it's been a few years now. You've been awesome 2251 01:56:14,760 --> 01:56:17,760 Speaker 1: and a great asset for us helping to cover all 2252 01:56:17,800 --> 01:56:20,920 Speaker 1: these Sunday games. So as another regular season comes to 2253 01:56:20,920 --> 01:56:24,520 Speaker 1: a close, we sincerely thank you, sir. I think you're 2254 01:56:24,520 --> 01:56:28,240 Speaker 1: getting better every year you do this, and uh, you're 2255 01:56:28,280 --> 01:56:31,120 Speaker 1: a stud, buddy, so thank you very much. You know 2256 01:56:31,120 --> 01:56:34,960 Speaker 1: what my parting words will be this um. As a 2257 01:56:35,040 --> 01:56:38,400 Speaker 1: league employee, I do not condone betting on games. However, 2258 01:56:39,240 --> 01:56:41,520 Speaker 1: if my life depended on it, I would always bet 2259 01:56:41,560 --> 01:56:45,240 Speaker 1: on you guys. Okay, well now you're fired, but I'm 2260 01:56:45,280 --> 01:56:50,240 Speaker 1: glad it's pretty clearly laid out in the in the guidelines. 2261 01:56:50,240 --> 01:56:53,040 Speaker 1: But Chookie, thank you very much, buddy, have a great night, 2262 01:56:53,080 --> 01:56:56,720 Speaker 1: get a lift in and thanks. Thanks, We love you, 2263 01:56:56,760 --> 01:57:01,440 Speaker 1: all right, we'll be right back after this. All right, 2264 01:57:01,480 --> 01:57:06,840 Speaker 1: welcome back. Let's head to Denver for a a f 2265 01:57:06,920 --> 01:57:09,480 Speaker 1: C West matchup that had nothing on the line, and 2266 01:57:09,560 --> 01:57:13,280 Speaker 1: yet people were talking all throughout the contest. Will tell 2267 01:57:13,280 --> 01:57:17,040 Speaker 1: you why. First, this play, Fate Russ rolls trees right, 2268 01:57:17,120 --> 01:57:22,960 Speaker 1: throws about wide open receiver Conn seton touchdown Denver twenty 2269 01:57:23,080 --> 01:57:28,520 Speaker 1: yards Russell Wilson to Cartland Sutton. Sutton's second touchdown reception 2270 01:57:28,640 --> 01:57:34,240 Speaker 1: of the season, and he was wide open. Miserable season 2271 01:57:34,240 --> 01:57:36,120 Speaker 1: for the Broncos. We all know that. But and there's 2272 01:57:36,200 --> 01:57:39,520 Speaker 1: Dave Logan ko A, the fact that Russell Wilson showed 2273 01:57:39,520 --> 01:57:41,320 Speaker 1: a little bit of a pulse these last couple of 2274 01:57:41,320 --> 01:57:44,240 Speaker 1: weeks of the season. Um, well, I want to go 2275 01:57:44,280 --> 01:57:46,920 Speaker 1: that far, but it's better than the opposite where he 2276 01:57:46,960 --> 01:57:50,520 Speaker 1: finishes with eight touchdown passes or something. So maybe something, 2277 01:57:50,680 --> 01:57:55,680 Speaker 1: and you also get a win over the Chargers. And 2278 01:57:55,760 --> 01:57:59,919 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson had three touchdown passes in the game. Greggy, 2279 01:58:00,120 --> 01:58:02,040 Speaker 1: you watch this game, and what I was alluding to 2280 01:58:02,320 --> 01:58:07,400 Speaker 1: was the Chargers were based on the Ravens Bengals outcome earlier, 2281 01:58:07,400 --> 01:58:09,760 Speaker 1: were locked into the five seed. There was a thought 2282 01:58:09,840 --> 01:58:11,560 Speaker 1: that a lot of the starters wouldn't play, and not 2283 01:58:11,600 --> 01:58:14,160 Speaker 1: only did a lot of Chargers starters play, they played 2284 01:58:14,160 --> 01:58:16,000 Speaker 1: deep into the game and one of their key players 2285 01:58:16,040 --> 01:58:18,160 Speaker 1: left on a cart. So a lot of criticism for 2286 01:58:18,160 --> 01:58:20,360 Speaker 1: the head coach, Brendan Staley. Yeah, Mike Williams has a 2287 01:58:20,400 --> 01:58:24,360 Speaker 1: back injury. Ian Rapports said X rays were negative, that 2288 01:58:24,400 --> 01:58:27,440 Speaker 1: they'll be tests on Monday. It didn't look great, although 2289 01:58:27,520 --> 01:58:29,480 Speaker 1: Staley said in the post game that he could have 2290 01:58:29,560 --> 01:58:32,280 Speaker 1: maybe returned to the game. Mike Williams Joey Boast was 2291 01:58:32,320 --> 01:58:34,600 Speaker 1: also shaken up and then just didn't return, but that 2292 01:58:34,640 --> 01:58:39,200 Speaker 1: one didn't seem serious. The starters were pulled by Staley 2293 01:58:39,240 --> 01:58:43,360 Speaker 1: with the score thirty one to twenty Broncos with eleven 2294 01:58:43,400 --> 01:58:47,360 Speaker 1: minutes left. That I'm counting starters as Herbert, but they 2295 01:58:47,360 --> 01:58:50,200 Speaker 1: weren't all the starters, I mean left in the second quarter, 2296 01:58:50,280 --> 01:58:53,920 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, in the fourth quarter, so they 2297 01:58:54,000 --> 01:58:56,400 Speaker 1: kind of got they got the worst of both worlds, 2298 01:58:56,480 --> 01:58:59,640 Speaker 1: which is they've tried to win the game, but the 2299 01:58:59,720 --> 01:59:02,040 Speaker 1: bron goes and old Russ was putting it on him. 2300 01:59:02,280 --> 01:59:05,400 Speaker 1: Here looking at throwing the run to Judy, that's old Russ. 2301 01:59:05,400 --> 01:59:07,760 Speaker 1: So it was crazy. That throw you're talking about was 2302 01:59:07,840 --> 01:59:10,520 Speaker 1: part of a three place, seventy five yard touchdown drive 2303 01:59:10,560 --> 01:59:13,240 Speaker 1: with twenty five seconds left in the first half. When 2304 01:59:13,240 --> 01:59:15,960 Speaker 1: that drive started again twenty five seconds left in the 2305 01:59:16,000 --> 01:59:19,000 Speaker 1: first half, Russ had fourteen passing yards. So it was 2306 01:59:19,000 --> 01:59:21,360 Speaker 1: the rest of all they were running the ball a 2307 01:59:21,360 --> 01:59:25,880 Speaker 1: little bittan context. But but then he finished with two 2308 01:59:25,920 --> 01:59:28,320 Speaker 1: eighty three and three. He suddenly had bombs away. He 2309 01:59:28,320 --> 01:59:33,920 Speaker 1: had three of those beautiful Russell bombs, and down the 2310 01:59:33,960 --> 01:59:36,520 Speaker 1: stretch of this game and the Chargers defense, who were 2311 01:59:36,560 --> 01:59:39,720 Speaker 1: playing all their best players kind of got steamrolled by 2312 01:59:39,800 --> 01:59:43,200 Speaker 1: Latavius Murray and Russell Wilson. So it all was strange, 2313 01:59:43,240 --> 01:59:47,080 Speaker 1: and so is Stealey's explanation afterwards where he said that 2314 01:59:47,120 --> 01:59:49,480 Speaker 1: you only have so many players with two only two 2315 01:59:49,480 --> 01:59:52,320 Speaker 1: practice squad elevations. Other playoff teams had to play their 2316 01:59:52,320 --> 01:59:56,200 Speaker 1: best players today as well. These aren't easy decisions in hindsight, 2317 01:59:56,240 --> 01:59:59,480 Speaker 1: it's perfect for everyone to design. No, that's not really 2318 01:59:59,560 --> 02:00:01,720 Speaker 1: that doesn't ride with me because you can't say things 2319 02:00:01,760 --> 02:00:04,000 Speaker 1: like every other playoff team was dealing with this and 2320 02:00:04,040 --> 02:00:05,560 Speaker 1: doing it the same way. It's like, no, they weren't. 2321 02:00:05,880 --> 02:00:08,400 Speaker 1: We We we saw all across the league that teams 2322 02:00:08,400 --> 02:00:11,680 Speaker 1: weren't doing that. Giants played with as we mentioned, like 2323 02:00:11,720 --> 02:00:13,880 Speaker 1: the two tight end personnel of the whole game, because 2324 02:00:13,880 --> 02:00:15,640 Speaker 1: they didn't want to play their wide receivers. Right. The 2325 02:00:15,680 --> 02:00:17,520 Speaker 1: one thing is, because I think there's been a little 2326 02:00:17,520 --> 02:00:19,640 Speaker 1: bit of a pattern, we we kind of questioned the 2327 02:00:19,760 --> 02:00:22,720 Speaker 1: use of Herbert afterwards, hurt keenan Allen got put back 2328 02:00:22,720 --> 02:00:24,520 Speaker 1: in a little prematurely and got dinged up. And we've 2329 02:00:24,560 --> 02:00:26,800 Speaker 1: seen how difference this all, how different this whole thing 2330 02:00:26,840 --> 02:00:30,040 Speaker 1: is when either Keenan Allen or Mike Williams are not available, 2331 02:00:30,040 --> 02:00:31,680 Speaker 1: and so this is a worst case scenario of Mike 2332 02:00:31,760 --> 02:00:34,280 Speaker 1: Wimmen's where ever not available next week. It's trending in 2333 02:00:34,280 --> 02:00:36,920 Speaker 1: a good direction. But I I just I, you know, 2334 02:00:37,000 --> 02:00:38,280 Speaker 1: I get it. You're the coach. You can do whatever 2335 02:00:38,320 --> 02:00:40,200 Speaker 1: you want. Maybe the players are telling you we want 2336 02:00:40,240 --> 02:00:41,840 Speaker 1: to play. I get all that, but it's like the 2337 02:00:41,960 --> 02:00:44,560 Speaker 1: only thing that matters when they started this game, because 2338 02:00:44,560 --> 02:00:46,000 Speaker 1: they were locked in with with where they were going 2339 02:00:46,080 --> 02:00:48,880 Speaker 1: to go is next week, right I And I was, 2340 02:00:49,280 --> 02:00:53,080 Speaker 1: I was walking through town on Friday, and all of 2341 02:00:53,120 --> 02:00:55,000 Speaker 1: a sudden, I hear a very familiar voice, and it 2342 02:00:55,120 --> 02:00:59,040 Speaker 1: just so happens that Matt money Smith, on his very 2343 02:00:59,040 --> 02:01:02,920 Speaker 1: popular drivetime radio show here in Los Angeles, was doing 2344 02:01:02,960 --> 02:01:06,360 Speaker 1: a live show from this place called Rock and Bruise. 2345 02:01:06,400 --> 02:01:09,720 Speaker 1: And I ducked in there and I chatted with Money 2346 02:01:09,720 --> 02:01:12,040 Speaker 1: and we were talking Chargers, of course, the former voice 2347 02:01:12,040 --> 02:01:13,680 Speaker 1: of God on this show and also the voice of 2348 02:01:13,720 --> 02:01:17,400 Speaker 1: the Chargers now. And he was he was optimistic. You know, 2349 02:01:18,360 --> 02:01:20,720 Speaker 1: he gets extra guap the deeper they go in the playoffs. 2350 02:01:21,120 --> 02:01:23,720 Speaker 1: That's his money for a reason. So he he wants 2351 02:01:23,720 --> 02:01:25,800 Speaker 1: a d playoff run for a lot of reasons. And 2352 02:01:25,840 --> 02:01:28,840 Speaker 1: he was saying, we're healthy, like this team has a chance, 2353 02:01:28,840 --> 02:01:31,320 Speaker 1: they're fun. And then I was talking. I was at 2354 02:01:31,360 --> 02:01:34,800 Speaker 1: a barbershop yesterday and I was talking to George Jags 2355 02:01:34,800 --> 02:01:39,320 Speaker 1: barbershop in Westchester, and he is a huge Chargers fan, 2356 02:01:39,400 --> 02:01:41,280 Speaker 1: and we were having the conversation that they're healthy. It's like, 2357 02:01:41,680 --> 02:01:44,000 Speaker 1: but this is a Star Cross team. Something always seems 2358 02:01:44,000 --> 02:01:46,040 Speaker 1: to happen. And that's all I could think today while 2359 02:01:46,080 --> 02:01:48,800 Speaker 1: we're leaving these players in and Mike Williams is getting carded, like, 2360 02:01:49,160 --> 02:01:52,200 Speaker 1: be smart, Chargers, don't let the football gods come for you. 2361 02:01:52,240 --> 02:01:55,480 Speaker 1: Don't give him extra chances. So ultimately, George the salon 2362 02:01:55,560 --> 02:02:00,880 Speaker 1: man knew more than barber shop the barber. He knew 2363 02:02:00,920 --> 02:02:04,640 Speaker 1: more than Matt money Smith, the played by a salon. No, 2364 02:02:05,480 --> 02:02:08,200 Speaker 1: I'm in assuming a salon is typically not somewhere for me. 2365 02:02:08,440 --> 02:02:13,960 Speaker 1: But you also saw a broadcaster I enjoy very much 2366 02:02:14,000 --> 02:02:17,080 Speaker 1: in Petros and uh you did I let him know 2367 02:02:17,120 --> 02:02:18,840 Speaker 1: that you're a I said, just let him know him. 2368 02:02:18,840 --> 02:02:21,040 Speaker 1: I really love his style and what he does, and 2369 02:02:21,080 --> 02:02:25,120 Speaker 1: it sounded like his response was, um, incredibly underwhelmed. Well 2370 02:02:25,480 --> 02:02:27,240 Speaker 1: it was. Then it left me with a bad taste 2371 02:02:27,240 --> 02:02:29,120 Speaker 1: in my mouth on that text thread because it was 2372 02:02:29,160 --> 02:02:30,800 Speaker 1: just like you were kind of sticking it to me. 2373 02:02:31,320 --> 02:02:33,680 Speaker 1: I know. That's why I worried when I saw your 2374 02:02:33,720 --> 02:02:36,280 Speaker 1: replies like, oh no, Mark took it a certain way. Well, 2375 02:02:36,360 --> 02:02:38,480 Speaker 1: I know you're a big fan Petros and Money again 2376 02:02:38,520 --> 02:02:42,040 Speaker 1: the Big Drive Time team here on five seventy am 2377 02:02:42,160 --> 02:02:46,160 Speaker 1: Radio here. Um. For some reason, I felt compelled when 2378 02:02:46,160 --> 02:02:48,120 Speaker 1: I met him to almost immediately tell him that you 2379 02:02:48,160 --> 02:02:50,120 Speaker 1: were a huge fan. And I think I caught him 2380 02:02:50,160 --> 02:02:52,520 Speaker 1: off guard because why would this guy that he just 2381 02:02:52,640 --> 02:02:55,600 Speaker 1: met then be like, oh, my friend loves you and 2382 02:02:55,640 --> 02:02:58,040 Speaker 1: he was like, oh cool. So when I wrote, oh 2383 02:02:58,160 --> 02:03:01,280 Speaker 1: cool is what he said, Um, you took it as 2384 02:03:01,360 --> 02:03:05,120 Speaker 1: like him being like oh cool. But over text you 2385 02:03:05,120 --> 02:03:07,520 Speaker 1: cannot tell what the tone is and the tone the 2386 02:03:07,600 --> 02:03:10,040 Speaker 1: verbiage was, you know, clipped. You know my mom says, 2387 02:03:10,240 --> 02:03:12,560 Speaker 1: no good deed goes unpunished. I was just trying to 2388 02:03:12,600 --> 02:03:15,120 Speaker 1: do you a solid, and look who catches fire all 2389 02:03:15,120 --> 02:03:17,760 Speaker 1: to him? I don't, I don't. I don't talk about 2390 02:03:17,800 --> 02:03:19,560 Speaker 1: sinking over this one. I suppose it was a good deed, 2391 02:03:19,680 --> 02:03:22,840 Speaker 1: Like did they have you on the show? Uh? No, 2392 02:03:23,480 --> 02:03:25,080 Speaker 1: you think I'm not going on I'm not talking to 2393 02:03:25,160 --> 02:03:28,520 Speaker 1: a mic, not the thing, and they don't have you 2394 02:03:28,560 --> 02:03:30,880 Speaker 1: on you know that's with Matt money Smith for that's 2395 02:03:31,240 --> 02:03:34,400 Speaker 1: a sports radio. They had a King's like defenceman on there. 2396 02:03:34,440 --> 02:03:37,040 Speaker 1: They're chopping things up. I have no idea what's going 2397 02:03:37,080 --> 02:03:40,560 Speaker 1: on in l a sports Hey Grave digger you you 2398 02:03:40,560 --> 02:03:43,560 Speaker 1: were saying. Sorry, I didn't mean to derail that very 2399 02:03:43,600 --> 02:03:48,360 Speaker 1: interesting conversation. Um, I just wanted to remind everyone. It 2400 02:03:48,360 --> 02:03:51,360 Speaker 1: feels like forever ago that Justin Herbert suffered that ribbon dream. 2401 02:03:51,400 --> 02:03:54,200 Speaker 1: We're all wondering why Brandon Staley left him in the 2402 02:03:54,240 --> 02:03:56,040 Speaker 1: game as long as he did. It seems like he 2403 02:03:56,040 --> 02:04:01,400 Speaker 1: didn't learn from whatever happened earlier in this season. It's 2404 02:04:01,480 --> 02:04:03,320 Speaker 1: very Yeah, it's also weird because they're one of the 2405 02:04:03,360 --> 02:04:05,520 Speaker 1: teams that were at the forefront of like never play 2406 02:04:05,640 --> 02:04:10,240 Speaker 1: any players in the preseason. So I'm almost less concerned 2407 02:04:10,280 --> 02:04:14,040 Speaker 1: about uh that he played everyone. That was really annoying. 2408 02:04:14,200 --> 02:04:18,200 Speaker 1: And and if Mike Williams is, you know, compromise next week, 2409 02:04:18,200 --> 02:04:20,520 Speaker 1: then that would be the biggest problem. But also like 2410 02:04:20,600 --> 02:04:22,600 Speaker 1: he wanted to, like in theory, I think keep the 2411 02:04:22,600 --> 02:04:25,760 Speaker 1: winning vibes going. That was the idea, and they lost 2412 02:04:25,800 --> 02:04:27,560 Speaker 1: the game to the Broncos, and it wasn't the backups 2413 02:04:27,560 --> 02:04:29,320 Speaker 1: that lost, it was the starters that lost. Fans of 2414 02:04:29,680 --> 02:04:32,720 Speaker 1: somewhat recent football history will remember the ultimate and nuts 2415 02:04:32,720 --> 02:04:34,640 Speaker 1: bringing up again because and I'm gonna talk about forty 2416 02:04:34,640 --> 02:04:37,120 Speaker 1: two Greg, and I'm not doing it on purpose, but 2417 02:04:37,240 --> 02:04:40,360 Speaker 1: the ultimate flex in this mode was when Tom Coughlin 2418 02:04:40,400 --> 02:04:43,760 Speaker 1: in Week seventeen or eighteen, when the Patriots were going 2419 02:04:43,800 --> 02:04:46,840 Speaker 1: for the perfect season on New Year's Eve, um the 2420 02:04:46,880 --> 02:04:50,360 Speaker 1: Giants were already locked into a wild card spot. Coughlin said, 2421 02:04:50,400 --> 02:04:53,200 Speaker 1: I'm playing everybody and we're trying to knock off the 2422 02:04:53,240 --> 02:04:56,440 Speaker 1: undefeated Patriots in a very Tom Coughlin type move, and 2423 02:04:56,480 --> 02:04:59,240 Speaker 1: they played this this gorgeous back and forth shootout that 2424 02:04:59,240 --> 02:05:01,720 Speaker 1: the Patriots held down for the win. But it did 2425 02:05:01,960 --> 02:05:04,240 Speaker 1: really did, I think, and they talk about it now, 2426 02:05:04,280 --> 02:05:06,280 Speaker 1: and I think it was true. It It kind of 2427 02:05:06,320 --> 02:05:09,200 Speaker 1: really elevated the Giants, not just through the NFC playoffs, 2428 02:05:09,240 --> 02:05:11,560 Speaker 1: but when they saw the Pats again and the Super Bowl, 2429 02:05:11,840 --> 02:05:14,240 Speaker 1: they felt confident we could beat them. They're not unbeatable, 2430 02:05:14,560 --> 02:05:16,880 Speaker 1: but usually you just gotta use common sense and be 2431 02:05:16,920 --> 02:05:18,960 Speaker 1: smarter about it. I guess we're talking about it maybe 2432 02:05:18,960 --> 02:05:21,280 Speaker 1: a little too much because something that bad happened, but 2433 02:05:21,440 --> 02:05:24,520 Speaker 1: it was interesting Before Kauughland, Vince Lombardi did the same 2434 02:05:24,560 --> 02:05:27,760 Speaker 1: thing in a very critical situation at the end of 2435 02:05:27,760 --> 02:05:29,680 Speaker 1: the season and staid it was one of his favorite 2436 02:05:30,360 --> 02:05:33,280 Speaker 1: days of coaching, one of his greatest coaching experiences to 2437 02:05:33,320 --> 02:05:35,080 Speaker 1: have as guys go out there when it didn't matter 2438 02:05:35,320 --> 02:05:37,040 Speaker 1: and to go do it anyways, they lost the game, 2439 02:05:37,080 --> 02:05:39,760 Speaker 1: but it's like I Belicheck did it on the regular 2440 02:05:39,960 --> 02:05:43,680 Speaker 1: I mean, people will lose their minds results, the results 2441 02:05:43,720 --> 02:05:47,560 Speaker 1: not good. West Welker blew out his knee meaningless week eighteen, 2442 02:05:47,640 --> 02:05:51,200 Speaker 1: that that was unfortunate. We should mention quickly to Sean 2443 02:05:51,240 --> 02:05:56,840 Speaker 1: Payton confirmed he spoke to Broncos ownership about the head 2444 02:05:56,840 --> 02:06:01,240 Speaker 1: coaching vacancy. He can't officially interview of the job for 2445 02:06:02,040 --> 02:06:05,240 Speaker 1: another week and a half because the league rules because 2446 02:06:05,240 --> 02:06:07,520 Speaker 1: he's still under contract with the Saints. You have to 2447 02:06:07,520 --> 02:06:09,800 Speaker 1: wait until after the wild card round. What are they 2448 02:06:09,800 --> 02:06:11,440 Speaker 1: going to trade? I don't even have any first round 2449 02:06:11,440 --> 02:06:13,920 Speaker 1: picks here, Well, they have future first round picks, and 2450 02:06:14,000 --> 02:06:18,600 Speaker 1: rap Sheet reported that conversations happened about the trade and 2451 02:06:18,640 --> 02:06:22,640 Speaker 1: that that part of the situation may already be settled 2452 02:06:22,760 --> 02:06:25,840 Speaker 1: the trade part, so we'll see if gets a better off. 2453 02:06:26,000 --> 02:06:29,080 Speaker 1: But we have Peyton, who's been biding his time with 2454 02:06:29,160 --> 02:06:33,920 Speaker 1: Fox this year obviously talking about the conversation with the Broncos. 2455 02:06:34,440 --> 02:06:37,760 Speaker 1: Any team that would want to inquire or speak with 2456 02:06:37,800 --> 02:06:39,800 Speaker 1: me can do so. They just need permission from the 2457 02:06:39,800 --> 02:06:43,000 Speaker 1: Saints UM and then down the road, if that's something 2458 02:06:43,040 --> 02:06:47,640 Speaker 1: that materializes into anything else, then there would be compensation required, 2459 02:06:47,720 --> 02:06:50,480 Speaker 1: much like a player trade. Denver's the first team and 2460 02:06:50,760 --> 02:06:54,000 Speaker 1: I was able to have a conversation with their owner 2461 02:06:54,600 --> 02:06:56,960 Speaker 1: and uh, that's kind of the protocol, So would go 2462 02:06:57,040 --> 02:07:01,200 Speaker 1: team to the Saints. Uh, and then the interview process 2463 02:07:01,240 --> 02:07:04,600 Speaker 1: can't officially begin until the seventeenth of this month. So 2464 02:07:05,040 --> 02:07:08,480 Speaker 1: that's really works at I mean one word leverage, right, 2465 02:07:08,600 --> 02:07:11,440 Speaker 1: and this is where we think Sean Payton wants to go. Well, 2466 02:07:11,600 --> 02:07:14,120 Speaker 1: will we have other options? We'll find out. It actually 2467 02:07:14,120 --> 02:07:17,360 Speaker 1: occurred to me during this game, like is Staley worried 2468 02:07:17,400 --> 02:07:20,160 Speaker 1: about Sean Payton? So he's still trying to win games 2469 02:07:20,200 --> 02:07:22,560 Speaker 1: because Sean Payton's made it awfully clear he wants that 2470 02:07:22,840 --> 02:07:26,400 Speaker 1: Chargers job the more. The most interesting thing Sean Payton 2471 02:07:26,400 --> 02:07:28,720 Speaker 1: said when he spoke to our Peter Schraeger there on 2472 02:07:28,800 --> 02:07:32,000 Speaker 1: Fox was quarterback would not be the most important thing 2473 02:07:32,080 --> 02:07:35,480 Speaker 1: to him. Ownership and the GM and the structure. That's 2474 02:07:35,480 --> 02:07:37,760 Speaker 1: what matters to me. When I arrived in New Orleans, 2475 02:07:37,920 --> 02:07:40,760 Speaker 1: we didn't have a quarterback. He basically saying, I can 2476 02:07:40,800 --> 02:07:43,800 Speaker 1: make the quarterback thing work. I'm worried about the owner 2477 02:07:44,160 --> 02:07:46,800 Speaker 1: and I and you know what will always have They 2478 02:07:46,800 --> 02:07:49,560 Speaker 1: have money and what does Walmart have? All the money? 2479 02:07:49,880 --> 02:07:52,720 Speaker 1: The money and as bad as like. We've talked about 2480 02:07:52,760 --> 02:07:54,920 Speaker 1: the Russell Wilson's side of this and why it would 2481 02:07:54,920 --> 02:07:57,440 Speaker 1: make it messy for someone going there. But I think 2482 02:07:57,480 --> 02:07:59,440 Speaker 1: you could maybe even get out of that contract in 2483 02:07:59,440 --> 02:08:03,040 Speaker 1: another year if it ends up being terrible. He's if 2484 02:08:03,120 --> 02:08:05,760 Speaker 1: you're going to Denver as a head coach, you need 2485 02:08:05,880 --> 02:08:08,280 Speaker 1: you've got to be a high, high quality guy with 2486 02:08:08,320 --> 02:08:11,760 Speaker 1: a resume to have some rope uh to survive a 2487 02:08:11,800 --> 02:08:14,760 Speaker 1: potential bad Russell Wilson here too, it makes a little 2488 02:08:14,760 --> 02:08:18,000 Speaker 1: more sense. That's a great city, great fan base, great history, 2489 02:08:18,240 --> 02:08:20,000 Speaker 1: and new ownership. We don't know about them, but they've 2490 02:08:20,000 --> 02:08:21,839 Speaker 1: got a ton of money they'll spend to make the Broncos. 2491 02:08:21,920 --> 02:08:23,800 Speaker 1: Outside of the Russell Wilson contract which you're right. I 2492 02:08:23,840 --> 02:08:25,240 Speaker 1: think at some point you make a decision. If it's 2493 02:08:25,240 --> 02:08:27,480 Speaker 1: not working, you move on. Everything else about the Denver 2494 02:08:27,520 --> 02:08:29,600 Speaker 1: Broncos I think would appeal to Sean Payton, right, and 2495 02:08:29,640 --> 02:08:31,640 Speaker 1: he wants to coach, and I'm not sure other than 2496 02:08:31,760 --> 02:08:35,760 Speaker 1: possibly the Rams where he could have an opportunity. So 2497 02:08:36,360 --> 02:08:38,680 Speaker 1: you know, let's see what happens there. All right, let's 2498 02:08:38,680 --> 02:08:42,120 Speaker 1: head to uh, the most amazing game that's ever been 2499 02:08:42,120 --> 02:08:47,120 Speaker 1: played to Lucas Oil Stadium, the home of the Central 2500 02:08:47,760 --> 02:08:52,960 Speaker 1: Zone Invitational later this month. Plug, I'm just gonna be 2501 02:08:55,320 --> 02:08:57,000 Speaker 1: gott to get rid of it. Throws it to the 2502 02:08:57,120 --> 02:09:04,520 Speaker 1: end zone end, caught it. Jordan nakids, My goodness with 2503 02:09:04,680 --> 02:09:09,480 Speaker 1: the catch, my guy, Jordan nakeds that they're gonna go 2504 02:09:09,600 --> 02:09:13,240 Speaker 1: for two. Here we go, Texans going for the lead. 2505 02:09:13,800 --> 02:09:20,000 Speaker 1: Davis looking calling to the ends O. Jordan nakeds, it's 2506 02:09:20,040 --> 02:09:23,360 Speaker 1: not pig again, wide open as the Texans Grandma one 2507 02:09:23,400 --> 02:09:30,240 Speaker 1: point lead. But fifty seconds ago, what that was one 2508 02:09:30,280 --> 02:09:33,240 Speaker 1: of the dumbest things. It was so good or every 2509 02:09:33,280 --> 02:09:36,160 Speaker 1: Cults game up the last month. No, not even that, 2510 02:09:36,400 --> 02:09:38,720 Speaker 1: I mean, it's why did the Texans win this game? 2511 02:09:39,840 --> 02:09:42,360 Speaker 1: Davis Mills doing that at the Mark Vanderby with the 2512 02:09:42,440 --> 02:09:46,800 Speaker 1: call k I l T. Yeah they got. They convert 2513 02:09:46,840 --> 02:09:50,560 Speaker 1: a fourth and twenty for a touchdown, go for two 2514 02:09:51,360 --> 02:09:55,920 Speaker 1: naked to beat the Colts, and Zach Kieber was right. 2515 02:09:55,960 --> 02:09:58,160 Speaker 1: They had one win in them under Jeff Saturday, by 2516 02:09:58,160 --> 02:10:03,520 Speaker 1: the way, that is thirty one and because the Texans 2517 02:10:03,680 --> 02:10:06,880 Speaker 1: have this incredible comeback win, and I guess you know, 2518 02:10:06,920 --> 02:10:09,880 Speaker 1: the Colts made it happen by playing miserable, bone headed 2519 02:10:09,920 --> 02:10:11,920 Speaker 1: defense in the final plays of the game. But like 2520 02:10:12,280 --> 02:10:15,120 Speaker 1: they don't pick number one anymore. They dropped to the 2521 02:10:15,200 --> 02:10:18,040 Speaker 1: number two pick in the Chicago Bears get the number 2522 02:10:18,040 --> 02:10:20,320 Speaker 1: one pick, and it could be one of the more 2523 02:10:20,320 --> 02:10:22,880 Speaker 1: crushing developments for the Texans in many years. When you 2524 02:10:22,880 --> 02:10:25,520 Speaker 1: look back at it, it was delicious. I don't know why. 2525 02:10:25,720 --> 02:10:27,920 Speaker 1: I don't think they deserve any good luck the way 2526 02:10:27,960 --> 02:10:30,680 Speaker 1: they've handled everything, especially if they don't keep loving Smith. 2527 02:10:31,040 --> 02:10:32,720 Speaker 1: We'll hear from love you in a second. But I 2528 02:10:32,800 --> 02:10:35,520 Speaker 1: just love these sort of insane Week eighteen moments. And 2529 02:10:35,600 --> 02:10:39,720 Speaker 1: Davis Mills he had a fourth and twelve on the 2530 02:10:39,760 --> 02:10:43,080 Speaker 1: move to Brandon Cooks. Earlier in that drive he was 2531 02:10:43,280 --> 02:10:47,520 Speaker 1: fourth and twenty under extreme pressure. This is Davis Mills. 2532 02:10:47,560 --> 02:10:50,600 Speaker 1: This is not Patrick Mahomes. He's rolling to his left 2533 02:10:50,640 --> 02:10:53,640 Speaker 1: and he has two defensive linemen right on top of him, 2534 02:10:53,680 --> 02:10:56,440 Speaker 1: and then he throws across his body and the Colts 2535 02:10:56,480 --> 02:10:59,280 Speaker 1: defender has the game. All he has to do is 2536 02:10:59,360 --> 02:11:03,760 Speaker 1: knock it down. Instead, he runs forward just then jumps up. 2537 02:11:03,800 --> 02:11:07,080 Speaker 1: It goes right through his arms into the winning hands. 2538 02:11:08,040 --> 02:11:09,760 Speaker 1: It was one of the moments of the season. It 2539 02:11:09,840 --> 02:11:12,560 Speaker 1: was the only moment of the season that I yelled 2540 02:11:12,600 --> 02:11:16,840 Speaker 1: out in the news room and screamed, probably annoying Mark, 2541 02:11:18,520 --> 02:11:25,680 Speaker 1: annoy me. But it's it's it's amazing moments of athleticism. 2542 02:11:25,760 --> 02:11:28,600 Speaker 1: But like there are a lot of Texans fans that 2543 02:11:28,600 --> 02:11:32,120 Speaker 1: have their head on the Texans to win. I wanted 2544 02:11:32,160 --> 02:11:35,200 Speaker 1: that like, that's great. Those are trifleing items. If there's 2545 02:11:35,240 --> 02:11:37,280 Speaker 1: like Andrew Luck and no other quarterback in the traft, 2546 02:11:37,280 --> 02:11:38,880 Speaker 1: that it's meant to be a better draft. Like the 2547 02:11:39,000 --> 02:11:43,760 Speaker 1: Texans because of Davis Mills late game heroics, don't have 2548 02:11:43,760 --> 02:11:48,360 Speaker 1: the chance to pick the quarterback they want. This means 2549 02:11:47,800 --> 02:11:51,000 Speaker 1: meaning it could reverberate for years for this organization. And 2550 02:11:51,080 --> 02:11:52,800 Speaker 1: I don't know enough I got you know, we gotta 2551 02:11:52,800 --> 02:11:59,200 Speaker 1: talk to her. But now that this whole absurd Texans 2552 02:11:59,280 --> 02:12:03,160 Speaker 1: journey for two years should have con and to to 2553 02:12:03,320 --> 02:12:06,240 Speaker 1: Greg's point, and especially if you follow a team that 2554 02:12:06,280 --> 02:12:09,480 Speaker 1: can't get a quarterback for fifty years, they had Deshaun Watson, 2555 02:12:09,520 --> 02:12:12,400 Speaker 1: a generational talent that ended the way it ended to 2556 02:12:12,560 --> 02:12:15,480 Speaker 1: then fall into a potential another number one overall pick 2557 02:12:15,560 --> 02:12:17,520 Speaker 1: star that would have kind of sneaky annoyed me and 2558 02:12:17,560 --> 02:12:19,960 Speaker 1: other teams that are in my position. So maybe I 2559 02:12:19,960 --> 02:12:22,680 Speaker 1: don't feel too terribly and you also like, I'm like, 2560 02:12:22,960 --> 02:12:25,520 Speaker 1: just as a football fan, I'm thinking as a Texans fan, 2561 02:12:26,000 --> 02:12:29,440 Speaker 1: That's why I'm so i'mmed thinking about it. But the 2562 02:12:29,480 --> 02:12:32,760 Speaker 1: Texans and their players and their coaching staff, they know 2563 02:12:32,920 --> 02:12:35,720 Speaker 1: whatever is the next era of Texans football probably doesn't 2564 02:12:35,760 --> 02:12:38,400 Speaker 1: involve them. Like, so that's why the game played out 2565 02:12:38,400 --> 02:12:40,600 Speaker 1: the way it did. I mean, it makes me think 2566 02:12:40,640 --> 02:12:44,440 Speaker 1: about like the old movie Major League with Tom Barrenger 2567 02:12:44,480 --> 02:12:47,440 Speaker 1: and Corbyn Burnson and Charlie Sheen. It's like, was there 2568 02:12:47,600 --> 02:12:49,880 Speaker 1: some type of front office figure that was like, no, 2569 02:12:50,480 --> 02:12:52,840 Speaker 1: like racing down to the field to try to stop this, 2570 02:12:53,160 --> 02:12:55,640 Speaker 1: But of course nobody did. And I don't believe there's 2571 02:12:55,680 --> 02:12:59,000 Speaker 1: no there's no like I don't think anyone's saying like, 2572 02:12:59,000 --> 02:13:00,920 Speaker 1: oh love you Smith in the or should have tried 2573 02:13:00,960 --> 02:13:02,920 Speaker 1: to lose this. But I think that is where you create, 2574 02:13:03,280 --> 02:13:07,160 Speaker 1: just situationally, a chasm between your front office who had 2575 02:13:07,200 --> 02:13:09,080 Speaker 1: plans to do. The one thing that could happen is 2576 02:13:09,120 --> 02:13:11,520 Speaker 1: if Chicago holds on to that, if they want to 2577 02:13:11,560 --> 02:13:13,520 Speaker 1: just they fall in love with someone, then they're not 2578 02:13:13,560 --> 02:13:15,720 Speaker 1: taking a quarterback and maybe you're right back where you started. 2579 02:13:15,720 --> 02:13:17,760 Speaker 1: But they can also trade that. The Texans also have 2580 02:13:17,840 --> 02:13:20,320 Speaker 1: Cleveland's first round pick, so they have the ammunition. But 2581 02:13:20,360 --> 02:13:23,080 Speaker 1: it's just like, come on, Smith has to say about 2582 02:13:23,080 --> 02:13:25,160 Speaker 1: the draft. I I would because I don't know how 2583 02:13:25,240 --> 02:13:26,840 Speaker 1: often we'll get to hear from it again depending on 2584 02:13:26,840 --> 02:13:29,520 Speaker 1: what they do. Okay, this is the option that I had. 2585 02:13:29,840 --> 02:13:33,520 Speaker 1: So you're saying, hey, guys, playing this last game, you 2586 02:13:33,560 --> 02:13:35,600 Speaker 1: know all that you've been working for all your live 2587 02:13:35,880 --> 02:13:39,320 Speaker 1: you play to win, forget that lose the game on purpose. 2588 02:13:40,400 --> 02:13:42,440 Speaker 1: I think that would be a hard one to get by. 2589 02:13:42,640 --> 02:13:45,400 Speaker 1: They won't expect me to say that I didn't what 2590 02:13:45,520 --> 02:13:48,560 Speaker 1: we were each week. Our game plan has been to 2591 02:13:48,640 --> 02:13:51,160 Speaker 1: win the game. It's kind of simple as that, and 2592 02:13:51,200 --> 02:13:53,680 Speaker 1: that's what we followed through on the day. Um, Ultimately, 2593 02:13:53,680 --> 02:13:55,640 Speaker 1: I'm kind of I'm happy for Smith if this is 2594 02:13:55,680 --> 02:13:58,440 Speaker 1: how he goes out. He doesn't let ownership. We have 2595 02:13:58,480 --> 02:14:01,120 Speaker 1: one other thing from Levy, can't hear it? Do I 2596 02:14:01,200 --> 02:14:03,280 Speaker 1: expect to be back? Yeah? I expect to be back. 2597 02:14:05,160 --> 02:14:08,440 Speaker 1: You know, absolutely, It's like a dare. Greg Well, he 2598 02:14:08,480 --> 02:14:12,160 Speaker 1: said he's been talking to ownership. Maybe that was a dare. 2599 02:14:12,240 --> 02:14:14,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's based on that. The way 2600 02:14:14,440 --> 02:14:19,440 Speaker 1: that Ian rapport our National Insider. Remember when they changed 2601 02:14:19,480 --> 02:14:22,040 Speaker 1: that to his title? Have they change it again? And 2602 02:14:22,160 --> 02:14:26,920 Speaker 1: I think that's it? National Network Inside. Couldn't you make 2603 02:14:26,960 --> 02:14:29,880 Speaker 1: him internet international disppoint? It's an international sports there's not 2604 02:14:29,920 --> 02:14:33,879 Speaker 1: He's not dueling against that insider from Spain. His titles 2605 02:14:33,960 --> 02:14:37,200 Speaker 1: NFL Network Insider, he reported. You know they they that 2606 02:14:37,360 --> 02:14:41,120 Speaker 1: loveest future was very much in doubt. Over on Fox, 2607 02:14:41,200 --> 02:14:44,440 Speaker 1: Jake Lazer thought Nick Cassario the GM's future might be 2608 02:14:44,480 --> 02:14:46,600 Speaker 1: in doubt. So we'll just see where we'll We'll see 2609 02:14:46,720 --> 02:14:52,720 Speaker 1: what's going to developing news, developing news according to them 2610 02:14:52,760 --> 02:15:00,320 Speaker 1: being told rap sheets, Twitter, Bio, National Insider for NFL 2611 02:15:00,360 --> 02:15:02,960 Speaker 1: Network and NFL dot Com. I think that's new. I 2612 02:15:03,000 --> 02:15:04,960 Speaker 1: think that was tweaked someone recently I'm going to do 2613 02:15:05,000 --> 02:15:08,640 Speaker 1: my digging as Uh, isn't that what I said? Yeah? 2614 02:15:08,680 --> 02:15:10,560 Speaker 1: You were right? Yeah, okay, I'm I want to do 2615 02:15:10,600 --> 02:15:12,560 Speaker 1: some digging and find out when that changed. I would 2616 02:15:12,600 --> 02:15:14,480 Speaker 1: just say you could go. If you wanted to pull 2617 02:15:14,600 --> 02:15:17,400 Speaker 1: full power move, you go Earth insider. You're not dueling 2618 02:15:17,440 --> 02:15:23,960 Speaker 1: against um NFL insiders in Africa. I'll be Yeah, I'll 2619 02:15:23,960 --> 02:15:26,000 Speaker 1: be digging at the story. Just leave it at that. 2620 02:15:26,880 --> 02:15:30,160 Speaker 1: Was there something else? Yeah? I just like that. You know, 2621 02:15:30,360 --> 02:15:32,600 Speaker 1: if they if they're sending them out, they don't deserve 2622 02:15:32,640 --> 02:15:36,400 Speaker 1: to win this game. They don't deserve it. This this franchise. 2623 02:15:36,680 --> 02:15:39,880 Speaker 1: I I don't remember they were losing Deshaun Watson before 2624 02:15:39,880 --> 02:15:44,040 Speaker 1: anything happened either, he wanted out of this franchise. And also, 2625 02:15:44,160 --> 02:15:47,440 Speaker 1: keeping mind very excited about this, the Colts don't want 2626 02:15:47,480 --> 02:15:51,320 Speaker 1: their division rival to get the number one pick either. No. 2627 02:15:51,400 --> 02:15:53,240 Speaker 1: I think it was a savvy move by It was 2628 02:15:53,240 --> 02:15:54,880 Speaker 1: a good job by the call. It's graver though you 2629 02:15:55,000 --> 02:15:58,120 Speaker 1: still your prediction that uh, the Colts would finish in 2630 02:15:58,200 --> 02:16:01,560 Speaker 1: last place. That the true. But there's an argument to 2631 02:16:01,600 --> 02:16:04,400 Speaker 1: be made that Houston was a better team than Indie 2632 02:16:04,400 --> 02:16:06,840 Speaker 1: this year. They went one oh and one against them. 2633 02:16:06,960 --> 02:16:10,520 Speaker 1: I think finished team in this division. I mean, what 2634 02:16:10,560 --> 02:16:13,040 Speaker 1: a disastrous end to this. I think the I believe 2635 02:16:13,080 --> 02:16:17,840 Speaker 1: the Texans went undefeated in their Division one three two 2636 02:16:17,880 --> 02:16:21,440 Speaker 1: and one, though in the division ridiculous. Smith started the 2637 02:16:21,440 --> 02:16:25,200 Speaker 1: seasoning for a high and annoying everyone, and he ended 2638 02:16:25,200 --> 02:16:28,440 Speaker 1: the season going for the win with the two point conversion. 2639 02:16:28,440 --> 02:16:34,519 Speaker 1: Who says there can't be personal grand annoying everyone, No, Joe, 2640 02:16:35,160 --> 02:16:40,320 Speaker 1: just talking about it. Now it's official. The Texans once 2641 02:16:40,360 --> 02:16:42,480 Speaker 1: again on the in the market for a new head coach. 2642 02:16:43,000 --> 02:16:46,800 Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport and Mike Gara Folo together reporting of the 2643 02:16:46,840 --> 02:16:51,680 Speaker 1: Texans have fired head coach Lovey Smith. Another one and 2644 02:16:51,760 --> 02:16:55,520 Speaker 1: done in Houston. So David Culley, given no chance in 2645 02:16:56,520 --> 02:16:59,640 Speaker 1: to build that program, fired, even though he kind of 2646 02:16:59,640 --> 02:17:02,080 Speaker 1: out for formed of the team out perform what they expected. 2647 02:17:02,120 --> 02:17:06,000 Speaker 1: Lovey Smith comes in, given no chance to build the operation, 2648 02:17:07,160 --> 02:17:08,600 Speaker 1: sticks it to the team out on the way out 2649 02:17:08,640 --> 02:17:10,680 Speaker 1: the door in week eighteen and then has let go. 2650 02:17:11,360 --> 02:17:14,960 Speaker 1: So once again, um mark, the Texans will be on 2651 02:17:15,000 --> 02:17:17,720 Speaker 1: the lookout for a coach. They do have some positives now, 2652 02:17:17,920 --> 02:17:19,800 Speaker 1: of course in terms of what the job they have 2653 02:17:20,040 --> 02:17:22,920 Speaker 1: they already have. I think uh uh an extra number one. 2654 02:17:23,000 --> 02:17:25,720 Speaker 1: Is that correct? Cleveland's for years and even though they 2655 02:17:25,879 --> 02:17:28,520 Speaker 1: you know, blew the number one overall pick, they picked 2656 02:17:28,640 --> 02:17:31,200 Speaker 1: number two in this draft with a lot of cap space, 2657 02:17:31,840 --> 02:17:34,039 Speaker 1: but also a lot of dysfunction around that organization in 2658 02:17:34,080 --> 02:17:35,800 Speaker 1: recent years. Yeah, I think it's like you go. It 2659 02:17:35,840 --> 02:17:40,800 Speaker 1: reminds me of reading like the various biographies on Bill 2660 02:17:40,840 --> 02:17:43,840 Speaker 1: Belichick where he talks about when he left the whole 2661 02:17:43,840 --> 02:17:46,879 Speaker 1: Brown situation and was going to go to New England's like, 2662 02:17:46,920 --> 02:17:49,440 Speaker 1: just always think about ownership when you take a job. 2663 02:17:49,480 --> 02:17:52,320 Speaker 1: It's so important because if that shifts, you're probably gonna 2664 02:17:52,320 --> 02:17:55,120 Speaker 1: lose it. But ownership creates culture and everything else. And like, 2665 02:17:55,600 --> 02:17:57,440 Speaker 1: you do have something to offer that as the Texans, 2666 02:17:57,480 --> 02:17:59,680 Speaker 1: they're they they're loaded with draft picks. There's a couple 2667 02:17:59,720 --> 02:18:01,879 Speaker 1: of play as on that roster that I think because 2668 02:18:01,879 --> 02:18:05,199 Speaker 1: of the Texans have been overlooked young guys and there's 2669 02:18:05,200 --> 02:18:07,440 Speaker 1: something to build off. If I think Lovey Smith showed 2670 02:18:07,440 --> 02:18:09,920 Speaker 1: down the stretch here coaching them that they were playing 2671 02:18:09,959 --> 02:18:12,000 Speaker 1: teams tighter. They weren't just the joke. They were all 2672 02:18:12,040 --> 02:18:14,720 Speaker 1: of last season and for the beginning of this and 2673 02:18:14,760 --> 02:18:16,680 Speaker 1: in the end it didn't matter. You just get canned, 2674 02:18:16,680 --> 02:18:18,600 Speaker 1: and it's like, what is the direction? Why did you 2675 02:18:18,680 --> 02:18:21,400 Speaker 1: hire Lovey Smith? I get that it wasn't the most 2676 02:18:21,440 --> 02:18:24,400 Speaker 1: inspiring higher, but like, did you and your in the 2677 02:18:24,400 --> 02:18:27,200 Speaker 1: back of your mind, if you're the g M, nikos sario, 2678 02:18:27,280 --> 02:18:29,280 Speaker 1: if you're the owner Kalla McNair, think you know what, 2679 02:18:29,360 --> 02:18:32,400 Speaker 1: We're probably just gonna get through this season with Davis 2680 02:18:32,400 --> 02:18:35,480 Speaker 1: Mills or whoever set ourselves up post to Shaun Watson 2681 02:18:35,720 --> 02:18:37,800 Speaker 1: to get these draft picks after we trade them and 2682 02:18:37,800 --> 02:18:39,400 Speaker 1: then get the coach we really want. It just a 2683 02:18:39,440 --> 02:18:42,560 Speaker 1: sort of dirty business to me, right. I can't remember 2684 02:18:42,840 --> 02:18:46,960 Speaker 1: NFL head coach ever being hired where it felt like 2685 02:18:47,000 --> 02:18:49,960 Speaker 1: it was a short term higher the minute they made it, 2686 02:18:50,200 --> 02:18:54,360 Speaker 1: and that was that. The coaching search itself was a mess. 2687 02:18:54,440 --> 02:19:00,320 Speaker 1: Easterb was involved, Josh McCown was involved. The whole Ryan 2688 02:19:00,400 --> 02:19:04,400 Speaker 1: flores Um suing the NFL felt like it was kind 2689 02:19:04,400 --> 02:19:08,080 Speaker 1: of involved and maybe pushed the mc near's. I I 2690 02:19:08,120 --> 02:19:12,440 Speaker 1: just think it's embarrassing for Nick Cassario, whether he wants 2691 02:19:12,440 --> 02:19:16,600 Speaker 1: to put it on ownership or not, that he hired 2692 02:19:16,720 --> 02:19:19,760 Speaker 1: Cully as the first thing he did as GM. He 2693 02:19:19,840 --> 02:19:22,400 Speaker 1: made it one year, then he got to hire Levee Smith. 2694 02:19:22,640 --> 02:19:26,920 Speaker 1: He made it one year. Most gms never get to 2695 02:19:26,959 --> 02:19:29,880 Speaker 1: their third head coach if you hire two head coaches 2696 02:19:30,440 --> 02:19:32,720 Speaker 1: and that's over. I'm thinking of like Thomas Dimitroff when 2697 02:19:32,720 --> 02:19:36,160 Speaker 1: he hired Mike Smith and Dan Quinn that lasted, you know, 2698 02:19:36,320 --> 02:19:39,480 Speaker 1: ten fifteen years, but he's not getting to his third 2699 02:19:39,520 --> 02:19:43,879 Speaker 1: head coach. Cassario would be the first GM in history 2700 02:19:43,920 --> 02:19:45,879 Speaker 1: to ever get to hire three head coaches in one year. 2701 02:19:45,920 --> 02:19:47,920 Speaker 1: And yes, you can say, well, the Watson thing happened. 2702 02:19:47,959 --> 02:19:51,160 Speaker 1: They didn't cover themselves in glory there either. Uh, And 2703 02:19:51,280 --> 02:19:53,360 Speaker 1: I don't know where to put the blame. I put 2704 02:19:53,400 --> 02:19:56,480 Speaker 1: it on the organization. But it's just like embarrassing. And 2705 02:19:56,520 --> 02:19:58,280 Speaker 1: I already see the fans being like, well, they shouldn't 2706 02:19:58,280 --> 02:20:00,200 Speaker 1: have hired Lovy and he's not the guy anyways. It's 2707 02:20:00,240 --> 02:20:02,120 Speaker 1: like this was always the plan. It's like that's what 2708 02:20:02,560 --> 02:20:06,840 Speaker 1: team like fans of bad teams say, justified just like yeah, 2709 02:20:06,959 --> 02:20:09,039 Speaker 1: I mean, and the reason was one of the reasons 2710 02:20:09,080 --> 02:20:11,800 Speaker 1: why his eyebrow raising is. Yes, Levy Smith, who they 2711 02:20:11,800 --> 02:20:15,600 Speaker 1: elevated to take the job, um sixty four years old, 2712 02:20:15,640 --> 02:20:18,240 Speaker 1: he came up. He did you know, he had a 2713 02:20:18,280 --> 02:20:21,480 Speaker 1: bad run with Illinois's previous head coaching experience in college, 2714 02:20:21,680 --> 02:20:24,119 Speaker 1: and it didn't seem like for a team that's young 2715 02:20:24,280 --> 02:20:26,200 Speaker 1: and trying to figure things out that you would hire 2716 02:20:26,200 --> 02:20:29,560 Speaker 1: an older, veteran coach, and in in a lot of ways, 2717 02:20:29,600 --> 02:20:31,440 Speaker 1: it's yeah, that didn't make sense because none of this 2718 02:20:31,480 --> 02:20:34,200 Speaker 1: really makes sense. There is no real roadmap right now 2719 02:20:34,240 --> 02:20:37,039 Speaker 1: for the Texans, and I would be very wary if 2720 02:20:37,080 --> 02:20:39,120 Speaker 1: I am h And they're only thirty two chairs, so 2721 02:20:39,120 --> 02:20:41,240 Speaker 1: there's always gonna be a lot of interesting taking one 2722 02:20:41,280 --> 02:20:43,720 Speaker 1: of them. But I'd be very wary if I was 2723 02:20:43,760 --> 02:20:46,160 Speaker 1: a head coach going into that situation right now. I 2724 02:20:46,200 --> 02:20:48,080 Speaker 1: don't care about the cap space and the draft picks. 2725 02:20:48,320 --> 02:20:50,960 Speaker 1: It's like, is that a functional operation? And do I 2726 02:20:51,000 --> 02:20:52,680 Speaker 1: want to be a part of well. They interviewed Gannon 2727 02:20:53,040 --> 02:20:56,200 Speaker 1: Jonathan Gainn. He goes defensive cordnre twice last year and 2728 02:20:56,240 --> 02:20:58,959 Speaker 1: supposedly he was a strong candidate and there's been a 2729 02:20:58,959 --> 02:21:02,400 Speaker 1: lot of regulation that he might be the guy. Ian's 2730 02:21:02,440 --> 02:21:07,840 Speaker 1: already reporting that Gannon and defensive coordinator Demigo Ryan's who 2731 02:21:07,920 --> 02:21:10,640 Speaker 1: used to play for the Texans, and Josh McCown, yeah, 2732 02:21:10,640 --> 02:21:14,640 Speaker 1: the same account. I think now that Easterby Yeah, because 2733 02:21:14,680 --> 02:21:18,480 Speaker 1: he was. That was the whole easterby sources, and and 2734 02:21:18,520 --> 02:21:20,879 Speaker 1: he had McNair's ear. I think that was an easter 2735 02:21:20,959 --> 02:21:22,680 Speaker 1: be I mean, we can't look, you know, I don't 2736 02:21:23,040 --> 02:21:24,640 Speaker 1: remember a time when they didn't want us to talk 2737 02:21:24,720 --> 02:21:26,200 Speaker 1: Easter be a little bit here and there. But let's 2738 02:21:26,800 --> 02:21:30,199 Speaker 1: let's be real that like, by removing that whole situation 2739 02:21:30,280 --> 02:21:32,879 Speaker 1: from what we know, like, you can attract a different 2740 02:21:32,920 --> 02:21:35,879 Speaker 1: type of candidate potentially perhaps. And I do love that 2741 02:21:35,959 --> 02:21:38,120 Speaker 1: Lovey got that win on the way out. I love that. 2742 02:21:38,280 --> 02:21:40,400 Speaker 1: I also love that he has three years remaining on 2743 02:21:40,440 --> 02:21:43,879 Speaker 1: his deal guaranteed the money and dollar. So there you go. 2744 02:21:44,040 --> 02:21:46,400 Speaker 1: You don't have to you don't have to go pound 2745 02:21:46,440 --> 02:21:48,400 Speaker 1: the pavement tomorrow for work. You're gonna get paid well 2746 02:21:48,440 --> 02:21:54,480 Speaker 1: for the next you know, thousand days. He'll be fine. 2747 02:21:55,280 --> 02:21:58,400 Speaker 1: But he rightfully, he's a prideful person though, so this 2748 02:21:58,440 --> 02:22:00,360 Speaker 1: is you know, but he it's not who's gonna walk 2749 02:22:00,360 --> 02:22:03,440 Speaker 1: around viewing it as his fault organised bad team behavior. 2750 02:22:03,600 --> 02:22:05,920 Speaker 1: And that's just the start. That was a little teaser 2751 02:22:06,760 --> 02:22:13,280 Speaker 1: um of new horizons Monday. We'll be back on Tuesday 2752 02:22:14,240 --> 02:22:17,440 Speaker 1: where we will recap all the madness that is coming 2753 02:22:17,560 --> 02:22:22,240 Speaker 1: up the fallout from UH Week eight teen, obviously a 2754 02:22:22,320 --> 02:22:24,959 Speaker 1: look ahead, the beginning of a look ahead to the playoffs, 2755 02:22:25,520 --> 02:22:28,320 Speaker 1: and of course seeing what's going on across the head 2756 02:22:28,320 --> 02:22:31,119 Speaker 1: coaching ranks. There's always a ton of turnover. Greggy, we've 2757 02:22:31,160 --> 02:22:33,640 Speaker 1: been doing it, like we said, for a decade now, 2758 02:22:34,320 --> 02:22:36,800 Speaker 1: it's crazy. You're gonna handle this. We'll be on top 2759 02:22:36,840 --> 02:22:39,960 Speaker 1: of it. You follow around the NFL, you will understand 2760 02:22:39,959 --> 02:22:43,640 Speaker 1: what's happening around the NFL. That's a promise. Ten years 2761 02:22:44,560 --> 02:22:47,960 Speaker 1: we're here in the Chris Wesleyan podcast studio. I was 2762 02:22:48,000 --> 02:22:50,680 Speaker 1: thinking of Chris when nihiim Hines made those plays. He 2763 02:22:50,720 --> 02:22:52,840 Speaker 1: was always a big Naheim Heinz guy. It's like, why 2764 02:22:52,840 --> 02:22:55,480 Speaker 1: can't they get the ball more to Naheim Hines. We 2765 02:22:55,480 --> 02:22:57,680 Speaker 1: we missed Chris so much. That's the end of the 2766 02:22:57,720 --> 02:23:02,520 Speaker 1: tenth season. It's crazy. I had Graver listen to our 2767 02:23:02,560 --> 02:23:06,920 Speaker 1: first Week seventeen regular finale show to see if he 2768 02:23:06,920 --> 02:23:09,760 Speaker 1: could find any good little nuggets, and he said, I 2769 02:23:09,800 --> 02:23:12,240 Speaker 1: was not even involved in that show because I was down. 2770 02:23:12,600 --> 02:23:14,480 Speaker 1: And we still did find some, but I was not 2771 02:23:14,560 --> 02:23:17,520 Speaker 1: in the show because I was down in the newsroom 2772 02:23:17,560 --> 02:23:19,720 Speaker 1: doing something else. I can only imagine it was like 2773 02:23:19,720 --> 02:23:22,840 Speaker 1: coaching firings or something like that. I don't know. Literally 2774 02:23:22,879 --> 02:23:27,600 Speaker 1: wasn't even on the show. So we still find a clip. Yes, 2775 02:23:27,680 --> 02:23:31,280 Speaker 1: I list an hour long podcast from ten years ago 2776 02:23:31,360 --> 02:23:34,640 Speaker 1: today and found a clip are putting our producer on 2777 02:23:34,680 --> 02:23:37,959 Speaker 1: that on on the Football Sunday itself. I should have 2778 02:23:37,959 --> 02:23:40,959 Speaker 1: told them earlier, but you know, we had the earbuds 2779 02:23:40,959 --> 02:23:43,360 Speaker 1: in while I was watching the games this afternoon. It's 2780 02:23:43,400 --> 02:23:45,240 Speaker 1: good stuff, it's good content. It was fun. I like 2781 02:23:45,320 --> 02:23:49,120 Speaker 1: staying in touch with Yeah, Like, do you think that 2782 02:23:49,920 --> 02:23:52,280 Speaker 1: the three of us as broadcasters have improved in the 2783 02:23:52,280 --> 02:23:55,040 Speaker 1: ten years based on what you listened to we defined? 2784 02:23:55,200 --> 02:23:57,880 Speaker 1: You could be honest? No, you, I mean you've obviously improved, 2785 02:23:58,040 --> 02:24:00,840 Speaker 1: but you were still like even back then, you could 2786 02:24:00,840 --> 02:24:03,520 Speaker 1: tell what superstars you are all going to be. See 2787 02:24:03,520 --> 02:24:06,320 Speaker 1: that's why he's on the show itself. Who who do 2788 02:24:06,360 --> 02:24:08,119 Speaker 1: you think did the best job? You would just listen 2789 02:24:08,160 --> 02:24:10,640 Speaker 1: to the whole episodes like who who was? Who shined 2790 02:24:10,680 --> 02:24:15,560 Speaker 1: the brightest? WESA? That cannot argue with that. It's still 2791 02:24:15,560 --> 02:24:18,920 Speaker 1: actually gonna bother markets. It's one time it will not 2792 02:24:19,000 --> 02:24:21,440 Speaker 1: because I think it's also deadly accurate. When Head goes 2793 02:24:21,480 --> 02:24:25,879 Speaker 1: to Pillow though Head's going to pill on about five 2794 02:24:25,920 --> 02:24:32,560 Speaker 1: minutes so I could hear West laughing. It is. This 2795 02:24:32,640 --> 02:24:36,800 Speaker 1: is hard to believe. Time flies, and and this is 2796 02:24:36,800 --> 02:24:40,280 Speaker 1: our second full regular season without Chris now but he's 2797 02:24:40,320 --> 02:24:43,040 Speaker 1: still very much part of the show and always will be. 2798 02:24:43,520 --> 02:24:48,080 Speaker 1: I love you, buddy, wherever you are. All right. Season 2799 02:24:48,160 --> 02:24:52,119 Speaker 1: is not over, the regular seasons over to seventy two down? 2800 02:24:52,200 --> 02:24:55,040 Speaker 1: How many to go? Greggy on the spot in a 2801 02:24:55,080 --> 02:25:03,960 Speaker 1: big spot? Thirteen the call, let's see you got five? 2802 02:25:05,240 --> 02:25:08,440 Speaker 1: You have five games a wild guard weekend four division. 2803 02:25:08,480 --> 02:25:14,360 Speaker 1: That's nine to championship eleven, super Bowl twelve. Right wait 2804 02:25:14,440 --> 02:25:23,080 Speaker 1: now six this weekend six four six six two six 2805 02:25:23,160 --> 02:25:26,240 Speaker 1: four two one six Post four ten, post two post one. 2806 02:25:26,320 --> 02:25:31,160 Speaker 1: Nailed it? Oh the Pro Bowl Skills compensation. Sorry fourteen. 2807 02:25:34,480 --> 02:25:37,280 Speaker 1: Right in front of me, Mark Sessler is wearing an 2808 02:25:37,320 --> 02:25:42,680 Speaker 1: extra large number fifteen official Tim Tebow jersey, tucked into 2809 02:25:42,840 --> 02:25:46,480 Speaker 1: his jeans. As per the terms of the bet. This 2810 02:25:46,560 --> 02:25:50,800 Speaker 1: is tied into the week sixteen Brown's Jets game. Mark 2811 02:25:50,879 --> 02:25:55,600 Speaker 1: your men at your word. Congratuations. You you put a 2812 02:25:55,600 --> 02:25:58,039 Speaker 1: clown suit on Mark here. I didn't mean to. It 2813 02:25:58,120 --> 02:25:59,680 Speaker 1: was just to the bet. You know, I would have 2814 02:25:59,680 --> 02:26:02,280 Speaker 1: been wearing a weed in jersey. But Mark, thank you well. 2815 02:26:02,400 --> 02:26:04,640 Speaker 1: Listen and I you know, I sit next to Westling 2816 02:26:05,240 --> 02:26:07,960 Speaker 1: in the newsroom and I see the look of jealousy 2817 02:26:07,959 --> 02:26:09,800 Speaker 1: in his eye. Did I get to wear this for 2818 02:26:09,840 --> 02:26:11,640 Speaker 1: the first time ever? It was yours as a wedding 2819 02:26:11,640 --> 02:26:13,800 Speaker 1: gets had to pull the tag off of it. So 2820 02:26:13,920 --> 02:26:15,640 Speaker 1: it's not getting a lot of use by you. It's 2821 02:26:15,640 --> 02:26:19,199 Speaker 1: not jealousy, it's pity for Mark. He's fine with wearing 2822 02:26:19,200 --> 02:26:21,080 Speaker 1: the jersey. He looks good. He's got a nice dress 2823 02:26:21,080 --> 02:26:25,080 Speaker 1: shirt on underneath. He's really pulling off the look contrary 2824 02:26:25,080 --> 02:26:28,960 Speaker 1: to expectations. But every sad sack in the building has 2825 02:26:28,959 --> 02:26:30,840 Speaker 1: to come up and ask him about it. Why are 2826 02:26:30,840 --> 02:26:36,000 Speaker 1: you wearing a jersey? It has been slightly distracting. See 2827 02:26:36,040 --> 02:26:59,800 Speaker 1: that was worth the hour. I stand by