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Speaker 1: What's up everybody? Welcome into another edition of Crush City Territory.

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Speaker 1: I'm Channel Room with Josh Reddick and a very very

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Speaker 1: tired Tyler Stafford Tyler. First of all, the comments have

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Speaker 1: been rolling in. Everyone is very very waiting, very anxiously

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Speaker 1: to hear. How is everyone doing? And do we have

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Speaker 1: a name.

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Speaker 2: Everyone is doing great, We're back home. Olivia and Margo

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Speaker 2: are the best big sisters. It's very cute. But yes,

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Speaker 2: like months ago before we started this podcast, we had

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Speaker 2: our top name and that is what we went with.

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Speaker 2: His name is Camden. We do call him Cam. I did.

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Speaker 2: I did notice that, like two weeks into the hype train,

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Speaker 2: I was like, I wonder if that's why I.

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Speaker 3: Like cam The reason behind the hype train.

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Speaker 4: Is now explained.

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Speaker 2: Yes, as I keep saying Cam in my head at home. Uh,

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Speaker 2: and we're lucky. I already have a cousin named Cameron,

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Speaker 2: who I believe listens to this podcast, So shout out Cameron.

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Speaker 2: But he would have probably probably would have been Cameron

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Speaker 2: if we we didn't have the cousin named Cameron, So

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Speaker 2: we went with Camden. We do call him Cam or Cammy.

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Speaker 2: Maybe if we want to start trying that out for

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Speaker 2: for cam Smith. We got a whole list. We got

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Speaker 2: a whole list of nicknames for him that probably can

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Speaker 2: transfer over to cam Smith as well. But very funny.

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Speaker 2: Alicia did ask me if our child's name was a

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Speaker 2: bit and I said, no, first off, you picked it,

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Speaker 2: so don't blame me.

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Speaker 4: In your favorite perfectly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very funny now, I mean when she said Camden

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Speaker 2: at first, she was like, oh, it's cute, And of

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Speaker 2: course the first thing in my head is like, sweet

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Speaker 2: Camden Yards. That's that's awesome that it gets to name

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Speaker 2: a kid after a great baseball stadium. So, yes, he's

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Speaker 2: doing well, quite sleepy, but everybody's.

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Speaker 5: Doing he's quite sleepy or you're quite sleepy.

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Speaker 2: Well. I don't know if you've ever seen a newborn.

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Speaker 2: They sleep a lot except for the times that you

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Speaker 2: want to sleep. So it's not so much Chandler as

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Speaker 2: a childless man. It's not so much that they don't

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Speaker 2: sleep a lot. It's that they don't sleep a lot

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Speaker 2: in a row. So it's like every two hours at

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Speaker 2: night you're waking up and feeding and then burping and rocking,

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Speaker 2: and then you go back to sleep. So you're just

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Speaker 2: constantly in this state of like, you know, waking up

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Speaker 2: from a nap basically like four times a night. But

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Speaker 2: everybody's doing great. I get a whole two weeks off

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Speaker 2: of work before I have to go back to that,

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Speaker 2: so shout out America. I got I gotta get back

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Speaker 2: in that. Meanwhile, there's a lady at my company, who

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Speaker 2: were an international company. She works in the UK, and

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Speaker 2: they sent out an email for her that she was

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Speaker 2: having their baby like a week before ours, and They're like,

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Speaker 2: she will be out on maternity leave for a year

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Speaker 2: and we'll be back. And I'm like, all right, it's sick.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 2: So I get two weeks, she'll be out for a year.

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Speaker 2: Good for her. Everyone should get that. But yeah, we're

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Speaker 2: all we're all doing well. Thanks for for checking in.

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Speaker 2: I enjoyed all the comments saying he named him Cameron Smith.

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Speaker 2: You're pretty close, but but it's Camden. So has Camp?

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Speaker 5: Has Camden gotten to watch camph yeah?

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, we watched. I mean, it's been a great

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Speaker 2: week of his life to watch cam Smith play. He's

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Speaker 2: been he's been hot, so I've been showing him.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: I almost put it on in the hospital for the

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Speaker 2: de gram Hunter Brown start like four hours after he

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Speaker 2: was born. I mean, they had a TV in there,

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Speaker 2: what do you want me to do? But uh I

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Speaker 2: did not, Yeah, I uh I not. We watched a

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Speaker 2: any of that, but I did follow along on my phone,

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Speaker 2: so that was good. But then I've been watching all

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Speaker 2: the other ones been showing him. Watched that. He was

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Speaker 1: It's it's rough you explain to him how easy it

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Speaker 1: is to hit a homer in a minor league ball.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, the best part was they kept saying, oh,

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Speaker 2: the wind is crazy here, and I believe them. But

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Speaker 2: if you were watching that channel or you didn't go

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Speaker 2: so you've probably watched it on TV. Every time they

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Speaker 2: Obviously there are other factors.

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Speaker 4: The way way there was way more wind than one.

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Speaker 2: Fo Yeah, well it's the heat and all of that too,

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Speaker 2: But it's very funny. Yes, there was some Little League

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Speaker 2: it was. I don't know it was possible to feel

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Speaker 2: worse for the Rays that that is rough to play

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Speaker 2: in that stadium for a year. I mean it looks

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Speaker 2: is not great. Yeah, I know, I'm just I know

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Speaker 2: they don't have another choice, but yikes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this isn't the A's situation, where like the A's

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Speaker 1: did this the Rays like, I mean, a natural disaster happened.

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Speaker 1: Like you can't you can't fault them for having to

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Speaker 1: play in a minor leagueall. Josh, did you play at Steinbergner?

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Speaker 1: I know, we obviously know you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, in a spring training game when you're supposed.

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Speaker 5: To play there, when you're supposed to play there, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when I was I think when I was like,

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Speaker 3: I think it was my final year with Boston, I

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Speaker 1: I was about to say, there's no there's no chance

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Speaker 1: you made it with the Astros because you by that

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Speaker 1: point you had so much service and you were so established.

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Speaker 5: You don't make you don't.

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Speaker 1: Guys of your ilk don't make three and a half

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Speaker 4: You want to rite.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I was. I was still very irrelevant in

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Speaker 3: the Red Sox organization. So I did it to drive

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Speaker 4: They let me drive it, so that was nice, nice.

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Speaker 1: Nice you so you so that that is how it

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Speaker 1: goes a lot like veteran players will not ride them,

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Speaker 1: They ain't riding the bus with the minor league guys.

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Speaker 1: They they pull up in their cars so they can

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Speaker 4: Two or three because Florida spring training sucks. And I

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Speaker 3: Years in Arizona, and I'll tell you what, man, it's

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Speaker 5: It's it's not what you want.

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Speaker 1: But but you know, the Astras are done well. They're

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Speaker 1: not done playing games in the spring training park because

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Speaker 1: they go to Sacramento next month. But again, like we

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Speaker 1: the rays. Unfortunately, we're put in this position by a

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Speaker 1: natural disaster. Speaking of disasters, Renel Blanco's elbow hurts yea,

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Speaker 1: which is not which is not what you want to hear.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Yeah, you know, as we're recording this

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Speaker 1: at ten fifteen in the morning on Thursday, there's.

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Speaker 5: Been no update.

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Speaker 1: I if you've been following the Astras for long enough,

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Speaker 1: we're probably not going to get any substance of update

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Speaker 1: anytime soon. But but suffice to say, I mean, they

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Speaker 1: Angeless and the third since this season started. Josh, where

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Speaker 1: do they go from here? Just let's let's not presume

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Speaker 3: That's that's a good question. I think it's more of

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Speaker 3: But gosh, it just seems like it's the every week

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Speaker 3: there's some kind of new elbow injury. But yeah, you're

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Speaker 3: looking at a definite il stint. Other pictures become a

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Speaker 4: Lance right now? We don't know yet.

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Speaker 3: I just don't know what you're getting out there right now.

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Speaker 3: But I'll tell you what, man, Hunter Brown's heaving back.

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Speaker 3: Just got a little bit more workload put on him

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Speaker 3: kid's been fantastic outside of you know, one start in

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Speaker 4: So it becomes a big step. Who's going to step up?

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Speaker 4: Who knows, but so you know, it's not just one person.

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Speaker 3: There's got to be like three guys that step up

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Speaker 2: For this it my hot take. We've talked about the

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Speaker 2: Winter League with with Blanco. That's fine, good for him.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad he does that. My hot take is now

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Speaker 2: his elbow is weak because we stopped letting him wash cars.

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Speaker 2: That's what was helping him for years. Have Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: mean that elbow washing cars, and we took that away

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Speaker 2: the Astro's fault for not letting him wash cars in

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Speaker 1: in Texas, which all things considered, was a step forward.

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Speaker 1: It couldn't have gone much worse than what he did

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Speaker 1: don't botch that double playball he and Jeremy Panna that

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Speaker 1: he's going to start tonight series opener against the Mariners,

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Speaker 1: a big test against a lineup that's improved a lot.

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Speaker 2: What did you guys.

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Speaker 1: Both think of his last start and do you think

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Speaker 1: that is kind of the building block that he can

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Speaker 1: Like I understand the outcry because you have the Mariners

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Speaker 1: Looking at seven and a half out at Memorial Day.

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Speaker 2: so I mean all he has to do is make contact,

437
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Speaker 2: and he's done a much better job of that this year.

438
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Speaker 2: And I mean that's the that's the breakout we've seen.

439
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Speaker 2: He's got a one to twenty five ops plus right now.

440
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Speaker 2: He's been a really really good hitter and it looks

441
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Speaker 2: sustainable to me. It's not like like I said, where

442
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Speaker 2: he's just run in to seven or eight home runs

443
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Speaker 2: and that's propping up his numbers right now, Like it

444
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Speaker 2: looks like something that he can do day in and

445
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Speaker 2: day out, and he's looked like a really really good hitter.

446
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Speaker 5: Yeah, where would this lineup be without him at this point.

447
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Speaker 2: Let's not let's not even discuss that. I mean, yeah, yeah,

448
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Speaker 2: I can in fathom.

449
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Speaker 4: I can't even fath if he wasn't in this lineup.

450
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Speaker 4: I mean, who can I mean.

451
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Speaker 2: He's at Josh. Did you did you have like a

452
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Speaker 2: consultant work with you on your card signature? Is it?

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Speaker 7: I know?

454
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Speaker 4: I was all. I was all self improved.

455
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Speaker 3: Maybe, I mean I practiced daily in high school, as

456
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Speaker 3: I think we probably all did.

457
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Speaker 2: No, okay, well I did not assume that.

458
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Speaker 4: I actually I.

459
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Speaker 3: Actually started in my miner when I got all those

460
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Speaker 3: card deals doing the J like he does the cursive J.

461
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Speaker 3: And then I think, once I probably got into my

462
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Speaker 3: second year in the show, I went to just a

463
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Speaker 3: normal regular J, capitol J, and.

464
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Speaker 4: Then like a little swoopy H that was it.

465
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Speaker 3: And then all you know is R and then two

466
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Speaker 3: lines for two d's and then the K gets a

467
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Speaker 3: nice little swirl and back through the D and then

468
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Speaker 3: I dot.

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Speaker 2: The I beautiful way to.

470
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Speaker 3: Go practicing practicing, and then change. I just didn't like

471
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Speaker 3: the way because it looked too much like a Z.

472
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Speaker 3: The cursive JAY looks too much.

473
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Speaker 2: Like a Z. Do you have to have a different

474
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Speaker 2: one for like legal documents. Do you have like a

475
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Speaker 2: fact I don't.

476
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Speaker 4: I'm not I do, but I'm not letting the public

477
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Speaker 4: know what that might be.

478
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Speaker 2: You could, you could explain it to me right now,

479
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Speaker 2: and I would never be able to recreate what you're

480
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Speaker 2: talking about. I'm a visual learner.

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Speaker 3: You'd have to show it's it's definitely different. But you know,

482
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Speaker 3: I mean, I go by my middle name, So I mean,

483
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Speaker 3: as most.

484
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Speaker 4: People will put on their documents, right is their clearance? Yeah,

485
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Speaker 4: so it's William. So most of my official documents have William.

486
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Speaker 2: Willy Reddick would have been a good baseball name. You

487
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Speaker 2: missed out.

488
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Speaker 3: Willy Reddick would have been a great name for something

489
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Speaker 3: I don't want to discuss on air. We're not we're

490
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Speaker 3: not going to go down that road because we talk

491
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Speaker 3: about in my younger years.

492
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Speaker 4: And I'm not a billy. I'm not a bill.

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Speaker 2: No, definitely, let's just stick.

494
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Speaker 4: To to Josh or Red and we're good.

495
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Speaker 2: Okay, that's fine.

496
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Speaker 1: Things have come a long way since since Reddick's days

497
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Speaker 1: of getting his baseball cards. But with but with Arena Club,

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Speaker 1: the value that you get out of these slab packs

501
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503
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Speaker 1: Jeremy Payna card that we just showed. An Arena Club

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508
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521
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Speaker 1: were talking about with as we were talking about with

522
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Speaker 1: Jeremy Pania, and no one wants to think about what

523
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Speaker 1: this lineup looks like without him, the lineup is still

524
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 1: there's still a lot of questions here. I've I think

525
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Speaker 1: and Josh, you know, we haven't had you on since

526
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Speaker 1: the Texas Series. The Texas Series really accentuated how little

527
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Speaker 1: balanced this thing has. I mean, Nativaldi and Jacob de

528
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Speaker 1: gram are two of the best starters against right handed

529
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Speaker 1: pitchers in baseball, and they sent out eight right handed

530
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 1: hitters and switch hitting Victor Carrottini hitting fifth both nights.

531
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Speaker 1: I get ord and Alvarez is out. We'll talk about

532
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Speaker 1: that in a little bit. But as a left handed

533
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Speaker 1: hitter yourself, Josh, this lineup needs some balance because it

534
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: can you tell people why, Like it just becomes easy

535
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 1: to pitch to eight right handed hitters, Like if these

536
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,360
Speaker 1: opponents don't have to get in their head that they

537
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 1: can pitch everybody the same way, Like, how difficult is

538
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: this imbalance for them to overcome?

539
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 4: This guy would start blowing the driveway right when I'm

540
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 4: on my podcast, by the way, Yeah, it's awful.

541
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Speaker 3: I mean, Jacob de Grom's probably the best pitcher in

542
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 3: the last you know, fifteen years that when you put

543
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Speaker 3: all his stats together, then you throw a guy like

544
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Speaker 3: Valdi out there, who's just been elite for so long,

545
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,439
Speaker 3: it makes it absolutely easy for those Riotings to do

546
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 3: that against right handed hitters, because you know, those guys

547
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,880
Speaker 3: throw high upper nineties with a disgusting slider, disgusting cutters,

548
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 3: and they're just they're elite.

549
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Speaker 4: That's what we talk about.

550
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Speaker 3: So I mean just going out there every night and going, man,

551
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Speaker 3: I really have just absolutely one set mindset to go

552
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,640
Speaker 3: out there and plan against all these guys. I'm gonna

553
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 3: throw fastballs and sliders away for eight guys, and then

554
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,679
Speaker 3: I gotta throw my change up five times to one

555
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 3: left to hit her like he can literally just unload

556
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 3: this whole arsenal against that one leftiest. So I don't

557
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 3: even know if you're helping that guy out, but you know,

558
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 3: if you're right, it's hard to get the foot down

559
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 3: on ninety seven with those sliders. So it's definitely something

560
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 3: that they're definitely missing. Your done big time.

561
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Speaker 4: But then you know, other than that, they're still missing

562
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 4: a left handed bat.

563
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Speaker 3: I think there's something that needs to be said about

564
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 3: them not having enough lefties or even the average number

565
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 3: of lefties, and they're a lined to keep it going.

566
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Speaker 3: And if I can rewind a bit on Jeremy Pana,

567
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 3: great story that I found out a couple of years ago.

568
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 3: You know, he's a Northeastern guy. I played in the Northeast.

569
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Speaker 3: He was actually at a baseball camp in Pauw Tuckett

570
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Speaker 3: when I was with the Paul Socks. I think it

571
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Speaker 3: was twenty ten, maybe twenty eleven, and he ran through,

572
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Speaker 3: you know, the camp, and I was helping run it

573
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Speaker 3: that day, as.

574
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Speaker 4: We know most minor league camp teams do.

575
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Speaker 3: So it's pretty funny to see that a guy that

576
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 3: was as good as he is even make the show

577
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 3: kind of cross pass with myself before my career even

578
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Speaker 3: got start art. And then I end up asking him about, hey, man,

579
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Speaker 3: we'll let you know it was I at least cool

580
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Speaker 3: or was I an a hole back then? Because there

581
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Speaker 3: was times I was I could be one. He's like, no, man,

582
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Speaker 3: you were great. I was like perfect, great impression then.

583
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Speaker 4: So I'm not saying that taught him had a hit.

584
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Speaker 4: I'm just saying I might have taught him a little

585
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Speaker 4: something along the way.

586
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Speaker 2: I think it's all you. You can take all of

587
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Speaker 2: that credit right there, way to go.

588
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Speaker 1: I mean, I wonder if his muscles were I wonder

589
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Speaker 1: what his muscles look like as a tender he already if.

590
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Speaker 4: They were not developed, because if they were developed, I'd

591
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Speaker 4: be a kid. I probably would have never forgot.

592
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting, Josh. You know, you say they miss Alvarez,

593
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Speaker 1: and they do. I mean his presence. I mean, I

594
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Speaker 1: know the production has not been there, but just having

595
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Speaker 1: his presence, But I don't think that would solve the

596
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,719
Speaker 1: crux of the issue we're talking about, because Jordon is

597
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: so good against left handed pitching that if you sandwich

598
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Speaker 1: him in between two right handed hitters, which is going

599
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Speaker 1: to happen when he comes back, Like why would another

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Speaker 1: manager even go to a lefty because like you'd still

601
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: go to the right because Jordon hits both sides, both

602
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: hands so well, he's platoon neutral. So it just kind

603
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: of accentuates why they need, you know, and it's the

604
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: answer is not Victor Carrottini, because you can't play both

605
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: of your catchers in the same lineup every day. And

606
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: when Jordon Alvarez gets back, the DH spot's going to

607
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: be taken up and there's no place to play Victor Carrottini.

608
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: So I wonder, like just getting Jordon off the injury

609
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: list is not some you know, cure all like, that's

610
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Speaker 1: not going to give the balance they need they need

611
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: they need just and again, it doesn't have to be

612
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: some middle of the order like game changing.

613
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Speaker 5: Left handed bat.

614
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Speaker 1: You need someone in that dugout that puts the thought

615
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Speaker 1: in the other manager's head of like all right, like

616
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Speaker 1: late in the game, six seven, eight, in the order

617
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Speaker 1: coming up, you know if I go to this guy here, well,

618
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Speaker 1: Joe has this guy on the bench and he can

619
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Speaker 1: can go like Joe has no he can't create any

620
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: platoon advantages late in games because he doesn't have anything

621
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Speaker 1: on his bench to do.

622
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Speaker 3: So No, I mean you talk about, you know, they

623
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Speaker 3: need a left handed hitting outfielder, and we've talked about

624
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Speaker 3: this before. There's just really nothing out there for them

625
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Speaker 3: to go and get, especially at this point obviously there's

626
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 3: no free agent that what you would want. There's really

627
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Speaker 3: no like big name that you can make a move

628
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Speaker 3: for either. Like it's hard, it's really hard, Like a

629
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Speaker 3: left handed, left hitting left fielder would be perfect, Like

630
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Speaker 3: you think of somebody like Ben in Tendy. But Ben

631
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Speaker 3: Attende's under a big contract with the White Sox, like

632
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Speaker 3: he probably wants to get out of there. But you're

633
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 3: not going to take over a guy's contract that big

634
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 3: who's not putting up great numbers anyway. For that matter,

635
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 3: you know, I really like the Alex Verdugo pickup, but

636
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 3: that that ship is obviously sailed. But there's definitely a

637
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 3: need for either a starting left handed hitting outfielder or

638
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 3: a bench left handed hitting outfielder. There's got to be

639
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 3: a left handed hitting outfitter somewhere. TV not even threatened

640
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 3: guy just to put that thought, like you said, put

641
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 3: a thought in the other other dugout's mind to go.

642
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Speaker 4: I don't know if I can use this guy because

643
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 4: he's got him up there.

644
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 3: Like, I mean, it makes all kinds of sense to

645
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 3: get one guy, But who do you go and get Like,

646
00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 3: who's the guy that they go.

647
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Speaker 2: And get one for you? How about a guy who

648
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 2: can play multiple infield spots and the outfield is left

649
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 2: handed and it currently has the second highest batting average

650
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 2: against righties as a lefty. Brendan Donovan on the Cardinals,

651
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 2: they're not doing anything but they're good now, they're good

652
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 2: for now, They'll be fine now, they'll they'll they'll crash

653
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 2: out eventually.

654
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 7: There.

655
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 2: They already tried to trade one guy to the Astros.

656
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 2: How hard can it be to just change the name

657
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 2: to get a different one.

658
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: Well, the weird thing is like they're at a point

659
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: where like they almost can't wait until July, like this

660
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: is something that.

661
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 2: They need like now, like Adam Lux.

662
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 5: I mean he already got traded once.

663
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 2: I mean again, I do. Look, I'm trying, Chandler, what

664
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 2: do you want from me? All right?

665
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 5: I know, and you're very tired.

666
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 2: You're very tired. I'm just very upset with you.

667
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 5: I don't like.

668
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: Look, Dana Brown deserves some some criticism here for how

669
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: this roster is canrued because they did have two options

670
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: in spring training. They had Ben gamble in on a

671
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: non roster deal. You know, he was a left hand

672
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: and hitting outfielder. They had John Singleton. John Singleton probably

673
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: doesn't fit what they're looking for just given that Christian

674
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: Walker and Zach Desenzo on the roster, like there would

675
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: really be no place to play John Singleton. But you know,

676
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: Dana Brown decided to reward Cam Smith and Zach Dezenzo

677
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: for performing well in spring training, and because he did that.

678
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: They are extremely right handed. They've got their bench on

679
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: any given night is like three of the same dudes.

680
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: It's like Chas McCormick and Zach Decenzo, or Chas McCormick

681
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: and Cam Smith, or Cam Smith and Zach Dezenzo.

682
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 5: It's right handed hitting.

683
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: Outfielders that put up the same kind of at that

684
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: and there's just no variance there. And you do kind

685
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: of wonder if they go into spring if they exit

686
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: spring training with Ben Gamble on the roster, let's say,

687
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: and they send one of Dezenzo or Smith down, you know,

688
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: they could force their way up here. You know, they

689
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: go down and they play well and they force their

690
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: way up here, and maybe the roster construction looks a

691
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: little bit different. But you can give Dane a little

692
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: bit of a pass too, because two of their options

693
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: that are on the roster that could have been left.

694
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: This guy, Taylor Tremmel still is recovering from that calf strength,

695
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: that bad calf strain he suffered in spring training. He's

696
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: a left handed hitting outfielder that would have given them

697
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: some semblance of balance. And then you know, Jacob Melton

698
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: just started playing again at Triple A. He's got the

699
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: back stuff going on. But with Jacob Melton you run

700
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: into the same problem that you were talking about with

701
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: Cam Smith and Zach Dezenzo.

702
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 5: Like his kid's never been in the big leagues.

703
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: He's an older prospect, he's twenty six, But like, you're

704
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: gonna bring this kid up from Triple A and like

705
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: relegate him to like a platoon bat on the bench,

706
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: like pinch hitting late in games against leverage right handed relievers.

707
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: Like no, if you bring him up, you want him

708
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: to play every day, And there's not really It's why

709
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: a guy like Ben Gamble or a guy like Taylor

710
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: Tremmell makes so made so much sense because these are

711
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: guys that you don't have to worry about giving every

712
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: day at bats too. You don't have to worry about,

713
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: you know, their development per se, Like you have to

714
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: worry about Meltain's development. You have to worry about Cam

715
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: Smith development. Those guys you don't really have to. So

716
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: it's it's a poorly constructed roster, and it's that falls

717
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 1: at the feet of the general manager. Because the general

718
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:26,439
Speaker 1: manager in baseball constructs a roster, you know, across the league.

719
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: Like it's not an astro specific thing. But Josh, I

720
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: do feel like we wouldn't be talking about this as

721
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,399
Speaker 1: much if like Josel Tuvey was hitting like jose Al

722
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: Tuve or Christian Walker was hitting like Christian Walker. Them

723
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: turning it on can like lessen this conversation.

724
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 3: We can, they can eliminate this conversation, right if we

725
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 3: just stop talking about one guy like I mean, we

726
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 3: preach about Christian Walker. It seems like every every show,

727
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 3: every episode that we do, it seems like we're always.

728
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 4: Focusing on him. And you know, when it comes down

729
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 4: to it, he's the guy that you have to focus on.

730
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 4: There's some there and that's that's just the guy. That's

731
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 4: the guy you brought in and get the job done well.

732
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: Because we talk about Christian Walker so much, let's talk

733
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 1: about jose L Toove. Right after a message from our

734
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: friends at Heel Territory, I.

735
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 6: Just want to say, before Arena Club, if you were

736
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 6: trying to very actively buy sell trade, it was very

737
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 6: complicated and used a lot of mail that was unnecessary.

738
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 2: I don't know I even know how to do it,

739
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 2: but I'm glad we have Arena Club now because it's

740
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 2: a one stop shop for everything card related.

741
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 6: It is and right now you can get twenty percent

742
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,280
Speaker 6: off your first slab pack or your first card purchase

743
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 6: by going to Arena club dot com slash foul use

744
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 6: code fo u L. If you're a collector, you've got

745
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 6: to check out Arena Club. Go get after it.

746
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: So, Josh, I understand the immense respect that you have

747
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: for rosel Touve that I mean, Tyler, You you also

748
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: share that immense respect. He's, in my opinion, the greatest

749
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 1: player to ever put on an Astro's uniform. That does

750
00:35:55,920 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: not or should not stop us from kind of discussing

751
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: what has happened since his hot starts of the season.

752
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 5: He woke up on I got to get the date right,

753
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 5: you know.

754
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 1: He it's one of these things where he's it has

755
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: not gone well since the beginning of the season. He

756
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 1: started off so so hot. He's got a five eighteen

757
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: ops and a one ninety five batting average in his

758
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: last one hundred and forty five played appearances. Like that

759
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,399
Speaker 1: is a long sample size, Josh. You've been around him,

760
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,919
Speaker 1: You've seen him in slumps, You've seen him get into

761
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 1: these funks where it seems like he's chasing everything, seems

762
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 1: like he's swinging out of his shoes. But that's just

763
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: how too vag because he can get the battle all

764
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 1: so much. Like, are you concerned? Are you concerned that

765
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: this is something more than just a slump?

766
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 4: I mean it can be.

767
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 3: I mean it shows something of you know, his age

768
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 3: and experience can kind of slow down your game. We're all,

769
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 3: you know, we all get to that point where we

770
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 3: kind of slowed down a little bit, and I think

771
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 3: we're so used to seeing jose be so great and

772
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 3: so elite. They we're just not ready for him to

773
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 3: start that decline of a career.

774
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 4: Is it a severe decline?

775
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 3: No, but we at the top of his peeking in

776
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 3: his you know, the peak of his career anymore.

777
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 4: No, probably not. His best years are probably behind him.

778
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 3: But I think when you're looking at still his numbers,

779
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 3: it can be concerning because you still expect higher hit

780
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 3: numbers out of our two v because if that's who

781
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 3: he is, that's who his.

782
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,479
Speaker 4: Career has been. He's always been able to get hits

783
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 4: regardless of what's going on.

784
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 3: But you know, this is probably the first time he's

785
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 3: ever struggled to this degree in his career either, So

786
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 3: there's could there could be a mental side of things

787
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 3: where you know, he's having a hard time.

788
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 4: Dealing with it.

789
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 3: You know, people when they have so much success in anything,

790
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 3: they have so much confidence in there, they don't know

791
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 3: how to handle that. And when you do it continuously

792
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 3: and as long as he has, it might make it

793
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 3: a little bit tougher to do that. And he's probably

794
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 3: putting more pressure on himself because you know, he's not

795
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 3: doing so well, but the lineup's not doing well. Everybody

796
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 3: knows your Don's gone, so he might be trying a

797
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 3: little too much.

798
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 4: And gosh, at this point, who knows.

799
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 3: Maybe the outfield playing is is taking an effect on him.

800
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 4: But I don't know if that's the guy that he is.

801
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 4: I don't think he's gonna let defense be a factory

802
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 4: because I mean.

803
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 3: He wasn't great at second base and he's still rags.

804
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 3: So I don't know if we can use that as

805
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 3: a crutch to kind of lean on.

806
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll push back on that just because he

807
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: he was awesome to start his first fifteen to twenty games.

808
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: He was like the best hitter in baseball and he

809
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 1: played left field for the majority of them. But it's

810
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: I have a hard time thinking that it's the defensive thing.

811
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: I just think it's I think he's just in a really, really,

812
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 1: really rough spot.

813
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:32,720
Speaker 2: I have a little bit more of a concerning stat

814
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 2: and that is he's making the exact same amount of

815
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 2: squared up contact as he always has, but his bat

816
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 2: speed is down two miles an hour from two years ago.

817
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,399
Speaker 2: It's down about a mile an hour from last year.

818
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 2: He's thirty five, he's getting older. I don't think that's

819
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 2: coming back. When you you know, he's swinging sixty eight

820
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 2: miles an hour, which is one of the lowest in

821
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 2: the league. That's okay, you know, it's not like that

822
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 2: prevents you from being a good hitter. But it is

823
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 2: down two miles an hour from two years ago. And

824
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 2: like I said, he's still making the same type of contact,

825
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 2: it's just not as hard. And when you rely on

826
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 2: so many seeing ice singles like al tuo ved does,

827
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 2: or you know, being able to just pull one past

828
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 2: the third baseman down the line, and if you're just

829
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 2: not swinging as hard one, you have to start your

830
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 2: swing a little earlier. You have to make decisions quicker,

831
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 2: So you're gonna have a higher chase rate, you know,

832
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 2: higher whiff rate because you're just having to start your

833
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,919
Speaker 2: swing sooner. But also the contact that you do make,

834
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 2: even if you square it up, you know, even if

835
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 2: you're still able to put bats a ball like you

836
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 2: always have been, which he's still able to do, it's

837
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 2: just not going to go as hard because he's not

838
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 2: able to swing as hard as he has before. And

839
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 2: I don't think that's going to get fixed, don't. I

840
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 2: don't think there's a trick to gain, you know, a

841
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 2: harder swing at thirty five. So yeah, that's that's definitely

842
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 2: concerning because, like I said, it'd be one thing if

843
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 2: you're looking at it, it's like, oh, he's just he's

844
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,760
Speaker 2: chasing at like a crazy raid or he's just whiffing,

845
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 2: and that's the slump that he's in. But he's really

846
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 2: not like he's still the same hit or he has been.

847
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 2: He's just not swinging as hard.

848
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 4: And he's probably not getting as many infield singles anymore.

849
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 2: He's still up there with that, but it's but it's

850
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 2: not it's not what he was using.

851
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not the same foot speed as he used

852
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 3: to be still probably above average in foot speed. But yeah,

853
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 3: you know there'd be days route two they hit that

854
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 3: routine ground or short and he'd beat it by two steps.

855
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 4: And you know it's there's those hits that up.

856
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 3: When you can get you know, ten to twelve of

857
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 3: those a year, then you take those away. That's a

858
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 3: lot of hits from you know, three hundred to two eighty.

859
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 2: Interestingly, he's standing about an inch and a half further

860
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 2: back in the box this year, so that tells me

861
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,399
Speaker 2: that he probably knows that his swing is a little

862
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 2: bit slower, so he does need to scoop back some

863
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 2: to make up for that. But yeah, I mean, losing

864
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 2: that much velocity on your swing is not ideal. That's

865
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 2: that's not what you want. The league average for reference

866
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 2: is seventy point five. He's at sixty eight point seven

867
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 2: this year.

868
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 3: Two year, he's still not He's still not all the

869
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 3: way back in the box. Maybe he needs to take that, yeah,

870
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 3: all the way back to the line.

871
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:30,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he still stands like way further up than most people,

872
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 2: but he is he has scooter back, you know, a

873
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 2: noticeable amount. He's standing a little more open than he

874
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:42,439
Speaker 2: has in the past too, But Yeah, two years ago

875
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 2: he was seventy point five, he was right at league average,

876
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 2: and this year he's at sixty eight point seven for

877
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 2: his average bat speed. So he's just he's not able

878
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 2: to swing as hard as he has in the past,

879
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 2: and I think that's affecting him a lot. And like

880
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 2: I said, I don't know that that's that's not gonna

881
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 2: get better. You know, that's that's not a that's not

882
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 2: a thing you can fix.

883
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: Two things that are are pretty stunning. When you look

884
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: at his season so far, he's hitting one ninety four

885
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 1: against forcing fastballs. He hit three h two last season

886
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: against forcing miss balls. And the line drive rate is

887
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 1: down to thirteen percent. He's a career twenty four percent

888
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 1: line drive hitter. So the ground ball rates up, the

889
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: pop up rates up, he's not catching up the fastballs.

890
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 4: You know.

891
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 1: I he's jose Al two va. I have a very

892
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: hard time writing him off or saying that this is

893
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: not when it turned, Like I I've seen it too much.

894
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: We have seen him get into these funks and then

895
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: like he'll go get twelve hits.

896
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 4: In this one. Yeah, he'll be twenty for twenty five.

897
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: Right, and just he'll be jose Al two va again.

898
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: But if it keeps going this way, like they're going

899
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: to have some difficult decisions, are some difficult things to end. Obviously,

900
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: they're not gonna they're not cutting ties with them, obviously,

901
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 1: But I mean, this is a guy that and I

902
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: don't know if you guys listen to the podcast that

903
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: I did with Adam Spoleane a couple of weeks ago,

904
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: but like we talked about this, like he this is

905
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: a guy that wants three thousand hits, Like he is not,

906
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: like Scott Borris said it at the Extension press conference,

907
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 1: like Joseo never come out and like publicly say that's why.

908
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: But just trust me, he wants three thousand hits. It's

909
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: gonna be really hard for a team to approach a

910
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: guy that has already moved a position for you, that

911
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 1: has already been so selfless in what he has done,

912
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 1: and tell him, hey, like we only want to play you.

913
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 5: We need to like maybe play you.

914
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: Like five times a week instead of seven, taking ten

915
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: at bats away from a guy that wants to get

916
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,919
Speaker 1: three thousand hits, Like that's a that's a tough thing

917
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,879
Speaker 1: to ask of a guy that's already done a lot

918
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: for you. And look, they're not there yet. I don't

919
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: think they're there yet. But as you're starting to see

920
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 1: Josh like he got moved down the third in the

921
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: batting order, they've they've they're gradually moving him down. I

922
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: don't know in this lineup. If you look at this lineup, like,

923
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 1: there's not many guys that are clamoring to hit in

924
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 1: the top half and he is still al TV, but

925
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: the actions speak louder than words, and that they are

926
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: gradually moving him down in the batting order is a

927
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 1: pretty damning indictment.

928
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 4: It is, and you know.

929
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 3: What they're doing that it's crazy because the big importance

930
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 3: here is like who who you?

931
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 4: Who do you put in the top five at this point?

932
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,720
Speaker 4: So there's really no argument.

933
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 3: Because you're like, well, this guy still holds out too

934
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 3: and without you know, even just having him there puts

935
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 3: more fear than putting God, let's just say cam Smith there,

936
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 3: like you just can't. There's nobody there that you can

937
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 3: put so for now, like and you know when they're

938
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 3: when they're one hundred percent healthy and going right, like,

939
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 3: he becomes that much better anyway, because you're you're just

940
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 3: as good as the guys that protect you and that

941
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 3: are around you, and you know, when you can get

942
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 3: back in there and have him back being maybe second

943
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 3: move east, soak back move however that around you want

944
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 3: to he's gonna be a better guy. He's gonna be

945
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 3: a better player just because having guys around him. But

946
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,919
Speaker 3: you know, the move down shows signs of like, hey,

947
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 3: this is something that we might have to consider getting

948
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 3: to that point, and you know, like he'd be like, oh,

949
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 3: hit me ninth if you have, I don't care, but yeah,

950
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 3: you can't take you know that, And that work becomes

951
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 3: more at bats to become a play a factor too,

952
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 3: because that niner hitter gets usually one less at bad

953
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 3: than seventy five percent of the lineup at night, and

954
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 3: those do tend to add up when you talk about

955
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 3: a guy getting three thousand.

956
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 4: Hits, and they can definitely add up. So if it's

957
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 4: something you want to continue to do, then this guy's

958
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 4: got to he's got to step up and do something

959
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 4: a little bit better.

960
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 3: But at this point there's nothing you can do, and

961
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 3: you just you know, you're at the point where we

962
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 3: wait around. We've been waiting around for other guys to

963
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 3: get hot, and they have it and they're still hitting

964
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 3: you know, four and five, So you really can't just

965
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 3: do anything. You just wait Frozer to get hot, and

966
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 3: he will. And you know, this is just something that

967
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 3: he's just got to work through. He's just got to

968
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 3: figure it out and work through it.

969
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 2: Now. Granted, twenty twenty, I know that season doesn't count,

970
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 2: but he played forty eight games. He's played forty seven

971
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 2: games this year. He had a seventy four or seventy

972
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 2: one ops plus in twenty twenty, has a seventy nine

973
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 2: ops plus this year. So we have seen this stretch

974
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 2: of that out before. Uh and he was pretty good

975
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 2: from twenty one to twenty four, if you recall, a

976
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 2: pretty good hitter.

977
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:07,760
Speaker 4: Uh.

978
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 2: So again, it's not like we've never seen this before.

979
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 2: But the underlying numbers of you know, losing bat speed

980
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 2: is concerning. That's something to keep an eye on. But yeah,

981
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 2: like you said, Josh, we're not even remotely close to

982
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 2: having a conversation of what do you do here? It's

983
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,919
Speaker 2: just that's Josel two Bay. You run him out there

984
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 2: until you can't anymore. And honestly, like we said, what

985
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 2: else are you gonna do? Who else do you want

986
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 2: taking at bats than Josel Tube right now. It's not

987
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 2: like they have a team full of superstars and you're

988
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 2: trying to hide al Tuove Like that's your best shot

989
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,280
Speaker 2: night in and night out anyway, So keep hitting him.

990
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,280
Speaker 4: Well, he's your French and he's your franchise player.

991
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 3: You talk about a guy, you go back to the

992
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 3: threes out, three thousand hit all the accolades that this

993
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 3: guy has done, has been in this uniform for this city,

994
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 3: for this place. So like, I don't care if they

995
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 3: don't win another World Series. Obviously he wanted to win

996
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 3: every year. But if they don't win another series, ho's

997
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,439
Speaker 3: how two is going to be out there every day

998
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 3: until he can't walk anymore to get those in that

999
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 3: uniform because at the end of the at the end

1000
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:12,399
Speaker 3: of his.

1001
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 4: Career, you're going to look back. This kid has brought

1002
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 4: you already two World Series titles.

1003
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 3: He's taken you there four times, he's taking you all

1004
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:19,760
Speaker 3: these Championship series.

1005
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 4: He's done so.

1006
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 3: Many things like this is a guy who gets, you know,

1007
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 3: the royal treatment.

1008
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 4: He's going to have the runout by himself at the

1009
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 4: end of his career.

1010
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 3: He's going to get his curtain call and do everything

1011
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 3: once he's all done, So fans, if he doesn't win

1012
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 3: you anything else, this kid's going to get you three

1013
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 3: thousand hits and at the end of his career we're

1014
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,439
Speaker 3: all going to be super excited and happy for him.

1015
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 4: And then that's what matters. At this point, we.

1016
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 3: Wanted to we want to win, but this if you're

1017
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 3: going to talk about moving and get rid of all

1018
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 3: the two van it's it's not going to happen.

1019
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: And as we mentioned, it would be the least surprising

1020
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: thing in the world if he goes and gets like

1021
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 1: fifteen hits in these four games against against the Mariners.

1022
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 7: Somehow.

1023
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 2: I did get to play in Oakland though. That was

1024
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 2: that was his get right spot the outfield where you

1025
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 2: can just poke it anywhere, and it was a hit.

1026
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 2: That's stuff. They took that from him Kansas City.

1027
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 3: Kansas City is a great spot for hits. But I

1028
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 3: don't know if he generally, I don't know if he

1029
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 3: does well there.

1030
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 4: But I have a talk with him.

1031
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 2: Famous I was good at.

1032
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 4: Getting him out of slumps when we played together. Maybe

1033
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 4: we can have a little chit chat and we can

1034
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 4: get him going.

1035
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 2: Well, you're doing the radio this week, so you'll get

1036
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 2: to talk to him.

1037
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 4: I've got access. I've got a little bad baby. Puts

1038
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 4: me anywhere in that ballpark I want to go.

1039
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, Josh, Josh will be filling in for Steve Sparks

1040
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: for this four game series against the Mariners. It's May

1041
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: twenty second. I am not sitting here trying to make

1042
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: more out of a four game series on May twenty

1043
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: second than most. But before we get out of here,

1044
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,439
Speaker 1: just you guys thoughts, I mean, this is there three

1045
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: The Ashers are three and a half out of first

1046
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: place in the division. They're one and a half back

1047
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: for the third wild card spot going into this again

1048
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: saying division standings on May twenty seconds a little too early,

1049
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: But it goes without saying like you can't get swept

1050
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: here because if you get swept, like you're seven and

1051
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: a half out and you give the Mariners a ton

1052
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 1: of confidence and the schedule in the back half and

1053
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 1: the second half is brutal for the Asher as far

1054
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 1: as like the teams they play. So again, this is

1055
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: not a must win, must take three or four thing,

1056
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: but like this is a big series for for for

1057
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: late day.

1058
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 3: I need a split. You take a split from these guys.

1059
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 3: I think you're you're sitting pretty good. Obviously, I think.

1060
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 2: They should sweep them.

1061
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 4: I should I think they easier.

1062
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 3: I think it's I think a split is something you

1063
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:29,879
Speaker 3: can walk out and hold your head high.

1064
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 4: Obviously you're not gonna gain any ground.

1065
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:35,280
Speaker 3: But you can't go ahead and expect to gain sweep

1066
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,879
Speaker 3: these guys and take the lead, and you know it'd

1067
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 3: be great to have that, but you know, focus on

1068
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,240
Speaker 3: getting a split. Get the first one out of the way,

1069
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 3: and you set the tone for the rest of the series.

1070
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 3: You know, it's hard to win a series when you

1071
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 3: don't win the first.

1072
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 2: One, five and a third two runs. That's what we're

1073
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 2: looking for.

1074
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, the pitching matchups. The pitching matchups do not favor

1075
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: the astros we just talked about. Lance McCullers will pitch

1076
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: that the opener. Then they'll go with Ryan Gusto on Friday.

1077
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 1: Promber will pitch Saturday against Brian wu which will be

1078
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: I know, Brown de Grom got a ton of attention,

1079
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 1: but Valdez and Wu is that's two dudes at the

1080
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 1: top of their game too. Brian Wu has like sneakily

1081
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: been like one of the best pitchers in baseball last

1082
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 1: year or two, and then Sunday. Who knows who the

1083
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: Ashers are gonna pitch on Sunday their TBA. Right now, Colton, Gordon, Brandon, Walter,

1084
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Speaker 1: Tyler Ivy is scheduled to start Sunday for Triple A

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Speaker 1: sugar Land. I don't think that's be the move, but

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Speaker 1: it would be his turn to pitch. That would be

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Speaker 1: a really interesting story coming out of retirement.

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Speaker 4: Well, you can bring Colton back up if you.

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Speaker 2: Go to the Yeah, they'll I L.

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Speaker 1: I mean, as we talked about that, they will I

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Speaker 1: L Ronel Blanco at some point. They probably can wait

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Speaker 1: and don't have to do it immediately because they'll have

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Speaker 1: a full compliment of their bullpens. So but yeah, because

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Speaker 1: like Josh alluded to, like pitchers have to stay down

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Speaker 1: for fifteen days after they've been optioned unless they're replacing

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Speaker 1: someone that's going on the I L. So they're gonna

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Speaker 1: put Blanc on the I L. They'll be able to

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Speaker 1: recall either Gordon or Walter if they would want to

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Speaker 1: do that.

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Speaker 4: You could, you mean, you could put Blanco on early.

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Speaker 4: Get your bullpen arm. You could send you a bullpen

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Speaker 4: arm down to bring Colton back up.

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Speaker 1: Well, well, no, you couldn't have to replace him because no,

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Speaker 1: because if Colton Gordon is coming up or Walter's coming up,

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Speaker 1: for that guy that would have it has to be

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Speaker 1: some they have to be replacing someone going on the

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Speaker 1: i L.

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Speaker 4: That's right, that's right. It doesn't it doesn't line up

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Speaker 4: for the ill stand that's right.

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Speaker 1: So they could I don't know what the how late

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Speaker 1: they could wait on Blanco, but yeah, that'd be the

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Speaker 1: only way they could get either of those guys up.

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Speaker 1: Or they could fake an injury with someone else or

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Speaker 1: or someone could you know, wake up with shoulder fatigue

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Speaker 1: or lower body soreness. Next is a good one here,

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Speaker 1: lower body discomfort, something of.

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Speaker 4: That ILK and they that's why they call it the

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Speaker 4: phantom d L.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they it's then you before and wouldn't be surprised

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Speaker 1: if we get used if it gets used here.

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Speaker 2: Josh, I don't want to tell you how to do

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Speaker 2: your job, but I would love Brian Woo call at

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Speaker 2: some point on the radio. So if you can work

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Speaker 2: that in, I'd.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate to do something positive for the opposing.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't have to be positive. I'm just saying it's set up.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you're gonna go a whole game saying

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Speaker 2: Brian Wu and not give us one, I'm gonna be

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Speaker 2: very upset.

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Speaker 4: I think I can handle one well.

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Speaker 1: As we just talked about, Josel two is gonna get

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Speaker 1: like sixteen hits in this series, Like you can after

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Speaker 1: after jose L twova Homer's off, Brian Wu, you can

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Speaker 1: call it.

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Speaker 3: There we go there after the two homer, we're calling it.

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Speaker 5: This has been fun.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate Tyler waking up and getting back with us.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations again and hope everybody is getting more sleep and

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Speaker 1: hope everything continues to be uneventful for you guys. You

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Speaker 1: can listen to Josh on the radio this weekend with

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Speaker 1: Robert Ford on Sports Talk seven ninety, the Ash's flagship

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Speaker 1: station for all four games against the Mariners. We will

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Speaker 1: be back on Sunday to tell you how this four

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Speaker 1: game series that the Mariners went. If it's a sweep

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Speaker 1: either way, I think the reactions will be incredibly loud. Sothy'

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Speaker 1: is a split and hopefully we can just like have

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Speaker 1: a rational discussion about what went on against the Mariners.

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Speaker 4: Thanks guys, we'll see who later.