Speaker 1: Something that has come up because we were talking about
Speaker 1: the potential O. J. Simpson Jersey in the background of
Speaker 1: the Chubbies. Danielle, do you remember getting me the Chubbies
Speaker 1: prop for my own apartment? What you don't remember doing
Speaker 1: this for me? What's greatest thing? Okay, So when I
Speaker 1: moved into my own apartment, I kind of like I
Speaker 1: had like a because I was downtown, and I had
Speaker 1: like a brick wall, and I was like really into
Speaker 1: trains and like.
Speaker 2: So anywhere there was like trains, and yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: So in Chubbies above it was high up so you
Speaker 1: barely ever see it. It's above the stairway.
Speaker 3: I believe.
Speaker 1: There was this cool railroad crossing sign. It had like
Speaker 1: a railroad crossing and a train and like a couple
Speaker 1: of different railroads.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: It was like an amalgamation of like Americana, and it
Speaker 1: was like this weird like poster thing. And I remember
Speaker 1: looking up at it and being like I love that,
Speaker 1: and you were there and you were like huh, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I really wish I could get that
Speaker 1: in my apartment. And then like months later, I guess
Speaker 1: it was for my birthday or for Christmas.
Speaker 3: You got it for me, and.
Speaker 1: I found out later that you had gone to the
Speaker 1: art department, and the art department had been like how
Speaker 1: do you and you would like had to do favors
Speaker 1: for different people in the art You had to like
Speaker 1: do you do you remember this?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I don't remember what you I just remember you had
Speaker 1: to like I remember different people in the art department
Speaker 1: being like, oh yeah, Danielle, you know, and you like
Speaker 1: finagled your way to get me this thing.
Speaker 5: And I still have that.
Speaker 6: I don't think Danielle learned my name until season six,
Speaker 6: and she's doing all this stuff for you.
Speaker 5: It's amazing.
Speaker 2: You never invited me to do anything with you.
Speaker 5: Will would have been creepy.
Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, I do remember that now.
Speaker 3: I remember.
Speaker 2: I've always been the type of person that when somebody
Speaker 2: says like, man, I like that or I love that,
Speaker 2: I clock it, like, hmm, good to know.
Speaker 5: You're a gift giver. You're a big giv But.
Speaker 1: This was like yeah, and had to get I feel
Speaker 1: like you had to get like a case of diet
Speaker 1: coke or something. It was like it was like some
Speaker 1: kind of special drink that somebody in the set department,
Speaker 1: like the art department needed you got that for them,
Speaker 1: and then they went and got this sign printed for me,
Speaker 1: like another one of these signs.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm still in my parents as.
Speaker 1: Far as I know, because it was in my apartment
Speaker 1: for years and then when I moved, my parents packed
Speaker 1: up that apartment when I was in New York and like,
Speaker 1: so I think it's still at my parents' house.
Speaker 2: Cool if you find it, we have to post a
Speaker 2: picture of it. But also now it's another thing for
Speaker 2: us to start paying attention.
Speaker 5: To in the chuck in the background.
Speaker 2: Love how much our little like props and setuck have
Speaker 2: played into our memories. Like writer, when you saw the
Speaker 2: pinball machine and you were like, man, that just brings
Speaker 2: back so many memories.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm still in the search for the lobster. I
Speaker 5: haven't seen the lobster yet.
Speaker 2: I know it hasn't started yet.
Speaker 5: I don't think it started yet. And I'm still she.
Speaker 2: Only did it in like I thought. Maybe she only
Speaker 2: thinks her.
Speaker 3: Seven Maybe, Yeah, it's really a college years.
Speaker 5: That's when I will have to keep it keeping him
Speaker 5: open though.
Speaker 1: Because when when did ded he move into being second
Speaker 1: ad Because she was she was a phone page until
Speaker 1: about fourth or fifth season.
Speaker 2: It was college years, yeah, because that's what I remember
Speaker 2: her coming to get us from our dressing rooms and stuff,
Speaker 2: right right, we were a little older. So yeah, I
Speaker 2: can't wait to find those two. Welcome to Pod Meets World.
Speaker 2: I'm Daniel Fishl, I'm Rider Strong.
Speaker 5: And I'm Wilford Dell.
Speaker 6: Hello, Connecticut, Pod Meets World Live is coming to you
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Speaker 6: fun with their little jokes and insults, but now it's
Speaker 6: time for every single one of you to put down
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Speaker 5: I kid my fellow nutmakers.
Speaker 6: Down to the Bushnell Theater in Hartford on March seventeenth,
Speaker 6: right near where I was born. It is going to
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Speaker 6: Those are certainly on the agenda. But I also have
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Speaker 2: This week's guest is someone very near and dear to
Speaker 2: my heart. I have more pictures with him than I
Speaker 2: do most of my family. It would have been difficult
Speaker 2: to find a weekend in my mid teenage years that
Speaker 2: I wasn't hanging out with Andrew Keegan, swimming in our pool,
Speaker 2: going to the beach, driving around in a car he
Speaker 2: built with his own hands.
Speaker 3: I or no idea.
Speaker 2: This is so f.
Speaker 1: Always Andrew was like a round, But I didn't realize
Speaker 1: it was because the two of you, we were so
Speaker 1: close good friends.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I thought it was from Angel and VICKI is
Speaker 6: why he was round all the time, because of Danielle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or just casually sharing an ice cream Sunday with
Speaker 2: one spoon while my mom nearby clicked away on a
Speaker 2: camera that we'd eventually have to drop off at a
Speaker 2: thrifties to develop. He may have just been my best
Speaker 2: friend when we were hanging out. But to the rest
Speaker 2: of the world, he was one of the upper tier
Speaker 2: teen beat heart throbs, first spotted with a standout role
Speaker 2: in the nineteen ninety four movie Camp Nowhere. He'd turn
Speaker 2: that into becoming a staple on the decade's best family
Speaker 2: TV shows, starring in the often mentioned Neighbors to Boy
Speaker 2: Meets World, thunder Alley, and appearing on Full House, Step
Speaker 2: by Step, Sabrina, The Teenage Witch, and Yes, an episode
Speaker 2: of Boy Meets World. He would later have memorable turns
Speaker 2: on Seventh Heaven and Moesha, but it was his role
Speaker 2: in Ten Things I Hate About You that cemented him
Speaker 2: into the Dreamboat Hall of Fame. Today we will talk
Speaker 2: about all of these things and more, but it will
Speaker 2: all be grounded in that one time. He was incredibly
Speaker 2: under used as Ronnie Lips Waterman in the third season
Speaker 2: Disney World episode of Boy Meets World, The Happiest Show
Speaker 2: on Earth. So get your camera ready, mom. Welcome to
Speaker 2: Pod Meets World. It's Andrew Keegan.
Speaker 3: How's it going, guys?
Speaker 1: You look the same dude.
Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, I am. I was in hysterics when
Speaker 7: I heard you. Guys had that one video that you
Speaker 7: talked about. I was like, oh my gosh, lost, I
Speaker 7: lost it?
Speaker 2: Was it when Will Will said installed out like Andrew Keagan, Yeah.
Speaker 3: That was it's always it's always Will.
Speaker 5: Wait when I said what if, I said there was.
Speaker 2: We were talking about his car and we had talked
Speaker 2: about about that. Will made a joke. It's so funny.
Speaker 3: I got me.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I got And by the way, I just literally
Speaker 7: just listened to Larissa's because of course I'm.
Speaker 3: A procrastinator, right It was great. Literally just listened. It
Speaker 3: was like nine thirty. I'm like, I should probably listen
Speaker 3: to one of these right now.
Speaker 7: So I listened to it and it was literally great
Speaker 7: because of course it led me like brought up all
Speaker 7: of these and to hear it from her perspective, it's fantastics.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you guys for having me. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for being here. We will start
Speaker 2: our conversation with you the way we like to start
Speaker 2: all of our episodes with child or former child actors.
Speaker 2: Tell us about your your entry into Hollywood and how
Speaker 2: did you find yourself becoming a child actor?
Speaker 3: Wait, are we already doing this? Is it already happening?
Speaker 2: It's going Yeah, Hi, I just.
Speaker 3: I was talking. I was just talking to some friends,
Speaker 3: and I realized.
Speaker 2: Like, oh yeah, that's all it's going to feel like
Speaker 2: for the whole for the whole hour.
Speaker 3: So I started pretty young.
Speaker 7: I think I got my SAG card an eighty five
Speaker 7: or four, So I was you were. I was in
Speaker 7: a commercial and I was actually the replacement kid because
Speaker 7: of course, like I said, I just listened to the
Speaker 7: podcast and of course what we all went through at
Speaker 7: such a young age, and.
Speaker 3: You know, this was something that's barely even a memory,
Speaker 3: but I was.
Speaker 7: I remember a little bit of stress of like, okay,
Speaker 7: I'm the extra kid, and it only brought me in
Speaker 7: for a few minutes, so I really thought it wasn't
Speaker 7: going to be me, and the commercial was supposed to
Speaker 7: be the other kid.
Speaker 3: So I ended up doing that when I was Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think I was about four or five.
Speaker 7: You know, I think at eleven, maybe I did a
Speaker 7: empty nest and I was.
Speaker 3: The yeah empty yeah, who gave a gun to another kid?
Speaker 7: That was in like the early nineties, right, like you
Speaker 7: don't do that anymore.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's so interesting. You mentioned that because we were
Speaker 2: talking recently in a recap about how sitcoms used to
Speaker 2: be for all different ages, and so sitcoms would would
Speaker 2: have like very special episodes and you were apparently the
Speaker 2: star of one where you gave a kid a gun
Speaker 2: to another kid, And now you don't see those because
Speaker 2: TV is so segmented. Like you know, if you want
Speaker 2: to watch a drama, you go watch a drama. If
Speaker 2: you want to watch a comedy, you watch a comedy.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I actually was watching my daughter was introduced to
Speaker 7: a Brandy song The Boy is Mine. She's seven incredible,
Speaker 7: you know, Okay, she likes the song. Not so sure
Speaker 7: about the lyrics for you right now, but enjoy. So
Speaker 7: I ended up showing an episode of Moesha that I
Speaker 7: did with Brandy, and we went a head on in
Speaker 7: that one with you know, a white guy dating a
Speaker 7: you know, black girl, and so like dealing with a
Speaker 7: racist or not a racial, a racial like dynamic and
Speaker 7: it got heated and it was a fight, and it's
Speaker 7: like all this stuff again, you wouldn't see that.
Speaker 3: Ease an episode of anything right now, you know, very intense.
Speaker 3: But so anyway, SO did that kind of stuff.
Speaker 7: Twelve, I did a Kellogg's Frosted Miniwe's commercial I feel
Speaker 7: like I'm looking at my IMDb right now, that a
Speaker 7: bunch of other stuff.
Speaker 3: We don't talk about.
Speaker 7: Fifteen was the first movie you guys were talking about
Speaker 7: Alison Mack in your in your episode Alison.
Speaker 2: Mack oh the person.
Speaker 3: Ok, you get these two mixed up?
Speaker 5: I know this, we all do, do you know?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't get I don't.
Speaker 7: I see the point. I see that they're easy to
Speaker 7: mix up. But yeah, so she was about eleven.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it was.
Speaker 7: Yeah, she'd been working by then, of course, But so
Speaker 7: I knew her at eleven in Camp Nowhere.
Speaker 8: Right, which a lot of big thing, Hilen you told
Speaker 8: me then, yes, yeah, yes, she was in the same
Speaker 8: episode that we were in and Disneyworld.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, small World. So Hillary was in that. So
Speaker 3: so yeah, so that was at fifteen.
Speaker 7: Fifteen sixteen, And of course, as I mentioned, you know,
Speaker 7: I went obviously on your show, I did.
Speaker 1: Thunder Alley was before that, right, thunder Ally was like.
Speaker 3: You know what, that's a good question. It would have
Speaker 3: been right like right in the.
Speaker 2: Same nowhere is nineteen ninety four. Okay, so thunder Ally than.
Speaker 3: Before ninety three.
Speaker 1: It was the first season of Boy.
Speaker 6: No, first season of Boy. Right next to us was
Speaker 6: Home Improvement. Yes, I think thunder Ally came second season.
Speaker 2: I thought second season. Yeah, yeah, so right around there.
Speaker 5: You were you in a California kid?
Speaker 3: Were you?
Speaker 5: Were you born and raised in California?
Speaker 3: Yes? So I grew up in the valley.
Speaker 7: Actually, obviously, Danielle and I've known each other since bay
Speaker 7: Watch or before.
Speaker 2: It was a bay Watch audition. So Andrew and I
Speaker 2: met in probably ninety one, wow, and we were at
Speaker 2: an audition for Baywatch. Andrew booked the part that he
Speaker 2: was auditioning for. I was auditioning to play a young
Speaker 2: girl with cancer who was dying. And it's pretty remarkable
Speaker 2: that I didn't have the chops to pull it off
Speaker 2: because we all know, so we are? You know how
Speaker 2: good I was?
Speaker 6: You are you dying on the Do you also need
Speaker 6: to be seen from the center team?
Speaker 2: Do you remember the episode?
Speaker 3: Andrew? I literally would have to watch it. I have again.
Speaker 3: I think I was like the kid giving the other
Speaker 3: kid alcohol.
Speaker 1: So you're always influence man, bad influence kid.
Speaker 7: Yeah, until until Seventh Heaven, where I was a good
Speaker 7: guy with.
Speaker 3: A child from a sixteen you know at sixteen seventeen.
Speaker 7: So I don't know young dad and that was that
Speaker 7: was a nice role opposite Jessica Biel.
Speaker 2: Well, we're going to get into that.
Speaker 3: We're going to get into that.
Speaker 5: We'll get into that. We'll get into that.
Speaker 2: We got to slow down, Andrew.
Speaker 3: I'm excited.
Speaker 5: It's so excited.
Speaker 4: Hi, I'm Kate Hudson and I'm Oliver Hudson. And last
Speaker 4: I checked for siblings and this is sibling revelry. We're
Speaker 4: full blood siblings, the only.
Speaker 9: Full blood and our family.
Speaker 4: Well not in the world, I mean in the whole world.
Speaker 4: This is it, Like no one anyway. We're back with
Speaker 4: season four. I can't believe it.
Speaker 9: I'm so excited, bigger and better than ever. You might
Speaker 9: be asking yourself, what is sibling revelry?
Speaker 4: Yeah, well we just made it up. There is no
Speaker 4: sibling revelry. It's reveling in your sibling.
Speaker 9: And it's fun because we've decided to open it up,
Speaker 9: you know, to really like all kinds of different siblings
Speaker 9: and it's going to be an awesome season.
Speaker 4: So listen to Sibling Revelry on the iHeartRadio app, apple
Speaker 4: Pie casts or wherever you listen to God.
Speaker 2: So I wanted to talk camp nowhere beloved movie. People
Speaker 2: still talk about it. Also, Jessica Alba's first job.
Speaker 4: Really, yes, so what was that.
Speaker 2: Experience, Like, what do you remember from filming it?
Speaker 7: So they thought it was a good idea to cast
Speaker 7: a boy and a girl and they were the kissing
Speaker 7: couple and they were supposed to kiss over the six
Speaker 7: or eight weeks we saw the film.
Speaker 3: Needless to say, they did not.
Speaker 7: Like each other after a few kisses. So Jessica came
Speaker 7: in as a replacement to be the kissing girl and
Speaker 7: the other kissing girl. And then it ended up being
Speaker 7: if you watch the movie, it's like there's a mud
Speaker 7: scene and they're like wet and mud and the kissing.
Speaker 5: But it didn't it didn't.
Speaker 7: It wasn't a storyline that really made it through from
Speaker 7: in the way that it was in the script.
Speaker 3: So that's how Jessica was. And then we became really close.
Speaker 3: At the time, she was really you know, we.
Speaker 7: Were all young, I think between thirteen fourteen fifteen years old,
Speaker 7: so I remember I think we had her either thirteenth
Speaker 7: or fourteenth birthday at my house and like our families
Speaker 7: got along and we did a bunch of fun things together.
Speaker 3: So yeah, we so that was yeah, that was camp.
Speaker 7: Nowhere she was in it. Let's see, that was really
Speaker 7: wild at Christopher Lloyd of course, Jonathan Jackson, Jackson, Yeah,
Speaker 7: all these names like having to pull them out, but yeah,
Speaker 7: John and Jackson was great.
Speaker 3: It was a great experience. I mean, getting out of school.
Speaker 3: We were working up.
Speaker 7: At the Disney Ranch, which is where they shot Dukes
Speaker 7: of Hazzard, which was cool and it's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: So you joined thunder Ally in season two, and we've
Speaker 2: talked about it quite a few times on Podmeats World,
Speaker 2: since you guys were then, you know, filming next door
Speaker 2: to us. And by the time you got on that,
Speaker 2: you and I had already known each other now for
Speaker 2: a few years. So we met at that audition for
Speaker 2: Baywatch in like ninety one, and then in the way
Speaker 2: you do as a young actor, you bump into each
Speaker 2: other at multiple auditions, and then by the time you
Speaker 2: were on thunder Alley, it was like, oh, my gosh,
Speaker 2: my friend Andrew is here now. But that's really where
Speaker 2: we solidified our friendship and basically became BFFs forever. But
Speaker 2: do you remember your audition for thunder Ally and finding
Speaker 2: out that you were going to be on primetime TV.
Speaker 7: You know, you guys have spoken about this, and again
Speaker 7: I was always very impressed. You guys always felt super
Speaker 7: comfortable and you were in your flow coming onto a
Speaker 7: show with Ed Asner, a six year old Haley Joel Osmon,
Speaker 7: two other ten eleven year olds and being about that
Speaker 7: age where you're just recognizing like this is a big deal.
Speaker 3: This is a lot of pressure, and I was pretty
Speaker 3: nervous and pretty I would say, it's just it's the
Speaker 3: great unknown. I'm going to go in front.
Speaker 7: I mean, I had done it, but it's like to
Speaker 7: go in front of the three cameras, in front of
Speaker 7: an audience, and there was just a lot of pressure.
Speaker 3: As far as the audition, I remember not thinking that
Speaker 3: it went that well, but that they seem to really
Speaker 3: like it.
Speaker 7: So I was like, well, I guess that worked. Found
Speaker 7: out about it, and again there was like this mixture.
Speaker 7: I don't know if you guys have felt this where
Speaker 7: it's like, oh, yeah, it's like kind of when you're
Speaker 7: like the dog chasing the car and it catches what
Speaker 7: as I was saying, It's like all of a sudden,
Speaker 7: it's like, wait, I got the bum I got to
Speaker 7: do this.
Speaker 3: Now, I'm used to auditioning.
Speaker 7: I've done a few little things, but this is like
Speaker 7: Ed Asner, Mary Tyler Moore show. And so I would
Speaker 7: say that was probably one of the hardest experiences. There
Speaker 7: was just so much pressure with the with the audience
Speaker 7: and working with Ed.
Speaker 3: Who's you know at the time, it must have been
Speaker 3: in his sixties, and I mean he was nice, but
Speaker 3: he was a professional.
Speaker 7: And you know, he's looking at all these kids, probably thinking,
Speaker 7: how did I end up here with four kids I'm
Speaker 7: working with?
Speaker 3: Remember you're Lynes? Okay?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we had we had the Bill Daniels on our set,
Speaker 2: who also probably was looking around like how did I
Speaker 2: end up here? I'm I'm such a pro and I'm
Speaker 2: so good at what I do, and yet here I
Speaker 2: am with all these ldren who think this is all
Speaker 2: so fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And now we understand that more, we're like, oh,
Speaker 3: that's a real job.
Speaker 7: So, but Ed was great. And then did you guys
Speaker 7: ever have Robbie Benson as a director?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: On your show?
Speaker 7: So Robbie was a child childhood actor, and I think
Speaker 7: he pretty much directed all of them. And he was
Speaker 7: also just a militant director, and I will never forget one. Like,
Speaker 7: first of all, we all cried right at different times.
Speaker 7: But I'm the sixteen year old.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, try to keep it together. There's a
Speaker 3: ten year old and eight year old and then a
Speaker 3: six year old. Haley was literally six, and it was
Speaker 3: it was incredible.
Speaker 7: I have a seven year old now almost eight, and
Speaker 7: I'm just thinking how he was able to literally and
Speaker 7: he had a lot of he had a lot of
Speaker 7: lines like he was, you know, a significant part of
Speaker 7: the show. So I was always very impressed with him.
Speaker 7: And I was like, if he's six and he can
Speaker 7: do it, I can do this.
Speaker 3: Just memorize your lines now.
Speaker 7: I know we were in a stage next to Home Improvement.
Speaker 7: Were you guys in that stage before us, because I
Speaker 7: know I remember you guys were in a different lot.
Speaker 2: We spent the first two years at Disney, so ninety three,
Speaker 2: ninety four and then ninety four and ninety five we
Speaker 2: were on the Disney. We were on stage two.
Speaker 6: Page two, okay, okay, and then I think what Home
Speaker 6: Improvement was stage one?
Speaker 5: Right, you guys were right there. I remember, yeah, you
Speaker 5: were literally if I.
Speaker 1: Remember correctly, When Boy meets World Thunder Ally Home Improvement.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were all there for at least one I think.
Speaker 1: It was all the way down and we had that
Speaker 1: one trailer with the Pa pong table and then intend
Speaker 1: video Angel.
Speaker 6: Vicki Angel and Vicki would bring us there and play
Speaker 6: basketball and do all this kind of stuff.
Speaker 7: I have a quick basketball story. So we were playing basketball.
Speaker 7: I don't know if any of you guys are there.
Speaker 7: These things, by the way, are great to hear. I
Speaker 7: have little blippets of memory. But one one day we
Speaker 7: were playing and Jonathan he was like right here, and
Speaker 7: he went up to play back, you know, basketball backed
Speaker 7: up and he hit my tooth and I was like
Speaker 7: it started to turn blacks. Ended up getting it fixed
Speaker 7: with temporarily. And yeah, so I not on my front
Speaker 7: tooth and tooth.
Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor Thomas killed one of your teeth.
Speaker 1: To beat drama, I mean, get him back, get him
Speaker 1: on here.
Speaker 6: We want Jonathan Taylor Thomas the whole tooth.
Speaker 5: That's what I'm.
Speaker 2: Putting this all down for Danielle's diary.
Speaker 5: I love the whole tooth and nothing, the whole tooth
Speaker 5: and nothing but the tooth. No further questions. So I
Speaker 5: have a question for you, Andrew you.
Speaker 6: You mentioned that you celebrated somebody's thirteenth birthday on the
Speaker 6: set Where's the strangest place You've ever celebrated your birthday?
Speaker 2: On a podcast Heavy Birthday.
Speaker 7: I noticed behind Danielle like the date, and I was like,
Speaker 7: I wonder if she remembers.
Speaker 3: I do well done, well done, well done.
Speaker 2: So let's spend a little bit of time. Well, first
Speaker 2: of all, what are you doing after this to celebrate
Speaker 2: your birthday?
Speaker 7: I have I'm gonna pick up my daughter and actually
Speaker 7: we're doing a little dinner just around the corner at
Speaker 7: a nice Italian restaurant. Just kind of threw it up
Speaker 7: some friends. If you guys want to join, come on
Speaker 7: over to the West Side. We're just going to hang
Speaker 7: out and have dinner.
Speaker 5: There's a West Side.
Speaker 2: So I want to I want to have a little
Speaker 2: bit of fun talking about our friendship because I have
Speaker 2: I have so many amazing stories with you. But I
Speaker 2: I some like like you, my memory is not incredible.
Speaker 2: You remember you say that I have a good memory,
Speaker 2: But it's because you remember how good I was at
Speaker 2: remembering lines. I can memorize that, Like, my memory's great
Speaker 2: with that act, memories of my actual life are a
Speaker 2: little harder for me to remember for some reason. So
Speaker 2: I actually the reason I said we met at the
Speaker 2: bay Watch audition is because I asked my mom. I
Speaker 2: didn't even remember that we had met at that Baywatch audition.
Speaker 2: What do you remember about our friendship and how much
Speaker 2: time you spent at our house and how much time
Speaker 2: you spent with our family? You taught you tried to
Speaker 2: teach me how to drive stick shift? Do you remember that?
Speaker 2: Do you remember me stalling out your car over and
Speaker 2: over again?
Speaker 4: I can feel it.
Speaker 6: I can feel the gears grinding, I get just oh,
Speaker 6: I can feel it happening.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, can you imagine now? What were you? Fifteen?
Speaker 3: Dick shift? Did we wait a second? Didn't we run
Speaker 3: from the cops one time? And night? We did?
Speaker 2: We did?
Speaker 3: We did?
Speaker 2: We did?
Speaker 3: We did?
Speaker 5: Wait? Did you're burying the lead?
Speaker 6: What what happened for the cops?
Speaker 3: The story?
Speaker 5: We did it?
Speaker 2: Okay, go tell the story. Tell the story. I hope
Speaker 2: my children never listened to this podcast.
Speaker 3: This wasn't this wasn't the one I was even thinking of.
Speaker 3: And there's another story. So we went.
Speaker 7: I'm teaching her how to drive in the shadow Hills area,
Speaker 7: which was horse country in the deeper valley than probably
Speaker 7: where you guys are.
Speaker 3: So we're driving up and down in the hills and around.
Speaker 7: And we're going down and I mean, I'm sixteen, so
Speaker 7: I have no business having, you know, anybody in the
Speaker 7: car at the time with the permit.
Speaker 3: Apparently maybe I was fifteen. I'm not even sure.
Speaker 7: We go down this hill around the Weimer's house and
Speaker 7: we go down and there's a and we're in the
Speaker 7: middle of nowhere. I mean, you know, there's a cop
Speaker 7: every three months.
Speaker 3: And this cop goes by and I'm fortunately driving at
Speaker 3: the time, and I know the neighborhood. I'm like, and
Speaker 3: he looked at us, you know that look when you're
Speaker 3: driving by. He's like, I know that book.
Speaker 2: Because you are about two and a half years older
Speaker 2: than me. So if you were sixteen, I was like
Speaker 2: thirteen and a half.
Speaker 3: Well maybe for me, I was like seventeen eighteen. All
Speaker 3: I know is we just didn't want to get pulled
Speaker 3: over correct.
Speaker 7: So we went down the hill and I just it
Speaker 7: was it was like he had to turn around, and
Speaker 7: I knew a few turns, and I just went home,
Speaker 7: put the car in the garage and I was like,
Speaker 7: we're good.
Speaker 5: It's playing video games.
Speaker 3: So yeah, we did. We did that.
Speaker 7: But then another driving story, and this is the one
Speaker 7: that I'll never forget, is going to your mom saying
Speaker 7: go ahead, Andrew, you know how to drive. You can
Speaker 7: take Danielle to Disneyland. So we got in her Accura
Speaker 7: I don't remember to make but it was a nice
Speaker 7: you know, big mom car.
Speaker 2: He drive car.
Speaker 7: I drove your mom is accurate from Calabasas, which.
Speaker 3: I still don't know that this was a good idea,
Speaker 3: but it got worse. So we get to Disneyland, which
Speaker 3: I already felt like I'm winning. I've got Danielle, I'm driving,
Speaker 3: and I'm at disney Land. What's better than this. We
Speaker 3: walk into Disneyland and it was just like this, all right,
Speaker 3: we're here.
Speaker 6: Cool.
Speaker 7: There's the magical you know, what's it called magic Magic
Speaker 7: Magic Castle.
Speaker 3: We got Magic Kingdom. So we go through and all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, you know, a little little chime over here,
Speaker 3: a little bit.
Speaker 7: Next thing, you know, we're just like enveloped with people
Speaker 7: and we get a picture, go get river and I'm
Speaker 7: just looking at her.
Speaker 3: It's like it's the bank. It's whatever they called me
Speaker 3: back then, and I was like, we gotta think, we
Speaker 3: gotta go. So I think we got a halfway up
Speaker 3: the street to the Magic Kingdom and we're just like,
Speaker 3: let's let's let's get out of here. It's getting scary,
Speaker 3: just me and you, and we literally ran out and
Speaker 3: drove him.
Speaker 6: That was the last time I was a Disney Literally,
Speaker 6: that was the last time you're at Disneyland.
Speaker 5: Really, as he has an.
Speaker 2: Eight year old and uh, and he still hasn't been
Speaker 2: back to Disneyland.
Speaker 7: So I'm holding that story for as a block for
Speaker 7: me to go to Disneyland. So I decide I'm gonna
Speaker 7: go to Disney World. They haven't done it since we
Speaker 7: all were there. My daughter is six at the time.
Speaker 7: I have some cousins in Florida. So we go book
Speaker 7: at the Wilderness and I pay for the trip, and
Speaker 7: I'm like, you guys, let's let's bring the kids.
Speaker 3: We're gonna go to disney World.
Speaker 7: So we do one day at Magic Kingdom, one day
Speaker 7: at Animal Kingdom, third day at the Hollywood and I
Speaker 7: was going for I'm like, we're doing We're just gonna
Speaker 7: do them all.
Speaker 3: The third day we get home and I'm like, oh
Speaker 3: that burger, Oh no, that's so good. But I'll be fine.
Speaker 3: I'll be fine. That night Wicked six some kind of bug.
Speaker 7: I'm up all I literally called the paramedics and like,
Speaker 7: new Fee shows.
Speaker 5: Up, you're seriously dehydrated.
Speaker 7: But I literally called, you know, like you're good, and
Speaker 7: I'm like, no, I'm not. I just hit my head
Speaker 7: grown up so much.
Speaker 3: Everything's coming out. It was horrible.
Speaker 7: So I took the next plane and went home. So
Speaker 7: those are my two Disney stories.
Speaker 6: I don't know, I'm sorry, but I just see the
Speaker 6: entire Disney like, you know, Mickey around. Oh he's coding,
Speaker 6: all right, everybody clear, Like I just this this whole
Speaker 6: kind of everybody rushing in.
Speaker 5: I don't know why it's so funny to me, but god,
Speaker 5: it is.
Speaker 3: So we gotta try.
Speaker 6: Maybe not maybe as an adult, we'll try disney Land.
Speaker 6: We'll all go together. Maybe we'll get a guide. We'll like,
Speaker 6: we'll do it, right.
Speaker 3: I need some support guys to go. Yeah, that would
Speaker 3: be right. That would be the way I would do it.
Speaker 5: That's how we shoot. They'll bring their kids, it'll be
Speaker 5: fun kids. Shuldee that wait, who's got kids?
Speaker 3: I know Danielle. Does you guys have kids as well?
Speaker 5: I have a stepdaughter thirty four.
Speaker 2: It's a little different, it's slightly different.
Speaker 3: Definitely definitely not a kid, my guess.
Speaker 6: Or two I'll be I'll be a grandfather. So yeah, no,
Speaker 6: it's very different on my end.
Speaker 2: Yes, writer's got a nine year old son who we
Speaker 2: would so yeah, we'll do. We'll do a proper Disney
Speaker 2: trip with a guide right in an Indy and I'll
Speaker 2: bring my kids, and Andrew, you could bring your daughter.
Speaker 2: Just I want to know to the car that you
Speaker 2: let me drive, the red one. You built that car yourself,
Speaker 2: right that car? Do you still have it? I need
Speaker 2: to know. I need to remember all the details of
Speaker 2: the car because I know that car was like your baby.
Speaker 2: Tell everyone what it was.
Speaker 7: My dad was in the Vietnam War, so he brought
Speaker 7: it over from Okinawa, so he bought it, knew there,
Speaker 7: had it shipped, and it was.
Speaker 3: Sitting in the garage.
Speaker 7: You know, this would have been probably fifteen or twenty
Speaker 7: years later, so it was sitting in the garage and
Speaker 7: I always just had like an affinity to it. It's
Speaker 7: you know, it's a part of your life. And when
Speaker 7: I think I was thirteen fourteen. I actually did camp
Speaker 7: nowhere and the character was into fixing cars. And I'm
Speaker 7: not sure which came first, but life inmitating our imitating life,
Speaker 7: like whatever they say about that. So I was like,
Speaker 7: I'm going to fix up this car. So I started to,
Speaker 7: you know, break down the doors, and yeah, it did
Speaker 7: put the car.
Speaker 3: I mean there's a lot of.
Speaker 7: Parts that you don't do, like painting, and sure there's
Speaker 7: certainly mechanical things.
Speaker 3: But of car.
Speaker 7: Was it a seventy one mgb Oh great car, little car,
Speaker 7: a little creak car, the spokes on the wheels and
Speaker 7: like a little starter project.
Speaker 3: So yeah, that was the safest car. It definitely would
Speaker 3: not be in a category safe at all.
Speaker 6: No perfect Californi car, though, Oh man, what a California car.
Speaker 3: Perfect car to teach Danielle how to drive.
Speaker 5: Grinding the gears on a classic. Oh it just got
Speaker 5: so much worse. The story just got so much worse.
Speaker 3: I answer, yeah, to answer your question, I did end
Speaker 3: up getting riden.
Speaker 7: It was just a time where it was like cars
Speaker 7: are just too much, So I got rid of all
Speaker 7: the cars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would also like to share that Andrew and
Speaker 2: I decided when we were very young that we would
Speaker 2: be the only two people who are allowed to call
Speaker 2: each other Andy and Danny, and I have held true
Speaker 2: to that. No one is allowed to call me Danny's
Speaker 2: for Andrew. Have you ever let anybody call you Andy?
Speaker 3: If it wasn't two days ago, I just told somebody
Speaker 3: I hate that name, and I don't let anybody call
Speaker 3: me that. But you can't.
Speaker 2: Exactly say, that's just one of those little things. Okay,
Speaker 2: now I have.
Speaker 3: Hey, I just were talking about it.
Speaker 7: We were like the cutest little friend cut in and
Speaker 7: you guys were teasing me earlier. Of course, who didn't
Speaker 7: have a crush on Daniel, But we established a very
Speaker 7: good friend dynamic and just wrote it out and it's
Speaker 7: just a few years later.
Speaker 2: It was so it was just such a fun friendship.
Speaker 2: And I have so many pictures of us together, and
Speaker 2: one of my favorites is writers in his fedora. At
Speaker 2: my fifteenth birthday party, and Andrew was there and he
Speaker 2: Andrew bought me. He was like one of the first
Speaker 2: people to buy me jewelry. So I have like a
Speaker 2: ring with on a necklace that I'm wearing that Andrew
Speaker 2: gave me. He bought me a bracelet and an anklet.
Speaker 2: We have this picture of him putting the anklet on me.
Speaker 2: Oh geez, and yeah, we.
Speaker 3: Just none of it. None of it worked, well, none
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 1: Daniel's mom is in the background.
Speaker 5: You please make this work.
Speaker 2: My mom would have been thrilled. She loved and she
Speaker 2: still does love Andrews.
Speaker 5: I'm glad the affinity for jewelry went away.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5: We're walking Dan Yell and I.
Speaker 6: Are walking down the street of Austin, out of nowhere,
Speaker 6: about to have a live show. We passed, we passed
Speaker 6: the jewelry place and she just looks me goes, do
Speaker 6: you want to buy me some jewelry?
Speaker 2: Joy?
Speaker 3: Sorry? He was like what. No.
Speaker 5: She's like, all right, you can if you want. Friends
Speaker 5: do that for each other.
Speaker 6: And there will be no pictures of.
Speaker 5: Me putting in I'll let you call me Danny.
Speaker 4: That's all.
Speaker 5: It takes a little sparkle.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: So I have a very funny story. But I just
Speaker 2: have to tell the story because it'll give you an
Speaker 2: idea one really into the mindset of young Danielle and
Speaker 2: into an idea of our friendship. So, and I don't
Speaker 2: even know if Andy knows this, but I was on
Speaker 2: the phone with him when I got my period for
Speaker 2: the very first time. I was like, I need to
Speaker 2: call you back, and he was like okay, and we
Speaker 2: hang up the phone and I run out of my
Speaker 2: room and I announced at the top of the stairs
Speaker 2: as loud as could be, Mom, I got my period.
Speaker 2: I was so excited. I was thrilled. And my mom
Speaker 2: comes out and she goes, she goes, why are you
Speaker 2: so excited? And I was like, I am so excited.
Speaker 2: She's like I think I cried when she's like so
Speaker 2: healthy that, oh my gosh. Well, because you know, all
Speaker 2: I wanted in the world was to be an adult.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to be a grown up, and so
Speaker 2: this was like, oh, well, you can't be a grown
Speaker 2: up until this happens.
Speaker 4: So I call my mom.
Speaker 2: My mom comes in, We talked, you know, we do
Speaker 2: all the things you need to do whatever, and then
Speaker 2: I go, I gotta call Andrew back, and my mom goes,
Speaker 2: hold on, do not tell Andrew. Andrew doesn't need to
Speaker 2: know that. He doesn't really.
Speaker 3: Boys really love to talk about or are ready to.
Speaker 2: Like very sure call him back, but like, don't tell Andrew.
Speaker 2: That's funny and now I don't really I don't remember
Speaker 2: if I told him it. Probably it seems to be
Speaker 2: that it's something I may have done that I would
Speaker 2: have told Andrew. Did I tell you?
Speaker 3: It sounds very familiar.
Speaker 7: I remember we would have those conversations really close. That's
Speaker 7: where you are, so you know, for those of you
Speaker 7: and listening to this, there was only a hard line.
Speaker 7: You know, this is before cell phones, so we'd be
Speaker 7: on the phone with the cord and you know, going
Speaker 7: to sleep.
Speaker 3: And we talked for countless hours.
Speaker 7: So I definitely remember, not sure you told me that night,
Speaker 7: but that you telling it now?
Speaker 3: Does I do know? You literally were like but you
Speaker 3: even like said, I'm supposed to tell you, but.
Speaker 5: Yeah, my mom not to tell you, but just oh cool.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I still don't know what to say to this, right,
Speaker 3: I'm still awkward, Like.
Speaker 2: Still an awkward conversation.
Speaker 6: We didn't know Rider and I didn't know how close
Speaker 6: the two of you were. I mean, we knew that
Speaker 6: you were friends, and we we you hung around on
Speaker 6: the set of Boy Metroled a lot.
Speaker 5: You were on the show.
Speaker 6: We obviously knew you, but we thought it was all
Speaker 6: through Angel and VICKI so we didn't realize.
Speaker 5: We didn't know that that's what it was. We had
Speaker 5: the same gym teacher, Like, that's what it was, you know.
Speaker 3: So yeah, Angel and Jickie.
Speaker 2: Podcast.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's its own. Oh that's right, that was they
Speaker 3: were the gym people, remember them.
Speaker 6: All the stories that just went through Andrews and all
Speaker 6: the stories and was the head.
Speaker 3: So they got me to do this boxerati video.
Speaker 7: Do you remember the exercise stuff they we did grindline.
Speaker 5: Video, d boxing video videos left and right with you guys.
Speaker 7: We we did a videos and stuff and I was
Speaker 7: so unprepared because this boxing move and I'm not that coordinated.
Speaker 7: I just remember how difficult it was to film it
Speaker 7: and how disappointed they were that.
Speaker 3: I didn't know the one too in the video. Oh please,
Speaker 3: I hope it's I want to buy them all.
Speaker 2: And we're going to find box Sarati.
Speaker 6: I was just gonna say, how is box Sarati not
Speaker 6: the greatest title for anything ever?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Sarat But Andrew.
Speaker 1: Didn't you go you went to Hawaii? My brother went
Speaker 1: to Hawaii with you with was it with.
Speaker 3: Angel and Vicki two or Angel? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Because I know Shilah went surfing with you in Hawaii
Speaker 1: at one point for like a trip, my.
Speaker 3: First trip ever, and again just going for the full
Speaker 3: story here, folks.
Speaker 7: We're in a hotel in Waikiki, Angel, I think Rider,
Speaker 7: and I think there was somebody else there I can't remember, and.
Speaker 3: My brother's best friend Nate, Nate and Angel and you, yeah,
Speaker 3: the surfing trip on a surf trip.
Speaker 7: So and I think my friend who I'm still really
Speaker 7: good friends with, I think he might have been there
Speaker 7: as well in the r short so, but this was
Speaker 7: my first experience with Maui Wowie.
Speaker 6: Maui Wowe is old school's classic weed. It's like ty stick. Yeah.
Speaker 7: And when I say Maui wow weeed, this was my
Speaker 7: first time. And I swear I was lost in this hotel.
Speaker 7: Everything was growing slow and I was like.
Speaker 3: Wow, And I think it was your brother Shiloh. That
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, a couple of hits and I was
Speaker 3: like that sounds about that.
Speaker 5: Sounds and he came down.
Speaker 7: My god.
Speaker 2: I learned how to surf in Hawaii and then was
Speaker 2: so excited to come home and tell Andrew that I
Speaker 2: knew now how to surf. Andrew was like, that's amazing, Yes,
Speaker 2: you can go surfing with me now, and I was
Speaker 2: like yeah. And so one morning, at like four thirty
Speaker 2: in the morning, Andrew came and picked me up and
Speaker 2: it was still dark and took me out to Malibu
Speaker 2: and I went in there and I touched one little
Speaker 2: toe in the water and was like, what the hell
Speaker 2: is this getting in this water? I think I went
Speaker 2: out and tried to catch like one or two ways.
Speaker 2: I didn't even it was dead. I was freezing and
Speaker 2: I was like, I'll just wait for you on the beach.
Speaker 2: I think that was the only time Andrew ever took me.
Speaker 5: You know what helps with that? Ma wowie? Yeah, promise you.
Speaker 2: So your name came up again recently when we were
Speaker 2: talking with Writer specifically about the sale with the Stars
Speaker 2: cruise that we had years ago, and your name came
Speaker 2: up because we were talking about Rider and his discomfort
Speaker 2: with the heart throb status. You were one of those
Speaker 2: quintessential teen heart throbs? Did it ever like? And the
Speaker 2: way name came up is because Writer was talking about
Speaker 2: how well you handled it?
Speaker 5: Yeah, you were good at it.
Speaker 2: You were so good at it. Did you enjoy being
Speaker 2: a heart throb? Did it ever feel like too much
Speaker 2: to you? What was the experience for you.
Speaker 7: Like, I think it's an you know, it's an interesting word,
Speaker 7: and of course it does sort of evoke like a
Speaker 7: lot of different feelings.
Speaker 3: I think I was open to just the experience at
Speaker 3: the time.
Speaker 7: You know, at this time I look back and you know,
Speaker 7: there's a little bit of cringe, like your you know,
Speaker 7: heart throb is kind of this.
Speaker 3: It's also with this like past tense.
Speaker 7: But even at the time, it's like, I don't know
Speaker 7: what's going on right now.
Speaker 3: This is crazy.
Speaker 7: We're on a cruise and it was a very surreal
Speaker 7: experience that all of us really you know, participated in
Speaker 7: and that we were.
Speaker 3: You know, fond over and given all this attention.
Speaker 7: But I think, you know, I don't know that I
Speaker 7: have a particular definition to it. I can't there's times
Speaker 7: where I think I just went with it. I can't
Speaker 7: say I was like one hundred percent comfortable. I think
Speaker 7: there was a lot of times where, like I'm sure
Speaker 7: you guys experienced this Disneyland, for example, going to malls,
Speaker 7: going to airport, So there's a part of you that
Speaker 7: you can perform and be there as you're expected to be,
Speaker 7: But there's also times where you're just like I just
Speaker 7: want to get through this airport right now, and it's like,
Speaker 7: how's it going. Okay, nice, thank you to take a picture.
Speaker 7: And I still and I've always been like okay with it.
Speaker 3: You know. It's like, what an amazing gift that we.
Speaker 7: All have to bring a little bit of joy or
Speaker 7: pleasure in a moment to someone.
Speaker 3: And taking a picture.
Speaker 7: So it's it's a harmless effort that we make to
Speaker 7: make somebody day and.
Speaker 3: It's fine and actually, quite frankly, it's like kind of nice.
Speaker 3: Some people walked up to me and my daughter on
Speaker 3: aber Kenny the other day and the guy's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: you're kind of talking to me.
Speaker 7: It's like yeah, everybody says I look like Ben Fieldman,
Speaker 7: and all of a sudden, the two of them look
Speaker 7: and she's like, no, honey, he's an actor.
Speaker 3: And the boy looked at like at the same time
Speaker 3: like he's Andrew King Again. I'm eating my I'm meeting
Speaker 3: my sweet fin with my daughter and dog, and I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 3: we can take a picture. And again it's like a
Speaker 3: moment that they'll share and enjoy and for us as well.
Speaker 7: Well, it's like it's nice to bring a little pleasure
Speaker 7: but as far as heart throb, I guess I probably.
Speaker 3: Shouldn't have done too many of those photos of my
Speaker 3: shirt off.
Speaker 7: But other than that, like there's some really speaking of boxingbodie,
Speaker 7: there's some shots of me like for looks.
Speaker 2: Skinny, right, you're like a thirteen year old boy.
Speaker 3: Like literally, I'm like, who told me to take my
Speaker 3: shirt off? That such a bad idea, not developed enough yet.
Speaker 3: I hadn't had my period.
Speaker 1: And I also don't know if many young girls cared
Speaker 1: about like a seat shirts.
Speaker 5: And that was that was probably for older people.
Speaker 1: And yeah, it's a little weird to think about now, Yeah.
Speaker 3: A different podcast, we might love that one. Now.
Speaker 6: The thing I remember most about that whole time with you, though,
Speaker 6: was it was something that was very interesting because a
Speaker 6: lot of the quote unquote heart throbs at the time,
Speaker 6: like the Jonathan Brandis or Jonathan Taylor, Thomas any Ryder
Speaker 6: they all had it was all kind of also about
Speaker 6: the shows they were on, whereas you were kind of
Speaker 6: the product unto yourself, which was which was an interesting
Speaker 6: thing to see because you were working all the time,
Speaker 6: but you were you weren't on one long running thing
Speaker 6: where it was like you'd hear Jonathan Brandis and sequest
Speaker 6: like it was that kind of thing, right or strong
Speaker 6: and boy meets World where it was.
Speaker 5: Just Andrew Keegan. It was about you.
Speaker 6: And I think that's one of the reasons that maybe
Speaker 6: you handled it so well is because, you know, and
Speaker 6: I'm not saying this is a negative thing, you were
Speaker 6: already the brand, which which had never really I don't
Speaker 6: really remember happening all that much before, because it didn't
Speaker 6: matter what you were on. It was just Andrew Keegan.
Speaker 6: And I remember that about you more than I remember
Speaker 6: any of the other young quote unquote heart throbs at
Speaker 6: the time.
Speaker 7: And see, I always felt in like somewhat insecure and
Speaker 7: in the sense that I didn't have that job and
Speaker 7: I was still you know, I'm still doing this because
Speaker 7: they were happy to have me do a photo shoot
Speaker 7: and however that however that worked in selling magazines, was
Speaker 7: good for them.
Speaker 3: But it's interesting that you say that because.
Speaker 7: Of course, at that age thirteen fourteen, fifteen years old,
Speaker 7: I was not aware of anything brand or not.
Speaker 3: I just wanted to work, and I was always looking
Speaker 3: at you guys like, oh, they got a job. I
Speaker 3: got to get a job. Because while you guys are working.
Speaker 7: I'm going to every audition and it's just like I
Speaker 7: want to be on a show.
Speaker 1: Well, if you've committed to Boxerati, a little bit harder,
Speaker 1: a little harder than the thing man, Boxarati twenty three.
Speaker 3: Has coming out to a to a store, to a
Speaker 3: Blockbuster near you.
Speaker 6: Okay, can we get a double feature of Boxarati and
Speaker 6: Grinders inline?
Speaker 5: Can we can we get grinders?
Speaker 4: Can we do that?
Speaker 2: You do a double feature?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: It is interesting that you mentioned that though, because it's
Speaker 2: one of the things we talk about a lot. Is
Speaker 2: like the things we took for granted back then in
Speaker 2: the way we were all feeling like Writer would have
Speaker 2: loved nothing more than to not have been so associated
Speaker 2: with just boy Meets World. For Writer to have been
Speaker 2: actor right or strong. You could be seen anywhere, could
Speaker 2: be known for anything instead of in his mind, known
Speaker 2: for this kid's sitcom. And yet you had the total
Speaker 2: opposite feeling, which is like, oh gosh, I'm just I'm
Speaker 2: just a floating actor going here, going there, and I
Speaker 2: don't have that that show that's like that I'm known for.
Speaker 2: And so it's just interesting because you know, you don't
Speaker 2: We we all were all insecure about the things that
Speaker 2: we have and feeling like we're missing out on the
Speaker 2: thing we don't have, And yet we all look back
Speaker 2: and go, we just really should have been kinder to ourselves.
Speaker 2: Enjoyed it a whole lot more.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 7: Oh, I still look back on it with fond memories
Speaker 7: and very much I think enjoyed it.
Speaker 3: But I do remember now that you're speaking about writer.
Speaker 7: Writer was like so smart and sew in accounting crows
Speaker 7: and I was always like this.
Speaker 3: Dude, I think he had like these books that were
Speaker 3: like this year, and I was like, I think he's
Speaker 3: a scientist. He's going to do something.
Speaker 1: I mean it was like what just and miserable, just
Speaker 1: self indulgent and miserable.
Speaker 2: Then you know later what were you?
Speaker 7: I was like reading philosophical books and I was like,
Speaker 7: this was the smartest guy.
Speaker 3: I've ever met.
Speaker 7: And I know Danielle was like best friends with you too,
Speaker 7: And I was a little like, oh Man, was so.
Speaker 1: Smart but so miserable. I was just so sad all
Speaker 1: the time. You have fund members because you enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: I was miserable.
Speaker 6: Oh man, what was your When you look back, what's
Speaker 6: the project that sticks out in your mind the most, Like,
Speaker 6: what's the I mean, I wouldn't say favorite, but just
Speaker 6: one that had the most impact on you.
Speaker 7: I think, you know, of course everybody knows ten things
Speaker 7: and a great film, and like I said, I just
Speaker 7: listened to Lrissa's.
Speaker 3: And we can talk about that.
Speaker 7: The I think the product, the project that scared me
Speaker 7: the most was The Broken Hearts Club. This was Greg
Speaker 7: Borlanti directed his first directorial where they say that directorial debut,
Speaker 7: and it was Zach Braf, Dean Kine, Timothy Olaphant.
Speaker 3: And Billy Billy Quarter Geez Billy Porter.
Speaker 7: It was an amazing cast and we were it was
Speaker 7: an all gay cast of characters.
Speaker 3: And this was in ninety eight, ninety nine, and they
Speaker 3: had not done in.
Speaker 7: All gay cast of characters as far as like the film.
Speaker 3: You know leads since the sixties. So I was nineteen.
Speaker 7: I think I just remember that sort of taking that
Speaker 7: on and doing something that ultimately is not my you know,
Speaker 7: my sexual you know, but it wasn't about that. It
Speaker 7: was about this these these guys in their life in
Speaker 7: West Hollywood. But that part of it scared me, you know, obviously,
Speaker 7: And that project, I think it turned out really well,
Speaker 7: and it's still, you know, in a way as classic
Speaker 7: as Ten Things, but obviously a different kind of film.
Speaker 3: That's so cool.
Speaker 2: Let's jump in really quick to Boy Meets World when
Speaker 2: you were Ronnie Lips Waterman. We recently we made you
Speaker 2: watch your episode. Did you watch it?
Speaker 3: Yes? With my daughter, by the which is yeah.
Speaker 2: Do you do you have any memories of filming it?
Speaker 2: Do you remember in Orlando? If you do, remember, what
Speaker 2: do you remember about it?
Speaker 3: I see such a procrastinator. I'm going to let it
Speaker 3: come to me now.
Speaker 7: I just remember, like obviously how excited I was to
Speaker 7: travel and shoot something.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I remember obviously you being a dear friend, best friend,
Speaker 7: and that was really cool. I remember some of the
Speaker 7: pictures I saw. I don't know what the hell I
Speaker 7: was thinking as far as what I was wearing and
Speaker 7: the sunglasses. That's a whole other subject for another day
Speaker 7: Fashion Fashion podcast.
Speaker 3: The nineties, the nineties, but I mean, I remember we
Speaker 3: were in a parade that.
Speaker 2: I remember parades.
Speaker 3: I'm ready for what you got and see if it
Speaker 3: jogs any of my memories.
Speaker 2: I think one of the only things I remember, and
Speaker 2: I talked about it really recently on one of the
Speaker 2: podcasts is. I do remember that you had a bigger
Speaker 2: part on the episode when we started the week, and
Speaker 2: then as the week went on, and probably all the
Speaker 2: trims and cuts that needed to happen as the episode was,
Speaker 2: you know, going, because of all the things you can't
Speaker 2: really account for, being out of town and all those things.
Speaker 2: I remember there being a frustration with how underused you were,
Speaker 2: and it felt like they didn't give you a lot
Speaker 2: to play off of. You didn't really have much of
Speaker 2: a character, and I remember feeling a little like stuck
Speaker 2: between wanting to like should I do? I can't say
Speaker 2: anything like these are my superiors, I can't be like
Speaker 2: excuse me, but also feeling like this is my best
Speaker 2: friend and he they're they're not really doing him justice
Speaker 2: for this character, for this role. So I kind of
Speaker 2: remember that, and yet I don't remember all the details
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 3: I do having seen it. I do completely agree.
Speaker 7: So that makes total sense because it was a very
Speaker 7: two dimensional, like here he is at a better episode.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it would have been such a better episode if
Speaker 1: if Ronnie had like actual character and like something to do,
Speaker 1: because then.
Speaker 5: Like there would have been a real wret. Yes, saying
Speaker 5: the same thing, an actual threating.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, there was no conflict. There was no you know,
Speaker 3: there really was no.
Speaker 7: I mean I just watched it. There was Yeah, now
Speaker 7: that you mentioned, there was like no issue that we
Speaker 7: really had. It was just kind of bouncing around, and
Speaker 7: I guess you know, that was That was just that.
Speaker 3: That was about the Lips. That was it.
Speaker 2: That was it.
Speaker 6: You have to say, though, you have to say, probably
Speaker 6: top five best character names in the history of Ronnie
Speaker 6: Lips Waterman.
Speaker 5: I mean, it has to be top five.
Speaker 3: I just got a little excited when Will said it
Speaker 3: that way.
Speaker 2: What did your daughter think when you watched it?
Speaker 3: I don't know what it is. She has got a
Speaker 3: very strong attitude.
Speaker 7: She's she's like literally a teenager at seven turning eight
Speaker 7: years old.
Speaker 3: I tried to cover her eyes during the kissing part
Speaker 3: and she's.
Speaker 1: Like no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3: And at this point she's just kind of like used
Speaker 3: to it.
Speaker 7: We went to the ice cream store the other day
Speaker 7: and the lady's like, hey, you know.
Speaker 3: You you look a little familiar. Yeah, he's in La.
Speaker 5: All right, Little Publishers.
Speaker 3: She just throws it out there, like, yeah, my dad's
Speaker 3: in that movie. I was like, thanks a lot, appreciate that,
Speaker 3: but no, she loves the show, by the way.
Speaker 7: So when we when I first talked to you about
Speaker 7: doing it, we started watching episodes and I called Danielle
Speaker 7: and I was like, I can get.
Speaker 3: Her on the phone. I'm trying to be a cool dad.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I get her on the phone, and I did.
Speaker 3: Thank you, by the way for.
Speaker 5: Taking it, thank you for taking the call.
Speaker 6: We still say that to Danielle when Danielle ever answers
Speaker 6: the phone, We're like, thank you, Danielle for picking up
Speaker 6: the phone.
Speaker 3: Is Danny? There is Danny? They exactly.
Speaker 2: It's like, better be Andy. Better be Andy if I'm
Speaker 2: being called Danny. Okay. So later you would appear in
Speaker 2: over twenty episodes of Seventh Heaven as Wilson West, a
Speaker 2: teen dad, and you were Jessica Biel's serious boyfriend on
Speaker 2: the show. It was the WB's most watched show ever,
Speaker 2: and now it has kind of made this insane resurgence
Speaker 2: over the past two years because on TikTok people are
Speaker 2: analyzing it because of some of the more crazy storylines.
Speaker 2: So here are just some examples of some story lines
Speaker 2: from Seventh Heaven. Simon uses his middle finger and gets
Speaker 2: suspended from school. Sheerie Appleby plays Karen, a teenager who
Speaker 2: joins a street gang. Ruthie, the white, middle aged mother,
Speaker 2: is suspected of being Al Qaeda, forcing family to be
Speaker 2: detained at the airport.
Speaker 3: What what wow?
Speaker 2: Simon hangs out with Hoffers at school.
Speaker 3: Okay? Yes? Or glue? Okay? Okay.
Speaker 2: Eric dreams he's Elvis during open heart surgery. The family
Speaker 2: dog finds a joint in the house, and Eric threatens
Speaker 2: to drug test his entire family, including his five year
Speaker 2: old daughter Ruthie.
Speaker 5: Wow, can get.
Speaker 6: Before you go on any further, Danielle, this is the
Speaker 6: only thing that's been sticky in my head, uses his
Speaker 6: middle finger to what.
Speaker 5: I'm hoping flip somebody off?
Speaker 6: Okay, because the way you're there could that storyline could
Speaker 6: have gone a lot of places.
Speaker 2: Just to flip somebody off and to get from school
Speaker 2: from the oh okay, pew So, Andy, do you have
Speaker 2: a favorite episode or scene you were in from Seventh Heaven?
Speaker 7: M So, I do remember it, and I wouldn't know
Speaker 7: the episode, but I remember it was maybe one of
Speaker 7: the breaking up I had, like these really long monologues.
Speaker 3: Did you did you do? Seventh of It?
Speaker 6: As well.
Speaker 3: I did not Daniel, did anybody? Okay, So I guess
Speaker 3: it would be similar you on your show three camera
Speaker 3: or yeah, three camera show, but you got to get
Speaker 3: the lines. You had to nail the lines.
Speaker 7: They want them a certain way, and it was like
Speaker 7: that on this, uh of course a single film camera show,
Speaker 7: but they really wanted every word that like you couldn't
Speaker 7: change it so or there was just it had to be.
Speaker 3: Literally like it was written.
Speaker 7: But I had two huge monologues and I was so nervous,
Speaker 7: but I memorized them and I was like, I'm gonna
Speaker 7: nail it, nail it, and I did, and I nailed it,
Speaker 7: and I like two hours early, and they were like,
Speaker 7: you know, these were a lot of older filmmakers. I mean,
Speaker 7: there was a guy director from gun Smoke that was
Speaker 7: directing I think that episode, so literally he was a
Speaker 7: director from gun Smoke. So that was my highlight when
Speaker 7: I got through that day. As far as episodes, the
Speaker 7: kid the kids started as a baby and then I
Speaker 7: think the second season it popped up to like a
Speaker 7: four year old.
Speaker 3: So I had to work with the twins.
Speaker 7: I think there was actually triplets. The second time working
Speaker 7: with Jess was great. She is just such a talk
Speaker 7: like at the time, such a tomboy. We would like
Speaker 7: hang out, go to the movies, do all kinds of
Speaker 7: fun things. And I'm sure you remember. I actually think
Speaker 7: there was an episode of Thunder ally that Jessica Biel
Speaker 7: and Jessica Albert came in the audience.
Speaker 3: I don't somebody told me. I was reminded of that,
Speaker 3: and I was like, yeah, that probably did happen at
Speaker 3: some point, but yeah, Jesse was great, and.
Speaker 7: I don't know, it was nice to be under again,
Speaker 7: these are very like professional environments, and at that time
Speaker 7: I was, you know, seventeen eighteen, so but yes, as
Speaker 7: far as a favorite episode, I mean, I guess any
Speaker 7: of the episodes that I Gotta Kiss jess.
Speaker 2: Right, pretty awesome ones.
Speaker 3: They stand out.
Speaker 2: One of the main things we've loved about having this
Speaker 2: podcast is that it has allowed us to take control
Speaker 2: of our own narrative. And it is so easy for
Speaker 2: a story to become a clickbait headline and to make
Speaker 2: the rounds, and then suddenly the next thing you know,
Speaker 2: it has just become fact without there being any connection
Speaker 2: to reality or truth. And we have so appreciated having
Speaker 2: this platform to provide for ourselves and to our guests
Speaker 2: the opportunity to speak on their experiences. And so I
Speaker 2: was hoping that we could talk about.
Speaker 7: You mean, when I woke up one day and I
Speaker 7: was like, anointed a cult leader.
Speaker 2: Talk about Yeah, if that's okay, I'd like to talk
Speaker 2: to you about your cult Okay, Okay, Well I'll start.
Speaker 2: I'll preface it a little bit. Around twenty fourteen, a
Speaker 2: couple of articles started popping up about your shift into
Speaker 2: being a spiritual leader, focusing on meditation and healing therapies
Speaker 2: and crystals all through what was considered a new church
Speaker 2: in Venice called Full Circle. These articles spiraled into calling
Speaker 2: Full Circle a cult and you the nineties heart throb
Speaker 2: everybody remembered a cult leader. So we got a few
Speaker 2: online comments about it, even just before this episode we
Speaker 2: recording this episode, so we hoped you could talk about
Speaker 2: it and set the record straight, are you a cult leader?
Speaker 7: So in two thoy thirteen, it was just after occupying
Speaker 7: and I moved to Venice early twenty in my early
Speaker 7: twenties and just really got immersed in the culture and
Speaker 7: the community. So and again i'll run through this quickly,
Speaker 7: but there was this interesting kind of group of hippie
Speaker 7: types if you will. In Venice, and I'm sure if
Speaker 7: you guys went on the west side there, there's definitely
Speaker 7: a lot of you know, spirituality, if you will. So
Speaker 7: I was connected with some folks and we had this opportunity.
Speaker 7: There was this the old Harry Krishna Temple, which I
Speaker 7: remember when it was the Harry Krishna Temple.
Speaker 3: That's a whole you know, other story.
Speaker 7: And it was sitting there empty, and we're like, yo,
Speaker 7: why don't we just get some people together, and like
Speaker 7: let's open this place up, and let's you know, we'd
Speaker 7: done occupying the street with a bunch of people, and
Speaker 7: I was like, let's get it together.
Speaker 3: Let's do some positive things for the community. So twenty thirteen,
Speaker 3: twenty fourteen, and at.
Speaker 7: One point we had the opportunity to get in there.
Speaker 7: We did, which was kind of a looking back, was insane.
Speaker 7: I was putting down thousands and tens of thousand dollars.
Speaker 7: But we opened it up and we spent three years
Speaker 7: and really did build an amazing friend group kind of
Speaker 7: like you know, in the senses of what you guys
Speaker 7: went through, we went through something really significant from fourteen
Speaker 7: to seventeen. What happened was as far as the articles,
Speaker 7: of course my history as an actor or no.
Speaker 3: Being known in combination with the church.
Speaker 7: It was just it was click bait central, and we
Speaker 7: had a few things that happened there.
Speaker 3: But I think the first one that kind of got
Speaker 3: it all started was this Vice article.
Speaker 7: They were They came in and you know, I probably
Speaker 7: should have had a little bit more media training at
Speaker 7: the time, and I was just like, yeah, like everything's great.
Speaker 7: There's all these wild things going on, sacred and so
Speaker 7: they just really created a very interesting, colorful story and
Speaker 7: put you know, put it together, and I think that's
Speaker 7: ultimately but we we really just got together and like
Speaker 7: we did you know, we did a Sunday thing and
Speaker 7: we did I think almost a thousand events in three years,
Speaker 7: and it was actually really hard and.
Speaker 3: It was really beneficial to a lot of people.
Speaker 7: I still hear about it now where people are like,
Speaker 7: that was such a great time. So it's kind of
Speaker 7: the opposite of what I guess, you know, you would imagine.
Speaker 3: There was no you know, doctrine.
Speaker 7: We're not trying to We're just like, you know, get
Speaker 7: people together. The co Creator Handbook was a handbook. We
Speaker 7: used the elders that we knew out of Hummingbird, New Mexico.
Speaker 3: So for for all intentsive purposes, just a really cool
Speaker 3: community center for a bunch of people in Venice for
Speaker 3: three years.
Speaker 2: It sounds much more like a group of people at
Speaker 2: burning Man more than a group of people at like
Speaker 2: in Heaven's Gate.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so there's a difference.
Speaker 3: Cult leader kind of leads into the Heavens Gate. Maybe
Speaker 3: we should have like, yeah, I come up with a
Speaker 3: different name.
Speaker 7: I thought Full Circle was pretty good. You know, what
Speaker 7: goes around comes around. I don't know whatever, you know.
Speaker 7: But again, it wasn't something with like such a specific
Speaker 7: agenda at the time.
Speaker 3: It just kind of sort of evolved from a group
Speaker 3: of people.
Speaker 7: And like I said, we've had thousands of people come
Speaker 7: through over the years and just a ton of different events,
Speaker 7: dinner parties and so you know, there was actually a
Speaker 7: podcast I heard recently where they were talking about it
Speaker 7: and they were trying to figure it out. At the
Speaker 7: end they kind of landed on like it just seems
Speaker 7: like a kind of a cool place to hang out,
Speaker 7: and that's really what it was.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: Do you find that people have people mentioned this to you, like,
Speaker 2: do you get it online? Have you ever do you
Speaker 2: get asked about it interviews? Do you that you have
Speaker 2: to debunk this often?
Speaker 7: I mean, I think at this point we all know
Speaker 7: you can't really believe what you read, and it's like
Speaker 7: anybody can call anybody anything. I actually did end up
Speaker 7: filing a defamation lawsuit against AEG and Newsmax for one
Speaker 7: of the things that happened there.
Speaker 3: But you know, they have an ability to basically say
Speaker 3: whatever they want.
Speaker 7: I put up a fight. It ends up costing you
Speaker 7: money and legal fees. And you know, of course this
Speaker 7: recent case of defamation worked out for someone. But at
Speaker 7: the time, you know, and I look back at it now,
Speaker 7: I'm like, I don't know anybody else that's being called
Speaker 7: a cult leader. So it's kind of like a badge
Speaker 7: of honor. It's like, yeah, well I was calling you
Speaker 7: a cult leader.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: So looking back now, thirty years since you first started working,
Speaker 2: maybe even more, you have a beautiful daughter of your own,
Speaker 2: do you see your childhood acting in a positive light?
Speaker 2: And would you let aya enter the business?
Speaker 3: Ah? Great question.
Speaker 7: So interestingly enough, this week she starts. I got her
Speaker 7: into a playhouse a Santa Monica play Santamonica Playhouse, Santa
Speaker 7: Monica Playhouse. So she's going to do it a little
Speaker 7: after school program. But this summer I did this film
Speaker 7: and there was as as we were talking about I
Speaker 7: had I had a daughter in the in the movie
Speaker 7: and there was a flashback scene.
Speaker 3: So I did her first movie and she did great.
Speaker 3: She just had to do a couple of scenes with me.
Speaker 3: But she was like it was like nothing to her.
Speaker 3: She's like, yeah, what do I say? What do I say?
Speaker 3: Let's go. So she's got She's got. It's just a
Speaker 3: scared question. She's got it. The question is like we've
Speaker 3: all talked about it.
Speaker 7: Is it something where it would be a great focus
Speaker 7: of her time?
Speaker 3: You know, I really want her to enjoy, you know,
Speaker 3: her childhood.
Speaker 2: Obviously, I want to talk to you about ten things
Speaker 2: I hate about you?
Speaker 3: Yeah, how could we skip?
Speaker 5: How did you've done a ton of great stuf?
Speaker 2: Want to talk to you about? Okay, so ten things
Speaker 2: I hate about you? Do you remember auditioning for it?
Speaker 2: What was that overall experience like for you?
Speaker 7: I did audition. I remember I was in a white
Speaker 7: tank top, which ended up being the helples in the movie. Yeah,
Speaker 7: I think if I remember in this of course, these
Speaker 7: are the stories they tell you we had. We actually
Speaker 7: had a twenty year reunion five years ago. It's the
Speaker 7: twenty fifth Jesus this March. Actually, you guys will probably
Speaker 7: be putting this out right about about that time. But yeah,
Speaker 7: So it was twenty five years ago, and the audition
Speaker 7: was at the Disney lot actually.
Speaker 3: The same place that we shot the show. I remember going,
Speaker 3: and if I remember correctly, Andrew Disarm was the producer,
Speaker 3: and they said, you know, sometime later like, yeah, you
Speaker 3: walked into the white tank top and did your thing.
Speaker 3: You were Joey.
Speaker 5: I was like, okay, great, cool guy.
Speaker 3: It's great. Joey eat meat on honor.
Speaker 6: Yeah, oh wow, guy's naterman.
Speaker 5: Yeah, geez.
Speaker 3: I mean, if we're going with nickname characters, another good one.
Speaker 3: He's like the right under Ronnie, right under Ronnie.
Speaker 2: I'll say, And so did you did you like specifically
Speaker 2: bond with anybody on that set? Who were your closest friends? Like,
Speaker 2: what was your experience doing the movie?
Speaker 3: That was great?
Speaker 7: Well, we're in a hotel, no cell phones, no even
Speaker 7: video games at the time, so we hung out and Tacoma,
Speaker 7: Washington for that period of time. I was actually really
Speaker 7: again ended up getting really close with Heath, especially after
Speaker 7: but even during.
Speaker 3: The time, we would go in his Volvo or know
Speaker 3: us that other car it's.
Speaker 7: Kind of like a Volvo Sobs has a Sob Sab.
Speaker 3: We'd drive there was a five mile drive and we
Speaker 3: would go up the hill and.
Speaker 7: Not exactly MAUI wowie, but you know what I mean,
Speaker 7: something something like that up there and then yeah, Larissa.
Speaker 3: Just everybody got along really well.
Speaker 7: It's just one of those iconic experiences in life to
Speaker 7: be taken out of your life, being thrown together with
Speaker 7: these amazing creative people make a film and a film
Speaker 7: that now everybody really considers as a classic, and I
Speaker 7: quite frankly think it is, and I think LUSA has
Speaker 7: mentioned it too.
Speaker 3: Like seeing it.
Speaker 7: Again, it's like, wow, that was that whole thing really worked,
Speaker 7: and it's timeless. There's just nothing particular about it that
Speaker 7: stands out that it's dated.
Speaker 3: So if you haven't seen it, go see ten Things
Speaker 3: watch it again.
Speaker 5: I haven't seen it, never seen it. You haven't seen it.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 5: I auditioned for it.
Speaker 3: I auditioned for it.
Speaker 1: I remember auditioning for it.
Speaker 3: A bunch of times, actually, like, I don't we have
Speaker 3: to watch it?
Speaker 5: Well, it's it's Shakespeare, isn't it. Isn't it based on
Speaker 5: Yeah the Shoe, isn't it?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Okay, Taming of the Shoe? Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 3: and you know, we're.
Speaker 7: What seventeen eighteen years old, so it's like this. You know,
Speaker 7: some kids go to college and considering a career as
Speaker 7: an actor. To be able to go and share this,
Speaker 7: you know, even if it's only for a couple of months,
Speaker 7: it's kind of like was my college basically, right, right.
Speaker 2: That's cool, so amazing. We're so lucky that we have
Speaker 2: because we all know what that feels like, and it is.
Speaker 2: It's such a it's it's basically extended summer camp. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, where you get to work and you're getting
Speaker 2: paid and you're bonding with people and you're sharing these
Speaker 2: things with them that like truly a handful of people,
Speaker 2: two handfuls of people really know what that kind of.
Speaker 1: And also when you're like your whole life can change
Speaker 1: in that experience. You know, Like now I think about
Speaker 1: like being in your like twenties or thirties and being
Speaker 1: an actor.
Speaker 3: It's like you can just go and do a job.
Speaker 1: But like when you're a teenager you go away for
Speaker 1: a summer to do a job, you know that those
Speaker 1: that can change your life forever.
Speaker 5: And then but then when you're done, you can also
Speaker 5: watch it like you have.
Speaker 6: You can go back and look at it whenever you
Speaker 6: want to, in those memories and hope running back every time.
Speaker 5: Yeah maybe it's not, yeah right, but it's so amazing.
Speaker 7: You guys all have this experience too, Like when you're working,
Speaker 7: you're not at school, so you're not developing. What was
Speaker 7: that like, because you know, it's like very It was
Speaker 7: very difficult for me to have any relationships at school
Speaker 7: because I'm not there.
Speaker 3: But what about you guys.
Speaker 2: Well, I went back. I went back to my regular
Speaker 2: school all the time. You probably remember that. That's why
Speaker 2: I was, you know, in Calabasas all the time. When
Speaker 2: I wasn't in an episode, I was at regular school.
Speaker 2: And so still to this day. The funny thing is
Speaker 2: outside of these you know handful of people that, of
Speaker 2: course I have known for my entire life. The majority
Speaker 2: of like my girlfriends are the girls I went to
Speaker 2: junior high in high school with my best friends, are
Speaker 2: you know Jamie Jen Jamie like all those girls I
Speaker 2: went to school with, but I also was from here.
Speaker 2: I was local, like Writer was just from up north.
Speaker 2: But he had to go home just on the weekends,
Speaker 2: and all of his best friends are still the people
Speaker 2: he knew I grew up with that he grew up.
Speaker 3: I had to go home.
Speaker 1: I had to like make a huge effort, you know,
Speaker 1: And that was at the expense of a lot of
Speaker 1: my daily happiness in LA you know, like right when
Speaker 1: we talk about like how miserable I was, Like part
Speaker 1: of that was, like I didn't think of like boy
Speaker 1: Meets World or or any of the stuff we were
Speaker 1: doing in La as my real life. Like that was
Speaker 1: all like my job and my distraction from my real life.
Speaker 1: My real life, my girlfriends, my friends, they were all
Speaker 1: up in northern California, which you know wasn't wasn't It
Speaker 1: didn't great very well, Like in retrospect, if I hadn't
Speaker 1: had such an intense duality, like I didn't need it
Speaker 1: to be so binary, like you know, in retrospect, I
Speaker 1: could have probably integrated a little bit better.
Speaker 2: But and he probably could have formed friendships with people
Speaker 2: down here, and like looked at that as being like yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have two great sets of friends, my LA
Speaker 2: friends and my up North friends. And Will truly did
Speaker 2: it right in the sense that Will had to move
Speaker 2: across the country and life really like started for him
Speaker 2: when he got here.
Speaker 3: And wait, how old were you then when you started? Will?
Speaker 5: I was ten, I started, I started back at started
Speaker 5: boy sorry, oh boy, me thrilled.
Speaker 6: I was sixteen, like two weeks or three weeks away
Speaker 6: from my seventeenth birthday when I started.
Speaker 3: I always felt like, you know, I was like, Will
Speaker 3: is older. Yeah, so well, so how old are you now?
Speaker 8: Then?
Speaker 5: I'm forty seven?
Speaker 3: Okay, so you're wow, you're a little bit. But like
Speaker 3: at the time, it was like it like a little
Speaker 3: oh yeah, you're the biggest kid.
Speaker 5: You're the biggest oldie the kid. Yeah, And that's that's
Speaker 5: always the way it was.
Speaker 6: It was that's the way, and it was it was
Speaker 6: weird because I was just talking about this with Jeff
Speaker 6: Sherman the other day. I was too old to hang
Speaker 6: out with Rider Ben and Danielle and too young to
Speaker 6: hang out with Rusty and Betsy and everybody. So I
Speaker 6: was kind of in the middle there everybody. I got
Speaker 6: along with everybody but they like, I kind of had
Speaker 6: to create my own friend group because at the time,
Speaker 6: seventeen and thirteen is your I mean, you might as
Speaker 6: well be two different species.
Speaker 5: It's crazy.
Speaker 6: So you know, the idea that I'd be hanging out
Speaker 6: with Writer or Danielle at the time was pretty strange.
Speaker 6: Writer and I didn't really start hanging out until later
Speaker 6: in the show, and Danielle and I started hanging out
Speaker 6: on like Tuesday, So yeah, very different.
Speaker 2: Andrew, I want to thank you so much for coming
Speaker 2: here and spending your time with us on your birthday.
Speaker 5: Yeah, happy birthday, and thank.
Speaker 2: You for going on this trip down memory lane and
Speaker 2: for being vulnerable and opening up with us about full
Speaker 2: circle and all of that. I just always such a
Speaker 2: pleasure to see you again, and we hope you'll join
Speaker 2: us again.
Speaker 7: Yes, just to button it with, we're all so very
Speaker 7: fortunate you know, in this in this life and having children.
Speaker 7: I think I really just want to thank you guys
Speaker 7: for doing this and allowing us to kind of go
Speaker 7: down memory lane and join these memories together again.
Speaker 3: And hopefully we'll see you guys soon.
Speaker 8: Yes, definitely thank you to see you.
Speaker 3: Thank you all right.
Speaker 5: By Guy.
Speaker 2: Oh Man so much fun getting to reminisce with people
Speaker 2: and so cool. Thank you for listening to this episode
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Speaker 3: We love you all, pod dismissed.
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