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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Stealer Nation. It is the Drive Steelers Nation

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Speaker 2: Radio on the Steelers Audio Network. Was Shooler and Matt

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Speaker 2: Williamson with you here for the next two hours on

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Speaker 2: this Thursday, where Matt. First time this week, I feel

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Speaker 2: like I can breathe a little bit.

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Speaker 3: I feel like, yeah, a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I don't have to be glued to

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Speaker 2: the you know, Twitter or the Free Agency tracker every

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Speaker 2: thirty seconds in a point. There's still plenty that will happen,

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Speaker 2: but and most.

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Speaker 3: Of the news are people you don't really know much

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Speaker 3: about or June one cuts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that kind of thing today, Yeah, the first first

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Speaker 2: day we can breathe a little bit here this week.

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Speaker 3: Yep, got chilli out there though all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: I thought we were passing. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Not a fan of that. No, I'm not looking like

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Speaker 2: it's going to be in the thirties and forties here.

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Speaker 2: But that's the Pittsburgh thing.

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Speaker 4: You get.

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Speaker 2: You get fake spring for about a week and then

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Speaker 2: back the winner for a week or two, and then

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Speaker 2: hopefully before too much longer and a bunch of rain

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Speaker 2: in the meantime. We'll get some warm temperatures here, but yes,

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Speaker 2: plenty of moving and shaking for us to discuss today.

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Speaker 2: We will get to all the news of the day

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Speaker 2: as there's still right.

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Speaker 3: So I mean wave the first waves over. Yes, I

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Speaker 3: mean the title wave of free agency is done. I

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Speaker 3: mean there's some big fish still out there, but there's

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Speaker 3: not huge fish and there's not as many of them.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we'll go over some of those names. We'll lump

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Speaker 2: date on all the latest. We're going to talk to

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Speaker 2: our buddy Brian Baco of the Pittsburgh Post Gazette and

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Speaker 2: now the Steelers Audio Network here in a little bit today, Matt.

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Speaker 2: We've gotten a bunch of tweets from people in the

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Speaker 2: last twenty four to forty eight hours about what's this mean.

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Speaker 2: Now for mock draft purposes, we'll do some of that.

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Speaker 2: Cool with that now in hour number two, I want

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Speaker 2: to look into into some some reception perception deeper scouting.

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Speaker 2: Newest Pittsburgh Steeler wide receiver Michael Pittman JUNR. So plenty

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Speaker 2: to get to as we roll along for the next

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Speaker 2: two hours. We start though, with just some news of

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Speaker 2: the day, some notables. Did you see what Max Crosby

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Speaker 2: tweeted last night.

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Speaker 3: Sort of something like he's happy to be home, or

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Speaker 3: he's a raider or something like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he tweeted everything happens for a reason. Believe nothing

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Speaker 2: you hear in half of what you see. I'm a raider,

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Speaker 2: I'm back run that bleep.

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Speaker 2: Now, a couple of things, A couple of things funny

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Speaker 2: twists and turns of this, and now like, okay, are

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Speaker 2: they keeping them? Are they not even going to try

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Speaker 2: and trade them? Or they're not in a field any

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Speaker 2: phone calls? But also that line believe nothing what you

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Speaker 2: hear in half of what you see? I was like,

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Speaker 2: that's familiar, punched it into the Google machine. Sure, it's

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Speaker 2: an egg Roll and Poe line, which might be a

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Speaker 2: little bit of a backhanded the Baltimore, the Ravens, the

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Speaker 3: Deep I like it.

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Speaker 2: It's not bad by Max Crosby.

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Speaker 3: Huh So. I think Crosby is one of the easiest

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Speaker 3: guys in the league to root for, and now I

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Speaker 3: like him even better because of that. That's awesome. I

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Speaker 3: mean he's off, you see, like up. I mean he's

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Speaker 3: a well known recovering alcoholic and I guess yesterday was

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Speaker 3: like his six years sober. Yeah. And plus the way

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Speaker 3: plays more snaps than any defensive end every year, he

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Speaker 3: never takes one off, plays the run equally as well

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Speaker 3: lot of people are asking, like, what's the difference between

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Speaker 3: have more sacks if he played the run like Henderson.

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Speaker 3: Crosby is an old school you know, set in the edge,

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Speaker 3: I'm kind of rooting for him. And I guess what

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Speaker 3: a conversation earlier about it, is, so what's next for

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Speaker 3: the situation? You know, if I'm the Raiders, there's no

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: I mean maybe if there was a deal on the

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Speaker 3: to be fewer teams now Dallas is out of it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, teams like New England probably aren't as into

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Speaker 3: first and second as opposed to first. Okay, man, we

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Speaker 3: could probably swing that, or you know, maybe put some

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Speaker 3: that work. But if I'm them, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: it's like, do we really have to trade this guy?

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Like do I need picks

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Speaker 3: what happens. I could put him out there in week

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Speaker 3: he ends up with eight sacks and shows the whole

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Speaker 3: world that he's healthy and there's no concerns at all

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Speaker 3: Bills are sitting there going, we've never won a super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: We'll give you anything you want for Max Crosby at

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Speaker 3: the trade deadline. And then the other thing I kind

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Speaker 3: of made the j oh You guys know, my son's

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Speaker 3: home from University of Kentucky for spring break, and we

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Speaker 3: were up way to you late last night. But anyway,

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Speaker 3: he comes home. Every time he comes home, it's like

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Speaker 3: his second or third time coming home from college and

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Speaker 3: quickly realizes life. The Williamson House is a lot more

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Speaker 3: comfy and a lot better than dormlof Sure, dorms of

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Speaker 3: Kentucky are quite nice, but I don't care.

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Speaker 2: How nice your dorm room. It's still a dorm.

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Speaker 3: Room, right. I mean he's six or five, and his

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Speaker 2: Can I say this all all the high school age

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Speaker 2: collegiate career. Yeah, If you go to visit a college

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Speaker 2: how nice their dorm rooms are, scratch that one off

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Speaker 2: your list, all right.

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Speaker 3: It's still a dorm room. Right.

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Speaker 2: When I was that age, and I went to some

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Speaker 2: just brandly new, remodeled dorm rooms. Like I just step

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Speaker 2: step away here, all right, it's still a dorm room.

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Speaker 3: But where I'm going, you know, along those lines like

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Speaker 3: heats caf tiar food all the time. So I picked

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Speaker 3: up stuff after our show yesterday. He was thrilled. Beers

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Speaker 3: a little higher priced at our house than the Kentucky.

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Speaker 3: But my point is he's Max Crosby. Max goes back

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Speaker 3: to the Raiders and be like kinda Linderbaum wasn't here

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Speaker 3: last time I was around. They have these two linebackers

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Speaker 3: Dow doesn't look so bad, Like.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, a new coaching staff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like this isn't the place I left. You know,

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Speaker 3: around anymore. Why am I mad at this coaching staff

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Speaker 3: for getting benched last year when I wanted to finish

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Speaker 3: out the season. That was Pete Carroll. He's long gone.

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Speaker 3: So I thought about that this morning. Right, Yeah, this

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Speaker 3: is awesome. Right, this is better than I thought. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Better than my dorm room and those hockey puckag.

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Speaker 3: Exactly right, right, come home from me.

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Speaker 2: It's like, it's not so bad here there, certainly could

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Speaker 2: be could be some of that. I think that that's

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Speaker 2: definitely a real possibility if if Mendoza ends up and

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Speaker 2: I don't mean hitting like he's got to be a

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Speaker 3: It looks the part.

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Speaker 2: If Mendoza is a is a solid quarterback, if he's

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Speaker 2: a team that you can look around all of a

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Speaker 2: sudden you can go, all right, we could be certainly

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Speaker 2: better this year, and then maybe a year from now

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Speaker 2: we're really making some noise.

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Speaker 3: And maybe Genty's running for thirteen hundred yards and hours

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Speaker 2: Maybe not, and maybe because remember he was out in

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Speaker 2: Baltimore actually when that all went down, maybe he got

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Speaker 2: So interesting it was.

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Speaker 3: It shouldn't be in a hurry. If I'm the Raider.

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Speaker 3: It's not like, oh, now he has to go.

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Speaker 2: Sure, no, but the way he tweets makes it sound

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Speaker 2: certainly hurry here, certainly be something to keep an eye on.

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Speaker 3: They get the money that they do.

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Speaker 2: That's the and you know what, that's the I know

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Speaker 2: the NFL is breathing a big sigh relief.

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Speaker 3: I used this example kind of like what we talked

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Speaker 3: about yesterday. Like let's say Green Bay trades Rashaan Gary

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Speaker 3: to do it. Now, green Bay makes all these moves

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Speaker 3: like the league's really lucky that it didn't go like that. Well,

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Speaker 3: you know, at least the Raiders can withstand the storm

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Speaker 3: of Okay, we can put him back onto the cap

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Speaker 3: and still fit.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it is not great, no, right, but it could

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Speaker 2: have been much worse, much worse. So uh, definitely something

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Speaker 2: that will continue to monitor, continue to keep an eye on.

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Speaker 2: Another thing that caught my eye today. Matt uh Eagles

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Speaker 2: and Landon Dickerson have agreed to a reworked two year

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Speaker 2: contract around thirty six million, four two years. He will

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Speaker 2: get a little bit more this year, but is no

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Speaker 2: longer under contract than twenty twenty eight, which continues to

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Speaker 2: kind of the Philadelphia Eagles offensive line is not necessarily

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Speaker 2: long for the league and very soon could be massively reworked.

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Speaker 3: In a way, it kind of reminds me of Cam

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Speaker 3: Hayward's deal. Now, they're both really good players. Cam's better,

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Speaker 3: he's older, he's more accomplished, blah blah blah. But it

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Speaker 3: kind of implied to me that because there was tok,

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Speaker 3: Lane Johnson. And you're right, the O line is not

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Speaker 2: Right and clearly not June first, right, still the middle

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Speaker 3: There could be of interest. Absolutely, Maybe that's what the

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Speaker 3: Brown's oh lines not in such a disaster as it was.

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Speaker 2: want to dig into a little bit of Matt harmon

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And coincidentally, I was listening to his podcast as

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Speaker 3: I think people are really going to like this rite

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Speaker 2: We'll get into that when we return. Talked to Brian

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Speaker 2: The Pittsburgh Steelers obviously have made a substantial addition at

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Speaker 2: know this by now. But Michael Pittman Junior was traded

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Speaker 2: for is that Monday? I think that was Monday?

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Speaker 2: These last few days of all just sounds right, just

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Speaker 3: Peer Scott signed, and then there's like immediately after he signs. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: A guy that we really like is Matt Harmon.

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Speaker 3: I think he's the best receiver guy out there.

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Speaker 2: He is the creator of Reception Perception. He now works

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Speaker 3: So he's put one out. He starts with putting out

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Speaker 2: Now he'll head to Pittsburgh after the Colts needed to

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Speaker 2: get rid of his salary, especially or essentially part of

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Speaker 2: me choosing Alec Pierce over Pittman going forward. It's a

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Speaker 3: I'll chime in here and there. I do want to

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Speaker 3: that's not a bad problem to have, No, that's not

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Speaker 2: And Matt, when you kind of he breaks this all

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Speaker 3: route stuff is remarkably high. For his success rate on

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Speaker 3: slant routes is remarkably high.

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Speaker 2: Slant routes, flat routes, dig routes. Yes, I mean he is.

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Speaker 3: And that's really well Matt couldn't talk about enough. And

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Speaker 3: this is He's always been a pit I've followed Matt's

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Speaker 3: where since Reception Perception was started, and Pittman's always been

442
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Speaker 3: someone he's always thought has is vastly underrated and still

443
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Speaker 3: does and and tells him a dirty work guy, no block,

444
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Speaker 3: and his hands are consistent. He's always always supposed to be.

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Speaker 3: But as he was talking through it, because this is

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Speaker 3: kind of a generic one, he started talking about it

447
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Speaker 3: the fit with the Steelers, he's like, McCarthy's gonna love

448
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Speaker 3: this guy, and he's a perfect compliment the Metcalf. He's

449
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Speaker 3: not gonna be the over the top, deep post guy.

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Speaker 3: I mean he might run two or three game or whatever,

451
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Speaker 3: but that's not where he's gonna make his money. It's

452
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Speaker 3: gonna be boom boom boom. And then he's like Aaron

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Speaker 3: Rodgers is gonna love this guy.

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Speaker 2: Gonna love this guy when you look at his route

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Speaker 2: tree and where he has sss, that's exactly where Aaron

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Speaker 2: Rodgers likes to throw.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I mean it's a really good fit for assuming

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Speaker 3: Rogers comes back, but either one of those guys in

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Speaker 3: a nutshell, but both together Rogers and McCarthy, he's like

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Speaker 3: custom made for the offense.

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Speaker 2: Ninety one percent success by rap out on slants.

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Speaker 3: So I interrupted all the time. But what's crazy about

463
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Speaker 3: his success rates or all these percentages is Matt only

464
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Speaker 3: does the best receivers in the league, like he didn't.

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Speaker 3: He's not going to do Roman Wilson, He's not. I

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Speaker 3: was just going to say he's not comparing right, Yes,

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Speaker 3: these are all the guys he's done in the database.

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Speaker 3: So if you're like, fifty percent is a lot better

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Speaker 3: than league average, you know what I mean what you're saying,

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Speaker 3: because he's you're comparing against Chase and Jefferson and all

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Speaker 3: these other type of dudes.

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Speaker 2: You're comparing them to the cream of the crop.

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Speaker 3: Yes, not about the scaling.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 2: In fact, three last year the wide receiver threes and

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Speaker 2: fours around the league, and I have.

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Speaker 3: Time to do so many, so I'm going to just

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Speaker 3: do it against my database.

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Speaker 2: Ninety one percent success in the slant routes eighty one percent,

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Speaker 2: in curls eighty one percent, and digs seventy five percent,

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Speaker 2: and comeback routes eighty seven percent in flat routes.

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Speaker 3: And those are just last year.

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Speaker 2: Just last year. And while still I mean fifty to

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Speaker 2: fifty in in go.

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Speaker 3: Routes, yeah, I mean, which is capable, which.

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Speaker 2: Is capable U seventy seven percent when running a post route.

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Speaker 2: I mean, so he still has some good numbers when

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Speaker 2: doing the more down the field stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't do a lot of it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he does not do a lot of it.

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Speaker 3: What he does show the routes, the green ones are

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Speaker 3: the ones he runs a lot of.

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Speaker 2: The RETI it does, curls, flats, and slants, Yeah, are

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Speaker 2: predominantly the most compared to the guy you want to

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Speaker 2: do here, which is the go routes, which is exactly

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Speaker 2: what you wanted. That's what McCarthy's going to want theim

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Speaker 2: to do. That's what Rogers is going to want him

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Speaker 2: to do. That's what's going to pair well with DK metcalf,

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Speaker 2: all that stuff that you hit on. I really like

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Speaker 2: this too. Matt a breakdown of his success rate verse

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Speaker 2: different types of coverage so versus man, vers zone, verse press.

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Speaker 2: He accelerates in all success rate verse man coverage seventy

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Speaker 2: one percent. Success rate verse zone coverage eighty one percent.

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Speaker 2: Success rate vers press man coverage seventy six percent.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's a professional dude that knows how to

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Speaker 3: win in all ways. The zone coverage stuff is what

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Speaker 3: Matt was really harping on, because he's very smart and

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Speaker 3: just understands when to snap his routes. Off Ugh Rogers

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Speaker 3: drills into all his receivers. I think they're going to

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Speaker 3: mix extremely well.

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Speaker 2: Longtime Reception Perception subscribers will know that I've always been

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Speaker 2: a big fan of Pittman's game, dating back to an

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Speaker 2: underrated rookie season. One of my favorite parts about his

514
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Speaker 2: game is that he can credibly play all three wide

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Speaker 2: receiver positions, and that remained the case in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: It's way more important people think X y Z yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Like Matt even said that at the combine, he's like,

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Speaker 3: I hate these receivers that line up in the same spot,

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Speaker 3: same spot, especially when he saw about the draft, Like

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Speaker 3: he lines up on the left spot every time. Usually

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Speaker 3: means they aren't smart enough to do the other stuff

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Speaker 3: or you know, skilled enough to do the other stuff.

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Speaker 3: But he'll do. But he'll do all of it. I mean,

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Speaker 3: he could be your slot. He could do anything.

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Speaker 2: Sixty four and a half percent of his snaps outside

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Speaker 2: on the boundary last season with a dead even split

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Speaker 2: between right and left side. How about that dead split

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Speaker 2: a little over thirty one percent of his snaps in

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Speaker 2: the slot. So again that again exactly even with his

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Speaker 2: left and right split.

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Speaker 3: And they had downs. Who's just a slot, so yeah,

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Speaker 3: he could do whatever you wanted.

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Speaker 2: He was on the line of scrimmage for fifty nine

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Speaker 2: percent of the snaps, off ball for forty two percent

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Speaker 2: of the snaps in the backfield for a little bit

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Speaker 2: there as well. I I love the profile and I

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Speaker 2: love it's a perfect though the well rounded skill set

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Speaker 2: and other Matt says, in other words, Pittman wore a

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Speaker 2: ton of hats for the Colts offense. You'd likely classify

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Speaker 2: him primarily as a flanker, but who could kick inside

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Speaker 2: and be a power slot. He's capable of aligning anywhere

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Speaker 2: he's needed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, And I think that's really really important in

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Speaker 3: this equation because we were asked yesterday with one of

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Speaker 3: our tweets then the show, you know, what kind of

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Speaker 3: receiver do the Steelers need to look for in the draft? Now?

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter, that doesn't matter. The best one is

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Speaker 3: what they need to look That's that's a great eight.

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Speaker 2: Yes, the best one is is is what they need

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Speaker 2: to look for. He says. You definitely can't count on

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Speaker 2: Pittman Junior as a downfield receiver too much at this point,

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Speaker 2: as his success rates on pure vertical patterns like nine routes,

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Speaker 2: outs and corners show. However, everything else is still outstanding

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Speaker 2: for Pittman. He breaks off coverage on horizontal patterns and

555
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Speaker 2: works back to the quarterback, especially against his own coverage

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Speaker 2: on curls and comebacks, like a true professional. He's a

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Speaker 2: quarterback friendly target who can line up anywhere. All thirty

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Speaker 2: teams would like to have a guy like this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. And one thing he said on the podcast

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Speaker 3: it's not in the profile, is he felt and he's

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Speaker 3: watched every route Pittman's ever runs like Pittman's moving as

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Speaker 3: well as he ever did, except in I think it

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Speaker 3: was October he had a hamstring and from that point

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Speaker 3: on he was it affected him, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't like he was a bad player from that

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Speaker 3: point on, but pre injury, he didn't think he was

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Speaker 3: showing any signs of age.

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Speaker 2: And here's kind of the final blurb, and you reference

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Speaker 2: some of this, but Matt Harmon says, the more I've

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Speaker 2: thought about this fit with the Steelers, the more I

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Speaker 2: can't get out of my head that Pittman Junior is

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Speaker 2: an ideal pairing with Aaron Rodgers and Mike McCarthy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: McCarthy's offense is a West Coast system that spreads the

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Speaker 2: field and uses a ton of quick game concepts. Pittman's

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Speaker 2: route chart shows he can win at a high level

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Speaker 2: on those assignments. Rogers also wants to work those concepts

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Speaker 2: often and converts smart players who know where they're supposed

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Speaker 2: and Covet's part of me, smart players who know where

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Speaker 2: they're supposed to be. Pittman's high level play against zone

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Speaker 2: will put the veteran cornerback quarterback in his comfort zone

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Speaker 2: if he is indeed back with Pittsburgh next season. He's

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Speaker 2: the same arc type of Aaron rodgers last favorite Alan Lazard,

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Speaker 2: but a significantly better version. Frankly, he fits better with

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Speaker 2: both of these guys than DK Metcalf does.

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Speaker 3: And the last thing I heard Matt say on the

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Speaker 3: podcast when I turned my car off in the parking

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Speaker 3: lot was he's like Alan Lazard, except he's really good.

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Speaker 3: The beauty of Lazard is always where he's supposed to be,

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Speaker 3: and he's big and he catches everything. Yes, well, he's

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Speaker 3: really good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I I was excited about the Michael Pittman Junior Edition,

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Speaker 2: but after you sent me that email and reading through

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Speaker 2: that and just talking through it with you. Now, I think, man,

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00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 2: that is uh, that's a you're that's what you're looking for.

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Speaker 2: That did barely cost you anything other than I think fair, fair, fair,

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Speaker 2: you know, salary to pay to a guy of his stature,

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Speaker 2: and man, it feels like he will really mesh well

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Speaker 2: with this offense, potentially with Aaron Rodgers, but even if

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Speaker 2: not with Aaron Rodgers, still seems like it's going to

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Speaker 2: be gonna be.

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Speaker 3: A recurrent size of their pass catchers when you mix

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Speaker 3: in Washington Frior Mooth as well, and he's very different

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Speaker 3: than Metcalf despite being similar build. I mean, their style

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Speaker 3: of play is not the same. With respect to d

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Speaker 3: K Rogers Smith, the team forced DKA to do more

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Speaker 3: of this Pittman stuff that we just read than he

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Speaker 3: probably would have been comfortable with, you know, like, and

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Speaker 3: he showed you could do a lot of it, I

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Speaker 3: mean slants and things like that too. But I want

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Speaker 3: Metcalf down field, yes, you know what I mean. Yes,

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Speaker 3: And that was another thing Harmon mentioned about Pierce. He's like,

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Speaker 3: I understand why they picked Pierce over Pittman, but Pittman

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Speaker 3: helped Pierce way more than the other way around when

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Speaker 3: they both are on the field, because he does all

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Speaker 3: the dirty work and Pierce allowed it allowed Pierce to

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Speaker 3: get a lot of one on ones downfield, and now

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Speaker 3: he's super rich because you know what I mean. It's

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Speaker 3: the way it works.

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Speaker 2: It's the way it works. Yeah, let's take our last

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Speaker 6: so far. You know, Wes, you know me and Matt

654
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Speaker 6: you might know this too. Like I don't really get

655
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Speaker 6: too much into the other sports. I'm pretty much all NFL,

656
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 6: all Steelers, all the time. Part of that's just my

657
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 6: job covering them at the Post gazette, and you know,

658
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 6: people who know me personally or you know, read some

659
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Speaker 6: of my stuff will be like, oh, are you you.

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Speaker 4: Know down in Bradenton or anything. I'm like, No, I

661
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 4: don't do anything with the pirates. I don't have to

662
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Speaker 4: worry about any of that. In the NFL. As you

663
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Speaker 4: guys definitely know, is it's twenty four to seven.

664
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Speaker 6: The cycle is always cranking anyway, So you can still

665
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Speaker 6: keep plenty busy in that.

666
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Speaker 4: I've been doing that on the airwaves, no doubt.

667
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Speaker 2: Well, let's let's kind of get into it then. Here.

668
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Speaker 2: I think a few significant moves by the Steelers this week,

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Speaker 2: namely the trade acquisition of Michael Pittman junior, signing veteran

670
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Speaker 2: cornerback Jamel Dean from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and then

671
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 2: adding back to back third teen hundred yards from scrimmage

672
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Speaker 2: running back Rico Doubtell, do you have a move of

673
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 2: those three that stands out as your favorite to this point?

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Speaker 6: I mean, I think they're all pretty tough to really

675
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Speaker 6: find fault with or quibble with. I think they're all

676
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Speaker 6: pretty sound acquisitions, but the Pittman one was probably the

677
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Speaker 6: most notable to me. I thought it was the one

678
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Speaker 6: that probably required the most creativity from Omar Kahn and

679
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 6: sort of out thinking maybe some of the other gms

680
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Speaker 6: out there, you know, the free agents, the unrestricted guys.

681
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Speaker 6: Everybody's got that cheat sheet in front of them. But

682
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Speaker 6: I think sometimes it actually takes pounding the pavement a

683
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Speaker 6: little bit to find a good.

684
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Speaker 4: Value like Pittman.

685
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Speaker 6: And I also just think he fits what they want

686
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Speaker 6: to do here as well. I think he fits what

687
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 6: you know, Mike McCarthy's offenses is going to do. And

688
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 6: he makes a lot of sense from a character and

689
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Speaker 6: vibe standpoint in Steelers' locker room as well.

690
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Speaker 4: We haven't always been able to say that with.

691
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Speaker 6: Receiver acquisitions over the years, but I really like the

692
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Speaker 6: Pittman ad.

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Speaker 3: So let's talk left guard. What do you what are

694
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Speaker 3: your thoughts there? Do you think they're comfortable going in

695
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Speaker 3: with Anderson in a third round pick? Do you think

696
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Speaker 3: they still could be in the market for Wyatt Teller

697
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Speaker 3: or Joel Batonio or some other veteran. I mean, do

698
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Speaker 3: you think there's more shoes? There's definitely another shoe to

699
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Speaker 3: drop there. What were you get on that? Yeah, because

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Speaker 3: I mean.

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Speaker 4: Just listening as you're asking Mad. I mean, I know, I.

702
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Speaker 6: Don't think they'd be comfortable with just Spencer Anderson in

703
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Speaker 6: a in a rookie, even if it's a second round

704
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Speaker 6: or a third round, because I think when you get

705
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Speaker 6: into comfort, but you need more than just a couple

706
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Speaker 6: options there. And that's why I think they will ultimately

707
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Speaker 6: go with a veteran. But I don't know if it's

708
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Speaker 6: going to be one of those bigger names.

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Speaker 4: That you threw out there.

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Speaker 6: I think, you know, kind of paying attention and staying

711
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Speaker 6: ahead on the comp pick formula is clearly something that

712
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Speaker 6: that Omar Khan has been good at doing these last

713
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Speaker 6: couple of years. It's it's like he's it's like he's

714
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Speaker 6: microwaving something with his left hand and he's got a

715
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Speaker 6: slow cooker, he's got chill going with his right hand

716
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Speaker 6: on the stovetop to make sure that, hey, we're not

717
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Speaker 6: going to be behind the eight ball.

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Speaker 4: We're not gonna get.

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Speaker 6: Left out of the party again in twenty twenty seven

720
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Speaker 6: if this quarterback draft class turns out to be legit.

721
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Speaker 6: So I think he's done a good job of keeping

722
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Speaker 6: his foot in both of those streams. So I think

723
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Speaker 6: they'll go out and get somebody else who's NFL capable.

724
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Speaker 6: I think Spencer Anderson is NFL capable.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to short.

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Speaker 6: Sell him, but you know, just with his versatility, he's

727
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Speaker 6: probably suited as a sixth man who can fill in

728
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Speaker 6: when needed, versus being the the everyday guy. So I

729
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Speaker 6: do think they'll draft one too, because I think it

730
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Speaker 6: also makes a ton of sense to get another younger

731
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Speaker 6: guy who can grow and develop with. And you know

732
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Speaker 6: this will make you feel old, but Zach Frazier, Mason mcormick,

733
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Speaker 6: troyth I thought it there soon to be the older

734
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Speaker 6: guys on the OW.

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Speaker 3: We were talking about that yesterday. You might not be

736
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Speaker 3: able to bring all three back. I mean, you better

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Speaker 3: draft the guard because maybe McCormick will be gone in

738
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Speaker 3: a two years or whatever, you know, and I guess.

739
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Speaker 6: With Atano at least a fifty year option. Maybe you'll

740
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Speaker 6: be able to stagger it a little bit with those

741
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Speaker 6: three guys.

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Speaker 3: But you can't imagine Fraser ever going anywhere exactly.

743
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Speaker 6: That's not if anything to say about it right right way, Wes.

744
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 6: I mean, you know one thing I know about you.

745
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 6: You're a man of wealth and taste, but you're also

746
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Speaker 6: a man of West Virginia football. What do you make

747
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 6: of Gino going back to where he started? I mean,

748
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Speaker 6: does he have anything left in the tank to help

749
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Speaker 6: the Jets or is it or is it kind of

750
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 6: lights out time?

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00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 2: Now? Now listen, mister Baco. I know you're the real

752
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 2: reporter amongst the three of us, but we asked the

753
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 2: questions around here. Okay, no, we we did talk about

754
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Speaker 2: it a little bit. I'm a little worried that it's

755
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Speaker 2: going to go south and then all this kind of

756
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 2: goodwill that Gino built up towards the end of his

757
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 2: time in Seattle and they wrote me off and I

758
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 2: didn't right back though, and being a nice story is

759
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,399
Speaker 2: going to get forgotten by a terrible year in Las

760
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Speaker 2: Vegas and a terrible year in New York. I am.

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Speaker 2: I am a little worried about that. Do you think

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Speaker 2: do you think I'm correcting my concern there?

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Speaker 6: Well on the surface, yes, because even like when when

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Speaker 6: Ed and I were talking on our show about we

765
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Speaker 6: did a Steelers Week one quarterback starter draft where we

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Speaker 6: each picked five guys that you know, we're just trying

767
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Speaker 6: to get the starter right. And sure I didn't have

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Speaker 6: Gino on my list because I'm like, Number one, I

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Speaker 6: don't think the Steelers would would really be interested in

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Speaker 6: going that route.

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Speaker 4: Number two, he might be cooked.

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Speaker 6: But then I started thinking, I'm like, look at how

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Speaker 6: bad that Raiders team was.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's what Matt's been saying too, right.

775
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Speaker 6: Like, so maybe maybe we're writing him off too early again.

776
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Speaker 6: But yeah, it's it's gonna be a tall order two

777
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Speaker 6: to to make this Jets squad relevant as well. So

778
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Speaker 6: he sort of goes from one out house to another.

779
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Speaker 6: But yeah, I'm just just curious to pick your brain

780
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Speaker 6: on next when I really started thinking, man Gino is

781
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Speaker 6: trying to be a miracle worker for arguably the worst

782
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Speaker 6: team in the league a year ago.

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Speaker 4: Maybe maybe we shouldn't be completely out on him just yet.

784
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Speaker 3: So I assume Rogers was the first pick in your

785
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Speaker 3: quarterback draft. Was Will Howard second? Or Kyler Murray or

786
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Speaker 3: who else? Who else was high picks?

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Speaker 6: So we we both took a five man, you know,

788
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Speaker 6: team of sorts, and I think I won the coin

789
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Speaker 6: toss and and asked, ed, does he want the Earth? No,

790
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Speaker 6: I took the first pick and let ed get the

791
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,399
Speaker 6: next two, like pick up basketball stop, So of course

792
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Speaker 6: I went Roger. Yeah, of course I went Rogers first,

793
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Speaker 6: and I was shocked because I thought the next logical

794
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 6: move for anyone would be you get the other two

795
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Speaker 6: guys under contract, Howard and Rudolph. But I think Ed

796
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,439
Speaker 6: picked Kyler Murray. And you know this was last week,

797
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Speaker 6: so I think he took Malik Willis as well.

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Speaker 3: Okay are the big cuts.

799
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Speaker 6: So then I ended up with will Howard, and then

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Speaker 6: I somehow ended up with Mason Rudolph.

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Speaker 4: So suffice to say, I feel great.

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Speaker 6: That on my list of five, I have the Steelers

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Speaker 6: twenty twenty six week one starter.

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Speaker 3: You at least have two that will be in Latrobe.

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Speaker 3: It's a good start.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe I'd be shocked if not.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and the other guys that I know Ed had

808
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Speaker 6: a well, some of his are already kind of d

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Speaker 6: o A. I mean, as we said, I think he

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Speaker 6: had Snoop punt Ley. I'm like, well, in theory ed

811
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Speaker 6: the Steelers could trade for him before week one, but yeah,

812
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Speaker 6: that looks very unlikely. Of course, Malik Willis, we know

813
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Speaker 6: he's going to be in Miami for sure. And I

814
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Speaker 6: think my other two where I went safe again, I

815
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 6: went for singles. I think I had Carson Wentz and

816
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Speaker 6: Kirk Cousins m backup plans if ye, yeah, well, if

817
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Speaker 6: Rogers doesn't doesn't play next year, then all bets are

818
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Speaker 6: off and I'd be going with the familiarity of a

819
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Speaker 6: Brian Angelico or something along those lines.

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Speaker 4: But we shall see.

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Speaker 6: I'd still be I don't know about you, guys, I'd

822
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Speaker 6: still be shocked if Rogers isn't the guy.

823
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna I was gonna say I had

824
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Speaker 2: a feeling that that was that that was your opinion,

825
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 2: but good to good to hear it from you. It

826
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Speaker 2: is Brian Bacho with the Seers Steelers Audio Network host

827
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Speaker 2: the Steelers Standard. With that troop also covers your Pittsburgh

828
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 2: Stullers for the Pittsburgh Post Caazette. Uh, Bacco, first wave

829
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 2: of free agency is over. You know things have slowed

830
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 2: down a little bit, but obviously there is still that

831
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Speaker 2: second and third wave. There are still some names out

832
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 2: there that you know, aren't maybe trophy fish that you're

833
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 2: gonna hang on the wall, but still significantly sized fish.

834
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Speaker 2: Matt asked you about guard and I still think offensive line.

835
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Speaker 2: I think that's probably the most likely next move that

836
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 2: we could see the Steelers make, But are there any

837
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 2: other areas that you're keeping an eye on or you

838
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 2: may be looking at the other side of the trenches

839
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Speaker 2: for defensive line, would you like to see the Steelers

840
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 2: add a safety? You know, I know they did add

841
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Speaker 2: Darnell Savage, but do you think there can still be

842
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 2: something in the secondary, maybe not just safety specific, but

843
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 2: any other areas where you'd still be interested in adding

844
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,919
Speaker 2: As we hit kind of this second and third wave

845
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Speaker 2: of free agency with the draft still what six or

846
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Speaker 2: seven weeks.

847
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Speaker 6: Away, wellad does quarterback count because the agent, so let's

848
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 6: say it does. He said he said at the end

849
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Speaker 6: of last season.

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Speaker 4: How did he put it?

851
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 6: He's like, yeah, I'll be a free agent. So it

852
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 6: was a one year deal. Obviously both sides under band

853
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 6: the dynamics there, but yeah, we'll throw that out of course. Yeah,

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00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 6: I mean I think interior offensive line, no doubt, especially

855
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 6: since Ryan McCollum. It's sort of quietly low key, just

856
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 6: you know, been that guy the last couple of years.

857
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 6: He became the new BJ Finny, the new j C.

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Speaker 6: Hass and I so if he's not back, they'll have

859
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Speaker 6: to get somebody else in those shoes.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean safety.

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Speaker 6: I feel like Darnell Savage is, you know, he's probably

862
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 6: more of a Chuck Clark Jabrill Pepper's type of replacement

863
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 6: rather than someone who you're actually going to see out

864
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 6: there a lot. I know, Kevin Colbert always used to

865
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Speaker 6: say they want to have twenty two. They want to

866
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Speaker 6: feel like they have twenty two starters before the draft,

867
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Speaker 6: so you know, a starter caliber player at every position.

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Speaker 6: I'm not sure they have that right now at safety, barring,

869
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 6: of course, the wild card that is Jalen Ramsey and

870
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Speaker 6: where they'll use him.

871
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 3: But I think that was actually my question for you.

872
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 3: Do you think he's a slaughter a free.

873
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 6: I think either one. But I think it would make

874
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,760
Speaker 6: more sense to use him as that big slot because.

875
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 4: You get more of the blitzing.

876
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 6: I think he's yeah, and I think he's so good

877
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 6: at at the pass rush component of it when you

878
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 6: ask him to do it. So but but hey, I

879
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 6: could see him making the full time transition to safety

880
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 6: to There were a lot of times last year, Matt,

881
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,720
Speaker 6: like you know, midweek or whatever, when that transition happened

882
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 6: after the Colts game that you know, Ramsey's kind of

883
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 6: a tough nut to crack in those interviews, those those

884
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 6: scrums on Fridays after practice. But I really wanted to

885
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 6: try to like just drill down a little bit on

886
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 6: hey man, you've identified as a shutdown corner for what

887
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 6: probably the last fifteen years of your life, if not

888
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 6: more like, where's your head head at in terms of

889
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 6: maybe I'm not that anymore? And how difficult is it

890
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 6: to sort of uproot that whole?

891
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 4: Uh? I guess self image if you will, so, yeah,

892
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 4: I'll be curious.

893
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 3: Roberts, Charles Woods and you know, yeah.

894
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 2: Sure, backo, what do you make of the big NFL

895
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 2: story of the week. Of course, I feel like it's

896
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 2: a requisite requirement now if you do anything in football media,

897
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 2: you got to at least talk about this for a

898
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 2: few minutes. Of course, the Max Crosby trade drama, the

899
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,720
Speaker 2: agreement with Baltimore, and then the you know, the failed

900
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 2: physical and now he's in staying in Las Vegas and

901
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 2: or at least back with Las Vegas and tweeting now

902
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,240
Speaker 2: that he's staying and throwing in a nice egg Growland

903
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 2: Poe quote in there too is a kind of a

904
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 2: backhand towards Baltimore. Don't let that go unnoticed. This has

905
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 2: just been a wild situation, and Matt and I you know,

906
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,919
Speaker 2: obviously talked about it plenty more earlier in the week.

907
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 2: But I feel like this is something that's going to linger.

908
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 2: This is something that's not going to go away. It

909
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 2: might be a big talking point at the NFL owners meetings,

910
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 2: the league meetings here in a few weeks. What do

911
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 2: you make of all this?

912
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 6: I feel like it's one of those deals where the

913
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 6: Ravens are you know, however you feel about their I

914
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:55,240
Speaker 6: guess ethics here. They probably view it as, look, there's

915
00:41:55,320 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 6: a set structure here, roles that you can and can't break,

916
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 6: and everything we did is within the allowable structure and

917
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:10,399
Speaker 6: the legalities of this process. If you don't like that,

918
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 6: maybe change the process.

919
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 4: Like I think we've probably all.

920
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 6: Been in, you know, fantasy leagues or something with guys

921
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 6: where they're they're fined in every loophole they can. You know,

922
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 6: they're bend, they're bending roles, but they're staying within the

923
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 6: framework of what's permitted.

924
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 4: And it's annoying.

925
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 6: But sometimes it's annoying because you weren't the one to

926
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 6: think of it, or you didn't exploit it first. So

927
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 6: I don't necessarily blame them. I we'll never know what

928
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 6: to believe, right, you can't really be in Eric the

929
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 6: Costa's head unless somebody wire tapped their closed door meetings.

930
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 6: But we'll never really know where their head was out

931
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 6: on the whole cold Feet thing with Crosby and the

932
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 6: Hendrickson market shaping up as it did. But I think

933
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 6: if there's any sort of fallout here, it's gonna be.

934
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

935
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 4: Maybe the NFL just needs to sort of rethink how.

936
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,479
Speaker 6: This works and maybe cut down the lag time between

937
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 6: agreed on terms and deals and when they can be

938
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 6: made an official So yeah, definitely bizarre. Got me back

939
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 6: to thinking of some Steelers situations like this. You know,

940
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 6: Tyson Alawatu yep, for sure, you know, not nearly as

941
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 6: high profile, but even guys like Larry Ogan Jobie, who

942
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 6: they only ended up in Pittsburgh because he failed a

943
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 6: physical I believe with the Bears.

944
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's great, have to be a contract.

945
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, and then and then the Steelers brought him in

946
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 6: so u and even some of the guys they've drafted,

947
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 6: you know that Peyton Wilson, he had a well documented,

948
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 6: lengthy injury history in college Darnell Washington. There were kind

949
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,439
Speaker 6: of whispers I guess more about him and in red

950
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 6: flags at the combine, but the Steelers took both with confidence,

951
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 6: and I would say I have hit on both thus far.

952
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 3: We've talked at the no end, but the Costa came

953
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 3: out I think today and said, my job is to

954
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 3: put the best team on the field for the Ravens,

955
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 3: and I think he did that. You know, I'd rather

956
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 3: have Hendrickson and two first than Crosby, not just.

957
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 6: The best team on the field for the Ravens, but

958
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 6: the overall health of the organization, right.

959
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

960
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 4: Of course is always is always.

961
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 6: The team that you're putting on the field for the

962
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 6: next season or the next game. But what's the team

963
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 6: you're gonna put on the field a year from now,

964
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 6: and a year after that and a year after that.

965
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 6: So they're they're factoring all of those considerations, and I

966
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 6: don't know. I still think I liked the trade for

967
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 6: them when it looked like it was headed that way.

968
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 6: I didn't blame them for finally saying, you know what,

969
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 6: we've built a ton through the draft, We've invested a

970
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 6: ton of first rounders. It's time to push some more

971
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 6: chips in the middle and get over this hump with

972
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 6: Lamar with a real game wrecker. If Hendrickson can still

973
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 6: be that, then absolutely, I think this is a better

974
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 6: path for them. What I really want out of this now, guys,

975
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 6: is Crosby.

976
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 4: Back to the Raiders.

977
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 6: Maybe that team's a little more fun, a little bit

978
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 6: more entertaining.

979
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 4: I guess this is cliche.

980
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 6: I feel like the NFL is better when the Raiders

981
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 6: are relevant. You know, They're just one of those fan

982
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 6: bases that's so historic. I'd say the same things about,

983
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:58,720
Speaker 6: you know, the Steelers if I was in another market,

984
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 6: or you know, the path Ers or somebody like that.

985
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 6: So I want to see Mendoza and Max Crosby. Can

986
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 6: we get like a mini series on those two guys

987
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 6: hanging out? Can you think of two more different personalities.

988
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 2: I'm just expecting Mendoza after a year in that locker

989
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,919
Speaker 2: room with Max Crosby will have like tattoos all over

990
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 2: his neck and his knuckles and and everything will be

991
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 2: all tatted up. Though that's a great call.

992
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 4: I'm black and Miles there.

993
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 2: There certainly is. There's certainly some Vegas maybe casinos or

994
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 2: gambling companies that should be looking to uh to sponsor

995
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 2: a podcast between those two. For sure, that'd be a lot.

996
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 6: Of He's gonna be like his older cousin. He's gonna

997
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 6: be like his older cousin that you'd hang out with

998
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,760
Speaker 6: when they visit, you know, once a year or something

999
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 6: in the summer, and like when they leave, you're you.

1000
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 4: You've gone from a boy to a man.

1001
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 6: So yeah, I want that buddy cop comedy for Crosby

1002
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 6: uh In Mendoza.

1003
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Speaker 2: Like my older cousin Jared, who was four years older

1004
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 2: than me, we.

1005
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 4: All got one right.

1006
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 2: Used to used to used to leave me cases of

1007
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,479
Speaker 2: Iron City beer in my little trunk of my mas

1008
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 2: to three whenever he would come visit before he would

1009
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 2: head be friends before he would head back home to

1010
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 2: Northern Virginia. Brian Beco also, good friend, dude, are you

1011
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 2: just talking to us on your cell phone right but

1012
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,280
Speaker 2: right now, by the way, because the connection sounds phenomenal.

1013
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 2: It sounds like you're in studio with us almost.

1014
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 4: I am not, but I certainly could be.

1015
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Speaker 2: Kind of what kind of cell phone you thought?

1016
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 3: Oh?

1017
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Speaker 2: Okay, well, very good sounding, great good information, good connection.

1018
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Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers didn't rub off on me with the wired headphones. Guys,

1019
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 6: I'm still I like the convenience of bluetoobth What can

1020
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Speaker 6: I say?

1021
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Speaker 2: Video producer Tyler who who you know as well. Baco

1022
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Speaker 2: is holding up his wired headphones over here. He's been

1023
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Speaker 2: he's been converted. That you hold strong, my friend, because

1024
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Speaker 2: you sound great and happy to have you here in

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Speaker 2: the Steelers Audio Network family. Thanks for taking the time

1026
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Speaker 2: for us.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, talk to you guys again soon.

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Speaker 2: There he goes Brian Becko, great stuff with him as always.

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Speaker 2: That's an hour in the books. Another hour to go.

1030
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Speaker 2: We're gonna get to some of your tweets. We're gonna

1031
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Speaker 2: do some mock draft conversation and keep an eye on

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Speaker 2: all the latest news. Continuing to roll across the timeline.

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Speaker 2: Here in hour number two, Yuler Williamson, It's the Drive

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Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.