WEBVTT - WrestleMania weekend and backstage drama

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's get it going right here, right now.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Eyes up here, and you're listening to check

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<v Speaker 1>it out on all new Eyes of here on the

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<v Speaker 1>Creative Control Network. If you didn't know by now, my

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<v Speaker 1>name is Shannon. Every single week I'm joined here, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>by the one and only trademark Queen of Extreme, Francine,

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<v Speaker 1>and we are coming to you live here in audio format,

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<v Speaker 1>live from my studio here in the lovely state of Virginia.

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<v Speaker 1>You're from an undisposed location somewhere from the Queen's castle

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<v Speaker 1>in the trademark land of the Queen of Extreme. But

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<v Speaker 1>how the hell are you on this beautiful day we're recording?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing well? How about yourself? I'm just ducky. It's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of cold this morning. But really, you know, sun's out,

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<v Speaker 1>guns out. You know, I'm locking and loading. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>as we're getting recorded, you know, you're you're quieting the

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<v Speaker 1>people in your house. I've been dealing with the friggin

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<v Speaker 1>cat sitting at the top of the damn steps over here,

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<v Speaker 1>crying for the last two to three days, like I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to come down. We don't let the cat in

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<v Speaker 1>the basement, but holy shit, is it fucking annoying. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the language, the language. No, the cat's annoying as hell.

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<v Speaker 1>It's sitting at the top of the steps going do

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<v Speaker 1>you think the cats in heat or she's fixed. She's

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<v Speaker 1>just crying. Oh okay, so she's she just wants to

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<v Speaker 1>come downstairs and play. Yeah, but she can't because she I,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like, my stuff are right and my statues,

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<v Speaker 1>I got my stuff and she climbs on it, so

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<v Speaker 1>she can't come down. But yeah, oh my god, she's

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<v Speaker 1>annoying the ship. I'm trying to get my stuff done.

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<v Speaker 1>And then here is are you logging her yet? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you a petner? Are you holding her? I go up

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<v Speaker 1>and I give her. I show her the the You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the I'm the dominant person in the house, so

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<v Speaker 1>she I show her. You know that I'm the dominant

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<v Speaker 1>male in the house. You're the only mail in the house. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know. Survival of the Fittest. That's why you have

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<v Speaker 1>that title, because the only I know I know what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on with you. This This is a kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a quiet week for me. You know, I am not

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<v Speaker 1>booked this weekend. This is the Russell Con weekend. By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, uh weekend weekend I usually go to Wrestle Khan,

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<v Speaker 1>but I opted not to go this year only because

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<v Speaker 1>California is very far and I would have spent like

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<v Speaker 1>two days traveling and three days actually working, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was five days is way too long to be away,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, from my situation, so I opted to skip

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend. Now. The following weekend after that is Squared Circle,

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<v Speaker 1>which I had booked months and months and months before.

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, my mom kind of started with her

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<v Speaker 1>decline and that's I'm going to be away like four days, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But I had already booked it and I'm kind of

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<v Speaker 1>locked in, so I couldn't renege on that one. So

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<v Speaker 1>I have to go to that one. But Wrestle Khan,

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<v Speaker 1>I was just kind of like, I don't think I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go. So I talked to a couple of my

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<v Speaker 1>friends who are heading out there today, and I hope

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<v Speaker 1>everybody has a great weekend. I hope it's very successful

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<v Speaker 1>for everyone involved. Are you gonna watch WrestleMania. I will

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<v Speaker 1>check out WrestleMania at some point. I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>fall into it like I did with the Royal Rumble,

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<v Speaker 1>because I know that since it's too I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>eight hours of time to spend watching WrestleMania. That's like

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<v Speaker 1>a shift of work if you're going to watch WrestleMania.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll check out. I definitely want to see the

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<v Speaker 1>Cody Roman match for sure, and we'll talk about something

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<v Speaker 1>with WrestleMania relations in a couple of minutes. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>really it. I mean, I guess I'm invested enough in

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<v Speaker 1>this usso's Sammy's ay and Kevin Owen's storyline. I'll check

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<v Speaker 1>that out. Yeah, that's about it. There's really nothing else

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<v Speaker 1>popping off the page for me. Gotcha understood. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>won't watch, but I'll look at clips and highlights and

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<v Speaker 1>read and see what's going on. And I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a magical time of year though. It's like Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>for a wrestling fan, you know it is. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's lost a little bit. I feel like, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is a weird one because, you know, is this a

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<v Speaker 1>Vince mcmahonless WrestleMania for the first time? This be a

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<v Speaker 1>better WrestleMania. Maybe I gotta say the jury's out on

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<v Speaker 1>Triple H you know, not that everybody's crying for Vince

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<v Speaker 1>McMahon to come back. But the jury's out on Triple

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<v Speaker 1>H talking when this first all went down and Triple

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<v Speaker 1>H gained power and the ratings went up, right, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to say through the roof, but the ratings

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<v Speaker 1>continued to climb when Triple H got control and people

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<v Speaker 1>were coming back. We were sitting here saying, this is

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<v Speaker 1>so great for the business and for WWE, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>such a good thing, And now you're telling me not

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<v Speaker 1>so good. No, they're still rewriting shows like at the

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<v Speaker 1>last minute. You know, they don't know what they're doing,

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<v Speaker 1>if they're coming or going right. They've done that for years. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but it seemed like they were going in a little

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<v Speaker 1>more of a structured direction and it just doesn't seem

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<v Speaker 1>way anymore. All the guys that he brought back seemingly

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<v Speaker 1>have done absolutely nothing with you know, It's like, what

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<v Speaker 1>was the point of rehiring all those folks. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>great for them, they got a paycheck and a steady income,

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<v Speaker 1>but creatively, you know, there's guys that just got taken

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<v Speaker 1>off that I guess indie scene and could have been

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<v Speaker 1>working more regularly and getting better instead of just doing

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<v Speaker 1>the old showing up the TV and not working and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe just being in a backstage segment. And I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but it seems like this the jury's still out. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is Triple H's WrestleMania test. Is Vince gonna be there?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure in some capacity, But you know, the Hall

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<v Speaker 1>of Fame was like a big deal. It's very small

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<v Speaker 1>this year compared to previous years. And we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>the Hall of Fame with so Calval a couple of weeks. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so much controversy, a lot of controversy. And then, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the Stacey Keebler reveal come out, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>about a week ago, and it's so nice to see

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<v Speaker 1>like how she settled into post celebrity life. Yeah, she

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<v Speaker 1>looks lovely. I mean I saw a picture of her

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<v Speaker 1>walking with her three children. Beautiful family, seems to have

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<v Speaker 1>a great husband, you know, good honor. It's great. I

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<v Speaker 1>love success stories in wrestling. I love the positive pieces.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I never really gave my two cents worth.

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<v Speaker 1>I sat here and I listened to Val talk about

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<v Speaker 1>Stacy and how she doesn't think she deserves it, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I kind of think she does deserve it.

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<v Speaker 1>If you look back on her career and what she

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<v Speaker 1>has done for the business. She was a very prominent

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<v Speaker 1>player in that era. Now I'm not saying, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>people say well this one deserves it more than this one,

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<v Speaker 1>or this one deserves to be in it before her,

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<v Speaker 1>because she did more than that. That's not the way

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<v Speaker 1>this hall of Fame goes. This isn't your typical hall

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<v Speaker 1>of fame. We've discussed this. This is like who they

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<v Speaker 1>think will help them benefit, what names will draw, what

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<v Speaker 1>names will sell tickets. I feel like Stacy, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>she was a very very prominent figure in the era

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<v Speaker 1>that she worked in. And I told this story before.

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<v Speaker 1>When she first started in the business, she was trying

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<v Speaker 1>out to be a nitro girl. And I had saw

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<v Speaker 1>I was at the Baltimore Airport ide layover coming from

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<v Speaker 1>a long ECW trip, and I had my big ECW

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<v Speaker 1>jacket on and she walked over. She was with her

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<v Speaker 1>mom and dad at the time. She walked over to

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<v Speaker 1>me and she tapped me on the shoulder and she said,

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<v Speaker 1>do you work for ECW. I said, well, yes, I do,

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<v Speaker 1>and I introduced myself to her and she told me,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, she was just starting with WCW. She said,

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<v Speaker 1>all I want to do is dance. That's what she

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<v Speaker 1>That was the one line I'll never forget out of her. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to dance. All I want to do

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<v Speaker 1>is dance. And I told her, You're going to do

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<v Speaker 1>much more than dance. Believe me, I said, they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to use you for a lot more than dancing. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was right. Do other people deserve it, absolutely do

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<v Speaker 1>and hopefully they'll get the call. But I feel, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Stacy has contributed a lot to the business

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<v Speaker 1>as a managers, as just a you know, a female,

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody knows who she is. Everybody who's a wrestling

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<v Speaker 1>fan knows who she is, and I'm happy for She

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<v Speaker 1>accepted it graciously. She, like you said, she has moved on.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if she acts anymore. I really haven't

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<v Speaker 1>heard much from her. There was an article up and

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<v Speaker 1>she hadn't even been on her Twitter in years, and

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<v Speaker 1>she popped up to just say, you know, thank you WWE,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, I'm happy to reconnect with you guys

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. So I'm happy for her, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>And again it's a positive story. She has a great

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<v Speaker 1>life and I love seeing that for people in the

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<v Speaker 1>wrestling business because too many times people get caught up

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<v Speaker 1>in the wrong things and we've lost so many of

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<v Speaker 1>our you know, dear friends and family because of it,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just nice to see a positive piece. Tory

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<v Speaker 1>Wilson also same era as Stacey Keebler in WWE Hall Fame. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to also give them that little asterisk. Even

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<v Speaker 1>though they came through that WWE Diva era, they did

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<v Speaker 1>break in in WCW YEP during a quite tumultuous era

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<v Speaker 1>where you kind of got an education pretty quick because

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<v Speaker 1>there was a lot of politics going on and you

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<v Speaker 1>had to get kind of learn on the fly as

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<v Speaker 1>to what was going on from a business point of view.

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<v Speaker 1>So whether or not she just wanted to dance, she

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<v Speaker 1>was thrust pretty quick into having to deal with sharks,

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<v Speaker 1>having to deal with, you know, getting into storylines, having

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<v Speaker 1>to learn. She went from Miss Hancock the standards and

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<v Speaker 1>practices to I don't know if they changed her. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think she was Stacy Keebler there. I think she

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<v Speaker 1>was just Miss Hancock but standards and practice to stripping

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<v Speaker 1>and this and that. So they kind of threw her

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<v Speaker 1>straight to the wolves and she contributed a lot to

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<v Speaker 1>the end of WCW. So just that WWE Diva era

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<v Speaker 1>where she's a Hall of Famer. She broke in at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the nineties in WCW, so it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like it's one small piece of time. It is that

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<v Speaker 1>tail end of the Attitude era. It's it's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more than just that two thousand's you know, ruthless aggression

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<v Speaker 1>Diva era. Yeah, and I remember when she came on

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<v Speaker 1>the scene. I believe I was at UH. I was

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<v Speaker 1>watching Paul edit the show for the week, the ECW show.

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<v Speaker 1>We were up in Scarsdale and uh, I think we

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<v Speaker 1>might have had nightro on and Stacy was on and

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<v Speaker 1>Paul said, if I can get one girl, that would

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<v Speaker 1>be the girl to bring over to ECW. He wanted

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<v Speaker 1>Stacy Keebler. I remember him saying that, and could never

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<v Speaker 1>get her. And guess what after the the tail end

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<v Speaker 1>of the Alliance era, she was paired with the Dudleys, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>saying that if I had my pick out of all

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<v Speaker 1>the girls that we don't have, I picked Stacy Keebler.

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<v Speaker 1>So there you go, and there you go. Maybe I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, so hall of Famer. We talked about it

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<v Speaker 1>a few weeks ago with so cal val and now

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<v Speaker 1>cemented in the Hall of Fame and equals cash everything.

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<v Speaker 1>There are so many people who are Hall of Fame

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<v Speaker 1>worthy out there that have not gotten in yet, but

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they will, you know. But for me, like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna crap on somebody because somebody else didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>in before them. She didn't sit on her on her

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<v Speaker 1>hands and do nothing. She she did what she was

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<v Speaker 1>told to do. She was over, she took the bumps,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, she helped get guys over. I think she's

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame worthy. So there you go. That's my

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<v Speaker 1>two cents. People can argue with me all they want.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care. I do agree that there's others that

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<v Speaker 1>deserve it as well, but maybe everybody will get their turn,

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<v Speaker 1>who knows. But again it's not the typical Hall of Fame,

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<v Speaker 1>so you have to keep that in mind as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And the chatter will begin because next year WrestleMania is

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<v Speaker 1>in Philadelphia, So get ready because the WrestleMania experience hits

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<v Speaker 1>the Philadelphia area and I've already talked about with a

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<v Speaker 1>couple people that you know, the rumblings will begin probably

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<v Speaker 1>around January that hey, if they're gonna do it as

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<v Speaker 1>a group. Who would represent the group? If they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>pick and choose, who are they gonna pick and choose?

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<v Speaker 1>Probably not. Is there a default couple that they pick.

0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:30.720
<v Speaker 1>That's the maybe logical guest that they would do that.

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<v Speaker 1>But are they just going to umbrella? You know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>the umbrella. We're just gonna lump everybody under that umbrella,

0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:41.080
<v Speaker 1>and then everybody who ever worked for the company says, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>now I'm a Hall of Famer. Yeah, no, I don't care.

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<v Speaker 1>How about this picture. I just found this as I

0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:52.080
<v Speaker 1>was scrolling through Twitter just casually. Here's a picture of

0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:57.040
<v Speaker 1>the Hall of Famer with the Dudleys. That's a great picture.

0:14:57.920 --> 0:15:01.240
<v Speaker 1>I like that picture a lot. I could see your picks.

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<v Speaker 1>I can see you doing with the tag titles as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So there that's a place I did Queen's book. I

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<v Speaker 1>did that with the television championship. That's right, you did.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go. Before this picture was taken, I took

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<v Speaker 1>one with a belt, So there you go. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>as we say, the would be, we did it first,

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<v Speaker 1>So there you go. But you know, we'll kind of

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<v Speaker 1>stay with that and uh, we'll kind of keeping the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the w w E. Diva Era somebody who

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<v Speaker 1>you you know, you worked with in the news recently,

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<v Speaker 1>uh for different not not Hall of Fame news, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, personal news. Uh. Kelly, Kelly Barbie Blank announces

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<v Speaker 1>that she is expecting her first child. This story behind

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<v Speaker 1>it is that she had like a very tumultuous time

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<v Speaker 1>getting there and had a very very tough time ut

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<v Speaker 1>ivf battle you know, for years to get to this point.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'll let you talk about it. But I was

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<v Speaker 1>just surprised with how much coverage there was because it's

0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:13.080
<v Speaker 1>like a very personal thing, but it was like a story. Yes, yeah, Well,

0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:17.760
<v Speaker 1>she miscarried. She had a miscarriage a little bit ago,

0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:22.600
<v Speaker 1>and like you said, she'd been trying for a very

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<v Speaker 1>long time. From what I understood when I met her,

0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:30.960
<v Speaker 1>she was nineteen at the time, knew nothing about the business,

0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:35.920
<v Speaker 1>as green as grass, sweetest little thing, and you know,

0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:38.280
<v Speaker 1>we traveled together, and we roomed together a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>times and stuff, and she would always tell me like,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to be a mom, I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to have a baby. At nineteen she was saying this,

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<v Speaker 1>really yeah, And because I was dating my husband at

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<v Speaker 1>the time when I was working there, and you know,

0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:59.720
<v Speaker 1>being much older. I was about fifteen years older, I

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<v Speaker 1>belie than her. I was good lore thirty four years old.

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<v Speaker 1>She was only nineteen. So she would say to me like,

0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:09.520
<v Speaker 1>do you think you're gonna get married? And I was like,

0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:12.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, maybe you know, and She's just like, yeah,

0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:14.119
<v Speaker 1>that's what I want to do. I want to settle down,

0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:17.240
<v Speaker 1>get married and have kids. And that's what I remember

0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:20.439
<v Speaker 1>from her the most is just her wanting to be

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<v Speaker 1>a mom. So when I saw that she was pregnant finally,

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<v Speaker 1>I was elated for her super super happy and beautiful

0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:32.240
<v Speaker 1>pictures with her and her husband and her little baby bump.

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<v Speaker 1>I never did those pictures. I don't know, maybe because

0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:39.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm not like an ig kind of girl, Like I

0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:42.280
<v Speaker 1>don't like taking pictures of myself, but all these girls

0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:45.520
<v Speaker 1>are taking pictures of their bellies and these beautiful outfits.

0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:47.680
<v Speaker 1>I should have did something like that. I didn't take

0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:51.080
<v Speaker 1>any pictures. So I was just like, Oh, I'm as

0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:54.480
<v Speaker 1>big as Al's. I don't want anyone to see me. Yeah,

0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:58.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm not my cup of teeth those kinds of pictures. Yeah,

0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:01.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't like this. No, no, I don't get it,

0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:05.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, and I watched like an Entertainment Tonight piece

0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:09.119
<v Speaker 1>about it, and that that was the thing that caught me. Yes,

0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:11.280
<v Speaker 1>and that's the thing that kind of caught me off guard.

0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:15.960
<v Speaker 1>And she's still being billed as a WWE superstar. And

0:18:16.080 --> 0:18:18.360
<v Speaker 1>I know she comes back for all of the events,

0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:21.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, the Raw twenty five, the Raw Super Show,

0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:23.800
<v Speaker 1>the Legends Night and all that stuff, but they're still

0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:27.080
<v Speaker 1>billing her as a WWE superstar. Now. I don't know

0:18:27.119 --> 0:18:29.359
<v Speaker 1>if she's gotten into acting at all or if she's

0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:32.680
<v Speaker 1>just a model on the side. And but I didn't

0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:36.320
<v Speaker 1>know she would still be like under the WWE family,

0:18:36.440 --> 0:18:38.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, I thought she had moved on completely. And

0:18:38.920 --> 0:18:41.800
<v Speaker 1>they're they're doing jokes on Entertainment Tonight saying, oh, maybe

0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:44.080
<v Speaker 1>this baby will be a future wrestler, ha ha. You

0:18:44.119 --> 0:18:47.280
<v Speaker 1>know what. I'm like, she's been gone for like ten

0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:51.560
<v Speaker 1>plus years. I wouldn't consider Kelly Kelly a wrestler anymore

0:18:51.840 --> 0:18:57.280
<v Speaker 1>by any stretch. I don't know, does she like I

0:18:57.840 --> 0:19:00.199
<v Speaker 1>don't know if she'd be under a Legends deal, But

0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:03.680
<v Speaker 1>is she under some kind of promotional deal with them?

0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:06.240
<v Speaker 1>I would guess she is if they. I mean, she's

0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:09.560
<v Speaker 1>been back for like the Women's Evolution event. They had

0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:12.720
<v Speaker 1>just got the Women's World Rumble, like two years she

0:19:12.800 --> 0:19:18.920
<v Speaker 1>was in the Women's World Rumble. Yeah, but like she's

0:19:19.000 --> 0:19:22.320
<v Speaker 1>not like on the independence scene now people remember her,

0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:26.280
<v Speaker 1>I guess for her, you know her run there and

0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:29.320
<v Speaker 1>Kelly Kelly was never like released from w w E

0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:32.640
<v Speaker 1>and then like you know at like Wrestle Pro and Rahway.

0:19:32.800 --> 0:19:36.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, she was not like on the on the

0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:39.879
<v Speaker 1>indie tour. But I do see her at conventions. I

0:19:39.880 --> 0:19:44.920
<v Speaker 1>have seen her at several conventions that I've done where

0:19:44.920 --> 0:19:49.679
<v Speaker 1>I got to chat with She's regular on the convention scenes. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty pretty, uh pretty high asking price there from uh

0:19:54.720 --> 0:19:57.400
<v Speaker 1>oh really from what I from what I know, there's

0:19:57.440 --> 0:20:02.600
<v Speaker 1>the picture from a pretty she looks a little different

0:20:02.680 --> 0:20:05.840
<v Speaker 1>from when she first broke onto the scene. Well, she's

0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:11.399
<v Speaker 1>older now and she looks beautiful, and I hope she

0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:16.480
<v Speaker 1>has a healthy, happy baby, and I'm very happy for her.

0:20:17.400 --> 0:20:21.040
<v Speaker 1>This guy's like, yeah, I did that. He's like I

0:20:21.040 --> 0:20:24.680
<v Speaker 1>got Kelly Kelly. Yeah, good for them. I'm very very

0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:28.120
<v Speaker 1>happy for them. And you know, nothing is worse than

0:20:29.400 --> 0:20:32.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, being a woman and yearning for a child

0:20:32.720 --> 0:20:37.480
<v Speaker 1>and not being able to conceive that is a terrible thing.

0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:40.920
<v Speaker 1>I know so many women who would cut off their

0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:43.560
<v Speaker 1>arm to have a baby and they just can't do it.

0:20:43.720 --> 0:20:47.320
<v Speaker 1>So when something like this happens, it's a huge blessing.

0:20:47.800 --> 0:20:51.760
<v Speaker 1>So I am really really happy for her, and you know,

0:20:52.160 --> 0:20:56.920
<v Speaker 1>it's motherhood's journey and she's got a lot in store

0:20:57.000 --> 0:20:58.960
<v Speaker 1>for her. But it's the best thing you can ever do.

0:20:59.200 --> 0:21:04.800
<v Speaker 1>So can Congratulations to Barbie and her husband from me. Yes,

0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:09.320
<v Speaker 1>congratulations to uh somebody who had a better shoot name

0:21:09.520 --> 0:21:12.679
<v Speaker 1>than a wrestling name, and that they should have started.

0:21:15.480 --> 0:21:17.760
<v Speaker 1>We all said that back in the day, like Barbie

0:21:17.800 --> 0:21:20.280
<v Speaker 1>Blank gets so much better than Kelly Kelly, Like what

0:21:20.359 --> 0:21:25.399
<v Speaker 1>the hell? But you know she got it. Yeah, it's funny.

0:21:25.400 --> 0:21:27.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, I've seen in the news. I thought I

0:21:27.560 --> 0:21:29.440
<v Speaker 1>saw her name pop up like a couple maybe like

0:21:29.480 --> 0:21:33.480
<v Speaker 1>a week or so ago, because the anniversary of test

0:21:33.680 --> 0:21:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Andrew Martin passing away would had just passed and she

0:21:37.600 --> 0:21:41.159
<v Speaker 1>had dated Andrew Martin, yeah, you know, way back in

0:21:41.200 --> 0:21:45.480
<v Speaker 1>the day. And uh, it's been quite a while since

0:21:45.520 --> 0:21:48.120
<v Speaker 1>he passed away, and I couldn't believe how long it's been.

0:21:48.160 --> 0:21:51.760
<v Speaker 1>It's been like fifteen sixteen years, and it's like, man,

0:21:52.320 --> 0:21:56.240
<v Speaker 1>he was so young that he was such a big dude,

0:21:56.280 --> 0:21:58.400
<v Speaker 1>and I was I was listening to Kevin Nash talk

0:21:58.440 --> 0:22:01.000
<v Speaker 1>about him, and I didn't know was really close with

0:22:01.080 --> 0:22:03.760
<v Speaker 1>him when he passed away, and Nash looked at him

0:22:03.760 --> 0:22:07.040
<v Speaker 1>as like a protege that he could have been like

0:22:07.359 --> 0:22:10.240
<v Speaker 1>the next Kevin Nash. Like Kevin Nash saw him as

0:22:10.320 --> 0:22:13.160
<v Speaker 1>like the guy who could have carried that big man

0:22:13.320 --> 0:22:17.960
<v Speaker 1>torch of like the attitude mixed with like the big

0:22:18.000 --> 0:22:21.359
<v Speaker 1>man you know, like that Nash has that that aura

0:22:21.720 --> 0:22:27.840
<v Speaker 1>and like you know, the cockiness that yeah, yeah, I got.

0:22:27.840 --> 0:22:30.200
<v Speaker 1>I always got along with Tests because you know, he

0:22:30.240 --> 0:22:33.240
<v Speaker 1>was he was there in the fakes. He dubb with me,

0:22:33.800 --> 0:22:36.040
<v Speaker 1>and I just wish we would have been able to

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<v Speaker 1>do the run that we were supposed to do together

0:22:39.480 --> 0:22:41.520
<v Speaker 1>because I just feel like that would have been money,

0:22:42.000 --> 0:22:46.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, like working together with him. Unfortunately we never

0:22:46.720 --> 0:22:48.600
<v Speaker 1>got to do it. But I always got along with

0:22:48.680 --> 0:22:50.720
<v Speaker 1>him in the back like he was. He was a

0:22:50.840 --> 0:22:55.840
<v Speaker 1>very nice guy. And you in balls with Tests, No, No,

0:22:55.960 --> 0:22:59.440
<v Speaker 1>I you with Tests. I was supposed to be with really,

0:23:00.040 --> 0:23:01.919
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah I told you this story. I don't remember this.

0:23:02.000 --> 0:23:04.200
<v Speaker 1>Remind me, No, I don't remember this at all. Yeah,

0:23:04.240 --> 0:23:08.520
<v Speaker 1>So When I first went there, the pitch was you're

0:23:08.560 --> 0:23:11.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna be put with somebody, you know, a top tier guy,

0:23:12.080 --> 0:23:14.760
<v Speaker 1>and they didn't tell me who before I signed my contract,

0:23:15.000 --> 0:23:17.439
<v Speaker 1>you know. So I signed the contract and then I

0:23:17.560 --> 0:23:20.040
<v Speaker 1>get there and then I'm hearing all this stuff, and

0:23:20.840 --> 0:23:24.280
<v Speaker 1>I was told, we're thinking about you and test together

0:23:24.320 --> 0:23:27.000
<v Speaker 1>as a monster Heel team. So I was just like,

0:23:27.040 --> 0:23:29.280
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I love it. And then I said

0:23:29.280 --> 0:23:32.000
<v Speaker 1>the test. Are you ready, like, you know, are you

0:23:32.040 --> 0:23:33.800
<v Speaker 1>ready to do this? He's like, oh, yeah, yeah, this

0:23:33.840 --> 0:23:36.199
<v Speaker 1>will be cool, blah blah blah, and then it just

0:23:36.400 --> 0:23:39.040
<v Speaker 1>never was brought up again. And I was just like,

0:23:40.240 --> 0:23:43.480
<v Speaker 1>what happened? And I wasn't pissing anybody off because I

0:23:43.520 --> 0:23:46.639
<v Speaker 1>hardly opened my mouth, Like I was just like, you know,

0:23:47.000 --> 0:23:49.080
<v Speaker 1>in the corner, reading my book, doing my thing, not

0:23:49.200 --> 0:23:52.120
<v Speaker 1>bothering anyone, So I know it wasn't me. I don't

0:23:52.119 --> 0:23:54.399
<v Speaker 1>think he had a problem with the angle, because he

0:23:54.480 --> 0:23:57.320
<v Speaker 1>seemed like he wanted to do something with, you know,

0:23:57.359 --> 0:24:01.040
<v Speaker 1>with it, but it just got scrapped for or whatever reason.

0:24:01.240 --> 0:24:03.440
<v Speaker 1>But I just in the back of my mind, I'm

0:24:03.480 --> 0:24:06.520
<v Speaker 1>just like, man, I wonder if we would have got over.

0:24:06.840 --> 0:24:09.440
<v Speaker 1>I think we would have I really think we would

0:24:09.480 --> 0:24:12.359
<v Speaker 1>have one hundred percent. That's what was missing in that

0:24:12.640 --> 0:24:15.320
<v Speaker 1>ECW because well, I remember I was in the building

0:24:15.359 --> 0:24:18.159
<v Speaker 1>the night he re debuted, and you looked at him

0:24:18.160 --> 0:24:19.919
<v Speaker 1>when he redbuted, and that's when they were kind of

0:24:19.920 --> 0:24:24.720
<v Speaker 1>starting to sprinkle the retread WWE guys in the ECW,

0:24:25.760 --> 0:24:28.560
<v Speaker 1>you know whatever, you want to call it, fake ECW,

0:24:28.840 --> 0:24:32.439
<v Speaker 1>ECW rebrand. When they were taking guys like Bob Holly

0:24:32.480 --> 0:24:34.199
<v Speaker 1>putting him in there, taking a guy like Tests and

0:24:34.200 --> 0:24:37.520
<v Speaker 1>putting him in there, and the fans were booing him

0:24:37.600 --> 0:24:39.919
<v Speaker 1>because it's like, oh, we've seen tests, we've seen him

0:24:39.920 --> 0:24:41.800
<v Speaker 1>in doun raw, we've seen him on some backdown. Now

0:24:41.800 --> 0:24:45.120
<v Speaker 1>he's here. You would have brought a new dimension to him.

0:24:45.440 --> 0:24:48.119
<v Speaker 1>That would have been really cool. That is a huge

0:24:48.200 --> 0:24:51.639
<v Speaker 1>missed opportunity. Yeah, I agree, And it was something I

0:24:51.680 --> 0:24:55.159
<v Speaker 1>really wanted to do, and just you know, I was

0:24:55.200 --> 0:24:58.639
<v Speaker 1>eager to just work with anyone. I didn't care, you know,

0:24:58.880 --> 0:25:00.560
<v Speaker 1>I didn't care who I worked with. And then when

0:25:00.560 --> 0:25:02.320
<v Speaker 1>they put me with Balls, I was like, Okay, this

0:25:02.400 --> 0:25:05.200
<v Speaker 1>is cool, he's my friend, you know. And then take

0:25:05.200 --> 0:25:09.639
<v Speaker 1>a drug test, way to go, Balls, he's out, and

0:25:09.680 --> 0:25:12.280
<v Speaker 1>then I'm alone again and they're they're like, oh, yeah,

0:25:12.320 --> 0:25:14.639
<v Speaker 1>we just we can't think of anything. I'm just like,

0:25:14.720 --> 0:25:18.520
<v Speaker 1>it's right under your nose, it's right there, you know.

0:25:18.760 --> 0:25:21.320
<v Speaker 1>But it's like talking to a wall when you work there.

0:25:21.400 --> 0:25:23.240
<v Speaker 1>So and that would have been that could have been

0:25:23.280 --> 0:25:26.680
<v Speaker 1>the storyline right there. You turn on balls your ECW

0:25:27.119 --> 0:25:30.119
<v Speaker 1>brother to go with tests, sitting right in front of them.

0:25:30.160 --> 0:25:33.840
<v Speaker 1>Then they just yeah, you're sleeping at the wheel, you know,

0:25:34.160 --> 0:25:36.800
<v Speaker 1>like they're known to do sometimes, Oh what can you do?

0:25:37.080 --> 0:25:41.399
<v Speaker 1>But you know, one of many misopportunities. I love the

0:25:41.440 --> 0:25:44.320
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0:25:44.440 --> 0:25:47.920
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0:25:48.080 --> 0:25:50.560
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0:25:50.600 --> 0:25:53.480
<v Speaker 1>about protecting my skin. With native sunscreen, I can give

0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:55.960
<v Speaker 1>my skin the protection it needs and soak up some

0:25:56.119 --> 0:25:59.920
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<v Speaker 1>is made with a twenty percent out of zinc oxide

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<v Speaker 1>that seal in skin moisture and is vegan and cruelty free.

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0:26:34.080 --> 0:26:38.000
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0:26:38.040 --> 0:26:41.240
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0:26:41.320 --> 0:26:45.280
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0:26:45.600 --> 0:26:48.080
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<v Speaker 1>fran scene or use promo code franccene. Speaking of missed opportunities.

0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:31.040
<v Speaker 1>There's an an odd opportunity for somebody. It's in a

0:27:31.119 --> 0:27:35.720
<v Speaker 1>company that's not WWE that I don't know if I

0:27:35.720 --> 0:27:38.560
<v Speaker 1>guess you'd be getting paid for it. But this is

0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:42.120
<v Speaker 1>a weird one, and we will talk about a missed

0:27:42.160 --> 0:27:47.880
<v Speaker 1>opportunity again for you in a crisscross company scenario. Christian

0:27:48.040 --> 0:27:51.720
<v Speaker 1>at WrestleMania. I don't know if I believe this one.

0:27:52.080 --> 0:27:57.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. If I'm Tony Kahan, why would I

0:27:58.040 --> 0:28:01.640
<v Speaker 1>let one of my top guys were for my rival promotion?

0:28:02.600 --> 0:28:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Why would I? It doesn't make sense to me unless

0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:12.960
<v Speaker 1>he Christian goes there with an ae W shirtle to

0:28:13.000 --> 0:28:16.200
<v Speaker 1>promote the company. But I don't see them agreeing to

0:28:16.359 --> 0:28:20.879
<v Speaker 1>something like that. So why would Tony let Christian work WrestleMania.

0:28:21.160 --> 0:28:26.840
<v Speaker 1>That's out there, man, that's like I don't know, but

0:28:26.840 --> 0:28:32.000
<v Speaker 1>but think about it. Mickey James went with a belt

0:28:32.119 --> 0:28:37.640
<v Speaker 1>for another company into WWE and worked her deal right

0:28:37.840 --> 0:28:42.640
<v Speaker 1>in the rumble, correct, So I mean, we never say never,

0:28:42.760 --> 0:28:48.080
<v Speaker 1>but this one, this one's a I don't know. I

0:28:48.080 --> 0:28:50.840
<v Speaker 1>don't know. What do you what do you think? I

0:28:50.880 --> 0:28:54.160
<v Speaker 1>don't think it's gonna happen. Okay, I do think we'll

0:28:54.160 --> 0:28:58.600
<v Speaker 1>see Gangrel because Gangrel seems to be just everywhere these days.

0:28:59.760 --> 0:29:02.880
<v Speaker 1>As told us, he's pretty much, you know, a vampire

0:29:02.960 --> 0:29:06.760
<v Speaker 1>who just will not live big lives forever. I think

0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:09.160
<v Speaker 1>it's very hard to believe, especially with the investment that

0:29:09.280 --> 0:29:11.239
<v Speaker 1>Tony Kahm put into Christian, who paid him a lot

0:29:11.280 --> 0:29:15.920
<v Speaker 1>of money to come from WWE to AW. Why would

0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:18.560
<v Speaker 1>you want to enhance their biggest show of the year

0:29:18.600 --> 0:29:22.120
<v Speaker 1>with a guy you invested that much money into only

0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:26.960
<v Speaker 1>what two three years later? That makes no business sense whatsoever.

0:29:27.960 --> 0:29:31.520
<v Speaker 1>As cool as it would be, I could be off

0:29:31.600 --> 0:29:34.360
<v Speaker 1>the mark on this one, but I just can't see

0:29:34.400 --> 0:29:38.600
<v Speaker 1>Tony agreeing to this unless he gets something out of it.

0:29:40.120 --> 0:29:42.520
<v Speaker 1>What is AW going to get out of it? Are

0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:47.440
<v Speaker 1>they going to put over the rival promotion on WrestleMania.

0:29:47.640 --> 0:29:49.760
<v Speaker 1>I can't see that happening. I don't see it either.

0:29:50.640 --> 0:29:54.680
<v Speaker 1>That's a weird one. This is I don't know who

0:29:54.760 --> 0:29:58.840
<v Speaker 1>started this one, but it's interesting. It is interesting because

0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:02.080
<v Speaker 1>there's the rumblings of the Brood reunion, you know, the

0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:06.800
<v Speaker 1>darkness of the finn Balor group mixed with the darkness

0:30:06.800 --> 0:30:10.520
<v Speaker 1>of Edge and the Brood makes sense. It's there. It's

0:30:10.840 --> 0:30:15.200
<v Speaker 1>absolutely logical, but it's not because if one of the

0:30:15.200 --> 0:30:19.040
<v Speaker 1>guys is in the other promotion, it just can't happen.

0:30:19.080 --> 0:30:24.920
<v Speaker 1>Now Wwe did send Christian again to Impact for an

0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:28.600
<v Speaker 1>anniversary show, but all he did was present like an

0:30:28.640 --> 0:30:32.440
<v Speaker 1>award right in uttle and he was out there for

0:30:32.640 --> 0:30:39.680
<v Speaker 1>about a minute. Well, I mean, I look stranger. Things

0:30:39.680 --> 0:30:42.640
<v Speaker 1>have happened in this business. You never say never, like

0:30:42.680 --> 0:30:45.920
<v Speaker 1>I said earlier, but if this does happen, I will

0:30:46.720 --> 0:30:51.680
<v Speaker 1>really be shocked. I will be shocked. Like I would say,

0:30:51.920 --> 0:30:54.840
<v Speaker 1>he has to wear an AW shirt. He has there

0:30:54.880 --> 0:30:57.120
<v Speaker 1>has been the Brood. He can't wear an AW shirt

0:30:57.440 --> 0:31:00.160
<v Speaker 1>that he has to have some branding on him so

0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:03.760
<v Speaker 1>that company gets something out of his appearance. Are they

0:31:03.800 --> 0:31:07.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna on commentary? Are they gonna say, oh, it's it's

0:31:07.280 --> 0:31:12.720
<v Speaker 1>Christian from ae W. He's a ladies and that's that's

0:31:12.760 --> 0:31:15.400
<v Speaker 1>what it would have to be. They're not gonna do it.

0:31:15.480 --> 0:31:19.520
<v Speaker 1>They can't do that cause he comes out as if

0:31:19.520 --> 0:31:21.760
<v Speaker 1>they do the Brood thing and he is there when

0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:25.720
<v Speaker 1>we could eat our hats. If that's the case, he

0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:28.400
<v Speaker 1>would be wearing the Brood gimmick with the white shirt

0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:31.160
<v Speaker 1>and the sun aw acrust, the ruffles on the way

0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:34.240
<v Speaker 1>and Corey Graves, who likes to throw monikers out there

0:31:34.360 --> 0:31:38.959
<v Speaker 1>very loosely, he would say something like it's it's Gangrel,

0:31:39.160 --> 0:31:42.320
<v Speaker 1>it's Edge, and the one who's the elite member of

0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:45.880
<v Speaker 1>the brood, it's Christian. You know, I don't know. I

0:31:45.880 --> 0:31:50.120
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I just feel like I feel like ae

0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:54.160
<v Speaker 1>W needs to get something out of that appearance. They

0:31:54.320 --> 0:31:57.920
<v Speaker 1>need to be recognized. That's the only like, if I

0:31:57.960 --> 0:31:59.880
<v Speaker 1>was Tony, that's the only way I'd let him do it,

0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:04.120
<v Speaker 1>because if they put him over as somebody from AW.

0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:08.800
<v Speaker 1>So let me ask you this. So let's go back

0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:13.600
<v Speaker 1>to what we talked about a million times ECW on RAW. Okay,

0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:17.760
<v Speaker 1>so obviously that was a conjoint that was a conjoint appearance,

0:32:17.880 --> 0:32:21.960
<v Speaker 1>that was a to promote barely legal Okay, it made sense,

0:32:22.400 --> 0:32:24.960
<v Speaker 1>you got, but you weren't there. We've talked about it.

0:32:24.960 --> 0:32:28.240
<v Speaker 1>It's on the YouTube channel, it's it's it's something that

0:32:28.760 --> 0:32:31.440
<v Speaker 1>you were not happy about because Shane did not want

0:32:31.480 --> 0:32:35.880
<v Speaker 1>to go. Yeah, okay, what what would have been the

0:32:36.000 --> 0:32:40.160
<v Speaker 1>more impactful moment Shane walking out on Monday Night Raw

0:32:40.360 --> 0:32:43.320
<v Speaker 1>or with all the heat that Shane had with the

0:32:43.400 --> 0:32:47.640
<v Speaker 1>WWF and everybody involved with the WWF and Vince or

0:32:47.800 --> 0:32:52.200
<v Speaker 1>Christian walking out on a WrestleMania being involved with AW

0:32:52.240 --> 0:32:55.000
<v Speaker 1>that's only been around for two or three years. What

0:32:55.120 --> 0:32:57.960
<v Speaker 1>would be a more impactful moment, you guys stepping through

0:32:58.000 --> 0:33:01.240
<v Speaker 1>that r AW the two of you, or Christian coming

0:33:01.320 --> 0:33:04.600
<v Speaker 1>up with that smoke and that fire with you know,

0:33:04.680 --> 0:33:06.880
<v Speaker 1>being involved with AW. What what do you think some

0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:13.080
<v Speaker 1>more impactful kind of like shockers promoter? I think for

0:33:13.320 --> 0:33:19.840
<v Speaker 1>me thinking back Shane and Vince, there was always some

0:33:20.000 --> 0:33:23.080
<v Speaker 1>heat there, right. I don't know if Christian has any

0:33:23.120 --> 0:33:27.480
<v Speaker 1>heat with the company, with with w w E. I

0:33:27.480 --> 0:33:29.479
<v Speaker 1>don't know if he left on good terms. I mean

0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:32.240
<v Speaker 1>people leave all the time, back and forth for money reasons.

0:33:33.800 --> 0:33:38.240
<v Speaker 1>Shane was different. There was like there was this heat

0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:41.680
<v Speaker 1>that they didn't like each other, and you know, Shane

0:33:41.760 --> 0:33:47.240
<v Speaker 1>has a tendency to bury people in public a little bit,

0:33:47.560 --> 0:33:51.640
<v Speaker 1>just a little bit, you know, so that it's it's

0:33:51.680 --> 0:33:56.080
<v Speaker 1>like it's a different dynamic when you know it's behind

0:33:56.120 --> 0:34:00.840
<v Speaker 1>the scenes the politics you're going on in one case

0:34:00.920 --> 0:34:02.680
<v Speaker 1>and maybe in the other case it was just like,

0:34:02.720 --> 0:34:05.560
<v Speaker 1>well he left for more money, you know, maybe there's

0:34:05.560 --> 0:34:09.160
<v Speaker 1>no bad blood with Christian. There was certain certainly bad

0:34:09.200 --> 0:34:13.279
<v Speaker 1>blood with Shane, so you would never expect Shane to

0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:18.120
<v Speaker 1>walk through that door. So I feel like that would

0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:22.040
<v Speaker 1>be a bigger shock because for somebody to keep saying,

0:34:22.080 --> 0:34:24.040
<v Speaker 1>I'll never work for him again, I'll never go back,

0:34:24.080 --> 0:34:26.360
<v Speaker 1>I'll never do this, and then you see them, it's like,

0:34:27.400 --> 0:34:31.919
<v Speaker 1>holy shit, where'd he come from? Whereas Christian? Oh wow,

0:34:32.000 --> 0:34:36.120
<v Speaker 1>it's Christian. He's getting a payday, he's working WrestleMania. I

0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:42.279
<v Speaker 1>don't hear Christian badmouthing WWE, right, I don't think there's

0:34:42.320 --> 0:34:45.440
<v Speaker 1>any bad blood between them. I kind of think that

0:34:45.520 --> 0:34:54.000
<v Speaker 1>they just parted ways for money reasons. Correct. So to me,

0:34:54.239 --> 0:34:57.320
<v Speaker 1>it would be somebody, whether it be Shane or whether

0:34:57.360 --> 0:35:04.279
<v Speaker 1>it be anyone who has heat, walking back into that company. Yeah. No,

0:35:04.440 --> 0:35:07.600
<v Speaker 1>I think that in that long run, even though aw

0:35:07.800 --> 0:35:12.839
<v Speaker 1>is what it is, that ECWWWF crossover to this day,

0:35:13.040 --> 0:35:17.719
<v Speaker 1>is still going to be the biggest, I think shocking

0:35:18.239 --> 0:35:22.680
<v Speaker 1>moment in wrestling history. To see ECW crossover that line

0:35:22.840 --> 0:35:25.279
<v Speaker 1>and come into the ww F ring is still to

0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:27.880
<v Speaker 1>me the most shocking thing ever. Now, it'll be cool

0:35:27.920 --> 0:35:33.239
<v Speaker 1>if Christian is there and that AWWWE crossover happens. It's

0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:36.720
<v Speaker 1>cool to me, It'll always be the fact, like Raven

0:35:36.800 --> 0:35:39.560
<v Speaker 1>comes through the the you know, the the entry way,

0:35:39.680 --> 0:35:42.279
<v Speaker 1>Shaboo jumps off the top of the side. Task is

0:35:42.360 --> 0:35:45.200
<v Speaker 1>in the ring doing the polls, the Dudley's drop, Sam

0:35:45.200 --> 0:35:47.560
<v Speaker 1>Man and the Dreamer in the three d If you

0:35:47.600 --> 0:35:50.239
<v Speaker 1>guys came through with crowd or did whatever you did,

0:35:51.560 --> 0:35:54.160
<v Speaker 1>literally would have been the most shocking moment. It would

0:35:54.160 --> 0:35:57.439
<v Speaker 1>be on one of those countdowns of shocking moments. Yeah,

0:35:57.480 --> 0:36:01.120
<v Speaker 1>and I feel like that's something that shouldn't be advertised.

0:36:01.440 --> 0:36:03.600
<v Speaker 1>It shouldn't that if we agreed to do that, that

0:36:03.640 --> 0:36:05.680
<v Speaker 1>should have totally been a surprise and tried to be

0:36:05.760 --> 0:36:09.200
<v Speaker 1>k fame for as long as possible. But you know,

0:36:09.280 --> 0:36:14.400
<v Speaker 1>I desperately tried to talk Shane in the going just

0:36:14.520 --> 0:36:21.680
<v Speaker 1>like I can to the know that wasn't happening. So

0:36:22.360 --> 0:36:25.640
<v Speaker 1>sat home and watched it like every every other person

0:36:25.880 --> 0:36:29.880
<v Speaker 1>in the world, and it was bitter, super bitter that

0:36:29.960 --> 0:36:31.920
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't there. You know, in like a year, if

0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:36.080
<v Speaker 1>WWE is a part of the bet online community, good

0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:38.400
<v Speaker 1>thing we're not better is because if Christian shows up,

0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:44.280
<v Speaker 1>we would have lost. We never talked about that. How ridiculous.

0:36:45.239 --> 0:36:52.040
<v Speaker 1>You can't make this crap up because, first of all, okay,

0:36:52.239 --> 0:36:57.880
<v Speaker 1>I you know, I enjoy uh betting on certain things.

0:36:58.000 --> 0:37:00.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, I like the casino, I like to gamble

0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:03.400
<v Speaker 1>a little bit here and there. But betting on a

0:37:03.400 --> 0:37:08.560
<v Speaker 1>wrestling match is the most idiotic thing I've ever heard

0:37:08.600 --> 0:37:13.920
<v Speaker 1>in my life. You can't threaten. You can threaten the

0:37:13.920 --> 0:37:16.279
<v Speaker 1>people who work there as much as you want, but

0:37:16.440 --> 0:37:21.520
<v Speaker 1>something is always going to be leaked, right if I'm

0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:24.480
<v Speaker 1>a writer. I'm a writer, and I know what the

0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:26.680
<v Speaker 1>schedule is, and I know who's gonna win and lose.

0:37:27.160 --> 0:37:30.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm calling my cousin Fred and saying, put fifty on

0:37:30.400 --> 0:37:35.959
<v Speaker 1>us so and so because I got a tip. There's

0:37:36.080 --> 0:37:40.359
<v Speaker 1>no way this could happen. It is by far one

0:37:40.440 --> 0:37:44.880
<v Speaker 1>of the most idiotic things I have ever heard. Ever.

0:37:45.600 --> 0:37:51.200
<v Speaker 1>There's no way this could happen. I can't see it happening.

0:37:51.440 --> 0:37:54.320
<v Speaker 1>It's pretty dumb. I think it's because of the coverage

0:37:54.320 --> 0:37:57.320
<v Speaker 1>it gets now in mainstream sports. I think that's exactly why.

0:37:57.680 --> 0:37:59.839
<v Speaker 1>And it's I remember I've said this for years, there's

0:37:59.880 --> 0:38:04.960
<v Speaker 1>a blurred line now between the work and what wrestling

0:38:05.239 --> 0:38:09.640
<v Speaker 1>is portrayed as now to the fans, they it's reported

0:38:09.680 --> 0:38:14.759
<v Speaker 1>on as go to a wrestling site. Okay, what a

0:38:14.880 --> 0:38:19.400
<v Speaker 1>wrestler tweets in character is tweeted his news, as reported

0:38:19.440 --> 0:38:23.040
<v Speaker 1>his news. They forgot somewhere. It's a work. It's treated

0:38:23.120 --> 0:38:28.680
<v Speaker 1>as real information. Oh god, So because ESPN talks about it,

0:38:28.719 --> 0:38:31.320
<v Speaker 1>The New York Post talks about it, the Daily News,

0:38:31.880 --> 0:38:36.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, Washington, all these publications. Forbes talks about it,

0:38:36.520 --> 0:38:40.200
<v Speaker 1>Rolling Stone they talk about it. It blurred the line.

0:38:40.280 --> 0:38:43.359
<v Speaker 1>So now these betting sites are like, well, ship WrestleMania.

0:38:44.120 --> 0:38:48.640
<v Speaker 1>Millions of people watch it, so why not bet on it? Well, yeah,

0:38:48.680 --> 0:38:52.680
<v Speaker 1>there's oh there's writers. We didn't know that. Gee, you

0:38:52.719 --> 0:38:56.400
<v Speaker 1>can bet at the end who's gonna win Indiana Jones

0:38:56.600 --> 0:38:59.959
<v Speaker 1>or the villain. It's just ridiculous to me. I don't

0:39:00.400 --> 0:39:02.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't understand it. I think they would lose tons

0:39:02.600 --> 0:39:05.680
<v Speaker 1>of money. I don't. I don't get it. I hope

0:39:05.680 --> 0:39:09.960
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't happen. I just think it's idiotic. It's just ridiculous.

0:39:10.719 --> 0:39:13.400
<v Speaker 1>Who would have thought Superman wins at the end of

0:39:13.480 --> 0:39:17.239
<v Speaker 1>the Superman movie? Like, who do you think they'll have

0:39:17.320 --> 0:39:20.560
<v Speaker 1>like sub parlays where like, uh, if so and so

0:39:20.719 --> 0:39:25.480
<v Speaker 1>doesn't run in plus one press, yes I do. It's

0:39:25.560 --> 0:39:29.719
<v Speaker 1>so ridiculous, you know, ref bump, you know, like stupid,

0:39:30.320 --> 0:39:33.759
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna it's gonna be stuff like that. It's unbelievable

0:39:33.840 --> 0:39:38.080
<v Speaker 1>that it would be unreal, and to me, it's unfortunate.

0:39:38.120 --> 0:39:41.440
<v Speaker 1>To me, it's another nail in the coffin of what

0:39:41.560 --> 0:39:44.800
<v Speaker 1>was professional wrestling. I hate to say it, and that's

0:39:45.000 --> 0:39:49.840
<v Speaker 1>very sad. Well, speaking of nails and coffins, is somebody

0:39:49.920 --> 0:39:56.360
<v Speaker 1>burying themselves a little too much lately? Which which person? Oh? Well,

0:39:56.680 --> 0:39:58.279
<v Speaker 1>the one I'm thinking about is the one we were

0:39:58.280 --> 0:40:00.560
<v Speaker 1>talking about this morning. Do we have any anybody else

0:40:00.600 --> 0:40:05.279
<v Speaker 1>before we go to our main topic today? No? No, no,

0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:10.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't know, because I gotta tell you

0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:16.239
<v Speaker 1>you'll be surprised who side I'm on and all this. Well,

0:40:16.719 --> 0:40:19.480
<v Speaker 1>the way you said that, I'm thinking you're on punk side.

0:40:20.280 --> 0:40:24.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm team punk. What's your reasoning on that? Because before

0:40:24.360 --> 0:40:28.360
<v Speaker 1>you give an explanation, let me just say everyone in

0:40:28.440 --> 0:40:32.600
<v Speaker 1>the business who is commenting on this story, which recently

0:40:32.640 --> 0:40:35.520
<v Speaker 1>has blown up again, it kind of went down for

0:40:35.560 --> 0:40:38.000
<v Speaker 1>a little bit and now it's a thing again. Right,

0:40:39.080 --> 0:40:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Everyone who's commenting is so anti punk, so anti punk.

0:40:46.680 --> 0:40:50.880
<v Speaker 1>So what is the saving grace that you see that

0:40:50.920 --> 0:40:57.359
<v Speaker 1>you're on punk side, that it's such a pileon that

0:40:57.480 --> 0:41:00.520
<v Speaker 1>now it looks like there's an agenda to get rid

0:41:00.560 --> 0:41:03.200
<v Speaker 1>of the guy. But don't you think there's a pylon

0:41:03.320 --> 0:41:10.320
<v Speaker 1>because he brought it on himself. I'm usually that's what happens. Okay.

0:41:10.400 --> 0:41:14.080
<v Speaker 1>You see the response that he got when he came back. Yeah,

0:41:15.160 --> 0:41:17.319
<v Speaker 1>how many years were people chanting his name while he

0:41:17.400 --> 0:41:22.000
<v Speaker 1>was gone? You think it's jealousy? Yes, okay, could be,

0:41:23.000 --> 0:41:25.920
<v Speaker 1>could be. I'm not an insider, so I don't know.

0:41:26.080 --> 0:41:30.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm just like you. I'm looking, I'm reading, I'm looking

0:41:30.680 --> 0:41:33.879
<v Speaker 1>at clips, I'm watching what people are saying about the guy.

0:41:36.760 --> 0:41:40.600
<v Speaker 1>I knew him back in the day long time ago,

0:41:41.520 --> 0:41:44.960
<v Speaker 1>shared a locker room with him in MLW right when

0:41:45.000 --> 0:41:49.600
<v Speaker 1>ECW was done, still young sumpunk, still a youngster on

0:41:49.640 --> 0:41:53.840
<v Speaker 1>the scene, and then in the fake e C Dub

0:41:54.400 --> 0:41:57.520
<v Speaker 1>he was there and he was always super nice to me,

0:41:57.880 --> 0:42:00.120
<v Speaker 1>and to be honest with you, I never saw an

0:42:00.160 --> 0:42:03.960
<v Speaker 1>ego from him. But then again, I'm a chick and

0:42:04.000 --> 0:42:06.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm not competition, so you have to think of it

0:42:06.520 --> 0:42:10.840
<v Speaker 1>that way too. I get it. But every single person

0:42:11.440 --> 0:42:17.000
<v Speaker 1>that I see dislikes the guy, and it's like he

0:42:17.040 --> 0:42:19.520
<v Speaker 1>has a chip on his shoulder. He thinks his shit

0:42:19.640 --> 0:42:23.320
<v Speaker 1>doesn't stink. He really thinks he's the best in the world,

0:42:24.120 --> 0:42:28.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, and he's got this kind of like an attitude.

0:42:28.719 --> 0:42:32.319
<v Speaker 1>They're saying like that he's better than everybody else. And

0:42:33.880 --> 0:42:37.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, like some people will argue your fact

0:42:38.000 --> 0:42:40.920
<v Speaker 1>and say, you know, maybe if one person says it,

0:42:40.920 --> 0:42:45.120
<v Speaker 1>it's not true, or maybe if two people, but tens

0:42:45.160 --> 0:42:47.920
<v Speaker 1>of hundreds of people who's worked with the guy are

0:42:48.000 --> 0:42:51.040
<v Speaker 1>saying it. Could it be him? Could there be something

0:42:51.080 --> 0:42:56.320
<v Speaker 1>going on? I don't know. I think there's a pile

0:42:56.400 --> 0:43:00.200
<v Speaker 1>on going on. I think there's a definite movement to

0:43:00.239 --> 0:43:05.440
<v Speaker 1>get him out. And to me, the unprofessionalism of the

0:43:05.480 --> 0:43:08.640
<v Speaker 1>guys that have shot on him in the ring, and

0:43:08.719 --> 0:43:11.560
<v Speaker 1>these promos that are now turned out to be shoots,

0:43:11.600 --> 0:43:14.600
<v Speaker 1>and you know, I've seen Eddie Kingston's promo on a

0:43:14.680 --> 0:43:17.759
<v Speaker 1>dynamite that was I guess we thought was a part

0:43:17.800 --> 0:43:20.799
<v Speaker 1>of a storyline, was now allegedly a shoot. All the

0:43:20.840 --> 0:43:23.200
<v Speaker 1>Adam Page stuff that we knew about before that was

0:43:23.200 --> 0:43:26.800
<v Speaker 1>a shoot in the ring that led to all the

0:43:26.880 --> 0:43:31.560
<v Speaker 1>stuff at the media scrum. I'm professionalism, and this guy's

0:43:31.560 --> 0:43:38.440
<v Speaker 1>getting attacked by everybody. But okay, I understand. You know,

0:43:39.280 --> 0:43:42.520
<v Speaker 1>you're getting bullet points in the back, and you get

0:43:42.560 --> 0:43:44.480
<v Speaker 1>to do your own promo because that's what we did.

0:43:44.520 --> 0:43:46.440
<v Speaker 1>We got bullet points, and we can go off on

0:43:46.520 --> 0:43:52.080
<v Speaker 1>a tangent say our own thing. But I mean, everybody

0:43:52.080 --> 0:43:55.879
<v Speaker 1>that is shooting on him, are they getting reprimanded when

0:43:55.880 --> 0:43:58.440
<v Speaker 1>they come through the curtains or is there is there

0:43:58.560 --> 0:44:01.279
<v Speaker 1>some kind of uh, you know, is Tony come and

0:44:01.400 --> 0:44:03.279
<v Speaker 1>going up to him? Or you really shouldn't have said that.

0:44:03.680 --> 0:44:05.960
<v Speaker 1>Are the coaches coming up to him? Is anybody getting

0:44:06.000 --> 0:44:08.520
<v Speaker 1>in trouble for this? See that? I mean that part

0:44:08.800 --> 0:44:13.200
<v Speaker 1>We don't know. Nobody's privy to that information as just

0:44:13.239 --> 0:44:16.440
<v Speaker 1>a casual observer somebody who is it? Because when you

0:44:16.560 --> 0:44:19.840
<v Speaker 1>go into business for yourself, sometimes it's you get in

0:44:19.880 --> 0:44:22.840
<v Speaker 1>trouble for it. You can get in a lot of trouble,

0:44:23.080 --> 0:44:25.680
<v Speaker 1>especially if they you know, if Tony wants him back

0:44:26.239 --> 0:44:28.360
<v Speaker 1>and he's letting all these guys go out and just

0:44:28.480 --> 0:44:33.440
<v Speaker 1>do these interviews where they're just annihilating him on live TV.

0:44:34.000 --> 0:44:37.320
<v Speaker 1>That's not a way to get somebody back, you know

0:44:37.360 --> 0:44:40.200
<v Speaker 1>what I mean? Because that makes me think management is

0:44:40.280 --> 0:44:43.120
<v Speaker 1>letting them have free reign and say what they want.

0:44:43.800 --> 0:44:48.080
<v Speaker 1>And it's not only the talent burying him, but it's

0:44:48.160 --> 0:44:52.799
<v Speaker 1>the company burying him so to speak, because management is

0:44:52.840 --> 0:44:56.279
<v Speaker 1>not doing a thing about it. They're letting them. So

0:44:56.320 --> 0:45:00.120
<v Speaker 1>what does that say, Does Tony want him back? I

0:45:00.160 --> 0:45:03.000
<v Speaker 1>would want to before I would think you want him

0:45:03.040 --> 0:45:07.000
<v Speaker 1>back because of the revenue personally, as if you're a businessman.

0:45:07.200 --> 0:45:09.720
<v Speaker 1>Back do you want him back when the whole locker

0:45:09.760 --> 0:45:12.160
<v Speaker 1>room is flat out saying he's a cancer to the

0:45:12.200 --> 0:45:14.880
<v Speaker 1>locker room. I don't want him in here? Do you

0:45:14.960 --> 0:45:19.120
<v Speaker 1>want to chaos among all your workers? Then, as the boss,

0:45:19.440 --> 0:45:22.799
<v Speaker 1>you go to your top lieutenants and you say you

0:45:22.960 --> 0:45:25.960
<v Speaker 1>need to get over yourself. You need to work with

0:45:26.040 --> 0:45:29.200
<v Speaker 1>him because as a business, we need to operate to

0:45:29.280 --> 0:45:34.240
<v Speaker 1>bring in the most money to operate and continue. Bottom line,

0:45:34.280 --> 0:45:38.000
<v Speaker 1>get over yourself. Work with the guy. He's professional enough

0:45:38.000 --> 0:45:41.320
<v Speaker 1>to work with you. So you move on, get over yourselves.

0:45:41.560 --> 0:45:44.839
<v Speaker 1>And so the Instagram story that he deleted I pulled up.

0:45:44.840 --> 0:45:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Did you get a chance to read it? No? But

0:45:47.040 --> 0:45:51.160
<v Speaker 1>wait before I forget this part. As your boss, you

0:45:51.239 --> 0:45:54.800
<v Speaker 1>just said that Tony wants to be one of the boys,

0:45:56.280 --> 0:46:00.000
<v Speaker 1>not so much a boss. So he's going to listen

0:46:00.080 --> 0:46:03.880
<v Speaker 1>in to the majority of that locker room. My opinion

0:46:03.960 --> 0:46:06.520
<v Speaker 1>from what I hear, I don't know. I'm not in

0:46:06.600 --> 0:46:09.799
<v Speaker 1>that locker room. That's what everybody hears. Everybody hears it.

0:46:09.920 --> 0:46:13.920
<v Speaker 1>So do I want to be a boss figure or

0:46:13.960 --> 0:46:15.480
<v Speaker 1>do I want to be one of the boys that

0:46:15.520 --> 0:46:19.040
<v Speaker 1>everybody loves and everybody's in his ear. We don't want

0:46:19.120 --> 0:46:24.200
<v Speaker 1>him back. Maybe he's listening and appeasing that locker room

0:46:24.239 --> 0:46:28.120
<v Speaker 1>to make everybody happy. You know, it's been quite a while.

0:46:28.800 --> 0:46:34.320
<v Speaker 1>Why hasn't he come back yet. Well, he's injured, he's

0:46:34.360 --> 0:46:38.439
<v Speaker 1>he could still come back and cut promos. He could,

0:46:38.640 --> 0:46:42.480
<v Speaker 1>he could still be on television. I guess, as I do,

0:46:42.520 --> 0:46:46.359
<v Speaker 1>people come back when they're injured. Maybe he's concerned for

0:46:46.360 --> 0:46:49.000
<v Speaker 1>his safety at this point, with the less time he

0:46:49.040 --> 0:46:53.399
<v Speaker 1>was there, he got jumped. I mean, that's and that's

0:46:53.440 --> 0:46:56.480
<v Speaker 1>again the pylon. That's what I don't understand. He's the

0:46:56.880 --> 0:47:01.839
<v Speaker 1>to me outsider, casual observer, not really following aw as

0:47:01.840 --> 0:47:04.319
<v Speaker 1>a product. I'm following the drama as an unfold on

0:47:04.360 --> 0:47:08.440
<v Speaker 1>social media. He's the victim. He's getting attacked left and

0:47:08.520 --> 0:47:14.360
<v Speaker 1>right by everybody. Was he asked to come back do

0:47:14.600 --> 0:47:17.080
<v Speaker 1>they want him in that locker room? Has he been

0:47:17.239 --> 0:47:21.600
<v Speaker 1>offered to come back? There was a scenario where it

0:47:21.600 --> 0:47:25.439
<v Speaker 1>looked like I guess he was coming back, but he's

0:47:25.480 --> 0:47:34.200
<v Speaker 1>not cleared because of the injury. I don't know, so

0:47:34.239 --> 0:47:36.759
<v Speaker 1>that's why. Yeah, again, there's a lot a lot of

0:47:37.520 --> 0:47:42.840
<v Speaker 1>murky information out there. What's the Instagram post? So this

0:47:42.920 --> 0:47:45.480
<v Speaker 1>is what he had put out on Instagram but then

0:47:45.520 --> 0:47:49.840
<v Speaker 1>deleted very quickly. But in this world, it all takes

0:47:50.120 --> 0:47:54.279
<v Speaker 1>is the post and then screen grab and it's all over. Yep.

0:47:55.200 --> 0:47:58.680
<v Speaker 1>So he writes sy which that's the only part of

0:47:58.680 --> 0:48:01.280
<v Speaker 1>this story where seam Punk has eat with me because

0:48:02.000 --> 0:48:06.879
<v Speaker 1>cy that, come on, what are we fourteen year old girl? Well,

0:48:07.000 --> 0:48:11.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean come on exactly, you're you're you're a girl. Okay,

0:48:11.680 --> 0:48:14.520
<v Speaker 1>that's fine, you can say that punk. No. So that's

0:48:14.520 --> 0:48:16.919
<v Speaker 1>where we have a little bit of no Punk, don't

0:48:16.920 --> 0:48:20.040
<v Speaker 1>ever do that again. I wasn't cleared to come back

0:48:20.080 --> 0:48:24.000
<v Speaker 1>to wrestle yet. Uh. Then plan was to wrestle at

0:48:24.000 --> 0:48:27.000
<v Speaker 1>the pay per view. I sat and listened to Moxley's

0:48:27.120 --> 0:48:30.360
<v Speaker 1>Rocky three idea. I explained how I'd never seen a

0:48:30.440 --> 0:48:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Rocky movie. I uh, you know what I think this

0:48:34.120 --> 0:48:35.960
<v Speaker 1>was too. I think he was writing a draft and

0:48:36.000 --> 0:48:37.680
<v Speaker 1>I think he sent it by accident because there's a

0:48:37.719 --> 0:48:40.000
<v Speaker 1>little bit of like weird text that doesn't make sense.

0:48:42.080 --> 0:48:44.720
<v Speaker 1>I thought the idea sucked, but if the boss wanted

0:48:44.760 --> 0:48:47.560
<v Speaker 1>to do it whatever he said, he wouldn't lose to me.

0:48:48.080 --> 0:48:51.799
<v Speaker 1>I'd never experienced someone refusing to lose to me. I

0:48:52.040 --> 0:48:55.160
<v Speaker 1>just laughed. I asked Tony if this is this what

0:48:55.320 --> 0:48:59.240
<v Speaker 1>he wanted. He said yes, he's the boss. So I said, okay,

0:49:00.200 --> 0:49:03.160
<v Speaker 1>but I need to be cleared first. They kept saying

0:49:03.239 --> 0:49:05.640
<v Speaker 1>it could just be a squash, so I didn't need

0:49:05.680 --> 0:49:08.960
<v Speaker 1>to be cleared. I scoffed at that. My health is

0:49:08.960 --> 0:49:13.120
<v Speaker 1>more important. Dave Meltzer is a liar. Jericho is a

0:49:13.160 --> 0:49:17.440
<v Speaker 1>liar and a stooge. There were plans, but plans always change.

0:49:17.520 --> 0:49:21.600
<v Speaker 1>But I'll never put a company above my health ever again. Okay,

0:49:22.719 --> 0:49:25.120
<v Speaker 1>So he called one of the top guys a liar

0:49:25.160 --> 0:49:30.800
<v Speaker 1>and a stooge, which doesn't sit well, probably with Chris Right,

0:49:31.680 --> 0:49:35.440
<v Speaker 1>doesn't sit well with John Moxley because he's basically saying,

0:49:35.480 --> 0:49:39.359
<v Speaker 1>your idea is shit, and you know you don't want

0:49:39.360 --> 0:49:41.640
<v Speaker 1>a job to me, And that's what I sent you

0:49:41.680 --> 0:49:46.080
<v Speaker 1>this morning. Was the Moxley response. Yeah, okay, right, and

0:49:46.160 --> 0:49:48.480
<v Speaker 1>I listened to it. Look, there's always going to be

0:49:48.520 --> 0:49:54.080
<v Speaker 1>some kind of drama going on somewhere. I just feel like,

0:49:55.719 --> 0:50:01.719
<v Speaker 1>my guess is everybody is in Tony's ear that does

0:50:01.760 --> 0:50:04.839
<v Speaker 1>not want him there. And Tony is a yes guy,

0:50:05.480 --> 0:50:07.960
<v Speaker 1>and he wants to be friends with everybody, and he

0:50:08.000 --> 0:50:11.239
<v Speaker 1>wants to be one of the boys, and let's make

0:50:11.360 --> 0:50:16.520
<v Speaker 1>twenty guys happy instead of one. Keep peace in the

0:50:16.560 --> 0:50:21.319
<v Speaker 1>locker room. That's the easiest solution because it could be

0:50:21.360 --> 0:50:23.800
<v Speaker 1>fifty to fifty. Punk could come back, and some of

0:50:23.840 --> 0:50:26.840
<v Speaker 1>the fans that loved him after all this probably hate

0:50:26.880 --> 0:50:30.440
<v Speaker 1>him because they're with the you know, with the other guys,

0:50:30.840 --> 0:50:33.040
<v Speaker 1>like they don't think like you. Like maybe they thought,

0:50:33.080 --> 0:50:35.600
<v Speaker 1>while it was Punk's fault, he deserved to get his

0:50:35.640 --> 0:50:39.160
<v Speaker 1>ass kicked in the media thing. And I don't know,

0:50:39.239 --> 0:50:42.160
<v Speaker 1>but maybe they think, like, what if he comes out

0:50:42.200 --> 0:50:44.920
<v Speaker 1>and he doesn't get the reaction we thought he would get,

0:50:45.600 --> 0:50:47.640
<v Speaker 1>and then what happens He's not as over as we

0:50:47.680 --> 0:50:51.080
<v Speaker 1>thought he was gonna be. You don't know, We don't know.

0:50:52.680 --> 0:50:56.080
<v Speaker 1>I just feel like Tony is probably wanting to appease

0:50:56.120 --> 0:51:01.600
<v Speaker 1>the locker room more than he wants to appease one guy. Yeah,

0:51:02.120 --> 0:51:04.239
<v Speaker 1>I just I think they all they're all threatened by him.

0:51:04.600 --> 0:51:08.239
<v Speaker 1>I think the Jericho thing, there's heat with two of

0:51:08.280 --> 0:51:12.160
<v Speaker 1>them dating back to when Punk left WWE, and Jericho

0:51:12.440 --> 0:51:14.560
<v Speaker 1>reached out to him when he left to come on

0:51:14.600 --> 0:51:17.319
<v Speaker 1>his podcast, and that was like where he wrote him off,

0:51:17.480 --> 0:51:19.560
<v Speaker 1>and he was like, that's all you want, That's all

0:51:19.560 --> 0:51:22.440
<v Speaker 1>you're concerned about is getting the story, and that's where

0:51:22.600 --> 0:51:26.560
<v Speaker 1>they're back and forth kind of started. But to me,

0:51:26.680 --> 0:51:29.520
<v Speaker 1>it looks like the reason people might not like him

0:51:29.560 --> 0:51:32.759
<v Speaker 1>is because Punk carries himself differently than maybe Jericho does,

0:51:32.800 --> 0:51:35.640
<v Speaker 1>where Jericho kind of evolves himself and hangs around the

0:51:35.680 --> 0:51:38.040
<v Speaker 1>guys and maybe wants to be buddies and will listen

0:51:38.080 --> 0:51:40.160
<v Speaker 1>to what you got to say. Punk will listen to you,

0:51:40.239 --> 0:51:43.279
<v Speaker 1>but Punk's gonna tell you if something sucks. Punk's gonna

0:51:43.280 --> 0:51:49.400
<v Speaker 1>give you nasty feedback, honestly. But people sing his praises

0:51:49.440 --> 0:51:52.719
<v Speaker 1>and Punk say, Punk's great. Punk's this. He bought the

0:51:52.760 --> 0:51:55.520
<v Speaker 1>locker room coffee and he listened to this, and he

0:51:55.560 --> 0:51:59.000
<v Speaker 1>critiqued my match and did that. Jericho may want to

0:51:59.000 --> 0:52:01.520
<v Speaker 1>go out drinking with you, to words and go party

0:52:01.680 --> 0:52:04.160
<v Speaker 1>and you know, and then go to a concert. Yeah,

0:52:04.160 --> 0:52:07.239
<v Speaker 1>but it's punk to be all say all of wrestling

0:52:08.040 --> 0:52:10.920
<v Speaker 1>like it is his word. The final say, just because

0:52:10.920 --> 0:52:14.239
<v Speaker 1>he thinks something sucks doesn't mean it sucks. But he's

0:52:14.239 --> 0:52:17.319
<v Speaker 1>saying he asked if you ask if somebody says, hey, punk,

0:52:17.320 --> 0:52:19.279
<v Speaker 1>can you watch my match, and they go to whim

0:52:19.280 --> 0:52:22.120
<v Speaker 1>and they say, hey, blah blah blah blah blah to Jericho.

0:52:22.400 --> 0:52:24.719
<v Speaker 1>You know, but what I'm saying, like, I think the

0:52:24.960 --> 0:52:28.960
<v Speaker 1>punk got a reputation for not being approachable, right, ah,

0:52:29.000 --> 0:52:32.920
<v Speaker 1>I got youa okay, but he was to some I

0:52:32.960 --> 0:52:36.239
<v Speaker 1>think that some people just didn't think he was so Yeah,

0:52:36.280 --> 0:52:39.600
<v Speaker 1>but he was a dick. Punk saying to an indie

0:52:39.680 --> 0:52:42.120
<v Speaker 1>kid that match sucked. Here's why. Blah blah blah is

0:52:42.160 --> 0:52:44.880
<v Speaker 1>one thing. Punk saying to a guy like John Moxley,

0:52:44.920 --> 0:52:47.080
<v Speaker 1>this idea blows. I don't want to do it. That's

0:52:47.120 --> 0:52:50.880
<v Speaker 1>another thing. You know. It's kind of like they're button heads.

0:52:50.920 --> 0:52:55.080
<v Speaker 1>They're two top talents. You got one guy who's wanting

0:52:55.120 --> 0:52:57.319
<v Speaker 1>to put the idea over and the other guy says,

0:52:57.360 --> 0:53:00.200
<v Speaker 1>this is shit. I don't want to do that. So

0:53:00.440 --> 0:53:05.239
<v Speaker 1>it's it's kind of you're clashing and there's a certain way,

0:53:05.400 --> 0:53:10.000
<v Speaker 1>I think, especially with guys that are on the same, like,

0:53:10.560 --> 0:53:13.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, the same level as you. You don't come

0:53:13.760 --> 0:53:16.200
<v Speaker 1>off like he's an indie guy. You don't tell John, well,

0:53:16.239 --> 0:53:18.399
<v Speaker 1>this sucks and you know, I'm not gonna do it.

0:53:18.520 --> 0:53:21.920
<v Speaker 1>There's a way to approach certain things, and like you

0:53:22.000 --> 0:53:25.400
<v Speaker 1>just said, he has that certain aura about him, like

0:53:25.480 --> 0:53:27.520
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't care who he's talking to. If I think

0:53:27.560 --> 0:53:30.640
<v Speaker 1>it sucks, it sucks and I'm not doing it, you know,

0:53:30.760 --> 0:53:33.800
<v Speaker 1>And that's gonna get your heat because you can't talk

0:53:33.880 --> 0:53:37.359
<v Speaker 1>to top tier guys like that. Okay, it does come

0:53:37.400 --> 0:53:41.000
<v Speaker 1>off as being the dick. So from your industry experience,

0:53:41.040 --> 0:53:43.920
<v Speaker 1>in your professional ear, is that why Moxley was so

0:53:44.040 --> 0:53:48.759
<v Speaker 1>pissed in that interview. I if I was John and

0:53:48.800 --> 0:53:51.319
<v Speaker 1>it came to me that way. Yeah, I think the

0:53:51.400 --> 0:53:55.239
<v Speaker 1>approach it's coming off is like an I'm better than you,

0:53:55.480 --> 0:53:58.560
<v Speaker 1>my ideas are better than yours kind of deal, you

0:53:58.600 --> 0:54:00.759
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, instead of like, well, let's just

0:54:00.920 --> 0:54:03.799
<v Speaker 1>pick it apart and maybe we can change this to

0:54:03.880 --> 0:54:06.240
<v Speaker 1>make this work out a little better. Like, there's ways

0:54:06.280 --> 0:54:11.600
<v Speaker 1>to communicate with people. And obviously their communication wasn't very

0:54:11.640 --> 0:54:14.399
<v Speaker 1>good because it's like, my idea is good. No, your

0:54:14.440 --> 0:54:16.640
<v Speaker 1>idea sucks. No, my idea is better. No, I'm not

0:54:16.760 --> 0:54:21.640
<v Speaker 1>doing that. There was no like middle ground to it.

0:54:22.719 --> 0:54:24.920
<v Speaker 1>And maybe if they would have taken the time to

0:54:24.960 --> 0:54:28.480
<v Speaker 1>maybe say, hey, let's change this, or let me explain

0:54:28.680 --> 0:54:31.640
<v Speaker 1>rock the theme of Rocky to you. You never saw this,

0:54:32.480 --> 0:54:35.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, let me explain how Rocky was and maybe

0:54:35.440 --> 0:54:37.279
<v Speaker 1>punk was said, oh yeah, that's kind of cool. I

0:54:37.280 --> 0:54:39.520
<v Speaker 1>never looked at it that way, like they have to

0:54:39.600 --> 0:54:43.320
<v Speaker 1>expand on ideas to make somebody understand it if they don't,

0:54:43.600 --> 0:54:46.600
<v Speaker 1>but don't come across as a jerk and say no,

0:54:46.760 --> 0:54:50.120
<v Speaker 1>that sucks. I don't want to do that. But to me,

0:54:50.239 --> 0:54:53.560
<v Speaker 1>there's just a way of talking to people. And if

0:54:53.560 --> 0:54:57.279
<v Speaker 1>that's his attitude with everyone, then nobody wants to hear that.

0:54:57.280 --> 0:55:00.680
<v Speaker 1>That's always if you approach something like that, it's always like, well,

0:55:00.760 --> 0:55:02.480
<v Speaker 1>my ideas are better. No, I don't want to do that.

0:55:04.440 --> 0:55:06.200
<v Speaker 1>Somebody came to you and said, you know, your new

0:55:06.320 --> 0:55:12.399
<v Speaker 1>show sucks, and they're a fellow podcaster, right, and and

0:55:12.480 --> 0:55:14.560
<v Speaker 1>you say, well, I kind of like, you know, my

0:55:15.200 --> 0:55:17.640
<v Speaker 1>idea is and what no, man, it sucks. It just blows.

0:55:17.880 --> 0:55:20.160
<v Speaker 1>They don't give you a reason why they just say

0:55:20.200 --> 0:55:22.600
<v Speaker 1>it sucks. You should be like me, You should do

0:55:22.640 --> 0:55:24.600
<v Speaker 1>it like me. Well, I don't want to do it

0:55:24.640 --> 0:55:27.040
<v Speaker 1>like you. I want to do it like me. Everybody's

0:55:27.080 --> 0:55:29.840
<v Speaker 1>stuck on what they think is right, what they believe in.

0:55:30.080 --> 0:55:32.040
<v Speaker 1>But there has to be a common ground, there has

0:55:32.080 --> 0:55:34.360
<v Speaker 1>to be a middle and maybe if they could have

0:55:34.440 --> 0:55:37.640
<v Speaker 1>like picked something apart of work together, they could have

0:55:37.719 --> 0:55:40.279
<v Speaker 1>agreed on something, not just shooting it down right away

0:55:40.360 --> 0:55:43.600
<v Speaker 1>not understanding what the concept is. I don't know. Maybe

0:55:43.640 --> 0:55:47.080
<v Speaker 1>Punk is just that guy who doesn't want to listen

0:55:47.080 --> 0:55:51.839
<v Speaker 1>to other opinions. If that's what you're telling me, then

0:55:51.880 --> 0:55:56.520
<v Speaker 1>I get where John's coming from, you know. But then again,

0:55:56.560 --> 0:55:59.600
<v Speaker 1>I feel like two people should have say in the match.

0:55:59.600 --> 0:56:02.200
<v Speaker 1>It should just be one person. It should be both

0:56:02.239 --> 0:56:07.520
<v Speaker 1>of them coming together for the betterment of the company

0:56:07.719 --> 0:56:13.080
<v Speaker 1>and of the match itself. Now, you know, I usually

0:56:13.080 --> 0:56:16.239
<v Speaker 1>asked this, Have you experienced anything like it? Have you

0:56:16.280 --> 0:56:21.120
<v Speaker 1>seen anything even remotely? Not even the drama, let's take

0:56:21.160 --> 0:56:26.319
<v Speaker 1>more like the match breakdown, the Punk influence on that

0:56:26.360 --> 0:56:30.200
<v Speaker 1>match finish when you're hearing Moxley, Have you seen anything

0:56:31.000 --> 0:56:34.600
<v Speaker 1>like just completely fall apart like this where guys just

0:56:34.760 --> 0:56:37.399
<v Speaker 1>cannot agree on a finish. And the other thing too,

0:56:37.440 --> 0:56:41.120
<v Speaker 1>is that we can't discredit is where's I want? Where's

0:56:41.120 --> 0:56:45.400
<v Speaker 1>Tony's input? Again? You know, Tony's a yes guy. He

0:56:45.440 --> 0:56:47.880
<v Speaker 1>doesn't want to piss anybody off. So is he letting

0:56:47.920 --> 0:56:50.960
<v Speaker 1>them handle it and you know, themselves and him just

0:56:51.000 --> 0:56:54.360
<v Speaker 1>backing off, or is he letting the coach whoever is

0:56:54.400 --> 0:56:56.480
<v Speaker 1>the coach involved in that, handle it, which the coach

0:56:56.520 --> 0:56:58.040
<v Speaker 1>will probably just throw their hands up in the air

0:56:58.080 --> 0:57:01.040
<v Speaker 1>and walk away. You know, it's like, you got you

0:57:01.160 --> 0:57:03.320
<v Speaker 1>got two guys that have been in the business for years.

0:57:03.400 --> 0:57:04.920
<v Speaker 1>What am I going to do about it? Let them

0:57:04.920 --> 0:57:08.719
<v Speaker 1>handle it. I've seen instances where guys are trying to

0:57:08.800 --> 0:57:12.840
<v Speaker 1>go over matches and I've literally heard them say I

0:57:12.880 --> 0:57:15.839
<v Speaker 1>don't like that, and the other guy will say, okay,

0:57:15.880 --> 0:57:18.640
<v Speaker 1>what do you got? Well I thought this, Well, no,

0:57:18.760 --> 0:57:20.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't really like that. Well let's think of something.

0:57:20.720 --> 0:57:24.000
<v Speaker 1>I've never ever seen two guys say well, I'm not

0:57:24.000 --> 0:57:27.000
<v Speaker 1>going to do that because that sucks. I've never seen that.

0:57:28.760 --> 0:57:33.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I mean, I've always saw like a communication,

0:57:33.440 --> 0:57:36.320
<v Speaker 1>like people trying to work together to better it. I've

0:57:36.320 --> 0:57:38.720
<v Speaker 1>never seen somebody flat out and say I'm not doing that.

0:57:38.720 --> 0:57:43.680
<v Speaker 1>That sucks because that's an insult. You're insulting the other guy, right,

0:57:43.880 --> 0:57:48.400
<v Speaker 1>who wants to work with someone like that? I don't know.

0:57:48.480 --> 0:57:53.040
<v Speaker 1>That's just my take. If you're uncomfortable about a spot

0:57:53.200 --> 0:57:56.000
<v Speaker 1>or a bump or something, you always should say something,

0:57:56.320 --> 0:57:59.120
<v Speaker 1>but saying it in a nice way, Like my mom

0:57:59.120 --> 0:58:02.560
<v Speaker 1>always said, uh, honey, you'll get you farther than vinegar

0:58:02.760 --> 0:58:05.120
<v Speaker 1>or that, you know that old expression, like use honey

0:58:05.200 --> 0:58:08.960
<v Speaker 1>instead of vinegar, Like be sweet instead of sour, because

0:58:09.000 --> 0:58:12.760
<v Speaker 1>your sweetness will get you farther. Approach things with a

0:58:12.840 --> 0:58:16.440
<v Speaker 1>better attitude, because if you come in with a shit attitude,

0:58:16.440 --> 0:58:18.400
<v Speaker 1>you're not gonna get anywhere. People are just gonna look

0:58:18.400 --> 0:58:20.640
<v Speaker 1>at you and be like, Oh, that guy's got a

0:58:20.720 --> 0:58:24.439
<v Speaker 1>chip on his shoulder. You know. I think he'll be back.

0:58:26.320 --> 0:58:29.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I wouldn't mind seeing him wrestle again. I

0:58:29.600 --> 0:58:32.360
<v Speaker 1>thought he was very talented, you know. But if it's

0:58:32.400 --> 0:58:37.040
<v Speaker 1>going to cause all disruption in the locker room amongst everybody, like,

0:58:37.200 --> 0:58:41.520
<v Speaker 1>is there anybody on punk side in that locker room? Anybody?

0:58:41.640 --> 0:58:44.160
<v Speaker 1>Just one person? Does he have one friend there? Yeah? Well,

0:58:44.200 --> 0:58:48.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean FTR loves him, Okay, And there was a

0:58:48.280 --> 0:58:50.760
<v Speaker 1>couple of the younger guys. I think it was Powerhouse.

0:58:50.800 --> 0:58:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Hobbs was another guy that came out and defended Punk.

0:58:54.760 --> 0:58:57.200
<v Speaker 1>So he does have allies, and he does have some

0:58:57.320 --> 0:59:03.080
<v Speaker 1>folks that do find him to be a nice fella.

0:59:03.640 --> 0:59:07.840
<v Speaker 1>But you know, that's a very small group pileon. So

0:59:08.040 --> 0:59:09.720
<v Speaker 1>I think he'll be back. But I think it's because

0:59:09.760 --> 0:59:12.240
<v Speaker 1>the contract weighs a lot. I think he carries still

0:59:12.280 --> 0:59:16.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of weight in the sponsor world, and that's

0:59:16.280 --> 0:59:19.920
<v Speaker 1>what we're here for, folks. We're here for the money.

0:59:20.960 --> 0:59:23.919
<v Speaker 1>I you know, maybe he will come back and realize

0:59:24.800 --> 0:59:28.040
<v Speaker 1>let's be a little more humble. If that's the case. Again,

0:59:28.160 --> 0:59:31.320
<v Speaker 1>I you know, we weren't prevy to these conversations. It's

0:59:31.320 --> 0:59:35.400
<v Speaker 1>he said. He said basically, you know what I'm saying. Like,

0:59:35.480 --> 0:59:37.480
<v Speaker 1>I didn't hear any of this firsthand, so I don't

0:59:37.520 --> 0:59:40.160
<v Speaker 1>know what's going on. But if you come back with

0:59:40.200 --> 0:59:44.760
<v Speaker 1>a better attitude and a team player attitude, then by

0:59:44.760 --> 0:59:48.120
<v Speaker 1>all means, like I'd hold the door open for you

0:59:48.520 --> 0:59:51.120
<v Speaker 1>because you want what's best for the company. I wrote

0:59:51.120 --> 0:59:54.920
<v Speaker 1>down a quote from Moxley, and this probably fits the

0:59:55.000 --> 0:59:59.520
<v Speaker 1>punk scenario, and this probably fits like everybody's mindset from

0:59:59.520 --> 1:00:04.120
<v Speaker 1>whatever era of wrestling you come from. Moxley says, you

1:00:04.240 --> 1:00:08.800
<v Speaker 1>have to evolve. Most people are stuck in whatever era

1:00:08.920 --> 1:00:12.240
<v Speaker 1>of wrestling they came from, and that's probably where Punk's from.

1:00:12.320 --> 1:00:15.280
<v Speaker 1>Whatever he came from, whatever he was around, it's probably

1:00:15.320 --> 1:00:17.760
<v Speaker 1>where he's stuck and he just won't change. Yeah, but

1:00:18.400 --> 1:00:22.320
<v Speaker 1>John's been around for a while too, But he in

1:00:22.360 --> 1:00:24.800
<v Speaker 1>the interview, he says he evolved, he evolved, and he's

1:00:24.800 --> 1:00:29.520
<v Speaker 1>going to ago he's yeah, yeah. If the business has changed,

1:00:29.560 --> 1:00:33.280
<v Speaker 1>I'll say it, it's it's changed by leaps and bounds

1:00:33.280 --> 1:00:37.240
<v Speaker 1>since I started completely different. So I agree with that

1:00:37.280 --> 1:00:41.280
<v Speaker 1>statement one hundred. But I also feel like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>being being humble and not walking in like you're the

1:00:45.720 --> 1:00:49.160
<v Speaker 1>shit will get you much farther in the business. And

1:00:49.680 --> 1:00:53.360
<v Speaker 1>just you know, trying to just work with people and

1:00:53.440 --> 1:00:56.040
<v Speaker 1>listen to their ideas even if you don't like them.

1:00:56.400 --> 1:00:59.560
<v Speaker 1>There is a way to go about it and not

1:00:59.640 --> 1:01:04.080
<v Speaker 1>be so rude. And maybe that's why people don't dig Punk.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that that could be to me that

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<v Speaker 1>that that would be my pet peeve, Like, don't come

1:01:10.760 --> 1:01:14.360
<v Speaker 1>across like you're better than everyone else because we're all

1:01:14.360 --> 1:01:19.360
<v Speaker 1>here for one goal. Well, you may be right. I

1:01:19.480 --> 1:01:24.480
<v Speaker 1>may be crazy. I may be crazy, but that's about

1:01:24.520 --> 1:01:28.120
<v Speaker 1>all I got was this was a good one. I

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<v Speaker 1>like this. I like doing these hot topics for the week.

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<v Speaker 1>This is our new thing. Man. Lookod look, we did

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<v Speaker 1>an hour. I know. I told you we can either

1:01:38.560 --> 1:01:41.000
<v Speaker 1>go thirty minutes and we can going out. I'm telling you,

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<v Speaker 1>and I get an idea. Who it's good. Yeah, my

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<v Speaker 1>back's all stiff. Now, I'm all. You're fine. It's good content.

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<v Speaker 1>We need content. We got it. Yeah, yeah, all right,

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