1 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: This This is the Talking Cowboys Break, streaming live on 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the officials Dallas Cowboys out. 3 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: What's up? Happy Labor Day. Welcome inside the SWBC Mortgage 4 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: Studio to the Talking Cowboys Break. Rob Phillips joined by 5 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: an all star crew. Brian brought us, David Hellman, Nick Eatman, 6 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: Kim Garrison, producing fellas. Hi Tigers, Oh go Tigers. Yeah 7 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: throw that out there. Damn right, let them know. Go Tigers. 8 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: Is Miami back? I don't. Miami's back in the trash 9 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: great uni. So Miami's got some great uniforms. Their uniforms 10 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: are actually made out of trash. Yeah, well they played 11 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: like last night, played like trash. Yeah. Sorry, anyway, go Tigers. 12 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: Hey you went to the game last night? The game? 13 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 1: Are you out there? Michael Urvin? It was to you, 14 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: to you, to you good game right there, game for 15 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: about a quarter. Yeah. This the field goal man, it's 16 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: get ready of field goal kicker. That's what happens. Your 17 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: fan base is unbelievable. They're just they're they're awesome. We 18 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: we like to have a good time. Yeah, yeah, Brian, 19 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: Brian slipped in a nice little segue there. I saw 20 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: what you were doing. Yeah, that's good. I try to 21 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: help you, Rob, seeing what's going down down the bad 22 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: path of Nobody on this planet wants to talk about 23 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 1: that game. Nobody listening to this podcast wants to talk 24 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: about You want to talk about the Kicker? They do? 25 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: And let's talk about the Kicker, y'all. We are in 26 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,839 Speaker 1: week one officially, even though it's a holiday today. Jason 27 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: Garrett just not for us and not for not for 28 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: Jason Garrett. He's gonna address the media at in an 29 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: hour two pm Central time, So it's a primer for that. 30 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: And boy, we've got a little question for coach Garrett 31 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: that we need to address over the next hour. Right, Yeah, 32 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: what's up with with Dan Bailey? What's up with the 33 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: Kicker situation? Why did they do what they did? Does 34 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: anybody here know that? Like does it? I don't think 35 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: they know that? Yeah? Great point. I mean, okay, another question. 36 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: You don't have to. I don't want to put y'all 37 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: on the spot, but I mean, this is my sixth year, Rob, 38 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: this is like your tenth year. You've been here forever? 39 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 1: You yetimes is that? I mean that ranks up there 40 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: for me is maybe the most shocking thing that this 41 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: team has done in my time. I don't maybe, I mean, 42 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: you know, maybe it's not up there with Maybe it's 43 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: not up there with Quincy Carter. But they didn't get 44 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: rid of him. He got hurt. I mean that was 45 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:31,679 Speaker 1: didn't play him ever again. Whatever, you know what out 46 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: of nowhere like a guillotine. They just dropped the knife 47 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: and was the biggest surprise that I can remember. Yeah, 48 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: I think so. I joking only said something was it? 49 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: Do you like earlier in the day, like what if 50 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: they cut Bailey and you're like, shut up? Or may 51 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 1: it was you? I remember saying, I've been talking to yourself. 52 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: I do that a lot. But if you're talking Shannon, 53 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:52,959 Speaker 1: was you're office, you were talking to yourself. I don't 54 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: think you said that to anybody. Didn't accept yourself. Because 55 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: like when it came down, when word got around that 56 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: this was going to shot, we were all like, what 57 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: logical sense does this? Man? I got a text. Remember 58 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: we're all sitting there. I got a text. I said 59 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: they're thinking about cutting Dan Bailey. Yeah, and we all 60 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: kind of looked each other the front door. Yeah, Nick 61 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: threw up into his hands. My wife says to her 62 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: kids in class fourth grade. Shut the front door. Yeah, 63 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: it's okay. It's better than the alternative. That's because the 64 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: door's open like that. Yeah, you word got out. And 65 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: I know everybody here was shocked. And I can't I'm 66 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: with Nick, I can't recall roster move other than like 67 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: Quincy Carter, which wasn't a final cuts move. That was 68 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: that was always live that one. It shocked everybody. It 69 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: shocked me. The fact when when Larry Laswell told me that, 70 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: he goes, hey, we just cut our starting quarterback. And 71 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: I go what, he goes, we just cut our starting quarterback. 72 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, Quitcy. He goes, Yep, he's out of here. 73 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, but yeah, that was the Dan 74 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: Bailey one. Because and I think Nick, he made an 75 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: excellent point on Twitter, and I applaud him for an 76 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: excellent tweet. Because if there was a if there was 77 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: really a competition, you know, why didn't we see a competition? 78 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: If if if Dan Billy was kicking for his job, 79 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: why why didn't Dan Billy get the opportunity to kick 80 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: for his job? It doesn't That's that's it in a 81 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: nutshell right there. It doesn't make any sense because if 82 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: he goes out and hits a fifty seven yard kick 83 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: against Houston, yeah, everybody's feeling good about Dan even then 84 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: they're like, you know what, Okay, he's back, he's good. 85 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: He never even got the chance to do that. Now. 86 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: The only question that I have, and no one can 87 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: answer this for me, did he want to kick? You know? Sometimes? 88 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 1: Did he want the competition? No one has told me 89 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: either way. That's the only thing I can think of 90 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: that maybe he didn't really want that. The reports are 91 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 1: that he's in New York to try out visit with 92 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: the Jets, So there's competition right there. Yeah, I mean Chargers, 93 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: another team use a kicker. Yeah. The fun thing for 94 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: me is like, you know, we're smart, we're plugged in. 95 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,679 Speaker 1: God for yourself. Thanks, well, we did go to LSU, 96 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: but we're plugged in. Then the there are other people 97 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 1: that are plugged in, Like around this beat, there are 98 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: people that know what's going on. And at some point 99 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: in the six weeks since we started these practices, all 100 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: the way back in July, don't you think they were like, 101 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: can't you just see like the report that like, you know, oh, 102 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: like Cowboys, the depth charted the kicker position might not 103 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: be as settled as you think it is. Like the 104 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: cowboys are, you know, they're kind of impressed by this 105 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: Brett Maher kid like, nothing like that ever happened. It was. 106 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: I mean, Bailey kicked every other day, which has been 107 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: his schedule for years, to rest his leg, and Maher 108 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 1: got you know, he had his own days. How do 109 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: you pronounce the kicker's name? How do you pronounce it? Maher? Yeah? Well, 110 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: if it was a real Trey Man told me, mar See, 111 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: that's my point. If it was a real competition, wouldn't 112 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: we would know? Yeah, yeah, this was really a battle. 113 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 1: I felt better when Todd Archer tweeted Todd Archer of 114 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: ESPN Dallas that he did what I did. And that's 115 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: when it was Maher's chance to kick in practice every 116 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: day for three weeks in ox and Hard Watch. I didn't. 117 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 1: I mean I might watch, but I didn't chart it. Yeah. 118 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: I charted by every day because especially after you know, 119 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: Brian and I did a point counterpoint first weekend ox 120 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: Nard after two days where he struggled and okay, is 121 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: it time to hit the panic button? Right? Well, he 122 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 1: righted himself. They didn't go out and look for other competition, 123 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: and I think everybody felt like this guy was signed. 124 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: This guy was a puncher as well in practice, he's 125 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: got to spell. Bailey's there to spell Chris Jones. Oh, hey, 126 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: trust me. Maybe that fifty seven yard or at Houston 127 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: the other night. Yeah, but it was just a forty 128 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: what something forty seven eight yard kick in San Francisco. Yeah, 129 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 1: you know. And so you're sitting there thinking, But I'm 130 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 1: with Nick, if if, if there was a competition, I 131 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: never saw it. Yeah, And this could very well come 132 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: down to whether you believe it or not. This could 133 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: come down to just absolute confidence in Dan Bailey as 134 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: a kicker. Yeah, I really mean that's what they're That's 135 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: what they're saying. I mean, I don't money. No, it's 136 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: coming down to they do not want to go through 137 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: what they went through last December when Bailey came back, 138 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: which is totally fine, but like that, that's I just 139 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: made the dumbest noise ever because I can't even articulate. 140 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: We never saw that thought process play out on the 141 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: football field, Like and you think it was money. No, 142 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: I don't think. I hope it's not, because if it is, 143 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,119 Speaker 1: that that's gonna piss me off. What are they saving 144 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: their money? They don't need, they don't need, they don't 145 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: need caps. They had fifteen million on Saturday. This would 146 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: bothers me too. And this would bother me if I 147 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: miss Jason Garrett. I keep talking about Garrett wanting to 148 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: get everybody in here that can help him win games. 149 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: If he's part of this decision. And all of a sudden, 150 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: we're Week four and they blow one against Detroit. You 151 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: know that's on Garrett, that's on the staff, that's on 152 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: the front office. This kid was pretty good in the CFL. 153 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: That's what you That's what we're going into the season with. 154 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: Pretty good CFL kickers never made a kick in the 155 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: NFL before. Here's the thing, long, wait, wait, excuse, are 156 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: you wrong about Dan Bailey? Is are we seeing there? 157 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: We seeing the end of Dan Bailey. Here's the thing. 158 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: It's always it's the nick fole, that nick fole, the nile. 159 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: We could be but we don't know. That's the thing 160 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: that I don't understand because and actually you remember we 161 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: talked about it a lot. He had two practices in 162 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: Oxnard where we all doesn't started watching. He was pretty three. 163 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: He missed from like the three yard line. He missed 164 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: four kicks in two days and it was like a 165 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: five alarm fire, but he settled in and I don't 166 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: believe he missed another kick the rest of camp, or 167 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: if he did, it was one one out of like 168 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: what twenty five and he missed He made his only 169 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: attempt in preseason, which does That's what doesn't get I 170 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: don't understand is how how long we're gonna ask these 171 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: questions we're gonna find out like how to get an 172 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 1: answer you think we'll see not a satisfactor this big? 173 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: This is my question, Like how long did they have 174 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: the idea of Brett Maher in mind, because in hindsight, 175 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: you're letting him kick five times in preseason as opposed 176 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: to one for Bailey, Like we're all along. Were they thinking, okay, 177 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: let's we need to see what this guy can do 178 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: in a game situation. Or did it come down to 179 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: the last game and they said okay, Because if if 180 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: Dan Bailey's not kicking in preseason, that told me and 181 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: I think everybody else, oh he's there guy. They feel 182 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: good about that. They don't need to see him. Oh hey, 183 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: I got reminded of it. You ever getting reminded of 184 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: tweets from people. The people. Yeah eight three, twenty eighteen. Uh, 185 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: mayor mar as a strong doesn't have as strong as 186 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: like as Bailey. That was kind of a just observation 187 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: I made, you know, somebody asked me a question. Yeah, 188 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: I said, he just doesn't. It doesn't look it doesn't 189 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: look like the boss coming off his foot as well. 190 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: And so I mean it's just some observation of practice 191 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: and you know, hearing now the guy makes the team 192 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: makes a fifty seven yard field goal. But I just 193 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,719 Speaker 1: I never, I never thought that Dan Bailey's job was 194 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: in jeopardy. Nope, I never. I mean, anybody, Nick and 195 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: I got yelled at for, you know, implying that, you know, 196 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: there was other reasons why Dan Bailey was struggling, you know, right, 197 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: And you know we got ripped for that within the organization. 198 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 1: And I mean, like, okay, we'll tell me, give me 199 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: a reason. Then give me a reason. Now all of 200 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:05,599 Speaker 1: a sudden, the guys gone give your reason. This is 201 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: an interesting point that I thought of though, which you know, 202 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: we talked about this all the time, Like these guys 203 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: are people away from football too, with their own problems 204 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: and their own issues that they sort through just like 205 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: we do. And one thing that I would say is, 206 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: I mean behind the scenes, we're not in those meetings. 207 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: We're not part of that. And if if a special 208 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: teams coach too, if a guy doesn't have it from 209 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: a mental aspect, maybe you noticed that you know what 210 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: you do, and that's maybe you maybe you pick up 211 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: the reason they're gonna gets the reason they're gonna give you. 212 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I doubt they would say that. Well, not 213 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: not the hit coach. See like if I'm McKell McKay 214 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: or Katie Cannon or some receiver, and they might got 215 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: cut said you know, I didn't get enough reps or 216 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: I didn't get this, And that's probably the case. And 217 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: that's just the way it is. Those guys haven't really 218 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: earned those the reps to go out there and do that. 219 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: But Dan Bailey has Bailey has earned the right if 220 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: he's if he's got a confidence problem, he deserves the 221 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: right to go to a game and miss and like, Okay, 222 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: he's not hurt anymore. This truly is a problem. But 223 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: we never got a chance to see Dan Bailey missus 224 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: or Brett Maherr missing. What do you mean missing? I mean, 225 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: which do you feel better? I mean, you don't feel 226 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: good about any of missing, but I mean would you 227 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,839 Speaker 1: rather Dan Bailey try? And I worked out like Nick saying, 228 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: I think we've I agree with him. Think we said 229 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: it all the way through the preseason. It's like and 230 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: even even the week that he was struggling in Oxnard, 231 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: I didn't see enough of a drop off to where 232 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: I was worried about him, you know, like I still 233 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: thought of him as rock solid. Yeah, And somebody tweeted 234 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: me the Nick Foles comparison that you brought up, Brian 235 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: two thousand and nine. Folk, I'm Nick Folk starting for 236 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 1: Philly on Thursday. Yeah, he's ahead, He's a super bow 237 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: quarterback guy. Yeah. Nick Folk was cut in two thousand 238 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: and nine after they beat New Orleans on the road, 239 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: that big win. That was the middle of a playoff race, right, 240 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: and they decide, all right, we gotta cut base. We're 241 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: trying to make a playoff right here. They went the 242 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: entire off season with Dan Bailey saying he's okay, Yeah, 243 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: he's okay, And they brought in a guy who no 244 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: disrespect to him. He's never had a kick in the 245 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: NFL regular season right, So they didn't go for tryouts, 246 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: they didn't go that route, right. Apparently this guy just 247 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: impressed the hell out of it. And I respect the 248 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: coaching staff's opinion. They, like Dave said, they know more 249 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: than us. They're around the players more than sure. But 250 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 1: we did watch virtually every practice. Yeah, and I didn't 251 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: see it art difference. Yeah. And you started having to 252 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: pay attention to kicking because of the two days where 253 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: Bailey was awful. Yeah, so all of a sudden, now 254 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: Rob Phillips's charting and Todd Archer's chart every charting kicks, 255 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: which we never did. You kind of didn't have to 256 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: back in the day. Yeah. Do you think the kickoffs 257 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: have anything to do with this? I mean, do you 258 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: the new kickoff rule that if you don't, you know, 259 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: smash it out of the end zone, then it's gonna 260 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: be you know, you have a chance for bigger returns. 261 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: Do you think this has anything to do with that? 262 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if this other guy is 263 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: a better kickoff. That's a good question. But I don't 264 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: have a great and I don't need I hate when 265 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: I have a bad answer. Well, that's a good question 266 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,719 Speaker 1: for two PM. Yeah, I mean, that's that's that is 267 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: a good question. Maybe yeah, maybe, I mean, what how 268 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: many times you're gonna kick off in a give an 269 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: NFL game, like five to eight? Yeah, yeah, you hope, 270 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: but maybe maybe you know, with Dan's injury history, you know, 271 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: that's a strain that if somebody he might not hold 272 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: up to, if they come out and tell us it's 273 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: a confidence issue. Okay. Can you picture Jason Garrett saying 274 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: though I can't. We just didn't trust him anymore. Okay, 275 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: if he maybe waves us off. Yeah, he's turning those 276 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: I think they need to rethink this Monday afternoon press 277 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: conference on you know, we we go to the training 278 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: camp and he talks every single day in practice. He 279 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: then he talks again in the walk off, and then 280 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: it all comes down. Everything you're seeing comes down to 281 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: this September two, Saturday, Like they finally cut thirty six 282 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: guys and then it's just silent for two days. Yeah, 283 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: Like I don't esupposedly want to cut like this. Most 284 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 1: of the teams in the league got a conference call 285 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: on Saturday. Now, Yeah, so really, yeah that would be good. 286 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: That's what they should do. And you making people mad. 287 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: I didn't like seeing that email, just Dan Bailey Oklahoma State, 288 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: like among thirty six cuts. I just think he deserved 289 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: better than that, and we just is a captain, Yeah, 290 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: you cut a cat. You're right, you cut a captain 291 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: from your team in a Pro Bowl? Was a captain too? Right? 292 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: Come on, we're just throwing shade at everybody. You're just 293 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: feeling feeling feeling good because the Tigers got the win. No, 294 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: I'm not, And I don't think that Garrett talked about it. 295 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: Right then? Did he send out a release did he 296 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: say we're you know, we appreciate everything that Orlando. No, 297 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: So okay, that's the way it is. Then it's a 298 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: it's a it's a head scratcher man because just think 299 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: of I mean, look this team. He's fighting to win games. 300 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: That's that's and that's why which a guy. He's fighting 301 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: to win games and he cut a Pro Bowl. That's 302 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: the most accurate. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. 303 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: Everything is going against him. You know, if I've told people, 304 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: if I was him, I would be in Jerry Jones 305 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: office every day, ask him about rural Thomas. I'd be 306 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: there every day, which, hey, maybe you know to go 307 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: back to my point, maybe the flip side it. Maybe 308 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: behind the scenes, it's been in the last six weeks 309 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: with Dan. Maybe they're just convinced that he doesn't have 310 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: it anymore, and they go like a baseball pitcher, they 311 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: are bound to have a more informed opinion than we are, 312 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: and they see a twenty eight year old guy who 313 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: maybe he's on the upswing, just who just nailed a 314 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: nearly sixty yard or in preseason. I'm just trying to 315 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: think about thought process exactly. He's twenty eight, twenty, he's 316 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: been in CFL most of his career. Actually went to 317 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: camp right here in thirteen and he was Bailey's reserve guy. 318 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: He was there to keep Bailey from having a kick 319 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: all all the time. Yeah, it's great. I always thought 320 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: if they had to make a move at kicker and 321 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: replace Dan Bailey, we would have a tryout of like 322 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: four guys that have been through the league. We've seen 323 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: this before, We did it last year when he was hurt. Yeah, 324 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: something like that. It's harder to replace him or Witten. 325 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: And I mean, m I just give an idea for 326 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: I'm hard. Jason Witten is going to the Hall of Fame. 327 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: But it was not obviously not down the second half 328 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: of last season, but for most of the seven years 329 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: he was here, Scott Linehan used to say he'd sit 330 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: on the bench, they'd make adjustment to sit down, you know, 331 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: and he would they send the field goal team out. 332 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: He knew they were gonna get three points. That's what 333 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying. They just immediate every he starts, they start 334 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: their little talks with the quarterbacks because they new three 335 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: points was gonna be up on the board from fifty five. 336 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: And then you get on the other side of that 337 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: star is at and t that thing's going home. That's 338 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: exactly so. All due respect to Jason Witten, but that 339 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: is a hell of a nice thing to have in 340 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: your back pocket. But it wasn't the case last half 341 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: of last year. Right missed five field goals, two extra points. 342 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: I'm trying to, I'm trying to rationalize what's happening. Puts 343 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: on a tie. He can feel us, okay, Scrob McClay. 344 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: Every year, Brian is feeling it, today's feeling it. I'm 345 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 1: trying to. I'm trying to work us through this. There's 346 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: no logical answer. Is do I think it's a risk? Yes, absolutely, 347 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: especially because you're going to play a good football team 348 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: on the road this week, and how many games in 349 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: Jason Garrett's career have been decided by I'm gonna go 350 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: look that up and I'm gonna tweet that out. Yeah. 351 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: The other thing that I think is worth bringing up 352 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 1: to is like Brett Maher has done nothing wrong. Whatever, 353 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: we'll figure it out this week. He has done nothing wrong. 354 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 1: He has done what all football players dream of doing, 355 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: which is like play well enough to earn a roster spot. 356 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like people are going to 357 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 1: be against this guy because of what the Cowboys did. 358 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: It's not his fault. It's the same thing with those 359 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: tight ends. Yeah, I'm swaying those guys. None of those 360 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: guys could play worth the damn because Jason least Jason 361 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: wit and retired. Imagine if they just cut him because 362 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 1: they felt good about Swainmore. Uh So, I'm I am 363 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: now rooting for it for Brett because there's gonna be 364 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: so what's going on The first time Garon's gonna go 365 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: for it? Like the first time this twenty four yard 366 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: field goal is like, Okay, he's good. Unless this guy 367 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: hits his first ten in a row all through the 368 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: season like his. I mean, if his first miss is 369 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: in the first three weeks of the season, like as 370 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 1: Dan Bailey twenty four yard miss San Francisco, he misses 371 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,719 Speaker 1: a Yeah, that's true if he misses from like but 372 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 1: Dan had a chance to redeem himself later in the game. 373 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: He was gonna get cut if he didn't get that chance. 374 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 1: Twenty seven twenty seven yard field goal or freaking thirty 375 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 1: five yard field goal shanked left and like week one 376 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: in a tie game at Carolina, it sounds like a nightmare. 377 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: It's gonna be It's gonna be four guys working out 378 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: on Tuesday. Oh yeah, Dan Bailey was gonna be one. 379 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: Oh man, I don't we all think he's gonna have 380 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: a job fairly quickly? He's working out. He's working out 381 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: with the Jets today. Job. Yeah, you know what, that's 382 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 1: a really good point. Yeah, this is a good many 383 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: Oakleoma State guys are on the team now. I tweeted this, 384 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 1: boyse's the new jam? Now is the news? Is there 385 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: a single oaky steak guy left? Yeah? There was seven 386 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 1: of them at one point in time. Or lemon, Oh boy, 387 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: life comes at you fast. It sure does well. We 388 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: thought we were going to break down the biggest news 389 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: coming out of Stady's cuts was gonna be like six 390 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: receivers versus five versus seven. We got a little Dan 391 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: Bailey news that took up twenty one minutes the first show. 392 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 1: You got some other news. You want to do that 393 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: after the break, Yeah, let's take her first break. We'll 394 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: come back with some roster moves that have been made today, 395 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 1: some stuff that was made over the weekend in addition 396 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: to Saturday's cuts, and get into what that fifty three 397 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: looks like next. 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Eight 444 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: five five two two nine seven is the number if 445 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 1: you want to sound off on Dan Bailey getting cut 446 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: or anything the Cowboys have done. Roster wise so far 447 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 1: got some roster moose today, Davey, Right, yeah, and you 448 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: were the one that reported that stuff. Yeah, Noah Brown 449 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: is going to IR Yes, thought that was gonna happen, 450 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: didn't we Yeah, we did. Deontay Thompson is coming back. 451 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 1: So that's that very I mean, you had to keep 452 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: Noah Brown on the fifty three in order to recall 453 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: him later if you want to. So I would guess 454 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: that they kind of told Deontay, hey, hang out in 455 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: Fristco for a day or two and you'll be back 456 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: for practice. Um, so he's back. And then Darius Jackson, 457 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: who was put on the practice squad is now a 458 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: member of the Green Bay Packers. They put them on 459 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 1: their fifty three. Happy for him. And now Bo Scarborough 460 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 1: is back on the practice squad here. So all right, 461 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: So that's eight spots filled, I believe on the practice squad. 462 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: Jordan Chun another running back, probably put a kicker one 463 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: you could you're just on one today? Oh I just 464 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: who did they bring bank? Drace Anderson as Lenoir, Yes, 465 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: Charles Tapper, yeah, every o. There's a list of eight guys. 466 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: I don't recall them all. By the hero Dres Anderson. Uh, 467 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't know he was Flipper Anderson's kid. Yeah, 468 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: until Brad and I were doing the game today. Amazing 469 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 1: down the stretch. Now there's there's an example of a 470 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 1: guy who comes in. We're like, we're a week into camp, 471 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 1: maybe two weeks into camp, gets a workout and plays 472 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 1: well enough to get himself a practice squad job. Okay, 473 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: there you go. You're looking at you're looking at you're 474 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: looking at working at Low's, you know, or a home depot, 475 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: one of those places. You know it can help you 476 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: find some paint, ma'am. No, now you're gonna be catching balls. 477 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: It's Dres Anderson, Jake Campos, the offensive lineman, Jordan Chunu, 478 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: Bo Scarborough, now Lance Lenore, Donovan Alumba, Kyle Quero, and 479 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: Charles Tapper. I'll tell you what, maybe the most important 480 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: guy on that practice squad right now is Alumba because 481 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 1: they're only carrying four corners. Cornerback carrying four corners. So 482 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 1: unless somebody out there magically appears, he's here's your guy. 483 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: If you get a hamstring or one of these crazy 484 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: things we have happened to these corners. He's now playing. 485 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,679 Speaker 1: He's your fifth or your here's your guy in you 486 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: know you said it, Um, you said it several times, Brian. 487 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: About the one thing this team can't do, any GM 488 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:53,719 Speaker 1: or coach can't do is fall in love with their 489 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: own team. And maybe that's right. They didn't fall in 490 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 1: love with Dan Bay, didn't. I mean, when you think 491 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: about it, they didn't do that. They actually, you know, 492 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 1: they didn't fall in love with the guys like bow 493 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: Scarborough or anything like. There you go. Now he didn't 494 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: come back. But I mean, nobody signed anybody except for 495 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: now Darius Jackson, but nobody claimed any of those players 496 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 1: at all, um until Jackson. So that just kind of 497 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 1: goes to show that other teams weren't falling in love 498 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: with them either. Well, but didn't I believe I saw 499 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: this was our thirty eight someone I saw a tweet 500 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: thirty eight players league wide got claimed thirty nine. Yeah, okay, 501 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 1: so you know that's a lot. I mean, that's that's 502 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: a that's kind of a low number for a lot 503 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 1: of waves. That's and eleven by the top two guy 504 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: teams in the claiming order in New York and Cleveland. Yeah, 505 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 1: we talk a lot. We talk about every year. I mean, 506 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: you're always there's always some guy you're in love with. Wow, 507 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 1: you can't cut Lands or in Scarborough. Rico gathers. Rico gathers, is, 508 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: but if you look at our cut to fifty three, 509 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 1: who's the fifty third player we had? Rico gathers. Yeah, yeah, 510 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: let's get into that well, just really quickly. I just 511 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: I like, I applaud them for I don't know if 512 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: outside the box thinking is the right way to say it, 513 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: but you know, I even you know, I'm sitting there 514 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: trying to make the roster. I'm like, well, you gotta 515 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 1: have three running backs in the NFL, you don't, uh, 516 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 1: and you know whatever, We'll cut Darius and Bow and 517 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 1: whichever one of them gets claimed, we'll bring another one back. 518 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: It's fine. We don't need to crowd up our roster 519 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 1: with a guy we don't actually need, especially if you 520 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 1: you hope they're never gonna play anyway, my opinion, you 521 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: have four because you have uh, half of a running 522 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: back with jama'z Olawally and Tavon Austin has a sixty 523 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 1: career carries not that's a good point for you. That's 524 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: a good point. Yeah. Yeah, So no need to I 525 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: mean that was a possibility if you're going to carry 526 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: three quarterbacks, four tight ends, nine offensive line, nine offensive lineman. Yeah, 527 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: but you know what what do they do? They went out, 528 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: they traded for an offensive lineman. They claimed an offensive lineman. 529 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: So you're three backup lineman on Sunday or three players 530 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 1: that were not here last year, and two of them 531 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,239 Speaker 1: aren't even here last week, right, Yeah, if you think 532 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: about Anger and Redman and then he had Fleming and Fleming, yeah, 533 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: those are your backups for this game. Yeah, and Kadeem 534 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: Edwards cut yesterday to make room for You're probably be 535 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: a practice squad guy. Yeah, Brian, if you got and 536 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: take a look at the two those two lines, Yeah, yeah, Anger, 537 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 1: I have a why Anger So reports up on Dallas 538 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot com, and then this afternoon I'll have Redman's report, 539 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,479 Speaker 1: and I'll tell you what. My initial thing about Redman 540 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: is that if you think about what Marcus Martin could 541 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: have been here as the backup swing guard tackle, this 542 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,719 Speaker 1: guy primarily just plays as a center. But he's a 543 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,400 Speaker 1: better center than what Marcus Martin was here. And yeah, 544 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 1: so but he's a he's a lighter guy, he's a 545 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: more athletic guy. They I see why they signed this 546 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: guy because he's he's he's got scheme fit to him. 547 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 1: He's a puller, he's a reacher, he's a you know, 548 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,360 Speaker 1: he's a second level guy. He's a getting the way blocker. 549 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: He's not gonna sit there and hammer you off the line, 550 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: but he can when you have to cut the defense 551 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: in half, get to the second level and turn it 552 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: back in kind of give the back a chance to 553 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: make a cut of This guy can do that. So 554 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: I you know, when you look at him and anger 555 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: those guys, I me they got better. The whole idea 556 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 1: was to get better than coldeem Edwards, and I think 557 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,199 Speaker 1: they've done that with the guys that they've put on 558 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: this roster now. So that's good. And I think it 559 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: condeem Edwards to the practice squad. That's good. Then he 560 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 1: can continue to work development, hopefully get stronger, and then 561 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,919 Speaker 1: you know, maybe down the line you can you can 562 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: put him in line because he he wasn't terrible. He 563 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 1: was good. Listen. He went from being a guy last 564 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: year that was an immediate cut to a guy that 565 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: was on your fifty three man roster. So that that 566 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: shows you made a little progress there. Um, can we 567 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: talk a little bit of Frederick? They so far they 568 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: have not done anything with Travis Frederick. Yeah, I want 569 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: to talk to Garrett about that when this thing kicks off, 570 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: which I mean he probably I don't think they still know. Yeah, 571 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: I'm curious because they're gambling here. It's it's a lot 572 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: like Tony Romo is, well, the longer you leave him 573 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: off of IR or the longer it is till you 574 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: can bring him back. Um, So, like you said, gamble 575 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: or maybe they feel really optimistic, but how many weeks 576 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: can you afford to carry a guy that can contribute eight? Yeah, 577 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: I guess so. I mean if you're if you're willing, 578 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: if you're willing to, if you're willing, you mean up 579 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: to eight weeks. If he goes past eight weeks, now 580 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: you're now you're going to think about, Okay, what do 581 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: we need because they'll be right around the by, right, 582 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: but what I kind of they might need a guy 583 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: or something like that, one of those things. But it's 584 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: still might need a spot for David Irving here in 585 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: four weeks if things don't approve. Yeah, it's it's just 586 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: dicey to think about carrying a guy on the fifty 587 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: three who has no chance to help you. What about 588 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: Dayton Jones? They carrying him as well for the time being. Yeah, 589 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: really really thought. I mean, I've been told that Brian 590 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,959 Speaker 1: Price is a guy that could be He was cut yesterday. 591 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: Yeah for the for for those two moves that we 592 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: just talked about. We haven't really talked about the safety yet. 593 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: Abraham Abraham Ibrahim. Yeah, Campbell, I'll tell you what though. 594 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: He had a good game against the Cowboys on thus 595 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: to night. Like Brad and I called his name quite 596 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: a bit, kind of a strong safety build. Nick Northwestern 597 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: been a couple of different spots. Fourth round pick by 598 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. I started some games and he has 599 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: started some games at five two fifteen. He's a thick 600 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: looking guy and he will come and hit you. Now, 601 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: that's one of the things I was impressed. But you know, 602 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: Houston played him as some single high stuff. You think, 603 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: you think, oh, maybe he's just a strong safety banger guy. 604 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: They played him some deep and he there was a 605 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: couple of times where I remember the ball going inside 606 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: the slant that was dropped by Gallup. Remember that in 607 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,479 Speaker 1: the game where they threw the slant inside and gallop 608 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: just I mean Campbell was on the fly to try 609 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: and get there and make the play. So you know 610 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: he's got some He's got some understanding of where he 611 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: needs to fit in, like some zone drops and things. 612 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: You could see him cover some ground. I think I 613 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: was most impressed by his ability to hit. I mean 614 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: I saw a big body coming inside and wrapping guys 615 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: up and tackling in a good way. And maybe that's 616 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: a little bit more than you know, always get on 617 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: Xavier Woods of not being a tackler. This guy is 618 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: a tackler. No more are we going to say that 619 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: this fourth preseason game is meaningless if that guy is 620 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: doing something that caught the Cowboys. I obviously the kicker 621 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: just made a fifty seven yard I think that affected things. 622 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: Things happened in the fourth game. But it's not for everybody. 623 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: But there are some Sure does any other surprises that 624 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: came out of the cuts? I mean, we were and 625 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: four we keep saying that. I'll tell you what though, 626 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: I should say this surprise. He outplayed Dalton Schultz. He 627 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: did outplay Dalton Schultz. Dalton Schultz wasn't as good as 628 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: he needed to be. All the way around, or just 629 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: as a pass catcher. I think all the way around. 630 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz really didn't do anything blocking. Yeah, I mean 631 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: there was some liability there with him blocking. I did 632 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: not see that same player day that we watched in 633 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: the draft show that you know, we talked about Will Disley, 634 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: the guy from Washington, really good blocker, and Dalton Schultz 635 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: really good blocker, the guy Ian Thomas right that the 636 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: Dolphins getting the Indiana kid. Yeah, Carolina, Carolina see him. Yeah, 637 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I knew it was a heel, kind of 638 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: a jersey close enough, but you know it's kind of 639 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: one of those things where you're sitting there going, Okay, 640 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: well they have a chance to grab him, could they? 641 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: You know, he was he went in like the third round, 642 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: third round. But I'm just saying, though, when we were 643 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: talking tight end, yeah, no, I mean we were talking 644 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: about blocking when you were talking about him. Jason Witten 645 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: has not even hadn't even decided to retire though, you 646 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: know if you go back and sometimes that happens. But 647 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: like the draft, the narrative around the draft was that, 648 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: you know, he went to Stanford, he's ready made. He's 649 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: not going to take long to adjust. You sound like 650 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: me talking to I know, I'd say me was everybody. Yeah, 651 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: there were a lot of people who thought he was 652 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: like the sneaky, most intriguing draft prospect. Well cameraon me, 653 00:32:55,640 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: Kent didn't work out that way. But the the the 654 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: thing with the Cowboys is I don't. I don't. This 655 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: is not a knock on the Cowboys because I agree 656 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: with it. He's a fourth round pick. He's right, he's 657 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: a talented guy, and he's smart. He needs to as 658 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: opposed to Rico, he needs to he may need a year, 659 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: he needs time, he needs to bulk up, he needs 660 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: to practice, and all that good stuff. I'm not ready 661 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: to pull the plug on him. And I don't blame 662 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: the count Rico. I'll play in the roster. That's fine. 663 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 1: So you keep four, You keep four, and you say 664 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: we really need bo Scarborough. Yeah, now I'm green with 665 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: you on that. So there you go. So and it 666 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,719 Speaker 1: worked out okay, honestly, sorry Nick, but we went over Bailey. 667 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: That's surprising to me. But everything I really like everything 668 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: else that they've done. You know that you bringing it 669 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: about safety with some starting experience. I'm not ready to 670 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: pull the plug on the Mic White experiment quarterbacks are 671 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: like lottery tickets. What about the backup spot? I mean, okay, 672 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: I don't like I don't like that situation. But I 673 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,479 Speaker 1: said that a week ago. If you didn't like, if 674 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: you wanted to do something about your backup quarterback, you 675 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: needed to do it in March, Like why don't go 676 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 1: sign Teddy Bridgewater to a one year deal or Robert 677 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 1: Griffin whatever. But trying to do something now, it's the 678 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: bed is made for me. I don't care. Well. I mean, 679 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: unless there's a young guy that's been cut that's out 680 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: there that you'd like it, say it. I'm down to 681 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 1: bring on Paxton Lynch or O'Connor cook to work out. 682 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not just gonna sign him, sign him 683 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: sight unseen. Youin't claim those guys. It's not another one 684 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: that got cut. Um Davis Webb. Yes, yeah, you're right. 685 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,919 Speaker 1: So I'm just I would just way there. I would 686 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,919 Speaker 1: like the way those guys come work out. I don't. 687 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: I mean, they didn't like the world on fire? How 688 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: about the Giants? About the Giants telling you that Davis 689 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:42,919 Speaker 1: Webb was a reason why they were going to draft 690 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: a quarterback at two, Yeah, how about that so much 691 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,320 Speaker 1: for that? Ye didn't David's Webb the gain that started 692 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: in Brooke Eli Manning Street for one game? One game 693 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: that was Geno wasn't I know You're right? It was, 694 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 1: You're right. Da Webb was there. He was right, he 695 00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: was Gino Smith. Do you have a thought on rec 696 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: even worse? Yeah? I think, um, I mean all along. 697 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: I mean, Rico needs to practice, He needs to be 698 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: on the practice squad. I don't think anyone thought he 699 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: could get there. Well, you know, when you spend the 700 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: Saturday morning of cut day in jail to start the day, 701 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 1: I think there's a good chance you can clear waivers 702 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: and go to the practice squad while the team is meeting. 703 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: I mean team was here and yeah, at noontime. It's 704 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: like this change things because Stephen Jones says the day before, 705 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 1: I don't think he's probably gonna make it. I don't 706 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 1: think I agree with you for the and honestly, what 707 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: has really changed from three years ago when thirty one 708 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 1: teams sent somebody to his workout at Baylor. It's quite 709 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: a big number. Never played football before thirty one. People 710 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 1: wanted to see him, and he's done nothing to dispel 711 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: that intrigue. Yeah, I mean, and I mean, okay, the arrest. 712 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 1: You never want to get arrested, But like that's not 713 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,399 Speaker 1: going to scare off NFL teams. They'd take on way 714 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: worse people than guys who have pot on them. So 715 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 1: I just I whatever, I don't. I think you probably 716 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 1: lose him if you cut him. And not only are 717 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: they so intrigued by his potential, but I think they're 718 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,359 Speaker 1: terrified of what he could be somewhere else. I think 719 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 1: that's part of it too. Yeah, honestly, can I give 720 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: you a surpriser? Yeah? How about how about Tyree Robinson? 721 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 1: So it's not surprising at all. I thought it was 722 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 1: between him and Dron Johnson. Well surprising that they went 723 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: went and got a safety and he's still on the team. 724 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 1: I thought he was a guy that was gonna get 725 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 1: cuts fair. Yeah, so he's well. You thought he'd played well. 726 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,399 Speaker 1: I thought he did, but I didn't know if he'd 727 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 1: played well enough to get on the fifty three. I 728 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 1: thought they were gonna keep Johnson myself because of familiarity, 729 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 1: And why would you have if if if you look 730 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: at if you look at the situation right now, and 731 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 1: we're gonna find to figure out what's wrong. You know. 732 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 1: Cavon Frasier's is he going to be available this week? 733 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 1: Good question. Cavon Frasier's one good shot away from Tyree 734 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 1: Robinson playing for you right there. If he can play, 735 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 1: he's gonna have to harness up his shoulder, yeah and 736 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 1: gut it out. Yeah. Probably all year. And if they 737 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 1: really thought Byron Jones and Cheeto were guys, they could 738 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 1: slide over into the safety position and they would have 739 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 1: probably kept more cornerbacks. Yeah, please don't do that. I 740 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 1: know right in the game you have to move. If 741 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 1: they were thinking about it, they would probably have more 742 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 1: than four corners on the team right now. Back to 743 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: Rico real quick, talking about forty six man roster, I 744 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 1: mean for the for the game. Yeah, so you know, 745 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 1: Charles Rico, who's your third tight end for this game? 746 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: You know why? Because Schultz plays more special teams. Yeah, 747 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 1: they use all those linebackers and tight ends. Can you 748 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 1: can you can you make them all active? As that possible? 749 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 1: I mean that's not impossible. You could do that. Could 750 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 1: We could go through it real quick, But I mean 751 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: I still think something's gonna use you A Friday Show 752 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 1: for Yeah. Oh, Derek loves doing that. We do it too. Yeah, 753 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 1: it's probably overkill. Mike White, Travis Frederick, uh, the last 754 00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 1: offensive lineman, Aytone Jones, Aytone Jones. We can do this, yeah, 755 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 1: Chris Covington maybe I don't know whatever, we'll do that. Yeah, 756 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 1: we'll do that on Friday. Okay, well fair enough. We 757 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 1: got one s Davier Woods for this week. Maybe next week. 758 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,360 Speaker 1: Oh wait, are we not doing a full hour? We 759 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 1: are doing full Oh you just meant yeah. Okay, So 760 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 1: anything you'd like to add or the wee can tease? Um, Yeah, 761 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 1: a little bit, a little bit of roster news sort 762 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 1: of like minor not not super sexy. No, make it 763 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 1: sound like it's really sexy. Come back for the new 764 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 1: roster information. Dave Helman has sexy roster news next. And 765 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,479 Speaker 1: we've got a phone call waiting on the other side. 766 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 1: And when we come back on talking Cowboys Break Cowboys 767 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,959 Speaker 1: fans know that the second best of anything simply won't 768 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,279 Speaker 1: cut it, and your skincare should be no different. 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This is the Talking 805 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:39,840 Speaker 1: Cowboys Breaking streaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 806 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,720 Speaker 1: the officials Dallas Cowboys App. Welcome back inside the SWBC 807 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 1: Morgae Studio. We're still celebrating LSU's primetime victory over the 808 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 1: Miami Hurricanes last night at AT AT and T Stadium. It's 809 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 1: a lot of fun. Miami fans left at halftime. Oh yeah, 810 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 1: that was bad. There was some, There was some. There 811 00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 1: was not all of them, just some. I'll tell you 812 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,919 Speaker 1: what I was half time left, half time. They're telling 813 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 1: you if you're gonna go to Cowboy games, A yeah, 814 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 1: do that Texas Live. I mean it changed, It's changed 815 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,880 Speaker 1: the whole experience of going over there to games Ranger. 816 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 1: If somebody probably did it right and went to the 817 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 1: Ranger game yesterday where you know, it was two o'clock, 818 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 1: so maybe they didn't have to heat stroke eighteen runs 819 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,439 Speaker 1: there for the Rangers. But you know, you go there, 820 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 1: you go to Texas Live. It's it's just like a 821 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:35,359 Speaker 1: mall of eight different restaurants. Yes's got a really nice 822 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:39,400 Speaker 1: place over there called Troy's. And Pudge Rodriguez has a 823 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 1: place called Pudge's Pizza. H oh man, there's a there's 824 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,880 Speaker 1: actually there's a Lockhart barbecue in there too. Like really 825 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,839 Speaker 1: bad acts. I didn't go. I was I was really 826 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,719 Speaker 1: drinking more than eating. I walk your dinner last night. 827 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 1: I drank my dinner last night. For sure. You didn't 828 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,800 Speaker 1: asked Dave how many beers he had, and all I 829 00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,120 Speaker 1: could pick up was that never ask a navy man. 830 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 1: Never asked an LSU grant, how many drinks? You said, 831 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 1: um no, if if you are a much, If you 832 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 1: are a Cowboys fan, my name is David. Whether whether 833 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:18,760 Speaker 1: you live in Dallas or United Kingdom, wherever you follow 834 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, if you're coming to a game, I can't 835 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 1: recommend going to Texas Live enough. It's like it's right there, 836 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 1: it's in the start and need to go start too, 837 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 1: and well the Star. But do that the day before 838 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 1: the game because Texas Live is literally on the doorstep 839 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 1: of AT and T State. Is it a hard walk 840 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 1: when I had too much to drink? It was a 841 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: six minute walk. It's it's good. It was great. So 842 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 1: you're for Texas Live. It's fine. That's good. That's good. 843 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,640 Speaker 1: Kack black jack black dot com. It's good stuff those 844 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 1: dot com off you go. Yeah, yeah, all these products. 845 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 1: By the way, read your email for the Jack black stuff. Yeah, 846 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 1: I did get some good stuff there. Yeah, okay, fair enough? 847 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:03,279 Speaker 1: Float that up, Jay and Westford. Ginya. What's going on? Man? Uh? 848 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 1: You tell me, guys, how are you doing today? I 849 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 1: hope you guys are going fine. What's on your mind? Well, 850 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 1: quite a few things. After the last few shocking cuts 851 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:19,440 Speaker 1: that I've seen, and uh, like I say, when they 852 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 1: released Bailey, that threw me for a loop. And I 853 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 1: hope Hellman's been stretching out because if Meyer missus one 854 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,840 Speaker 1: in the first two games, he's gonna be kicking for 855 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:36,640 Speaker 1: us or somebody travel otherwise. And uh, congratulations on the 856 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,759 Speaker 1: LS win by the way, Yeah, you guys beat Tennessee too. 857 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 1: Huh always stomped him. There you go. Yeah we got 858 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,839 Speaker 1: a good looking defense. But anyway, the Rico Gathers thing 859 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,840 Speaker 1: I was, I never did like him because when he 860 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 1: was playing for Baylor he beat the hell out of 861 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:55,480 Speaker 1: us in basketball. But I knew when the draft comes 862 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 1: that was a Jerry move. I knew it. I told 863 00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 1: my wife, I said, Jerry'll pick him up. But my 864 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,400 Speaker 1: thing about him and between him and Schultz and I 865 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 1: know Rico, it looks like a screw up ninety percent 866 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 1: of the time. I like the skills with his hands. 867 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:15,839 Speaker 1: But also I've heard of Helman and I've heard brought 868 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 1: us to say that Schultz got tossed around like an 869 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,719 Speaker 1: empty sack of potatoes a few times, a couple of times, right, 870 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,920 Speaker 1: So I mean, how do you weigh that out? Is 871 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 1: it worth having a two eighty five guy in there 872 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 1: that can bully around a little bit and maybe miss 873 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,760 Speaker 1: a player here, or or Schultz that just gets tossed 874 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,399 Speaker 1: around every play. Oh, let's not go every play. Yeah, 875 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 1: every place. I mean you're trying to assassinate the man. 876 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 1: But that's okay. Well he's I know, he's young. And 877 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,560 Speaker 1: then when he come out of Standford, I mean everybody 878 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 1: thinks they stand him out. They do, you know they do. 879 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 1: But he's pretty small and not strong enough right now, Okay, 880 00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,400 Speaker 1: do you develop him longer even feel get stronger or 881 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 1: do you hold on to Rico? No, and he's got 882 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:08,359 Speaker 1: the strength but not the Frange's the answers both. I 883 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 1: think that played out on Saturday, which is John Denver 884 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 1: song right now, by the way, it's it's and we 885 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,360 Speaker 1: kind of touched on that a minute ago. But I 886 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,319 Speaker 1: think it's interesting because, Okay, Schultz is a fourth round 887 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,359 Speaker 1: pick coming from a power program that that you think 888 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,160 Speaker 1: runs the football in physic they developed these type of guys. 889 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,719 Speaker 1: You feel really good about his potential even if it 890 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,760 Speaker 1: hasn't shown up in the last month. Yeah, Rico is Rico. 891 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 1: He's got a sky high ceiling for for a certain 892 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:35,880 Speaker 1: type for big plays. Basically, you know what I mean, 893 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,759 Speaker 1: he's got a lot of um who do you I mean, 894 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,239 Speaker 1: if these were just two back, if if these were 895 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,239 Speaker 1: just conbind him, well, no, what I'm saying is if 896 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:49,279 Speaker 1: it's the perfect tight end, if they weren't such intriguing resources, 897 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,280 Speaker 1: you would probably cut one or both of them. And like, honestly, 898 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,200 Speaker 1: I said it during training camp, I wouldn't be surprised 899 00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,279 Speaker 1: if you tried to claim like a veteran tight end 900 00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,759 Speaker 1: off of somebody else's team, like not a great tight end, 901 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,279 Speaker 1: but just a guy who knows how to lock. But 902 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 1: these guys, James Hannah, where are you James hand type player? 903 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,279 Speaker 1: But these guys are both so intriguing. I really I 904 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,279 Speaker 1: he did not look great at all. I would not 905 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 1: trust him to do a lot in the regular season. 906 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,280 Speaker 1: But I would not be happy if they cut Dalton 907 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,440 Speaker 1: Schultz because I don't. I think it's too soon in 908 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:21,719 Speaker 1: his career to just him. But I'm disappointed that I did. 909 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,480 Speaker 1: I thought, you know, I think I thought I saw 910 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:25,920 Speaker 1: a guy. I thought, I mean, and now I know 911 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,919 Speaker 1: it's the first you know, it's training camp, and heck, Nick, 912 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 1: you and I did a point counterpoint. I told you 913 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:33,719 Speaker 1: I thought he was gonna start, and I thought it 914 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:40,359 Speaker 1: would be Darwin's that we both happens tied in one 915 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,960 Speaker 1: since day one, right, Yeah, has not let go of it. Yeah, 916 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,759 Speaker 1: but Jarwin, Darwin's gonna have his snaps. Yeah, No, he 917 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,640 Speaker 1: and there. This team's gonna do twelve personnel and probably 918 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,920 Speaker 1: thirteen personnels at some point. If I had to guess, 919 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,799 Speaker 1: I just basically, I think they view both of those 920 00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:58,560 Speaker 1: guys as too intriguing to cut, even if they're not 921 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,440 Speaker 1: really ready for prime time. And I don't know what 922 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,320 Speaker 1: that means. Bad luck cutting tight ends here, That's true, 923 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,680 Speaker 1: and I have that's one of those things in your mind. 924 00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:10,360 Speaker 1: You go, okay, if you let this guy go, probably 925 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 1: making the Pro Bowl next year. You know when I'm saying, yeah, 926 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,720 Speaker 1: I think guys leave here and go have productive careers. 927 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,279 Speaker 1: I mean, I know Gavin Escobar got cut yesterday or 928 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,279 Speaker 1: day before, one of those things, but you've had some 929 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,600 Speaker 1: guys go off and have good careers here. I absolutely 930 00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,879 Speaker 1: could be wrong. Again, you know, don't fall in love 931 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,080 Speaker 1: with your own roster too much, but I think Dalton 932 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,360 Speaker 1: Schultz would get claimed by somebody if he were released. 933 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:39,399 Speaker 1: I do. So I don't know how that's gonna work 934 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:44,040 Speaker 1: both of them, honestly, I really I do um and 935 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,319 Speaker 1: so I'm just curious how they play that in the 936 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,200 Speaker 1: regular season because somebody's got to contribute. Who do you 937 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 1: trust more? I don't know, Probably Schultz if I had 938 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:56,319 Speaker 1: to guess, but we'll see. Yeah, I think Schultz just 939 00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,359 Speaker 1: needs We've seen a lot of guys at a lot 940 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:02,600 Speaker 1: of different positions, first full year in an offseason program 941 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,480 Speaker 1: remake their body bigger, stronger. I think we're seeing it 942 00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,400 Speaker 1: a taco a little bit this year. Maybe that's what 943 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,200 Speaker 1: I need. Hope, maybe that's what he needs. When you 944 00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,640 Speaker 1: when you were talking inactive did you did you say 945 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:19,000 Speaker 1: Mike White or or a Cooper, which I mean I 946 00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,440 Speaker 1: don't think, no Cooper, You're not gonna put You're not 947 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,960 Speaker 1: gonna put three quarterbacks on the No. I don't know 948 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,960 Speaker 1: how you could that makes sense. I was just I 949 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,040 Speaker 1: was just thinking about that with with like, you know, 950 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,239 Speaker 1: if I still think, you know Rico could give you 951 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:37,200 Speaker 1: something in the red zone area, It's just that, can 952 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,200 Speaker 1: you can a guy just be a red zone player 953 00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:40,640 Speaker 1: and that's it? I mean, I don't I don't think 954 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,560 Speaker 1: give you anything on specialty, right, he could give who 955 00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:49,279 Speaker 1: gives you more big plays? Potentially Rico or Tavon Austin. Hey, 956 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,479 Speaker 1: I'm all in on Tavon Austin. Turned out some scout 957 00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,440 Speaker 1: had some scouts around the league telling me, they, hey, 958 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,439 Speaker 1: what's up with Tavon Austin. I'm like, well, they're doing this, this, this, 959 00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,200 Speaker 1: this and this with you know, I'm all describing him, 960 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,760 Speaker 1: and then they'll every one of them goes, well, he's 961 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,919 Speaker 1: got to show me. He's gotta show me. Hey, he's 962 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:06,880 Speaker 1: got to prove to me he could do this. They're like, 963 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,360 Speaker 1: they're like, when you guys made the trade, you know, 964 00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,799 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, geez okay, but they he goes, but 965 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:15,400 Speaker 1: they he's got to prove he can be a real player. 966 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,799 Speaker 1: That's one hundred percent fair because we're not the four 967 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,000 Speaker 1: guys saying that. We're not the first people to be 968 00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,439 Speaker 1: intrigued by his talent. He was a top ten pick 969 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,880 Speaker 1: like pet and you look around, you know, I follow 970 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,400 Speaker 1: I follow damn near every NFL writer there is all 971 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,120 Speaker 1: I mean hundreds of people that cover the league, and 972 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,839 Speaker 1: they all that's the national narrative is like, yeah, this 973 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,080 Speaker 1: isn't the first summer where people have been excited about 974 00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,799 Speaker 1: Tavon Austin. So it's a fair criticism, but he has 975 00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,600 Speaker 1: looked really good with this team and I think he's 976 00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,640 Speaker 1: gonna have a pretty sizable role in the office. Ask 977 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:49,959 Speaker 1: another question, Yeah, it's not about Tavon Austo defense. We've 978 00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:53,879 Speaker 1: seen Byron Jones have a really good training camp at 979 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,960 Speaker 1: safety and then kind of played just okay. It's just 980 00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,440 Speaker 1: the year that he goes from having a really good 981 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:03,320 Speaker 1: training to playing like a really good training camp that 982 00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,000 Speaker 1: we see him getting his hands on a lot of 983 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,319 Speaker 1: balls and see him getting interceptions and we see him 984 00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,560 Speaker 1: being the player that we saw because we all kind 985 00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:13,160 Speaker 1: of at the last year. I believe he was our 986 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,520 Speaker 1: man of the match, you know, as far as the 987 00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:19,680 Speaker 1: overall one of the best. I'll answer that question if 988 00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:21,880 Speaker 1: you can answer one for me. Is Randy Gregory going 989 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,120 Speaker 1: to be playing a lot? Because if Randy Gregory is 990 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:27,000 Speaker 1: out there playing with DeMarcus on the other side, I 991 00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:30,200 Speaker 1: think that these cornerbacks have a chance to be really good, 992 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,759 Speaker 1: both of them, maybe Cheeto even Pro Bowl. Like. They 993 00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,000 Speaker 1: got to get interceptions and how you do that is 994 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,760 Speaker 1: yours starts up front. So if Randy Gregory and DeMarcus 995 00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:41,680 Speaker 1: Lawrence are playing like I think that they're going to 996 00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:46,080 Speaker 1: play with Taco coming in and Armstrong coming in. Then 997 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:50,160 Speaker 1: I think Byron Jones has a chance to be really good. Yeah, 998 00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,000 Speaker 1: I think he has a chance to because I think 999 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,480 Speaker 1: he's in a position now where it's him against another 1000 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,319 Speaker 1: guy and he can go make a play. I think, 1001 00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,640 Speaker 1: you know, the role for him became playing back, playing 1002 00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:04,400 Speaker 1: deep last year and he just run up kind of 1003 00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,719 Speaker 1: oh wait, mister tackle there now, it looks really bad, 1004 00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:08,880 Speaker 1: kind of what we've talked about Xavier Woods. His role 1005 00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:10,680 Speaker 1: so far can't we haven't seen a lot of plays. 1006 00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,680 Speaker 1: I think he's in a position now where, especially the 1007 00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:14,560 Speaker 1: way they want to play their corners, they want to 1008 00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,239 Speaker 1: be aggressive, they want to jam guys. This might be 1009 00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,520 Speaker 1: a perfect fit for him. That's what they're banking on anyway, 1010 00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:23,279 Speaker 1: and christ Rashard's type of secondary I think that's a 1011 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,200 Speaker 1: really good point is that I know there's more to 1012 00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,640 Speaker 1: it than this. I'm not trying to oversimplify, but it's cornerback, 1013 00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,040 Speaker 1: like to cover the guy across from you'll get it. 1014 00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,760 Speaker 1: And that's so it's a lot less to worry about. 1015 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,920 Speaker 1: And I think maybe it allows him to use his 1016 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,360 Speaker 1: natural athleticism a little more so, I hope so it 1017 00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,200 Speaker 1: would be a bummer if that happened two years in 1018 00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,440 Speaker 1: a row, because he Brian's right, he was maybe the 1019 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,799 Speaker 1: man of the match for two straight camps. Yeah, for real, 1020 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,799 Speaker 1: he's been great in camp. Hopefully it translates they need 1021 00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:58,720 Speaker 1: to be better with Gregory or do they need Jalen Smith? Both? 1022 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,200 Speaker 1: Can I just both? That's the thing, you mean, if 1023 00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,479 Speaker 1: you get both, if they both play the way they've 1024 00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,319 Speaker 1: looked in camp, this defense is gonna be pretty freaking good. 1025 00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you do the fan pulse things on 1026 00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,759 Speaker 1: our talking those are these are great? He's great. No, 1027 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:14,759 Speaker 1: I just wanted to who needs to be better? Um? 1028 00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,279 Speaker 1: Who do they? Who do they need to be? You're 1029 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:22,160 Speaker 1: you're deeper, Gregory? Give me? I mean, if you're really 1030 00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,200 Speaker 1: talking about like if better means he can get me 1031 00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:29,000 Speaker 1: like eight nine, ten or more sacks, give me that. 1032 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,840 Speaker 1: That's another question. Why is Layton Vanderish getting letting the 1033 00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:37,440 Speaker 1: people letting him slide? Because for two reasons, because of 1034 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,359 Speaker 1: the two guys you, he has not taken the He's 1035 00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,640 Speaker 1: not taking the heat like Taco did. Last year. It's 1036 00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,320 Speaker 1: the two guys you just mentioned. He has not taking 1037 00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,279 Speaker 1: the heat. That's fair because I honestly, as you mentioned, 1038 00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:51,640 Speaker 1: got a point. Jalen Smith has been dynamite, right, so 1039 00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,839 Speaker 1: you're not that was the talk. It's like, well, we're 1040 00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,800 Speaker 1: not sure what Jalen's gonna be around draft. You drafted 1041 00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,040 Speaker 1: Vanderish thinking that you might have something that might be 1042 00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,239 Speaker 1: something problem with the Challe Smith and the rise of 1043 00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,160 Speaker 1: Randy Gregory has made you forget about quietly. Yeah, the 1044 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,040 Speaker 1: first round picks sitting out of practice the last two 1045 00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,080 Speaker 1: weeks more than that. I and it was like it 1046 00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,960 Speaker 1: was the last practice in Oxnard. So he probably got 1047 00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:16,399 Speaker 1: hurt on October. They got hurt one of those drills periods. Yeah, 1048 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,600 Speaker 1: I say October just now he did. Jeez, I yeah, 1049 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:23,440 Speaker 1: I was out late last night, August August sixteenth. Um, 1050 00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,160 Speaker 1: is he getting a pass? Right? Now? Here's is that 1051 00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:29,319 Speaker 1: because of the linebackers. Let's let me here's where I'm 1052 00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:31,480 Speaker 1: going with this. One of the reasons the line I 1053 00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:35,280 Speaker 1: always hurt. Okay, I get it, but I'm I'm about 1054 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:36,920 Speaker 1: to sound like I'm giving him a pass because I 1055 00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,359 Speaker 1: know a nineteenth overall pick is supposed to pure but 1056 00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,719 Speaker 1: think passed. Like the short term, get over the short term. 1057 00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:46,759 Speaker 1: Whatever he's he's hurt, you gotta let him come back. 1058 00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:48,680 Speaker 1: It's the saw I'm with you. I'm with you on that. 1059 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:52,560 Speaker 1: Jalen Smith looks amazing. Sean Lee is an all pro. Right, 1060 00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,920 Speaker 1: Layton vander esh can have plenty of value in the 1061 00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,960 Speaker 1: long run, not just this season because it's a seventeen 1062 00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,440 Speaker 1: week season. I mean, Cheeto and Jordan Lewis did nothing 1063 00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,520 Speaker 1: last year for like the all of training camp and 1064 00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,440 Speaker 1: most of the first month or two of the season. 1065 00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,120 Speaker 1: What happened by the end of the year they were starting. 1066 00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,239 Speaker 1: It is a long season. People are going to get hurt. 1067 00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:16,440 Speaker 1: Sean Lee, love him, God bless him. Got a pretty 1068 00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,960 Speaker 1: well documented track record of getting hurt. You're gonna need 1069 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,279 Speaker 1: Layton Vanderesh And even if you don't need him this year, 1070 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,360 Speaker 1: he's under contract for five years. How many more do 1071 00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,720 Speaker 1: you think Shaun Lee's gonna play? It's also the news cycle. 1072 00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:29,879 Speaker 1: You're right, you're absolutely right. But if if we didn't 1073 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,440 Speaker 1: have all this, Hey, Gregory's back, Gregory's looking like a 1074 00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:37,080 Speaker 1: pro bowler is Gregory? Their focus would shift right to 1075 00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:41,279 Speaker 1: number fifty five. I mean, yes, if Jalen Smith wasn't 1076 00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,600 Speaker 1: playing that well, and then yeah, it's kind of a 1077 00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,120 Speaker 1: tricky situation because you got, on one hand, wanted to 1078 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,880 Speaker 1: be healthy. You mean, yeah, right, but you also like, 1079 00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:50,680 Speaker 1: if they wouldn't to the draft, so we're not gonna 1080 00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:52,640 Speaker 1: take the linebackers we got Jalen Smith and we got 1081 00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,400 Speaker 1: Shawn Lee, we'd be like, really gonna put your eggs 1082 00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,319 Speaker 1: and in both their baskets because of that. But then 1083 00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,239 Speaker 1: when they both play well and they're on the on 1084 00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,880 Speaker 1: the field, then you're like, why did you draft Dalen 1085 00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:05,239 Speaker 1: I mean Vanderesh? Yeah, you know, I mean it's like 1086 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,759 Speaker 1: you had to cover yourself. Even David Wilson's playing pretty 1087 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:10,319 Speaker 1: well to what you're saying, well, are you gonna pla 1088 00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,120 Speaker 1: him at Sam lineback? I just babe, Wilson's playing all right. 1089 00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,080 Speaker 1: By the end of the day, they're gonna be happy 1090 00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,680 Speaker 1: they have Laden Vanderesh. That's my story. Mcderwin, James, is 1091 00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:23,359 Speaker 1: hec about how about him inactive for the first game? 1092 00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:27,000 Speaker 1: Layton very well could. Yeah, it's a good bet. But again, uh, 1093 00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,439 Speaker 1: Cheeto was right. No, Cheeto got hurt in the first 1094 00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,160 Speaker 1: game and then was inactive for three or four after that, Like, hey, 1095 00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,440 Speaker 1: back in Green Bay, right, stuff happens. I think he 1096 00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:39,000 Speaker 1: played in that Denver game and then got hurt. No 1097 00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:43,320 Speaker 1: Jordan did, Cheeto did remember the whole ring delay and 1098 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,080 Speaker 1: lightning delay. He played and got hurt and yeah, yeah, 1099 00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,719 Speaker 1: Jordan wound up playing a lot that game. No Jordan did. 1100 00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,640 Speaker 1: I know? Chet went out early, went out early, and 1101 00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:55,279 Speaker 1: against Denver in Green Bay. I it's not great if 1102 00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:58,360 Speaker 1: your nineteenth overall pick is not playing and playing well. 1103 00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,560 Speaker 1: But it's like it's a long season, it's a long 1104 00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:04,080 Speaker 1: contract too, Like I'm I don't know, I'm not and 1105 00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,320 Speaker 1: I didn't ask that question. The guys in front of 1106 00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,480 Speaker 1: him are playing so well and it gives him leeway. Unfortunately, 1107 00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,719 Speaker 1: he's got hurt. It's unfortunate. That's a pretty strong group 1108 00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,440 Speaker 1: a linebacker. So I kind of believe that he's gotten 1109 00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,440 Speaker 1: a pass, and I mean that in a nice way 1110 00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:22,640 Speaker 1: because of the linebacker play. Overall, Absolutely, this is as 1111 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:24,560 Speaker 1: good as a linebacker corps looked. We're getting out of 1112 00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,600 Speaker 1: here early quickly. Your sexy roster news. Oh right, um, 1113 00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,759 Speaker 1: Dorrence Armstrong is no longer than seventy four. I think 1114 00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,640 Speaker 1: we all knew he'd be moving. He's wearing fifty eight. Now, 1115 00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,920 Speaker 1: there it is. Bob Lily's number is safe. You knew 1116 00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,080 Speaker 1: they weren't going to give Bob Lily's number two a 1117 00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:44,759 Speaker 1: ro so we knew it. Edwards huh, Dixon Edwards fifty eight. 1118 00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:49,960 Speaker 1: He was fifty eight. Demontre Moore was fifty eight. Miller 1119 00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,799 Speaker 1: von Miller. That's a better one. Good. Yeah, let's hope 1120 00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,239 Speaker 1: that one. That's a good, strong pass rushing number. There. 1121 00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,400 Speaker 1: I like it. Giga Maggie's all right, uh and go Tigers, 1122 00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:05,600 Speaker 1: by the way, Thomas by the way, fifty eight yeah, blur. 1123 00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:07,839 Speaker 1: Al right, guys, we gotta get out of here. Give 1124 00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:09,600 Speaker 1: a couple of minutes for Jason Garrett to head up 1125 00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,239 Speaker 1: to the podium. 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