Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to another episode of Inside the
Speaker 1: Studio on iHeart Radio. My name is Jordan run Tug,
Speaker 1: but enough about me. My guest today has sold over
Speaker 1: fifty million albums, one nine Grammys, sung a Bond theme,
Speaker 1: and inspired millions with her electrifying vocals, melodic mastery and
Speaker 1: dedication to her craft. Come on, this is the person
Speaker 1: who gave us every day as a winding road. If
Speaker 1: it makes you happy, strong enough, leave in Las Vegas,
Speaker 1: soak up the sun, and of course the immortal. All
Speaker 1: I wanna do any one of those is enough to
Speaker 1: earn my undying love and respect for all lifetime. She's
Speaker 1: the subject of a new documentary on Showtime That's How Today,
Speaker 1: called Cheryl. It explores her incredible journey, which took her
Speaker 1: from teaching music to school kids to sharing the stage
Speaker 1: with Michael Jackson just a few short months before she
Speaker 1: exploded as a musical force in her own right with
Speaker 1: Tuesday Night Music Club. The film documents her battle against
Speaker 1: far too many isms, sexism, ageism, and at times her
Speaker 1: own perfectionism. But it's ultimately a story about finding happiness
Speaker 1: on your own terms. It's a Happinessue sings up in
Speaker 1: a new song called Forever, which is included on the
Speaker 1: album that it companies the documentary, Inspired by your two sons.
Speaker 1: It's a tribute to cherishing deep connections and being truly present.
Speaker 1: I'm so happy to welcome Cheryl Crowe. I hope you
Speaker 1: enjoy our conversation. I love your documentary so much. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's like your music. It's warm, revelatory, compelling, and just
Speaker 1: so unflinchingly authentic and honest. It's so wonderful. I was
Speaker 1: surprised to learn that you actually were a little hesitant
Speaker 1: to do it at first. Why was that, Oh, I think, well,
Speaker 1: first and foremost, I'm a really private person. And I
Speaker 1: also didn't want to make a documentary that just felt
Speaker 1: like a recap of awards, and you know, I didn't
Speaker 1: want it to feel like a behind the music or
Speaker 1: something like that, even though I love v H one,
Speaker 1: so there's no knock against that, and they actually put
Speaker 1: me on the map, but I just want it to
Speaker 1: feel I wanted to tell the real story, and I
Speaker 1: wanted to actually tell the story of the person behind
Speaker 1: you know, thirty years of living or even longer than that,
Speaker 1: you know. But I was hesitant because I feel like
Speaker 1: most documentaries are made about people after they've died, and
Speaker 1: I just thought, oh, I still have a lot of
Speaker 1: living to do. But anyway, I gave into it and
Speaker 1: we did it. It was so incredible, And as you mentioned,
Speaker 1: this documentary, we'll teach people so much about the person
Speaker 1: behind these songs that we know and love. Did it
Speaker 1: teach you something about yourself? Yeah? I mean, I guess
Speaker 1: in in reflecting on all of the life's experiences, I
Speaker 1: really realized that a lot of what I went through
Speaker 1: is what so many women go through, no matter what
Speaker 1: business they're in, particularly when you work in companies that
Speaker 1: are run mostly by men. And and you know, there
Speaker 1: was there's just a lot along the way that I
Speaker 1: think probably a lot of young female artists have experienced.
Speaker 1: And there was something kind of liberating about being able
Speaker 1: to tell that story. None of these things I've I
Speaker 1: ever talked about openly or publicly, and even talk about
Speaker 1: getting older in my business, which is you know, has
Speaker 1: its own set of challenges. UM, and to talk about
Speaker 1: mental health and UM I learned, you know, I learned
Speaker 1: that ultimately I wound up being the person I started
Speaker 1: out as. UM. I went on a lot of detours
Speaker 1: and it took me a while to figure out how
Speaker 1: to get back. But um, it was interesting living reliving it.
Speaker 1: It was so interesting. And it opened with um clips
Speaker 1: from an interview where the interview calls you driven, which
Speaker 1: to me sounds like a compliment. And I heard that,
Speaker 1: I thought, But then reading more about it, seems like
Speaker 1: that was a much more loaded phrase in in the
Speaker 1: early to mid nineties. I thought it was an interesting
Speaker 1: way to start the documentary. Yeah, I mean, it still
Speaker 1: is somewhere I can remember when um, I think it
Speaker 1: was Kamala Harris was running for president or maybe Amy Closure,
Speaker 1: and they called her and bitious, She's too She's she's
Speaker 1: too ambitious, and that's a bad thing if you called that.
Speaker 1: If you say that about a man, you go, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's gonna be great, you know. And um, it just
Speaker 1: seems to be sort of a sideways compliment. Um. And
Speaker 1: And certainly when I was asked, I think Steve Croft
Speaker 1: asked me about it, it did hit me kind of funny, like,
Speaker 1: you know, what a horrible thing to be called driven?
Speaker 1: I thought it came across to me as a compliment.
Speaker 1: I hadn't realized Yeah it was. I mean, this film
Speaker 1: is so wonderful. Anyone listening now who hasn't seen it yet,
Speaker 1: please pause this episode and go listen to it or
Speaker 1: go watch it. It is absolutely amazing. One of the
Speaker 1: most mind blowing moments of this documentary for me was
Speaker 1: when you were hired to go out on the Michael
Speaker 1: Jackson tour relatively soon after arriving in Los Angeles. I mean,
Speaker 1: I've known the story, Oh my god, I mean I've
Speaker 1: known the story, but seeing the footage from these shows
Speaker 1: in Tokyo in front of seventy thousand people whatever, it
Speaker 1: was really just put it in perspective. Did did seeing
Speaker 1: that level of fame at that close range and everything
Speaker 1: that comes with it, from the craziness and you know, intrusion,
Speaker 1: to the privilege and the adoration. Did that alter your
Speaker 1: musical goals in any way? Was it like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: I maybe I don't want this type of thing, or
Speaker 1: there was it the opposite. Did it Did it inspire
Speaker 1: you to be not to use that word ambitious? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know what it did? It made me really confused
Speaker 1: because I was I was raised um by too hard
Speaker 1: working and really you know, solid Midwestern parents, and I
Speaker 1: was raised um with this idea that if you're a
Speaker 1: good person and you know you do the right thing
Speaker 1: and you work hard, that you know that's that's what
Speaker 1: will serve you in life. And when I got on
Speaker 1: that tour and really got a glimpse into what how
Speaker 1: the business works. You know the fact that large corporations
Speaker 1: will buy or back then this was during Paola, that
Speaker 1: they would buy, you know, a million copies of Michael
Speaker 1: his record, it would come out at number one. I mean,
Speaker 1: they everything was mapped out. I came away from it
Speaker 1: feeling like I'm never going to be able to be
Speaker 1: a big artist because I don't have that machine behind me.
Speaker 1: And then also, um to witness this incredible artist, whether
Speaker 1: you like Michael or you don't, after what we know
Speaker 1: about him. Um to witness that kind of artistry and
Speaker 1: to see massive audiences reacting, um like he was the
Speaker 1: Beatles or whatever. I mean, it just was a huge
Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like it. I've never been out
Speaker 1: of I've barely been out of Missouri. I mean I've
Speaker 1: only been in California for six months. Every single thing
Speaker 1: about that about that tour, the eight months of it
Speaker 1: was was life changing. And when I came home, Um,
Speaker 1: I went back to complete um unknown nous, no one
Speaker 1: knew who I was, and I started waiting Tay was again.
Speaker 1: It was like I went right back to where I
Speaker 1: was before, Like it never happened. Wow, I mean it
Speaker 1: must have been fitting in a sense because I think
Speaker 1: I'm right and saying ABC was first record you ever bought? Right,
Speaker 1: first record I ever bought was ABC. Yeah. I have
Speaker 1: a lot of threads in my life. Who are some
Speaker 1: of the other artists who sort of set you on
Speaker 1: your path? Um? Well, growing up, you know, around well
Speaker 1: as early as I remember, my parents played music in
Speaker 1: the house. They were musicians. Um. I I listened to
Speaker 1: a lot of James Taylor and Carol King tapestry. Um,
Speaker 1: I listened to a lot of My parents played a
Speaker 1: lot of big band music and a lot of crooners,
Speaker 1: so I knew all that stuff. I grew up watching
Speaker 1: musicals on TV like Oklahoma and My Fair Lady and
Speaker 1: West Side Story. But then as I got older, I
Speaker 1: gravitated to you know, Fleetwood Mac and the Rolling Stones,
Speaker 1: and um just got really into rock and roll and
Speaker 1: started to cut my teeth on that. And then when
Speaker 1: I went and saw Bonnie Right as a teenager and
Speaker 1: saw her playing guitar. I was like, okay, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: So you can be a woman and you can play
Speaker 1: guitar and you can front a band of dudes. Um,
Speaker 1: and that's what I wanted to do. What is the
Speaker 1: transition like going from somebody who who appreciates music and
Speaker 1: loves to listen to it to creating your own and
Speaker 1: writing your own songs. I mean it's someone like me
Speaker 1: who loves music with all of his heart and has
Speaker 1: never been able to write a song in his life.
Speaker 1: That's a turning point. That's always fascinating for me. What
Speaker 1: was there a moment for you, like a light bulb
Speaker 1: moment or was it a gradual progression. I didn't have
Speaker 1: a life bold moment. I just had this work ethic
Speaker 1: and and also this. I felt like music was a
Speaker 1: lifeline for me. I mean, I think a lot of
Speaker 1: kids will find that thing that they formed their identity
Speaker 1: around because being a teenager is hard, you know. I
Speaker 1: can't imagine being a teenager now with social media. But um,
Speaker 1: for me, it was music, Like I knew how to play.
Speaker 1: I could play by ear, I could play anything I heard,
Speaker 1: sit down at the piano and play TV Wonder and
Speaker 1: Elton John and UM, you know, I just knew that's
Speaker 1: how I I saw myself, and I saw myself getting
Speaker 1: out of my hometown, and um, music was just a
Speaker 1: lifeline for me. And that was the very thing that
Speaker 1: I just gravitated to in every way. You know, I
Speaker 1: had no business crashing an audition for Michael Jackson, but
Speaker 1: I just felt like, what do I have to lose,
Speaker 1: you know, so, UM, I just kept kept keeping on.
Speaker 1: There was something you said recently, I think it was
Speaker 1: on the Bobby Bones podcast about your your writing process
Speaker 1: and creative process, at least for your first few albums,
Speaker 1: when I think it was Bill Buttrell suggested that everyone
Speaker 1: played the ttreament that wasn't their primary one, which to
Speaker 1: me is just the coolest thing. I mean, you're a
Speaker 1: classically trained pianist and now you're on bass or something.
Speaker 1: I just thought that was such an interesting method. I
Speaker 1: wanted to ask you more about that. That way to
Speaker 1: keep a spontaneity in the creative process. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: really gravitate to that now even and I carry that
Speaker 1: with me and I learned I've learned so much from
Speaker 1: so many people along the way, and that is has
Speaker 1: been a really valuable tool. And it's really the reason
Speaker 1: I wound up playing bass, because I find myself playing
Speaker 1: writing melodies over bass lines, which kept me from just
Speaker 1: playing the same chord progressions because as a piano player,
Speaker 1: you know, you get comfortable, you know what sounds good,
Speaker 1: and I would I would think melody and lyric and
Speaker 1: just play the route, and then I would try to
Speaker 1: have somebody else come in and play the bass part
Speaker 1: and be like, no, that doesn't feel right, so I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be in the bass player right and that that
Speaker 1: was just such a great way to approach record making,
Speaker 1: was by like what can what can I do that
Speaker 1: has have been done before? And um and I still
Speaker 1: try to do that. That is so cool. You're one
Speaker 1: of my my bass playing heroes. I I loved you
Speaker 1: and I've I've really rarely heard of people writing on
Speaker 1: the base. I think that's the coolest thing that you
Speaker 1: use that as as your your muse, your starting point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's been really I mean, I have this one guitar.
Speaker 1: It's an acoustic guitar. It's this nineteen sixty four country
Speaker 1: and Western that we call the Little money Maker because
Speaker 1: most of the songs that I've made money off of
Speaker 1: have been written on that, but um, starting about the
Speaker 1: Globe sessions, I started writing on base and wrote my
Speaker 1: favorite mistake on base and wrote, I mean there's a
Speaker 1: lot of myself that was written on base, and um, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it keeps me from being schlocky, I think. I mean,
Speaker 1: speaking of the Little money Maker, I was gonna ask you,
Speaker 1: is there an element of I hate to use this word,
Speaker 1: but superstition in your songwriting? I mean a certain instrument,
Speaker 1: a certain room, a certain time of day, a certain
Speaker 1: t that you drink before you start. Is there an
Speaker 1: element just to kind of that gets you in in
Speaker 1: the zone, for lack of a better term, for when
Speaker 1: you start. It's been a really funny um progression for me.
Speaker 1: In the old days, we would never record before like
Speaker 1: you know, six at night. We generally in the old days,
Speaker 1: I would walk in and just have like a couple
Speaker 1: of lines for a song, or have a couple of
Speaker 1: ideas or whatever, and we would you know, go out
Speaker 1: and run around New Orleans or wherever we're recording New York.
Speaker 1: We come back after dinner, we drink some beer or
Speaker 1: some wine, and you start recording about ten and then
Speaker 1: we'd go to like four in the morning, you know,
Speaker 1: it would be crazy. And something in my mind was like, well,
Speaker 1: I can't write a great song unless I've had some
Speaker 1: wine and it's like the middle of the night or whatever.
Speaker 1: My last few records I've written between school drop off
Speaker 1: and school pick up, and I am so inspired. So
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think. I think once you get
Speaker 1: that that thing out of your head that tells you
Speaker 1: this is the way it's got to be, you can
Speaker 1: write anywhere just by sitting quiet, picking up a base
Speaker 1: or a great instrument, and just seeing what happens. Do
Speaker 1: you find that that the best songs are the ones
Speaker 1: that are most effortless, ones that kind of come with
Speaker 1: the fastest. Yeah, I think the ones that are the
Speaker 1: most anointed are the ones that kind of come out
Speaker 1: of nowhere. And then there are those songs that are
Speaker 1: good songs that you've crafted because you know how to
Speaker 1: craft a song. But I've had a few songs in
Speaker 1: my career that came out of nowhere that weren't even
Speaker 1: typical of how I write um that I feel like
Speaker 1: are just the gifts that you are eternally humbled by.
Speaker 1: What are some of those or any to come to mind. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean Redemption Day is definitely one of those that
Speaker 1: that was the song that um came off the heels
Speaker 1: of my going and playing for the troops in Bosnia
Speaker 1: and I came home because I I split up with
Speaker 1: a relationship that I thought was kind of a forever
Speaker 1: relationship and was going to you know, right from the heart,
Speaker 1: and I just couldn't get anywhere with it. So I
Speaker 1: put my guitar down and opened my computer and suddenly
Speaker 1: I've written seven or eight stanzas, which is not really
Speaker 1: how I write. I don't usually embrace or even adopt
Speaker 1: that Bob Dylan cadence. But it just came out of
Speaker 1: nowhere as if it was it needed to be written,
Speaker 1: and then ultimately Johnny Cash wound up recording it. So
Speaker 1: it just goes to show you that music is just
Speaker 1: it's not definable. Inspiration is not definable. Um, it's from
Speaker 1: some other cosmic space, you know, It's just it's a gift. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about I'm so fascinated by
Speaker 1: the notion of rules in the songwriting because I'm just
Speaker 1: that line between rules and raw creativity, and and you've
Speaker 1: spoken about how you know listening to people like Burt
Speaker 1: back Rack, is it just you know that that's a
Speaker 1: great teacher right there, just listening to stuff. How important
Speaker 1: our rules in the songwriting? Is that the kind of
Speaker 1: thing that you need to know in order to break them.
Speaker 1: It's funny when I went to college, I got my
Speaker 1: degree in classical piano, and you had to take a
Speaker 1: composition class, and they're all these rules, like you can
Speaker 1: never use um parallel fists. And now it's all these
Speaker 1: um all these rules that are basically meant to be
Speaker 1: broken if you're truly tapping into art. And I do
Speaker 1: feel that way about songwriting, although I think there's something
Speaker 1: really beautiful, and I tell this to young artists all
Speaker 1: the time. One of the greatest things you can ever
Speaker 1: do is get in a cover band, because even by osmosis,
Speaker 1: you you are exposed to what makes music, what makes styles,
Speaker 1: what makes a great pop sound great. And for me
Speaker 1: having grown up in cover bands and for me learning
Speaker 1: how to sing like I mean, being in car bands
Speaker 1: and having to sing like Shaka Khan, now you're gonna
Speaker 1: sound like Chrissy Hin. Now you're knowing how to manipulate
Speaker 1: the voice. All those things are really powerful when you
Speaker 1: sit down to try to figure out who you are,
Speaker 1: and you're able to pull from these influences. Um. I
Speaker 1: I find it to be really helpful. Um. I mean,
Speaker 1: I can listen to a bird Back erect song and
Speaker 1: I will ultimately if I sit down and start playing,
Speaker 1: I will write something that's a little bit different than
Speaker 1: if I've just listened to an Eagle song or and
Speaker 1: neither one of them less important than the other. That's
Speaker 1: so interesting. I never thought of it that way. Almost
Speaker 1: reverse engineering these, you know, these hits if you're in
Speaker 1: a cover band, to kind of see what what what works? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, and it's great, you know, it's great to
Speaker 1: know why. Um you know, uh, James Jamerson Baseline can
Speaker 1: suddenly make a a song fly out of the radio
Speaker 1: and last for fifty years, you know. And those are
Speaker 1: the things that if you're lucky and ever get one
Speaker 1: of those, um, you know, you can retire happy. What
Speaker 1: is your relationship like to music today? Is it is
Speaker 1: it a daily practice like some people do yoga and
Speaker 1: some people jog, or is it something that you do
Speaker 1: only when you feel moved and feel as though you
Speaker 1: know you have something to say? Um? Well, it's it's
Speaker 1: been different recently because when the pandemic happened, I had
Speaker 1: so much free time and it was it was beautiful
Speaker 1: free time. I mean, i'd feel a little guilty saying that,
Speaker 1: but I didn't have that pole like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: everybody else was touring. I should be out there touring.
Speaker 1: Nobody was touring, and to be able to just it
Speaker 1: down and play and have the luxury of getting back
Speaker 1: into just loving music, playing other people's songs, and um,
Speaker 1: I've gotten more. I just I will more likely go
Speaker 1: sit at the piano or pick up my guitar now
Speaker 1: and just play for the fun of it than I
Speaker 1: have in years. And it feels so great. And my
Speaker 1: kids when I first started doing that and practicing, I
Speaker 1: mean I started actually practice practicing my own material so
Speaker 1: I could do virtual concerts. They're like, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: And I said, well, I'm practicing, and they're like, why
Speaker 1: are you practicing? You already know how to play. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, because practice makes you better, you know, and that,
Speaker 1: and because I love it, and it's the reason that
Speaker 1: I do it is because it's it's the thing I
Speaker 1: left first, and so it's good for them to see
Speaker 1: that as well. Um, but yeah, I do write when
Speaker 1: I'm I'm inspired, but I also write when I'm not inspired,
Speaker 1: and sometimes good songs come out of that. Wow. I
Speaker 1: mean that's the craft I guess too, when you can
Speaker 1: sit down and make a song even where there was
Speaker 1: once nothing, You you get up from your desk later
Speaker 1: and there's something right there. Yeah, And that's the great
Speaker 1: motivating factor is that you there's there's always that possibility
Speaker 1: that you'll come out with something that you've never written before,
Speaker 1: and it it makes you feel I think a really
Speaker 1: interesting example of that. I was a huge fan of
Speaker 1: the Beatles Get Back documentary and to see them. I
Speaker 1: think I heard you say that that watching the band
Speaker 1: sit down trying to come up with stuff on the
Speaker 1: spot and really for a lot of it fail. Uh,
Speaker 1: changed your relationship to music in a certain way. I
Speaker 1: think was something that I think walking that just blew
Speaker 1: my mind. I mean, I think, um, well, first and foremost,
Speaker 1: there was so much, so much lore about who they
Speaker 1: were and how they broke up and all that, and
Speaker 1: you witnessed these friends, I mean, and and not just friends,
Speaker 1: but like, um, they were like blunkers. I mean they
Speaker 1: literally were like discovering and creating music that has been
Speaker 1: the springboard for all of us. And and to witness
Speaker 1: the incredible talent. I mean even when they were jamming
Speaker 1: up those songs that ultimately wound up on the Wide
Speaker 1: album and Abbey Road and Let It Be, Um, just
Speaker 1: the incredible musicianship. I was so inspired, um by that
Speaker 1: documentary that I went up watching the third one twice
Speaker 1: and then went up going in the studio and writing
Speaker 1: this song called Forever with my buddy Jeff. That is
Speaker 1: right from you know, the Yesterday Handbook or the Blackbird
Speaker 1: Handbook of just vulnerability. That song I was going to
Speaker 1: ask you about that, your song Forever. I found it
Speaker 1: difficult to listen to and watch the video without getting
Speaker 1: choked up. I thought it was so truemendously moving, such
Speaker 1: a touching piece of music. I wanted to ask you
Speaker 1: more about that. Obviously, much of your your your sons
Speaker 1: are in there. Um. Then they've never been I've never
Speaker 1: let him be a part of mine social media platform.
Speaker 1: I've always felt like they need to be shielded from
Speaker 1: that because they deserve the right to just be kids
Speaker 1: and not be famous. Um. But that song was was
Speaker 1: the result of my fifteen year old to me home
Speaker 1: and talking about this stress that he experiences at school
Speaker 1: and some of his friends experience. And man, kids today
Speaker 1: experience so much more stress than we did. I mean
Speaker 1: we they're worrying about the big stuff, like whether the
Speaker 1: planet is gonna not sustain us. I mean, they're worried
Speaker 1: about things that would never have been in my mind.
Speaker 1: I would be worried about whether I got asked to
Speaker 1: the eighth grade dance. You know that that that was
Speaker 1: the kind of worry we had, and um so that
Speaker 1: that was the impetus for that song and the inspiration
Speaker 1: for it. It's an incredible track. It's on the album
Speaker 1: that's accompanying the documentary. There's a few new songs on it.
Speaker 1: I also love. But this Way Let It Bleed is
Speaker 1: one of my favorite Stones albums ever. Your version of
Speaker 1: Live with Me, Oh it rocks. It's so great. What
Speaker 1: led you to record that track? It's so awesome? Well,
Speaker 1: you know, it's we It's in the documentary and it
Speaker 1: was the very first thing I ever got to play
Speaker 1: with the Rolling Stones. And man they have been I
Speaker 1: mean they're the bedrock for me of I mean, if
Speaker 1: it weren't for them, there'd be now Sheryl Crow for sure,
Speaker 1: and um, so we thought this would be fun. It's
Speaker 1: in the movie. Let's do a cover. Let's do our
Speaker 1: version of their song, which is a crazy task in
Speaker 1: and of itself. And then and the when we were done,
Speaker 1: I thought, you know what, I'm just gonna I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna text Mick and just see if he might play
Speaker 1: harp on it. I mean, the fact that I could
Speaker 1: even text him, that I even have his number is
Speaker 1: makes my head one to explode right now. But and
Speaker 1: he's said yes, and he's like, send it on and
Speaker 1: he did it, and there it is, and it's doing
Speaker 1: really well from what I understand. So, um, it's you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's so much fun, and it's such a cool
Speaker 1: it's such a cool song, and it's so much it's
Speaker 1: just a cool thing. I'm so stoked. It's so great.
Speaker 1: You're finally gearing up to to head on the road again, finally,
Speaker 1: I mean this that's got to just feel so good.
Speaker 1: And the boys coming to I know, they've got had
Speaker 1: some special guest spots in the past. They always come
Speaker 1: with me, and I think at which point they don't
Speaker 1: want to come anymore. I'll definitely slow down. I asked
Speaker 1: him all that time, do you want me to retire?
Speaker 1: Get me stawn home? And They're like, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: we love going on the road. We love it, and
Speaker 1: but I think at some point girls are going to
Speaker 1: enter the picture and going out on the road with
Speaker 1: mom is not gonna be as much fun. But we're
Speaker 1: excited about it. I mean, it's been a couple of
Speaker 1: years that have been really for everybody, really hard to
Speaker 1: sit on your hands and to watch people that you
Speaker 1: love not be able to work, and so um, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're super superside. Sure. I can't wait to see you
Speaker 1: out there. So thank you so much for your time today,
Speaker 1: and most importantly, thank you for your music. It's given
Speaker 1: me and so many people I love so much joy
Speaker 1: over the years. You were the best. Thank you. Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, Jordan, thank you for having me on. We
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