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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, boys and ghouls, gather yourself around in

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Speaker 1: the flickering radio dial and be amazed by the terrifying

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Speaker 1: but true tales of the NFL trade deadline. Happy Halloween, now, oh.

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Speaker 2: My goodness, let's hope the Vincent Price estate doesn't come

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Speaker 2: for us.

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Speaker 3: If they do, we.

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Speaker 2: Will shift them head east to Zumwalt Manor in Connecticut.

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Speaker 2: Dan Hans is here, Heroes virtually, Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal.

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Speaker 3: It is indeed happy Halloween.

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Speaker 2: It is also the trade deadline in the NFL, and

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Speaker 2: we have a bunch to talk about what's going on.

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Speaker 4: Boys, get to be back with you.

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Speaker 5: I just feel bad for that, you know, kid at

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Speaker 5: the Halloween parade this morning wearing a Montees Sweat Commander's

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Speaker 5: jersey like just a big al right off.

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Speaker 3: The bat he tried to get in.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we are awesome mourning and I guess it is Halloween, so.

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Speaker 3: Mourning is part of the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: Death, the death of young and Sweaty, the Washington nickname

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Speaker 2: that really I thought had some traction Mark Sessler. There

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Speaker 2: was even some fans at the Commander's game on Thursday

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Speaker 2: night against the Bears that had posed for the photo

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Speaker 2: and sent it to us, and it's just one more

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Speaker 2: thing that disappears into dust as we all will.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know if it quite hit the potential

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Speaker 6: that we solve for it as a duo. And I

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Speaker 6: guess though, you'd have to look at it from another angle,

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Speaker 6: you know. Josh Harris come in saying the branding of

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Speaker 6: Young and Sweaty is too hot for this organization. We've

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Speaker 6: got to totally dissemble the concept and scatter both of

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Speaker 2: It's funny because I thought you were going to say

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Speaker 2: that the Washington commanders didn't believe that Montes Sweat and

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Speaker 2: Chase Young lived up to the potential of what they

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Speaker 2: could be, which is certainly probably a fair statement, Young

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Speaker 2: in particular, who came into the league as a potential

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Speaker 2: generational talent. But let's get into it. Let's start there,

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Speaker 2: because I think Washington's decision to not trade one but

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Speaker 2: both of their talented young edge rushers tells you a

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Speaker 2: little bit about where the commanders are right now and

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Speaker 2: where they're headed also is interesting. Let's start with Montes Sweat.

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Speaker 2: He goes to the Chicago Bears in exchange for a

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Speaker 2: second round pick. This is a move that the Bears

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Speaker 2: desperately need some more difference makers on that side of

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Speaker 2: the ball, so they come out of this with one

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Speaker 2: in Sweat, and then Chase Young he is on the

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Speaker 2: move to the San Francisco forty nine ers, who goes

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Speaker 2: for a third round compensation pick. So there is two

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Speaker 2: big trades, and the Niners, obviously a true Super Bowl contender,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd love to go through like all three teams

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Speaker 5: and how it impacts it, but I'm going to start

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Speaker 5: with the Bears because this was a curious trade, I

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Speaker 5: think to a lot of people, and I did find

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Speaker 5: it compelling interesting a two and six team trading for

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Speaker 5: a guy on the last year of his contract. In trading,

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Speaker 5: you know, a high quality pick. It's their second round pick,

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Speaker 5: so they're expecting that's going to be somewhere near the

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Speaker 5: top of the second round. It's very similar to the

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Speaker 5: Chase Claypool trade. And you know, for one, Monte Sweat

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Speaker 5: a much much better player than Chase Claypool. So that

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Speaker 5: should make Bears fans feel good. But I think it

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Speaker 5: was a recognition that not just like having a guy

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Speaker 5: locked up long term is valuable, but just control of

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Speaker 5: their contracts is valuable. And I like the move for

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Speaker 5: offseason that I looked at their entire roster and I said,

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Speaker 5: everyone's excited about DJ Moore. DJ Moore is a good player.

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Speaker 5: I thought DJ Moore might be the best player on

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Speaker 5: their entire roster. And that was one of the reasons

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Speaker 5: why I wanted to go under seven and a half.

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Speaker 5: I was like, if DJ Moore is the best player

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Speaker 5: on your entire roster, that's not going anywhere unless you

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Speaker 5: have a genius as a head coach, and they clearly don't.

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Speaker 5: Montes Sweat, to me is one of the most underrated

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Speaker 4: I've loved him.

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Speaker 5: Really strong, long, and incredible first step, like he's he's

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Speaker 4: But he's in the middle of his prime.

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Speaker 5: I would say he's a top fifteen to twenty at

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Speaker 5: Year after year, He's gotten better and better and Bears

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Speaker 4: It's like, no, you are going to have him long term.

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Speaker 5: You make this trade because you're ready to pay him

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Speaker 5: and you've got a boatload a cap space, and people say, well,

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Speaker 5: why not wait till he becomes a free agent, or

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Speaker 5: why not sign the top free agent defensive end. The

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Speaker 5: who's thirty three and was good at the time. I

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Speaker 5: the middle of their primes. Those guys just don't get

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Speaker 4: They did it. I actually I like the move for

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Speaker 4: Ryan Pouls and the Bears.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think to hinge it off of the fact

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Speaker 6: that they have control of the player and they'll get

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Speaker 6: get to know the player is absolutely right, because the

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Speaker 6: idea that Montez Sweat would have ever picked the Bears

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Speaker 6: in free agency is another unnecessary We don't know that

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Speaker 6: that's a fill in the blank. I mean, the only

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Speaker 6: Jonathan now and the player is like guaranteed, are almost

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Speaker 6: guaranteed to be as good as anything you get with

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Speaker 4: Pick in the draft.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so there's that sweat. Yeah, so they're like, why

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Speaker 6: don't know, there's there's so many defensive linemen that Washington

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Speaker 6: talked about moving that I'm like all over the place

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Speaker 6: with this, But I think with sweat, he automatically upgrades

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Speaker 6: a defense that desperately needed pass rush. At the same time,

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Speaker 6: this is a front office that has a lot of

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Speaker 6: like up and down maneuvers, like the Chase Claypool thing.

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Speaker 6: We all get it. You gave a second form a

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Speaker 6: year ago, sold them for nothing. You also like tore

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Speaker 6: down the defense and gave away Roquan Smith, And it's like, so,

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Speaker 6: I like that you're getting this player, but I find

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, I hear that, And until they start to

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Speaker 2: that's out of contention to make a big splash like

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Speaker 2: this because you do have to build. You got to

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Speaker 2: get some dogs in that building, like Greg, you're saying,

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Speaker 2: and this is a dog, and you have control over

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Speaker 2: him at least beyond you have the franchise tag gear.

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Speaker 2: So that makes sense, and I think I think it

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Speaker 2: makes sense for everyone because Washington had decided internally, I

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Speaker 2: think what the expectation was is that they were going

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Speaker 2: But they made a decision to go in a different

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Speaker 2: direction entirely for reasons that they don't have to share

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Speaker 2: with people. But obviously they're maybe not as high on

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Speaker 2: a sweat's upside here, and they get a top forty

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Speaker 2: be like the Chase Claypool pick, which was I believe

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Speaker 2: thirty six. I mean, this is a really high value pick,

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Speaker 2: and let's move to the Chase Young move because they

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Speaker 2: send him to the Niners for that third round pick,

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Speaker 2: and that is a move, Greg that the the Niners.

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Speaker 2: You know, try to set aside the three game losing streak,

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Speaker 2: but also maybe the timing. If you're you're gonna have

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Speaker 2: a three game losing streak, have it right before the deadline.

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Speaker 2: So it really gives you a more clear eyed view

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Speaker 2: you think you need to get better. So they go

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Speaker 2: and they do get better. And I remember talking before

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Speaker 2: the season started that maybe that defensive line wasn't what

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Speaker 2: it used to be under Salah and even Demico Ryans.

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Speaker 2: And now you add a guy that has, even though

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Speaker 2: he's never truly met his expectations as a superstar type talent,

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Speaker 2: he has that ability, especially playing across from Nick Bosa.

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Speaker 5: And next to Hargrave in Armstead and kin Law. And

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Speaker 5: you're right, no one really stepped up in that other spot.

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Speaker 5: They just signed Randy Gregory. He actually played okay in

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Speaker 5: a couple of games they had him, but he was

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Speaker 5: just a bit of an afterthought. They have Drake Jackson,

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Speaker 5: Cleveland Pharaoh, and for the price, it's like, why wouldn't you?

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Speaker 5: Why would I'm a little surprised he could only get

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Speaker 5: a compensatory third round pick.

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Speaker 4: This is a team.

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Speaker 5: In Washington, and we'll get to the Washington side of it,

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Speaker 5: because they must just decided we're trading him no matter what,

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Speaker 5: no matter what the offer is, because a high second

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Speaker 5: for sweat. Okay, that's one thing. I'm a little surprised.

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Speaker 5: You don't want to keep them. But maybe they look

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Speaker 5: at it like they have Deron Payn, they have Jonathan Allen.

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Speaker 5: They already paid those guys a lot of money's defensive line.

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Speaker 5: We don't want to put it all on the defense line. Okay,

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Speaker 5: you got a high second. What's the point of a

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Speaker 5: compensatory third. That's the one hundredth pick in the draft.

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Speaker 5: It's like, that's so low is it even worth it?

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Speaker 5: And I think opponents are going to be thinking, how

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Speaker 5: did how did we let the forty nine ers get

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Speaker 7: Because gm app right, right? Gm App Chase youngis just

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Speaker 7: not to interrupt at yeah, please the point I was

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Speaker 7: making there. It does kind of smell like there's maybe

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Speaker 7: more to it. But maybe the relationship or what they

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Speaker 7: you know, what they believe, or the upside or internally

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Speaker 7: what kind of player they think that the guy is,

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Speaker 7: what kind of.

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Speaker 2: Locker room presences. I think there seems to be more

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Speaker 2: to it to make this move now.

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Speaker 5: Sure is sure, but he's like only been there, Like

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Speaker 5: you're only going to have him for eight more games.

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Speaker 5: I think there had been questions about his you know,

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Speaker 5: approach to the game, and he's been extremely up and down.

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Speaker 5: He was the defensive Rookie of the year, good good

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Speaker 5: rookie season. Has been injured and disappointing when he's played

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Speaker 5: the last two years. But this year's top ten in

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Speaker 5: the league in pressures mark like, he's top twenty in PFFS,

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Speaker 5: you know, pass rust grade. He's incredibly productive. In one

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Speaker 5: more game, he will have more pressures this season than

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Speaker 5: even even had during his defensive Rookie of the Year season.

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Speaker 5: And I know he's like not as subtle and not

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Speaker 5: as complete as a guy like Joey Bosa or Nick Bosa,

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Speaker 5: but who cares. He's your number two pass thrusher and

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Speaker 5: he's been incredibly productive this year. He's like he's a

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Speaker 5: great case for like I'm in a contract year, my

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Speaker 5: career is in the balance. I'm gonna put it together

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Speaker 5: and have a much better season, and he has so far.

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Speaker 6: I think it's the Niners are a team that if

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Speaker 6: they only have him for nine games, that's the right

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Speaker 5: It's crazy. I bet he actually will make it to

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Speaker 6: I totally agree. I think Josh Harris is gonna be

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Speaker 4: But they traded James Harden last night. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 6: I think, if anything, like you have to look at

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Speaker 6: It was like he went out of his way to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's history.

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Speaker 5: He gone indeed, well unless he does the Ron Rivera

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Speaker 3: But you're also like what.

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Speaker 2: You're saying about the owner is so hot in the

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Speaker 3: We'll see.

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Speaker 2: They're obviously making moves, also making moves. The Vikings we

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Speaker 2: I think there's reporting out there that Hall, the fifth

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Speaker 3: I believe Atlanta, Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, and but Dobbs makes sense as a guy

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Speaker 2: once he gets, you know, a little more comfortable, can

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Speaker 6: I think if we've seen something about Josh Dobbs in

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Speaker 6: It was not spectacular, It's just Josh Dobbs. Same thing

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Speaker 5: It's uncreative, is what it is. He's literally the guy

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Speaker 5: It's happened three times in a row. I mean it

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Speaker 5: I think he was like a longtime fan. He sees

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Speaker 5: the playoffs. So they did what I was asking Dan,

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Speaker 4: That was sort of my point was, well, that was

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Speaker 3: Was asking too, right, go get somebody.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but because you're kind of internally in mourning, don't

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Speaker 2: I think the sensible move. You give up a Day

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Speaker 2: if he if he ends up playing, and you just

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Speaker 3: Now, could Dobbs.

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Speaker 2: Get hot and with a good supporting cast and Justin

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Speaker 3: Door of the playoffs. Sure? It's a weird conference. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think kind of everybody wins.

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Speaker 4: Here are they there right now? I'm gonna go look, but.

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Speaker 3: They gotta be They gotta be a five hundred day.

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Speaker 4: They are the seventh seed because they have the tie

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Speaker 5: You know behind them is the other losing South teams

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Speaker 4: I mean, they have a real shot. And Kevin O'Connell

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Speaker 5: Actually, he talked today about that he would plan to

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Speaker 8: Know he's excited to get going here. So we'll get

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Speaker 4: M left it open a little bit. By the way,

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Speaker 4: did you happen to check out my Twitter account last night?

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Speaker 3: Probably? Not Dan, your Twitter? Your personal Twitter account?

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Speaker 4: Well, just like yeah, it might seek.

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Speaker 3: Tweet at you. Yeah, but I didn't like kind of.

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Speaker 5: On top of it, you know, when I saw this news,

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Speaker 9: Heat, Oh, Greg Rosenthal, Greg Gregg in the morning, can

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Speaker 9: I just ask a question on Dan's behalf?

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Speaker 6: Does an insider put out information with a question mark

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Speaker 4: Hey, you just sometimes you can't like burn your source.

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Speaker 3: There's so many things wrong about what just happened.

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Speaker 4: I think they're right. I think they're right, and I

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Speaker 2: get off my corner because you're not even in my town.

438
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Speaker 2: But keep keep working at it. You got a triple

439
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Speaker 2: source for starters.

440
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Speaker 3: Mark's right.

441
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,240
Speaker 2: You never ever use a question mark and you're reporting,

442
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,640
Speaker 2: you don't make it something that's up for interpretation. Give

443
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,400
Speaker 2: the people the info they need, Like when I when

444
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 2: I had that expose on the on the breakdown of

445
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:26,840
Speaker 2: the relationship between Ian Rappaport and Tom Pellisero on the

446
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,879
Speaker 2: Insiders internal war going on, that was that came from

447
00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 2: digging and then getting like real answers from a third

448
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:36,959
Speaker 2: party that's boots on the ground.

449
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Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's what it's.

450
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Speaker 5: I mean, you gotta admit, GREGI in the Morning has

451
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:52,560
Speaker 5: just a certain ring to it.

452
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean maybe Greggy on overnights, maybe we'll be

453
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Speaker 3: open to that.

454
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Speaker 2: I don't like this development, Reggie on the Graveyard shift, Mark,

455
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 2: how about your theme?

456
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 6: Oh, I'll be preparing one for our next show. I'm sure.

457
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Speaker 5: I mean you can imagine the hours and hours of

458
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 5: production that went into the.

459
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Speaker 2: Well that I always yeah that I respect rank the

460
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Speaker 2: fact that you worked on that behind the scenes.

461
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Speaker 3: That you definitely have my respect for that.

462
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 2: And also you're again wearing the Jerry from Succession T

463
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Speaker 2: shirt that.

464
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:27,160
Speaker 5: Also you you little slim puppy.

465
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Speaker 2: That also checks boxes for me. Let's take a break

466
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Speaker 2: and then finish the news and TNF preview. All right,

467
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,920
Speaker 2: some more trades. Yes, the trade deadline about twenty five

468
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 2: minutes ago came and went.

469
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Speaker 3: And while we don't have.

470
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Speaker 2: You know, a quarterback or you know, a high profile

471
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 2: wide receiver, port Devonte Adams is still stuck in the desert,

472
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Speaker 2: there are players on the move, like cornerback Rozuell Douglas

473
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Speaker 2: who is traded from the fading Packers to the Bills.

474
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 2: So a third round pick goes to Green Bay and

475
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 2: a fifth round pick pick goes back to the Packers,

476
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 2: and that adds some depth for the Bills who could

477
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Speaker 2: use that as well.

478
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Speaker 5: It's really been notable the last few weeks when Kyrie Elam,

479
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 5: their first round pick from a year ago, is a

480
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,680
Speaker 5: healthy scratch, Like they can't even get him on the field.

481
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 5: He was their first round pick and he lost to

482
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Speaker 5: Davious White for the season. And you have this kid

483
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,640
Speaker 5: Benford who was taken i think in the sixth round

484
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,919
Speaker 5: of that same draft, who's actually played pretty well, but

485
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 5: that's it. Like they gave Toron Johnson, who's their slot corner,

486
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Speaker 5: a lot of money and he's to my you know,

487
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 5: amateur sizes is been getting cooked every week and then

488
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Speaker 5: the other side they really don't have anyone. So Ruzull

489
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Speaker 5: Douglas was one of those Packers that was getting increasingly

490
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Speaker 5: frustrated in press conference settings of just like what a

491
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Speaker 5: mess this is, and maybe that the offense was a

492
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Speaker 5: little bit of a mess, and they're like, Okay, let's

493
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Speaker 5: get this guy out of here.

494
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Speaker 6: A culture fit, I guess yeah, I mean he no,

495
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Speaker 6: but you're right because he was like openly speaking about

496
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 6: not being a culture fit, I think, and so he

497
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 6: gets his wish. But I feel like every time we'd

498
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Speaker 6: watch like primetime Packers games last couple of years, like

499
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,120
Speaker 6: Roswell Douglas is making a huge play. He's got ten

500
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 6: picks over the last couple of seasons, two pick six's

501
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 6: to the clinch games. He kind of is a really

502
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 6: interesting fit for the Bills. They needed him. There is though,

503
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,159
Speaker 6: an interesting video out there that I just saw seconds

504
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 6: before we did the show where Josh Allen, you know

505
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 6: they're playing the Packers, gets into it with Rozuwell Douglas

506
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 6: and basically says you suck, And so there's gonna you know,

507
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 6: he's gotta have to go fit that culture now they've

508
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 6: got to work on that.

509
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Speaker 2: You'll have been deemed a culture misfit. Here's an interesting trade.

510
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:49,360
Speaker 2: The Browns. They say goodbye to Donovan People's Jones, who had,

511
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 2: by the way, this surprised me, nearly nine hundred yards

512
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:57,120
Speaker 2: receiving last year for Cleveland, but in the Deshaun Watson

513
00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 2: era now had not really found role or much production.

514
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 2: But he goes to the Lions and the line sent

515
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 2: back a sixth round pick. So on the surface, it's like,

516
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,640
Speaker 2: you know, Donovan People's Jones, you know he's a guy,

517
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 2: and you get that back a Day three pick, and

518
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 2: like that's whatever. But we just happened to watch the

519
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 2: Lions and we just heard some boo birds out for

520
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 2: Jamison Williams and the former first round pick Mark has

521
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 2: not clicked. He's had a suspension for gambling, he's had

522
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 2: that knee, he had the knee injury, and you just

523
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 2: wonder if this kind of says something about Detroit's patience

524
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 2: with a player they invested so much in just last spring.

525
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Speaker 6: I think it's a combination of that development. Marvin Jones,

526
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:47,360
Speaker 6: who was one of their bigger wideouts, walked away from

527
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 6: football for for a period of time he's not. They

528
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 6: don't have him on the roster. So Donovan People's Jones,

529
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,120
Speaker 6: he's sort of been such a hot and cold producer.

530
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Speaker 6: Like you said, he had almost nine hundred yards a

531
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Speaker 6: year ago. This year, like, I think he seems to

532
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 6: like it's funny because Ben Johnson, the Lions o C

533
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 6: called him like a high quality player and like a

534
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 6: good teammate, and so he must have some relationship with him.

535
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 6: But on the the Browns coaching staff seem to like

536
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 6: go real hot and cold with him. He had ninety

537
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Speaker 6: seven yards on eight catches this season when they could

538
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 6: use a wide out help. In general, that's off of

539
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 6: two hundred and five routes. So I think there's part

540
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Speaker 6: of like not working with Deshaun Watson, not working with

541
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 6: the other quarterback chaos they have there. So it's a

542
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 6: better landing spot.

543
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Speaker 3: You know.

544
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Speaker 6: He's I think he's a guy. He's just sort of

545
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 6: like your third, your third or fourth guy.

546
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Speaker 2: Right, But James and Willison Williams, I guess I want

547
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 2: to see it'll be he'll be an interesting guy. Track

548
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 2: his snaps as People's Jones gets ramped up with that team. Uh, finally, finally,

549
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 2: little AFC South guard talk. Ezra Cleveland, the guard comes

550
00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 2: over from the Vikings in exchange for a day pick,

551
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 2: and I man, I wish we could go out on

552
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 2: something a little stronger than that. But listen, having you

553
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 2: know players that you can add as depth pieces or

554
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 2: potential starters on your internal line surrounding the pivot that

555
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 2: matters in pro football.

556
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Speaker 5: He's one of those guys that, like they were always

557
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 5: threatening to you know, maybe bench or people who watched

558
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 5: the games didn't love him, but then PFF would have

559
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 5: him super high, Like he's always ranked in the top

560
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 5: twenty of PFF. So the Jaguars, big, big PFF fans,

561
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 5: they had just signed Dalton Riser so they could get

562
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 5: rid of him. I was almost surprised that Jets didn't

563
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 5: make a move like this, maybe because Cleveland's, if nothing else,

564
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 5: he's played a lot and he's he's young. There was

565
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 5: also a report, by the way, the Jaguars and the

566
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 5: Patriots were talking, I think this was from Albert Breer.

567
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 5: We're talking Josh Uce but they disagreed over either fourth

568
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 5: or fifth round pick compensation, and so it just didn't happen.

569
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 5: So yeah, that point, just give them the give them

570
00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 5: the fourth or give him away.

571
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 4: What I'm doing here, I don't know, just what's your

572
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 4: that close? Just do it? What does it matter?

573
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 6: They were like they were targeted as like a pretty

574
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 6: solid bet to go get, you know, defense help on

575
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 6: the defensive front. So I'm with you, like, what is

576
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 6: the difference between those two picks. This helps their offensive line.

577
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 6: They've had some injuries and they've been banged up a

578
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 6: little bit. But you know, Cleveland plays guard, he plays tackle.

579
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 6: He's been a better run blocker than pass blocker, except

580
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 6: this has been his best year pass blocking. So and

581
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 6: that's of course according to pff I. I'm not saying

582
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 6: that that's me breaking down his run and pass blocking snaps,

583
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 6: but helps them out.

584
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 2: The Jets lost their starter and backup center to the

585
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 2: ir in consecutive quarters this week, and I don't you know,

586
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 2: in general, like even though it's been a positive season,

587
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 2: the jury for me is out on Robert Sala and

588
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 2: what certain elements of the way he approaches things and

589
00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,040
Speaker 2: his game management and even the way some of the

590
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 2: things he says to the media, like they asked him

591
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 2: about as you would think, like, hey, you guys gonna

592
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 2: try to make a trade to get some help on

593
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 2: the interior line, and he just like dismissed it out

594
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 2: of hand, like, hey, if there were any good players

595
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 2: out there, we would we would try to get him.

596
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 2: But there's no you know, there's no teams that are

597
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 2: going to be trading you know, good offensive lineman. This

598
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 2: time of year, it's like Rob, we don't always have

599
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 2: to talk so much, Like let's let's let trader Joe

600
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 2: see if he could find like an Ezra Cleveland. Now

601
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 2: maybe they didn't like Ezra Cleveland internally, but like sometimes

602
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,719
Speaker 2: I just wish Rob would like kind of pipe down

603
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 2: a little bit, separate the conversation.

604
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 4: Part of being a New York coach.

605
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 5: Although I like that, I don't think he tries too

606
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 5: hard to like be something he's not.

607
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 4: Sometimes he tries hard, you know.

608
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 5: It's like when he's he say like if they hate

609
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 5: and you're not popping, I mean.

610
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 4: That you know that that's trying hard. But that's just

611
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 4: who he is.

612
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 5: I think, so at least at least I think you

613
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 5: get in trouble, especially in New York, but anywhere where

614
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 5: you're trying to be like like trying to be a

615
00:29:58,240 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 5: tough guy when you're not a tough guy. I think

616
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 5: he is is who he is. I respect that at.

617
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 3: Least I liked I liked him.

618
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 2: You know, he puffed out his chest after the Eagles

619
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Speaker 2: game and said, We've faced all these great quarterbacks and

620
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 2: we embarrassed them all. And it's like, well, Dak Prescott

621
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 2: carved you up in Week two. I guess we're just

622
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 2: not counting certain quarters, just like sometimes I think he

623
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 2: gets a little carried away.

624
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 6: Yes, but Dan Way, it'll note like this Jets magic

625
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 6: carpet ride that I keep trying to sell you on

626
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 6: one of the great like when they, you know, create

627
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 6: that three or four hour, eight part documentary about this

628
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 6: Jets team, one of the features will be that that

629
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 6: they got to the playoffs with like an eighth string center.

630
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 6: So that's just something that you know, embrace that.

631
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Speaker 2: And well, I guess part of me sour because I

632
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 2: think Sala is part of it. Like the Jets should

633
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 2: have absolutely traded for a quarterback weeks ago, but even today,

634
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 2: and they are just going to continue to talk themselves

635
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 2: into Zach Wilson and and that I believe will be

636
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 2: their undoing this season.

637
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 3: But that's just the way it goes.

638
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 5: Cards breaking Jets news, but I do think it's it's

639
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 5: worthy of mentioning and discussion. Two minutes ago, general manager

640
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 5: Joe Douglas said at the podium talking about Aaron Rodgers

641
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 5: potentially coming back this season, quote, We're expecting Aaron to

642
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 5: be back.

643
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 4: WHOA, it's pretty bold.

644
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 6: Hello.

645
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 2: Now, Now when he says that, they I hope there's

646
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 2: a follow up, like is that regular season or postseason

647
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,959
Speaker 2: because that's the first time a Jets official everything had

648
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 2: been coming out of the Rogers camp to this point,

649
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 2: and by the way, Aaron Rodgers runs the Jets, so

650
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 2: everything kind of filters through him anyway.

651
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 3: But I'm just curious if they clarified that.

652
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 5: I mean, the timeline if you think of when cam

653
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 5: Acres returned, which was very quick and he was not

654
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 5: the same kam Acres, but he did come back.

655
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Speaker 4: I gotta check. I think it was maybe under five months.

656
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Speaker 4: Suggs trell Suggs was about.

657
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Speaker 5: Five months and an Acres, you know, played in that

658
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 5: Super Bowl run and he you know, played really poorly,

659
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 5: but he did play. Even that would put them like

660
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 5: at the playoffs if it was like four and a

661
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 5: half months.

662
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 3: He tore it.

663
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 2: I'll never forget it. It was September eleventh, that evening.

664
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 2: So we're talking, it's the end of January.

665
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 3: We're coming up. We're not even two months.

666
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Speaker 5: Okay, So they did follow up and he just said

667
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 5: he has no predictions, but you just did have a prediction.

668
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 4: You said you expect him to be back. I guess

669
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 4: that's an expectation.

670
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 6: Maybe the general manager also needs to speak a little less.

671
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 6: Why are we don't say.

672
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 3: That he doesn't speak at all?

673
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 2: Actually, like this is his one press conference he does

674
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 2: now rap Sheet Douglas clarified that he meant quote with

675
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 2: the team.

676
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 3: He's leaving the rest up to the doctors.

677
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 2: Okay, enough enough dogs, all right, let's uh that's a.

678
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 6: Tough switch for Greg's media insider. Uh, run right there.

679
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm just reading off the most trusted insiders

680
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 5: in the game.

681
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 4: You know you want to take that's how you do

682
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 4: your reporting.

683
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 5: Yes, a rap sheet and Zach roseen Blat go after it.

684
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 4: I trust, I trust Zach and the.

685
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 3: And I think Mark it was important that you pointed

686
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 3: that out. All right, let's talk Thursday.

687
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 9: Night, Greg Rosenthal, Greg Greggy in the morning.

688
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 6: The gong at the end.

689
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 2: The gong well the Dolphin also is just elite all right,

690
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 2: Thursday night football and that's it.

691
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 3: That's the trade deadline.

692
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got something. I was I wouldn't be a dud.

693
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 4: We got we got stuff.

694
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 3: B minus.

695
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 2: How about the title for this podcast this B minus

696
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 2: colon the twenty twenty three NFL trade deadline.

697
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 6: It's very fair.

698
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 5: They gave us Leonard Williams for that show yesterday too,

699
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 5: Like I'm I'm happy with them. I'm happy with the

700
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 5: football guys. I'm taking it B B.

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00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 3: No, that's too much.

702
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 2: That's an it's an eighty one out of one hundred.

703
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 2: I mean, they broke that saved it from being you know,

704
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 2: a gentleman z F maybe like we hated that.

705
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 5: They also kept Jalen Johnson, by the way, that was

706
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 5: a very short lived story, but one of the top

707
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 5: ring quarterbacks in the league according to PFF, having a

708
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 5: nice contract year. They let them seek a trade Jalen

709
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 5: Johnson on Chicago, but they never found a deal out

710
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 5: there and it did not happen.

711
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 6: This league go seek your own trade thing. It seems

712
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 6: like it takes a really long time, and it seems

713
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 6: like they're not very good at it.

714
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 2: Typically it seems like a bit of a trick. That's like,

715
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 2: we're not gonna trade you, go find your own trade

716
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 2: and then yeah we're doing that.

717
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, wait sixteen hours before go find that long term contract,

718
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 5: like sending.

719
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,479
Speaker 2: Your dog into the backyard so you could go chase

720
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 2: his own tail for a while.

721
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 3: All right, missions accomplished.

722
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 2: Let's head two. We'll get to Mike in a little bit.

723
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 2: Week nine. Here we go.

724
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 3: This is it.

725
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 2: This is the true midpoint of the season. Four teams

726
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 2: on by Broncos, Lions, Niners, Jaguars. It all starts Thursday

727
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 2: night in Pittsburgh where the four and three Steelers.

728
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 3: They know it.

729
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 2: They know if Mark Sesler's twelve win prediction is to

730
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 2: come true. They are running out of El's and they're

731
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 2: coming off a tough home loss to the Jags, and

732
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Speaker 2: now they get the Titans, a team that's winless on

733
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 2: the road this year.

734
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:10,479
Speaker 3: Mark.

735
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 2: However, Will Levis and I was tweeting a bit with

736
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 2: our bud, the Grave Digger, Justin Graver, who was in

737
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 2: Texas for the World Series with Fox right now, and

738
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 2: I said, man, there's now real juice to your season,

739
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 2: which I'm sure is great for his podcast and everything.

740
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,760
Speaker 2: He's gonna play again. Will Levis after throwing four touchdown passes.

741
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 2: Ryan Tannehill is working his way back from that ankle,

742
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 2: So you get Levis with a big tough assignment here

743
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 2: on the road against the Pittsburgh Steelers. That's that's pretty nice.

744
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think we're gaining, you know, evidence on who

745
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 6: Will Levis is. Like the opening chapter of that was

746
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 6: jaw dropping. I went and watched that game again today

747
00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 6: and it's like, you know, I don't think it's crazy

748
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 6: to think that the Titans went from being you know,

749
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 6: surefire sellers to like, hang on here. Everything suddenly changed

750
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 6: in this game and it's gonna be that Falcons defense

751
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 6: is not a joke. And what I loved while watching

752
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 6: Will Levis and what I loved about the Titans coaching

753
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 6: staff was like, let's just go let him unfurl some

754
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 6: of the most insane passes we've seen this season. He

755
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 6: played with total confidence. He's up at the line, you know,

756
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 6: making adjustments and checks and it's like, you, I know,

757
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 6: DeAndre Hopkins had some other good games this season two,

758
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 6: but this offense was an eyesore and possible to watch.

759
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 6: And suddenly he completely helps DeAndre Hopkins morph into what

760
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 6: we always thought he could be, and like the connection

761
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 6: right there. I mean there's a couple of throws where

762
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 6: it's like the first touchdown where DeAndre Hopkins sort of

763
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 6: dozey dozed with AJ Terrell. That was a little strange,

764
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 6: But then you know, tears away and it's just like

765
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 6: it's DeAndre Hopkins just ripped the ball to him and

766
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,720
Speaker 6: have trust that it's going to work out. This stuff

767
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 6: was not happening with Tannehill, and I really like Tannehill

768
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,919
Speaker 6: over all as a career person, but like you could

769
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 6: feel the energy change and everything changed, and it's like

770
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 6: the way I saw this game, you know, ten days

771
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,720
Speaker 6: ago was like potential snooze fest, especially when you factor

772
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 6: in the Steelers offense. But now it's like, yes, I'm

773
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,280
Speaker 6: gonna be watching this, Yes I know exactly who interests

774
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 6: me the most, and this team has changed before our

775
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 6: eyes in the last you know, eighty ninety hours.

776
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 2: And yes, Derrick Henry also remains a member of the

777
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 2: Tennessee Titans, with the trade deadline having passed.

778
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 5: Good point in Nuke and I loved in the just

779
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 5: in the first quarter of that game, like he was

780
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 5: getting to his second reads. Even on a play where

781
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 5: they didn't pick up the first down and they ended

782
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 5: up punting it just like looked like.

783
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 4: A pro play.

784
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 5: There was a beautiful throat to trail at Burkes that

785
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 5: the defender broke up at the last second. Burks, Yeah,

786
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 5: struggles to get you know, it seems to struggle in general,

787
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 5: I would say, but that was a play where DeAndre

788
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 5: Hopkins was the primary receiver and you could see Levis

789
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 5: look at him and Hopkins fell. And then Levis has

790
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,919
Speaker 5: this year where it's like, oh, okay, my primary receivers out,

791
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,720
Speaker 5: why do I go throw the ball fifty five yards

792
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,439
Speaker 5: down the field out a dime? And so I don't

793
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 5: know how this can last. Like we'll see. It is

794
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 5: just one game and we've been fooled before. But man,

795
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 5: it was an intriguing first step. And it's a tough

796
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 5: matchup in terms of the Steelers pass rush, we know that,

797
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 5: but the Titans offensive line has been closer to average

798
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 5: this year. It hasn't been the tire fire you saw.

799
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 5: We'll Levis get protected pretty well actually on Sunday, and

800
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 5: it's not a tough matchup throwing on these Steelers cornerbacks

801
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 5: Pat Peterson getting cooked. Week after week he's benched. Sometimes

802
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 5: he's not, other times Chandon Sullivan's there. They're out there

803
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 5: and he's getting cooked quite a bit. Like they give

804
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 5: up a lot of yards through the air. So it

805
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:46,439
Speaker 5: could be another fun Levis game.

806
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 6: No Minka Fitzpatrick. That's huge, huge factor right there was.

807
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 2: There was a point in the game, the Titans game,

808
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 2: where it was either James Lofton or maybe j Feely

809
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 2: piping in, piping in pypes.

810
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 3: About Levis and he's doing this against a top ten defense.

811
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 2: It's like, all right, first of all, let's seriously calm

812
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 2: down about the Falcons, like talking them up, like, yeah,

813
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 2: you know there's some type.

814
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 3: Of elite defense.

815
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 2: But even if there even if there is reasons to say, oh,

816
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 2: there are things to exploit here putting him on the

817
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 2: road in Pittsburgh in a primetime game. And that's one

818
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 2: of the reasons TJ. Watt is in that conversation of

819
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 2: the greatest defensive players in football is like that guy

820
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 2: he will make an impact play in that game. I

821
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 2: mean maybe two, maybe three. He raises his game, and

822
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 2: like if Levis goes in there and shreds the Steelers,

823
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 2: like we have a.

824
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 3: Major development in the NFL to talk.

825
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 2: About on Thursday night, or I should say you have

826
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 2: to talk about Gregi with your guests to be named later.

827
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm excited about and this. It's a good Steelers defense.

828
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 5: I think they're ninth in DVA. That feels about right.

829
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 5: Better against the pass, they're average against the run. So

830
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 5: like to see Henry and Tajy Spears and the Steelers

831
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 5: offense after one promising week against the Rams kind of

832
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 5: went back to what they do. I actually that Picket

833
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 5: played well before he got hurt, even though he didn't

834
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 5: quite have the production. There were a few big time drops.

835
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 5: He didn't make any bad decisions, some bad protection. But

836
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 5: that's endemic of this offense that they're not playing well.

837
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 5: And it does sound like we have Kenny Pickett, he

838
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 5: spoke on Tuesday.

839
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 4: Let's hear from him.

840
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 3: It's frustrating.

841
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 4: It's part of the game though, you know, I've been

842
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 4: doing it for a little bit. It is what it is.

843
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 4: You just got to be available and get ready to

844
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 4: go on Thursday night.

845
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,439
Speaker 6: Kenny, is you playing Thursday? Conduce it to how you feel,

846
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 6: or are their clearances you need from doctors or is

847
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 6: it a bit of both, No, I'm playing for.

848
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 2: Sure and what he you know, I think what he's

849
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 2: answering initially there is he's been you know, banged up

850
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 2: this year. It feels like every couple of shows we're

851
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 2: talking about a Picket injury and wondering how serious it

852
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 2: might be. So he's expressing frustration there, but he wants

853
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 2: to be on the field, and quite frankly, I get

854
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 2: it he hasn't played well enough to kind of secure

855
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 2: himself as the QB one. He doesn't want Trubisky to

856
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 2: go in there again in an Island game and have

857
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 2: some success and then all of a sudden, Mike Tomlin's

858
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 2: answering hard questions and having to make decisions. So Picket's like, no,

859
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 2: keep me in the lineup when we get this thing

860
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:18,919
Speaker 2: figured out.

861
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 4: Yeah.

862
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,959
Speaker 6: I think also like there's if I like this about

863
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 6: Kenny Pickett is like you could question, like is this

864
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 6: going to be a pattern la durability because there's been

865
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 6: a number of different things. But he kind of fights

866
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 6: to get back in there, and I think that resonates

867
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 6: with a Steelers team that needs something some consistency on offense,

868
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 6: like I want to see faster starts especially like in

869
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 6: an Island game at home on a Thursday night. I

870
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 6: don't love the matchup against Tennessee's defense. But last week

871
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 6: against Jacksonville a good defense, Like first four drives went

872
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 6: for nine yards, then they stall at the Jacksonville five,

873
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 6: you know, squeeze out a field goal, and then they

874
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 6: close the half by missing a field goal. It's like

875
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 6: they're not well coached. We know that, not sexy. You

876
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 6: kind have Deontae Johnson, like not helping your young quarterback

877
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 6: out with a bunch of drops and other nonsense. So

878
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 6: it's like, when do we get a complete game from

879
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 6: this team, like once every four.

880
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 5: Weeks, right, and let's stop banging our heads against the

881
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 5: wall trying to run naj Ris or Jalen Warren for

882
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 5: that matter. Titan second against the run according to dva

883
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 5: UH and twenty fifth against the past. So it sets

884
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 5: up as like a day you need some picket. Yeah,

885
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 5: and you're right, you don't want Tribisky come in there.

886
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 5: That's the MVP, the Nickelodeon most whatever you.

887
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 3: Call it, I don't know. And what ev all right.

888
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 4: You don't remember the MVP mark.

889
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 5: It was a magical moment when the does he get

890
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 5: slimmed or something. The fans around America could vote. I

891
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 5: believe it was even a playoff game, and I believe

892
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 5: they lost it. But the fans at home voted Trubisky

893
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 5: MVP kind of as a joke, and you know, he won.

894
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 4: They just had to give him the award, you know,

895
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 4: the fan.

896
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 6: I mean, whenever the entire you know, nation can band

897
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,439
Speaker 6: together for iranicle humor, that's unusual. So I can see

898
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 6: value in that.

899
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,479
Speaker 2: Thank you for bringing it up because it brings back

900
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 2: one of my favorite media stories in the history of

901
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 2: the world and civilization is that People magazine had their

902
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 2: have their annual fifty most Beautiful People. Addition, I don't

903
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 2: know if that still exists and might who knows.

904
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 3: It feels like something.

905
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 6: Could have been white, We're all beautiful the various reasons.

906
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like they that was a big deal.

907
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 2: And then the person or as a sexiest people whatever

908
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 2: it was. It was like, and then somebody would get

909
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 2: the covers like the Sexiest Man Alive JFK Junior or whatever.

910
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 2: So this particular year was about nineteen ninety five, they

911
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 2: sent a photographer to the Kansas City Chiefs Training camp

912
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 2: because it had been deemed that rich Gannon would be

913
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 2: one of the most beautiful people for nineteen ninety five,

914
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 2: and rich Gannon is a very attractive man.

915
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 3: I believe it was. Let me just make sure I

916
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:06,879
Speaker 3: have this right.

917
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 4: I got it.

918
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 5: I gotta admit I never thought about it before. I mean,

919
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,280
Speaker 5: I guess a younger rich Gannon. I can't like argue

920
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 5: with it, but it's a little surprising. It's a little

921
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 5: surprising he was the MVP I suppose of the NFL.

922
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 5: That's that's pretty good.

923
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:24,320
Speaker 3: Okay, So yes, it was rich Gannon.

924
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 2: This is a story that was relayed by Jeff Pearlman,

925
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 2: who was like connected in this world at some point. Anyway,

926
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 2: it was the sexiest athlete of nineteen ninety eight. So

927
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 2: they send the photographer to take a photo of rich

928
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 2: Gannon a camp, but the photographer, through some type of

929
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 2: mix up, asks like okay, I just got to get

930
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 2: a quarterback photo or whatever, and instead they shoot Elvis Kerbach,

931
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 2: who is a very nice man, it seems, but you

932
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 2: could look it up. Elvis Kirback is kind of an

933
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 2: every man, doesn't stand out as an overly handsome gentleman.

934
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 3: And when they realized their era error, they they didn't

935
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 3: go back. They said, we.

936
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 2: Can't now, like tell Elvis we shot the wrong guy.

937
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 2: So they just rolled with Elvis Kurbak as this the

938
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 2: sexiest athlete of nineteen ninety eight.

939
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 3: And the photo of him is like him in the

940
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:13,879
Speaker 3: locker with.

941
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 2: His leg up and a pair of like nineties blue

942
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 2: jeans and like a big hairy barefoot and that is

943
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 2: that is what I thought.

944
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 5: Of when you that's incredible, that's a great that's a

945
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 5: great story to end. I was gonna say end our

946
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 5: week because it feels like this out of week's worth

947
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 5: the shows. But now we'll just say goodbye for what

948
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,280
Speaker 5: forty eight hours here and we'll be back, but they're preview.

949
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 2: We will and it is Halloween, and everybody, all the

950
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 2: parents listening, you know, have a have a great time

951
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 2: with the kids. I will be on the road with

952
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 2: the children. And as a way of signing off for

953
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 2: this very spooky edition of the NFL Trade Deadline around

954
00:45:55,520 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 2: the NFL episode, Mike McDaniel has been a pop pular

955
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 2: costume this year for that matching gray sweatsuit that he

956
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 2: wears and a very distinct look with the hard part

957
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 2: of his hair and the glasses and the headset. It's perfect,

958
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 2: I would imagine, especially in the Miami Dade County era.

959
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 2: So you're seeing that costume out there, including something went

960
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 2: viral of a little child as Mike McDaniel perfect with

961
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 2: the run after the halftime interview. If we have that,

962
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 2: let it rip Eric behind the virtual glass with his

963
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 2: team as well.

964
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 3: Watch you look at this bad you even had the watch.

965
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 3: I don't know if you notice that, like the job,

966
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 3: I don't think.

967
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 4: Okay, that's a fair point.

968
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 3: They could be a rich kid, could be a rich kid.

969
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 6: Daniel is not even sneaky fast.

970
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 4: He just is fast. He's fast, He's quick.

971
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 2: McDaniel, Oh all right, because in that run, yeah, he

972
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 2: seemed that clar I mean, the kid is too.

973
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 6: But like McDaniel has like.

974
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 3: Well some real he was a college wide receiver.

975
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 6: Yeah I know, but that wasn't yesterday. Like he's still

976
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 6: he's maintained his speed. I don't feel like I am

977
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 6: quite as fast as I was in college.

978
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 2: You know, he probably doesn't maintain the speed, but he

979
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 2: probably moves much better than a typical thirty six year

980
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 2: old or whatever.

981
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:21,760
Speaker 6: Here's nothing special.

982
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 2: Then well, here's McDaniel on being a popular costume this Halloween.

983
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: I've seen a post on social media kid dressing up

984
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: as Mike McDaniel.

985
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 6: That does not compute, That doesn't make sense the video

986
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 6: if you want to see.

987
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 3: It, did your run football?

988
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 4: When kid did the run and the fan last night?

989
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 6: Wasn't that faster than the kid?

990
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 8: Is?

991
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: Curious?

992
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 3: What goes into Mike McDaniel.

993
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 2: I have no idea this is this is I refuse

994
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 2: to accept that as reality.

995
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 4: But I guess the knapsack would be es Central or

996
00:47:58,280 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 4: what do you the glasses?

997
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 2: The probably the essential would be the broad chest.

998
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 3: Right, Oh my god, Oh that's you're doing. You're doing

999
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 3: Mike McDaniel, Oh.

1000
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 2: My god, that is exactly mark how Greg would answer

1001
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 2: that question.

1002
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 6: The broad chest, Yes, absolutely, that the invisible.

1003
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 4: I do not accept that as an answer.

1004
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 3: We have to Eric behind the glass.

1005
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 2: We need to get Mike McDaniel on our show this offseason,

1006
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 2: any means necessary.

1007
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 4: Owners meetings. Let's go back, remember.

1008
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 3: All right, that's it.

1009
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 2: We'll be back on Thursday with the preview edition of

1010
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 2: Week nine and the draft and the Germany game, the

1011
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 2: first ever game from Frankfurt, Germany.

1012
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 3: How about that? And it's a.

1013
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 5: Dandy shout out to Jeremy Bergan by the way, feel

1014
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 5: better yes, thinking of you bro.

1015
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 3: Get well soon, see you back in the office. Hopefully

1016
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 3: heed the call.