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Speaker 2: Ah, the culmination of the madness. It's nearly upon us.

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Speaker 2: We got the Final Four ahead, we had some fun,

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Speaker 2: some sparks fly in the women's tournament yesterday, and we're

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Speaker 2: with you. He's Jason fitz I'm Buck Rising, hanging out

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Speaker 2: here with you on this Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 3: We've got Ian and Mary back in.

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Speaker 2: The studio in Los Angeles making it all go. The

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Speaker 2: road ends in Indie, state of my youth, state of

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Speaker 2: my birth, Fitzie, and we will see whether or not

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Speaker 2: the Final Four has more intrigued than the actual National

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Speaker 2: Championship itself, because much like the NFL season towards the

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Speaker 2: end in the NFC Championship game where we both looked

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Speaker 2: at that ram Seahawks matchup and said, oh, this might

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Speaker 2: be a better game than the actual Super Bowl. This

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Speaker 2: Arizona Michigan game tonight, this feels like it has the

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Speaker 2: same vibes.

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Speaker 3: How we feeling. Where are you in the world.

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Speaker 2: You're doing ifl You're bopping around and I'm just happy

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Speaker 2: to see that you're on the show today for once

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Speaker 2: to do your job.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 5: Wow, Wow, that is you know where I am. I'm

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Speaker 5: twenty minutes from Indy. But you know what I didn't do.

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Speaker 5: I didn't take tickets. I didn't take tickets.

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Speaker 6: I got offered tickets to a game, and I was like, no,

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Speaker 6: I've missed enough.

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Speaker 5: I've missed enough bucking fits. I'm not going to miss

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Speaker 5: it to go watch yukon Illinois. So no, like I

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Speaker 5: am here, I am in Fishers, Indiana where tomorrow night

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Speaker 5: I'll be the sideline reporter for the Fishers Freight game

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Speaker 5: in the Indoor Football League. Brent Stover going to be

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Speaker 5: on the call. Brent Company, He's doing all the CBS

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Speaker 5: stuff coming straight over. Look, we're stacked. It's going to

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Speaker 5: be a sold out game, big crowd in India. Apparently

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Speaker 5: there's some basketball going on here too. Who knew, but

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Speaker 5: you're right. This matchup, this Arizona Michigan matchup. I keep saying,

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Speaker 5: Book is the ultimate flip of the coin. Like to me,

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Speaker 5: it's the ultimate Spider Man name. It's two teams that

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Speaker 5: have so much size and length and so much ability

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Speaker 5: to get to perimeter to defense, so much ability ability

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Speaker 6: I genuinely have no idea. I am no less, no

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Speaker 6: more confident.

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Speaker 5: I should say today two hours before that game tips off,

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Speaker 5: then I was Monday trying to figure.

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Speaker 6: Out who's going to win that one?

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Speaker 5: Like it just that game feels like it is going

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Speaker 2: And of course you have Yukon and Illinois. Yukon getting

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Speaker 2: to the final four in improbable fashion and now they

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Speaker 2: get the opportunity to.

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Speaker 3: Face a quality Illinois team.

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Speaker 2: Where as far as the coaching goes, I don't know

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Speaker 2: who necessarily is at the greater advantage because where Danny

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Speaker 2: Hurley is experienced and understands how to manage his roster

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Speaker 2: in these critical moments, Brad Underwood and Illinois, man, they

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Speaker 2: are a legit threat to win this thing. You could

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Speaker 2: say any of these four teams remaining in the field

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Speaker 2: I'd say Yukon has a weaker case than any of

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Yukon's the worst of the four remaining teams with

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Speaker 5: the best coach, right, I mean that's the crazy part.

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Speaker 5: The best coach as long as he doesn't get himself

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Speaker 5: in trouble, Like two things can be true here.

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Speaker 6: I'm glad they.

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Speaker 5: Didn't call a tech, but it also could have been

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Speaker 5: now famously whatever had leaned into the official let me

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Speaker 5: tell you something, Brothers roller in full hall Cogan. When

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Speaker 5: I booked my plane tickets weeks ago to get to

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Speaker 5: Freight game tomorrow night, I never would have imagined that

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Speaker 5: I'd be going into one of the most chaotic airplane sequences.

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Speaker 5: You can imagine every single seat filled with you, like

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Speaker 5: interesting to me because I wondered if proximity would be

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Speaker 5: there easily. But the airlines had to add flights over

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Speaker 6: Like these crowds are going to be raging.

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Speaker 5: Hurley's a cheat code, but Connecticut's not as good as Illinois.

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Speaker 5: Illinois should win this game unless really can cheat code

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Speaker 2: Show of Hands back in the La studio. Of course,

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Speaker 2: Martin Weiss is they're doing updates as well. They'll be

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Speaker 2: on after us to continue to get you through this

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Speaker 2: evening of college hoops.

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Speaker 3: Show of Hands.

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Speaker 2: Do we actually think that Jason Fitz was offered tickets

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Speaker 2: to the Final four and decline them for the sake

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Speaker 3: Anybody else in the room believe him?

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Speaker 7: Everyone has their hands down, by.

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Speaker 6: The way, correct, Yeah, I will hands screenshot.

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Speaker 5: I will scree shot the text to our agent a

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Speaker 5: few days ago that said, Hey, I got offered tickets.

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Speaker 6: What should I do?

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Speaker 7: You don't got to come with those, brother.

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Speaker 6: I'm telling you Buck. Buck's not a believer. Buck is

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Speaker 6: not a believer. You know what.

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Speaker 5: A couple of things you know about me? Number one,

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Speaker 5: I'm a pleaser. I don't want to let people down.

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Speaker 5: I'm missing some.

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Speaker 6: Time for these IFL games. I'm not well, so I'm also,

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Speaker 6: you know, an entrepreneur said that lightly. So I like

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Speaker 6: making money. You know, I like making money, so I'm

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Speaker 6: always going to work over not work on that.

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Speaker 2: Well, that you're a greed supersedes all of this. That's

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Speaker 2: the most convincing argument that you've made so far. He's

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Speaker 2: Jason Fitz on Buck Rising, hanging out with you on

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Speaker 2: this Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 3: So how are we feeling about the direction that these

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Speaker 2: Because as I see it, FITZI Michigan, who's just clubbed

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Speaker 2: Arizona turning it on basically in the second half against Purdue,

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Speaker 3: This game is going to go.

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Speaker 2: And yet I feel even though I picked Michigan to

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Speaker 3: Martin may last.

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Speaker 2: When last we got together a week ago, Martin was

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Speaker 3: Perhaps we'll get an update when we get to the update.

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Speaker 2: Later in the show, but the more that I feel,

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Speaker 6: I haven't looked at our bracket challenge.

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Speaker 5: I know that I got three of the four right

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Speaker 5: pretty good about it. I had Arizona win it at

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Speaker 5: think the most important part on that game, Buck is

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Speaker 5: the first five minutes in the officiating Number one. We

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Speaker 5: If the refs are trying to control the pace of

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Speaker 6: How they run that bench like.

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Speaker 5: I think the officials are actually the most interesting part

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Speaker 6: So that's the biggest variable to me.

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Speaker 5: But again, I think, to me, the Michigan Arizona game

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Speaker 5: has that chance to just be ugly, physical, nineties feeling

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Speaker 5: the length that the guys have. For anyone that hasn't

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Speaker 5: I say that they're physical, They're not physical like Jani

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Speaker 6: They're physical like they're.

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Speaker 5: Long and so they dis rupped so many shots and

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Speaker 2: To me, Yeah, Arizona had sixty points in the paint

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Speaker 2: against Purdue to advance to this final. For the Wildcats,

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Speaker 2: two teams want to play. You understand that Arizona right now,

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Speaker 2: My football team is a national champion, which is delightful,

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Speaker 2: because they did not make all manner of efforts to

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Speaker 2: And this man not only did he get FAU to

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Speaker 2: to me, FITZI have looked like the best team in

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Speaker 2: the tournament start to finish the whole way through. I

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Speaker 2: am so impressed with the job that he has done,

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Speaker 2: to get that roster to play for him and galvan

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Speaker 2: I to play for each other as well.

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Speaker 3: It's clear in the way that they go about this.

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Speaker 2: And like we talked about the game at that they

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Speaker 2: and Michigan was just overwhelming, just absolutely inevitable that Saint

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Speaker 5: Like Lebron's been honest about, you know, disconnecting and not

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Speaker 6: If I'm Lebron, I'm coming right back to the Lakers.

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Speaker 2: Uh, We're going to continue to talk hoops with Alicia Clark,

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Speaker 10: Got the first of the two final four games today,

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Speaker 10: Yukon and Illinois, the two seed Huskies doubling up the

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Speaker 10: The Denver Nuggets beat the San Antonio Spurs won thirty

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Speaker 10: six to one, thirty four. Denver now with their eighth

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Speaker 10: straight win. Nikole Jokic had a great day today. He

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Speaker 10: had what fifty forty points, eight rebounds, thirteen assists, Victor

445
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Speaker 10: web Minyama tried to put it up, but thirty four

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Speaker 10: points for him eighteen rebounds.

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Speaker 3: That guy puts up video game numbers pretty much every

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Speaker 3: time he hits the court.

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Speaker 10: The Heat beat the Wizards one fifty two to one

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Speaker 10: thirty six Kyo ware with twenty four points, nineteen rebounds,

451
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Speaker 10: and seven blocks. In Major League Baseball, the Orioles lead

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Speaker 10: the Pirates two to one in the bottom of the

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Speaker 10: seventh inning. Bottom of the eighth, the Dodgers with a

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Speaker 10: ten to two lead over the Nationals, bottom of the seventh,

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Speaker 10: Astros with a ten to nothing lead over the A's,

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Speaker 10: and the Padres lead the Red Sox shooting and I

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Speaker 10: think going toward the bottom of the eighth. Earlier we

458
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Speaker 10: saw the Tigers beat the Cardinals. That game called in

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Speaker 10: the top of the ninth inning, but it was an

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Speaker 10: eleven to six win for Detroit. Troit also adding Justin

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Speaker 10: Berlander to the injured list today. He's the oldest player

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Speaker 10: in Major League Baseball at forty three years old. He's

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Speaker 10: got a hip injury. On the fifteen day il the

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Speaker 10: Brewers and the Royals, Milwaukee with a five to two

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Speaker 10: win over Kansas City in the first game of a

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Speaker 10: double header, and the White Sox lead the Blue Jays

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Speaker 10: six I'm sorry, beat the Blue Jays six to three.

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Speaker 10: Alejandro Kirk on the injured list as well, he's got

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Speaker 10: a hurt thumb. Guardians, Guardians and Cubs postponed to tomorrow.

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Speaker 10: That'll be a straight doubleheader on the Lakers side of things.

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Speaker 10: Luka Danciz is out. Austin Reeves just and now he's

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Speaker 10: going to be out for the rest of the year

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Speaker 10: as well instead of the regular season, I should say,

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Speaker 10: with a back injury. Right now, Yukon eighteen, Illinois twelve,

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Speaker 10: just under twelve minutes left in the first half of

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Speaker 10: the first game of the Final Four.

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Speaker 3: Fellas back to you, Thank you Martin.

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Speaker 2: He's Jason Fitz I'm Buck Rising, hanging out here with

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Speaker 2: you on a Fox Sports Saturday. FITZI, as Martin mentioned,

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Speaker 2: the Final Four going on right now, Yukon with the

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Speaker 2: early lead in the first half of this contest. As you,

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Speaker 2: as you look at Danny Hurley and what he has

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Speaker 2: already accomplished in his career at that program, specifically, how

484
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Speaker 2: much it means to that program specifically, how much what

485
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Speaker 2: would Danny Hurley be in the scale or scope of

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Speaker 2: college basketball coaches.

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Speaker 3: If he were to win another title this year.

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Speaker 5: I think if he wins another title and that gives

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Speaker 5: him three and four, then we need to start having

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Speaker 5: Mount rushmore like conversations. Honestly, I mean, Hurley is at

491
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Speaker 5: this point the face of college basketball. He's the villain

492
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Speaker 5: of college basketball, and to some he's the hero all

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Speaker 5: wrapped up and won.

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Speaker 6: There's a brand relevance to him that's absolutely incredible.

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Speaker 5: But I'll also remind people like Yukon is actually the

496
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Speaker 5: program we talk about Duke like they are, Like Yukon

497
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Speaker 5: has more national championships over multiple generations now with multiple

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Speaker 5: head coaches.

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Speaker 6: It's just they're a factory. So for Hurley to come in.

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Speaker 5: And be able to do what he does, how he

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Speaker 5: does it, and really to be able to get the

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Speaker 5: entire state of Connecticut to decide. Remember, Connecticut is the

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Speaker 5: only school that in the country that decided they would

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Speaker 5: invest more money in basketball than football.

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Speaker 6: I think a lot of schools should.

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Speaker 5: Turn around and that Yukon men's Yukon football team has

507
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Speaker 5: made a Bowl game two years in a row doesn't matter.

508
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Speaker 5: Like Curly has convinced the entire state of Connecticut that

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Speaker 5: the one thing that has to matter is that brand

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Speaker 5: and that team.

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Speaker 6: I think not only are we.

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Speaker 5: Looking at the best modern coach, but we're looking one

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Speaker 5: of the best coaches of all time. And the longer

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Speaker 5: he says Yukon, the more he wins championship to be

515
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Speaker 5: Illinois the team.

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Speaker 6: And right now Yukon has the drug of belief in

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Speaker 6: this game.

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Speaker 2: Well, and that is a strategy though from an athletic

519
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Speaker 2: department fits. I mean, how many programs anywhere else in

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Speaker 2: the country could justify putting that amount of resources into

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Speaker 2: their basketball team over their football program. We can get

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Speaker 2: into that a little later on, but I believe we

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Speaker 2: have Alicia Clark with us now on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: Alicia, thank you so much for taking some time.

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Speaker 11: Of course, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: We are so excited for.

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Speaker 2: You guys and for the league with the announcement of

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Speaker 2: the new collective bargaining agreement. Just to just to get

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Speaker 2: your thoughts here initially, and I know you've spoken in

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Speaker 2: a number of different outlets about the consequences and the

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Speaker 2: significance of this particular deal, But how big of a

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Speaker 2: win is this for the players?

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Speaker 4: Man? First of all, thank you, It's it's a huge win.

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Speaker 4: You know, we not only just did something transformational for

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Speaker 4: the WNBA, but I think just for women's sports in general,

536
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Speaker 4: the way that we are valued, the way that negotiations go,

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Speaker 4: and just kind of standing.

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Speaker 11: Up for you know, fighting for what you deserve. And

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Speaker 11: so I'm just extremely proud of.

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Speaker 4: Our executive committee, our PA staff for just I mean honestly,

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Speaker 4: like not even just those eight days in New York,

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Speaker 4: but these last seventeen months that we were preparing for

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Speaker 4: those eight days, and yeah, I'm just super excited, not

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Speaker 4: only just for the players now, like it's there's going

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Speaker 4: to be immediate effects. I mean when you look at

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Speaker 4: the minimum salaries last year from sixty six thousand dollars

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Speaker 4: now to two hundred and I think like seventy thousand dollars,

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Speaker 4: Like that's that's significant and that's life changing for a

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Speaker 4: lot of players. And then not to mention for the

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Speaker 4: players coming up once they come out of college, coming

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Speaker 4: into the league and being treated and compensated as a professional.

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Speaker 11: And that's just I'll forever be proud.

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Speaker 6: That I got to be a part of this.

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Speaker 5: Alisha, I'm a collective bargaining nerd admittedly, and one thing

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Speaker 5: I always go back to is it's really hard to

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Speaker 5: get a unified front when everybody's at a different spot

557
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Speaker 5: in their career and has different wants and needs, right like,

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Speaker 5: and you're dealing with the future of the game all

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Speaker 5: these like how did you guys manage to stay together

560
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Speaker 5: when everybody's needs are so different and you're trying to

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Speaker 5: protect yourselves and the future.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think one is the representation of

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Speaker 4: the executive committee. You know, we had everyone from you know,

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Speaker 4: the one percenters we like to say, like the superstars,

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Speaker 4: those players that are going to be in those max

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Speaker 4: salary categories, and then you had a good representation of

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Speaker 4: like the middle group and what I like to call

568
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Speaker 4: the heartbeat of the league, those of us that you know,

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Speaker 4: are complimentary players to those superstars, that unsung heroes that

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Speaker 4: are often forgotten about when it comes to these types

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Speaker 4: of negotiations.

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Speaker 11: And so, you know, and within that you have players

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Speaker 11: like me who I was cut twice. I've been on

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Speaker 11: the bench where I wasn't playing.

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Speaker 4: I've worked my way into a starting role and then

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Speaker 4: just becoming significant, you know, pieces for the championship teams

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Speaker 4: that I.

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Speaker 1: Was a part of.

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Speaker 4: And so I think when you have that collective experience

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Speaker 4: with everyone, I think it really gave us a leg

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Speaker 4: up these negotiations because we thought about everything. You know,

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Speaker 4: when we were talking about increasing the max salary, it's like, okay,

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Speaker 4: well what does the minimum salary look like? And oftentimes

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Speaker 4: that's at least in the last go around, it was

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Speaker 4: forgotten about.

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Speaker 11: It was like, oh, well that's okay. And then you know,

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Speaker 11: to the point of what.

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Speaker 4: You're talking about just different stages, is it's like, what

589
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Speaker 4: about us veterans. You know, in any other career field, you're.

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Speaker 11: Not getting punished for having experience. And what we saw happened.

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Speaker 4: Last time in our CBA negotiations was the vets were getting.

592
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Speaker 11: Fate priced out. It was like, oh, we have to

593
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Speaker 11: pay that for you, Well, we'll go get a cheap rookie.

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Speaker 4: And so we wanted to make sure that everyone was

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Speaker 4: thought of and everyone saw themselves in this negotiation. So

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Speaker 4: I think just starting with who was on the executive committee,

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Speaker 4: you make it sound.

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Speaker 2: So simple, just in the way that you were able

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Speaker 2: to summarize at Alisha, but I know that it's never

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Speaker 2: quite like that.

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Speaker 3: She's Alisa Clark.

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Speaker 2: By the way, WNBPA vice president here with us on

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. We're talking about the new collective bargain

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Speaker 2: agreement for the w We'll talk some more hoops with

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Speaker 2: Alisha here in just a second. But I can't even imagine.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure at some point you lose count just about

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Speaker 2: how many hours did you spend in meeting rooms or

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Speaker 2: at a table across from people negotiating the fine points

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Speaker 2: of this deal?

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Speaker 4: Oh man, Honestly, if it wasn't, if it wasn't for

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Speaker 4: the four reporters that were there. The journalists that were

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Speaker 4: there said they called themselves the Langham Four.

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Speaker 11: Shout out to them because they kept a tally.

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Speaker 4: And you know, had they not kept that tally of

615
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Speaker 4: one hundred plus hours, we would have never known. But

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Speaker 4: it was definitely, I mean, over one hundred hours in

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Speaker 4: those eight days, and it seemed like forever.

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Speaker 5: And it's funny because, let me tell you, I talked

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Speaker 5: to some of those reporters afterwards. They were excited to

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Speaker 5: finally get somewhere in shower. I'm just saying, y'all, like

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Speaker 5: they were living outside that door. The weirdest part about negotiations,

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 6: No, it's crazy. It's crazy.

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Speaker 5: But the weirdest part about negotiations is that you're face

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Speaker 5: to face with somebody that's disputing your value. And I

626
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Speaker 5: don't think enough people think about that. Like imagine sitting

627
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Speaker 5: down with your boss, your CEO of a company and

628
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Speaker 5: being like, well, I think I'm worth this, and they don't.

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Speaker 5: How do you guys sort of go back to work

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Speaker 5: in a normal relationship when things at times were contentious

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Speaker 5: with some of the owners, or even with Kathy Engelberton,

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Speaker 5: just in the entire process.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think, first of all, like when

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Speaker 4: you're sitting across from them, understanding that there are employers.

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Speaker 11: You know, for them, it's everything is the bottom line.

636
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Speaker 11: They see numbers, that's how they operate.

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Speaker 4: Everything is a business from like a business standpoint, and

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Speaker 4: so as players.

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Speaker 11: We understand that, and you know, we knew it wasn't

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Speaker 11: I'm not going to.

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Speaker 4: Say not personal, because I think at some point it

642
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Speaker 4: becomes personal when you're sitting across telling us what we

643
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Speaker 4: aren't worth. But you know, for us, it's it's keeping

644
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Speaker 4: the main thing, the main thing, and it's understanding that

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Speaker 4: without us as players, there is no league, there is

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Speaker 4: no WNBA.

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Speaker 11: And so just constantly being in that position to remind.

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Speaker 4: Them, like, this business that you guys get to, you know,

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Speaker 4: run the bottom line for and bring in money from

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Speaker 4: it doesn't exist without us. And so I think, you know,

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Speaker 4: just kind of when we're going and sitting across from them,

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Speaker 4: having these conversations, just reminding them of that, and to

653
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Speaker 4: be honest, like, when we're not in front of them,

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Speaker 4: we understand it's a business too.

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Speaker 11: As much as we love our jobs and what we're

656
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Speaker 11: able to do, we know, at the drop of a dime,

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Speaker 11: these these teams, these.

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Speaker 4: Owners are going to do whatever's best for their business's

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Speaker 4: bottom line, and so I think just constantly having that

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Speaker 4: at the forefront of your mind as a professional athlete kind.

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Speaker 11: Of helps with that.

662
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Speaker 4: You're able to compartmentalize and you know.

663
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Speaker 11: It's just business as usual.

664
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Speaker 6: We show up and at least this.

665
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Speaker 11: Time we're going to get a piece of, you know,

666
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Speaker 11: the revenue that we're helping drive. And so that's something

667
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Speaker 11: I think can kind of.

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Speaker 4: Just help keep the focus on what matters, and that's

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Speaker 4: us being the best, you know, versions of ourselves on

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Speaker 4: that floor and putting out the best product night in

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Speaker 4: a night out, and having pride.

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Speaker 2: In that WNBPA Vice president Alisha Clark here with us

673
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Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. Also a former MTSU Blue Raider,

674
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Speaker 2: which gives you pride here out Nashville, Tennessee doing the show.

675
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Speaker 2: That's Fitzie and I know each other from working together

676
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Speaker 2: in Nashville. I'm still in Nashville for ten years now, Alisia,

677
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Speaker 2: and I know that it's been It's been cool for

678
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 2: you to be able to you know, work from here

679
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 2: and and have at the AU Pro Basketball also be

680
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 2: a big part of what the city is doing on

681
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Speaker 2: the on the women's sports front. If you could, if

682
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 2: you could share your thoughts on those first couple of

683
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Speaker 2: seasons that you guys have had here in Nashville, and

684
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Speaker 2: your thoughts about what it's done for just another outlet

685
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Speaker 2: for for women to get out there and compete.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, no, I I love having AU here in Nashville.

687
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Speaker 4: You know, I think I just took immense pride in

688
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Speaker 4: being able to show, you know, showcase to my peers.

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Speaker 11: This is the support that women's basketball here has here

690
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Speaker 11: in the.

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Speaker 4: State of Tennessee, especially Middle Tennessee. You know, I was

692
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Speaker 4: fortunate to be able to experience that from high school

693
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Speaker 4: all the way through and you know, having all the

694
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Speaker 4: all these players come you know here to Nashville and

695
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 4: experience that was so much fun. And you know, to

696
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Speaker 4: be able to play at home again since college, which

697
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 4: was you know, nine hundred million years ago, you know,

698
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Speaker 4: being able to be back in front of you know,

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Speaker 4: people either old teammates from high school, my college and

700
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Speaker 4: high school coaches, you know, fans that came to the

701
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Speaker 4: game that saw me way back when, was just so

702
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 4: so special to me. And not only that, but like

703
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 4: Nashville blew all of the numbers for aus previous seasons

704
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Speaker 4: out of the water.

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Speaker 11: I mean, this is such a great location. It's right

706
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Speaker 11: here in the southeast, and there's so many states that

707
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Speaker 11: so many people.

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Speaker 4: Even just were like, yeah, we drove in from Indiana,

709
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Speaker 4: we drove up from Atlanta, we drove in from South Carolina,

710
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Speaker 4: like just all around, and.

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Speaker 11: I just to me, I'm like, this was I think

712
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Speaker 11: the coolest thing.

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Speaker 4: And just not only do I get to play in

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Speaker 4: front of family and friends as a professional, but I

715
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Speaker 4: get to continue to help grow the game and hopefully,

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Speaker 4: you know, be a part of laying the foundation for

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Speaker 4: an expansion franchise in the future.

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Speaker 11: Here for the WNBA because we deserve it.

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Speaker 4: Nashville deserves it the way they've supported women's sports and

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Speaker 4: women's basketball over the years, and just the rich in

721
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Speaker 4: basketball history in this state. I think deserves to be

722
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Speaker 4: celebrated with a team. So yeah, just having an opportunity

723
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Speaker 4: to stay domestic and you know, get to go see

724
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Speaker 4: my niece run track and go to my nephew's basketball

725
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Speaker 4: games on the weekend, and you know, I just have

726
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Speaker 4: a routine with family that I've missed for the last

727
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Speaker 4: over a decade because I've had to play overseas.

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Speaker 11: It just it's really awesome.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, and we can spend we would immediately hang

730
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Speaker 2: on one second, fits I don't mean to cut you

731
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Speaker 2: off there, but we would immediately have the best name

732
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Speaker 2: in the w NBA right the Tennessee Summit's that's kick ass?

733
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Speaker 3: Are you kidding me?

734
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Speaker 9: It really is.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you're at LSIA.

736
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Speaker 5: You're talking to two very fraid to people that the

737
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Speaker 5: w didn't put a franchise in Nashville.

738
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Speaker 6: Plut I have to ask you because.

739
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Speaker 5: I want to get the opportunity to get your thoughts

740
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Speaker 5: on the biggest story right now happening in women's college basketball.

741
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Speaker 6: We watched it last night, you know, sort of lost

742
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 6: his mind at dawn.

743
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Speaker 5: Staley afterwards issued an apology to South Carolina, but didn't

744
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 5: specifically mention Don name as somebody that knows that sport

745
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 5: so well, what did you make of just the way

746
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Speaker 5: all of that went down?

747
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Speaker 11: Oh man?

748
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Speaker 4: To be honest, when I was watching the game, once

749
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Speaker 4: I know South Carolina climates.

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Speaker 11: Closed out, I went back and was, you know, out

751
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Speaker 11: back with my nieces.

752
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 4: I'm playing outside and come back in and I see

753
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 4: everybody in an uproar about what happened, and.

754
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Speaker 6: I was like, wait, what did I miss?

755
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Speaker 4: And going back and watching that video, it's just it's disappointing,

756
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,720
Speaker 4: you know, just from an all around standpoint.

757
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Speaker 11: In terms of like, you know, when people want to

758
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 11: harp on.

759
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 4: Sportsmanship, and for me, I'm just like Don Don is

760
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 4: the epitome of class and integrity, and you know, when

761
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Speaker 4: they got smacked.

762
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Speaker 11: Last year, she took it on the tin and you know,

763
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Speaker 11: as you're supposed to do. And so to see that

764
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Speaker 11: happen was just disheartening because.

765
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Speaker 4: It took away from what actually mattered, and it was

766
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Speaker 4: the masterclass that South Carolina put on last night and

767
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 4: stopping you know, Yukon and they've been so dominant l season,

768
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Speaker 4: and so I think it was really an unfortunate situation

769
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Speaker 4: to take away from, you know, just something really special

770
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 4: that happened, and you hate to see that. And you know,

771
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 4: the apology issue today, I saw that too.

772
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Speaker 11: But for me, I'm just like you. I don't know,

773
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Speaker 11: I feel like.

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Speaker 4: It should have been as much as that disrespect happened

775
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 4: last night, Like the apology should have been just as loud,

776
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Speaker 4: and you know, hopefully it was a personal reach out

777
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 4: before you know, that statement was issued. But you hate

778
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 4: to see that kind of thing take away from what matters,

779
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 4: and it's the athletes and their performance out there. So hopefully,

780
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Speaker 4: you know, it gets put behind and you know this,

781
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 4: two teams in the UCLA and South Carolina can be

782
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Speaker 4: celebrated for what they're doing on the court and not something.

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Speaker 3: Else, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: I'm very well said by Alicia Clark, w NBPA vice president,

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Speaker 2: kind enough to spend some time with us here on

786
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Speaker 2: this Saturday on Fox Sports Radio.

787
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Speaker 3: She's seen three cbas come and go and.

788
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 2: Got to be a huge part of negotiating this one

789
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Speaker 2: for the health of the sport and for the betterment

790
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Speaker 2: of the players. Alicia, again, congratulations to you and all

791
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 2: the women who have fought for this opportunity and continue

792
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 2: to fight for women to have more opportunities in that sport.

793
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Speaker 2: It's just a really, really cool thing, and we're grateful

794
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Speaker 2: to have some time with you here on this show.

795
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Speaker 4: Oh, thank you so much, and I appreciate you guys

796
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Speaker 4: having me and just continuing to help celebrate, you know,

797
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Speaker 4: these milestones for women athletes.

798
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's Alisia Clark there with us on Fox Sports Radio.

799
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Speaker 2: We'll continue to react to what's going on in the

800
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Speaker 2: men's side of the bracket because we do have some

801
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 2: updates you need to be paying attention to. He's Jason

802
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 2: fitz I'm Buck Rising hanging out here with you on

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: Radio, you Cohn. Their lead is dwindling.

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Speaker 2: Early on or late rather in the first half of

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Speaker 2: this first Final four game between the Huskies and the

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Speaker 2: ALIGNI keep you updated the course of the show today,

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00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 2: but quickly, FITZI, since we just had such a lovely

810
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 2: visit with Alicia Clark, I do want to talk about

811
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Speaker 2: the women's Final four last night with Gino with Don Staley,

812
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 2: with Yukon just smoking, or rather South Carolina just smoking

813
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 2: Yukon sixty two forty eight after Yukon had been a

814
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 2: juggernaut all year long. And it may well be that

815
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 2: the winner of that game is just going to win

816
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Speaker 2: the title. In Don Staley, who's done a lot of

817
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Speaker 2: winning of consequence in her career. Gino Arima obviously one

818
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Speaker 2: of the most accomplished figures in women's college basketball anywhere

819
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Speaker 2: in sports.

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Speaker 3: Frankly, as you watched that conflict.

821
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Speaker 2: At the end, though, because as Alicia mentioned, it was

822
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Speaker 2: a shame that the dramatics at the end of the

823
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 2: game took away from the actual basketball that was played

824
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 2: on behalf of South Carolina. Gino Arima is one of

825
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,240
Speaker 2: the most petulant figures in all of sports. And whatever

826
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 2: he said to Don Staley to set her off that way,

827
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Speaker 2: I think that's pretty lucky that Dawn's staff was there

828
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 2: to hold her back.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And you know the unfortunate thing about it is

830
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 5: it was a huge win for South Carolina and Gino

831
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 5: made it about Gino, which is just so crazy to me.

832
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 5: Even if you felt disrespected because you felt like there

833
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 5: wasn't a handshake, and by the way he was asked

834
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Speaker 5: afterwards about the fact that there's video evidence of a

835
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 5: handshake before the game, video and photo evidence, and his

836
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,399
Speaker 5: response to the reporter was, you're missing the point.

837
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Speaker 6: So Gino was so in his fields in that moment.

838
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 5: The very coach that stands in front of his team

839
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 5: and says, hey, play within your emotions can't control his emotions,

840
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 5: ends up looking like a child, and.

841
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 6: It takes away from a massive upset. South Carolina has

842
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 6: spent the last year.

843
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 5: Remembering just a butt whooping in a national championship game,

844
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,760
Speaker 5: and they came out and showed that against an undefeated

845
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,240
Speaker 5: Yukon team. That should be the story book, but Gino

846
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 5: made the story. Gino and how loud he apologizes, unless

847
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 5: it's as loud as his actual moment was, A lot

848
00:38:59,239 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 5: of us are.

849
00:38:59,600 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 6: Going to roll.

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00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 11: Yeah.

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00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 2: And that's the thing like Pat Summit, obviously, as I

852
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 2: sit here doing the show from Nashville, State of Tennessee.

853
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 2: State of Tennessee means a great deal to the history

854
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 2: of women's college basketball. For Pat Summit to feel the

855
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 2: way that you did about Geno Arima, I feel like,

856
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 2: tells me everything I need to know about Geno.

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00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 5: You're not wrong you're not wrong, Like, it's not the

858
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 5: first time that he's been questioned by a legend.

859
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Speaker 6: So and you know Don's not gonna let it go.

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Speaker 6: That's gonna fuel South Carolina.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 2: Well, we'll continue to break down the men's Final four

863
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,959
Speaker 2: now that we have a women's championship game set. Stick

864
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 2: around right here on Fox Sports Radio. You're listening to

865
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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Radio. Illinois is trying to battle back

866
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Speaker 2: against Yukon in this first game of the Final Four.

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Speaker 3: Will they be able to pull this win off? As

868
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Speaker 3: they were.

869
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 2: Favored heading in tonight's game? Of course, we got Michigan

870
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 2: and Arizona on the docket as well to decide who

871
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 2: will be playing in the National Championship. He's Jason Fitz.

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00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 2: I'm abouck Rising, hanging out here with you on this

873
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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday. Bucking fits fitsy on assignment for the

874
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Speaker 2: IFL on the outskirts of Indianapolis where the Final Four

875
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 2: is currently taking place. And you said your plane was

876
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 2: overrun with Yukon huskies and fans and chants and all

877
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 2: manner of different things.

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Speaker 3: Do you enjoy that on your flight or you curmudgine

879
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Speaker 3: like me?

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Speaker 2: And would you yell at people to shut up because

881
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 2: you're trying to sleep on the plane, because I would

882
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 2: do that.

883
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 9: It is.

884
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,439
Speaker 6: It is the worst. I like, look, I can sleep.

885
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 5: I still have my molded like in ears that I

886
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,240
Speaker 5: wore when I toured, like so I can't hear anything

887
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 5: when I put those in. But just the y'all, Like,

888
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 5: just realize when you step on the plane, maybe everybody doesn't.

889
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 6: Really care why you're traveling. It's the same thing.

890
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 5: Like I don't understand, like as a person that travels

891
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 5: a lot of Southwest and have my whole life, like

892
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 5: I've always had status in Southwest.

893
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 6: I've got the Southwest credit card, I've got all the things.

894
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 6: I I'm all in our Southwest right, I fly it

895
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 6: all the time.

896
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 5: I do not understand why so often planes applaud when

897
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 5: you land, like that's the bare minimum, you landed the

898
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 5: plane without killing us. I shouldn't have to applaud that

899
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 5: you made it through that, like congratulations, huzzah, captain, you

900
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 5: landed the plane.

901
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 6: I don't understand behavior.

902
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 5: And flyers like I don't understand I was in the

903
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 5: exit row last week because I'm flying around in the

904
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 5: indoor footballing I mean their row. I've got a couple

905
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,280
Speaker 5: next to it, and they make you take your headphones

906
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 5: off to audibly tell them that you can help. I

907
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 5: had a couple they came onto the plane that was

908
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 5: not of an age that they were gonna help anybody.

909
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 6: We had to help them get their bags into the overhead.

910
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 5: Then she proceeded the elderly lady next to me to

911
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 5: take her shoes off to get nice and comfy.

912
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 6: Then they start slamming wine.

913
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 5: I mean they are slamming wine before we've even gotten

914
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 5: into the air.

915
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 6: They were having their first wine. They're getting tanked. And

916
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 6: then but yeah, they can help you in an emergency.

917
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 3: Row.

918
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 5: I don't understand flyers, and I don't understand like when

919
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 5: you get on the plane, even if you are in Connecticut,

920
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 5: need you cur.

921
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 6: Like I don't need that. I don't need you.

922
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 5: I don't need to chance save your champ for the arena.

923
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 5: Right now on the plane, I need to sit down,

924
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 5: shut up coloring your books so we can take off

925
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 5: and we can all rest.

926
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 2: I thought I was gonna be the curmudgeon. I really,

927
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 2: I really thought that I was gonna be the bad

928
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 2: guy here. I know, I know it's a huge upset

929
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:25,240
Speaker 2: that FITZI would lack more whimsy in this particular situation

930
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 2: than I would. I'm actually surprised that you're not one

931
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 2: of these people that's down to bring the party to

932
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 2: the plane.

933
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 3: Because I you know, I'm I I'm not.

934
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 6: I get it.

935
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 2: Like I understand, everybody's fired up, everybody's making a trip together.

936
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 2: You see a lot of people in uh, you know,

937
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,439
Speaker 2: similar jerseys or uniforms and all.

938
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 3: These different things.

939
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 2: So you're gonna get You're gonna get fired up, You're

940
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 2: gonna get the party started before you even arrive in

941
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 2: Indy for the Final four. Indy well suited for these

942
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 2: kind of events anyway, and God knows there's going to

943
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 2: be a lot of partying around this particular final four

944
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 2: or if, especially of Arizona advances.

945
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 3: I can't even imagine what that's going to look like.

946
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 2: I was in Arizona for the game that saw them

947
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 2: advanced to the Final four. Fitsie just hanging out at

948
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 2: NFL owners meetings last week when you were also on assignment,

949
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 2: Fitzy doing a lot of work for the ifl over.

950
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 3: The course of the spring and summer.

951
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 2: But this this Arizona team, I don't think it really

952
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 2: matters who advances at this.

953
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 3: Illinois Yukon game.

954
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 2: I feel like Arizona or Michigan is going to smack

955
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 2: whoever ends up in the National Championship.

956
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you're a thousand percent right.

957
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 5: This is the league game tonight is the best game

958
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 5: that we're going to get over the next several days.

959
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 5: And you know, look, I think and also it is

960
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 5: interesting because you know, I don't know how many times

961
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 5: you've been around the Final Four, but you know, when you.

962
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 2: Think, so one event that I actually want to go

963
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 2: to that I haven't been able to. I mean, not

964
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 2: that I haven't been able to go to. I'm sure

965
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 2: if I really really put some effort in, I could

966
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 2: get to a Final four and get d Eentild or

967
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 2: something like that. But yeah, that's why I'm hoping that

968
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 2: Nashville ends up hop hosting the Final Four once the

969
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 2: new Nissance Stadium opens for the Titans, not necessarily about

970
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 2: the Titans games, about all the other cool things that

971
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 2: they're going to bring to Nashville.

972
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 5: In that situation, it is truly one of the most

973
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 5: elite things to get to be around in all of sports.

974
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 6: I've been lucky.

975
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 5: ESPN never sent me Yahoo has sent me a couple

976
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 5: of times, and it just hits different. Everything about the

977
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 5: experience hits different. But one thing we all have to

978
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 5: think about is that, you know, people buy their plane

979
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 5: tickets and they get ready, they get here. The way

980
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 5: that tickets are sold, you have to buy basically for

981
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 5: the whole weekend.

982
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 3: So you have to buy.

983
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 5: You couldn't just buy one of the two games today,

984
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 5: you have to buy both of them, and you have

985
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 5: to buy the championship in advance. So what happens for

986
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 5: all of this is that tonight two of the four

987
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 5: teams will be eliminated, which means they'll just sell their tickets.

988
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 5: So I was at the Yukon Purdue championship game, for example,

989
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 5: a couple of years ago. Well you know, there just

990
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 5: weren't that many fans in the stadium for the championship game,

991
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,399
Speaker 5: and almost all of them were Purdue fans.

992
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 6: Because frankly, Yukon was.

993
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 5: Back to back at that point, they didn't have the

994
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 5: same fire in the belly for the fans.

995
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,760
Speaker 6: So the place is overrun by Purdue.

996
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 5: I think it actually gets kind of interesting if we

997
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 5: get to a championship game that has Michigan or Illinois.

998
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 5: Proximity to Indiana makes it really easy for everybody to

999
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 5: try and fill that place up on Monday night, So

1000
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 5: I think Monday could actually be sort of electric with

1001
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 5: the crowd. But you're also right, how many people have

1002
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 5: flown here with Arizona because you finally have a chance.

1003
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 5: And I don't know what's a weirder stat for everybody

1004
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 5: that we haven't seen a Big Ten champion since whatever

1005
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 5: it is two thousand, or that we haven't seen a

1006
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 5: champion in the Pacific time zone since nineteen ninety seven.

1007
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 5: When Arizona did it, like it's wild the droughts that

1008
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 5: could come to an end if Michigan, you know, or Illinois,

1009
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 5: but particularly Michigan, Arizona looked like the favorites to end

1010
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 5: a significant drought in college basketball.

1011
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 2: I think people would be more surprised about the Big

1012
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 2: Ten route because that's that even if they haven't been

1013
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 2: the best college basketball conference, because the Big Twelve has moments,

1014
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 2: the ACC has obviously long standing historical success in college basketball.

1015
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 2: The SEC has really made inroads, I would say, in

1016
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 2: the last ten years and has at times been the

1017
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 2: best college basketball conference the Big Ten. People associate that

1018
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 2: conference with excellence in college basketball in the same way

1019
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 2: that I think they hold the ACC in that similar esteem.

1020
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 3: But it's just not been the case.

1021
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 5: Would it not feel disappointing Because I've talked to so

1022
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 5: many Big Ten fans in my life just about what

1023
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 5: they're rooting for, and certainly, if you're a Michigan State fan,

1024
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 5: you're never rooting for Michigan. But there's a little piece

1025
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 5: of many Big Ten fans that are just sitting there saying, Hey,

1026
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 5: this is a chance to make a statement, given how

1027
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 5: many Big Ten teams advanced into the Elite eight, and

1028
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 5: you know, given the fact that you have two of

1029
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 5: the four Suite two of the four Final four teams

1030
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 5: or Big Ten teams, Like, I just wonder how disappointing

1031
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 5: it would feel to that entire conference if, yet again,

1032
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 5: you walk out of this whole thing empty, Andy, Because

1033
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 5: you're right, I think the consistency of and the amount

1034
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 5: of attention we paid to Big Ten basketball just makes

1035
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 5: it feel different.

1036
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 6: And this Michigan team has felt different all year.

1037
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 5: Like I hesitate to ever say we'd be disappointing for

1038
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 5: a team to not win a championship, because I think

1039
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 5: there's so many variables that go into it. But this

1040
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 5: Michigan season to end without a championship, I think would

1041
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 5: force us to look at this season much differently because

1042
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 5: they have been so dominant at times in this season.

1043
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 5: To walk away with nothing but a footnote that, hey,

1044
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 5: we made it to the Final Four with just not

1045
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 5: I mean, that would sit in the minds I would

1046
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:33,760
Speaker 5: think of Michigan fans.

1047
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 6: For a long time.

1048
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, we are at the half, for what it's worth.

1049
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 2: In this first Final Four game, Yukon leads thirty seven

1050
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 2: to Illinois's twenty nine. You cannot buy any stretch of

1051
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 2: the imagination comfortable right now, even though they're hanging on

1052
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:48,439
Speaker 2: to that lead.

1053
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 3: It's been a three point battle so far.

1054
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 2: Illinois is three of fourteen, Yukon seven of eighteen, so

1055
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 2: obviously giving themselves a significant advantage. Illinois has just won

1056
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 2: a session in the entire half. Yukon zero turnovers so

1057
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 2: far in this game. You had made a note in

1058
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 2: our show group text before we went on the air

1059
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 2: today FITZI about the North Carolina job and Tommy Lloyd

1060
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 2: at Arizona, who is of course going to stay at

1061
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 2: Arizona moving forward. Tommy Lloyd turned down reportedly the North

1062
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 2: Carolina basketball coaching job, and they still don't have a resolution.

1063
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 2: It's going to be so curious to see who they

1064
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 2: end up landing on, given the profile of that job,

1065
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 2: the scrutiny of that job, frankly, the fact that that

1066
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 2: athletic department is already kind of under fire for the

1067
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick stuff, where you had a split decision as

1068
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:47,760
Speaker 2: far as boosters being on one side, alumni being on another,

1069
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 2: vice versa, as far as the Bill Belichick hire goes.

1070
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 2: So you know that there's going to be some contentiousness

1071
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 2: with the basketball higher given it that is the significantly

1072
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 2: more important hire at North Carolina. What do we make

1073
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 2: of Tommy Lloyd turning down UNC?

1074
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 5: I think the fact that he's turned down, at least

1075
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 5: reportedly an offer from UNC that would have made him

1076
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 5: the second highest co paid coach in college basketball.

1077
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 6: He took less money the state of Arizona. But this

1078
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 6: is the most.

1079
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 5: College football thing that's happened to college basketball, and it's

1080
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 5: just we got to step back. We got to step

1081
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 5: back whatever we're talking whatever college sport we're talking about,

1082
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 5: we have to understand that the concept of cachet is

1083
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 5: no longer what it once was because certainly we look

1084
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 5: across the board constantly in college football and now in

1085
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 5: college basketball, and this is in this situation and we

1086
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 5: talk about, well, that job just means so much, that

1087
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 5: brand means so much, the history means so much. A

1088
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 5: coach would want to go there. You see Tommy Lloyd say,

1089
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 5: you know what, I'm good at Arizona. Why because every

1090
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 5: year he's going to have a shot at a national

1091
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 5: championship game in Arizona.

1092
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,240
Speaker 6: Every single year, he's.

1093
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 5: Got a path that's going to get him into the

1094
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,439
Speaker 5: NCAA tournament. He's got to pack the great record, he's

1095
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 5: got to pack to incredibly successful regular seasons. Like I

1096
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 5: just think that we need to recalibrate the way we

1097
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 5: consider certain jobs because what we're forgetting is that now

1098
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 5: in the modern landscape, when everybody can pay everybody, Kurt

1099
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 5: Signetti can go out and find better success in Indiana. Like,

1100
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 5: why would Kurt Signetti ever leave for any other college

1101
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 5: football job because he can win Natties and be incredibly

1102
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 5: well paid in Indiana. I think we're seeing that now

1103
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 5: in college basketball too, Like this concept of well you

1104
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 5: got to want to be the coach of Duke, you

1105
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 5: gotta want to be the coach at North Carolina, do you?

1106
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 6: Because if you.

1107
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 5: Win a bunch of games in Arizona, life is pretty

1108
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 5: good and the money is pretty even all.

1109
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 6: The way across the board. And oh, by the way,

1110
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 6: you don't have to worry.

1111
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 5: About taking your family out to dinner and having the

1112
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:45,879
Speaker 5: waitress give you a piece of their.

1113
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 6: Mind because you didn't beat Duke last week.

1114
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 5: Like I just quality of life, the understanding of platform,

1115
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 5: the ability to win wherever you are, the spreadout of recruits.

1116
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 5: I think NIL has changed coaching movement in a beautiful way.

1117
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 6: It deaus there's a lot more consideration.

1118
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 5: Cachet alone is no longer a reason that somebody leaves

1119
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 5: a great job for another job that.

1120
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 6: Some people would con see to be better.

1121
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 2: You saw the Tommy Lloyd quote about turning down the

1122
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 2: UNC opportunity, right, No.

1123
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 6: I didn't see it in the fault enough.

1124
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 3: Okay.

1125
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 2: So he was asked about this at a press conference

1126
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,760
Speaker 2: this week. He called North Carolina quote an amazing place.

1127
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 2: He said that there was no phone call that happened

1128
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 2: between him and Michael Jordan, obviously, who was a UNC alum.

1129
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 2: And this was the quote that followed that it's an

1130
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 2: honor to be to even be considered for that job.

1131
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 2: With that being said, though, I made a decision that

1132
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 2: you know, my Michael Jordan is Steve.

1133
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 3: Kerr and I'm proud to be in Arizona. Wodcat. That

1134
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 3: some world class pandering.

1135
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 5: That is absolutely you know anytime you know, guys, it's

1136
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 5: just an honor to have even been considered. But I'm

1137
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 5: going in a different direction and I'm going to throw

1138
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,399
Speaker 5: out Kurt like that, Yeah, that's beautifully played.

1139
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 6: That is beautif played.

1140
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 5: And you know, pander away because you just he also

1141
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 5: got his assistance, more money, he got more budget for recruits,

1142
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 5: he got everything he could want to continue to win

1143
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 5: games at Arizona. And that's the craziest part about it, Buck,

1144
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 5: is that you know, ten years ago, North Carolina probably

1145
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 5: had a much better.

1146
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 6: Path to a championship year in and year out than

1147
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:21,720
Speaker 6: other schools.

1148
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 5: Just like in college football, ten years ago, Alabama had

1149
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 5: a better path to a championship than Indiana could ever imagine,

1150
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 5: what do you do when that's no longer the case.

1151
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 5: That's what we're seeing, that is what we're It's not

1152
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 5: going to change the fact that you know, if you

1153
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 5: have an inkling a success at a school like Belmont,

1154
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,240
Speaker 5: then you're going to suddenly try and blow.

1155
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 6: That up into a better job like that. That's not

1156
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 6: going to change.

1157
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 5: But the concept that you're at a team that's winning

1158
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,399
Speaker 5: championships and so suddenly you need to go to North

1159
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 5: Carolina because it's North Carolina is dead and.

1160
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 6: I love it.

1161
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 3: I love it. Yeah.

1162
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 2: Shout out to former Belmont coach Casey Alexander, who is

1163
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 2: now the head coach at Kansas State after having great

1164
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 2: success at Belmont.

1165
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 3: So speaking of success, there is nobody.

1166
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 2: More successful when it comes to negotiating NFL contracts than

1167
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,800
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins. And Kirk Cousins is now going to be

1168
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 2: one of the newest members of Jason Fitz's Las Vegas Raiders.

1169
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 2: We'll talk about it, what it means for the Raiders

1170
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 2: and Fernando Mendoza as the future number one overall pick.

1171
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 2: Coming up next on Fox Sports Radio these Jason Fitz,

1172
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:29,280
Speaker 2: I'm Buck Rising hanging out here with you on Fox

1173
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 2: Sports Radio. So it's not really the last NFL quarterback

1174
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 2: domino to fall this offseason, though, it is one of

1175
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 2: consequence and it's got something to do with Jason Fitz's

1176
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 2: Las Vegas Raiders a five year, one hundred and seventy

1177
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 2: two million dollar deal with Kirk Cousins to come in

1178
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 2: and be starting quarterback for a period of time and

1179
00:53:55,520 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 2: future transition quarterback for number one overall pick forer Nando Mendoza. Now,

1180
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 2: when you get into the nuts and bolts of the deal,

1181
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 2: it's like one year eleven point three, I think, is

1182
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 2: what the the contract ultimately ends up being. And you're

1183
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 2: also getting some money that Cousins is making from the

1184
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 2: Atlanta Falcons after they released him. But you know, you

1185
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 2: get about a twenty million dollar pay day again if

1186
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 2: you're Kirk Cousins at thirty seven years old.

1187
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,280
Speaker 3: Fitzy, do you like the move for your Raiders?

1188
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 6: This was a home run and like this is I

1189
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 6: think this is an incredible move. I don't just like it,

1190
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:31,800
Speaker 6: I love it.

1191
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 5: And on Yahoo Sports Daily, which you can listen to

1192
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 5: with me and Caroline Fenton, I've been calling for almost

1193
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 5: two months that Kirk Cousins would be the inevitable starting

1194
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 5: quarterback here.

1195
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 6: So there's a couple of things.

1196
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 5: As you mentioned, it's eleven point three million dollars out

1197
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,879
Speaker 5: of the Raiders pocket and it's carved.

1198
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 6: Out in a way that you know.

1199
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,720
Speaker 5: Mike Florio from Pro Football Talk immediately said, the league's

1200
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 5: going to look to close the loophole because what they're

1201
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 5: doing is paying him one point three million dollars this

1202
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 5: year and a ten million dollar bonus next year that's

1203
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 5: already guaranteed. By paying it next year, it forces the

1204
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 5: Falcons to still pay their ten million dollars they owe

1205
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 5: this year instead of offset. Right, So it's a way

1206
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 5: for Kirk and Cousins to just make a bunch more money.

1207
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 5: So Kirk's agent brilliant move. It makes him a twenty

1208
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,919
Speaker 5: million dollar quarterback basically, but the Raiders are.

1209
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 6: Only on the hook for eleven point three million dollars.

1210
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 5: And here's the thing, Like you were just at the

1211
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 5: owners meetings, John Spytek, the GM of the Raiders. If

1212
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 5: you look at his history, he's so bluntly honest that

1213
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 5: people think he's lying. And I'll go back to before

1214
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 5: the brock Powers Draft when he was asked how he

1215
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 5: looked at, you know, the draft knee versus best player available,

1216
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 5: and he said, I'll take the best player available no

1217
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 5: matter what.

1218
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 6: Well, that's exactly what they did, and everyone thought it

1219
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:42,879
Speaker 6: was shocking until brock Powers worked out to be great.

1220
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 5: And last year there was a question you take a

1221
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 5: running back at you know six overall where the Raiders

1222
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 5: were picking, and his answer repeatedly was, we're not worried

1223
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 5: about that. We're worried about getting the best player we

1224
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 5: can in that spot. Blah blah blah blah blah.

1225
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 3: What do you know.

1226
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 5: We'll go back to a couple of months ago when

1227
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 5: Spy Tech and Clint Kubiak both said clearly, we do

1228
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 5: not believe a young quarterback should have to start Week one.

1229
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 3: So what do they do?

1230
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 5: They get their Alex Smith if they believe that they're

1231
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,439
Speaker 5: going to draft their Patrick Mahomes. And I'm not saying

1232
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 5: he belongs in that category, but you know what I mean,

1233
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 5: your future franchise quarterback. The one thing that Mahomes has

1234
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 5: said repeatedly in interviews is that he credits Alex Smith

1235
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 5: for being the pro that taught him here's the.

1236
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 6: Way to strust your week, here's the.

1237
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 5: Best day to do this, Here's the right way to

1238
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,839
Speaker 5: break down film on the Here's how to live your

1239
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 5: life as a pro. That's what Kirk Cousin steps in

1240
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 5: and does from day one for Fernando Mendoza. Takes all

1241
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 5: of the pressure off. If Fernando wins the job, great,

1242
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 5: but if he doesn't win the job, great. Kirk can

1243
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 5: go out there, he can take the beating behind an

1244
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 5: offensive line that still needs some improvement. Fernando can learn,

1245
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 5: and whenever he's ready, he steps in. I just I

1246
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 5: think this is what competent teams do. Stop chasing trying

1247
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 5: to be good next year, and start chasing trying to

1248
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 5: lay the foundation to being good long term.

1249
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 6: I love this move.

1250
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 2: Well, and that brings it full circle for me anyway, Fitz,

1251
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 2: because I you are getting ready to root for the

1252
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 2: future number one overall pick in Fernanda Mendoza. I am

1253
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 2: covering the most recent number one overall pick who started

1254
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 2: all seventeen games. Now, he didn't finish all seventeen games.

1255
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 2: He got knocked out of the Week eighteen start cam

1256
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 2: Moore did against the Jacksonville Jaguars. He ran in a

1257
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 2: touchdown at an ac joint sprain in his shoulder that

1258
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 2: shut him down for the rest of the game, and

1259
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 2: at that point, obviously their season was over, so there

1260
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 2: was no point putting him back out there to battle

1261
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 2: through an injury that he just needed to rest and

1262
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 2: recover from. But there was never any question that they

1263
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 2: were going to start cam from day one. And I'm

1264
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 2: sure that you don't have to take the same tact

1265
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 2: with every player, understanding that organizations are in different spots.

1266
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 2: But I kind of go a little bit revisionist here

1267
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 2: with the Titans circumstance and say, why the hell didn't

1268
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 2: you get somebody better for him than Brandon Allen, who

1269
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 2: was the Titans backup quarterback last year? And there was

1270
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 2: the logic was system familiarity with the current coaching staff

1271
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 2: that has obviously since been fired in Brian Callahan and

1272
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 2: everybody else that was working for Brian Callahan at the time,

1273
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 2: Robert Salaz now the coach in Tennessee, Brian Dables the

1274
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator. But for cam Ward, couldn't things have been

1275
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 2: made a lot a hell of a lot easier. It's

1276
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 2: always going to be a struggle, it's always going to

1277
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 2: be adversity. You're going to be put in some bad

1278
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 2: situations when you are a rookie quarterback making any kind

1279
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 2: of a start, whether it be week one or week fifteen,

1280
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 2: for a team that was most recently picking first overall.

1281
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 2: But I look at the way that Cam's rookie season

1282
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 2: went and said and say to myself, how the hell

1283
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 2: did they not have a more viable option that could

1284
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 2: at least give Cam some level of grace before they

1285
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 2: just threw him out there to the Wolves literally at

1286
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 2: Denver in Week one against that defense.

1287
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 5: I think, when you look at some of the things

1288
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 5: that have to go right, this is where the Titans

1289
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 5: went wrong last year. I've said this to you before,

1290
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 5: but I think for the Raiders it speaks loudly now.

1291
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 5: I need when you draft a quarterback number one overall,

1292
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 5: I need everybody in the building two things. One, I

1293
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 5: need everybody on the same timeline right. And that happens

1294
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 5: for the Raiders now because Clint Kubiak comes in so

1295
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 5: and one thing that Spytech admitted after Carol was fired

1296
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 5: from the Raiders. One thing he admitted is I think

1297
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 5: we have to take a long look at our roster

1298
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 5: and understand that this is going to be.

1299
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 6: A hard process.

1300
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 5: So what your GM and your new coach are telling

1301
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 5: you is like, hey, we're on a multi year rebuild plan.

1302
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 5: So I love that because that changes some of your

1303
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 5: expectations when you walk in and then the other thing

1304
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 5: is that when you draft quarterback number one overall, everybody

1305
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 5: down to the janitor needs to speak the love language

1306
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 5: of that quarterback. Every single person in the building needs

1307
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 5: to speak to developing the quarterback because you're no longer

1308
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 5: going to be judged on wins and losses. You're going

1309
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 5: to be judged on whether or not do you have

1310
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 5: the guy that will lead your franchise for the next

1311
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 5: fifteen years, because that's what you get when you get

1312
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 5: it right. That's why I look at year one and

1313
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 5: I think there's such a grace period to it. Only

1314
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 5: one quarterback drafted first overall since the year two thousand

1315
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 5: Andrew Luck has had a winning season his rookie year.

1316
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 5: Every other quarterback is not. So that tells you that historically,

1317
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 5: when you're drafting first overall, it's going to be a process.

1318
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 5: So if you look at it and say, man, even

1319
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 5: though I think the Raiders have spent really good money

1320
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 5: to get much better, I really believe that there's still

1321
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 5: probably a six win team. So if you're going to

1322
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 5: go through the ups and downs of a six win team,

1323
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 5: who cares whether or not you've got Fernando or Quirk

1324
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 5: at the quarterback position this year. What you care about

1325
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 5: is what's Fernando learning along the way, what's he viewing,

1326
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 5: how's he getting better, How's he get better every single day?

1327
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 5: For some guys, that's time on task, and certainly being

1328
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 5: in games helps for some guys. But I also think

1329
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 5: that just letting him learn what it's like to be

1330
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 5: a pro is not the worst thing in the world.

1331
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 5: Like him figure it out. But if he figures it out,

1332
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 5: he's figuring it out on his own every step of

1333
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 5: the way. I'd much rather have a support system helping

1334
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 5: my young quarterback lift him up, whether he's playing week one,

1335
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 5: week ten, or not.

1336
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 6: Until year two.

1337
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 2: We are going to get into some more NFL news

1338
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 2: and also keep you updated with what's happening in the

1339
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 2: Final Four, because the.

1340
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 3: Eagles have been messy again yet again this week.

1341
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 2: But first, Martin is gonna make us smarter about what's

1342
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 2: happening on the basketball court.

1343
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 3: Right now.

1344
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 10: You got about fifteen minutes thirty seconds left in the

1345
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 10: second half and Illinois down by eleven, Yukon with a

1346
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 10: forty seven to thirty six lead in the Final Four.

1347
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 3: The first game of two.

1348
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 10: In the men's Final Four, Yukon being led in scoring

1349
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 10: by Brayln Mullins.

1350
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 3: He's got twelve.

1351
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 10: That's the hero from the last game against Duke Terris

1352
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 10: Ree Junior's got eleven.

1353
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 3: Alex Caravan has seven.

1354
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 10: On the Illinois side of things, Keaton Woggler has fourteen points.

1355
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 10: Getting ready for Michigan in Arizona. That game we'll tip

1356
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 10: shortly after this one is over. That's about eight forty

1357
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 10: nine looking for that first tip from Michigan in Arizona.

1358
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 10: In Major League Baseball, bottom of the first inning, the

1359
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 10: Marlins lead the Yankees two to nothing. Top of the second,

1360
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 10: Reds two to nothing over the Rangers. The Raising Twins

1361
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 10: scoreless three one inning. Bottom of the second, the Royers

1362
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 10: and Royer Brewers and Royals. That's easy for me to say.

1363
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 10: Game two of a double header, bottom of the second, scoreless. There,

1364
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 10: top of the second, Braves and Diamondbacks both scoreless. Game

1365
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 10: one of that Brewers Royals doubleheader was a five to

1366
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 10: two win for Milwaukee. White Sox beat the Blue Jay

1367
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 10: six to three, Pirates best of the Orioles three to two,

1368
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 10: Dodgers ten to five over the Nationals, Astros eleven nothing

1369
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 10: over the A's and the Padres squeak past the Red

1370
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 10: Sox three excuse me, three to two. The Tigers beat

1371
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 10: the Cardinals eleven to six. That game was called with

1372
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 10: one out in the top of the ninth inning due

1373
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 10: to a rain delay. Justin Verlander is gonna have to

1374
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 10: wait to make his home debut because he's on the

1375
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 10: injured list with a hip injury. In the NBA, the

1376
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 10: Denver Nuggets improved their win streak to eight in a

1377
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 10: row the one thirty six to one thirty four win

1378
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 10: over the San Antonio Spurs. Nicole Jokich had forty points,

1379
01:02:56,640 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 10: eight rebounds, thirteen assists, Victor Wan Benyama four points and

1380
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 10: eighteen rebounds, and just a stat studded affair. Right now

1381
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 10: the Pistons lead to seventy six ers twenty nine to

1382
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 10: twenty three. With three point thirty left in the first quarter,

1383
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 10: we saw the Heat beat the Wizards one fifty two

1384
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 10: to one thirty six.

1385
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 3: Kyo Ware had a hell of a game. He had

1386
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 3: twenty four points.

1387
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 10: Also, adding to that twenty four points, he had nineteen

1388
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 10: rebounds and seven blocks.

1389
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 3: So wembin Yama type stat line fellas back to you.

1390
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 2: He's Jason Fitz I'm Buck Rising hanging out here with

1391
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 2: you on this Fox Sports Saturday Bucking fits as is

1392
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 2: the custom. So there was a report from Tim McManus,

1393
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 2: who is the ESPN dot com Eagles beat writer, and

1394
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 2: Jeremy Fowler, one of ESPN's national NFL insiders, detailing a

1395
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 2: lot of the friction that went on with the twenty

1396
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 2: twenty five Philadelphia Eagles, as.

1397
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 3: If that has not been documented exhaustively enough.

1398
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 2: But among the different things that we learned in this

1399
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 2: piece FITSI is that Jalen Hurts comes under a lot

1400
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 2: of external criticism about his play, but now he is

1401
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 2: also receiving internal criticisms about the way that he goes

1402
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 2: about his job, about his level of input and his

1403
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 2: level of comfort with some of the plays that former

1404
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator now because he's since been fired, Kevin Patulo

1405
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 2: was calling, especially in critical waning moments of their home

1406
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 2: playoff game, a game in which they lost at home

1407
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 2: to the San Francisco forty nine ers, who were basically

1408
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 2: out there starting you and me at defensive end and

1409
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:44,959
Speaker 2: defensive tackle. The Jalen Hurts component of this story, where

1410
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 2: he is being described as having poor body language and

1411
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 2: can be difficult to work with at times, and even

1412
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 2: described by some as not the easiest to coach.

1413
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 3: That is not what Jalen hurts with.

1414
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 2: A mild mannered persona and a mono tone delivery often

1415
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 2: gives off, in fact, a lot of that character. A

1416
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 2: lot of those characteristics are assigned to aj Brown, who

1417
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 2: is constantly tweeting and deleting various messages on social media,

1418
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 2: expressing in so many different ways his frustration.

1419
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 3: But what do we think about this, Jalen Hurtz report.

1420
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 5: I'm interested to think to hear what you about anonymous sources,

1421
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 5: because you're really well positioned to talk about this. To me,

1422
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 5: it's hard to get anybody to talk on the record,

1423
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 5: and I'll just be, you know, wildly transparent. Like if

1424
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 5: somebody put a microphone in front of my face right

1425
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 5: now and said, hey, what do you think of and

1426
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 5: listed five bosses at ESPN? My answer to that would

1427
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 5: be they're all great. And I think to say, because

1428
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 5: there's no win in saying anything. Now, if somebody came

1429
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 5: to me that I trusted and said, off the record,

1430
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 5: what has your experience been with these five bosses, I

1431
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 5: might have something different to say, because you know, frankly,

1432
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 5: I can be more comfortable to be open.

1433
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 6: That's just being real. Like I have an NDA with

1434
01:05:58,320 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 6: the Van Parry, So even.

1435
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 5: If somebody wants it on the record for me to

1436
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 5: say something about the band, I literally can't, So I

1437
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 5: have to be off the record. A lot of fans

1438
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 5: have looked at some of that stuff and said, oh,

1439
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 5: talking off.

1440
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 6: The record is cowardly, and they're making it.

1441
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 3: Up to me.

1442
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 5: When people are willing to speak, even off the record

1443
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 5: about your starting quarterback the way that he's spoken about,

1444
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 5: and they're willing to call out some of the things

1445
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 5: that he's doing, I think it's a huge statement to

1446
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 5: toxicity inside the building. It's a huge statement of people

1447
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 5: wanting to make sure that Jalen Hurts knows that they're

1448
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 5: not happy. Like they're not talking to Jeremy Fowler. They're

1449
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 5: talking to Jalen Hurts. They're just using Jeremy Fowler's pen

1450
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 5: to do it. So I think it was a statement

1451
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 5: that the players, organization, coaches, everybody wants.

1452
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 6: Jalen Hurts to know they feel some kind of way,

1453
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 6: and that to me stands out well.

1454
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 2: And the thing that we don't know because to your point,

1455
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 2: this is what I do on a day to day

1456
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 2: basis covering an NFL team here in Nashville specifically, certainly

1457
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 2: not the profile of the Philadelphia Eagles, though I did

1458
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 2: have aj for the first three years of his career

1459
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 2: when he was drafted here in the second round out

1460
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 2: of Ole miss before John Robinson, who has since been

1461
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 2: treated like a war criminal these last four years, the

1462
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 2: former general manager that God traded him to Philadelphia.

1463
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 3: By the way, shout out to John J.

1464
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 2: Rob Back in the league with the Dolphins in an

1465
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 2: assistant personnel advisory capacity, I did see that him and

1466
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 2: Malik Willis reuniting, which is an interesting storyline just from Afar.

1467
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 2: But for the purposes of this, FITZI, our jobs are

1468
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 2: impossible people who report, not just teams, but anything. You

1469
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 2: have to have people who are comfortable having off the

1470
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 2: record conversations with you. And I understand why on the

1471
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 2: consumer side of things, it would be easy to dismiss

1472
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 2: anonymous sources or discredit anonymous sources because you're not totally

1473
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 2: familiar with the nature the way that the information exchange

1474
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 2: has to exist for there to be credible reporting done

1475
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:05,960
Speaker 2: on this. The thing that we don't know that I

1476
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 2: would point out about at least from my perspective on

1477
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 2: this story, is how often, how early and often have

1478
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 2: people with the Eagles, whether it be teammates, coaches, executives, ownership,

1479
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 2: Because we know ownership had to step in with Carson

1480
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 2: Wentz and Doug Peterson a couple of years ago, and

1481
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 2: Jeff Lurry is not above that as probably the most

1482
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 2: respected owner in the NFL right now, what we don't

1483
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:32,679
Speaker 2: know is how often people inside that organization have tried

1484
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 2: to do this privately? Because I covering, how many different

1485
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:40,679
Speaker 2: coaches have we had in Tennessee now since I've done this, Malarkey,

1486
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 2: Vrabel Callahan, and now Robert sala So sala is my

1487
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:50,799
Speaker 2: fourth coach. The last coach that I had or covered

1488
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:54,800
Speaker 2: that was trying to message two players through the media

1489
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:55,479
Speaker 2: was Malarkey.

1490
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 3: It's a very old school way of doing.

1491
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:01,400
Speaker 2: Things, and the tact with he was here before he

1492
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 2: became the Patriots coach was I wouldn't say anything to

1493
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 2: you guys, meaning the media, that I wouldn't say directly

1494
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:12,760
Speaker 2: to the players before I walked out here. I'm never

1495
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 2: going to message through the media. Callahan took a similar approach,

1496
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 2: even if it didn't resonate the same way from Mike

1497
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:22,800
Speaker 2: We're able to Brian Callahan, the approach was still similar there.

1498
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 2: So we don't know if this is just a last

1499
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:28,800
Speaker 2: ditch effort to try and metaphorically grab Jalen Hurts by

1500
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 2: the shoulders and shake him and say, hey, we are

1501
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 2: trying to tell you this privately. You've left us no

1502
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 2: choice but to message publicly, because I think once you

1503
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 2: start to do that, the relationship between the athlete and

1504
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 2: the organization has already a bit broken.

1505
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,680
Speaker 5: You're not wrong, you're not wrong, and I think your

1506
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:50,720
Speaker 5: context of how they talked to him, we don't know

1507
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 5: is really an interest. I hadn't really thought about that,

1508
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 5: and I think it's important here because I want to

1509
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 5: give Jalen a little bit of benefit of the doubt.

1510
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 5: A lot of people don't realize this, but if you

1511
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 5: go all the way back to his college career, he's

1512
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:06,680
Speaker 5: quite literally had eleven different primary play callers in.

1513
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 6: The last eleven years. So when we hear that he's

1514
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 6: uncoachable book, I just wonder how much of it is.

1515
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:13,559
Speaker 9: Man.

1516
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 6: Every damn year, I have a new voice, somebody new

1517
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 6: telling me what to do.

1518
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 5: And here's the thing, you're gonna be gone in a year,

1519
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 5: and I'm still gonna be here, So I'm gonna tell

1520
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:24,560
Speaker 5: you what I like, and I'm gonna do what i want.

1521
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 6: To a certain extent because I'm still going to be

1522
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:30,760
Speaker 6: here long after you are. I think there's a human

1523
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:34,560
Speaker 6: element to that. When you've literally had eleven.

1524
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 5: Different primary play callers or offensive coordinators in your last

1525
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:40,599
Speaker 5: eleven seasons going back to college, like, that's a reason

1526
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 5: most quarterbacks would be a while fail.

1527
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 6: And Jalen Hurts in that process, has won a Super Bowl, He's.

1528
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 5: Been literally voted in All Pro like, He's played well

1529
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 5: enough to get consideration from people everywhere considering the circumstance.

1530
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and certainly now with a super Bowl championship an

1531
01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 2: MVP on his resume, I'm of two minds of it

1532
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 2: because obviously I don't I'm not there in Philadelphia.

1533
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 3: I'm not covering that team.

1534
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:10,599
Speaker 2: I don't know the parties, the principal parties other than

1535
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 2: AJ Brown, And like I said, it's been four years

1536
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 2: since AJ was here, so I wouldn't pretend to know

1537
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:19,920
Speaker 2: how that circumstance has gone or even how AJ has

1538
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 2: grown and evolved as a person since he was here

1539
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 2: in Tennessee, at the onset of his career, all I

1540
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:26,519
Speaker 2: know is that AJ Brown gets painted as a diva publicly.

1541
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 2: And I'm not here to defend everything that AJ does,

1542
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:33,440
Speaker 2: because I do think that there's some level of immaturity

1543
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 2: to AJ's approach that could be curbed and could be

1544
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 2: handled just a little bit better. But I see this

1545
01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:44,720
Speaker 2: and understand the way that AJ Brown is painted and

1546
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 2: look at the Jalen.

1547
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:47,080
Speaker 3: Hurts reported behavior.

1548
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 2: Again, we have not had personal experience with this, so

1549
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 2: we're going off secondhand reporting here. But if AJ Brown

1550
01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 2: is being painted a diva and the quarterback causes as

1551
01:11:57,040 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 2: many problems, if not more problems, especially given the reporting

1552
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:03,080
Speaker 2: here about the input that he had on the final

1553
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 2: plays and the four verts of it after they just

1554
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 2: ran the concept against the Niners, and the Niners were

1555
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:10,519
Speaker 2: very quick to snuff it out just because Jalen Hurts

1556
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:13,479
Speaker 2: isn't comfortable with what's being called on the field and

1557
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:15,720
Speaker 2: the play callers trying to add some diversity to the

1558
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 2: offense that the quarterback is pushing back on. Listen, if

1559
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 2: you're a quarterback or a certain caliber, it's your right.

1560
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:23,720
Speaker 2: It's kind of a similar situation with Lamar Jackson and

1561
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:26,680
Speaker 2: Todd Munkin it sounds like based on the reporting that

1562
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:29,879
Speaker 2: was done there, But I do think that it's important

1563
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:31,720
Speaker 2: to keep the same energy if you're gonna come after

1564
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:33,519
Speaker 2: a j Brown that way, it sounds like Jalen Hurts

1565
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 2: has a little bit.

1566
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 3: Of this to his game as well.

1567
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 2: Speaking of games, we are going to play America's favorite

1568
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 2: game show, Would You Rather? On Fox Sports Radio coming

1569
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 2: up next. I'm a little nervous. We do would you Rather?

1570
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:51,559
Speaker 2: At the end of the show every day or every

1571
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 2: time we do the show, But today Jason Fitz is

1572
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:57,840
Speaker 2: on assignment for the Indoor Football League, and he's got

1573
01:12:57,840 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 2: a different kind of connection than.

1574
01:12:58,920 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 3: We normally use.

1575
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,640
Speaker 2: And if you're familiar with this particular show, you know

1576
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:06,200
Speaker 2: that we in unison attempt to announce that we are

1577
01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:07,639
Speaker 2: getting better to play would you rather?

1578
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 6: No?

1579
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 3: Yeah? It was too soon? Yeah, too soon? So well,

1580
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:13,639
Speaker 3: wouldn't be the first time for you a little premature?

1581
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 5: Are you?

1582
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:18,639
Speaker 6: Yeah? Always? Always always?

1583
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 7: That was a false start flag, by the way, false

1584
01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 7: start penalty there.

1585
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of the fine system, it is fitsy. Before

1586
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 2: we for a any further, I think it's important that

1587
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:33,799
Speaker 2: we take a moment and wish one of the fine,

1588
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:37,400
Speaker 2: upstanding members of this show. A happy birthday, even though

1589
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:43,280
Speaker 2: it was yesterday. It's Mary's birthday, Big twenty three. Happy birthday, Mary.

1590
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:44,840
Speaker 2: Are we embarrassing you?

1591
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:46,920
Speaker 3: Or we like? Are we like helicopter parents?

1592
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:49,799
Speaker 7: I said that in confidence.

1593
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:50,720
Speaker 6: That's incredible.

1594
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 3: Happy birthday, Thanks man. You said that in confidence to

1595
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:56,599
Speaker 3: your birthday? Get over it? Yeah, but like off air,

1596
01:13:57,600 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 3: you don't care.

1597
01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:02,679
Speaker 6: There's no off the record with Buck.

1598
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:07,760
Speaker 5: Most importantly, if we had been in l A and

1599
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 5: you could only invite either Buck or I to your

1600
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 5: birthday dinner, which one of us are getting the answer

1601
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:15,479
Speaker 5: that would you rather have but or I at your

1602
01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 5: birthday dinner?

1603
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 3: Wait? Wait, wait, wait wait, spin the wheel, spin the wheel.

1604
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:21,840
Speaker 3: Let's do this proper? We do you'd rather do? We

1605
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:22,640
Speaker 3: open with this?

1606
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:24,200
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1607
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:26,880
Speaker 3: This is U fun? Would you rather now it's an official?

1608
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 3: Would you wait?

1609
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 7: Would you can I just play the stageer first?

1610
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 5: Then?

1611
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:30,720
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah?

1612
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 6: Okay, sure.

1613
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 1: It's easy, guys, don't think too hard.

1614
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:37,960
Speaker 7: I'm not a moron.

1615
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:39,639
Speaker 6: Would you rather Bucket?

1616
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:40,479
Speaker 3: Touch no good?

1617
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:41,320
Speaker 1: Or fix it?

1618
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:43,439
Speaker 6: Oh?

1619
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 3: What a mess?

1620
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:50,680
Speaker 7: I hate you? Guys. We already spun the wheel, though,

1621
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 7: so we have already landed on a would you rather question?

1622
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 7: If they ready for you?

1623
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 3: Guys here you mean it's it's fixed. The wheels fixed.

1624
01:14:57,240 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 12: It's fixed. It's fixed. It's a miracle fixes in. It's spinning,

1625
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 12: spinning it all right, all right? Would you rather swim

1626
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:11,280
Speaker 12: in the ocean at night? No, damn it, a shark

1627
01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:15,719
Speaker 12: could be nearby, or spend the night in a house

1628
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 12: you believe is haunted it.

1629
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:20,599
Speaker 3: We just talked about this. This is not the first

1630
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 3: would you rather?

1631
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:24,240
Speaker 6: He is going? He is just like you know what,

1632
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:26,559
Speaker 6: I'm trying to save my back from this. There's no saving.

1633
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 7: I'm trying to sneeze us back on track right now.

1634
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 3: Were you not listening?

1635
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:33,920
Speaker 6: I can't pick?

1636
01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:34,720
Speaker 1: What the heck?

1637
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 7: That's so mean you have to pick?

1638
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:39,840
Speaker 1: Would you reel to jews between the two of you

1639
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:40,760
Speaker 1: as who?

1640
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 3: All right, it's it's important.

1641
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:46,080
Speaker 2: It's important that we establish a hierarchy on this show

1642
01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 2: right now. The best way that we can wish Mary

1643
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 2: a happy birthday is by making her deeply uncomfortable the.

1644
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:54,879
Speaker 3: Day after a birthday? Would you rather to your birthday

1645
01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 3: or me?

1646
01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:57,479
Speaker 13: If you had to pick one, like you guys, would

1647
01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:00,760
Speaker 13: both like do stuff that you guys see. But the

1648
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:02,599
Speaker 13: thing is, I feel like Buck would try to take

1649
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:04,240
Speaker 13: me to a bar, and I'm not really like a

1650
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 13: big bar girl, So I might have to go with

1651
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:08,920
Speaker 13: Fitzy because I feel like he would take me like

1652
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 13: a karaoke bar and like we just do.

1653
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:12,320
Speaker 3: Karaoke all night.

1654
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:18,519
Speaker 13: Yeah, I'm not gonna lie it might I love you Buck,

1655
01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 13: and I feel like buck Buck would get so crazy

1656
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:25,000
Speaker 13: and I think he would lose sight of like, oh,

1657
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 13: we're here for Mary's birthday, and I feel like he

1658
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 13: would start talking to like a bunch of girls in

1659
01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:33,280
Speaker 13: the club or something like whoa and would leave me alone.

1660
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 6: And I would high in the corner, enjoying all of

1661
01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:39,120
Speaker 6: the moment. I would just be high in the corner,

1662
01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:40,040
Speaker 6: enjoying the moment.

1663
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 2: That I agree this was the right choice, because you

1664
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 2: have identified the actual behavior that I would display.

1665
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:48,519
Speaker 13: If we went out for your birthday, But I would

1666
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 13: I would rather have it with both of you guys

1667
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 13: to kind of balance it out.

1668
01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 3: See no hard feelings. I get it.

1669
01:16:54,280 --> 01:17:01,400
Speaker 2: I understand it that it's been that damn wheel scared

1670
01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:03,960
Speaker 2: a conflict around here? Figure it out or family?

1671
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:06,760
Speaker 7: Dammit, do you guys want to answer the the one

1672
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 7: that I asked, or do you want a different one.

1673
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:10,639
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I'll live in I'll hang

1674
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:12,800
Speaker 6: out in the Haunted. I can't swim, so I can't

1675
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 6: do anything that.

1676
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:15,320
Speaker 5: Involves a swimming because I forgot about that, and I

1677
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:18,400
Speaker 5: actually didn't. I did live in a house that I'm

1678
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:21,719
Speaker 5: very convinced was fun. It was like very Amitaville in Nashville.

1679
01:17:21,800 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 6: Like it was like it was. It was a weird,

1680
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:26,479
Speaker 6: terrible vibe in the house. So I've gone through that.

1681
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:26,760
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1682
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:29,200
Speaker 6: But like I get in the water, I die. So yeah,

1683
01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 6: I'm in on the hanted house.

1684
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:32,679
Speaker 3: Yes, I also can't swim.

1685
01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 7: Neither neither of you can swim that.

1686
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:35,760
Speaker 6: Wow.

1687
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:37,760
Speaker 3: No, I mean I like to get in the water,

1688
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:39,120
Speaker 3: but I don't like swim.

1689
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:40,679
Speaker 7: Yeah, grow up, you guys.

1690
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:48,640
Speaker 6: We're all floaties. When we have a yata party, we

1691
01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:49,679
Speaker 6: should have a pool party.

1692
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:51,080
Speaker 11: Okay.

1693
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:53,640
Speaker 12: Would you rather have wet hands whenever you need to

1694
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:56,200
Speaker 12: shake hands with somebody or have to wear a wet

1695
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 12: pair of socks for a whole day once a week?

1696
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:01,120
Speaker 2: Oh I could I could eat the shame of the

1697
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:04,559
Speaker 2: wet sox having sweaty hands when you shake somebody's hand,

1698
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:06,160
Speaker 2: that's like every.

1699
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 7: Well, so it could be sweat It could be water.

1700
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:09,719
Speaker 3: It doesn't.

1701
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:11,240
Speaker 2: There's a lot of things it could be, but it

1702
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:15,240
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. It's it's it's just the the sliminess of

1703
01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 2: your hand. That's like every prepubescent, uh young male's nightmares.

1704
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:24,720
Speaker 2: Because you're going through hormonal changes, You're sweating all kinds

1705
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 2: of different places. Your hands are clammy and sweaty. You

1706
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:29,680
Speaker 2: gotta shake somebody's hand. They pull back away from your

1707
01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:31,840
Speaker 2: hand because it's disgusting. No, give me the sweaty socks.

1708
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 5: Guys, you're so wrong about us, because here's the thing.

1709
01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 5: The sweaty hands make everybody else uncomfortable. The wet socks

1710
01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:43,200
Speaker 5: make me uncomfortable. I don't want to be uncomfortable all day.

1711
01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 6: I don't care. Just don't shake my hand like I can.

1712
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 6: Like sorry, wet hands, Yeah, like no, that's fine. I'll

1713
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:51,479
Speaker 6: just look at to be like they're wet.

1714
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:56,400
Speaker 3: Let's get out of here. We appreciate you hanging out

1715
01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:57,800
Speaker 3: with us on Fox Sports Radio