1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for listening to the Two Pros and a 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: Cup of Joe podcast with LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, and 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: myself Jonas Knox. Make sure you catch us live weekdays 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: six to nine am Eastern Time three to six am 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. You can find your local 6 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: station for the Two Pros and a Cup of Joe 7 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: show over at Foxsports Radio dot com, or stream us 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 9 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:31,159 Speaker 2: Give this. 10 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 3: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 11 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, get them beats. 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So yesterday, the 41 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: gambling scandal that rock the world that ESPN was really 42 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: trying not to talk about, really wanted no part of 43 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: we don't know what to do with this deer in 44 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: headlights moments when they've got the ESPN BET logo on 45 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: the screen while they're talking about this whole thing and 46 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: not sure how to decipher how to address the whole 47 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: scenario and conversation when it's pretty easy. Hey, listen, DraftKings 48 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: is a part of our show. DraftKings is part of 49 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: the NBA. But it doesn't mean that everybody is using 50 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: DraftKings to gamble on games, all right, Like these players 51 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: are outliers. You would hope if they're not, the NBA 52 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: has got bigger issues. But these are outliers. And Chauncey 53 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: Billups and Damon Jones and Terry rose Ye who were 54 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: all involved in this scandal. You know, they were arrested yesterday. 55 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: They have claimed innocence. They have said, you know, nothing's 56 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: been charged yet or nothing. They have not been charged 57 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: and they're not going to do any time yet. But 58 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: it does look pretty bad based on some. 59 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 5: Of the details we have. 60 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: Oh no, now, not the Clint. Some of those details 61 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: are fascinating. First, Terry Rogier. This was from Jessica Tish, 62 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: the New York Police Department police commissioner, who detailed Terry 63 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: Rogier's I don't know intentions during a certain game in 64 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:42,839 Speaker 1: March of twenty twenty three. 65 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:47,119 Speaker 7: In some instances, players altered their performance or took themselves 66 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 7: out of games to make sure that those bets paid out. 67 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 7: One example occurred on March twenty third, twenty twenty three, 68 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 7: in Charlotte. Terry Rogier, an NBA player now with the 69 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 7: Miami Heat but at the time playing for the Hornets, 70 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 7: allegedly let others close to him know that he planned 71 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 7: to leave the game early with a supposed injury. Using 72 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 7: that information, members of the group placed more than two 73 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 7: hundred thousand dollars in wagers on his under statistics. Rogier 74 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 7: exited the game after just nine minutes, and those bets 75 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 7: paid out, generating tens of thousands of dollars in profit. 76 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 5: The whole thing, it's just, it's amazing. 77 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 1: And there's probably somebody who was like watching the game somewhere, 78 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: which I made the point yesterday, if you're betting on Hornets, 79 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: like I don't even know who the Hornets were playing 80 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: at that time, it was like the Hornets, Grizzlies or 81 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: some awful team. Like, if you're betting on that game, Hornets, 82 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 1: Pelicans or whatever the game is, If that's what you're 83 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: doing on a Thursday night, you deserve to be paid, Like, 84 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you deserve to get some sort of a payment, 85 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: and so whoever cashed in those bets, you deserve it. 86 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: But there was probably somebody else watching it going, Jesus, 87 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: what what is Rogier got money on this game? Like 88 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: the way he's playing, what are you like? What is 89 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: this this guy got? Is this guy on the take 90 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: not realizing? Yeah, he actually was, like he was actually 91 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 1: tanking that game so the people could get paid. 92 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 8: And the worst part is. 93 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 5: I think he was getting a kickback. He would have 94 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 5: to Yeah, I mean you have to. 95 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,119 Speaker 1: I don't know what sort of kickback would be worth 96 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: risking the twenty something million dollars making a year. 97 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 4: Stupid, but I guess he just felt like it couldn't 98 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 4: harm anything, Like what what is the thought process on 99 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 4: that approach? 100 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 5: Like? Why do it? 101 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 4: I think that's the question that everybody's going to continue 102 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 4: to ask, right, why risk millions for thousands like two 103 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 4: hundred thousand dollars and bets like okay, that's that's that's 104 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 4: not a lot of money to NBA players, marquee players. 105 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 4: On top of that, I want to I want to 106 00:05:56,240 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 4: make a comparison. But go ahead, make the comparison. Yeah, 107 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 4: let's see why not. Let's see if you do it 108 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 4: let's see. 109 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 2: You know, like. 110 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: You ever you ever had a like a friend who 111 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: maybe fools around on his better half, and then you 112 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 1: see who he fooled around with, and you're like, wait 113 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: a second, you risked it all for that. And I 114 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: just wonder if maybe it's one of those situations where 115 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: you're like, you're in the moment, things are going on, 116 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: and you're. 117 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 5: Like, eh, why not? You know, but it went on 118 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 5: for years, So that's a hard one to you know, Like. 119 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 8: I mean, Terry Rogier had a ten job. 120 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: But when you play it that way, when that four 121 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: looks decent right now on a Thursday night. 122 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 4: But if you think about it, when you put it 123 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 4: that way, it's about the sensation that you get. It's 124 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 4: about the It's about that energy charge that the thrill, 125 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 4: love of what that feels like, the thrill of the chase, 126 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 4: the thrill of am I going to win or not win? 127 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 4: Like I don't understand why Rosier or or other guys 128 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 4: like that would help the bet by doing it that way. 129 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 4: I don't know what they get out of it, because 130 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 4: that's that's like, Okay, we're going to get the under 131 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 4: I'm gonna take myself out, Like I see it as 132 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 4: being like, Okay, this is a little side hustle some 133 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 4: some passive income. But if you're using the other example 134 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 4: as an example, I would say maybe for somebody, it's 135 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 4: for the effect of it. Like like I like playing 136 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 4: blackjack because of that moment you feel before you know 137 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 4: what the cards are going to be, Like that moment 138 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 4: when I when I put my bet down, I want 139 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 4: to put down such a significant bet that that feeling 140 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 4: that I have once the once the dealer starts putting 141 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 4: the cards out, that feeling from the time they start 142 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 4: putting the cards out until the time they go bust 143 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 4: or they beat you or whatever it is. 144 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 5: That's why I play blackjack, not even the There's very 145 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 5: few times I've ever walked away from the table with money. 146 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 5: I always say, I'm investing in an experience. Yeah, so 147 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 5: I'll take I'll take five hundred dollars one thousand dollars 148 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 5: to the table. I have turned five hundred one thousand 149 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 5: dollars literally, asked TJ. Hutchman's out of he tells the 150 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 5: story the best. 151 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 4: I mean, hell Lee, if he was here, he'd be 152 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 4: on to tell bro I can take small amounts and 153 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 4: turn into like I'd be up to like ten fifteen, 154 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 4: twenty thousand dollars off of five hundred one thousand dollars, 155 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 4: And generally I never leave with the money because I 156 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 4: get so into the feeling, that feeling from the time 157 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 4: you put the money up. When when when that dealer 158 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 4: starts dealing, that that adrenaline rush, that whatever that fix 159 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 4: is that I'm feeling right there, I'm okay with putting 160 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 4: up more money, even if I'm looking at it like 161 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 4: the fix is in like this this is rigged. Something's 162 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 4: going on with the cards. There's no way that this 163 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 4: dealer should be pulling from a shoot and getting twenty 164 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 4: one with five cards on the table, Like shouldn't happen. 165 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 4: But I still play because the feeling. You get, that feeling, 166 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 4: and maybe that's what it is. Maybe that feeling supersedes 167 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 4: the idea of logically speaking, Why would you be betting 168 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 4: if the total amount was two hundred thousand dollars of 169 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 4: total bets on this under that's not for you, the player, 170 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 4: that's not what you make. Why would you do that 171 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 4: other than to say, I'm going to help some family 172 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 4: members out. If you want to help family members out, 173 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 4: stuff like that. Maybe I could see that being something 174 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 4: that you did, like, oh, your brother, your cousin, homeboy, 175 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 4: whatever it may be. They're going to bet on this dot. Okay, 176 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 4: this is early in the year. It ain't gonna hurt nothing. 177 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 4: I'm coming out like bet my under. 178 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 1: And the problem with the Rosier situation, which and I 179 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: remember talking about it at the time and people were 180 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: giving me a hard time, say why are you talking 181 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 1: about it? It was during the Saturday Show and people were 182 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: giving me a heart time, like why are you talking 183 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: about The NBA were like, listen, man, this story is 184 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 1: not going anywhere. And the fact that it comes out 185 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: that the day of him acting the way he acted 186 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: it like the next morning or actually that day of 187 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: the game. Sports books around the country were flagged to hey, 188 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: there's an unusual activity. A lot of money's coming in 189 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: on Terry Rogier unders for the game, points, rebounds, assists, 190 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: whatever it is, like, there's a lot of money coming in. 191 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: This is abnormal for a Thursday night game between the 192 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: Pelicans and the Hornets. This does not add up. It 193 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: doesn't make sense. They tipped off the NBA. The NBA 194 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: knew about it. Terry Rozier didn't play the rest of 195 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: the year, and the story was, well, he's got an injury. 196 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: He did not have an injury. The NBA was looking 197 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: into this, and then the next year starts and he 198 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: was allowed to play the entire year like it played 199 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: the entire star. 200 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 4: So here's the bigger question, I think because the individuals 201 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 4: that that'll play itself out, and generally speaking, you get 202 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 4: conclusions that it's like, yeah, you could have figured that. 203 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 5: That would have been a conclusion of what took place, 204 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 5: But the. 205 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 4: Fallout from it, like what you're you're making mentioning of 206 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 4: mention of right now? How does this play out for 207 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 4: the other parties involved? How does it play out for 208 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 4: the NBA? How does it play out for you know, 209 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 4: the commissioner of the NBA, Like, how does this play 210 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 4: out for the entities involved in this outside of the players. 211 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: The Chauncey Billups one is like Damon Jones was an 212 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: assistant coach with the Lakers and he's hitting people up 213 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: being like, hey, Lebron's not going to play tonight, Like 214 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 1: Lebron's not playing. 215 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 5: Put your money on Milwaukee. 216 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: So there's that involvement to where he's basically giving inside 217 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 1: information to people, so they can place wagers on it 218 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: for you. 219 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 5: If you're telling them Lebron didn't play, you don't have 220 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 5: to tell them what their bet should be. Just telling 221 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 5: them Lebron isn't playing. Isn't that enough inside or information? 222 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: But there's like he's on record as saying something along 223 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: the lines of lay the house on Milwaukee. So he's 224 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: instructing them and he just playing how you can make 225 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: that call. At one point he even says to them, 226 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: but make sure you save a little for for for Damon, 227 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: like like, make sure you save a little bit for Damon. 228 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:43,719 Speaker 1: Like that was sort of his Hey like, yeah, cut me, 229 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: cut me some you know, he'll give me a little 230 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: bit of that. So he did that, I guess a 231 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: bunch of times, like we laid out earlier, one of them. 232 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 5: Actually didn't hit. You know. 233 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: He was like, hey, there's a bunch of guys that 234 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: are going to be sitting out. One of them didn't hit, 235 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 1: and so they got pissed and said, you know, they 236 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: wanted their money back because they bet money on this 237 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 1: game based on his information. 238 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 5: It didn't hit. 239 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: So they were pissed off of Damon Jones. The Chauncey 240 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: Billups stuff and we're gonna hear from you know, from 241 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: the details of those poker games. This is where the 242 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: Chauncey Billup stuff gets bad because even when the news 243 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: came out that Chauncey Billups got popped for this, when 244 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,839 Speaker 1: we talked about it in real time yesterday on the show, 245 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 1: people after the Factor were like, oh, by the way, 246 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: Chauncey Billups involvement in all this this said didn't have 247 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: anything to do with games that he coached. This was 248 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: Chauncey Billups and a poker ring. This is separate from 249 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: you know, the NBA and well, and then it comes 250 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: out that Chauncey Billups was telling people the Blazer's intentions 251 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: from game to game in which he was telling people 252 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: we're tanking. Literally said, we're intentionally trying to lose, We're 253 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: trying to increase our odds in the draft because they 254 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: wanted to get Victor webbin Yama. And as it turns out, 255 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: you can't do that, like you cannot admit to the 256 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: fact that you are tanking. You cannot come straight out 257 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: and say that. So not only is he is he 258 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 1: implicating the Blazers organization and their instructions to the team, 259 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: like Hey, we're going to be tanking games. We're not interested. 260 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: So there's that that's a bad look. But then he's 261 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: also doing it so that people can place wagers and 262 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: fade the blazers so that those people can get paid. 263 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: This isn't just as much as they tried to push 264 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: well just the poker suth. No, no, no, no, you've got 265 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: a head coach admitting and acknowledging our organization is tanking games. 266 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: I'm the coach. And by the way, here's who we're 267 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: not playing. If you want to go ahead and make 268 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: money on fading us, he's screwed, dude, Like, if this 269 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: is true, he's screwed. And I think Shaq made the 270 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: point last night where he's like, look, man, the FBI. 271 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: The FBI doesn't come knock it unless they think they 272 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: got something. Oh yeah, absolutely sorry. This is not just like, well, 273 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: let's wait until all the facts come out. Okay, fair, 274 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: but this probably isn't going to end well now, they 275 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: didn't explain how this stuff sort of played out, some 276 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: of these illegal poker games that were taking place. Let's 277 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: take a listen to this gem from yesterday. 278 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 9: The defendants in this case orchestrated a Skiing to use 279 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 9: wireless cheating technology to run rigged poker games across the 280 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 9: United States. 281 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 3: The scheme targeted victims known. 282 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 9: As quote phish, who were often lord to participate in 283 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 9: these rigged games by the chance to play alongside former 284 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 9: professional athletes who were known as quote face cards. The 285 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 9: so called face cards included the defendant Chauncey Billips, who 286 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 9: at the time of the scheme was a former. 287 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 3: NBA player and is currently the head. 288 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 9: Coach of the Portland Trailblazers, and also Damon Jones, a 289 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 9: former NBA player and coach. 290 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 3: What the victims the fish didn't know is. 291 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 9: That everybody else at the poker game, from the dealer 292 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 9: to the players, including the face. 293 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 3: Cards, were in on the scam. 294 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 9: Once the game was underway, the defendants fleeced the victims 295 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 9: out of tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars per game. 296 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 9: The defendants used a variety of very sophisticated cheating technologies. 297 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 9: For example, they used off the shelf shuffling machines that 298 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 9: had been secretly altered in order to read the cards 299 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 9: in the deck, predict which player at the table had 300 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 9: the best poker hand, and relay that information to an 301 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 9: off site operator. The off site operator sent the information 302 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 9: via cell phone back to a co conspirator at the table, 303 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 9: and together they used that information in order to win 304 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 9: their games and to cheat the victims. 305 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 5: Crazy, man, it's crazy. That's only a lot of work. 306 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 5: Man's a lot of work. But I mean, you're hustling 307 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 5: six figures. 308 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 8: But and then you know there's there's a beer player. 309 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 4: They was getting hundreds, one hundred thousand plus out of 310 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 4: players just per per game. 311 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: Well, because these guys are probably like, man, I get 312 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: to yeah, I'll go play poker. I get to play 313 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: poker with Chauncey Billups. He's a Hall of Famer and 314 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: an NBA you know big you know, NBA champion and all, 315 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: Like I get to play with NBA players. 316 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 8: Yeah, I want to go be a part of this. 317 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:30,719 Speaker 8: Let's go hang out and play poker. 318 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,719 Speaker 1: Ah shuck, she got me again for another fifteen grand, 319 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: not realizing Chauncey Billups has got glasses on that can 320 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: see secretly marked cards, like they're an X ray machine. 321 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 4: You know what I'm curious about is how did this 322 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 4: become an investigation? Like how did the idea Like okay, 323 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 4: maybe it was flagged for the NBA games betting on 324 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 4: those games. Maybe it was flagged. I believe it was 325 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 4: mentioned because it was such a large amount put down 326 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 4: on on the rosier player not playing or whatever. 327 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: So I don't know if this is the origin of it. 328 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: But there was a professional poker player named Matt Burke 329 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: who a couple of years ago was on a podcast 330 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: and he detailed these illegal poker games, and he talked 331 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 1: about Chauncey Billips being one of the guys at these 332 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 1: poker games. Oh and so I don't know if the 333 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: FBI got caught wind of that and started then secretly 334 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: looking into. 335 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 4: I've been a part of parties, bro. I can recall 336 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 4: when I played. You know, you go to parties and 337 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 4: bro the person had including my house, if you had 338 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 4: pool table in the house, there was going to be 339 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 4: gambling like so you know what I mean. 340 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 5: And it was. 341 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 4: Cash bruh, like like a lot of money, like a 342 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 4: lot of money that was like being bet and being 343 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 4: thrown around. And it wasn't just yeah, it wasn't just pros. 344 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 4: It was like you know, regular everyday dudes. That was 345 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 4: a part of it too. And and and cats would 346 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 4: be like shooting craps, that would be like the biggest 347 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 4: like the biggest thing was shooting crabs. 348 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: But in saying that, you know, was there some sort 349 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: of secret behind behind their back deals where hey let's 350 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: fleece out these regular people? 351 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 4: From what I think about it, like like think about it. 352 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 4: How how aware or any given amount of people to 353 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 4: a situation like that. So what I'm saying is is 354 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 4: how did it become common knowledge? So if you're saying 355 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 4: this guy said that, that's fine, Okay, this this this, 356 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 4: this guy says that the poker player says that this 357 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 4: was going on detailed it. I can understand how you 358 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 4: connected to untie Billups now because he said the name. 359 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 4: But is that to me? Is that how it got out? 360 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 4: How does this become an investigation? How do you link it? 361 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 4: Because put it to you like this, like people have 362 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 4: friend clicks, Like it's like sets, right, you have different clicks. 363 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 4: This seems like it's connected to all the same people, right, 364 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 4: Like there's like connective tissue and at least with with 365 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 4: Jones and Billups, right, not not the. 366 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 5: Best, not the basketball kid. That's a little different, right, Yeah, 367 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,360 Speaker 5: that's a little rosier, is like that's. 368 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 4: More singularly, But but I feel like Damon Jones and 369 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 4: Chauncey Billups is more related, Like there's a connective tissue. 370 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: By the way, the basketball stuff is Operation nothing but 371 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: Net and the poker stuff is Operation Royal Flush. 372 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 5: Just to we're clear, I just like, to me, I 373 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 5: think there's got to be more. 374 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 1: I think it's probably something as simple as if there's 375 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: enough people involved, you increase your odds that somebody tells 376 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 1: somebody something. 377 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 5: And but how do they know to tell you they're cheating? 378 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: Well, so, because as they were explaining that, everybody from 379 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 1: the dealers to the to all the other people involved, 380 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: including Chauncey Billups and you know the other one, like, 381 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: they all were in on the scam. And so look, 382 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: Chauncey Billups could have said something in passing. One of 383 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: the dealers, could have said something to to a buddy 384 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: of his who's a poker player, and be like, dude, 385 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: you got to see what we're. 386 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 5: Pulling off these days. 387 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: So we've got these guys that come in, Chauncey Billups 388 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 1: is there, and a lot like these guys aren't celebrities. 389 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: So I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility 390 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: that maybe a dealer or one of these guys is like, 391 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 1: oh yeah, I was hanging out with with with Chauncey 392 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: billups you know who that is, the NBA player, Yeah, 393 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: and listen, and we were part of a game together. 394 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, like like like a couple of times champion. 395 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: And I just think that there's when there's enough people involved, 396 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: somebody may have just said one thing and then it spread. 397 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 4: Like chance, Uh, what's the boxer's name, Adrian Broner. He's 398 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 4: a part of hustling NBA players in card games, Like 399 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 4: there was a whole thing on that where he you know, 400 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 4: and that was millions that was hitting the millions of 401 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 4: how I think high stakes poker, private poker games or whatever. 402 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 4: You hear about the arena situation. Now you're hearing about 403 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 4: Bill Upson and Jones, And I think again, the reason 404 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,360 Speaker 4: why I'm asking how did this come about is because 405 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 4: there's probably that's culture, right. We heard about this when 406 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 4: Michael Jordan was playing, you know, when it went. 407 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 5: As deep as people were alleging that maybe you know, 408 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 5: his gambling was so serious that you know, they connected 409 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 5: that to what happened to his pops, and that was 410 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 5: a story so gaming has always been a part of 411 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 5: sports culture. 412 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: And look, there's also a lot of people who believe 413 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: that his time away to go play baseball was the 414 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 1: NBA saying take a walk for a little while, because 415 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 1: we know you're doing something on the side. 416 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 5: I'm saying that's true. All I know. All I know is. 417 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 4: If if there's smoke and fire with this particular situation, 418 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 4: there's probably twenty thirty more of them or more way 419 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 4: more of athletes doing the same exact things. 420 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,959 Speaker 1: It's like pds, Like they all of a sudden, we're 421 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: cracking down on peds and then every single year something 422 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: comes up where hey, so and so pissed hot, like happens, 423 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: like somebody's always gonna find some way to get an 424 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: edge or to go down this road before. Like, yeah, 425 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: I one hundred percent believe that there's either more out 426 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: there or there's probably a lot of guys that are 427 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: sweating their balls off right now. 428 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 5: Like God, I hope they don't. 429 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 1: Hold that all come for me because it's so easy 430 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: if you're an NBA player and somebody hits you up 431 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: and be like, hey, so, how much you playing because 432 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: you're supposed to start it. 433 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 5: You're coming off the bench. 434 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 8: He's coming off the bench, dude, So could you do 435 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 8: me a favor? 436 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 5: Yeah? What's that like? 437 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: If you have an open shot, you know, you know, 438 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: give it up, you know, give it to somebody else. 439 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: Because I got the under on eight and a half 440 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: points for you in this game tonight. It's like, all right, dude, 441 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: Like I see a guy in the corner. I'm gonna, 442 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:20,959 Speaker 1: you know, trying up my assist. But I don't want 443 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: to score too many points because I just it's not 444 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 1: that hard. And look, Tim, Donnie and we played it earlier. 445 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: He's saying, well, I think you're going to see a 446 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 1: lot of this on the college level. Yes, and you 447 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: already have. 448 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 4: You would assume it would be way more prevalent because 449 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 4: it's not as much money involved. 450 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 1: And it's happened like because people are like, man, are 451 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: they really gonna get pissed because a lot of these 452 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 1: prop bets, you know, like the super Bowl does this 453 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: to where the Super Bowl's got prop bets to where 454 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: you can bet on the color of the gatorade or 455 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: you can bet on how long the national anthem is. 456 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 5: You mean to tell me none. 457 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 1: Of those security guards that are working in the stadium 458 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 1: all the time. Aren't taking a peek at the gatorade, 459 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: aren't looking at the national app But you've had people 460 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 1: that have recorded it outside the stadium when they're in 461 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 1: rehearsals like. 462 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 4: Or WWF right WWE like you know, or you WrestleMania. 463 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 4: You can bet on that right places. And that stuff 464 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:17,360 Speaker 4: is determined. It's already predetermined. So who's to say that 465 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 4: somebody who's helped predetermine it, like has that information, like 466 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 4: bet on this dude, yeah, bet the bank. 467 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 5: Yeah. 468 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 4: I'm just saying this opens up that, this opens up 469 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 4: the conversation really for everything. 470 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's like, you know, and that's the thing 471 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:34,919 Speaker 1: about it is that with this stuff and a scandal 472 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: like this is anybody's guests and O'Reilly Autoparts can help 473 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: take the guests work out of your vehicles, check engine light, 474 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: ABS or maintenance light with o'reiley verscan. 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New episodes drop every Thursday, so do yourself 492 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 10: a favor and listen to Inside the Parker with Rob 493 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 10: Parker on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast. 494 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: Uh. 495 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 5: Hickey or Bruce Damn Shure. 496 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 8: No, sure, Lee, Yeah, but technically, isn't that what a 497 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 8: hickey is? 498 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 5: Yes? 499 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 6: Yes, technically, when you give a hickey, you pull the 500 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 6: blood thingies up to the surface of the skin because 501 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 6: you suck on it so hard. 502 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 5: Got a vampire like cupping or whatever like this, it's 503 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 5: a bruise. Uh huh, it's ridiculous. 504 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 4: You ever gotten cupped cupped that? Yeah, cupped with U 505 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 4: what's the acupuncture and all that stuff? Then they connect 506 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 4: the electrodes to you know, bruh, that's some wild junk 507 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 4: when they stick the needle in and it releases like that, 508 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 4: like the build up assets and stuff like that that 509 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 4: you be having like the works. Oh yeah, br you 510 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 4: can feel it released, be burning down. Yeah, it's crazy, man, 511 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 4: It's crazy the things that you can do for your 512 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 4: body to feel better and to function better. But like 513 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 4: most of us don't do it at all, ricey it's 514 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 4: just even stretching. How many people you think stretched during 515 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 4: the course of a day. But it could make your 516 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 4: life and your quality of life so much better if 517 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 4: you just stretch, Like take a good thirty forty minutes 518 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 4: to just stretch. So yoga is man telling you people 519 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 4: don't do it. But anyway, yeah, you always cockupuncture definitely 520 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 4: is a vibe. 521 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: Like you always give the sight out of those weirdos 522 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 1: at the yoga studio next door. 523 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 4: No, I don't I give a sad aye, so they 524 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 4: don't think I'm looking Yeah that catfish at that flounder eye. 525 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd be straight ahead. Yeah, staring, but. 526 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 8: Uh, by the way, we are all hot there. 527 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 3: Way. 528 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 1: We are going to to have another edition of The 529 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: Leftovers coming up here in about twelve minutes from now 530 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: here on FSRT is two Pros and a Cup of Joe. 531 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 3: Here. 532 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington Jonas knocks with you, Aaron Rodgers. 533 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: As we mentioned in our Picks against the Spread, one 534 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: of the games that we picked was the Packers at 535 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: the Steelers. This is Aaron rodgers first opportunity to see 536 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: his former team, the Green Bay Packers, although it's going 537 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: to be a home there at speaking of acupuncture at 538 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: Akroscher Stadium there in Pittsburgh, Aaron Rodgers did say and 539 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: pointed out that his career it started in Green Bay, 540 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: and you bet your ass that's where it's going to 541 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: finish up. 542 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 5: I feel so good about my time, man, because the 543 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:15,959 Speaker 5: in there. 544 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 2: Everything great in my life is because of you know, 545 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 2: my football career, and my football career starts. 546 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 5: And we're in one day with with Green Bay. 547 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 6: So we got a lot of love for all those 548 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 6: memories and a lot of great friends still carry with 549 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 6: me to this day. 550 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 5: See, so there's always hope you could go back to Washington. 551 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 4: No, that's a Hall of Fame goat football player for 552 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 4: that organization. I don't that wasn't my that wasn't in 553 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 4: my cards. 554 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: How do you feel about how do you feel about 555 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: the one day contract and retiring with the team. 556 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 4: I think the sentimental value for those who have had 557 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 4: the type of careers that a guy like like Brian 558 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 4: Mitchell did that to retire as a commander. 559 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 5: Is he going to get in the Hall of Fame 560 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 5: this year? He's up again. He should get then. I 561 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 5: don't understand why he hasn't gotten in. Hey, Devin Hester 562 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 5: got him? Was it last year? 563 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? 564 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 4: But what I'm saying a little bit, I mean hopefully 565 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 4: hopefully it does. Uh but yeah, you know, I don't know, man, 566 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know. 567 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 5: I just you know, I don't I don't have any 568 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 5: real feeling just uh. 569 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: Because Rogers made a point to say it's not really 570 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: a revenge game. He doesn't have anything, you know, against 571 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: the Packers organization. It's like he's getting further away from 572 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: those feelings. Like time tends to like numb the pain 573 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: or dull it a little bit. 574 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 4: But he's bro that's cap he wants to destroy the 575 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 4: Green Bay Packers, and I'm sure he'll say it after 576 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 4: the game is over. Whatever, Maybe he'll be more measured 577 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,719 Speaker 4: because he is getting closer to the end of his 578 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 4: career and he's certainly not going to relate to any 579 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 4: of these teams he's with, like especially the Jets. Now, 580 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 4: I will say maybe with the Steelers stupid, that's my algorithm. 581 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 4: Maybe with the Steelers, depending on how this season goes 582 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 4: or how long he stays with them. But what we 583 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 4: give them three years tops, two years tops, what is it? 584 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:20,239 Speaker 5: I don't know. 585 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 4: I just don't think that right with any one of 586 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 4: these these either or Jets and Pittsburgh, that that will 587 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 4: be his community once he retires. It's one hundred percent 588 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 4: Green Bay, and so this makes sense to be measured 589 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 4: in what you say and maybe even start to create 590 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 4: some connection back to the Green Bay you know, Packer's community. 591 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 4: I mean, they still love them. If you talk to 592 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 4: any Green Bay fan, he didn't. Generally speaking, Green Bay 593 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 4: fans have no beef with Aaron Rodgers because they feel 594 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 4: like it wasn't on him. You know, some people feel 595 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 4: like you know, but a lot of people are still 596 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 4: big fans far Green Bay Packer farv. 597 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: Was different because he then he went and played in 598 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: Minnesota and it was like, all right, that's that's an 599 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: art tribal, you know, why would you go back there? 600 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: But Rogers and I also think part of what helps 601 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: him not feel any sort of resentment towards the organization 602 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: is his time with the Jets. 603 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 5: Because of anything, I think. 604 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: His time with the Jets made him realize how good 605 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: he actually had it in Green Bay to where he's like, man, 606 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 1: I'm in a circus with a bunch of clowns. And 607 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: now he realized, because he's made mention of this, that 608 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh kind of reminds him a little bit like Green 609 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: Bay to where it's the rich tradition, the fan base, 610 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: how well run the organization is, and much like with 611 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: the Steelers and the fact that they've had you know, 612 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: three head coaches since the sixties. Dude, the Packers have 613 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: had three quarterbacks since the mid nineties, like they've had 614 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: thirty years of Hall of Fame level quarterback play. And 615 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: then it remains to be seen with Jordan Love. But 616 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: I think Rogers got to New York with the Jets 617 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: and he looked around and realized this place sucks and 618 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: it just made him appreciate what he had in Green 619 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: Bay more so, I'm not surprised that there's still fond 620 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: feelings on both sides between both them, because he had 621 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: a hell of a run there, man. And so apparently 622 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: he's going to see his former team this weekend, and 623 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: he's going to retire eventually as a member of that 624 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: former team at some point what he decides to call 625 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: it a career, which, by the way, if it does 626 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: continue to go the way it's gone this. 627 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 5: Year out for him and the Staylors, do you do 628 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 5: you think he would come back for another year. 629 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 4: He seems happy, and I think when you're happy, it 630 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 4: it creates a different level of okay once I hit 631 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 4: that offseason, is this something that I'm willing to invest 632 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 4: the time in to come back to? And I would 633 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 4: tend to say, I mean, he looks happy, which means 634 00:33:54,680 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 4: that maybe maybe there's the chance. Yeah, maybe there's the 635 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 4: chance maybe, but I don't give it pass. I do 636 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 4: not give it pass. Two to three, I would say 637 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 4: three tops, Yeah, I think that's a wrap on that. 638 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: By the way, get tools that perform at the highest 639 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 1: level on every job without compromise. 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We're going to 651 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 1: be back on the air, same time, same place, coming 652 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: up on Monday, six am Eastern time, three o'clock Pacific. 653 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,879 Speaker 1: By the way, if you've missed any of today's show 654 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,800 Speaker 1: you want to catch the podcast, just search Two Pros 655 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. Right after the show, today's 656 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: pot'll be posted. Be sure to follow the pod rated 657 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: five star ours, you can even provide a review. 658 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 5: Again. 659 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 1: Just search Two Pros wherever you get your podcast. You'll 660 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 1: find today's full show and a best of version posted 661 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 1: right after we get off the air. 662 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 3: Time to find out what's left incredible. 663 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 8: Here's the leftover, hy ray, Ray, what do we got? 664 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 11: I saw this really fun left over. 665 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 6: Today, the timber Wolves are bringing back their Prince jersey 666 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 6: and they're matching the court to it. 667 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,359 Speaker 11: I'm so excited. It looks so cool. 668 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,320 Speaker 6: It has purple accents and it has the Prince symbol 669 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 6: right in the center of the court for fun. 670 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 5: Purple rain on it. 671 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:37,800 Speaker 3: Purple rain. 672 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 5: Damn. 673 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 11: Do you see it, Jonas? It is so pretty damn. 674 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 6: And their jerseys are going, they're calling them it's for 675 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 6: their city edition. 676 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 11: That's when they'll be wearing the Princes. 677 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 8: Those are jerseys. 678 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 5: Those are brutal. 679 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:55,879 Speaker 11: You don't like it? No, Well, it's not exactly meant 680 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 11: for a vampire, so. 681 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 5: It's very purplely I don't. I don't know that that's 682 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 5: meant for a man. To be honest with you, thanks, 683 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 5: sometimes I look femin it. 684 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,439 Speaker 11: Well, you know, people said that about Prince all the time. 685 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 5: I'm looking at Prince. 686 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 11: You know, he was a ladies' man. 687 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,359 Speaker 4: I looked at him. Yeah, he was a man's man too. 688 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 4: Everybody looked that. I guess did he shop in that aisle? 689 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 4: I don't think so at all. I don't think so. 690 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,359 Speaker 4: He just had that look. Hell of a talent though, 691 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 4: I mean could be the most talented a legitimate Wolves fan, 692 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,279 Speaker 4: by the way, like really like they said, Cahoo, do 693 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 4: you remember the story from Charlie Murphy? 694 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 5: They said, that was a true story. 695 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 6: Well, if you want to see them debut it, it's 696 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 6: going to be November fifteenth on their Prince themed night 697 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:53,400 Speaker 6: at the Target Center. 698 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 11: So make sure you watch that. 699 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 8: Boy who knows, maybe maybe some people have money on. 700 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 5: That game, They said, Crossover Gay was serious. 701 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,240 Speaker 11: Yes, snaps. 702 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:06,359 Speaker 5: All right. 703 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 6: NHL player of the Columbus Blue Jackets Miles Wood, while 704 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,359 Speaker 6: playing and protecting the goal, he took a stick up 705 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 6: to his left eye. He immediately dropped down to the ice. 706 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 6: He had to ask his trainer if he still had 707 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,280 Speaker 6: his left eye. 708 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 11: He said he could only see out of the right one. 709 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 6: He needed eight stitches, four on the side of his 710 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 6: eye and four across the bridge of his nose. 711 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 11: He also had to sleep sitting up for a. 712 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 8: Week straight, so he still had the eye. 713 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,320 Speaker 6: Yes, he's been out for ten days, but when he 714 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,240 Speaker 6: looks down into the left it's just black. 715 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,720 Speaker 11: He can only see shadows. He can't see anything. 716 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 5: That's brutal by the way, sleeping upright, not that bad. 717 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 11: Oh I hate it. I can't do it. 718 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 5: I could do it on an airplane, yeah, very easily. Yeah. 719 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 5: And I could do it in a rocking chair. 720 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 1: What else, and a sweet recliner and a nice recliner recliner. 721 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, you could do. 722 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,760 Speaker 1: It airport and if you have one of those airplane pillows, 723 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,839 Speaker 1: those ones that wrap around your neck, the neck roll. 724 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 5: Yeah. 725 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 6: Now I'm curious though, this man thought he had his 726 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,359 Speaker 6: eyeball in his hand at one point. 727 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, right, I might have had to 728 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 5: put it back in. 729 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:20,879 Speaker 9: Look. 730 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 6: Uh and I just thought about the hockey game. What 731 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 6: was it a year and a half, two years ago 732 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 6: where the man got his next Like, it's such a 733 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 6: dangerous set. 734 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: Happened back in like the nineties, some guy, I think 735 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 1: maybe for the Islanders or somebody like that. 736 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, skate came. 737 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 1: Up and that's why, that's why they started having those 738 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,479 Speaker 1: extensions on the bottom of the goalie mass that would 739 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 1: cover their necks because these guys, you know, you you 740 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 1: you lose your skate, next thing you know, you're coming 741 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 1: up and you're not intentionally trying to gash somebody's neck. 742 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:54,839 Speaker 4: And nonetheless you can gash it, yeah, wild. 743 00:38:54,719 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 6: Wild actually do speaking of eyeball in your You know, 744 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,880 Speaker 6: pickleball is an up and coming sport. 745 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 5: Is it still up in coming? 746 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 11: Yes, and more people, which. 747 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,360 Speaker 6: Is why there's an increase in pickleball eye injuries. 748 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 5: What wow. 749 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 8: Yes. 750 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 6: Approximately twenty million Americans choose to play that low impact, 751 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 6: and a lot of them are over the age of fifty, 752 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 6: so they have. Last year they saw over twelve hundred 753 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:27,280 Speaker 6: eye injuries, including retinal detachment orbital fractures, and the doctors 754 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 6: are cautioning older players to be cautious because they could 755 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 6: suffer from vision loss if they get. 756 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:32,319 Speaker 8: Hurt hard enough. 757 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 5: What it hit hard enough? 758 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 11: Art hit injured? 759 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 1: Talk about an injury you can't brag about, sad man 760 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 1: that that's a nasty, nasty cut there? Where'd you get 761 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 1: that from pickleball? 762 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 4: You ever heard the way that sounds coming off of 763 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 4: the racket. It has the most repulsive sound. It's coming 764 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:51,319 Speaker 4: off of the rack. 765 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:56,879 Speaker 1: My neighbor plays it against the wall of her garage NonStop, 766 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 1: and my son couldn't figure out what it was. And 767 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,799 Speaker 1: then he comes out and he's just watching her, and 768 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 1: I could just see even at four years old, the 769 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 1: disgust he had. 770 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,279 Speaker 5: That's what that sound was. And it wasn't even for 771 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 5: anything cool. 772 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,840 Speaker 1: It's not even like hitting a speedbag or anything or 773 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 1: not literally just like. 774 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 5: A pa it's a repulsive noise. 775 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,760 Speaker 4: I can't stand away a pickleball sounds coming off the racket, 776 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 4: I can't. I can't stand it. It's ridiculous. But I'm 777 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 4: okay with ping pong and I'm okay with tennis, but 778 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 4: the pickleball, I ain't with it. 779 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 8: Don't lose an eyeball, have a good weekend.