Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, boys and ghouls, gather yourself around in
Speaker 1: the flickering radio dial and be amazed by the terrifying
Speaker 1: but true tales of the NFL trade deadline. Happy Halloween, now, oh.
Speaker 2: My goodness, let's hope the Vincent Price estate doesn't come
Speaker 2: for us.
Speaker 3: If they do, we.
Speaker 2: Will shift them head east to Zumwalt Manor in Connecticut.
Speaker 2: Dan Hans is here, Heroes virtually, Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal.
Speaker 3: It is indeed happy Halloween.
Speaker 2: It is also the trade deadline in the NFL, and
Speaker 2: we have a bunch to talk about what's going on.
Speaker 4: Boys, get to be back with you.
Speaker 5: I just feel bad for that, you know, kid at
Speaker 5: the Halloween parade this morning wearing a Montees Sweat Commander's
Speaker 5: jersey like just a big al right off.
Speaker 3: The bat he tried to get in.
Speaker 2: Yes, we are awesome mourning and I guess it is Halloween, so.
Speaker 3: Mourning is part of the whole thing.
Speaker 2: Death, the death of young and Sweaty, the Washington nickname
Speaker 2: that really I thought had some traction Mark Sessler. There
Speaker 2: was even some fans at the Commander's game on Thursday
Speaker 2: night against the Bears that had posed for the photo
Speaker 2: and sent it to us, and it's just one more
Speaker 2: thing that disappears into dust as we all will.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know if it quite hit the potential
Speaker 6: that we solve for it as a duo. And I
Speaker 6: guess though, you'd have to look at it from another angle,
Speaker 6: you know. Josh Harris come in saying the branding of
Speaker 6: Young and Sweaty is too hot for this organization. We've
Speaker 6: got to totally dissemble the concept and scatter both of
Speaker 6: them to the seas.
Speaker 2: It's funny because I thought you were going to say
Speaker 2: that the Washington commanders didn't believe that Montes Sweat and
Speaker 2: Chase Young lived up to the potential of what they
Speaker 2: could be, which is certainly probably a fair statement, Young
Speaker 2: in particular, who came into the league as a potential
Speaker 2: generational talent. But let's get into it. Let's start there,
Speaker 2: because I think Washington's decision to not trade one but
Speaker 2: both of their talented young edge rushers tells you a
Speaker 2: little bit about where the commanders are right now and
Speaker 2: where they're headed also is interesting. Let's start with Montes Sweat.
Speaker 2: He goes to the Chicago Bears in exchange for a
Speaker 2: second round pick. This is a move that the Bears
Speaker 2: desperately need some more difference makers on that side of
Speaker 2: the ball, so they come out of this with one
Speaker 2: in Sweat, and then Chase Young he is on the
Speaker 2: move to the San Francisco forty nine ers, who goes
Speaker 2: for a third round compensation pick. So there is two
Speaker 2: big trades, and the Niners, obviously a true Super Bowl contender,
Speaker 2: add a big piece to the puzzle there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd love to go through like all three teams
Speaker 5: and how it impacts it, but I'm going to start
Speaker 5: with the Bears because this was a curious trade, I
Speaker 5: think to a lot of people, and I did find
Speaker 5: it compelling interesting a two and six team trading for
Speaker 5: a guy on the last year of his contract. In trading,
Speaker 5: you know, a high quality pick. It's their second round pick,
Speaker 5: so they're expecting that's going to be somewhere near the
Speaker 5: top of the second round. It's very similar to the
Speaker 5: Chase Claypool trade. And you know, for one, Monte Sweat
Speaker 5: a much much better player than Chase Claypool. So that
Speaker 5: should make Bears fans feel good. But I think it
Speaker 5: was a recognition that not just like having a guy
Speaker 5: locked up long term is valuable, but just control of
Speaker 5: their contracts is valuable. And I like the move for
Speaker 5: Chicago because it was what I talked about in the
Speaker 5: offseason that I looked at their entire roster and I said,
Speaker 5: everyone's excited about DJ Moore. DJ Moore is a good player.
Speaker 5: And then I looked up and down the roster and
Speaker 5: I thought DJ Moore might be the best player on
Speaker 5: their entire roster. And that was one of the reasons
Speaker 5: why I wanted to go under seven and a half.
Speaker 5: I was like, if DJ Moore is the best player
Speaker 5: on your entire roster, that's not going anywhere unless you
Speaker 5: have a genius as a head coach, and they clearly don't.
Speaker 5: Montes Sweat, to me is one of the most underrated
Speaker 5: pass rushers in the NFL.
Speaker 4: I've loved him.
Speaker 5: Really strong, long, and incredible first step, like he's he's
Speaker 5: really got it all except for totally gaudy, you know,
Speaker 5: sac numbers.
Speaker 4: But he's in the middle of his prime.
Speaker 5: I would say he's a top fifteen to twenty at
Speaker 5: the most edge rusher in the entire NFL. He's very consistent.
Speaker 5: Year after year, He's gotten better and better and Bears
Speaker 5: fans think, Okay, that's great, but we only have him
Speaker 5: for eight games.
Speaker 4: It's like, no, you are going to have him long term.
Speaker 5: You make this trade because you're ready to pay him
Speaker 5: whatever it costs, and you franchise tag him if not,
Speaker 5: and you've got a boatload a cap space, and people say, well,
Speaker 5: why not wait till he becomes a free agent, or
Speaker 5: why not sign the top free agent defensive end. The
Speaker 5: top free agent defensive end last year was Marcus Davenport
Speaker 5: like the year, but before that it was Von Miller,
Speaker 5: who's thirty three and was good at the time. I
Speaker 5: went back and looked at all the edge rushers, like
Speaker 5: maybe one or two pop up every three years in
Speaker 5: the middle of their primes. Those guys just don't get
Speaker 5: to free agency, so they've had a hard time getting
Speaker 5: good players onto their roster.
Speaker 4: They did it. I actually I like the move for
Speaker 4: Ryan Pouls and the Bears.
Speaker 6: Well, I think to hinge it off of the fact
Speaker 6: that they have control of the player and they'll get
Speaker 6: get to know the player is absolutely right, because the
Speaker 6: idea that Montez Sweat would have ever picked the Bears
Speaker 6: in free agency is another unnecessary We don't know that
Speaker 6: that's a fill in the blank. I mean, the only
Speaker 6: thing I'd say from the Chicago side, because I think
Speaker 6: Jonathan now and the player is like guaranteed, are almost
Speaker 6: guaranteed to be as good as anything you get with
Speaker 6: that pick, unless you got real lucky, and it could
Speaker 6: be a lot worse with what you might have gotten
Speaker 6: with that.
Speaker 4: Pick in the draft.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so there's that sweat. Yeah, so they're like, why
Speaker 6: don't know, there's there's so many defensive linemen that Washington
Speaker 6: talked about moving that I'm like all over the place
Speaker 6: with this, But I think with sweat, he automatically upgrades
Speaker 6: a defense that desperately needed pass rush. At the same time,
Speaker 6: this is a front office that has a lot of
Speaker 6: like up and down maneuvers, like the Chase Claypool thing.
Speaker 6: We all get it. You gave a second form a
Speaker 6: year ago, sold them for nothing. You also like tore
Speaker 6: down the defense and gave away Roquan Smith, And it's like, so,
Speaker 6: I like that you're getting this player, but I find
Speaker 6: their like team building approach to be a little bit
Speaker 6: all over the place.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I hear that, And until they start to
Speaker 2: show that they're making progress, it's fair to question the
Speaker 2: decision making, but I think it's okay for a team
Speaker 2: that's out of contention to make a big splash like
Speaker 2: this because you do have to build. You got to
Speaker 2: get some dogs in that building, like Greg, you're saying,
Speaker 2: and this is a dog, and you have control over
Speaker 2: him at least beyond you have the franchise tag gear.
Speaker 2: So that makes sense, and I think I think it
Speaker 2: makes sense for everyone because Washington had decided internally, I
Speaker 2: think what the expectation was is that they were going
Speaker 2: to move one of these guys and then pay the other.
Speaker 2: But they made a decision to go in a different
Speaker 2: direction entirely for reasons that they don't have to share
Speaker 2: with people. But obviously they're maybe not as high on
Speaker 2: a sweat's upside here, and they get a top forty
Speaker 2: pick most likely out of it. I mean, it could
Speaker 2: be like the Chase Claypool pick, which was I believe
Speaker 2: thirty two. It could be, you know, thirty three to
Speaker 2: thirty six. I mean, this is a really high value pick,
Speaker 2: and let's move to the Chase Young move because they
Speaker 2: send him to the Niners for that third round pick,
Speaker 2: and that is a move, Greg that the the Niners.
Speaker 2: You know, try to set aside the three game losing streak,
Speaker 2: but also maybe the timing. If you're you're gonna have
Speaker 2: a three game losing streak, have it right before the deadline.
Speaker 2: So it really gives you a more clear eyed view
Speaker 2: of your roster and what your flaws are and where
Speaker 2: you think you need to get better. So they go
Speaker 2: and they do get better. And I remember talking before
Speaker 2: the season started that maybe that defensive line wasn't what
Speaker 2: it used to be under Salah and even Demico Ryans.
Speaker 2: And now you add a guy that has, even though
Speaker 2: he's never truly met his expectations as a superstar type talent,
Speaker 2: he has that ability, especially playing across from Nick Bosa.
Speaker 5: And next to Hargrave in Armstead and kin Law. And
Speaker 5: you're right, no one really stepped up in that other spot.
Speaker 5: They just signed Randy Gregory. He actually played okay in
Speaker 5: a couple of games they had him, but he was
Speaker 5: just a bit of an afterthought. They have Drake Jackson,
Speaker 5: Cleveland Pharaoh, and for the price, it's like, why wouldn't you?
Speaker 5: Why would I'm a little surprised he could only get
Speaker 5: a compensatory third round pick.
Speaker 4: This is a team.
Speaker 5: In Washington, and we'll get to the Washington side of it,
Speaker 5: because they must just decided we're trading him no matter what,
Speaker 5: no matter what the offer is, because a high second
Speaker 5: for sweat. Okay, that's one thing. I'm a little surprised.
Speaker 5: You don't want to keep them. But maybe they look
Speaker 5: at it like they have Deron Payn, they have Jonathan Allen.
Speaker 5: They already paid those guys a lot of money's defensive line.
Speaker 5: We don't want to put it all on the defense line. Okay,
Speaker 5: you got a high second. What's the point of a
Speaker 5: compensatory third. That's the one hundredth pick in the draft.
Speaker 5: It's like, that's so low is it even worth it?
Speaker 5: And I think opponents are going to be thinking, how
Speaker 5: did how did we let the forty nine ers get
Speaker 5: away with it?
Speaker 7: Because gm app right, right? Gm App Chase youngis just
Speaker 7: not to interrupt at yeah, please the point I was
Speaker 7: making there. It does kind of smell like there's maybe
Speaker 7: more to it. But maybe the relationship or what they
Speaker 7: you know, what they believe, or the upside or internally
Speaker 7: what kind of player they think that the guy is,
Speaker 7: what kind of.
Speaker 2: Locker room presences. I think there seems to be more
Speaker 2: to it to make this move now.
Speaker 5: Sure is sure, but he's like only been there, Like
Speaker 5: you're only going to have him for eight more games.
Speaker 5: I think there had been questions about his you know,
Speaker 5: approach to the game, and he's been extremely up and down.
Speaker 5: He was the defensive Rookie of the year, good good
Speaker 5: rookie season. Has been injured and disappointing when he's played
Speaker 5: the last two years. But this year's top ten in
Speaker 5: the league in pressures mark like, he's top twenty in PFFS,
Speaker 5: you know, pass rust grade. He's incredibly productive. In one
Speaker 5: more game, he will have more pressures this season than
Speaker 5: even even had during his defensive Rookie of the Year season.
Speaker 5: And I know he's like not as subtle and not
Speaker 5: as complete as a guy like Joey Bosa or Nick Bosa,
Speaker 5: but who cares. He's your number two pass thrusher and
Speaker 5: he's been incredibly productive this year. He's like he's a
Speaker 5: great case for like I'm in a contract year, my
Speaker 5: career is in the balance. I'm gonna put it together
Speaker 5: and have a much better season, and he has so far.
Speaker 6: I think it's the Niners are a team that if
Speaker 6: they only have him for nine games, that's the right
Speaker 6: team to go do this, and you know they have to.
Speaker 6: They already had two third round comp picks because of
Speaker 6: ran kart On taking over the GM job in Tennessee
Speaker 6: and Demiko Ryan's going to Houston. So this was essentially
Speaker 6: highway robbery. Yeah, I mean, this is a classic what
Speaker 6: good teams do. And you know, there is incredible upside
Speaker 6: to him, and if it doesn't work out, like they'll
Speaker 6: find a way to reload in the off season as
Speaker 6: they always do. And I think you know they saw
Speaker 6: Seattle make a big move yesterday, Seattle suddenly sitting on
Speaker 6: top of the division. It's like, we're not going to
Speaker 6: be left outside the Marine.
Speaker 2: There's a health component to Chase Young as well. He
Speaker 2: suffered a really bad, bad knee injury in twenty twenty
Speaker 2: one where he tore his ACL but also ruptured as
Speaker 2: pteller tendon, which is one of the more serious knee
Speaker 2: injuries a football player can have in terms of that
Speaker 2: area of the body. So if you're Washington, I'm sure
Speaker 2: you know that plays a factor as well in terms
Speaker 2: of his durability going down the line. And then for
Speaker 2: San Francisco, yes, they have Bosa and he is one
Speaker 2: of the best ends in the league, but there are
Speaker 2: other non Bosa defensive ends. Cleveland Farrell, who's gotten talked up,
Speaker 2: is having a bounce back season, but come on, Drake Jackson,
Speaker 2: Kerrie Hyder Junior, and Randy Gregory. Of that group, Farrell
Speaker 2: has the best pass rush win rate at seventeen percent,
Speaker 2: and that all four of those guys have combined. This
Speaker 2: is from ESPN for five and a half sacks and
Speaker 2: twenty two pressures. So there was a void there. And
Speaker 2: if he does play his butt off here and play
Speaker 2: at a high level and Bosa, maybe the numbers aren't there,
Speaker 2: but he's still getting to the quarterback himself and the
Speaker 2: sacks will come. That could be like a janga piece
Speaker 2: that falls into plays for this team.
Speaker 5: It's crazy. I bet he actually will make it to
Speaker 5: free agency. I said that the Bears made the sweat
Speaker 5: move because I don't think players like that get to
Speaker 5: free agency, and so I thought it was a creative
Speaker 5: way to get.
Speaker 4: Him onto your team.
Speaker 5: Young has a pretty good chance because I just think
Speaker 5: he's going to be set up for success. Everyone shows
Speaker 5: up there and has success because of their defensive line.
Speaker 5: Coach in the system that they run, and I just
Speaker 5: don't think San Francisco is gonna be in the position
Speaker 5: to maybe pay market value because it's gonna be suddenly.
Speaker 4: Really really high.
Speaker 5: I just was a little surprised the Commanders were so
Speaker 5: just eager to get rid of these guys because they
Speaker 5: have all the cap space in the world. And you've
Speaker 5: seen a lot of new ownership mark in Cleveland or
Speaker 5: when Jimmy hasn't got there in new gms and what on,
Speaker 5: and we've all seen it, Like, doesn't this just scream
Speaker 5: of Like the owner came in and told Ron Rivera,
Speaker 5: it's like, whatever you do, you just gotta go get
Speaker 5: some picks. I don't care if it's gonna make you worse.
Speaker 5: I don't care if you don't want to do it.
Speaker 5: Just just trade them and get whatever you can. Because
Speaker 5: what's the point of the hundredth pick in the draft?
Speaker 5: I barely see a point.
Speaker 6: I totally agree. I think Josh Harris is gonna be
Speaker 6: seen as a very active owner. I mean, he you know,
Speaker 6: he was involved with the Sixers. You guys know more
Speaker 6: about that than I do.
Speaker 4: But they traded James Harden last night. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean, what of twenty four hours.
Speaker 6: I think, if anything, like you have to look at
Speaker 6: like what is what are the fingerprints the most you know,
Speaker 6: jarring noticeable fingerprints of Ron Rivera. What's this defensive line?
Speaker 6: It was like he went out of his way to
Speaker 6: not go get the quarterback year after year. And it's
Speaker 6: like this was Ron Rivera's vision and it's being taken
Speaker 6: apart piece by piece. I think Ron Rivera is probably
Speaker 6: seen inside the organization as someone that did so much
Speaker 6: in a really tough time. But ownership changes trigger coaching changes,
Speaker 6: and like, what has Ron Rivera done to make an
Speaker 6: argument for himself? I think this is the argument. We're
Speaker 6: not into this vision. I just feel like he's got
Speaker 6: to be realizing it's the end of an era. And
Speaker 6: I think he probably knew that going into the season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's history.
Speaker 5: He gone indeed, well unless he does the Ron Rivera
Speaker 5: thing and like wins five games against bad teams at
Speaker 5: the end of the season, but like like the seventh
Speaker 5: seed to go nine to eight.
Speaker 3: But you're also like what.
Speaker 2: You're saying about the owner is so hot in the
Speaker 2: pants to just have all these draft picks and to
Speaker 2: start the team over in his own vision. I would
Speaker 2: imagine that would come with a coaching change. But Rivera
Speaker 2: does have sway internally. It feels like he seems to
Speaker 2: be respected. We'll see, but I would be very surprised.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know, even with the quarterback Sam Hall,
Speaker 2: and he's coming off a great game, I still stand
Speaker 2: by what I thought over the summer that next year
Speaker 2: you're gonna have a new head coach and a new
Speaker 2: quarterback in Washington.
Speaker 3: We'll see.
Speaker 2: They're obviously making moves, also making moves. The Vikings we
Speaker 2: talked about what are they gonna do? They reeled off
Speaker 2: three wins in a row. They're in a very middling
Speaker 2: conference where there are a couple superpowers and then a
Speaker 2: whole bunch of meh, What are they gonna do with
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins out for the year. Are they going to
Speaker 2: try to trade and give up high value pick to
Speaker 2: try to get another quarterback that can make them a
Speaker 2: playoff contender. Do they do nothing and just develop the
Speaker 2: young guy in the building, Jared Hall. Well, they decide
Speaker 2: to kind of thread that needle and they pick up
Speaker 2: Josh Dobbs, who earlier this season, before the season started,
Speaker 2: was traded from the Browns to the Cardinals, had some
Speaker 2: success in Arizona before being benched ahead of this weekend's games,
Speaker 2: and now they send him to Minnesota, Dobs on his
Speaker 2: third team three months for a sixth round pick. So
Speaker 2: I think there's reporting out there that Hall, the fifth
Speaker 2: round pick rookie will be starting this week against the Browns.
Speaker 3: I believe Atlanta, Atlanta.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, and but Dobbs makes sense as a guy
Speaker 2: once he gets, you know, a little more comfortable, can
Speaker 2: take things over if the rookie can't play the guitar.
Speaker 6: I think if we've seen something about Josh Dobbs in
Speaker 6: all these stops, you know, pulled into Tennessee at the
Speaker 6: eleventh hour, looked competent, didn't need two months to pick
Speaker 6: up the offense. They just trust him to do it.
Speaker 6: It was not spectacular, It's just Josh Dobbs. Same thing
Speaker 6: with Arizona, Like looked competent. I mean the one thing,
Speaker 6: the one little spicy element that he adds. He's ranked
Speaker 6: out his PFF's number three quarterback on the ground and
Speaker 6: he looked like it. I mean, he added a lot
Speaker 6: to that part of their offense. And so I think
Speaker 6: if you're a coaching staff. It's like you could have gone,
Speaker 6: you could have you know, maybe thought about Jamis Winston.
Speaker 6: There were a couple of little options, flavorless options out there.
Speaker 6: Dobbs has been playing, he's been active. It's like maybe
Speaker 6: they just found it to be the most kind of
Speaker 6: it's the middle of the road option. But it's like,
Speaker 6: this guy's proven that he can come in and not
Speaker 6: embarrass you.
Speaker 5: It's uncreative, is what it is. He's literally the guy
Speaker 5: every team goes for when you need a starter next week.
Speaker 5: It's happened three times in a row. I mean it
Speaker 5: worked for Tennessee and we had barely ever heard of
Speaker 5: Josh Dobbs at that point. He was like the fourth
Speaker 5: string quarterback at one point in Cleveland and worked his
Speaker 5: way up, and it worked in Tennessee. It essentially worked
Speaker 5: in Arizona as well as it could have. And now
Speaker 5: they do it again here and Kevin O'Connell talk about him.
Speaker 5: I think he was like a longtime fan. He sees
Speaker 5: the athleticism, he thinks he's really smart and that he
Speaker 5: can kind of pick up this scheme and it gives
Speaker 5: this team, I believe, a much better chance to make
Speaker 5: the playoffs. So they did what I was asking Dan,
Speaker 5: and they didn't have to give up anything for it
Speaker 5: was a sixth for a seven swap.
Speaker 4: That was sort of my point was, well, that was
Speaker 4: what I.
Speaker 3: Was asking too, right, go get somebody.
Speaker 2: Yes, but because you're kind of internally in mourning, don't
Speaker 2: give up a second round pick or something to bring
Speaker 2: in Ryan Tannehill, because what do you with this current roster?
Speaker 2: What are you trying to do? This is kind of
Speaker 2: I think the sensible move. You give up a Day
Speaker 2: three pick, you get a Day three pick back, you
Speaker 2: get somebody in here. It's not going to embarrass you
Speaker 2: if he if he ends up playing, and you just
Speaker 2: work your way through a season that, let's face it
Speaker 2: was cursed and undone by a brutal injury.
Speaker 3: Now, could Dobbs.
Speaker 2: Get hot and with a good supporting cast and Justin
Speaker 2: Jefferson gets healthy, could they sneak in the back.
Speaker 3: Door of the playoffs. Sure? It's a weird conference. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I think kind of everybody wins.
Speaker 4: Here are they there right now? I'm gonna go look, but.
Speaker 3: They gotta be They gotta be a five hundred day.
Speaker 4: They are the seventh seed because they have the tie
Speaker 4: break right now over New Orleans.
Speaker 5: You know behind them is the other losing South teams
Speaker 5: and the Rams and the Commanders.
Speaker 4: I mean, they have a real shot. And Kevin O'Connell
Speaker 4: we have him.
Speaker 5: Actually, he talked today about that he would plan to
Speaker 5: start Jaren Hall this week, but he sort of left
Speaker 5: the door open and also spoke very highly of Dobbs
Speaker 5: and made me think that Jared Hall's gonna have a
Speaker 5: pretty high bar to clear to keep that job if
Speaker 5: he If he does start, I.
Speaker 8: Know he's excited to get going here. So we'll get
Speaker 8: him out here and start the preparation of acclimating him
Speaker 8: and getting him ready to go, you know, potentially on Sunday,
Speaker 8: you know, in a role, in a supportive role of Jared.
Speaker 8: We do plan to start Jaron Hall on Sunday, but
Speaker 8: as you know, we work through the week. We'll keep
Speaker 8: you guys posting on that excited to see what Jared
Speaker 8: can do.
Speaker 4: M left it open a little bit. By the way,
Speaker 4: did you happen to check out my Twitter account last night?
Speaker 3: Probably? Not Dan, your Twitter? Your personal Twitter account?
Speaker 4: Well, just like yeah, it might seek.
Speaker 3: Tweet at you. Yeah, but I didn't like kind of.
Speaker 4: Like that too.
Speaker 5: On top of it, you know, when I saw this news,
Speaker 5: because it had come out from our guys that Dobbs
Speaker 5: wasn't going to start for the Cardinals this week, that
Speaker 5: it was going to be either Clayton Tune, who is
Speaker 5: expected to start according to rap she or Kyler Murray
Speaker 5: if if he's ready to go, And I quickly just
Speaker 5: tweeted out, I did see this, by the way, QB
Speaker 5: one Dobbs, QB one question mark, And we just had
Speaker 5: this big conversation of you know, there can only be
Speaker 5: one insider at every organization you're at, So I just
Speaker 5: want to know if you're feeling the.
Speaker 9: Heat, Oh, Greg Rosenthal, Greg Gregg in the morning, can
Speaker 9: I just ask a question on Dan's behalf?
Speaker 6: Does an insider put out information with a question mark
Speaker 6: at the end?
Speaker 4: Hey, you just sometimes you can't like burn your source.
Speaker 3: There's so many things wrong about what just happened.
Speaker 4: I think they're right. I think they're right, and I
Speaker 4: think they're beautiful.
Speaker 2: No, you're to say I wouldn't. I don't even say
Speaker 2: get off my corner because you're not even in my town.
Speaker 2: But keep keep working at it. You got a triple
Speaker 2: source for starters.
Speaker 3: Mark's right.
Speaker 2: You never ever use a question mark and you're reporting,
Speaker 2: you don't make it something that's up for interpretation. Give
Speaker 2: the people the info they need, Like when I when
Speaker 2: I had that expose on the on the breakdown of
Speaker 2: the relationship between Ian Rappaport and Tom Pellisero on the
Speaker 2: Insiders internal war going on, that was that came from
Speaker 2: digging and then getting like real answers from a third
Speaker 2: party that's boots on the ground.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's what it's.
Speaker 5: I mean, you gotta admit, GREGI in the Morning has
Speaker 5: just a certain ring to it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean maybe Greggy on overnights, maybe we'll be
Speaker 3: open to that.
Speaker 2: I don't like this development, Reggie on the Graveyard shift, Mark,
Speaker 2: how about your theme?
Speaker 6: Oh, I'll be preparing one for our next show. I'm sure.
Speaker 5: I mean you can imagine the hours and hours of
Speaker 5: production that went into the.
Speaker 2: Well that I always yeah that I respect rank the
Speaker 2: fact that you worked on that behind the scenes.
Speaker 3: That you definitely have my respect for that.
Speaker 2: And also you're again wearing the Jerry from Succession T
Speaker 2: shirt that.
Speaker 5: Also you you little slim puppy.
Speaker 2: That also checks boxes for me. Let's take a break
Speaker 2: and then finish the news and TNF preview. All right,
Speaker 2: some more trades. Yes, the trade deadline about twenty five
Speaker 2: minutes ago came and went.
Speaker 3: And while we don't have.
Speaker 2: You know, a quarterback or you know, a high profile
Speaker 2: wide receiver, port Devonte Adams is still stuck in the desert,
Speaker 2: there are players on the move, like cornerback Rozuell Douglas
Speaker 2: who is traded from the fading Packers to the Bills.
Speaker 2: So a third round pick goes to Green Bay and
Speaker 2: a fifth round pick pick goes back to the Packers,
Speaker 2: and that adds some depth for the Bills who could
Speaker 2: use that as well.
Speaker 5: It's really been notable the last few weeks when Kyrie Elam,
Speaker 5: their first round pick from a year ago, is a
Speaker 5: healthy scratch, Like they can't even get him on the field.
Speaker 5: He was their first round pick and he lost to
Speaker 5: Davious White for the season. And you have this kid
Speaker 5: Benford who was taken i think in the sixth round
Speaker 5: of that same draft, who's actually played pretty well, but
Speaker 5: that's it. Like they gave Toron Johnson, who's their slot corner,
Speaker 5: a lot of money and he's to my you know,
Speaker 5: amateur sizes is been getting cooked every week and then
Speaker 5: the other side they really don't have anyone. So Ruzull
Speaker 5: Douglas was one of those Packers that was getting increasingly
Speaker 5: frustrated in press conference settings of just like what a
Speaker 5: mess this is, and maybe that the offense was a
Speaker 5: little bit of a mess, and they're like, Okay, let's
Speaker 5: get this guy out of here.
Speaker 6: A culture fit, I guess yeah, I mean he no,
Speaker 6: but you're right because he was like openly speaking about
Speaker 6: not being a culture fit, I think, and so he
Speaker 6: gets his wish. But I feel like every time we'd
Speaker 6: watch like primetime Packers games last couple of years, like
Speaker 6: Roswell Douglas is making a huge play. He's got ten
Speaker 6: picks over the last couple of seasons, two pick six's
Speaker 6: to the clinch games. He kind of is a really
Speaker 6: interesting fit for the Bills. They needed him. There is though,
Speaker 6: an interesting video out there that I just saw seconds
Speaker 6: before we did the show where Josh Allen, you know
Speaker 6: they're playing the Packers, gets into it with Rozuwell Douglas
Speaker 6: and basically says you suck, And so there's gonna you know,
Speaker 6: he's gotta have to go fit that culture now they've
Speaker 6: got to work on that.
Speaker 2: You'll have been deemed a culture misfit. Here's an interesting trade.
Speaker 2: The Browns. They say goodbye to Donovan People's Jones, who had,
Speaker 2: by the way, this surprised me, nearly nine hundred yards
Speaker 2: receiving last year for Cleveland, but in the Deshaun Watson
Speaker 2: era now had not really found role or much production.
Speaker 2: But he goes to the Lions and the line sent
Speaker 2: back a sixth round pick. So on the surface, it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, Donovan People's Jones, you know he's a guy,
Speaker 2: and you get that back a Day three pick, and
Speaker 2: like that's whatever. But we just happened to watch the
Speaker 2: Lions and we just heard some boo birds out for
Speaker 2: Jamison Williams and the former first round pick Mark has
Speaker 2: not clicked. He's had a suspension for gambling, he's had
Speaker 2: that knee, he had the knee injury, and you just
Speaker 2: wonder if this kind of says something about Detroit's patience
Speaker 2: with a player they invested so much in just last spring.
Speaker 6: I think it's a combination of that development. Marvin Jones,
Speaker 6: who was one of their bigger wideouts, walked away from
Speaker 6: football for for a period of time he's not. They
Speaker 6: don't have him on the roster. So Donovan People's Jones,
Speaker 6: he's sort of been such a hot and cold producer.
Speaker 6: Like you said, he had almost nine hundred yards a
Speaker 6: year ago. This year, like, I think he seems to
Speaker 6: like it's funny because Ben Johnson, the Lions o C
Speaker 6: called him like a high quality player and like a
Speaker 6: good teammate, and so he must have some relationship with him.
Speaker 6: But on the the Browns coaching staff seem to like
Speaker 6: go real hot and cold with him. He had ninety
Speaker 6: seven yards on eight catches this season when they could
Speaker 6: use a wide out help. In general, that's off of
Speaker 6: two hundred and five routes. So I think there's part
Speaker 6: of like not working with Deshaun Watson, not working with
Speaker 6: the other quarterback chaos they have there. So it's a
Speaker 6: better landing spot.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 6: He's I think he's a guy. He's just sort of
Speaker 6: like your third, your third or fourth guy.
Speaker 2: Right, But James and Willison Williams, I guess I want
Speaker 2: to see it'll be he'll be an interesting guy. Track
Speaker 2: his snaps as People's Jones gets ramped up with that team. Uh, finally, finally,
Speaker 2: little AFC South guard talk. Ezra Cleveland, the guard comes
Speaker 2: over from the Vikings in exchange for a day pick,
Speaker 2: and I man, I wish we could go out on
Speaker 2: something a little stronger than that. But listen, having you
Speaker 2: know players that you can add as depth pieces or
Speaker 2: potential starters on your internal line surrounding the pivot that
Speaker 2: matters in pro football.
Speaker 5: He's one of those guys that, like they were always
Speaker 5: threatening to you know, maybe bench or people who watched
Speaker 5: the games didn't love him, but then PFF would have
Speaker 5: him super high, Like he's always ranked in the top
Speaker 5: twenty of PFF. So the Jaguars, big, big PFF fans,
Speaker 5: they had just signed Dalton Riser so they could get
Speaker 5: rid of him. I was almost surprised that Jets didn't
Speaker 5: make a move like this, maybe because Cleveland's, if nothing else,
Speaker 5: he's played a lot and he's he's young. There was
Speaker 5: also a report, by the way, the Jaguars and the
Speaker 5: Patriots were talking, I think this was from Albert Breer.
Speaker 5: We're talking Josh Uce but they disagreed over either fourth
Speaker 5: or fifth round pick compensation, and so it just didn't happen.
Speaker 5: So yeah, that point, just give them the give them
Speaker 5: the fourth or give him away.
Speaker 4: What I'm doing here, I don't know, just what's your
Speaker 4: that close? Just do it? What does it matter?
Speaker 6: They were like they were targeted as like a pretty
Speaker 6: solid bet to go get, you know, defense help on
Speaker 6: the defensive front. So I'm with you, like, what is
Speaker 6: the difference between those two picks. This helps their offensive line.
Speaker 6: They've had some injuries and they've been banged up a
Speaker 6: little bit. But you know, Cleveland plays guard, he plays tackle.
Speaker 6: He's been a better run blocker than pass blocker, except
Speaker 6: this has been his best year pass blocking. So and
Speaker 6: that's of course according to pff I. I'm not saying
Speaker 6: that that's me breaking down his run and pass blocking snaps,
Speaker 6: but helps them out.
Speaker 2: The Jets lost their starter and backup center to the
Speaker 2: ir in consecutive quarters this week, and I don't you know,
Speaker 2: in general, like even though it's been a positive season,
Speaker 2: the jury for me is out on Robert Sala and
Speaker 2: what certain elements of the way he approaches things and
Speaker 2: his game management and even the way some of the
Speaker 2: things he says to the media, like they asked him
Speaker 2: about as you would think, like, hey, you guys gonna
Speaker 2: try to make a trade to get some help on
Speaker 2: the interior line, and he just like dismissed it out
Speaker 2: of hand, like, hey, if there were any good players
Speaker 2: out there, we would we would try to get him.
Speaker 2: But there's no you know, there's no teams that are
Speaker 2: going to be trading you know, good offensive lineman. This
Speaker 2: time of year, it's like Rob, we don't always have
Speaker 2: to talk so much, Like let's let's let trader Joe
Speaker 2: see if he could find like an Ezra Cleveland. Now
Speaker 2: maybe they didn't like Ezra Cleveland internally, but like sometimes
Speaker 2: I just wish Rob would like kind of pipe down
Speaker 2: a little bit, separate the conversation.
Speaker 4: Part of being a New York coach.
Speaker 5: Although I like that, I don't think he tries too
Speaker 5: hard to like be something he's not.
Speaker 4: Sometimes he tries hard, you know.
Speaker 5: It's like when he's he say like if they hate
Speaker 5: and you're not popping, I mean.
Speaker 4: That you know that that's trying hard. But that's just
Speaker 4: who he is.
Speaker 5: I think, so at least at least I think you
Speaker 5: get in trouble, especially in New York, but anywhere where
Speaker 5: you're trying to be like like trying to be a
Speaker 5: tough guy when you're not a tough guy. I think
Speaker 5: he is is who he is. I respect that at.
Speaker 3: Least I liked I liked him.
Speaker 2: You know, he puffed out his chest after the Eagles
Speaker 2: game and said, We've faced all these great quarterbacks and
Speaker 2: we embarrassed them all. And it's like, well, Dak Prescott
Speaker 2: carved you up in Week two. I guess we're just
Speaker 2: not counting certain quarters, just like sometimes I think he
Speaker 2: gets a little carried away.
Speaker 6: Yes, but Dan Way, it'll note like this Jets magic
Speaker 6: carpet ride that I keep trying to sell you on
Speaker 6: one of the great like when they, you know, create
Speaker 6: that three or four hour, eight part documentary about this
Speaker 6: Jets team, one of the features will be that that
Speaker 6: they got to the playoffs with like an eighth string center.
Speaker 6: So that's just something that you know, embrace that.
Speaker 2: And well, I guess part of me sour because I
Speaker 2: think Sala is part of it. Like the Jets should
Speaker 2: have absolutely traded for a quarterback weeks ago, but even today,
Speaker 2: and they are just going to continue to talk themselves
Speaker 2: into Zach Wilson and and that I believe will be
Speaker 2: their undoing this season.
Speaker 3: But that's just the way it goes.
Speaker 5: Cards breaking Jets news, but I do think it's it's
Speaker 5: worthy of mentioning and discussion. Two minutes ago, general manager
Speaker 5: Joe Douglas said at the podium talking about Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 5: potentially coming back this season, quote, We're expecting Aaron to
Speaker 5: be back.
Speaker 4: WHOA, it's pretty bold.
Speaker 6: Hello.
Speaker 2: Now, Now when he says that, they I hope there's
Speaker 2: a follow up, like is that regular season or postseason
Speaker 2: because that's the first time a Jets official everything had
Speaker 2: been coming out of the Rogers camp to this point,
Speaker 2: and by the way, Aaron Rodgers runs the Jets, so
Speaker 2: everything kind of filters through him anyway.
Speaker 3: But I'm just curious if they clarified that.
Speaker 5: I mean, the timeline if you think of when cam
Speaker 5: Acres returned, which was very quick and he was not
Speaker 5: the same kam Acres, but he did come back.
Speaker 4: I gotta check. I think it was maybe under five months.
Speaker 4: Suggs trell Suggs was about.
Speaker 5: Five months and an Acres, you know, played in that
Speaker 5: Super Bowl run and he you know, played really poorly,
Speaker 5: but he did play. Even that would put them like
Speaker 5: at the playoffs if it was like four and a
Speaker 5: half months.
Speaker 3: He tore it.
Speaker 2: I'll never forget it. It was September eleventh, that evening.
Speaker 2: So we're talking, it's the end of January.
Speaker 3: We're coming up. We're not even two months.
Speaker 5: Okay, So they did follow up and he just said
Speaker 5: he has no predictions, but you just did have a prediction.
Speaker 4: You said you expect him to be back. I guess
Speaker 4: that's an expectation.
Speaker 6: Maybe the general manager also needs to speak a little less.
Speaker 6: Why are we don't say.
Speaker 3: That he doesn't speak at all?
Speaker 2: Actually, like this is his one press conference he does
Speaker 2: now rap Sheet Douglas clarified that he meant quote with
Speaker 2: the team.
Speaker 3: He's leaving the rest up to the doctors.
Speaker 2: Okay, enough enough dogs, all right, let's uh that's a.
Speaker 6: Tough switch for Greg's media insider. Uh, run right there.
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm just reading off the most trusted insiders
Speaker 5: in the game.
Speaker 4: You know you want to take that's how you do
Speaker 4: your reporting.
Speaker 5: Yes, a rap sheet and Zach roseen Blat go after it.
Speaker 4: I trust, I trust Zach and the.
Speaker 3: And I think Mark it was important that you pointed
Speaker 3: that out. All right, let's talk Thursday.
Speaker 9: Night, Greg Rosenthal, Greg Greggy in the morning.
Speaker 6: The gong at the end.
Speaker 2: The gong well the Dolphin also is just elite all right,
Speaker 2: Thursday night football and that's it.
Speaker 3: That's the trade deadline.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got something. I was I wouldn't be a dud.
Speaker 4: We got we got stuff.
Speaker 3: B minus.
Speaker 2: How about the title for this podcast this B minus
Speaker 2: colon the twenty twenty three NFL trade deadline.
Speaker 6: It's very fair.
Speaker 5: They gave us Leonard Williams for that show yesterday too,
Speaker 5: Like I'm I'm happy with them. I'm happy with the
Speaker 5: football guys. I'm taking it B B.
Speaker 3: No, that's too much.
Speaker 2: That's an it's an eighty one out of one hundred.
Speaker 2: I mean, they broke that saved it from being you know,
Speaker 2: a gentleman z F maybe like we hated that.
Speaker 5: They also kept Jalen Johnson, by the way, that was
Speaker 5: a very short lived story, but one of the top
Speaker 5: ring quarterbacks in the league according to PFF, having a
Speaker 5: nice contract year. They let them seek a trade Jalen
Speaker 5: Johnson on Chicago, but they never found a deal out
Speaker 5: there and it did not happen.
Speaker 6: This league go seek your own trade thing. It seems
Speaker 6: like it takes a really long time, and it seems
Speaker 6: like they're not very good at it.
Speaker 2: Typically it seems like a bit of a trick. That's like,
Speaker 2: we're not gonna trade you, go find your own trade
Speaker 2: and then yeah we're doing that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, wait sixteen hours before go find that long term contract,
Speaker 5: like sending.
Speaker 2: Your dog into the backyard so you could go chase
Speaker 2: his own tail for a while.
Speaker 3: All right, missions accomplished.
Speaker 2: Let's head two. We'll get to Mike in a little bit.
Speaker 2: Week nine. Here we go.
Speaker 3: This is it.
Speaker 2: This is the true midpoint of the season. Four teams
Speaker 2: on by Broncos, Lions, Niners, Jaguars. It all starts Thursday
Speaker 2: night in Pittsburgh where the four and three Steelers.
Speaker 3: They know it.
Speaker 2: They know if Mark Sesler's twelve win prediction is to
Speaker 2: come true. They are running out of El's and they're
Speaker 2: coming off a tough home loss to the Jags, and
Speaker 2: now they get the Titans, a team that's winless on
Speaker 2: the road this year.
Speaker 3: Mark.
Speaker 2: However, Will Levis and I was tweeting a bit with
Speaker 2: our bud, the Grave Digger, Justin Graver, who was in
Speaker 2: Texas for the World Series with Fox right now, and
Speaker 2: I said, man, there's now real juice to your season,
Speaker 2: which I'm sure is great for his podcast and everything.
Speaker 2: He's gonna play again. Will Levis after throwing four touchdown passes.
Speaker 2: Ryan Tannehill is working his way back from that ankle,
Speaker 2: So you get Levis with a big tough assignment here
Speaker 2: on the road against the Pittsburgh Steelers. That's that's pretty nice.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think we're gaining, you know, evidence on who
Speaker 6: Will Levis is. Like the opening chapter of that was
Speaker 6: jaw dropping. I went and watched that game again today
Speaker 6: and it's like, you know, I don't think it's crazy
Speaker 6: to think that the Titans went from being you know,
Speaker 6: surefire sellers to like, hang on here. Everything suddenly changed
Speaker 6: in this game and it's gonna be that Falcons defense
Speaker 6: is not a joke. And what I loved while watching
Speaker 6: Will Levis and what I loved about the Titans coaching
Speaker 6: staff was like, let's just go let him unfurl some
Speaker 6: of the most insane passes we've seen this season. He
Speaker 6: played with total confidence. He's up at the line, you know,
Speaker 6: making adjustments and checks and it's like, you, I know,
Speaker 6: DeAndre Hopkins had some other good games this season two,
Speaker 6: but this offense was an eyesore and possible to watch.
Speaker 6: And suddenly he completely helps DeAndre Hopkins morph into what
Speaker 6: we always thought he could be, and like the connection
Speaker 6: right there. I mean there's a couple of throws where
Speaker 6: it's like the first touchdown where DeAndre Hopkins sort of
Speaker 6: dozey dozed with AJ Terrell. That was a little strange,
Speaker 6: But then you know, tears away and it's just like
Speaker 6: it's DeAndre Hopkins just ripped the ball to him and
Speaker 6: have trust that it's going to work out. This stuff
Speaker 6: was not happening with Tannehill, and I really like Tannehill
Speaker 6: over all as a career person, but like you could
Speaker 6: feel the energy change and everything changed, and it's like
Speaker 6: the way I saw this game, you know, ten days
Speaker 6: ago was like potential snooze fest, especially when you factor
Speaker 6: in the Steelers offense. But now it's like, yes, I'm
Speaker 6: gonna be watching this, Yes I know exactly who interests
Speaker 6: me the most, and this team has changed before our
Speaker 6: eyes in the last you know, eighty ninety hours.
Speaker 2: And yes, Derrick Henry also remains a member of the
Speaker 2: Tennessee Titans, with the trade deadline having passed.
Speaker 5: Good point in Nuke and I loved in the just
Speaker 5: in the first quarter of that game, like he was
Speaker 5: getting to his second reads. Even on a play where
Speaker 5: they didn't pick up the first down and they ended
Speaker 5: up punting it just like looked like.
Speaker 4: A pro play.
Speaker 5: There was a beautiful throat to trail at Burkes that
Speaker 5: the defender broke up at the last second. Burks, Yeah,
Speaker 5: struggles to get you know, it seems to struggle in general,
Speaker 5: I would say, but that was a play where DeAndre
Speaker 5: Hopkins was the primary receiver and you could see Levis
Speaker 5: look at him and Hopkins fell. And then Levis has
Speaker 5: this year where it's like, oh, okay, my primary receivers out,
Speaker 5: why do I go throw the ball fifty five yards
Speaker 5: down the field out a dime? And so I don't
Speaker 5: know how this can last. Like we'll see. It is
Speaker 5: just one game and we've been fooled before. But man,
Speaker 5: it was an intriguing first step. And it's a tough
Speaker 5: matchup in terms of the Steelers pass rush, we know that,
Speaker 5: but the Titans offensive line has been closer to average
Speaker 5: this year. It hasn't been the tire fire you saw.
Speaker 5: We'll Levis get protected pretty well actually on Sunday, and
Speaker 5: it's not a tough matchup throwing on these Steelers cornerbacks
Speaker 5: Pat Peterson getting cooked. Week after week he's benched. Sometimes
Speaker 5: he's not, other times Chandon Sullivan's there. They're out there
Speaker 5: and he's getting cooked quite a bit. Like they give
Speaker 5: up a lot of yards through the air. So it
Speaker 5: could be another fun Levis game.
Speaker 6: No Minka Fitzpatrick. That's huge, huge factor right there was.
Speaker 2: There was a point in the game, the Titans game,
Speaker 2: where it was either James Lofton or maybe j Feely
Speaker 2: piping in, piping in pypes.
Speaker 3: About Levis and he's doing this against a top ten defense.
Speaker 2: It's like, all right, first of all, let's seriously calm
Speaker 2: down about the Falcons, like talking them up, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know there's some type.
Speaker 3: Of elite defense.
Speaker 2: But even if there even if there is reasons to say, oh,
Speaker 2: there are things to exploit here putting him on the
Speaker 2: road in Pittsburgh in a primetime game. And that's one
Speaker 2: of the reasons TJ. Watt is in that conversation of
Speaker 2: the greatest defensive players in football is like that guy
Speaker 2: he will make an impact play in that game. I
Speaker 2: mean maybe two, maybe three. He raises his game, and
Speaker 2: like if Levis goes in there and shreds the Steelers,
Speaker 2: like we have a.
Speaker 3: Major development in the NFL to talk.
Speaker 2: About on Thursday night, or I should say you have
Speaker 2: to talk about Gregi with your guests to be named later.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm excited about and this. It's a good Steelers defense.
Speaker 5: I think they're ninth in DVA. That feels about right.
Speaker 5: Better against the pass, they're average against the run. So
Speaker 5: like to see Henry and Tajy Spears and the Steelers
Speaker 5: offense after one promising week against the Rams kind of
Speaker 5: went back to what they do. I actually that Picket
Speaker 5: played well before he got hurt, even though he didn't
Speaker 5: quite have the production. There were a few big time drops.
Speaker 5: He didn't make any bad decisions, some bad protection. But
Speaker 5: that's endemic of this offense that they're not playing well.
Speaker 5: And it does sound like we have Kenny Pickett, he
Speaker 5: spoke on Tuesday.
Speaker 4: Let's hear from him.
Speaker 3: It's frustrating.
Speaker 4: It's part of the game though, you know, I've been
Speaker 4: doing it for a little bit. It is what it is.
Speaker 4: You just got to be available and get ready to
Speaker 4: go on Thursday night.
Speaker 6: Kenny, is you playing Thursday? Conduce it to how you feel,
Speaker 6: or are their clearances you need from doctors or is
Speaker 6: it a bit of both, No, I'm playing for.
Speaker 2: Sure and what he you know, I think what he's
Speaker 2: answering initially there is he's been you know, banged up
Speaker 2: this year. It feels like every couple of shows we're
Speaker 2: talking about a Picket injury and wondering how serious it
Speaker 2: might be. So he's expressing frustration there, but he wants
Speaker 2: to be on the field, and quite frankly, I get
Speaker 2: it he hasn't played well enough to kind of secure
Speaker 2: himself as the QB one. He doesn't want Trubisky to
Speaker 2: go in there again in an Island game and have
Speaker 2: some success and then all of a sudden, Mike Tomlin's
Speaker 2: answering hard questions and having to make decisions. So Picket's like, no,
Speaker 2: keep me in the lineup when we get this thing
Speaker 2: figured out.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I think also like there's if I like this about
Speaker 6: Kenny Pickett is like you could question, like is this
Speaker 6: going to be a pattern la durability because there's been
Speaker 6: a number of different things. But he kind of fights
Speaker 6: to get back in there, and I think that resonates
Speaker 6: with a Steelers team that needs something some consistency on offense,
Speaker 6: like I want to see faster starts especially like in
Speaker 6: an Island game at home on a Thursday night. I
Speaker 6: don't love the matchup against Tennessee's defense. But last week
Speaker 6: against Jacksonville a good defense, Like first four drives went
Speaker 6: for nine yards, then they stall at the Jacksonville five,
Speaker 6: you know, squeeze out a field goal, and then they
Speaker 6: close the half by missing a field goal. It's like
Speaker 6: they're not well coached. We know that, not sexy. You
Speaker 6: kind have Deontae Johnson, like not helping your young quarterback
Speaker 6: out with a bunch of drops and other nonsense. So
Speaker 6: it's like, when do we get a complete game from
Speaker 6: this team, like once every four.
Speaker 5: Weeks, right, and let's stop banging our heads against the
Speaker 5: wall trying to run naj Ris or Jalen Warren for
Speaker 5: that matter. Titan second against the run according to dva
Speaker 5: UH and twenty fifth against the past. So it sets
Speaker 5: up as like a day you need some picket. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and you're right, you don't want Tribisky come in there.
Speaker 5: That's the MVP, the Nickelodeon most whatever you.
Speaker 3: Call it, I don't know. And what ev all right.
Speaker 4: You don't remember the MVP mark.
Speaker 5: It was a magical moment when the does he get
Speaker 5: slimmed or something. The fans around America could vote. I
Speaker 5: believe it was even a playoff game, and I believe
Speaker 5: they lost it. But the fans at home voted Trubisky
Speaker 5: MVP kind of as a joke, and you know, he won.
Speaker 4: They just had to give him the award, you know,
Speaker 4: the fan.
Speaker 6: I mean, whenever the entire you know, nation can band
Speaker 6: together for iranicle humor, that's unusual. So I can see
Speaker 6: value in that.
Speaker 2: Thank you for bringing it up because it brings back
Speaker 2: one of my favorite media stories in the history of
Speaker 2: the world and civilization is that People magazine had their
Speaker 2: have their annual fifty most Beautiful People. Addition, I don't
Speaker 2: know if that still exists and might who knows.
Speaker 3: It feels like something.
Speaker 6: Could have been white, We're all beautiful the various reasons.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like they that was a big deal.
Speaker 2: And then the person or as a sexiest people whatever
Speaker 2: it was. It was like, and then somebody would get
Speaker 2: the covers like the Sexiest Man Alive JFK Junior or whatever.
Speaker 2: So this particular year was about nineteen ninety five, they
Speaker 2: sent a photographer to the Kansas City Chiefs Training camp
Speaker 2: because it had been deemed that rich Gannon would be
Speaker 2: one of the most beautiful people for nineteen ninety five,
Speaker 2: and rich Gannon is a very attractive man.
Speaker 3: I believe it was. Let me just make sure I
Speaker 3: have this right.
Speaker 4: I got it.
Speaker 5: I gotta admit I never thought about it before. I mean,
Speaker 5: I guess a younger rich Gannon. I can't like argue
Speaker 5: with it, but it's a little surprising. It's a little
Speaker 5: surprising he was the MVP I suppose of the NFL.
Speaker 5: That's that's pretty good.
Speaker 3: Okay, So yes, it was rich Gannon.
Speaker 2: This is a story that was relayed by Jeff Pearlman,
Speaker 2: who was like connected in this world at some point. Anyway,
Speaker 2: it was the sexiest athlete of nineteen ninety eight. So
Speaker 2: they send the photographer to take a photo of rich
Speaker 2: Gannon a camp, but the photographer, through some type of
Speaker 2: mix up, asks like okay, I just got to get
Speaker 2: a quarterback photo or whatever, and instead they shoot Elvis Kerbach,
Speaker 2: who is a very nice man, it seems, but you
Speaker 2: could look it up. Elvis Kirback is kind of an
Speaker 2: every man, doesn't stand out as an overly handsome gentleman.
Speaker 3: And when they realized their era error, they they didn't
Speaker 3: go back. They said, we.
Speaker 2: Can't now, like tell Elvis we shot the wrong guy.
Speaker 2: So they just rolled with Elvis Kurbak as this the
Speaker 2: sexiest athlete of nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 3: And the photo of him is like him in the
Speaker 3: locker with.
Speaker 2: His leg up and a pair of like nineties blue
Speaker 2: jeans and like a big hairy barefoot and that is
Speaker 2: that is what I thought.
Speaker 5: Of when you that's incredible, that's a great that's a
Speaker 5: great story to end. I was gonna say end our
Speaker 5: week because it feels like this out of week's worth
Speaker 5: the shows. But now we'll just say goodbye for what
Speaker 5: forty eight hours here and we'll be back, but they're preview.
Speaker 2: We will and it is Halloween, and everybody, all the
Speaker 2: parents listening, you know, have a have a great time
Speaker 2: with the kids. I will be on the road with
Speaker 2: the children. And as a way of signing off for
Speaker 2: this very spooky edition of the NFL Trade Deadline around
Speaker 2: the NFL episode, Mike McDaniel has been a pop pular
Speaker 2: costume this year for that matching gray sweatsuit that he
Speaker 2: wears and a very distinct look with the hard part
Speaker 2: of his hair and the glasses and the headset. It's perfect,
Speaker 2: I would imagine, especially in the Miami Dade County era.
Speaker 2: So you're seeing that costume out there, including something went
Speaker 2: viral of a little child as Mike McDaniel perfect with
Speaker 2: the run after the halftime interview. If we have that,
Speaker 2: let it rip Eric behind the virtual glass with his
Speaker 2: team as well.
Speaker 3: Watch you look at this bad you even had the watch.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you notice that, like the job,
Speaker 3: I don't think.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's a fair point.
Speaker 3: They could be a rich kid, could be a rich kid.
Speaker 6: Daniel is not even sneaky fast.
Speaker 4: He just is fast. He's fast, He's quick.
Speaker 2: McDaniel, Oh all right, because in that run, yeah, he
Speaker 2: seemed that clar I mean, the kid is too.
Speaker 6: But like McDaniel has like.
Speaker 3: Well some real he was a college wide receiver.
Speaker 6: Yeah I know, but that wasn't yesterday. Like he's still
Speaker 6: he's maintained his speed. I don't feel like I am
Speaker 6: quite as fast as I was in college.
Speaker 2: You know, he probably doesn't maintain the speed, but he
Speaker 2: probably moves much better than a typical thirty six year
Speaker 2: old or whatever.
Speaker 6: Here's nothing special.
Speaker 2: Then well, here's McDaniel on being a popular costume this Halloween.
Speaker 1: I've seen a post on social media kid dressing up
Speaker 1: as Mike McDaniel.
Speaker 6: That does not compute, That doesn't make sense the video
Speaker 6: if you want to see.
Speaker 3: It, did your run football?
Speaker 4: When kid did the run and the fan last night?
Speaker 6: Wasn't that faster than the kid?
Speaker 8: Is?
Speaker 1: Curious?
Speaker 3: What goes into Mike McDaniel.
Speaker 2: I have no idea this is this is I refuse
Speaker 2: to accept that as reality.
Speaker 4: But I guess the knapsack would be es Central or
Speaker 4: what do you the glasses?
Speaker 2: The probably the essential would be the broad chest.
Speaker 3: Right, Oh my god, Oh that's you're doing. You're doing
Speaker 3: Mike McDaniel, Oh.
Speaker 2: My god, that is exactly mark how Greg would answer
Speaker 2: that question.
Speaker 6: The broad chest, Yes, absolutely, that the invisible.
Speaker 4: I do not accept that as an answer.
Speaker 3: We have to Eric behind the glass.
Speaker 2: We need to get Mike McDaniel on our show this offseason,
Speaker 2: any means necessary.
Speaker 4: Owners meetings. Let's go back, remember.
Speaker 3: All right, that's it.
Speaker 2: We'll be back on Thursday with the preview edition of
Speaker 2: Week nine and the draft and the Germany game, the
Speaker 2: first ever game from Frankfurt, Germany.
Speaker 3: How about that? And it's a.
Speaker 5: Dandy shout out to Jeremy Bergan by the way, feel
Speaker 5: better yes, thinking of you bro.
Speaker 3: Get well soon, see you back in the office. Hopefully
Speaker 3: heed the call.