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Speaker 2: The worlds of vegetal podcasts welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. I

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Speaker 2: expect them, like Evan said, to be overly aggressive. What

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Speaker 2: the hell prime time it's all about me? Let's go defensively.

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Speaker 2: Do we need to worry about pressure? Yeah, please stop

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Speaker 2: Paul shows from grinding my gears suggesting to you. My

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Speaker 2: advice is don't worry about it. Just don't worry about it.

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Speaker 2: Don't let them bother you.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't know a lot of people my age

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Speaker 2: I could say something, but I don't want to insult

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Speaker 4: It's okay, this is one that I'm leading into, So,

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Speaker 4: I mean, it might not be Jamis, but that feels

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Speaker 2: You read stable coaching for his job or is it

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Speaker 2: pretty much all already? That's right? What am I talking about?

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Speaker 5: He's done?

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Speaker 2: Evan was kind of just lurking. People weren't going up

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Speaker 2: This is the real.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome the Patriot's Unfiltered. It is Wednesday here

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Speaker 2: at Jill's Stadium, and uh, it's kind of a weird

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Speaker 2: Wednesday for our show because we're not turning the page.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, nothing to turn the page too, except the

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Speaker 2: bye week, which very welcome. Here in the building. Players

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Speaker 2: are already gone. Right. It's like NASCAR just coming out

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Speaker 2: And I don't blame them, but we've got a lot

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Speaker 2: A couple announcements? Yeah, So, who wants to be the

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Speaker 3: This is your job.

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Speaker 4: Well, I will start with the first news of the day,

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Speaker 4: which was that Bill Belichick and Robert Kraft are finalists

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Speaker 2: So what does that Pro Football Hall of Fame?

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Speaker 4: So I think there were six coaches and they were

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Speaker 4: This process seems to get more complicated every year to me.

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Speaker 4: But they are the finalists in their category, so Bill

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Speaker 2: But just because of the finalists in their category doesn't

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Speaker 3: So it's Belichick, mister Kraft, Ken Anderson, Roger Craig and

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Speaker 2: The three seniors, one coach and one contract.

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Speaker 5: And they'll be in a group with the twenty six

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Speaker 3: We're talking about the body at large. I believe.

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Speaker 2: And Dutch it and writer and we will know the

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Speaker 5: Right, there'll be there anyway when we find out.

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Speaker 3: I love inducing Man's plains to me the Hall of

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Speaker 4: I didn't Man splain anything I asked him to explain it.

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Speaker 3: I know, it's just great.

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Speaker 3: I really enjoyed that.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to talk about it.

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Speaker 5: I miss what's going to happen. The ten Patriots that

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Speaker 3: And that's exactly what's and a half and I know it.

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Speaker 4: And there you go, and oh God, and the last

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Speaker 4: news of the day, which I could let Evan do

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Speaker 4: if you want, but Drake, Drake may may officially your

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Speaker 2: First time in his this last time in his career.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's crazy.

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Speaker 4: I had to go back, you know, the last time

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Speaker 4: that to twenty seventeen. Tom Brady wont it three times

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Speaker 2: So congratulations Drake. I mean, Drake had a good game

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting. I can see where the furrow brow

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Speaker 2: It's been an average games.

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Speaker 5: I thought that was one of his better games.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well he played with one of his best games,

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Speaker 3: But I thought that they were with Fred. I think

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Speaker 1: Like a statistically oh my god, this was the game.

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Speaker 4: Like it's kind of like you've been doing this kid,

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Speaker 5: Get statistically that's about I mean to eighty it was

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Speaker 2: I think. But usually when you think of offensive player

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I thought you meant in relation to May.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how you could play they.

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Speaker 5: I was trying to get to, Yeah, he played great

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Speaker 5: Week downplaying Drake May awards.

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Speaker 4: I hear what he's saying, though, I was a little

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Speaker 4: And I think the thing about Drake may too is

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Speaker 3: You know, they did a little bit in this game,

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Speaker 3: So you know, some of these fourth quarters, like they could,

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Speaker 5: Do you agree with that? I think they've been in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you take your foot off.

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Speaker 5: That's what kind of stood out to me in this

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Speaker 5: the end of the game. And Mike Rabel has mentioned

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Speaker 3: Phrase big on the five minute offense, the.

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Speaker 5: Ball in your hands. Yeah. Yeah. You know. Bill used

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Speaker 5: You know, everybody calls it the full minute offense. Verb

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Speaker 4: It's like these little we call it the green zone,

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Speaker 4: which it means go as coaches they do that too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So that's the news and it's all good.

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Speaker 1: It is good.

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Speaker 4: Drake is also leading in Pro Bowl voting, so he's

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Speaker 4: you know, Drake's having a moment.

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Speaker 2: Well deserved. It's uh.

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Speaker 4: I continue now just not getting right back into the

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Speaker 2: I hope I hope May doesn't go to the Pro Bowl. No, No,

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Speaker 2: he went last year, you know, because I hope we're

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Speaker 3: Well, do you hope that he doesn't win MVP, because

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Speaker 3: the winner of MVP never wins the super Bowl.

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Speaker 5: But that's broken my homes did it?

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Speaker 2: So?

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Speaker 3: Oh right?

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Speaker 5: That didn't go It did go back a long way

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Speaker 3: I do me too.

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Speaker 2: I don't care, I really don't.

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Speaker 3: I'm very adults.

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Speaker 2: I want to win the super Bowl, win the m

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Speaker 3: I'm losing sleepover.

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Speaker 2: This is so insane.

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Speaker 4: I literally was shook after that Raiders game in Week one,

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Speaker 4: and now we're talking about Drake Bay like leading the

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Speaker 5: To have a pep talk with Mike and.

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Speaker 4: Ring your hand if you were shook after the after

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Speaker 2: In my position, I have to plan ahead. And it's

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Speaker 5: That's gonna awards again, that's so m v P. Yes,

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Speaker 5: Like, I wouldn't dismiss their chances. You know, with all

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Speaker 5: I've seen Jacksonville a little bit and I can't think.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean maybe Mike's Carolina Panthers, But I can't

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Speaker 5: You know who's been big for him is the acquisition

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I just those schedules. I know, I don't want

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Speaker 2: We did yesterday.

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Speaker 5: I forgot, that's miles out at watch game right there

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good slights much better than last week

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Speaker 4: twenty two and a half, straight hand and watt TJT.

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Speaker 2: So I knew the players I was watching last weekend,

449
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Speaker 2: and we kind of redid our Infinity lineup and kind

450
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Speaker 2: of carved out some stuff that we didn't want and

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Speaker 2: we didn't know it. But doing that, we didn't get

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Speaker 2: the We got an NFL network, but we didn't get

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Speaker 2: the NFL Round Zone anymore. But from what I understand,

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Speaker 2: it's now littered with ads.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, just screen exaggeration, is okay, I saw that same

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Speaker 5: thing that you saw today. They do periodically pop up,

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Speaker 5: but you don't ever lose.

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Speaker 2: The Oh okay, it's just the commercial mind that you

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Speaker 2: barely don't mind that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I agree with Mike at this point, you've

461
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Speaker 5: seen it enough that doesn't you don't really even notice it.

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Speaker 4: There are dead points in red zone for everybody. You know,

463
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Speaker 4: there are points where like we got to just go

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Speaker 4: right now to the.

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Speaker 5: Less time for Scott Hansen to be misidentifying people in situations.

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Speaker 3: This last Sunday, like the one pm window was not

467
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Speaker 3: great anyway, and so they you could tell that they

468
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Speaker 3: just loaded up all the ads in the one pm

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Speaker 3: windows so that once they got to the better games

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Speaker 3: at four they could have didn't have to throw to

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Speaker 3: the comer. It's not that bad.

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Speaker 2: It's the way you read it. It was like they

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Speaker 2: were going away.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, people are outraged about it, and that's one I

475
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Speaker 4: don't really get out.

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Speaker 5: I am not necessarily saying it's not going to be

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Speaker 5: an issue down the road like when ESPN fully you know,

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Speaker 5: takes it over. And I do want to if they'll

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Speaker 5: make any changes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know that commercial two box and keep the

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Speaker 4: keep the stream up of.

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Speaker 5: Red Zone annoying, but you can live with it. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: it's no more annoying than when they do that regularly.

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Speaker 5: You know, they go to the squad box.

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Speaker 4: You know what I was thinking watching Red Zone this

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Speaker 4: week was like Scott Hansen on a long time without talking,

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Speaker 4: and I was like, I wonder if he's like on

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Speaker 4: a bathroom break, like what is you know, sometimes the guys,

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Speaker 4: I gotta I just I gotta go, like you have

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Speaker 4: to run off the stage.

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Speaker 2: Really, he might have one of those things.

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Speaker 5: Hour starts.

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Speaker 3: I think I worked with him at NFL Network and

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Speaker 3: might worked like.

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Speaker 2: His piss boy.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I mean like I'm not going, I'm not gonna lie. Yeah,

497
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Speaker 3: like you know, rich Eyes and waters and stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: You know, but it was I did like two or

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Speaker 3: three Red Zone Sundays. He doesn't move. No, he doesn't move.

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Speaker 3: There's a bathroom behind him, behind the wall.

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Speaker 5: It's a lot like Paul on Red Stones.

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Speaker 3: I don't move either, bike he I mean maybe maybe

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Speaker 3: once maybe, but yeah, he does the same thing. He

504
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Speaker 3: comes in on the mornings, he eats breakfast, and he

505
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Speaker 3: has his binder, research binder, so he.

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Speaker 5: Does he does research and still makes all those mistakes.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure.

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Speaker 2: I'm he's fine. I think he does a good shit.

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Speaker 5: Say this all the time. It's absolutely a me issue,

510
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Speaker 5: just and it's I think you're just jealous you want

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Speaker 5: to do that. It's the thing that Mike always says,

512
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Speaker 5: like he Mike just has this look that he looks

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Speaker 5: at me and just shakes his head as if to say,

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Speaker 5: how on earth do you know that, and I it's

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Speaker 5: a me thing. It's just there, random things that are

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Speaker 5: Like when a guy's makes a play and it's a

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Speaker 5: number for a team, I almost almost immediately know who

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Speaker 5: it is, and he almost never seems to know who

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Speaker 5: it is. He just misidentifies the guy so much.

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Speaker 4: Well, you spoiled it now for me when I watch it,

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Speaker 4: because every mistake is.

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Speaker 5: Again, come on, he's one of the one.

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Speaker 2: If you're a fantasy player, that man has been all

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Speaker 2: I care about his seeing the highlight.

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Speaker 5: It's also the excitement of the mundane, you know, the

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Speaker 5: over the top enthusiasm for like a third and six completion.

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Speaker 3: Very upset by.

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Speaker 2: This, God forbid.

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Speaker 3: Out of all the people that I worked, he was

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Speaker 3: one of the best. He's at the top of the list. No,

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Speaker 3: it's better than Colleen.

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Speaker 5: This is not about personal Like I've never met Scott.

533
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Speaker 5: I know I have, and I like which that's all.

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Speaker 5: So your other guy that used to get waterspo.

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Speaker 3: Oh, yeah yeah, waters coffees.

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Speaker 5: Pens.

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Speaker 3: Pens was always big, like you always had in my pockets.

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Speaker 3: I would just have like ten pens because these guys,

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Speaker 3: you know, they they'd never have a pen, so they're

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Speaker 3: like you have a you have a pen like, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: seventeen of them.

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Speaker 2: I've done that.

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Speaker 3: Just it was the best awesome two years.

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Speaker 2: All right. We had a lot of emails coming in. Wow,

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Speaker 2: it's really it's it's crazy. I love this show and

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Speaker 2: I love our listeners. They were always ready to engage

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Speaker 2: good stuff.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for keeping us at the top of those rankings.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, right, appreciate all the with the Spotify's that would

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Speaker 4: This is where.

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Speaker 5: I needed you and Evan to sort of fill in

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Speaker 5: the gaps. You know me, I just know randomness. I

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Speaker 5: don't know the specifics you got.

555
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Speaker 4: You got a couple of tweets at you of people

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Speaker 4: sharing their top listened episodes.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Todd and Rochester, says Fred. I'm surprised you've not

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Speaker 2: mentioned the timing of the Patriots by coming at a

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Speaker 2: Monday night game, meaning players are finishing the game at

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Speaker 2: midnight instead of say Sunday evening for a one pm game,

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Speaker 2: one less day almost two before playing Buffalo next. I

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Speaker 2: say this with your Patriots versus everybody talk and the

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Speaker 2: NFL hates the Patriots had on I listen to snarky

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Speaker 2: Paul's response.

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Speaker 10: No, I don't know them yea, other than the Giants

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Speaker 10: had the Giants. Yeah, this is they hate the Giants too,

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Speaker 10: So there it is.

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Speaker 5: It's a little snark.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's right.

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Speaker 9: Oh.

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Speaker 2: Spotify just released their yearly wrap up today. Yeah, we

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Speaker 2: get those this time of year. They just wanted to

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Speaker 2: share the time I've spent with the crew. I've never emailed,

574
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Speaker 2: nor have I called, but I love the new crew nonetheless.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for carrying the fan base through the Mac

576
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Speaker 2: Jones era and being the highlight of my Tuesdays through Thursdays.

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Speaker 2: So this is Patrick and he spent ten four hundred

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Speaker 2: and fifty seven minutes on Spotify listening to our podcast.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, top three percent fan. So I've gotten a

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Speaker 2: lot of those and I appreciate next year. I guess

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Speaker 2: if you listen to Spotify, you get an email at

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Speaker 2: the end of the year about how many minutes you've spent.

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Speaker 3: How many over ten thousand minutes you're an expert on this, Yes, yes,

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Speaker 3: thank you, that's ten thousand.

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Speaker 2: Doing the math, so it's uh one hundred.

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Speaker 1: I started to do it and then I was like, wait,

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Speaker 1: what minutes.

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Speaker 2: Three d and sixty minutes a week time?

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Speaker 5: Hey, francessa let's go one two all right anyway, free.

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Speaker 2: So good stuff. Always always like to get those emails

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Speaker 2: from people. Eight five to five past five hundred is

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Speaker 2: the hotline. Let's go to Dan, who's at exit one

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Speaker 2: forty five off the Garden State Parkway. What's up Dan?

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Speaker 11: Thanks Red, this is kind of a Wednesday before the

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Speaker 11: buy topic. I'll let our his thoughts to well deserve

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Speaker 11: bouquets around this scene in this season, I've listed you

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Speaker 11: so great job with episode one on the eighty five teams.

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Speaker 2: Thank you enjoyed it.

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Speaker 11: Looking forward to.

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Speaker 4: Episode two Monday, coming Monday.

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Speaker 12: Okay, great.

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Speaker 11: I know you couldn't go into with any death, but

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Speaker 11: you didn't touch on it. And I've done some research

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Speaker 11: into you know, football, both football especially never took off

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Speaker 11: at Boston before the Patriots and the reason those three

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Speaker 11: NFL teams and there was actually a couple of AFL

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Speaker 11: teams too mixed in there. The reason they didn't stick.

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Speaker 11: And even then after the Patriots came and it took

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Speaker 11: a little while, even after they moved to Foxborough's shadow

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Speaker 11: of the Bruins and the Sock, there was really kind

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Speaker 11: of a saturation point we reached here with kind of

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Speaker 11: damp in the markets for both football even you know,

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Speaker 11: even pro basketball didn't take root in Boston really until

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Speaker 11: you couldn't ignore the Celtics anymore. And of course if

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Speaker 11: you like both football, you always had the Giants. But

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Speaker 11: even beyond that, going back to the thirties, you had

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Speaker 11: good football being played here on Saturday, usually one school,

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Speaker 11: whether it was b C. Harbord, Northeastern, even Paul and

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Speaker 11: my Terriers ranked sometimes. Yeah. Well, and there are other

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Speaker 11: factors like this thing the Globe had for pro football

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Speaker 11: in the thirties and forties. But I think it's between

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Speaker 11: the Red Sox, the Bruins and Eastern college football. There

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Speaker 11: just wasn't much need for a pro football team here

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Speaker 11: until you got to the late fifties, when you know,

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Speaker 11: the NFL really took off. Anyway, That's that's how I.

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Speaker 2: Had Thank you very much, all right, thanks Dan. I'm

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Speaker 2: not sure the point of that, but no, I mean,

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Speaker 2: you look at places like Cleveland, all right, they love

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Speaker 2: their Browns, the Browns they used to be good before

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Speaker 2: the NFL. But the reason why those fans are so

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Speaker 2: hard it's a tradition that your father brought you into

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Speaker 2: and Boston never really had that tradition except for the

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Speaker 2: Red Sox, you know, and that's you know, the Patriots

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Speaker 2: weren't even on every Sunday because they were blacked out,

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Speaker 2: and so everybody watched Giants game and everybody became Giants fans.

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Speaker 2: You didn't have those traditions in other sports like you

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Speaker 2: do in Ohio in Texas. But once they started getting good,

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Speaker 2: like in the seventies, they built hockey rinks because of

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Speaker 2: Bobby Orr and the Bruins, yep. And then Bird came

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Speaker 2: around in the eighties. And now things have changed because

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Speaker 2: we've had a history of some good, good teams. But

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Speaker 2: back then, like like he's right, there was really no

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Speaker 2: need for a pro sports interest because there wasn't a

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Speaker 2: tradition like your dad wasn't watching, so you didn't watch.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's really the Celtics that what was your guy

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Speaker 3: Bob Cooseys them drafting Bob Coozy and him being a

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Speaker 3: Holy Cross guy and you know, being a local kid

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Speaker 3: like him, and Bill Sharmon like basically put the Celtics

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Speaker 3: on the map, and then they got Bill Russell and

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Speaker 3: then it really took off in the sixties. But it

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Speaker 3: was really the fact that Kozi was a local kid

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Speaker 3: and went to holy Cross and holy Cross is a

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Speaker 3: wagon back then in basketball. And then you know, he

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Speaker 3: went to the Celtics and and that was kind of

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Speaker 3: what started the Celtics history. I've watched like way too

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Speaker 3: many Celtics documents.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 3: That was pretty much what the Celtics would happen. And

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Speaker 3: then obviously Bill Russell comes and they turned into the

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Speaker 3: best team of the sixties.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, it's interesting because that's what happened with the

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Speaker 4: Patriots and Brady like, even though they had some success

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Speaker 4: the Patriots seventy six, seventy eight, eighty five, it was

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Speaker 4: isolated and it wasn't a star superstar players. I mean,

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Speaker 4: they had some superstars, but you know, like you said,

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Speaker 4: you're pointing out the players like Bobby Yore and Koozi

667
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Speaker 4: and Russell, and it seems like you really need those

668
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Speaker 4: superstar players and some sustained success to really get the

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Speaker 4: Claws in fans.

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Speaker 13: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And I think the other problem with the Patriots was,

672
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Speaker 2: like you said, sustained, but the ownership was always never

673
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 2: solid and people really didn't like, am I really going

674
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 2: to get behind this team? Yeah? And then when Robert

675
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Speaker 2: when they brought in parcels in ninety three that really helped,

676
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Speaker 2: and then Kraft bought it local guy, so people are like, Okay,

677
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Speaker 2: I'll buy those season tickets. They're not going anywhere, let's

678
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 2: support them now, and you know the rest is history.

679
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Speaker 4: As they said, I mean, Robert gets so much mileage

680
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 4: out of being a former season ticket holder, Like just that,

681
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 4: I think, just make connect with the real fans, and

682
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Speaker 4: especially like you said, I was like the crappy fan

683
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 4: experience that everybody had in the eighties, I think was

684
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 4: for me like, well, this guy knows what it's like

685
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 4: to sit on those ice coool bleachers and you know

686
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 4: all that, and he has the fans in mind when

687
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 4: he's starting to build the team, so he's it's been

688
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 4: such a key part of his ownership.

689
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Speaker 2: I feel like yep. Steve writes in Hey Fred, not

690
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 2: difficult to notice that you read emails from the same

691
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 2: people all the time. Sick of listening to the same

692
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 2: moron's opinions. Mix it up a little. I don't have

693
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 2: the memory Paul does or the talent you induce do,

694
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 2: but trust me, I could give you all a run

695
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 2: for your money talking sports. Here's an idea one hour

696
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 2: a week. You should have a guest fan appear on

697
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 2: the show, battling Paul for a Patriot's trivia show. Alex

698
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 2: could host lots of fun Steve in the North Country.

699
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Speaker 2: I try it, no, I honestly, I try to mix

700
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Speaker 2: it up. But if the email's not good, I'm not

701
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Speaker 2: going to read it, just because it's somebody I haven't

702
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Speaker 2: read an email from.

703
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Speaker 13: You know.

704
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Speaker 2: So there's certain people I guess that seem to know

705
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Speaker 2: what to write that gets my interest. I also like

706
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Speaker 2: during the show, if we're having a conversation, I try

707
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Speaker 2: to scan if someone's emailing in about what we're talking about.

708
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Speaker 2: I try to get that in there. But yeah, I

709
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Speaker 2: try to get new people in. But write something good

710
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Speaker 2: and I'll read it with good grammar.

711
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Speaker 3: It's really hard.

712
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 5: It's really hard to do it.

713
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Speaker 3: It's really hard to host the show and mondumails emails

714
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Speaker 3: at the same time.

715
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Speaker 2: Well, if it's just two of us, I couldn't do it.

716
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Speaker 2: Be really hard.

717
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Speaker 5: But I can.

718
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Speaker 2: While you guys are talking, I can be scanned.

719
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Speaker 5: That's what I always tease you. When we're talking about

720
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Speaker 5: something and they just say, whatever it is that we

721
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Speaker 5: just talked about, and I make fun of you. But

722
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Speaker 5: I know why you didn't hear it. It's because you're

723
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Speaker 5: reading four or five emails trying to figure out what's

724
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Speaker 5: relevant to our conversation, right, I think not an easy

725
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Speaker 5: thing to let me.

726
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Speaker 1: Think we've all done both these roles.

727
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Speaker 4: But it's like, it's so different than to just sit

728
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Speaker 4: here and be like, yeah, see us up, Fred, what

729
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Speaker 4: do you got?

730
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Speaker 1: You know, rather than like, all right, I gotta get

731
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Speaker 1: the phones.

732
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Speaker 4: I gotta make sure there's no Dalai and then all

733
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Speaker 4: of a sudden there's dead air and.

734
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Speaker 5: You're like, it's it's not as fun.

735
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Speaker 2: So Steve, it's not. I'm not trying to favor anyone,

736
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Speaker 2: just so you know. It's just it's just the way

737
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Speaker 2: it is. Herms in DC, what's up?

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Speaker 11: Herm Hey, what's going on?

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Speaker 13: Gentlemen?

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Speaker 2: How you doing all right? Hearm?

741
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Speaker 13: So two quick questions.

742
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Speaker 14: But before I asked my questions, I did want to

743
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Speaker 14: give you guys some props, right, because I think nowadays

744
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 14: with sports content is people just.

745
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Speaker 11: They make it obvious, right and just chase it clicks

746
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Speaker 11: and just.

747
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Speaker 13: Saying outrageous stuff.

748
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Speaker 3: I never do that.

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Speaker 14: Please, please do not change the tecreator show just stated

750
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Speaker 14: where you are, and just keep them what you're doing.

751
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Speaker 14: The first question is, and I Apolgast talk about it

752
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Speaker 14: in a show, but why is it that Robert Kraft

753
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Speaker 14: is now getting I guess close to being more into

754
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Speaker 14: the Hall of Fame? I mean he had what tension,

755
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Speaker 14: bold appearances.

756
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Speaker 13: It wasn't say.

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Speaker 2: Well, he's come close before.

758
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Speaker 14: Okay, I guess that's moves to me done.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, he's come close before. They just keep changing

760
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Speaker 2: the criteria and how they're doing it. And for a

761
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Speaker 2: while he had no chance because they mixed in coaches

762
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Speaker 2: would seem you know, so it was all mixed up.

763
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Speaker 2: Now they've separated again, so now he's got a you know,

764
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Speaker 2: a chance to get in again. But I agree herm

765
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Speaker 2: when you look at the other owners that have gone in,

766
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Speaker 2: he should have been long before this, Pat Bowling, I mean,

767
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Speaker 2: come on, yeah, it's it is And I don't know,

768
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Speaker 2: but hopefully he gets in this time.

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Speaker 14: Second quick question, and obviously I don't want to keep

770
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Speaker 14: bragging on Tom Kurrm, but if you got to help

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Speaker 14: me understand why he would have traded down from picking

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Speaker 14: Drake freaking May intellect.

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Speaker 2: J J.

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Speaker 14: McCarthy, Minnesota, Yeahcary nine and that goes back to my

775
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Speaker 14: point I made earlier right chasing, just like clicks and

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Speaker 14: takes right. That's one of the reasons why I got a.

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Speaker 2: Chance to amend that.

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Speaker 3: Well, I would just say, and I didn't agree with

779
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Speaker 3: him at the time. I don't agree with him now,

780
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Speaker 3: but the logic behind it totally sounds there. It was

781
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Speaker 3: an argument that we were having at a time like

782
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Speaker 3: the Patriots had a ton of holes on their roster.

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Speaker 3: They needed a lot of different things. So if you

784
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Speaker 3: could have added like two first round picks and the

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Speaker 3: eighth overall pick and then just drafted JJ McCarthy or

786
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Speaker 3: Pennix or something like that and get the capital on

787
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Speaker 3: top of it, I wouldn't have done it, But I

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Speaker 3: it wasn't totally would.

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Speaker 5: Have done it because I didn't really like JJ McCarthy

790
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 5: right exactly. But if JJ McCarthy was what he was

791
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Speaker 5: supposed to be, like kind of like a Tom Brady

792
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Speaker 5: NFL ready guy who played for Harbaugh in Michigan and

793
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Speaker 5: it has a pro background, you know, then it's an argument.

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Speaker 5: It's a discussion. I liked Drake May from the start,

795
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Speaker 5: so I could be like Evan and and Mike and

796
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Speaker 5: we could the three of us could go around and

797
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Speaker 5: you didn't like we could wait, Yeah, we could wait

798
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Speaker 5: about Drake and everybody's face and safe.

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Speaker 2: We were right, you were right.

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Speaker 5: No, that's not right.

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Speaker 2: At the time, I can understand the argument. Absolutely, he's

802
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Speaker 2: still saying that he would have done that. No, okay,

803
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Speaker 2: that's all I care about. No, No, and I mean it's.

804
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Speaker 3: And it's worth saying. At the beginning of the season,

805
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Speaker 3: he did say he would take JJ.

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Speaker 15: After the Raiders game, After the after the first game,

807
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Speaker 15: when McCarthy was terrible the whole night and then had

808
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Speaker 15: a great fourth quarter, everybody started saying, well, this is

809
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Speaker 15: the kind of stuff that McCarthy showed, and blah blah

810
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Speaker 15: blah blah blah.

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Speaker 5: And no, obviously he hasn't done that since, and he's

812
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Speaker 5: been hurt. His availabilities is in question. I just I

813
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 5: think too often we look at these now. Is Drake

814
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Speaker 5: made the MVP candidate, How could anybody have thought about

815
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 5: trading down from him? I think it was a rational

816
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 5: option at that time. At the time, the guy who's

817
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 5: never played a snap, I didn't I didn't want to

818
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Speaker 5: trade down. Evan didn't want to trade down. Mike didn't

819
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 5: want to trade down. We all liked Drake Man.

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Speaker 3: And most importantly neither de Delliot Wolf and Right And

821
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Speaker 3: for all the things that went wrong in the twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty four season, I don't think he ever wavered from

823
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Speaker 3: from sticking and picking Drake May.

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Speaker 5: And I think that it's easy to sit there and say,

825
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Speaker 5: and my boys do it all the time, like we

826
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 5: all was an easy call. He was that they you know,

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Speaker 5: the third quarterback on the board was available at number three,

828
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Speaker 5: you take them. And I would agree with the identify

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Speaker 5: the identification of May, I would agree with that was

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Speaker 5: kind of easy and fell in his lap. The question

831
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Speaker 5: would have been if May had gone in the top two,

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Speaker 5: would he have taken one of the other two or not? Right,

833
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Speaker 5: But there is definitely a question that Evan just mapped out,

834
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Speaker 5: are you better off taking uh, you know, multiple draft

835
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Speaker 5: picks and taking one of the other quarterbacks? You know,

836
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 5: what would the Patriots record be if it was if

837
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Speaker 5: it was bow knicks?

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Speaker 13: Oh?

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Speaker 5: And no, I think I think you can make an

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Speaker 5: argument that you you would have won you know, seven

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Speaker 5: or eight games with bow Knicks. I mean the rosters

842
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Speaker 5: not well. All apologies to our Denver listeners. Denver has

843
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 5: also one of the easiest schedules in football, which is

844
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Speaker 5: the point I was trying to make yesterday. There's a

845
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Speaker 5: reason that those teams win so many games. When you

846
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 5: play against a lot of middling teams to bad teams,

847
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Speaker 5: you're gonna win more often than not if you play

848
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 5: with good coaching and uh, you know, you find a

849
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 5: way to take advantage of bad football.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I mean wrong opinions.

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Speaker 4: Now that there were guys like Orlofsky who weren't as

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Speaker 4: high on May and thought he was going to need

853
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 4: time to develop. And if he really was a guy

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Speaker 4: that was going to need two years to develop, and

855
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,720
Speaker 4: I'm hearing that, then I'm seriously considering.

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Speaker 5: And Tom Current in particular, again not to you know,

857
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Speaker 5: like HERM said, not to make this a Tom Current

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Speaker 5: bashing session, because I think Tom does a really good job.

859
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 5: Plus I'm a little afraid of him, and I don't

860
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Speaker 5: want the head buddy. But with Tom, like he was

861
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 5: a big advocate of they're not ready to take a quarterback.

862
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Speaker 5: The roster's not ready, not talented enough around him to

863
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Speaker 5: take a quarterback, which I don't another argument that friend,

864
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Speaker 5: and I think all of us were against, but there's

865
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Speaker 5: logic to that argument. It doesn't mean just because we

866
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Speaker 5: don't agree with it doesn't make it wrong. It's a

867
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Speaker 5: different way of looking at it. I feel like the

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Speaker 5: quarterback is the hardest thing to get, it's wrong, and

869
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Speaker 5: when you have an opportunity to get it like you

870
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Speaker 5: did in that class, I think passing up one of

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Speaker 5: those six guys, to me, would have been reckless. To

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Speaker 5: draft Marvin Harrison junr, which a lot of people wanted

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Speaker 5: to do. You know, Joe Alt another one tremendous player,

874
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Speaker 5: Joe Walt, Yeah, right, you know a lot of people

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Speaker 5: wanted a lot of people do the draft before the

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Speaker 5: quarterback right where you drafted, draft the players, then get

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Speaker 5: the quarterback later.

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Speaker 3: Right, draft Joe Wall, draft this guy, and then in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, draft the quarterback.

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Speaker 5: And I think there's a lot of examples of teams

881
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Speaker 5: that have tried to do it that way that are

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Speaker 5: still looking for the quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm not saying this to like Victory Lap,

884
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Speaker 3: but I think that the it was very clear to

885
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 3: a lot of people that that quarterback class was really,

886
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 3: really good, and you don't get that every year where

887
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 3: there's three legitimate Like I think that Drake May, Jayden Daniels,

888
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 3: and Caleb would have gone number one overall if they

889
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 3: were in separate drafts, right, Like, if they each were

890
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 3: in three separate drafts, they're probably all three of them

891
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 3: were number one overall pick caliber prospects. And we see that,

892
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 3: you know, last year, I didn't. It wasn't really a

893
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 3: you know, cam Ward goes one overall, but cam Moore

894
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 3: would have been the fourth rated quarterback out of those

895
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 3: three guys. So when you had that opportunity, you just

896
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 3: you had to take it. And I think that was

897
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 3: really the consensus that in the end. But that's why

898
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 3: I want him to win MVP so bad guys much

899
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 3: as I want him to win a Super Bowl too.

900
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 3: Like when you when you evaluate the player, you know

901
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 3: he's good. There wasn't a it wasn't one hundred percent

902
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 3: for everybody that not everybody thought that he was good,

903
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 3: and then he goes and wins an MVP in his

904
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,720
Speaker 3: second season, Like that's.

905
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, all the tools.

906
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 4: I mean, he had all the tools, you know, and

907
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 4: there were some inconsistencies in his game, and I just

908
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 4: think he deserves so much credit for cleaning that stuff

909
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 4: up and you know, not having those game changing turnovers

910
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 4: that the brain farts, and again going back to the

911
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 4: beginning of the season and was like is he progressing?

912
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 4: But then all of a sudden after that loss to

913
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 4: to you know, the week three.

914
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 3: Even fixing the sacks, Like even though the sack.

915
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,399
Speaker 5: Rate is going down, it's definitely gone down.

916
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 3: So like now, like first it was turnovers, he has

917
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh game, gets that out of his system. Then

918
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 3: we make a big deal for a couple of weeks

919
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 3: about how many sacks he's taking, and now all of

920
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 3: a sudden it's been like one or two the last

921
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 3: like two or.

922
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 2: Three Rember, they keeping the eyes downfield game. Yeah.

923
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 4: Well, I mean early in the season too. I think

924
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 4: I remember watching J. T. O'Sullivan and just you know,

925
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 4: talking about his pocket awareness and movement, and I remember

926
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 4: in the early part of this season thinking, is he

927
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 4: can be able to get this right? You know, it's

928
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 4: it's not something that's easy. I just some part of

929
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 4: it feels innate to me. I think Brady was innate

930
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 4: on just knowing where one little step to the left.

931
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 4: And I'm sure we talked about it on the show,

932
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 4: but that to me it's just been remarkable, the stepping

933
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 4: up in the pocket, the little step to the left

934
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 4: and then still firing it, you know, and you still

935
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 4: see moments of little inconsistent but it's not game changing inconsistency.

936
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 4: It's like, oh he had a guy or you know,

937
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 4: if he just stopped, you know, but just so small.

938
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 1: It's it's it's hard to even pick.

939
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 2: The economy of his footwork compared to when he first started,

940
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 2: i mean, the number of steps he has to take

941
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 2: to get out of trouble and just make that move,

942
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 2: compared to last year, where you know.

943
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 4: Remember last year we talked about all the time his footwork.

944
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 4: That was like, i mean a weekly topic on the

945
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 4: Drake May footwork.

946
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 3: You know, just he would drift in the pressure a lot.

947
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, even drifting the pressure that was the quote.

948
00:42:58,960 --> 00:42:59,919
Speaker 5: That was the Yeah.

949
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 3: Now he like he would hitch up into the pocket

950
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 3: too much, so he'd be hitchit chit chit right, is

951
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 3: somebody's lap right. And now he's just you know, really

952
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 3: good at staying back in the pocket. And when you

953
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 3: have that kind of arm talent, you don't need to

954
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 3: like get all the momentum moving forward. You can sit

955
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 3: back a little bit, and he's got that rip through

956
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 3: move now at the ball that is like kind of

957
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 3: become his sickness, skipping.

958
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: Ripe, skipping ripe.

959
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 5: I like that came up with that, right, and I

960
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 5: think it perfectly describes what he does.

961
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 13: He did it.

962
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,280
Speaker 5: He did it in the Cincinnati game for Hunter Henry's stay.

963
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 16: Yeah.

964
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 5: One one quick thing, you know, talking about the footwork,

965
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 5: Go back and look at week one, his first touchdown

966
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 5: pass of the season to to Mario Douglas in the

967
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 5: end zone and watch his footwork on that play and

968
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 5: see how bad it is. Yeah, and then watch some

969
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:56,240
Speaker 5: of the throws that he's made since. Like something changed,

970
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 5: he just got it.

971
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 2: Evan, will you down playing playing at Denver? How important

972
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 2: it is? I never do that. Oh now, Neil and

973
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 2: Utah thinks you were. Evan is underestimating the impact of

974
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 2: playing at altitude without proper acclimatization.

975
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 3: I think the Patriots should practice on the top of

976
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:14,280
Speaker 3: Mount Washington.

977
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty cool, not high enough and the deafening crowd noise.

978
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 2: Alex tried to set him straight with the home slash

979
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 2: road splits, but sounds like Evan is not convinced. I'm

980
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 2: not talking about our history there. My first Denver nightmare

981
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 2: was eighty four to two per Flumbo. I'm just looking

982
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 2: at six fact loss. I'm just looking at facts along

983
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 2: with Seattle that is the loudest stadium in the league.

984
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 2: Measurable fact, no incorrect, just forcing fact, just forcing silent

985
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 2: counts is a victory for the Denver pass rush, and

986
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 2: they're almost guaranteed a couple of false starts each game.

987
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:52,280
Speaker 2: And while I understand Evan's confidence and Vrabel to prepare

988
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 2: the team, Vrabel can't change the baron metric pressure. And

989
00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 2: you can't acclimatize with an extra day at altitude. For

990
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 2: acclimatization takes weeks, not a day or two. Crowd noise

991
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 2: like crowd noise and altitude measurable advantages. Denver's talent doesn't

992
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 2: scare me, but that environment does.

993
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 3: Okay, So here here's here's a couple of things, and

994
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 3: I guess we're gonna do this, So we'll do it, okay.

995
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 2: Uh.

996
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 3: What I was trying to talk to Alex about, because

997
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 3: you know he he's with the emailer, and what I

998
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,879
Speaker 3: was trying to tell Alex was like, maybe you guys

999
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 3: disagree like he did, is Denver's record at home really

1000
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:35,479
Speaker 3: good because Denver's had some really good runs as a team.

1001
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 3: Or is it really good because they're they play at

1002
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 3: five and eighty feet? Like were they hard to play

1003
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 3: because John Elway was their quarterback and Peyton Manning was

1004
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 3: their quarterback for a period of time?

1005
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 5: Or were about or were they? And maybe Danny canell

1006
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 5: is at your larger point because when you look at

1007
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 5: like the Paige the home records in the NFL since

1008
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 5: two thousand, the New England Patriots have the number one

1009
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 5: record in the league since two thousand because Tom Brady

1010
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 5: played here for twenty years.

1011
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 3: I love ji Lett Stadium. Is it this great home

1012
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 3: field advantage?

1013
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 5: Not a tough place to play?

1014
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 3: Right, It's just because the team was really good? And me,

1015
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that I necessarily like, I'm not trying

1016
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 3: to say that it has zero impact. I'm just saying,

1017
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 3: is this like it's a correlation versus causation thing, Like

1018
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 3: is it hard to play in Denver because of the altitude?

1019
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 3: Or is it hard to play in Denver because Denver's

1020
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 3: had some good teams and a great quarterbacks.

1021
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 5: I would agree with your Lodger point, And I think

1022
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 5: Belichick used to spout that a lot, like, you know,

1023
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 5: what makes them tough to play? There is and he

1024
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 5: would rattle off the names at the time.

1025
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 2: Whatever they were.

1026
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 5: I would say that, would you admit that Denver is

1027
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 5: a you know, maybe they're a good team right now?

1028
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 5: Like I'm not calling them great, I'm just saying, you know,

1029
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 5: they've won a lot of games, they're good. So I

1030
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 5: do think that that environment and that oddity of their

1031
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 5: altitude makes them a little better in that building.

1032
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 2: It helps.

1033
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 3: I would also it makes a good team, maybe very good.

1034
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 3: The other thing that I would just say, like to me,

1035
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 3: altitude is an element. Right, It's like coming here in

1036
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 3: January and it's snowing Miami early in the season. It's

1037
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 3: Miami early in the season, so to me, and this

1038
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 3: happened for twenty years where a Chargers team would come

1039
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 3: here and they'd freeze their butts off. What was is

1040
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 3: they couldn't play in the col So if the Patriots

1041
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 3: go to Denver and they lose and the excuse is

1042
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 3: that they couldn't breathe because of the altitude, I'm going

1043
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 3: to say that's an excuse. Oh yeah, I don't right

1044
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 3: like that, that's not, but it's a reason.

1045
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 2: But it is just a little thing in their favor.

1046
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 2: I mean, like, sure, you know Miami wears white when

1047
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 2: they play down there because of the sun.

1048
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 5: Sam, is that what you do that?

1049
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 2: Because okay, why not do it?

1050
00:47:59,040 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 3: Exactly?

1051
00:47:59,400 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 11: Why not?

1052
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 3: But my point is that it's nothing more than just that. Yeah, right,

1053
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 3: you know, it's Miami's heat in September, it's our winters.

1054
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 3: It's Buffalo's wind in winter, right, like it's not.

1055
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 5: It's an element. Winter has helped us win even in

1056
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 5: the heart of like like the Brady dominance.

1057
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 4: Putting, the putting the temperature up, you know, like that

1058
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 4: stuff like ac game against Peyton Manning when he's you know,

1059
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 4: in d coming here as a weather team was a factor.

1060
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 3: It's a factor. I'm just saying that. I think that

1061
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 3: the players in the and the the teams on the

1062
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,800
Speaker 3: field and who had who's better that day at football

1063
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 3: is more of a factor than than mile hot.

1064
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1065
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 3: The Patriots are.

1066
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 4: Three and oh in Denver since the twenty fifteen AFC

1067
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 4: Championship Game.

1068
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 5: So okay, now they both started four and seven with

1069
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 5: Brady and Belichick.

1070
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, without Brady they're one and one.

1071
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 5: No, they're one and ow yeah, they'd they'd bed the

1072
00:48:58,719 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 5: Chad Ryland field goal.

1073
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 3: That everybody is still pissing. So that's the other element

1074
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 3: to this that I'm not gonna lie to you like

1075
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 3: I was at that game run when Bailey ZAPPI beat Denver.

1076
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 3: Bailey Zappy can beat Denver in Denver, and he can

1077
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 3: and he can survive the altitude, and.

1078
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 5: I want to you that was a terrible Denver team

1079
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 5: and a terrible Patriots totally right.

1080
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna take a break. Lots of emails,

1081
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,879
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1082
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:26,360
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Speaker 3: Exclusions apply if you're going to play the game Boy,

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Speaker 3: you gotta learn to play it right. DraftKings is all

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00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 3: about responsible game.

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Speaker 1: It's more fun when it's for fun, So played responsibly.

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Speaker 5: Draft Kings, the Crown is yours.

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Speaker 17: Gambling problem called twenty one plus age in eligibility varies

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Speaker 17: by jurisdiction.

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Speaker 19: Christian, how good was it to start the way you

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Speaker 19: guys started? How much talk was that going into this

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00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 19: game about getting off to a fast star You just

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Speaker 19: certainly showed a lot of energy from the beginning of

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Speaker 19: the game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 9: It was.

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Speaker 20: It was good to get out there and get a

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00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 20: get ahead of them quick and then be able to

1131
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 20: play from from ahead. I mean that's always good. You know,

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Speaker 20: Shout out to the offense, Shout out to Marcus. You

1133
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 20: know that that always sparks a lot of momentum. I

1134
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 20: think each game he's he's returned to touchdown. That sparked,

1135
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 20: you know, offense and defense. So that's that's a big

1136
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 20: part of a weapon we have. So I mean, as

1137
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 20: a defense is always either get the ball to Drake

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00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 20: or get the ball to to Marcus. So you know,

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00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 20: it was it was a good win, good good way

1140
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:19,919
Speaker 20: to come out fast. And finish the game.

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00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 21: Christian, how would you describe the impact that Marcus has

1142
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 21: on the team. I mean we saw it out on

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00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 21: the field, but even going into the locker.

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00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 2: Room as well.

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00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,839
Speaker 9: Yeah, for sure, he was voted captain for a reason.

1146
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 9: He has a voice and he uses it.

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00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 20: You know, everybody, you know, we look to him, you know,

1148
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 20: especially in the secondary, we're kind of all, you know,

1149
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,320
Speaker 20: we're real close in the secondary. So he plays a

1150
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,399
Speaker 20: big role. Being Nickel, He's got to travel around, he's

1151
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 20: got to do a lot of things. A lot of

1152
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 20: things are are you know, on your plate while you're

1153
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,240
Speaker 20: playing Nickels. So but I mean he handles it amazing.

1154
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 20: And you know, being in the locker room, he's one

1155
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 20: of the most energetic guys in there. At eight in

1156
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 20: the morning, he's in there smiling, laughing, joking. Sometimes I

1157
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 20: gotta tell him, all right, Mark, you got to calm

1158
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 20: down a little bit. But no, he's he's amazing. So

1159
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 20: it's awesome, you know, him being in the in the

1160
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 20: back seven for sure, hand on the team.

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Speaker 22: Hey, Christian, you guys established a physical tone right from

1162
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 22: the outset of the game, but there was a period

1163
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 22: of time when emotions started to spill over a little bit,

1164
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 22: some extra pushing and shoving. There was personal fall in

1165
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 22: the giants still on the sideline. What was Mike Vrabel's

1166
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 22: message to you guys in those moments tonight or the

1167
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 22: or the message in general in terms of keeping your

1168
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 22: composure as opposed to losing it?

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00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 9: Yeah, for sure. I mean it's football. Things like that

1170
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:50,919
Speaker 9: are going to happen.

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00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 20: You know, everybody on the field is super competitive at

1172
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 20: what we do, and like I said, things like that

1173
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 20: are going to happen.

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Speaker 9: And it's just you know, if if they get you,

1175
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:01,879
Speaker 9: you know, you feel like it's late.

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00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 20: Just you know, he always tells us, don't retaliate, then

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Speaker 20: just get them the next play, you know, take.

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00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 9: It out on them when you it's legal and you're

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Speaker 9: able to do it.

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00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 20: So I mean he's got they've got as well coached

1181
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 20: too to play within the white and the whistles.

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00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 19: So yeah, Christian, Mike has been wanting his quarterbacks to

1183
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 19: be careful going out, you know, along the sideline there

1184
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:30,320
Speaker 19: because you're in play. What did that hit from Christian

1185
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 19: do for you guys as far as emotion goes to

1186
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 19: get you guys?

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00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 20: Kind of going a little bit more Oh yeah, that

1188
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 20: that sparks some energy, especially on their sideline. It was

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00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 20: it was a good hit, clean legal hit. So I mean,

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Speaker 20: you know, we just can never relax on the football field.

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00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 20: So but Ellis was able to you know, go over

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00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 20: there and make a play and you know, they retaliated

1193
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 20: and it helped us even more so spark momentum. And

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00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 20: it's always fun, you know, being on defense that that

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Speaker 20: you know, you got linebackers that are going to go

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00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 20: up and hit like that.

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Speaker 21: Just after what you went through the last two seasons

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Speaker 21: wins and losses wise, how what is this experience like

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Speaker 21: and and why like why is it happening from your

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Speaker 21: view that the team has happened so much success.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I think a lot of it goes

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00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:25,320
Speaker 9: to just this. This team is so close.

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00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 20: I mean I've spoke about it from the time Phrase

1204
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,919
Speaker 20: came in and sat us down in here and told

1205
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,359
Speaker 20: us he's going to build a you know, we're gonna

1206
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 20: build a connection. We're gonna build connections and you know,

1207
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:41,359
Speaker 20: get close as a team. You know, we we got

1208
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 20: real close. And I mean it's just able to help

1209
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 20: us out on Sundays, Mondays, Thursdays whenever it is and

1210
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 20: our identity just being out there, go play physical and

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00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 20: just as a team, go out there have fun.

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Speaker 9: I mean, at the end of the day, you know,

1213
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 9: we get to.

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Speaker 20: Play a kids game for for work, so just you know,

1215
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:02,760
Speaker 20: going out there with that joy. You know, he always

1216
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 20: preaches go play with that joy and that that you know,

1217
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 20: that fun you had as a little kid. So it's

1218
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 20: been amazing, but you know, we gotta keep going.

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Speaker 9: Appreciate you.

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Speaker 3: And now great moments in.

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Speaker 2: History.

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Speaker 5: I'd rather be Damien Harris than Jake Bailey.

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00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 2: Damien Harris are barely dressed for games.

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Speaker 5: I'd rather be Haave. He's a player, he's a football player,

1225
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 5: but he doesn't play. I don't care. I'm not a punter.

1226
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 5: I'm not the you know, everybody a ring. But he

1227
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 5: asked me which one i'd rather be. I would take

1228
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 5: you one. If I had, you know, to choose between

1229
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 5: what I'm doing now with you morons, I'd be the punter.

1230
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 5: But if I choose between being a real player and

1231
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 5: a specialist.

1232
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Speaker 2: Plus being the running back for even just ten plays

1233
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 2: hurts a lot more.

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00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,879
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, what do you want?

1235
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 2: What do you.

1236
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 5: No sacrifice?

1237
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 2: No pain?

1238
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you're just playing.

1239
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 2: All the sudden Son Paul's newt Rockney over here with

1240
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 2: the sacrifice.

1241
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 5: That's another great moment, all.

1242
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 2: Right back here and Patriots Unfilterday five to five past

1243
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 2: five hundred is the hotline podcast at Patriots dot com

1244
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,439
Speaker 2: is the email address. Speaking of emails, Ramon and Tampa says,

1245
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 2: I've been wanting to say this a while, but it's

1246
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 2: really hard to write emails. I've learned a lot and

1247
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 2: improved my writing based on my own and other person's

1248
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 2: email experience. I've seen emails fail because there wasn't a

1249
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 2: clear subject without muddled interpretation. Then there is grammatical eras,

1250
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 2: bad subjects, inappropriate lengths, plus many other factors. So thanks

1251
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:54,439
Speaker 2: for helping us improve our writing. For those that still

1252
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 2: feel intimidated, just take the cruise chiding as positive coaching,

1253
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 2: good friends, and I'm glad we could help.

1254
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 4: I think like stops mid email with exasperation about I

1255
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:09,959
Speaker 4: don't know what he's saying punctuation please, Like, I'm trying

1256
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 4: to reward you for emailing and then you know I

1257
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 4: didn't have a chance to prove for it it ahead

1258
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 4: of time and you screwed me. Well, that goes back

1259
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 4: to the that goes back to the hosting thing when

1260
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 4: you hit like a lull and you're like, oh crap,

1261
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 4: and I'm just going to jump in on an email

1262
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 4: and then you realize you're on like a total turn

1263
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 4: of an email.

1264
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 5: I can't believe that.

1265
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 2: So help me out, help me help you. Dominic's in

1266
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 2: New York on the hotline. What's up, Dominic? Dominic? Oh,

1267
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 2: I know I'm holding on for a while, but you

1268
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 2: know that's the way it is. You must persevere. Jason's

1269
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 2: in Canada, what's up, Jason?

1270
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 16: Hi, guys, thanks for taking my call. Sure, first time,

1271
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 16: long time. I have a little pretend kind of question

1272
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 16: for everyone except.

1273
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:00,080
Speaker 2: For having Could.

1274
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 16: Michael want you, guys to pretend that you're the owner

1275
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 16: of the Patriots and you're very hands off the team.

1276
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 16: You're just the money. And Mike Frabele comes up to

1277
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 16: you and says, I need thirty plus million dollars to

1278
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 16: sign Christian Gunzalis. So you go back and watch the

1279
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 16: film this year. What's your response there?

1280
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 2: You go, I think I would do it.

1281
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, why can't I answer because I'm caring that

1282
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 3: you know too much?

1283
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 16: Somehow he's managed to cover every receiver on every play.

1284
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 13: All the time.

1285
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah, seemed like a shot. I didn't really

1286
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 3: understand that, but okay, So.

1287
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 2: Jason, is there a sort of reason why you're asking

1288
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 2: because you thought that maybe we would say no, don't

1289
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 2: do it, or do you not think you should do it?

1290
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 16: Just watching more games this year, he doesn't strike me

1291
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 16: as a top tier thirty million dollar corner. He's making

1292
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 16: all the tackles, but he's also letting them catch every

1293
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 16: pass first every pass.

1294
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 13: Well, I think.

1295
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 23: That's that's good this year.

1296
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 16: I find that he has been in years prior.

1297
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 5: I think you've been a little I think you're being

1298
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 5: a little hard on Gonzales. And I would probably say

1299
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 5: on this show, I'm probably the least enthusiastic when it

1300
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 5: comes to Gonzales, and I would say he's a terrific player.

1301
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 5: But to say that he gives up and catch every

1302
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 5: time it just makes the tackle, I don't think that

1303
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 5: that's accurate.

1304
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 2: And then how many times the quarterbacks not throw his

1305
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 2: way because he's gone.

1306
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Speaker 5: I think he gets targeted really infrequently, and I have

1307
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 5: to think that's at least part of what Fred's talking about.

1308
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 5: So what if I told you that I told you

1309
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 5: I'm not supposed to answer, but thirty what if I

1310
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 5: told you that his completion rate into his coverage is

1311
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 5: lower this year than it was last year. Yeah. I

1312
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 5: don't think that they've thrown at him a tremendous amount

1313
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 5: this year. Yeah, you know, just volume wise. I don't

1314
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Speaker 5: see him around the ball a lot this year.

1315
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Speaker 3: I do think that the system adjustment has been an adjustment,

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Speaker 3: and I would agree with Jason that they play a

1317
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 3: lot more zone now than they have in the past.

1318
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 3: And I don't know if he's a great.

1319
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, sung a play a little devil's advocate here?

1320
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 2: Do you play somebody? Do you pay somebody over thirty

1321
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 2: million dollars based on that?

1322
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 5: Yeah? I would so. I think he's one of the

1323
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 5: best corners in football.

1324
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 3: I agree, and but I think that the tiny weeny

1325
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 3: bit concern is if this is the system that they're

1326
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 3: going to play, and you want zone corners that have

1327
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 3: instincts in ballhawking ability, that tackle, well, like, it's just

1328
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 3: not it's not exactly his style of play now.

1329
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 2: I do think he's at a tackling I think.

1330
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 4: To its repertoire, he seems to be catching on to

1331
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 4: Paul he's been really good tackling.

1332
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 5: This one specific tackle that he he's excellent. Ad we

1333
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 5: saw it Monday night when the guy catches the ball

1334
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 5: and he's not and no one knows he's there and boom.

1335
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 2: I disagree.

1336
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 5: Marcus Jones is a really good tackle, right, that's a

1337
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 5: defensive back.

1338
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 2: Can be true. Both can be true. They're both good tacklers.

1339
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 5: I don't think that Gonzales is a really tackle. I

1340
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 5: think he dives at ankles and uses and rolls his

1341
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:20,680
Speaker 5: shoulder over backwards.

1342
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 2: I don't care how he does it.

1343
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 5: He gets them down, not generally the guy for the

1344
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 5: touchdown he was involved in that the other day.

1345
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 3: I think that that's the question, is you know he's

1346
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 3: an excellent player?

1347
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 5: I agree?

1348
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 3: Is he this style of corner that they truly in

1349
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 3: their heart of hearts want And if he's not, are

1350
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 3: you going to still pay that guy thirty million dollars

1351
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 3: a year to be a little bit of a round

1352
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 3: peg in a square hole.

1353
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:50,919
Speaker 2: You can play zone and still have you can play

1354
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 2: what they call man zone. You can have a guy

1355
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 2: I like this, you know, taking taking on their best

1356
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 2: receiver and still play zone.

1357
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 3: So nowadays in the league, you don't see a whole

1358
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 3: lot of spot drop zone because quarterbacks are there too good,

1359
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 3: So you don't see a whole lot of just we're

1360
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 3: taking an area, country, spot drop, whatever you want to

1361
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 3: call it. Traditional zone coverage. Most coverages in zone now

1362
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 3: has some sort of match principles because it's just these

1363
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 3: offenses and these quarterbacks are just too sophisticated and they're

1364
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 3: too good to just play traditional zone. So there is

1365
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 3: that element like when you're on the outside, like it

1366
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 3: might be Cover three and it might be zone, but

1367
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 3: you're man to man on your guy, right. But I

1368
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 3: think the difference with this defense is it's a lot

1369
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 3: more a disguised zone, like they like to spin the

1370
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 3: dial in zone coverage, mix up one high, two high looks,

1371
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 3: things like that. And I could see between that and

1372
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 3: the fact that I agree with Paul he's not the

1373
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 3: most physical corner. That's the devil's advocate, you know. Argument.

1374
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I would say, and if we can

1375
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 5: go back to and I know you'll remember when Stefan

1376
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 5: Gilmore first got here.

1377
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 3: Yes, yep, I've talked about this a lot on cakeshwink.

1378
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 5: Oh okay, yeah, so yeah, I don't I don't have

1379
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 5: to repeat it, just I think they played a lot

1380
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 5: of zones early on and he didn't look great, and

1381
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 5: they sort of got back to I kind of in

1382
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 5: the back of my mind think there's going to be

1383
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 5: some changes defensively, you know, more consistently when these games

1384
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 5: become more and more important as we get down the stretch.

1385
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 13: Yeah.

1386
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 3: So the Buffalo game in we five, I'm sorry. So

1387
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 3: they played forty percent man against Buffalo in Week five,

1388
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 3: and that was the first kind of like, Okay, what's

1389
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 3: your playoff game plan? Like this is a big game.

1390
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 3: It's Sunday night football against the division rival, Like what

1391
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 3: are you going to do? And what they did was

1392
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:44,440
Speaker 3: they manned up right, they played man to man and

1393
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 3: that Gonzales was back.

1394
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 2: And was that also to make sure they had the

1395
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 2: run taken care of?

1396
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 3: Maybe, but I think it was more that they knew

1397
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 3: that Buffalo's receivers were limited and they thought they had

1398
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 3: a clear advantage with their their corners are better than

1399
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 3: Buffalo's receivers because it.

1400
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 5: Can be a little counterintuitive to pay a lot of

1401
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 5: man against Josh Allen. So they obviously felt coverage wise,

1402
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 5: I agree with with Evan. I think they felt like

1403
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 5: that was a big game and they used kind of

1404
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 5: a different wrinkle.

1405
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I enjoyed listening Evan talking because I think this

1406
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 4: is a point, a debate point that's coming and I've

1407
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 4: been wondering about it, and you know, I would also

1408
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 4: clear it up for you now, not cleared up, but

1409
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 4: there the tip of the is he the aggressive, you know,

1410
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 4: like does his personality work against him?

1411
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 1: And like I still err on the side of what

1412
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 1: Evan got.

1413
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 4: The point I was going to make was when you

1414
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 4: get to the like caller, wait until you get into

1415
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 4: the good games and the teams that you need to

1416
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 4: be able to man up. You're gonna want a guy

1417
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 4: with elite athletic talent that can man up guys. But

1418
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 4: I do think that this is like a debate that

1419
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 4: we're going to talk about, are you going to fork

1420
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 4: over a boatload if there are some things that you

1421
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 4: don't love it?

1422
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 2: And also are we seeing Gonzales said is one hundred

1423
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 2: percent right now? Like is this hamstring kind of nagging him?

1424
01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 4: I mean I've seen no sign to say that is

1425
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 4: the case. But I think everything evn't said with the

1426
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 4: more zone, you know, the just the playing temperament, and

1427
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 4: I do think he's improved his tackling, But at the

1428
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 4: same time, I just don't think that.

1429
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 5: I don't think that you don't sign a guy that

1430
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:20,120
Speaker 5: you think is one of the better players in his position. Yeah,

1431
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 5: I just don't think that's good practice.

1432
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 3: I also think that you land on an elite corner,

1433
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 3: and you know, I would like to think that in

1434
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 3: the off season and this season, I think it's obviously

1435
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 3: gone way better than anybody could have expected. But this

1436
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 3: is more about like setting the foundation of the program

1437
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 3: and getting this thing up and running. I think that

1438
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 3: they could probably be more man heavy and be better

1439
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 3: in man coverage with Davis and Gonzo and Marcus Jones.

1440
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 3: So I wonder if in the off season, you know,

1441
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 3: does Zach Korr get in the lab with somebody that's

1442
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 3: really a man background, and like, do they try to

1443
01:06:56,040 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 3: find ways better ways to cover in man to man

1444
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 3: Because I've had my gripes with the way that they've

1445
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 3: done it, and so I wonder if maybe they you know,

1446
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 3: get better at it, you know, in the off season

1447
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 3: and they kind of I mean, it's schooled a little bit.

1448
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 5: What are we talking about, like just you know, off

1449
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 5: the top of our head, there's no research here. But

1450
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 5: like you know, Ctan Stingly, you know, I don't know

1451
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 5: if Sauce is still in that echelon. I think he's

1452
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 5: kind of slipped, you know, recently. I don't know Terrell

1453
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 5: in Atlanta, AJ Terrell J C. Horns pretty good in Carolina.

1454
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 5: Like where else are we looking like for a guy

1455
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 5: that that you think you feel better about that guy

1456
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 5: than Gonzales.

1457
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:41,439
Speaker 3: I think you're the only two that have the case.

1458
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 3: Are Stingly in certain is the best corner.

1459
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 5: So I don't. I don't, and I'll never understand this.

1460
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 5: For as long as I do this, I'll never understand

1461
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 5: why fans ever look at it from a money perspective.

1462
01:07:55,120 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 5: I understand obviously why teams do, but I never understand

1463
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 5: why fans will look at it and say, I don't

1464
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 5: want to pay that guy thirty million. Why you think

1465
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 5: he's one of the best five players in the league

1466
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 5: at his position? And I think five is conservative. As

1467
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 5: Evan just said, He's goingly get two, right, So one

1468
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 5: of the five best players in the position, you got

1469
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 5: to pay him the going rate. That's the going rate. Now,

1470
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 5: I can understand. I don't want to pay just to

1471
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:26,639
Speaker 5: throw a guy out there toua as a top ten

1472
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 5: quarterback in the league, because I don't think he's a

1473
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 5: top ten quarterback. You know, it's not about the money,

1474
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:34,680
Speaker 5: it's I don't think he's that good. I do think

1475
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 5: Gonzalez is that good. I think he's one of the

1476
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 5: best in the game at his spot. So I'm going

1477
01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:42,560
Speaker 5: to pay for that. I want to pay for that.

1478
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I'd also highlight two thousand and eight to

1479
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 4: midway through twenty twelve is a cautionary tale. When this

1480
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:52,679
Speaker 4: was the approach was, let's focus on the front seven.

1481
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 4: We can just get guys like Tyrone Wheatley to play

1482
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 4: zone corner.

1483
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 5: And you know those I could player that hits at

1484
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 5: corner right and you and will hire and so then

1485
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 5: in what happens in twenty twelve, they say, hey, we

1486
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 5: got to be able to manage Julian Edelmans go and

1487
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 5: get a keep to leave, and then it's to leap leaves,

1488
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 5: you go get revis. They went from Salem to t

1489
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 5: Leab with a black hole of wasted possibilities at cornerback, yep,

1490
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:18,640
Speaker 5: because they didn't have anybody who could cover the bottomatic.

1491
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:21,880
Speaker 5: No matter how great Brady was at some point the

1492
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 5: other team outscored them and they went home.

1493
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, that that's I mean, when you play the league quarterbacks,

1494
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:31,479
Speaker 3: you can't just sit in zone coverage there. And if

1495
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 3: you try to play a league quarterbacks in disguise, like

1496
01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 3: they don't care about the disguises, the disguises isn't going

1497
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:38,760
Speaker 3: to throw off Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen in a

1498
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 3: playoff game, It's not gonna matter. Yeah, So, like if

1499
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 3: you're gonna you have to play man to man because

1500
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:45,879
Speaker 3: usually with man like it's more about can the receivers

1501
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 3: get open at that point than it is about like

1502
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 3: can the quarterback read it out and like find the

1503
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 3: open guy. Yeah, So I mean that that's we'll see.

1504
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:55,000
Speaker 2: That wait on the playoffs.

1505
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:57,679
Speaker 4: Like it's it's a really good I mean, I'm glad, great, great,

1506
01:09:57,720 --> 01:09:58,599
Speaker 4: great question, Jason.

1507
01:09:58,640 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 1: This is something I've been thinking about.

1508
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 4: But let's wait till after playoffs and see how they

1509
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:05,439
Speaker 4: use Gonzalez and what Gonzalez does in the playoffs, because.

1510
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 1: I think that's where it might have a difference. You

1511
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 1: see his true value.

1512
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:12,640
Speaker 5: And I would say to Jason, I'm not blind. I

1513
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 5: think there's a chance that they don't resign them portrade them. Yeah, yeah,

1514
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 5: I mean I think that. Yeah, like he doesn't get

1515
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:22,640
Speaker 5: the extension that he's going to be eligible for for

1516
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:25,640
Speaker 5: the first time, will be in this offseason, and I

1517
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:28,840
Speaker 5: wouldn't be and it is I think I'd be disappointed,

1518
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 5: but I wouldn't be stunned by it.

1519
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 1: It's just the fifth year option, year two they got

1520
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:31,960
Speaker 1: to decide on.

1521
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 4: Ye.

1522
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it just it does seem like their defense

1523
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 3: is built from the inside out. Like it feels like

1524
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 3: they they like, what's more d line, you know, linebacker,

1525
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 3: Like that's really where they want to build it in

1526
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:46,559
Speaker 3: the front.

1527
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:50,639
Speaker 2: What's more likely they pay him probably at that time

1528
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:53,840
Speaker 2: the most any corner makes in the NFL, or they

1529
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 2: franchise him. Oh ah.

1530
01:10:57,160 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 1: I mean it's interesting.

1531
01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:00,280
Speaker 4: It's just how does this regime approach those kind of things,

1532
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 4: you know. I Mean there's part of me they've been

1533
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:04,920
Speaker 4: very aggressive with, you know, trying to sign big name,

1534
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 4: talented guys to big deals.

1535
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 1: So I wouldn't be surprised if they did the connect cash.

1536
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, the extension would be the more likely thing they

1537
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:14,720
Speaker 5: ain't going to get to franchise because he'll if they

1538
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 5: don't sign him for three years. Like he's out.

1539
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 3: It's Michael Parsons.

1540
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's out.

1541
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:22,719
Speaker 5: He's not going to sit around for two full seasons

1542
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 5: and then get franchised in the third season. He's not

1543
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:28,639
Speaker 5: going to do that quiet I mean he'll do it quietly, Yeah,

1544
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 5: but he'll be bitching about it.

1545
01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 1: But is there any I mean, this is a money question,

1546
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 1: but is there consideration?

1547
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 4: You got Drake coming up too, and he's probably gonna

1548
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 4: be the highest paid quarterback in the league.

1549
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 2: It's all part of it. But like I think he

1550
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:39,719
Speaker 2: can have both.

1551
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:43,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks Fred, you know, see that's one thing that

1552
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:45,799
Speaker 5: we've come to I think he can have come to agree.

1553
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 2: To wear that.

1554
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 3: You can definitely have balls. But it is part of it.

1555
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:50,720
Speaker 5: As Felger says, give me a nap and I'll show

1556
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 5: you how.

1557
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm talking about a sixty million dollars a

1558
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:54,559
Speaker 3: year quarterback.

1559
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:57,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's going to be he's going to be one

1560
01:11:57,439 --> 01:11:58,760
Speaker 5: one of the Yeah, he's going to be one of

1561
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 5: the highest paid quarterbacks. And Gonzale is gonna be one

1562
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:04,720
Speaker 5: of the highest paid cornerbacks. So that's why I will

1563
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:05,719
Speaker 5: not be stunned.

1564
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 2: Who is amazing agent.

1565
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:10,120
Speaker 9: We know.

1566
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:15,600
Speaker 2: I do, but I do you know you're not telling no,

1567
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:17,640
Speaker 2: you can't think of it. Yeah, I can't think of

1568
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 2: it because I can hear you know Lass down well,

1569
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:25,800
Speaker 2: you know when Tom bra stopped. Stop. We're not taking

1570
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:29,799
Speaker 2: that deal. U. Let's go back to the phones. Christians

1571
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:31,400
Speaker 2: in l A. What's up Christian?

1572
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 12: Hey you guys happy Wednesday?

1573
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:35,479
Speaker 1: Wednesday?

1574
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1575
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:38,599
Speaker 5: Like everybody else?

1576
01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:43,680
Speaker 12: No, not like I never like anybody else.

1577
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 5: Drake A sorry Christian. That's my faulty.

1578
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:51,799
Speaker 12: I could be I got I got to two points,

1579
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 12: and then I want to play a roundup group and

1580
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:56,280
Speaker 12: try to get.

1581
01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 5: Paul on three stumped the stumped the grump.

1582
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:03,680
Speaker 7: Hey, I'm in okay, So first first before stuffed the

1583
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 7: grump to two points, I think we have to get

1584
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 7: some sort of delated flowers to Gerard Mayo.

1585
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 12: And and Milt Milton. What what was our Joe Milton

1586
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:19,839
Speaker 12: last year? I think if g Mayo does not decide

1587
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:22,160
Speaker 12: to go for the win and Joe Milton does not

1588
01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:25,680
Speaker 12: decide to play his best game and and win, we

1589
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:27,640
Speaker 12: get the number one pick. And I just do not

1590
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:30,760
Speaker 12: think we would have picked Drake may at the number

1591
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:32,760
Speaker 12: one spot. Ruminate on that.

1592
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:39,599
Speaker 5: May did not get drafted in that draft. Will Campbell

1593
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 5: did Will Campbell?

1594
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:43,240
Speaker 12: I'm sorry, I mean, if we get the number one pick.

1595
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 13: I don't think we picked Will Campbell as the.

1596
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:47,720
Speaker 12: Number one pick, but I think we have a full

1597
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 12: different sort of lineup on the team.

1598
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 3: I don't think they would have picked number one overall.

1599
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:54,200
Speaker 5: I mean that that's possible.

1600
01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 13: You would have traded.

1601
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 5: They might have and they might have been able to

1602
01:13:57,400 --> 01:14:00,080
Speaker 5: trade down get more picks and gotten Will Campbell.

1603
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:01,799
Speaker 2: Yep and others.

1604
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying, got more picks and Will Campbell

1605
01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 5: or like, I mean, you could have picked somebody else. Yeah,

1606
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:10,720
Speaker 5: maybe you got on Membu later on down the road.

1607
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:11,840
Speaker 2: And so what are we saying here?

1608
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 12: So now, I just wanted to get the mails some

1609
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 12: flowers for trying to win and not giving us that

1610
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:23,439
Speaker 12: number one pick. But Will Campbell, who knows that you

1611
01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 12: would have picked them?

1612
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 2: Drum mail?

1613
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 5: The number one pick would have been valuable. It's not

1614
01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:31,640
Speaker 5: a good thing. It's not a good thing that they

1615
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:34,680
Speaker 5: didn't get the number one pick. Well, it never is,

1616
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:37,960
Speaker 5: all right, So we agree on that, all right, stump

1617
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:41,520
Speaker 5: the group. Sorry, but I'm sorry.

1618
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:43,719
Speaker 3: Saying Drake may the wrong draft.

1619
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:44,599
Speaker 2: People complain.

1620
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 5: Christian remains one of those things that's inexplicable. How many

1621
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:52,360
Speaker 5: people you know, I'm not This is not picking up

1622
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 5: Christian because he's one of a lot who have confused

1623
01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 5: those two years. I don't know how.

1624
01:14:58,080 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 3: Because we blurred them all out.

1625
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, ms in North Carolina, Hey, Sammy.

1626
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:06,880
Speaker 13: Yesterday was a good stuff.

1627
01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:07,760
Speaker 9: Edmond came in.

1628
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:09,560
Speaker 13: He made it a great show. He really got me

1629
01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 13: fired up.

1630
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:11,839
Speaker 5: Passion yesterday.

1631
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:14,280
Speaker 13: You know what I mean, don't We don't make the

1632
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:17,719
Speaker 13: schedule right now. I can tell you the fourteen games

1633
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 13: we're going to play next year, and then the rest

1634
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:22,439
Speaker 13: of them fall in place. We earned this last place

1635
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:27,720
Speaker 13: schedule and we're kicking everybody's boat. Milton game away from

1636
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 13: the noteboin n next year, we're playing the e f

1637
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:36,519
Speaker 13: C West in the NFC North. I can guarantee you

1638
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 13: can go boot that. And then we played six games

1639
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 13: in the AFC East. Obviously, like it's it's not our fault,

1640
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 13: but the silver linings in it is. We didn't just

1641
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:49,240
Speaker 13: go blow everybody out. There was actually some games in there.

1642
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:51,760
Speaker 13: They got a little bat assisted. When we played the

1643
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:54,800
Speaker 13: big dogs, they showed up, they grabbed their balls and

1644
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:57,280
Speaker 13: they went home. You know what I mean. On the

1645
01:15:57,479 --> 01:16:00,040
Speaker 13: road like, I mean, this team is for real. I

1646
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:02,479
Speaker 13: don't care what anybody say. Don't tell me that the

1647
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:05,679
Speaker 13: Giant said multiple double digit leads in the fourth quarter

1648
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 13: and lost them and then say, oh, well it was

1649
01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 13: the Giant. I don't want to hear it. You told

1650
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 13: me they had multiple double digit leads. You know what

1651
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 13: I mean?

1652
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:14,000
Speaker 5: The Giants think I told you that before the game.

1653
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 5: That's why I picked the Pages to win by two touchdowns.

1654
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:21,120
Speaker 13: Yeah, I did three tags. I'm just saying. Everybody was like,

1655
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:24,160
Speaker 13: you can't say one thing, and anybody lets the Giants.

1656
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:25,760
Speaker 13: I know it was the Giants, but we didn't we

1657
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:28,200
Speaker 13: didn't make the schedule and we were going into the

1658
01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 13: batle on a Monday night like that's the that's the

1659
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:33,439
Speaker 13: place to lay down. But now they grabbed their balls,

1660
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:35,559
Speaker 13: they knocked the end off their helmet and make them

1661
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 13: the Food York Giants. And you know what I mean.

1662
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:39,439
Speaker 2: I know what you mean.

1663
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:39,800
Speaker 9: Sam.

1664
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:43,559
Speaker 2: I'm with you, Hey, and I just.

1665
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 13: Watching the shows names with games. What if we call

1666
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:47,640
Speaker 13: them games incomplete?

1667
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:47,920
Speaker 2: Key?

1668
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 13: I take it.

1669
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 5: I hold on, Sam, No, I didn't hear the question

1670
01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 5: anding about the Chief. Great. I didn't get the Chief.

1671
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 2: I was coughing, and I didn't hear the question. Joseph Pennsylvania, Hey, Joe.

1672
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 12: Hey, guys, love the show.

1673
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:13,560
Speaker 23: My question is dis about the can't do that and

1674
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 23: mental All Pro? Yeah, selections, and like Drake May that

1675
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:20,600
Speaker 23: we're talking about him m VP. He's number one in

1676
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:23,360
Speaker 23: Pro Bowl voting, but so is he almost like a

1677
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 23: shoot in them for All Pro?

1678
01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:27,439
Speaker 5: I would think, But I would think he's got a

1679
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 5: really good shot for All Pro. But Stafford could get it.

1680
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 1: That's an ap thing, right, like one I believe.

1681
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 5: So I believe last year Lamar Jackson was the All

1682
01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:43,680
Speaker 5: Pro in John And yeah, why can I not think

1683
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:46,479
Speaker 5: of Josh Allen MVP? Yeah, it is possible.

1684
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 3: That was the first time in a while that they

1685
01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:51,720
Speaker 3: haven't been in lockstep. Usually it's the same voters, so

1686
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:53,800
Speaker 3: it really doesn't make any sense.

1687
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:55,720
Speaker 5: It's almost like they wanted to get Josh Allen on

1688
01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:58,519
Speaker 5: m v P and then they said, but really Jackson

1689
01:17:58,560 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 5: had a Betty.

1690
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:02,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I like maybe in the spirit of what

1691
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 2: an MVP is, you can make the argument.

1692
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:08,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think it's that iological. I don't think

1693
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:12,160
Speaker 5: it's that illogical, but yes, I would if May wins

1694
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:14,320
Speaker 5: m VP. I would expect him to be the first

1695
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:15,240
Speaker 5: team All Pro, but.

1696
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:16,880
Speaker 3: At least be first or second team.

1697
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 5: It's not a lock. Yeah, and to me, first team

1698
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 5: is the only team.

1699
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 23: But the other day I saw like with top ten

1700
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:26,080
Speaker 23: voting for cornerbacks for a f T wise it team,

1701
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:29,600
Speaker 23: Marcus Jones was the second a f T and Gonzalez

1702
01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:32,160
Speaker 23: was number three. Do you think do you think Marcus

1703
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:34,840
Speaker 23: Jones is going to make it as a corner for AFT.

1704
01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 2: As a corner?

1705
01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:39,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I was trying to I don't think the

1706
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:42,479
Speaker 3: Pro Bowl does is I AP might do slot corner,

1707
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 3: so they might differentiate outside corners and slot corners because

1708
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 3: I think they do the same with receivers too. Now

1709
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 3: there's three receivers instead of two the receivers, so if

1710
01:18:57,160 --> 01:19:00,280
Speaker 3: I'm right about that, then Marcus Jones says the FOT

1711
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 3: corner specifically definitely has a case to be an All Pro.

1712
01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 5: Yeah goodner. Yeah, yeah, I mean I think he's an

1713
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:09,519
Speaker 5: All Pro punt returner. So just like do you make

1714
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 5: can he make All Pro at jet.

1715
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:15,479
Speaker 3: Two spots on the same side of the ball, like

1716
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:18,600
Speaker 3: they put him as defensive end and that linebacker and

1717
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:20,559
Speaker 3: he makes the All Pro team in spots.

1718
01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:23,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to be pretty good to do that. Thanks.

1719
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:26,160
Speaker 3: Joe was like Khalil Mack and his Prime or something

1720
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:26,559
Speaker 3: like that.

1721
01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:31,240
Speaker 2: Mike and Florida. He says, why fans worry about money?

1722
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:32,760
Speaker 2: You know, we say, well, what are you worried about it?

1723
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 2: At your money? He says, And it's not because they

1724
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 2: care about the money, but because they consider a big

1725
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:40,800
Speaker 2: expenditure on the wrong guy slash overall scheme versus other

1726
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 2: guys out there that might be better for the team.

1727
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:48,519
Speaker 5: So so you don't want the player, right, Yeah, that's

1728
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:50,720
Speaker 5: not why. I that makes total sense to me. I

1729
01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 5: that email makes total sense to me. I think he

1730
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 5: might not be a scheme fit or you know, that's

1731
01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:57,639
Speaker 5: why we walk away from Kyle Duggar because we didn't

1732
01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:00,439
Speaker 5: think he was necessarily the right fit the scheme.

1733
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:00,760
Speaker 2: Yep.

1734
01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 3: I worry about money because I understand that everything has

1735
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:06,600
Speaker 3: a budget. Sure, so like if you're a given.

1736
01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 2: That means you can't get something else you have to

1737
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:09,040
Speaker 2: consider it.

1738
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 3: I don't worry about the money for any other reason. Besides,

1739
01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:15,360
Speaker 3: it's a business. And like you realize that someday you

1740
01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 3: wake up and realize, like this isn't a never ending

1741
01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:20,760
Speaker 3: piggy bank here that just keeps going and going.

1742
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 5: No, but that's like we're talking like the cash out

1743
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:27,559
Speaker 5: kind of thing. Yeah, in a particular time, like they

1744
01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:30,599
Speaker 5: they put out a lot of cash this particular off

1745
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:33,720
Speaker 5: season they have they did. Yeah, you know, I know,

1746
01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:36,439
Speaker 5: you know, the narrative is how cheap everybody is around here.

1747
01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:38,640
Speaker 5: But they the Patriots spent a lot of cash this

1748
01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 5: off season on a lot of free agents. I don't

1749
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 5: think it's probably likely that they do it again this

1750
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:49,519
Speaker 5: coming off season because of what Evan's talking about. Everybody

1751
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:53,280
Speaker 5: has budgets. Yeah, that's cash out. That is not like

1752
01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:55,640
Speaker 5: it's not like, oh, we can't sign him to a

1753
01:20:56,160 --> 01:20:57,800
Speaker 5: you know, a five year deal because our cap is

1754
01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:00,840
Speaker 5: going to be in a bad situation. No, it's this

1755
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:04,760
Speaker 5: one particular year. It might stop you from getting three

1756
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:07,080
Speaker 5: other guys that you might have wanted to get because

1757
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:09,120
Speaker 5: I don't have the cash to lay out as signing

1758
01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:11,920
Speaker 5: bonuses which are going to entice a free agent. That

1759
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:12,719
Speaker 5: is different.

1760
01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:13,600
Speaker 1: Scares me.

1761
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:16,559
Speaker 4: Scares me because I think looking at the schedule next

1762
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 4: year and how the team will be viewed by the

1763
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:21,280
Speaker 4: rest of the NFL, I think you need to take

1764
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:22,679
Speaker 4: a big step forward this offseason.

1765
01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:25,720
Speaker 2: I think you cannot think, oh, we got from the

1766
01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:26,280
Speaker 2: super Bowl.

1767
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:27,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, from the super Bowl.

1768
01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:30,120
Speaker 4: It's like oh three where you went and got Corey

1769
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:32,479
Speaker 4: Dillon and I know, and maybe not a money, but

1770
01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:37,200
Speaker 4: you continue to evolve and change the equation. Whereas if

1771
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:39,320
Speaker 4: I think, if this team tries to stay pat and

1772
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:40,800
Speaker 4: you know, and they have a lot of these guys

1773
01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:43,479
Speaker 4: coming and they have holes, but you have to you

1774
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:45,760
Speaker 4: have to improve, I think in the spring with the

1775
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 4: roster because teams are gonna be gunning for you next year.

1776
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:51,560
Speaker 1: The schedules tougher. You're gonna have to play betters.

1777
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:53,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'm not suggesting they're not going to.

1778
01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:55,160
Speaker 1: But you're right, you're right.

1779
01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:58,200
Speaker 4: And I think that it puts some pressure on guys

1780
01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:01,439
Speaker 4: like Ellio Wolf and Ryan Cowden into identify good players

1781
01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:02,160
Speaker 4: like they did this year.

1782
01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 5: Weren't going to make Williams like twenty six million a

1783
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:09,240
Speaker 5: year like Milton Williams. Yeah, I'm not expecting that. Yeah,

1784
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:10,920
Speaker 5: I do what I mean, I'm not expecting they're going

1785
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:12,600
Speaker 5: to set the market out of that. He was the

1786
01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:14,639
Speaker 5: highest paid defensive tackle in trade.

1787
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:14,800
Speaker 2: Agent.

1788
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 3: I do wonder though, if it is like one splash like,

1789
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:21,439
Speaker 3: do they make that one trade or that's a J.

1790
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:21,800
Speaker 8: Brown?

1791
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:23,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, a J Brown, you know something like that.

1792
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:26,600
Speaker 5: I would not rule that out. Yeah, I would not

1793
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:27,479
Speaker 5: rule something like that.

1794
01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 3: It's funny you read my mind, Paul. If I had

1795
01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:31,880
Speaker 3: to pay it, put a guess on who it would be,

1796
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:32,519
Speaker 3: it would be him.

1797
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:33,040
Speaker 13: Yeah.

1798
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 1: I like the trade. I like the trade.

1799
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:34,720
Speaker 13: Thing.

1800
01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:38,479
Speaker 5: I'm not saying I'm eliminating departability of them improving because

1801
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:41,280
Speaker 5: I think that they're I don't want to go down

1802
01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:43,720
Speaker 5: this rabbit hole again, Okay, but I think Mike is

1803
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:46,679
Speaker 5: trying to say, and I'll say, get harder because because

1804
01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:49,960
Speaker 5: you're nicer than me, I'll just say it. Okay. I

1805
01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:51,800
Speaker 5: don't think that they look at this team as being

1806
01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:54,720
Speaker 5: as talented as some of the other teams, and they

1807
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 5: think if they just sit tight and stand pat that

1808
01:22:58,240 --> 01:23:00,559
Speaker 5: won't be good enough next year when the the level

1809
01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:04,559
Speaker 5: of competition increases, so they're going to need to get better. Yeah.

1810
01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:06,720
Speaker 4: And then there's also think that they know that the

1811
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:08,559
Speaker 4: thing working in their favor is you have Drake may.

1812
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:10,960
Speaker 4: Now you have some reasons for people to want to

1813
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:12,920
Speaker 4: come here, so maybe that can help grease the wheels

1814
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:13,400
Speaker 4: a little bit.

1815
01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:15,920
Speaker 2: But because they get better. They could have been thirteen

1816
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:18,200
Speaker 2: and oh this two, but.

1817
01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:20,880
Speaker 3: Drake May and you know that's why like A. J.

1818
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:24,840
Speaker 5: Brown comes up right and they lost to the Raiders.

1819
01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:26,639
Speaker 5: You don't think they could have been better than eleven

1820
01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:27,000
Speaker 5: and two.

1821
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:28,519
Speaker 2: You can't win them all.

1822
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:31,600
Speaker 5: I understand seven, And I'm just saying they lost to

1823
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 5: like one really bad team and one really mid team.

1824
01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:37,640
Speaker 4: But I just I think I need to say it

1825
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 4: right now. And this is somebody probably they could very

1826
01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:42,840
Speaker 4: likely have a worse record next year, but be a.

1827
01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:46,000
Speaker 5: Better team, no doubt. We say that all the time.

1828
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:49,960
Speaker 2: Yep. Zach and Sinsey wanted to highlight the fact that

1829
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 2: with Gonzales playing, the team is not lost, not that

1830
01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:56,120
Speaker 2: he gets all the credit because over all the defenses

1831
01:23:56,160 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 2: performing well as a unit. Runde missus Milt. Looking at

1832
01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:03,040
Speaker 2: the rest of the season, including playoffs, it seems that

1833
01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:06,880
Speaker 2: Christian has a clear advantage on other teams wide receiver ones.

1834
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:09,599
Speaker 2: We could go on a stretch where the best wide

1835
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:13,400
Speaker 2: receiver we face is Courtland Sutton. What wide receiver matchup

1836
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:16,559
Speaker 2: scares you, guys? The inevitable Super Bowl matchup against the Rams.

1837
01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's right though, I mean, but I just

1838
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:24,360
Speaker 4: think Gonzales generally is an awesome athlete. And whether you're

1839
01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:26,040
Speaker 4: asking him to man up one of the best wide

1840
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:29,360
Speaker 4: receivers in the game or an average wide receiver, He's

1841
01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:30,679
Speaker 4: going to do a pretty good job.

1842
01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:32,320
Speaker 1: And you know, I got a lot of confidence.

1843
01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:35,320
Speaker 3: I like, I don't worry about him. I worry about

1844
01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 3: how they use him, like I do. And I'm not

1845
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:41,560
Speaker 3: saying that in like, no, I guess every run of

1846
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:44,640
Speaker 3: the mill coordinator. But like he brings up Pooka in

1847
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:46,200
Speaker 3: the Rams in the super Bowl.

1848
01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:47,559
Speaker 1: Like Devant Adams.

1849
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:52,599
Speaker 3: Sean McVay against Zach Korr in the Super Bowl is politely.

1850
01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:55,120
Speaker 5: You know, he can't change to all his owness, So

1851
01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:57,680
Speaker 5: so like you know, like what what he's really the

1852
01:24:57,760 --> 01:25:00,439
Speaker 5: way you switch it up? What is it look like

1853
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:03,920
Speaker 5: if he goes up against Sean McVay, if he goes

1854
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:08,759
Speaker 5: up against Andy Reid, if he goes up against Ben Johnson.

1855
01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:09,519
Speaker 2: You know, like.

1856
01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:13,920
Speaker 5: The pregame might have Zach Korr going up to Sean mcface.

1857
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 5: Where do you have guys in motion? Three tight ends? Awesome?

1858
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:23,080
Speaker 5: Those three tight end look.

1859
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:25,439
Speaker 3: Through the sea gas.

1860
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 1: You should have had like Bill on the inside with

1861
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 1: fit what you store for you tonight.

1862
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:33,639
Speaker 3: We changed our whole defense going into this game.

1863
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:40,000
Speaker 2: You have no idea. Joby writes in uh back to

1864
01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:43,760
Speaker 2: the Denver Conversation. I moved from Boston to Boulder, Colorado

1865
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 2: in the late nineties and stayed a few years before

1866
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:49,080
Speaker 2: departing to California. I was a bike racer, and when

1867
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:52,120
Speaker 2: I first got to Cali, I crushed other writers in

1868
01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:55,040
Speaker 2: my category. I think the Bronco players may have an

1869
01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:57,880
Speaker 2: aerobic advantage over sea level players that may come into

1870
01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:00,599
Speaker 2: play at times. So we're saying that, like the Olympic

1871
01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:02,719
Speaker 2: teams train there right, Like that's where the West Olympic

1872
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:05,640
Speaker 2: headquarters systems. Yeah, there's a reason why I will tell

1873
01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:10,240
Speaker 2: you my story about going to Colorado and biking and no,

1874
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:13,680
Speaker 2: oh should I tell this biking? Why not?

1875
01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:14,720
Speaker 7: No?

1876
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:17,040
Speaker 2: So back in the nineties, I was working on this

1877
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:22,320
Speaker 2: other project. We wanted to start this business for getting

1878
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:25,400
Speaker 2: all the national governing bodies of Olympic sports onto one

1879
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:28,639
Speaker 2: website so fans could go and blah blah. So myself

1880
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:32,920
Speaker 2: an Olympic silver medalist named Eric Flame. He was a

1881
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:36,639
Speaker 2: silver medalist in long and short form speed skating. Only

1882
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:39,719
Speaker 2: guy to ever do that. And this other guy, Rob Kramer,

1883
01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:43,720
Speaker 2: who raced bikes. You know. So the three of us

1884
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:47,280
Speaker 2: went out. We met all day in Colorado Springs with

1885
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:49,640
Speaker 2: the different national governing bodies, and at the end of

1886
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:51,760
Speaker 2: the day, I said, you know, we had a good day.

1887
01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:54,600
Speaker 2: Let's go rent some bikes and we'll go out, you know,

1888
01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:58,960
Speaker 2: biking in these mouth boys. Boy, fifteen minutes in, I've

1889
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:02,040
Speaker 2: already gone over the hand handle bars. My my my

1890
01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:03,880
Speaker 2: chest felt like it was going to come out of

1891
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:06,120
Speaker 2: my body. And I was just like you guys, just go.

1892
01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:08,880
Speaker 2: I just couldn't do it. I couldn't breathe. That was

1893
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:11,960
Speaker 2: blood everywhere. Man, It was just like, go just go

1894
01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:15,400
Speaker 2: flip the handlebars. Yeah right anything? No, No, I just

1895
01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:20,240
Speaker 2: my face and my knuckles. What was the name of that,

1896
01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:22,439
Speaker 2: Eric Flame?

1897
01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:25,679
Speaker 5: No, but the company that is not the U cast

1898
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:28,240
Speaker 5: on US Teams, US teams.

1899
01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:32,759
Speaker 2: People called the Musty, but it was called US Teams

1900
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 2: and Brian Moore used to go US it was US Teams. Yeah,

1901
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:40,080
Speaker 2: so we were trying to do it was but the

1902
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:42,439
Speaker 2: burn is real and fact then this this is you know,

1903
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:45,200
Speaker 2: like thirty years ago. So it was I didn't I

1904
01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:47,799
Speaker 2: wasn't like I am now. I was in decent shape,

1905
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:51,639
Speaker 2: and my lungs were burning burning.

1906
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:54,120
Speaker 1: What about the Olympic guys where they they were like,

1907
01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:55,840
Speaker 1: you know, so I so.

1908
01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:57,960
Speaker 2: I was just kind of like after they left, I

1909
01:27:58,080 --> 01:27:59,960
Speaker 2: was just kind of pedaling along on the flat lands

1910
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:01,880
Speaker 2: and I see them up on the cliffs and they're

1911
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:04,439
Speaker 2: like jumping from one thing to it, like they're doing

1912
01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:06,120
Speaker 2: all this stuff, no problem.

1913
01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:07,080
Speaker 19: I don't know.

1914
01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:11,760
Speaker 3: I walked around Denver and I felt I walked start out. Okay, yeah,

1915
01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:15,920
Speaker 3: I walked around. I I literally remember walking around Denver

1916
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:19,240
Speaker 3: on Christmas Eve morning on the phone with Jess being like,

1917
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:20,160
Speaker 3: it's not that bad.

1918
01:28:20,240 --> 01:28:23,120
Speaker 5: I don't know what everybody's talking the same thing that

1919
01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:25,320
Speaker 5: she's talking about. The first time I was in Denver,

1920
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:27,360
Speaker 5: I walked. I was like, I'm so rated.

1921
01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:27,680
Speaker 2: What are they?

1922
01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:31,280
Speaker 5: I never I never even jogged, let alone run.

1923
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 1: It's making me think though, how high? But I was

1924
01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:35,479
Speaker 1: joking Air Force Academy.

1925
01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:36,479
Speaker 3: Is that in Colorado Springs?

1926
01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:37,160
Speaker 5: Colorado Springs?

1927
01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:39,720
Speaker 1: So is that also a mile high or is it not? Quite?

1928
01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:39,960
Speaker 7: Like?

1929
01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:42,280
Speaker 2: I don't know, Yeah, it's up there.

1930
01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:44,840
Speaker 3: We're all so worried about this that I think we

1931
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 3: should go early. Fred. I think the team should fly

1932
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:49,919
Speaker 3: out on on like Wednesday.

1933
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 2: It takes more than that.

1934
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:53,639
Speaker 3: Oh god, we're never going to win in Denver.

1935
01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:56,360
Speaker 2: Cursed wow, it's six thousand.

1936
01:28:57,280 --> 01:28:59,280
Speaker 5: Oh my god, how do they.

1937
01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:02,080
Speaker 3: Even breathe up there? It's unbelievable because his life pilots

1938
01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:04,040
Speaker 3: well air Force like their football records.

1939
01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:07,360
Speaker 1: Really closer to the sky is what the thinking is.

1940
01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:08,479
Speaker 13: But I mean I.

1941
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:13,559
Speaker 4: Pregame skate and my feet hurt. I had to get

1942
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:15,200
Speaker 4: up there. But but we played two games then the

1943
01:29:15,240 --> 01:29:17,080
Speaker 4: next day. In the day after that, I didn't really

1944
01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:19,360
Speaker 4: notice any Oh yeah, I was an e leade athlete though,

1945
01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:21,160
Speaker 4: of course, well especially.

1946
01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:23,840
Speaker 5: My point manning p P too.

1947
01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:29,040
Speaker 2: But Mason Lay wonder, I'm just wondering. You know, in

1948
01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:32,759
Speaker 2: hockey you do shifts, so maybe because you do shifts,

1949
01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:34,400
Speaker 2: you have that chance to recover where.

1950
01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:34,960
Speaker 5: It's the key.

1951
01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:37,200
Speaker 2: It's it's get that rotation.

1952
01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 1: You're out here, get this off.

1953
01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:42,320
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, well too.

1954
01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:46,000
Speaker 3: I watched nikolay Yok run down that floor in Denver,

1955
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:49,160
Speaker 3: all very fast, and he's very out of shape, and

1956
01:29:49,240 --> 01:29:50,640
Speaker 3: he still manages to do it.

1957
01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 1: Basketball players are weird.

1958
01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:57,320
Speaker 5: It doesn't even jump. Come on, he doesn't exert any He's.

1959
01:29:57,160 --> 01:30:00,400
Speaker 3: The best player player of all the time.

1960
01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:05,519
Speaker 2: All right, let's go back to the phone. We'll go

1961
01:30:05,720 --> 01:30:08,200
Speaker 2: into Mark in Connecticut.

1962
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:11,599
Speaker 6: Hey, Mark, Hey everyone, happy bye week.

1963
01:30:11,960 --> 01:30:15,479
Speaker 5: Yes Mark, oh HIV.

1964
01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:16,680
Speaker 6: And I tried to catch you on the catch twenty two.

1965
01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:18,200
Speaker 6: But everybody else can chime in on.

1966
01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:18,880
Speaker 16: This as well.

1967
01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:22,800
Speaker 6: You know, it would be awesome to have a number

1968
01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:26,559
Speaker 6: one receiver, But do you think that it would mess

1969
01:30:26,640 --> 01:30:28,840
Speaker 6: with the chemistry in the locker room, because right now

1970
01:30:28,920 --> 01:30:31,559
Speaker 6: we have a really good abundance of a whole bunch

1971
01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:34,400
Speaker 6: of twos and threes I call them for receivers, and

1972
01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:37,720
Speaker 6: they met really well chemistry wise with Drake may do

1973
01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:41,240
Speaker 6: you think by bringing in a pre Madonna that that

1974
01:30:41,320 --> 01:30:42,040
Speaker 6: would mess with it?

1975
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:45,200
Speaker 3: I think if they did it this now, like in season,

1976
01:30:45,280 --> 01:30:47,120
Speaker 3: like if they've done this at like the deadline, yeah,

1977
01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:48,360
Speaker 3: then I think that would be different.

1978
01:30:48,400 --> 01:30:51,080
Speaker 5: But mid season, not the off season.

1979
01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:53,479
Speaker 4: I think you've established some culture now that if you

1980
01:30:53,560 --> 01:30:55,000
Speaker 4: were to bring a guy in that you have the

1981
01:30:55,080 --> 01:30:56,360
Speaker 4: foundation to support it well.

1982
01:30:56,400 --> 01:30:59,599
Speaker 5: Plus just don't fall into the trap of what happened

1983
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:01,840
Speaker 5: this year or so that that will be the case

1984
01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:02,280
Speaker 5: next year.

1985
01:31:02,360 --> 01:31:03,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean.

1986
01:31:04,040 --> 01:31:06,280
Speaker 5: Like, right now that room has been tremendous.

1987
01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:07,960
Speaker 1: And Diggs came in with the reputation for that, and

1988
01:31:08,040 --> 01:31:08,920
Speaker 1: it hasn't been that at all.

1989
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:13,600
Speaker 5: Winning well, it can, but it can lead to the

1990
01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:16,840
Speaker 5: other way too, Like, yeah, no, I was I was

1991
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:20,040
Speaker 5: really important. They wouldn't have won without me. I need

1992
01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:24,479
Speaker 5: more Like that happens. That's a natural athletic Uh, you

1993
01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:27,080
Speaker 5: know phenomenon. It happens all the time. All these guys

1994
01:31:27,160 --> 01:31:30,920
Speaker 5: that were subjugating their egos in their minds, like, well, yeah,

1995
01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:33,080
Speaker 5: I did that last year, we had success doing it.

1996
01:31:33,160 --> 01:31:35,960
Speaker 5: Now I want mine. So next year you might not

1997
01:31:36,120 --> 01:31:37,800
Speaker 5: have this, You might not have the same things.

1998
01:31:38,640 --> 01:31:38,840
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1999
01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:41,479
Speaker 2: I appreciate, all right, something the balance, but.

2000
01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:44,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would agree that if they had put someone,

2001
01:31:44,280 --> 01:31:46,599
Speaker 5: if they could have gotten the aj Brown thing this year,

2002
01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:48,320
Speaker 5: and I still would have done it. But if they

2003
01:31:48,360 --> 01:31:50,280
Speaker 5: could have done that this year or the deadline, that

2004
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:53,439
Speaker 5: would have been part of the cons Like does this

2005
01:31:53,560 --> 01:31:56,680
Speaker 5: disrupt everybody? You know, how is this how is this

2006
01:31:57,000 --> 01:32:00,000
Speaker 5: perceived in you know, within that room, within the the office,

2007
01:32:00,280 --> 01:32:03,880
Speaker 5: the locker room in general. You know, Diggs is the

2008
01:32:05,080 --> 01:32:07,160
Speaker 5: undisputed leader of that group.

2009
01:32:07,479 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 3: The leader of the team.

2010
01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:10,519
Speaker 5: Does he does he get does he take any offense

2011
01:32:10,680 --> 01:32:14,599
Speaker 5: to that? Like mid season? You know, we'll never know happened.

2012
01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:18,280
Speaker 3: He might be like towards the bottom now at this

2013
01:32:18,360 --> 01:32:20,000
Speaker 3: point of his career, I think Digs is number one

2014
01:32:20,200 --> 01:32:20,800
Speaker 3: wide receiver.

2015
01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:23,519
Speaker 5: I think he has been, and I would kind of

2016
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:25,680
Speaker 5: agree with Mark that. Like heading into the season, I

2017
01:32:25,800 --> 01:32:27,320
Speaker 5: was like, no, he's the best they have, but he's

2018
01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:30,160
Speaker 5: not really a number one. He's played well enough to

2019
01:32:30,200 --> 01:32:33,880
Speaker 5: be a number one. Yeah, he just catches.

2020
01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:36,360
Speaker 1: Everything like that, but at one point five, But is

2021
01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:36,960
Speaker 1: he a weapon?

2022
01:32:39,760 --> 01:32:40,920
Speaker 2: I think a third down he is.

2023
01:32:41,080 --> 01:32:41,280
Speaker 13: Yeah.

2024
01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:43,280
Speaker 5: I was gonna say when when Drake really needs it,

2025
01:32:43,320 --> 01:32:43,960
Speaker 5: he's been a weapon.

2026
01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:49,120
Speaker 2: I with that third and fourth downs a problem with

2027
01:32:49,240 --> 01:32:49,960
Speaker 2: moving the sticks.

2028
01:32:50,240 --> 01:32:51,360
Speaker 3: I'm just asking the question.

2029
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:55,920
Speaker 2: Sounds like you got a problem with it. Does it

2030
01:32:56,040 --> 01:33:01,800
Speaker 2: sound like that, Sebasti. He's on exit one point fifty

2031
01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:07,680
Speaker 2: three in New Jersey. Paulie yesterday, Sabby boy, you disagreed

2032
01:33:07,720 --> 01:33:09,400
Speaker 2: with me that the team let the foot off the

2033
01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:13,040
Speaker 2: gas in the second half. Maybe my writing skills need refinement.

2034
01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:15,360
Speaker 2: But to be clear, I think this was the best

2035
01:33:15,439 --> 01:33:17,599
Speaker 2: version of the team we've seen in all three phases,

2036
01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:20,560
Speaker 2: but they didn't play at that level all game. I

2037
01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:22,760
Speaker 2: don't think it was a conscious decision on the part

2038
01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:24,760
Speaker 2: of the team, but it was a lack of execution.

2039
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:26,720
Speaker 2: I want to see them play like they did in

2040
01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:29,519
Speaker 2: the first half the entire game. Now, do you still

2041
01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:30,840
Speaker 2: disagree with me? I do.

2042
01:33:31,320 --> 01:33:33,720
Speaker 5: I think they played an exceptionally good second half as

2043
01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:35,320
Speaker 5: well as first half. Now, if you want to get

2044
01:33:35,400 --> 01:33:39,479
Speaker 5: nitpicky execution wise, yeah, Borgalis misses a field goal like

2045
01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:42,360
Speaker 5: that's poor execution. Like, So to your point, I guess

2046
01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:44,599
Speaker 5: I agree with you. They didn't execute quite as well

2047
01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:47,639
Speaker 5: in the second half. But I think that they did

2048
01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:51,360
Speaker 5: everything that they wanted to do in the second half.

2049
01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:54,360
Speaker 5: I think they accomplished their players and executed the Now

2050
01:33:54,400 --> 01:33:57,360
Speaker 5: they were different plays. We weren't throwing bombs all over

2051
01:33:57,400 --> 01:33:59,360
Speaker 5: the place in the second half because they didn't need to.

2052
01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:02,439
Speaker 5: But I think that they executed and chewed I think

2053
01:34:02,479 --> 01:34:05,760
Speaker 5: there was a possession in the fourth quarter that they

2054
01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:08,360
Speaker 5: went like forty yards and chewed up like seven minutes

2055
01:34:08,400 --> 01:34:11,760
Speaker 5: of clock, six and a half minutes like clock. That's

2056
01:34:12,439 --> 01:34:13,160
Speaker 5: exactly what.

2057
01:34:13,240 --> 01:34:13,720
Speaker 2: I want to do.

2058
01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:16,720
Speaker 5: Like that to me is executing. I don't care if

2059
01:34:16,760 --> 01:34:19,040
Speaker 5: I score, you know, thirty in the first half. I

2060
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:20,320
Speaker 5: don't need thirty in the second half.

2061
01:34:20,439 --> 01:34:23,040
Speaker 2: Let's you know, read the room. Rabel could have said,

2062
01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:25,960
Speaker 2: you know, we expended a lot of energy in that

2063
01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:29,720
Speaker 2: first half, energy that you know, we probably had to

2064
01:34:30,360 --> 01:34:33,439
Speaker 2: find somewhere because we're running out of gas here getting

2065
01:34:33,479 --> 01:34:36,840
Speaker 2: into the buy. I'm I'm factoring that into how we

2066
01:34:37,000 --> 01:34:39,120
Speaker 2: did the second half, and if I have the opportunity

2067
01:34:39,240 --> 01:34:41,840
Speaker 2: like I did, like Paul said to kind of milk clock,

2068
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:44,479
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take it rather than ask these guys to be,

2069
01:34:45,680 --> 01:34:47,840
Speaker 2: you know, all out like they were in the first half.

2070
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:51,360
Speaker 3: I think the one of the most like sneaky good

2071
01:34:51,400 --> 01:34:54,360
Speaker 3: things about Mike Rabel is understanding like how to choke

2072
01:34:54,400 --> 01:34:56,720
Speaker 3: out a team and like how to like truly end

2073
01:34:56,760 --> 01:34:59,400
Speaker 3: the game, because I think what the emailer is saying,

2074
01:35:00,280 --> 01:35:02,840
Speaker 3: I think a lot of teams fall into that trap

2075
01:35:03,920 --> 01:35:06,800
Speaker 3: and they start throwing. They keep throwing like crazy, and

2076
01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:10,320
Speaker 3: they keep going bombs away and it's either turnovers or

2077
01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:12,920
Speaker 3: quick three and outs, and all of a sudden, you

2078
01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:16,240
Speaker 3: got a game on your hands. Like it's just there's

2079
01:35:16,280 --> 01:35:19,840
Speaker 3: been more blown leads this year than any other year

2080
01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:21,160
Speaker 3: in like the last like decade.

2081
01:35:21,240 --> 01:35:23,360
Speaker 5: So I'm just looking at the drive chart the second

2082
01:35:23,439 --> 01:35:26,040
Speaker 5: half drives. They really had three drives in the second half.

2083
01:35:26,439 --> 01:35:29,360
Speaker 5: They chewed up six thirty six, four oh eight and

2084
01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:32,360
Speaker 5: five twenty seven. They had the ball for seventeen minutes

2085
01:35:32,400 --> 01:35:36,920
Speaker 5: of the second half. That's dominance, like, they did exactly

2086
01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:38,559
Speaker 5: what they wanted to do. They didn't need to score

2087
01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:41,320
Speaker 5: thirty more points. They needed to run the clock out,

2088
01:35:42,400 --> 01:35:44,759
Speaker 5: which is kind of why I was a little critical

2089
01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:48,800
Speaker 5: of them throwing the ball at the very end, trying like,

2090
01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:51,519
Speaker 5: in my view, trying to get another touchdown that didn't

2091
01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:54,400
Speaker 5: need to be scored. I don't care that they only

2092
01:35:54,439 --> 01:35:57,040
Speaker 5: scored whatever points in the second half. Through they scored

2093
01:35:57,080 --> 01:35:59,800
Speaker 5: three points. I don't feel like they didn't need any points.

2094
01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:02,640
Speaker 5: Now again from an exit, you know, strictly semantics. From

2095
01:36:02,680 --> 01:36:06,840
Speaker 5: Sebastian's email, they didn't execute quite as well because they

2096
01:36:06,880 --> 01:36:10,160
Speaker 5: missed the field goal and they didn't get a touchdown.

2097
01:36:10,240 --> 01:36:12,320
Speaker 5: They got a penalty, then got a touchdown call back,

2098
01:36:12,400 --> 01:36:15,360
Speaker 5: So that's not as good of executions in the first half.

2099
01:36:15,439 --> 01:36:17,920
Speaker 5: But I think what they wanted to do. I don't

2100
01:36:17,920 --> 01:36:19,479
Speaker 5: think they let their foot off the gas. I think

2101
01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:20,920
Speaker 5: they wanted to choke him out and they did.

2102
01:36:21,160 --> 01:36:24,320
Speaker 2: Sebastian also has a hot take, I don't want Campbell

2103
01:36:24,360 --> 01:36:27,040
Speaker 2: to return after he's eligible to return. I would sit

2104
01:36:27,160 --> 01:36:30,080
Speaker 2: him until the AFC Championship game to make sure it's

2105
01:36:30,120 --> 01:36:33,519
Speaker 2: worth bringing him back and potentially making his injury regress

2106
01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:35,800
Speaker 2: or make it worse. And yes, he can get worse

2107
01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:37,639
Speaker 2: if his whole knee buckles on the field.

2108
01:36:38,200 --> 01:36:40,439
Speaker 5: I want him to return when he's healthy enough to return.

2109
01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:44,519
Speaker 5: I don't know that that's what can be saved, Chip,

2110
01:36:44,520 --> 01:36:45,840
Speaker 5: I don't know that that's going to be this year.

2111
01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:47,240
Speaker 2: Music doctors.

2112
01:36:47,360 --> 01:36:49,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, if the doctor says he's he's healthy enough to play,

2113
01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:51,519
Speaker 5: then I want him to play, even if that's the

2114
01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:53,800
Speaker 5: Miami game, the meaningless Week eighteen game.

2115
01:36:54,120 --> 01:36:55,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it'd be good to get him if

2116
01:36:55,960 --> 01:36:56,400
Speaker 3: he's healthy.

2117
01:36:56,520 --> 01:36:57,920
Speaker 5: I don't think that he's going to be able to

2118
01:36:57,960 --> 01:36:59,599
Speaker 5: play in that game, and I'm not sure he's going

2119
01:36:59,640 --> 01:37:01,120
Speaker 5: to be able to play in the playoffs. But if

2120
01:37:01,240 --> 01:37:04,840
Speaker 5: the doctors clear him, I want him playing, right, doesn't

2121
01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:05,400
Speaker 5: everybody else?

2122
01:37:05,479 --> 01:37:06,360
Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely.

2123
01:37:07,400 --> 01:37:08,639
Speaker 1: I was just happy to see him in the locker

2124
01:37:08,720 --> 01:37:11,240
Speaker 1: room yesterday that Mike Mike came in after.

2125
01:37:11,800 --> 01:37:13,680
Speaker 5: The locker room. Have you seen him since?

2126
01:37:15,200 --> 01:37:17,439
Speaker 3: Maybe Evans Damn.

2127
01:37:18,280 --> 01:37:20,760
Speaker 5: I saw him on Friday when we all walked said,

2128
01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:22,439
Speaker 5: but maybe it was in one of those other rooms

2129
01:37:22,520 --> 01:37:23,639
Speaker 5: that we're not supposed to look into.

2130
01:37:23,760 --> 01:37:26,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you're just walking through pipe and drape and

2131
01:37:27,120 --> 01:37:27,840
Speaker 4: going in the back door.

2132
01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:28,679
Speaker 2: I didn't walk through.

2133
01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:31,599
Speaker 5: Pipe and drape, Mike. I stay on the other side.

2134
01:37:32,439 --> 01:37:34,560
Speaker 3: I do want to remind myself every once in a

2135
01:37:34,600 --> 01:37:36,680
Speaker 3: while that, like if we see them like on the

2136
01:37:36,760 --> 01:37:39,320
Speaker 3: plane or like on the buses or whatever, that like.

2137
01:37:39,400 --> 01:37:40,360
Speaker 5: Oh yeah I saw him.

2138
01:37:42,040 --> 01:37:44,200
Speaker 3: Like people will ask me like, oh, is he a

2139
01:37:44,320 --> 01:37:47,680
Speaker 3: cast or whatever, and I'm like, nope, I can't tell you.

2140
01:37:47,960 --> 01:37:49,200
Speaker 3: Sign an NBA smart man.

2141
01:37:50,200 --> 01:37:52,800
Speaker 5: I always had a rule smart and actually anything that

2142
01:37:52,920 --> 01:37:55,439
Speaker 5: I saw, it was myself imposed with anything that I

2143
01:37:55,520 --> 01:37:57,760
Speaker 5: saw strictly because I worked here. It was off right.

2144
01:37:58,320 --> 01:38:03,919
Speaker 2: That's not a rule, that's a mandate that it's interesting.

2145
01:38:04,120 --> 01:38:08,920
Speaker 2: It was mighty interesting email from Carol and Georgia. First

2146
01:38:08,920 --> 01:38:10,760
Speaker 2: of all, she says, I use grammarly to write this

2147
01:38:10,880 --> 01:38:12,600
Speaker 2: email same, so thank you.

2148
01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:14,080
Speaker 1: It's not just the greatest he said.

2149
01:38:14,120 --> 01:38:18,000
Speaker 2: According to the soccer teams in Brazil, that's very high altitude.

2150
01:38:19,360 --> 01:38:22,320
Speaker 2: The best strategy is to arrive to play just before

2151
01:38:22,360 --> 01:38:25,800
Speaker 2: the game. The body takes some hours to feel the altitude,

2152
01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:28,240
Speaker 2: so you must use this interval to play. I don't

2153
01:38:28,320 --> 01:38:31,000
Speaker 2: know what will happen after But the players in Brazil

2154
01:38:31,120 --> 01:38:35,680
Speaker 2: are alive and fine. I don't know, so I have.

2155
01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:38,040
Speaker 3: Heard that now you do have to be there the

2156
01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:39,840
Speaker 3: day like it's an NFL rule that you have to

2157
01:38:39,880 --> 01:38:42,479
Speaker 3: be there the day before, right, So there's nothing that

2158
01:38:42,640 --> 01:38:45,360
Speaker 3: you can You can't fly in the day of the game.

2159
01:38:46,120 --> 01:38:49,599
Speaker 3: Not that you would want to, but you can't. So yeah,

2160
01:38:49,720 --> 01:38:50,160
Speaker 3: especially a.

2161
01:38:50,320 --> 01:38:54,400
Speaker 5: Bad length of a trip. Yeah, we're got to save

2162
01:38:54,479 --> 01:38:59,680
Speaker 5: this altitude talk like they're not playing Denver anytime soon. No,

2163
01:38:59,840 --> 01:39:03,360
Speaker 5: I you know, I started, but I'm saying the whole like,

2164
01:39:03,880 --> 01:39:05,599
Speaker 5: you know, how to deal with it. This is if

2165
01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:07,640
Speaker 5: they're playing Denver in the playoffs. This is what the

2166
01:39:07,680 --> 01:39:10,000
Speaker 5: whole week is going to be. But also to save

2167
01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:10,920
Speaker 5: some of this good stuff.

2168
01:39:11,000 --> 01:39:12,600
Speaker 3: I think the other thing too for me with this

2169
01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:16,160
Speaker 3: is like it's gonna be the AFC Championship game, and

2170
01:39:16,320 --> 01:39:18,719
Speaker 3: like at that point you're gonna have be It's gonna.

2171
01:39:18,479 --> 01:39:21,960
Speaker 5: Be hard, you know, like it's not according to you yesterday.

2172
01:39:22,200 --> 01:39:24,320
Speaker 3: You're gonna be playing a good team. It's gonna be

2173
01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:27,800
Speaker 3: high stakes, it's gonna be hard. So like wherever you're

2174
01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:31,240
Speaker 3: playing it, it's you're in the a FC championship game,

2175
01:39:31,400 --> 01:39:34,360
Speaker 3: like that's where he lost all them weights. Yeah yeah,

2176
01:39:35,080 --> 01:39:37,160
Speaker 3: really quick bone to pick with the referees, which I

2177
01:39:37,240 --> 01:39:41,960
Speaker 3: know that, Like I don't know the email before this

2178
01:39:42,040 --> 01:39:42,519
Speaker 3: made me think this.

2179
01:39:43,240 --> 01:39:43,360
Speaker 2: Uh.

2180
01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:47,800
Speaker 5: They kept on calling penalties and assigning the penalty to

2181
01:39:47,880 --> 01:39:50,240
Speaker 5: the wrong player. They did several times.

2182
01:39:50,280 --> 01:39:50,640
Speaker 3: They did it.

2183
01:39:50,880 --> 01:39:53,840
Speaker 5: I've never seen seventy almost like Scott Hansen was doing that.

2184
01:39:54,520 --> 01:39:57,280
Speaker 3: I haven't seen anything like that before. So they called

2185
01:39:57,280 --> 01:39:59,720
Speaker 3: a hold on Bradbury when the hold was actually on

2186
01:39:59,800 --> 01:40:03,200
Speaker 3: bet Brown, and then they called the illegal motion that

2187
01:40:03,280 --> 01:40:05,160
Speaker 3: wiped out was because they were talking about the Henry points.

2188
01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:08,040
Speaker 3: They called it on seventy five.

2189
01:40:08,200 --> 01:40:10,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was Ben Brown again, I know

2190
01:40:10,640 --> 01:40:10,840
Speaker 1: it was.

2191
01:40:11,080 --> 01:40:11,800
Speaker 3: It was Hunter Henry.

2192
01:40:11,880 --> 01:40:12,280
Speaker 1: It was Hunter.

2193
01:40:12,439 --> 01:40:13,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, he did.

2194
01:40:14,040 --> 01:40:17,080
Speaker 3: Happened so fast Hunter Henry didn't come set before they

2195
01:40:17,120 --> 01:40:17,720
Speaker 3: snapped the ball.

2196
01:40:17,840 --> 01:40:21,080
Speaker 5: So the penalty of twenty twenty five, the penalty of

2197
01:40:21,120 --> 01:40:23,920
Speaker 5: twenty four was the tackle being in the backfield that

2198
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:27,400
Speaker 5: got called like fifteen times a game. This is the

2199
01:40:27,439 --> 01:40:30,040
Speaker 5: penalty this year. It drives me insane. I don't understand

2200
01:40:30,120 --> 01:40:32,760
Speaker 5: why it's even illegal to go in motion and not

2201
01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:35,800
Speaker 5: you know, recess stuff. Well, it depends on if it's

2202
01:40:35,920 --> 01:40:38,280
Speaker 5: motion or a shift correct, because if your in motion,

2203
01:40:38,600 --> 01:40:40,439
Speaker 5: if you're off the line of scrimmage in motion, you

2204
01:40:40,520 --> 01:40:42,559
Speaker 5: can be in motion, but once you go to set

2205
01:40:42,640 --> 01:40:44,360
Speaker 5: back onto the line of scrimmage, you have to come

2206
01:40:44,400 --> 01:40:46,040
Speaker 5: to a full set. And I understand the whole two

2207
01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:50,000
Speaker 5: guys in motion thing. I just like, that's not confusing anybody,

2208
01:40:50,439 --> 01:40:54,160
Speaker 5: Like the whole Miami Dolphins thing isn't. That's not like,

2209
01:40:54,320 --> 01:40:57,160
Speaker 5: oh he was he was moving, like, That's not what

2210
01:40:57,280 --> 01:40:59,240
Speaker 5: the problem was. The problem was they were like lightning.

2211
01:40:59,640 --> 01:41:01,680
Speaker 5: That was the hord thing about Miami when they were

2212
01:41:01,760 --> 01:41:03,800
Speaker 5: rolling and when McDaniel first got there.

2213
01:41:04,400 --> 01:41:06,720
Speaker 3: But it was on it was on the it was

2214
01:41:06,840 --> 01:41:10,759
Speaker 3: it was called an illegal shift, yeah, and they assigned

2215
01:41:10,800 --> 01:41:13,080
Speaker 3: it to like seventy five, And I was like that

2216
01:41:13,200 --> 01:41:16,200
Speaker 3: player does not like what are we talking about? But

2217
01:41:16,400 --> 01:41:19,640
Speaker 3: really small thing like that, that illegal motion penalty is

2218
01:41:19,680 --> 01:41:23,360
Speaker 3: on Drake, like the it's on the quarterback, the tie

2219
01:41:23,439 --> 01:41:26,240
Speaker 3: up the cadence with the with the shift and make

2220
01:41:26,320 --> 01:41:29,439
Speaker 3: sure that hunter Henry does get set before they snapped

2221
01:41:29,439 --> 01:41:32,160
Speaker 3: the ball. But I just you know, I know that

2222
01:41:32,240 --> 01:41:32,439
Speaker 3: was up.

2223
01:41:32,560 --> 01:41:35,599
Speaker 5: He also he also used an incorrect signal on a penalty.

2224
01:41:35,720 --> 01:41:36,479
Speaker 5: I forget what it was.

2225
01:41:36,840 --> 01:41:37,439
Speaker 3: It was brutal.

2226
01:41:37,479 --> 01:41:39,960
Speaker 5: I think it was an illegal man downfield and he

2227
01:41:40,200 --> 01:41:41,160
Speaker 5: did the wrong signal.

2228
01:41:41,240 --> 01:41:46,479
Speaker 2: But I forget Amir has a good billboard of case

2229
01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:50,880
Speaker 2: the Patriots whin the AFCI. Yeah, it's also it's just

2230
01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:53,360
Speaker 2: say we'll take it from here. I like that.

2231
01:41:53,640 --> 01:41:54,040
Speaker 3: That's good.

2232
01:41:54,200 --> 01:41:56,439
Speaker 2: I like that. That's great good and mirror good.

2233
01:41:56,760 --> 01:41:58,760
Speaker 3: We're gonna we're going to start a gofund me for this.

2234
01:41:58,960 --> 01:41:59,200
Speaker 9: I know.

2235
01:41:59,720 --> 01:42:03,160
Speaker 1: I remember some guy like trolling bill with billboards along

2236
01:42:03,280 --> 01:42:03,680
Speaker 1: Route one.

2237
01:42:04,200 --> 01:42:07,200
Speaker 4: One of the sports hub call her personality people, But

2238
01:42:07,320 --> 01:42:09,800
Speaker 4: I why doesn't he call they better do that the

2239
01:42:09,800 --> 01:42:10,360
Speaker 4: buffalo too.

2240
01:42:10,479 --> 01:42:12,200
Speaker 3: If mister Kraft wants to fund it, he can be

2241
01:42:12,280 --> 01:42:15,080
Speaker 3: like a silent like, we won't tell anybody the money

2242
01:42:15,160 --> 01:42:16,960
Speaker 3: is from him. Well, I might have.

2243
01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:20,600
Speaker 2: Done that a few times. Reno writes in I'm not

2244
01:42:20,800 --> 01:42:25,080
Speaker 2: seeing this overly scary defense from the Broncos. Either they're

2245
01:42:25,160 --> 01:42:28,759
Speaker 2: really good, but they're not unstoppable or shut down people

2246
01:42:29,439 --> 01:42:32,360
Speaker 2: like people want to believe their offense is mid at best,

2247
01:42:32,760 --> 01:42:36,639
Speaker 2: with wild inconsistencies because of Nicks. So yeah, I agree

2248
01:42:36,640 --> 01:42:39,080
Speaker 2: with Evan. I'd be fine seeing them in the playoffs

2249
01:42:39,160 --> 01:42:42,160
Speaker 2: home or away. Let's not forget we're undefeated in away

2250
01:42:42,240 --> 01:42:44,479
Speaker 2: games at this moment. By the way, I love that

2251
01:42:44,560 --> 01:42:47,800
Speaker 2: Evan has become a mixture of Eric in big Head.

2252
01:42:48,200 --> 01:42:50,880
Speaker 2: He gets very palady like Eric and hot headed like

2253
01:42:50,960 --> 01:42:55,400
Speaker 2: any Paul, please keep starting starting the arguments with everyone

2254
01:42:55,520 --> 01:42:59,519
Speaker 2: and Fred, please continue to instigate ps not saying we

2255
01:42:59,560 --> 01:43:01,559
Speaker 2: can't lose to the Broncos, just saying we can.

2256
01:43:01,479 --> 01:43:04,640
Speaker 5: Win two and not scared to know why I win.

2257
01:43:05,000 --> 01:43:06,760
Speaker 4: My only feeling on this is like I would just

2258
01:43:06,880 --> 01:43:08,519
Speaker 4: kind of prefer not to play in Denver, but I

2259
01:43:08,560 --> 01:43:10,960
Speaker 4: don't really care. And otherwise there's no teams that I

2260
01:43:11,080 --> 01:43:13,479
Speaker 4: really don't think the Patriots have a chance against in

2261
01:43:13,479 --> 01:43:13,920
Speaker 4: the AFC.

2262
01:43:14,640 --> 01:43:16,599
Speaker 3: They don't even have the best defense in the conference.

2263
01:43:19,120 --> 01:43:22,880
Speaker 2: Jeremiah is also with Evan. I'm with Evan. I'm so

2264
01:43:23,160 --> 01:43:26,800
Speaker 2: tired of hearing everyone's nightmares about Denver. I don't think

2265
01:43:26,880 --> 01:43:30,160
Speaker 2: our fan base just has to stare at the Broncos

2266
01:43:30,280 --> 01:43:32,200
Speaker 2: logo and clinch their fists as they yell I'm not

2267
01:43:32,280 --> 01:43:36,000
Speaker 2: afraid of you anymore. Home games in general have benefits,

2268
01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:38,519
Speaker 2: especially Denver's, but I don't think that team is good

2269
01:43:38,640 --> 01:43:43,600
Speaker 2: enough to have those factors sway the game. Yeah, I agree, I.

2270
01:43:43,640 --> 01:43:45,560
Speaker 4: Mean you could say, I'd prefer not to play on

2271
01:43:45,600 --> 01:43:47,160
Speaker 4: the road generally, you know what I mean, It's just

2272
01:43:48,000 --> 01:43:49,479
Speaker 4: much rather be just make sure.

2273
01:43:51,479 --> 01:43:54,559
Speaker 5: Too to have anything sweat like that they would benefit

2274
01:43:54,640 --> 01:43:57,280
Speaker 5: from being at home? Sure, I don't, So why wouldn't

2275
01:43:57,280 --> 01:43:57,840
Speaker 5: you think that, Denver?

2276
01:43:57,920 --> 01:44:00,280
Speaker 3: Would I think to only rewigh the Patriots if it

2277
01:44:00,360 --> 01:44:02,040
Speaker 3: from playing at home as if? Like but the question

2278
01:44:02,040 --> 01:44:04,479
Speaker 3: they draw, like the Chargers or the Jaguars.

2279
01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:09,040
Speaker 2: Teams or more importantly, our team's fan base is scared

2280
01:44:09,080 --> 01:44:10,719
Speaker 2: of playing the Patriots in Jillette.

2281
01:44:11,760 --> 01:44:13,960
Speaker 5: I don't think that anybody in the AFC should be

2282
01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:17,439
Speaker 5: afraid of anybody. Yeah, I don't think any fan base

2283
01:44:17,479 --> 01:44:19,920
Speaker 5: in the AFC should be afraid of playing anywhere against

2284
01:44:19,920 --> 01:44:23,640
Speaker 5: anything established. It's a completely flat conference, that's all it

2285
01:44:23,720 --> 01:44:26,320
Speaker 5: has been the whole year. No one's really been able to,

2286
01:44:27,400 --> 01:44:28,360
Speaker 5: you know, dominate.

2287
01:44:28,520 --> 01:44:30,120
Speaker 4: And a lot of the parts we're talking about are

2288
01:44:30,200 --> 01:44:32,280
Speaker 4: unproven teams, Like if it was Tom Brady and that

2289
01:44:32,360 --> 01:44:33,800
Speaker 4: old Patriots team, Like, yeah, I don't want to go

2290
01:44:33,800 --> 01:44:35,600
Speaker 4: to Foxboro, But what do you know about Bonnicks in

2291
01:44:35,600 --> 01:44:36,040
Speaker 4: the playoffs?

2292
01:44:36,040 --> 01:44:37,479
Speaker 1: You know, what do you know about Tom Brady.

2293
01:44:37,280 --> 01:44:39,320
Speaker 2: And in the playoffs?

2294
01:44:39,439 --> 01:44:43,160
Speaker 5: But you know, they didn't really I mean, he threw

2295
01:44:43,200 --> 01:44:44,840
Speaker 5: a bomb for a touchdown on the first drive, and

2296
01:44:44,880 --> 01:44:46,599
Speaker 5: I think he did nothing the whole rest of the game.

2297
01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:49,680
Speaker 3: I just am And this is not even a Denver thing,

2298
01:44:49,880 --> 01:44:53,240
Speaker 3: It's just an overall thing. I just think that the

2299
01:44:53,360 --> 01:44:57,719
Speaker 3: home field advantage thing is becoming really overrated across the NFL.

2300
01:44:58,200 --> 01:45:00,960
Speaker 3: It just for the past like five to ten years,

2301
01:45:01,600 --> 01:45:05,839
Speaker 3: there really is in the huge discrepancy home road splits

2302
01:45:05,880 --> 01:45:09,880
Speaker 3: and things like that. I just think that it's become

2303
01:45:09,880 --> 01:45:12,160
Speaker 3: a little bit overrated in terms of a talking point.

2304
01:45:12,520 --> 01:45:17,240
Speaker 3: And I don't think anybody was necessarily worried about playing here.

2305
01:45:17,520 --> 01:45:19,400
Speaker 3: I think they were worried about playing Tom Brady.

2306
01:45:19,600 --> 01:45:22,320
Speaker 4: H So the elements, I mean, I would say the

2307
01:45:22,360 --> 01:45:24,519
Speaker 4: elements like ideally Peyton Manning doesn't want to come here

2308
01:45:24,560 --> 01:45:25,559
Speaker 4: when a snowstorm, I mean.

2309
01:45:25,520 --> 01:45:26,639
Speaker 2: Ideally swirling winds.

2310
01:45:26,720 --> 01:45:29,360
Speaker 1: Yeah no, no, But I mean I think everywhere there's something.

2311
01:45:29,439 --> 01:45:31,280
Speaker 5: I think Mike is right. I think if you if

2312
01:45:31,320 --> 01:45:32,920
Speaker 5: you were going to play Tom Brady, you want to

2313
01:45:32,920 --> 01:45:36,680
Speaker 5: play him in like hot weather. You don't want to

2314
01:45:36,680 --> 01:45:39,440
Speaker 5: play him in the snow. He never lost in those conditions,

2315
01:45:39,720 --> 01:45:42,160
Speaker 5: Like that's that was part of it. Now, you don't

2316
01:45:42,160 --> 01:45:45,400
Speaker 5: want to play Brady anywhere, because Brady's you know, we

2317
01:45:45,960 --> 01:45:48,320
Speaker 5: used to joke about this. Brady's record indoors, Brady's record

2318
01:45:48,320 --> 01:45:51,679
Speaker 5: out doors, Brady's record when it's under thirty degree, Brady dominated,

2319
01:45:51,720 --> 01:45:52,920
Speaker 5: no matter what the conditions were.

2320
01:45:52,840 --> 01:45:55,000
Speaker 1: Down by a touchdown going into the fourth quarter, dominates.

2321
01:45:55,040 --> 01:45:58,320
Speaker 5: But I would rather play Brady if I'm an opponent

2322
01:45:58,840 --> 01:46:02,120
Speaker 5: in conditions that I like. Yeah, I know Brady's going

2323
01:46:02,200 --> 01:46:04,840
Speaker 5: to be great regardless of conditions, so if I can

2324
01:46:04,960 --> 01:46:07,400
Speaker 5: match him, I need my conditions. Yeah, And that's why

2325
01:46:07,439 --> 01:46:10,160
Speaker 5: I like playing in January here was that's you know,

2326
01:46:10,240 --> 01:46:11,760
Speaker 5: for Peyton Manning, that's not not deal.

2327
01:46:12,040 --> 01:46:14,720
Speaker 4: Like Evan's point of the Chargers or the Jaguars, you know,

2328
01:46:14,800 --> 01:46:16,439
Speaker 4: having to come up here in January not ideal.

2329
01:46:16,479 --> 01:46:21,080
Speaker 5: But but Baltimore they don't care because they like those

2330
01:46:21,120 --> 01:46:21,640
Speaker 5: conditions Like.

2331
01:46:21,640 --> 01:46:25,559
Speaker 2: A honey badger. They don't care. Zach from doesn't say

2332
01:46:25,560 --> 01:46:27,960
Speaker 2: where Eric wouldn't like that has a little would you

2333
01:46:28,120 --> 01:46:31,880
Speaker 2: rather think? Okay, would you rather option a Patriots win

2334
01:46:31,920 --> 01:46:35,000
Speaker 2: their remaining four games with resounding wins over the Bills

2335
01:46:35,040 --> 01:46:37,880
Speaker 2: and Ravens and get the number one overall seed after

2336
01:46:38,040 --> 01:46:40,439
Speaker 2: first round bye. They lose to the Chiefs in the

2337
01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:45,200
Speaker 2: divisional round Option B. Patriots go two and two in

2338
01:46:45,280 --> 01:46:48,479
Speaker 2: their final four games, losing to the Bills and the Ravens.

2339
01:46:48,760 --> 01:46:51,280
Speaker 2: They beat a middling team like the Jaguars in the

2340
01:46:51,360 --> 01:46:55,080
Speaker 2: wild round card Wildcard round, then lose a game to

2341
01:46:55,160 --> 01:46:56,639
Speaker 2: the Chiefs in the divisional round.

2342
01:46:57,240 --> 01:47:01,120
Speaker 3: Win a playoff game, So I'll play game both ways.

2343
01:47:01,160 --> 01:47:02,600
Speaker 1: You're winning the AFC East, which the.

2344
01:47:02,640 --> 01:47:04,920
Speaker 5: Ways in the division around to Kansas City.

2345
01:47:05,400 --> 01:47:08,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, so when one of them you have a playoff game,

2346
01:47:08,560 --> 01:47:10,000
Speaker 3: win Drake may won a playoff game.

2347
01:47:10,080 --> 01:47:13,680
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, okay, yeah, all right, get the division. That's

2348
01:47:13,720 --> 01:47:15,240
Speaker 4: my first goal. Get the division.

2349
01:47:15,280 --> 01:47:18,639
Speaker 2: Like decision's over, you know, I know it's aficial till

2350
01:47:18,680 --> 01:47:19,000
Speaker 2: it's over.

2351
01:47:19,560 --> 01:47:19,680
Speaker 13: Right.

2352
01:47:20,960 --> 01:47:23,280
Speaker 2: Also, the Patriots are back to their winning ways, and

2353
01:47:23,400 --> 01:47:25,800
Speaker 2: I love to bring back the tradition of buying you

2354
01:47:25,880 --> 01:47:29,640
Speaker 2: guys lunch. We as listeners can't forget tradition as it

2355
01:47:29,760 --> 01:47:32,320
Speaker 2: hearkens back to the days when Zolac would stop by,

2356
01:47:32,760 --> 01:47:35,559
Speaker 2: and even back to the original Patriots Cafe shows. Wow,

2357
01:47:35,600 --> 01:47:38,760
Speaker 2: you remember those? What's that back in the day. I'll

2358
01:47:38,760 --> 01:47:40,519
Speaker 2: shall tell you in a second. If the new studio

2359
01:47:40,600 --> 01:47:42,840
Speaker 2: isn't conducive to eating food, I'm happy to buy lunch

2360
01:47:42,920 --> 01:47:43,559
Speaker 2: on an off day.

2361
01:47:43,880 --> 01:47:43,920
Speaker 9: No.

2362
01:47:44,120 --> 01:47:47,400
Speaker 2: So back back in the day OG listening, when the

2363
01:47:47,439 --> 01:47:51,040
Speaker 2: World Wide Web first started in the old Stadium, they

2364
01:47:51,120 --> 01:47:54,640
Speaker 2: had the Club which doubled as where the Patriots ate

2365
01:47:54,680 --> 01:47:57,360
Speaker 2: their lunch. So during lunch we'd set up and do

2366
01:47:57,439 --> 01:48:01,000
Speaker 2: a live show with Don Lowry, who was Stacy James

2367
01:48:01,080 --> 01:48:04,320
Speaker 2: before Stacy James actually he was his boss at the time,

2368
01:48:04,800 --> 01:48:07,640
Speaker 2: and we would drag guys from lunch and interview them

2369
01:48:07,720 --> 01:48:11,479
Speaker 2: during their life. That's great. Yeah, sandwiches, yep.

2370
01:48:12,560 --> 01:48:14,680
Speaker 1: So he had relaxed over a meal, you know, hanging.

2371
01:48:14,720 --> 01:48:16,000
Speaker 1: Would they be eating one there or he just grab

2372
01:48:16,120 --> 01:48:16,680
Speaker 1: them like after they.

2373
01:48:16,840 --> 01:48:20,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, when they're done. It's a shame that we

2374
01:48:20,320 --> 01:48:24,040
Speaker 2: don't have those tapes. Oh yeah, you know, I don't

2375
01:48:24,080 --> 01:48:24,920
Speaker 2: know where they would be.

2376
01:48:26,600 --> 01:48:26,960
Speaker 5: I don't know.

2377
01:48:27,520 --> 01:48:28,000
Speaker 2: It's funny.

2378
01:48:28,040 --> 01:48:29,479
Speaker 1: I just quick story.

2379
01:48:30,320 --> 01:48:33,479
Speaker 4: Had the chance to interview Nancy Meyer for the eighty

2380
01:48:33,520 --> 01:48:36,680
Speaker 4: five project and she had a funny story. She was

2381
01:48:36,720 --> 01:48:39,880
Speaker 4: saying how different things were, you know, she said, players.

2382
01:48:39,640 --> 01:48:40,960
Speaker 1: Back then they had other jobs.

2383
01:48:41,040 --> 01:48:42,240
Speaker 4: Like the season went in, they would go to like

2384
01:48:42,280 --> 01:48:43,880
Speaker 4: their other job, and then they work and then the

2385
01:48:43,920 --> 01:48:46,960
Speaker 4: season they come back. But she said that you know,

2386
01:48:47,080 --> 01:48:49,479
Speaker 4: they never got swagged they never had. She's like, if

2387
01:48:49,520 --> 01:48:52,200
Speaker 4: players had like two T shirts that said Patriots on them,

2388
01:48:52,240 --> 01:48:53,320
Speaker 4: they were doing well well here.

2389
01:48:53,439 --> 01:48:54,559
Speaker 2: That was definitely the case.

2390
01:48:54,840 --> 01:48:56,800
Speaker 5: I know that they didn't have to work second jobs.

2391
01:48:57,160 --> 01:48:59,960
Speaker 2: No, no, I'm telling you, if a guy needed another jersey,

2392
01:49:00,160 --> 01:49:03,240
Speaker 2: they'd have to buy it. I'm serious, really, I'm serious crazy.

2393
01:49:03,479 --> 01:49:05,439
Speaker 4: But she said one of her best memories from that

2394
01:49:05,520 --> 01:49:07,200
Speaker 4: eighty five season and then going to the Super Bowl

2395
01:49:07,360 --> 01:49:10,840
Speaker 4: was that her and all the admin staff all got

2396
01:49:10,920 --> 01:49:14,320
Speaker 4: outfitted and jumpsuits and sneakers from Rebok, which at the time,

2397
01:49:14,360 --> 01:49:16,760
Speaker 4: my dad was working at Rebok, And she said, you

2398
01:49:16,840 --> 01:49:18,880
Speaker 4: know what sparked my memory was like, there's that there's

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01:49:18,920 --> 01:49:21,719
Speaker 4: a picture somewhere of all of us in our rebox stuff.

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Speaker 1: And I was so excited, And I've looked everywhere for

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01:49:23,760 --> 01:49:24,960
Speaker 1: that picture and I don't know where it is.

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01:49:25,040 --> 01:49:26,760
Speaker 4: So somewhere around here, there's got to be some kind

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01:49:26,800 --> 01:49:28,960
Speaker 4: of archive with all this stuff. And yeah, I'm sure

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01:49:28,960 --> 01:49:30,320
Speaker 4: a lot of people like to get their hands on.

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01:49:31,280 --> 01:49:33,760
Speaker 2: So yeah, no it it used to be bad. And

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01:49:33,840 --> 01:49:39,559
Speaker 2: they used to accuse the old equipment manager before Donnie Brocher,

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01:49:39,920 --> 01:49:45,040
Speaker 2: this guy Longo of you know, having like an underground

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01:49:45,120 --> 01:49:48,679
Speaker 2: economy where he would like, you know, sell extra guys,

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01:49:49,000 --> 01:49:50,080
Speaker 2: keep the money and everything.

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01:49:50,280 --> 01:49:51,320
Speaker 3: Stick would never Yeah.

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01:49:52,200 --> 01:49:53,800
Speaker 4: Well now it's like he like, it's those new T

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01:49:53,960 --> 01:49:57,000
Speaker 4: shirts and new sweatshirts and they're like randomly getting sweatshirts

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01:49:57,040 --> 01:49:59,040
Speaker 4: and T shirts made with sayings on them, and you,

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01:49:59,160 --> 01:49:59,960
Speaker 4: I mean, you can't escape.

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01:50:00,200 --> 01:50:03,360
Speaker 2: I know elders in North Carolina on the hotline, what's

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01:50:03,439 --> 01:50:04,000
Speaker 2: up eld.

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01:50:06,680 --> 01:50:06,920
Speaker 5: Woa?

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01:50:07,120 --> 01:50:10,800
Speaker 1: Whoa sut though?

2419
01:50:10,840 --> 01:50:13,559
Speaker 2: That guy that just swerved into the guard rail here

2420
01:50:13,640 --> 01:50:14,040
Speaker 2: you great?

2421
01:50:14,840 --> 01:50:16,160
Speaker 9: No, I ain't nobody here.

2422
01:50:16,520 --> 01:50:18,240
Speaker 11: Everyone out of your change, bro.

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01:50:19,640 --> 01:50:20,519
Speaker 12: I'm wanting them one.

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01:50:20,840 --> 01:50:24,880
Speaker 6: Like I said, it's the greatest one eleven Ford for

2425
01:50:25,000 --> 01:50:25,880
Speaker 6: the s up there.

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01:50:26,280 --> 01:50:27,240
Speaker 12: I don't want to play there.

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01:50:28,000 --> 01:50:33,320
Speaker 7: But because but if you listen to David Andrews and

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01:50:33,439 --> 01:50:34,960
Speaker 7: I think him in the whole Your.

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01:50:35,120 --> 01:50:38,960
Speaker 12: Pet Chat My Dad podcast, Yeah, can you tell you

2430
01:50:39,080 --> 01:50:41,439
Speaker 12: why and why he was sick for two weeks after

2431
01:50:41,520 --> 01:50:44,200
Speaker 12: going up there, and it's it's that but fear.

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01:50:44,400 --> 01:50:46,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that had nothing to do with it.

2433
01:50:46,240 --> 01:50:49,920
Speaker 2: No, Andrews had a bug. Yeah, he was really set.

2434
01:50:49,960 --> 01:50:53,240
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, But I don't think it was altitude related.

2435
01:50:54,760 --> 01:50:58,320
Speaker 3: Uh he said his attitude something telling you it's not

2436
01:50:58,400 --> 01:51:01,000
Speaker 3: a factor I'm just telling you that it's not impossible.

2437
01:51:01,080 --> 01:51:03,960
Speaker 2: I remember that we spent yeah, we spent a week

2438
01:51:04,000 --> 01:51:08,080
Speaker 2: out there nineteen you know, yeah, this was we had

2439
01:51:08,120 --> 01:51:12,639
Speaker 2: a weekend. Yeah, I'm sorry, No, we had a week

2440
01:51:12,680 --> 01:51:15,439
Speaker 2: out then. I remember he got really sick. Yeah, couldn't

2441
01:51:15,439 --> 01:51:16,679
Speaker 2: make the second leg of the game.

2442
01:51:17,160 --> 01:51:19,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly.

2443
01:51:19,280 --> 01:51:27,840
Speaker 12: And there I love, I love. I don't want to

2444
01:51:27,840 --> 01:51:29,120
Speaker 12: play that come down down.

2445
01:51:29,680 --> 01:51:32,800
Speaker 2: I want to play him here and would I well

2446
01:51:32,840 --> 01:51:36,240
Speaker 2: everybody would rather play him here, all right, thanks Aldred,

2447
01:51:37,400 --> 01:51:37,960
Speaker 2: Yeah I did.

2448
01:51:38,320 --> 01:51:40,640
Speaker 3: And I think it's Paul said, like, we'll get to

2449
01:51:40,720 --> 01:51:42,040
Speaker 3: it when we get to it, which he's right. But

2450
01:51:42,280 --> 01:51:45,479
Speaker 3: if you look at Denver's last four games of their schedule,

2451
01:51:45,600 --> 01:51:50,360
Speaker 3: it's Packers, Chiefs, Chargers, Jaguars or their last four games,

2452
01:51:50,520 --> 01:51:53,040
Speaker 3: like the way that they get the number one seed,

2453
01:51:53,080 --> 01:51:55,680
Speaker 3: other than like they have the tie breakers over the Patriots.

2454
01:51:56,040 --> 01:51:57,920
Speaker 3: So both teams went out and Denver is going to

2455
01:51:57,960 --> 01:51:59,519
Speaker 3: be the number one seed. But I don't think Denver's

2456
01:51:59,600 --> 01:51:59,960
Speaker 3: winning out.

2457
01:52:00,280 --> 01:52:02,240
Speaker 5: So but winning out, But what if both teams go

2458
01:52:02,360 --> 01:52:06,040
Speaker 5: too and two or in Denver's case three, It depends

2459
01:52:06,080 --> 01:52:09,920
Speaker 5: on this breaker. Why I always say, like, don't just

2460
01:52:10,280 --> 01:52:13,519
Speaker 5: blanket tie breaker? They have the tiebreaker, So I believe Now.

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01:52:13,520 --> 01:52:16,680
Speaker 2: If it's AC, I believe it Chargers.

2462
01:52:17,240 --> 01:52:19,800
Speaker 3: Well, I but I believe it would it would. It

2463
01:52:19,800 --> 01:52:22,479
Speaker 3: wouldn't matter because as long as they beat the Raiders,

2464
01:52:22,920 --> 01:52:26,479
Speaker 3: they'll have the common opponent tiebreaker. And then the Patriots

2465
01:52:26,600 --> 01:52:28,200
Speaker 3: last four games are all against the a f C.

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01:52:29,360 --> 01:52:32,600
Speaker 3: So if the Patriots not common that makes sense, but

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01:52:32,720 --> 01:52:35,599
Speaker 3: they're all but it's conference records is more important.

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01:52:35,720 --> 01:52:35,960
Speaker 2: Okay.

2469
01:52:36,040 --> 01:52:37,720
Speaker 3: So if they go like two and two and in

2470
01:52:37,840 --> 01:52:40,479
Speaker 3: the last four games of the season, then Denver is

2471
01:52:40,520 --> 01:52:44,000
Speaker 3: gonna it's gonna it's gonna be Denver with the tiebreakers.

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01:52:44,080 --> 01:52:48,080
Speaker 5: So that's the So it's the would you say the Chargers, Chiefs,

2473
01:52:48,120 --> 01:52:52,280
Speaker 5: the Chiefs, Jackson, Patriots didn't play any of those teams.

2474
01:52:52,240 --> 01:52:54,040
Speaker 3: So it's about the a f C. It will be

2475
01:52:54,080 --> 01:52:55,479
Speaker 3: about the conference record.

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01:52:55,600 --> 01:53:01,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Mike's in New York. What's up, Mike, Mike, Mike,

2477
01:53:01,439 --> 01:53:06,280
Speaker 2: Mike Wednesday, hump Day? Where are you? He's gone home?

2478
01:53:07,320 --> 01:53:10,280
Speaker 2: All right, that's okay, Mike, get another chance.

2479
01:53:11,600 --> 01:53:13,280
Speaker 5: I just do a lot of different topics today.

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01:53:13,360 --> 01:53:17,040
Speaker 4: It is interesting, though, Kathy, like all the odds that

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01:53:17,160 --> 01:53:20,439
Speaker 4: it really seems, based on what I've seen, it's Patriots

2482
01:53:20,439 --> 01:53:21,040
Speaker 4: are Broncos.

2483
01:53:21,120 --> 01:53:23,120
Speaker 1: That's the one seed, right, It's the Patriots.

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01:53:23,439 --> 01:53:25,800
Speaker 5: Those are the biggest team I think that has a

2485
01:53:26,160 --> 01:53:28,439
Speaker 5: minute chance, and I think it's less than five percent

2486
01:53:28,600 --> 01:53:33,840
Speaker 5: is Buffalo because Buffalo could conceivably, you know, steal the

2487
01:53:33,920 --> 01:53:36,360
Speaker 5: division and then you know, you get into all the

2488
01:53:36,439 --> 01:53:39,479
Speaker 5: different stuff if that tough schedule that Evan talked about

2489
01:53:39,479 --> 01:53:40,599
Speaker 5: with the Broncos comes into play.

2490
01:53:40,640 --> 01:53:43,920
Speaker 3: But I think it's just yeah, yeah, the Patriots right

2491
01:53:43,920 --> 01:53:46,400
Speaker 3: now are slave favorites to be the one seed in

2492
01:53:46,439 --> 01:53:48,519
Speaker 3: most places. But it's because they're back end of their

2493
01:53:48,560 --> 01:53:53,599
Speaker 3: schedules easier than Denvers. So not by much, honestly, because

2494
01:53:53,640 --> 01:53:56,080
Speaker 3: you have Baltimore and Buffalo, but they have the Jets

2495
01:53:56,120 --> 01:53:56,880
Speaker 3: and the Dolphins, and.

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01:53:56,920 --> 01:53:59,400
Speaker 5: They have they're easier than the Chargers and the Jets.

2497
01:53:59,439 --> 01:53:59,599
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:53:59,800 --> 01:54:01,880
Speaker 1: Right, teams who are in playoffs still in the playoff mix.

2499
01:54:02,000 --> 01:54:05,720
Speaker 2: Trying to make it do one more emails Travis and

2500
01:54:05,760 --> 01:54:09,240
Speaker 2: West Virginia. We're talking about me reading emails, he says, uh,

2501
01:54:09,960 --> 01:54:13,360
Speaker 2: And and you know, reading favorites. He says, nonsense, Fred,

2502
01:54:13,960 --> 01:54:16,360
Speaker 2: My emails are always good, and you only read about

2503
01:54:16,400 --> 01:54:19,280
Speaker 2: one out of every five I sent. Also, Kwannie doesn't

2504
01:54:19,320 --> 01:54:22,040
Speaker 2: read emails either, The only difference is that she pretends

2505
01:54:22,080 --> 01:54:24,200
Speaker 2: she didn't get any emails, while you pretend.

2506
01:54:24,080 --> 01:54:24,639
Speaker 5: You got a lot.

2507
01:54:26,439 --> 01:54:28,280
Speaker 2: It's not pretending we get a lot.

2508
01:54:30,120 --> 01:54:31,000
Speaker 5: You can't really read them all.

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01:54:31,080 --> 01:54:35,000
Speaker 2: All right, all right, there's a lot more emails. I'm

2510
01:54:35,040 --> 01:54:36,600
Speaker 2: sorry I didn't get to all of them. But anyway,

2511
01:54:36,720 --> 01:54:39,000
Speaker 2: we'll be back tomorrow, so you'll have another chance to

2512
01:54:39,080 --> 01:54:42,080
Speaker 2: email or call in. The gang will be all here

2513
01:54:42,120 --> 01:54:44,120
Speaker 2: because Evan won't have a locker room to go to.

2514
01:54:44,400 --> 01:54:46,960
Speaker 2: Deuce won't have a locker room to go to. Live

2515
01:54:47,160 --> 01:54:51,520
Speaker 2: picks from Evan, Live picks from Evan, Second time, any

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01:54:52,000 --> 01:54:53,840
Speaker 2: four like any teaser.

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01:54:57,840 --> 01:54:58,120
Speaker 13: I had?

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01:54:58,280 --> 01:55:00,440
Speaker 5: I had a really good week with a spread. Okay,

2519
01:55:01,040 --> 01:55:03,800
Speaker 5: that's kind of average otherwise.

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01:55:03,440 --> 01:55:06,160
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, well we'll get to that tomorrow. Thanks

2521
01:55:06,200 --> 01:55:07,000
Speaker 2: for watching today.

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01:55:10,440 --> 01:55:12,520
Speaker 3: Hey this is Alex. Thanks for tuning into the show.

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01:55:12,640 --> 01:55:14,120
Speaker 3: If you really want to help us, make.

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01:55:14,040 --> 01:55:16,800
Speaker 4: Sure you like us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever

2525
01:55:16,880 --> 01:55:17,960
Speaker 4: you get your podcasts.

2526
01:55:18,400 --> 01:55:20,200
Speaker 3: Also, make sure you follow us on the New.

2527
01:55:20,120 --> 01:55:23,000
Speaker 2: England Patriots YouTube channel to see this show and everything

2528
01:55:23,040 --> 01:55:24,480
Speaker 2: else we do here at the Patriots.

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Speaker 5: Thanks a lot,