1 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: Something that has come up because we were talking about 2 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: the potential O. J. Simpson Jersey in the background of 3 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: the Chubbies. Danielle, do you remember getting me the Chubbies 4 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: prop for my own apartment? What you don't remember doing 5 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: this for me? What's greatest thing? Okay, So when I 6 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: moved into my own apartment, I kind of like I 7 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: had like a because I was downtown, and I had 8 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: like a brick wall, and I was like really into 9 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: trains and like. 10 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 2: So anywhere there was like trains, and yeah, exactly. 11 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: So in Chubbies above it was high up so you 12 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: barely ever see it. It's above the stairway. 13 00:00:58,760 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 3: I believe. 14 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: There was this cool railroad crossing sign. It had like 15 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: a railroad crossing and a train and like a couple 16 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: of different railroads. 17 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 4: I don't know. 18 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: It was like an amalgamation of like Americana, and it 19 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: was like this weird like poster thing. And I remember 20 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: looking up at it and being like I love that, 21 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: and you were there and you were like huh, and 22 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: I was like, I really wish I could get that 23 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 1: in my apartment. And then like months later, I guess 24 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: it was for my birthday or for Christmas. 25 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 3: You got it for me, and. 26 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: I found out later that you had gone to the 27 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: art department, and the art department had been like how 28 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: do you and you would like had to do favors 29 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: for different people in the art You had to like 30 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: do you do you remember this? 31 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? 32 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: I don't remember what you I just remember you had 33 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: to like I remember different people in the art department 34 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: being like, oh yeah, Danielle, you know, and you like 35 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: finagled your way to get me this thing. 36 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 5: And I still have that. 37 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 6: I don't think Danielle learned my name until season six, 38 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 6: and she's doing all this stuff for you. 39 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 5: It's amazing. 40 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 2: You never invited me to do anything with you. 41 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 5: Will would have been creepy. 42 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, I do remember that now. 43 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 3: I remember. 44 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 2: I've always been the type of person that when somebody 45 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 2: says like, man, I like that or I love that, 46 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 2: I clock it, like, hmm, good to know. 47 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 5: You're a gift giver. You're a big giv But. 48 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: This was like yeah, and had to get I feel 49 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: like you had to get like a case of diet 50 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: coke or something. It was like it was like some 51 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: kind of special drink that somebody in the set department, 52 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: like the art department needed you got that for them, 53 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: and then they went and got this sign printed for me, 54 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 1: like another one of these signs. 55 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm still in my parents as. 56 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: Far as I know, because it was in my apartment 57 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: for years and then when I moved, my parents packed 58 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 1: up that apartment when I was in New York and like, 59 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: so I think it's still at my parents' house. 60 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 2: Cool if you find it, we have to post a 61 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 2: picture of it. But also now it's another thing for 62 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 2: us to start paying attention. 63 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 5: To in the chuck in the background. 64 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 2: Love how much our little like props and setuck have 65 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 2: played into our memories. Like writer, when you saw the 66 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 2: pinball machine and you were like, man, that just brings 67 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 2: back so many memories. 68 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm still in the search for the lobster. I 69 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 5: haven't seen the lobster yet. 70 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 2: I know it hasn't started yet. 71 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 5: I don't think it started yet. And I'm still she. 72 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 2: Only did it in like I thought. Maybe she only 73 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 2: thinks her. 74 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 3: Seven Maybe, Yeah, it's really a college years. 75 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 5: That's when I will have to keep it keeping him 76 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:22,519 Speaker 5: open though. 77 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 1: Because when when did ded he move into being second 78 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: ad Because she was she was a phone page until 79 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: about fourth or fifth season. 80 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 2: It was college years, yeah, because that's what I remember 81 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 2: her coming to get us from our dressing rooms and stuff, 82 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 2: right right, we were a little older. So yeah, I 83 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 2: can't wait to find those two. Welcome to Pod Meets World. 84 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 2: I'm Daniel Fishl, I'm Rider Strong. 85 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 5: And I'm Wilford Dell. 86 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 6: Hello, Connecticut, Pod Meets World Live is coming to you 87 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 6: my hometown. Now, my two co hosts have had their 88 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 6: fun with their little jokes and insults, but now it's 89 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 6: time for every single one of you to put down 90 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 6: your butter churns and drive your carriages. 91 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 5: I kid my fellow nutmakers. 92 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 6: Down to the Bushnell Theater in Hartford on March seventeenth, 93 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 6: right near where I was born. It is going to 94 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 6: be a very special night for a very awesome state. Now, 95 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 6: more behind the scenes stories, interactive games, questions and answers. 96 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 6: Those are certainly on the agenda. But I also have 97 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 6: to imagine that our costume contest there, where he can 98 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 6: dresses anything from Boy or Pod Meets World cough cough, 99 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 6: grappling hook is going to go off. The winner gets 100 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 6: a legit nineties Boy meets World script signed by all 101 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 6: of us from my personal collection because as you know, 102 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 6: I don't throw anything away. And tickets are available now Hartford, Connecticut, 103 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 6: the Bushnell Theater on March seventeenth. I can't believe I 104 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 6: finally get to say that. Go to Podmeets Worldshow dot 105 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 6: com right now to join us. Oh, I can't wait 106 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 6: to see you there. 107 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 2: This week's guest is someone very near and dear to 108 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 2: my heart. I have more pictures with him than I 109 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 2: do most of my family. It would have been difficult 110 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 2: to find a weekend in my mid teenage years that 111 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 2: I wasn't hanging out with Andrew Keegan, swimming in our pool, 112 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 2: going to the beach, driving around in a car he 113 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 2: built with his own hands. 114 00:04:58,320 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 3: I or no idea. 115 00:04:59,400 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: This is so f. 116 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: Always Andrew was like a round, But I didn't realize 117 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: it was because the two of you, we were so 118 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: close good friends. 119 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, I thought it was from Angel and VICKI is 120 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 6: why he was round all the time, because of Danielle. 121 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, or just casually sharing an ice cream Sunday with 122 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 2: one spoon while my mom nearby clicked away on a 123 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 2: camera that we'd eventually have to drop off at a 124 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 2: thrifties to develop. He may have just been my best 125 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 2: friend when we were hanging out. But to the rest 126 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 2: of the world, he was one of the upper tier 127 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 2: teen beat heart throbs, first spotted with a standout role 128 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 2: in the nineteen ninety four movie Camp Nowhere. He'd turn 129 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 2: that into becoming a staple on the decade's best family 130 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 2: TV shows, starring in the often mentioned Neighbors to Boy 131 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 2: Meets World, thunder Alley, and appearing on Full House, Step 132 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 2: by Step, Sabrina, The Teenage Witch, and Yes, an episode 133 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 2: of Boy Meets World. He would later have memorable turns 134 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 2: on Seventh Heaven and Moesha, but it was his role 135 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 2: in Ten Things I Hate About You that cemented him 136 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 2: into the Dreamboat Hall of Fame. Today we will talk 137 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 2: about all of these things and more, but it will 138 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 2: all be grounded in that one time. He was incredibly 139 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 2: under used as Ronnie Lips Waterman in the third season 140 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 2: Disney World episode of Boy Meets World, The Happiest Show 141 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 2: on Earth. So get your camera ready, mom. Welcome to 142 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 2: Pod Meets World. It's Andrew Keegan. 143 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 3: How's it going, guys? 144 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: You look the same dude. 145 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, I am. I was in hysterics when 146 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 7: I heard you. Guys had that one video that you 147 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 7: talked about. I was like, oh my gosh, lost, I 148 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 7: lost it? 149 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 2: Was it when Will Will said installed out like Andrew Keagan, Yeah. 150 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 3: That was it's always it's always Will. 151 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 5: Wait when I said what if, I said there was. 152 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: We were talking about his car and we had talked 153 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 2: about about that. Will made a joke. It's so funny. 154 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 3: I got me. 155 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, I got And by the way, I just literally 156 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 7: just listened to Larissa's because of course I'm. 157 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 3: A procrastinator, right It was great. Literally just listened. It 158 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 3: was like nine thirty. I'm like, I should probably listen 159 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 3: to one of these right now. 160 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 7: So I listened to it and it was literally great 161 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 7: because of course it led me like brought up all 162 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 7: of these and to hear it from her perspective, it's fantastics. 163 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 3: Well, thank you guys for having me. I appreciate it. 164 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for being here. We will start 165 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 2: our conversation with you the way we like to start 166 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 2: all of our episodes with child or former child actors. 167 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 2: Tell us about your your entry into Hollywood and how 168 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 2: did you find yourself becoming a child actor? 169 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 3: Wait, are we already doing this? Is it already happening? 170 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 2: It's going Yeah, Hi, I just. 171 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 3: I was talking. I was just talking to some friends, 172 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 3: and I realized. 173 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 2: Like, oh yeah, that's all it's going to feel like 174 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 2: for the whole for the whole hour. 175 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 3: So I started pretty young. 176 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 7: I think I got my SAG card an eighty five 177 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 7: or four, So I was you were. I was in 178 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 7: a commercial and I was actually the replacement kid because 179 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 7: of course, like I said, I just listened to the 180 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 7: podcast and of course what we all went through at 181 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 7: such a young age, and. 182 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 3: You know, this was something that's barely even a memory, 183 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 3: but I was. 184 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 7: I remember a little bit of stress of like, okay, 185 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 7: I'm the extra kid, and it only brought me in 186 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 7: for a few minutes, so I really thought it wasn't 187 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 7: going to be me, and the commercial was supposed to 188 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 7: be the other kid. 189 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 3: So I ended up doing that when I was Yeah, 190 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 3: I think I was about four or five. 191 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 7: You know, I think at eleven, maybe I did a 192 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 7: empty nest and I was. 193 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 3: The yeah empty yeah, who gave a gun to another kid? 194 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 7: That was in like the early nineties, right, like you 195 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 7: don't do that anymore. 196 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 2: Wow, that's so interesting. You mentioned that because we were 197 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 2: talking recently in a recap about how sitcoms used to 198 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 2: be for all different ages, and so sitcoms would would 199 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 2: have like very special episodes and you were apparently the 200 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 2: star of one where you gave a kid a gun 201 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 2: to another kid, And now you don't see those because 202 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 2: TV is so segmented. Like you know, if you want 203 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 2: to watch a drama, you go watch a drama. If 204 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 2: you want to watch a comedy, you watch a comedy. 205 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, I actually was watching my daughter was introduced to 206 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 7: a Brandy song The Boy is Mine. She's seven incredible, 207 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 7: you know, Okay, she likes the song. Not so sure 208 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 7: about the lyrics for you right now, but enjoy. So 209 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 7: I ended up showing an episode of Moesha that I 210 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 7: did with Brandy, and we went a head on in 211 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 7: that one with you know, a white guy dating a 212 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 7: you know, black girl, and so like dealing with a 213 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 7: racist or not a racial, a racial like dynamic and 214 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 7: it got heated and it was a fight, and it's 215 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 7: like all this stuff again, you wouldn't see that. 216 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 3: Ease an episode of anything right now, you know, very intense. 217 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 3: But so anyway, SO did that kind of stuff. 218 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 7: Twelve, I did a Kellogg's Frosted Miniwe's commercial I feel 219 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 7: like I'm looking at my IMDb right now, that a 220 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 7: bunch of other stuff. 221 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 3: We don't talk about. 222 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 7: Fifteen was the first movie you guys were talking about 223 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 7: Alison Mack in your in your episode Alison. 224 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 2: Mack oh the person. 225 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 3: Ok, you get these two mixed up? 226 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 5: I know this, we all do, do you know? 227 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right. 228 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 3: Well, I don't get I don't. 229 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 7: I see the point. I see that they're easy to 230 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 7: mix up. But yeah, so she was about eleven. 231 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 3: I don't know if it was. 232 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, she'd been working by then, of course, But so 233 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 7: I knew her at eleven in Camp Nowhere. 234 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 8: Right, which a lot of big thing, Hilen you told 235 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 8: me then, yes, yeah, yes, she was in the same 236 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 8: episode that we were in and Disneyworld. 237 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, small World. So Hillary was in that. So 238 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:13,359 Speaker 3: so yeah, so that was at fifteen. 239 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 7: Fifteen sixteen, And of course, as I mentioned, you know, 240 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 7: I went obviously on your show, I did. 241 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: Thunder Alley was before that, right, thunder Ally was like. 242 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 3: You know what, that's a good question. It would have 243 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 3: been right like right in the. 244 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 2: Same nowhere is nineteen ninety four. Okay, so thunder Ally than. 245 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 3: Before ninety three. 246 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: It was the first season of Boy. 247 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 6: No, first season of Boy. Right next to us was 248 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 6: Home Improvement. Yes, I think thunder Ally came second season. 249 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 2: I thought second season. Yeah, yeah, so right around there. 250 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 5: You were you in a California kid? 251 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 3: Were you? 252 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 5: Were you born and raised in California? 253 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 3: Yes? So I grew up in the valley. 254 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 7: Actually, obviously, Danielle and I've known each other since bay 255 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 7: Watch or before. 256 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 2: It was a bay Watch audition. So Andrew and I 257 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 2: met in probably ninety one, wow, and we were at 258 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 2: an audition for Baywatch. Andrew booked the part that he 259 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 2: was auditioning for. I was auditioning to play a young 260 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 2: girl with cancer who was dying. And it's pretty remarkable 261 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 2: that I didn't have the chops to pull it off 262 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 2: because we all know, so we are? You know how 263 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 2: good I was? 264 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 6: You are you dying on the Do you also need 265 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 6: to be seen from the center team? 266 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 2: Do you remember the episode? 267 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 3: Andrew? I literally would have to watch it. I have again. 268 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 3: I think I was like the kid giving the other 269 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 3: kid alcohol. 270 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: So you're always influence man, bad influence kid. 271 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, until until Seventh Heaven, where I was a good 272 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 7: guy with. 273 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 3: A child from a sixteen you know at sixteen seventeen. 274 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 7: So I don't know young dad and that was that 275 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 7: was a nice role opposite Jessica Biel. 276 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 2: Well, we're going to get into that. 277 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:57,719 Speaker 3: We're going to get into that. 278 00:11:58,040 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 5: We'll get into that. We'll get into that. 279 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 2: We got to slow down, Andrew. 280 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 3: I'm excited. 281 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 5: It's so excited. 282 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 4: Hi, I'm Kate Hudson and I'm Oliver Hudson. And last 283 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 4: I checked for siblings and this is sibling revelry. We're 284 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 4: full blood siblings, the only. 285 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 9: Full blood and our family. 286 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 4: Well not in the world, I mean in the whole world. 287 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 4: This is it, Like no one anyway. We're back with 288 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 4: season four. I can't believe it. 289 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 9: I'm so excited, bigger and better than ever. You might 290 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 9: be asking yourself, what is sibling revelry? 291 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, well we just made it up. There is no 292 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 4: sibling revelry. It's reveling in your sibling. 293 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 9: And it's fun because we've decided to open it up, 294 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 9: you know, to really like all kinds of different siblings 295 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 9: and it's going to be an awesome season. 296 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 4: So listen to Sibling Revelry on the iHeartRadio app, apple 297 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 4: Pie casts or wherever you listen to God. 298 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 2: So I wanted to talk camp nowhere beloved movie. People 299 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 2: still talk about it. Also, Jessica Alba's first job. 300 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 4: Really, yes, so what was that. 301 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 2: Experience, Like, what do you remember from filming it? 302 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 7: So they thought it was a good idea to cast 303 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 7: a boy and a girl and they were the kissing 304 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 7: couple and they were supposed to kiss over the six 305 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 7: or eight weeks we saw the film. 306 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 3: Needless to say, they did not. 307 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 7: Like each other after a few kisses. So Jessica came 308 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 7: in as a replacement to be the kissing girl and 309 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 7: the other kissing girl. And then it ended up being 310 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 7: if you watch the movie, it's like there's a mud 311 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 7: scene and they're like wet and mud and the kissing. 312 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 5: But it didn't it didn't. 313 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 7: It wasn't a storyline that really made it through from 314 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 7: in the way that it was in the script. 315 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 3: So that's how Jessica was. And then we became really close. 316 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 3: At the time, she was really you know, we. 317 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 7: Were all young, I think between thirteen fourteen fifteen years old, 318 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 7: so I remember I think we had her either thirteenth 319 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 7: or fourteenth birthday at my house and like our families 320 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 7: got along and we did a bunch of fun things together. 321 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 3: So yeah, we so that was yeah, that was camp. 322 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 7: Nowhere she was in it. Let's see, that was really 323 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 7: wild at Christopher Lloyd of course, Jonathan Jackson, Jackson, Yeah, 324 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 7: all these names like having to pull them out, but yeah, 325 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 7: John and Jackson was great. 326 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 3: It was a great experience. I mean, getting out of school. 327 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 3: We were working up. 328 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 7: At the Disney Ranch, which is where they shot Dukes 329 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 7: of Hazzard, which was cool and it's pretty cool. 330 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 2: So you joined thunder Ally in season two, and we've 331 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 2: talked about it quite a few times on Podmeats World, 332 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 2: since you guys were then, you know, filming next door 333 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 2: to us. And by the time you got on that, 334 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 2: you and I had already known each other now for 335 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 2: a few years. So we met at that audition for 336 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 2: Baywatch in like ninety one, and then in the way 337 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 2: you do as a young actor, you bump into each 338 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 2: other at multiple auditions, and then by the time you 339 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 2: were on thunder Alley, it was like, oh, my gosh, 340 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 2: my friend Andrew is here now. But that's really where 341 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 2: we solidified our friendship and basically became BFFs forever. But 342 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 2: do you remember your audition for thunder Ally and finding 343 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 2: out that you were going to be on primetime TV. 344 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 7: You know, you guys have spoken about this, and again 345 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 7: I was always very impressed. You guys always felt super 346 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 7: comfortable and you were in your flow coming onto a 347 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 7: show with Ed Asner, a six year old Haley Joel Osmon, 348 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 7: two other ten eleven year olds and being about that 349 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 7: age where you're just recognizing like this is a big deal. 350 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 3: This is a lot of pressure, and I was pretty 351 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 3: nervous and pretty I would say, it's just it's the 352 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 3: great unknown. I'm going to go in front. 353 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 7: I mean, I had done it, but it's like to 354 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 7: go in front of the three cameras, in front of 355 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 7: an audience, and there was just a lot of pressure. 356 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 3: As far as the audition, I remember not thinking that 357 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 3: it went that well, but that they seem to really 358 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 3: like it. 359 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 7: So I was like, well, I guess that worked. Found 360 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 7: out about it, and again there was like this mixture. 361 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 7: I don't know if you guys have felt this where 362 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 7: it's like, oh, yeah, it's like kind of when you're 363 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 7: like the dog chasing the car and it catches what 364 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 7: as I was saying, It's like all of a sudden, 365 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 7: it's like, wait, I got the bum I got to 366 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 7: do this. 367 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 3: Now, I'm used to auditioning. 368 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 7: I've done a few little things, but this is like 369 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 7: Ed Asner, Mary Tyler Moore show. And so I would 370 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 7: say that was probably one of the hardest experiences. There 371 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 7: was just so much pressure with the with the audience 372 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 7: and working with Ed. 373 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 3: Who's you know at the time, it must have been 374 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 3: in his sixties, and I mean he was nice, but 375 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 3: he was a professional. 376 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 7: And you know, he's looking at all these kids, probably thinking, 377 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 7: how did I end up here with four kids I'm 378 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 7: working with? 379 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 3: Remember you're Lynes? Okay? 380 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, we had we had the Bill Daniels on our set, 381 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 2: who also probably was looking around like how did I 382 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 2: end up here? I'm I'm such a pro and I'm 383 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 2: so good at what I do, and yet here I 384 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 2: am with all these ldren who think this is all 385 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 2: so fun. 386 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And now we understand that more, we're like, oh, 387 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 3: that's a real job. 388 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 7: So, but Ed was great. And then did you guys 389 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 7: ever have Robbie Benson as a director? 390 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: No? 391 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 3: On your show? 392 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 7: So Robbie was a child childhood actor, and I think 393 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 7: he pretty much directed all of them. And he was 394 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 7: also just a militant director, and I will never forget one. Like, 395 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 7: first of all, we all cried right at different times. 396 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 7: But I'm the sixteen year old. 397 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 3: And I'm like, try to keep it together. There's a 398 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 3: ten year old and eight year old and then a 399 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 3: six year old. Haley was literally six, and it was 400 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 3: it was incredible. 401 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 7: I have a seven year old now almost eight, and 402 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 7: I'm just thinking how he was able to literally and 403 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 7: he had a lot of he had a lot of 404 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 7: lines like he was, you know, a significant part of 405 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 7: the show. So I was always very impressed with him. 406 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 7: And I was like, if he's six and he can 407 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 7: do it, I can do this. 408 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 3: Just memorize your lines now. 409 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 7: I know we were in a stage next to Home Improvement. 410 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 7: Were you guys in that stage before us, because I 411 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 7: know I remember you guys were in a different lot. 412 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 2: We spent the first two years at Disney, so ninety three, 413 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 2: ninety four and then ninety four and ninety five we 414 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 2: were on the Disney. We were on stage two. 415 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 6: Page two, okay, okay, and then I think what Home 416 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 6: Improvement was stage one? 417 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 5: Right, you guys were right there. I remember, yeah, you 418 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 5: were literally if I. 419 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,719 Speaker 1: Remember correctly, When Boy meets World Thunder Ally Home Improvement. 420 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, we were all there for at least one I think. 421 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,719 Speaker 1: It was all the way down and we had that 422 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 1: one trailer with the Pa pong table and then intend 423 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: video Angel. 424 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 6: Vicki Angel and Vicki would bring us there and play 425 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 6: basketball and do all this kind of stuff. 426 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 7: I have a quick basketball story. So we were playing basketball. 427 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 7: I don't know if any of you guys are there. 428 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 7: These things, by the way, are great to hear. I 429 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 7: have little blippets of memory. But one one day we 430 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 7: were playing and Jonathan he was like right here, and 431 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 7: he went up to play back, you know, basketball backed 432 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 7: up and he hit my tooth and I was like 433 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 7: it started to turn blacks. Ended up getting it fixed 434 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 7: with temporarily. And yeah, so I not on my front 435 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 7: tooth and tooth. 436 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor Thomas killed one of your teeth. 437 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: To beat drama, I mean, get him back, get him 438 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 1: on here. 439 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 6: We want Jonathan Taylor Thomas the whole tooth. 440 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 5: That's what I'm. 441 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 2: Putting this all down for Danielle's diary. 442 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 5: I love the whole tooth and nothing, the whole tooth 443 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 5: and nothing but the tooth. No further questions. So I 444 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 5: have a question for you, Andrew you. 445 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 6: You mentioned that you celebrated somebody's thirteenth birthday on the 446 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 6: set Where's the strangest place You've ever celebrated your birthday? 447 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 2: On a podcast Heavy Birthday. 448 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 7: I noticed behind Danielle like the date, and I was like, 449 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 7: I wonder if she remembers. 450 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 3: I do well done, well done, well done. 451 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 2: So let's spend a little bit of time. Well, first 452 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,199 Speaker 2: of all, what are you doing after this to celebrate 453 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 2: your birthday? 454 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 7: I have I'm gonna pick up my daughter and actually 455 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 7: we're doing a little dinner just around the corner at 456 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 7: a nice Italian restaurant. Just kind of threw it up 457 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 7: some friends. If you guys want to join, come on 458 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 7: over to the West Side. We're just going to hang 459 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 7: out and have dinner. 460 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 5: There's a West Side. 461 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 2: So I want to I want to have a little 462 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 2: bit of fun talking about our friendship because I have 463 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 2: I have so many amazing stories with you. But I 464 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:27,360 Speaker 2: I some like like you, my memory is not incredible. 465 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 2: You remember you say that I have a good memory, 466 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 2: But it's because you remember how good I was at 467 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 2: remembering lines. I can memorize that, Like, my memory's great 468 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 2: with that act, memories of my actual life are a 469 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,959 Speaker 2: little harder for me to remember for some reason. So 470 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 2: I actually the reason I said we met at the 471 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 2: bay Watch audition is because I asked my mom. I 472 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 2: didn't even remember that we had met at that Baywatch audition. 473 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 2: What do you remember about our friendship and how much 474 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 2: time you spent at our house and how much time 475 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 2: you spent with our family? You taught you tried to 476 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,199 Speaker 2: teach me how to drive stick shift? Do you remember that? 477 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 2: Do you remember me stalling out your car over and 478 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 2: over again? 479 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 4: I can feel it. 480 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 6: I can feel the gears grinding, I get just oh, 481 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 6: I can feel it happening. 482 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, can you imagine now? What were you? Fifteen? 483 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 3: Dick shift? Did we wait a second? Didn't we run 484 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 3: from the cops one time? And night? We did? 485 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 2: We did? 486 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 3: We did? 487 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 2: We did? 488 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 3: We did? 489 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 5: Wait? Did you're burying the lead? 490 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 6: What what happened for the cops? 491 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 3: The story? 492 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 5: We did it? 493 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 2: Okay, go tell the story. Tell the story. I hope 494 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 2: my children never listened to this podcast. 495 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 3: This wasn't this wasn't the one I was even thinking of. 496 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 3: And there's another story. So we went. 497 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 7: I'm teaching her how to drive in the shadow Hills area, 498 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 7: which was horse country in the deeper valley than probably 499 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 7: where you guys are. 500 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 3: So we're driving up and down in the hills and around. 501 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 7: And we're going down and I mean, I'm sixteen, so 502 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 7: I have no business having, you know, anybody in the 503 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 7: car at the time with the permit. 504 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 3: Apparently maybe I was fifteen. I'm not even sure. 505 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 7: We go down this hill around the Weimer's house and 506 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 7: we go down and there's a and we're in the 507 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 7: middle of nowhere. I mean, you know, there's a cop 508 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 7: every three months. 509 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 3: And this cop goes by and I'm fortunately driving at 510 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 3: the time, and I know the neighborhood. I'm like, and 511 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 3: he looked at us, you know that look when you're 512 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 3: driving by. He's like, I know that book. 513 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 2: Because you are about two and a half years older 514 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 2: than me. So if you were sixteen, I was like 515 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 2: thirteen and a half. 516 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 3: Well maybe for me, I was like seventeen eighteen. All 517 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 3: I know is we just didn't want to get pulled 518 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 3: over correct. 519 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 7: So we went down the hill and I just it 520 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 7: was it was like he had to turn around, and 521 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 7: I knew a few turns, and I just went home, 522 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 7: put the car in the garage and I was like, 523 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 7: we're good. 524 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 5: It's playing video games. 525 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 3: So yeah, we did. We did that. 526 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 7: But then another driving story, and this is the one 527 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 7: that I'll never forget, is going to your mom saying 528 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 7: go ahead, Andrew, you know how to drive. You can 529 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 7: take Danielle to Disneyland. So we got in her Accura 530 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 7: I don't remember to make but it was a nice 531 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 7: you know, big mom car. 532 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 2: He drive car. 533 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 7: I drove your mom is accurate from Calabasas, which. 534 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 3: I still don't know that this was a good idea, 535 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 3: but it got worse. So we get to Disneyland, which 536 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 3: I already felt like I'm winning. I've got Danielle, I'm driving, 537 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 3: and I'm at disney Land. What's better than this. We 538 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,719 Speaker 3: walk into Disneyland and it was just like this, all right, 539 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 3: we're here. 540 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 6: Cool. 541 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 7: There's the magical you know, what's it called magic Magic 542 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 7: Magic Castle. 543 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 3: We got Magic Kingdom. So we go through and all 544 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 3: of a sudden, you know, a little little chime over here, 545 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 3: a little bit. 546 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 7: Next thing, you know, we're just like enveloped with people 547 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 7: and we get a picture, go get river and I'm 548 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 7: just looking at her. 549 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 3: It's like it's the bank. It's whatever they called me 550 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 3: back then, and I was like, we gotta think, we 551 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 3: gotta go. So I think we got a halfway up 552 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,239 Speaker 3: the street to the Magic Kingdom and we're just like, 553 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 3: let's let's let's get out of here. It's getting scary, 554 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 3: just me and you, and we literally ran out and 555 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 3: drove him. 556 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 6: That was the last time I was a Disney Literally, 557 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 6: that was the last time you're at Disneyland. 558 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 5: Really, as he has an. 559 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,239 Speaker 2: Eight year old and uh, and he still hasn't been 560 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 2: back to Disneyland. 561 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 7: So I'm holding that story for as a block for 562 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 7: me to go to Disneyland. So I decide I'm gonna 563 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 7: go to Disney World. They haven't done it since we 564 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 7: all were there. My daughter is six at the time. 565 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 7: I have some cousins in Florida. So we go book 566 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 7: at the Wilderness and I pay for the trip, and 567 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 7: I'm like, you guys, let's let's bring the kids. 568 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:25,719 Speaker 3: We're gonna go to disney World. 569 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,719 Speaker 7: So we do one day at Magic Kingdom, one day 570 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 7: at Animal Kingdom, third day at the Hollywood and I 571 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 7: was going for I'm like, we're doing We're just gonna 572 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 7: do them all. 573 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 3: The third day we get home and I'm like, oh 574 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 3: that burger, Oh no, that's so good. But I'll be fine. 575 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 3: I'll be fine. That night Wicked six some kind of bug. 576 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 7: I'm up all I literally called the paramedics and like, 577 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:49,360 Speaker 7: new Fee shows. 578 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 5: Up, you're seriously dehydrated. 579 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 7: But I literally called, you know, like you're good, and 580 00:24:58,280 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 7: I'm like, no, I'm not. I just hit my head 581 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 7: grown up so much. 582 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 3: Everything's coming out. It was horrible. 583 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 7: So I took the next plane and went home. So 584 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 7: those are my two Disney stories. 585 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 6: I don't know, I'm sorry, but I just see the 586 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 6: entire Disney like, you know, Mickey around. Oh he's coding, 587 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 6: all right, everybody clear, Like I just this this whole 588 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 6: kind of everybody rushing in. 589 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 5: I don't know why it's so funny to me, but god, 590 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 5: it is. 591 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 3: So we gotta try. 592 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 6: Maybe not maybe as an adult, we'll try disney Land. 593 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 6: We'll all go together. Maybe we'll get a guide. We'll like, 594 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 6: we'll do it, right. 595 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 3: I need some support guys to go. Yeah, that would 596 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 3: be right. That would be the way I would do it. 597 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 5: That's how we shoot. They'll bring their kids, it'll be 598 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 5: fun kids. Shuldee that wait, who's got kids? 599 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 3: I know Danielle. Does you guys have kids as well? 600 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 5: I have a stepdaughter thirty four. 601 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 2: It's a little different, it's slightly different. 602 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 3: Definitely definitely not a kid, my guess. 603 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 6: Or two I'll be I'll be a grandfather. So yeah, no, 604 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:57,719 Speaker 6: it's very different on my end. 605 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,959 Speaker 2: Yes, writer's got a nine year old son who we 606 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 2: would so yeah, we'll do. We'll do a proper Disney 607 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 2: trip with a guide right in an Indy and I'll 608 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 2: bring my kids, and Andrew, you could bring your daughter. 609 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 2: Just I want to know to the car that you 610 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 2: let me drive, the red one. You built that car yourself, 611 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 2: right that car? Do you still have it? I need 612 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 2: to know. I need to remember all the details of 613 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 2: the car because I know that car was like your baby. 614 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 2: Tell everyone what it was. 615 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 7: My dad was in the Vietnam War, so he brought 616 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 7: it over from Okinawa, so he bought it, knew there, 617 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 7: had it shipped, and it was. 618 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 3: Sitting in the garage. 619 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 7: You know, this would have been probably fifteen or twenty 620 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 7: years later, so it was sitting in the garage and 621 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 7: I always just had like an affinity to it. It's 622 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 7: you know, it's a part of your life. And when 623 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 7: I think I was thirteen fourteen. I actually did camp 624 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 7: nowhere and the character was into fixing cars. And I'm 625 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 7: not sure which came first, but life inmitating our imitating life, 626 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 7: like whatever they say about that. So I was like, 627 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 7: I'm going to fix up this car. So I started to, 628 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 7: you know, break down the doors, and yeah, it did 629 00:26:59,480 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 7: put the car. 630 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 3: I mean there's a lot of. 631 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 7: Parts that you don't do, like painting, and sure there's 632 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 7: certainly mechanical things. 633 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 3: But of car. 634 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 7: Was it a seventy one mgb Oh great car, little car, 635 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 7: a little creak car, the spokes on the wheels and 636 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 7: like a little starter project. 637 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 3: So yeah, that was the safest car. It definitely would 638 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 3: not be in a category safe at all. 639 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 6: No perfect Californi car, though, Oh man, what a California car. 640 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 3: Perfect car to teach Danielle how to drive. 641 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 5: Grinding the gears on a classic. Oh it just got 642 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 5: so much worse. The story just got so much worse. 643 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 3: I answer, yeah, to answer your question, I did end 644 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 3: up getting riden. 645 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 7: It was just a time where it was like cars 646 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 7: are just too much, So I got rid of all 647 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 7: the cars. 648 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would also like to share that Andrew and 649 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 2: I decided when we were very young that we would 650 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 2: be the only two people who are allowed to call 651 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 2: each other Andy and Danny, and I have held true 652 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,959 Speaker 2: to that. No one is allowed to call me Danny's 653 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 2: for Andrew. Have you ever let anybody call you Andy? 654 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 3: If it wasn't two days ago, I just told somebody 655 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 3: I hate that name, and I don't let anybody call 656 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 3: me that. But you can't. 657 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 2: Exactly say, that's just one of those little things. Okay, 658 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 2: now I have. 659 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 3: Hey, I just were talking about it. 660 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 7: We were like the cutest little friend cut in and 661 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 7: you guys were teasing me earlier. Of course, who didn't 662 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 7: have a crush on Daniel, But we established a very 663 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 7: good friend dynamic and just wrote it out and it's 664 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 7: just a few years later. 665 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 2: It was so it was just such a fun friendship. 666 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 2: And I have so many pictures of us together, and 667 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 2: one of my favorites is writers in his fedora. At 668 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 2: my fifteenth birthday party, and Andrew was there and he 669 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 2: Andrew bought me. He was like one of the first 670 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 2: people to buy me jewelry. So I have like a 671 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 2: ring with on a necklace that I'm wearing that Andrew 672 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 2: gave me. He bought me a bracelet and an anklet. 673 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 2: We have this picture of him putting the anklet on me. 674 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 2: Oh geez, and yeah, we. 675 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 3: Just none of it. None of it worked, well, none 676 00:28:58,920 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 3: of it. 677 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: Daniel's mom is in the background. 678 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 5: You please make this work. 679 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 2: My mom would have been thrilled. She loved and she 680 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 2: still does love Andrews. 681 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 5: I'm glad the affinity for jewelry went away. 682 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. 683 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 5: We're walking Dan Yell and I. 684 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 6: Are walking down the street of Austin, out of nowhere, 685 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 6: about to have a live show. We passed, we passed 686 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 6: the jewelry place and she just looks me goes, do 687 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 6: you want to buy me some jewelry? 688 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 2: Joy? 689 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 3: Sorry? He was like what. No. 690 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 5: She's like, all right, you can if you want. Friends 691 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 5: do that for each other. 692 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 6: And there will be no pictures of. 693 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 5: Me putting in I'll let you call me Danny. 694 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 4: That's all. 695 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 5: It takes a little sparkle. 696 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 3: Okay. 697 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 2: So I have a very funny story. But I just 698 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 2: have to tell the story because it'll give you an 699 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 2: idea one really into the mindset of young Danielle and 700 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 2: into an idea of our friendship. So, and I don't 701 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 2: even know if Andy knows this, but I was on 702 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 2: the phone with him when I got my period for 703 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 2: the very first time. I was like, I need to 704 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 2: call you back, and he was like okay, and we 705 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 2: hang up the phone and I run out of my 706 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 2: room and I announced at the top of the stairs 707 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 2: as loud as could be, Mom, I got my period. 708 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,959 Speaker 2: I was so excited. I was thrilled. And my mom 709 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 2: comes out and she goes, she goes, why are you 710 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 2: so excited? And I was like, I am so excited. 711 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,719 Speaker 2: She's like I think I cried when she's like so 712 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 2: healthy that, oh my gosh. Well, because you know, all 713 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 2: I wanted in the world was to be an adult. 714 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 2: I just wanted to be a grown up, and so 715 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 2: this was like, oh, well, you can't be a grown 716 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 2: up until this happens. 717 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 4: So I call my mom. 718 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 2: My mom comes in, We talked, you know, we do 719 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 2: all the things you need to do whatever, and then 720 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 2: I go, I gotta call Andrew back, and my mom goes, 721 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 2: hold on, do not tell Andrew. Andrew doesn't need to 722 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 2: know that. He doesn't really. 723 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 3: Boys really love to talk about or are ready to. 724 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 2: Like very sure call him back, but like, don't tell Andrew. 725 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 2: That's funny and now I don't really I don't remember 726 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 2: if I told him it. Probably it seems to be 727 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 2: that it's something I may have done that I would 728 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 2: have told Andrew. Did I tell you? 729 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 3: It sounds very familiar. 730 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 7: I remember we would have those conversations really close. That's 731 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 7: where you are, so you know, for those of you 732 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 7: and listening to this, there was only a hard line. 733 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 7: You know, this is before cell phones, so we'd be 734 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 7: on the phone with the cord and you know, going 735 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 7: to sleep. 736 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 3: And we talked for countless hours. 737 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 7: So I definitely remember, not sure you told me that night, 738 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 7: but that you telling it now? 739 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 3: Does I do know? You literally were like but you 740 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 3: even like said, I'm supposed to tell you, but. 741 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, my mom not to tell you, but just oh cool. 742 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 6: Yeah. 743 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 3: I still don't know what to say to this, right, 744 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 3: I'm still awkward, Like. 745 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 2: Still an awkward conversation. 746 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 6: We didn't know Rider and I didn't know how close 747 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 6: the two of you were. I mean, we knew that 748 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 6: you were friends, and we we you hung around on 749 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 6: the set of Boy Metroled a lot. 750 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 5: You were on the show. 751 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 6: We obviously knew you, but we thought it was all 752 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 6: through Angel and VICKI so we didn't realize. 753 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 5: We didn't know that that's what it was. We had 754 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 5: the same gym teacher, Like, that's what it was, you know. 755 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 3: So yeah, Angel and Jickie. 756 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 2: Podcast. 757 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 3: Yeah that's its own. Oh that's right, that was they 758 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 3: were the gym people, remember them. 759 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 6: All the stories that just went through Andrews and all 760 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 6: the stories and was the head. 761 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 3: So they got me to do this boxerati video. 762 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 7: Do you remember the exercise stuff they we did grindline. 763 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 5: Video, d boxing video videos left and right with you guys. 764 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 7: We we did a videos and stuff and I was 765 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 7: so unprepared because this boxing move and I'm not that coordinated. 766 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 7: I just remember how difficult it was to film it 767 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 7: and how disappointed they were that. 768 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 3: I didn't know the one too in the video. Oh please, 769 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 3: I hope it's I want to buy them all. 770 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 2: And we're going to find box Sarati. 771 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 6: I was just gonna say, how is box Sarati not 772 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 6: the greatest title for anything ever? 773 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? 774 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 5: Sarat But Andrew. 775 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: Didn't you go you went to Hawaii? My brother went 776 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: to Hawaii with you with was it with. 777 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 3: Angel and Vicki two or Angel? Yeah? 778 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: Because I know Shilah went surfing with you in Hawaii 779 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: at one point for like a trip, my. 780 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 3: First trip ever, and again just going for the full 781 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 3: story here, folks. 782 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 7: We're in a hotel in Waikiki, Angel, I think Rider, 783 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 7: and I think there was somebody else there I can't remember, and. 784 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 3: My brother's best friend Nate, Nate and Angel and you, yeah, 785 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 3: the surfing trip on a surf trip. 786 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 7: So and I think my friend who I'm still really 787 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 7: good friends with, I think he might have been there 788 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 7: as well in the r short so, but this was 789 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 7: my first experience with Maui Wowie. 790 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 6: Maui Wowe is old school's classic weed. It's like ty stick. Yeah. 791 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 7: And when I say Maui wow weeed, this was my 792 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 7: first time. And I swear I was lost in this hotel. 793 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 7: Everything was growing slow and I was like. 794 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 3: Wow, And I think it was your brother Shiloh. That 795 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 3: was like, yeah, a couple of hits and I was 796 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 3: like that sounds about that. 797 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,280 Speaker 5: Sounds and he came down. 798 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 7: My god. 799 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 2: I learned how to surf in Hawaii and then was 800 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 2: so excited to come home and tell Andrew that I 801 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 2: knew now how to surf. Andrew was like, that's amazing, Yes, 802 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 2: you can go surfing with me now, and I was 803 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,760 Speaker 2: like yeah. And so one morning, at like four thirty 804 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 2: in the morning, Andrew came and picked me up and 805 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 2: it was still dark and took me out to Malibu 806 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 2: and I went in there and I touched one little 807 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:02,879 Speaker 2: toe in the water and was like, what the hell 808 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 2: is this getting in this water? I think I went 809 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 2: out and tried to catch like one or two ways. 810 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 2: I didn't even it was dead. I was freezing and 811 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 2: I was like, I'll just wait for you on the beach. 812 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 2: I think that was the only time Andrew ever took me. 813 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 5: You know what helps with that? Ma wowie? Yeah, promise you. 814 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 2: So your name came up again recently when we were 815 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 2: talking with Writer specifically about the sale with the Stars 816 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 2: cruise that we had years ago, and your name came 817 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 2: up because we were talking about Rider and his discomfort 818 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 2: with the heart throb status. You were one of those 819 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 2: quintessential teen heart throbs? Did it ever like? And the 820 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 2: way name came up is because Writer was talking about 821 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 2: how well you handled it? 822 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, you were good at it. 823 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 2: You were so good at it. Did you enjoy being 824 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 2: a heart throb? Did it ever feel like too much 825 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 2: to you? What was the experience for you. 826 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 7: Like, I think it's an you know, it's an interesting word, 827 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 7: and of course it does sort of evoke like a 828 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 7: lot of different feelings. 829 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 3: I think I was open to just the experience at 830 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:24,760 Speaker 3: the time. 831 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 7: You know, at this time I look back and you know, 832 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 7: there's a little bit of cringe, like your you know, 833 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 7: heart throb is kind of this. 834 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,280 Speaker 3: It's also with this like past tense. 835 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 7: But even at the time, it's like, I don't know 836 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 7: what's going on right now. 837 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 3: This is crazy. 838 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 7: We're on a cruise and it was a very surreal 839 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 7: experience that all of us really you know, participated in 840 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 7: and that we were. 841 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 3: You know, fond over and given all this attention. 842 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 7: But I think, you know, I don't know that I 843 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 7: have a particular definition to it. I can't there's times 844 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 7: where I think I just went with it. I can't 845 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 7: say I was like one hundred percent comfortable. I think 846 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 7: there was a lot of times where, like I'm sure 847 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 7: you guys experienced this Disneyland, for example, going to malls, 848 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 7: going to airport, So there's a part of you that 849 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 7: you can perform and be there as you're expected to be, 850 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 7: But there's also times where you're just like I just 851 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 7: want to get through this airport right now, and it's like, 852 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 7: how's it going. Okay, nice, thank you to take a picture. 853 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 7: And I still and I've always been like okay with it. 854 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 3: You know. It's like, what an amazing gift that we. 855 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 7: All have to bring a little bit of joy or 856 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:27,879 Speaker 7: pleasure in a moment to someone. 857 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 3: And taking a picture. 858 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 7: So it's it's a harmless effort that we make to 859 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 7: make somebody day and. 860 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 3: It's fine and actually, quite frankly, it's like kind of nice. 861 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:36,840 Speaker 3: Some people walked up to me and my daughter on 862 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 3: aber Kenny the other day and the guy's like, yeah, 863 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 3: you're kind of talking to me. 864 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 7: It's like yeah, everybody says I look like Ben Fieldman, 865 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:43,399 Speaker 7: and all of a sudden, the two of them look 866 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 7: and she's like, no, honey, he's an actor. 867 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 3: And the boy looked at like at the same time 868 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 3: like he's Andrew King Again. I'm eating my I'm meeting 869 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 3: my sweet fin with my daughter and dog, and I'm like, yeah, 870 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 3: we can take a picture. And again it's like a 871 00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 3: moment that they'll share and enjoy and for us as well. 872 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 7: Well, it's like it's nice to bring a little pleasure 873 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 7: but as far as heart throb, I guess I probably. 874 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 3: Shouldn't have done too many of those photos of my 875 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 3: shirt off. 876 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,839 Speaker 7: But other than that, like there's some really speaking of boxingbodie, 877 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,360 Speaker 7: there's some shots of me like for looks. 878 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 2: Skinny, right, you're like a thirteen year old boy. 879 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 3: Like literally, I'm like, who told me to take my 880 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 3: shirt off? That such a bad idea, not developed enough yet. 881 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 3: I hadn't had my period. 882 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: And I also don't know if many young girls cared 883 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 1: about like a seat shirts. 884 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 5: And that was that was probably for older people. 885 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 1: And yeah, it's a little weird to think about now, Yeah. 886 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,399 Speaker 3: A different podcast, we might love that one. Now. 887 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 6: The thing I remember most about that whole time with you, though, 888 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 6: was it was something that was very interesting because a 889 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,839 Speaker 6: lot of the quote unquote heart throbs at the time, 890 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 6: like the Jonathan Brandis or Jonathan Taylor, Thomas any Ryder 891 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 6: they all had it was all kind of also about 892 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 6: the shows they were on, whereas you were kind of 893 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,720 Speaker 6: the product unto yourself, which was which was an interesting 894 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 6: thing to see because you were working all the time, 895 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 6: but you were you weren't on one long running thing 896 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,320 Speaker 6: where it was like you'd hear Jonathan Brandis and sequest 897 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 6: like it was that kind of thing, right or strong 898 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 6: and boy meets World where it was. 899 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 5: Just Andrew Keegan. It was about you. 900 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 6: And I think that's one of the reasons that maybe 901 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 6: you handled it so well is because, you know, and 902 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 6: I'm not saying this is a negative thing, you were 903 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 6: already the brand, which which had never really I don't 904 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,760 Speaker 6: really remember happening all that much before, because it didn't 905 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,280 Speaker 6: matter what you were on. It was just Andrew Keegan. 906 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 6: And I remember that about you more than I remember 907 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 6: any of the other young quote unquote heart throbs at 908 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 6: the time. 909 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 7: And see, I always felt in like somewhat insecure and 910 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 7: in the sense that I didn't have that job and 911 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,280 Speaker 7: I was still you know, I'm still doing this because 912 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 7: they were happy to have me do a photo shoot 913 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 7: and however that however that worked in selling magazines, was 914 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:03,359 Speaker 7: good for them. 915 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 3: But it's interesting that you say that because. 916 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 7: Of course, at that age thirteen fourteen, fifteen years old, 917 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 7: I was not aware of anything brand or not. 918 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 3: I just wanted to work, and I was always looking 919 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 3: at you guys like, oh, they got a job. I 920 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,720 Speaker 3: got to get a job. Because while you guys are working. 921 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 7: I'm going to every audition and it's just like I 922 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 7: want to be on a show. 923 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 1: Well, if you've committed to Boxerati, a little bit harder, 924 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:27,280 Speaker 1: a little harder than the thing man, Boxarati twenty three. 925 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 3: Has coming out to a to a store, to a 926 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 3: Blockbuster near you. 927 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 6: Okay, can we get a double feature of Boxarati and 928 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 6: Grinders inline? 929 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 5: Can we can we get grinders? 930 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 4: Can we do that? 931 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 2: You do a double feature? 932 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 5: Oh yeah. 933 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:41,839 Speaker 2: It is interesting that you mentioned that though, because it's 934 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 2: one of the things we talk about a lot. Is 935 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,840 Speaker 2: like the things we took for granted back then in 936 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 2: the way we were all feeling like Writer would have 937 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 2: loved nothing more than to not have been so associated 938 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 2: with just boy Meets World. For Writer to have been 939 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,399 Speaker 2: actor right or strong. You could be seen anywhere, could 940 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,399 Speaker 2: be known for anything instead of in his mind, known 941 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,720 Speaker 2: for this kid's sitcom. And yet you had the total 942 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,879 Speaker 2: opposite feeling, which is like, oh gosh, I'm just I'm 943 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,840 Speaker 2: just a floating actor going here, going there, and I 944 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 2: don't have that that show that's like that I'm known for. 945 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 2: And so it's just interesting because you know, you don't 946 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,920 Speaker 2: We we all were all insecure about the things that 947 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 2: we have and feeling like we're missing out on the 948 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 2: thing we don't have, And yet we all look back 949 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,800 Speaker 2: and go, we just really should have been kinder to ourselves. 950 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:29,839 Speaker 2: Enjoyed it a whole lot more. 951 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 5: Yep. 952 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,240 Speaker 7: Oh, I still look back on it with fond memories 953 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,359 Speaker 7: and very much I think enjoyed it. 954 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 3: But I do remember now that you're speaking about writer. 955 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 7: Writer was like so smart and sew in accounting crows 956 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:44,760 Speaker 7: and I was always like this. 957 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,480 Speaker 3: Dude, I think he had like these books that were 958 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 3: like this year, and I was like, I think he's 959 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:50,920 Speaker 3: a scientist. He's going to do something. 960 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:55,360 Speaker 1: I mean it was like what just and miserable, just 961 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 1: self indulgent and miserable. 962 00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:03,800 Speaker 2: Then you know later what were you? 963 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 7: I was like reading philosophical books and I was like, 964 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,320 Speaker 7: this was the smartest guy. 965 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:09,799 Speaker 3: I've ever met. 966 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,239 Speaker 7: And I know Danielle was like best friends with you too, 967 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 7: And I was a little like, oh Man, was so. 968 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,719 Speaker 1: Smart but so miserable. I was just so sad all 969 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 1: the time. You have fund members because you enjoyed it. 970 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 1: I was miserable. 971 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 6: Oh man, what was your When you look back, what's 972 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 6: the project that sticks out in your mind the most, Like, 973 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,279 Speaker 6: what's the I mean, I wouldn't say favorite, but just 974 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,040 Speaker 6: one that had the most impact on you. 975 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,200 Speaker 7: I think, you know, of course everybody knows ten things 976 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 7: and a great film, and like I said, I just 977 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 7: listened to Lrissa's. 978 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 3: And we can talk about that. 979 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 7: The I think the product, the project that scared me 980 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,759 Speaker 7: the most was The Broken Hearts Club. This was Greg 981 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 7: Borlanti directed his first directorial where they say that directorial debut, 982 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 7: and it was Zach Braf, Dean Kine, Timothy Olaphant. 983 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:03,400 Speaker 3: And Billy Billy Quarter Geez Billy Porter. 984 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,880 Speaker 7: It was an amazing cast and we were it was 985 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,240 Speaker 7: an all gay cast of characters. 986 00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 3: And this was in ninety eight, ninety nine, and they 987 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:09,719 Speaker 3: had not done in. 988 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,840 Speaker 7: All gay cast of characters as far as like the film. 989 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 3: You know leads since the sixties. So I was nineteen. 990 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,400 Speaker 7: I think I just remember that sort of taking that 991 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:24,400 Speaker 7: on and doing something that ultimately is not my you know, 992 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 7: my sexual you know, but it wasn't about that. It 993 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 7: was about this these these guys in their life in 994 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:33,320 Speaker 7: West Hollywood. But that part of it scared me, you know, obviously, 995 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 7: And that project, I think it turned out really well, 996 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,680 Speaker 7: and it's still, you know, in a way as classic 997 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 7: as Ten Things, but obviously a different kind of film. 998 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 3: That's so cool. 999 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,279 Speaker 2: Let's jump in really quick to Boy Meets World when 1000 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 2: you were Ronnie Lips Waterman. We recently we made you 1001 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:50,960 Speaker 2: watch your episode. Did you watch it? 1002 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 3: Yes? With my daughter, by the which is yeah. 1003 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,239 Speaker 2: Do you do you have any memories of filming it? 1004 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 2: Do you remember in Orlando? If you do, remember, what 1005 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 2: do you remember about it? 1006 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,319 Speaker 3: I see such a procrastinator. I'm going to let it 1007 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 3: come to me now. 1008 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 7: I just remember, like obviously how excited I was to 1009 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 7: travel and shoot something. 1010 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:13,759 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1011 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,760 Speaker 7: I remember obviously you being a dear friend, best friend, 1012 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,160 Speaker 7: and that was really cool. I remember some of the 1013 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 7: pictures I saw. I don't know what the hell I 1014 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:23,640 Speaker 7: was thinking as far as what I was wearing and 1015 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,839 Speaker 7: the sunglasses. That's a whole other subject for another day 1016 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 7: Fashion Fashion podcast. 1017 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:34,400 Speaker 3: The nineties, the nineties, but I mean, I remember we 1018 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,279 Speaker 3: were in a parade that. 1019 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:38,799 Speaker 2: I remember parades. 1020 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:40,719 Speaker 3: I'm ready for what you got and see if it 1021 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 3: jogs any of my memories. 1022 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,480 Speaker 2: I think one of the only things I remember, and 1023 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 2: I talked about it really recently on one of the 1024 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 2: podcasts is. I do remember that you had a bigger 1025 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,840 Speaker 2: part on the episode when we started the week, and 1026 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,560 Speaker 2: then as the week went on, and probably all the 1027 00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,320 Speaker 2: trims and cuts that needed to happen as the episode was, 1028 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,319 Speaker 2: you know, going, because of all the things you can't 1029 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,480 Speaker 2: really account for, being out of town and all those things. 1030 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:08,279 Speaker 2: I remember there being a frustration with how underused you were, 1031 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,359 Speaker 2: and it felt like they didn't give you a lot 1032 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,239 Speaker 2: to play off of. You didn't really have much of 1033 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:16,760 Speaker 2: a character, and I remember feeling a little like stuck 1034 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,120 Speaker 2: between wanting to like should I do? I can't say 1035 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,560 Speaker 2: anything like these are my superiors, I can't be like 1036 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,839 Speaker 2: excuse me, but also feeling like this is my best 1037 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 2: friend and he they're they're not really doing him justice 1038 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,440 Speaker 2: for this character, for this role. So I kind of 1039 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,480 Speaker 2: remember that, and yet I don't remember all the details 1040 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:33,759 Speaker 2: of it. 1041 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,880 Speaker 3: I do having seen it. I do completely agree. 1042 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,239 Speaker 7: So that makes total sense because it was a very 1043 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 7: two dimensional, like here he is at a better episode. 1044 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it would have been such a better episode if 1045 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,960 Speaker 1: if Ronnie had like actual character and like something to do, 1046 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 1: because then. 1047 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 5: Like there would have been a real wret. Yes, saying 1048 00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:54,800 Speaker 5: the same thing, an actual threating. 1049 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, there was no conflict. There was no you know, 1050 00:45:58,280 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 3: there really was no. 1051 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 7: I mean I just watched it. There was Yeah, now 1052 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 7: that you mentioned, there was like no issue that we 1053 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 7: really had. It was just kind of bouncing around, and 1054 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,720 Speaker 7: I guess you know, that was That was just that. 1055 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 3: That was about the Lips. That was it. 1056 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:10,839 Speaker 2: That was it. 1057 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 6: You have to say, though, you have to say, probably 1058 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 6: top five best character names in the history of Ronnie 1059 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:20,040 Speaker 6: Lips Waterman. 1060 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,000 Speaker 5: I mean, it has to be top five. 1061 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,360 Speaker 3: I just got a little excited when Will said it 1062 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:24,719 Speaker 3: that way. 1063 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,560 Speaker 2: What did your daughter think when you watched it? 1064 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,080 Speaker 3: I don't know what it is. She has got a 1065 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:34,839 Speaker 3: very strong attitude. 1066 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,600 Speaker 7: She's she's like literally a teenager at seven turning eight 1067 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 7: years old. 1068 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,719 Speaker 3: I tried to cover her eyes during the kissing part 1069 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:43,240 Speaker 3: and she's. 1070 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:44,120 Speaker 1: Like no, no, no, no. 1071 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 3: And at this point she's just kind of like used 1072 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:47,400 Speaker 3: to it. 1073 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,200 Speaker 7: We went to the ice cream store the other day 1074 00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,080 Speaker 7: and the lady's like, hey, you know. 1075 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,759 Speaker 3: You you look a little familiar. Yeah, he's in La. 1076 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 5: All right, Little Publishers. 1077 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 3: She just throws it out there, like, yeah, my dad's 1078 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,520 Speaker 3: in that movie. I was like, thanks a lot, appreciate that, 1079 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,080 Speaker 3: but no, she loves the show, by the way. 1080 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:07,760 Speaker 7: So when we when I first talked to you about 1081 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,320 Speaker 7: doing it, we started watching episodes and I called Danielle 1082 00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:11,439 Speaker 7: and I was like, I can get. 1083 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:12,960 Speaker 3: Her on the phone. I'm trying to be a cool dad. 1084 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:14,919 Speaker 3: I'm like, I get her on the phone, and I did. 1085 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:16,319 Speaker 3: Thank you, by the way for. 1086 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,279 Speaker 5: Taking it, thank you for taking the call. 1087 00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,840 Speaker 6: We still say that to Danielle when Danielle ever answers 1088 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,040 Speaker 6: the phone, We're like, thank you, Danielle for picking up 1089 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:25,879 Speaker 6: the phone. 1090 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,240 Speaker 3: Is Danny? There is Danny? They exactly. 1091 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,520 Speaker 2: It's like, better be Andy. Better be Andy if I'm 1092 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,960 Speaker 2: being called Danny. Okay. So later you would appear in 1093 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,920 Speaker 2: over twenty episodes of Seventh Heaven as Wilson West, a 1094 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,920 Speaker 2: teen dad, and you were Jessica Biel's serious boyfriend on 1095 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:46,440 Speaker 2: the show. It was the WB's most watched show ever, 1096 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,160 Speaker 2: and now it has kind of made this insane resurgence 1097 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,239 Speaker 2: over the past two years because on TikTok people are 1098 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 2: analyzing it because of some of the more crazy storylines. 1099 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 2: So here are just some examples of some story lines 1100 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:04,200 Speaker 2: from Seventh Heaven. Simon uses his middle finger and gets 1101 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:08,839 Speaker 2: suspended from school. Sheerie Appleby plays Karen, a teenager who 1102 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:13,200 Speaker 2: joins a street gang. Ruthie, the white, middle aged mother, 1103 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:17,400 Speaker 2: is suspected of being Al Qaeda, forcing family to be 1104 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 2: detained at the airport. 1105 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,160 Speaker 3: What what wow? 1106 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:25,000 Speaker 2: Simon hangs out with Hoffers at school. 1107 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,920 Speaker 3: Okay? Yes? Or glue? Okay? Okay. 1108 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:34,360 Speaker 2: Eric dreams he's Elvis during open heart surgery. The family 1109 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,600 Speaker 2: dog finds a joint in the house, and Eric threatens 1110 00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 2: to drug test his entire family, including his five year 1111 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:42,960 Speaker 2: old daughter Ruthie. 1112 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:47,960 Speaker 5: Wow, can get. 1113 00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,799 Speaker 6: Before you go on any further, Danielle, this is the 1114 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,000 Speaker 6: only thing that's been sticky in my head, uses his 1115 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,640 Speaker 6: middle finger to what. 1116 00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,239 Speaker 5: I'm hoping flip somebody off? 1117 00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,879 Speaker 6: Okay, because the way you're there could that storyline could 1118 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:03,640 Speaker 6: have gone a lot of places. 1119 00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,600 Speaker 2: Just to flip somebody off and to get from school 1120 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:09,120 Speaker 2: from the oh okay, pew So, Andy, do you have 1121 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:13,680 Speaker 2: a favorite episode or scene you were in from Seventh Heaven? 1122 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:18,520 Speaker 7: M So, I do remember it, and I wouldn't know 1123 00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,600 Speaker 7: the episode, but I remember it was maybe one of 1124 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:24,040 Speaker 7: the breaking up I had, like these really long monologues. 1125 00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:25,239 Speaker 3: Did you did you do? Seventh of It? 1126 00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:25,560 Speaker 6: As well. 1127 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,200 Speaker 3: I did not Daniel, did anybody? Okay, So I guess 1128 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,040 Speaker 3: it would be similar you on your show three camera 1129 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:33,719 Speaker 3: or yeah, three camera show, but you got to get 1130 00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:35,720 Speaker 3: the lines. You had to nail the lines. 1131 00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,520 Speaker 7: They want them a certain way, and it was like 1132 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:42,080 Speaker 7: that on this, uh of course a single film camera show, 1133 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,440 Speaker 7: but they really wanted every word that like you couldn't 1134 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,439 Speaker 7: change it so or there was just it had to be. 1135 00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:49,760 Speaker 3: Literally like it was written. 1136 00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:53,640 Speaker 7: But I had two huge monologues and I was so nervous, 1137 00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:55,760 Speaker 7: but I memorized them and I was like, I'm gonna 1138 00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:59,440 Speaker 7: nail it, nail it, and I did, and I nailed it, 1139 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,799 Speaker 7: and I like two hours early, and they were like, 1140 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,319 Speaker 7: you know, these were a lot of older filmmakers. I mean, 1141 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,680 Speaker 7: there was a guy director from gun Smoke that was 1142 00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,600 Speaker 7: directing I think that episode, so literally he was a 1143 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,600 Speaker 7: director from gun Smoke. So that was my highlight when 1144 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:17,360 Speaker 7: I got through that day. As far as episodes, the 1145 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,520 Speaker 7: kid the kids started as a baby and then I 1146 00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,239 Speaker 7: think the second season it popped up to like a 1147 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:23,000 Speaker 7: four year old. 1148 00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:24,720 Speaker 3: So I had to work with the twins. 1149 00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,840 Speaker 7: I think there was actually triplets. The second time working 1150 00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,960 Speaker 7: with Jess was great. She is just such a talk 1151 00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:32,680 Speaker 7: like at the time, such a tomboy. We would like 1152 00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:34,279 Speaker 7: hang out, go to the movies, do all kinds of 1153 00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,279 Speaker 7: fun things. And I'm sure you remember. I actually think 1154 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,680 Speaker 7: there was an episode of Thunder ally that Jessica Biel 1155 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,880 Speaker 7: and Jessica Albert came in the audience. 1156 00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,319 Speaker 3: I don't somebody told me. I was reminded of that, 1157 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,399 Speaker 3: and I was like, yeah, that probably did happen at 1158 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:50,080 Speaker 3: some point, but yeah, Jesse was great, and. 1159 00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:54,240 Speaker 7: I don't know, it was nice to be under again, 1160 00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,680 Speaker 7: these are very like professional environments, and at that time 1161 00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,920 Speaker 7: I was, you know, seventeen eighteen, so but yes, as 1162 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,239 Speaker 7: far as a favorite episode, I mean, I guess any 1163 00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,440 Speaker 7: of the episodes that I Gotta Kiss jess. 1164 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,880 Speaker 2: Right, pretty awesome ones. 1165 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:11,960 Speaker 3: They stand out. 1166 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,640 Speaker 2: One of the main things we've loved about having this 1167 00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,920 Speaker 2: podcast is that it has allowed us to take control 1168 00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:35,160 Speaker 2: of our own narrative. And it is so easy for 1169 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,239 Speaker 2: a story to become a clickbait headline and to make 1170 00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,239 Speaker 2: the rounds, and then suddenly the next thing you know, 1171 00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 2: it has just become fact without there being any connection 1172 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:47,560 Speaker 2: to reality or truth. And we have so appreciated having 1173 00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:51,520 Speaker 2: this platform to provide for ourselves and to our guests 1174 00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:55,239 Speaker 2: the opportunity to speak on their experiences. And so I 1175 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:56,840 Speaker 2: was hoping that we could talk about. 1176 00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:59,799 Speaker 7: You mean, when I woke up one day and I 1177 00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:02,000 Speaker 7: was like, anointed a cult leader. 1178 00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,839 Speaker 2: Talk about Yeah, if that's okay, I'd like to talk 1179 00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:10,320 Speaker 2: to you about your cult Okay, Okay, Well I'll start. 1180 00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,080 Speaker 2: I'll preface it a little bit. Around twenty fourteen, a 1181 00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,439 Speaker 2: couple of articles started popping up about your shift into 1182 00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:20,880 Speaker 2: being a spiritual leader, focusing on meditation and healing therapies 1183 00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:24,320 Speaker 2: and crystals all through what was considered a new church 1184 00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:28,520 Speaker 2: in Venice called Full Circle. These articles spiraled into calling 1185 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:32,400 Speaker 2: Full Circle a cult and you the nineties heart throb 1186 00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:36,239 Speaker 2: everybody remembered a cult leader. So we got a few 1187 00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,120 Speaker 2: online comments about it, even just before this episode we 1188 00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,400 Speaker 2: recording this episode, so we hoped you could talk about 1189 00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,800 Speaker 2: it and set the record straight, are you a cult leader? 1190 00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:49,320 Speaker 7: So in two thoy thirteen, it was just after occupying 1191 00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,279 Speaker 7: and I moved to Venice early twenty in my early 1192 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,400 Speaker 7: twenties and just really got immersed in the culture and 1193 00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,280 Speaker 7: the community. So and again i'll run through this quickly, 1194 00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,680 Speaker 7: but there was this interesting kind of group of hippie 1195 00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:03,480 Speaker 7: types if you will. In Venice, and I'm sure if 1196 00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,560 Speaker 7: you guys went on the west side there, there's definitely 1197 00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,520 Speaker 7: a lot of you know, spirituality, if you will. So 1198 00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,799 Speaker 7: I was connected with some folks and we had this opportunity. 1199 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:13,759 Speaker 7: There was this the old Harry Krishna Temple, which I 1200 00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,640 Speaker 7: remember when it was the Harry Krishna Temple. 1201 00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,000 Speaker 3: That's a whole you know, other story. 1202 00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:19,759 Speaker 7: And it was sitting there empty, and we're like, yo, 1203 00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:21,560 Speaker 7: why don't we just get some people together, and like 1204 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,479 Speaker 7: let's open this place up, and let's you know, we'd 1205 00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,440 Speaker 7: done occupying the street with a bunch of people, and 1206 00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:27,640 Speaker 7: I was like, let's get it together. 1207 00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:31,160 Speaker 3: Let's do some positive things for the community. So twenty thirteen, 1208 00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:32,399 Speaker 3: twenty fourteen, and at. 1209 00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,520 Speaker 7: One point we had the opportunity to get in there. 1210 00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:38,719 Speaker 7: We did, which was kind of a looking back, was insane. 1211 00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:42,400 Speaker 7: I was putting down thousands and tens of thousand dollars. 1212 00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,160 Speaker 7: But we opened it up and we spent three years 1213 00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,880 Speaker 7: and really did build an amazing friend group kind of 1214 00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:50,640 Speaker 7: like you know, in the senses of what you guys 1215 00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,480 Speaker 7: went through, we went through something really significant from fourteen 1216 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,240 Speaker 7: to seventeen. What happened was as far as the articles, 1217 00:53:56,280 --> 00:54:00,400 Speaker 7: of course my history as an actor or no. 1218 00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,200 Speaker 3: Being known in combination with the church. 1219 00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,360 Speaker 7: It was just it was click bait central, and we 1220 00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:06,719 Speaker 7: had a few things that happened there. 1221 00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:08,520 Speaker 3: But I think the first one that kind of got 1222 00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,240 Speaker 3: it all started was this Vice article. 1223 00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,600 Speaker 7: They were They came in and you know, I probably 1224 00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,319 Speaker 7: should have had a little bit more media training at 1225 00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,319 Speaker 7: the time, and I was just like, yeah, like everything's great. 1226 00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,640 Speaker 7: There's all these wild things going on, sacred and so 1227 00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:25,319 Speaker 7: they just really created a very interesting, colorful story and 1228 00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,959 Speaker 7: put you know, put it together, and I think that's 1229 00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,360 Speaker 7: ultimately but we we really just got together and like 1230 00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,480 Speaker 7: we did you know, we did a Sunday thing and 1231 00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,080 Speaker 7: we did I think almost a thousand events in three years, 1232 00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,759 Speaker 7: and it was actually really hard and. 1233 00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,640 Speaker 3: It was really beneficial to a lot of people. 1234 00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:41,560 Speaker 7: I still hear about it now where people are like, 1235 00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,200 Speaker 7: that was such a great time. So it's kind of 1236 00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,400 Speaker 7: the opposite of what I guess, you know, you would imagine. 1237 00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,720 Speaker 3: There was no you know, doctrine. 1238 00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:51,279 Speaker 7: We're not trying to We're just like, you know, get 1239 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,719 Speaker 7: people together. The co Creator Handbook was a handbook. We 1240 00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:57,400 Speaker 7: used the elders that we knew out of Hummingbird, New Mexico. 1241 00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:01,080 Speaker 3: So for for all intentsive purposes, just a really cool 1242 00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,359 Speaker 3: community center for a bunch of people in Venice for 1243 00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,400 Speaker 3: three years. 1244 00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,680 Speaker 2: It sounds much more like a group of people at 1245 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:12,680 Speaker 2: burning Man more than a group of people at like 1246 00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:13,759 Speaker 2: in Heaven's Gate. 1247 00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, so there's a difference. 1248 00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,319 Speaker 3: Cult leader kind of leads into the Heavens Gate. Maybe 1249 00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,160 Speaker 3: we should have like, yeah, I come up with a 1250 00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:22,640 Speaker 3: different name. 1251 00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,360 Speaker 7: I thought Full Circle was pretty good. You know, what 1252 00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,799 Speaker 7: goes around comes around. I don't know whatever, you know. 1253 00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:31,719 Speaker 7: But again, it wasn't something with like such a specific 1254 00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:32,759 Speaker 7: agenda at the time. 1255 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,839 Speaker 3: It just kind of sort of evolved from a group 1256 00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:36,160 Speaker 3: of people. 1257 00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,719 Speaker 7: And like I said, we've had thousands of people come 1258 00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,080 Speaker 7: through over the years and just a ton of different events, 1259 00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:44,200 Speaker 7: dinner parties and so you know, there was actually a 1260 00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,239 Speaker 7: podcast I heard recently where they were talking about it 1261 00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:47,920 Speaker 7: and they were trying to figure it out. At the 1262 00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,040 Speaker 7: end they kind of landed on like it just seems 1263 00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:51,399 Speaker 7: like a kind of a cool place to hang out, 1264 00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:52,440 Speaker 7: and that's really what it was. 1265 00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:53,240 Speaker 3: Right. 1266 00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,319 Speaker 2: Do you find that people have people mentioned this to you, like, 1267 00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:58,560 Speaker 2: do you get it online? Have you ever do you 1268 00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:00,759 Speaker 2: get asked about it interviews? Do you that you have 1269 00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:01,880 Speaker 2: to debunk this often? 1270 00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,200 Speaker 7: I mean, I think at this point we all know 1271 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,160 Speaker 7: you can't really believe what you read, and it's like 1272 00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:12,239 Speaker 7: anybody can call anybody anything. I actually did end up 1273 00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:16,279 Speaker 7: filing a defamation lawsuit against AEG and Newsmax for one 1274 00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:17,439 Speaker 7: of the things that happened there. 1275 00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,640 Speaker 3: But you know, they have an ability to basically say 1276 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:21,319 Speaker 3: whatever they want. 1277 00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:23,960 Speaker 7: I put up a fight. It ends up costing you 1278 00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:27,040 Speaker 7: money and legal fees. And you know, of course this 1279 00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:31,040 Speaker 7: recent case of defamation worked out for someone. But at 1280 00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,200 Speaker 7: the time, you know, and I look back at it now, 1281 00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,359 Speaker 7: I'm like, I don't know anybody else that's being called 1282 00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,000 Speaker 7: a cult leader. So it's kind of like a badge 1283 00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,200 Speaker 7: of honor. It's like, yeah, well I was calling you 1284 00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:39,840 Speaker 7: a cult leader. 1285 00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:44,240 Speaker 3: Man. 1286 00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:49,840 Speaker 2: So looking back now, thirty years since you first started working, 1287 00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:53,000 Speaker 2: maybe even more, you have a beautiful daughter of your own, 1288 00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:57,000 Speaker 2: do you see your childhood acting in a positive light? 1289 00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,400 Speaker 2: And would you let aya enter the business? 1290 00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:01,280 Speaker 3: Ah? Great question. 1291 00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:05,520 Speaker 7: So interestingly enough, this week she starts. I got her 1292 00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:09,240 Speaker 7: into a playhouse a Santa Monica play Santamonica Playhouse, Santa 1293 00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:11,439 Speaker 7: Monica Playhouse. So she's going to do it a little 1294 00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:15,000 Speaker 7: after school program. But this summer I did this film 1295 00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:17,320 Speaker 7: and there was as as we were talking about I 1296 00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:18,840 Speaker 7: had I had a daughter in the in the movie 1297 00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:20,680 Speaker 7: and there was a flashback scene. 1298 00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,320 Speaker 3: So I did her first movie and she did great. 1299 00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:25,320 Speaker 3: She just had to do a couple of scenes with me. 1300 00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,920 Speaker 3: But she was like it was like nothing to her. 1301 00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:29,360 Speaker 3: She's like, yeah, what do I say? What do I say? 1302 00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,480 Speaker 3: Let's go. So she's got She's got. It's just a 1303 00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:36,000 Speaker 3: scared question. She's got it. The question is like we've 1304 00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:36,800 Speaker 3: all talked about it. 1305 00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,600 Speaker 7: Is it something where it would be a great focus 1306 00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:40,280 Speaker 7: of her time? 1307 00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,400 Speaker 3: You know, I really want her to enjoy, you know, 1308 00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:44,080 Speaker 3: her childhood. 1309 00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,680 Speaker 2: Obviously, I want to talk to you about ten things 1310 00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:47,800 Speaker 2: I hate about you? 1311 00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:48,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, how could we skip? 1312 00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,680 Speaker 5: How did you've done a ton of great stuf? 1313 00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,360 Speaker 2: Want to talk to you about? Okay, so ten things 1314 00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:58,000 Speaker 2: I hate about you? Do you remember auditioning for it? 1315 00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,000 Speaker 2: What was that overall experience like for you? 1316 00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,800 Speaker 7: I did audition. I remember I was in a white 1317 00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:07,800 Speaker 7: tank top, which ended up being the helples in the movie. Yeah, 1318 00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:09,840 Speaker 7: I think if I remember in this of course, these 1319 00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,400 Speaker 7: are the stories they tell you we had. We actually 1320 00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,040 Speaker 7: had a twenty year reunion five years ago. It's the 1321 00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:18,920 Speaker 7: twenty fifth Jesus this March. Actually, you guys will probably 1322 00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:23,240 Speaker 7: be putting this out right about about that time. But yeah, 1323 00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:25,880 Speaker 7: So it was twenty five years ago, and the audition 1324 00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:28,840 Speaker 7: was at the Disney lot actually. 1325 00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,440 Speaker 3: The same place that we shot the show. I remember going, 1326 00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,840 Speaker 3: and if I remember correctly, Andrew Disarm was the producer, 1327 00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:37,240 Speaker 3: and they said, you know, sometime later like, yeah, you 1328 00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,480 Speaker 3: walked into the white tank top and did your thing. 1329 00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:40,760 Speaker 3: You were Joey. 1330 00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,000 Speaker 5: I was like, okay, great, cool guy. 1331 00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:47,120 Speaker 3: It's great. Joey eat meat on honor. 1332 00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:51,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, oh wow, guy's naterman. 1333 00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:51,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, geez. 1334 00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:55,600 Speaker 3: I mean, if we're going with nickname characters, another good one. 1335 00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,360 Speaker 3: He's like the right under Ronnie, right under Ronnie. 1336 00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:02,800 Speaker 2: I'll say, And so did you did you like specifically 1337 00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:05,760 Speaker 2: bond with anybody on that set? Who were your closest friends? Like, 1338 00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:07,400 Speaker 2: what was your experience doing the movie? 1339 00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:08,600 Speaker 3: That was great? 1340 00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,600 Speaker 7: Well, we're in a hotel, no cell phones, no even 1341 00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:15,480 Speaker 7: video games at the time, so we hung out and Tacoma, 1342 00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:19,840 Speaker 7: Washington for that period of time. I was actually really 1343 00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,720 Speaker 7: again ended up getting really close with Heath, especially after 1344 00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:23,400 Speaker 7: but even during. 1345 00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:26,560 Speaker 3: The time, we would go in his Volvo or know 1346 00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:27,600 Speaker 3: us that other car it's. 1347 00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:31,440 Speaker 7: Kind of like a Volvo Sobs has a Sob Sab. 1348 00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:33,240 Speaker 3: We'd drive there was a five mile drive and we 1349 00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:34,560 Speaker 3: would go up the hill and. 1350 00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:37,800 Speaker 7: Not exactly MAUI wowie, but you know what I mean, 1351 00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:42,880 Speaker 7: something something like that up there and then yeah, Larissa. 1352 00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:44,320 Speaker 3: Just everybody got along really well. 1353 00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:48,160 Speaker 7: It's just one of those iconic experiences in life to 1354 00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:50,560 Speaker 7: be taken out of your life, being thrown together with 1355 00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:53,919 Speaker 7: these amazing creative people make a film and a film 1356 00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,920 Speaker 7: that now everybody really considers as a classic, and I 1357 00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,480 Speaker 7: quite frankly think it is, and I think LUSA has 1358 00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:00,000 Speaker 7: mentioned it too. 1359 01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:00,720 Speaker 3: Like seeing it. 1360 01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:04,120 Speaker 7: Again, it's like, wow, that was that whole thing really worked, 1361 01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:08,960 Speaker 7: and it's timeless. There's just nothing particular about it that 1362 01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:10,560 Speaker 7: stands out that it's dated. 1363 01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,120 Speaker 3: So if you haven't seen it, go see ten Things 1364 01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:14,120 Speaker 3: watch it again. 1365 01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,480 Speaker 5: I haven't seen it, never seen it. You haven't seen it. 1366 01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:18,720 Speaker 6: No. 1367 01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:19,800 Speaker 5: I auditioned for it. 1368 01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:20,600 Speaker 3: I auditioned for it. 1369 01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:21,640 Speaker 1: I remember auditioning for it. 1370 01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:23,800 Speaker 3: A bunch of times, actually, like, I don't we have 1371 01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:25,040 Speaker 3: to watch it? 1372 01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:27,320 Speaker 5: Well, it's it's Shakespeare, isn't it. Isn't it based on 1373 01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:29,800 Speaker 5: Yeah the Shoe, isn't it? 1374 01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:30,040 Speaker 7: Yeah? 1375 01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,280 Speaker 3: Okay, Taming of the Shoe? Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean, 1376 01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,600 Speaker 3: and you know, we're. 1377 01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,440 Speaker 7: What seventeen eighteen years old, so it's like this. You know, 1378 01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:40,800 Speaker 7: some kids go to college and considering a career as 1379 01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:43,040 Speaker 7: an actor. To be able to go and share this, 1380 01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:44,640 Speaker 7: you know, even if it's only for a couple of months, 1381 01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:47,880 Speaker 7: it's kind of like was my college basically, right, right. 1382 01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:50,960 Speaker 2: That's cool, so amazing. We're so lucky that we have 1383 01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:53,560 Speaker 2: because we all know what that feels like, and it is. 1384 01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:58,680 Speaker 2: It's such a it's it's basically extended summer camp. Yeah, 1385 01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,040 Speaker 2: you know, where you get to work and you're getting 1386 01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:04,840 Speaker 2: paid and you're bonding with people and you're sharing these 1387 01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:09,160 Speaker 2: things with them that like truly a handful of people, 1388 01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,200 Speaker 2: two handfuls of people really know what that kind of. 1389 01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:14,960 Speaker 1: And also when you're like your whole life can change 1390 01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:18,200 Speaker 1: in that experience. You know, Like now I think about 1391 01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,800 Speaker 1: like being in your like twenties or thirties and being 1392 01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:21,160 Speaker 1: an actor. 1393 01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:23,200 Speaker 3: It's like you can just go and do a job. 1394 01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:25,480 Speaker 1: But like when you're a teenager you go away for 1395 01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:27,919 Speaker 1: a summer to do a job, you know that those 1396 01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:29,960 Speaker 1: that can change your life forever. 1397 01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:31,760 Speaker 5: And then but then when you're done, you can also 1398 01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:33,120 Speaker 5: watch it like you have. 1399 01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:35,720 Speaker 6: You can go back and look at it whenever you 1400 01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:37,880 Speaker 6: want to, in those memories and hope running back every time. 1401 01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:41,200 Speaker 5: Yeah maybe it's not, yeah right, but it's so amazing. 1402 01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:44,280 Speaker 7: You guys all have this experience too, Like when you're working, 1403 01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:46,720 Speaker 7: you're not at school, so you're not developing. What was 1404 01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:49,600 Speaker 7: that like, because you know, it's like very It was 1405 01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,400 Speaker 7: very difficult for me to have any relationships at school 1406 01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:53,080 Speaker 7: because I'm not there. 1407 01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:55,440 Speaker 3: But what about you guys. 1408 01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:57,720 Speaker 2: Well, I went back. I went back to my regular 1409 01:01:57,760 --> 01:01:59,880 Speaker 2: school all the time. You probably remember that. That's why 1410 01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:02,040 Speaker 2: I was, you know, in Calabasas all the time. When 1411 01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:04,080 Speaker 2: I wasn't in an episode, I was at regular school. 1412 01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:06,000 Speaker 2: And so still to this day. The funny thing is 1413 01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:08,640 Speaker 2: outside of these you know handful of people that, of 1414 01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:11,960 Speaker 2: course I have known for my entire life. The majority 1415 01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:14,320 Speaker 2: of like my girlfriends are the girls I went to 1416 01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:16,680 Speaker 2: junior high in high school with my best friends, are 1417 01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,320 Speaker 2: you know Jamie Jen Jamie like all those girls I 1418 01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:23,320 Speaker 2: went to school with, but I also was from here. 1419 01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:26,160 Speaker 2: I was local, like Writer was just from up north. 1420 01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:27,840 Speaker 2: But he had to go home just on the weekends, 1421 01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:30,840 Speaker 2: and all of his best friends are still the people 1422 01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:32,760 Speaker 2: he knew I grew up with that he grew up. 1423 01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:33,400 Speaker 3: I had to go home. 1424 01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:35,160 Speaker 1: I had to like make a huge effort, you know, 1425 01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,320 Speaker 1: And that was at the expense of a lot of 1426 01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,680 Speaker 1: my daily happiness in LA you know, like right when 1427 01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:41,960 Speaker 1: we talk about like how miserable I was, Like part 1428 01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,680 Speaker 1: of that was, like I didn't think of like boy 1429 01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:47,760 Speaker 1: Meets World or or any of the stuff we were 1430 01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,280 Speaker 1: doing in La as my real life. Like that was 1431 01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:53,080 Speaker 1: all like my job and my distraction from my real life. 1432 01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:55,520 Speaker 1: My real life, my girlfriends, my friends, they were all 1433 01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:59,480 Speaker 1: up in northern California, which you know wasn't wasn't It 1434 01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:02,640 Speaker 1: didn't great very well, Like in retrospect, if I hadn't 1435 01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:06,200 Speaker 1: had such an intense duality, like I didn't need it 1436 01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:08,520 Speaker 1: to be so binary, like you know, in retrospect, I 1437 01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:10,360 Speaker 1: could have probably integrated a little bit better. 1438 01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:13,080 Speaker 2: But and he probably could have formed friendships with people 1439 01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,640 Speaker 2: down here, and like looked at that as being like yeah, 1440 01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:17,600 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have two great sets of friends, my LA 1441 01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:20,240 Speaker 2: friends and my up North friends. And Will truly did 1442 01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:21,880 Speaker 2: it right in the sense that Will had to move 1443 01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:25,240 Speaker 2: across the country and life really like started for him 1444 01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:26,320 Speaker 2: when he got here. 1445 01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:28,360 Speaker 3: And wait, how old were you then when you started? Will? 1446 01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:32,000 Speaker 5: I was ten, I started, I started back at started 1447 01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:35,479 Speaker 5: boy sorry, oh boy, me thrilled. 1448 01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:38,080 Speaker 6: I was sixteen, like two weeks or three weeks away 1449 01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:40,600 Speaker 6: from my seventeenth birthday when I started. 1450 01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:43,360 Speaker 3: I always felt like, you know, I was like, Will 1451 01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:47,160 Speaker 3: is older. Yeah, so well, so how old are you now? 1452 01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:47,360 Speaker 8: Then? 1453 01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:48,600 Speaker 5: I'm forty seven? 1454 01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:51,520 Speaker 3: Okay, so you're wow, you're a little bit. But like 1455 01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:53,200 Speaker 3: at the time, it was like it like a little 1456 01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:54,560 Speaker 3: oh yeah, you're the biggest kid. 1457 01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:57,560 Speaker 5: You're the biggest oldie the kid. Yeah, And that's that's 1458 01:03:57,600 --> 01:03:58,520 Speaker 5: always the way it was. 1459 01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:00,240 Speaker 6: It was that's the way, and it was it was 1460 01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:03,240 Speaker 6: weird because I was just talking about this with Jeff 1461 01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:07,400 Speaker 6: Sherman the other day. I was too old to hang 1462 01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:09,880 Speaker 6: out with Rider Ben and Danielle and too young to 1463 01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,160 Speaker 6: hang out with Rusty and Betsy and everybody. So I 1464 01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:14,520 Speaker 6: was kind of in the middle there everybody. I got 1465 01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:17,080 Speaker 6: along with everybody but they like, I kind of had 1466 01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:19,000 Speaker 6: to create my own friend group because at the time, 1467 01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:22,880 Speaker 6: seventeen and thirteen is your I mean, you might as 1468 01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:24,040 Speaker 6: well be two different species. 1469 01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:25,320 Speaker 5: It's crazy. 1470 01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:27,480 Speaker 6: So you know, the idea that I'd be hanging out 1471 01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:30,440 Speaker 6: with Writer or Danielle at the time was pretty strange. 1472 01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:32,760 Speaker 6: Writer and I didn't really start hanging out until later 1473 01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:35,760 Speaker 6: in the show, and Danielle and I started hanging out 1474 01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:39,080 Speaker 6: on like Tuesday, So yeah, very different. 1475 01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:42,360 Speaker 2: Andrew, I want to thank you so much for coming 1476 01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:44,840 Speaker 2: here and spending your time with us on your birthday. 1477 01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:47,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, happy birthday, and thank. 1478 01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:49,680 Speaker 2: You for going on this trip down memory lane and 1479 01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:53,320 Speaker 2: for being vulnerable and opening up with us about full 1480 01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:55,760 Speaker 2: circle and all of that. I just always such a 1481 01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:58,200 Speaker 2: pleasure to see you again, and we hope you'll join 1482 01:04:58,280 --> 01:04:58,600 Speaker 2: us again. 1483 01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:03,240 Speaker 7: Yes, just to button it with, we're all so very 1484 01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:06,440 Speaker 7: fortunate you know, in this in this life and having children. 1485 01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:08,240 Speaker 7: I think I really just want to thank you guys 1486 01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,880 Speaker 7: for doing this and allowing us to kind of go 1487 01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:14,120 Speaker 7: down memory lane and join these memories together again. 1488 01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:15,680 Speaker 3: And hopefully we'll see you guys soon. 1489 01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:18,960 Speaker 8: Yes, definitely thank you to see you. 1490 01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:20,160 Speaker 3: Thank you all right. 1491 01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:21,200 Speaker 5: By Guy. 1492 01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:27,920 Speaker 2: Oh Man so much fun getting to reminisce with people 1493 01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:31,240 Speaker 2: and so cool. 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