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Speaker 1: I love that line, all right. John Middlecoff, former NFL scout,

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Speaker 1: joining us four for four, four great playoff games. The

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Speaker 1: league is just fine without the Kansas City Chiefs in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. That's the difference between the NBA in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: between baseball and the NFL. Mahomes Burrow, Lamar jackson Out.

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Speaker 1: Best wild card weekend I ever remember.

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Speaker 2: Four for four.

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Speaker 1: San Francisco and a superior coaching staff beat Philadelphia twenty

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Speaker 1: three to nineteen. By the way, the Eagles went up

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Speaker 1: thirteen to seven and then they went three and out

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Speaker 1: and four of their next five drives. I thought it

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Speaker 1: was really an indictment. This is, you know, John, like

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Speaker 1: the truth eventually comes out the fact that Kyle Shanahan

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Speaker 1: can go into this game, lose George Kittle early, doesn't

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Speaker 1: have Warner, doesn't have Bosa, hasn't had Ayuk all year.

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Speaker 1: You go into pretty much a stack croster that you

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Speaker 1: could argue the weather favors Philadelphia. They don't like to

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Speaker 1: throw the ball, pretty throws two picks and San Francisco wins.

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Speaker 1: The gap between Shanahan in Sirianni, I still contend Sirianni's

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Speaker 1: a coordinator, but you know, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson won a Super Bowl with nick Fole. Shit happens.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was so an indictment on the Philadelphia

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think that's one of the worst

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Speaker 2: playoff losses you'll ever see. I mean, the forty nine ers,

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Speaker 2: they lose their best player with what in the first

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Speaker 2: quarter with the torn achilles, So the ramifications, the ripple

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Speaker 2: effects that has, and he's best friends with yus Jack McCaffrey.

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Speaker 2: They don't flinch. Sirianni doesn't do anything to impact the game, right,

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Speaker 2: he doesn't call the place, So it's it's it's Kevin

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Speaker 2: Patola and Vic Fangio against Kyle and Robert Salad, which

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Speaker 2: is a massive advantage the Eagles. You know, it's reported

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Speaker 2: this morning Lane Johnson right was gonna go and then

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Speaker 2: he couldn't go. Well, that doesn't impact this game because

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Speaker 2: the forty nine ers can't rush the passer. You know,

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Speaker 2: Charles Haley a walking through that door to me to

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Speaker 2: get two interceptions from Brock, especially the one in the

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Speaker 2: second half. The Niners are up by one point, they're

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Speaker 2: in full control. There's what seven eight minutes left to go.

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Speaker 2: When he throws that interception Colin against a good playoff team,

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Speaker 2: that game would be over on the road, it would.

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Speaker 2: But the Eagles, they're two interceptions. They got three points

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Speaker 2: total out of it. They can't move the ball at

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Speaker 2: the end. You can always manipulate a little bit when

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Speaker 2: you go in that two minute up tempo. Most teams

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Speaker 2: in the NFL move it more than they normally do.

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Speaker 2: But with that much talent on the field, and listen,

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Speaker 2: aj Brown is a fantastic talent. But if you're gonna

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Speaker 2: talk that much and hate on your quarterback that much

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Speaker 2: and make that much money, you got to come through

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Speaker 2: because listen, if the Niners lose this game, party would have,

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Speaker 2: you know, bore some responsibility. You can't turn the ball

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Speaker 2: over in the second half because you're in the game.

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Speaker 2: The game's weird. You got a shot, but you got

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Speaker 2: to give him credit. They got the ball back. He

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Speaker 2: drove him right down the field. He made a big run.

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Speaker 2: He made some big throws. Mental toughness right there, Colin

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Speaker 1: By the way, you know, I've defended Darnold on interceptions.

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Speaker 1: Brock Perty had two today. He's still out played Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 1: I just don't And by the way, one of Pretty's

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Speaker 1: I mean aj Brown twice they threw the ball down

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Speaker 1: I thought between the opening drive, the trick play, and

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Speaker 1: It just to me it was just a masterclass in

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Speaker 1: winning a rough, tough, few mistake road game. That's how

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Speaker 1: you win in the NFL when you don't play perfect well.

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Speaker 2: Listen to Kyle in niner Land, right, it's a it's

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Speaker 2: an intense fan base. The expectations are high, can get criticized.

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Speaker 2: He was eight and four coming into this game in

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Speaker 2: You know, Sirianni had a good playoff record coming into this.

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Speaker 2: But we all look at their team and go, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's a lot of how like you watch this game,

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Speaker 2: and us check, DeMarcus Robinson, Colin. They're throwing the guys

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Speaker 2: You know, Eric Kendricks felt like was out of the

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Speaker 2: on their seventh eight to ninth linebackers. They have no

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Speaker 2: pass rush. They are dead last in the league, you know,

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Speaker 2: But we all go, it's not really their fault. They're

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Speaker 2: just missing everybody. You know that Nick bosas third on

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Speaker 2: everyone in the NFL, I mean the two coaches today,

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Speaker 2: it ain't even close. And this was say what you

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Speaker 2: want about Kyle, and this is the thing I always respect.

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Speaker 2: We'll get into McVeigh. A lot of these young coaches,

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Speaker 2: they get pass happy solidly. These are fantastic coaches. Kyle's

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Speaker 2: old school man. He will run it even early in

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Speaker 2: the game with the Kyle call some passes. He is

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Speaker 2: he is wired much more like a guy from his

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Speaker 2: do they do tonight? They made this game weird and

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Speaker 2: the Eagles that they've played in that game, what seventeen

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Speaker 2: times this year that they ended up winning a lot

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Speaker 2: of them. But today they got into a spot where,

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Speaker 2: like this coaching staff and Brock a lot of experience,

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Speaker 2: mental toughness. We'll talk about this. I'm sure during the

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Speaker 2: draft time upstairs. You and I have talked about this before,

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Speaker 2: just playing the position. But I thought when he threw

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Speaker 2: he's not mental experience, Like that's why they like him,

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Speaker 2: you know. Even me. I was like, I'm like, they're

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Speaker 1: I mean, they also had a really bad punt that

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia got a field goal out of two interceptions. There

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Speaker 2: You could have sky Moore caught a punt at the

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Speaker 1: I honestly, I will say I'm not into firing People's

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Speaker 1: Brandon Staley was about as hard as I've ever been

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Speaker 1: But I do think there's a discussion. Sirianni's barking it.

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Speaker 1: I mean at aj Brown, this is embarrassing. I mean

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Speaker 1: Stan Francisco walked in, and remember vict Fangio is a

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Speaker 1: I mean you and I both know that Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 1: I mean I always laugh people in Philadelphia, they know

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Speaker 1: And I always say, I love his intangibles. I think

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Speaker 1: he's a great kid, great at the podium, great leader, tough, resilient,

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Speaker 1: and he does throw a nice deep ball. But you

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Speaker 1: can see the limitations here. On that final drive, two

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Speaker 1: balls were almost intercepted. I mean they I thought they

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Speaker 1: got that. Hurts got that huge Dallas Goddard completion, then

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Speaker 2: Well. And the other thing is Tom was showing that

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Speaker 2: with the wind throw it down. Well, It's like, Tom,

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Speaker 2: you're six five sixty six, so you could look down.

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Speaker 2: Brock can't, Like, he can't even attempt that to throw

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Speaker 2: it down. He's just not tall enough. But the one

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Speaker 2: thing Perdy does that Jalen just no longer does is

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Speaker 2: leans into his legs. That there were times if Jay,

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Speaker 2: if the Eagles wanted to win this game, Jalen should

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Speaker 2: have had fifteen carries today because the forty nine ers

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Speaker 2: never would have stopped it. They're playing with third stringers linebacker.

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Speaker 2: They're playing with the guy that probably thought he was

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Speaker 2: He the conversation. Forty nine er fans know a lot

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Speaker 2: about this, the Russell thing that happened, right, I want

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Speaker 2: to be a pocket quarterback, Russell. Lean into your skill,

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Speaker 2: your skills an all timer. You're the greatest playmaker we've

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Speaker 2: ever seen Jalen's a great playmaker, but he won't. He

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Speaker 2: does not work, and the OC's done. I mean, he's

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Speaker 2: one thing in Philly they will not to Alright, that'll

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Speaker 2: he'll be, I'm sure fired in the next forty eight hours.

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Speaker 2: He was already in trouble. But it's you could bring

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Speaker 2: he's not gonna move, I don't care if Walsh is

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Speaker 2: Kyle's offense is predicated a lot on party and Pertty

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Speaker 2: has no problem. He'll take off and run. It's not like, well,

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Speaker 1: During the tire Sirianni preaches, win the turnover battle. You're

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Speaker 2: You get a second half intercept.

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Speaker 1: And again, I'll say it, when you watch great coaching,

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Speaker 2: I got one for you really quick, Colin. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think he'd be great, but I don't think he works.

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Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski. I would who doesn't have any interest in

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Speaker 2: They already got the defense set up, you got the

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Speaker 1: Forty nine ers. Now we'll go to Seattle. Seattle is

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Speaker 1: I think I would probably take both dogs. I would

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Speaker 1: playing from behind on the road, being totally dependent on

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Speaker 1: one guy isn't a recipe for success. You know, somebody

426
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Speaker 1: had said it, whoever won that game is going to win,

427
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Speaker 1: is going to win the AFC. I don't believe. I mean, listen,

428
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Speaker 1: Josh Allens is as good a football player if I've

429
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Speaker 1: ever seen in my life. I mean, I'll just say

430
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Speaker 1: that he's as good a football player in the history

431
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Speaker 1: of the game I put him. I think he's better

432
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Speaker 1: than Elway. I think he's better than Marino. I think

433
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Speaker 1: he's I think he's more talented than Mahomes. I just

434
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Speaker 1: don't know how long forget a superhero. He's like Zeus,

435
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Speaker 1: He's like a god among gods. Like it's just a

436
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Speaker 1: different level of player. What was your big take? I mean,

437
00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 1: by the way he got checked for concussion, he twisted

438
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,119
Speaker 1: his knee, so he was not playing in one hundred percent,

439
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Speaker 1: and yet he wins in Jacksonville. What'd you make of it?

440
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Speaker 2: I thought, you, like everyone, he was remarkable. That that

441
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:15,200
Speaker 2: was the Jags are really good, like really good. Now,

442
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 2: the quarterback was a little shaky, and that was a

443
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Speaker 2: big difference in the game. I thought, I mean, Josh

444
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,600
Speaker 2: dominated the game. The Cook, who is you know, one

445
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,120
Speaker 2: of the better non quarterback offensive players in the league,

446
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,680
Speaker 2: had forty six yards on the ground. But part of

447
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Speaker 2: that's Jacksonville. It's hard to run against them. I just

448
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:35,719
Speaker 2: thought Buffalo all their chips going into this game were

449
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Speaker 2: on him being a plus, and he was. His stats

450
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Speaker 2: don't even do him justice, right, this is the one

451
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Speaker 2: touchdown in the air he ran for two. But the

452
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Speaker 2: Toush pushes which bit them in the you know what

453
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Speaker 2: against the Chiefs, right, And they were mentioned this on

454
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Speaker 2: the broadcast. They told Dance Spagnola last year he likes

455
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Speaker 2: to go left on the Toush push. They knew it

456
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Speaker 2: was coming and he was just getting I mean the

457
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Speaker 2: one that went almost ten years parts. I don't know

458
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Speaker 2: where you stood. But when they had a minute left

459
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Speaker 2: and the Jags only had one time out, I probably

460
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Speaker 2: would have melt it and ran that thing down to

461
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 2: like twenty five seconds and then tried to just three

462
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Speaker 2: touch pushes because they had the timeouts. Their kicker in

463
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Speaker 2: Jacksonville can kick it from like eighty yards. The Bills

464
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Speaker 2: defense is obviously they made a great play but I

465
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Speaker 2: thought that was pretty bold just to score that fast.

466
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Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean I thought, you know, Jokic, it's

467
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 2: much more of an NBA operation, Steph Curry, Lebron, Kobe

468
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 2: in his prime, just a guy that's completely unstopable. You

469
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Speaker 2: don't really see that. I mean though, right because Peyton

470
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Speaker 2: Manning or Tom Brady's team were much more balanced, that's

471
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Speaker 2: not the case.

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Speaker 1: The Bears did it, and we'll get to them in

473
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Speaker 1: a minute. But the Bears scored very, very quickly, and

474
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Speaker 1: so I think sometimes in these playoff games, I mean,

475
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Speaker 1: Jacksonville doesn't get to the playoffs much. They just want

476
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Speaker 1: the points. You know, They're just gonna take the points.

477
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Speaker 1: Chicago didn't get to the playoffs much. They're facing Green Bay.

478
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Speaker 1: If we can take a touchdown. That's what Lincoln Riley

479
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Speaker 1: said when they took the lead on Illinois. It's like,

480
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 1: we're on the road, I'm gonna take We're gonna go

481
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Speaker 1: for the touchdown. So I'll never rip a staff for

482
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Speaker 1: doing that. Like sometimes you're like, guys, this is foreign territory.

483
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Speaker 1: I'm not like I thought Ben Johnson got too cute

484
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Speaker 1: in his coaching. I think Liam Curry's like let's just

485
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Speaker 1: get in the end zone. Let's not worry about it.

486
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Speaker 1: If they beat us like that, then then we lost

487
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Speaker 1: to an all time great. You know when it's funny

488
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Speaker 1: about Buffalo. So like I didn't think Jacksonville played poorly,

489
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Speaker 1: they did get beat by the Rams soundly earlier this year.

490
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Speaker 1: Jacksonville's one of those teams, and I really failed to

491
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Speaker 1: buy into them all year until the last two weeks

492
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Speaker 1: when they beat Denver. I was like, Okay, I can't

493
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Speaker 1: deny this. Do we take something from this because they

494
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Speaker 1: they were Buffalo was a favorite in this game, and

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Speaker 1: I didn't get the line. I said, I don't understand

496
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Speaker 1: the line. I think it should be like I think,

497
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Speaker 1: I think Jacksonville should be like a three point favorite,

498
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Speaker 1: not a point and a half dog. Like I thought

499
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Speaker 1: the line was four points off.

500
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Speaker 2: But I think I think it flipped by kickoff. I

501
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 2: think it was like JAG's bos one. So I think

502
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,880
Speaker 2: a bunch of money came in on Buffalo over the.

503
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Speaker 1: Course of the I did think early in the game,

504
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 1: Sean McDermot and his staff I could see the plan,

505
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Speaker 1: like I thought they came and energized because they'd struggled

506
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Speaker 1: all year. As a first half team. But I watched

507
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Speaker 1: the first half and I was like, I kind of

508
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: felt like I was watching the plan and I was like, okay,

509
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 1: because my fear all week. I was like, oh, I

510
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 1: could see it being twenty one to three and Jacksonville

511
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Speaker 1: just coming out home playoff game. Buffalo's a slow starting team.

512
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Speaker 1: But I thought Buffalo's first half it's not just the

513
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Speaker 1: end of the game. I thought they'd played a really

514
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Speaker 1: strong first half. It was imperfect, but you know, I

515
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Speaker 1: said all year long, I don't trust Jacksonville. They're just released,

516
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: they're squirrely. I don't trust them. Did you feel like

517
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Speaker 1: it was like are you disappointed with the Jags or

518
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Speaker 1: do you feel like you know it's just the first

519
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 1: Liam Cohen step and this is it's always been about

520
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Speaker 1: and playoff football.

521
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 2: Well, their team is really talented, but their quarterback had

522
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 2: been lights out the last two months of the season.

523
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,360
Speaker 2: I mean he had been in December. He was There

524
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 2: was not a hotter team coming into the NFL, and

525
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Speaker 2: he was a massive part of it. Today, I thought

526
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,719
Speaker 2: he was all over the map. I mean, obviously he

527
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 2: made some nice passes, but there were passes he was

528
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 2: putting it into Harm's way constantly. There was a gap.

529
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Speaker 2: This happens in the NBA series. A lot right. Pick

530
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 2: the team with the best player is usually the old

531
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 2: adage when gambling on a playoff series in the NBA.

532
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Speaker 2: That was kind of my logic in this game, because

533
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Speaker 2: I think if you reverse the quarterbacks and push Josh

534
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Speaker 2: Allen on the Jags, Jags would win this thing, like

535
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Speaker 2: thirty five to ten. They would kill them. It would

536
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Speaker 2: if you told me Josh Allen's on the Jags roster.

537
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Speaker 2: I think the Jags would cruise some Super Bowl in

538
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Speaker 2: the AFC. And Trevor had like taken the step and

539
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 2: been like, Okay, this is the guy that we had

540
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 2: kind of anointed. They gave two hundred million dollars to

541
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Speaker 2: last year, and today I thought, actually they got a

542
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 2: little pass half. I get when McVeigh does it. It's

543
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 2: like I don't always agree, but it's like he's got Stafford,

544
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 2: he leans on him, okay, or Andy, he's got Mahomesy.

545
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 2: Like Trevor was shaky, you were. They were running it

546
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 2: for over six yards of Carrie etn a ten carries

547
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 2: for almost seventy yards. John the Twutin guy had four

548
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 2: carries for fifty yards. He was and his longest run

549
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:21,360
Speaker 2: was twenty, so it's not like he had a forty

550
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,959
Speaker 2: yard run. They were having. The Bills are not. They

551
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 2: have a lot of guys on defense beside their d

552
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 2: line's good, but their safeties and linebackers aren't exactly you know,

553
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 2: John Lynch and ray Lewis, so you can push. That's

554
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 2: the thing with Baltimore when they lost him last year,

555
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 2: It's like, how did you guys not just lean on them?

556
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 2: When you get pass happy in the NFL, look at

557
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 2: the diners. Weird things can happen. dB can kind of

558
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 2: stay in your hip pocket, a ball gets tipped, the

559
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 2: ball's picked, and I thought, you know Liam Cohen, I

560
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 2: understand his quarterback had a bunch of momentum, but you

561
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,679
Speaker 2: can feel it out in the game, like, hey, Trevor's

562
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 2: a little off. And the other thing that benefited Buffalo

563
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 2: is you watch Chicago, you watch Philly were it's freezing cold.

564
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 2: I mean people were in the pool. There benefit Josh

565
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 2: Allen to play in a seventy degree day. Yeah.

566
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Speaker 1: And the other thing is when I look at that game,

567
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 1: is that like I love Parker Washington. I mean the

568
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: fact that he was a sixth round pick. There's so

569
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: much talent in this league. Kittle's a fifth round pick,

570
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 1: Parker Washington is six. I think brock Perty's a seventh.

571
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,439
Speaker 1: I think Jennings is a six or a seventh for

572
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. There's so much damn talent in

573
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Speaker 1: the NFL. I mean, there's so much talent just spread

574
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 1: across the world. Parker Washington is I'm trying to think

575
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: of the great ab was a sixth round draft pick,

576
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: the great mel Gray was a sixth round draft pick.

577
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 1: Parker Washington sixth round draft Like, there's been great players

578
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 1: in the sixth round at wide receiver, and that's a

579
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: position there's just a lot of, you know, especially in

580
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 1: the last ten years. But when I look at Trevor

581
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: Lawrence Is, I think it was one of those things.

582
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: He was so good as a freshman at Clemson, beating Alabama.

583
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: He was so good in high school, he was so

584
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: good in college that I think I always just put

585
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: him in this elite Andrew Luck class, and when I

586
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: watch him play, I think he's really good. He's not

587
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 1: a great talent. He's a good quarterback. His arm is good.

588
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: It's not great. His athletic ability is good, it's not

589
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: it's it's not like a plus plus. I think he's

590
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: a good quarterback, but I think I've just overvalued him

591
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 1: because I liked him so much in college. I was

592
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: I mean, you beat Nick Saban and the Dynasty as a

593
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: freshman and you're like key to the game. It's like,

594
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: I just couldn't unsee that, and I just for years.

595
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: And it's funny because Greg Cosell very early came on

596
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: my show. It was like year two of Josh Allen

597
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: and he goes, Trevor Lawrence is not close to Josh Allen.

598
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: He goes, I'm just telling you what the tape says.

599
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: Josh Allen is going to be so much better. And

600
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, really, okay, Well, I mean Trevor's banged up,

601
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: and I think I've just always overvalued Trevor, who is

602
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: a good quarterback, but he's not. You watch Caleb Williams

603
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: on a couple of those throws. That fourth and eight

604
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: throw with five forty left by Caleb Williams is one

605
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: of the best throws I've ever seen in a football

606
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: game by a quarterback, a right hander throwing moving left.

607
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: I'm just watching him like I don't even know what

608
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: that and then they show it from behind Caleb and

609
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: you're like, what the hell did he see? Like how

610
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: did he do that?

611
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 2: Well, there are three guys. There are three guys in

612
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 2: the league that could have pulled that off, obviously Caleb,

613
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 2: Josh and Justin Herbert. And now looking back, Josh and

614
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert, I think we'd all agree are just pure

615
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 2: talent wise, as talented as any human beings that have

616
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 2: played in this league. When you talk about size, speed

617
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 2: and arm, you know, velocity. Thing with Trevor Lawrence, he's

618
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 2: much closer to the to the Manning crew in terms

619
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 2: of arm strength Philip Rivers in his prime, but he's

620
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 2: not that accurate. He's not mister Accuracy. So like part

621
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 2: of it is like he was with this great prospect

622
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 2: like Luck or Peyton Manning, because that was the buzz

623
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 2: when he was coming out. But part Luck had a

624
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 2: better arm and was much more of a physical player.

625
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 2: You know, Trevor has some times when he's running he

626
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 2: gets tackled, like he goes down. You know, Josh gets

627
00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 2: tackled he's flying forward. But I'm looking this, he threw

628
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 2: sixty percent and I think Brady and Peyton Mannaby the

629
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 2: first to tell you, like, do you watch this league now,

630
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 2: if you're not in the high sixties with the rules

631
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 2: on your side, that's a problem in an offensive oriented league,

632
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 2: and that they're pretty loaded offensively with talent. So I listen,

633
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 2: he's much improved. I think the thing that you have

634
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 2: to be excited for if you're Jacksonville, you know I

635
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 2: had him in like that to a world like this

636
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 2: guy making a lot of money, he's you can win

637
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Speaker 2: with him if you build the team. But like I

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Speaker 2: A'm betting on this guy in a playoff game when

639
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Speaker 2: he's playing Josh Allen or Jill Burrow or Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 2: because there's a gap there that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not an effort, he's not a first tier guy,

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Speaker 1: and that's okay. He's not justin Herbert. I don't think

643
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Speaker 1: he's c J. Stroud. C J. Stroud's accurate, like like Trevor's.

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Speaker 1: I think to your point, his delivery is a little long.

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Speaker 1: I just don't think he's a terribly accurate thrower. And

646
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Speaker 1: by the way, either is Caleb. But Caleb gives you

647
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Speaker 1: so much horsepower that you can't I mean I've said this,

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Speaker 1: and let's just go to that game. Chicago thirty one,

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Speaker 1: Green Bay twenty seven, nine hundred total yards is and

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Speaker 1: I said this after the game, I did like a

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Speaker 1: YouTube hit and I said, you know the boxes that

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Speaker 1: Lway checked, durable, unbelievable in the fourth quarter, huge arm.

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Speaker 1: We'll throw some picks, but not that many. You never

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Speaker 1: really looked at him as he was accurate, but that

655
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Speaker 1: wasn't his game. His game was durable, tough, smart, great

656
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Speaker 1: in the fourth, doesn't get hurt, doesn't throw picks in

657
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Speaker 1: the big spots late in games. That's kind of Caleb

658
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Speaker 1: Williams like, I know, you know Green Bay fans all

659
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Speaker 1: want to fire Matt Lafleur. But the truth is Green

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Speaker 1: Bay fans were a little delusional John with Farvan Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: Between those two for thirty years they got They got

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Speaker 1: two Super Bowls and only three trips. They don't get

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Speaker 1: free agents, they don't pay like other teams often do

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Speaker 1: for core coordinators. When you don't have an owner, you

665
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Speaker 1: can't make those decisions on the tarmac like Stan Kronky

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Speaker 1: can make. And when I look at green Bay once

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Speaker 1: they lose Michael Parsons it's okay, but they lost also

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Speaker 1: Kenny Clark and Micah Parsons because Kenny Clark in the

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Speaker 1: trade of Dallas and at the end of that game.

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Speaker 1: You know this, John, By the time you get to

671
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Speaker 1: the end of a playoff game, it's three and a

672
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Speaker 1: half hours of football. Your defense usually isn't at its best.

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Speaker 1: Those big uglies up front are tired. And Caleb Williams

674
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Speaker 1: had a little extra time. He moved out of the

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Speaker 1: pocket four or five times, and he just those guys

676
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Speaker 1: are tired. These are three hundred and thirty pound guys,

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Speaker 1: and so I mean, everybody, everybody wants to pile on.

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Speaker 1: But I think what the Bears did Saturday, John, this

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Speaker 1: is what they are. They've done this like six times.

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Speaker 1: This is what they are.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, listen, you've been talking about this. I

682
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Speaker 2: talked about it last night on the podcast. Is you

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Speaker 2: know Caleb part of when you discuss the draft prospect

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Speaker 2: and you talk ceiling. He has one of the great

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Speaker 2: arms we've ever seen. He's one of the great playmakers

686
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Speaker 2: we've ever seen. Physically, his ability to move is elite.

687
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Speaker 2: I'm talking behind the line of scrimmage, move and run.

688
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 2: Jordan Love was a first round pick at the end

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Speaker 2: of the first round. You know, Jordan Love is I

690
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Speaker 2: think Dak Prescott or Kirk Cousins good player, solid, but

691
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Speaker 2: his physical skills and he was a project once upon

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Speaker 2: a time. They're okay. He's got solid arm, pretty accurate

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Speaker 2: when he's in rhythm, can kind of move. Definitely not

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Speaker 2: the best athlete in his own quarterback room. Right, So

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Speaker 2: it's he's fine, but like you saw, the physical gifts

696
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Speaker 2: like both that both those two teams. Shit was kind

697
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Speaker 2: of hitting the fan. You need to make some stuff happen.

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Speaker 2: And one thing, Caleb, why you can't really nitpick on

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Speaker 2: the accuracy right now and listen, he's been inaccurate a

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Speaker 2: little bit, right, some balls are flying. He makes up

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Speaker 2: for it with these huge plays and obviously the play

702
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Speaker 2: might be played the year so far on that four

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Speaker 2: and eight, I mean save their season, right, twenty seven

704
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Speaker 2: to sixteen. For the eight, he throws it over. When

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Speaker 2: you really watch it in slow motion, there are three

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Speaker 2: guys in yellow right in front of him. One guy,

707
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Speaker 2: but you have to put it like layer the throw,

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Speaker 2: it's crazy. That's one of the great throws you've ever seen.

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Speaker 2: But so many other plays as the game went on,

710
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Speaker 2: he kind of gets rolling. You've been saying he's a

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Speaker 2: momentum player. Well, his momentum with this talent is unstoppable.

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Speaker 2: Like Trevor Lawrence's momentum player too, but he can only

713
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Speaker 2: do so much. When Josh Allen gets momentum, Holy you

714
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Speaker 2: know what, the avalanche is coming and there is no

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Speaker 2: stopping it. And the thing with the Bears, even unlike

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Speaker 2: the Bills, like Lovelin has a chance to be an

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Speaker 2: elite player in the NFL. DJ Moore had some drops,

718
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Speaker 2: but he's been a high level NFL player now for

719
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Speaker 2: what five six years. Roman Dunes was a top ten pick.

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Speaker 2: They got DeAndre Swift had the best year of his career.

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Speaker 2: The other running back seventh round pick, has been fantastic.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they got so much talent and they got

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Speaker 2: great guard center guard for smaller, shorter quarterback. Big picture,

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Speaker 2: I think they did lose their left tackle though at

725
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Speaker 2: the end of the game something, so that's not ideal.

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Speaker 2: But luckily, this is the thing with the Josh Allens,

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Speaker 2: the Calybs, even perty they've had, you gotta be able

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Speaker 2: to move. Jordan Love doesn't. Really, He's not a bad athlete.

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Speaker 2: But he's much closer to me, to like thirty five

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Speaker 2: year old Dak Prescott than he is to these mobile quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: The other thing is the first half is a coaching half.

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Speaker 1: To me, the second half you do need players to

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Speaker 1: make plays because you're off the script. The first half,

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Speaker 1: green Bay dominated, so don't blame Matt Lafleur. That was

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Speaker 1: basically when Jordan Love was in rhythm, on script, on

736
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Speaker 1: game plan. Jordan Love was rerealty good. In the second half.

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Speaker 1: Ben Johnson overthought the first half, a little desperate on

738
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Speaker 1: the going for it deep in his own territory. But

739
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Speaker 1: in the second half, that's a player's half. That's a

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen half. That's where Caleb Williams is shined. That's

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Speaker 1: where John Elway shined. That is not a knock on

742
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Speaker 1: Ben Johnson, but I thought Matt Lafleur won the first half, okay,

743
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Speaker 1: the second half is okay, quarterback versus quarterback. The gap

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00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: between Caleb and Jordan Love was substantial, Like it was.

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Speaker 1: It was a cleanup hitter and a six hitter like

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Speaker 1: it was like wow, And I actually thought Ben Johns

747
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Speaker 1: and got out coached, And that has not happened a

748
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Speaker 1: lot this year. I thought I thought the first two

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Speaker 1: two and a half quarters, I thought I thought Matt

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Speaker 1: Lafleur did a good job. But I do think ask

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Speaker 1: yourself people right now, and I guess the Bears are

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Speaker 1: more the topic than the Packers. But would would would

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Speaker 1: Matt Leaflor get a job instantly? Yes, despite blowing a

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Speaker 1: twenty one to three lead, he'd get a job in

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Speaker 1: forty eight hours. Be very careful. Green Bay far got

756
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Speaker 1: one Super Bowl title, Aaron Rodgers got one. And by

757
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: the way, the NFC is much better now than three

758
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 1: years ago. It's real. Okay, the Detroit Lions team that

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Speaker 1: beat Aaron Rodgers, remember that game when they when they

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Speaker 1: had a chance to win and go to the playoff. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Detroit's gonna land Mike McDaniel at coordinator. They're going to

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Speaker 1: be back. Chicago's for real. The Rams are going nowhere.

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia is going to get a legit coach or an

764
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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. So it's like, take a deep breath, green Bay,

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Speaker 1: don't pull a Cleveland fire Stefanski, and Stefanski's the leading

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Speaker 1: candidate for half his jobs. Chicago now will face the Rams.

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Speaker 1: So the Rams. Here's the good news for Chicago Matt Stafford,

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Speaker 1: especially on the road, he'll throw an ugly pick. Their

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Speaker 1: special teams are a liability every other game, like also

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Speaker 1: Luther Burden, Roma Dunze, Colston Lovelin. I don't love the corners.

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Speaker 1: I think the Rams safeties are pretty good. I think

772
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Speaker 1: their corners are. It's probably gonna be their first or

773
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Speaker 1: second draft pick. I think Chicago's got a fighter's chance

774
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Speaker 1: in this game, I really do. I think the Rams

775
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Speaker 1: are really good. I mean, Puka was we'll get to

776
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Speaker 1: that and say unstoppable. But I think the Bears match

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Speaker 1: up okay against the Rams at home.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The one thing Sean mcvayh will do that, you know,

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Speaker 2: Lafour tried to run the clock out in the second

780
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Speaker 2: half kind of he's in full and they couldn't. And

781
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Speaker 2: Dennis Allen deserves and the players deserve a lot of credit.

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Speaker 2: They just I don't know how many Josh Jay yards

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Speaker 2: he ran for minus the kickoff return, but had to

784
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Speaker 2: be under twenty. He had nowhere to go. Sean McVay

785
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 2: won't care. He wants to pass and sometimes he will

786
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 2: lean on Stafford too much. But the Bears dbs are

787
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Speaker 2: pretty bad right now, right Jalen Johnson.

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Speaker 1: They also lost the linebacker. They lost an edge guy,

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Speaker 1: So it's like, oh, brother, now.

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Speaker 2: Who's the hard and soul of the defense. From a

791
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Speaker 2: from a leadership standpoint call on the defense. They lose

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Speaker 2: their left tackle, which is not ideal, you know, against

793
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Speaker 2: a team with some good passage. Yeah, listen, the Rams

794
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 2: went through a weird stretch yesterday. I mean they look

795
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 2: like the team that for a couple of quarters against Arizona.

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Speaker 2: You're like Sean McVay had to look on his face

797
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 2: like I might just go to Amazon here in a week.

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Speaker 2: What are we doing guys? Like this is but where

799
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Speaker 2: you can take advantage of Chicago is those widers. I

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Speaker 2: mean Puka, I don't think we've ever seen a receiver

801
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 2: quite that plays like him, and DeVante is a pretty

802
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Speaker 2: special number two. Their tight ends, I'll catch the ball. Well,

803
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 2: they got multiple running backs and can catch the ball.

804
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 2: He can call screens. This is a more buttoned up

805
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 2: unit than Green Bay. But like it's not like you

806
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Speaker 2: get the Rams coming in with a ton of momentum.

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Speaker 2: I kind of came away from that team. It's like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I can see the Rams winning the NFC. I could

809
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Speaker 2: also see them losing to anybody, and like you said,

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be a freezing cold thing. Here's that this

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Speaker 2: fan base, Like there aren't that many Luca Jacksonville to day,

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Speaker 2: it just looked like a j hum NFL random October Sunday.

813
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Speaker 2: The Bears game feels like LSU at night, Like it

814
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Speaker 2: feels like something pretty, which is cool in this day

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Speaker 2: and age where you get online everyone hates each other,

816
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Speaker 2: like everyone coming together. I can't even imagine the experience

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Speaker 2: of those people walking out the stadium all going to

818
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Speaker 2: bars after. It had to be like a religious experience

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Speaker 2: being at that game against that team, so that the

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Speaker 2: because they have nothing to go back on, like at

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Speaker 2: least seattles, like a lot of the season ticket holders

823
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Speaker 2: have seen super Bowl level teams like this Bear's team.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is like Caleb didn't even get four

825
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Speaker 2: thousand yards. He's still throw for more yards than any

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Speaker 2: guy in the history of the franchise right this season.

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Speaker 2: So I just think that environment, Like you can tell

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Speaker 2: Eagles fans, I don't think they like this team because

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Speaker 2: they didn't trust Sirianni. They didn't trust Jalen Hurts the

830
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831
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853
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: You know, here's another advantage the Bears will have. I

854
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: was thinking about this today, is that you know, there's

855
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 1: not many pocket only quarterbacks left because Pretty actually really

856
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: moves exceptionally well.

857
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 2: He really does.

858
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 1: Pretty really moves. He's a real athlete. Jared Goff and Stafford,

859
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: you and I talked about this could have been last week.

860
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 1: If the initial play doesn't work for the Rams, it's over.

861
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: And sometimes Matt will uncork a really bad throw. You

862
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: go look at the last two drives for the Bears.

863
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: John If the play doesn't work, you have a separate play.

864
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:52,760
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams just you know, Romadunze, Luther Burden, Colston Lovin.

865
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: The Bears are young. Those guys are all young. They

866
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: haven't dealt with NFL injuries. I mean, Burden's a rookie.

867
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: Loveland Roma duns it, dude, there. They got kids out there.

868
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 1: Those guys are high energy guys, and it kind of

869
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: turns into a seven on seven drill when the play

870
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: breaks down. So you get Ben Johnson's play design and

871
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: play calling. Oh it doesn't work, Okay, we have a

872
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: second play. The Rams have a play, and if it

873
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: doesn't work, that's the end of the play. And so

874
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: four and a half points at home with that Ram secondary.

875
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: I just I mean, I watched Josh Allen today and

876
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: then I watched Caleb Williams last night, and I think

877
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 1: you and I know this. It feels like the Rams

878
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: peaked about six weeks ago. They're just not quite tight.

879
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: They had an injury, Kevin Dohnson didn't play, so they

880
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 1: had a couple of mistakes on the offensive line. They

881
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: just didn't feel I mean, I was sitting there at

882
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: one point thinking Caroline is going to beat the Rams twice.

883
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 2: I don't understand the league.

884
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:00,280
Speaker 1: I don't even understand it.

885
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 2: Same I. They just aren't as dominant as a pass rush.

886
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 2: I think as we thought they were going to be.

887
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: I mean, the I want to talk about this.

888
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 2: He's not He's not the most mobile guy. And even

889
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 2: he got away, Caleb's a completely thirty.

890
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: Four to thirty one Rams do beat Carolina. So I

891
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 1: keep hearing about Chris Shula. Oh boy, this is remember

892
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: when Brandon Staley was there? Oh this this this stay guy.

893
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: And I keep saying guys raheem Morris, Oh he was

894
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: around McVeigh. This guy's magic. Now he's fired again. I

895
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: keep hearing about Chrishula. Carolina went four for four in

896
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 1: the red zone Carolina. There were multiple times Carolina on

897
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: third down made huge plays. It's like, I got nothing

898
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:48,280
Speaker 1: against Chrishula. But I felt all year that the Rams

899
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 1: pass rush has kind of underachieved.

900
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 2: I just I don't.

901
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: I have a hard time watching the Rams defense and

902
00:44:56,280 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 1: seeing the great coaching. I see the talent Young, Verse,

903
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: Kobe Turner, Buonaford, I see the talent now an offense

904
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 1: with McVeigh, I see the coaching, But this defense, to me,

905
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: feels like it should be a little now. It was

906
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: very good on the final drive when they could pin

907
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: their ears back and Bryce Young was under duressed. And

908
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: you're like, okay, but that it should look like that

909
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 1: during the first, second and third quarters more often, is

910
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:26,760
Speaker 1: my point.

911
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 2: You know one thing that stood out to me in

912
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago, they when they lost to

913
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 2: Atlanta on Monday Night. Aikman mentioned something on that broadcast.

914
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 2: He said that McVeigh called Verse into his office because

915
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 2: he wanted to show him that he's playing well even

916
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 2: though he doesn't have that much to show for it.

917
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 2: To me, that show is like you know, I mean,

918
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 2: I was like, well, not that there's fractures internally, but

919
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 2: this guy was supposed to be one of the next,

920
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 2: I don't know, the next Khalil Mack. I would have

921
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 2: bet on him to take a huge step and be

922
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 2: one of the most dominant players in the league after

923
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 2: last year. And you just watched these games and you

924
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 2: don't feel his specific presence, and you know, sometimes power

925
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 2: guys they just I don't know. I thought his power

926
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 2: was just so overwhelming it wouldn't matter. But they are

927
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 2: going if they're gonna win the NFC these next couple

928
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 2: weeks against two, you know, it's gonna be really hard

929
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 2: for the Niners to win, but probably against Sam Darnold

930
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 2: and obviously Caleb Williams, they're gonna have to just get

931
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 2: constant pressure and it's gonna have to start with him,

932
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 2: like he's got to take over these games. And you're

933
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:32,240
Speaker 2: watching Carolina now, listen, McMillan's really talented player. That Cocher

934
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,919
Speaker 2: kids playing out of his mind. Laget was a high pick.

935
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 2: I mean they got down absolutely, but if you got Rice,

936
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 2: he should fold. He's not very big and they couldn't

937
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 2: get around him and he was just making plays. So

938
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,720
Speaker 2: I'm kind of out on the Rams just because something's

939
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 2: just off. I can't put my finger on it. But

940
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 2: you know, when you watch it, you go, I don't know,

941
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 2: something weird because that the way the game started. You

942
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 2: think they're gonna win this thing thirty to ten, and

943
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 2: they're up seventeen to seven driving, he goes for it,

944
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 2: doesn't get it. They come back score and up until

945
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 2: the last like five minutes of the game, they were

946
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 2: kind of against the ropes, way too much against a

947
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 2: team that listen, give give hat tip to Carolina for fighting,

948
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 2: but they should not be able to hold it within three. Again,

949
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 2: the Rams were didn't have points.

950
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again Rico doubt ol tea Mac. They've got

951
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: some offensive talent and Bryce Young. Here's my question, what

952
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: do you do with Bryce Young? I mean, he's good

953
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 1: enough to win that division, He's not good enough to

954
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 1: win a lot of divisions. I feel like he's he

955
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 1: would be one of those great bridge quarterbacks. He's a

956
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: little small for me, it's about five to eleven. He

957
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: did not have a big arm. He moves exceptionally well.

958
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: The players like him he's supposed to be. He's really

959
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 1: a good kid, like he's all in. I don't know

960
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: what to do with him. I think if you're Carolina,

961
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: if it was a great quarterback class, maybe that solves it.

962
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: It's not. So my take is, do you just extend him,

963
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 1: try to get a team friendly? What do you do?

964
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 2: I think Schefter said they're picking up his fifth year option.

965
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,240
Speaker 2: I did the math. It will work out to about

966
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 2: two years, thirty two million dollars. So I'm not into

967
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 2: giving him one of those two Jordan Love extensions. But

968
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones got fifteen million dollars this offseason, so essentially,

969
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 2: you're buying two years of bridge quarterback play while you

970
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 2: keep figuring it out. They do have some talent on

971
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 2: their team. Six weeks ago, I would have been like that,

972
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 2: it's insane. You watch him down the stretch, you go

973
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 2: listen if you could do way worse. You clearly like him.

974
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 2: Figure it out as you go. But I don't think

975
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 2: you can ever give him one of those big contracts.

976
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 2: He's just not It's hard to play in the league

977
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 2: at five ten a buck eighty. You know, when you

978
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 2: don't have a great army, you're not that mobile. He's

979
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 2: actually really impressive what he's even able to do. I mean,

980
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 2: he was a huge recruit, goes to Alabama, played well.

981
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 2: He's a pretty remarkable story when you just look at

982
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 2: how good he is with his size. I don't think

983
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 2: we'll ever see that again, do you a guy that's

984
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 2: small get drafted that high and just be a starter

985
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 2: in the league for as long as he's gonna be.

986
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 2: It's it's kind of an outlier situation, but I think financially,

987
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 2: I have a hard time ever seeing him getting a

988
00:48:58,680 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 2: massive contract.

989
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 1: Feel very much a mid thirties a Baker a Darnold contract.

990
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: Darnold at this point is underpaid, regardless of what you

991
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 1: think of him. No, I'm with you. I think you

992
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 1: know again, I think the Bears have a real shot

993
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: against the Rams, I really do. I kind of agree

994
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: with you that I think Philadelphia is a little bit

995
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 1: or Philadelphia took a chunk out of the Niners. I

996
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: just don't know if the Niners. You fly all the

997
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 1: way back home, then you fly up to Seattle, and

998
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 1: Seattle sitting there now. The good news is the Niners,

999
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:35,839
Speaker 1: you know, fresh off a win, will probably be very

1000
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: good in the first couple of drives of the game,

1001
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 1: Seattle could come out and be very rusty. I didn't

1002
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: like the fact that Seattle had a bye week. They're

1003
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: too young. They want to play. Those bye weeks are

1004
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: I mean, we saw this in college football. Bye weeks

1005
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 1: hurt teams outside of Indiana. Well, that's because it's young athletes.

1006
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 1: Young athletes want to play. If you have an old team,

1007
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: you know, like Stan Francisco this week, they'd be great

1008
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: getting time off. But Philadelphia was you know, you give

1009
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: somebody like that time off. I don't think Denver or

1010
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: Seattle will be better necessarily. I think it makes them

1011
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 1: more vulnerable. But I think over the course of a game,

1012
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 1: I think the Niners, I think they'll just you know,

1013
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: they're gonna take too many shots. That feels like a

1014
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 1: game that San Francisco could lead like thirteen ten at

1015
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 1: half and then Seattle just relentless athletes pressure Perdy gets

1016
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:23,399
Speaker 1: hit as a beat. All of a sudden, you look

1017
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: up and it's like, okay, now it's thirty twenty and

1018
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 1: San Francisco's out of gas with about eight minutes to go.

1019
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 2: Well, typically in the NFL, when a team, I think

1020
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 2: you know from a gambling standpoint. When a team gets

1021
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 2: blown out late in the season by a team and

1022
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 2: plays them again, the score is much closer, right, and

1023
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 2: these guys know each other really well. I do think

1024
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,959
Speaker 2: Kittle's a massive blow in their run game situation that's

1025
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 2: really really hard to overcome. But yeah, I mean, the

1026
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 2: Niners at this point have nothing to lose. So anytime

1027
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 2: you play a team, to ask Philadelphia, a team with

1028
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 2: not much to lose at all, all the pressures on you.

1029
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 2: Of the pie chart, one hundred percent of the pressure

1030
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 2: day was on Philadelphia. And as the game got weird, ye,

1031
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 2: all the forty nine ers want to do is just

1032
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 2: keep it weird, keep it close. Same thing with Seattle.

1033
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 2: If you're down thirteen to ten at halftime, that is

1034
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 2: a gigantic win. I mean, you know it's it's.

1035
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: And you could see John and you could see Seattle's

1036
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: game plan coming in as guys, we have the better roster,

1037
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 1: we're at home. Yeah, it's gonna be very conservative game plan.

1038
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: We're gonna win this game. You could see Mike McDonald saying, guys,

1039
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,399
Speaker 1: we're gonna win this game in the third quarter. Let's

1040
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: not make any mistakes. So San Francisco probably comes in

1041
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 1: pretty aggressive. Seattle comes in super conservative. So if I

1042
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 1: had to bet anything, I would bet the Niners in

1043
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: the first half. But I do think there's just a

1044
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 1: wave of Seattle athleticism and youth and health, and their

1045
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: roster is completely healthy. I think I think at some

1046
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 1: point rosters when you have a good head coach Mike

1047
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: McDonald's several notches above Nick Cerianni, they have good coordinators

1048
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: and good culture, I think Seattle wears them out.

1049
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 2: Not shocking really thinking about it. The NFC West, who

1050
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 2: the one seed, the five seed, and the six seed,

1051
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 2: are three of the four teams left, and there's a

1052
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:08,760
Speaker 2: pretty good chance, you know, if somehow the Bears football

1053
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 2: angel doesn't show up when they play the Rams, that

1054
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 2: it's going to be an NFC West NFC championship game,

1055
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 2: which we've seen so many times over the last ten

1056
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 2: to fifteen years, right going back to Harbaugh and Pete

1057
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 2: Carroll through McVeigh and Shanahan. So I just think that

1058
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 2: the travel for these teams, right, I mean, look at

1059
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers going to Seattle's what a couple

1060
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 2: hour flight. I mean the Rams, that's all the one

1061
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 2: thing I will give the Rams a little bit of

1062
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 2: that is a you play this eight nine team, I

1063
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,720
Speaker 2: don't know. I've never made the flight from Lax to Charlotte,

1064
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 2: but it's minimum five hours. Like it it's a long trek, right,

1065
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 2: and George Kittle talked about this last week when they lost.

1066
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 2: When you play these playoff games against these the forty

1067
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:50,839
Speaker 2: nine ers had a four and a half five hour

1068
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 2: flight to go to Philadelphi. These are long trips, you know.

1069
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,280
Speaker 2: It's why it's such a big advantage for Seattle and Denver.

1070
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 2: You just kind of sit there and wait so and

1071
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 2: you let the other team get the living you know

1072
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 2: what they beat out of them, Like even the Rams,

1073
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 2: it's like, well they played, they were ten and a

1074
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 2: half point favorite. Yeah, they had to really strain to

1075
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 2: win that game. So it's just now sometimes use that

1076
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 2: as momentum. We've seen the ELI teams make crazy runs

1077
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 2: right as wild cards, and sometimes you run out of gas.

1078
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 2: So it's no different with the Bears. Like that's they've

1079
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 2: had a pretty crazy emotional month plus wins an law,

1080
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 2: I mean that Niner loss. Then you saw them come

1081
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 2: out really flat against the Lions, but then they came

1082
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 2: storming back, and then last night, I just don't know

1083
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,439
Speaker 2: how much emotionally they can ride the world. I've never

1084
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 2: because the Commanders didn't have as much offensive talent as

1085
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 2: the Bears do. I feel like talents exceptional, Yeah, just

1086
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 2: so it's they're much more serious. But for them to

1087
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 2: make this one with their defenses, because it did feel

1088
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 2: when they were down twenty one to three, you're like,

1089
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 2: they've had a remarkable season, they have the star coach,

1090
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 2: but you're gonna get destroyed.

1091
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: Even Ben Johnson, it was Ben Johnson's coach. He was like,

1092
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: I don't want to give the ball back to Green Bay.

1093
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 1: I'm going to go for it our thirty two yard line.

1094
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just basically he was telling you, I'm

1095
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: not giving their defense an opportunity to have a bigger

1096
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: like he didn't trust his defense. Dennis Allen does deserve credit.

1097
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 1: I thought the second half it was much more, much

1098
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 1: more aggressive game plan. All Right, a couple of college thoughts.

1099
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:25,800
Speaker 1: So a week from now, on Monday. A week from Monday,

1100
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 1: Indiana is going to be potentially the third straight Big

1101
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 1: Ten team to win the national championship. Third straight year

1102
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 1: an SEC team doesn't even make it and it's really interesting.

1103
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: I went and looked today. Six of the seven top

1104
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: quarterbacks next season Dante more Mayava Underwood saying Sellers sores

1105
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 1: be the big twelve kid that goes from Cincinnati to

1106
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: Texas Tech. Six of the top seven outside of Arch

1107
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: Manning are non SEC quarterbacks. Indiana, Ohio State, Oregon, Mission

1108
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: Michigan with Winningham's going to be a very good football

1109
00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: team immediately. They have a ton of talent. Say what

1110
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 1: you want. They stocked the cupboard. So Indiana, Ohio State, Oregon,

1111
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: Michigan should be top ten teams next year. USC Washington

1112
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,280
Speaker 1: are as talented as they have been in the last

1113
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 1: five or six years. That Washington had a great recruiting class.

1114
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 1: They've been good in the portal. Se just had the

1115
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: number one recruiting class. So I think USC, Washington Penn

1116
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 1: State are somewhere between tenth and fifteenth or sixteenth is

1117
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 1: I was told this weekend by an agent that he said,

1118
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: listen SEC coaches privately, they know it's over, like they

1119
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:41,359
Speaker 1: just know. You see, Alabama lost two stars. Now they

1120
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,720
Speaker 1: went to the SEC. They went to Texas Oil money.

1121
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,959
Speaker 1: But it was funny when I watched Ole Miss because

1122
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,399
Speaker 1: I watched Georgia this year not only lose to Ole

1123
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 1: Miss lose Tobama once, but they could have lost to

1124
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 1: Tennessee Florida in Auburn, like they just weren't the same team.

1125
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 1: Is that it's in It's interesting to watch Indiana now,

1126
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 1: and I think we have to be honest about it

1127
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:02,879
Speaker 1: because Mark Cuban just wrote a twelve or fifteen million

1128
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 1: lar check. Indiana now is a national power. Ohio State's

1129
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: now in national power. Oregon is not playing Indiana. If

1130
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 1: Oregon was playing anybody else, not in Nam. Indiana, they're

1131
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 1: a national power. Michigan with Whittingham will be a really,

1132
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 1: really really good team, like John I think when I

1133
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: look at it now and this is why the world changes.

1134
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 1: I was watching the story on Boeing today and everybody's

1135
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 1: like Boeing now in the last six months. Boeing was

1136
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 1: a wreck. Nine months ago, it was it was just

1137
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 1: a mess. It was completely dysfunctional. Boeing just turned it around.

1138
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 1: You can do this in business and you can now

1139
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 1: do it in the transfer portal. I think everybody has

1140
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 1: to just realize right now, Indiana, between their coach and

1141
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 1: their nil, it's a better football program than anybody in

1142
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 1: the SEC. They have a better coach, and they have

1143
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: easier access to massive eight figure capital annually. That is

1144
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 1: hard to wrap your brain around. But I'm sitting there

1145
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 1: watching Indiana and I'm like, just if you put Georgia's

1146
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 1: uniform in Indiana, you'd be like this, this is unbelievable.

1147
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: This is what they are now. Indiana is with signetti

1148
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 1: and there and there and I last year they got in,

1149
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 1: they didn't have big money, they had James Madison players

1150
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 1: and they made the playoff. So I guess my takeaway

1151
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 1: on all of this is Indiana is now just give

1152
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 1: the uniforms to Ohio State. This is what they're gonna

1153
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 1: look like every year. Right.

1154
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 2: Someone forwarded me a tweet from Connor Stallion's Harboz's old

1155
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 2: guy basically saying that you know, the local car dealership

1156
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 2: can no longer just put twenty thousand dollars in a

1157
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 2: bag and hand into a kid, right, because the minimum

1158
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 2: I mean you're talking you see some of the prices

1159
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 2: on these players. I didn't know this until the other night.

1160
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 2: Indiana has more alumni or you know, it's disputed, but

1161
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 2: definitely top two or three than any school in the

1162
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 2: country and all the other schools beside Arizona State are

1163
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 2: all big ten. So if you just do the math,

1164
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 2: if I have the most kids graduating for decades, I'm

1165
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 2: just going to have a higher percentage of people that

1166
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 2: are gonna do well and at these schools, even if

1167
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 2: you don't like sports that much. I had friends from

1168
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 2: high school that went to Oregon that went to Arizona,

1169
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 2: and I wouldn't call them like sports diehards. They're very

1170
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 2: passionate about their school. And when Arizona or Oregon, when

1171
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,479
Speaker 2: these schools make runs in basketball or football, they are

1172
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 2: bound by that school. And like, that's a huge advantage

1173
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,439
Speaker 2: for Ohio State. For Michigan the size of their alumni base,

1174
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 2: and let's face it, like how many billionaires are SEC

1175
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:35,919
Speaker 2: graduates now, that could change. You know, their application base

1176
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 2: has dramatically grown over the last but those guys are

1177
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 2: thirty twenty eight. It's gonna take some time.

1178
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 1: Shoes Number one booster is a personal injury attorney. Well,

1179
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 1: you can't compete with Larry Ellison at Michigan and Mark Cuban,

1180
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 1: the biggest Georgia booster rest in piece. He was a

1181
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 1: beloved guy. He was a bourbon distributor. Again, awesome career.

1182
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 1: But you're talking about now big ten schools. This is

1183
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 1: something I talked about three years ago. Car dealer. A

1184
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 1: big car dealer is a number one or number two

1185
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 1: guy in the SEC that is not that guy's number eight,

1186
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 1: number ten in these Michigan and Notre Dame have endowments

1187
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: that are top ten in the country. There's just billionaires

1188
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 1: everywhere in USC right now. Forget the fact they get

1189
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: the ninety million dollar check. They're building a three hundred

1190
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 1: million dollar facility. They're buying the best class in the country.

1191
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 1: They have more money than they know.

1192
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 2: What to do with. Well, why do you think Cal

1193
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 2: at Stanford hired Andrew Luck and Ron Rivera? I think

1194
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 2: Cal has more billionaires than any other school in America

1195
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 2: because if they hired John Middlecoff to be the GM

1196
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 2: of Cal football, that guy I'm not going to pick

1197
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 2: up my phone call if Ron Rivera calls, not only

1198
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 2: we pick it up, Hey, come down to Google and

1199
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 2: have lunch with me. Right, Andrew Luck's getting all these

1200
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 2: guys to pick up So these schools. I'm just talking

1201
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 2: Cal in Stanford. So think of the advantage they have

1202
00:59:56,640 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 2: over every SEC. Program. So if they can get money in,

1203
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 2: they immediately can compete with those schools that like. That's

1204
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 2: Texas's big advantage. I think I saw Stuart Mandel or

1205
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 2: someone said that by all signs point to them having

1206
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,959
Speaker 2: a forty plus million dollar roster. They have unlimited money.

1207
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 2: Same thing with Texas Tech. The Texas Tech quarterback that

1208
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 2: they just signed, they had to pay Cincinnati a million

1209
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 2: dollar buyout to get his services. He had a buyout

1210
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 2: plus in this country, so they gave him five million

1211
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 2: dollars and they gave Cincinnati or the nil or however

1212
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 2: it worked out a million dollars. Well, they can do

1213
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 2: it because they got the billionaire guy who is all in.

1214
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 2: And honestly, I've seen some of their I saw this

1215
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 2: interview on Instagram with this guy going around at a

1216
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 2: Texas Tech away game, and a lot of their boosters

1217
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 2: are oil guys, are very successful individuals.

1218
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 1: Texas Tech, Texas, Texas A, and M. It's Texas. But

1219
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 1: Texas is a massive economy, so at big time if

1220
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 1: you I mean, Texas Tech has far greater money than

1221
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 1: anybody in the SEC not called Texas and Texas A

1222
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 1: and M Alabama just lost just I think it was

1223
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 1: a star running back. They lost. Over the course of

1224
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 1: the weekend. They thought they had him. He committed, Texas

1225
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 1: came in Boom will take him. So, I mean, what

1226
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 1: would the SEC be now? Without Texas and Texas A and

1227
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 1: m they'd be.

1228
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 2: The Big twelve.

1229
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 1: They can't compete.

1230
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, when Greg Byrne put out the tweet kind of

1231
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,479
Speaker 2: begging for money a year ago, you knew, like, WHOA,

1232
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 2: that's crazy, pretty crazy. I mean, that's can you imagine

1233
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 2: that all of these other programs doing it. But I

1234
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 2: don't even blame it. He probably feels desperate. What else

1235
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 2: is he gonna do? Put a Venmo account? Link it

1236
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 2: to hell.

1237
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 1: Two other schools that are loaded, Notre Dame and Miami

1238
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 1: from the ACC. So they they are. So it's not

1239
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 1: just you know, three or four Big ten teams. It's

1240
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 1: Texas Tech, it's Miami, it's Notre Dame. So, I mean,

1241
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 1: there's so many great high school programs and coaches and

1242
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 1: players in the big in the SEC footprint. They're always

1243
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 1: going to have their players. But I was told this

1244
01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 1: weekend by somebody, this is this is this isbody that

1245
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 1: is in He's like an agent for I mean, he

1246
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 1: had a big weekend this weekend with a couple of players.

1247
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 1: I can't tell you who they are, but there's a

1248
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 1: wide receiver that plays in the ACC that's going to

1249
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 1: get paid by a Big ten team and it's a

1250
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 1: lot of money. And I can't disclose the player or

1251
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 1: the money, but he's in this world. And it's like,

1252
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 1: there's so much money in the Big ten right now.

1253
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:26,919
Speaker 1: There is so much money, all right, John Middlecoff, former

1254
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,920
Speaker 1: NFL scout three and Out go crush that. Let's go

1255
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 1: watch the Patriots. Chargers.

1256
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 2: We got we got Netflix starting tomorrow, Colin so with

1257
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 2: the the three and Out podcast will be on Netflix

1258
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 2: starting tomorrow. So we're rocking and rolling. A lot of

1259
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 2: people have asked, I will This doesn't change at all

1260
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 2: with me and you and doesn't change anything from the audio.

1261
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 2: But Netflix, we're rocking and rolling tomorrow. So uh, come

1262
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 2: a long way here, let's keep it wrong.

1263
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 1: I'll be watching all right, the hard rock pick John.

1264
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna take the Steelers at home Mike

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Speaker 1: Tomlin on Monday Night minus three. What I worry about

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Speaker 1: Houston as they settled for a lot of field goals

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Speaker 1: in the red zone, and you know, I love C. J. Stroud,

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Speaker 1: but between Gainwell Friarmouth, Jalen Warrens had a really interesting year.

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Speaker 1: DK metcalf is back. It's Aaron Rodgers at home. He's

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Speaker 1: not making a lot of mistakes. Tomlin is a dog.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna take the Steelers plus three. I didn't.

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Speaker 1: I've been saying all year how dangerous Houston is, but

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Speaker 1: I can't. I can't unsee that second half of the

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Speaker 1: Steelers over the Ravens. I think I like Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this was a Disney movie. I would take Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 2: but it's not. I like the Houston Texas. I like

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Speaker 2: him so Rogers had a hell of a career. I

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Speaker 2: think it comes to a screeching hault on Monday Night.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, that Texans pass.

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Speaker 2: Rush gonna be a problem.

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Speaker 1: Great stuff.

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Speaker 2: The volume