1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: But I want to focus on for just a little 2 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: bit here on on US policy and what it really 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: is and where it's going. Now Bloomberg hasn't really interesting. 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: Piece up today reported and written by Bloomberg's Billy House 5 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: congressional reporters saying behind the scenes, White House officials were 6 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 1: fuming that Pelosi would delay wouldn't delay her visits, saying 7 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: it carried risks and Billy joins his life. Thanks so 8 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 1: much for taking the time for us, Billy. What do 9 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: we know about any efforts before she left to persuade 10 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: her not to go, Well, they were extensive. I mean 11 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 1: Biden administration UH did not necessarily publicly weighing on the trip, 12 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: but behind the scenes they were fuming and and doing 13 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 1: everything they could to convince her not to go, and 14 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: and when they realized that would not be accomplished, they 15 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: didn't did everything they could to to make sure communications 16 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: were kept open with the Chinese government to assuage any 17 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: concerns or be able to react to any missteps or 18 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: possible problems. It was it was an all hands on 19 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: deck UH thing for the administration as Pelosi went ahead 20 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: and did did her trip. Now we all know that 21 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,559 Speaker 1: there was a Biden that she video call right right 22 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: before she left as as well. So you have all 23 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: these diplomatic things going on, you have the call, and 24 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: none of that dissuaded her. Correct it didn't, And it 25 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: left Biden himself kind of upstaged, and you could ask, 26 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: what was this really all about? For the for the speaker, Uh, Well, 27 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: you know, I don't think we can say that she's 28 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: not genuine and saying that her concerned for Taiwan and 29 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: and and that the US UH stands up for Taiwan 30 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: is legitimate. But she's also, you know, moving into the 31 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: end of her career from all circumstances, even though she's 32 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: looking for reelection and she's not going to be a 33 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: congressional leader much longer. So this is kind of a capstone. 34 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: At the very least. You have a minute and a 35 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: half most so maybe an off the wall, uh question. 36 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: White House has been hammering China on different fronts Now, 37 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: Pelosi goes basically reinforces what the White House has been 38 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: saying about other things other than Taiwan, but also gives 39 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: Biden cover, saying it was her decision to go. Could 40 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: this have been carefully orchestrated that way or as affuming reel. Well, 41 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: you know that's a that's a great conspiracy theory, uh 42 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: sort of. But I think from what we know of 43 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: the reporting is that the concerns and the desire of 44 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: administration for her not to go were very real and 45 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: U and uh that is what we do know from 46 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: our reporting. And so if that, you know, that doesn't 47 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: indicate that it was some sort of manipulated uh perception 48 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: for the public. I got it. I just I had 49 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: to go there because I thought, you know, what it accomplished, 50 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 1: could accomplish just a couple of things. And also just internationally, 51 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: you had Ambassador Nicholas burned some of debate Jan. That 52 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: does not happen all that often, does it? It doesn't 53 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: And and he uh he had to work over time, 54 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 1: if if ambassadors can work over time to to make 55 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: sure things didn't really fall apart, and we uh, from 56 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: what we know of all right, Billy, thank you so 57 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: much for your time. We really appreciated. Bloomberg, Congressional correspondent 58 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: of Billy House