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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, the podcast part of the Volume

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Speaker 1: Podcast Network. I am Chad Moment of the Action Network today.

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Speaker 1: I'm joined as always by Michael Is, my companion, Mike

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Speaker 1: cam Padre my BFF, professional better Simon Hunter, ed osim

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Speaker 1: in Chad.

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Speaker 2: How are we doing?

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Speaker 3: Listen?

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Speaker 1: Before we came on the air, you said something that

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Speaker 1: was concerning to me, also interesting, kind of funny imagining it.

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Speaker 1: But you are going on vacation a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: You're from England, You're going to visit your family in

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Speaker 1: northern England.

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Speaker 3: How are you preparing to go visit your family?

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Speaker 2: We're putting this on air.

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Speaker 4: I'm preparing in many ways, but the main way is

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Speaker 4: I've been drinking before going and I'm not, you know,

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Speaker 4: chat out the biggest drinker. Obviously, there's other things I

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Speaker 4: like more than drinking. And for this trip though, I

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Speaker 4: know I'm going to be drinking, so I have been

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Speaker 4: preparing my body with you know, beers and a little

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Speaker 4: bit of whiskey because where I'm going is basically that's

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Speaker 4: what I'm gonna be drinking. So yeah, I am getting

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Speaker 4: ready to head up to Edinburgh, and basically Edinburgh is

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Speaker 4: one hundred bars on one street and I'm going to

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Speaker 4: be seen around half of those, god willing, and I

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Speaker 4: don't know three day times. So I'm looking forward to

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Speaker 4: visiting Edinburgh, the history of Edinburgh, and drinking my way

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Speaker 4: down one street again. One hundred bars on one street

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Speaker 4: in Edinburgh. It doesn't even sound real.

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Speaker 1: And how did you feel for your preparations when you

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Speaker 1: woke up this morning?

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Speaker 4: I did the I did a puke and rally puked

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Speaker 4: and then had a beer with eggs. So I'm telling you, Chad,

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Speaker 4: I am I'm getting right back into it. Kegs and eggs.

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Speaker 4: It's the simple man's version. Just a couple of beers

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Speaker 4: and eggs.

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Speaker 1: How much did you drink yesterday? And when did you

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Speaker 1: stop to the point that you were puking this morning?

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Speaker 2: Not a lot?

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Speaker 4: Like it, like ten beers over the course of eight hours,

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Speaker 4: So it's not crazy.

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Speaker 2: That's not crazy. Like Chad, I'm a big guy.

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Speaker 4: Like in my prime, like the college late high school days,

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Speaker 4: I would split a thirty pack with a buddy and

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Speaker 4: we would both kill it in two to three hours.

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Speaker 4: And like again, that's fifteen beers apiece in two to

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Speaker 4: three hours, So ten beers in ten hours.

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Speaker 2: I feel like that's not I don't have a problem yet,

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Speaker 2: but I told you it's.

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Speaker 4: Different like in England. Even my cousins who don't really

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Speaker 4: drink much. My one cousin, she's probably you know, she's.

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Speaker 2: Twenty eight now.

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Speaker 4: By the time, she was probably early twenties. We buy

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Speaker 4: a giant pint of beer and I'm chatting with her,

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Speaker 4: and she finishes the entire beer. When I have I

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Speaker 4: have just taken two SIPs. Within like two minutes, I'm

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Speaker 4: already buying her another beer. It's just a different culture

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Speaker 4: over there where they they put it back like water.

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Speaker 4: And I don't represent Americans well at all. I am

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Speaker 4: soft when it comes to drinking. I can last, but

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Speaker 4: I cannot throw them back like that. So I'm just

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like I like that you're in training

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Speaker 1: and you take this seriously and you're a professional in

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Speaker 1: everything you do. It's kind of like when we had

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Speaker 1: barely get through yours.

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Speaker 4: It's just how I know you don't have many brothers,

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Speaker 4: and no point that we mentioned this was a race.

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Speaker 4: These cheese steaks and Chad goes, I finished mine before you.

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Speaker 2: I go, what's your point? Who cares?

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Speaker 1: You?

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Speaker 2: Go?

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Speaker 4: Well, I ate it faster than you did. I go,

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Speaker 4: Is it a competition? It's just you never mentioned it

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Speaker 4: was a race. But it finishes. It goes, Look I'm done,

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Speaker 4: You're not. It's like, what are wrong with this guy?

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Speaker 1: Everything is a competition, Simon, It's always a competition. We

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Speaker 1: got a fun show today because this Sunday is Father's

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Speaker 1: Day and we're going to do something brand new here

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Speaker 1: on the show.

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Speaker 3: We're doing our salute to.

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Speaker 1: Fathers who, by the way, obviously influenced us in tremendous

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Speaker 1: ways that led to how we do this show, why

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Speaker 1: we do this show, what we're interested in. You're going

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Speaker 1: to tell some stories. Matt Mitchell is going to tell

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Speaker 1: some stories. Part of me feels like this was just

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Speaker 1: an excuse by Matt Mitchell to get Matt Mitchell on

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Speaker 1: to the show.

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Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, these are.

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Speaker 1: The men who molded us into the thriving titans of

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Speaker 1: industry we've all become. I feel like, Matt Mitchell, I

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Speaker 1: want you to kick it off because more than anyone,

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Speaker 1: I feel like you've been thinking about.

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Speaker 2: This, thanks Chren.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I for sure I've been thinking about Father's Day

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Speaker 5: a lot, because this will be the first Father's Day

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Speaker 5: since I was since it applied to me personally, that

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Speaker 5: I'll be able to enjoy it, or I can be

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Speaker 5: the centerpiece of the day and not my own father

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Speaker 5: or my father in law or a sick child of

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Speaker 5: some kind. It's really going to be all about me

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Speaker 5: on Father's Day, and I'll be doing the you know,

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Speaker 5: the thing that I want to do, almost as much

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Speaker 5: as I actually want to do. Obviously number one would

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Speaker 5: be something that involves no children in sight. But short

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Speaker 5: of that, it'll be making my children do stuff that

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Speaker 5: only I want to do, the ultimate kind of Father's

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Speaker 5: Day salute.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure what that entails like.

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Speaker 1: You can't get them into the casino in in Milwaukee.

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Speaker 1: You can't get them on the apps to start making

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Speaker 1: bets for you. You can't take them to the bar where

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Speaker 3: I'm not even sure what that looks like.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, I'm saying this from the perspective

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Speaker 1: And another son who is living in Philadelpha, his best

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Speaker 1: point my fathering duties. I got three months until my

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Speaker 1: kids out of the house. I'm basically done. Father's Day

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Speaker 1: is a symbol for me.

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Speaker 5: Now, Yeah, your fatherhood approach is the same as your

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Speaker 5: managerial approach. You're just you're barely there, but you maintained

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Speaker 5: some of the title. So no, I can appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: And I like to think of it as I like

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Speaker 1: to think of it as hiring really great people, siring

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Speaker 1: of where I think we should collectively go as a unit,

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Speaker 3: Me with the hard problems.

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Speaker 1: Is Barack Obama once said, you know, years ago, ansored

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Speaker 1: the Sloan Sports Analytics conference Action Network did. It was

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Speaker 1: our first full year as a company. It was March

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Speaker 1: the conference. It happened to be when Barack Obama was

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Speaker 1: speaking speaking of fathers, this is a great father story.

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Speaker 1: I met Barack Obama. There's like a procession line to

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Speaker 1: meet him, right, there's probably about fifty of us who

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Speaker 1: I thought so much about what I was going to

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Speaker 1: and Peter Ernan, who knows Barack Obama, I was thinking

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Speaker 1: I wanted to go a different route. I was going

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Speaker 3: So that's the story I decided to go with.

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Speaker 1: And so I've got thirty seconds to convey this to

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Speaker 1: that's what he's saying.

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Speaker 3: And he looks at me. He goes, he's wrong. Let's

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Speaker 3: take a.

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Speaker 1: Picture, grabs me by the shoulder, turns me around, big smile.

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Speaker 1: It was the smoothest fucking move you've ever seen in

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Speaker 3: It was glorious. And I went back home and I

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Speaker 5: I would send you straight to Guantanamo Bay for wasting

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Speaker 5: my time with that story if I was the president

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Speaker 5: of the United States. So but hey, somebody arrests this

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Speaker 1: Guantanamo Anyways, anyways, Matt, you had a story to tell.

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Speaker 5: Well three things. One, it's a shame Brian Wilson died

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Speaker 5: before you could hear somebody rhyme, hires and sires, so

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Speaker 5: congratulations on that.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. Two, I do what are the most illiterate Yeah, podcast,

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Speaker 3: gambling podcast, hiring the.

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Speaker 5: Best in siring the best is going to absolutely haunt me,

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Speaker 5: so thank you for that. Two, I do want to

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Speaker 5: point out on behalf of the great state of Wisconsin.

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Speaker 5: You absolutely can bring children into any bar if they're

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Speaker 5: It's a great state. And finally, I do want to

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Speaker 5: provide a very very belated Happy Father's Day to a

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Speaker 5: great moment in sports history. Sixty one fathers days ago,

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Speaker 5: future Hall of Famer and US Senator Jim Bunning of

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Speaker 5: the Philadelphia Phillies goes into a sweltering Shay Stadium in

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Speaker 5: seven children, and he throws the first regular season perfect

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Speaker 5: to you, Jim Budding. I also want to point out,

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Speaker 5: in true Father's Day style, his Father's Day, he pitches

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Speaker 5: a perfect game. It was the first game of a doubleheader.

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Speaker 5: Making these boys work a double on their own day unbelievable.

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Speaker 5: But here's the U Philadelphia, Philly's legend.

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Speaker 1: Jim Budding, Well done. Did you have anything else you

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Speaker 1: want to say? You want Simon to go to his story?

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Speaker 5: You know what, I'll tell one real quick to start

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Speaker 5: things off, because I want to point out that my dad,

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Speaker 5: who's lovely and still with us and who I love dearly,

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Speaker 5: I got my dad into sports, not the other way around.

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Speaker 5: My dad hated sports, had no He's one of those

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Speaker 1: Simon, Please share with us the story about your loving father,

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Speaker 3: Just the lovely, lovely man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, great man. Yeah, he's a great man and very lucky.

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Speaker 4: My dad when he coached me, he would yell at

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Speaker 2: What you say you called him by his first name.

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Speaker 4: Like they gave my dad a look like are you

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Speaker 2: He didn't care. I can call him Tom Wow. So

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Speaker 2: People. There are fans of the show. They've met my dad.

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Speaker 1: You could put the Milmans inside Simon's family like little

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we are Putians compared to that's what.

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Speaker 4: I mean you met my brother.

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Speaker 2: My brother's probably six four. Definitely a very tall family.

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Speaker 5: Your dad has an elite nineties dad five, which I

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Speaker 4: And he's very good. I would say, he's very like

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Speaker 4: My mom, God bless her, is the most curly girl ever,

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Speaker 4: So my dad basically doesn't drink, never smoke, like, doesn't

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Speaker 4: And you know, it's it's one of those things you

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Speaker 2: People tell me all the time, it's like.

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Speaker 2: I played all the sports. I loved sports growing up,

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Speaker 4: And then, unfortunately, I think only one of us played

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Speaker 2: For my dad was sports.

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Speaker 1: Matt, It's interesting to me that your dad was not

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Speaker 3: The guy did it. The guy did it. He did it.

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Speaker 1: When like every summer job, when you work in media,

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Speaker 1: driving around every weekend at different tournaments, different events, all

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00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 1: these things, and we're both starting to complain about it

438
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 1: a little bit because it's not like the mainstream sports thing.

439
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:52,879
Speaker 1: And then my wife looks at me one day and

440
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,879
Speaker 1: one day and goes, oh my god, this is his

441
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 1: soccer like, we have to do it even though there's

442
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:04,439
Speaker 1: nothinganctioned and it's not official, because it's no different than

443
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: if we spent every weekend going to fucking Freehold, New

444
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 1: Jersey for lacrosse tournaments.

445
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 2: That's right, oh.

446
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 5: Father, that your stuff. Also, Canton's like four hundred miles

447
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 5: away from your house. And he was just like regulators,

448
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,360
Speaker 5: mound up. I'm in, Yeah, sounds good like good for him.

449
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 3: We went. We totally just went. Didn't even question it.

450
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 1: Uh. I think I did the story about Franco Harris,

451
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 1: Good days, Good Days, good, dads.

452
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 4: I'll do one game story because this is like, to me,

453
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,200
Speaker 4: the biggest one that changed my life in many ways.

454
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,360
Speaker 4: Where it's my earliest memory of sports betting. So it's

455
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,640
Speaker 4: Super Bowl and two.

456
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,880
Speaker 2: Thousand, I believe. So it's the Titans Rams.

457
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 4: And again I knew nothing about sports betting, never never

458
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:51,120
Speaker 4: never seen it before.

459
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 2: I never heard about it.

460
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 4: And my dad said to be my brother, do you

461
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 4: guys want to pick a side for this game? And

462
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,439
Speaker 4: there's a spread, so everyone knew the Rams were the

463
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 4: better team. And I was a big, big Steve McNair fan.

464
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 4: So my brother was like, yeah, I like the Rams.

465
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 4: And I said, well, I'll take Steve McNair like I

466
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,159
Speaker 4: love the Titans. And my dad said, well, there's a spread,

467
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,680
Speaker 4: so you get seven and a half points to start

468
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 4: the game. And again as a little kid, I could

469
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 4: not wrap my head around it where it's like so

470
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 4: I'm already up a touchdown and a half.

471
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:21,919
Speaker 2: I don't. I couldn't get it.

472
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 4: So again, if anyone remembers that game, it's I think

473
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,400
Speaker 4: twenty three seventeen. Again, I have the Titans. They get

474
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 4: tackled at the one by the Rams. My brother starts

475
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 4: going absolutely crazy, and my dad basically pulled the not

476
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,360
Speaker 4: so fast league Corso said, Simon here won the bet.

477
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 4: The spread was seven and a half and gave me

478
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,880
Speaker 4: the one dollar and the rest is history.

479
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:43,120
Speaker 2: Chat.

480
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 4: I literally got the itch from that day forward. And

481
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 4: even I remember being, you know, in middle school and

482
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 4: the Lakers and the Sixers in the finals. I made

483
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 4: a bet with a buddy who's a diehard this biggest

484
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 4: scumback guy was.

485
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,120
Speaker 2: He was diehard Sixers fan. Six Ers win Game one.

486
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 4: I said, all right, if I'm right the Lakers win

487
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 4: this series, you buy me cookies every day for the

488
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 4: rest of the week. Again living the dream at that age.

489
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 4: And yeah, just a little things like that. That's how

490
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 4: I got a sports better And again, like we're talking

491
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 4: about Chad, very supportive parents, Like I told my parents.

492
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 2: I was gonna work in TV. They support it.

493
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 4: I told them that I was gonna be a sports

494
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 4: better runner and working you know, a weird life.

495
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 2: Supportive. It's been very, very.

496
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,400
Speaker 4: Lucky, and obviously you know that's that's what I kind

497
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:28,919
Speaker 4: of I feel like Chad's in the same spot here

498
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 4: where it's like, you know, our parents who love us

499
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 4: and support us. It is a really big blessing in life,

500
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Speaker 4: and I actually, un fortunately I've been in a life

501
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 4: to have that.

502
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Speaker 1: Matt Mitchell told his dad, I'm going to grow a

503
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: mustache when Kren goes away for ten days, I'm going

504
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,919
Speaker 1: to grow a mustache. And he goes son, I'm not

505
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: really thinking that's a great idea, but it's your life.

506
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 1: I want you to make your choices. It's your body.

507
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 1: You do what you think is best.

508
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 5: Oh my god, that just reminded me of a story

509
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 5: he'd actually love. Coming back from the University of Missouri,

510
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 5: home the alma mater of Mike Jones who made that

511
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 5: year two thousand Super Bowl tackle to clinch the Tramants

512
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 5: Go Mike Jones coming back from college. My dad had

513
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,360
Speaker 5: booked me a flight to come back from Columbia to Rochester,

514
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 5: A terrible kind of situation to try to figure out.

515
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 5: So I'd fly, say Lewis to you know, have a

516
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 5: layover or whatever. But this one he's like, Hey, remember

517
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 5: this flight, you actually have to go to baggage. I

518
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 5: booked it on two airlines, that's two one way tickets,

519
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 5: so you have to go get your bag, bring it over,

520
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 5: and then check back into this other flight. Okay, this

521
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 5: is an unusual situation, like, yeah, it sounds good. I

522
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 5: obviously forget all about that and leave my luggage in

523
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 5: a you know, at wherever, like bwi whatever fucking layover

524
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 5: I had and get home and there's no bag. I

525
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 5: had also grown, because I was like I was nineteen

526
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 5: or whatever. I grew like a little go tea soul

527
00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 5: patch situation and looked embarrassingly bad, which made him real mad.

528
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 5: But I was. I thought that was It was a

529
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,199
Speaker 5: hoot that he that he hated it. And when I

530
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 5: told him I missed that back, he was like, I'm

531
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 5: gonna have to call the air I gotta get this

532
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 5: bag on its own flight. He was like, god damn it.

533
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 5: And I remember being like mm hmm, I'll be right

534
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 5: back and going into the bathroom and shaving it off,

535
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 5: and his anger going down by like ninety percent.

536
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 2: Because he knew I could.

537
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,719
Speaker 5: I was trying to meet him halfway, and that was uh.

538
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 5: I remember that that him his face being like all right,

539
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 5: all right, at least I don't have to help out

540
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 5: a guy who looks like a complete asshole. So that

541
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 5: was that was a lot of fun.

542
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 3: I do feel like.

543
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 1: The signs of a good dad are they are angriest

544
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: about the stupidest stuff and least angry about the big stuff.

545
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 1: You know, Like when I get into college, my senior year,

546
00:27:55,880 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 1: me and my closest friend went to we were at

547
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 1: like another buddy's house, and this was the house where

548
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 1: this was the drinking guy's house.

549
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 3: Right, there was a group of us who were.

550
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 1: Like not big drinkers in a group that were big drinkers,

551
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: and like we thought they were cool and they were

552
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: like practiced drinkers, right, And so he broke out the

553
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: Jack Daniels, and me and my buddy each did like

554
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: an unhealthy dangerous amount of shots in a very short

555
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: amount of time, to the point where when we ended

556
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: up at the local Denny's that night where we always

557
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 1: ended up where half of my high school ended up,

558
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 1: I puked all over the table. To bring it back

559
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: around to the beginning, right, they had to drag me out.

560
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: They take me to my house, and as you guys know,

561
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: I have to wear very specific contact lenses that required

562
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: a plunger to be removed because I have a degenerative

563
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: I disease. Okay, so my friends have me sitting upright

564
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,479
Speaker 1: in the bathroom, unlike the toilet that is, you know,

565
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: the seat is down. They're trying to get my content

566
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: out with the plunger, except they keep missing and they're

567
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: pulling my eye likely you can see it, right. So

568
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: then they let go and meet and I fall face forward.

569
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: My head hits the porcelain sink. They can't get the

570
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: contact lenses out, and I've got puke all over my pants.

571
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: And so they get me into my bedroom and they're

572
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: standing around me in a circle, and they're trying to

573
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: get me to get my pants off, and I won't

574
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: do it, and I keep yelling, I'm not taking my

575
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: pants off until you take your pants off. And when

576
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: they're standing around me about seven eight nine dudes with

577
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: their pants off in the circle, Me in the center.

578
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 3: With my pants off.

579
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Speaker 1: That's when my parents get home and my mom looks

580
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: at my dad and she goes, I think this is

581
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: on you. Everybody leaves. My dad gets me in bed.

582
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: I'm puking until about four in the morning. In my

583
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: by the way Simon Philadelphia, seventy six ers garbage can.

584
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: My dad is sitting with me the entire night. I

585
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: finally pass out, except I have the seven am shift

586
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: at Parkway Drugs Pharmacy in Glencoe. The next day, it's

587
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: a Saturday, six about six forty. My dad gets me up,

588
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: drives me because I'm still a little bit out of it,

589
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: drives me to the pharmacy. He's like, if you're gonna

590
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: go out, you're still gonna have to go to work.

591
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: And I did that shift for about five hours until

592
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: the pharmacist stating home and he's like, you're of no

593
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: use to me. But I did also once see my

594
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: dad while he was driving to work, driving me downtown.

595
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: He was going to work, I had to go to

596
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: an appointment, pulled over to the side of the road,

597
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: didn't even step out of the car, pute leaned over,

598
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,479
Speaker 1: he wasn't feeling well, puked, got back in the car,

599
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: drove downtown and went back to work.

600
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 5: Now that's that's real dad behavior, That silver back dad behavior.

601
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's silverback dad strength.

602
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 5: I like the idea of your dad coming home to

603
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 5: that scene and and right away being like, oh, I

604
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 5: better get these pants off. You gotta gotta fit in,

605
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 5: gotta gotta let's uh, let's get these pants off so

606
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 5: we can we can talk some sense into my son Yeah, incredible.

607
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 5: I do want to share that my speaking of just

608
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 5: getting into whatever your kids are getting into, my dad

609
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 5: did eventually become a big sports fan. I was able

610
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 5: to drag him into into becoming a fan. One of

611
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 5: the ways I did that was becoming just a massive

612
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 5: Buffalo Bills fan growing up in Rochester until he eventually

613
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 5: was like, wow, shit, as long as he's super into it,

614
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 5: I'm gonna get super into it. But the NFL had

615
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 5: blackout restrictions from nineteen seventy three to twenty fourteen, where

616
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 5: if a game didn't sell out, it was blacked out

617
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 5: with seventy five miles to the stadium. That really impacted

618
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 5: Buffalo a lot one because it was, you know, an

619
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 5: economically depressed area that wasn't particularly packed with people. They

620
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 5: had the second or third largest stadium in terms of

621
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 5: the number of seats they'd have to sell for a

622
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 5: long time, and then they changed a bunch of the

623
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 5: rules that it was pretty dreadful. So we had three choices.

624
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 5: We could listen to the game and the immortal Van

625
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 5: Miller on the radio, which was great because of the

626
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 5: timeless and evocative nature of audio, which which definitely gave

627
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 5: me a love affair with the radio.

628
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 2: Good afternoon everyone. This is Van Miller, and the road.

629
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Speaker 5: To the Super Bowl goes through Orchard Park, New York.

630
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 5: Or for a little while, there was a loophole where

631
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 5: some bars had satellite feeds, so there was a couple

632
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 5: of bars across town that you could go and get

633
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 5: like essentially a legal stream of the game and watch it.

634
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 5: But it was hard to like it. It's not going

635
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 5: to go and have fifteen La bat blues with his

636
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 5: fucking son and drive them home, So it was hard

637
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 5: to find a reason to take a tween to a

638
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 5: bar and kill all that time. But he would do it.

639
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 5: And then the third option was, which he would do

640
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 5: quite often, if I really wanted to go, he'd drive

641
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 5: me in like an hour plus across the county line.

642
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 5: He'd drive due east into Wayne County until we crossed

643
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 5: over into the area of the Syracuse affiliates, which would

644
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 5: then play it. But there's so much nothing in between

645
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 5: that he would just go up to one of these

646
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 5: shitty roadside like motels, talk to the guy in the

647
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 5: front and basically convince him that him and him and

648
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 5: his team are trying to watch the Bills game. Can

649
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 5: we just get the hotel him for three and a

650
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 5: half hours, and those guys didn't ask a lot of questions.

651
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 5: And we would go in and we'd watch the game

652
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 5: on top of the duvet, and we'd bring in like

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Speaker 5: a picnic. We'd eat the you know, we'd eat the food,

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Speaker 5: watch the game, and then drive home. And during one

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Speaker 5: of those games, I'll never forget it. September twenty first,

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Speaker 5: nineteen ninety seven, the Bills are down twenty six to

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Speaker 5: nothing in the first half to Jim Harbaugh's Indianapolis called

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Speaker 5: and it was notable because it was to me it

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Speaker 5: was the first game that Jim Kelly, who just retired

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Speaker 5: was going to go back to Buffalo as an announcer

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Speaker 5: for NBC and looking at him and being like, this

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Speaker 5: guy is so fucking old and used up. This is

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Speaker 5: like the oldest guy I've ever seen on TV. Jim

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Speaker 5: Caller was thirty seven years old at the time. Like really,

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Speaker 5: I'm like so much older than he was at the time.

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Speaker 5: So there was that the Bills come all the way

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Speaker 5: back and they win this game, the third largest regular

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Speaker 5: season comeback in NFL history, and Ton Smith hursting Fune

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Speaker 5: and Ton Smith racing from the end zone and scores

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Speaker 5: that touching touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Like guy said, e Com never cut the buffalo bills up.

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Speaker 2: He never could count him up.

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Speaker 5: Game absolutely ruled. Then we smoothed out the duvets and

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Speaker 5: swept all the crumbs away and checked out, and he

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Speaker 5: drove all the way home. Just so I can make

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Speaker 5: sure that you know I would catch all these games.

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Speaker 5: It's hard for me to imagine doing that for my

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Speaker 5: own sun or some similar effort, but that's just the

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Speaker 5: stuff you do for your kids. It was incredible.

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Speaker 3: That is great, dadding.

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Speaker 1: It's fun to tell all those dad stories to all

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Speaker 3: As a dad or is looked up to as a dad.

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