Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Jetty and he Armstrong and Yetty. I
Speaker 2: was at the CBS yesterday and they got their Halloween
Speaker 2: displays up? What is going on there? Have we ever
Speaker 2: figured that out? Has anybody ever figured that out? Is
Speaker 2: that just to put way back in the back of
Speaker 2: your mind when Halloween finally gets here. This is where
Speaker 2: you can get your candy that's part of it, or
Speaker 2: just get you first. Is there anybody who's buying their
Speaker 2: Calloween candy practically July?
Speaker 3: That would be odd.
Speaker 1: Now the giant I happen to be at a big
Speaker 1: box hardware store the other day. Holy Cow decorations are
Speaker 1: so cool these days. Halloween de expensive. Oh yeah, the
Speaker 1: big giant ghouls and ghosts that are now that's feet
Speaker 1: high in.
Speaker 2: That's slightly different because the popular ones have been selling
Speaker 2: out every year.
Speaker 1: Right, And that's infrastructure. But candy is is is combustible.
Speaker 2: The bags of Little Snickers are there on the shelf
Speaker 2: year round. You now just have a giant Halloween display
Speaker 2: next to it for those of you who need big
Speaker 2: bags of candy.
Speaker 3: All the time.
Speaker 2: I just I just don't quite understand what's going on.
Speaker 2: But is there anybody that's happy with that? Everybody I've
Speaker 2: ever known? In myself, I grown when I see Christmas
Speaker 2: stuff in August or Halloween stuff in July, I don't
Speaker 2: get happy about I think.
Speaker 3: What you're happy boost sales? Does it?
Speaker 2: Though? I just find it? I find it ard to
Speaker 2: believe anyway? For the first time ever, And I want
Speaker 2: to talk about this later because this is an interesting topic.
Speaker 2: For the first time ever, on your list of things
Speaker 2: you probably shouldn't do, there are more daily pots smokers
Speaker 2: than daily cigarette smokers or alcohol drinkers for the first
Speaker 2: time ever in nation's history. Wow, and people's attitudes, at
Speaker 2: least among the elite, have switched. It would seem on
Speaker 2: whether or not pot is just perfectly okay, don't worry
Speaker 2: about it. It seems like we're deciding it ain't the
Speaker 2: greatest for you, and we ought to take another look
Speaker 2: at this.
Speaker 1: Seems to be burn one down and relax. Yeah, seems
Speaker 1: to be a direction it's going. Yeah, I would agree. Interesting,
Speaker 1: So we'll get to that.
Speaker 3: Believe it or not.
Speaker 1: I want to talk at least briefly about doctor Anthony Fauci.
Speaker 1: I've come across new perspectives that have really opened my
Speaker 1: eyes to a couple of things. But first, well as
Speaker 1: an introduction future NFL Hall of Famer Aaron Rodgers, I'm.
Speaker 4: Gonna plead the fifth okay, oka like that, absolute coward,
Speaker 4: absolute yeah, are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: You got a pardon and you're in front of you,
Speaker 4: And pleaded over a hundred times, spent in the entire
Speaker 4: time writing in his diary about how fun it is
Speaker 4: to be famous.
Speaker 2: You gotta be kidding me. Okay, So on that note,
Speaker 2: what are you gonna say about me?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 2: You know, if I hire Aaron Rodgers, I'd want him
Speaker 2: to focus only on football, because I'm paying him for that.
Speaker 2: But if I am Aaron Rodgers and I've got more
Speaker 2: money than eighteen families could spend on a binge in
Speaker 2: a lifetime, I'm gonna say whatever the hell I want exactly.
Speaker 2: And remember, Aaron Rodgers was banned from playing or suspended
Speaker 2: or whatever because he is a healthy young man at
Speaker 2: zero risk of serious negative outcome, was forced to take
Speaker 2: the jab or he couldn't make his living, and he's
Speaker 2: pissed off about it anyway. Some of the stuff I
Speaker 2: saw in the Fauci diary that I didn't see over
Speaker 2: to the week until the weekend, where he was aware
Speaker 2: earlier than he obviously ever said out loud that the
Speaker 2: get in the vaccine didn't really stop the transmission, you
Speaker 2: know a lot of other things. It made it less
Speaker 2: like you were going to get really sick or die,
Speaker 2: which we talked about all the time. But the transmitting
Speaker 2: it and stuff like that, that was the excuse for
Speaker 2: mandating it. Nope, they knew that. That didn't make much difference.
Speaker 1: I finally got a chance to read The Fabulous Nelly
Speaker 1: Bowles comments on some of the revelations of last week,
Speaker 1: and she points out that nobody ever thought it was
Speaker 1: the wet market. Not really, the scientists didn't. They just
Speaker 1: pitched that as a as a cover up, and the
Speaker 1: completely incurious media who was part of the cover up
Speaker 1: will never admit it. She also goes on that he
Speaker 1: knew almost immediately COVID's case fatality rate was pretty low.
Speaker 1: He said, this is acting like a bad influenza, and
Speaker 1: it's transmissibility and the fatality rate is more like zero
Speaker 1: point two percent rather than two percent. But schools were closed,
Speaker 1: careers were lost, suicide spiked, etc. And all of those
Speaker 1: revelations will only be very likely reported on She writes.
Speaker 1: There's currently a TV news blackout on the story except
Speaker 1: on Fox News of course. Here's one analysis mentions of
Speaker 1: Fauci on the air July twenty fifth through twenty eight,
Speaker 1: when the whole diary thing came out, it was there
Speaker 1: was an hour and thirty nine minutes of coverage on
Speaker 1: Fox News. On CNN there was less than two minutes. Wow,
Speaker 1: CBS News thirty three seconds, MSNBC thirty two seconds, CBS
Speaker 1: six that's a local station, thirty one seconds.
Speaker 2: That is amazing. You couldn't get more than thirty seconds
Speaker 2: out of interesting stuff in your mind out of seeing
Speaker 2: that entry from January of two thousand.
Speaker 1: The most explained cataclysm that's ever hit mankind.
Speaker 2: Where he said it's now known that it didn't have
Speaker 2: a natural origin.
Speaker 3: Right. Wow?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that it that it wasn't the wet market certainly. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I when the diaries came out thought, and I still
Speaker 1: think this to some extent, we need to focus on
Speaker 1: the origin and the cover up of the origin, and
Speaker 1: the constitutional rights that were squashed. And I thought the
Speaker 1: whole Wow, look how famous I am. Famous, people love me,
Speaker 1: I'm super popular.
Speaker 3: Stuff.
Speaker 1: I thought it was pathetic, but I thought it was
Speaker 1: a distraction from the serious, serious stuff that we should
Speaker 1: be talking about, in terms of the COVID reaction and
Speaker 1: the traveling, constitutional rights and economics and people's emotions and
Speaker 1: the kids and.
Speaker 3: The rest of it.
Speaker 1: I still think that, although I've shaded my opinion a
Speaker 1: little bit. Nelly goes into great detail about how he
Speaker 1: really really loved being a celebrity and he was being worshiped,
Speaker 1: how there was a cult of Fauci, and goes into
Speaker 1: some great detail, and she's a wonderful writer. I'm going
Speaker 1: to skip that though, because I wanted to get to this,
Speaker 1: and it's from the fabulous Peggy Noonan who mentions Fowery.
Speaker 1: She writes about Fauci's diaries and Jack give us the
Speaker 1: quick a ten second version of the Diaries of Samuel peeps.
Speaker 2: Ah. He was a writer in around sixteen sixty. He
Speaker 2: kept the daily diary of life in London at a
Speaker 2: time of great political turmoil and a plague and everything else.
Speaker 2: Some of the most.
Speaker 3: Interesting great Fire of London too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, some of the most interesting things that ever happened
Speaker 2: in London's history happened while this guy, who was a
Speaker 2: great writer was taking a daily diary. And it's an
Speaker 2: incredible glimpse into that time and place.
Speaker 1: And he was in his late twenties and thirties, for
Speaker 1: what it's worth. But I found this really insightful. Insightful,
Speaker 1: So peeps, and it's spelled pepys. If you want to
Speaker 1: read the diaries, Jack says, they're brilliant. It looks like peppists,
Speaker 1: but it's peeps. He watched the Great Fire from the
Speaker 1: Tower of London, near where he lived, and came to
Speaker 1: grasp with shock the size and scale of it. In
Speaker 1: a famous passage on September the second of sixteen sixty six,
Speaker 1: he described seeing quote poor people staying in their houses
Speaker 1: as long as till the very fire touched them, and
Speaker 1: then running into boats. They're clambering from one pair of
Speaker 1: stairs by the water side to another, along other things.
Speaker 1: The poor pigeons, I perceive, were loath to leave their houses,
Speaker 1: but hovered above the windows and balconies till they were
Speaker 1: Some of them burned their wings and fell down. He
Speaker 1: recorded all the chaos around him. His writing was jagged
Speaker 1: in real time. He reported what he'd seen to King
Speaker 1: Charles the Second. He was also an eyewitness to the
Speaker 1: plague of sixteen sixty five, which took an estimated one
Speaker 1: hundred thousand lives, which was a quarter of the population
Speaker 1: of London in eighteen months. He records empty streets and
Speaker 1: carts collecting the dead. On June seventh, he passes the
Speaker 1: homes of the quarantine. Quote this day, much against my will,
Speaker 1: I did in Drury Lane see two or three houses
Speaker 1: marked with a red cross upon the doors, and Lord
Speaker 1: have mercy upon us written there. He was pained and frightened.
Speaker 1: He'd never seen such a thing. Then, Peggy Noonan writes,
Speaker 1: within this frame, elast I read the first five months
Speaker 1: of doctor Fauci's pandemic diary as I. As has been reported,
Speaker 1: it isn't about witnessing or capturing the size and scale
Speaker 1: of a crisis, or feeling shocked anxiety.
Speaker 3: It's about other things.
Speaker 1: His super a List Party House speaker Nancy Pelosi hugging
Speaker 1: him and kissing him, and another President Trump tells doctor Fauci,
Speaker 1: lou Dobbs told me you were the one of the smartest, knowledgeable,
Speaker 1: and outstanding person he knows. Fauci writes, I was very pleased.
Speaker 1: Others were stunned and impressed. Then an entry about being
Speaker 1: a national hero. Nice profiles of me in Political New
Speaker 1: York Times. A different day, different day. I did all
Speaker 1: five Sunday shows today, congratulates them. Shelves March twenty six,
Speaker 1: donuts are being named T shirts have my pictures. Press
Speaker 1: is still hot and heavy. These are all different entries,
Speaker 1: different days, movie stars sending him flowers, etc. One sense
Speaker 1: it screams seven deadly sins, writes, and he gave it
Speaker 1: to his pride. But it also makes the history in
Speaker 1: which he took such a big part. Look Banalan inhuman
Speaker 1: Your historic emergency is his media opportunity. His diary doesn't
Speaker 1: seem at all humbled by the role in which he's
Speaker 1: been cast or his responsibility. I saw no deep reflection
Speaker 1: on the sufferings of his countrymen. He doesn't see the
Speaker 1: red crosses on the doors. He attached clips of or
Speaker 1: links to fawning newspaper profiles and columns, but not to
Speaker 1: stories about what was happening in the civilian population population
Speaker 1: of his country as it went through a crisis. The
Speaker 1: sweep and detail of Peep's diary captures the spirit of
Speaker 1: his age, the restoration. Let's hope the flatness and self
Speaker 1: adulation of Anthony Fauci's doesn't capture ours.
Speaker 2: Well, that's really really good, and I would agree without
Speaker 2: one hundred percent. Yeah, I missed that. That is very,
Speaker 2: very true. The fact that he doesn't have long paragraphs
Speaker 2: where he's really uh, wrestling with the kids are missing
Speaker 2: out on graduation year or kindergarten and this is just
Speaker 2: got to be playing or this has got to be
Speaker 2: devastating to families, even if he did agreed with his policy,
Speaker 2: even if he was saying, but I think it's the
Speaker 2: right thing to do, blah blah blah, because but it's
Speaker 2: so difficult to know people are going through these How
Speaker 2: that's not part of your diary. In the midst of
Speaker 2: this is your this is why you have a career,
Speaker 2: was being prepared for this sort of thing, and when
Speaker 2: it happened, you're not writing about the devastation of it.
Speaker 2: You're writing about the I met Beyonce today, Right, That
Speaker 2: is pretty interesting. Yeah, it's a great contrast.
Speaker 1: My final exhibit in the trial of the Evil Murder
Speaker 1: of Doctor Fauci shallows that might be. Part of his
Speaker 1: problem is he's shallow. So it's ninety to ninety one, Michael,
Speaker 1: I'm going to need. This is Carrie Mullus, whose name
Speaker 1: you probably don't know. He's a scientist, a chemist. He
Speaker 1: invented PCR poly Moray's chain reaction. He won the nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety three Nobel Prize in chemistry. And he was in
Speaker 1: some sort of debate of with Anthony Fauci in the
Speaker 1: nineteen nineties and said this about Fauci.
Speaker 6: Fauci get up there and start talking. You know, he
Speaker 6: didn't know anything really about anything, And I'd say that
Speaker 6: to his face.
Speaker 3: Nothing. The man thinks you can take a blood.
Speaker 6: Sample and stick it in an electron microscope and if
Speaker 6: it's gottavirus in there, you will know it. He doesn't
Speaker 6: understand electron microscopy, and he doesn't understand medicine. Should not
Speaker 6: be in a position like he's in. Most of those
Speaker 6: guys up there on the top are just total administrative people,
Speaker 6: and they don't know anything.
Speaker 2: About what I knew. He didn't understand electron microsity. No,
Speaker 2: that's that's a really interesting angle that that he might
Speaker 2: have been just been a bureaucrat and didn't know the
Speaker 2: actual science.
Speaker 3: Next clip, Michael I Faut.
Speaker 6: She wants to get on television with somebody who knows
Speaker 6: a little bit about this stuff and debate him.
Speaker 3: He could easily do it because he's been asked.
Speaker 6: I mean, I've had a lot of people President of
Speaker 6: the University of South Carolina asked about you if he'd
Speaker 6: come down there and debate me on the stage in
Speaker 6: front of the student body, because I wanted somebody who
Speaker 6: was from the other side he come down there and
Speaker 6: balance my because I felt like, well, these guys can
Speaker 6: listen to me, but I need to have somebody else
Speaker 6: down here that's going to tell the other side what
Speaker 6: about you didn't want to do it.
Speaker 2: It reminds me what you're always saying, what about a
Speaker 2: law enforcement or the military, that the higher you go
Speaker 2: up the ranks, the more you become a politician and
Speaker 2: less a cop or a marine or whatever. Yeah, that
Speaker 2: must be true in the world of science too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely true. Yeah, he knows nothing about nothing.
Speaker 1: He's just an administrator and a self aggrandizing shallow hack
Speaker 1: who covered up for his own funding of gain of
Speaker 1: function reasons.
Speaker 3: I represent science.
Speaker 1: If a single word of that is contracted contradicted, rather
Speaker 1: between today and the day I die. I will tell
Speaker 1: you loud and clear and admit it. I don't expect
Speaker 1: I'll need.
Speaker 3: To do that.
Speaker 2: You want to hear a great tease? Sure, an up
Speaker 2: update on a story one of my favorite stories of
Speaker 2: all ill.
Speaker 3: Be the judge of that though, Go ahead.
Speaker 2: They've discovered Jimothy's father.
Speaker 3: That's really good.
Speaker 2: Katie's got Katy's got both hands. I'm so happy. Really
Speaker 2: they've found idiots. They've found Jimothy's father. Yes, I resigned,
Speaker 2: I'm resigning team coverage on that coming up later, say er,
Speaker 2: I uh worry about and read about the state of
Speaker 2: pot in this country of Fairmount, because I got two
Speaker 2: teenage boys, and I've known a few people in my
Speaker 2: life who whose lives were not good because of their
Speaker 2: addiction to the non addictive pot. But Free Press has
Speaker 2: got a great piece about that today, on how it's
Speaker 2: more like cigarettes than alcohol. It turns out we had
Speaker 2: the analogy wrong all these years, which I think is
Speaker 2: really interesting. And they've been dusting some of the street
Speaker 2: pot with fentanyl. You need to be very care that helps. Yeah,
Speaker 2: But more on that later. So Katie, I'm glad to
Speaker 2: see that while you were on maternity leave you had
Speaker 2: time even raising a newborn to stay up on the
Speaker 2: Jimothy story.
Speaker 7: Oh, Jimothy is at the top of my algorithm.
Speaker 2: Dude, with you people deformed raccoon that somehow has leapt
Speaker 2: into all of our consciousnesses. He's a doll, That's.
Speaker 3: Why he's a freak.
Speaker 2: But this this actually ends up being a little bit
Speaker 2: more of story about AI and how I don't understand
Speaker 2: how the chat bots work, So I asked chat GPT,
Speaker 2: what is Jimothy I'm frightened.
Speaker 5: Of.
Speaker 2: Its response was if somebody said jimithine had caught you
Speaker 2: off guard, there's no need to assume it's something dangerous.
Speaker 2: Jimmiothy is just a joking, made up version of the
Speaker 2: name jim or Jimmy. An Internet theme or humorous nickname.
Speaker 2: Can sound silly blah blah blah blah, but there's no
Speaker 2: reason to be bothered by the word Jimothy. And I responded, Wow,
Speaker 2: it's been on the news every day for weeks. I
Speaker 2: do not understand how your search engine works, and it
Speaker 2: responded with fair point and in this case, you were
Speaker 2: right to call me out, and then explains how it
Speaker 2: didn't have that information but then got that information. But again,
Speaker 2: I clearly do not understand how these search engines work.
Speaker 2: That I bring up jimothine, it has no idea what
Speaker 2: I'm talking about until I point out it's like a giant,
Speaker 2: giant story dude, right, and it does like one extra
Speaker 2: tiny layer of something and knows what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: Right, like, for instance, finding out this Jimothy, let's figure
Speaker 1: out what that is before we answer this question.
Speaker 3: Yeah, bother with that.
Speaker 2: And again, as I always ask, who cares about the
Speaker 2: Jimothy question? How often does that happen with things that
Speaker 2: I don't know? That it's really really wrong.
Speaker 7: Because it's too worried about trying to connect with you
Speaker 7: on another level, Like that text message that I sent
Speaker 7: you guys not too long ago where it told me
Speaker 7: to give my son extra snuggles for it from it
Speaker 7: from it, and I was like, what am I going
Speaker 7: to hurry my phone up against his forehead?
Speaker 2: What do you want me to do?
Speaker 3: So creepy.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's weird because I think that the
Speaker 7: programming there is spliced between information and trying to connect
Speaker 7: with humans to keep them hooked.
Speaker 2: But like just just a cursor research of what the
Speaker 2: f is? Jimothy, what it brought you the infomo?
Speaker 1: Yeah right, One of our tech head listeners said, yeah,
Speaker 1: people rate how happy they are with the answers, and
Speaker 1: consistently most people like when it creepily.
Speaker 3: Tries to connect with you.
Speaker 1: We're outliers, you know, we just have to accept that
Speaker 1: most people like that.
Speaker 2: It did end. It did end after explaining what Jimithy
Speaker 2: is a deformed raccoon. Thanks for pushing back, It improved
Speaker 2: the answer. Did it pull a Joe and go what
Speaker 2: a freak? Pot's getting worse?
Speaker 3: Take him armstrong and getty.
Speaker 5: Trump said it's a disaster with no end in sight.
Speaker 5: Then Taco Bell said, Hey, that's our slogan. Then Trump
Speaker 5: said this cabinae just refuses to come together. Then Akia said, Hey,
Speaker 5: that's our slogan. Then Trump said everyone who was close
Speaker 5: to me is now distancing themselves. Then Tom's Natural deodoran
Speaker 5: said Hey.
Speaker 3: That's our slogan.
Speaker 5: Then Trump said I've never experienced anything so hard and painful.
Speaker 5: Kate cot Potatorship said Hey, that's our slogan. Then Trump
Speaker 5: said it's a mess, by far, the worst situation I've
Speaker 5: ever wandered into. Then e Kano Lodge said, hey, that's ours,
Speaker 5: and Trump said there's so much money down the drain
Speaker 5: and for what? Then the random Apple storage fee you
Speaker 5: pay every month?
Speaker 3: Said hey, that's our.
Speaker 2: Slogan, the random Apple storage fee. I knew a guy
Speaker 2: that used the natural deodoranti and there'd be one good
Speaker 2: word to describe him, smelly. M Maybe it works for you,
Speaker 2: but it didn't work for everybody.
Speaker 7: I worked at Trader Joe's where they sold all of
Speaker 7: that stuff and the people grabbing it off the shelves,
Speaker 7: same situation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Stanky.
Speaker 2: Free Press with a really interesting article about pot today.
Speaker 2: For the first time on record, more Americans get high
Speaker 2: every day than drink or smoke every day.
Speaker 4: I'll just sto.
Speaker 2: It's a new situation. But there's something everyone missed in
Speaker 2: the data. Charles fain Layman writes in The Free Press
Speaker 2: the days of legal weed may be numbered. The support
Speaker 2: for legal marijuana is dropping for a variety of reasons. So, uh,
Speaker 2: if you're old enough, you've been listening to the we
Speaker 2: need to legalize marijuana argument for a very very, very
Speaker 2: long time, and I got come in. I remember Bill
Speaker 2: Maher used to make this, he's a regular pot smoker.
Speaker 2: He used to make this argument all the time too.
Speaker 2: What about alcohol? Why do we have alcohol?
Speaker 3: Wise?
Speaker 2: Alcohol? Okay, now it was always compared to alcohol, but
Speaker 2: this point in the Free presses it's turned out to
Speaker 2: be way more like cigarettes than alcohol, in that the
Speaker 2: consumption is being driven by daily users the way cigarettes are.
Speaker 2: Most people don't smoke by far cigarettes. The people who
Speaker 2: do smoke smoke every single day and keep the whole
Speaker 2: industry alive. Marijuana is closer to that than is the minority.
Speaker 2: A minority of people drink every day. There's a lot
Speaker 2: of alcohol can exist in lots and lots of people
Speaker 2: who drink occasionally, and that as a whatever you want
Speaker 2: to call it, a vice or whatever name you want
Speaker 2: to put on the darn thing. But marijuana is closer
Speaker 2: to the cigarette and that it's a smaller number of
Speaker 2: people that do it every single day. And he makes
Speaker 2: the argument in the Free Press that that's what is
Speaker 2: driving the whole making it so strong thing, because it's
Speaker 2: the daily users who buy most of the stuff, and it
Speaker 2: is a business. You build up a tolerance, so you
Speaker 2: want stronger, same with cigarettes, and so you're not catering
Speaker 2: to the casual I'm going to a concert once every
Speaker 2: six months user. You're catering to the daily potsmoker.
Speaker 1: The chronically dependent user, I think was the phrase they used.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is really interesting when you think about it. Also,
Speaker 2: people's just attitudes about whether or not it's good for
Speaker 2: you are bad for you have flipped quite a bit
Speaker 2: in the last few years. I don't know if what's
Speaker 2: driving that is just looking around you. People don't like
Speaker 2: pot stores popping up everywhere. Apparently they don't like being
Speaker 2: able to smell it everywhere they go. Now, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know how big a fact are they could be.
Speaker 2: You don't smell alcohol the same You also don't smell
Speaker 2: the vapes very much. No, I mean you.
Speaker 3: Hit the vape.
Speaker 7: Well, you hit the vape and it dissipates within seconds.
Speaker 7: And I have a bunch of friends who have quit
Speaker 7: drinking and have switched to pot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't care about any of those things. I just
Speaker 1: care about young people damaging their brains irrevocably and causing
Speaker 1: psychotic episodes because it's such a strong drug at this point,
Speaker 1: and it's I actually just found out I have a
Speaker 1: friend who has an offspring that has been dealing with
Speaker 1: psychosis after heavy pot use, and it's it's terrible.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, and the vapor in it is really is
Speaker 2: really it can be a different thing for the way
Speaker 2: to affect your lungs and your brain and everything like
Speaker 2: that too. And then it's got like you said, it
Speaker 2: doesn't have really any smell. It's really hard to detect.
Speaker 2: So in terms of young young people, and they put
Speaker 2: it in flavor, you know, cherry flavored and everything like
Speaker 2: that good starter kit for a thirteen year old or whatever.
Speaker 2: That's fantastic, yes, Katie.
Speaker 7: But also the so the ways that they're distributing it now,
Speaker 7: whether it's a vape, which like I said, dissipates quickly,
Speaker 7: or the edibles, they're able to take the THHC and
Speaker 7: condense it down into such a strong level and then
Speaker 7: distribute it into these like baked goods or gummies or
Speaker 7: whatever it might be. That I mean, it's hitting people tenfold.
Speaker 7: It's it's not good.
Speaker 2: The number of people who identify as pot smokers has
Speaker 2: only gone up eight percentage points over a dozen years
Speaker 2: between twenty twelve and twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3: That's a pretty good rise.
Speaker 2: But I see that doesn't account for a store on
Speaker 2: every other corner depending on what town you live in
Speaker 2: or whatever. And smokers or consumers. Yeah, well exactly. So
Speaker 2: it's not that many more people decided on, hey, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna smoke pot, but the number of people smoke it
Speaker 2: daily apparently has gone up or a lot or cook
Speaker 2: with it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, however you take it in,
Speaker 2: I shouldn't say smoke use, I guess would be better.
Speaker 2: I also am interested in as a kind of a libertarian.
Speaker 2: I am clearly not a full on libertarian because I
Speaker 2: agree with now most Americans fifty seven percent of Americans
Speaker 2: say we should ban tobacco products all together, not talking
Speaker 2: about marijuana, but like your cigarettes, what's the how do
Speaker 2: you justify cigarettes existing? Unless you're going with a libertarian,
Speaker 2: we're free people and we should be able to do
Speaker 2: what they do. But as a product, there's just there's
Speaker 2: just no upside to the existence cigarettes.
Speaker 1: No, I'm uncomfortable with that one because it's the classic
Speaker 1: example of if we had a if we did not
Speaker 1: have a gigantic welfare state in which I am responsible
Speaker 1: for your medical bills, what you do to yourself, the
Speaker 1: choices you make are your business and they're none of mine.
Speaker 1: But if and I hate to even say this out loud,
Speaker 1: but if somebodys say habitual smokers, sayrettes, and then my
Speaker 1: tax dollars pay for their medical care, I mean, where
Speaker 1: are we as well?
Speaker 7: I'm I'm a vapor now again, now that I've had
Speaker 7: my kid, I need some form of advice. So A, uh,
Speaker 7: it's I don't know, it's from China. Oh it's nicotine.
Speaker 2: None of my business. No, I won't. In the show,
Speaker 2: I promised thousands of people, Well, your cigarette thing, though, Joe,
Speaker 2: I think because cigarettes started as partially because they were
Speaker 2: lying to us as something that was practically healthy or
Speaker 2: certainly didn't do you any damage. I think if we
Speaker 2: known what cigarettes were, they're just a poisonous product. That's
Speaker 2: one of the most addictive things ever invented. If you
Speaker 2: started there, there's no way it would be a legal product.
Speaker 2: Is there is there anything else like that that's that deadly?
Speaker 2: With no benefits whatsoever? Nutritional first, quenching, nothing, and it's
Speaker 2: incredibly high, highly addictive. I don't think you could get
Speaker 2: it going.
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably not, But then you have the argument necessarily
Speaker 1: justify of that but go ahead, kittie.
Speaker 7: Well, no, there are just some people that say, like,
Speaker 7: you know, there are elements of nicotine that actually aren't
Speaker 7: bad for you. I know it might be a conspiracy theory,
Speaker 7: but I mean it's the chemicals within the cigarettes that
Speaker 7: create the actual smoke that cause the issue.
Speaker 2: Well, the ultimate point of this article in the Free
Speaker 2: Press is that people's attitudes, whether you agree with them
Speaker 2: or not, are moving more toward pots like cigarettes as
Speaker 2: a product bad for you and used by a small
Speaker 2: number of people regularly, than they are toward alcohol, which
Speaker 2: is what it was compared to my whole life. I
Speaker 2: think that's I wouldn't have guessed that this is where
Speaker 2: we're going to end up. Of course, I wouldn't have
Speaker 2: a guessed that they were going to come up with
Speaker 2: a new way to smoke it with vaping. I wouldn't
Speaker 2: have guessed that it was going to get so much
Speaker 2: stronger than you know what hippies it would stockwords smoking
Speaker 2: is just a different thing.
Speaker 3: Or college students in the eighties.
Speaker 1: Dabbing is how a lot of kids are doing themselves damage.
Speaker 1: I'm told by someone in the know, a method, Yeah,
Speaker 1: consuming cannabis using high potency concentrates like wax, shatter or
Speaker 1: butter vaporized on a hot surface. Extracts contain very high
Speaker 1: THHC levels, typically ranging from sixty to ninety percent.
Speaker 7: I can tell you about that. It's the crystals that
Speaker 7: actually fall off of the plant. Yeah, and then they
Speaker 7: collect those crystals and it turns into this, like you said,
Speaker 7: a wax like product, and they heat it almost like heroin,
Speaker 7: Like you can put it on a piece of foil
Speaker 7: and light it underneath and smoke out of the top
Speaker 7: of it. And I had a buddy almost die from
Speaker 7: that a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 7: I mean, you know, they're finding new ways to utilize it.
Speaker 7: But I also disagree because I've had multiple friends get
Speaker 7: really sick and almost die from just being at the
Speaker 7: bar every single day and drinking too much because it
Speaker 7: poisons you.
Speaker 2: Ohly, sure, you can over drink, you can overdo lots
Speaker 2: of stuff. But the percent, again, a minority of people
Speaker 2: drink daily, whereas with potsmokers it's eighty five percent smokers,
Speaker 2: it's ninety percent.
Speaker 1: Well, and as a guy who quote unquote drinks daily,
Speaker 1: I mean there's just there's practically no I mean, I
Speaker 1: have a Scots when I'm reading Tim Sandifer's book at
Speaker 1: eight thirty at nights, I mean to say I'm a
Speaker 1: danger to myself or anybody else.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's the point of the number. The number.
Speaker 2: The point is no, I get the point that most
Speaker 2: people don't, So why would you ban a product that
Speaker 2: most people aren't doing it daily? And people that do
Speaker 2: daily fine, But if it's only if it's a small
Speaker 2: percentage of people that do something daily, it's well, it's
Speaker 2: kind of a different thing, especially if it's got negative
Speaker 2: health outcomes. So what would you When you get into
Speaker 2: the whole libertarian what should be legal what should not
Speaker 2: be legal? It always gets interesting and complicated, and where
Speaker 2: you draw the line, e right, it always is, which
Speaker 2: is one of the reasons. I guess it's a good
Speaker 2: classroom sort of discussion. But to your cigarettes should be legal, Well,
Speaker 2: then the places that have tried legalizing hard drugs, what's
Speaker 2: the upside the hard drugs existing? That's less than cigarette?
Speaker 2: People who get hooked on cigarettes don't break into my
Speaker 2: car and steal.
Speaker 1: Stuff, all right, It's about externalities absent the welfare state.
Speaker 1: There are very few externalities to cigarette smoke. The whole
Speaker 1: second hand smoke thing was completely overplown. It doesn't do
Speaker 1: you any good. I mean, I don't want to sit
Speaker 1: next to somebody in a car who's chain smoking. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll grant you that. But externalities, if you're not familiar,
Speaker 1: it's thing. What you do affects other people, whether you
Speaker 1: intend to or not. With cigarettes, there's practically none. With
Speaker 1: hard drug use, it's enormous.
Speaker 2: That's a tough one too. On my whole what am
Speaker 2: I a libertarian or not? I hated the idea of
Speaker 2: banning smoking in bars and restaurants just as a because
Speaker 2: in fairy the free market should take care of that.
Speaker 2: You open up a restaurant or bar where we don't
Speaker 2: less smoke, you get more businesses, you get more business
Speaker 2: than the other people. Blah blah blah. But that never happened.
Speaker 2: And I love the fact that I can go into
Speaker 2: a bar and restaurant in California and it's not smoking.
Speaker 2: Whenever I'm in a state where they still allow that,
Speaker 2: and I walk in, it's like this is nuts. It's
Speaker 2: blue and here you can't see the ceiling. What is
Speaker 2: going on? So I don't know, I don't know how
Speaker 2: you figure that out.
Speaker 7: I feel like cigarette smoke is one of those only
Speaker 7: vices that affects everyone around them just physically. If you're
Speaker 7: sitting there banging out of dart, everybody within twenty five
Speaker 7: yards can smell it, breathe it in all of that.
Speaker 2: Indoors is a different way. I shouldn't like it, my
Speaker 2: clothes smelling like it. But anyway, the final point on
Speaker 2: this that they make in the article is in terms
Speaker 2: of polling people's attitudes, that the high point I feel
Speaker 2: part in the expression of people loving the whole marijuana
Speaker 2: movement crusted a few years back, and it's cooling in
Speaker 2: the other direction now. And he says, who knows where
Speaker 2: that ends up? How far does it greater? Who knows?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we probably.
Speaker 1: Ought to start just referring to THHC as opposed to
Speaker 1: pot or marijuana or whatever.
Speaker 2: You think it would be helpful.
Speaker 1: The plant is just a delivery mechanism for the drug,
Speaker 1: and people are you know, dabbing or doing you know,
Speaker 1: concentrates or gummies or whatever.
Speaker 3: It's THHC delivery period. Anyway.
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Speaker 2: I didn't know almost sixty percent of people are for
Speaker 2: banning nicotine products. Now, I didn't know what moved that much.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that I could see that becoming a
Speaker 2: serious issue. If it moves much further, you get to
Speaker 2: seventy seventy five percent.
Speaker 1: My final note on this topic, which is more general
Speaker 1: than that, because I think you're right, is that we
Speaker 1: see in a question of whether you can do something
Speaker 1: or not, creeping socialism really twists the discussion because I've
Speaker 1: got to pay for you, which means I can tell
Speaker 1: you what to do. There are politicians running for office,
Speaker 1: perhaps in a primary today, who want everything to be socialism,
Speaker 1: meaning they can tell you what to do and what
Speaker 1: not to do every moment of your life. Resistant, my friends,
Speaker 1: with everything you've.
Speaker 2: Got, would there be less lay about daily pot smokers,
Speaker 2: if you were gonna starve to death, if you didn't
Speaker 2: support yourself, there would be any thoughts on this text
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Speaker 3: Are strong, he Getty.
Speaker 8: We are in Pacifica, California, Lindamar Beach. We're at the
Speaker 8: World Dogs Surf Championship. There is a whole bunch of
Speaker 8: dogs around the world. Judging goes based on fashion, how
Speaker 8: long the dog has been on the wave, any tricks
Speaker 8: that the dog does, how many waves the dog has caught.
Speaker 3: I took him to the beach, I took my surfboard.
Speaker 3: I'm I gon to a couple of little photos. He
Speaker 3: doesn't get off, and.
Speaker 2: Then I walk over to the beach and I put
Speaker 2: him on a wave and he surfed it. You know,
Speaker 2: it's fun.
Speaker 3: Everybody's having a good time. The dogs are having a
Speaker 3: good time.
Speaker 2: A couple of quick questions. Do the dogs know they're surfing?
Speaker 2: I feel like they don't.
Speaker 1: Scientists studying wild dogs have observed that in the wild
Speaker 1: they surf to gather prey.
Speaker 3: And to bond with the other members of the.
Speaker 2: Pack, and the fashion plays a major part of your score.
Speaker 2: Does the dog pick out the outfit? I feel like
Speaker 2: there's a lot of oh yeah, forcing the dog to
Speaker 2: wear certain clothes and participate in a sport that doesn't
Speaker 2: come naturally to the canine species. Related story, just coincidentally,
Speaker 2: that's PACIFICA right next door, I mean, like really next
Speaker 2: door is Santa Cruz. Yesterday announced the most expensive rental
Speaker 2: in the country, the most expensive place to rent at
Speaker 2: all to live is Santa Cruz, California. California is number
Speaker 2: one in rental costs nationwide as a state. Run on
Speaker 2: that Gavin Newsom you need in California if you want
Speaker 2: to rent a place, you need to make fifty three
Speaker 2: dollars an hour to afford a typical two bedroom home
Speaker 2: in California that's spread out over the whole state. Which
Speaker 2: it's not just the expensive parts, right, fifty three dollars
Speaker 2: an hour to just rent a.
Speaker 3: Place to live two bedroom spot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, affordability. Of course, you got enough money to have
Speaker 2: your dog surf by it, cute outfits.
Speaker 1: It's an expensive hobby from what I understand. Yeah, let's
Speaker 1: see what do we have time for? Not very much
Speaker 1: and a little bonus mail bag here drops to note
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Speaker 1: on the topic of the DSA, which we've been discussing
Speaker 1: today Democratic Socialists of America. They're very out and proud
Speaker 1: about their platform. Seems odd because many of their positions
Speaker 1: are well known to be unpopular. They also seem very
Speaker 1: unaware or unapologetic about how easy it is for the
Speaker 1: concentration of power in their proposed government to accommodate totalitarian
Speaker 1: abuse of that power. I think there's a common thread here.
Speaker 1: They're naive, Well, the useful idiots are. The youngsters certainly
Speaker 1: are not the leaders. But I think they're idealistic and
Speaker 1: convinced that everyone will come around to their way of
Speaker 1: thinking if given the chance. They think they can convince
Speaker 1: most of those who don't like their ideas that they
Speaker 1: are in fact good ideas. They appear to be unaware
Speaker 1: of the risks of eliminating checks and balances from government,
Speaker 1: focusing only on how it will help them carry out
Speaker 1: their agenda. They appear never to have heard about the
Speaker 1: tyranny of the majority. Wonder how much of this owes
Speaker 1: to their being taught a lot more about how our
Speaker 1: system of government comprises evil colonialism, racism, and white supremacy,
Speaker 1: then they were taught about what's extraornally good about it.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, that's absolutely true.
Speaker 2: You've been fighting the battle and losing about people using
Speaker 2: the word capitalism. We really should get away from it.
Speaker 2: I was listening to a podcast yesterday just talking about
Speaker 2: how free market polls twenty thirty forty points ahead of
Speaker 2: capitalism if you ask people questions about socialism versus capitalism,
Speaker 2: as opposed to socialism versus free market, so we should
Speaker 2: stop calling it capitalism.
Speaker 1: By the way, as a player and a coach, I
Speaker 1: embrace the philosophy. Just because you're behind doesn't mean you're losing.
Speaker 1: So I am behind in that argument, but I'm not losing.
Speaker 1: We got a whole nother hour to do an with
Speaker 1: those who crave freedom. Yes, but we do have a
Speaker 1: couple of socialists that are going to get elected today
Speaker 1: because people hate capitalism or love fundamentalist Islam, depends on
Speaker 1: which nominated. Formally speaking, they will be the democratic candidate for.
Speaker 2: A major party, which is crazy. If you miss the
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