1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Good morning. 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 2: I'm Brian Curtiz and I'm Doug Krisner. Here are the 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 2: stories we're following today. 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: Democrats and Republicans avoiding a government shutdown. The compromise is 5 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: a spending bill that will keep the US government open 6 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: until November seventeenth. The stompgap spending bill was passed by 7 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 1: Congress and signed by President Biden on Saturday night. The bill, however, 8 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: does not include more funding for Ukraine. However, Biden's budget 9 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 1: director Shalanda Jung says she sure it will be passed later. 10 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 2: Those votes are there, We know there's a willing coalition, 11 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 2: and I certainly expect members and the Speaker to keep 12 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 2: their commitment not to us, but the Ukrainian people. 13 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 3: We told we would be there. 14 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: That Shalanda Young. The federal stopgap deal also gets financial 15 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: markets a little breathing room. Some analysts had warned that 16 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: an extended closure of federal agencies would spur fresh gyrations 17 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: in the treasury curve and also hit stocks. For now, 18 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: Democrats and Republicans have watched some time to negotiate longer 19 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: term funding. 20 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 2: We go to Apple next. The company is blaming a 21 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 2: software bug for the way some of its new iPhone 22 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 2: fifteens are getting hot. The iPhone maker also said some 23 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: third party apps are overloading its system. 24 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: Now. 25 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 2: Apple said it's working with developers behind these apps, and 26 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: the company set a fix is coming to address the 27 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: problem very soon. You know, some users have said on 28 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 2: Instagram that these apps are making the phones too hot 29 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 2: to handle. 30 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: Bran Well, yeah, let's take a closer look at this 31 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: one two factory downtime that could slam the brakes on 32 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: Tesla's winning streak. The story from Bloomberg's Denise Pellegrini. 33 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 3: Well, Tesla has broken four quarterly car delivery records in 34 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 3: a row, but that could be about to change because 35 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 3: over the summer the electric vehicle makers shut down some 36 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 3: of its facilities to make upgrades. Also, it's possible it's 37 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 3: being hit by consumer inflation pain, with potential buyers having 38 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 3: a harder time making big purchases. Because NLE is surveyed 39 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 3: by Bloomberg estimate, Tesla will report as soon as Monday 40 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 3: it delivered almost four hundred and fifty seven thousand cars 41 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 3: in the third quarter, below the just about four hundred 42 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 3: and sixty six thousand units delivered in the second quarter. 43 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 3: This would be the first decline since early twenty twenty two. Meantime, 44 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 3: in China, Tesla has just released an updated model Y, 45 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 3: slightly faster with a new wheel design and added lighting. 46 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 3: The starting price, though remains the same. Denise Pellgrity Bloomberg 47 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 3: Radio Well. 48 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: Over the weekend we got the official PMI data for China. 49 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 2: This would be for the month of September. Some encouraging signs, 50 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 2: to say the least, brought a little bit of frailty 51 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 2: as well. Bloomberg's Joanne Wong has more from Hong Kong. 52 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 4: China's manufacturing activity returned to expansion for the first time 53 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 4: in six months. The official PMI rose to fifty points 54 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 4: two in September from forty nine point seven in August. 55 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 4: But Bloomberg Economics says the data show that the rebound 56 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 4: is highly unbalanced, as a price drop in the chic 57 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 4: in manufacturing PMI also signals some fragility. It's a reminder 58 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 4: that without more policy support, the recovery could stumble. The 59 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 4: non manufacturing sector Accelerated media communications of financial services are 60 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 4: gaining and are becoming key drivers of the recovery in 61 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 4: Hong Kong. 62 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 5: Join one Bloomberg Radio. 63 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: McCaw's casino gaming revenue growth decelerated last month, but it's complicated. 64 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's Bonni Oo has more from Hong Kong. 65 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 5: Gross gaming revenue grew more than four hundred percent to 66 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 5: one point eighty five billion dollars in September. That sounds 67 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 5: like a massive jump, but revenues are still down about 68 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 5: one third from pre pandemic levels. The results were mostly 69 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 5: in line with estimates. Growth is expected to accelerate in October, 70 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 5: in part due to China's eight day Golden Week holiday. 71 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 5: Analyst predict gaming revenue could return to seventy two percent 72 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 5: of pre pandemic levels. That would be the highest percentage 73 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 5: since the onset of COVID in Hong Kong. I'm Bonnie 74 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 5: Ol Bloomberg Radio. 75 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: So it's and take doug in both the Hong Kong 76 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: and Chinese economies. Now you find yourself constantly saying, well, 77 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: there was some improvement. Then on the other hand, there 78 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: was this, and we saw that with the PMI report, 79 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: and then also for Hong Kong, retail sales jumped in 80 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: in August, a lot of mainland visitors coming back, but 81 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: we had a million people leave over the weekend. Just 82 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 1: about a million people. We only have seven point three 83 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: million people living in Hong Kong. And although that's holiday 84 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: time and you can understand pend up desire to go, 85 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if it's a good thing or a 86 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: bad thing, because obviously, you know, with that many people leaving, 87 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: that's a lot of people that wouldn't be spending money 88 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: in Hong Kong. 89 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 2: And a little bit of debate here in the US, 90 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 2: Brian Bloomberg Economics is saying that a US recession is 91 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 2: still more likely than a soft landing. Our economist, you're 92 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 2: looking at things like the major auto strike that we're 93 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 2: dealing with right now, along with the resumption of student 94 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 2: loan repayments. We can maybe say for the moment that 95 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: the government is staying open, we have avoided a shutdown, 96 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 2: but it may they yet come back after November seventeenth, 97 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 2: and that may all of these things together may shave 98 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 2: as much as one percentage point from GDP for the 99 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,239 Speaker 2: fourth quarter. And then if you look beyond that, things 100 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 2: like dwindling pandemic savings, higher interest rates, higher oil. Maybe 101 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 2: if you take all of this stuff together, we could 102 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 2: be looking at a recession before the early part of 103 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 2: maybe next year or as soon as the end of 104 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 2: this year. 105 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: Sounds like you're saying we shouldn't expect too much of 106 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: a relief rally in the next couple of days. We'll 107 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: put that question into Dana Doria. She's coming up a 108 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: cocio at invest Net and also a moment of truth 109 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: for House Republicans, now what this means for Kevin McCarthy 110 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: and for a challenger like the Florida Congressman Matt Gates. 111 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: So we'll see that's something we can put to our 112 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: guests all throughout the morning. 113 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 6: Any final thoughts before we move into the next phase. No, 114 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 6: I think it covered it. But you're right about the 115 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 6: risk for the equity market. You know, for September, the 116 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 6: S and P five hundred, it had its worst month 117 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 6: of the year. And if you look at the quarter 118 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 6: that we just ended, the third quarter, the first quarterly 119 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 6: loss we have seen since the third quarter of twenty 120 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 6: twenty two. 121 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is a mini correction. Does it become a 122 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: full blown correction in the equity markets? And how do 123 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: we sort that with all the negative news that is 124 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: looming again? More fodder for the great guests that we 125 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: have coming up again, Dana Doria coming up shortly. Now 126 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: it's time for Global News. Well, House Speaker Kevin McCarthy 127 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: is facing a movement to oust him from his position. 128 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: We get more from Dan Schwartzman in New York. 129 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 7: Dan, Yeah, Brian, it's getting very contentious right now. We 130 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 7: have Florida Republican Matt Gates saying he's going to be 131 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 7: filing a motion this week to vacate the chair. It's 132 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 7: a parliamentary process that hasn't led to the removal of 133 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 7: this speaker since nineteen ten. The far right Republicans are 134 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 7: angry with McCarthy for embracing a bipartisan dealed of what 135 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 7: a government shut down that didn't take into consideration the 136 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 7: deep spending cuts that the right wingers had wanted. Now 137 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 7: McCarthy's going to need a simple majority of House members 138 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 7: to vote for him to be able to stop the 139 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 7: effort to remove him. Gates says he's going to do 140 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 7: what he can to remove and replace those who won't 141 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 7: tackle spending in deficits. 142 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 8: If all the American people see is that it is 143 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,239 Speaker 8: a uniparty that governs them, and that it is always 144 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 8: the Biden, McCarthy Jeffreys government that makes dispositive decisions on spending. 145 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 8: Then I am I am seeding the fields of future 146 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 8: primary contests to get better Republicans in Washington who will 147 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 8: actually tackle these deficits in debt. 148 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 7: That's FLOUDA representative Matt Gates. Earlier today on ABC's This Week, 149 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 7: Donald Trump expected to attend the opening of his New 150 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 7: York civil trial Monday. Trump's accused of committing fraud by 151 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 7: inflating his net worth by billions of dollars in financial transactions. 152 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 7: The Republican front runner for the twenty twenty four presidential 153 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 7: nomination is in jeopardy of losing control of his real 154 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 7: estate empire after judge authorized New York Attorney General Letitia 155 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 7: James to cancel certificates for companies that hold the assets. 156 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 7: Trump's presence at the civil trial is not mandatory. In 157 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 7: a blow to Ukraine, Slovakia has a lot Robert Fico 158 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 7: as its prime Minister. Fiko returns to the post he 159 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 7: resigned from back in twenty eighteen after public outrage over 160 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 7: the killing of an investigative journalist. Fico has publicly called 161 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 7: for ending military aid to Ukraine, while also deriding the 162 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 7: European Union's sanctions against Russia. Thailand expected to see a 163 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 7: four billion dollar increase in tourism revenue as a result 164 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 7: of the five month holiday period visa exemption program with 165 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 7: mainland China. In just the first two days of the program, 166 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 7: Thailand saw twenty two thousand Chinese tourists visit the country. 167 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 7: Before the pandemic, Chinese tourists were the number one group 168 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 7: of visitors to the country pre pandemic. Now, Thailand is 169 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 7: hoping that tourism will help jumpstart its slong economy and 170 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,719 Speaker 7: keep it from falling into a recession. Europe winning the 171 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 7: Ryder Cup, beating the United States sixteen and a half 172 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 7: to eleven and a half in Rome, with Roy McElroy 173 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 7: leading the way and Tommy Fleetwood delivering the winning points. 174 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 7: The US was coming off a record nineteen to nine 175 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 7: win over Europe just two years ago at Whistling Straits 176 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 7: in Wisconsin. The US came in confident that they could 177 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,079 Speaker 7: end the thirty years of losing away from European and 178 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 7: sore they haven't won since nineteen ninety three. Team USA 179 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 7: is going to get another crack at it to win 180 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 7: in Europe. Ireland's hosting in twenty twenty seven, Global News 181 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 7: twenty four hours a day, power by more than twenty 182 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,439 Speaker 7: seven hundred journalists and analysts and more than one hundred 183 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 7: and twenty countries. I, Dan Schwartzman, this is Bloomberg. 184 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg. Deybreak Asia, Brian Curtis and Rashad Salommat 185 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,599 Speaker 1: here in Hong Kong. Our guest is Dana Duria Cocio 186 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: at Nvestnet. Dana, thanks very much for joining us. It's 187 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: been sort of a negative Paul hanging over markets here 188 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: of late, particularly equity markets, but the bond market has 189 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 1: struggled as well. I don't suppose that the shutdown averted 190 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: is the catalyst to shock us out of that, is it? 191 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 9: Well, I don't know that it's enough of a catalyst 192 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 9: to shock us out of that, but it's certainly good news. 193 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 9: I think it's it's news that the market wasn't expecting. 194 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 9: You know, I get information from a lot of economic sources, 195 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 9: and I would say to you that it was pretty 196 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 9: much assumes to be a foregone conclusion that we were 197 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 9: going to have a shutdown, and in fact, a lot 198 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 9: of what I was seeing was concern about it being 199 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 9: potentially lengthier than average, just because of the acrimony even 200 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 9: within the House, let alone, you know, between the House 201 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 9: and Senate. So I do think it's a pretty positive 202 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 9: development for markets. I think it has positive repercussions around 203 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 9: concerns or at our ability to tackle things like the debt. 204 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 9: But to your point, at the end of the day, 205 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 9: shutdowns are really not a big impact on equity markets. 206 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 9: They're not even a big impact on GDP growth. They 207 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 9: really don't have a correlation. So you know, this is 208 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 9: nice news for a time, but at the end of 209 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 9: the day, probably not a huge impact. 210 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 10: But then you know, the thing is it starts off again. 211 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 10: It's only six weeks or seven weeks do we get 212 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 10: to all over again that the thing is is there 213 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 10: a better way of doing this? 214 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 3: Oh? 215 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 9: Yes, I mean, you know, it's interesting the United States 216 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 9: puts itself through this, right, it's a pretty abnormal when 217 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 9: it just are that we kind of go through this 218 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 9: struggle of are we going to pay our bills? You know, 219 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 9: both shut down as well as you know, raising debt limits. 220 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 9: And yeah, there certainly is. But you know, it's a 221 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 9: I guess a sign of the times that you have 222 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 9: to be really happy that McCarthy kind of stepped up 223 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 9: and said, you know what I'm I'm just I'm going 224 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 9: to do the sensible thing here, and you know, give 225 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 9: us some time to try to work through the problems 226 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 9: as opposed to letting the government shut down. So you know, 227 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 9: it's incrementalism here, I guess, but yeah. 228 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: For sure, it sort of is what it is. I mean, 229 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: Rish would have us go back to Plato in Theories 230 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: of society, you know, which is it's not easy to 231 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: rewrite the way that the US does business. Well, let's 232 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: talk about the impact going forward. That aside the impact 233 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: going forward for markets. Are we in this period where 234 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: we we should probably expect things to to deteriorate slightly 235 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: in the equity and bond markets until we get some 236 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: sort of major catalysts and what that might be, well, 237 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: we can't imagine at the moment. 238 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's fair. 239 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 10: You know. 240 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 9: Part of my comments I'll say are about what should 241 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 9: you prepare for maybe than trying to predict exactly which 242 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,839 Speaker 9: way it goes. And I think everyone's you know, given 243 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 9: obviously where markets have gone this year now, notwithstanding September, 244 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 9: but just you know, pretty great returns in a year 245 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 9: that the expectation was you know, softness at best. So 246 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 9: you know, I think you know, you're seeing even the 247 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 9: kind of most dug in bears saying, oh, maybe we 248 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,959 Speaker 9: will stick this landing, which is fantastic if we do, 249 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 9: but unfortunately a lot of you know, monetary policy acts 250 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 9: with a lag. Consumer confidence now drifting lower. We know 251 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 9: the auto strike, we know loan repayments coming back in. 252 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 9: You know, luckily not a shutdown, but just a lot 253 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 9: of headwinds facing the consumer. And you know, personal consumption 254 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 9: is far and away the biggest part of GDP as 255 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 9: a single element. So and it's been the consumer kind 256 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 9: of propping up this economy along with employment. We're seeing 257 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 9: a little bit of signs of softness there too, So 258 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 9: it's certainly not a reason to say. 259 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 8: Yes. 260 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 10: Just want to say, inflation comes almost always in three cycles. 261 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 10: You know, you don't just have one and it is done. 262 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 10: I mean, we made in the second cycle, you know, 263 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 10: in the offing because we've got high fuel prices. Let's 264 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 10: forget that the unions ultimately want more money. That's going 265 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 10: to perhaps create that demand pull part of the inflation problem. 266 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 10: And the other theory is you can't really kill the 267 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 10: beast of inflation without tipping the economy into recession. 268 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 9: It's typically the case, and it's very much that tightening 269 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 9: cycles tend to push us into recession. And this was 270 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 9: a very abrupt tightening cycle. Right, So your comments are 271 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 9: exactly on point. Inflation tends to come in waves. These 272 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 9: are all more reasons to be, you know, somewhat cautious, right, 273 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 9: if you're an investor, it's not Look, it's not to 274 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 9: say get out of markets. Obviously, that you do that 275 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 9: and you potentially miss you know what highs that could 276 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 9: be coming still, but you know you should be circumspect 277 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 9: and not be sort of chasing equity markets. I think, 278 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 9: and I do because exactly the reasons that we're discussing here, right, 279 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 9: the consumer getting a little softer, unemployment, and have we 280 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 9: really broken the back of inflation? 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