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Speaker 1: Welcome to Sharper's Square, presented by hard Rock bet. We

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Speaker 1: are part of the Volume Podcast Network. This is the

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Speaker 1: show that makes the squares. Sharper makes the wise guys

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Speaker 1: pay attention. I am Chad Millman. I'm joined as always

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Speaker 1: by my BFF, my companion, Mike byre professional Better, my

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Speaker 1: co host, Simon Hunter Heado, Simon Chad.

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Speaker 2: Happy year to you, my friend, how you doing.

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Speaker 1: Happy year to you, Happy New Year to Matt Mitchell,

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Speaker 1: Happy new Year to all of our friends and listeners

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Speaker 1: and watchers who have spent the season with us, who

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Speaker 1: found us anew in the Sharper Square world, who came

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Speaker 1: with us from the old world. We are incredibly appreciative

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Speaker 1: and lucky as we kick off twenty twenty six. Good

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Speaker 1: Lord twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't sound real yet. I definitely had one

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Speaker 2: of those moments last night. We were just saying out loud.

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Speaker 2: I turned to my friend and I said, it is

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Speaker 2: weird every time you hear that we're closer now to

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Speaker 2: twenty fifty than we are to the year two thousand,

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Speaker 2: or the year two thousand. Doesn't Oh my god, the

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Speaker 2: year twenty fifty sounds like a different lifetime. So it's

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Speaker 2: kind of a mind fuck right now thinking about that.

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Speaker 1: Twenty fifty is cosmic. Dude, I don't even know how

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Speaker 1: that well, let's see twenty fifty. I can't even say

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Speaker 1: how old i'll be, Simon, you might be. You might

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Speaker 1: be doing this show on your own. By that.

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Speaker 2: I doubted chat. I keep saying people like you that

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Speaker 2: live on bird feed, they live to one.

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Speaker 1: Hundred years, twenty fifty.

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Speaker 2: In all my cloud arteries.

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Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna say. All I know is that

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Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna say twenty fifty eighty. I can't

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Speaker 1: even I can't even see the number. I won't be eighty,

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Speaker 1: but I won't be that far off.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you really want to. I'll be your age basically.

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Speaker 1: Dude, you'll be older than me.

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Speaker 2: I'll basically be right around sixty.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm not sixty.

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Speaker 2: I know. It's just fun making fun of you.

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Speaker 1: That's hurtful. Those are hurtful things to say as we

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Speaker 1: kick off the new year, as BFFs, Hey listen today,

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Speaker 1: no matter where you are, no matter what you're doing,

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Speaker 1: we are all hoosiers. That's all I'm going to say,

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Speaker 1: except I'm also going to say, for those who are

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Speaker 1: like grappling with Indiana's college football dominance, welcome to the club.

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Speaker 1: If you're joining us in Who's your nation? You're wondering

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Speaker 1: what a hoosier is? I wish I could tell you.

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Speaker 1: I took an entire class on it when I went

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Speaker 1: to Indiana University. I still don't know. It could be

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Speaker 1: some nickname from a poem a guy in Indiana wrote.

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Speaker 1: It could be a saying from Jolly Old England, Simon,

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Speaker 1: about like depicting strength and woodsman. It could be because

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Speaker 1: a guy who owned a lot of land in the

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Speaker 1: state of Indiana was named John Hoosier, and everyone who

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Speaker 1: worked for him called themselves Hoosiers. It doesn't matter today, Simon.

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Speaker 1: You're a hoosier. Matt Mitchell is a Hoosier. I'm a hoosier.

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Speaker 1: Go I you fight, Fight, Fight?

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Speaker 2: What about Chad? The trend of off of bye in

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Speaker 2: the college playoffs do not like.

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Speaker 1: What I've seen so far, with the teams getting the buys.

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Speaker 1: It's not a good trend at all, Simon. We saw

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Speaker 1: it again last night with Ohio State losing to Miami.

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Speaker 1: Great game by Miami. Hopefully Kurt Signetti gets to repeat

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Speaker 1: the words of Miami coach that he said last night.

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Speaker 2: But hats off to our guys for being some tough

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Speaker 2: ass suns of bitches.

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Speaker 1: Tough ass sons of bitches, that's what we are for

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Speaker 1: doing a week eighteen episode on Thursday on New Year's

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Speaker 1: Day in the morning, because we are dedicated, we're professional.

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Speaker 1: We're going to do our stinking job. Tough ast sons

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we bus should be up on a couch right

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Speaker 2: now watching stranger Things, getting ready for this college football day.

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Speaker 2: But instead, the never ending wheel that is the NFL

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Speaker 2: continues to roll. My friend, we gotta get to it.

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Speaker 1: No, Simon, we should be on the peloton working off

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Speaker 1: the olive oil cake that we ate last night. All right, reminders,

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Speaker 1: get into this every week. We give our picks every week,

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Speaker 1: even in the holiday season. Simon's fellow professional betters, the

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Speaker 1: wise guys are going to give us some feedback, So

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Speaker 2: Have to answer this boat, all right, telephone ring maybe lead, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: there's always Let's start where we differ. The pros absolutely

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Speaker 2: Every pro I've talked to, they love the Giants here

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Speaker 2: a game that I might simply just be missing Seattle Seahawks.

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Speaker 2: I cannot believe the pros are hammering Sam Darnold as

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Speaker 2: the books have taken a stand now they're holding firm

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Speaker 1: Hi, So everyone check it out Sunday morning. We're on

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Speaker 1: the air. YouTube watch it, Sharper Square. I'm really excited

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Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers are going to be our brass balls

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Speaker 1: what it takes brass balls. To me, it came down

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Speaker 1: Nobody cares about it, NFC South, Like, how do we

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Speaker 1: especially on a trend. Three weeks ago, we're on them,

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Speaker 1: Let's just be consistent. Let's do everyone service and be

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Speaker 2: of this right, this will be give all the stat

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Speaker 2: one more time. Carolina seven zero against the spread after

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Speaker 2: a straight up loss, covering over almost twelve points per

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Speaker 2: game in this exact spot. Since nineteen ninety, no team

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Speaker 2: on history here, can never avoid it. Really unique spot

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Speaker 2: with this Panthers team. Yeah, I really found it interesting

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Speaker 2: it really was because their schedule was easy. But we've

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Speaker 2: we just do not trust Sam Darnold and you've seen it.

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Speaker 2: basically if you're back in theoxy, you are simply back

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Speaker 2: because you're right Hoosiers. You guys are number one right now. Baby.

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Speaker 2: Today you might not end that way, but today, as

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Speaker 1: I'm going to enjoy it. Listen, people dismiss the Midwest.

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Speaker 2: Chris Farley changed my opinion about the Midwest. That's why

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Speaker 2: But you know, the Saints have always found a way

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Speaker 2: So U plus three and a half with this kid

431
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Speaker 2: and this offensive way they've been moving the ball, I

432
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:24,680
Speaker 2: feel like we always have the opportuny to get the

433
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Speaker 2: back door here. So I really, I really was hoping

434
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Speaker 2: that maybe I could talk myself out of this one

435
00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 2: if it's stay at two and a half, but the

436
00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,440
Speaker 2: fact that it's three and a half never gonna avoid it.

437
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 2: Love this number for this Saints team, and they've just

438
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:36,880
Speaker 2: been absolutely covering machine down the stretch here.

439
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Speaker 1: Simon. I think what you're saying about Kirk Cousins when

440
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Speaker 1: you watch them on film right now, and the way

441
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Speaker 1: he's able to push off is.

442
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Speaker 2: You like that.

443
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:47,440
Speaker 1: Do you get it?

444
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:48,919
Speaker 2: I do, But I thought it was gonna know other

445
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 2: hoosier reference. I'm kind of heartbroken. I thought you're gonna

446
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 2: bring it back to the Who's years.

447
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Speaker 1: I'll find a way.

448
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 2: You needn't.

449
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Speaker 1: Don't you worry. It's twenty twenty six, my friend, new year,

450
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 1: the name sense of humor. Don't worry about me because

451
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 1: I'm so old. I can't change, right, can.

452
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Speaker 2: Change your body. DNA totally changes every seven years. I

453
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 2: believe it, totally reed. Does you can change that? You

454
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,399
Speaker 2: choose not to change. Unfortunately that's the problem.

455
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Speaker 1: Well, now you really do sound like my wife. Cleveland

456
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:26,680
Speaker 1: at Cincinnati. Cincinnati is a seven and a half point favorite.

457
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Speaker 1: I don't see how we're walking away from this. Like

458
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Speaker 1: the in the last forty eight hours, I love this

459
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Speaker 1: game even more. I might bet some altlines in Cincinnati.

460
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Speaker 1: I just think they're gonna go out there and fling it.

461
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 1: They don't give a shit. They can say they're building

462
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Speaker 1: on next year, it doesn't matter. Joe Burrow just wants

463
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 1: to go out and have a good time and play

464
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Speaker 1: some ball and end the year on a high note

465
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Speaker 1: and sling it to Jamar Chase and forty two. That's

466
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Speaker 1: my call.

467
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Speaker 2: Now, did something happen that made you like it more?

468
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Speaker 2: You just just like it because you like it more.

469
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:01,640
Speaker 1: I like it because I like him.

470
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Speaker 2: I don't know if I miss miss something, but yeah,

471
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 2: I'm right there with you. Like I talked, this is

472
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 2: the exact type of game that Cincinnati just goes all out,

473
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 2: plays hard. Their offense has been rolling. I know they

474
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Speaker 2: did have that horrible game, Like you said, Joe Burrow

475
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 2: was contemplating a life and if he's happier or not,

476
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 2: and then went out and totally put up zero against

477
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:23,400
Speaker 2: a Ravens defense that has been suspect all season. Since then,

478
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 2: he's you know, he's been lighted up and that's just

479
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 2: what we expected Joe Burrow. When he's got Chase Higgins

480
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 2: both playing, it's an offense that's an absolute juggernaut. The

481
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Speaker 2: only thing that's been missing was the blocking. And you know,

482
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Speaker 2: I keep talking about the offensive line. You're gonna look

483
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 2: at the numbers since Joe Flacco took over, they've been

484
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Speaker 2: at top fifteen some weeks, top ten offensive line of

485
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 2: pass protection, which is just blowing my mind when I

486
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 2: look at this team, and it really has been the interior,

487
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 2: like the guards have been playing better. Everything just really

488
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 2: impressive how the Bengals have turned around that offensive line.

489
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 2: And if you're a Bengals fan, maybe another thing you

490
00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:59,639
Speaker 2: could picture Joe Burrow to'd be like you got to

491
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Speaker 2: come back next year. Right the offensive line we've totally rebuilt.

492
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 2: It's better where it felt like two weeks ago his

493
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 2: foot was kind of out the door, like he was

494
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 2: leaving it open to be like I can move on

495
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Speaker 2: potentially next year where I think he'd come back. This

496
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 2: exact type of game where we talked about chat. This

497
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 2: is a type of game they'll win big to kind

498
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Speaker 2: of launch off into the offseason of like see momentum

499
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,159
Speaker 2: we ended the season. This is what we can be.

500
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 2: And I'll give out the stab one more time. This

501
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 2: Browns team off a straight up win since last year,

502
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 2: zero to six against the spread, losing those games by

503
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 2: almost eleven points per game. So they're not covering by

504
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 2: eleven points per game, I should say, so, they've just

505
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 2: been absolutely terrible. It's exact spot. They're just a team

506
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 2: that does not not to handle winning and that we

507
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,120
Speaker 2: joke all the time, but it really is a young

508
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 2: team at its core, right this Browns team. They nailed

509
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 2: this draft. I mean I went back and look, they

510
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 2: probably coming to this year, they're probably have my highest

511
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 2: grade for what they drafted this past draft class, but

512
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 2: not the quarterback. But I've already talked about Sanders has

513
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 2: been great as like the worst quarterbacks since he's taken

514
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Speaker 2: over as a starter, even worse than Geno Smith somehow,

515
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 2: which shocked me when I looked at the stats. But

516
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 2: you feel like this is a total game where he

517
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 2: just cannot keep up with Joe Brown that offense. So

518
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 2: I'm with Chad, give me the Cincinnati Bengals minus seven

519
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Speaker 2: and a half.

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Speaker 1: The real question, Simon, And I want Matt Mitchell to

521
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 1: note this. I want him to remember this. I want

522
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 1: him to play this when we get to August and

523
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: we're doing our team by team in division breakdowns and

524
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 1: we're doing our quarterback rankings. Are we suckers? Are we

525
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 1: looking at Joe Burrow and his last six games and saying,

526
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Speaker 1: oh my god, the guy was dominant and this offensive

527
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 1: line was good. And are we thinking the value on

528
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Speaker 1: the Bengals is going to be too high to win

529
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Speaker 1: the division because they're going to be playing a relatively

530
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 1: bad schedule, and are we going to all of a

531
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: sudden be going all in in value? Are we going

532
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: to be as the Hoosiers yet, like used to say

533
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: about their friends on their border state, are we going

534
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 1: to be Illinois suckers? And are we going to go

535
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: all in backing Joe Burrow in the Bengals. I want

536
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 1: us to remember this. I want us to be smart

537
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: about this. I don't want us to get crazy, because

538
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 1: something's always going to happen to screw up that bet.

539
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Speaker 2: Well, I'll say this. My one buddy turning me and said,

540
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 2: this is the only division of football that they could

541
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Speaker 2: have all four teams have a different starter come next

542
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 2: year Week one, with all the drama, with so more

543
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 2: what we've heard from Joe Burrow, uncertainty of Aaron Rodgers,

544
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 2: and the unknown obviously of the Browns and what they're

545
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:27,959
Speaker 2: going to do. And I was like, I, you're right,

546
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,719
Speaker 2: I've probably never even thought about That's probably the only

547
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 2: division of my lifetime that's ever been in that unique

548
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 2: spot of having all four new starters come Week one

549
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 2: next year.

550
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Speaker 1: Two years ago, this was the most competitive division in football. Remember,

551
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 1: all teams had season win totals of eight and a

552
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 1: half or higher. Yeah, it's like insane how quickly the

553
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: league changes Dallas a three and a half point favorite

554
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 1: at the New York Giants. We are very public on this.

555
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 1: We both like Dallas. You're explaining the wise guys, like

556
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 1: the way Jackson Dark can move the ball around. Definitely

557
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: on the public side here because we do have reverse

558
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 1: line movement with the public coming in on the Cowboys,

559
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: but the line moving in the direction of the Giants

560
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 1: doesn't have to get into the contest for me. But

561
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: I'm not seeing it with the Giants.

562
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 2: And then I hate these step of ones because it's

563
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 2: like either side, I feel like I'm leaving money on

564
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 2: the table where it's like the line movements scared me

565
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 2: enough where I'm not putting as much in the Dallas

566
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 2: and it's making me rethink where maybe I'm overlooking this

567
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 2: Giants team too much and this is probably a Giant spot.

568
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 2: But I told you in my life is a better

569
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 2: with Dak. I blindly bet him in this exact spot

570
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 2: right when he's playing a bad divisional team below five hundred.

571
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 2: Dak beats the crap buy of these type of teams

572
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 2: in the exact spot. He just seems to win these

573
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 2: games big. You know, maybe once again there's something I'm missing,

574
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 2: Maybe there's a cold front or a storm coming in

575
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 2: on Sunday. I don't think there is. Like I checked

576
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 2: the weather. It looks pretty good. I just don't know

577
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 2: why Dak being outdoors in the cold or the line

578
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 2: moving as much as it has off. I just don't

579
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 2: know what it's moved off. Right, it's moved off professional money.

580
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 2: So you know there's nothing going on injury wise for

581
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 2: either team. Right, was the Cowboys cut Digs or it did?

582
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: Said with the Packers Travon Diggs.

583
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I don't know. It's it's like he doesn't matter.

584
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 2: He wasn't doing anything for the Cowboys anyway. So really

585
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 2: bizarre line movement here, and like like Chad said, we

586
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 2: know it's the public side with Cowboys, but it's it's

587
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 2: Dak and Dallas against a bad team. Like I said,

588
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 2: this is a long term winner. Taking fish with Dak

589
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 2: usually wins these games pretty big. So he's another guy

590
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 2: that you know, it's not his fault. His team's been

591
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 2: as bad as they were this year. He's he's has

592
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 2: great numories. He's performed basically every week he's had a

593
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 2: couple letdown games, so that's usually against really good defenses.

594
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 2: That's so much against the Giants team that yes they

595
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 2: have a pass rush, but that secondary is just terrible,

596
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 2: so terrible, you expect him to throw over the field.

597
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 2: With Ceedee, Lamb and Pickens obviously playing for that new contract.

598
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: Green Bay and Minnesota, we talked about this one has

599
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: moved from five and a half on Sunday night when

600
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Speaker 1: we talked about it, said you got to grab it

601
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 1: to seven. We don't know who the Packers quarterback is

602
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: going to be. We do know that they recently signed

603
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: Desmond Ridder to the practice squad and we expect them

604
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: to rest a lot of starters. So that's why this

605
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: game has moved from five and a half to seven.

606
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 1: The only reason it isn't moving more is because Max

607
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: Brosmer is the quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings as far

608
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: as we know. So like in terms of value, in

609
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: terms of contest, I mentioned it only because of the

610
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: Desmond Ridder news. I don't think there's a play to

611
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: be had here if you are getting this number at seven.

612
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm obviously investing in the Vikings, but if

613
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 2: you don't have a single penny invested in the Vikings.

614
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 2: You have no bet on this game. A couple of

615
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 2: books have popped green Bay seven and a half. I mean,

616
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 2: with all the unknown, that to me is the position

617
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 2: you want to be on at this point. You're getting

618
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 2: now a touchdown and a half where it could be

619
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Speaker 2: Malik Willis, which is that's a big deal. Like if

620
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 2: he is a player now, if it's as a rider, obviously,

621
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 2: I think you're deader than Debt. I can't see him

622
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 2: moving the ball that well, especially after one week of

623
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 2: practice against this Vikings defense. But yeah, it's a weird

624
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 2: game because the numbers moved too much to me, Like

625
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 2: I like the Vikings. You can still get anything under seven.

626
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 2: But like I said, a bunch of bookser popping seven

627
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 2: and a half. I just I cannot give out the

628
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 2: Vikings with a third string quarterback at seven and a

629
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Speaker 2: half without knowing who the green Bay quarterback is. If

630
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 2: it's the third or fourth string guy, Yeah, I have

631
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 2: no problem taking Minnesota if you want a ton of points.

632
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 2: But yeah, this is what's tough about this week. The

633
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 2: lines moved so much just because the pros are hitting

634
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 2: it so early. And yeah, this game I really am

635
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 2: shocked to see you getting up to seven and a half.

636
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 2: Hopefully like you, you know, listen to the show. You

637
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 2: were able to get the five and a half on Minnesota,

638
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 2: even the six and a half we gave it on Tuesday.

639
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 2: But yeah, at this point, the number to me is

640
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 2: we have too much for me to really give out

641
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 2: the Vikings on minus seven LA Chargers.

642
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: We talked about it twelve and a half point underdogs

643
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: at Denver. I'm shocked this one hasn't moved to thirteen.

644
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: I was really hoping it would because I wanted to

645
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: bet it at thirteen. One book actually has it, A

646
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: very public book has it at eleven and a half.

647
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: But like, this is an imminently intriguing matchup to me

648
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: because the Charger's defense is still good, and that's who's

649
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: going to be defending against Bo Nicks. I don't talk

650
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: about unknowable. Why is Trey Lance to me a ten

651
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: point difference from Justin Herbert. I don't know that he

652
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: should be, and so I think he presents a dynamic

653
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: with his legs that's a little bit different than what

654
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: the Broncos have been able to prepare for. So it

655
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: just feels like it's way too high to me.

656
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually went in luck to see what is

657
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 2: the difference just from my model, and honestly, it's right

658
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 2: around that jet. I think, yeah, I had it a

659
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 2: nine point difference. So some of that likes, you know,

660
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 2: shit on Herbert because it's fun because his fans think

661
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 2: he's something that he's not, which is.

662
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: Top five quarterback.

663
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think he's a good quarterback, just not top

664
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 2: five quarterback. But I told you this is all pros,

665
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 2: Like this is just simply a pros versus the book

666
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 2: type of game. And yeah there's hard rock, just move

667
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 2: to twelve while we're doing a live. So clearly there's

668
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 2: still money coming on the charters even late. But I

669
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 2: just want to let people don't be scared off, Like

670
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 2: you look at all the splits, you're gonna see all

671
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 2: the tickets, all the money on the charters team. Like

672
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 2: I said, I think it's simply just professionals. I don't

673
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 2: still know anyone Joe public messing this game. Less they're throwing,

674
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 2: you know, the Broncos in a five and a half

675
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 2: teaser or taking the Broncos money line. That just I

676
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 2: just cannot see the public line up whe there's other

677
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 2: games are gonna want to bet the Broncos have disappointed

678
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,239
Speaker 2: right as a favorite. I've talked about Nick's season two

679
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 2: and nine is a favorite against the spread. He's just

680
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 2: struggled in this spot. And you know, Chad, Chad talked

681
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 2: about a little bit here with Trey Lance. It's it

682
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 2: is a obviously a step down from Herbert, but the

683
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 2: legs I feel like mitigate a lot of it. Well,

684
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 2: you've seen Herbert do so well. Obviously he's going to

685
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 2: passing the ball. Herbert has bailed them out a ton

686
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 2: with his legs, and that's what it's gonna happen a

687
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 2: lot here with Trey Lance. He's going to be on

688
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 2: the run a ton. And shockingly saw the Chargers are

689
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 2: going to play a lot of their starters from their

690
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,239
Speaker 2: offensive line just because those guys need work. Like if

691
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 2: you look at the grades, they're basically thirty second, thirty

692
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 2: first and almost ever Yeah, category blocking wise, and you

693
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 2: know they obviously need to work in the past block

694
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 2: and run blocking. This is the perfect thing to do

695
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 2: it against. The Broncos have one of the best fronts

696
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 2: in all of football. So Trey Lance, he's gonna be

697
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 2: running for his life. But like Chad just said, this

698
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 2: feels like a little bit too much of a movement

699
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 2: with the Herbert news, Like, if it was Herbert in

700
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 2: this game, what is this a three point two and

701
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 2: a half point type of spread? Ten points feels like

702
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 2: a lot. So if you do hear this and you

703
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 2: can'tet a twelve and a half, I would grab because

704
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 2: I do think the pros keep betting this down. And

705
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 2: like Chad said, there's one book already shown eleven and

706
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 2: a half. I think a couple of books will follow

707
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 2: suit as the week goes along.

708
00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: Here, Keenan Allen a lot of incentives in this game.

709
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's going to be playing, but

710
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: if he does, look for those Keenan Allen props, folks,

711
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: because if there's anything that there that's like, it could

712
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 1: be the perfect scenario. Like he's playing. They don't really

713
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 1: have anything to lose, so just sling the ball. Find

714
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: a way to get Keenan Allen his seven hundred and

715
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 1: fifty grand and incentives. If he has six plus receptions,

716
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: take a look, it's more than seven yards. I'll tell

717
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: you that much. Detroit plus three at Chicago Caleb Williams

718
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: is two hundred and seven yards away from being the

719
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: first Chicago Bear ever to get four thousand passing yards

720
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: in a season. Ben Johnson was asked about this in

721
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: his past conference and he said he thought it was

722
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: an arbitrary number. Who cares? Reporters laughed and said, you

723
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: must be new here, because everyone here cares quite a bit.

724
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: I looked at Caleb's two year stats through week seventeen

725
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: in his second year, forty five touchdown passes and only

726
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: twelve picks. So last night, my buddy who was over

727
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,240
Speaker 1: asked me while we were watching the game, the Miami

728
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,240
Speaker 1: Ohio State game, if you were to redraft the twenty

729
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: twenty four quarterback draft, what would you do. I still

730
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: had Caleb number one, and I and I Drake made

731
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: number two.

732
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, we all overreact, right. I think Jane Daniels was

733
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 2: the unanimous number one pick coming to this yes, from

734
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 2: that draft. So yeah, it's just I saw people are saying,

735
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 2: is this the greatest QB draft ever? A draft that

736
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 2: I think Jane Daniel's the only one with the actual

737
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 2: playoff win. So it's just we like the crown them early.

738
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 2: That's what we do here. We'd like the crown them early,

739
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 2: but I'd never wear it. I said from the get go,

740
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 2: Caleb was my number one guy. I mean one of

741
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 2: my favorite shows ever was I think it was we

742
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 2: had on Seth Rollins was trying to talk you and

743
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 2: Seth Rolind is down about getting rid of Justin Fields

744
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 2: and how it's a good thing and Caleb Williams is

745
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 2: a million times better in sets of the Upside, And

746
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 2: it's just funny looking back right now, It's like there's

747
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 2: no question. Right ones are proven winner that can make

748
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 2: the big time throw. The other one is a crazy

749
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 2: athlete that can never find a way to win games.

750
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 2: So years, yeah, Caleb is just you see why he's

751
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 2: you know, the guy was hyped up in high school

752
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 2: Seth wickershamptoas his dad had him getting interview prepped when

753
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 2: he was in high school getting ready for talking to

754
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 2: the media for college in the NFL. Like, this kid

755
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 2: always has been the guy. The question was always going

756
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 2: to be can he be a leader of men? Can

757
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 2: this guy lead mint? Can guys play hard for him

758
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 2: through a whole season? Does he have that type of

759
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 2: personality type? And you've seen it now he is what

760
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 2: we always talk about right. You need a quarterback be

761
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 2: the type of alpha guy. He seems like he is it.

762
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 2: You know, that game last week really was shocking. I

763
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 2: just couldn't believe how great Caleb played in a game

764
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 2: that had just the same amount of press should get

765
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 2: the one seed. So I am not shocked talking about

766
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 2: this game to see the pros coming on this Bears team. Right.

767
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 2: They have been what we've talked about all season. They

768
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 2: play teams close, they always find ways to win late,

769
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 2: and that's just their identity, right. They're just a slug

770
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 2: it out type of team, and they have something the

771
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 2: Lions don't have, which is a run game, Like let's

772
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 2: break it down for real, this Lion's team. They can

773
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 2: now fall back on the run game like they have

774
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 2: in the past. A lot of these games have fallen

775
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 2: onto golf shoulders where this Bears team and they need

776
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 2: to pick up four or five chunks to give you know,

777
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 2: a third and five or second and five. To Caleb,

778
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 2: they've been great to put them in that position. The

779
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 2: Lions have not been the same. I do think that

780
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 2: is why so many pros think that this is the

781
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 2: difference here. The Bears team will always be in a

782
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 2: better position. But I think me and Chi I have

783
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 2: talked a little bit about this Bears team. We love them,

784
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 2: but as a three point favorite, that's where I have

785
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 2: to draw the line. This is a team, like I talk,

786
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 2: they play close games. This Lions team, as bad as

787
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 2: they've looked, there's still the number two, number three offense

788
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 2: in all of football. There's still a team that has

789
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 2: moved the ball. They've just been so let down by

790
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 2: their defense. So really unique spot, right, a really really

791
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 2: unique spot in the sense that a couple of weeks

792
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 2: ago the Lions were probably minus one here on the road,

793
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 2: and the number has moved about four and a half

794
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 2: points five points now because the Bears have been playing

795
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 2: so well down the stretch of the lines, they've fallen

796
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 2: off the cliff. I mean that last loss, I mean

797
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 2: could be more embarrassing. That's why the public, yeah, totally

798
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 2: out on them, right that.

799
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: That's, by the way, why I'm on this game is

800
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 1: how bad that game was that last game. Like, I'm

801
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: fading the Bears brilliant and I'm betting into the Lions

802
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: complete and total failings, which.

803
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 2: Again to me, is scary because this type of year,

804
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 2: I really do think you are who you are, Like

805
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 2: the Lions are exactly who they are if you go

806
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 2: through and you look these last couple of weeks, Now

807
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 2: this is who they are. They've totally faltered here and

808
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 2: fallen apart, and it's really golf. Golf has just been

809
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 2: absolutely terrible with the turnovers, holding on the ball too long,

810
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 2: like it just feel like all of a sudden, he

811
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 2: is zero pocket work and it's like he doesn't know

812
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 2: there's a blitz coming. He's about to get smacked in

813
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 2: three seconds. All of it. Golf has been so bad.

814
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 2: But like you just said, this is the lowest we've

815
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 2: been able to buy this Lions team. And I don't know,

816
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 2: four years with Campbell, like this is just feels like

817
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 2: this is low as a guess since we bet on

818
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 2: them when they were what zero to eight and they

819
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,280
Speaker 2: come out pulled out that one against the Minnesota Vikings.

820
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 2: So it's been a long time with this Lions team.

821
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 2: And yeah, it's really been to me about the numbers.

822
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 2: So we'll rob the books. The books are going to

823
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 2: destway need the Lions come Sunday, and that's a position

824
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 2: I'm happy to be in. So grabbed the three. We'll

825
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 2: see if we get lucky in three and a halfs

826
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 2: a couple of three and a halfs pops. But while

827
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 2: we're doing to show Live hard Rock, just what to

828
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 2: two and a half. So there is some pro money

829
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 2: coming on this Lions team. Now.

830
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: Finally, Arizona the Los Angeles Rams. The Rams are seven

831
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: and a half point favorites. It's ticked up from seven

832
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 1: to to seven and a half since I made it

833
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 1: Chad's choice talk about you are who you are, and

834
00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: maybe I was leaning into a two hard for the Lions,

835
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: but I'm definitely buying into a team that had a

836
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: dreadful first half in prime time and then nearly won

837
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: the game in the second half with the guy who

838
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: probably should be the MVP and Matthew Stafford going against

839
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: a team that really is who we think they are

840
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: in the Arizona Cardinals. It's at seven, it's moved up

841
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: to seven and a half. Still good with it, still

842
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: like it. Still want to put it in the contest

843
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams Fight Fight fight.

844
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Arizona just looks like one of those teams

845
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 2: that all these guys had booked their vacation. They're done,

846
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 2: They're totally cooked, you know. Last week saw some fight.

847
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:49,240
Speaker 2: I think they had this crazy, crazy touchdown where Cincinaty

848
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 2: couldn't tackle. And also it was like a fourteen to

849
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 2: fourteen point game. The final score is thirty seven to fourteen,

850
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 2: Like Cincinnati just totally whooped and opening up on the

851
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 2: rest of the game. And we've gone through it. Every

852
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 2: game they've just gotten blown out. Even Atlanta beat them

853
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 2: by a touchdown. I think they beat him twenty six nineteen.

854
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, they just like they they they they couldn't compete anymore.

855
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: Like the second half of the year. They just stop

856
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: being able to keep the games that were close in

857
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: the first half of the year within contention and they

858
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: just get blown out and they get blown out late.

859
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 2: And the last time they played. Speaking of a reaction,

860
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 2: the ramsay this same exact team, whereas in Arizona's a

861
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 2: minus nine and a half point favorite. So they're yeah,

862
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 2: the numbers moved against them now that they're at home.

863
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 1: Makes no sense exactly.

864
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 2: It just shows how the public and general puck overreacts

865
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 2: to it. So this is gonna be a huge need

866
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,240
Speaker 2: for the book. But every week over it plays against

867
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 2: the Arizona's gonna be in need. Obviously, but I'm with Jet.

868
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 2: It was an exact type of game that they need

869
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 2: to get right in McVeigh. You know it's not gonna

870
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 2: be an easy week of practice, right, It's gonna be

871
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,479
Speaker 2: that really hell a week. They need this. They're gonna

872
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 2: need to show up offensively and touch a little bit

873
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 2: of the staff for in MVP stuff. There's no way

874
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 2: they don't hear that stuff inside the line. There's no

875
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 2: way they don't hear that. Yeah, he's now not the favorite,

876
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 2: and I'm sure he's seen that. I think he has

877
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 2: forty two touchdown passes. Basically, if he throws for three

878
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 2: touchdown passes, he'll have forty five touchdown passes and under

879
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 2: ten interceptions. Only two other quarterbacks in NFL history I've

880
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 2: ever done that, Tom Brady Aaron Rodgers. They both won

881
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 2: the MVP this season. They did that, So there is

882
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 2: a little bit of historical data where certain numbers he

883
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 2: needs to get to. I think they look better to

884
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 2: these beat writers and a lot of these people vote

885
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 2: on MVP, and I'm sure you've seen it. It's it's

886
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 2: already been a heated week. Patriots. Oh my god, it's

887
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 2: so much fun. Dania Laski just getting killed because his

888
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 2: agent reps Matthew Stafford's agent, and it's just they're coming

889
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:40,800
Speaker 2: for you. If you have an opinion on this in

890
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 2: your sports media, they're really coming for you. And uh,

891
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 2: you know, it's we talked a little bit about it.

892
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 2: I think Stafford came on the show. He was over

893
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 2: plus three hundred the MVP. You've seen it come down

894
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 2: a little bit just because when I said, it's like,

895
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,399
Speaker 2: this is opinionated award, there's no it doesn't matter if

896
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 2: Drake made is the big favorite here. It's it's really

897
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 2: based on these opinions and how well Stafford's agent can

898
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 2: sell it to all these people in media. When, like

899
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 2: I said, he's been around thirty seven years old, he's

900
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 2: been around a long time. That's going to ring true

901
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 2: in a lot of these media guys when they go

902
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 2: to vote. So you know, we're all in on this

903
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 2: Rams team. This is another spot where Arizona. We're really

904
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 2: big on Arizona being a team that quit here. That's

905
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 2: really what we're banking on here, because if you just

906
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 2: have a little bit of a letdown, like we've seen

907
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 2: this RAMS team, we can be so motivated. How do

908
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 2: they not put up thirty five forty points. We got

909
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 2: this Arizona defense shed, so I know it's very chalky.

910
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 2: I'm a bet by you on Tuesday, but I'm supporting.

911
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 2: I love this Rams team.

912
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: It's a narrative award. People in the media love a narrative.

913
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: Simon says was the Pittsburgh Steelers plus three and a

914
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:45,720
Speaker 1: half hosting the Baltimore Ravens in the last regular season

915
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: game of the year on Sunday Night Football. We're both

916
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: all in on the Pittsburgh Steelers. We're all in on

917
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,720
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin rah rah, We're all in on the Steelers

918
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: as an underdog. We're all in on Aaron Rodgers. I'm

919
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: mostly in because I think this Ravens defense has proven

920
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: to be a fraud against the pass. As the season

921
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,800
Speaker 1: is going on. They haven't gotten better. They can be

922
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: taken in the middle of the field. They keep getting confused.

923
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 1: I'm tired of seeing Kyle Hamilton and Roquons with trying

924
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 1: to work it out after a big play like they

925
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: just haven't been good. I'm betting against the Ravens. I'm

926
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 1: betting on Aaron Rodgers.

927
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 2: Let's roll, yeah, And it's such a fitting way for

928
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 2: us in the season right on this gross game, taking

929
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,280
Speaker 2: the gross dog in a spot we always back Tomlins.

930
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 2: So you know, it's a really unique game since what

931
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 2: Chad's talking about here, it's a team that you kind

932
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 2: of throw out their records and you just blindly take

933
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 2: the dog. Historically, go down the record one more time,

934
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 2: just because it's my will always be my favorite stat

935
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 2: this series since two thousand and five, thirty twelve and

936
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,760
Speaker 2: three of the dog in this matchup seventy one percent

937
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 2: in the regular season underdogs. So, whether it's Tomlin's underdog

938
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,399
Speaker 2: or Harball's underdog, these two coaches on the matchup where

939
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 2: which every team is the underdog twenty five and seven

940
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 2: against the spread in their history. It's crazy, it really

941
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 2: is when you go back through all the data. Especially

942
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 2: you know when those Ben Roethlisberger years, right, they had

943
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 2: the three bees, they were dominant offensively, they were playing

944
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 2: against a banged up Flaco and a horrible Ravens team.

945
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 2: The Ravens kept winning those games, are covering and then

946
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 2: they flipped. When this Pittsburgh team has now been playing backups,

947
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 2: they've been covering winning. So I don't know about you,

948
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 2: I'm hoping it's Lamar. I know it sounds crazy, but

949
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 2: we talked about Lamar with this injury to his legs,

950
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 2: he's not had his superpower. He's not had his legs,

951
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 2: and that's that's such a weapon of his the miss

952
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 2: where you saw it with Stup Huntley. That felt like

953
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 2: that was a big difference in that Green Bay game,

954
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 2: like they just couldn't contain him, and when he would

955
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:47,879
Speaker 2: break out and he'd use his legs, that was such

956
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 2: a weapon you saw that was lacking of that Ravens offense.

957
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 2: So we'll see today. I think Lamar is participating their walkthrough.

958
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 2: You Hopefully he gets clear today and he should be

959
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 2: the quarterback here and maybe we get a four net

960
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 2: a four or four and a half by kickoff because

961
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 2: Lamar is the quarterback. But I'm grabbing the three and

962
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 2: a halfter just in case the professionals do come and

963
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 2: bet this one down. Now. I could see this one

964
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 2: coming down so unique spot. We love the Steelers here

965
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 2: and we blindly bet it. We will see what the

966
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 2: injury news is with Lamar, but you know, I just

967
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 2: can't see it affecting the line too much. And most

968
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 2: moves a point maybe a half a point he.

969
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,479
Speaker 1: Did practice, he is, They are confident he will play.

970
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 1: That's the latest series.

971
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 2: So there you go, numbers. Maybe it won't, maybe I'm wrong,

972
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,439
Speaker 2: Maybe it won't move because if Chad's give that infa,

973
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 2: that means that the books have known that for a

974
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 2: little bit. They have not budged. So that's that's really interesting.

975
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 2: So yet it's held at three and a half.

976
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,799
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1020
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 1: what are your biggest bets?

1021
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 2: Pull up fose pants and be a man before I

1022
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 2: do it. A couple asked about futures. I'll do it

1023
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 2: super quick, just from before the season, asking what I

1024
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 2: have left from our show that got lost in the shuffle.

1025
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 2: I basically need a miracle. I need the bills to

1026
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:24,959
Speaker 2: somehow for Super Bowl. Futures this says I need a miracle.

1027
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 2: I need the Bills some how to make the Super Bowl,

1028
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 2: to beat the forty nine ers at plus sixty five

1029
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 2: to one, So that's the one I've left. Obviously, I

1030
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 2: gave out the Eagles to over the Chiefs. That one's

1031
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 2: deader than dead, forty nine ers to be the ones

1032
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 2: in the NFC plus seven hundred still alive. I couldn't

1033
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 2: believe it. I gave out worst record Arizona Cardinals seventy

1034
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 2: five to one. I have a couple of tickets on

1035
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 2: that one game away. There are three I think three

1036
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 2: and thirteen are three and fourteen. Obviously, the Raiders have

1037
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 2: two losses, so that one was really close to coming

1038
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:59,280
Speaker 2: out and still alive. Most receiving yards Jackson Smith ADJIGBA

1039
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 2: five to one. He is leading by I think seventy yards.

1040
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 2: So yeah, not not the best year for the future.

1041
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 2: That's why we give out crazy long shots. You're always

1042
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 2: crazy stuff for this week biggest bets. Like I said,

1043
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 2: it's a little a little weird because it is the

1044
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 2: week before the playoffs and there's so much college football

1045
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 2: going on. Biggest vision I took obviously early in the week,

1046
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 2: I took a large special on the Minnesota Vikings. Took

1047
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 2: a large position just because I thought that Green Bay

1048
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 2: wouldn't be playing their starters. I number has moved to

1049
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 2: luckily accordingly, I took a pretty big position on this,

1050
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 2: this forty nine Ers team at plus one and a half.

1051
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 2: I'm a little worried about it because, like I said,

1052
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 2: it is the pros are so heavily on the other side.

1053
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 2: So you know, if you want to join me in

1054
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 2: my prime my bigger bet for Saturday, I'll take Carolina

1055
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 2: up to seven and a half. I'll take the forty

1056
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 2: nine Ers up to seven and a half. It's probably

1057
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 2: minus one twenty, maybe minus one ten, just because Carolina's

1058
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,399
Speaker 2: now is up back up the plus three. The juice

1059
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 2: is in two bead, but I like both of them

1060
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 2: to cover at least being a touchdown underdog. I just

1061
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 2: can't see the forty Niners game blun or Carolina again

1062
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 2: blend on these type of games. Just you see timetime again, right,

1063
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 2: Teams fighting for a divisional divisional games that this sides

1064
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 2: playoff positioning tend to be very close games. So I

1065
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 2: do like that. I wouldn't tease it because teasers now

1066
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 2: are rip off. I think if you tease this, it's

1067
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 2: like minus one forty. You don't need the Panthers mine

1068
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 2: or plus nine and a half. Just stake the number

1069
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 2: up to just as seven and a half. That's me

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00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 2: and one of my bigger bets. And people know Chad's

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00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 2: already talking a little bit about it. Cincinnati, love that side,

1072
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,240
Speaker 2: Love the Rams. I'm just putting their money lines together,

1073
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 2: taking a pretty big bet on both those sides, just

1074
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 2: to win straight up. But yeah, like I said, very

1075
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,879
Speaker 2: very wonky week, it's just be careful because it's really

1076
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 2: the pros heading these lines. The public usually set this

1077
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 2: week out just because it is such a wild week.

1078
00:51:55,080 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 1: Speaking of money lines, money line underdog parlay. My dog

1079
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 1: blocks your dog, Your dog blocks mot Dog. I've got Pittsburgh, Carolina,

1080
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 1: San Francisco, New Orleans love it, money line favorite. You

1081
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: just mentioned two of them. I had Cincinnati and the Rams.

1082
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: I have Denver minus five and a half. I got Minnesota.

1083
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 2: I don't know it. Like again, it's it's a weird

1084
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 2: week where like Dallas, I like, I like Philly. I

1085
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 2: know Philly's playing their backups, but Tany McKee just looks

1086
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 2: like an absolute stud, Like I think this coulduld be

1087
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 2: a starter. And this is the exact type of game

1088
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 2: where you know he knows he's playing for that right,

1089
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 2: he's playing for that Matt Flynn type of deal. He

1090
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 2: wants that Matt Flynn money. So yeah, I like the Eagles.

1091
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 2: Now the numbers move so much. I said, if you

1092
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:56,959
Speaker 2: could got if you got a guy watching it, plus seven,

1093
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 2: that that was a really nice number. But now that

1094
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 2: it's under seven, shout the Egos money line. I think

1095
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 2: that's good value there. So yeah, there's a bunch of

1096
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 2: ways you can mismash. If you don't love the Devers,

1097
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 2: then we're line that Chad gave out. I don't hate

1098
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 2: throwing Dallas's money line in their the Egos money line,

1099
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,399
Speaker 2: but yet Rams money line. Since these money line like these,

1100
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 2: we've seen time with taking them these big favorites in

1101
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 2: the week eighteen, these teams do tend to show up

1102
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 2: with these other teams. They're already ready for that vacation.

1103
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:24,760
Speaker 2: They're just they're just there to get that paycheck.

1104
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: Sure versus Square, Who do you got? Uh?

1105
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:34,879
Speaker 2: I guess I got it, Doe, because I've just hyped

1106
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 2: it up so much of this point. Give me give

1107
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 2: me the forty nine ers plus one plus one and

1108
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 2: a half.

1109
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: I am taking the Cincinnati Bengals. I'll take the seven

1110
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 1: and a half.

1111
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 2: You are Rams seven and a half and then Bengals

1112
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 2: seven and a half.

1113
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 1: I know I thought about that. One of them is

1114
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 1: gonna lose obviously.

1115
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 2: Now I don't know. I'm win you. I' drinking the koolid.

1116
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 2: I like them both, all.

1117
00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:01,320
Speaker 1: Right, listen, Happy New Year to everybody. We're all Hoosiers today,

1118
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 1: go Indiana Hoosiers. Fight, Fight Fight. This has been Sharper Square,

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Speaker 1: part of the Volume podcast network. We will be back

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Speaker 1: on Sharper Square YouTube on Sunday morning. You'll get the

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00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 1: East drop on an intimate conversation where we make decisions

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00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 1: we will regret. Watch or listen on Sharper Square on YouTube.

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00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 1: You can also download us some Spotify Apple Pods wherever

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00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,200
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1125
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: stars say whatever you want. Feedback is the gift until Sunday.

1126
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 1: I love you.

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00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 2: This ain't Ray Nitchkei and Dick Buck some Deacon Jones

1128
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 2: over there, So let's start kicking some hats. This team

1129
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:42,839
Speaker 2: is not better enough than not even good