Speaker 1: Okay, how is only films to be buried with? Hello,
Speaker 1: and welcome to Films to be buried with. My name
Speaker 1: is Brett Goldstein. I'm a comedian and actor, a writer,
Speaker 1: a director of fungus, and I love films as of it.
Speaker 1: Once said one should learn even from one's enemies, the
Speaker 1: same way Russell Crowe learns how to forget what Hugh
Speaker 1: Jackman looks like every single time he sees him again
Speaker 1: in Nami's Arabla. So good point. It is odd that
Speaker 1: every week I invite a special guest over. I tell
Speaker 1: them they've died. Then I get them to discuss their
Speaker 1: life through the films that meant the most of them.
Speaker 1: Previous guests include Barry Jenkins, Sharon Stone, Kevin Smith, and
Speaker 1: even Bed Ambles. But this week it is the excellent
Speaker 1: award winning actor Womy Misaku. Get over to the patreoon
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Speaker 1: that's Brett Goldstein. So Wimi Masaku is a brilliant actor.
Speaker 1: She won a Bafta for her part in Dami Lola
Speaker 1: I Loved Boy. She's in the fifth series of Luther.
Speaker 1: She's in HBO's Lovecraft Country. She's in Loki. She's one
Speaker 1: another Bafta and a Biffer for her part in a
Speaker 1: film that I love his House. She's just brilliant. We
Speaker 1: had never met before. We recorded this a while back
Speaker 1: on Zoom and she was an absolute joy. I really
Speaker 1: think you're gonna love this one. So that is it
Speaker 1: for now. I do very much hope you enjoy episode
Speaker 1: two hundred and ninety nine of Films to be Buried With. Hello,
Speaker 1: and welcome to Films to be Buried With. It is
Speaker 1: I Brett Goldstein, and I am joined today by an actor,
Speaker 1: a woman of Troy, a honeymoon there or a Philamine
Speaker 1: and a Batman versus Superman, daughter of Justice, sister, a
Speaker 1: fantastic beast, leading Lady park a sweetness in the belly.
Speaker 1: It's not it's her house. She's called Jane, and she's
Speaker 1: Alice Darling. She's a bit low key and she's an
Speaker 1: award winner. Please welcome to the show. It's the wonderful,
Speaker 1: the amazing. She's here, She's here right now. This will
Speaker 1: be Missaku. Yeah, hi, hi, welcome to the show. Thanks
Speaker 1: for doing this. How are you? Thank you?
Speaker 2: I'm goods.
Speaker 1: How are you? Where in the world are you?
Speaker 2: I'm in La. I live in La now, I'm in
Speaker 2: La No way?
Speaker 1: What the what the fuck are we doing in the Zoom.
Speaker 2: I could have done this real life, to be honest,
Speaker 2: any excuse to not have to do like get dressed properly.
Speaker 2: I'm kind of happy. I do like the zoom world.
Speaker 1: Hello you.
Speaker 2: Unofficially since twenty seventeen, officially from twenty nineteen. I would say,
Speaker 2: what about you? How long have you lived here?
Speaker 1: Well, I's sort of half and half for a few
Speaker 1: years now.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I do like our life. We've got
Speaker 2: really good friends and family nearby, and I feel very
Speaker 2: lucky because of that, because before that, before I met
Speaker 2: my husband, I definitely didn't like La. Now I feel
Speaker 2: like I stay in my little bubble. I like my neighborhood,
Speaker 2: and you know, like I don't. I'm just not like
Speaker 2: I find the hollywood ness of everything quite and it
Speaker 2: brings up a lot of anxiety. In me, so I
Speaker 2: just kind of stay out very rarely in like West
Speaker 2: Hollywood or Hollywood or anything like that. And so the
Speaker 2: stuff that I love about America also I find scary.
Speaker 2: On the flip side too, I do feel like there's
Speaker 2: like a revolutionary spirit and people really try and try
Speaker 2: and change things to what they believe in. It's just
Speaker 2: if it's the people that you don't believe in, it's
Speaker 2: kind of scary, do you know what I mean? Yeah,
Speaker 2: you get like a January, you get a January sixth,
Speaker 2: you get like a Roe versus Wade overturned, and it's
Speaker 2: kind of like whoa, anything can kind of happen. But
Speaker 2: then at the same time you get a Civil Rights Act,
Speaker 2: you get like a do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I never thought of it like that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it is. The theory of America is anyone can do anything.
Speaker 1: And the problem is anyone can do anything.
Speaker 2: That's the problem, right, that's the problem. But it's better
Speaker 2: to I think it is better to at least try
Speaker 2: and do something rather than just stay in the state's quo.
Speaker 2: And even if you're miserable not try and change anything.
Speaker 2: I do think that's good. But yeah, for me. I
Speaker 2: just find it's so extreme here that I find myself
Speaker 2: like literally swinging through, like from one side of an
Speaker 2: anxiety to another side of an anxiety, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But I do think I am very impressed whenever
Speaker 1: I work in America, and like when I'm working in
Speaker 1: like a studio and there's stuff they have, all this stuff,
Speaker 1: like it's a real impressive machine in terms of making stuff,
Speaker 1: like yeah, and the crews are great. Everyone is like
Speaker 1: it's on the upside. Everyone's seemingly at least in my experience,
Speaker 1: everyone's very good. Like everyone like gets done. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Again, it's that kind of I always say it's like
Speaker 2: a revolutionary spirit, but it is that kind of like
Speaker 2: let's get the thing that we want to get done
Speaker 2: done in whatever aspect. It's it's just a lot like
Speaker 2: there's no you know, I feel like there's the competition,
Speaker 2: like everyone can do everything really really well, and then
Speaker 2: they do it like they do like five different things
Speaker 2: really really well. But I think that's also comes from
Speaker 2: the anxiety of like having to you can't be okay,
Speaker 2: you can't be well off, you can't really be rich
Speaker 2: because if you get sick, like you you you have
Speaker 2: to pay like or like, you can't really rest on
Speaker 2: your morals because you got to pay property tax for
Speaker 2: the rest of your life, even if you've paid your mortgage.
Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? Like, it's it's quite,
Speaker 2: it's intense. It's intense. So I I mean, I can't,
Speaker 2: like I said, I do like my life. I just
Speaker 2: find like when I look outside, I go O scary.
Speaker 1: This is why we're doing Okay, I just get it.
Speaker 1: Well me, I've I've forgotten to tell you something. And fuck,
Speaker 1: I should have told you this at the beginning because
Speaker 1: we had a problem with your headphones to I should
Speaker 1: have told you so. And then I'll just say it
Speaker 1: and then we'll sort of deal with it. But you've died.
Speaker 1: You're dead. Uh okay, yeah, it's okay, okay, yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: how did you die?
Speaker 2: Oh this is my dream. Died at like one hundred
Speaker 2: and twelve.
Speaker 1: Okay, that is old in.
Speaker 2: My bed, surrounded by my kids and my grandkids and
Speaker 2: great grandkids, and everyone got to say goodbye. No regrets.
Speaker 2: My husband died just like five minutes before, and everything's
Speaker 2: you know, good.
Speaker 1: Listen, a couple of questions. So you're you're in bed,
Speaker 1: with your husband right to bed, kids, grandkids, friends and
Speaker 1: family around your bed. Why yeah, you die of and
Speaker 1: why is everyone there?
Speaker 2: I died because it was everything was shutting off slowly
Speaker 2: and everything was like it's time. So I got to
Speaker 2: call everyone and tell them it's time. You just can
Speaker 2: you be here in the next couple of hours. I'll
Speaker 2: wait for you. We'll wait for you.
Speaker 1: And then when he died and you had five minutes,
Speaker 1: but I'm in that five minutes.
Speaker 2: Oh good question?
Speaker 1: Well you like fuck? I hope? I oh, oh sad?
Speaker 2: Oh like I tell my kids how great he was
Speaker 2: because I didn't know enough. I don't know, I.
Speaker 1: Will made me cry.
Speaker 2: I'd break for a message to see if he told
Speaker 2: told me to, if I needed to do anything quickly,
Speaker 2: that was anything that I needed to say, right, I
Speaker 2: don't know. I'm an old romantic.
Speaker 1: You know. I've talked about this before. This is the
Speaker 1: first time I've heard someone want their loved ones around
Speaker 1: them that it sounds nice. I've always been like, I
Speaker 1: don't want people watching me die like it seems so embarrassing,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, oh, my loved ones around me
Speaker 1: and all that, Like it feels like a very you know,
Speaker 1: i'd like go to the woods like a cat.
Speaker 2: Oh. I like the idea of like everyone's feeling like
Speaker 2: they said and got to say goodbye, and I hate
Speaker 2: not being able to say goodbye and yeah that those
Speaker 2: things kind of haunt me when I feel like, Oh, I.
Speaker 1: Can ask you if that's your thing, which I totally understand.
Speaker 1: When you like moved to La properly, did you have
Speaker 1: like a goodbye party, Like do you feel like you
Speaker 1: left well? Or was it like I was then be
Speaker 1: gone for a bit, like how are you at the
Speaker 1: end of a long shoot like a rap party? You
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like when you have to say goodbye.
Speaker 2: Oh. I used to cry at the end of every job,
Speaker 2: and I think it was I think I did two
Speaker 2: weeks on one night in emergency in Scotland and I
Speaker 2: was crying and everyone was like, I haven't even known
Speaker 2: you that long, like I can't even remember your name.
Speaker 2: I had like five scenes and I was crying and
Speaker 2: I thought, Okay, this is a bit embarrassing stock now.
Speaker 2: So I don't really cry the end of jobs. I mean,
Speaker 2: sometimes it might come up, but I really it hits me.
Speaker 2: I try and hold it together until I get home.
Speaker 2: And then even but then by the time I get home,
Speaker 2: I'm less likely to cry because I'm like, oh, back
Speaker 2: to life. But every time I leave the UK, I
Speaker 2: have like a going away party every single time. I
Speaker 2: always have like all my girlfriends around and like.
Speaker 1: For a week.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, that's very sweet.
Speaker 1: Where's that all come from? Have you always been that way?
Speaker 2: Well? I'm Nigerian and we do love parties. Even people
Speaker 2: who are kind of shy are used to being like
Speaker 2: the center of attention at some point, whether it's their
Speaker 2: birthday or something like that. I don't know. We're quite
Speaker 2: We're quite good at celebrating. I love my birthday. I
Speaker 2: don't need a party on my birthday though, I just
Speaker 2: need it to be like marked, Like it needs to
Speaker 2: feel like this is my day. Even if we just
Speaker 2: like go for a walk and get an ice cream,
Speaker 2: It's my day and I love it. I just love
Speaker 2: it. It can be simple, but I just like to mark things.
Speaker 2: Take a lot of pictures now. I think the pandemic
Speaker 2: really brought that out of me, though, Take a lot
Speaker 2: of pictures at every like moment, every time. I pretty
Speaker 2: much every time I see someone, I'm like a picture,
Speaker 2: so that if there is another global pandemic that whole
Speaker 2: like on this day five years ago, that really got
Speaker 2: me through the pandemic. And now I get those regularly
Speaker 2: now that oh, like two years ago we were at
Speaker 2: the Ethiopian spot in a couple of well, yay, remember, So.
Speaker 1: You can't be you can't be shy. You're not allowed
Speaker 1: to be your rights, not to be everyone's center attention.
Speaker 1: You can't be. No one can be like I don't
Speaker 1: want it. I'm shy. Oh you can, you.
Speaker 2: Can be, but you kind of you can figure out
Speaker 2: a way to like hide within the party in a way.
Speaker 2: So like my sister's wedding, all of the bride's maids
Speaker 2: have to like dance in behind the bride or in
Speaker 2: front of the bride, whichever way they do, whatever you
Speaker 2: want to do. And like I am not the best dancer,
Speaker 2: and it fills me, it does fill me with anxiety,
Speaker 2: but I just know that, like if I don't go
Speaker 2: to the front of the line, then I'm okay. Or
Speaker 2: if I'm not at the back of the line, then
Speaker 2: I'm okay. But it's your sign of support. Like if
Speaker 2: you're like close to the family, you're wearing a certain
Speaker 2: like uniform that ashoy to be the same fabric everyone
Speaker 2: everyone who all the guests wear the same fabric. And
Speaker 2: if you're really close, you can't leave before the bride
Speaker 2: or groom leave, like even if you're like tired, even
Speaker 2: if like what, you can't leave until Yeah, So like
Speaker 2: there's that kind of you can still be shy and
Speaker 2: still like show your support and just be there, or
Speaker 2: wear the clothes or like stand in the middle of
Speaker 2: the party rather than in the middle of the line,
Speaker 2: so you're not like the leader of the party or
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. You can still be shy,
Speaker 2: but you just do it.
Speaker 1: It's right.
Speaker 2: But no, I'm not shy.
Speaker 1: Can I ask you another question that maybe I'm sure
Speaker 1: you've answered this a lot, so forgive me, and if
Speaker 1: you if you're bored of it, don't But like when
Speaker 1: did you know you wanted to be an actor? Like
Speaker 1: were you as a kid doing plays and shit in
Speaker 1: your house?
Speaker 2: I always loved to perform, Like I always used to
Speaker 2: I sang in a choir. I used to do dance
Speaker 2: class and like you know, like I said, I wasn't
Speaker 2: the best dancer. And in ballet they'd be like, do
Speaker 2: you want to stand at the back so you can
Speaker 2: watch everyone. I'd be like, no, i should stand closest
Speaker 2: to the teacher because I'm the worst. Like I had
Speaker 2: no being like in the front. But I never thought.
Speaker 2: I didn't think I had anything to do with acting,
Speaker 2: And I was never scared to ask questions. And I'd
Speaker 2: get really angry if, like people said that was a
Speaker 2: stupid question. I'd be like, no, you're stupid for saying
Speaker 2: it's a stupid question, because there's no such a thing
Speaker 2: as a stupid question. And so I was I didn't
Speaker 2: mind being upfront in a way, but I didn't know
Speaker 2: I wanted to be an actor. I think until college,
Speaker 2: really really yeah, I think you know. I did plays.
Speaker 2: I was in act too, which was a little drama
Speaker 2: class in Saint Marlburgh's Church in Manchester, and we my
Speaker 2: mom put me in there when on a Saturday because
Speaker 2: she needed time to clean the house not have kids around.
Speaker 2: So I went to this class. My other sister went there,
Speaker 2: and my other sister went there, and so my mom
Speaker 2: had like time on her own to do the house
Speaker 2: and not really not like it wasn't like self care time.
Speaker 2: It was definitely like getting stuff done. And we did
Speaker 2: a play called junk about these two teenagers who ran
Speaker 2: off to do heroin. It was very or not appropriate.
Speaker 2: But I was like twelve, and I was playing this
Speaker 2: social worker called Ronnie, and like the guy Martin Burgess,
Speaker 2: Marvin Burgess who wrote the book, Marvin Burgess, I think
Speaker 2: his name is, he came to see the plane. He
Speaker 2: came to see this tiny little production of this play
Speaker 2: that we had put up of his book that was
Speaker 2: like a load of twelve and thirteen year olds pretending
Speaker 2: to the few drugs. And then it was weird. And
Speaker 2: then then he said to me, he said to me
Speaker 2: after the show, like considering your twelve when you were
Speaker 2: playing a social worker in this world, like, I think
Speaker 2: he did a really good job, and you actually really
Speaker 2: reminded me of the real life funny And he said,
Speaker 2: I think you should take it seriously, and I was like, WHOA, okay, wow,
Speaker 2: I kind of took it seriously, like I did drama
Speaker 2: in school. But then didn't have the most supportive teacher
Speaker 2: at one point, maybe it was during my GCSEs, but
Speaker 2: I want to say, mister Wells, I was really supportive.
Speaker 2: And then I think with my GCSS, I didn't really
Speaker 2: love it. And then went to college and didn't pick
Speaker 2: it up. I did maths, further maths, economics, and chemistry
Speaker 2: because I thought it was going to be a maths professor.
Speaker 2: And then my mom did chemistry and I thought, well,
Speaker 2: that might be an easy A level. And then the economics,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just thought I was another maths
Speaker 2: thing I dropped. I dropped chemistry because there was a
Speaker 2: boy that I fancied, and I figured if I dropped chemistry,
Speaker 2: I could pick up and I picked up drama. I'd
Speaker 2: be in his drama class. And you were like Michael Kaine.
Speaker 2: And then I had really great teachers, and when Moran
Speaker 2: and Rob Faulkner and they really encouraged me, and that
Speaker 2: I got serious anxiety insomnia. When I started getting into
Speaker 2: uniform maths and economics, I was like, I don't think
Speaker 2: I don't think I can do that. I don't know
Speaker 2: what I don't actually know what all this maths is for,
Speaker 2: what is standardyviation for? I don't know how it relates
Speaker 2: to the rest of the world. So then yeah, and
Speaker 2: then but the only place I found peace, the only
Speaker 2: place I could sleep, was in the drama studio. And
Speaker 2: I said to my sister I think I really want
Speaker 2: to do this. I don't know how though, and so
Speaker 2: one of I'm sure one of your questions would be, like,
Speaker 2: I watched Annie was my favorite film, and we googled
Speaker 2: everyone in Annie and Sarah. Albert Finney from Manchester went
Speaker 2: to Rada and that's how he even heard about dramas
Speaker 2: for and so that was that.
Speaker 1: Okay, that was that? Right? I love ferstally hilarious to
Speaker 1: say did chemistry because that seemed like an easy a
Speaker 1: level absolutely mad.
Speaker 2: Because my mom only because my mom was a chemist.
Speaker 2: So I was like, oh, I can get help.
Speaker 1: With this fair enough, you know what I mean. Secondly,
Speaker 1: twelve year old your work. I actually think it's probably
Speaker 1: a great social work. I think I would take it
Speaker 1: very seriously if the twelve year old was telling me,
Speaker 1: was you know, sort in my life out? And also
Speaker 1: my other question is the boy that you joined drama class,
Speaker 1: what happened to him? Did you? Did you get with him?
Speaker 1: Was he in the class?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was in the class, became the best friends
Speaker 2: ofs and he's still acting.
Speaker 1: But you never you never got with him? Okay, well
Speaker 1: it was to get you to on the right exactly. Thirdly,
Speaker 1: fourth Lee but we'll probably get to it in the
Speaker 1: official questions. But I fucking love Annie. It's one of
Speaker 1: my favorite films. I was obsessed with it and Albert
Speaker 1: Finny and Annie all time performance I know.
Speaker 2: My favorite. I actually saw it for the first time
Speaker 2: on stage Christmas before last. I didn't know it was
Speaker 2: the stage play and again blown away. I don't think
Speaker 2: anyone can.
Speaker 1: Did you see it? No, I've not seen it on stage.
Speaker 2: You've got to. You've got to. But fless, I mean,
Speaker 2: it really is and I think but for me, the
Speaker 2: standout performance is Carol Bennette, Like that's it for me.
Speaker 2: I was like, she is just the epitome of a
Speaker 2: brilliant actress in that because you just believe her from
Speaker 2: does the matter she's singing, dancing, sober, drunk, scared, like
Speaker 2: having a crisis of a realizing. I mean, you just
Speaker 2: believe every single moment of her. And she's funny and
Speaker 2: she breaks your.
Speaker 1: Heart's scared and she's scary and like her vocal comedy,
Speaker 1: like when she says.
Speaker 2: Like she sounds like a rooster, like the fact that
Speaker 2: she's like I just she's just her vocal everything, her
Speaker 2: whole range is perfection.
Speaker 1: I mean all correct. What do you think happens when
Speaker 1: you die? Do you think there's enough to life? Yes?
Speaker 2: I do. I believe there is. I believe my ancestors
Speaker 2: are still very much with me guiding me. I believe
Speaker 2: in that their energy and their presence is still are
Speaker 2: still here. I believe that when people die, they are
Speaker 2: closer to you and death actually, because when you're like
Speaker 2: separated by countries and borders and oceans and politics, like,
Speaker 2: you can feel really far away. But I feel like
Speaker 2: I get a little comfort knowing that when they've passed
Speaker 2: that they're actually closer to me than when we were
Speaker 2: living separately. Like I feel like, and I think most
Speaker 2: of my family, you know, lived in Nigeria, and when
Speaker 2: my grandma passed, I've just I missed seeing her by
Speaker 2: four weeks. I like, my I landed in January and
Speaker 2: she passed in December, and I was so good in
Speaker 2: and heartbroken, but then at the same time, I was like, wow, actually,
Speaker 2: and she's closer to me now than all those years
Speaker 2: that we've spent continents apart. Yeah, I do. I believe
Speaker 2: in afterlife. I believe, and I believe in a like
Speaker 2: I just don't. I don't believe that anything's ever over.
Speaker 1: Fully, I don't this thing of your ancestors being there
Speaker 1: their energy if you can visualize it, it isn't like
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying this is a joke, it isn't
Speaker 1: like ghosts in the room. It's like an energy of
Speaker 1: a sort of feeling of their spirit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, don't you find it amazing that all of
Speaker 2: these people, I mean, I mean just thousands of people,
Speaker 2: there's a part of them still vibrating through you, living
Speaker 2: in you, like all the like a piece of their
Speaker 2: DNA is still within you. I don't know, I feel
Speaker 2: like it's and I don't know, you know, I do
Speaker 2: identify as a Christian. No, I don't know how keaven
Speaker 2: and how fits into that, because it's just something I've
Speaker 2: never really like try to get my head around, because
Speaker 2: I just think it's I think it's foolish to kind
Speaker 2: of get your head around the divine, like, because I
Speaker 2: think all you end up doing is bringing the divine
Speaker 2: down to your human understanding and levels, And I just
Speaker 2: think that is foolhardy.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I don't even I don't try and question it
Speaker 2: or try and picture it. But I do believe that
Speaker 2: the energy and the hopes of your ancestors is still
Speaker 2: being yeah yeah continued and holding you.
Speaker 1: I do I also, I mean maybe this is just
Speaker 1: you know, having my nephew and niece and people in
Speaker 1: your family, but like sort of visually you see like
Speaker 1: my nephew looks like my dad like looks so like
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like you just go, God,
Speaker 1: this is it is like a representation of the thing
Speaker 1: you're talking about. You're like, fuck, they're there many years
Speaker 1: apart and they're the same. It continues and yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: well listen, as much as all of this is true,
Speaker 1: there is also a heaven. There's a heaven. There is,
Speaker 1: and you can see it as a sort of holiday
Speaker 1: somewhere you go. You don't have to stay, but you
Speaker 1: get to go there, and it's like the best, the best.
Speaker 1: It's an easy time. It's filled with your favorite thing.
Speaker 1: What's your favorite thing?
Speaker 2: My home? I don't know.
Speaker 1: It looks like you're home. It looks like exactly where
Speaker 1: you are, which is fucking beautiful. That means you're already
Speaker 1: in heaven wonderful and everyone's very excited to see you there,
Speaker 1: your husband, your children, everyone and anyone else who's in
Speaker 1: the house at the time. They're all very and your
Speaker 1: ancestors that everyone's there, and they're so happy to see you,
Speaker 1: and they're big fans and they want to talk to
Speaker 1: you about your life, but they want to talk about
Speaker 1: it through film, which is hard to for people so
Speaker 1: close to you. But they're like, let's try something new.
Speaker 1: And first thing they ask you is what is the
Speaker 1: first film you remember seeing me?
Speaker 2: I think it was The War of the Buttons. That
Speaker 2: was definitely the first film I saw in the movies
Speaker 2: in the cinema, The War of the Buttons? Yeah, how
Speaker 2: old do you do you think I remember seeing? One
Speaker 2: of my one what a memory I have really strongly
Speaker 2: is watching the Sound of Music in Nigeria. So I
Speaker 2: don't know it could have that could have been when
Speaker 2: I was like nine, or it could have been when
Speaker 2: I was three. I can't remember, but I definitely remember
Speaker 2: seeing that. I'm an old TV in Nigeria, the Sound
Speaker 2: of Music. But the first my first cinema experts experience
Speaker 2: was the was The War of the Buttons night before?
Speaker 1: And who who was that with? Was that with your sister?
Speaker 2: Uh huh? Yeah, my sisters and I think an uncle
Speaker 2: tooker and Uncle Tooker's many siblings? Do you have two
Speaker 2: older sisters? An uncle Tooker's And we were meant to
Speaker 2: see the Lion King, but he was running late and
Speaker 2: we were so excited, and then we got to the
Speaker 2: cinema and it was like it's all video started. So
Speaker 2: then they were like, you can watch the War of
Speaker 2: the Buttons, and that's what.
Speaker 1: We watched instead, and was it good?
Speaker 2: It was good.
Speaker 1: Oh were you the whole town going, This isn't a
Speaker 1: fucking line king.
Speaker 2: Is it? It was good? Actually, you know in the
Speaker 2: pandemic I was watching. Me and my husband were like,
Speaker 2: let's just let's watch our favorite films from Amber with kids.
Speaker 2: And I watched it again and I was like, that
Speaker 2: is a good film. Two waring school kids and like,
Speaker 2: as part of the war is taste sealing. Have you
Speaker 2: seen it?
Speaker 1: Yeah? They go into the woods, right and they have
Speaker 1: like contraptions and like, yeah, it's a scene kids.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And there's a scene where they like us, like
Speaker 2: showering down their winds, which are all these buttons that
Speaker 2: they've stolen, and it's all magical and they're dancing underneath
Speaker 2: these falling buttons.
Speaker 1: It's good. What is the film that scared you the most,
Speaker 1: and do you like being scared?
Speaker 2: No, I don't like being scared.
Speaker 1: His house, by the way, which you are in, is
Speaker 1: fucking brilliant. I think that was such a good film.
Speaker 1: I think it was really an excellent, like sort of
Speaker 1: perfect horror film, and that it's about something. It's sort
Speaker 1: of deep, it's really interesting, but it's also fucking scary.
Speaker 1: It's really scary. Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you. I love that script. I must say
Speaker 2: that was I feel like that's one of my favorite
Speaker 2: projects I've ever done, and I feel really really proud
Speaker 2: of that one. But I just thought that the twist,
Speaker 2: the writing, the moral, I feel like you forget it,
Speaker 2: you forget it. It's a horror because at the end
Speaker 2: you feel like this huge empathy and I'm not empathy,
Speaker 2: empathy sympathy like Kang of pain for everyone who's left
Speaker 2: their home as a as a refugee and an asylum seeker.
Speaker 2: And I just I feel like the horror is greater
Speaker 2: than horror, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah, beautiful, But anyway, you don't but having made it,
Speaker 1: you're like, I don't hate these films.
Speaker 2: Don't mind it if it's like I'm in it, and
Speaker 2: there's there's something in there that's that I can you know,
Speaker 2: that I can hold on to and learn from and
Speaker 2: that I love. But for me as a kid, I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't like horror. I don't like any horror. Like
Speaker 2: I still haven't seen Vetle Juice because it scared me
Speaker 2: so much just the beginning of it. I have no
Speaker 2: idea if it's scary, but I was just like nope.
Speaker 2: I remember running up the stairs and like, I'm not
Speaker 2: seeing this, and but for me it was. I still
Speaker 2: have like quite anxting And I did actually watch this
Speaker 2: in the pandemic was the Golden Child because Annie was
Speaker 2: recorded on the same VHS as the Golden Child, And
Speaker 2: if I were a wound too far back, I would
Speaker 2: get that bit with the with the animal, that creature
Speaker 2: from Hell and and the blood and the thing. So
Speaker 2: that is like, that's kind of really that was really
Speaker 2: scary for me, and I didn't watch it until twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: That's great. What about crying? Are you a crier? What's
Speaker 1: the film that made me cry the most?
Speaker 2: Titanic? I am a crier. I love, I love, I love.
Speaker 2: Let any excuse to cry. I don't cry much. I
Speaker 2: don't think I cry much in real life, but.
Speaker 1: Say goodbye to somewhere, Yeah, I do say I do cry.
Speaker 2: I have to say have a bit of a crier.
Speaker 2: I'm not a happy crier though, Like if something happy happens,
Speaker 2: I'm not like, no that I find that weird. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: but yeah, Titanic. I think I didn't know about The Titanic,
Speaker 2: maybe because I went into that film like completely like
Speaker 2: ignerent about what was going to happen, and I stobbed
Speaker 2: like I cried odd. I was at the Odeon in
Speaker 2: Manchester with my best friend from primary school and I
Speaker 2: sobbed and I couldn't get it together for a real,
Speaker 2: really long time, A really untied.
Speaker 1: If you didn't know what happened in this illic and
Speaker 1: two hours in the boat hits, you'd be like, what
Speaker 1: the fucked?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think I knew. I think it was
Speaker 2: just like I watched it for like with.
Speaker 1: Fresh eyes, incredible, incredible. What about what is the film
Speaker 1: that you love? People don't like it. It's not critically acclaimed,
Speaker 1: but you love it unconditionally.
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know about critically acclaimed or anything, but
Speaker 2: I can do I feel like anything from my childhood
Speaker 2: is going to feel amazing. Like, so one film I
Speaker 2: used to watch a whole lot when I was a
Speaker 2: kid was Don't Tell Mom the Babysitter Is Dead. I
Speaker 2: have no idea if that wasn't critically acclaimed, but I
Speaker 2: just it wasn't right. I just I can't imagine it.
Speaker 2: But I did love that a lot. I think I
Speaker 2: still love it.
Speaker 1: It's a great movie, and a great tale tells you
Speaker 1: the tone, yeah, the plot and then that's efficient in
Speaker 1: that title.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I loved it.
Speaker 1: Have you watched it in the last ten years?
Speaker 2: No, this is the thing. I don't really watch things
Speaker 2: twice except for Annie, Like that's something I could watch
Speaker 2: every year, like probably every week. But I don't really
Speaker 2: watch things twice.
Speaker 1: So it was interesting.
Speaker 2: Again, I probably have seen Titanically again, but you know,
Speaker 2: it was all the vhss Like those are the things
Speaker 2: I would watch more than once, but like DVDs and
Speaker 2: definitely streaming, I don't watch things more than once, do you.
Speaker 1: I'll be honest. There's too much stuff and it's difficult
Speaker 1: to stand on top of everything. So that was one
Speaker 1: reason that don't. However, I have found myself. I do
Speaker 1: watch stuff again, particularly if I really love it. Seems
Speaker 1: to happen maybe once a year. It happened last year
Speaker 1: with Past Lives. When I see a film where I'm like,
Speaker 1: I think that's one of the greatest films I've ever seen,
Speaker 1: I will then go see it again to check and
Speaker 1: then it was, and then I might watch it like really,
Speaker 1: if I really really fall in love with the film,
Speaker 1: then yes I will. And there are things often on
Speaker 1: fucking plain journeys or something where I'll be like, I
Speaker 1: want to see something I haven't seen for a long time.
Speaker 1: That just sort of because sometimes you have the experience
Speaker 1: of not liking it as much, but other times it
Speaker 1: is lovely when you watch something quite a while later
Speaker 1: and you're like, fuck, this is even better. Well, it's
Speaker 1: so much to it.
Speaker 2: That's what happened today. I was like looking at I
Speaker 2: was looking at Parasite and I was like, this was
Speaker 2: and Shoplifters I was like, that was a great film
Speaker 2: and I need to I need to.
Speaker 1: Shoplifters was my film of the year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I feel like I watched it and went, oh.
Speaker 2: My husband and Auntie Marley were talking about it non
Speaker 2: stop and then I watched it on the plane and
Speaker 2: I was like, wow, that was brilliant. I wish I
Speaker 2: didn't watch it on the plane, And then I watched
Speaker 2: it when I got back again, but then I haven't
Speaker 2: watched it since, but I just and then I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: it's just having to remember the films that I really
Speaker 2: I spoke to someone about because I loved it that
Speaker 2: much in the moment. But I actually I was like, today,
Speaker 2: I need to watch these films. Like I was literally
Speaker 2: fun boarding, like I need to watch this today.
Speaker 1: That Shoplifters has the best hug in all of cinema.
Speaker 1: I think when she hugs the little girl when she
Speaker 1: sees heys cars and she says, this is what love is.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, are you kidding me? Come on the
Speaker 1: other hand, what is a film that you used to
Speaker 1: love that you have watched again recently and thought I
Speaker 1: don't like this anymore again if you've ever watched it
Speaker 1: at the film again?
Speaker 2: Well, it just happened to be on the telly the
Speaker 2: other day was Popeye? Yeah, Well, like it's terrible, like the.
Speaker 1: The it's very odd that film.
Speaker 2: It's very odd, very odd, and it's kind of like
Speaker 2: disturbing that what's the big guy called? I didn't watch
Speaker 2: it again.
Speaker 1: Bluetoe. I think it's Blueto.
Speaker 2: Olive Oil and Pluto. Anyway, I kind of came in
Speaker 2: at like a bit when Olive Oil is leaving the
Speaker 2: house and Pluto's like wraw, and I was like, this
Speaker 2: is terrible, and then she finds a baby and this
Speaker 2: is terrible. Like yeah, but I sustill love that. I
Speaker 2: used to watch it all the time.
Speaker 1: That's an interesting one. I'd be curious to see that again.
Speaker 1: I think I thought it was weird when I was little.
Speaker 1: I was like, this was weird. What is the film
Speaker 1: that means the most to you? Not necessarily the film
Speaker 1: is good, but because the experience you had around seeing
Speaker 1: the film will always make it special to you.
Speaker 2: Annie. Absolutely. I think if it wasn't for Annie, I
Speaker 2: wouldn't be an actor. I wouldn't know great acting, Like
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have been introduced to great acting. And yeah,
Speaker 2: it's my number one. Like I was a little kid
Speaker 2: in the theater two years ago, like I was, so,
Speaker 2: I was buzzing with excitement and I felt like I
Speaker 2: wanted to cry being able to see Annie live on stage,
Speaker 2: like it's it will forever be my number one. I
Speaker 2: don't get bored of it. I can't wait to show
Speaker 2: my daughter, like I cannot wait. I bought all the gear,
Speaker 2: like you'll see me in T shirts around LA with
Speaker 2: leaping lizards, and you know, like, I love it. It's
Speaker 2: my number one and it will always be.
Speaker 1: My number one. You know that. That is a film
Speaker 1: that was not critically acclaimed.
Speaker 2: It wasn't.
Speaker 1: I don't understand it. No, it got bad reviews. No,
Speaker 1: I've watched it so many times where I'm like, what,
Speaker 1: what did you miss? It's so clearly you're choking.
Speaker 2: That's why it wasn't. That wasn't the answer. That wasn't
Speaker 2: my answer for Blue Craneboy. That's interesting because.
Speaker 1: It's why I think it. The only thing I can
Speaker 1: think but even that makes no sense to me is
Speaker 1: John Houston directed it, and I think it was so
Speaker 1: different from anything he'd ever done that people were like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's crazy.
Speaker 2: He didn't win an Oscar. You're joking. I just assumed
Speaker 2: it would have won all the Oscars that year, like.
Speaker 1: A badly reviewed film. Wow, Albert Any should have won it.
Speaker 1: Sandy should have won. Carol him carry.
Speaker 2: Wow, I'm so shocked. I'm so shocked. Wow, literally no awards.
Speaker 2: I'm lucky.
Speaker 1: How old were you when you first saw it?
Speaker 2: I used to watch it every single day after school
Speaker 2: from it, I want to say, from infant school, Like
Speaker 2: I used to watch every single day with little cartons
Speaker 2: of Long Life milk and I would drink the milk
Speaker 2: at the at the same time in the film. Throughout
Speaker 2: every every day after school, I would watch it. I
Speaker 2: think that's why I'm so tall and my family is
Speaker 2: so short, because I had did that every single day religiously. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I must have been must Yeah.
Speaker 1: What is the film that you must relate to?
Speaker 2: Again? This is an interesting one because I don't I
Speaker 2: can't think. But I feel like if I was to
Speaker 2: be on if my life, a portion of my life
Speaker 2: would have been on film, I feel like the closest
Speaker 2: thing would be Peck and Rae. You know, I feel
Speaker 2: like yeas in Peck and Rae. What's her? I mean
Speaker 2: just kind of like a rom calm. Like I said,
Speaker 2: I'm a romantic love love. I feel like the character
Speaker 2: of Yazz is very similar to me, like the optimist,
Speaker 2: the well maybe not the big roman romantic gestures but
Speaker 2: the big romantic gestures is something that I love.
Speaker 1: Forgive me for saying this, Do you mean Ryan.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, sorry, Riley, Yes, but yeah, I feel like
Speaker 2: And also I feel like if if there was a
Speaker 2: biopic of my life, I feel like Vivian Apara could
Speaker 2: absolutely plain me too. Like I feel like she just
Speaker 2: seems like that character. Yeah, has felt like my personality
Speaker 2: on in a film. But I don't know if I Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's great, that's a good I can buy that, and
Speaker 1: that's a lovely thing.
Speaker 2: I can rhyme.
Speaker 1: I saw the the guy from it in a gym
Speaker 1: once and I sort of bothered him. He was very nice,
Speaker 1: but I was like, and he was like ship. He
Speaker 1: was in the middle of the thing. I thought I
Speaker 1: left him. Here we go. What's the sexiest film you've
Speaker 1: ever seen? I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2: I want to say Mermaids. I want to say Mermaids.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can say yeah.
Speaker 2: I feel like I don't know if I don't know
Speaker 2: if it's the sexiest film. But I'm trying to think
Speaker 2: of the things that the thing, the three should I
Speaker 2: tell you the three things that popped into my mind.
Speaker 1: Please, That's what I'm here for.
Speaker 2: Mermaids, dirty Dancing, Yeah, brilliant. And then this was more
Speaker 2: like a I don't, I can't. I really can't remember
Speaker 2: the film and I think it was dark. So I
Speaker 2: feel a bit anxious saying this one.
Speaker 1: But Red Road, you know what, you might be the
Speaker 1: first person to say this on the podcast, but you're
Speaker 1: not the first. You're not the first woman I have
Speaker 1: met who has said that. I've heard that quite a
Speaker 1: few times and I think it is interesting and I
Speaker 1: think it probably is whatever, But yeah, I don't know what.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen it since my I definitely was I
Speaker 2: remember where I watched it with my little Love Film
Speaker 2: subscription and my third year rada. I haven't seen it since,
Speaker 2: but that that kept coming too my mind. I was like,
Speaker 2: I remember thinking that was pretty sexy.
Speaker 1: Well that might be. You know, there's a subcategory troubling
Speaker 1: bone is worrying why I don't fand arising you weren't
Speaker 1: sure you should? Is it read right?
Speaker 2: I think I think that's the one. I can't remember
Speaker 2: the story, though, but I remember That's why I feel
Speaker 2: really like, I feel like it's not a good sexy.
Speaker 2: I think it's a bad sexy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well I think it's a problem a problematics.
Speaker 2: Problematic sexy yeah, oh yeah, and now remembering a scene.
Speaker 1: But I think it is. I think I'm scared. I
Speaker 1: think it is.
Speaker 2: I's scared. I feel like I need to watch again
Speaker 2: before I commit to that one, because I feel like
Speaker 2: I might be saying something really bad about myself.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, please all of that. No, that's an
Speaker 1: excellent correct answer for worrying wido. I think, Okay, that's
Speaker 1: what it's for. This is a safe place, is it?
Speaker 2: Is it a safe place? The Internet?
Speaker 1: I don't know. It goes out in the world, doesn't.
Speaker 2: I don't know what.
Speaker 1: About? What? Is it? Objectively? Objectively the greatest film of
Speaker 1: all time? Objectively?
Speaker 2: So I don't know what you mean by objectively?
Speaker 1: What I mean is this the pinnacle of cinema. It
Speaker 1: might not be your favorite, you might want to watch
Speaker 1: it every day. But if I said to you, what
Speaker 1: is like the film that sort of represents the very
Speaker 1: best of film? Right, what were you going to say?
Speaker 1: Because it sounds like you're backing out of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I was gonna say, like one of my
Speaker 2: favorite films. And because I'm more of a theater girl,
Speaker 2: like I watch more theater than I do film and
Speaker 2: stays with me way more than film. And I would
Speaker 2: have said Romeo and Juliet the Basilamon just because I
Speaker 2: felt like it had everything that I love. It had
Speaker 2: the music and had the great acting, it had the visually,
Speaker 2: and then also it was Shakespeare too. Not that I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: I love Shakespeare all the time, but I just really
Speaker 2: love that film. But then I also am feeling I'm
Speaker 2: a hot tin roof and I can't really remember why,
Speaker 2: but I just feel like Paul Newman everything. I just
Speaker 2: feel like so drawn to him. But I don't know
Speaker 2: if it's a great film or like all encompassing objectively,
Speaker 2: I don't know. You.
Speaker 1: I think Roman and Jult is a legit answer to
Speaker 1: that question. There's an awful lot of things that film. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's a great answer and the effect it
Speaker 1: had and yeah, yeah, you can have that. Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: going to give you twenty points.
Speaker 2: Thanks twenty panks for.
Speaker 1: Finally making it onto the schoolboard. What started giving points
Speaker 1: quite late in the day. It's a new thing. What
Speaker 1: is the film that you could or have watched the
Speaker 1: most over and over again? And is it Anne? And
Speaker 1: if it's not anywhere else.
Speaker 2: It's just Annie.
Speaker 1: It's just nothing comes close, nothing comes. Would you like
Speaker 1: to play Miss Hannigo?
Speaker 2: Absolutely? Like, Actually, I can't believe that's not my immediate
Speaker 2: answer when people ask me that question because I don't
Speaker 2: know why. I don't know why. I've never said that
Speaker 2: before and I've never said it out loud, but that
Speaker 2: would be the dream role. That would be the dream.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I'd like to play Daddy Warbucks. We should
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Oh my god, oh my god.
Speaker 1: Right, we need to We need to get to it.
Speaker 1: When you start rehearsing and I've got to shave my head.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. What is I don't like to be negative.
Speaker 1: I don't think you do. So we'll do it quick.
Speaker 1: What's the worst film you've ever seen?
Speaker 2: Okay, let me just say I don't really watch film.
Speaker 2: I don't like film. I'm not watching it. So there's
Speaker 2: lots of films that I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, you stop, you walk out.
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't. I just don't watch it. And
Speaker 2: I would say the worst film that I have had
Speaker 2: to complete, because we were all watching it and it
Speaker 2: was Christmas and it was at someone's house. I would
Speaker 2: say it was step Brothers. But I'm like that about
Speaker 2: any of those kind of like super childish grown men films.
Speaker 1: Interesting.
Speaker 2: I really can't stand them. I can't stand stupid, slapstick
Speaker 2: childish grown men.
Speaker 1: Can't stand it. Is that because you've dealt with these
Speaker 1: people in real life.
Speaker 2: I just don't find it funny. It's especially like this
Speaker 2: is not manny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, interesting, that's interesting. They're very popular, very popular film.
Speaker 1: Lot of people love it, love it. Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: can understand your frustration.
Speaker 2: I can't remember exactly what happens again, and I keep
Speaker 2: saying this, but I just feel like, I mean, I
Speaker 2: just wouldn't just silly, right, it's silly, silly. Yeah, this
Speaker 2: is very silly, silly. And I don't feel like that
Speaker 2: about like, you know, like Ridesmaids or a Girl's Trip,
Speaker 2: like those kind of silly ones with women. I just
Speaker 2: don't I find them funny. I just feel like it's
Speaker 2: so dumb the other way.
Speaker 1: Well, maybe the thing, maybe there's something in that in
Speaker 1: the Bridesmaids and Girls Trip, it's it's sort of more
Speaker 1: seems more transgressive because we haven't seen a lot of
Speaker 1: that girls being silly, whereas men it's like Yeah, men
Speaker 1: are idiots all the time. Watched more of them be idiots?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Maybe maybe?
Speaker 1: What is the film that made you laugh the most?
Speaker 1: For me?
Speaker 2: Oh? Do you know what film I loved and I
Speaker 2: really enjoyed was Sick of Myself. I don't know if
Speaker 2: it's the film I laughed the most sick of myself?
Speaker 2: It was the Was it Dutch? It was last year? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I've seen it. I seen it's.
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty two Norwegian Swedish. I thought that was brilliant.
Speaker 1: Oh, I haven't seen I haven't seen it. I thought
Speaker 1: that what's the idea of it?
Speaker 2: So this girl and this guy, he's an artist and
Speaker 2: everyone loves him, and she's like in his shadow, but
Speaker 2: she's an artist too, and it's kind of this about
Speaker 2: like in a way, so social media and needing to
Speaker 2: be seen and wanting to be seen that she will
Speaker 2: make herself basically sit in order to get like the
Speaker 2: attention the pity did and it just goes. I mean,
Speaker 2: and the picture what do you call it? The poster?
Speaker 2: I wait, don't watch, but it's just brilliant, Like it's
Speaker 2: her with all bandage and she's got a cigarette and
Speaker 2: she's looking at home. She like does not care that
Speaker 2: she's fully bandaged up. She's so interested in what is
Speaker 2: happening on social media. And I just thought it was
Speaker 2: really clever. I thought I thought it was funny. I
Speaker 2: thought definitely laughed out loud. But I was also like, wow,
Speaker 2: this is isn't this crazy world that we live in
Speaker 2: right now? Kind of crazy where you will see like
Speaker 2: influencers going, oh my god.
Speaker 3: A botched up surgery. You're like, what, what aren't you
Speaker 3: aren't you aren't you worried? Aren't you sad? Aren't you angry?
Speaker 2: Aren't you? Like I just I didn't think that was
Speaker 2: I didn't think this film was quite funny. In handling that,
Speaker 2: that's great, I would say Bridesmaids as well. I do
Speaker 2: think that was a really good funny film.
Speaker 1: It's a fucking excellent film.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm not very good at giving one answer because
Speaker 2: I can't really remember things.
Speaker 1: Very No, I like it. I think these are all
Speaker 1: excellent answers. Your your greatest film, man, So I've got
Speaker 1: you twenty points if you remember. I think you've been excellent.
Speaker 1: Well me, you have been wonderful and the delight and
Speaker 1: I appreciate you being so open and telling me all
Speaker 1: that stuff. It's really fascinating. However, when you were one
Speaker 1: hundred and twelve years old and you were in your
Speaker 1: bed and you were aware that all your all your
Speaker 1: organs were shutting down, and you called everyone you knew, which,
Speaker 1: as we know, is quite a lot of people, because
Speaker 1: you can't say no to people and you have a
Speaker 1: huge amount of friends. So fucking room is packed. There's
Speaker 1: no air in this room. No wonder you were dying anyway.
Speaker 1: Your husband, loving loving husband's lying next to you. He dies,
Speaker 1: and you're like, I reckon, I've got five minutes on
Speaker 1: the clock here, and you tell everyone there about your husband,
Speaker 1: what a lovely manuals And there's so many people in
Speaker 1: the room that some people are like, what's she saying?
Speaker 1: Because your voice quite quiet, and so you're having to repeat.
Speaker 1: You're like, and you're like, I don't many repeat, I've
Speaker 1: only got five minutes. And someone goes, but sorry, no,
Speaker 1: I don't want to. It's just there's so many of
Speaker 1: us in here. And she was whispering, I didn't hear
Speaker 1: what you said to you might and you go, yeah,
Speaker 1: I fine, Okay. What I was saying is he's such
Speaker 1: a wonderful man. And then someone at the back says
Speaker 1: she's already said this, and then you're like, no, I'm
Speaker 1: saying this because she didn't hear. And then your guy, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: is everyone listened to? Everyone quiet? Just listen. He's a
Speaker 1: wonderful man, and I love you and I love you
Speaker 1: all very much. And she goes, yeah, that's I heard that,
Speaker 1: and forget it. And then you say, just let me
Speaker 1: say I love you very much. I love you, and
Speaker 1: then your lung shut down, spleen shuts down, and your
Speaker 1: heart shuts down, and your brain shuts down, and then
Speaker 1: your your calf shut down, and your spirit leaves you
Speaker 1: and joins the ancestors with everyone in the room, and everyone,
Speaker 1: even though they were standing right by your bed, now
Speaker 1: feels even closer to you. Anyway, I'm walking by over
Speaker 1: a coffin, you know what I'm like, And I'm like,
Speaker 1: what's all of those people? I'm looking up at this window.
Speaker 1: There's so many people in there. What's going on? They
Speaker 1: come up and excuse me, and I'm bringing the coffee,
Speaker 1: and I go, what's kind of And they go, oh,
Speaker 1: these two just just died. And they go, oh god,
Speaker 1: what happened to go. I didn't one of the guys.
Speaker 1: I didn't really. She was saying something and someone she
Speaker 1: said she loves you, and she loves you. It was
Speaker 1: actually very moving. Oh sorry, well there's just you were bumbling.
Speaker 1: I didn't hear. Anyway, I go, well, can you help me.
Speaker 1: I'll get her in the coffin, and we get you
Speaker 1: in a coffin. But there's more of a nice expectance it.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, can you has anyone got some tools
Speaker 1: people bring, like fucking hamm'ch smashing you up, trying to
Speaker 1: get you into this coffin. Anyway, Yeah, we have to
Speaker 1: because we have to get you in the coffin. But
Speaker 1: everyone's lovingly especially and then we get you in the coffin,
Speaker 1: it's absolutely jammed in there, and there's only enough room
Speaker 1: in this coffin for me to slide one DVD into
Speaker 1: the side for you to take across to the other side.
Speaker 1: In fact, this time, it's a very unusual thing, just
Speaker 1: because I know the only way you're going to watch
Speaker 1: films over and over again. It's actually a VHS and
Speaker 1: it goes in with you to the other side, and
Speaker 1: on the other side it's movie night every night. What
Speaker 1: film are you taking to show people in your house
Speaker 1: which is heaven where you died and you come straight back.
Speaker 1: What film are you taking to show all your loved
Speaker 1: ones in your house when it is your movie night women.
Speaker 2: I don't want to say it.
Speaker 1: You can say it. You have to say it.
Speaker 2: I have to say it.
Speaker 1: I'll be devastated if you don't.
Speaker 2: Say it, Sanny.
Speaker 1: And everyone's like, you have showed it.
Speaker 2: Watch it every year.
Speaker 1: Every daylight woman. Is there anything you would like to
Speaker 1: tell people to look out for, to watch, to listen
Speaker 1: to coming up with you in in the future other
Speaker 1: than Annie with Me.
Speaker 2: My my show Passenger is coming out on ITV and
Speaker 2: britt Box.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's My Passenger Passenger.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's about a small town called chatter Vale in
Speaker 2: the North and it's a bit of a like it's
Speaker 2: super normal, ultra normal, so normal that to normal that
Speaker 2: it's unnatural and so it's not it's not like sci fi.
Speaker 2: It's unnatural. And my character is like, something is up
Speaker 2: with this town and no one is listening to me.
Speaker 2: And it's about figuring out there's like how to It's
Speaker 2: about fears. It's about facing your fears. Figuring. It's about family,
Speaker 2: it's about bad relationships, it's about, yeah, what people do
Speaker 2: when they're scared, what a town does when they're scared,
Speaker 2: when no one wants to talk about what's really going
Speaker 2: on in front of them, Push it under the carpet.
Speaker 1: Interesting, All right, well everyone should watch it? Will me?
Speaker 1: What pleasure? Thank you for doing this, haven't we had? Yes,
Speaker 1: thank you for putting me in your diary this week.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it not at all. All right, well, I
Speaker 1: guess we should wrap this up. And I always say
Speaker 1: to you, I wish you a wonderful death, and thank you.
Speaker 1: Good day to you. So that was episode two hundred
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Speaker 1: No telling you what it is, coming soon. I hope
Speaker 1: you're all well. Thank you all for listening. I hope
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