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Speaker 3: And so it's not about me and their most base way.

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Speaker 4: in that situation.

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Speaker 1: Where an anybody with a heart, I mean, how do

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Speaker 4: It just stinks. But so what's awful about this is

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Speaker 4: that her situation is the very exception to the rule.

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Speaker 2: She is the exception.

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Speaker 4: Right. Her life is in danger. She wants to have

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Speaker 4: more kids. Her child is very, very sick, and they're

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Speaker 4: saying has no chance of survival.

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Speaker 2: They're saying none, right, that's what they're saying.

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Speaker 4: So, you know, this comes into a faith issue of

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Speaker 4: you know, science only goes too far and then you

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Speaker 4: got to give it to God. Now, I don't know

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Speaker 4: what would happen if she gave birth to this child.

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Speaker 4: She's already having a lot of complications. She's been taken

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Speaker 4: in two to three times at the hospital already. She's

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Speaker 4: clearly not doing well. Things are not going well. Her

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Speaker 4: life is in danger. She wants to give more life

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Speaker 4: to this world. She doesn't want to take this child's

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Speaker 4: life away. Never was that her intention. So, in my opinion,

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Speaker 4: not that any of us have the right to play god,

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Speaker 4: but if she has a choice to live and be

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Speaker 4: a mother to the two children she already has and

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Speaker 4: a future mother to the other children she has. I

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Speaker 4: think that there's a conversation that she needs to have

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Speaker 4: with her higher power, and that's her decision. It's not

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Speaker 4: like other people who use abortion as birth control.

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Speaker 2: However, that might.

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Speaker 1: Have been the most articulate explanation you've ever given on

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Speaker 1: this shot. Well, and you thought it would be controversial,

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Speaker 1: it was not. I think that there are a lot

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Speaker 1: of people that agree.

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Speaker 4: With us, probably, but I think the problem is Republicans

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Speaker 4: as usual stink at messaging and have never been able

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Speaker 4: to explain to people. Listen, it's a state by state issue.

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Speaker 4: Texas isn't gonna let you do it. We get it.

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Speaker 4: It stinks. You want to be in the comfort of

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Speaker 4: your home, you know, surrounded by the people that you love.

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Speaker 4: You can't because Texas doesn't allow it. Okay, what's the

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Speaker 4: next nearest state where you can have this up?

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Speaker 1: It is is she wants to preserve her fertility, which,

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Speaker 1: apparently my.

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Speaker 4: Point is even I agree with you one hundred percent,

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Speaker 4: But my point is, even if that wasn't the case,

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Speaker 4: even if she's like one of these other disgusting people,

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Speaker 4: who use it as birth control because they've made a

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Speaker 4: choice to not take precaution and they don't want to

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Speaker 4: do what they're doing, and they want to, like, you know,

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Speaker 4: just kind of we say disgusting.

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Speaker 1: I think people need to be responsible. If you've got

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Speaker 1: to engage in adult behavior.

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Speaker 4: I think if you I'm sorry. I think if you

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Speaker 4: go out and you willfully do what you're doing and

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Speaker 4: you're not taking control, and then you say, eh, I

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Speaker 4: don't want this baby, I'm gonna kill it, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 4: that's disgusting. I don't think there's another way to describe it.

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Speaker 2: I think I've got a way to say. It is

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Speaker 2: my way.

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Speaker 1: If you're going to engage in adult behavior, be an

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Speaker 1: adult and be responsible.

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Speaker 2: But go ahead.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of idiot adults as well, but AnyWho.

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Speaker 4: My point is potato potato, They can go and do it.

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Speaker 4: That's the beauty of the state by state issue. Instead

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Speaker 4: of Republicans saying, while we feel for this woman and

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Speaker 4: we are not in agreement, it's with the Higher Court

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Speaker 4: of Texas and we don't think that the right decision

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Speaker 4: was made here, we are grateful that the United States

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Speaker 4: of America has other places where she can go. She's

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Speaker 4: not having a back alley abortion. You know, we aren't

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Speaker 4: going back into the days of those, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, because of the constraints of time. Let me just

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Speaker 1: add because your point is very poignant here, and that

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Speaker 1: is yes, there are Look, the abortion tourism is a

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Speaker 1: real thing. You know, you can't get There are states

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Speaker 1: that will allow you to have an abortion even in

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Speaker 1: the seventh day and ninth month, which I think is

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Speaker 1: wrong because at that point the issue of viability comes

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Speaker 1: into play, where the child can survive outside of mother's

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Speaker 1: womb on their own.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's very, very key.

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Speaker 1: However, I just think Republicans they need to also and

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Speaker 1: this is missing Democrats every time they say there's no

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Speaker 1: room in a delivery room or a hospital room for

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Speaker 1: a doctor and a mother and the government, Okay, what

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Speaker 1: they're really saying is they don't want any restrictions on abortion.

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Speaker 1: And at that point they've taken the extreme position, which is,

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Speaker 1: hold on a second, somebody has a child that would

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Speaker 1: be viable outside the womb on their own, and I

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Speaker 1: don't know how you make that argument that that child

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Speaker 1: has rights at that point that ought to be protected.

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Speaker 1: The most innocent among us by the government anyway. Eight

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Speaker 1: and I think Republicans need to think about that overall

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