1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 4 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 2: And welcome back. I am Dale Lolly. 5 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 3: He is the Matt Williamson and this is the Drive 6 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 3: on the Steelers Audio Network and it is time to 7 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 3: start kickoff our number twere. It's Friday. It's mock Draft Friday. 8 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 3: Matt Fantasy for rustrators are coming up. And just for you, 9 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 3: just for me, a tip of the captain, my partner here, 10 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 3: we're in a league together. I brought Matt into a 11 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 3: league that I've been a part of now thirty two years. 12 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 3: That's unbelievable, right, this is a long running fantasy football league. 13 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 3: And you you drew the second overall pick, yes I did. 14 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 2: And you have seven. 15 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 3: I have seven. You're in a bit of a conundrum here. 16 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 3: But what you want to do because you don't want 17 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 3: to be a two now? You want to swap I 18 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 3: don't on the air trade. 19 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 4: I really like, uh, I would rather be two that 20 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 4: I mean two leagues And I found out I'm two 21 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 4: and I'm an eleven. I'd rather be two than eleven. 22 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 4: I'd rather be seven six. 23 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 3: I think I think five, six, seven is the ideal 24 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 3: spot right now, that's kind of the sweet spot. 25 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 4: I think it's better for the second and third rounds too. 26 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, like you're getting two premium players and you're getting 27 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 3: in to your point, which what we talked about. 28 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 2: Those first seven or eight players pretty solid. 29 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 3: They're all pretty solid, and there's not a lot of 30 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,639 Speaker 3: difference between the right but then that second tier guys 31 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 3: is a lot different and it's not it's not all 32 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 3: that deep. 33 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 4: So I think I said this yesterday that the difference 34 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 4: from the second pick to your seventh pick isn't as 35 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 4: great as from the seventh pick to the eleventh pick. 36 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 4: I think there's just a much bigger. 37 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 2: And I think that's a very valid point. 38 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we're we're drafting here as we do on 39 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 3: Draft Wizard on fantasypros dot com. 40 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 4: A warning red flag devaon a chan in the second 41 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 4: third turn is going to be a conversation. 42 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: You can have them. I have have had it. I 43 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: don't I don't want to deal with it. 44 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 3: So Christian m Well, let's go through the as we 45 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 3: always do this. 46 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 2: The fun names the number one pick. 47 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 3: The team that has the number one slot is the 48 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 3: man in Za mirror. 49 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: Like that not bad? Yeah, Jamar Wars is number three? 50 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 3: Uh said Nadjoku to the Thief is that's well done. 51 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 2: That's one of my favorites all time. I traded. 52 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 3: They changed the names out here now mcaffee if you 53 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 3: can five, c D had a little Lamb is six. 54 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 2: The Bauer Puff Girls is seven. 55 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 4: Definitely got new names, no repeats, right, they hired somebody 56 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 4: new to do team names, and. 57 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like to be the guy that just sits 58 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 2: around and thinks of these. Yeah, Lamar you serious? Is eight? 59 00:02:55,880 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 3: The fighting, the fighting, Puka Chu's fighting, Puka Chew's is nine? 60 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 4: Is that? 61 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yes, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a whatever thing. 62 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 3: War onner mentality. So Jayleen Warren getting up, uh smoke 63 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 3: in the mirrors quick, Jalen Warren might be a steel 64 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 3: right now in drafts. 65 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 4: Yeah if he gets don't fight on that. 66 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 2: And I'm on the edge of glorious twelve okay, well done? Yeah, 67 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 2: I like those. 68 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 4: Then the Joku one was that's going strong. Yeah, taking 69 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 4: Burmanism to do a new level. 70 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 2: So Christian McCaffrey went number one overall. Who you taking 71 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 2: it to? 72 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 4: It's a two horse race. It's Tyreek and its Lamb. 73 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 4: I lean towards Tyreek. 74 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: I'm injury scare you at all? 75 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 3: No, because thumbs don't Thumbs can be tricky though, I know, 76 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 3: I know you know if is it a spring thumb? 77 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 2: Did he tear that liqument in this thumb that I have. 78 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 4: That so yeah, kind of wiggles around all. 79 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, you have no real stability there. 80 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 3: That makes it hard to catch things. 81 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 4: I hear you. But I'm a little worried about Chase 82 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 4: Ayuk and Lamb not playing football lately. 83 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: I'm not. And here's why they're all under contract. 84 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 4: Chase is the one that's crazy, like he's got two years. 85 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 2: He's got two years often, so you're under contract. This isn't. 86 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 2: This is not a levey On Bell situation. 87 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 3: Lev On Bell was was a franchise tag player who 88 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 3: didn't sign the franchise tag, so technically he wasn't. 89 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 2: He wasn't under contract. 90 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, he wasn't football. 91 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 2: Player, but the Steelers held his rights. Correct. That's the difference. 92 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 3: These guys are under contract, so if they start skipping games, 93 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 3: even if they skip one, it's they get fined. 94 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 4: They get fined, and they don't get that page and 95 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 4: they don't get that paycheck. But I also worry about 96 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 4: the T Higgins disgruntled mid season. 97 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 2: That's the thing that you worry about. 98 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 4: If they have anything, they sit out, they just start 99 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 4: getting a little yeah player before team. I'm using a 100 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 4: second overall pick on this dude, like you better be solid, 101 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 4: and they both have a little bit of a ward. 102 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 3: I'm going Tyreek. Okay, I can't argue it. Yeah, Lamb 103 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 3: goes next, Jefferson, Hall, Rob and all the regular Yeah. 104 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 4: I mean together, there's fifteen names or we have no 105 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 4: shot at it. The second pick anyway. 106 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 3: So your pick is up here in the second round. Okay, 107 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 3: picks right ahead of you, Derrick Henry, Interested, Frake London, 108 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 3: Isaiah Pacheco. 109 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 4: So I've been given two thought, and I don't think 110 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 4: I'm gonna get McCaffrey and the league we're in together, 111 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 4: I may be shocked, but if I do, I'm running 112 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 4: the podium. I probably am only going to do one 113 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 4: running back in the top three rounds, and it won't 114 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 4: be round one because it's McCaffrey's gone part of me. 115 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 4: And I probably shouldn't even tell you this, but I 116 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 4: also have considered Bijon or haul two just because I'd 117 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 4: love to go receiver receiver here. 118 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 3: See, I don't care who I get. Yeah yet seven, 119 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be happy with you. 120 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 4: That's the beauty where you're picking who's who's. I'm not 121 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 4: interested in tight ends or receiver quarterbacks here, Okay, I 122 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 4: don't want to be the first. 123 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 3: So your top running backs available, a chan, here's my 124 00:05:58,400 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 3: here's my thing though. 125 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't want two dolphins either, though. 126 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 2: That's the problem. You got two dolphins if you do that. 127 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 4: And you would trade them all by Halloween if you do, yeah, 128 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 4: because they're going to start. 129 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 3: The other thing is is he going to get enough 130 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 3: touches per game to be this is your number one back? 131 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 3: I know, I know that's kind of scary to me. 132 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 3: I might have an interest in somebody. 133 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 4: Like I was hoping Henry will be there. 134 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 3: To me, I would look at more of a Josh Jacobs. Yeah, 135 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 3: if I'm gonna go there, because I know he's going 136 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 3: to be on the field. 137 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 2: I hear you. 138 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 4: I mean just as a more of a layup. 139 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 2: He's gonna get, he's gonna get. He never misses games 140 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 2: so real quick. 141 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 4: The one thing I do love about owning the second 142 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 4: and eleventh pick is I know I can control what 143 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 4: number one does. Number one is only going to take 144 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 4: one back, yeah, you know, at most, right, so one 145 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 4: of those two will be there, so I might go 146 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 4: receiver now and just get the back in the third round. 147 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 4: So who are the receivers that are who are the 148 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 4: best receivers and running backs? 149 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 3: Receivers are looking at Lave Wattle. You can't take Wattle. 150 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 3: I know, Pittman, Mike Evans, h Cooper, Cupp is there, 151 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 3: Brandon Ayuk, Deebo, Samuel DJ Moore. 152 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 4: See, that's one of the problems with I gave this 153 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 4: a little bit of thought, and I didn't think about 154 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 4: it today when we did it. Some of my favorite 155 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 4: targets at two and three are dolphins. Yeah, and two 156 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 4: of them's fine, But I play first two picks Campy Dolphins, 157 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:20,679 Speaker 4: the first three picks Campy Dolphins. 158 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 2: You to take two of them, is right, right right? 159 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 4: Johnny Smith's my favorite tight end. And you know, like 160 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 4: there's only so many Dolphins you can have, and then 161 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 4: they all stink by. 162 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 3: All canceled out, and yeah, let's do a Lave. Okay, 163 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 3: that's a solid pick. 164 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 4: It's solid pick. Yeah, I don't love that neighborhood. I 165 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 4: know I'm not gonna be thrilled with my second round 166 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 4: pick no matter what. 167 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 3: Right now you're up again. Okay, you've taken two receivers. 168 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 3: We only start two receivers. Who's the number one guy? 169 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 3: Take back to back? 170 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 2: H Jalen Hurts and Jalen Wattle. 171 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 3: Okay, that doesn't really hurt you. No, not really, because 172 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 3: you were going to take Wattle and Hurts. 173 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 4: I want Wattle, but I can't take him in Hill. 174 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. So now you're looking at running back again. I'm 175 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 2: gonna take a chance. I know that hurts you. 176 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 3: So I would have taken Jacobs Jacob, I get. 177 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 4: It, I get it. 178 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 2: I just have a Chan, three or four running back spots. 179 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 4: Ahead of them. 180 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 3: I just want my touch monsters at that point though, 181 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 3: I understand. And now because you've taken a Chan, you 182 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 3: almost need that. You almost have to have that guy. 183 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 2: The solid Ramandre Stevenson. 184 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, somebody who you know is going to get the 185 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 3: football consistently, possibly or just totally punt there, which is 186 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 3: also could be in the cards. 187 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 2: Uh, you're up now at eleven. 188 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 3: DJ Moore, C. J. Stroud and Kenneth Walker went right 189 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 3: ahead of you. 190 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 4: Walker would have been interesting. 191 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 192 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 3: Uh so the top backs available James Connor, Aaron Jones, 193 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 3: Ramondre Stevenson, David Montgomery, DeAndre Swift, Naujee Harris. 194 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 4: I think I have to take any of those guys now. 195 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 3: Top receivers available, DeVante Smith, Malik Neighbors, A Mauri Cooper 196 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 3: is A Flowers. I know we're ke Higgins. You're taking 197 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,599 Speaker 3: You're taking Neighbors. Yeah. 198 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 4: So I think people know I do a lot of dynasty, 199 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 4: and people in my redraft league, like your league, we've 200 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 4: been together thirty some years or whatever or two. They've 201 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 4: realized one of my weaknesses is take the guys the 202 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 4: year after Williamson takes them, you know, because I reject 203 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 4: I get him a little or a year or two early. Yeah, 204 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 4: like my team last year, if you could give it 205 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 4: running back, I would blow my league away. Like they're 206 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 4: all the prospects that you know are a year. 207 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 2: Off, but you loved them in the draft. 208 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you buy into the preseason buzz and you know, 209 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 4: but I'm taking Neighbors in the third round all day long. 210 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 3: Okay, so we're up here in the fifth round. Do 211 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 3: you think quarterback at all here. Do you think tight 212 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 3: end is the fifth round? Yeah? 213 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,839 Speaker 2: Who was my fourth pick? Then? You just took the 214 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 2: leak neighbors. 215 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 4: I went hill, Oh yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, so I 216 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 4: have a chan hill a lave a neighbors. 217 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So I'm done at receiver. Well, you still 218 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 2: have your flex. Three receivers in a flex. 219 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 3: No, it's two receivers in a flex. So I'm starting 220 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 3: it could be running bad or a tight end for 221 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 3: that matter. Yeah, but I'm not gonna put neighbors on 222 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 3: the bench. Top players available to you here, any backs, 223 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 3: tight ends and Anthony Richardson, Frey McBride, Aaron Jones, James Connor. 224 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 4: Kind of like all those. So I'm gonna get two 225 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 4: of them probably. 226 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 227 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 3: The other quarterbacks available at this point Richardson, Kyler Murray, 228 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow, Dak Prescott. 229 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 4: I'm not taking a quarterback then, because Murray or Richardson 230 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 4: are fine with me, and I might not even take 231 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 4: him around the corner. 232 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 3: Top tight ends available McBride, Dalton Kincaid, Evan Ingram, Kyle Pitts. 233 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 4: Okay, I can live with any of those, not Ingram, 234 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 4: but I can live with the tight end or receiver. 235 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 3: Or running backs are still James Connor, Aaron Jones, Ormandre Stevenson, 236 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 3: David Montgomery, Nowge Harris. 237 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 4: Lean towards Aaron Jones. He's not the volume monster. I 238 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 4: don't love any of those names. Connor would be, but 239 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 4: he's a little too fragile. Yeah, I mean your point 240 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 4: about a chance valid in terms of can he stand 241 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 4: the fuel for seventeen games? 242 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 3: And I don't think he averaged twelve touches a game 243 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 3: even if he stays healthy. 244 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 2: Who's your favorite back there? 245 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 4: Like Stevenson's the on the awful offense, but I think 246 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 4: he'll get the most touches of those guys. 247 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 3: I'm a big Montgomery guy. Yeah, he's safe, he's gonna 248 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 3: have double digit touchdowns. 249 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 4: You take him over Aaron Jones. 250 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 2: I think he that's close. 251 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 4: That's close. 252 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 2: That's close. 253 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 4: Jones is the one I'm leaning towards, but I do 254 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 4: like Montgomery a lot. I'm definitely going with the back here, though. 255 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can see Jones there. Let's do it. 256 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 4: Let's do Jones. I'm gonna try to get Ty Chandler 257 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 4: at some point though. Yeah, so now I'm probably going 258 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 4: to maybe I'll take another back. All those tight ends 259 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 4: and quarterbacks are there's a chance one of them falls. 260 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 3: Top backs available Najee Harris is a mere White, Raheem Moster, 261 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 3: Javonte Williams, a. 262 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 4: Lot about Oh, this was a long and I was 263 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 4: in the short way long ago. Okay. 264 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 2: Top receivers available Rashid Rice, Chris Godwin, Calvin Ridley, Jayden Reid. 265 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 2: That is drying up quickly. 266 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 4: I would have taken if I knew Rice was there. 267 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 2: Jackson Smith and Jaba is there. 268 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have three receivers though, DeAndre Hopkins, who the 269 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 3: tight ends in quarterbacks tight ends? 270 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 4: This is the short trip, right yeah. 271 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 2: Evan Ingram, Jake Ferguson, David and Joku brock Bowers. 272 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 4: Ingram kind of stands out. How about the quarterbacks? 273 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 3: Now you're looking at Dak Prescott, Jordan Loved, Jaden Daniels, 274 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 3: Rock Party. 275 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 2: I think I'll take Ingram Okay. 276 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 4: I don't love that spot, and I'm not gonna love 277 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 4: this next pick either. Who's best available, best available? 278 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 3: Vante Williams still there, Dak Prescott, Zamir White, Najee Harris, 279 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 3: Yavante Williams. 280 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 4: I'll take Naugy Okay. I have three backs. I can play. 281 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 282 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 4: Either, I'm not gonna put so one of those backs 283 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 4: is gonna be on the bench, though I have a 284 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 4: tight end. Maybe to take two quarterbacks here. 285 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 3: Okay, so is your top quarterbacks available? Jayden Daniels, Brock Party, 286 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 3: Caleb Williams. 287 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 2: To Attago Vailoa. 288 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 4: Is Lawrence available? 289 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 3: Uh yeah, Jared Goff, Trevor, Lawrence, Kirk Cousins. Let's take 290 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 3: You could take the TUIs stack there. 291 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 4: I'm thinking about Daniels and then around the corner taking 292 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 4: another one, either Tua or Lawrence. 293 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:25,839 Speaker 3: I've done that a lot. 294 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 4: Daniels is high upside. Yeah, he's a million hits. So 295 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 4: let's take Daniels and start as long as you last. 296 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 2: He's gonna run. 297 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 4: I'm gonna back him up with somebody decent, either here 298 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 4: or the next round. Okay, so the best available. I 299 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 4: know there's quarterbacks there. 300 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 3: But Chase Brown, Jerome Ford, Cortland, Sutton, Brock Party. 301 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 4: Lawrence available, Lawrence is available. Yeah, I'll take Lawrence over Party. 302 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 3: If I went in your case, I would take Tua 303 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:00,080 Speaker 3: and now I also have Ingram you do, but but 304 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 3: two in Hill, I get it. 305 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 4: They can be explosive. I get it. Yeah, I just 306 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 4: have Lawrence really high on my list. 307 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 3: Okay, Trevor Lawrence. 308 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 2: It is. 309 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 3: Now we wait, right, now, we wait. This is round 310 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 3: ten with. 311 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 4: Three backs, three receivers. I'll probably go the rest of 312 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 4: the way. Receivers and backs. 313 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 3: Top backs available Zach Scharbonay, Antonio Gibson, Julil McLaughlin, ty Chandler. Yeah, 314 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 3: I think Chandler time. Yeah's great, take him here in 315 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 3: round ten. Even need to look at the receivers. So 316 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 3: now you get Minnesota's backfield. 317 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, Naugy is a three, which I'm pretty happy about. 318 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, running backs available here McLachlan, JK. Dobbins, Tyler, Alger Khaley, 319 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 3: O Herbert At receiver, you're looking at Josh Palmer, Romeo Dobbs, 320 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 3: Rashid Chah, Brandon Cooks. I think Josh Palmer stands. 321 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, in a big way. He's gonna get targets. 322 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 2: He might be their number one. 323 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 4: I think he is their number one. 324 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll take. 325 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 3: Him with a good quarterback. 326 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 4: Mm hm, no, I think that's a good one. We 327 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 4: got four receivers, four backs, two quarterbacks. I don't even 328 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 4: care about backing. 329 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 2: That might turn round twelve now, okay, fifteen total sixteen. 330 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 4: Okay, so I get two more position players. Yeah. 331 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 3: Uh, top receivers available, Josh Downs, Dontavian Wicks, Gabe Davis 332 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 3: to Mario Douglas, maybe Wicks. Running backs you're looking at 333 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 3: Khalil Herbert, Marshawn Lloyd, Roshawn Johnson, Bucky. 334 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 4: Irving, Wicks. 335 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been a guy that I've taken some late 336 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 2: round flyer. 337 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I'm not gonna start him for a month, 338 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 4: but he starts to emerge. Be happy. 339 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 3: He might be running one Christian Watkins injury away from 340 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 3: being a stud. 341 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, and that happens regularly a lot. 342 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. All right, Round thirteen, here is up the top 343 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 3: suggested picks for you. Pat Fryermuth, I was guy should 344 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 3: ask about him, Marshawn. 345 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 2: Lloyd, Khalil Herbert, and the Jets defense. 346 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 4: Mouth. 347 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 3: There you go, Round thirteen, Pat Fryman, it's a good back. 348 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 4: I might be starting him over Ingram at one point. 349 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 350 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 4: I mean like they're at least comparable. 351 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 2: Yeah they're close. 352 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. 353 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 3: Defense and kickers, Yeah you're up here now in round fourteen. Uh, 354 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 3: defense the top defense available. You get the Browns, you 355 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 3: got the Steelers, the Chiefs, the Bills, Browns Houston, Philadelphia. 356 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 2: Just to make our listeners, mad let's take the Browns. 357 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 2: Taking the Browns defense can't plan m when they're on 358 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 2: the road. 359 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 4: We're working on that. We'll get that fixed. Okay. Uh 360 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 4: And whatever kicker they recommend is fine. 361 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 3: This is around fifteen, se might get so justin Tucker's available, 362 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 3: Brandon Aubrey, you want Tucker? 363 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, keep it in the division. 364 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 3: He did not make her fifty yard field goal last year. 365 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 4: I know that's bonkers. 366 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 2: Aubrey might be the guy. Actually he made a sixty 367 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 2: six yard or the last Yeah, and your last pick 368 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 2: I got screwed up. 369 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 4: I would have taken kicker in the last year. 370 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, whatever, all right, so you can just take the 371 00:16:54,920 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 3: best available Alexander Madison, Rodrikstime, Kenneth Gainwell to Mario Douglas. 372 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 3: Give me a couple of names, Edwards, al aj Dillon. 373 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 4: It was all just running backs, Aalen Polk. 374 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 3: I want to see if there was one guy available here? 375 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 4: Is he? 376 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 3: Let me see here? 377 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 4: How don't I kind of forgot about my boy Johnny Smith. 378 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 4: But I was invested pretty heavy in Dolphins anyway. Yeah, 379 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 4: and I like I want to see if Ray Davis 380 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 4: is available, Dante Dante Foreman is available, he might be 381 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 4: a starter. He might be the starter in Cleveland. Miles Sanders, 382 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 4: Jamal Williams, will Shipley, Jordan Mason, Dylan Lobb, Dylan I 383 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 4: might be a starter too, Yeah, J P. 384 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 3: Ryan, Eric Gray, I. 385 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 4: Sleep taking Miles Sanders up in Dallas. 386 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 3: Deuce Vaughn, Corderyll Patterson, Michael Carter doesn't look like it 387 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 3: doesn't look like he's available. 388 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 4: You take it away. 389 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 2: Who you like out of those running backs. 390 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 4: Dylan Lobb came to mind, Miles Sanders came to mind, 391 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 4: and probably cutting them e the way in two weeks, 392 00:17:58,320 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 4: whoever this player is. 393 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 3: But if if that's going to be the case, I 394 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 3: would take Dante Foreman. Maybe hope he starts for Cleveland 395 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 3: in week one, maybe you can trade him mm hmm. 396 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,479 Speaker 4: Or hopefully Ford gets hurt in week one. Yeah, then 397 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 4: he's Forman's a good pick. 398 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, first month of the season, he'll at least get 399 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 2: the ball. 400 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 3: He's going to get the football, and maybe maybe you 401 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 3: can trade him after a couple of weeks and. 402 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, bad Chubb news comes out or something. Yeah, 403 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 4: you know, uh what We're set. 404 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 3: We got Jayden Daniels at quarterback, Devin a Chan Aaron 405 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 3: Jones at running back, Tyreek Hill, Chris Olave at wide receiver, 406 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 3: Evan Ingram at tight end, Flex's Malik Neighbors. You got 407 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 3: the Browns defense, Justin Tucker Kicker on the bench, Nagee Harris, 408 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence ty Chandler, Josh Palmer, Dontavian Wicks, Pat Farremouth, 409 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 3: and Deontay Foreman. That got you an eighty five out 410 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 3: of one hundred according to the Fantasy pros experts just 411 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 3: looking at. 412 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 2: Their grades overall. I like it, I don't love it. 413 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 3: Pat Fitmore, Pat fitz Morris gave us a a plus 414 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 3: ninety seven out of one hundred for that draft, Derek 415 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 3: Brown and as ninety one out of one hundred, Andrew 416 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 3: Erickson an eighty five out of one hundred, and Joe 417 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 3: Pisapia a seventy nine out of one hundred. Projected standings. 418 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 3: We ended up being drafting. 419 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 2: The I forgot they do. That's Fantasy Pro. 420 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 421 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 3: The fifth best overall team in the league, our overall, 422 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 3: our starters, our third best in our bench, they said, 423 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 3: was fifth eleventh of quarterback ninth at running back, number 424 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 3: one at wide receivers. 425 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 4: Say receivers are stacked, sixth at. 426 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 3: Tight end, fourth at the flex position. 427 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 2: Oh, okay, fifty the defense and special teams. Number one 428 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 2: at kicker. Okay, Justin Tucker. There you go. It's okay. 429 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 2: I don't love it. 430 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 4: I'm not sure what I'd have done different looking back 431 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 4: on it. Would you rather have Lamb or Hill with 432 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 4: the rest of the roster you have? Because if I 433 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 4: would have taken Lamb, I might have taken Waddle. I 434 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 4: don't know if I'd taken Waddle over a lave though, 435 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 4: but I might have taken Lamb a lave waddle instead 436 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 4: of a Chan. But then they're really la run back 437 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 4: and I would not have neighbors. So no, I'm happy 438 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 4: though I did. Then I think it's a solid Yeah. 439 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it doesn't really have any true holes. 440 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 4: No quarterback and tight end. You're sort of at a 441 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 4: disadvantage against most opponents. Yeah, you can turn through those guys. Yeah, quarterback, 442 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 4: let's get to a break. 443 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 3: That's going to do it for the fantasy football segment 444 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 3: for today. He is the Matt Williamson. 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I'm Dale Lolly. 451 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 3: He is the Matt Williamson and Matt Last night, after 452 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 3: of course, the trade between Eagles and the Washington Commanders, 453 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 3: immediately the speculation again, well it's Washington now back in 454 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 3: right back in. 455 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 4: The latest news as the world turned. 456 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 2: In the sweepstakes here. 457 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 3: And you know, part of the reason for that is 458 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,360 Speaker 3: that Jade and Daniels actually, even though Jaden and Daniels. 459 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 4: Is a rookie, used to throw balls to Ayuk. 460 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 2: Brandon Ayuk is in his fourth year in the league. 461 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 2: They played together at Arizona State, their. 462 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 4: Buddy on several teams since then. Yeah, their buddies. 463 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 3: In fact, a lot of the stuff that you saw 464 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 3: this offseason on social media coming out of Ayuk's camp, 465 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 3: his camp included Jaden Daniels. 466 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 4: I know, yeah, I think they worked out together and 467 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 4: their titans and all that good stuff. And I'm not 468 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 4: exactly sure why, but he has some say where he goes, 469 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 4: and he's pretty publicly said if he's not in San Francisco, 470 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 4: he wants to be in Pittsburgh or Washington. Cleveland and 471 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 4: New England aren't for him. Not sure why, I don't 472 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 4: know whatever, that's up to him. 473 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 2: It's up you know. So and Mount Washington's got some 474 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 2: extra picks. 475 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 3: Washington has some extra picks right now. Washington's starting receivers. 476 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 3: Mm hmm, you're looking at McLaurin. Yep, Diami Brown All 477 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 3: Almighty is the keys. Uh. 478 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 2: Luke McCaffrey's in that mix. 479 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. 480 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 2: Uh, he's a third round picks. He's making the team. 481 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 3: Uh, Marcus Rosemary Rose, Jack Saint, he got Bryson's Tremaine 482 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 3: Jamison Crowder, Uh, Martavis Bryant. 483 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 2: Right now, he's Byron Pringle. 484 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 4: I heard some speculation that Bryan spent so good day 485 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 4: have their receivers figured out. I'm like, that's a long job. 486 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 2: Maybe he's flash. 487 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 3: I hope for his sake that he's figured it out 488 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 3: and and got got his life back on the straight 489 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 3: and era. Yeah, his issue was was I believe was 490 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 3: was marijuana. 491 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 4: I was about to say, like, my kids are gonna 492 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 4: laugh that his career got derailed the way it did, 493 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,239 Speaker 4: you know, And he's not the only one you know, 494 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 4: like that ruined someone's career. Like, come on, man, but 495 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 4: that's the rules, played by the rules. Yeah, the roles 496 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,199 Speaker 4: in the fifties and sixties and whatever too. Anyways, I 497 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 4: do hope he is a star then Abbie Brown's got 498 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 4: some good buzz, But I think he is what he is. 499 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 4: He's a downfield guy. McCaffrey's a pure slot. But I'm 500 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 4: sure they have some hope for him, like the Steelers 501 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 4: do with Roman Wilson. I don't think he's beound the 502 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 4: field much. He's got some sort of injury. It's obvious 503 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 4: that Washington knows they're bad, like real bad, and are rebuilding. 504 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 4: And they also have gone out of their way to 505 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 4: get high character, tough guys to change an awful building. 506 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 4: To be frank, you know, the the Bobby Wagners and 507 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 4: ERTs and Echolars and those type of dudes. That being said, 508 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 4: even as light as they are at receiver, by the 509 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 4: time they're good, Terry mclaurin's not gonna be good. Yeah, 510 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't understand why he would be super 511 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 4: invested in him, and why I brought up a high 512 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 4: character guys is because he's a tough guy and he's 513 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 4: a good guy to build around, and he'd be an 514 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 4: asset to any team. Steelers, But would you trade Dotson 515 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 4: and McLaurin, even if you were. 516 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 2: To add Ayuk? 517 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 3: Maybe maybe if you get younger, you're getting younger. You're 518 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 3: giving your quarterback who you just spent the second overall 519 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 3: pick on. 520 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 4: It's all about making him, make him comfortable, right, yeah, right? 521 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 4: You know, if I'm the Niners, I'm not looking at 522 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 4: him like Washington's nipping on our heels for the super Bowl. 523 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 4: They're not a competitor to me, even though they're in 524 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 4: the NFC. You got the extra picks, I mean, could 525 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 4: you get him for a second? 526 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 2: And third? 527 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,719 Speaker 3: My question would be, does Washington do a straight up 528 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:43,360 Speaker 3: trade of McLaurin. McLaurin, and because I could see the 529 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 3: I could see San Francisco being interested in that. 530 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 4: No question, no question. It sure seems like they want 531 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:53,239 Speaker 4: a player. Pierce All's not been active at all for them. 532 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 4: I don't like yet. So that's the first round pick 533 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 4: you can't count on, and they're in to win it, 534 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 4: you know, I mean, like apparently they were highly interested 535 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 4: in the Mari Cooper. I'm sure they asked about Pickens, 536 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 4: which isn't going to happen, you know. I mean, at 537 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 4: least you have to ask. If you're John Lynch. 538 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 2: I would I'd like. 539 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 4: To see McLaurin end up here to be that would 540 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 4: be That would be what I would try to, Yeah, 541 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 4: an angle out of this. But I don't know why 542 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 4: you traded Dotson then, unless you needed the picks to 543 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 4: go get Ayuk, you know, like he just. 544 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 3: Wasn't going to be in your plans one way or 545 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 3: the other like Dotson. 546 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, probably not. 547 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 3: Diamie Brown has had I think he fits with with 548 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 3: what Jaden Daniels does. 549 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:36,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he's fine because he's. 550 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 3: Going to get one on one coverage because Daniels is 551 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 3: going to free from downfield guy. He's a down the 552 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 3: field guy. Mclaurin's going to be your Jane Mover. Dotson 553 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 3: hasn't proven to be that no downfield guy, you know, 554 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 3: Is there a way you can prior Terry McLaurin off 555 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 3: of Washington if they land aug If they would land 556 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 3: Ayuk for the Steelers and not include McLaurin in that deal. 557 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 4: I think the answer is yes. And I'm sure I've 558 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 4: said this in some media outlet. But like before all 559 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 4: this nonsense, the drama, the of all the AYUK stuff 560 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 4: which I'm not even gonna bite and say, oh he's 561 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 4: going to Washington, I thought the best deal for the 562 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 4: buck would be McLaurin. You know, like I'm interested in Ayuk. 563 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 4: We talked about Adams with the Raiders. There's a lot 564 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 4: of other names have been thrown out there, but for 565 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 4: what he would cost and how he would fit in here, 566 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 4: McLaurin is probably my favorite target. Yeah, you know, he's 567 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 4: not super pricey in terms of the contract. 568 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 2: The contract's fifteen point one to five million. 569 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 4: I know you could get it. I don't know, but 570 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 4: I would bet everything I owned that you could get 571 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 4: him for a second. I wonder if you could get 572 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 4: him for a third plus third and fifth, third and 573 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 4: fifth next year. I don't know. 574 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 2: The other thing is he's also signed for next year. 575 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 2: I'd say his contract's nice at fifteen point two five million. 576 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 3: Maybe one of he might say I want to throw 577 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 3: my little extra money in there for case. 578 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 4: But how old is he he he's twenty nine, twenty nine, Okay, 579 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 4: I think he did not come out as a junior. 580 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 4: They had so many receivers. He took him while to 581 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 4: even like, yeah, be the man at the Ohio State 582 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 4: and he's playing a special team. Yeah, he was a 583 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 4: really good, tough guy. I'd be highly interested. But if 584 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 4: I'm the Niners, that's who I want that, I want McLaurin. Yeah, 585 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 4: give me McLaurin in a three. 586 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that doesn't even hurt them camp wise, because 587 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 3: McLaurin only makes a little bit more than Now. Again, 588 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 3: maybe get trade for McLaurin. And he says I want 589 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 3: a new deal. 590 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 4: I think he I would do that ifire him, it 591 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 4: might be your last crack. Yeah, Okay, we can give 592 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 4: you a bump. I mean, I'm not going to give 593 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 4: you thirty. 594 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 2: You're not gonna get you. We're not gonna give you 595 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:43,719 Speaker 2: what we're gonna give Ayuk. 596 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 4: No, Ayuk's worth more. Yeah, there's no question. But what 597 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 4: about Adams. I mean, if you think, as the Niners think, 598 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 4: give me a two and a three for Ayuk, send 599 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 4: a three to the Raiders for Adams in Super Bowl, 600 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 4: Tim McLaurin to the Steelers, Washington be light at receiver. 601 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, but well they're a lad at receiver now though, 602 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 3: and they did it to themselves. 603 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 2: They did, but that was my design for them. I 604 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 2: yuk as an upgrade over McLaurin. 605 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 4: Yes, Andy's younger, and he fits their timeline and he 606 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 4: helps their quarterback, which has to be the huge goal here. Yeah, 607 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 4: what what makes Jade and Daniels gives him the bettest 608 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 4: best chance to turn into the best quarterback on. 609 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 3: The Planet's trading for his best bud. 610 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 4: Trade for the best bud who's hitting his prime. It's 611 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 4: a pristine route runner that fits every scheme. 612 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 3: And we just picked up an extra three so we 613 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 3: can we can make a three part of that package and. 614 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 4: Nothing and lose nothing. And if I'm the Niners, I 615 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 4: want Washington's picks, especially their second rounder, because it could 616 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 4: be thirty three. They're really bad. 617 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 2: Give me thirty three. I don't know, he could be 618 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 2: thirty three. 619 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 4: You're pretty low in the Patriots. 620 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 2: Pretty Patriots. 621 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 4: The lie is pretty terrible. Yeah, yeah, but it's going 622 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 4: to be an early. 623 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 2: It'll be somewhere in the thirties. 624 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 4: You might get a Yuke just for that too, maybe, 625 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 4: I mean maybe or in a four, yeah, or you know, 626 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 4: future four or something like that. Now I didn't really 627 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 4: lose anything at least I still have a second a third. 628 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 4: Are you anim get something for McLaurin. Yeah, if I'm Washington, 629 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 4: I mean Washington's just clean house, and not that McLaurin 630 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 4: has to go, but they just want fifty three new guys, 631 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 4: I think, yeah, yeah, I mean, and that makes sense. 632 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 2: And again he's he's twenty nine. You know, in three years, 633 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 2: is he going to still be in the league. 634 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 4: If so, he's hanging on. Yeah, he'd be really useful here. Yeah, 635 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 4: I talk about claurin. Yeah, yeah, yeah, agree. I think 636 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 4: Adams is another one that's either one shown any drop off, right, 637 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 4: I mean they will one day, but there I would 638 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 4: think you get two or three good years out of both. 639 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 4: I know Adams is older. 640 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 3: Of the two, and Adams is making a lot more money. 641 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 4: He's a lot more money, and I think he'd probably 642 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 4: cost a little more in draft picks. 643 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 3: See, I would think because of the money might be 644 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 3: a little less. The age too, Yeah, the age and 645 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 3: the money is. 646 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 4: Production is better. 647 00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 3: But the problem with with the Raiders trading him is 648 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 3: his camp hit actually goes it. 649 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 4: Hurts Hire Yeah yeah, yeah, And just in terms of 650 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 4: their timeline, though McLaurin and Adams don't do much for 651 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 4: the Raiders and Commanders. Yeah, I mean they're not close 652 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 4: to contending and the Raiders don't even have their quarterback 653 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 4: to get them as Woobie. Yeah, at least Washington does. 654 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 4: Just it's interesting. 655 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, Laren would be really interesting. 656 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 3: I would feel differently maybe if there were more time. 657 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 3: But I understand that week in between the start of 658 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 3: you know, the extra week between the start of the 659 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 3: regular season in the last preseason game does give teams 660 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 3: a little bit of time to work something up. But 661 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 3: this we're talking about very complicated deals here we are. 662 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 4: I thought you meant more time to get them to 663 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 4: learn the offense. 664 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 2: I'm not worried about that. 665 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 4: And I say, Russell Wilson will say run to go, Yeah, 666 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 4: running out. You know, I don't need to know all 667 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 4: the concepts. I'll just tell you what route to run. 668 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. Right. 669 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 3: You will get to know each other as the season seven, 670 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 3: slot six, you know, three whatever, and Terry you run this. 671 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. Terry's like, what the heck does that mean? Like 672 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 2: just running out? Yeah, you give me an eight yard 673 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 2: give me an eight yard out. 674 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 4: I think Russell Wilson and DeVante Adams could figure things 675 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 4: out together or McLaurin. Yeah, that doesn't worry me. The 676 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 4: talks have to be going crazy though, they have to be. Yeah, 677 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 4: I mean much of these have de vauready been going 678 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 4: on for a month. You know, you're talking about the 679 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 4: time needed to get a deal done. Aren't the talks 680 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 4: in the barn by now? I mean? Does the dots 681 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 4: in trade change the plate tectonics of the wide receiver market? That? 682 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 2: The thing that makes it tough. 683 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 3: Is that the players involved are gonna want mon other deals, right, 684 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 3: and so you have to have that. You have to 685 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 3: have that worked out with the agent before you make 686 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 3: a deal like that, and you'd have to get permission 687 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 3: from the team to. 688 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 2: Talk to the agent. 689 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 4: I never know what to believe, but it sure seems 690 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,479 Speaker 4: like the Steelers in IU kevia contract worked out, or 691 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 4: Washington and iuke a contract worked out, which isn't the 692 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 4: same as the Niner one because they don't they're not 693 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 4: giving them a contract he's as happy with. Now, I'm 694 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 4: sure no one's probably talk to McLaurin or Adams, right. 695 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 2: You'd have to get permission for the team to do that. 696 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, Now that's the flying the ointment for anything else 697 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 3: to happen with these things, So that would have to 698 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:10,719 Speaker 3: happen really quickly. 699 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 4: No, that would have to happen really quickly. So correct 700 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 4: me if I'm wrong. But McLaurin is twenty eight years old, 701 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 4: twenty nine, twenty nine, and he's making eighteen ish. 702 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 2: He's making fifteen one and next year's eighteen. 703 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 3: Next year is fifteen two. Now his cap hit is 704 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 3: twenty four and twenty three six. But that's just money. 705 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 2: Out the door with the that's Washington problem. 706 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. Now if i'm his camp, his agent, this is 707 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 4: my opportunity to strike. Yeah, if someone's going to trade 708 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 4: for me, I'm not going to be the easiest guy 709 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 4: to deal. I'm not just gonna be like, Okay, I'm 710 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 4: just happy you got a Washington. Although that was I 711 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 4: want twenty five, I would win twenty five. That was 712 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 4: the exact same thing. I want a two year, fifty 713 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 4: million dollar deal. Basically, tear up my deal. 714 00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 2: You can make you could do it. 715 00:32:58,880 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 4: Play on this year. 716 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 2: Hey, I want to I want three years. 717 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 3: I want sixty million dollars, sixty I want seventy million dollars. 718 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 4: Something croptured. However you want, Yeah, most of it's guaranteed. 719 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 4: I said something, I kind of regret he's played for 720 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 4: the worst organization in the league his whole life. Yeah, 721 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 4: you know how attractive the Niners or Steelers would be 722 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 4: just culturally, you know, like just get me out of here. 723 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 4: I mean, I know they have new ownership, and I'm 724 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 4: sure that there's more optimism and going to works better 725 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 4: now than it used to be. But he's had a 726 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 4: brutal situation. 727 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that deal he signed. 728 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 3: You know, he signed that deal with Washington in June 729 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 3: of twenty twenty two. It was a three year, sixty 730 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 3: eight point three million dollar contract, which at the time 731 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 3: was a big deal. 732 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 733 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I remember it was like was he worth that? 734 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 4: Now it looks like a bargain. 735 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 736 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 4: But if you're him, if he plays out his contract 737 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 4: in Washington, chances are he's not going to make another 738 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 4: big payday. Yeah, he's probably if he's still playing well, 739 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 4: he's in the fifteen neighborhood. I know there's add inflation 740 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 4: to that. Yeah, you know, but this would be his 741 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 4: last time to strike while the iron's hot. 742 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,839 Speaker 3: Might take twenty two. Yeah, you know, like I said, 743 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 3: three year sixty five and the thing is, and nobody 744 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 3: ever factors this into things. The cost of living in 745 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 3: San Francisco is awful, is the highest in the country. Yeah, 746 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 3: so getting twenty eight million from the Steelers is not 747 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:29,919 Speaker 3: getting twenty eight million from the forty nine ers. Much different, easy, 748 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 3: even more than And I understand cost of living is 749 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 3: when if you're making twenty eight million dollars, you're not 750 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 3: necessarily worried about what a gallon of milk costs, but 751 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 3: real estate you are. 752 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I've told the story in 753 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 4: the air all the time, Like I worked for Walt Harris, 754 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 4: a pit he got hired by Stanford pricey spot, Yeah, 755 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 4: a little more in that area, in that area wanted 756 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 4: to take our take the whole staff with them, And 757 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 4: guys like our running back coach are like, yeah, I'm 758 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,919 Speaker 4: getting raised to go to Stanford, but it's a pay cut. 759 00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 4: I can't go. Yeah, you know what I mean, Like 760 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 4: the cost of living, that's that that can't happen. And 761 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,760 Speaker 4: I tell this story too. When we were at Akron, 762 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 4: the offense and defensive coordinator from Duke in North Carolina 763 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 4: had just been let go and we hired them as 764 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 4: our coordinators. They sold these little houses in North Carolina 765 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 4: and bought mansions and acron You know, that's what it matters, right, 766 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 4: you know. And you know an other thing people want 767 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 4: to talk about enough in this league is no state 768 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 4: income taxes in some places. 769 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 2: It is such an advantage Florida. Yeah, such an advantage. 770 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 4: How many millions of dollars that costs over a one 771 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:36,280 Speaker 4: hundred million dollar contract. 772 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 3: It's a big difference, it really is. And so you know, 773 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,800 Speaker 3: those are things. Maybe that's the hold up. Maybe the 774 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,280 Speaker 3: Steelers in the forty nine ers are both offering AYUK 775 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 3: the same exact contract. 776 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,839 Speaker 2: But it's better deal here. 777 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 3: But the Steelers contract is basically worth two million dollars 778 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 3: more per year because because it is, because it is, 779 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 3: because it is the cost of living and all that stuff. 780 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 4: Yeah right right, I mean yeah, everything about it. Cheezburger's more, 781 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 4: I mean everything's. 782 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 2: You can't get around out there. 783 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,399 Speaker 4: It's a mess. Yeah yeah. 784 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, So now that stuff matters absolutely. 785 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 3: But we'll see if something happens with some of these, 786 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 3: if there's another shoe to drop after the Johan Dotson deal. 787 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,919 Speaker 4: That one raised an eyebrow though, like maybe there's something 788 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,359 Speaker 4: more going on here. Yeah, I didn't think he'd get 789 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 4: shipped off, but you know they just need picks too. Yeah. 790 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,280 Speaker 3: Absolutely, let's get through another break. He is the Matt Williamson. 791 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 3: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive on 792 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 3: the Steelers Audio Network. We'll be back to finish up 793 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 3: the show right after this. 794 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,839 Speaker 1: At least is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt 795 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of the 796 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 797 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 2: And we're back. I am Dale Lolly. 798 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 3: He is the Matt Williamson and Matt of course, the 799 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 3: Steelers play their preseason finale on Saturday at one o'clock 800 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 3: in Detroit. When we come back on Monday, what are 801 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 3: we talking about? 802 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 4: Boy? 803 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 2: Russell Wilson looked a lot better. I'm not super worried 804 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 2: about him. He's not totally shot. 805 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:10,919 Speaker 4: He doesn't stink. 806 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 2: He talks about the last week. 807 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 4: He's completing passes and they're protecting him and they're moving 808 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 4: the ball. I think that's to be expected, and I'll 809 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 4: be disappointed if it doesn't happen. Maybe three or four 810 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 4: young guys that make a case in the second half 811 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 4: of I wasn't sure if he was gonna make the team, 812 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 4: But now he just made a stronger case for himself, 813 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 4: and I hope we could keep that guy around in 814 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 4: some way, shape or form. What else? 815 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,840 Speaker 3: What I hope we're not talking about is, boy, what 816 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,399 Speaker 3: are they gonna do without this guy? 817 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:47,760 Speaker 4: Right? Yes, that's a big concern. Another O line injury 818 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 4: would really worry me. A corner injury would really worry me. 819 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 4: What else. 820 00:37:56,040 --> 00:38:00,120 Speaker 3: I think we could be saying, Boy, Keonu Benton, he 821 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 3: looks like he might be on the edge of stardom here. 822 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 4: I think he is no matter what. Yeah, I really 823 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 4: do believe that. And I need to go look at 824 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 4: his snap counts for the first two preseason games. But 825 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 4: I think they're kind of just saying I don't need 826 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 4: to see anything the kind of him. Yeah, yeah, a 827 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 4: little bit like of course he's gonna dress. He's not 828 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,879 Speaker 4: getting Cam's treatment, nor should he. But I don't need 829 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 4: to see anymore. You know, it will unleash you in 830 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:25,359 Speaker 4: a couple of weeks. 831 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 2: I want to see ogun Joby play like he did 832 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 2: last week. 833 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,720 Speaker 3: That was very If Ogu Joby can play like that, yeah, 834 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,240 Speaker 3: this this defense could be scary. 835 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 4: It could be nasty. That front would be really something 836 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 4: I've always this isn't a knock on. Every player is different. 837 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 4: I think less of Ogan Joby is more, you know, 838 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,399 Speaker 4: Like I think if he's playing sixty snaps a game, 839 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 4: he's not as effective per snap than when he plays forty. 840 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 4: But he doesn't have to play sixty, right, you know 841 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 4: what I mean? I mean, even if one of them's hurt, 842 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 4: he's still you can mix in Leal on throwing downs, 843 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,959 Speaker 4: you can. Benton's going to get a bump. Benton hardly 844 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 4: played on third downs last year. Yeah, I'm fine with 845 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,359 Speaker 4: Benton being out there on third and eight, him, him 846 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,240 Speaker 4: and Cam or him and Ogen Joby. I mean, that's fine. 847 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 3: I want it to be an it like, I want 848 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:12,800 Speaker 3: them to be looking at this and going, well, okay, 849 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 3: who's who do we put out there? 850 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 4: Yeah? 851 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:16,800 Speaker 2: Because we got too many guys. 852 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 4: I mean, between Cam, Ogan Joby and Benton, if they 853 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 4: could all play close to equal snaps and keep them 854 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 4: as fresh as possible. 855 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 2: I'm not I don't mind putting montrevious sALS out there. 856 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 4: I don't either. 857 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:31,760 Speaker 3: He showed me a lot. 858 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 4: Oh he's a good football player. Yeah, yeah, I think 859 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 4: he's a useful any down a distant situation. He's not 860 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:40,880 Speaker 4: ideal on third and eight, don't get me wrong, but 861 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,360 Speaker 4: he is not just a plugger. He can run, he 862 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,839 Speaker 4: can get upfield. He's useful. Yeah, there's no doubt about it. 863 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 3: And I'm interested to see again we all. You know, 864 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 3: I think he's gonna get an opportunity is standing up 865 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 3: this week? Can he then also kick inside in the 866 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 3: same game and yeah, yeah, get some pass rush up 867 00:39:58,400 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 3: the field. 868 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,399 Speaker 4: He gives you a little bit of a Nascar feel 869 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 4: to it if you can be a true d tackle 870 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 4: on nickel dime that kind of thing, stunts and loops 871 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:07,760 Speaker 4: and things like that. 872 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 3: And that's not as easy as I think a lot 873 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 3: of people might think. No, No, it's a much different 874 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,240 Speaker 3: pass rush skill set off the edge than it is inside. 875 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,359 Speaker 4: Very much so. Like I remember when the Giants with 876 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 4: like straight hand and tuck and those guys start inventing 877 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,360 Speaker 4: that stuff, and it's like, oh, everybody should do it, 878 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:29,280 Speaker 4: Like not necessarily. You got to really fight in tight quarters. 879 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,239 Speaker 4: If you're going to line up over a guard or 880 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 4: in the a gap and you know. 881 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,359 Speaker 2: You can get double teams, you're gonna get all that. 882 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,399 Speaker 4: You're gonna bang a lot there's a couple. I mean, 883 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 4: think about what Garrett et cetera. There's several steps you 884 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 4: often don't get touched, you know, several steps before the 885 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 4: first contact. Not what every team's trying to change that 886 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 4: with a tight end or a running back or whatever. 887 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 4: But that's a different world. Then I'm making contact with 888 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,279 Speaker 4: you now, and that first step, I'm getting my hands 889 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,880 Speaker 4: on you. You know. But that being said, Leol has 890 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 4: done a lot of it. Yeah, I mean, I don't 891 00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 4: question that. 892 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 3: He can get in college. He's done it right, done 893 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 3: in the pros. That's the thing with him is that 894 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 3: he's actually done it. 895 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 4: He's done it. Yeah, he may be more detackled than end. 896 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 4: You know, we're kind of figuring that out. Another odd one, 897 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:13,840 Speaker 4: since we're talking D line, Lowry might be one of 898 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:15,439 Speaker 4: the best players on the field in the second half, 899 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Like he's been around the block, 900 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 4: he's he knows how to play in this league. I 901 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 4: don't know how much he'll play, but like if he's 902 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 4: playing against third string guards, he should be making plays 903 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 4: in the back. 904 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:25,719 Speaker 2: He should be tossing guys out of the bar. 905 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, Like, Okay, you're gone, I'm a I'm an 906 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 3: NFL player, you're not. Yeah, yeah, and that's what you 907 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,319 Speaker 3: want to see with those guys who are. That's that 908 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,360 Speaker 3: to me was you know, the big thing with Watts 909 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 3: last week. He's out there in the fourth quarter and 910 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 3: he was clearly the best guy in the field. 911 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,280 Speaker 4: On the best on the field. And I'm not picking 912 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 4: on Fields, but he hads that look about him late 913 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 4: in the game too. 914 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, but gets excited. 915 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 3: Everybody got all excited like, look, yeah, he should be 916 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 3: dominating these guys. 917 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,320 Speaker 4: And I was a little critical of Fields and that. Okay, 918 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 4: he had some nice runs in the second half, but 919 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 4: he's running when he wasn't pressured sit in the pocket 920 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 4: and do quarterback stuff. 921 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. I know you can run. 922 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 2: We all know you can run. 923 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,240 Speaker 3: And you're out there playing with a bunch of future 924 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 3: Amazon doc workers. It's not get too carried away here. 925 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,719 Speaker 4: Right, And it's different if it's Week ten against Baltimore 926 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 4: and you're ripping off twenty five yard runs because we 927 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 4: know he can do that, we know you can do it. 928 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 4: You know, that's great that you always have that ace 929 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,880 Speaker 4: up your sleeve. But if you're not getting pressured in 930 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,320 Speaker 4: the pocket, stand in there and wait for routes to develop. 931 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,239 Speaker 4: You know you could do more of that. Yeah. 932 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:26,879 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 933 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 3: Are we talking about only. 934 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 2: Two quarterbacks playing this game? We need to see Allen. 935 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,400 Speaker 3: I don't think you do. Yeah, I don't think you do. 936 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 3: I think you played well Fields like crazy. 937 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:38,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. Because and. 938 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,840 Speaker 3: Again, the national narrative and the narrative with some Steeler 939 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 3: fans is going to be what it is. 940 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 2: Russell Wilson's their starting quarterback. 941 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Fields has the better game. It's not 942 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,320 Speaker 4: apples to apples. It's not going to change who starts 943 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:54,840 Speaker 4: in Atlanta. 944 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 2: I don't. 945 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 3: I don't think one iota. No. 946 00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,360 Speaker 4: I mean, frankly, if it was Kenny Pickett, if it 947 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,839 Speaker 4: was Rudolph for whoever, I would play them a ton 948 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,080 Speaker 4: in this game. Yeah, get Wilson some snaps, have some success, 949 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 4: get them out and then. 950 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 2: Develop the other talented player. 951 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. 952 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 3: I don't need to see Allen, No, I don't. I 953 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 3: don't either. I want to see Peyton Wilson. Yeah, have 954 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,359 Speaker 3: a good game. I want to see him out there 955 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,319 Speaker 3: directing traffic and the nickel and dime when Patrick Queen 956 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:22,319 Speaker 3: is no longer out there. 957 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:23,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a great one. 958 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,720 Speaker 3: And I want to see him doing that stuff when 959 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,959 Speaker 3: they're in their base, when it's him and Robinson out there. 960 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would assume that's a lot of second half 961 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 4: snaps will be him and Robinson. Yeah, how about one 962 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,319 Speaker 4: of those Moon or Wegman or one of those type 963 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:40,760 Speaker 4: of dudes. 964 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 2: Can they make enough of an impact? 965 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 3: They're gonna have to do something on special teams because 966 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 3: this team seems really intent on Leal being that with outsideline. 967 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,760 Speaker 2: Backer's say, can one of them get two second half sacks? 968 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,480 Speaker 3: I don't know if I don't know if that does it. 969 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,239 Speaker 3: I think I think it has to be special teams plays. Yeah, 970 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:01,440 Speaker 3: I think you've got to go out there and do 971 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,719 Speaker 3: something on teams as it makes them go wow, maybe 972 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:04,919 Speaker 3: we got to take a look at this. 973 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 4: Or he hasn't been great with his special teams assignments. 974 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,759 Speaker 4: And he was totally sound and made nice play and 975 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 4: was good under you Like, that's that's a tough guy 976 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,480 Speaker 4: to keep. Yeah, that's that fourth out side line. 977 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,719 Speaker 2: You're probably looking at practice squad. That just gets you 978 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 2: onto the practice room. 979 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,319 Speaker 4: You have a conversation with him like, hey, we're gonna 980 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 4: release you, but we're gonna skoop you right back up 981 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,400 Speaker 4: if you if you pass waivers. 982 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I want to see the young cornerbacks. 983 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, this would be about I mean, can we be 984 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 3: talking about, Wow, that was a heck of a pick 985 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 3: Darius Rushhead or DeMont you know, or Corey trace was 986 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:37,640 Speaker 3: you know that was that was a really nice pass 987 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:38,640 Speaker 3: break up you had. 988 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,479 Speaker 4: Or even just lines receivers did nothing this day? Yeah, 989 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 4: you know again, you're not You're gonna get Hendon Hooker 990 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,440 Speaker 4: throwing to not Saint Brown and they're not a deep receiver. 991 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 2: Room is he one of the other brothers not Saint Brown. 992 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:58,880 Speaker 4: They've all got some weird Yeah, but you would just 993 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,759 Speaker 4: look and just think about the depth chart. Their receivers 994 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,759 Speaker 4: shouldn't be that daunting in the second half, particular, like 995 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,560 Speaker 4: when Trice and Rush are out there a lot, I 996 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:09,880 Speaker 4: want them to shut these dudes. 997 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,680 Speaker 2: You know, I think trust Trush and Rice might be 998 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 2: out there rushing Trice. You might see them early in 999 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,480 Speaker 2: a second in the first first half, Like, I don't. 1000 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:21,759 Speaker 3: Know that I need to see a lot of Joey 1001 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,879 Speaker 3: Quarter and Dante Jackson out there in this game. 1002 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,120 Speaker 4: True, I might play those guys seventy SAPs. 1003 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 3: They need as much playing time tomorrow to our point 1004 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 3: when we talked about earlier in the show, because they're 1005 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,760 Speaker 3: all so young, this is their first this is really 1006 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 3: the first preseason for the Steelers for both of them. 1007 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,600 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. More I think about it, 1008 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,839 Speaker 4: they might be almost full time players. 1009 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,719 Speaker 2: For me, I mean they I want those guys playing 1010 00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:44,600 Speaker 2: fifty snaps each. 1011 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't need to see the depth dudes that 1012 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:51,800 Speaker 4: aren't making the team. Yeah, I understand it. In the league, 1013 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 4: does it just to get out of games. But I 1014 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,880 Speaker 4: kind of hate the fourth quarters of the final games 1015 00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:57,440 Speaker 4: that they're. 1016 00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 3: Just running guys run, And yeah, they're. 1017 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,640 Speaker 4: Letting guys get some tape. And you know a lot 1018 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 4: of non football players out there, a lot of non 1019 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,239 Speaker 4: professionals out there. I get it, though, I mean they're 1020 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 4: kind of throwing you had a nice camp, you worked hard, 1021 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,239 Speaker 4: put something on tape for us. 1022 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:12,279 Speaker 2: I don't know how much of. 1023 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,319 Speaker 4: That we'll see from the Steelers. Yeah, I think they're 1024 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,920 Speaker 4: playing on more of a goal to get the traces 1025 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:18,720 Speaker 4: of the world as many snaps as possible. 1026 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,480 Speaker 3: I know Mike Toalman's not going to do it, because 1027 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:22,920 Speaker 3: he said he's probably not going to do it, But 1028 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,160 Speaker 3: Cordell Patterson returning a kick. 1029 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:29,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna be John Reice Plumbley again. I guess 1030 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:32,919 Speaker 2: what about like all the other backs too. 1031 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,400 Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind, you know, seeing some of those guys 1032 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,799 Speaker 3: do it and just see maybe he got something. 1033 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:38,360 Speaker 2: With one of these guys. 1034 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:42,000 Speaker 4: Yeah where I mean that group of other running backs 1035 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 4: I think have done reasonably well for themselves. Yeah, you know, 1036 00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,880 Speaker 4: I mean Ward and he didn't play last game, but 1037 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 4: I mean maybe he is. He backed for this one. 1038 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,640 Speaker 2: I don't even know, but I think he should be. 1039 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,120 Speaker 4: Somebody that would be interesting to put on the practice squad, 1040 00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,960 Speaker 4: and they've experimented with those guys returning kicks. I don't 1041 00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:59,480 Speaker 4: know Plumbley needs to be on the field at all. 1042 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,480 Speaker 3: It's nice that he's able to do all these other things, 1043 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 3: but right I need to see other guys doing these things. 1044 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:07,759 Speaker 4: I'm not sure he's great at them. Yeah, I mean, 1045 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,040 Speaker 4: I don't think he's gonna make people forget about Coldoral Patterson, 1046 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 4: you know, Y Turner. I mean, he's interesting player and 1047 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,279 Speaker 4: tough and I'm glad he's involved, but I don't think 1048 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:16,399 Speaker 4: he's going to take many of the house. 1049 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:22,400 Speaker 3: Might know he's got some got some moves there, but yeah, 1050 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,239 Speaker 3: you know, I think it's going to be I think 1051 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,600 Speaker 3: the main thing that we'll be talking about, though, is 1052 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,759 Speaker 3: the offense. And Okay, this is what this is what 1053 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,440 Speaker 3: has looked like in the training camp practice, is in 1054 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:34,880 Speaker 3: the joint practice with the Bills. 1055 00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:37,400 Speaker 2: This is what we've been seeing. 1056 00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, And then again, I don't think you're going 1057 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,359 Speaker 4: to see a lot of scheme stuff. I don't think 1058 00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,400 Speaker 4: you're Maybe you'll see some motion and play action, but 1059 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,880 Speaker 4: I don't think you're gonna see deep into the bag 1060 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,280 Speaker 4: of Arthur Smith tricks. 1061 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,480 Speaker 3: No, but maybe a little more twelve and thirteen personnel 1062 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:51,840 Speaker 3: in this game just because you want to. 1063 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,000 Speaker 2: You know, again, you're not showing exactly. 1064 00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,440 Speaker 3: And the great thing about Arthur Smith's offense, and I've 1065 00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,560 Speaker 3: heard this from multiple people, is that you get the 1066 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:03,320 Speaker 3: same a lot a lot, but you do different things off. 1067 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,279 Speaker 2: Different things out of it. Yeah, that's definitely a. 1068 00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,680 Speaker 3: Big It doesn't matter that you're in thirteen personnel. You 1069 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,040 Speaker 3: got forty seven different plays you can run. 1070 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,279 Speaker 4: Off of that, and this motion doesn't trigger that you're 1071 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:15,200 Speaker 4: going to this play. 1072 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,440 Speaker 3: Which was part of the problem with the Canada offense. 1073 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,239 Speaker 3: If you line up like this, you were gonna run 1074 00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 3: one to two plays. 1075 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,520 Speaker 4: It became a real trend. And even things like early 1076 00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 4: in the season when they were in shotgun they threw 1077 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,520 Speaker 4: a really high percentage of time. When they were in 1078 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:31,959 Speaker 4: behind center, they ran a high percentage of the time, 1079 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,080 Speaker 4: like things that were too easy to figure out. That 1080 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,440 Speaker 4: stuff won't be trends here. Yeah, so we'll see. I 1081 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:41,200 Speaker 4: think it should be a uh. I expect a better 1082 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 4: game this week. I just do because they've game planned 1083 00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:47,120 Speaker 4: for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And it sounds like an excuse, 1084 00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,160 Speaker 4: but I don't think the Bills or Steelers played their 1085 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,759 Speaker 4: best game two days after a very physical joint practice. Yeah. 1086 00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,759 Speaker 4: I mean, I think I've said this a bunch. You know, 1087 00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,960 Speaker 4: if it was Bills Nation Radio where you thrilled with 1088 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,640 Speaker 4: the performance game nine to three game, and I know 1089 00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,640 Speaker 4: Josh Allen didn't play, but a lot of you guys did. 1090 00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,560 Speaker 3: Nobody got the ball into the end zone. 1091 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,600 Speaker 4: No, no, And there was a starting offense minus your 1092 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,839 Speaker 4: quarterback too, should move football more. You know, the row 1093 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,040 Speaker 4: line got beat up too. I mean, Brusseau was fun 1094 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,000 Speaker 4: to talk about. But if I'm looking through the Bills perspective, 1095 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,040 Speaker 4: I wasn't like, man, we're going away. Yeah, well we 1096 00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 4: got nothing to worry about, right, Yeah, So. 1097 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,040 Speaker 3: We'll see, we'll see I I yeah, we'll see what 1098 00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:26,840 Speaker 3: we're talking about when we come back on Monday. But 1099 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,400 Speaker 3: we will be back on Monday. I can't wait for that. 1100 00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,479 Speaker 3: But uh, that's going to do it for today's show. 1101 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,080 Speaker 3: So for my partner Matt Williamson for Justin Miller here 1102 00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,280 Speaker 3: on site keeping us on the air, I am Dale, Lolly. 1103 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,680 Speaker 3: We thank you for listening to this edition at the 1104 00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:43,880 Speaker 3: Drive on the Steelers Audio Network