1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: Ron and Aian what this means in every day English. 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: You take your car into the repair shop, you try 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:10,239 Speaker 1: to get a software update. There's a bug. It's not 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: allowing the software to complete its job, and it's basically 5 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: going to make the car worse. The car Doctor, I've 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: had my car now, says, are you sitting down? I 7 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: got it in nineteen sixty two. I've had it ever 8 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: since nineteen sixty two at the mint condition, and we're 9 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,959 Speaker 1: very proud of it as part of the family. Welcome 10 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: to the radio home of Ron and Anian the Car Doctor, 11 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: since this is where car owners the world overturned to 12 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 1: for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics 13 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: giving you a busy signal, pick up the phone and 14 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: call in the garage door. This are open, but I 15 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 1: am here to take your call at eight five five 16 00:00:55,800 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: and now he running. You know, I was thinking about 17 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: that thirty eight Chevy that was the farmer from uh 18 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: I think it was Iowa right or Idaho last week, 19 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,839 Speaker 1: and I was thinking about that that thirty eight Chevy 20 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: that he's gotten the family since nineteen sixty two. Do 21 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: you think forty years from now anybody's gonna call this 22 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: radio show. Let me think about this question. Now, Okay, 23 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: maybe this is a little exploratory. They're gonna call this 24 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: radio show, and whoever sitting in this chair at that time, 25 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 1: hopefully it's me, is gonna be sitting here talking about well, 26 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: I bought this camera and I've got it's not gonna happen. 27 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: Just just food for thought. It's like, look at how 28 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: cars have changed, right, They used to be part of 29 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 1: the family. Now it's five years old. Throw it up, 30 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: get another one. I don't get it anyway. This is 31 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor. My name is ron and Nato zero. 32 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: Let's get over the line one and talk to Joe 33 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: and see what's going on here. Joe, Welcome to the 34 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: Car Doctor. Hey, Rony, what can I do for you? Yeah, 35 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: just wanted to pick your brain and see what you 36 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: thought about these new Kia Souls a little mouse mobiles. 37 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: My daughter really likes them. And yeah, the kids like 38 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: those cars. Yeah, they like those cars there. I guess 39 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: they're cute, you know, they're kind of like the Barbie 40 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: Doll of this generation, the Barbie car um, you know. 41 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 1: And they're they're decent cars. Kia and Hyundai. The only 42 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: thing I can tell you about it. You know that 43 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 1: that makes me a little nervous. Is what years this 44 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: like a twelve or thirteen? She was looking at a 45 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: six team. Yeah, just ask them. She's buying it from 46 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: the dealer. Uses it pre certified or anything not not 47 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: pre certified. That's a little bit out of her budget. Um, 48 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: But it is used from a dealer. She's looking at 49 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: one um from a dealer, and then one from just 50 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: a you know, a used car a dealer. Second right, 51 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: And and what's the what's the what's the price difference? 52 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: Price point? Well, the dealer hit you with a bunch 53 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: of fees. Um. That's really hard me to to swallow. 54 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 1: For um, the independent place was um, probably two thousand 55 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: dollars less time you factor and all those all those fees. 56 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: It scared me a little bit because I saw that 57 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: they are g d I engines. Yeah, but you know what, 58 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: you know what, Joe, You're not going to get away 59 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: from that. It's it's like start stop technology. You're just 60 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: not gonna get away from that anymore. Or either not 61 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: that these are, but are both cars similar in mileage 62 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: and cost factor? One had ninety thousand and it was 63 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: a little nicer. It had like the two leader engine, 64 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: the one from the dealer that was lower mileage had 65 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: it was you know, the it didn't have the nice wheels. 66 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: It had the one point six and it um but 67 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: about thirty thousand miles different. So that's what I was wondering. 68 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: If a Kia with a hundred thousand miles, is it 69 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: pretty worn out or do you think it has some 70 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: good life left? I I always buy mileage, Joe, I 71 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: would I would take the car with the lesser mileage 72 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: in a heartbeat. Now, one thing I wanted to thousand 73 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: miles between all the changes on the car packs and stuff. Well, 74 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: let me say this about that. There's an issue going on. 75 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: Kei and Hyundai's all right. I've seen it with the twelves, 76 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: the thirteens, the fourteens. I haven't seen it on the 77 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: newer ones yet. Doesn't mean it doesn't exist. You've got 78 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: to do some research and find out are these knee 79 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: engines that are failing that Kia and Hyundai are replacing 80 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: under extended warranty. Because overall, I think they're decent cars, 81 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: they're cheap cars. She's not gonna have a car. She's 82 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: not gonna have the car. But three years at that 83 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: point it will be uh, you know, it'll be eight 84 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: years old, nine years old. And they don't they don't 85 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: last the duration. I haven't seen one hit the fifteen 86 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: year mark. I know somebody's gonna write it now. I 87 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: got a fifteen year old Kia. Good Ye're the one. Um, 88 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: uh you know, lucky you. So we'll make a monument 89 00:04:55,920 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: for it. Um. But I think that, you know, I 90 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: would buy mileage and I would also ask her who 91 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: does she think is going to work on this? Because 92 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: one of the things, one of the things we always 93 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: have to remember and with with young people, we have 94 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: to teach them that you're not just buying a car, 95 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: You're buying a lifestyle, and you can't be flip about it. 96 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: You can't say, well, I'll just take it to the 97 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: oil change place and anybody can work on it. No, 98 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: anybody can't work on anything anymore. It's it's it's becoming 99 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: a very you know, exclusive market in the world today 100 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: that what we work on is what we're tooled for 101 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: in the repair shop and scan tools and diagnostics and 102 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: all that. So, you know, is this car going to college? Joe? 103 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: Is that the idea? So she're going to high school 104 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 1: with it or what. Yeah, she's kind of going to 105 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 1: college about eight hours away, So it wouldn't be something 106 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: that I'm glad you said that that was going to be. 107 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 1: Something I asked was that as an independent shop, are 108 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: you are they pretty easy to work on her? Um? 109 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: I'd like her to probably got an independent rather than 110 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 1: the dealer. And part of this conversation has to be 111 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: centered around the fact, now she's got to be eight 112 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: hours away and she's got to find somebody she trusts, 113 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: and the car's got ninety miles on it. Joe, that's 114 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: a recipe for disaster, all right, that's yeah, on anything. 115 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: I mean, that's just that's just a recipe for disaster. Yeah, 116 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: I think you know, listen, if Joe wants to let 117 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: her buy the ninety tho mile Kia, and he's ready 118 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: to assume that when they call up in ten thousand 119 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: miles and the trans blew up, okay, well we'll pay 120 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: to fix it. That's the gamble. But if you're trying 121 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 1: to head your bets, you gotta buy mileage. Anything can 122 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 1: go wrong with anything but mileage, mileage and condition. You know, 123 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: if they're both the same condition and they were going 124 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: ten thousand miles in between oil changes. As long as 125 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: the dealership is going to give you some kind of 126 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: a guarantee. They're giving you a guarantee with it, Uh 127 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: not a great one? Well, okay, something all right? What's 128 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:59,679 Speaker 1: the used card dealer giving you? I mean whatever? The statement? 129 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: I guess they have to warrant you for like three 130 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: months too or something. Well, don't think no, make sure 131 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: you get it in writing. Yeah, yeah, you know. So, 132 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: So Joe, let me ask you this question. Let me 133 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: let me be the Dutch uncle here. All right, So 134 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: what what's your daughter's first name? Gracie? So listen, Joe, 135 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: we're sending Gracie to college, right, she's eight hours away? 136 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: Eight hours has to translate into what what is she? 137 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: Five six dred miles away? Okay? So Joe, your arm 138 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: doesn't reach that far, all right, not knowing your financial condition, 139 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: wouldn't it pay for Dad to give her a little 140 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: bit of dough now and get her into a nicer 141 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: car with less mileage, let her pay the bulk of 142 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: the down payment and the and the and the monthly payment, 143 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: and have Pop just help her out a little bit, 144 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: kind of motivate her along right, because it's gonna be 145 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: less aggravation for you and it's gonna keep Gracie safer. 146 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: And that's what this is about. That's really what. Yeah, 147 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: that's that's what it comes down to. You know. Um, 148 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: one thing, and I really believe this with all my heart, man, 149 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: is you know what, we can't teach kids enough about 150 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: how to properly maintain a car and how to be 151 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: safe in a car because you look at the fatalities 152 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: and you look at the things that go wrong, and 153 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: especially with girls. All right, now, girls can get flat tires, 154 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: but girls cars can break down. You know what, Joe, 155 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: if if your car broke down and you got a 156 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: flat I gotta say it like this, no creep is 157 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: gonna come along and bother you. But but but but 158 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 1: but a young well you never know. But I mean 159 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: you get my point. A young girl on the side 160 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: of the road. Um, you know it's is this her 161 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: first car that she's driving. Yeah, so that's yeah, so 162 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: it doesn't know. Well, but not taking great care of 163 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: things can't turn into I'm gonna let the kid back 164 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 1: herself into a corner and and and really you know, 165 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: have an issue. So part of what this has to 166 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 1: be is everybody's got to grow up. Everybody's gotta put 167 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: on their boots, one leg at a time and pick 168 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: themselves up by their straps at some point. And part 169 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: of this conversation has to also be Gracey, Dad's gonna 170 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: help you. If there's a mom, mom and dad are 171 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: gonna help you, et cetera. Um, but this is what 172 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: we need back and lay it out on a piece 173 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: of paper. Let me let me give you a little 174 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: piece of fatherly advice brother to brother. Here, Okay, lay 175 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: it out on a piece of paper. Makers sign it. 176 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: This is what we agreed to, and this is what 177 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: we expect from you. You're going to college. This isn't 178 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: party city. If it's party city, you'll be home in 179 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: six months, all right. You're going to get an education, 180 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: not party And we expect you to take reasonable care 181 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: of the car. It's just just, you know, it's just 182 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 1: it's just kind of how it works out. And one 183 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: last thing before I let you go. The day she 184 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: brings the car home, take the air out of one 185 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 1: of the tires and explain to her how to change 186 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: a flat, or just just just explain to her how 187 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: to change the flat. All my kids came home. They 188 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: were all thrilled. Hey, I got my license, I'm going out. 189 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: They come back and they go, my car's got a flat. Yeah, 190 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: how did that happened? And um they sat down, got 191 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: the owner's manual out and they all read about how 192 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 1: to change the flat and they all know, all my 193 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: kids can change a flat on the side of the 194 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 1: road because girls cars get flat tires just like boys 195 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: cars get flat tires. And there's creeps out there for everybody. 196 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, I really appreciate you. Welcome Joe. You 197 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: take good care, and I hope you make the right decisions. 198 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 1: It sounds like you will five zero running eating the 199 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 1: car doctor coming back right after this. Welcome back right 200 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,479 Speaker 1: an end car DOCU. Let's get over to Bretton, Pennsylvania. 201 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: Oh five Chevy Avalanche, brett Welcome to the car doctor, sir. 202 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: How can I help? Oh? Thank you very much. You're welcome, sir. 203 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: What can I do for you? Two times and five 204 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: Chevy Avalanche. And usually about within an hour into my drive, 205 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: I get a message that says transmission hot okay, and 206 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 1: the local transmission guys can't figure out what the problem is. 207 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: Are you towing with it? When it happens so so 208 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: it's so you can duplicate it, but it takes an 209 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: hour's ride to do it right. Okay, so you know 210 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 1: my questions are and is it consistent? Is it consistently 211 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 1: an hour? Uh? Yeah, it's happened. Why don't you it's yeah, 212 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: it's having about six or seven times. And you know, 213 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: no check engine light, don't normally drive very far? No, no, 214 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 1: no check engine light, No running issues with it. The 215 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 1: trans seems to operate normal. The check engine lights on 216 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: all the time. And my mechanics said, it's it's because 217 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: it has a hundred and sixty three thousand miles on it. 218 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: It just keeps coming back on. Really, I don't know that. 219 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: That's his answer. Oh, Brett, how old are you? Brett? 220 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: You know you're fifty. Your your your elbow is gonna 221 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: start to lock up and you won't be able to 222 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: tilt it when you get to the bar to have 223 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:17,719 Speaker 1: the next beer. And unfortunately that's just the way it's 224 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: gonna be. Would you accept that answer? That's why I'm 225 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: calling you right, Yeah, it's you know, so if a 226 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: mechanic and I don't care whether it's your mechanic. The 227 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: guy the next call is mechanic. If a guy three 228 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: towns over, seven states away, If a mechanic says, the 229 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: check engine lights on because the car is old, and 230 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: that's just the way it's gonna be, blanket statement, universal law. 231 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: The guy's an idiot, all right, he doesn't know what 232 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: he's talking about. There's always a reason. There's a reason 233 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: your elbow doesn't bend. There's a reason to check engine 234 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: lights on. Now, the right answer might be, hey, Brett, 235 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: the check engine lights on because it needs seven things 236 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: and it's going to be expensive to fix and the 237 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: parts are worn out because it's got a hundred and 238 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: sixty three thousand miles on it. That's an okay answer, 239 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 1: but as out okay, but as at least it's an explanation. 240 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: You get my point. So I want to know what 241 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: codes are there? Do I have a trans temp fold? 242 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: Do I have a coolant temp fold? Because our first 243 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: issue is do we have a real problem or is 244 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: the truck lying to us? All right, listen, you've already 245 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: proved by your own admission the truck will operate. You 246 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: gotta get a little lecture here, okay, I just don't 247 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: take it personal. Yeah, yeah, you already know. The truck 248 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: will operate by virtue of a check engine light being on, 249 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 1: and it still moves. Right. So now we've got a 250 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: I've got a broken truck. The truck is saying, hey, 251 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: check engine line on. I've got a couple of codes. 252 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 1: I've got one code. Whatever I've got, still drive the truck. 253 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: But what if that was a short trans temp sensor 254 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: or a coolant sensor circuit? Fold? Okay, do this? You 255 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: got you got a pencil and paper, bread, I'll give 256 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: you a real quick test. I want your mechanic to do. 257 00:13:56,480 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: Let's see if he can do this. All right, you're ready? Okay, okay, 258 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: this is what I wanted, what I wanted to do, 259 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: This is what I wanted to do. This is what 260 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: I want you to think about. I wanted to take 261 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: a scan tool, all right. First of all, I wanted 262 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 1: to pull all the codes. I wanted to tell you 263 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: what the codes are, all right, and then you can 264 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 1: call me back and tell me if we got to 265 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: talk about this further. But how about we look at 266 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: engine cooling temperature on a scan tool if you have one, 267 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: to do it yourself, look at engine cooling temp, all right, 268 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: typical engine cooling temp on these trucks, it's gonna run 269 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: somewhere between one and two. All right. You should see 270 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: trans temp close to engine temp. All right? If if 271 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: you see if you see engine temper and you see 272 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: trans temper to thirty five, all right? Yeah, and then 273 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: we've got a restriction. Maybe we got to talk about 274 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: a cooler that's getting bound up or restricted. Maybe we've 275 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: got tired fluid. Maybe we've got a filter problem. Something's 276 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: raising actually physically raising the level of that trans fluid. 277 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: My question is is it real or is it is 278 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: it made up? I need to know and that's part 279 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: of what my diagnosis would entail. So that's why I 280 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: want to look at cool in temper and transtemp how 281 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: far apart or how close are they? And that's that's 282 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: really easy to do. This generation GM vehicle has had 283 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: more than a few problems with you ready for this. 284 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: You're gonna love this word. Intermittent, faulty trans temp sensors 285 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: that falsely report problems that aren't there. Now, I'm not 286 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: saying change the trans temp sensor. I'm not saying it 287 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: needs a trans I'm not saying it needs anything. I'm 288 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: just offering you the idea that there's a simple way 289 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: to look for that, all right. If we see trans 290 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: temper three hundred degrees and cooling temper two hundred degrees, 291 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: and I can put my hand on the bottom of 292 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: the transmission and it's warm and uncomfortable but not scald 293 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: And guess what the trans temp sensors lying right now? 294 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: If I do if I do that, if I can 295 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: do that with a thermal imager or some kind of 296 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: a heat gun, it's a little it's a little easier 297 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: on my hands. And Mrs Brett will appreciate that that 298 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: my hands aren't burnt when he when he gives her 299 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: a hug. All right, Um, so just well you get 300 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: the point. Okay, I might help you get if your hands, 301 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: if your hands are all beat up, brother, that might 302 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: be the problem. I can make this the love doctor, 303 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: all right, But you get the point. You know where 304 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: I'm coming from, all right. Um, so let's let's let's 305 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: go look at that. Now. Let's assume dangerous word. Assume 306 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: you have to say it like that, that the issue 307 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: here is real, that it really is overheating. All right. 308 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: Now the question becomes why I need to know what 309 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: the temperature actually is. So maybe the mechanic has to 310 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: drive it. And I'm always blown away by this. Maybe 311 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: maybe I'm weird. I don't know, you know, And I 312 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: tell this story all the time. People are probably tired 313 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: of hearing it. I've got an old four Chevy suburban. 314 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: I think it just turned seventy three thou miles on it. 315 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: I never drive my own vehicle because I'm always driving 316 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: somebody else's vehicle because it does something weird. So why 317 00:16:57,920 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: can't this mechanic or one of the mechanics with the 318 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: mechanic at the trans shop, Brett can say, hey, dude, 319 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,199 Speaker 1: take my truck for two days, take it home, use 320 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 1: it as the runaround vehicle if you have to take 321 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: a half hour ride somewhere. Drive my vehicle. Have a 322 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: scan tool on it. Right, look at the temp. What 323 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: do you notice? Okay, if we assume that it's real, 324 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: why is it real at this mileage? Is the trend 325 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: starting to fail? Is it starting to wear out? Do 326 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: I have a restricted cooler problem? Right? Trans fluid gets 327 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: run through a trans cooler that has to dissipate heat 328 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 1: and cool Do you have a radiator issue? All? Right? 329 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: Does the trans cooler go through the radiator, Could the 330 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: radiator have restriction, could engine temperature be slightly high, elevating 331 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: trans temperature. There's a lot of factors to look at. 332 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: And the last, the last thing I want you to 333 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 1: think about, And this one's easy. This one you can 334 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: do just as soon as you get off the phone, 335 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: go out and look at the front of the truck. 336 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: You know, does it look like it's missing any of 337 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: the lower valance or air dams that direct air up 338 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: into to the radiator area where the trans cooler is. Okay, 339 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: you know, we've we've got cases and it happens all 340 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: the time. Something falls off, we hit a snow bank, 341 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: something gets damaged, and all of a sudden, air flow 342 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: doesn't go the way the GM engineer wanted it to go, 343 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden that phicle is starting to 344 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: overheat or something runs hot and not a kilter. So 345 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: you've got a bunch of things to go look at. 346 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: If they want to hear this again, tell him to 347 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: go look up Ronny in the Car Doctor podcast. You're 348 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: down around the bottom of the second hour on today's date, 349 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: and they can listen to the whole thing again. And 350 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: if he has any comments about my comments, have him 351 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: call me. I'm any in the car doctor. We're back 352 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: right after this clocome back. Why don't any of the 353 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: car doctor. You know next weekend is Father's Day. I 354 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: think yeah, it is right, And so two things Number one, 355 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 1: next weekend we'll be going to giving away a twenty 356 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: gift card for Orilly Oto parts, so you can call 357 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: in and it's gonna be up to Tom to decide 358 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: who wins. That he'll come up with some sort of measurement. 359 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: And maybe next weekend Tom has been on my case. 360 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: He wants to hear the story again about how I 361 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: got on radio. We won't do that. Maybe we'll hear 362 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: the story about fixing my father in law's Maserati, because 363 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: that's a good story for Father's Day. That's um that 364 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: you guys have already heard my father's stories a million times, 365 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: but I don't think i've told that story about working 366 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: on the Duke's yellow Maseratti and what that became. So 367 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: we'll talk about that next weekend. So Tom, you remind 368 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 1: me of that. Let's get over to Chuck in May 369 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: camera wagon and some overheating after an oil change. Chuck, 370 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: what happened? It was so simple? You just took it 371 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 1: in for an oil change. Now it's broken. What's going on? 372 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: Things happen? Yeah? Um, what is this? Is this a 373 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:55,959 Speaker 1: V six camera wagon it? And go ahead. You took 374 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: it in for an oil change and right afterwards it 375 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: just started to overheat. Well, my daughter took it in. 376 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: I bought this for her. Uh I think that roughly 377 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: forty one thousand miles came out of Tennessee's I understand 378 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: it is like almost no rust if any on this 379 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: vehicle anywhere, and uh so I needed to do something 380 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: for it. And I happened to come across this and 381 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: I it sounding like it was a pretty decent vehicle. 382 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: Um took it for a ride down the road at 383 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: fifty five miles an hour, and I was weaving back 384 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: and forth, and I was actually surprised at how we'll 385 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: attract they really are, Remember, I thought it was so 386 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: everything seems to be going well. She takes it home 387 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: because southern Maine and she's up around Bangor right now. 388 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: So she takes the thing home, driving around for a 389 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: few weeks, and it goes to get some oil chains 390 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: and made about halfway home and the thing was over eating. 391 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: So I'm being told that when you take some of 392 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: these caps off that you might get air in the system, 393 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: and of course air doesn't prove to be a very 394 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: good cool one. Well let's here, let's back up a second. 395 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: They took the radiator cap off. Y. Well, it seems 396 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: like these oil change places, they love to get into everything. 397 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: They're trying to see if they can sell you something. 398 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 1: I think so. I think they've probably had every cap 399 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: in that thing off. But my understanding is the cap 400 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: that is like the I don't know, I've heard some 401 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: people now call it engine cap. Some it's like water 402 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: all that cap. But it's not the one that's on 403 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 1: top of the radiator, right, it's the one that's actually 404 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,959 Speaker 1: on the neck above the middle of the engine. Okay, 405 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: is very specific name for that cap. Well, yeah, to me, 406 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: it's a radiator cap. But I get it. They some 407 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: places call it a cooling cap. It's some it's it's 408 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: it's the cool and entry point. I'll put it that way. 409 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: It's the only way to put coolings in the system 410 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: because the radiator sealed. But I have to tell you, 411 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: taking that cap off, you know, unless you drain the 412 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 1: system down, unless you did some cooling system work. You're 413 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: not going to induce enough oxygen in the system at 414 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: all to to create an overheat. If there was coolant 415 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: up to the bottom of the neck when they took 416 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: the cap off, and there's coolant up to the bottom 417 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: of the neck after they put the cap back on, 418 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 1: that's not the issue. This car has a hydraulic cooling fan. 419 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: It's not an electric cooling fan. This car works a 420 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: little bit different. Do we do we do we know 421 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: if the cooling fan is coming on, and if so, 422 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 1: does it ever come on and run at high speed? 423 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: When that when the engine's overheating, that cooling fan should 424 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 1: be screaming. You know, you should be able to hear 425 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 1: that run or be able to see it run if 426 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: you lifted the hood. Well, my question is, is I 427 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: understood there with two fans on this because I've only 428 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: seen the inside of the engine wants and um. But 429 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: my understanding is that the fans that my daughter sees, 430 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: they come on as soon as she starts up the motor, 431 00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: So the fans are running all the time. That is 432 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: that it's a possibility. And I wondered about that if 433 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 1: if if the fans are truly running all the time, 434 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: that sounds like an issue. So so maybe maybe just 435 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: trying to be the Dutch uncle here. That's a good 436 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: word I'm using today. I don't know why, but maybe 437 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: this was just was the coincidence, this was we took 438 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: it in for an oil change. There's really an underlying issue, 439 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: and it happened to be a case of all these 440 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 1: guys touched at last, they must have broken. But that's 441 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: not really happened. And I'm not saying it is or isn't. 442 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to be the outsider. So well, I 443 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 1: haven't tried to blame it on them, so you know, 444 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 1: it's well, listen, you know what I think as human 445 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: beings where you know, there's an emotional factor with auto repair. 446 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: And I've said this for forty five years. I can 447 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 1: fix just about any car, but fixing the inside of 448 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: somebody's head is is tougher, you know, And everybody's got 449 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:54,719 Speaker 1: to be open minded and let's get to the bottom 450 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: of it. People always say, you know, what are you 451 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 1: gonna do about it? I don't know. I gotta get 452 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: to the bottom of it. Aunt what's wrong first, you know, 453 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 1: if it's something, if it's something that happens as a 454 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 1: result of a part we put on the car. Yeah, 455 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: of course we'll take care of it. But if it's 456 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: not related to it, then we're gonna talk about it. 457 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: You know. It's I try to be fair to both sides. 458 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 1: I treat people the way, and that's the way it's 459 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: got to be. That's whether you're buying a stake in 460 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 1: a restaurant or getting your car fixed, or you know, um, 461 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: stopping at a fast food place. Right, you get it, 462 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,439 Speaker 1: and you're like that, You're not a You're not an 463 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 1: unreasonable guy. I can tell um. I want to know, well, yeah, listen, 464 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: we can't go through life angry because it tends to 465 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 1: shorten our lives. Right, it's not good for us. It 466 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,120 Speaker 1: beats us up inside. Um, I want to know where 467 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: the cooling fans working correctly? You know, I can tell 468 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: you that the cool attempt sensor for the fans have 469 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: a habit of going bad, and if the system has 470 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: incorrect input or no input from the tempt sensor, it 471 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: will put the fans into default and they'll run all 472 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: the time. Now, that won't make it overheat. It shouldn't. 473 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: But do I have another problem? You don't. You don't 474 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: have the car there. Do you it's up by her? 475 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, it's like about four hours from me. 476 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: So does she have a mechanic up there? Yes? Okay, 477 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: so before we panic, all right, what do you what 478 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 1: have you said to the oil change guys anything? I 479 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 1: have nothing at this point. Okay, why don't we get 480 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: it diagnosed? You know, take it to her mechanic. Listen, 481 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: tell him the story. You know, maybe the guy in 482 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: the oil change place, maybe he caught a connector and 483 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 1: popped the connector off. Maybe you know, maybe something got 484 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: lodged into the fan blade and the motors trying to 485 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: turn it is stuck against something. And you know, I've 486 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: seen all kinds of weird things. Uh, you know, we 487 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,479 Speaker 1: actually had I'll tell you a story about a car 488 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: doctor mistake. You're ready, and you don't hear this often. 489 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: You've never heard this one before because I haven't told 490 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: it in years. And I just just dawned on me. 491 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: Probably the better part of thirty years ago. I had 492 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 1: a new mechanics starting and he was with me. Mark 493 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: was with me, probably two years young kid, and we 494 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: were working on a Toyota Selca and he left the 495 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: rag on top of the radiator support all right, and 496 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: he didn't make the mental note. You know, I'm I 497 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 1: tend to be like a doctor. No pun intended. If 498 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: I put something down, I remember I put it there, 499 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 1: and then I always go back looking for it so 500 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: I can account for it. He was running the car 501 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: because he had put a radiator in it, and radiator ran, 502 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 1: fans ran, everything seemed to be right. Butt in the car, Up, 503 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 1: let it go. Customer starts driving over the George Washington Bridge. 504 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: The next day they picked it up. They lived local 505 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: starts driving over the GW Bridge. The car sitting in traffic. 506 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: The car starts to overheat. Calls me up, says Ron. 507 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: Something's wrong, Yeah, nope, nope, no problem. His name was Ron, 508 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 1: also Ron, bring it back. Let me let me let's 509 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: see what's going on. You know, bad part, something go wrong. 510 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: The rag was jammed into the fan. When the fan 511 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 1: came on it, it sucked the fan. It's the rag. 512 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: The fan works so well. It sucked the rag off 513 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: the top of the radiator support, pulled it into the 514 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: fan assembly. It either shut off or drove like that 515 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:07,959 Speaker 1: for a little while, and then eventually worked its way 516 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: up to the point where that it got wedged between 517 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: the blade and the housing and it stopped. You know, 518 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: it still worked. I put a fan motor in the 519 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 1: car just because I wasn't sure. Mark learned a valuable lesson, 520 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: you know, I always I always told him that's them. 521 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 1: You know. Always make sure the patient doesn't jingle after 522 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,719 Speaker 1: you're doing doing done, doing surgery. Always account for your 523 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: tools and wherever you used on the job. You know, Um, 524 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: but it happens. It's human error. It wasn't malicious, it 525 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: wasn't intentional. Ron was a customer for another fifteen eighteen 526 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: years till they retired and moved to Florida. You know, 527 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 1: things happen, things go wrong, So let's find out what's 528 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: wrong first. Let's you know, let's let the mechanic diagnose it. 529 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: Common failures on this is the cool intempt sensor. UM 530 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: once in a while, a fan module. But you know, 531 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: maybe it's as simple as they were doing an oil 532 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: change and something got unclipped, unplugged, and it's gonna be 533 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 1: and we're done. And then again, maybe they be the 534 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: radiators at the boiling point where the radiators so old, 535 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: it's got so much crud in it. Maybe it's just 536 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 1: time you know, and I get it. It wasn't like 537 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 1: that before you took it in for the oil change. 538 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: But the two days prior before the oil change was 539 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 1: the temperature sixty degrees and the day the oil change 540 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 1: it went to five. And she was driving home and 541 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, now it's overheating. There's right, there's 542 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: there's a there's a hundred things this could be. We're 543 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: only we're only We're only at two all right, Um, 544 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: So one of my other questions would be where can 545 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: I get some reliable part numbers for like this water 546 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: outlet cap or whatever they call it, and the radiator 547 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: cap and even an overflow tank. Take a look of stuff. 548 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: Jump online and take a look at motor Red and 549 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: mote o Rad. Motor rad dot com I believe is 550 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: the website or just google motor Red. Motor Rad makes 551 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: oe like quality, very good stuff caps, thermostats, and they've 552 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: got a lot of information on their website and you 553 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: can probably look it up right there, either by illustration 554 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: or by application. Alright, motorad dot com. Do that. That 555 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: doesn't work, call me back, but I'm sure you'll find 556 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: it and call me back anyway, Chuck, I'm kind of 557 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: curious what made the overheat? I'm ring any in the 558 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: car doctor. We're back right after this brought Any in 559 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: the car doctor here. Let's get over and talk to 560 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: David in Kentucky. David, how can I help today? Hey? Ron, 561 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: how are you doing today? Yes, sir, you're very welcome. 562 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: How are you good? Good? My main question today, UM, 563 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: I'm twenty four years old. I'm I'm a newer car owner. UM. 564 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: I've I have a train that I've had for about 565 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: three three and a half years now. UM, I put 566 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: a lot of mileage on it. I do a lot 567 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: of traveling. So I've gone from miles up to forty 568 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: two and just under you know, three and a half years. Wow. 569 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: So I is just calling in, Yeah, yeah, I do 570 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: a lot of traveling, yes, sir. So my big question 571 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,959 Speaker 1: is obviously being uh somewhat of a newer car owner. UM, 572 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: I've never had any problems with the train. It's worked great. 573 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: I had an engine flush and transmission flushed about seventy 574 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,719 Speaker 1: five mile mark. Um. So I'm just kind of asking 575 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: to you, really, what kind of things do I need 576 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: to pay attention to? Maybe some maintenance things I need 577 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: to do to really keep her running great because I 578 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: know I'm gonna be paying on her for the next 579 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: four or five years. Yeah, sure, I get it. I 580 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: get it. Um. Obviously, the basics always start with filters. 581 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: You know, you're doing oil changes. When was the last 582 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: time I had an air filter? When was the last 583 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: time I had a cabin filter? Typically, and it sort 584 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: of depends on the environment and the climate that you're drawing, 585 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: But you'll see, you know, some places, you'll see air 586 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: filters in fifteen thousand miles, you'll see air filters in 587 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: thirty The important thing to consider is, you know, if 588 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: you change one, change the other. If your vehicle has 589 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: cabin air filter, change that when you change the air filter, 590 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: because the car's breathing the same dirty years as the 591 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: cabin and vice versas, so you can always tell by 592 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: looking at the two. UM cabin and air filters and 593 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: air filters are important. Spark plugs. Everybody forgets about spark plugs, 594 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: and part of the reason is because the cars run 595 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: so well today, the ignition systems are so efficient. You know, 596 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: I ever put plugs in your car, David, personally, I 597 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: have done, okay, So you know, if if you've had 598 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: the car since what miles did you buy the car 599 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: at right, So you've got you know, you're probably at 600 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: your at the one mark, you're probably fifty thousand miles 601 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: overdue spark plug life or suggested spark plug life. Now, 602 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: I also say you have to look. Car manufacturers are funny. 603 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: I've seen plugs be required at a hundred. I seem 604 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,959 Speaker 1: to be required at one twenty. I've even seen one fifty. 605 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: But regardless, if it is one fifty, you're right there. 606 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: If it's one of if it's one d or one twenty, 607 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: you're late. So a set of plugs will definitely help 608 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: the fact that it's not causing any issues yet. You 609 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: don't want to wait until it's a problem, all right, 610 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: because the system can compensate and you know, overcompensate for 611 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: Warren parts. So spark plugs, spark plugs, filters obviously, fluids, 612 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: drive line if it's wet, if it's liquid, and it 613 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: hasn't been changed in the last four or five years, 614 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: based on the molite you're doing change at all trans differential, 615 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: you know, if it's an all wheel drive, front axle, reactle, 616 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: whatever combination or level of vehicle this is or your 617 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: next one is you always want to think about fluids. 618 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: All fluids wear out. I don't care what a manufacturer says. 619 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: Manufacturers are trying to sell cars. That's your marketing departments 620 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: come in for the car that never breaks or needs 621 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: anything real world that's another story, all right. And then last, 622 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: think about fuel system maintenance. A good bottle of a 623 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: good fuel system cleaner. Berriman is one of the top 624 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: fuel system cleaners on the market today. Berriman Products dot 625 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: Com A can of the hest high energy solving technology 626 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: and the tank at the oil change or at at 627 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: at as at a philip once a month is a 628 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: great thing to do. And then Berriman also makes a 629 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: fuel injection cleaner kit that a mechanic can user you 630 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: can do in the driveway that will do a formal 631 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: carbon cleaning. Carbon deposits or death to the engines today 632 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: and doing a carbon cleaning, I've got a real great 633 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: how I fixed the car with a carbon clean story. 634 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: Maybe I'll tell that next week. I won't have time 635 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: this week, but you get it. Carbon cleaning is part 636 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: of it, all right. Bottom line is it's just basic maintenance. 637 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: It's not hard to do, it's just common sense. And 638 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 1: the thing is we all fall into the trap of 639 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: my car doesn't need anything, it's running good. You're actually 640 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: being proactive, And I find the proactive drivers are the 641 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: ones that drive the car the longest with the least 642 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: amount of problems. Just one word of one word of caution, 643 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: try and get a mechanic um on a consistent basis 644 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: to work on it. One cook in the kitchen usually 645 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: goes a long way. I'm run on any in the 646 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: car doctor. I'll be back right after this. Welcome back, 647 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: ran on any of the car doctor. Let's get out 648 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: to Facebook. We're looking at the Ron and any of 649 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 1: the car doctor facebook page. Bob writes, and hey, Ron, 650 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: what's your feeling on purchasing a low mileage previous rental 651 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: car from Hurts or any of the reputable rental agencies. 652 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 1: Many end up hitting the dealerships pre owned inventory anyway, 653 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: so purchasing directly from Hurts seems like a good purchase option. 654 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: Many have under thirty thousand miles and ore and a 655 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 1: transferable warranty. Do you have any thoughts, Bob, I got 656 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: lots of thoughts, and one of them is that this 657 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,800 Speaker 1: can work out to be a very good deal. Again, 658 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 1: it really depends on the vehicle. Okay, you want to 659 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: be sure of what you're buying. You want to have 660 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 1: a mechanic check it out. The fact that it's got 661 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: a warranty on it is excellent because if there is 662 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:52,879 Speaker 1: something calamitous that's going to happen, you're covered. Here's the downside, 663 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: and this is the I don't know part all right. People, 664 00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: from my experience, from my perspective, from my seat, can 665 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: be harder on a rental you know, the attitude is, hey, 666 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: it's not mine. I'm just trying to get from me 667 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: to be I don't really care. And while they can't 668 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: short change the maintenance, because the rental agency does do 669 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: the maintenance, Hurts, Um, Enterprise, Avis, all of them, they're 670 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 1: all excellent on their maintenance. They will do maintenance by 671 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 1: the book, per se. They can't account for who's driving 672 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: it and how they're driving it, all right, So you've 673 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 1: always got that as an issue as a possibility. Of course, 674 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: that can happen with any used card. So count on 675 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,839 Speaker 1: the maintenance, count on the fact that you know they 676 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 1: took proper care of it. And I just hope that 677 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: the universe brings you a good one. But I would 678 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,399 Speaker 1: definitely say it's something to look into. I appreciate the question, Bob. 679 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: I'm on anating in the card doctor. Thanks for stopping 680 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: by this time till the next time every time. Good 681 00:35:48,760 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you d