WEBVTT - Patriots Playbook 7/26: Day 1 Training Camp Reaction 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:05.640 This is Patriots Playbook. 0:00:05.720 --> 0:00:09.160 The legend it's the first day of summa. Where the hell? 0:00:09.200 --> 0:00:12.960 What the hell happens in my sun? They ruined my sama. Look, 0:00:13.119 --> 0:00:15.080 I'm not gonna try to play amateur lawyer here. I 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:17.520 don't want to play amateur lawyer because that's when you 0:00:17.560 --> 0:00:20.279 get yourself into trouble sometimes. Today, in this day and age, 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:22.599 I don't know which end is up. I don't know 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:23.600 what I should be thinking. 0:00:23.760 --> 0:00:26.439 Really things right, I think the weather is put off, 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:27.200 things like. 0:00:27.320 --> 0:00:28.520 La is now Portland. 0:00:30.280 --> 0:00:33.080 Well, that's not what anybody wants. If you want, you know, 0:00:33.120 --> 0:00:35.200 if you want Portland to Seattle, move there. 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:39.040 Now. Here's your host of Patriots Playbook, John Rook. 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:45.159 And if you want hot, steamy, sultry summer weather, just 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:46.440 wait a while, because we didn't get that. 0:00:46.479 --> 0:00:46.839 Today. 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:49.519 It is day one of training camp here at Jiludd 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:53.880 Stadium in Foxborough. Welcome inside the Patriots Playbook. This is 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:58.440 our July monthly edition, off season edition of the podcast. 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:00.760 If you're joining us for the first time, just sampling 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:02.840 it because you happen to be stumbled here on the 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:05.399 website trying to find out information on day one of 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:09.360 training camp. We are here at least, this particular program 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:12.080 is here monthly during the offseason, and then we go 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:15.520 weekly during the regular season on Thursdays, and that will 0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:19.840 start in about five weeks, right, Matt, I think, yeah, 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:21.520 about five weeks from now we'll get that, we'll get 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:23.839 the regular season. I know, we have one more off 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:26.399 season show to get to, which we will do on 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:30.120 the last day of August, right as preseason has ended up, 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:32.479 and they'll be right about the time that the Patriots 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:35.160 will be wrapping up the final fifty three man roster. 0:01:35.640 --> 0:01:38.360 There is a long way to go between now and then. 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:44.240 What's today today is July the what twenty seventh, twenty sixth, right, Okay, 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:47.720 got it? I you know, I'm lucky if I know 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:50.040 my name on it, old guy. Yeah, I know, thank you, 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:54.520 the old guy. So so that's what thirty three days 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:58.680 or so away. There is so much to do between 0:01:58.720 --> 0:02:01.560 now and then, as I'm sure sure most everybody realizes, 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:08.720 and trying to form this football team. And today tomorrow, Friday, 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:13.399 the first three days of training camp here. You probably heard, 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:15.280 if you were with us at all during the training 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:18.240 camp coverage earlier this morning here on Patriots dot Com Radio, 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:22.200 that really the first three days are going to be 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:28.919 like glorified OTAs glorified you know, walkthroughs, because what they'll 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:32.760 be doing, and what they are doing is sort of 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:38.959 recertifying what they learned from the playbook during the spring. 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:44.960 They will get into meaningful competition next week where the 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:47.840 guys will be putting on pads or at least shells 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:50.160 to start. I think they're only allowed one or two, 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:53.240 I think two full pad practices per week, so they 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:55.760 probably won't even start ramping that up until either late 0:02:55.840 --> 0:02:59.440 next week, right, Matt, Yeah, sounds about right, doesn't it. 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:03.760 Although my hip pads on Monday, damn. All right, Well 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:08.720 that's good, okay, all right, So that's actually a good sign. 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:11.720 And we will get a chance then to see guys 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:15.760 competing for jobs, which is I know, that's what everybody 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:18.440 wants to know. Who's playing well, who's not playing well, 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:21.799 who's living up to their capabilities, who's disappointing thus far, 0:03:22.160 --> 0:03:24.640 who we expect to come into the fold, who is 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:27.280 gonna fall short? Do we want to go out and 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:30.200 you know, try to you know, scan the waiver wire 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:32.679 for other guys who can't make other teams and pick 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:34.519 them up. If we think they can fit a particular 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:37.480 need or roll here in New England. Okay, all of 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:40.200 that's going to take part, and we'll start in earnest 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:43.920 really on Monday. These first three days Okay, it's a 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:47.520 continuation really of what was learned and the things that 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:51.240 they walked through during OTAs and the spring you know, 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:54.440 mandatory practices. So that's kind of where we are. These 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:56.480 guys are going through the paces. But that doesn't mean 0:03:56.840 --> 0:03:59.320 that we don't have things to talk about today. And 0:03:59.440 --> 0:04:01.920 there are some key questions that we're going to talk 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:05.240 about today that I feel like, Look, if you're from 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:08.840 around these areas, this area, from New England, if you're 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:12.360 from you know, Boston, Providence, wherever, you know, somewhere in 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:15.440 this region, then you're probably paying attention on television or 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:17.480 radio or even on the you know, in their news 0:04:17.520 --> 0:04:20.120 sites as well as to what really the key items 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:24.120 to call to talk about are. We will approach approach 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:28.240 some of those topics here today because largely I think 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:30.600 a couple of them are worth talking about, and then 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:32.480 I think a couple of them are just damn silly. 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:35.880 They're just it's ridiculous to even think of. And I'll 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:38.479 give you a big one. Okay, the biggest one that 0:04:38.560 --> 0:04:41.800 I think that's just a silly, stupid question that most 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:44.479 of the media around here is just all, you know, 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:49.160 a flutter over. Is Bill Belichick really on the hot seat? 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:55.520 I mean really really? Now, I know, Eldred God bless 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:57.280 your son. If you're you know, listening, you know, on 0:04:57.320 --> 0:05:01.479 your deliveries in North Carolina. He has never liked to 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:06.159 build the GM. I don't blame him because clearly in 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:08.359 the last few years it just hasn't turned out the 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:10.800 way that anybody would have liked to have had it. 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:12.839 But if you're gonna ask him to do a mea 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:17.000 culpa and say, Okay, my bad, sorry, guys, I really 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:20.160 screwed up on that draft, that's never gonna happen. He 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:23.000 hasn't even done that as well, for you know, the 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:27.040 coaches that were clearly a misfit, you know, within this 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:30.640 organization a year ago. So you're never gonna get that, 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:33.919 nor should he have to do that. I'm firmly in 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:36.600 the corner, firmly in the camp of the man has 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:39.200 enough of a track record where he has earned his 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:43.039 seniority and he has earned his place, and if he 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:46.240 wants to be here. He deserves to be here. Now 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:50.120 that doesn't mean that time and time again, if he 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:53.279 falls short, he deserves to keep the job. Because this 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:59.400 is after all a business, and missed Craft, John of 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:03.000 the Craft. They certainly have reiterated that fact as well. 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:05.359 This is a business. We are in the business of 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:08.280 winning championships. We're in the business of making money. We're 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:10.720 in the business of keeping fans happy and keeping them 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:13.400 coming back to our facility. Why else do we build 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:15.440 the kind of facilities that we have here, you know, 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:18.360 in Foxborough. Why else do we compete? We compete to win. 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:20.560 We got to spend money to win. And yeah, you 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:22.680 can be critical about the Patriots because they're one of 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:25.479 the lowest spending teams in the NFL, you absolutely can. 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:29.120 I'll leave a lot of the spending stuff up to 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:32.080 our good friend Pat's cap on that one, because as 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:34.720 you guys know, you know, Miguel probably is up to 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:37.360 date and right spot on with that stuff as anybody 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:41.320 in the NFL, for any team, He's right on top 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:43.120 of it. So I kind of leave that stuff to him. 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:45.919 We deal more with, you know, the personalities and the 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:50.839 and the you know, the execution of of you know, 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:52.600 the play on the field. It's like the old you 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:55.839 know JK McKay. John McKay, you know, saying when he 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:57.560 was the coach of the Tampa Bay Bucks when the 0:06:57.600 --> 0:06:59.960 bucks Worth's expansion team in the NFL back in nineteen seventy, 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:01.680 he said, what did you think? You know, he was 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:02.839 asked by the media, what do you think of your 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:04.760 team's execution on the field? He said, I'd be in 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:10.000 favor of it. You got that, nobody else did. But 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:15.720 nowadays I'd be in favor of it. Okay, you know, 0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:18.760 I don't think we're gonna have to go that far 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:23.760 with this team. I really don't. But then again, you know, 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:28.760 if this team eight and nine a year ago, you know, 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:30.800 with a little bit you know of a different look, 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:34.120 certainly coaching wise. You know, guys that you know, you 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:36.200 can certainly argue that maybe they were a little thinner 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:38.560 than they should have been. Wanted to be in several 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:42.960 spots on this team. Okay, it didn't work out, and 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:47.240 I would tell you that well. And this year, on paper, 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:49.400 at least, it looks like the schedule is a little 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:51.560 more difficult than it was last year. I mean, let's 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:53.960 be honest with each other here, all right, So it 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:58.120 looks a little more difficult, but that doesn't matter because 0:07:58.120 --> 0:07:59.600 the bottom line is whether or not you win. And 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:02.640 Craft has already stated, you know, his goal is to 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:05.440 get into the postseason and win a game in the 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:08.440 postseason this year, and I would concur as we open 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:11.800 up training camp and start the twenty twenty three season, 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:16.000 hopefully it will continue, you know, in the postseason in 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:18.760 twenty twenty four, they have one regular season game and 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:21.960 then you'll get into the postseason thereafter. But for twenty 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:26.480 twenty three and twenty four, anything short of New England 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:29.640 making the postseason is going to be called a failure. 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:34.120 It just will. I could see a scenario where this 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:38.400 team could go ten and seven, and if they lose 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:41.840 on a tiebreaker to get into the postseason, all right, 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:44.960 at least they're back on the plus side of five hundred. 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:47.960 I could see that. But I'll still be personally disappointed. 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:50.400 I think most fans would be disappointed. We don't know 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:52.120 how that part of it's going to play out, because 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:54.800 that depends on so many other factors, largely the other 0:08:54.840 --> 0:08:57.240 teams in the AFC East and everybody else on New 0:08:57.240 --> 0:09:01.040 England schedule. That's how you determine that. I could see that. 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:05.040 I don't think that will happen. The AFC East, as 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:12.040 everybody knows, is sticked, okay, stacked, strongest division in pro football. 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:14.559 I don't think there's much doubt about it right now. 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:19.120 I could see a scenario with three of the four 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:24.320 teams in the postseason. Could definitely see that. I don't 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:27.160 know with tie breakers and such, it would even be 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:31.360 figuratively statistically possible if all four teams could get in. 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:34.920 Maybe we'll let some of our experts work on that 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:37.000 here during the show and see if that's even possible. 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:40.000 But I would tell you that I think there's a 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:42.400 great chance that as long as you finish in third 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:45.000 in the AFC East, you're probably gonna be in the 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:51.200 postseason dance somewhere. Probably. But then again, if you're let's 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:52.880 say a nine to eight team or even a ten 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:55.079 and seven team, and you're just squeezing into the postseason, 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:58.240 if you're not healthy enough to play and compete in 0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:02.640 the postseason, what good are you really doing? So my 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:06.040 major concern here, number one is we open up training camp, 0:10:07.800 --> 0:10:10.280 is what the depth gonna be like on this team 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:13.200 throughout the course of the year. I want to see 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:17.120 the guys who we can plug and play. I want 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:19.920 to see the guys who when someone goes down, who 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:23.400 steps in for the whole next man up scenario. I 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:27.360 want to know who the next men are up and 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:30.120 are they capable of doing it. This is where you 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:33.080 really find whether or not the Patriots coaching staff and 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:37.680 scouting staff have done their jobs. Say whatever you want 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:39.560 about the draft picks or you know in the last 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:42.480 few years. Clearly right now we'd have to say they 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:44.800 are trending downward. They haven't done a very good job. 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:50.080 We know this. That is certainly a valuable criticism. Okay, 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:53.720 cat argue really against that point, because the proof is 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:56.680 in the talent on the field. But this past couple 0:10:56.720 --> 0:10:58.600 of years. Last year was better than we thought, even 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:00.360 though there were a bunch of no names that people 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:07.680 laughed at, literally laughed at. This year is different. Christian Gonzales. 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:13.000 Most everybody feels like the Patriots stole in the first round, stole. 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:16.400 We're gonna find out pretty quick because I fully expect 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:20.719 Christian Gonzales to win a starting corner job. I do 0:11:20.800 --> 0:11:22.679 I expect it. I think we all feel like that 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:26.680 and that would be considered I think an upset certainly 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:29.640 a disappointment if he does not, because if he doesn't, well, 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:33.679 who the hell else is gonna I am a little surprised, 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:36.320 although legally speaking, has every right to be here. Jack 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:38.600 Jones is in the mix after his you know, off 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:41.680 season difficulties that he's had, you know, and we talked 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:44.360 about that last month after it happened, So I'm not 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:46.120 gonna get into the whole you know, Well, why did 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:49.200 Jack do what he did? Well, no, that's done. He's 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:51.960 here to practice, he's here to play. Bill obviously did 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:54.040 a good job. I thought it is opening press conference 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:56.880 yesterday to sort of diffuse that I can't speak about 0:11:56.880 --> 0:12:01.200 it because it's a legal matter. That's an he took 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:03.520 the easy out, and I don't blame him because anything 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:06.560 you do is speculation and it could be wrong. So 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:09.719 we're not gonna speculate. The fact of the matter is 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:12.560 that he's gonna be in court. Jack will be his 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:17.880 next hearing, I believe, August nineteenth. Yeah, August nineteenth, Okay, 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:20.560 and we'll just wait and see what the court say, 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:23.600 what the law says, what does attorneys say, if they're 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:26.600 even gonna you know, be prosecuting. We don't know right now. 0:12:26.640 --> 0:12:28.160 He's a member of the football team, and he's on 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:31.720 the team and he's practicing, and I fully expect him 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:33.199 to compete for a corner slot. 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:33.560 I do. 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:38.440 Now, we still have the NFL to decide whether another 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:42.160 there's any suspension or anything warranted in that particular realm. Okay, 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:47.199 that's fine, but well we'll just we'll tackle that when 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:52.320 we get to it. So you know, I've started defense, 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:54.600 even though I told some guys on a main radio 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:57.640 station this morning that you know, the three areas that 0:12:57.679 --> 0:13:00.200 I'm going to be looking at is practices, underwear on 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:02.920 the offensive side of the ball. You know, I want 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:05.920 to see if Trent Brown remembers how to block somebody. 0:13:07.000 --> 0:13:10.800 I want to see, you know, who emerges at wide 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:15.280 receiver because I know that there are a lot of 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:17.520 disappointed people, and I'll throw my hand in the mix. 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:21.520 I'm disappointed they didn't get DeAndre Hopkins. I don't know 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:25.680 if he would be a quote unquote cultural fit, but 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:27.760 I'm still disappointed because I don't think he can have 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:30.719 enough toys. You know, when I was a kid, I 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:33.640 didn't have enough toys in my toy chest never did. 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:38.680 Maybe stronger, maybe tougher, Okay, but he who has the 0:13:38.720 --> 0:13:43.120 most toys at the end wins. And that speaks directly 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:48.079 to the depth. And so that's what I'm really clued 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:50.840 in on. I want to see how this team begins 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:55.920 to build depth. Trent starts on the offensive line. We 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:58.439 need to make sure mac Jones has his backside protected. 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:01.640 I want to see, you know, which receivers emerge. You know, 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:03.920 can Taekwon Thornton actually live up to some of the 0:14:03.960 --> 0:14:06.280 hype from a year ago because he was a speedster 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:08.080 coming out of Baylor and then all of a sudden, 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:12.199 bang he gets hurt. You know, That's that's a big 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:15.080 spot for me. What do they do about running back 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:17.160 to the depth? Do they have enough running back the depth? 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:20.160 I know Time Montgomery started out today, you know, he 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:23.880 spent last year on injured reserve. Thy Montgomery started out 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:27.600 today working out with the wide receivers, and I thought 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:29.520 he'd be a prime candidate to be, you know, the 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:34.760 third down back. We'll see Pierre Strong He'll also be 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:37.040 a candidate for third down back. So there are a 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:39.560 lot of things that need to play out. I think 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:45.000 that there are going to be some things over these 0:14:45.000 --> 0:14:48.680 first three days that will cause us to be curious. 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:54.640 Didn't really see a lot today myself, Okay, didn't really 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:56.920 see a lot today other than I noticed Thime Montgomery 0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:58.560 was actually, you know, working out with the white with 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:01.240 the white outs today. Other than that, I didn't see 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:02.960 a whole lot different than I thought was out of 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:04.640 place or a little bit unusual or it caused me 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:10.040 to go hmm. So again, this is more of a 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:13.360 continuation of what happened to the OTAs. So what we're 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:14.880 gonna do here on the show, and I want you 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:17.240 to know the phone lines are open and available to 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:20.120 you because I know you have questions, and we have 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:23.600 our own panel of experts here who have studied very 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:26.360 hard over the last couple of days, especially on this 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:28.280 team that we're going to share. Let you share their 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:31.240 your opinions with them, and their opinions with you. So 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:34.440 I want this really to be interactive today. 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So those 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:09.680 are the ways that you can converse with the show. 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:11.640 Those of you who have been a part of the 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:13.960 show for the last seven or eight years. In July, 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:17.760 know that at this time of year, I also am 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:21.520 conducting which coincides with the start of Patriot Training Camp. 0:16:21.520 --> 0:16:26.000 I also conduct a summer sports broadcasting you know camp, 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:27.400 if you will. For lack of a better phrase, it 0:16:27.400 --> 0:16:29.840 sounds like and everybody's coming to camp with their backpacks 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:32.320 and bringing their sack launches, and not quite like that, 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:34.840 because I actually I put these I put these young 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:39.160 people to work. These are all aspiring sports broadcasters. They're 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:42.320 either juniors or seniors in high school one or the other. 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:45.560 So they're all getting ready to embark upon their own careers. 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:48.320 And yeah, when I tell you there are sports nuts, 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:50.760 there are sports fanatics. I ain't lying. 0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:53.040 Ain't lying. 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:55.400 You're gonna meet three of them. Now we've got another 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:57.560 four who are waiting on Team two who will join 0:16:57.640 --> 0:17:00.320 us an hour number two of the program today. But 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:02.040 you know, first things first, I want to make sure 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:04.439 that I introduce the guys to you today because we 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:07.320 have some questions that we're actually going to get to 0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:10.880 and these guys have been doing their their their study 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:15.479 and like them, I want you to contribute your thoughts 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:18.720 on the questions that we're posing to you know, our panelists, 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:22.120 our reporters today, if you will, first and foremost Patriots fans, 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:24.960 if you want to see Toyota's best offers, including those 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:28.880 not seen on TV, go to buy a Toyota dot com. 0:17:29.080 --> 0:17:32.240 It's Toyota's official website for deals from the official vehicle 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:36.280 of the New England Patriots, Toyota. Let's go places, all right, 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:42.120 Patriots Playbook preseason Camp Day number one. All right, I'm 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:45.640 going to introduce to you Etelina Auben. She is a 0:17:45.880 --> 0:17:49.840 junior from Win Soccer or you live outside of Win Soccer. 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:52.800 You live? Oh, so you are from Rnthom You just 0:17:52.800 --> 0:17:55.520 go to school one socer, yeah, Nount Saint Cherile, okay, 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:57.840 all right, and you're an athlete, right, yes, Okay, what 0:17:57.840 --> 0:17:58.280 do you play? 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:01.040 Well, I dance for my school team and I'm also 0:18:01.040 --> 0:18:01.720 on the basketball team. 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:04.840 Shoot hoop too, right yep? Multi dimensional? Oh yeah, please 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:09.159 tell me, okay, please tell me why in particular you 0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:10.480 want to be a sports broadcaster. 0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:14.280 So basically, my dad brought me into it. 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:18.800 Man, she just it took her all of fifteen seconds. 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:20.200 She just ran you right under the bus. 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:20.640 Good. 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:23.000 He put me into it, and he was we were 0:18:23.040 --> 0:18:24.800 looking at colleges and he kind of just got me 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:26.399 into it. And I was like, you know what, I 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:29.200 like sports, and I was like, I like talking to people. 0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:31.960 I like getting out there and getting my thoughts out. 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:33.840 So I was like, you know, maybe this would be 0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:36.879 a great career idea for me. So I looked for 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:39.280 the camp and I found it, and so far I'm 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:40.160 enjoying it very well. 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:42.880 Okay, I appreciate that, and thank you for your time 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:44.520 and your effort this week. It's been good thus far. 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:45.159 Thank you. 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:47.800 Nathan Courier. I know you like to go by Nate, 0:18:48.400 --> 0:18:49.680 but Nathan, you're from New. 0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:51.960 Hampshire, right, conquered to be exactly. 0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:55.359 Conquered, all right, and you're a hockey you know, Krishna right, yep? 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:58.840 Hockey is the main sport for me. I do. 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:07.040 I'm involved with lacrosse, baseball, softball, and might start getting 0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:09.920 into basketball. But hockey is the main sport that. 0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:12.879 I didn't hear football there anywhere? Did you guys hear football? 0:19:13.000 --> 0:19:16.080 I do not do any broadcasting for football. 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:18.400 But you're starting today. 0:19:18.560 --> 0:19:22.000 Yes, I am starting today. I've been starting this week actually, okay, 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:22.400 all right. 0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:23.800 So that's good to know. All right, So we don't 0:19:23.800 --> 0:19:24.840 have any dummies. 0:19:24.520 --> 0:19:27.879 Here, not at all? Okay, football fan, I never I 0:19:28.000 --> 0:19:28.239 like it. 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:31.480 Never announced got another out of stater with us today, 0:19:31.680 --> 0:19:35.640 Mario Bettingfield. Mario, I'm sorry to say this. Gang. He's 0:19:35.640 --> 0:19:36.600 a Tennessee Titan. 0:19:38.000 --> 0:19:43.840 Mm yeah, twenty eighteen felt good, but hey, the franchise. 0:19:45.000 --> 0:19:46.800 I was just looking up for the Titans. But the 0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:49.600 Patriots got some good, some special going on here too. 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:52.639 You live in Nashville then, right, yes, okay, all right? Cool? 0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:56.359 And you are a junior or senior? Al right, so 0:19:56.400 --> 0:19:57.719 you're considering colleges, right? 0:19:57.800 --> 0:19:58.119 Yes? 0:19:58.200 --> 0:19:59.440 What what sports do you? Really? 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:00.040 What? 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:01.480 What floats your boat? Mario? 0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:05.400 About everything? Honestly? But if I had to choose, want 0:20:05.480 --> 0:20:08.440 to be football. My primary love since I was a kid. 0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:12.119 Used to go to Tennessee State University games with the 0:20:12.160 --> 0:20:17.840 Tigers or Titans games. Huge Saints fan as well, and 0:20:18.080 --> 0:20:20.560 just been reading about football history for forever. 0:20:20.640 --> 0:20:21.800 Are you big into the Titans? 0:20:22.320 --> 0:20:27.960 I it's a complicated relationship, but I try to stay 0:20:27.960 --> 0:20:28.840 on the stafe side though. 0:20:29.320 --> 0:20:31.960 Okay, that's fair. Well, you know you're your head coach 0:20:32.000 --> 0:20:33.920 is actually a joint of the Patriots Hall of Fame 0:20:33.920 --> 0:20:37.000 this year, right, Yeah, like Rabel, how do you feel 0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:37.399 about that? 0:20:38.000 --> 0:20:41.560 Oh? Rabel, he's had a he's had he had an 0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:45.040 amazing career with the Patriots. Honestly, he has more touchdowns 0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:49.000 than the whole receiving core for the Titans of twenty two. Yep, right, 0:20:49.359 --> 0:20:53.359 So I mean, Rabel, he cretriut a lot to that 0:20:53.480 --> 0:20:59.680 defense with Tylaw and Teddy Bruski. 0:21:00.440 --> 0:21:03.840 Willie McGinnis back in the day, probably before you were born, 0:21:03.960 --> 0:21:07.399 right early two thousands, when we were born. You were 0:21:07.400 --> 0:21:09.200 born five. Let's see, that's what I mean. 0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:11.120 But let me say my knowledge is older than that. 0:21:11.640 --> 0:21:14.399 I listen, and you have you have actually shown that 0:21:14.480 --> 0:21:17.240 off this week. I mean, guys, on my wrong first 0:21:17.320 --> 0:21:19.240 day of Classic him and he blew us all away. 0:21:19.320 --> 0:21:21.600 Oh my facts Oh my gosh. 0:21:21.960 --> 0:21:24.600 You can ask him anything and he knows it. 0:21:24.760 --> 0:21:25.560 That's what I love about it. 0:21:25.680 --> 0:21:27.480 We were sitting at lunch yesterday and I think we 0:21:27.560 --> 0:21:30.760 asked him the World Series, the World Series of nineteen 0:21:30.880 --> 0:21:33.159 eighty two, and he he knew exactly who it was. 0:21:34.119 --> 0:21:35.480 Is your memory encyclopedic? 0:21:35.720 --> 0:21:38.200 My memory is a cyclopede. I won't say, is Bob 0:21:38.280 --> 0:21:39.600 Costs is by my own team? 0:21:40.040 --> 0:21:40.399 Nice? 0:21:40.760 --> 0:21:43.680 I think it's in there. It's nice. It's deep in there. 0:21:43.720 --> 0:21:46.800 But he knows his sports facts, so so any fans 0:21:46.800 --> 0:21:48.800 of any sport, you can pretty much ask him a 0:21:48.880 --> 0:21:51.040 lot of common questions and he's got something there. 0:21:51.080 --> 0:21:54.480 All right, let's write down the name Mario bedding Field, right, Yeah, 0:21:54.480 --> 0:21:56.560 I can remember. I want to remember, all right. I 0:21:56.640 --> 0:21:58.159 like that. We're gonna put you on the We'll put 0:21:58.200 --> 0:22:00.680 you on the other spot here, all right. We have questions. 0:22:01.040 --> 0:22:02.960 We have questions that we're going to ask here as 0:22:02.960 --> 0:22:06.080 a show, and our first team are opening hour. These 0:22:06.080 --> 0:22:08.920 guys are going to attack these questions amongst the other items. 0:22:09.160 --> 0:22:11.840 Our our number two team that will be on will 0:22:11.880 --> 0:22:14.399 also consider the same questions. So this will give you 0:22:14.480 --> 0:22:17.240 plenty of time wherever you're listening to consider them for 0:22:17.280 --> 0:22:20.480 yourselves and join the conversation. I want you to engage 0:22:20.920 --> 0:22:23.440 our young people because they work really really hard and 0:22:23.560 --> 0:22:26.920 trying to formulate their own opinions and research why they 0:22:26.960 --> 0:22:30.199 feel the way that they do in these particular issues 0:22:30.200 --> 0:22:32.000 that we're going to be talking about. Because quite frankly, 0:22:33.240 --> 0:22:36.040 I kind of took a look at what our own 0:22:36.080 --> 0:22:39.560 media is talking about, what the NFL has thought about, Like, 0:22:39.600 --> 0:22:41.880 if you're, you know, a frequenter of NFL dot com, 0:22:41.920 --> 0:22:45.440 what are they saying about New England on the national websites, 0:22:45.480 --> 0:22:48.800 on the football websites, and what are our issues? And 0:22:48.800 --> 0:22:50.960 I've already talked about one, so I'm going to start 0:22:51.000 --> 0:22:53.159 with that one that we talked about in the opening 0:22:53.240 --> 0:22:55.800 moments of the show here. And the fact is is 0:22:55.840 --> 0:22:59.800 that Bill Belichick should not, I repeat, should not be 0:23:00.080 --> 0:23:02.399 on the hot seat. I don't think you should be. 0:23:03.160 --> 0:23:05.960 I've been as critical of coach, you know, Bill Belichick, 0:23:06.840 --> 0:23:09.680 I call him BBI, you know both, you know in 0:23:09.680 --> 0:23:12.760 print and you know, certainly here on the show, But 0:23:12.920 --> 0:23:23.360 not disrespectfully, I think that coach has certainly earned his stripes. 0:23:24.480 --> 0:23:26.879 Anytime you've got you know, eight rings to your credit, 0:23:27.040 --> 0:23:30.080 six of them here in New England. You clearly know 0:23:30.200 --> 0:23:35.080 what you're doing. Now, does that excuse his performance over 0:23:35.080 --> 0:23:38.600 the last two or three years. No, because, after all, 0:23:38.600 --> 0:23:40.240 what I said at the top of the program today 0:23:40.359 --> 0:23:44.440 is no, this is a business. We understand it is 0:23:44.480 --> 0:23:48.280 a business. So because it is a business, you're expected 0:23:48.320 --> 0:23:52.359 to perform. Look, if we're players and we fall short 0:23:52.400 --> 0:23:57.639 of it, what happens to us? We get cut? Right, Okay, 0:23:58.080 --> 0:24:01.240 Now the coach has a contract. I think he's allowed, 0:24:02.000 --> 0:24:05.920 you know, a chance to let's just say, rebuild, maybe 0:24:05.920 --> 0:24:08.600 a little interregnum, you know, a little you know, a 0:24:08.600 --> 0:24:11.720 little down period before things come back up. And I 0:24:11.720 --> 0:24:14.560 think most fans expect that this year would be the year, 0:24:14.680 --> 0:24:17.600 especially because you know, they have people like you know, 0:24:17.720 --> 0:24:20.400 Bill O'Brien to come in and actually run the offense 0:24:20.440 --> 0:24:21.960 and coach it up. And they've got a couple of 0:24:22.000 --> 0:24:24.720 new receivers, and they got more depth on the offensive line, 0:24:24.720 --> 0:24:26.960 and maybe they've got more health at running back, and 0:24:27.000 --> 0:24:29.120 maybe they got a couple of other targets at tight end. 0:24:29.400 --> 0:24:31.639 You know that they can actually use to their advantage 0:24:31.680 --> 0:24:35.520 this year. So it to me, I think the Patriots 0:24:35.800 --> 0:24:37.600 are actually going to be a little bit better than 0:24:37.640 --> 0:24:41.159 some expect them to be on offense. Coach Belichick is 0:24:41.200 --> 0:24:42.760 the one that had to put all this in place. 0:24:43.200 --> 0:24:46.520 But if this team falls flat, and I know Vegas, 0:24:46.600 --> 0:24:48.680 Las Vegas has the over under, it's seven and a 0:24:48.720 --> 0:24:52.679 half for these guys in terms of wins for next year. WHOA, Now, 0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:53.520 I think that's low. 0:24:54.600 --> 0:24:55.080 I agree. 0:24:55.160 --> 0:24:59.879 I think that's an easy, absolute easy over for me, 0:25:01.200 --> 0:25:04.199 despite the fact that the AFC East is going to be, 0:25:04.320 --> 0:25:07.960 I believe, the toughest division in which to compete in 0:25:08.000 --> 0:25:10.959 the NFL this year. So what are you guys thoughts 0:25:11.040 --> 0:25:13.880 on Bill Belichick and the fact that our media here 0:25:13.880 --> 0:25:16.720 in New England has really put him on the hot seat. 0:25:17.160 --> 0:25:21.560 Is it deserving and why? Or is it not deserving 0:25:22.359 --> 0:25:24.600 and why? And that's the first question really to what 0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:26.640 I think of you guys who are listening today, Whether 0:25:26.680 --> 0:25:28.600 you're on the pod, you know you certainly send me 0:25:28.640 --> 0:25:30.520 an email or send me a tweet, or if you're 0:25:30.560 --> 0:25:33.240 listening live eight five to five PATS five hundred is 0:25:33.240 --> 0:25:35.359 the toll free number you want to join the conversation. 0:25:35.480 --> 0:25:38.000 Quite frankly, I think it's a bunch of bunk who 0:25:38.000 --> 0:25:39.200 wants to start with that one? 0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:43.000 Ill i''m gonna go right on that. I don't think 0:25:43.040 --> 0:25:46.240 he's anywhere near that hot seat. I mean, in the 0:25:46.280 --> 0:25:49.280 past twenty two years, bringing the Pats to the postseason 0:25:49.359 --> 0:25:54.720 nine times, winning six, I mean, the battles have been incredible. 0:25:55.400 --> 0:25:59.240 We can go back to twenty twenty, twenty twenty one season. 0:26:01.320 --> 0:26:07.040 Made an entrance, and then twenty one twenty two. 0:26:08.280 --> 0:26:09.200 Wasn't There. 0:26:10.640 --> 0:26:13.080 Wasn't really there for anybody that you're coming out of 0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:13.920 the pandemic. 0:26:13.960 --> 0:26:16.399 No, no, that that that you can't really compare that 0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:19.800 to anything. Twenty one twenty two, I mean the tenant 0:26:19.880 --> 0:26:22.760 seven was was a good season for for a COVID year. 0:26:23.119 --> 0:26:25.359 And then let's just talk about last season. Last season 0:26:25.680 --> 0:26:25.960 might have. 0:26:25.960 --> 0:26:29.359 Been we were injury prone, we had some problems. But 0:26:29.880 --> 0:26:33.000 I think there there might there might be some complications 0:26:33.000 --> 0:26:36.119 between being a GM and the head coach in the 0:26:36.119 --> 0:26:40.360 same realm. But I think he shouldn't like like you said, 0:26:40.400 --> 0:26:42.879 the media should not be not even be talking about that. 0:26:42.880 --> 0:26:46.480 That's not our big concern right now. I think Bill 0:26:46.480 --> 0:26:48.920 Belichick has done an amazing job as head coach here. 0:26:49.680 --> 0:26:58.280 He's coaches seemed well. I guess, I guess there's been complications. 0:26:58.280 --> 0:27:00.800 Like you said, you have to perform. If you're not perform, 0:27:00.800 --> 0:27:02.919 you're gonna go. I mean, you have a job to do. 0:27:03.960 --> 0:27:06.720 He really should, I think, hold himself to that standard. 0:27:07.480 --> 0:27:10.600 I think there are some here that follow this team 0:27:10.640 --> 0:27:13.200 fairly closely. I think there are some here that are like, Okay, 0:27:13.359 --> 0:27:15.600 he's just hanging on until he can pass Don Shula's 0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:18.760 record and become the winningest coach of all time. I've 0:27:18.880 --> 0:27:23.800 always believed from day one. I've always believed that he 0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:26.120 wants that record. 0:27:26.760 --> 0:27:27.240 I know he. 0:27:27.200 --> 0:27:31.359 Doesn't really show his ego. He's actually, you know, pretty 0:27:31.400 --> 0:27:33.919 self serving, but I think, deep down, I think he 0:27:34.000 --> 0:27:37.440 realizes the magnitude of what it would mean to pass 0:27:37.440 --> 0:27:41.560 shoeless three forty seven. And that's, you know, by the way, 0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:44.000 you know what something silly? 0:27:44.119 --> 0:27:44.280 You know? 0:27:44.359 --> 0:27:46.720 Don Shula had that. You guys know of the shoelas steakhouses. 0:27:46.760 --> 0:27:48.680 You ever see those? I don't know if you're old 0:27:48.760 --> 0:27:51.719 enough to remember, probably, I think, okay, probably not Shula's had. 0:27:51.800 --> 0:27:54.040 He had steakhouses all over the country right now. They 0:27:54.040 --> 0:27:57.119 were called shoeless three forty seven. I never knew that 0:27:57.119 --> 0:27:58.879 the three forty seven stood for how many wins he 0:27:58.920 --> 0:28:01.560 had in the NFL. Is that, But that's what the 0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:04.199 Steakhousers recalled shoeless three forty seven, Like, why do they 0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:07.159 call it three four to seven? It's because that's how 0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:09.840 many games you won in the NFL. Stupid. Okay, thank 0:28:09.880 --> 0:28:14.320 you very much. I just killed myself. Just rollep roll 0:28:14.359 --> 0:28:17.119 the bus back over me. All right, go ahead, I'm sorry, Elliott. 0:28:17.359 --> 0:28:19.159 What are your what are your thoughts on whether or 0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:21.960 not you think he's on the hot seat. 0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:26.359 I really like some people might not agree with me. 0:28:26.760 --> 0:28:29.080 I think he's definitely sitting on a warmer seat this season, 0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:32.840 and he's been there since like twenty nineteen, since Bretty departed, 0:28:33.240 --> 0:28:35.440 and I think it's it. I don't think it's necessarily 0:28:35.600 --> 0:28:38.720 because of how bad or how good. 0:28:38.520 --> 0:28:39.160 The team's done. 0:28:39.240 --> 0:28:41.920 I think it's he lost a lot of great players 0:28:42.240 --> 0:28:44.720 and he's trying to build back up the team's chemistry, 0:28:44.880 --> 0:28:48.000 chemistry with the rookies and the veterans coming back, So 0:28:48.120 --> 0:28:51.000 it's hard going into a season and then divisions and 0:28:51.560 --> 0:28:54.560 postseason is really up close too, so it's definitely hard 0:28:54.600 --> 0:28:56.320 to bring that chemistry up together. 0:28:56.400 --> 0:28:59.840 Yeah, got you. You know you are one hundred percent 0:29:00.280 --> 0:29:03.040 that his seat is warmer, And I think that's just 0:29:03.800 --> 0:29:06.560 that's just a byproduct of not making the playoffs and 0:29:06.560 --> 0:29:08.960 not having won a game in four or five years. 0:29:09.120 --> 0:29:11.760 So yeah, I mean sure, Patriots fans have a tendency 0:29:11.800 --> 0:29:14.239 to get anantsy. Patriots fans have a tendency to think, well, 0:29:14.280 --> 0:29:18.400 the playoffs, that's our domain. Fans here are spoiled. You know, 0:29:18.480 --> 0:29:22.160 you're fan grown up with them. The Patriots have been 0:29:22.200 --> 0:29:25.960 good your entire life, so you've known nothing else, So like, 0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:28.600 what the heck is going on here? If they don't 0:29:28.640 --> 0:29:31.080 make the postseason, you know, because we're too used to 0:29:31.080 --> 0:29:33.240 it around here, and I think you know this is 0:29:33.560 --> 0:29:35.480 this is where it requires a little bit of perspective. 0:29:35.760 --> 0:29:39.040 When I first started with the team, my first full 0:29:39.080 --> 0:29:42.720 time year with the team was not as their stadium voice, 0:29:43.240 --> 0:29:46.720 but it was I was I was the sports guy 0:29:46.880 --> 0:29:50.240 at the Channel twelve in Providence, and I did Rod 0:29:50.360 --> 0:29:53.280 Rust's television show. He was the coach back in nineteen 0:29:53.360 --> 0:29:56.160 ninety and the team was one in fifteen. 0:29:56.400 --> 0:29:58.120 It didn't he didn't last that long, by the way. 0:29:58.160 --> 0:30:01.280 No, he was one year at least one years. 0:30:00.920 --> 0:30:01.840 The whole franchise, though. 0:30:02.000 --> 0:30:04.360 Well yeah, and it was that way, Yeah, Mario was 0:30:04.400 --> 0:30:07.479 that way. They struggled for years. They you know, they 0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:09.719 they broke through. They got to the super Bowl. They 0:30:09.720 --> 0:30:12.239 got the Super Bowl twenty right, they got steamrolled by 0:30:12.240 --> 0:30:14.120 the Fridge and the Bears, which I'm sure you know, 0:30:14.360 --> 0:30:15.960 I know you don't remember, but I know you know 0:30:16.040 --> 0:30:18.840 about Okay, and then we got back in the super Bowl, 0:30:18.880 --> 0:30:21.600 and I say we the collective, we here back into 0:30:21.640 --> 0:30:24.000 the Super Bowl in ninety five. Played the Packers lost, 0:30:24.320 --> 0:30:26.960 but that was already after Bill Parcells had come in, 0:30:27.000 --> 0:30:29.320 and of course then as people know, it blew up then. 0:30:29.360 --> 0:30:33.880 But that ultimately led the Patriots to bringing in at 0:30:33.880 --> 0:30:35.560 the time it was Pete Carroll and then bringing in 0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:38.320 Bill Belichick and building the franchise to the point where 0:30:38.360 --> 0:30:39.040 it is today. 0:30:40.640 --> 0:30:41.960 Yeah, I think. 0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:44.680 Like where he's going right now, how it looks he's 0:30:44.800 --> 0:30:46.840 losing a little bit of respect from younger players that 0:30:46.880 --> 0:30:51.440 they're coming in. Yeah, and I think he needs to 0:30:51.480 --> 0:30:54.640 win the playoffs in this year's division or because he's 0:30:54.640 --> 0:30:57.320 just going to keep losing or disrespect from and disrespect 0:30:57.360 --> 0:30:58.200 from all these players. 0:30:58.280 --> 0:31:00.800 Well, I think I think that's a good point because 0:31:01.400 --> 0:31:05.120 to that end, there are those that believe that New 0:31:05.160 --> 0:31:10.680 England is no longer a destination for free agents. Yeah, 0:31:10.720 --> 0:31:13.920 and so free agents are like, well, I don't necessarily 0:31:13.960 --> 0:31:15.440 want to go to New England because I'm not sure 0:31:15.440 --> 0:31:17.760 they're going to be able to win. And I think 0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:20.200 that was maybe even a consideration for DeAndre Hopkins in 0:31:20.240 --> 0:31:22.760 the last couple of weeks when he ultimately decided on 0:31:22.800 --> 0:31:26.400 your Titans there Mario so okay, which is okay, that's fine. 0:31:27.160 --> 0:31:29.960 But I think there's still enough respect there for for 0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:33.959 coach Belichick where you know me Juju Smith Schuster has 0:31:33.960 --> 0:31:37.280 said that already. Mike Gisicki has said that some of 0:31:37.280 --> 0:31:40.120 these guys that have come in from other organizations this 0:31:40.200 --> 0:31:43.000 year their first time Patriots this year, they've kind of 0:31:43.240 --> 0:31:47.080 talked a little about that. So all right, but how 0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:50.360 much more has to happen for that to completely wear out? 0:31:51.080 --> 0:31:54.160 And I think we're at that almost that breaking point. 0:31:55.040 --> 0:31:57.720 We're almost there at that breaking point where it's like, okay, 0:31:57.760 --> 0:31:59.880 so his street cred just isn't going to be what 0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:01.760 it used to be because. 0:32:01.480 --> 0:32:05.480 He definitely go on like four years now of not 0:32:05.600 --> 0:32:06.840 great season, right, and. 0:32:06.800 --> 0:32:10.040 So there are people and rightfully so questioning I'm not 0:32:10.080 --> 0:32:13.080 saying we can't question it. I questioned it every day 0:32:13.120 --> 0:32:16.160 when we do this show. Okay, and and listeners to 0:32:16.200 --> 0:32:18.600 this show understand that we talk about that. We you know, 0:32:18.680 --> 0:32:21.480 talk about that with you know, other members of the medium, 0:32:21.720 --> 0:32:25.560 primarily on the show, other members of other organizations and teams, 0:32:26.280 --> 0:32:28.120 so we you know that we bring them into the show, 0:32:28.160 --> 0:32:30.800 you know, when the Patriots are preparing for them, you know, 0:32:31.200 --> 0:32:34.480 the Jets, the Bills, the Dolphins, and the Division. You know, 0:32:34.560 --> 0:32:36.840 during the course of the regular season, we'll have you know, 0:32:37.280 --> 0:32:40.240 media people and broadcasters and writers from all the teams 0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:42.960 around the NFL as the Patriots prepare to play them. 0:32:43.000 --> 0:32:45.840 They'll be a part of this show. And so the 0:32:45.920 --> 0:32:49.160 perspective is different. They all feel like, well, we can 0:32:49.200 --> 0:32:51.320 knock the Patriots off now, and we've been doing it 0:32:51.360 --> 0:32:54.560 for three years. How do the Patriots get back to 0:32:54.600 --> 0:32:57.920 that point of almost invincibility? I see where I kind 0:32:57.920 --> 0:33:02.480 of did that. Okay, So at any rate, do they 0:33:03.000 --> 0:33:05.440 really put Coach Belichick's feet to the fire on this? 0:33:05.600 --> 0:33:07.800 Should we put his feet to the fire? Mario? Is 0:33:07.840 --> 0:33:08.760 he on the hot seat? 0:33:09.120 --> 0:33:11.680 I think he is on a hot seat, actually, I 0:33:11.720 --> 0:33:16.160 think because if you take a look back at two 0:33:16.160 --> 0:33:19.800 stretches in franchise history, the only fan the only rains 0:33:19.840 --> 0:33:28.840 where Craft was under management with Carol and Carol and Parcels. Right, yep, 0:33:29.000 --> 0:33:32.520 So Parcels and Carol both had four to five year stretches, right. 0:33:33.760 --> 0:33:36.120 Carol got fired on an eight on a five hundred 0:33:36.120 --> 0:33:39.840 season and Parcells got fired on a good season where 0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:41.000 he led him to the super Bowl. 0:33:42.040 --> 0:33:44.080 And yeah, and a lot of that is simply because 0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:46.400 you know, he had yeah, and he had a foot 0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:48.360 out the door with the whole Jets thing, which is 0:33:48.400 --> 0:33:50.720 why so many people are poed at him anyway, and 0:33:50.760 --> 0:33:52.680 why he hasn't gotten into the Patriots Hall of Fame 0:33:52.720 --> 0:33:55.160 in my own opinion, because there's still too many people, 0:33:55.240 --> 0:33:59.400 too many fans who you know, hate him for, you know, 0:33:59.480 --> 0:34:02.880 running off for the Jets. And I make this case 0:34:02.920 --> 0:34:05.280 every here. I'm on the Patriots Hall of Fame nominating committee, 0:34:05.320 --> 0:34:08.400 and I'm proud to be on that because only because 0:34:08.400 --> 0:34:09.960 I'm old and been around for a long time. But 0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:12.279 that's part of it, and part of the argument is 0:34:12.280 --> 0:34:13.680 and a lot of the guys in the media say 0:34:13.680 --> 0:34:16.200 that about Bill Parcells. Of that, Look, if we don't 0:34:16.200 --> 0:34:20.160 have Bill Parcells, we don't have the Patriots today. We 0:34:20.200 --> 0:34:22.160 don't probably have the Hall of Fame, we don't have 0:34:22.320 --> 0:34:26.680 a lot today. He started that mindset. He changed the 0:34:26.680 --> 0:34:30.200 way the Patriots not only were perceived by others outside 0:34:30.200 --> 0:34:33.040 of the organization, but he changed us internally. Did he 0:34:33.239 --> 0:34:37.279 leave on unfriendly terms? Yep, he sure did, There's no 0:34:37.320 --> 0:34:41.000 doubt about it. But for the Patriots fans that think, oh, 0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:42.480 he should never be in because of what he did 0:34:42.560 --> 0:34:48.160 to us, get over it. Get over it. If we 0:34:48.200 --> 0:34:51.680 don't have coach Parcells at the time, there's a lot 0:34:51.719 --> 0:34:53.960 that we don't have right now. I would tell you 0:34:54.000 --> 0:34:55.799 that if we don't have Parcels, we might not have 0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:59.000 had Belichick because you know, they were attached at the 0:34:59.080 --> 0:34:59.680 hip at that time. 0:34:59.760 --> 0:35:01.480 Right, Yeah, So. 0:35:01.440 --> 0:35:03.000 Anyway, all right, I got off on the tangent there, 0:35:03.000 --> 0:35:04.439 which is what we do a lot of on this show. 0:35:04.440 --> 0:35:06.560 But the fact of the matter is is that I 0:35:06.600 --> 0:35:10.040 would tend to agree with you. I understand where you know, 0:35:10.239 --> 0:35:14.439 the the sense of urgency really kind of is right. 0:35:14.520 --> 0:35:18.920 I mean, there is if the Patriots go seven to ten, 0:35:19.040 --> 0:35:23.920 eight and nine this year, all bets are off, all 0:35:24.080 --> 0:35:24.959 all bets are off. 0:35:25.120 --> 0:35:27.120 Okay, it's as choice at that point. 0:35:27.320 --> 0:35:29.719 Well, sure it is. And I think maybe you know look, 0:35:29.719 --> 0:35:34.520 he's nineteen wins away from, you know, surpassing Shula. I 0:35:34.560 --> 0:35:36.640 don't think you're gonna get it this year. He could 0:35:36.680 --> 0:35:39.799 certainly get it next year. So I think even Bill 0:35:39.880 --> 0:35:43.960 knows if that's really important to him. And I believe, 0:35:44.040 --> 0:35:46.640 for a long time, my personal belief, I don't have 0:35:46.760 --> 0:35:49.200 the inside knowledge of this, My person belief is that, yeah, 0:35:49.200 --> 0:35:52.160 that matters, especially when coach Schuli before he passed away, 0:35:52.200 --> 0:35:55.600 dissed him and called him Belichiet. You guys probably even 0:35:55.600 --> 0:36:01.440 remember that yourselves. So I think that's stuff. I think 0:36:01.520 --> 0:36:04.279 that hurt. I think all he wanted was to be 0:36:04.320 --> 0:36:07.880 respected by someone like Don Shula, and he didn't do 0:36:07.960 --> 0:36:11.000 that because the Patriots obviously had all these controversial things 0:36:11.040 --> 0:36:13.000 that they you know, went through, you know, in the 0:36:13.040 --> 0:36:16.359 last ten years or so. And I think that hurt. 0:36:16.360 --> 0:36:18.520 And so I think he's like, well, you know, the 0:36:18.600 --> 0:36:20.279 only way that you can shut people up is by 0:36:20.400 --> 0:36:25.040 you know, you know, scoreboard, right, how many did you win? 0:36:25.120 --> 0:36:25.279 Three? 0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:28.440 Forty eight? Scoreboard? Okay, did you win the game? 0:36:28.560 --> 0:36:28.759 Yep? 0:36:28.800 --> 0:36:31.279 Scoreboard doesn't matter how you get there. The only thing 0:36:31.280 --> 0:36:32.799 that people remember, they don't remember how you want. They 0:36:32.800 --> 0:36:35.560 don't remember that you want and that's what I think 0:36:35.600 --> 0:36:39.359 matters to him, And so is he gonna hang around, 0:36:39.600 --> 0:36:42.520 you know, a couple more years to get to that level? 0:36:43.080 --> 0:36:45.359 And if he doesn't have success this year, are they 0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:47.439 gonna allow him to do so? And I thought going 0:36:47.480 --> 0:36:52.600 into the year, yeah, But if they don't become competitive 0:36:52.600 --> 0:36:54.920 this year, if they don't make the playoffs, I have 0:36:55.040 --> 0:36:57.600 to admit for the first time, I'm gonna have to backtrack, 0:36:57.640 --> 0:37:00.239 and I'm gonna have to say he's fair game to 0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:02.960 look at this. Is he the best option for New England, 0:37:03.280 --> 0:37:07.680 for the Patriots organization to win going forward? It's a 0:37:07.719 --> 0:37:12.439 fair question. But I don't really degree with I don't 0:37:12.440 --> 0:37:16.120 really agree with degrees of warmness on the seat. I 0:37:16.160 --> 0:37:17.600 think you're either on the hot seat of you're not, 0:37:18.320 --> 0:37:21.480 so it's either blazing on fire or I don't give 0:37:21.520 --> 0:37:24.480 a crap one or the other. And you know, and 0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:26.840 I understand you both think that he's on to a 0:37:26.880 --> 0:37:29.200 varying degree. And at Lina, you said, oh, the seat's 0:37:29.200 --> 0:37:29.799 definitely warm. 0:37:30.040 --> 0:37:30.760 While I would. 0:37:30.520 --> 0:37:33.799 Agree with that, it's certainly not ice cold. But I 0:37:33.800 --> 0:37:37.240 don't think it's even a consideration for the Crafts until 0:37:37.239 --> 0:37:40.120 this year is over. And that's really the bottom line 0:37:40.120 --> 0:37:42.640 where I'm coming from. I think that if this team 0:37:42.960 --> 0:37:48.359 fails to reach the goals that management has set for itself, 0:37:49.080 --> 0:37:54.480 that there will be some introspective thinking and maybe even 0:37:54.600 --> 0:38:00.000 changing in the off season. I would still be honestly surprised. 0:38:00.160 --> 0:38:02.160 I know a couple of our guys and Patriots unfiltered, 0:38:02.200 --> 0:38:04.600 and you know, I think a lot of I think 0:38:06.239 --> 0:38:08.160 I think you would have to take something extraordinary for 0:38:08.200 --> 0:38:11.719 the Patriots to fire him, be extraordinary. If they go 0:38:11.840 --> 0:38:14.319 seven to ten, eight and nine, then you know, do 0:38:14.400 --> 0:38:17.480 I think he'll resign and quit? You know? Well, then 0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:19.480 let's say they go eight to nine again like they 0:38:19.480 --> 0:38:21.840 did last year. That's going to leave him eleven wins short. 0:38:22.239 --> 0:38:24.880 There's no freaking way that's going to happen. He's not 0:38:24.920 --> 0:38:26.880 going to do it. He's going to just, you know, 0:38:26.960 --> 0:38:30.239 put his nose to the grainstone and try to you know, yeah, 0:38:30.600 --> 0:38:32.640 and work this out. He wants to fix the problem 0:38:32.840 --> 0:38:36.520 before he steps out. He has enough personal pride in 0:38:36.600 --> 0:38:39.680 what he does, and through my observations of him over 0:38:39.719 --> 0:38:41.960 his twenty two plus years now that he's been here, 0:38:43.960 --> 0:38:47.960 he this matters. He doesn't want to leave. You know, 0:38:48.120 --> 0:38:50.839 the okay, corral with you know, dead bodies lying around. 0:38:50.880 --> 0:38:52.640 He wants to make sure that everybody's in good work 0:38:52.640 --> 0:38:55.520 in order that this franchise is ready to move forward. 0:38:55.719 --> 0:38:57.760 And I think that's where he and the Craft family 0:38:58.080 --> 0:39:00.840 are on the same page, and I think the Crafts 0:39:00.840 --> 0:39:05.560 will give him every opportunity to fix whatever the issue 0:39:05.640 --> 0:39:08.480 might be. This year will be a good first test 0:39:08.600 --> 0:39:12.200 because you know, his two buddies and Matt Patrician Joe 0:39:12.280 --> 0:39:15.480 Judge were off doing other things. Chris didn't even with 0:39:15.520 --> 0:39:18.160 the team this year. Joe has called the assistant head coach. 0:39:18.239 --> 0:39:20.240 That was one of the titles that he was bestowed 0:39:20.280 --> 0:39:23.080 as the titles came out. You know, actually here online 0:39:23.080 --> 0:39:25.440 on the website a couple of days ago in advance 0:39:25.440 --> 0:39:26.120 of training camp. 0:39:26.160 --> 0:39:26.319 Here. 0:39:26.760 --> 0:39:29.880 But you know, they're not in the same spot that 0:39:29.920 --> 0:39:32.480 you were in a year ago. That's why coach O'Brien 0:39:32.560 --> 0:39:34.840 was brought in because he has an experience here. He 0:39:34.880 --> 0:39:36.759 has experience as a head coach in the league, and 0:39:36.800 --> 0:39:41.040 he has experiences as a good offensive play caller and designer. 0:39:41.480 --> 0:39:44.000 That's why he's here because I think Bill had to 0:39:44.000 --> 0:39:46.879 realize without admitting it, okay, that was not the right 0:39:47.040 --> 0:39:50.359 tact to take. And I think the problem with what 0:39:50.400 --> 0:39:52.000 a lot of people are having is is because there 0:39:52.040 --> 0:39:54.680 are some in the media and there are fans, yes, fans, 0:39:54.760 --> 0:39:57.600 especially when that decision was made a year ago, they're like, 0:39:57.960 --> 0:39:59.080 what is he doing? 0:40:00.320 --> 0:40:02.680 I mean, look at his track record with the Houston Texans, 0:40:02.719 --> 0:40:06.440 Bill Ryan before then. But he I think he changed 0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:10.880 a lot of people's perspective with his offensive play calingy 0:40:10.920 --> 0:40:14.239 in Alabama that brought him back to the Patriots only. 0:40:14.320 --> 0:40:17.880 So there's and and and that's why they feel comfortable 0:40:17.880 --> 0:40:21.880 with him. And Bill knows, Uh that Bill O'Brien wanted 0:40:21.880 --> 0:40:23.759 to get back to the NFL. I think that's been 0:40:23.800 --> 0:40:25.799 a goal of his, you know, since he you know, 0:40:25.880 --> 0:40:29.239 he left h you know, the Texans especially, and then 0:40:29.239 --> 0:40:32.239 he you know, uh tutored you know for a year 0:40:32.280 --> 0:40:34.640 two years under uh you know Nick Samon and Alabama 0:40:35.120 --> 0:40:37.920 because you know, you know, these guys all know each other. 0:40:38.680 --> 0:40:41.600 Alabama obviously, you know, clearly has some of the pre 0:40:41.600 --> 0:40:44.480 eminent talent in all of college football. Uh. You know, 0:40:45.000 --> 0:40:47.279 Mac Jones and Bill O'Brien were like two ships that 0:40:47.320 --> 0:40:49.719 passed in the night. Mack had just graduated when Bill 0:40:49.719 --> 0:40:52.879 O'Brien stepped in, so did they work with each other, 0:40:53.239 --> 0:40:56.319 not directly, but sort of indirectly on a lot of things. Uh, 0:40:56.360 --> 0:40:57.880 And now they got a chance to kind of go 0:40:57.960 --> 0:41:00.759 back together. So I think there's some similar mindset there. 0:41:01.040 --> 0:41:03.440 And what the Patriots want to do anyway, is similar 0:41:03.520 --> 0:41:06.000 to what you know, mac ran in Alabama and what 0:41:06.040 --> 0:41:07.880 Bill has done not only in Alabama, but what he 0:41:07.920 --> 0:41:10.080 did in his time in the NFL before that. So 0:41:10.400 --> 0:41:12.560 I think we feel like there's gonna be some synergy there. 0:41:12.600 --> 0:41:15.080 And I think we all realized that was the biggest 0:41:15.160 --> 0:41:18.880 area of concern going in based on how last season ended. 0:41:19.560 --> 0:41:22.120 So let's give it a chance to work before we 0:41:22.200 --> 0:41:24.120 tear it down and say, oh, this is not gonna work. 0:41:24.200 --> 0:41:26.600 Bill's on the hot seat. He's got to go if 0:41:26.640 --> 0:41:31.759 the Patriots don't win this year. I'm just not that absolute, 0:41:31.960 --> 0:41:33.799 And I think if you really think this thing out, 0:41:35.120 --> 0:41:38.160 I don't think anybody you know reasonably will be that 0:41:38.200 --> 0:41:42.000 absolute because he's so close and the Patriots understand from 0:41:42.000 --> 0:41:45.440 an organizational standpoint, okay, that if he becomes the winningest 0:41:45.480 --> 0:41:48.480 coach of all time, and I believe you or I listen, 0:41:48.520 --> 0:41:50.160 believe me when I tell. 0:41:50.000 --> 0:41:53.640 You this that matters most definitely. 0:41:54.200 --> 0:41:57.560 That matters. I know that doesn't matter to really probably 0:41:57.600 --> 0:42:00.239 anybody outside of the organization because nobody else has a 0:42:00.320 --> 0:42:02.359 chance to even come close to it. No one may 0:42:02.400 --> 0:42:06.399 touch this record again because coaches they just they regurgitate, 0:42:06.440 --> 0:42:09.080 they recycle themselves so often. Now, if you don't win, 0:42:09.120 --> 0:42:11.520 you're down for two or three years, you're out. You 0:42:11.560 --> 0:42:14.040 don't get a chance to pull a Bill Belichick when 0:42:14.040 --> 0:42:15.920 he was at Cleveland. You don't get a chance to 0:42:15.960 --> 0:42:18.799 pull a Bill Belichick and have three four down years 0:42:18.840 --> 0:42:21.680 here in New England, you know, between you know, playoff appearances. 0:42:21.680 --> 0:42:23.560 You don't get a chance to do that because there's 0:42:23.600 --> 0:42:27.320 so much pressure to win. Bill is still in position 0:42:27.360 --> 0:42:29.600 to do that because of his track record and what 0:42:29.640 --> 0:42:32.919 he's done. And by the way, if he actually does 0:42:32.960 --> 0:42:38.200 surpass Shula, and I think he will, that automatically, you know, hey, 0:42:38.880 --> 0:42:41.239 that becomes a New England Patriots record just as well 0:42:41.280 --> 0:42:43.560 as it becomes a Bill Belichick record. Patriots will love 0:42:43.600 --> 0:42:45.960 the winningest coach of all time. I mean, didn't they 0:42:46.080 --> 0:42:51.160 name a trophy after the Green Bay Packers coach? Yeah? Okay, 0:42:51.320 --> 0:42:54.520 that's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. Well, you 0:42:54.560 --> 0:42:56.400 have a trophy named after him. Hell, I don't know, 0:42:56.719 --> 0:42:59.359 but I'm just saying that meant something back then, it 0:42:59.400 --> 0:43:04.160 means something today to the history of the league, and 0:43:04.200 --> 0:43:06.040 I think it'll be important for the Patriots, you know, 0:43:06.120 --> 0:43:07.799 to you know, see, if they can't get to that, 0:43:07.840 --> 0:43:09.520 they're gonna try to do the best that they can, 0:43:10.080 --> 0:43:12.479 you know, and fix things along the way. If Bill 0:43:12.680 --> 0:43:15.560 is lacking in any particular area, you know, they keep 0:43:15.560 --> 0:43:17.520 bringing in young people to sort of come in with 0:43:17.560 --> 0:43:20.719 the scouting and remaking, you know, the drafting. And now 0:43:20.719 --> 0:43:23.319 they brought in some energy onto the coaching staff as well, 0:43:23.360 --> 0:43:27.279 and hopefully assisting him in that particular endeavor. Not that 0:43:27.360 --> 0:43:31.200 I think he's incapable. Bill's forgotten more football than any 0:43:31.200 --> 0:43:34.719 of us will ever learn, and I think it'll be 0:43:34.760 --> 0:43:38.040 that way from now until Kingdom come. But every once 0:43:38.080 --> 0:43:40.560 in a while, yeah, you need an assist and I 0:43:40.600 --> 0:43:43.640 think those that are most successful in life understand that 0:43:43.760 --> 0:43:49.799 on occasion you do need help. Okay, I think that 0:43:49.880 --> 0:43:51.960 comes along with the table. All right, let's get onto 0:43:51.960 --> 0:43:54.080 a couple of the subject again. Eight five five Pats 0:43:54.120 --> 0:43:58.040 five hundred, eight five five pats five hundred Web Radio 0:43:58.040 --> 0:44:01.520 at Patriots dot Com at JR Broadcaster on Twitter. All right, 0:44:01.640 --> 0:44:03.560 let's start with this team after we've gotten off the 0:44:03.760 --> 0:44:07.080 Bill Belichick hot seat here. So going into training camp, 0:44:07.120 --> 0:44:09.880 what do you feel like the current greatest area of 0:44:10.120 --> 0:44:13.759 need is on the roster. I told you at the 0:44:13.760 --> 0:44:16.040 top of the show that one of the things that 0:44:16.080 --> 0:44:17.839 I want to see first other team is that Trent 0:44:17.880 --> 0:44:20.560 Brown knows how to block. Again, a couple of years ago, 0:44:20.640 --> 0:44:22.759 I thought he did a very very good job. Last year, 0:44:23.400 --> 0:44:25.920 Oh my god, I mean, dude led the league in 0:44:25.960 --> 0:44:29.879 Holtz offensive holds. So I'm just like, Okay, something's got 0:44:29.880 --> 0:44:34.560 to change there, because you know, somebody that six foot five, 0:44:34.640 --> 0:44:37.200 six foot eight, excuse me, in three hundred and sixty 0:44:37.239 --> 0:44:41.040 five bills, no need for him to hold just you know, 0:44:41.239 --> 0:44:43.680 move your feet, get in front of somebody, and you become, 0:44:43.760 --> 0:44:48.360 you know, literally a man mountain. Clearly something that was 0:44:48.360 --> 0:44:52.439 amiss there. So that's to me. I want to keep 0:44:52.480 --> 0:44:55.840 mac Jones's backside healthy so he has time in the 0:44:55.920 --> 0:44:58.680 pocket to be able to find the new targets and 0:44:58.719 --> 0:45:01.560 the old targets that he has had to point toward 0:45:01.920 --> 0:45:04.280 over the last couple of years. And really the pressure's 0:45:04.320 --> 0:45:10.319 on Mac Now, I think, uh, threefold, fivefold over what 0:45:10.360 --> 0:45:12.719 it was a year ago. Because last year was a wash. 0:45:13.600 --> 0:45:16.919 Year two was a wash. I think we know. And 0:45:16.920 --> 0:45:21.360 and it's because you know that, and frankly Bill owns that. 0:45:21.600 --> 0:45:24.040 Coach Belichick owns that he has to because he's the 0:45:24.040 --> 0:45:25.920 one that put the position the Patriots in position to 0:45:25.920 --> 0:45:28.000 fail like they did a year ago. Let's call it 0:45:28.040 --> 0:45:30.880 the way it is. So this year now you got 0:45:30.920 --> 0:45:32.319 to figure out whether or not Mac is your guy 0:45:32.360 --> 0:45:34.239 for the foreseeable future. And you got him, you know, 0:45:34.360 --> 0:45:37.799 this year, next year, under the rookie contract, before year 0:45:37.840 --> 0:45:40.080 five you have an option usually and then boom, you 0:45:40.080 --> 0:45:41.640 have to decide are we keeping him or are we 0:45:41.680 --> 0:45:43.879 gonna go draft somebody else, We're gonna trade for somebody else. 0:45:45.040 --> 0:45:46.880 So you wouldn't generally want to try to stack your 0:45:46.960 --> 0:45:51.200 roster while you have a quarterback whose salary you control. Young, 0:45:51.360 --> 0:45:53.719 talented can compete and be a part of it. I 0:45:53.719 --> 0:45:55.480 don't think there's anybody in their right mind that's going 0:45:55.520 --> 0:45:57.480 to say Mac Jones is the best quarterback in the 0:45:57.480 --> 0:45:59.960 AFC East, not with Aaron Rodgers coming to the fold 0:46:00.080 --> 0:46:03.160 in New York. But can he be competitive? Sure, we can't. 0:46:03.239 --> 0:46:05.320 Part of that is he has to have the time 0:46:05.560 --> 0:46:08.320 to find his targets. Trent Jones is Trent Brown is 0:46:08.360 --> 0:46:10.319 a big part of that. What do you guys thought 0:46:10.360 --> 0:46:14.239 on current greatest area of need on the roster And 0:46:14.320 --> 0:46:15.799 you don't have to agree with me, by the way, 0:46:15.800 --> 0:46:16.040 on the. 0:46:15.960 --> 0:46:20.000 Offensive line, Well, you said earlier I think that they 0:46:20.000 --> 0:46:22.399 needed a bigger, like a new wide receiver, like that's 0:46:22.440 --> 0:46:25.319 the greatest need. And I definitely agree with that that 0:46:25.760 --> 0:46:29.520 last year's they had terrible receivers and mixing in that 0:46:29.560 --> 0:46:32.920 with the new offensive coordinator, you just you need a big, 0:46:33.600 --> 0:46:35.400 new wide receiver to come in and just change that 0:46:35.400 --> 0:46:37.839 look for not only the team, but for Belichick. 0:46:40.200 --> 0:46:42.400 Anyone in particular. It's term of wide receiver. 0:46:45.200 --> 0:46:48.600 I know they had some people going had to head 0:46:48.640 --> 0:46:53.720 for a position battle. Yeah, Taekwon Thornton and Kendrick Bourne, 0:46:54.360 --> 0:46:55.440 so I know they were both. 0:46:55.520 --> 0:46:57.439 It's funny you should bring those two guys up because 0:46:57.480 --> 0:46:59.879 I think those guys are sort of on the ball. 0:47:00.520 --> 0:47:04.280 H I do. I love Kendrick Born. Kendrick was outspoken 0:47:04.320 --> 0:47:06.080 last year thinking that you know, hey, what are these 0:47:06.080 --> 0:47:08.000 guys doing. They're not getting me the ball enough? Right, 0:47:08.040 --> 0:47:13.240 and we talked about on this show months ago. I think, 0:47:13.320 --> 0:47:15.200 at least based on what we've heard from Kendrick in 0:47:15.239 --> 0:47:17.919 the offseason, he's itching to get back out there, yeah, 0:47:17.960 --> 0:47:20.360 and have an opportunity to show what he does. Taekwan 0:47:20.440 --> 0:47:24.000 should too, because in year two, you know, you're supposed 0:47:24.040 --> 0:47:26.480 to make your biggest leap from your rookie year to 0:47:26.520 --> 0:47:29.440 your sophomore year. That shouldn't be your biggest leap, and 0:47:29.520 --> 0:47:34.320 his rookie year was truncated because of injury. Yeah, I 0:47:35.360 --> 0:47:37.440 really expect those guys to try to put pedal to 0:47:37.520 --> 0:47:39.600 metal here in training camp and let's see what they got. 0:47:39.640 --> 0:47:41.239 And I think I think they're both supposed to be 0:47:41.320 --> 0:47:43.640 expected to make that fifty three man roster. 0:47:44.280 --> 0:47:45.560 Do you think they ultimately will? 0:47:46.239 --> 0:47:50.160 I mean, it depends on how they do, but I 0:47:50.160 --> 0:47:52.799 do think that they should be expected to, so they. 0:47:52.760 --> 0:47:54.839 Won't be, you know, one of those guys that they 0:47:54.880 --> 0:47:56.680 just kind of carry hoping that he shows up in 0:47:56.719 --> 0:47:57.480 the regular season. 0:47:57.640 --> 0:47:58.160 Yeah. 0:47:58.640 --> 0:48:00.919 So the next month really is for those two guys. 0:48:00.960 --> 0:48:03.360 You put it out now and play hard now and 0:48:03.400 --> 0:48:05.640 show what you've got now or when it gets to 0:48:05.680 --> 0:48:07.560 be a month from now, right before you know, we 0:48:07.600 --> 0:48:10.520 get to the you know, the the roster deadline, you're out. 0:48:10.560 --> 0:48:12.640 They're definitely gonna push each other for playing time and 0:48:13.560 --> 0:48:15.160 definitely gonna I'll go along with that. 0:48:15.440 --> 0:48:18.200 Nate, what do you think current greatest area of need 0:48:18.239 --> 0:48:18.800 on the roster? 0:48:20.600 --> 0:48:23.280 I think it's definitely the offense. It's somewhere on the offense. 0:48:23.320 --> 0:48:26.399 I think it's either like we've been talking about, wide 0:48:26.440 --> 0:48:28.040 receiver or I think it's quarterback. 0:48:28.280 --> 0:48:29.840 I think Mac Jones. 0:48:29.920 --> 0:48:32.399 We really, we really need to take a hard look 0:48:32.440 --> 0:48:36.200 at our quarterback. Mac has only been here two seasons, 0:48:36.239 --> 0:48:40.640 he's going into his third. He hasn't been pushed by anyone. 0:48:40.800 --> 0:48:44.200 He hasn't really had anyone to look up to. I mean, 0:48:45.640 --> 0:48:48.239 like you said, I think Bill Belichick has kind of 0:48:48.239 --> 0:48:51.719 put us put himself in this position. We no more 0:48:51.760 --> 0:48:55.200 Brady they I think they could have done things to 0:48:56.120 --> 0:48:57.560 keep people that left. 0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:02.640 But let's go back to wide receiver. 0:49:02.719 --> 0:49:06.600 I want I want to talk about Okay, Juju Smith Schuster. 0:49:06.880 --> 0:49:10.680 I think he could be let's let's just not even 0:49:10.680 --> 0:49:12.799 talk about player of need. I think he could be 0:49:12.840 --> 0:49:15.320 a player a position of need and he could be 0:49:15.360 --> 0:49:17.000 one of our key players of the season. He just 0:49:17.040 --> 0:49:21.120 came off one of his best seasons he's played with 0:49:21.360 --> 0:49:26.920 nine hundred and thirty three yards. I mean, Juju, I 0:49:27.000 --> 0:49:27.840 want to see Georgia. 0:49:28.000 --> 0:49:31.080 I want to see Jujo act like a one, even 0:49:31.160 --> 0:49:32.640 if he's physically not a one. 0:49:32.760 --> 0:49:35.200 If that makes sense, I agree, Yeah, it's it's it's 0:49:35.239 --> 0:49:38.080 not not always on the field, off the field, whether 0:49:38.120 --> 0:49:38.640 he's second. 0:49:38.760 --> 0:49:41.160 I thought battling with the White I. 0:49:41.080 --> 0:49:43.719 Thought last year in Kansas City, he really kind of 0:49:43.760 --> 0:49:45.680 picked up where Tyreek Hill had left off when he 0:49:45.760 --> 0:49:46.480 left from Miami. 0:49:46.520 --> 0:49:48.319 And I thought, you feel like he stepped out of 0:49:48.360 --> 0:49:51.760 his shell of Pittsburgh right there, Yeah, under the Tomlin 0:49:52.120 --> 0:49:52.840 Yeah organization. 0:49:53.040 --> 0:49:55.000 I would agree with that he stepped out of it 0:49:55.040 --> 0:49:58.319 because he knew there was a need in Kansas City, 0:49:58.400 --> 0:50:00.840 right he knew he had something one more Tyreek, So 0:50:02.000 --> 0:50:04.279 who are they gonna tiget? You know, who's Mahome's gonna 0:50:04.320 --> 0:50:07.160 go to? And I thought he stepped up and did well. Now, again, 0:50:07.440 --> 0:50:09.680 injuries are always an issue and they always will be, 0:50:09.760 --> 0:50:13.520 especially we're now a seventeen game schedule. But I'd like 0:50:13.560 --> 0:50:17.759 to see him assume a leadership role on the team. 0:50:17.960 --> 0:50:20.160 On the team, you know, on the field as well 0:50:20.200 --> 0:50:22.040 as in the locker room. Because they're gonna be a 0:50:22.080 --> 0:50:23.840 little bit of a void there. And Frank, you know 0:50:23.880 --> 0:50:26.360 without you know a guy like Devin mccorty who retired, 0:50:26.440 --> 0:50:29.200 so I would tell you that. To me, I think 0:50:29.239 --> 0:50:32.520 that's almost as big an area of need is finding 0:50:32.719 --> 0:50:37.600 someone to assume a leadership position role again as well 0:50:37.640 --> 0:50:39.480 as finding somebody who can actually, you know, step up 0:50:39.520 --> 0:50:41.320 on the field and do it. I think that's big 0:50:41.440 --> 0:50:43.200 because that's one of those things that sort of leads 0:50:43.200 --> 0:50:45.520 to the and our fans know this leads to the 0:50:45.520 --> 0:50:48.719 Patriot way, you know, where they let the veterans do 0:50:48.800 --> 0:50:50.600 most of the talking and the lot of locker room 0:50:50.600 --> 0:50:53.319 and everybody else follows. I mean, you guys are on 0:50:53.360 --> 0:50:55.440 athletic teams. You've been around on athletic teams long enough, 0:50:55.480 --> 0:50:58.200 you know this is why you have team captains. This 0:50:58.280 --> 0:51:00.680 is why you have leaders to set the tempo for 0:51:00.760 --> 0:51:04.520 everybody else to follow. You follow, you know, the leaders, 0:51:04.560 --> 0:51:08.000 and as they try to lead by example, right, and 0:51:08.120 --> 0:51:09.880 boy does that really come into play. I think when 0:51:09.880 --> 0:51:11.600 it comes to crunch time in the NFL. 0:51:11.880 --> 0:51:15.400 I I I really think that we should we should 0:51:15.400 --> 0:51:17.640 be seeing what his numbers last year he was in 0:51:17.719 --> 0:51:21.160 sixteen games, he didn't get injured. He held himself really 0:51:21.200 --> 0:51:24.680 well in all of his case games. Coming from Kansas City, 0:51:24.719 --> 0:51:27.799 I think here in here in Foxborough, we really need that. 0:51:28.239 --> 0:51:30.240 Like you said, we need a leader. We need someone 0:51:30.400 --> 0:51:33.560 leading off the field, on the field, in the locker room, 0:51:33.880 --> 0:51:36.480 at practice, not even at practice. 0:51:36.520 --> 0:51:37.680 We need we need a leader. 0:51:37.800 --> 0:51:40.399 We need someone who can lead this team and push 0:51:40.480 --> 0:51:43.400 players to be their best and even better. 0:51:44.440 --> 0:51:46.719 If we're not pushing our players, what are we doing. 0:51:47.680 --> 0:51:50.560 I feel like to your point date that lead that 0:51:50.719 --> 0:51:54.399 leadership is a learn trade, not like it's not something 0:51:54.440 --> 0:51:57.160 that's given to you based off It's not some Yeah, 0:51:57.160 --> 0:51:58.759 it's not something that's given to you based off of 0:51:58.920 --> 0:52:03.960 just you're there for multiple years and multiple experiences, right, Tru. 0:52:04.200 --> 0:52:08.440 That's that's why I believe that Juju Smith Schuster is 0:52:08.480 --> 0:52:12.560 gonna strug He's gonna struggle with his leadership leadership roles. 0:52:12.880 --> 0:52:13.080 Right. 0:52:13.640 --> 0:52:17.360 He's he's not a Juwan Binley, of course, trying to 0:52:17.719 --> 0:52:21.080 having the years under the Patriots Belchi Belichick knows what 0:52:21.120 --> 0:52:24.480 to expect from him out of captaincy. Right, this is 0:52:24.520 --> 0:52:27.160 something that Ju is gonna have to learn, and he 0:52:27.280 --> 0:52:29.480 has contact in NFL that can make that happen to 0:52:29.920 --> 0:52:33.400 just give him advice on that. I mean he's seen it. 0:52:33.400 --> 0:52:37.560 He's been with Ben Rollisberger, right, So I believe to 0:52:37.600 --> 0:52:40.680 that point that Jujus Smith Schuster is gonna learn, I 0:52:40.719 --> 0:52:42.680 believe this season how to be a good captain and 0:52:42.760 --> 0:52:47.080 speak up and use his leadership skills to provide a 0:52:47.120 --> 0:52:52.040 lot of chemistry and great field to this organization. 0:52:52.120 --> 0:52:54.920 For that would agree with him that one. What's your 0:52:54.920 --> 0:52:56.760 current greatest theory of need Mario. 0:52:57.040 --> 0:52:59.840 Grace area need it sides with off the line? I 0:52:59.840 --> 0:53:03.759 think I agree with you. John trim Brown is the 0:53:03.800 --> 0:53:07.400 only safe position for me at the tackle spot. That 0:53:07.480 --> 0:53:10.719 other tackle spot is very much up for debate. I 0:53:10.760 --> 0:53:15.279 think Riley Reeve has a lot of experience and he 0:53:15.360 --> 0:53:17.960 also has a great he has He has great work 0:53:18.000 --> 0:53:19.759 on the edge of course protecting it. 0:53:19.960 --> 0:53:20.160 Yep. 0:53:20.600 --> 0:53:23.640 Conor McDermott is someone else to also look out for. 0:53:23.719 --> 0:53:26.400 He's a pretty he's pretty versatile. You can use him 0:53:26.400 --> 0:53:29.640 in most spots on the field as off as an 0:53:29.640 --> 0:53:34.880 off the line member. Mike Amolu Kid is a decent 0:53:34.880 --> 0:53:35.680 swing as well. 0:53:36.120 --> 0:53:37.360 He can be very. 0:53:38.840 --> 0:53:41.640 I think at times he can be very spotty, but 0:53:43.280 --> 0:53:47.000 he has a good track record Okay, all. 0:53:46.960 --> 0:53:50.600 Right, very good. Let's do uh one more here because 0:53:50.640 --> 0:53:52.400 before we you know, we wrap up and get to 0:53:52.440 --> 0:53:54.839 our two of the program. I'm kind of curious what 0:53:54.880 --> 0:53:57.040 you guys look at as this team as a whole. 0:53:57.680 --> 0:54:00.560 All right, So what I'm i'm and I ask you 0:54:00.560 --> 0:54:02.440 to do here is put on your thinking caps, based 0:54:02.440 --> 0:54:05.200 on your research, based on your fandom, based on your 0:54:05.239 --> 0:54:07.680 knowledge whatever. And I want you to tell me where 0:54:07.719 --> 0:54:09.560 you think the team is going to be at the 0:54:09.640 --> 0:54:11.560 end of the season. What's the one loss record going 0:54:11.600 --> 0:54:14.520 to be? Are you you know, have you looked at 0:54:14.520 --> 0:54:17.879 the schedule? You know where the tough parts are going 0:54:17.920 --> 0:54:22.960 to come from. You have to take injury into consideration. Uh, 0:54:23.080 --> 0:54:27.560 you got to consider you know, the overall competition, uh, 0:54:27.600 --> 0:54:31.239 you know, for positional battles and and for uh you know, 0:54:31.400 --> 0:54:34.040 within certainly within the divisions that you got to play 0:54:34.200 --> 0:54:37.000 each other team in the afcast twice this year. And 0:54:37.080 --> 0:54:40.200 then ultimately, based on the record that you think this 0:54:40.239 --> 0:54:43.080 team will finish with, will they make the postseason? 0:54:44.239 --> 0:54:46.680 I'll go first. I think they're gonna be seven and ten. 0:54:47.760 --> 0:54:51.319 I don't think they make the playoffs. The team has 0:54:50.560 --> 0:54:54.080 a few pieces or they need a few more pieces 0:54:54.080 --> 0:54:59.719 on defense. They haven't fully matured, to say, in the 0:54:59.800 --> 0:55:03.359 organanization yet as a team, I think the defense has 0:55:03.440 --> 0:55:07.000 mastered your scheme and is ready to contend. I think 0:55:07.040 --> 0:55:09.920 the offense doesn't have the firepower consistently to be a 0:55:09.920 --> 0:55:14.400 double digit win season this year, or a postseason team 0:55:14.520 --> 0:55:17.680 at that maybe at the seventh spot, Okay. I believe 0:55:17.680 --> 0:55:21.080 they're a postseason contender about a year or two with 0:55:21.120 --> 0:55:22.919 a solid silence upgrade this year. 0:55:23.080 --> 0:55:27.840 Okay, all right, so you don't think they're gonna get there? No, Okay, 0:55:28.400 --> 0:55:29.040 so that's fair. 0:55:29.360 --> 0:55:30.439 I agree with Mario two. 0:55:30.719 --> 0:55:32.319 I don't really I do. 0:55:32.400 --> 0:55:32.840 Yeah. 0:55:33.280 --> 0:55:36.680 I think honestly the Patriots are gonna go eight and 0:55:36.760 --> 0:55:41.239 nine again, and they're not gonna with no playoffs, and 0:55:41.239 --> 0:55:44.040 I don't I don't see when division does come around 0:55:44.160 --> 0:55:46.040 that they'll, Like I said before, they're gonna have a 0:55:46.040 --> 0:55:50.520 good enough chemistry to pull something off, and like I 0:55:50.560 --> 0:55:52.480 and I think that if they do, it will be 0:55:52.520 --> 0:55:54.560 a shock to all of us if they do so. 0:55:55.400 --> 0:55:57.279 I definitely that's how I look at it. I just 0:55:57.320 --> 0:56:01.480 don't think based off these new players and based off 0:56:01.880 --> 0:56:05.440 their defense and all these things contributed into one, I 0:56:05.480 --> 0:56:07.160 really don't think they're gonna make it pass. 0:56:07.600 --> 0:56:11.000 We got doubting Thomas's here in the room. I can't 0:56:11.000 --> 0:56:13.799 believe that I'm the one that's all, you know, you know, 0:56:13.960 --> 0:56:16.040 sunshine and unicorns here. 0:56:16.080 --> 0:56:17.200 Do you think they're gonna make it? 0:56:17.280 --> 0:56:17.600 I do. 0:56:18.440 --> 0:56:18.680 I do. 0:56:18.800 --> 0:56:22.000 In fact, I think the Patriots may shock the NFL. 0:56:22.560 --> 0:56:24.640 What do you think the record right now? 0:56:24.840 --> 0:56:27.359 I think I said this last month when we talked 0:56:27.360 --> 0:56:30.040 about the schedule. I'm going to take them at ten 0:56:30.120 --> 0:56:33.120 and seven with an outside chance at eleven and six 0:56:33.360 --> 0:56:37.120 in spite of the difficulty of the record, and I 0:56:37.120 --> 0:56:42.120 think they'll get into the playoffs and depending on their matchup, yeah, 0:56:42.160 --> 0:56:43.880 I think they'll win a game. I don't know that 0:56:43.920 --> 0:56:46.640 they'll go beyond one game, but I think they'll they'll 0:56:47.320 --> 0:56:51.319 I think they'll win and get into the semifinals in 0:56:51.360 --> 0:56:53.560 the AFC. That's my thought because I think what they'll 0:56:53.600 --> 0:56:55.960 end up matching up with again, it all is predicated 0:56:56.000 --> 0:57:00.160 on injuries, you know. I think that a matchup in 0:57:00.239 --> 0:57:03.839 the in the second round, you know, in the wild 0:57:03.920 --> 0:57:07.440 card after the wild card weekend with either Buffalo or 0:57:07.520 --> 0:57:10.040 Kansas City is going to be extraordinarily difficult for them 0:57:10.080 --> 0:57:10.600 to match up. 0:57:10.640 --> 0:57:11.399 So that's what I think. 0:57:11.440 --> 0:57:13.719 I think Bills is gonna take the Bills are gonna 0:57:13.719 --> 0:57:15.960 take it all in the division. I think they're gonna win. 0:57:16.240 --> 0:57:19.840 Okay, Okay, that's fair, that's fair. I do think the 0:57:19.840 --> 0:57:22.680 Patriots get in his wildcard, so I'll take them. I'll 0:57:22.680 --> 0:57:24.920 take them right now at ten and seven. They get 0:57:24.960 --> 0:57:28.040 in his wild card, and then it's all about matchups. 0:57:28.040 --> 0:57:29.240 But I'll go ahead and go out on a limb 0:57:29.240 --> 0:57:30.480 and say they can win a game. And I think 0:57:30.520 --> 0:57:32.160 that would be a step in the right direction. Why 0:57:32.440 --> 0:57:35.200 Because I think they know they need to take that 0:57:35.240 --> 0:57:37.640 step at a franchise. They're going to work hard, and 0:57:37.680 --> 0:57:40.200 I think everybody and I think they've got more talent 0:57:40.280 --> 0:57:43.600 this year. There's no question in my mind. They have 0:57:43.760 --> 0:57:46.000 more talent on this team than they had a year ago. 0:57:46.360 --> 0:57:48.840 Now do they have the right talent, We don't know yet, 0:57:49.280 --> 0:57:50.680 and we're only gonna be able to find that out 0:57:50.680 --> 0:57:53.240 as the season unfolds. But I think, look, if you 0:57:53.240 --> 0:57:56.200 look at this team on offense this year, even the 0:57:56.280 --> 0:57:58.680 roster now with ninety eighty nine players whatever it is 0:57:58.760 --> 0:58:01.040 right now, based on what they had last year, it's 0:58:01.160 --> 0:58:04.080 night and day. There are more guys that can make plays. 0:58:04.320 --> 0:58:06.200 I loved, and I've said this to you know, our 0:58:06.200 --> 0:58:10.280 audience here before. I love the acquisition of Gasiki. You know, 0:58:10.320 --> 0:58:12.560 he's like a six foot six slot receiver. I think 0:58:12.600 --> 0:58:14.640 he's gonna end up being mac Jones's Binkie. 0:58:14.880 --> 0:58:15.080 You know. 0:58:15.160 --> 0:58:17.840 I can see that it's coming Ju. That should open 0:58:17.920 --> 0:58:20.280 up room for Juju as well. Even though Juju is 0:58:20.320 --> 0:58:22.960 primarily a slot type of guy. I think he'll be 0:58:22.960 --> 0:58:25.040 able to line up wide if they choose to do that. 0:58:25.240 --> 0:58:26.600 I think you'll be able to take off with the 0:58:26.600 --> 0:58:29.240 ball if they choose to do that. So there are 0:58:29.240 --> 0:58:30.720 a lot of different ways that I think they'll be 0:58:30.760 --> 0:58:34.240 able to try to utilize him. I've always loved Devonte Parker, 0:58:34.280 --> 0:58:36.000 he just can't stay healthy enough to get out of 0:58:36.040 --> 0:58:39.080 his own way. I want to see him play twelve games. 0:58:40.200 --> 0:58:43.760 If we could get twelve to fourteen games out of Davante, 0:58:44.320 --> 0:58:46.080 you know, then I think the Patriots are going to 0:58:46.120 --> 0:58:48.160 be right where they need to be because he's one 0:58:48.160 --> 0:58:50.240 of those guys that can go up and get it, 0:58:50.280 --> 0:58:52.320 throw it up. He you know, should be able to 0:58:52.360 --> 0:58:54.960 win most one on one matchups with most corners in 0:58:54.960 --> 0:58:58.480 the league. You're certainly in the AFC. I'm actually excited 0:58:58.520 --> 0:59:01.000 about the new weapons that they have, at least on paper, 0:59:01.280 --> 0:59:03.840 on offense, and I think it will be better than 0:59:03.880 --> 0:59:05.720 it was a here going I'm willing to give them 0:59:05.760 --> 0:59:07.360 the benefit of the doubt. Now now I could be 0:59:07.400 --> 0:59:09.920 eating crow, you know, in another month here or you know, 0:59:09.960 --> 0:59:11.800 if someone gets hurt, or in two months after we 0:59:11.840 --> 0:59:13.960 get into the first four weeks of the season. Because 0:59:14.080 --> 0:59:16.200 one of the things I did say a month ago 0:59:16.200 --> 0:59:18.040 when we were talking about the record, is there's a 0:59:18.080 --> 0:59:20.120 good chance this team could go one in three to 0:59:20.160 --> 0:59:23.320 start the year based on the strength of schedule. There's 0:59:23.360 --> 0:59:28.560 a really good chance. Does that doom them? No, it 0:59:28.600 --> 0:59:32.720 does not, It won't. Nate, what do you think? 0:59:33.760 --> 0:59:35.080 I think this year is gonna be a struggle? 0:59:35.240 --> 0:59:38.720 You said, you said we have more talent, But the 0:59:38.840 --> 0:59:40.480 question we should be asking ourselves do we have the 0:59:40.560 --> 0:59:44.000 right talent. We have a lot of new guys, big 0:59:44.160 --> 0:59:46.120 new team this year. I think the start of the 0:59:46.120 --> 0:59:49.160 season is going to be a really big struggle. I 0:59:49.200 --> 0:59:52.920 agree with the start of the season, we're gonna go 0:59:52.920 --> 0:59:55.680 one in three. I think it's it's not gonna be 0:59:55.720 --> 0:59:58.400 a great start for us, Nor do I think we'll 0:59:58.440 --> 0:59:59.440 be making the postseason. 0:59:59.440 --> 1:00:02.400 I think we'll see eight wins and we'll have nine losses. 1:00:02.480 --> 1:00:05.640 So you have eight and Alina has eight, Mario has seven, 1:00:06.520 --> 1:00:09.640 So you guys are definitely not buying into the hype. 1:00:10.520 --> 1:00:12.120 No, I'll tell you what. 1:00:12.720 --> 1:00:16.360 Become the chief waiver around here. Come on, never happened. 1:00:16.360 --> 1:00:17.240 We're all biased. 1:00:17.360 --> 1:00:18.960 We love the team, we want them to go far, 1:00:19.400 --> 1:00:21.920 so does everyone. We're all here for the Patriots except 1:00:21.920 --> 1:00:27.800 for Mario. Get out of here, Titans fan. But we 1:00:27.880 --> 1:00:29.880 gotta be honest with ourself. We can't hype us up. 1:00:29.960 --> 1:00:32.120 We can't hype hype, hype this season up too much. 1:00:32.240 --> 1:00:35.600 We like, like you've been saying, our our division is 1:00:35.600 --> 1:00:39.120 definitely the hardest division in sports. I mean, the Patriots 1:00:39.440 --> 1:00:45.440 have the hardest. We're in the hardest division, and and 1:00:45.520 --> 1:00:46.880 are we gonna be able to battle through it? 1:00:48.040 --> 1:00:48.680 I don't think so. 1:00:48.960 --> 1:00:51.560 Okay, it's gonna be a tough fight, but I could 1:00:51.560 --> 1:00:51.840 tell it. 1:00:51.960 --> 1:00:53.200 I mean it's fair, that's fair. 1:00:53.680 --> 1:00:55.440 That's that's why I said eight and nine, because I 1:00:55.600 --> 1:00:58.160 I don't think we'll be able to battle our way through. 1:00:58.280 --> 1:01:00.320 We have bills on the schedule twice, same thing. We 1:01:00.400 --> 1:01:02.840 got everyone on scheduled twice Bills is gonna be really 1:01:02.840 --> 1:01:04.320 tough for us. If we can pull out one win 1:01:04.360 --> 1:01:06.480 from them, that that would be amazing, But I don't 1:01:06.480 --> 1:01:07.240 think it's gonna happen. 1:01:07.240 --> 1:01:08.600 That'd be like a step in the right direction. 1:01:08.640 --> 1:01:10.520 That would be a great step in the right direction. 1:01:10.640 --> 1:01:11.960 We really have to look at ourselves at the end 1:01:11.960 --> 1:01:13.920 of the season if this is how we go, If 1:01:13.920 --> 1:01:15.760 we have a season like the Jets seven and ten, 1:01:15.800 --> 1:01:17.680 if we go something like that, or if we even 1:01:17.720 --> 1:01:20.760 have something like the Raiders six and eleven, we really 1:01:20.840 --> 1:01:22.880 have to look at what we're doing as a team. 1:01:23.240 --> 1:01:26.720 And so then you guys firmly put coach Belichick on 1:01:26.760 --> 1:01:28.040 the hot seat after that finish. 1:01:28.200 --> 1:01:31.800 Yeah, it's if we have something like the Raiders or 1:01:31.840 --> 1:01:35.200 even the Broncos where we go five and twelve, we 1:01:35.240 --> 1:01:38.080 really have to look at is Belichick the right coach 1:01:38.880 --> 1:01:39.720 and where does he need to go? 1:01:40.000 --> 1:01:42.160 That's fair, we did say that. But I tell you 1:01:42.240 --> 1:01:44.040 one thing. These guys are not sucking up to the 1:01:44.080 --> 1:01:45.240 professor right now, are they? 1:01:45.360 --> 1:01:45.880 No? 1:01:45.880 --> 1:01:46.440 No? 1:01:46.520 --> 1:01:48.560 Sorry, sorry, love you, John, but no. 1:01:49.320 --> 1:01:52.240 I like that. Hey Eldred in North Carolina eight five 1:01:52.280 --> 1:01:55.560 to five, Pats five hundred, the total free number Eldred. 1:01:55.960 --> 1:01:57.120 Where are we driving today? 1:01:59.240 --> 1:02:02.360 How do legend and the panel? I'm up in the 1:02:02.400 --> 1:02:05.720 mount heard of a Cherokee, Yes, sir, North Carolina? 1:02:05.840 --> 1:02:06.000 Yes? 1:02:06.160 --> 1:02:07.680 What are gambling casinos? 1:02:07.760 --> 1:02:10.400 Yes, sir, yes, well I'm around the corner from them. 1:02:10.440 --> 1:02:11.680 Who you gambling on today? 1:02:12.680 --> 1:02:12.840 Oh? 1:02:12.880 --> 1:02:15.600 I ain't gambling. I'm I'm delivering some big man holes 1:02:15.600 --> 1:02:17.400 because they got to do some roads on a quady 1:02:17.440 --> 1:02:20.080 road or where that road called. They got repair that 1:02:20.160 --> 1:02:23.720 real bad, yes, and but doing them one a time. 1:02:23.840 --> 1:02:24.800 It's like a ghost down. 1:02:25.160 --> 1:02:25.320 Now. 1:02:25.800 --> 1:02:30.320 You got tourists everywhere, bikers, you got hot pants, church 1:02:30.520 --> 1:02:32.200 tops look pretty good a week. 1:02:33.040 --> 1:02:35.120 The hell with the tourists. Just you know, leave your 1:02:35.120 --> 1:02:37.800 money out el Yeah, really, leave your money and get 1:02:37.800 --> 1:02:38.640 the hell out right. 1:02:40.040 --> 1:02:41.880 You got that right? But I like the attraction. 1:02:41.920 --> 1:02:46.240 They're looking very well, totally totally. What's so? What's what? What? 1:02:46.240 --> 1:02:46.520 What do you? 1:02:46.560 --> 1:02:47.680 I mean, what do you think of what these guys 1:02:47.720 --> 1:02:49.560 have been talking about? I mean, I know how you 1:02:49.600 --> 1:02:52.520 feel about Bill. Okay, tell me tell me why. 1:02:54.120 --> 1:02:58.080 One? Uh? Like I said, is this the way of thinking? 1:02:58.360 --> 1:03:01.000 And that's work good in the in the nineties when 1:03:01.000 --> 1:03:02.480 he with the giants, But he didn't work too good. 1:03:02.480 --> 1:03:05.280 With the with the Cleveland Brown, you know, and it 1:03:05.360 --> 1:03:07.720 didn't work. You know, ain't working good now, you know, 1:03:07.720 --> 1:03:11.200 because you got to play star star players. And I'm 1:03:11.240 --> 1:03:13.640 tired of everybody's saying we didn't ever have a chance 1:03:13.720 --> 1:03:16.520 get Yes, we did. He just didn't get them. Heck, 1:03:16.560 --> 1:03:19.120 he brought nine to ten up inside the buildings, worked 1:03:19.200 --> 1:03:22.520 him out, then then pick him and last couple of 1:03:22.600 --> 1:03:25.360 drafts they sitting right there. He got his guys what 1:03:25.400 --> 1:03:28.320 he thinks, and he don't like paying nobody. You know, 1:03:28.600 --> 1:03:31.400 he'll pay defense now if guns all his pans out, 1:03:31.400 --> 1:03:33.320 which I know he will. I think I'm pretty sure 1:03:33.320 --> 1:03:37.080 he will. He'll get that eighty to ninety million dollar contract. 1:03:37.400 --> 1:03:39.000 He'll get it, but he won't pay that for a 1:03:39.040 --> 1:03:42.000 star wide receiver. Yeah, you know, he won't pay that. 1:03:42.560 --> 1:03:46.320 And another thing he won't do the people that he got. 1:03:46.440 --> 1:03:47.400 He drafts and. 1:03:47.440 --> 1:03:51.919 That core that you done made or house thanks. When 1:03:51.920 --> 1:03:53.960 he comes to signing time, he don't want to sign him. 1:03:54.280 --> 1:03:56.560 He did the chep him out, chip him out, or 1:03:56.600 --> 1:03:58.960 you know he might do a sign and didn't trade him. 1:03:59.000 --> 1:03:59.680 That's ridiculous. 1:03:59.680 --> 1:04:02.360 That's your core. You know. When you was coming up, 1:04:03.600 --> 1:04:09.040 Stevenson coming up okay, and douglah, I'll keep every one 1:04:09.080 --> 1:04:10.760 on them. I'm sorry, that's my. 1:04:10.760 --> 1:04:13.720 Core, okay, and I won't disagree with that. No, I 1:04:13.720 --> 1:04:16.160 think you're I think you're right. So they didn't. They 1:04:16.200 --> 1:04:18.840 basically didn't do enough to get them back where you 1:04:18.880 --> 1:04:20.080 think they need to be right now. 1:04:21.240 --> 1:04:25.240 No, sir and uh Paul put something on on on 1:04:25.400 --> 1:04:29.000 us a couple of days ago and said, if they 1:04:29.000 --> 1:04:32.560 went all in on Brady from ninth from eighteen, nineteen 1:04:32.600 --> 1:04:33.840 and twenty, what. 1:04:33.920 --> 1:04:34.960 You think the rug would be? 1:04:35.720 --> 1:04:38.240 So Prian said, I don't know if they went all 1:04:38.320 --> 1:04:41.560 in on Brady and when a Mari couple came open, 1:04:42.280 --> 1:04:48.120 when the Hawk first went and left and then a dig, 1:04:48.560 --> 1:04:51.120 you had three more Super Bowls, you had three more. 1:04:51.680 --> 1:04:53.720 Well, I don't know that. I listen, I don't know 1:04:53.720 --> 1:04:55.200 that they would have done that, but I would tell 1:04:55.200 --> 1:04:56.880 you that if they had decided to go all in 1:04:56.920 --> 1:04:59.360 on Brady run and keep him here, then I think 1:04:59.360 --> 1:05:01.920 they would have made an effort to keep more talent 1:05:02.040 --> 1:05:02.520 around him. 1:05:02.600 --> 1:05:06.400 Yes, and and you don't think with that talent he 1:05:06.480 --> 1:05:09.520 went with no talent, No talent, Like I said, everybody 1:05:09.520 --> 1:05:12.800 has had had leborguineas and sports cars he had Tukatys 1:05:13.040 --> 1:05:15.920 went to Zoo both the six down with us in 1:05:15.960 --> 1:05:16.480 one six. 1:05:17.080 --> 1:05:17.800 You don't think he was. 1:05:17.880 --> 1:05:19.960 If he went all in, he would have won three more. 1:05:20.080 --> 1:05:22.439 I know he would have. He won one with with. 1:05:22.360 --> 1:05:23.200 The with the bucks. 1:05:23.480 --> 1:05:26.200 And I don't care if it was of COVID season 1:05:26.640 --> 1:05:28.520 we had we had't do the same thing that did. 1:05:28.600 --> 1:05:31.120 Uh what y'all had to do with us learned to 1:05:31.200 --> 1:05:32.200 learn office, learn to play? 1:05:32.400 --> 1:05:33.680 Yeah, I mean they got him there. 1:05:33.760 --> 1:05:36.160 Yeah, I mean it's a good argument. I mean it's 1:05:36.160 --> 1:05:38.400 a good argument. That's obviously an answer that will we'll 1:05:38.440 --> 1:05:41.920 never get because it will it'll never happen, right, But 1:05:42.000 --> 1:05:45.520 I could I would certainly see that, you know, you 1:05:45.560 --> 1:05:48.400 know COVID year, you know, look that that to me 1:05:48.440 --> 1:05:50.280 would have been the year to do it, because you know, 1:05:50.640 --> 1:05:53.600 everybody had struggles, so you know, if you've done a 1:05:53.600 --> 1:05:56.520 better job of keeping talent on the team and keeping Brady, 1:05:56.840 --> 1:05:59.440 I could see that one potentially working out, you know, 1:05:59.440 --> 1:06:01.760 to the Patriot liking for the last couple of years, 1:06:01.840 --> 1:06:04.480 depending upon what would have happened that year. I'm not 1:06:04.520 --> 1:06:04.959 so sure. 1:06:06.680 --> 1:06:09.600 Well, I'm thinking, well, I'm pretty sure because that's the 1:06:09.600 --> 1:06:12.160 greatest of all time. And everybody can get mad to 1:06:12.200 --> 1:06:14.680 be saying this. I don't care. He didn't come to 1:06:14.680 --> 1:06:16.240 the greatest coach that he had the greatest player. 1:06:16.280 --> 1:06:16.840 Yeah, I get it. 1:06:16.880 --> 1:06:18.000 Those two go hand in hand. 1:06:18.120 --> 1:06:18.760 Yeah I get it. 1:06:18.800 --> 1:06:22.720 You know you know that that was that andin then Brady. 1:06:22.800 --> 1:06:26.040 You could say one thing about Brady. One Super Bowl went, 1:06:26.040 --> 1:06:28.640 the two playoffs lost because they got I played. It 1:06:28.760 --> 1:06:31.080 was RT or whatever, but they got I played. But 1:06:31.120 --> 1:06:32.720 he did take him there three years in a row. 1:06:33.120 --> 1:06:36.680 You can't say that on this end. You can't say 1:06:36.720 --> 1:06:39.320 that you got the wrong you know, got your own people, 1:06:40.800 --> 1:06:42.720 got the wrong people when you draft, you know, and 1:06:42.760 --> 1:06:44.280 everybody was right there with what you needed. 1:06:44.880 --> 1:06:45.080 You know. 1:06:45.760 --> 1:06:48.120 But like I said, that's build way of thinking. You 1:06:48.200 --> 1:06:51.080 think this way is the best way. But that's not 1:06:51.240 --> 1:06:54.200 you know, that's not not this year or the last 1:06:54.200 --> 1:06:56.520 couple of years football. You know they ain't playing like 1:06:56.560 --> 1:06:58.200 that no more. But he won't change it. 1:06:58.480 --> 1:07:00.320 What do you think, Elder, It is the biggest area 1:07:00.320 --> 1:07:01.720 of need on the roster right now. 1:07:02.640 --> 1:07:04.040 You know I won't say wide receiver. 1:07:04.160 --> 1:07:08.120 Yeah, I'm gonna say that outside. 1:07:07.320 --> 1:07:12.040 Because if I was the defense annoying, Uh Bill O'Brien, 1:07:12.120 --> 1:07:13.760 what do you like to do made in the middle 1:07:13.760 --> 1:07:15.520 of the field and all that. I'm stopping in the 1:07:15.560 --> 1:07:17.280 middle till you show me somebody on the outside that 1:07:17.400 --> 1:07:19.400 I gotta worry about. I don't care if you do. 1:07:19.440 --> 1:07:21.680 Gotta stu stucking around. You have picked to run the 1:07:21.720 --> 1:07:23.960 four two. He ain't showed me nothing yet, and he 1:07:24.040 --> 1:07:26.400 burned me a couple of times. Then I'm gonna back up, 1:07:26.560 --> 1:07:27.240 but I'm gonna. 1:07:27.040 --> 1:07:27.800 Call out that middle. 1:07:28.240 --> 1:07:31.560 That's what I would do. You showed me something, elk. 1:07:31.680 --> 1:07:32.840 You guys have anything for Eldrick? 1:07:32.840 --> 1:07:33.520 Do you want to here? 1:07:33.560 --> 1:07:35.680 I gotta I got a question, Eldrick. What's what do 1:07:35.680 --> 1:07:37.840 you think the record is? I think you quickly said it, 1:07:37.880 --> 1:07:39.440 but I didn't hear. What was the what do you 1:07:39.440 --> 1:07:41.240 think the record for the Pats season? 1:07:46.320 --> 1:07:47.080 To win a shootout? 1:07:47.200 --> 1:07:47.920 You guys cheating? 1:07:48.000 --> 1:07:48.320 Maybe? 1:07:48.320 --> 1:07:50.040 Did you guys cheat and call and talk to Eldrick 1:07:50.080 --> 1:07:51.960 before we started here? Why the hell are you guys 1:07:52.000 --> 1:07:52.920 all on the same page? 1:07:53.000 --> 1:07:54.720 And I went out in land. 1:07:54.800 --> 1:07:57.440 We love you, We've heard, We've heard some stories. 1:07:57.640 --> 1:07:58.640 Uh, we love you. 1:07:58.640 --> 1:07:59.600 You're a fan of the show. 1:08:00.680 --> 1:08:01.200 Thank you. 1:08:01.560 --> 1:08:04.960 He's everybody too. But think about it. I'm gonna see me, 1:08:05.520 --> 1:08:10.080 mister mister legend. If you get a shootout with the Eagles, 1:08:10.120 --> 1:08:15.160 the Cowboys, the Chiefs, the Bikers, Buffalo Miami got Buffalo 1:08:15.160 --> 1:08:18.280 Miami twice, and now the Jet even though they got 1:08:18.320 --> 1:08:20.439 Aaron Rodgers. If I think Aaron Rodgers gonna fall apart, 1:08:20.520 --> 1:08:23.720 I don't think so. You know, so you gotta win 1:08:23.760 --> 1:08:27.160 a shootout. You ain't got the web. It's the run 1:08:27.200 --> 1:08:27.720 hihoot out. 1:08:28.000 --> 1:08:28.240 I think. 1:08:28.280 --> 1:08:30.599 I think actually this might be one season where we 1:08:30.840 --> 1:08:35.479 might see the Jets above us for once. They they haven't, 1:08:35.520 --> 1:08:36.680 they haven't. 1:08:36.760 --> 1:08:38.160 Rogers is not all that. 1:08:38.600 --> 1:08:39.960 He's not. He's not, he's not. 1:08:40.120 --> 1:08:43.120 But they have the prospects, they have the talent. They 1:08:43.200 --> 1:08:45.080 just need a team that's gonna work together. 1:08:45.280 --> 1:08:46.639 Need a quarterback exactly. 1:08:47.160 --> 1:08:49.000 And some love Bisola as well. 1:08:49.840 --> 1:08:52.840 I just don't. I don't running back well, yeah, but 1:08:52.880 --> 1:08:54.680 they're gonna get that back. I think Breess Hall is 1:08:54.720 --> 1:08:57.600 gonna you know, he's very good. I loved him at 1:08:57.640 --> 1:08:59.559 Iowa Stake because he was a thorn in my side. 1:08:59.600 --> 1:09:00.879 But he's very explosive. 1:09:00.960 --> 1:09:05.760 He's extraordinarily explosive. And if he's completely healthy, they'll have 1:09:05.800 --> 1:09:06.519 their running back. 1:09:06.800 --> 1:09:09.000 They'll have him, Yeah, they have, And plus they got 1:09:09.000 --> 1:09:10.479 somebody in the background there to back him. 1:09:10.400 --> 1:09:12.240 Up a little bit, you know, so he's pretty well. 1:09:12.240 --> 1:09:13.920 They just yeah, they did, didn't they did just sign 1:09:14.000 --> 1:09:17.040 James Robinson who we had here. I believe they did. 1:09:17.160 --> 1:09:19.320 Yes, I think they. I think they did somebody before 1:09:19.360 --> 1:09:20.280 him that was a guy. 1:09:20.360 --> 1:09:22.400 There was a rent back before him. Yeah, that took 1:09:22.520 --> 1:09:23.320 place for a little bit. 1:09:23.320 --> 1:09:25.320 You know, he's pretty good two four minute. 1:09:25.200 --> 1:09:28.599 But all of them looking at it's the competition level, 1:09:28.800 --> 1:09:30.880 you know, And then I know we got we got 1:09:30.920 --> 1:09:33.760 good coaches. Now, you know we didn't have him last year. 1:09:34.479 --> 1:09:37.639 But it's the talent thing, you know, Juju, you can 1:09:37.680 --> 1:09:40.639 pay some million what give what call thirty some millions 1:09:40.680 --> 1:09:44.559 and that's not not thirty but thirteen sixteen million, Yeah 1:09:44.560 --> 1:09:46.960 to Parker, and I got, like I told you, you 1:09:47.040 --> 1:09:50.599 got a disgrunted rob receiver in Denver. Give a third 1:09:50.720 --> 1:09:52.680 round or fourth front and go get a Bill And 1:09:52.720 --> 1:09:55.920 that's such way better than Parker and younger, fast and taller, 1:09:56.160 --> 1:09:58.960 and we'll go get it and got speed. Now they 1:09:58.960 --> 1:10:00.400 don't give somebody on the O side. 1:10:00.640 --> 1:10:03.479 You're talking about a quarterback here. Do you think Mac 1:10:03.720 --> 1:10:06.920 can bounce back from his season last year and grow 1:10:07.000 --> 1:10:09.360 under Bill O'Brien, Like, what do you think about that? 1:10:11.520 --> 1:10:13.679 I think it'd be more. I think he can because 1:10:13.720 --> 1:10:17.479 that's more like Josh McDaniel, a real offensive coordinator. Somebody 1:10:17.600 --> 1:10:20.040 gonna get his attention, gonna work under his canic tell 1:10:20.120 --> 1:10:21.800 him what you know this and that he didn't have 1:10:21.880 --> 1:10:24.200 that last year And nor did Bill bring him in 1:10:24.200 --> 1:10:27.040 the nurture that I can see, you know, on sidelines 1:10:27.120 --> 1:10:28.880 or whatever, like he did what you call like he 1:10:28.960 --> 1:10:31.439 did Brady, what's the thing you go talk to Brady? 1:10:31.760 --> 1:10:34.519 He didn't do that with Matt. You know, he didn't 1:10:34.520 --> 1:10:36.320 do that. I think he'll do a little bit better. 1:10:36.840 --> 1:10:38.760 And like I said, you still a couple of shots deep. 1:10:38.800 --> 1:10:40.479 Somebody can get over there, Burnham, cup of time. They 1:10:40.560 --> 1:10:42.599 gonna make somebody back up right now. We ain't got 1:10:42.600 --> 1:10:44.759 nobody to making nobody back up. So I'm just coming 1:10:44.760 --> 1:10:47.960 forward that you got better corners. You got Ramsey in 1:10:48.000 --> 1:10:50.639 there now over there with the other guy from Miami. 1:10:51.000 --> 1:10:52.880 Then you got Sauce and this other guy they got 1:10:52.920 --> 1:10:55.960 over there. Then you got Buffalo corners. You know, jam, 1:10:56.080 --> 1:10:58.240 they can jam, they can run. You ain't got nobody 1:10:58.320 --> 1:10:58.960 can run with him. 1:11:00.120 --> 1:11:02.160 Yeah, all right, Elder I'm gonna leave you with one 1:11:02.160 --> 1:11:03.960 more here because the guy's kind of started out with 1:11:04.000 --> 1:11:06.120 this and I think I know your answer, but I 1:11:06.400 --> 1:11:09.040 really kind of like for you to contribute. Here is 1:11:09.080 --> 1:11:10.920 Bill on the hot seat? Why or why not? 1:11:12.479 --> 1:11:14.400 He's a house fit for the last hoo told seasons 1:11:15.320 --> 1:11:15.640 with me. 1:11:17.040 --> 1:11:18.320 He is burning hot. 1:11:18.439 --> 1:11:22.439 Yeah, yeah, sir, I mean, I mean somewhere down the line. 1:11:23.160 --> 1:11:25.120 You have to see what's going on in the NFL. 1:11:25.200 --> 1:11:28.240 I mean, he ain't no dummy, He's smartest ay to be. 1:11:28.600 --> 1:11:30.559 You have to see and you have to see that 1:11:30.600 --> 1:11:33.200 your way ain't going ain't doing. You ain't working like 1:11:33.800 --> 1:11:36.719 it did before because you had demand. You ain't got demand. 1:11:36.760 --> 1:11:37.799 Now. You can't keep. 1:11:37.680 --> 1:11:40.439 Playing like that. You can't keep drafting like that, you 1:11:40.439 --> 1:11:43.800 can't keep scheming like that. You ain't the skiing. It's 1:11:43.840 --> 1:11:46.479 the player and the scheme. And like I said before, 1:11:46.840 --> 1:11:48.320 you be the greatest coach in the world. But if 1:11:48.360 --> 1:11:49.880 you ain't got them plague, you're just a coach holding 1:11:49.920 --> 1:11:51.800 the clipbull on the sideline. That's all you are. 1:11:52.000 --> 1:11:57.760 Yeah, for Jesus the fact, Yeah, I like that, Elder that. 1:11:57.760 --> 1:11:59.559 I love you, brother. Thanks for calling in. 1:12:00.360 --> 1:12:00.920 I have a good one. 1:12:01.040 --> 1:12:03.639 Gotta go see you all right, he's gotta finish making 1:12:03.680 --> 1:12:05.599 his load here. All right. If you're on the phones, 1:12:05.800 --> 1:12:08.120 hang in, I'm gonna get right to you. But guys, 1:12:08.280 --> 1:12:10.320 good job on the first hour here. Appreciate you all, 1:12:10.439 --> 1:12:12.720 thank you. 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Today 1:16:10.960 --> 1:16:14.080 was the first day of training camp here at Gillette Stadium. 1:16:14.160 --> 1:16:17.559 As I mentioned in the opening hour of the program, 1:16:17.600 --> 1:16:21.280 that you know, really today tomorrow Friday will really be 1:16:21.360 --> 1:16:26.200 more glorified OTAs than anything else, just because it's a 1:16:26.200 --> 1:16:29.240 continuation of what was learned, and then just to see 1:16:29.240 --> 1:16:31.759 what the retention has been after having five six weeks 1:16:31.760 --> 1:16:34.960 off since OTA has ended in June. And then they'll 1:16:35.120 --> 1:16:38.800 get to you know, pad work and contact and yes, 1:16:39.320 --> 1:16:44.439 true competition beginning next week on Monday. That were players 1:16:44.479 --> 1:16:47.559 that were missing today at the opening of training camp, 1:16:48.160 --> 1:16:52.080 Mike on when you and Calvin Anderson were I guess 1:16:52.160 --> 1:16:56.320 the most notable absentees. When you is currently on the PUP, 1:16:56.520 --> 1:17:00.320 the physically unable to perform list, Anderson is on the 1:17:00.400 --> 1:17:04.160 non football illness list earlier this week was something that 1:17:04.320 --> 1:17:09.240 was not football related O WHENU is recovering from ankle surgery, 1:17:09.280 --> 1:17:11.400 as I know many of you were probably aware that 1:17:11.479 --> 1:17:13.280 he had in the off season. So that's why those 1:17:13.320 --> 1:17:16.640 two guys weren't there. I don't think that we're expecting 1:17:17.560 --> 1:17:22.920 any difficulties or anything lingering from where those guys are, 1:17:23.320 --> 1:17:26.440 you know, are presently. I think that's the biggest issue. 1:17:26.560 --> 1:17:29.719 And then I also find out today Cody Davis, who's 1:17:29.760 --> 1:17:33.439 the special teamer in safety also on the PUP, is 1:17:33.439 --> 1:17:36.160 the only other player that was missing to my knowledge, 1:17:36.200 --> 1:17:41.599 at least based on the start of practice today here 1:17:41.640 --> 1:17:45.479 at Gillette. DeMarcus Mitchell was present, and I know the 1:17:45.520 --> 1:17:48.200 Boston Herald reported this as well. He's kind of been 1:17:48.680 --> 1:17:51.240 been moved from the NFI the non Football injury list 1:17:51.240 --> 1:17:54.479 as well, so he's back, so that's probably good. Marte 1:17:54.560 --> 1:17:57.800 Maphu done, the rookie from Sack State. He did not 1:17:58.560 --> 1:18:01.120 yet a red jersey on, so that means no contact. 1:18:01.120 --> 1:18:03.519 So I think they're just being sort of, you know, 1:18:03.760 --> 1:18:07.320 careful with him. I mentioned, you know earlier, you know, 1:18:07.360 --> 1:18:10.400 to radio station that I spoke to in Maine this 1:18:10.439 --> 1:18:12.479 morning as they were all hyped up about the opening 1:18:12.560 --> 1:18:16.200 day of training camp, that Mapoo's one of the guys 1:18:16.240 --> 1:18:18.599 that I really am looking forward to seeing the most. 1:18:19.000 --> 1:18:20.639 You know, there are a lot of hype here about 1:18:20.640 --> 1:18:23.559 a guy that you know clearly played at another level. 1:18:23.600 --> 1:18:27.040 I mean Sack State. Let's face it, Okay, it's not 1:18:27.120 --> 1:18:29.880 Pac twelve, it's you know, not Big twelve, it's not 1:18:29.920 --> 1:18:33.000 Big ten. But that doesn't mean that talent doesn't exist. 1:18:33.080 --> 1:18:35.320 And so to me, this is an example a of 1:18:35.360 --> 1:18:36.720 a guy that might be playing a little bit more 1:18:36.760 --> 1:18:38.000 of a chip on his shoulder, kind of like we 1:18:38.040 --> 1:18:41.120 saw Kyle Duggart a few years ago, right, ironically that 1:18:41.240 --> 1:18:43.840 you know, these guys will probably play similar positions, right, 1:18:43.960 --> 1:18:48.800 number one and number two. This is a test of 1:18:49.120 --> 1:18:52.479 the team scouting staff. This is a test of you know, hey, 1:18:52.520 --> 1:18:55.200 these guys can recognize talent no matter where it be playing, 1:18:55.400 --> 1:18:57.680 where it'll be playing, and whatever level it might be 1:18:57.760 --> 1:19:00.320 located on. So Mapoo's a guy that I'm really kind 1:19:00.320 --> 1:19:03.720 of looking forward to trying to identify and see how 1:19:03.760 --> 1:19:06.680 he begins to make out and can he perform to 1:19:06.800 --> 1:19:10.240 the level of early expectation for the Patriots. All right, 1:19:10.320 --> 1:19:11.920 So before we get back to the phones, I want 1:19:11.960 --> 1:19:13.960 to welcome in our panel for an hour number two 1:19:14.000 --> 1:19:17.120 and again, these are my sports broadcasting students at Dean 1:19:17.560 --> 1:19:21.439 this summer. We'll welcome onto the program Charlie Adams. Charlie's 1:19:21.479 --> 1:19:25.360 from Do you are even Kranston in Warwick? Cranston, Right, Cranston, 1:19:25.400 --> 1:19:27.720 Rhode Island, Okay, And so you go to Cranston East 1:19:27.800 --> 1:19:28.599 High School? Correct? 1:19:28.760 --> 1:19:28.960 Yep? 1:19:29.040 --> 1:19:32.920 All right, gotcha? And you remember the Thunderbird broadcast program. 1:19:32.520 --> 1:19:34.600 There, Yep, Thunderbolt Sports Media. 1:19:34.400 --> 1:19:35.200 Thunderbolt Sports. 1:19:35.240 --> 1:19:35.680 I love that. 1:19:35.920 --> 1:19:36.439 I love that. 1:19:36.560 --> 1:19:38.160 You want to give a shout out to coach Simone 1:19:38.240 --> 1:19:38.880 or anything like that. 1:19:39.040 --> 1:19:42.559 Yep, mister Simone and the people over at fans Only 1:19:42.600 --> 1:19:45.799 Sports Network give me a good opportunity to get my chops, 1:19:46.400 --> 1:19:48.280 get my reps in in high school, all right. 1:19:48.360 --> 1:19:50.320 Fans Only is actually where we send a lot of 1:19:50.360 --> 1:19:52.000 our Dean kids over to work with, and you probably 1:19:52.000 --> 1:19:54.880 even worked with some of them, some of them. Maya galupo, Hi, 1:19:54.920 --> 1:20:00.320 Maya Hi, So Maya tellus you are a senior getting 1:20:00.360 --> 1:20:01.559 ready to be a senior in high school? 1:20:01.600 --> 1:20:01.960 Right, yes? 1:20:02.120 --> 1:20:03.559 And where do you reside? 1:20:04.560 --> 1:20:06.000 I'm in I'm near Baltimore. 1:20:06.120 --> 1:20:08.160 Okay, so you're another out of state or here? 1:20:08.360 --> 1:20:08.439 Ye? 1:20:08.600 --> 1:20:09.560 Are you a Ravens? 1:20:10.120 --> 1:20:12.800 No, I'm a Patriots fan because I'm family from here. 1:20:13.080 --> 1:20:15.360 Oh so where's your family from? 1:20:15.439 --> 1:20:17.160 I think like around Natick and Lowell. 1:20:17.400 --> 1:20:18.800 Okay, all right, I don't know. 1:20:18.800 --> 1:20:20.479 If I said that, right, No, no, you did. 1:20:20.560 --> 1:20:22.400 That's actually a good job out of you. You know, 1:20:22.439 --> 1:20:24.960 some people will say Natick, that's true. Some people will 1:20:24.960 --> 1:20:27.800 say wor Chester, you know which. If you do, then 1:20:27.840 --> 1:20:29.800 we can tell you're not from here, right, Okay, that's 1:20:29.840 --> 1:20:33.760 all right. Uh so if you're you born and raised there? 1:20:34.320 --> 1:20:36.080 Oh yeah, okay, Baltimore. 1:20:35.760 --> 1:20:39.639 So you largely became a Patriot fan because of your family? 1:20:39.840 --> 1:20:40.240 Yes? 1:20:40.600 --> 1:20:43.960 Wow, so the Patriot fan influence must be heavy in 1:20:44.000 --> 1:20:46.679 your family, then, yes? Does anybody in your family follow 1:20:46.720 --> 1:20:47.160 the Ravens? 1:20:47.640 --> 1:20:47.880 No? 1:20:48.200 --> 1:20:50.280 Wow, so everybody's a Pats fan? 1:20:50.479 --> 1:20:50.719 Yes? 1:20:50.960 --> 1:20:55.280 Oh okay, him Aya's family. How you doing? Everybody good? 1:20:55.680 --> 1:20:55.960 Uh? 1:20:56.080 --> 1:20:56.840 Zach Goldberger? 1:20:56.920 --> 1:20:57.080 Zach? 1:20:57.120 --> 1:20:57.719 Where are you're from? 1:20:57.960 --> 1:20:58.120 From? 1:20:58.200 --> 1:20:59.000 Brooklyn, New York? 1:20:59.120 --> 1:20:59.479 Oh? 1:20:59.680 --> 1:20:59.920 God? 1:21:01.479 --> 1:21:04.040 One of those Jets, Giants? 1:21:04.600 --> 1:21:05.160 Cowboys? 1:21:05.600 --> 1:21:06.280 Oh lord. 1:21:07.840 --> 1:21:10.360 I didn't want to say it on the podcast. I 1:21:10.439 --> 1:21:14.040 might feel a little flamed, but uh I love that, 1:21:14.240 --> 1:21:17.080 all right. So the obvious question then for me, Zach, 1:21:17.280 --> 1:21:19.200 is how did you get to be a Cowboy fan 1:21:19.200 --> 1:21:19.760 from New York? 1:21:19.840 --> 1:21:21.880 All right, so I'm a big college football fan. I'm 1:21:21.880 --> 1:21:24.360 a big Michigan fan. Okay, and a few years back, 1:21:24.880 --> 1:21:27.479 well over half their graduates went to the Cowboys. I 1:21:27.479 --> 1:21:28.680 was like a right, you know, I off of all 1:21:28.720 --> 1:21:30.519 the Cowboys and I started liking. 1:21:30.360 --> 1:21:31.479 The team, you know, yep? 1:21:31.720 --> 1:21:33.960 So all right, well it's not a great excuse. 1:21:33.680 --> 1:21:35.800 But no, no, that's fine. We You know, obviously you 1:21:35.800 --> 1:21:37.439 and I have something in comic because you know, people 1:21:37.439 --> 1:21:39.080 who've listened to this show for any length of time 1:21:39.160 --> 1:21:41.240 know that I grew up, you know, with the Cowboys 1:21:41.280 --> 1:21:43.439 in my backyard being from Texas, and so I was 1:21:43.479 --> 1:21:45.840 a Cowboy fan. But I was a Cowboy fan pre 1:21:46.080 --> 1:21:49.320 Jerry Jones ownership. You know, this is when you know 1:21:49.439 --> 1:21:52.400 they were owned by you know, the Murchisons and uh 1:21:52.479 --> 1:21:55.400 and then the Brights of the World. And when Tom 1:21:55.479 --> 1:21:57.800 Landry was the you know, one and only head coach 1:21:57.880 --> 1:22:00.559 that team ever had, and you know, just the way 1:22:01.080 --> 1:22:02.920 it rolled with me, and I stopped really being a 1:22:02.920 --> 1:22:07.080 fan of the Cowboys, you know, when Jerry Jones unceremoniously dispatched, 1:22:07.439 --> 1:22:09.680 you know, arguably one of the greatest coaches to have 1:22:09.720 --> 1:22:11.760 ever you know, coached the game in the NFL. But 1:22:12.479 --> 1:22:14.040 I can get off on a tangent on that one 1:22:14.040 --> 1:22:15.960 if you want to, and maybe you and Isaac will 1:22:15.960 --> 1:22:17.840 do that at some point in time. Right, we can 1:22:17.880 --> 1:22:23.040 do that. And let's also welcome kurrent Cochley Kerrn's local midfield. 1:22:22.720 --> 1:22:24.160 Right that field twenty minutes on the road. 1:22:24.280 --> 1:22:24.479 Right. 1:22:24.520 --> 1:22:27.960 So, you know, I know probably why you're a Patriot, Sampit, 1:22:27.960 --> 1:22:31.040 because you've grown up here. You're into sports in high school. Correct, Yes, 1:22:31.040 --> 1:22:33.400 I am in the sports high school broadcasting as well. 1:22:33.520 --> 1:22:35.240 Yeah, I'm in the broadcasting as well. I do a 1:22:35.280 --> 1:22:37.160 lot of work with Medfield TV. You're in a sports 1:22:37.160 --> 1:22:40.280 show there called Warrior Sports Talk, and it's incredible. It's 1:22:40.280 --> 1:22:42.320 a great opportunity to get work in and learn a 1:22:42.360 --> 1:22:44.080 lot about the industry and the business and how it 1:22:44.120 --> 1:22:45.360 all goes. And it's incredible. 1:22:45.439 --> 1:22:48.400 All right, So you guys ready to tackle you know, 1:22:48.560 --> 1:22:49.840 the topics of the day. 1:22:50.040 --> 1:22:50.519 All right. 1:22:50.640 --> 1:22:53.160 Before we get to them, let's get William and Philadelphia 1:22:53.200 --> 1:22:55.080 in here, because William's been kind enough to hold on 1:22:55.360 --> 1:22:57.920 during the break. Hey William, you're in the playbook. 1:22:58.760 --> 1:22:59.960 Mister Brook what's going on? 1:23:00.120 --> 1:23:00.679 How you doing? 1:23:01.960 --> 1:23:02.360 All right? 1:23:02.439 --> 1:23:05.919 I've been trying to reach you for I've been missing. 1:23:06.080 --> 1:23:08.479 I guess one of your shows come on and I 1:23:08.560 --> 1:23:10.240 don't know when, I say, all right, maybe he's on 1:23:10.320 --> 1:23:11.640 a day And I looked on the ALP and I 1:23:11.680 --> 1:23:15.320 was like, all right, he's one if I can talk all. 1:23:15.680 --> 1:23:19.840 I Hey, listen, I'm I'm I'm uh welcome to I'll 1:23:20.080 --> 1:23:22.240 shoot the bleep with you anytime you want it. I mean, 1:23:22.720 --> 1:23:24.439 you know how to get me on social media? 1:23:24.560 --> 1:23:26.240 Right? Yeah? 1:23:26.760 --> 1:23:27.120 Yes, sir? 1:23:27.240 --> 1:23:28.960 All right, so you can you don't have to wait 1:23:28.960 --> 1:23:31.479 for the show. I'm glad you did though. I mean, 1:23:31.560 --> 1:23:33.080 you know, I'm really happy that you take the time 1:23:33.120 --> 1:23:34.400 to do it on the show. But you know, hey, 1:23:34.439 --> 1:23:36.720 we can we can do it just about anytime. Our 1:23:36.720 --> 1:23:38.960 show in August will be on August thirtieth, and then 1:23:39.320 --> 1:23:42.639 the next week we start the regular season, right before 1:23:42.680 --> 1:23:44.800 the first game against the Eagles, so that'll be the 1:23:44.880 --> 1:23:49.080 next couple of times that we'll have the show on. Yeah, 1:23:49.600 --> 1:23:51.240 all right, fire away, what do you got man? 1:23:52.479 --> 1:23:52.639 Uh? 1:23:54.560 --> 1:23:55.960 Well, I'm gonna say hello to the panel. 1:23:58.000 --> 1:23:59.880 You guys say hello to one. 1:24:00.000 --> 1:24:00.320 There we go. 1:24:01.240 --> 1:24:05.120 Hey, how y'all going do? I'm a fat just fan too, uh, 1:24:05.280 --> 1:24:08.000 even though I look at Philadelphia, so don't judge me. 1:24:09.040 --> 1:24:13.040 So I gotta agree with the panel seven and ten. 1:24:12.920 --> 1:24:17.040 To really agree with no kidding, we'll find out how 1:24:17.040 --> 1:24:19.080 these guys you know are are opening hour. I don't 1:24:19.120 --> 1:24:21.200 know if you guys heard of it, Uh, seven and ten, 1:24:21.320 --> 1:24:24.320 eight and nine, maybe you know, And we'll we'll tackle 1:24:24.479 --> 1:24:27.000 that one here shortly. But I you know, I I 1:24:27.040 --> 1:24:29.120 feel like, what the hell am I looking at that 1:24:29.200 --> 1:24:31.679 you guys aren't Because I've said ten and seven, eleven 1:24:31.720 --> 1:24:32.440 and six. 1:24:32.439 --> 1:24:34.479 That's mostly our group is thinking we were Marlin Lineman. 1:24:34.600 --> 1:24:37.000 So you're looking okay, all right, So William tell me 1:24:37.040 --> 1:24:38.200 why seven and ten man? 1:24:39.600 --> 1:24:42.200 Well, I'm definitely being nice. I actually want to be 1:24:42.200 --> 1:24:45.960 worse than that, but I'll be nice about it. So 1:24:46.520 --> 1:24:49.160 let me start. I guess let's start here your fourth season. 1:24:49.200 --> 1:24:53.000 Then you're going in your fifth season, and it's the roster. 1:24:53.160 --> 1:24:56.320 It's just I mean, Bill's he drops the ball every time, 1:24:56.320 --> 1:24:58.360 and I think, what was the last storm with the 1:24:58.400 --> 1:25:04.640 DeAndre Hopkins situation? Like you you're being cheap and you 1:25:04.640 --> 1:25:06.920 you do not have Tom Brady no more. You have 1:25:07.320 --> 1:25:11.439 mag Jones and he's not he's not. He's just he 1:25:11.479 --> 1:25:14.559 needs talent around him. He don't need stuff par talent. 1:25:14.600 --> 1:25:17.600 He needs really strong talent around. 1:25:17.320 --> 1:25:18.040 Him, you know. 1:25:18.200 --> 1:25:21.840 And I mean faces, figures on filter, they just they 1:25:21.880 --> 1:25:23.880 disagree with me all the time. They I guess they 1:25:23.920 --> 1:25:27.639 homeless bars. I don't, but I mean, look, I love 1:25:27.680 --> 1:25:28.960 the team too, but I'm gonna call it the way 1:25:28.960 --> 1:25:32.040 I see, you know, and we're gonna find we I'm 1:25:32.040 --> 1:25:33.559 gonna tell you this one too that no one is 1:25:33.680 --> 1:25:34.559 really talking about. 1:25:34.600 --> 1:25:34.680 That. 1:25:35.400 --> 1:25:38.000 You're gonna find out why Deyvin mccordy was nice, because 1:25:38.280 --> 1:25:41.280 then mccordy was calling you know, line line the players 1:25:41.360 --> 1:25:43.559 up and one night the Corns and everything we're gonna 1:25:43.600 --> 1:25:48.200 miss that, We're gonna get exposed, gonna gets bad. And 1:25:48.880 --> 1:25:51.040 just one more thing to our first game is uh 1:25:51.320 --> 1:25:53.960 the Philadelphia eatings. I'm gonna I got one word for 1:25:54.000 --> 1:25:56.040 the front seven for the philup you nasty? 1:25:56.760 --> 1:26:00.680 Yeah? Well, I mean yeah, I mean yea. Let's face it, 1:26:00.680 --> 1:26:04.040 that's a super Bowl caliber team right still, So, I mean, 1:26:04.080 --> 1:26:05.960 I know the Patriots know that they have their hands full. 1:26:06.000 --> 1:26:07.880 That's a hell of a game to for anybody to, 1:26:07.960 --> 1:26:10.160 you know, start the year off with. And and uh, 1:26:10.280 --> 1:26:12.680 it'd be a lot of heavy expectation because of the 1:26:12.680 --> 1:26:15.320 Tom Brady Day thing and all that other stuff. I'm 1:26:15.360 --> 1:26:18.280 not sure how many people really expect the Patriots to 1:26:18.360 --> 1:26:22.680 win that game, even if it's here. You know, I 1:26:22.920 --> 1:26:25.679 think that you're, you're, you're probably that would be money 1:26:25.680 --> 1:26:28.120 in the bank if you could get that one. 1:26:29.800 --> 1:26:31.360 You know, I don't know how you could be even 1:26:31.680 --> 1:26:33.120 I don't know how you can be fonditive about this. 1:26:33.479 --> 1:26:34.559 I just can't well. 1:26:34.840 --> 1:26:38.120 And I but I'll tell you exactly why I'm positive, 1:26:38.160 --> 1:26:40.559 because that they clearly have more talent on the offensive 1:26:40.560 --> 1:26:41.960 side of the ball than they had a year ago, 1:26:42.160 --> 1:26:44.680 and I think the defense will improve from where it 1:26:44.760 --> 1:26:46.599 was a year ago as well. So if you make 1:26:46.760 --> 1:26:50.599 small incremental improvements, and I think they've made more than 1:26:50.600 --> 1:26:53.120 that on the offensive side, but even on the defensive side, 1:26:53.240 --> 1:26:56.200 if you've made small incremental improvements, I think you know, 1:26:56.360 --> 1:26:58.680 rising tide lifts all boats, and this team could be 1:26:58.720 --> 1:27:01.880 a little bit better now. I know the schedule's tougher, 1:27:02.240 --> 1:27:06.559 and the schedule could clearly, clearly, you know, cause the 1:27:06.560 --> 1:27:09.960 balance to tip either way. I think it's gonna be 1:27:10.000 --> 1:27:12.479 that way for everybody, because the great unknown here when 1:27:12.479 --> 1:27:15.000 you go into any NFL season, all right, and it's 1:27:15.040 --> 1:27:17.360 more so now than at any other time in the 1:27:17.400 --> 1:27:20.840 history of the game. This is a marathon. It is 1:27:20.960 --> 1:27:26.200 no sprint. There are seventeen long ass weeks to this season, 1:27:27.040 --> 1:27:30.120 and that's enough time for any team to a get hurt, 1:27:30.320 --> 1:27:34.439 b overcome that hurt, and see get healthy again. And 1:27:34.520 --> 1:27:37.880 so if you've got enough depth on your roster, you 1:27:37.920 --> 1:27:41.080 can still be competitive. And that's you know, even to 1:27:41.160 --> 1:27:42.800 the Patriots. Like I said in the opening hour of 1:27:42.800 --> 1:27:45.679 the show, here, if you start one in three, which 1:27:45.720 --> 1:27:48.719 I think it's it's quite possible, this team could start 1:27:48.760 --> 1:27:51.519 one in three, could they still be a playoff team? 1:27:51.560 --> 1:27:54.280 They absolutely could be. Now when you look at it, 1:27:54.320 --> 1:27:56.160 that means, well, they start one in three, rook and 1:27:56.160 --> 1:27:57.840 you think they're gonna go ten and seven, that means 1:27:57.800 --> 1:28:00.080 they're gonna go nine and four the rest of the way. 1:28:00.160 --> 1:28:02.720 You know, who are you fooling them? I'm not fooling anybody, 1:28:03.600 --> 1:28:06.000 because you're still got the same talent as long as 1:28:06.000 --> 1:28:10.000 it's healthy. And if other teams don't have luck and 1:28:10.120 --> 1:28:13.400 it does require some of that here, if other teams 1:28:13.439 --> 1:28:16.120 don't have that luck with health, they'll come down to 1:28:16.160 --> 1:28:18.200 your level and you've got a chance to take advantage 1:28:18.200 --> 1:28:20.960 of that. That's what I'm banking on. This is a marathon, 1:28:21.000 --> 1:28:26.000 this is not a sprint. Injuries matter. I want to 1:28:26.000 --> 1:28:28.519 see this team build up depth, and I think they've 1:28:28.520 --> 1:28:31.880 done a much better job of trying to build depth internally. 1:28:32.160 --> 1:28:34.360 This is why you see guys that can play two ways, 1:28:34.560 --> 1:28:37.040 Guys that can play multiple positions on the offensive line, 1:28:37.160 --> 1:28:39.720 the defensive line, especially in the secondary, guys that can 1:28:39.760 --> 1:28:43.880 play corner and safety, play safety and linebacker. I mean, 1:28:43.920 --> 1:28:46.640 we see a lot of this multi talented depth that 1:28:46.680 --> 1:28:48.920 already exists on this roster, and I think it's a 1:28:48.920 --> 1:28:51.240 step above where they were this time of year ago. 1:28:51.360 --> 1:28:54.000 That's the reason for my optimism. And I'm not just 1:28:54.040 --> 1:28:57.120 waving pompons here. This is exactly what I thought. And 1:28:57.360 --> 1:29:00.120 I'm somewhat encouraged by this. But you know, my my 1:29:00.240 --> 1:29:02.679 esteem panels year. They just don't seem to at least 1:29:02.720 --> 1:29:04.840 the first hour, they don't seem to agree too much. 1:29:08.439 --> 1:29:11.240 All right, fair enough, but I'll tell you what. I'll 1:29:11.240 --> 1:29:17.080 tell you what we'll do, William. We will revisit this, right, yes, sir, Yeah, yeah, 1:29:17.880 --> 1:29:23.439 all right, thank you, Thank you, buddy, appreciate it. Eight 1:29:23.479 --> 1:29:26.240 five five PATS five hundred, toll free number eight five 1:29:26.360 --> 1:29:29.840 five p A t S five hundred, Web radio at 1:29:29.840 --> 1:29:33.280 Patriots dot com, on email at JR Broadcaster on Twitter, 1:29:33.600 --> 1:29:35.640 or John dot Rook on Facebook. Those are all the 1:29:35.640 --> 1:29:37.560 ways that you can get a touch with the program. 1:29:37.800 --> 1:29:38.519 All right, guys, so. 1:29:38.560 --> 1:29:42.360 Let's kind of let's let's let's start with what we 1:29:42.560 --> 1:29:47.720 ended the previous hour with. Let's talk about predicting twenty 1:29:48.040 --> 1:29:51.040 twenty three. You know, clearly William thinks seven and ten. 1:29:52.439 --> 1:29:57.439 The guys, your your fellow, you know, uh, students didn't 1:29:57.439 --> 1:30:00.200 go above eight and nine. Okay, that's what they thought 1:30:00.240 --> 1:30:02.559 all over. I get the sense that you might be 1:30:02.640 --> 1:30:06.200 a little more optimistic and maybe we'll be agreeable, maybe not. 1:30:06.200 --> 1:30:08.360 But I want to know why you have that optimism. 1:30:08.600 --> 1:30:12.320 Okay, go, I mean yeah, I think obviously it's easy 1:30:12.360 --> 1:30:14.080 to look at the schedule and because seven to ten 1:30:14.160 --> 1:30:16.280 is realistic, is it worse than that is realistic? This 1:30:16.320 --> 1:30:19.719 schedule is leghit. There are a lot of serious, difficult 1:30:19.720 --> 1:30:21.560 playoff teams on here. I think I got ranked the 1:30:21.560 --> 1:30:23.519 hardest schedule in the league, as a matter of fact. 1:30:23.680 --> 1:30:25.960 So it's no surprise to see people predicting us with 1:30:25.960 --> 1:30:28.479 a losing record well under five hundred. And I'd be 1:30:28.479 --> 1:30:30.679 wrong if I said I couldn't see it. But there's 1:30:30.720 --> 1:30:33.439 also a really, really feasible way that this team can 1:30:33.720 --> 1:30:36.000 be a competitor. They can win some shootouts with the 1:30:36.040 --> 1:30:39.040 addition of Bill O'Brien, the addition of Mike Aseki, so 1:30:39.160 --> 1:30:42.519 we I predicted ten and seven personally, and I think 1:30:43.120 --> 1:30:44.720 the big wins you see on the schedule that might 1:30:44.760 --> 1:30:47.040 be surprising. I have a win over the Cowboys, much 1:30:47.080 --> 1:30:50.760 to the sugar of Zach over there, and I also 1:30:50.800 --> 1:30:53.559 have us taking a game against the Jets, much improved team. 1:30:53.760 --> 1:30:55.400 I think we're gonna split with them this year. We 1:30:55.439 --> 1:30:57.800 could lose both games, so that also determines a lot 1:30:57.800 --> 1:31:00.280 of where we end up. This division is tough, the 1:31:00.320 --> 1:31:02.479 hardest division in the league easily, But I think when 1:31:02.520 --> 1:31:04.160 you look at some of our teams outside we play 1:31:04.200 --> 1:31:07.479 the Chargers, the Steelers, the Broncos, the Commanders, those are 1:31:07.520 --> 1:31:09.439 all games that this team I think should be able 1:31:09.439 --> 1:31:11.000 to handle with the death that we have, with the 1:31:11.000 --> 1:31:13.080 talent that we have. So I have them going ten 1:31:13.080 --> 1:31:15.920 and seven. I think realistically, if they can keep that pace, 1:31:15.960 --> 1:31:17.559 they can keep up with the teams in the AFC East. 1:31:17.760 --> 1:31:20.160 I see them maybe securing a wildcard spot. Maybe that's 1:31:20.160 --> 1:31:22.280 me my Homer glasses on, but that's what I predicted. 1:31:23.080 --> 1:31:24.439 All right, Jack, what do you think. I know you're 1:31:24.479 --> 1:31:25.439 chopping at the bid here. 1:31:25.880 --> 1:31:28.760 Well, I agree with ten and seven. I think it 1:31:28.800 --> 1:31:33.280 does depend on how receivers like Taikewan Thornton and Juju 1:31:33.320 --> 1:31:35.839 perform though to help Mac with more weapons on offense. 1:31:36.080 --> 1:31:38.360 But I think if they can perform the way they should, 1:31:38.760 --> 1:31:42.120 then ten and seven is a very realistic record for 1:31:42.160 --> 1:31:43.000 them at the end of the season. 1:31:43.080 --> 1:31:46.360 All right, maya any thoughts along those same lines. Are 1:31:46.360 --> 1:31:47.240 you gonna go differently? 1:31:47.960 --> 1:31:50.040 I have similar thoughts. I do think it could be 1:31:50.080 --> 1:31:51.519 ten and seven, but I do think there are a 1:31:51.560 --> 1:31:54.080 few games that I was like, I could go either way. 1:31:54.200 --> 1:31:55.320 Tell me where do you think those are? 1:31:55.360 --> 1:31:55.559 Then? 1:31:56.360 --> 1:31:59.120 The Jets, like I was thinking, we could split it 1:31:59.240 --> 1:32:02.560 or we could lose both. And the Cowboys and the Raiders. 1:32:02.760 --> 1:32:04.800 These are two games that I said wins, but I 1:32:04.880 --> 1:32:06.400 could also see that be a loss. 1:32:06.439 --> 1:32:09.639 Okay, all right, so fifty to fifty games in there. 1:32:10.960 --> 1:32:12.600 It kind of leaves you a little bit iffy. But 1:32:12.920 --> 1:32:14.680 it sounds to me then if you're still thinking ten 1:32:14.800 --> 1:32:16.400 seven that they're gonna win their share. 1:32:16.160 --> 1:32:18.680 Of them, Yeah right, yeah, Okay. 1:32:18.600 --> 1:32:19.920 Charlie, you on the same page. 1:32:20.400 --> 1:32:23.760 Well, I'm looking at their win total over under at 1:32:23.800 --> 1:32:24.599 seven and a half. 1:32:25.080 --> 1:32:28.080 But I think are you burying the over on that one? 1:32:28.120 --> 1:32:28.960 Is that what you're telling me? 1:32:29.600 --> 1:32:33.200 I'm not too I'm not too sure about that really. 1:32:33.360 --> 1:32:36.439 I think we're a top four team in the AFC East, 1:32:36.439 --> 1:32:38.160 but that's not enough to get us to playoffs. 1:32:38.200 --> 1:32:38.400 You know. 1:32:39.000 --> 1:32:42.519 We need I'd say maybe even twelve wins if we're 1:32:42.520 --> 1:32:45.639 looking at a wild card spot. So it's another season 1:32:45.680 --> 1:32:47.000 without a playoff birth. 1:32:47.360 --> 1:32:47.840 I don't know. 1:32:47.960 --> 1:32:50.320 I don't know if I can handle it being a 1:32:50.320 --> 1:32:54.440 Patriots fan, I've only seen winning, seeing these missed playoffs. 1:32:55.080 --> 1:32:56.960 If we do it again, I'm not sure if I 1:32:56.960 --> 1:32:59.599 can go through that one more time with this strong 1:32:59.640 --> 1:33:00.360 AFC East. 1:33:01.000 --> 1:33:05.320 Okay, I think you know that. Look, I think it's 1:33:05.360 --> 1:33:08.400 good to be cautious. I mean my initial inclination. I 1:33:08.400 --> 1:33:11.719 think I said this a couple of months ago, before 1:33:12.040 --> 1:33:15.120 one of our offseason shows that we were doing earlier, 1:33:15.160 --> 1:33:17.120 I think before we knew what the schedule was gonna 1:33:17.120 --> 1:33:18.479 look like and how it was going to line up. 1:33:18.720 --> 1:33:20.400 You know, I said, hey, don't be surprised if this 1:33:20.479 --> 1:33:22.800 team goes, you know, eight to nine, nine and eight again, 1:33:22.880 --> 1:33:25.439 because based on the opponent, we knew they're gonna play, 1:33:25.479 --> 1:33:27.479 we just didn't when it was gonna be. Then it 1:33:27.479 --> 1:33:29.120 looked like the schedule is going to be a little 1:33:29.120 --> 1:33:30.640 bit tougher than what it was a year ago. And 1:33:30.680 --> 1:33:32.840 I think obviously that has proven to be true in 1:33:32.840 --> 1:33:37.120 this case. But I'm going strictly on a feel, and 1:33:37.320 --> 1:33:40.240 my feel is is that I think these guys on 1:33:40.280 --> 1:33:43.240 this team and these coaches on this team feel like 1:33:43.280 --> 1:33:46.559 they have something to prove. This is when I'm gonna 1:33:46.600 --> 1:33:49.000 go back to the early two thousands, before you guys 1:33:49.000 --> 1:33:51.400 were evenna glint in your parents' eyeballs here. But I'm 1:33:51.400 --> 1:33:53.920 gonna go back to, you know, the early two thousands 1:33:54.000 --> 1:33:57.960 because those Patriots teams thrived on having a chip on 1:33:57.960 --> 1:33:59.599 their shoulder. We used to call it the old boulder 1:33:59.640 --> 1:34:03.599 on the show. You know, they really were motivated by 1:34:03.680 --> 1:34:06.639 what other people thought they couldn't or wouldn't or never 1:34:06.760 --> 1:34:09.599 would do. And I think we're gonna get a little 1:34:09.680 --> 1:34:12.439 bit of that this year because I think there are 1:34:12.439 --> 1:34:14.360 a lot of doubting thomas Is out there, and so 1:34:14.439 --> 1:34:16.760 I think that will especially on the offensive side of 1:34:16.760 --> 1:34:18.920 the wall, because I think they know that people are 1:34:18.920 --> 1:34:21.519 gonna really scrutinize over them because they were so bad 1:34:21.640 --> 1:34:23.919 last year. I mean it was it was a struggle 1:34:23.960 --> 1:34:25.559 to watch them offensively a year. 1:34:25.800 --> 1:34:26.839 It was not good football. 1:34:26.960 --> 1:34:29.200 No it wasn't. And I think we're gonna all admit that. 1:34:29.840 --> 1:34:32.479 And frankly, that keeps me from you know, going over 1:34:32.520 --> 1:34:34.880 the top even further and sent you know, eleven and six, 1:34:34.920 --> 1:34:36.920 twelve and five. I think, you know, no, I don't 1:34:37.040 --> 1:34:39.880 know if I'm ready to go that far. But I look, 1:34:40.040 --> 1:34:41.880 I'm at ten and seven. I think with a couple 1:34:41.920 --> 1:34:44.280 of breaks, eleven and six, and I think eleven and 1:34:44.320 --> 1:34:46.360 six is gonna have them in the hunt for the 1:34:46.439 --> 1:34:52.479 AFC East. I do because I think Buffalo, New England, Miami, 1:34:52.880 --> 1:34:55.040 New York are gonna beat up on each other. It 1:34:55.120 --> 1:34:59.120 would not shock me to see those four teams go 1:34:59.200 --> 1:35:01.479 three and three against each other. No, not at all. 1:35:01.920 --> 1:35:05.160 It really wouldn't shock me. And you'd say, oh, Buffalo, Well, listen, 1:35:05.320 --> 1:35:07.519 what is Buffalo done. They haven't done anything, got worse. 1:35:08.000 --> 1:35:10.080 I'm listening. I could think you could make that argument. 1:35:10.360 --> 1:35:12.160 I really do. I think Buffalo in terms of what 1:35:12.160 --> 1:35:14.360 they've lost on the defensive side and some pieces on 1:35:14.360 --> 1:35:16.640 the offensive side as well. Nahim Heines being out for 1:35:16.680 --> 1:35:18.639 the year, Yeah, I think I think they've gotten worse. 1:35:19.080 --> 1:35:21.120 I mean, their situation is. I don't think they're as 1:35:21.120 --> 1:35:22.080 deep as they were last year. 1:35:22.120 --> 1:35:23.960 I think they're coming back to the pack just a 1:35:23.960 --> 1:35:26.400 little bit, just a little bit. They still deserve to 1:35:26.400 --> 1:35:29.240 be the favorite. I would still make them the favorite 1:35:29.320 --> 1:35:31.400 because based on paper, where they've been and what they've 1:35:31.439 --> 1:35:33.160 done over the last three years, they deserve to be 1:35:33.200 --> 1:35:35.880 on top. I'm a proponent of, Hey, you're king until 1:35:35.920 --> 1:35:38.559 you're removed from the you know, from the seat, right, 1:35:38.960 --> 1:35:40.920 That's what I think. Tell you, you know, knock off the 1:35:41.000 --> 1:35:42.479 king of the hill. The king is still the king. 1:35:42.560 --> 1:35:44.240 I think as long as Josh Allen and Digs are there, 1:35:44.280 --> 1:35:46.080 they're the king. Yeah, you can't. You can't stop that. 1:35:46.120 --> 1:35:48.320 Nobody can stop that. Do There's no answer for it? 1:35:48.439 --> 1:35:51.080 No, I think that's true. But let's let's this is 1:35:51.120 --> 1:35:54.559 why we have to play the games right, right, so 1:35:56.479 --> 1:36:02.080 we kind of gotten our records in here postseason, Yes, no, indifferent. 1:36:02.120 --> 1:36:02.759 What are you thinking. 1:36:04.360 --> 1:36:06.559 I'm looking at the last two weeks of the season, 1:36:06.720 --> 1:36:09.400 having to face the Bills and Jets. That's gonna be 1:36:09.479 --> 1:36:12.519 two crucial weeks if everything goes right. I think there's 1:36:12.520 --> 1:36:14.280 a lot of things that have to go the Patriots 1:36:14.320 --> 1:36:16.840 way to get a chance at that last wildcard spot. 1:36:16.960 --> 1:36:21.439 Yeah, I can't argue with that. I think at ten 1:36:21.479 --> 1:36:23.920 and seven you make a wild card. I think anything 1:36:23.960 --> 1:36:26.519 short of that nine and eight probably isn't gonna be 1:36:26.560 --> 1:36:28.679 good enough this year. I know it was last year. 1:36:28.720 --> 1:36:30.240 I don't know that it's good enough. I don't think 1:36:30.280 --> 1:36:32.559 you can count on that eleven and six you're showing 1:36:32.600 --> 1:36:34.639 and like I said, eleven and six, you may even 1:36:34.640 --> 1:36:35.799 tie for the division title. 1:36:36.160 --> 1:36:37.920 What do you think, Kurrent No, I mean, I completely 1:36:37.960 --> 1:36:39.840 agree with that. I think anything below ten and seven 1:36:39.840 --> 1:36:41.719 you're not cutting the playoffs this year. This is such 1:36:41.760 --> 1:36:44.800 a competitive, tough division. You're gonna be playing tough teams 1:36:44.840 --> 1:36:46.960 all year long. You're gonna have to at least be 1:36:47.000 --> 1:36:49.040 a couple games over five hundred to make the playoffs. 1:36:49.120 --> 1:36:51.080 Eleven and six, I think you're right. This is gonna 1:36:51.080 --> 1:36:53.200 be a competitive division. No one's gonna be sweeping through 1:36:53.200 --> 1:36:55.000 the division the way the Bills did last year. They 1:36:55.000 --> 1:36:57.679 were claiming games pretty easily. I think, you know, if 1:36:57.880 --> 1:36:59.960 with a tougher division, yeah, I think you could get 1:37:00.000 --> 1:37:02.200 a wildcard spot, you could sneak in there and maybe 1:37:02.280 --> 1:37:03.800 being played for the East. But I think below that 1:37:03.840 --> 1:37:04.479 there's no chance. 1:37:04.720 --> 1:37:06.200 Zach Maya, what do you think? 1:37:07.760 --> 1:37:08.360 I agree? 1:37:08.640 --> 1:37:09.720 I agree. I think that. 1:37:10.680 --> 1:37:12.200 I do think the Dolphins are going to come in 1:37:12.240 --> 1:37:15.160 first in the division this year. Really Yeah, I mean 1:37:15.200 --> 1:37:18.840 the ad, the addition of Jalen Ramsey, and you know, 1:37:18.920 --> 1:37:21.599 with Tyreek and Jalen still on the team, I think 1:37:21.720 --> 1:37:24.240 Tua does have to step up, but I think they 1:37:24.280 --> 1:37:26.680 could definitely have a case for the first in the 1:37:26.720 --> 1:37:31.000 division this year. But I think the Patriots might be 1:37:31.040 --> 1:37:33.719 able to sneak in a wild card spot this year. 1:37:33.760 --> 1:37:35.840 I think within the next two three years for sure 1:37:36.160 --> 1:37:39.280 they will be a playoff team again. I think it's 1:37:39.280 --> 1:37:40.479 going to have to come with a little bit of 1:37:40.520 --> 1:37:42.719 time with their youngsters still having to evolve. 1:37:43.000 --> 1:37:46.280 Okay, all right, Maya, I show you a smile when 1:37:46.280 --> 1:37:48.240 he said when he said dolphins. So I'm just kind 1:37:48.240 --> 1:37:49.320 of curious what you think there. 1:37:49.880 --> 1:37:51.400 I do think it is going to be tough for 1:37:51.439 --> 1:37:53.360 them to reach the postseason and get a wild card, 1:37:53.400 --> 1:37:55.800 but I do think it is possible if they get 1:37:55.960 --> 1:37:58.320 as you guys said of like ten and seven were above. 1:37:58.520 --> 1:38:01.200 Yeah, so that would put him in there, right, Yeah, Okay, 1:38:01.320 --> 1:38:03.439 let's go to the phones. Eight five to five, Pats 1:38:03.479 --> 1:38:07.320 five hundred. Sasha is in southee kind enough to hang on, Hi, Sasha, 1:38:07.400 --> 1:38:08.160 you're in the playbook. 1:38:09.040 --> 1:38:10.040 Oh yeah, what's up, John? 1:38:10.080 --> 1:38:10.559 How you doing? 1:38:10.680 --> 1:38:14.240 Thanks for having me on? Yeah, sure, I just I 1:38:14.320 --> 1:38:16.479 wanted to talk about I don't know if you've talked 1:38:16.479 --> 1:38:18.160 about this yet, but I think it's kind of an 1:38:18.240 --> 1:38:21.360 underrated storyline of the off season is that, you know, 1:38:21.400 --> 1:38:25.200 I think arguably our best defensive player and offensive player 1:38:25.240 --> 1:38:28.080 are both free agents next year in Kyle Duger and 1:38:28.120 --> 1:38:30.879 mike on Wendon, and we haven't I haven't heard anything 1:38:31.560 --> 1:38:35.320 about extensions for either, and I just I'm kind of 1:38:35.360 --> 1:38:38.320 worried that Bill is taking it too slow when we 1:38:38.400 --> 1:38:41.519 might lose something Like I'm really high on Kyle Duger. 1:38:41.560 --> 1:38:44.240 I think he's one of the best play making safeties 1:38:44.240 --> 1:38:47.519 in the NFL, and that's someone who I think we 1:38:47.640 --> 1:38:50.559 really have to make a big effort to keep. So 1:38:50.720 --> 1:38:52.280 I don't know what you guys think about that. 1:38:52.400 --> 1:38:55.200 Well, I'll lead off with that one. I will tell 1:38:55.240 --> 1:38:57.759 you that I think that they're already talking about it internally. 1:38:57.880 --> 1:38:59.640 They're not gonna They're not gonna play their hand. They 1:38:59.640 --> 1:39:01.280 aren't going to show their hand here to kind of 1:39:01.360 --> 1:39:03.720 keeping the cards closed to the vest. But I think 1:39:03.720 --> 1:39:07.000 they both realize. I think everybody realizes that, you know, 1:39:07.080 --> 1:39:11.680 those two guys could very easily be, you know, part 1:39:11.720 --> 1:39:13.639 of the backbone of this franchise for a few years 1:39:13.680 --> 1:39:16.479 to come, and I think we'll probably see that as 1:39:16.520 --> 1:39:18.800 the season unfolds. You know, when you I think we 1:39:18.800 --> 1:39:20.559 can realize is probably one of the best guards in 1:39:20.560 --> 1:39:24.160 the NFL. Now, so you know, once he returns off 1:39:24.200 --> 1:39:26.799 of the pup, which is what he started on today 1:39:26.840 --> 1:39:29.840 for the first day of practice, then you know, I 1:39:29.840 --> 1:39:32.120 wouldn't be at all surprised to see this be a 1:39:32.160 --> 1:39:34.160 deal that just gets done under the table and gets 1:39:34.200 --> 1:39:36.360 you know, without a whole lot of fanfare, and hopefully 1:39:36.400 --> 1:39:38.320 they have something to announce before all of a sudden 1:39:38.400 --> 1:39:43.000 done Dougger. In all honesty, I you know, unless something 1:39:43.040 --> 1:39:45.439 is already done, I can see them waiting a little 1:39:45.479 --> 1:39:48.640 longer on Dougger. And I'll tell you why, because I 1:39:48.640 --> 1:39:50.880 think they feel like Mapu's a guy that might come 1:39:50.880 --> 1:39:54.120 in and he could do that what Dougger's doing, maybe 1:39:54.120 --> 1:39:56.880 for less money because of his rookie contract. I don't 1:39:56.880 --> 1:40:00.880 think that means that they are undervaluing Dugger, but I 1:40:00.920 --> 1:40:03.320 think they just mean, look, we need to do what 1:40:03.479 --> 1:40:05.600 is the best in the best interest of the franchise 1:40:05.600 --> 1:40:08.080 first and foremost, and if Duggart's gonna go out and 1:40:08.120 --> 1:40:11.360 command a ton of money, then maybe we still already 1:40:11.360 --> 1:40:12.599 have the replacement already in house. 1:40:12.640 --> 1:40:12.840 Now. 1:40:13.439 --> 1:40:15.200 The other side of that is is, well, maybe we 1:40:15.280 --> 1:40:17.000 try to resent the guy before he goes out and 1:40:17.040 --> 1:40:19.320 blows everybody away this year, and then we get him 1:40:19.320 --> 1:40:21.160 for pennies on the dollar. See what I'm saying. 1:40:22.040 --> 1:40:26.040 Yeah, I think that. I don't. I don't think having 1:40:26.280 --> 1:40:30.120 Marte is an excuse to not keep Douger. I don't 1:40:30.160 --> 1:40:32.679 see like a problem with having you know, two really 1:40:33.240 --> 1:40:37.000 like elite safeties. But I guess I think that's kind 1:40:37.040 --> 1:40:39.559 of what Bill wanted to do, like in a lot 1:40:39.600 --> 1:40:42.240 of places with this draft, where he kind of outside 1:40:42.240 --> 1:40:45.240 of Gonzales in the first round, he really drafted for 1:40:45.439 --> 1:40:50.920 needs for next year, like White, Martin Marte obviously, and 1:40:50.960 --> 1:40:54.599 then City, Sow and MASSI were there certain like non 1:40:54.680 --> 1:40:57.559 needs that are going to help a team in three, 1:40:57.640 --> 1:41:01.160 but more or less like going forward instead. 1:41:00.840 --> 1:41:01.559 Of for now. 1:41:01.800 --> 1:41:04.560 Okay, all right, guys, you want to comment on that 1:41:04.680 --> 1:41:05.080 either way? 1:41:05.160 --> 1:41:06.680 No, I think I agree, And that's part of why 1:41:06.680 --> 1:41:08.479 I like the map Who pick so much. I think 1:41:08.600 --> 1:41:11.719 he adds this very similar presence to Dugger. He's versatile, 1:41:11.760 --> 1:41:13.920 he goes all over the field, he's fast, he can cover, 1:41:14.040 --> 1:41:16.960 he can rush the passer. I think he's a great addition. 1:41:17.000 --> 1:41:18.360 And I think if you have mop who gro out 1:41:18.400 --> 1:41:20.360 this year, he plays a good game. You can point 1:41:20.439 --> 1:41:22.120 to him and be like, you know, yeah, we want 1:41:22.120 --> 1:41:23.880 to pay you dugger, But we also got this guy 1:41:24.040 --> 1:41:25.760 doing this, and that can bring Darker's value down a 1:41:25.800 --> 1:41:28.800 little bit, you know. So I think I think Mapu 1:41:28.840 --> 1:41:30.639 is a great pick for so many reasons. And I think, yeah, 1:41:30.680 --> 1:41:32.640 Owenu is a huge to keep. He's one of the 1:41:32.680 --> 1:41:35.400 best guards in the league. His pro football focus is 1:41:35.439 --> 1:41:37.240 off the charts, and he can play all over the line. 1:41:37.280 --> 1:41:40.439 He's hugely valuable, especially on a really thin line right now. 1:41:40.560 --> 1:41:42.160 So I think it's yeah. I would hope they would 1:41:42.160 --> 1:41:44.320 get something done under the table, not a lot of fanfare. 1:41:44.479 --> 1:41:46.839 It would be nice to move forward this year, especially 1:41:47.000 --> 1:41:48.880 having him signed, knowing he's a key piece of a 1:41:49.000 --> 1:41:51.080 line because the line is so shaky right now, so 1:41:51.120 --> 1:41:53.200 having him secured for a few years, I think it's huge. 1:41:53.280 --> 1:41:58.080 Yeah, anybody else want to chime in on that one? No, 1:41:59.040 --> 1:42:02.200 you're good with that? Shall share anything else? 1:42:04.720 --> 1:42:05.040 I don't. 1:42:05.120 --> 1:42:06.760 I know a lot of people in the first hour, 1:42:06.840 --> 1:42:10.200 like the panel was pretty negative about like how the 1:42:10.560 --> 1:42:11.439 record's gonna. 1:42:11.240 --> 1:42:13.160 Be what the what the hell will they know? They're 1:42:13.160 --> 1:42:14.680 just a bunch of kids. 1:42:14.800 --> 1:42:18.400 Yeah, I'm definitely closer to you, John, I think it's 1:42:18.439 --> 1:42:21.200 probably I think eleven and eleven and six is a 1:42:21.200 --> 1:42:24.919 bit over zealous, but I think it's I'd be stunned 1:42:24.920 --> 1:42:27.320 if we got left and eight wins, So I think 1:42:27.320 --> 1:42:29.160 it's probably a nine or ten win win team for 1:42:29.200 --> 1:42:29.559 this year. 1:42:29.640 --> 1:42:31.800 Well, if you want to make the postseason, you'd better 1:42:31.840 --> 1:42:35.320 be a ten. Yeah, yeah, you'd better. You'd better be 1:42:35.360 --> 1:42:35.679 a ten. 1:42:37.040 --> 1:42:39.800 I think the problem is going to be the the 1:42:39.880 --> 1:42:43.800 AFCs is I think too good. So I think we'll 1:42:43.800 --> 1:42:44.799 have a winning record. 1:42:44.880 --> 1:42:45.559 I don't know. 1:42:45.760 --> 1:42:47.840 I'm I don't know about the playoffs, so I think 1:42:47.840 --> 1:42:51.519 it might be pushing it because I just if we 1:42:51.800 --> 1:42:54.240 if we had ended up signing or trading for like 1:42:54.280 --> 1:42:59.519 a legit like threat in the passing game, I'd be 1:42:59.560 --> 1:43:02.960 feeling much more confident. But I like Juju, I like 1:43:03.520 --> 1:43:08.040 Kendrick Bourne, like I think they're good second and third receivers. 1:43:08.120 --> 1:43:11.559 But I don't know nobody. I don't think anybody outside 1:43:11.600 --> 1:43:15.080 of Ramandre on the Patriots, like in our passing game 1:43:15.160 --> 1:43:16.000 with Scar anybody. 1:43:16.000 --> 1:43:17.720 Well, that's why I actually wanted them to go out 1:43:17.760 --> 1:43:20.040 and get Dalvin Cook. I was very and have been 1:43:20.160 --> 1:43:21.920 very much a proponent with that, because I think he 1:43:21.960 --> 1:43:24.000 could be that kind of guy, that change of pace guy, 1:43:24.200 --> 1:43:26.720 that could be, you know, the backup to Remondre if 1:43:26.720 --> 1:43:28.920 he's willing to accept that role. And we don't know that, 1:43:29.240 --> 1:43:31.040 but clearly he knows how to catch and run with 1:43:31.080 --> 1:43:35.160 the football, and I think that would be dynamic in 1:43:35.240 --> 1:43:38.120 the offensive backfield if they decided to go that route. 1:43:38.160 --> 1:43:40.880 And it sounds to me like you're kind of like me, Sage. 1:43:40.880 --> 1:43:42.840 I really wanted them to go out and get d 1:43:42.920 --> 1:43:45.360 Hop and they just, you know, for whatever reason, he 1:43:45.479 --> 1:43:47.439 just wasn't gonna fit here. And I think we can 1:43:47.479 --> 1:43:49.479 probably all really kind of see the forest for the 1:43:49.520 --> 1:43:52.519 trees on that one and just say, you know, and 1:43:52.600 --> 1:43:54.760 been a great practicer and blah blah blah, and there's 1:43:54.800 --> 1:43:58.400 this mutual admiration society between him and Bill and YadA YadA. 1:43:58.439 --> 1:44:01.040 But you know, dude, if he's not a practice and 1:44:01.120 --> 1:44:02.559 you know, you got to practice here. If you don't 1:44:02.600 --> 1:44:04.439 buy into the Patriot way, we don't want you. And 1:44:04.720 --> 1:44:06.200 that's just the way it is, right. 1:44:06.680 --> 1:44:09.800 I don't see how Phil and a guy who basically 1:44:09.840 --> 1:44:12.439 takes every Wednesday off are gonna mash that well out. 1:44:12.520 --> 1:44:14.400 Yeah, I just yeah. 1:44:14.520 --> 1:44:17.200 I mean, now it's different if you have a mutual 1:44:17.240 --> 1:44:19.320 understanding you're taking a day off because they're trying to 1:44:19.400 --> 1:44:22.280 keep you healthy, that I think is a completely different story. 1:44:22.439 --> 1:44:24.240 But I think everybody, when you first come to a 1:44:24.240 --> 1:44:25.720 team for the first time, you got to show that 1:44:25.760 --> 1:44:27.800 you willing to bust some tale. All right, come in 1:44:27.880 --> 1:44:29.720 here and bust some tale, and then maybe you get 1:44:29.720 --> 1:44:31.880 a favor or two if you need it, especially if 1:44:31.880 --> 1:44:33.920 you're you know, if you need to stay healthy for 1:44:33.960 --> 1:44:36.400 the long haul, because you've got extraordinary talent that your 1:44:36.400 --> 1:44:37.599 team needs out on the field. 1:44:37.680 --> 1:44:37.920 Right. 1:44:38.400 --> 1:44:41.120 So, I just don't know. If it was a fit, 1:44:41.200 --> 1:44:43.840 I would loved it. But you know, right now, to me, 1:44:44.600 --> 1:44:47.040 I think they're pretty good at widout. Could they use 1:44:47.080 --> 1:44:49.320 somebody else? Well, yeah, I can always use it, But 1:44:49.360 --> 1:44:51.639 I'm not sure that you know anybody they could really use. 1:44:52.000 --> 1:44:55.320 You know, is any is that much better from an 1:44:55.320 --> 1:44:58.439 availability standpoint that is going to be able to beat 1:44:58.479 --> 1:45:00.360 out who they already have. To me, I'd like to 1:45:00.400 --> 1:45:02.000 see them go out and get a guy like Cook 1:45:02.280 --> 1:45:03.800 and see if they can't make it a little bit 1:45:03.840 --> 1:45:06.120 better with the offensive backfield. I think that will be 1:45:06.120 --> 1:45:09.080 a dynamic option for them should they decide to go 1:45:09.200 --> 1:45:09.679 that route. 1:45:11.080 --> 1:45:12.599 Yeah, I mean, I fully agree with you. I think 1:45:12.680 --> 1:45:15.560 Cook does add that layer of like a dynamic, explosive 1:45:16.040 --> 1:45:18.200 guy on this offense. And if you're a defensive coordinator 1:45:18.240 --> 1:45:21.120 looking at this team, like who do you who are 1:45:21.120 --> 1:45:23.040 you scared about? Who are you game planning around? There's 1:45:23.040 --> 1:45:25.240 not that guy? Yeah, and I think you know, yeah, 1:45:25.280 --> 1:45:26.880 you can say what you want about how de hopo 1:45:26.880 --> 1:45:28.880 and messed with Patriots culture if you have him on 1:45:28.920 --> 1:45:31.240 your team and you're a defensive opposing defensive coordinator. D 1:45:31.320 --> 1:45:32.920 Hops the guy that you're afraid of, right, He's the 1:45:32.920 --> 1:45:35.080 guy you're planning around. And I think Kendrick Bourne and 1:45:35.160 --> 1:45:37.599 Juju are a great wide receiver twos and they're great 1:45:37.600 --> 1:45:39.559 to compliment a guy like d Hop and that opens 1:45:39.640 --> 1:45:41.160 up the game from back to find them and get 1:45:41.160 --> 1:45:43.360 them underneath and all that. So I think you do 1:45:43.400 --> 1:45:45.680 feel better about this team with d Hop And that's 1:45:45.680 --> 1:45:47.439 what kind of frustrated me when we weren't able to 1:45:47.479 --> 1:45:49.360 land them, because now I'm looking at this team and yeah, 1:45:49.360 --> 1:45:51.080 we got some good death, but who are you playing around? 1:45:51.080 --> 1:45:53.360 Who's explosive on this team? You don't have that guy? 1:45:53.520 --> 1:45:56.719 Right all right back to the phones. Jody's in Atlanta. Hey, Jody, 1:45:56.720 --> 1:45:57.519 you're in the playbook. 1:45:58.560 --> 1:45:59.479 Hey, what's going on, guys? 1:45:59.520 --> 1:46:00.320 How you doing? 1:46:00.840 --> 1:46:01.040 Yeah? 1:46:01.160 --> 1:46:01.559 Doing good. 1:46:01.680 --> 1:46:03.160 I just had a couple of points I wanted to 1:46:03.200 --> 1:46:05.400 bring up. One of the things that you guys talked 1:46:05.400 --> 1:46:07.400 about in the first hour was Bill Belichick on the 1:46:07.439 --> 1:46:11.000 hot seat. Personally, I do not want to see that whatsoever. 1:46:11.880 --> 1:46:16.360 I want to Uh, people don't talk about the flip. 1:46:16.120 --> 1:46:18.960 Side of it of him breaking the record with another team. 1:46:19.520 --> 1:46:21.519 I just don't want to see that, you know. I'd 1:46:21.640 --> 1:46:24.120 rather stick out, even if we have a couple of 1:46:24.160 --> 1:46:27.799 rough seasons, go ahead and solidify that. In Plus, nobody 1:46:27.840 --> 1:46:29.440 knows more football than Bill Belichick. 1:46:29.800 --> 1:46:31.120 He's a terrible. 1:46:30.840 --> 1:46:34.280 GM if everybody that and I don't really like his 1:46:34.479 --> 1:46:37.439 uh you know, draft sticks typically these last, you know, 1:46:37.439 --> 1:46:40.240 a couple of seasons or so. But I mean, this 1:46:40.320 --> 1:46:44.400 year was pretty good. But I just I don't want 1:46:44.439 --> 1:46:46.439 to see him go anywhere until that record is broken. 1:46:46.479 --> 1:46:48.720 I'd rather I'd rather just have him with us, you 1:46:48.760 --> 1:46:52.720 know what I mean. And then as far as like 1:46:53.080 --> 1:46:56.160 everybody just is going ahead and just given the Jets 1:46:56.200 --> 1:46:58.760 the pedestal of just like they're gonna be this stuff team. 1:46:59.000 --> 1:47:02.200 Everybody also thought that the division with the Raiders and 1:47:02.240 --> 1:47:04.920 the Chiefs and the Broncos, that was going to be 1:47:04.920 --> 1:47:07.960 the loaded division, and he got the Chargers too, but 1:47:08.360 --> 1:47:10.280 that didn't pan out that way. That's the vision ended 1:47:10.320 --> 1:47:12.120 up not being that tough. Yeah, And I can totally 1:47:12.160 --> 1:47:14.320 see that happen with the Jets just kind of falling through. 1:47:15.000 --> 1:47:17.000 I think Buffalo took a step back. So I mean, 1:47:17.120 --> 1:47:17.960 anything can happen. 1:47:19.560 --> 1:47:22.720 Okay, any thoughts, guys one way or the other. I mean, 1:47:23.800 --> 1:47:26.080 anybody want to agree, anybody want to disagree? What do 1:47:26.120 --> 1:47:26.479 you think? 1:47:26.840 --> 1:47:29.120 What do you think, Charlie Well, I think this is 1:47:29.200 --> 1:47:32.120 really the season that everything should come together for the 1:47:32.160 --> 1:47:35.200 new era of the Patriots post Brady. We've gotten a 1:47:35.240 --> 1:47:38.880 couple of years. I think they outperformed expectations by making 1:47:38.920 --> 1:47:42.599 playoffs that first year with rookie mac Jones. But now 1:47:42.760 --> 1:47:47.080 new offensive coordinator, and we got a bunch of leaders 1:47:47.120 --> 1:47:50.599 like Matthew Slater and David Andrews who are just tired 1:47:50.640 --> 1:47:52.320 of losing and they want to get back to their 1:47:52.360 --> 1:47:54.320 winning ways. So I think this is the season where 1:47:54.320 --> 1:47:55.480 it all comes together. 1:47:55.280 --> 1:47:57.519 All right. I like that, Zach, what do you think? 1:48:00.160 --> 1:48:05.840 I agree with everything Charlie just said, and I think 1:48:06.120 --> 1:48:08.800 this is one of the years post Brady where mac 1:48:08.880 --> 1:48:13.479 Jones doesn't have too much of an excuse, where if 1:48:13.520 --> 1:48:17.479 he doesn't perform to a high level, he doesn't have 1:48:17.520 --> 1:48:19.960 as much of an excuse. This year, he has guys 1:48:19.960 --> 1:48:22.080 he can throw to more than he has in the 1:48:22.120 --> 1:48:24.200 past couple of years. And I think this is one 1:48:24.200 --> 1:48:26.879 of the years where we could see the most elite 1:48:26.920 --> 1:48:29.679 Mac Jones, but he doesn't have an excuse to fall 1:48:29.720 --> 1:48:31.519 back to if he doesn't perform this year. 1:48:31.640 --> 1:48:34.680 Okay, maya any thoughts. You've been smiling through all of this, 1:48:34.720 --> 1:48:35.920 so I know you got something there. 1:48:36.320 --> 1:48:39.120 I agree that I think mac Jones is probably going 1:48:39.160 --> 1:48:41.599 to do better this year, also with a new offensive coach. 1:48:42.240 --> 1:48:44.479 Yeah, I think it's big. I think having that you know, 1:48:44.600 --> 1:48:48.240 somebody who knows how he feels, knows how he acts, 1:48:48.240 --> 1:48:52.040 knows his tendencies, you know, just knows him period. 1:48:52.080 --> 1:48:52.240 You know. 1:48:52.320 --> 1:48:54.280 I mean there is a working knowledge there between the 1:48:54.280 --> 1:48:56.880 two even though they never coach played at Alabama together, 1:48:56.920 --> 1:48:58.519 but there is still that familiarity, right. 1:48:58.720 --> 1:49:01.120 Yeah, And I think I think one thing that Jody, 1:49:01.240 --> 1:49:02.720 sorry to cut you off there, but one thing you 1:49:02.760 --> 1:49:04.439 touched on was that the division might not pan out 1:49:04.479 --> 1:49:06.960 the way people expected, the way it did with the AFC. Westlester, 1:49:07.280 --> 1:49:09.320 I can totally see that that's very feasible. I mean, 1:49:09.439 --> 1:49:11.720 the Dolphins have struggled a lot with health issues over 1:49:11.720 --> 1:49:14.400 the past couple of years. Aaron Rodgers, I mean, I 1:49:14.439 --> 1:49:16.080 know he's great. I know he's got a great history, 1:49:16.080 --> 1:49:18.360 But you'd be lying if you said he wasn't a 1:49:18.360 --> 1:49:20.760 little crazy these days. He wasn't a little he wasn't 1:49:20.760 --> 1:49:22.559 a little off the rails these days, and you're lying 1:49:22.560 --> 1:49:24.800 to yourself or you're lying to somebody else. But so 1:49:24.960 --> 1:49:26.720 I think there's a very real chance that we could 1:49:26.760 --> 1:49:29.439 see the Jets the Dolphins like not not play the 1:49:29.439 --> 1:49:31.080 way that we think we expect him to be, not 1:49:31.160 --> 1:49:33.280 be this juggernaut that we're all seeing them for. I 1:49:33.280 --> 1:49:35.559 think you're right, there's a chance this division doesn't pan out. 1:49:35.720 --> 1:49:37.400 I don't know if it's a high chance, but I 1:49:37.439 --> 1:49:39.640 wouldn't say it's not existing. There is there is a 1:49:39.680 --> 1:49:42.080 possibility this division is not what we think it is. 1:49:42.360 --> 1:49:44.400 And if that's true, and the Patriots played what we 1:49:44.439 --> 1:49:46.240 think they can, there's a chance that they can blow 1:49:46.240 --> 1:49:46.719 people away. 1:49:46.840 --> 1:49:49.360 Yeah, Jody, what do you think what else you got? 1:49:49.960 --> 1:49:52.240 Yeah, I was also gonna say, I mean, we all 1:49:52.280 --> 1:49:54.320 know having a number one receiver is gonna be like 1:49:54.439 --> 1:49:57.240 extremely helpful for the team. But the other flip side 1:49:57.280 --> 1:50:00.719 to that is, I guess there's nobody that the defensive 1:50:00.720 --> 1:50:04.360 coordinators are scared of. But that also gives Bill O'Brien 1:50:04.520 --> 1:50:07.840 just like versatility to kind of game plan week to 1:50:07.920 --> 1:50:11.200 week and the defense not necessarily gonna know which direction 1:50:11.280 --> 1:50:15.639 you're gonna go, because I mean, like credit to the 1:50:15.800 --> 1:50:19.360 Cam Newton gear. I mean, that roster was terrible and 1:50:19.400 --> 1:50:21.559 they still were able to squeak out that many wins. 1:50:21.600 --> 1:50:24.840 I think it was seven wins that season. Yeah, but 1:50:25.880 --> 1:50:29.080 I mean they actually have a NFL roster at the 1:50:29.160 --> 1:50:29.960 receiving corpse. 1:50:30.080 --> 1:50:30.280 Now. 1:50:30.640 --> 1:50:33.000 I mean they may not be the number ones that 1:50:33.200 --> 1:50:37.200 some of the other teams have, but they have NFL receivers. 1:50:37.400 --> 1:50:40.160 So Bill o brian's gonna be able to scheme people open, 1:50:40.240 --> 1:50:43.599 he's gonna be able to make plays and that maybe 1:50:43.640 --> 1:50:45.439 other coordinators might not be able to do with those 1:50:45.520 --> 1:50:47.479 kind of players. So I don't know, there's always that 1:50:47.640 --> 1:50:49.920 upside to it too. It's just a little bit of 1:50:50.080 --> 1:50:52.040 being able to camouflage, which's gonna do every week. 1:50:52.160 --> 1:50:55.000 Right, Okay, so what do you think so you're a 1:50:55.040 --> 1:50:57.880 little bit more optimistic in terms of the one loss 1:50:57.920 --> 1:50:59.880 record as well? Let me ask you another question so 1:51:00.040 --> 1:51:02.559 I can lead into the guys with this one. Do 1:51:02.640 --> 1:51:05.120 you think coach Belichick is on the hot seat and 1:51:05.160 --> 1:51:05.760 should he be? 1:51:07.120 --> 1:51:07.200 No? 1:51:07.360 --> 1:51:08.639 I don't, I think. 1:51:09.040 --> 1:51:10.640 I mean, I think he's definitely. 1:51:10.360 --> 1:51:12.920 Under some pressure to perform, and I don't think they 1:51:12.920 --> 1:51:17.200 can go anything under seven wins without him being really 1:51:17.240 --> 1:51:20.160 on on the hot seat. If something terrible like that happens, 1:51:20.200 --> 1:51:23.320 then you know, maybe, But I think Robert Craft wants 1:51:23.360 --> 1:51:26.040 to give him the opportunity. I think Robert Craft I 1:51:26.160 --> 1:51:28.599 also would like to have that title, you know, of 1:51:28.640 --> 1:51:31.320 the most the winning his coach, and most of those 1:51:31.360 --> 1:51:35.519 wins coming with the Patriots organization, So you know, I 1:51:35.960 --> 1:51:37.720 think they give him a couple more seasons to let 1:51:37.800 --> 1:51:39.080 him try to write it out and kind of see 1:51:39.080 --> 1:51:41.840 where they go from there. And also everybody's saying, you know, 1:51:42.360 --> 1:51:44.160 get a new head coach. I just kind of say, 1:51:44.160 --> 1:51:46.560 put a name to the claim, like who do you 1:51:46.880 --> 1:51:49.160 want a new head coach who's going to be a 1:51:49.160 --> 1:51:52.000 better football coach than Bill Belichick right now, I mean. 1:51:51.920 --> 1:51:54.679 Our media, our media here seems to think that Gerd 1:51:54.760 --> 1:51:57.400 Mayo has been anointed as the next head coach. I'm 1:51:57.400 --> 1:52:00.160 not convinced to that. And I love Drudd. Okay, I 1:52:00.200 --> 1:52:02.800 love Girod. Let me let me be very clear about that, 1:52:02.880 --> 1:52:06.000 and I think he mean an outstanding coach. I'm not sold. 1:52:06.080 --> 1:52:08.760 Given the set of circumstances at the time that this 1:52:08.880 --> 1:52:12.559 comes about, I'm not sold he's the guy, And quite frankly, 1:52:12.640 --> 1:52:14.479 I think the guy right now with a little bit 1:52:14.479 --> 1:52:17.439 of an edge over everybody else is Bill O'Brien because 1:52:17.479 --> 1:52:19.920 he's got the head coaching pedigree already. And if the 1:52:19.920 --> 1:52:23.040 Patriots have the success or the kind of success I 1:52:23.080 --> 1:52:27.160 think they could have this year, I could see it, 1:52:27.479 --> 1:52:29.559 if you know, I could definitely see it. 1:52:29.720 --> 1:52:34.719 I mean offensive league and drawn Mao's defensive coach. Yeah, yeah, 1:52:34.800 --> 1:52:36.960 I'm gonna go away from Bill. Are you going to 1:52:37.000 --> 1:52:37.960 go with the same style? 1:52:38.160 --> 1:52:41.200 That's you now you're talking. I could see Bill becoming 1:52:41.200 --> 1:52:43.840 the head coach and Grod being his DC and getting 1:52:43.840 --> 1:52:46.120 his started that way. I could definitely see that. And 1:52:46.160 --> 1:52:47.400 I got to tell you, I think a lot of 1:52:47.400 --> 1:52:48.760 people would be very happy with that. 1:52:48.840 --> 1:52:50.400 I certainly don't hit it, and I think, say what 1:52:50.400 --> 1:52:52.400 you want about how Bill did as a GM and Hewson, 1:52:52.439 --> 1:52:55.200 that's one thing. But Bill O'Brien as a coach in Houston, 1:52:55.240 --> 1:52:57.000 he was great and he got that. Yeah, but about 1:52:57.000 --> 1:52:59.360 that Texans team to the playoffs, but they probably shouldn't 1:52:59.360 --> 1:53:02.280 have been there. I don't think they were that great. Yeah, 1:53:02.360 --> 1:53:04.040 years that he got them to the playoffs with Deshaun 1:53:04.040 --> 1:53:06.559 Watson and Hopkins while they were there, so I was like, 1:53:06.600 --> 1:53:08.240 as long as you don't give up Brian the GM roll, 1:53:08.280 --> 1:53:09.760 I'm happy with him as the head coach. He knows 1:53:09.800 --> 1:53:11.920 is the way around football. He's coached at many levels. 1:53:12.000 --> 1:53:13.760 He definitely can win in this league. He can get 1:53:13.760 --> 1:53:16.200 teams to the playoffs and frankly, a playoff Berth would 1:53:16.200 --> 1:53:17.840 make a lot of people in Mainland happier right now. 1:53:17.960 --> 1:53:20.759 Yep, Jody, thanks for the time today, buddy. 1:53:21.360 --> 1:53:23.400 Absolutely, guys have going Yep, you got. 1:53:23.240 --> 1:53:25.680 It, guys, let me just jump right into it. Then, 1:53:25.800 --> 1:53:29.200 So hot seat is he on it? And why or 1:53:29.240 --> 1:53:31.479 why not should he be on it? I'm gonna start 1:53:31.479 --> 1:53:32.200 with you this time. 1:53:33.160 --> 1:53:35.439 I don't think he's necessarily on the hot seat yet, 1:53:35.479 --> 1:53:37.000 but I do think he has a lot of pressure 1:53:37.040 --> 1:53:39.960 on him because he's made some questionable decisions, like last 1:53:39.960 --> 1:53:43.240 season having Matt Patricia as offensive coach. 1:53:43.520 --> 1:53:50.439 Yeah, it's I mean, what was he thinking. I mean, look, 1:53:51.000 --> 1:53:54.200 you try something, it doesn't work, then you have to 1:53:54.320 --> 1:53:55.720 go to you know, you have to have plan B 1:53:55.760 --> 1:53:57.599 and C ready to go. I don't think he had 1:53:57.640 --> 1:54:00.320 playing B and C ready to go soon enough because 1:54:00.360 --> 1:54:02.519 I don't think he expected to go as south as 1:54:02.560 --> 1:54:05.559 quickly as it did. And I think that's the biggest 1:54:05.760 --> 1:54:08.320 issue that we kind of all have with the realization 1:54:08.439 --> 1:54:10.679 that this was not a good idea. Right, Yeah, Okay, 1:54:10.800 --> 1:54:11.400 what do you think. 1:54:11.320 --> 1:54:15.840 Zach, I think he is on the hot seat. He's 1:54:16.240 --> 1:54:18.400 he's on the hot seat as a GM. As a coach, 1:54:18.880 --> 1:54:20.479 he's one of the greatest coaches of all time. 1:54:20.560 --> 1:54:23.879 Well, let me let me interrupt you. Then if this team, 1:54:24.160 --> 1:54:28.920 you know, because of personnel, fails short of their expected 1:54:28.960 --> 1:54:33.000 goal or their intended goal, could you see maybe this 1:54:33.080 --> 1:54:35.840 team deciding all right, Bill, you're still the coach, but 1:54:35.840 --> 1:54:37.640 we're gonna bring somebody into GM this thing. 1:54:37.920 --> 1:54:41.000 Yes, Yes, I think you know, like I was saying, 1:54:41.040 --> 1:54:43.520 he's one of the greatest coaches of all time. He's 1:54:43.600 --> 1:54:46.080 the reason why Tom Brady is where he is right now. 1:54:46.680 --> 1:54:51.520 He fully created that whole Dynasty team. But as a GM, 1:54:51.960 --> 1:54:54.840 he's made some questionable calls. You know, he's he's had 1:54:54.880 --> 1:54:57.760 a couple of good signs, right like Juju and Hunter Henry, 1:54:57.800 --> 1:55:00.600 but he's missed out on you know you said earlier, 1:55:00.760 --> 1:55:03.200 Dalvin Cook and on d Hop. He didn't go aggressive 1:55:03.320 --> 1:55:07.280 enough and he kind of pulled the plug there. And 1:55:07.480 --> 1:55:12.360 I think, as the GM, wait the end of the season, right, 1:55:12.440 --> 1:55:15.280 see how he does this season, and if the team performs, 1:55:15.720 --> 1:55:18.920 if the team makes a wild card, wait another season, 1:55:18.920 --> 1:55:21.360 see how he does. But if they miss out on 1:55:21.400 --> 1:55:24.480 the postseason this year, I think you take a serious 1:55:24.560 --> 1:55:27.200 look at other GMS, but keep him as a head 1:55:27.200 --> 1:55:29.120 coach because he's still a great head coach. He still 1:55:29.120 --> 1:55:32.040 makes good calls in the field. It's just him as 1:55:32.080 --> 1:55:34.000 a GM. I don't really see it very. 1:55:33.960 --> 1:55:35.320 Long, Charlie, what do you think? 1:55:35.800 --> 1:55:40.800 Well, I think Billichick as a GM this season, he 1:55:40.880 --> 1:55:43.240 seems to have taken a step in the right direction, 1:55:43.720 --> 1:55:48.000 bringing in O'Brien and bringing in Mike Giseki to hopefully 1:55:48.240 --> 1:55:51.240 fix the tight end position. That do what John new 1:55:51.280 --> 1:55:55.280 Smith couldn't provide us. We got tight ends, two tight 1:55:55.360 --> 1:55:58.080 ends who can play. We have Bill O'Brien who was 1:55:58.160 --> 1:56:02.400 the offensive coordinator, and Gronk and Aaron Hernandez. We're going 1:56:02.480 --> 1:56:05.120 through all of their success on the field. So I 1:56:05.240 --> 1:56:08.440 think with the system that they have with Bill O'Brien 1:56:08.480 --> 1:56:13.720 at the helm, Bill Belichick should be in line for 1:56:13.840 --> 1:56:16.760 a good season, bounce back season for the Patriots. But 1:56:16.800 --> 1:56:20.080 would Bill Belichick want to still head coach with and 1:56:20.200 --> 1:56:21.400 give up some of him? 1:56:21.640 --> 1:56:24.040 I don't know. I don't think he would. I personally 1:56:24.080 --> 1:56:24.920 don't think he would. 1:56:24.920 --> 1:56:28.200 No, Yeah, after getting rid of his job as GM 1:56:28.320 --> 1:56:29.880 and head coach, I don't know if you'd want to 1:56:29.880 --> 1:56:30.440 stick around. 1:56:30.520 --> 1:56:32.600 Yeah, you know, Hey, if I can't do both, I 1:56:32.600 --> 1:56:33.360 don't want to do either. 1:56:33.560 --> 1:56:33.760 Yeah. 1:56:34.400 --> 1:56:36.600 You know what, I can't see that I would blame him, 1:56:36.640 --> 1:56:39.800 but you know who knows. I mean, this is we're 1:56:39.840 --> 1:56:42.320 speculating here, and you know I tend to try to 1:56:42.320 --> 1:56:45.120 stay away from that. But it's fun to speculate about 1:56:45.160 --> 1:56:48.680 because I know it's been on the minds of fans everywhere, 1:56:49.320 --> 1:56:51.120 especially with the way this team is taking a little 1:56:51.120 --> 1:56:53.200 bit of a downward turn over the last three four years. 1:56:53.360 --> 1:56:53.600 Kurrent. 1:56:53.640 --> 1:56:54.560 What are your thoughts, man. 1:56:54.480 --> 1:56:56.720 I mean, yeah, I kind of agree with Charlie said 1:56:56.720 --> 1:56:58.400 for the most point, and also what Zach said by 1:56:58.440 --> 1:57:01.120 his GM duties. I mean, I think it's interesting. I 1:57:01.120 --> 1:57:02.840 think the New England media tends to drum up this 1:57:02.920 --> 1:57:04.880 notion of him being on the hot seat more than 1:57:04.920 --> 1:57:07.200 it actually is. We're a little dramatic here in New England, 1:57:07.200 --> 1:57:09.600 but I mean there's been rumors coming out, Oh Craft's 1:57:09.640 --> 1:57:13.080 unhappy or yadiyada'sunhappy with Belichick. I think if being part, 1:57:13.240 --> 1:57:15.440 you know, watching the Dynasty has taught us anything, we 1:57:15.480 --> 1:57:18.040 don't really know what's going on internally in the Patriots organization. 1:57:18.160 --> 1:57:20.320 We can say we do, but for the most part 1:57:20.760 --> 1:57:23.000 that's pretty well hidden. So I think this notion of 1:57:23.040 --> 1:57:25.400 Crap being unhappy with him is a little overplayed. But 1:57:25.600 --> 1:57:26.920 do I think that he should at least be a 1:57:27.000 --> 1:57:29.560 question for how he's done into GM recently. Absolutely. I 1:57:29.600 --> 1:57:31.960 think in terms of play calling, there's nobody out there better. 1:57:31.960 --> 1:57:35.840 He's Bill Belichick. You can't fire Bill Belichick. He is 1:57:36.080 --> 1:57:38.160 the Patriots franchise. When you think of the Patriots franchise, 1:57:38.200 --> 1:57:39.839 you think of Tom Bray, you think of Bill Belichick. 1:57:40.000 --> 1:57:41.720 You don't fire that guy, you don't put that guy 1:57:41.760 --> 1:57:43.600 in the hot seat. But when you take a look 1:57:43.600 --> 1:57:46.120 at his GM duties recently in terms of not getting 1:57:46.200 --> 1:57:48.800 d Hop and you know, I think when people were saying, 1:57:48.840 --> 1:57:50.400 when you missed on d Hop, he put too much 1:57:50.440 --> 1:57:52.560 incentives in the contract, it was too incentive space, Like 1:57:53.720 --> 1:57:56.280 we have so much catnext year, we're missing on receivers 1:57:56.360 --> 1:57:59.600 cousin incentives. Like you gotta have some question marks about 1:57:59.640 --> 1:58:01.520 the team. Want to see them addressed the tackle position. 1:58:01.560 --> 1:58:04.080 They addressed it by getting Calvin Anderson. I don't know 1:58:04.080 --> 1:58:06.040 if that's the answer. So I think, yeah, if this 1:58:06.080 --> 1:58:08.000 team on the performs, you gotta look at it. 1:58:08.080 --> 1:58:12.400 I think, you know, I think Calvin and Calvin Anderson's 1:58:12.400 --> 1:58:15.080 particular instance, and I know's he's not playing right away, 1:58:15.240 --> 1:58:18.520 didn't open with camp today because of a non football injury. 1:58:18.520 --> 1:58:24.280 But they did not make the move that everyone, I 1:58:24.320 --> 1:58:28.320 think most everyone expected them to make because they're happy 1:58:28.360 --> 1:58:31.760 with what they have on the offensive line. Now whatever 1:58:31.800 --> 1:58:35.920 that says, it says. But I think they like Reef, 1:58:36.000 --> 1:58:38.600 I think they like Anderson. I think they like you know, 1:58:38.640 --> 1:58:41.400 the guys that can you know, you know, mix and 1:58:41.440 --> 1:58:44.800 match at the position. I really do, and I think 1:58:44.880 --> 1:58:47.520 that in itself is probably a signal to the team 1:58:47.520 --> 1:58:49.560 in that locker room that you know, hey, guys, we 1:58:49.640 --> 1:58:50.600 got confidence in you. 1:58:50.800 --> 1:58:50.960 Right. 1:58:51.440 --> 1:58:52.840 We want you to know we're not gonna go out 1:58:52.880 --> 1:58:55.200 there and just you know, shop the farm for whatever 1:58:55.360 --> 1:58:58.560 it comes across the way because we like who we have. 1:58:59.080 --> 1:59:02.360 And I think that sometimes you need to do even 1:59:02.360 --> 1:59:04.320 though maybe the better part of valories is the discretion 1:59:04.400 --> 1:59:06.480 and you want to bring somebody in you to cover 1:59:06.520 --> 1:59:08.480 yourself a little bit. But I think that's big in 1:59:08.560 --> 1:59:10.839 terms of team building, right. 1:59:11.040 --> 1:59:13.440 Yes, I agree that it is big, and you should 1:59:13.440 --> 1:59:16.120 have confidence in your team. But at the same time, 1:59:16.480 --> 1:59:19.320 when you're when your offensive line performs as poorly as 1:59:19.320 --> 1:59:20.240 it did last year. 1:59:20.640 --> 1:59:24.280 You still need you still need to make the adjustments. 1:59:24.320 --> 1:59:24.760 Fairpoint. 1:59:25.120 --> 1:59:28.720 He like, like Kuran said, he didn't in the off season, 1:59:29.200 --> 1:59:34.160 and that's a mistake on his part. It is important 1:59:34.440 --> 1:59:38.480 to have confidence, but you also need to understand that 1:59:38.520 --> 1:59:40.760 you have to make adjustments when a part of your 1:59:40.760 --> 1:59:41.920 team performs poorly. 1:59:41.960 --> 1:59:43.880 All right, fair point, guys, Who've got a couple of 1:59:43.920 --> 1:59:45.360 minutes left here on the show, So I want to 1:59:45.360 --> 1:59:48.680 wrap it up with what you think the current greatest 1:59:48.760 --> 1:59:53.360 area of need on the roster is you know again, uh, 1:59:53.440 --> 1:59:56.520 you know today and over the next couple of days 1:59:56.520 --> 2:00:00.360 of practices. It's as I described already a couple times. 2:00:00.400 --> 2:00:03.080 If someone joined in Lake, this is really glorified OTAs 2:00:03.200 --> 2:00:05.760 there's no pads, there's no real competition, there's no real 2:00:06.000 --> 2:00:08.760 contact going on here. That won't start until next week 2:00:08.760 --> 2:00:12.040 at some point. So this is just really a continuation 2:00:12.400 --> 2:00:15.440 of what we saw transpire over the course of the 2:00:15.480 --> 2:00:18.800 spring during you know, all the organized team activities. So 2:00:19.560 --> 2:00:22.520 we kind of know, but do we really know where 2:00:22.560 --> 2:00:25.840 do you identify the greatest area of need going into 2:00:25.880 --> 2:00:29.360 training camp. Let's let's start. Let's start with Charlie. 2:00:29.840 --> 2:00:32.360 Well, I'm looking at the roster, looking at the depth chart, 2:00:32.440 --> 2:00:35.560 and we the biggest gap you see is safety, where 2:00:35.800 --> 2:00:38.839 you lose Devin mccordy, and we haven't really Brian anyone 2:00:39.120 --> 2:00:42.160 to fill that role, fill that role on the field, 2:00:42.480 --> 2:00:46.440 but also in the locker room. Juan Bentley is taking 2:00:46.480 --> 2:00:50.520 over as the signal caller on the field, but we 2:00:50.560 --> 2:00:52.880 still need that veteran presence in the locker room to 2:00:52.920 --> 2:00:55.600 hold down the fort. And I think you could go 2:00:55.680 --> 2:00:58.360 out and find someone who can do both in the 2:00:58.440 --> 2:00:59.600 Devin mccorty type role. 2:01:00.480 --> 2:01:02.600 Just to say, Charlie, I think I completely agree with you. 2:01:02.720 --> 2:01:04.240 I think we're gonna see a lot this year how 2:01:04.560 --> 2:01:07.040 much not having mccordy is gonna impact this team. I mean, 2:01:07.080 --> 2:01:09.800 he was the quintessential leader. And one thing about Devin 2:01:09.840 --> 2:01:13.480 McCarty is he was never in the wrong place on defense. 2:01:13.520 --> 2:01:16.600 That guy knew more football than almost anybody on the planet. 2:01:16.600 --> 2:01:18.200 So I think the loss of him is gonna be 2:01:18.240 --> 2:01:20.240 really noticeable when we look at that secondary this year. 2:01:20.280 --> 2:01:22.400 So he's not an easy guyer of place, but yeah, 2:01:22.440 --> 2:01:23.280 we need to get that done. 2:01:23.520 --> 2:01:24.160 I agree. 2:01:24.560 --> 2:01:25.040 What about you? 2:01:25.120 --> 2:01:25.320 Then? 2:01:26.000 --> 2:01:27.720 I think it goes back to the conversation we just had. 2:01:27.800 --> 2:01:29.880 I think offensive tackles our greatest weakness, and I think 2:01:29.920 --> 2:01:31.720 you're right. He didn't make move because he's happy with 2:01:31.760 --> 2:01:33.800 the personnel that he has. I'm not gonna sit here 2:01:33.800 --> 2:01:35.680 and say I know more football than Bill Belichick because 2:01:35.680 --> 2:01:38.680 that's just goofy. But to me, when I look at 2:01:38.720 --> 2:01:40.120 that team, I look at the depth chart, look at 2:01:40.160 --> 2:01:43.600 the tackles, Anderson Rife, whoever they're rotating McDermott out there, 2:01:43.680 --> 2:01:45.920 I think I saw Bill Murray was getting starting reps 2:01:45.920 --> 2:01:49.520 to day and training camp. I don't know. I don't 2:01:49.520 --> 2:01:50.720 know if I trust that. I don't know if I 2:01:50.720 --> 2:01:52.400 trust that. I was I was hoping to see him 2:01:52.400 --> 2:01:54.440 address that need in the first round. I'm very happy 2:01:54.440 --> 2:01:56.360 the Christian Gonzalez pick, and then I was like, Okay, 2:01:56.400 --> 2:01:58.120 we're gonna address it in the second round, and then 2:01:58.160 --> 2:01:59.560 we did it, and that kind of had me asking 2:01:59.600 --> 2:02:02.840 some questions, right, like is is this the right answer here? 2:02:02.880 --> 2:02:04.800 Like should we just go with Keyong White? Should we 2:02:04.840 --> 2:02:07.280 trust the position? I don't know. From the outside looking in, 2:02:07.400 --> 2:02:10.879 I think tackle, it'll be interesting to see how it shakes, Okay, Zach. 2:02:11.880 --> 2:02:14.839 I agree with Charlie and Kerrent, and I think possibly 2:02:14.840 --> 2:02:17.400 it could also be wide receiver. I mean, you're putting 2:02:17.480 --> 2:02:23.680 your trust in Takwon Thornton, Booty and Juju, right, and. 2:02:23.640 --> 2:02:27.000 Juju we haven't mentioned him all show. It's Kaysehan Boody. 2:02:27.360 --> 2:02:29.160 I want to really see if this guy, you know 2:02:29.280 --> 2:02:31.680 it is worth making the pick, and can he surprise 2:02:31.800 --> 2:02:35.360 people and be the expected, you know, expected big play 2:02:35.440 --> 2:02:37.800 guy that you know they thought he was at LSU. 2:02:37.560 --> 2:02:40.720 Right, right, And we've seen multiple times in history that 2:02:41.680 --> 2:02:45.560 players don't always make a smooth transition between college and NFL. 2:02:45.960 --> 2:02:50.000 So how you know Boody performed in college, that's one thing. 2:02:50.000 --> 2:02:52.000 How he performs in the NFL, it's another thing. NFL 2:02:52.000 --> 2:02:54.320 in college are two different sports. And you're also putting 2:02:54.360 --> 2:02:57.120 your trust in Juju, who has had a couple really 2:02:57.160 --> 2:03:00.920 solid seasons, but it's also had a couple pretty rocky seasons. 2:03:00.920 --> 2:03:03.800 He's a pretty inconsistent player, So it's a little tough 2:03:03.840 --> 2:03:07.000 to put a lot of trust into Juju and into 2:03:07.000 --> 2:03:08.840 Booty Booty just because you haven't seen him in the 2:03:08.880 --> 2:03:12.120 NFL yet. And I think you see at the end 2:03:12.160 --> 2:03:14.680 of the season if your wide receivers were falling up short, 2:03:15.080 --> 2:03:17.320 that's one of your main things you have to fix 2:03:17.360 --> 2:03:19.600 in the off season. But there is also a very 2:03:19.840 --> 2:03:23.080 real possibility that that's one of their big strengths at 2:03:23.120 --> 2:03:24.080 the end of the season as well. 2:03:24.360 --> 2:03:26.280 Maya Canna saved the best from last year. 2:03:27.000 --> 2:03:27.760 I agree with Zach. 2:03:27.840 --> 2:03:30.160 I do think that wide receiver is something that needs 2:03:30.200 --> 2:03:34.040 to be like dealt with kind of we have Juju, 2:03:34.160 --> 2:03:36.640 and I'm hoping that we use Kendrick Bourne more. 2:03:36.840 --> 2:03:39.240 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that's that's gotta 2:03:39.280 --> 2:03:41.880 be a universal, like we get the guy, get the 2:03:41.920 --> 2:03:44.120 guy the ball, let him show what he can do. 2:03:44.200 --> 2:03:46.520 I mean, he was so upset last year, right, and 2:03:46.560 --> 2:03:49.200 we talked about that earlier today. But you know, clearly 2:03:49.240 --> 2:03:51.360 there were some issues there because he didn't like the 2:03:51.360 --> 2:03:53.080 way it was going. But now that you got somebody 2:03:53.120 --> 2:03:57.360 who we all considered legit in there doing it, all right, 2:03:57.520 --> 2:03:59.480 let's see what the guy's got. Does he have some 2:03:59.520 --> 2:04:01.440 of the chops left? Can he play? Can he catch 2:04:01.480 --> 2:04:03.760 canny score? Can he playmate? Can he do in all 2:04:03.760 --> 2:04:05.960 of this stuff? Yeah, let's get the ball in his hands. 2:04:06.920 --> 2:04:09.520 I'm with you on that one. Okay, guys, thanks, really 2:04:09.560 --> 2:04:12.320 good work today, Thank you, very good work. All right, 2:04:12.760 --> 2:04:14.560 that'll wrap it up for this edition of the play 2:04:14.560 --> 2:04:18.440 of the Playbook for July. 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