1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:01,360 Speaker 1: Music Saved Me. 2 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 2: Welcome to Music Save Me, the podcast where we dive 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 2: into the raw, real stories of artists who found their 4 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 2: lifeline in a melody, in a riff for a lyric 5 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 2: when everything else felt like it was just falling apart. 6 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 2: I'm your host, Lynn Hoffman, and today Lucky Us, we 7 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 2: are sitting down with someone whose journey hits especially close 8 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 2: to home for anyone who's ever felt like the world 9 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 2: was telling them that they couldn't make it. Travis Bolt 10 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 2: is the East Texas singer songwriter behind the powerful debut 11 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 2: album Burning Bridges. He grew up facing challenges that most 12 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 2: kids never have to even imagine. Diagnosed with Tourette syndrome 13 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 2: at the tender age of eleven, he dealt with ticks 14 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 2: that made everyday life tough. He dealt with bullying that 15 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: cut deep and worse, even doubts came from get this 16 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 2: teachers and doctors who told him that he would never 17 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 2: achieve his dreams. That's incredible and soul crushing. And then 18 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 2: Travis picked up a guitar and something remarkable happened. When 19 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: he played, and when he sang, his symptoms slowed, the 20 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,759 Speaker 2: tics quieted, the chaos, and his body and mind found 21 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 2: a rhythm and a calm. Music didn't just speak to 22 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 2: Travis Bolt, it literally camped his nervous system and gave 23 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: him a reason to keep going. He went on to 24 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 2: rack up over forty five million streams, open shows at 25 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 2: the Rhyme and Auditorium, touring Europe at the Country to 26 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 2: Country Festival, and releasing his most personal album yet, Burning Bridges. 27 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 2: Really amazing album that I feel blessed to have had 28 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 2: a chance to listen to before talking to you. It's 29 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 2: soulful rock, Americana country. I'm Lynn Hoffman and this is 30 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 2: Music Saved Me. And this is a conversation today with 31 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 2: a man whose story is the very definition of this show. 32 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 2: Travis Bolt is next on Music Save Me, Don't Go Anywhere. 33 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: Music Saved Me. Travis, Welcome to the show. 34 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 2: It's so great chatting with you, especially the conversation before 35 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 2: the show that was even more enlightening. 36 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 3: Thank you for that introduction, Len, that was that was beautiful. 37 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 2: Well, you're beautiful. I want to talk about when this 38 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 2: all sort of started. Take us back to when you 39 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 2: were first diagnosed with Tourette syndrome. You were just eleven. 40 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 2: What was life like for you? Before you found the 41 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 2: guitar and what changed the moment that music entered the 42 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: picture in your world? 43 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 3: Well, so as you can imagic. 44 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 4: I mean, I was in middle school, so you know, 45 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 4: I was dealing with you know, like you said, getting 46 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:31,399 Speaker 4: picked on, bullied, beat u, you know, all the stuff. 47 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 4: And I was just kind of getting into music because 48 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 4: you know, in middle school you got to be in 49 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 4: the band, right. So I was a bigger kid, you know, 50 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 4: I was pretty tunky. So I wanted to go in 51 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 4: and play drums. My dad bought me a drum kick 52 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 4: because I was really excited about playing drums and I 53 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 4: was practicing on it and I walked into the band 54 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 4: to pick an instrument and they saw me coming from 55 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 4: mile away and said, that's a tuba player right there. 56 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: Because you were a bigger kid. 57 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, because, yeah, I was a chucky. 58 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 4: So I ended up playing the tuba for like six years, 59 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 4: which I can probably still play it, to be honest 60 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 4: with you. 61 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:15,399 Speaker 3: Uh, But so I was I was overweight, had this 62 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 3: Turet's thing that I really didn't know much about. 63 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 4: I was just interrupting and getting in trouble and then 64 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 4: I played the tuba, so I had I had all 65 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,679 Speaker 4: three going for me, you know what I'm saying. And 66 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 4: uh so, yeah, it was rough. It was rough to 67 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 4: answer your question. You know, I was getting picked on, bullied, 68 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 4: beat up in the hallways and the bathroom all that stuff. 69 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 3: And it got to where. 70 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 4: My counselor at the time I was I was going 71 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 4: to a non school affiliated like therapist, and you know, 72 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,119 Speaker 4: thank God for my parents that got me. That kind 73 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 4: of helped, you know when I needed it, because I 74 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 4: didn't know. And they had said that my mom needed 75 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 4: to go to the school with me and like shadow 76 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 4: me for a while, and she had to take notes 77 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 4: for the doctors and like for the therapists and to 78 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 4: really dial in what's going on with me. So as 79 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 4: you can imagine, you know, that was. 80 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: Even worse than getting picked on, probably. 81 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 3: You know, but I mean it had to be done, 82 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 3: and you know, God bless her. I mean, she had 83 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 3: to do what she had to do. I didn't understand 84 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 3: it at the time because I was a kid. I 85 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 3: was like, oh, this is just sucks. It's making it worse. 86 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 4: But but no, she and she still got stacks of 87 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 4: those little ring binders of notes she had to take 88 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 4: and it's sad. 89 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 3: I went back and read them. I was like, man, shitw. 90 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 4: So So anyway, yeah, school schools too, and they were 91 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 4: taking me to a pediatric neurologist too, you know, as 92 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 4: you explained, did as much as they could do to help. 93 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 4: You know, I was on the placebo trials back in 94 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 4: the early two thousands, doing the experimental medication that I 95 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 4: got paid for at the end of the year, and 96 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 4: weight gain was a big side effect of some of 97 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 4: these medications, so it made it worse. 98 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 3: You know, we were talking about teeth. One of the 99 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 3: medications I. 100 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 4: Was on experimental wise was a liquid medication, and it 101 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 4: actually damaged all. 102 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 3: Of my enamel. Oh so moving. 103 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 4: Forward, no matter how well I tried to take care 104 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 4: of my teeth, they just didn't matter. 105 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, it didn't matter. There's no enamel. So it was 106 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 3: just they were just screwing up. 107 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: You know, you poor thing. 108 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 2: What a horrible ordeal at such a young age. 109 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 3: We made it. 110 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, well then you found music. How did you said 111 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: that playing guitar? 112 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 2: Speaking of the medication was the best medicine because you 113 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 2: tried all the other medicines. 114 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: When did that occur? When did you find that? 115 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 3: So I had a little less Paul Lotus. There's electric 116 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 3: guitars you size. 117 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 4: You can't see it on the stream, but it was 118 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 4: probably about like three like two and a half foot long. 119 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 4: It was a little guitar my parents got me when 120 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 4: I was a baby. I kind of played around on that. 121 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 4: But as I went through these trials, as I got older, 122 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 4: obviously was I was bigger and needed to a full 123 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 4: sized guitar. 124 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 3: I used some of that money. 125 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 4: It was like twelve hundred bucks. But when you're thirteen, 126 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 4: you know you're rich. 127 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: So that's a lot of money. 128 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 129 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 4: Yeah, I went and bought which looking back now, my 130 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 4: parents trying to raise, you know, three kids, and I 131 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 4: had twelve hundred bucks, so, you know, I wished I 132 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 4: would just give it to them, But I bought an 133 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 4: Xbox and a guitar. 134 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 3: I bought a Washburn Hollibody electric with it and. 135 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 4: Started going to these little bluegrass revival concerts with my grandparents. 136 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 4: They would take me to Quitman, Texas, a little place 137 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 4: called the Carol Green Civic Center every Saturday, and they 138 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 4: had a bluegrass thing and I'd sit back in the 139 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 4: back room with all the old men playing in circle, 140 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 4: you know, and they taught me how to pick real fast. 141 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 4: So that's where I kind of learned how to play guitar. 142 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 4: And just as I got older, you know, I bought 143 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 4: a couple of more guitars with money I was making 144 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 4: through high school and you know, a little jobs and things, 145 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 4: and I really honed it. And by the time I 146 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 4: left high school, I had you know, my sisters went 147 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 4: off to college. As soon as I graduated, I bought 148 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 4: a suburban and some speakers and just started. 149 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 3: Honky talking and I've been doing it. You're on tour, 150 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 3: Yeah I was. I was on my own tour. 151 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: Well, no, but what you what you said though, is 152 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: very important. You invested in yourself. 153 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I did, and your skill, and that's a that's 154 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 2: a pretty big deal. A lot of people, you know, 155 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 2: don't realize that if you invest in yourself sometimes it 156 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 2: does pay off. 157 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 4: I mean, it was fifteen years of doing that, you know, 158 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 4: it was. It was quite a long well, thirteen to 159 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 4: fifteen years gave or take, you know, before I was discovered. 160 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 2: So when you're deep in a song, what's actually happening 161 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 2: in your head, like physically or even emotionally when you're playing. 162 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 4: It's really more emotion than anything. As cliche as that sounds. 163 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 4: You know, Like if I'm singing something, it's not usually 164 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 4: just because oh it's a cool song, Like I'm playing 165 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 4: something because I resonate with it, right, So in my 166 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 4: own songs that I write, or the songs that I 167 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 4: co write with people, my touch is on it and 168 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 4: it's enough for me to get into my head about it. 169 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 4: So when I'm on stage singing these songs, even if 170 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 4: it's a cover song, it means a lot to me 171 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 4: in one way or another. I've went through whatever that 172 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 4: person went through at one point or another, so I 173 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 4: can really relate to it, and I feel like the 174 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 4: crowd can too. So when I'm singing on stage, I'm 175 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 4: really trying to I'm trying to feel the emotion, which 176 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 4: is not hard to do, but I'm also trying to 177 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 4: project that onto the audience and make them feel the 178 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 4: same thing. And I've done a really good job of that, 179 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 4: I think over the years, you know, really honing that 180 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 4: skill to where the audience can, you know, get the 181 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 4: goosebumps and get thrown back and be like wow. 182 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 3: You know. 183 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 4: I think that's why you know, single never tried cocaine 184 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 4: really hit a lot of people because that's that's that's 185 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 4: true heartbreak story. 186 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 3: You know a lot of people had been through it. It 187 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 3: wasn't just me, you know. 188 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 189 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, And that that went viral. 190 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 2: That was huge and and and it's a testament to 191 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 2: like you just said, how many people that song touched 192 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 2: because of what they went through in their life. 193 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: I'm curious just to backtrack a little. 194 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 2: Did you did you realize that the music was doing 195 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 2: something with your ailments? 196 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: How when did you realize that? How did that all 197 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 1: come about? 198 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 3: Early days? For sure? 199 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 4: I h I started realizing when I was really concentrating 200 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 4: on play. 201 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 3: And this goes back to when I was a kid 202 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 3: playing blue brass. 203 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 4: Your your mind's so busy, you know, trying to figure 204 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 4: out all the chords and like remember and where to 205 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 4: go next and all this stuff. And then you start 206 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 4: adding in lyrics. I mean that's a whole other animal. 207 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 4: You gotta not only play and do all this crazy stuff, 208 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 4: then you have to know where the words are going 209 00:09:56,360 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 4: in how to like phonetically Yeah, I think that's the 210 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 4: word more I'm smart. Come on, yeah, like put those 211 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 4: words where they go with the guitar. Right, So, your 212 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 4: mind's very busy. There's neurons firing off and stuff. So 213 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 4: what I've chalked it up to is your brain doesn't 214 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 4: have time to miss fire when it's that busy is 215 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 4: And I'm not a scientist. I have no idea if 216 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 4: that's the case or not. But that's the way I 217 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 4: kind of explain it to people. And you know, I 218 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 4: did partner with the Terrest Association of America and I 219 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 4: got to tell my story to some of the younger 220 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 4: kids coming up with it, like, you know, like I 221 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 4: was in middle school, which is very important to me 222 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 4: that they have somebody that has went through it. Yeah, 223 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 4: because like back when I was a kid, I didn't 224 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 4: have that. You know, I had a very good support 225 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 4: system at home, but I didn't have a musician tour 226 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 4: in the world saying hey, I have to wretch to 227 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 4: you can do whatever you want. 228 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 5: You know. 229 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 4: I want to be that voice for those kids, right, 230 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 4: So I really want to push h that anything artistic, 231 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 4: whether it's painting, playing guitar, singing, building, something like, whatever 232 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 4: it is, really helps more than any of the medicine 233 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 4: I ever took. 234 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 3: You know. 235 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that it would make sense. There's so 236 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 2: many different things that can you can have issues with 237 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 2: whether you're a veteran coming back from war with PTSD 238 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 2: and you need you know, those stories similar to yours 239 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 2: in the sense that when they had that time playing 240 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 2: the music or writing the music or creating or performing 241 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 2: and touring, they were so busy and focused on that 242 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 2: that they realized that the issue they were having was 243 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 2: sort of in the background. It was it wasn't affecting them. 244 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 2: And it's amazing that that can happen for you with music, 245 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 2: it really is. And it's great that you're out there 246 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,839 Speaker 2: doing what you're doing for kids too, because, like you said, 247 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 2: even just one kid listening to this right now who 248 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 2: suffers from Tourette's is like, wait what? And he had 249 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 2: forty five million streams and he's touring Europe and doing 250 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 2: all of these incredible things exactly. It's a huge component 251 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 2: of it. I want to talk about burning bridges. It 252 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 2: feels like a deeply confessional record. Songs like coming Home, 253 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 2: which came from the night you're I believe your ex 254 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 2: wife came. 255 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: Back after leaving you. 256 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 2: And how do you find the courage to put the 257 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 2: most painful chapters of your life, Travis directly into your music. 258 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: That's not easy. 259 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 4: No, it's it's it's not you know, and it you know, 260 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 4: I will say, it's part of the job, you know, 261 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 4: that's that's our responsible, our responsibility to do, you know 262 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 4: too for the audience. 263 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 3: For the fans and things. But for me, it's you know, 264 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 3: like some people journal, some people keep a diary or 265 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 3: a journal or things. 266 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 4: I have to get it out of here, like there's 267 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 4: no more room for any of that. 268 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 3: I can't. 269 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 4: I can't bottle it up and hold it in, so 270 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 4: so I write about it, right, and uh, being a singer, 271 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 4: I write songs. So whenever that happened that night, actually, 272 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 4: you know, as you can imagine, that was just a 273 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 4: there was a lot going on up up in the head. 274 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 4: And whenever I went inside finally I was awake. You know, 275 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 4: it's two thirty in the morning. By the time she left, 276 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 4: it was probably three something. I just sat on my couch, 277 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 4: grabbed my guitar and started just thinking back over everything 278 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 4: and like, you know why, you know, and I wrote, 279 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 4: I wrote coming Home. I wrote about three quarters of 280 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 4: it that night, you know. But yeah, songs like that 281 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 4: come from that real place, and I really want to 282 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 4: drive that home because you know, there's you know, with 283 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 4: all this AI stuff out there, people don't you know, 284 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 4: music's starting to lose its soul. I feel like, but 285 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 4: there is still real music like this out there, you know, people. 286 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 4: I'm not the only one that someone's ex showed up 287 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 4: at their house at two in the morning, you know. 288 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 4: So that song's out there for people that went through that, 289 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 4: and they could be like, man, here's a song can 290 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 4: listen to. And I try to do that with all 291 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 4: of my songs, you know, I really try to drive 292 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 4: that Like whatever I'm talking about, I really try to 293 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 4: make the point. 294 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 5: We'll be right back with more of the Music Save 295 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 5: Me Podcast. Welcome back to the Music Saved Me Podcast. 296 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 2: You said something upfront in your answer about responsibility, which 297 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 2: it's an interesting word because not everyone thinks the way 298 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 2: that you think. With your platform and having such tremendous 299 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 2: reach and so much power to be able to get 300 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 2: the word out there and to help people, how important 301 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 2: is it to you to not squander that responsibility? 302 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 3: Well? Highly important. 303 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 4: I mean, like I said, I feel a sense of 304 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 4: duty almost you know too, or if I have a 305 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 4: song like that in my head about something very important, 306 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 4: you know, because I am very lucky that I have 307 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 4: very good friends and family, a very awesome support system 308 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 4: through things like that. I'm actually sitting with one of 309 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 4: my best friends right now. You know, him and my 310 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 4: other friends and my family really brought me up out 311 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 4: of those dark places. But there's a lot of people 312 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 4: out there that went through the same thing that don't 313 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 4: have that support system. They don't have the people to 314 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 4: help them, and they can go to a very dark 315 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 4: place with some of this stuff. 316 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 3: It ain't easy. So having these kind of songs. 317 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 4: Out there so that someone going through those dark times 318 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 4: without any support can sit back and go, you know what, 319 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 4: someone is going through the same thing I'm going through, 320 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 4: and I'm going to listen to this and know that 321 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 4: I ain't the only one that's That's a big thing 322 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 4: to me, and that's why I said, I feel like 323 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 4: it's my responsibility even if it hurts to you know, 324 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 4: you write a song like coming Home and it goes 325 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 4: big and you have to sing at every show. You 326 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 4: know you're reliving that night you're like the rest of 327 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 4: your life. But that's okay, you know it is. 328 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 2: It's almost like when something good happens to you, even 329 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 2: if it's bad, and you can turn it into something good, 330 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 2: you need to share it from the highest rooftop with 331 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 2: everybody so that everybody knows. But that's what makes you 332 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 2: special though, because not everybody thinks that way. And sadly, 333 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 2: but thank goodness for people and musicians and artists like you. 334 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: You set up front. 335 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 2: You've been supporting the Tourette's Association of America, and you've 336 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 2: been sharing your story very publicly. What do you want 337 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 2: that kid who's listening right now, the one getting picked on, 338 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 2: maybe dealing with something nobody around them understands, to hear 339 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 2: and to know from you, Travis Bolt. 340 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 4: You know, I really want them to feel comfortable within 341 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 4: their own body and their own mind, knowing that no 342 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 4: matter what anyone says, no matter what the doctors tell you, 343 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 4: that you can always find your calling and nothing's going 344 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 4: to stop you. You know, whether it's music, whether it's 345 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 4: you know, you want to be an engineer, you know 346 00:16:56,040 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 4: anything you can get through all of that. You know, 347 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 4: people grow up. I have people all the time now, 348 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 4: the message of me. It hadn't happened in a while actually, 349 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 4: but I've had people message me back from school, you know, 350 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 4: from Facebook and things like that, and said, man, I 351 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 4: was terrible to you. You know, I hate that and 352 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 4: I won't apologize. You know that stuff's going to happen 353 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 4: to put these kids too, you know. I mean it's 354 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 4: tough because you're different, you know, but difference not always 355 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 4: a bad thing. A matter of fact, you know, it's 356 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 4: helped me be different in my career. You know, I'm 357 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 4: surrounded by millions of musicians and you know, I get 358 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 4: to tell my story and so it's almost like a superpower. 359 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 4: As as funny as that sounds, you know, it. 360 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 2: Doesn't sound funny at all. It's true. Being different isn't necessary. 361 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 2: Isn't a sentence of that means you're bad or you 362 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 2: should be marginalized and forgotten? 363 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 5: Right? 364 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 3: I mean yeah? 365 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,479 Speaker 4: So I mean to basically put a bullet point on 366 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 4: your question, is that I want that kid? Like if 367 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 4: I could go back in time and tell me this, 368 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 4: hold tight, stay strong. 369 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 3: You know you're going to do fine. 370 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 4: This stuff's not going to hold you back, and just 371 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 4: keep pushing through. Man, everything's going to be. 372 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 3: Going to be dope. 373 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: Dope Is that word coming back again? 374 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 3: I mean, I'll say I love it. 375 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: I think it's is it lit or something? 376 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 3: These days I didn't go that far. Now, I don't 377 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 3: put that. 378 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 2: No, I didn't, I don't even use that, never tried 379 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 2: cocaine went viral and opened obviously tremendous doors for you. 380 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 2: Obviously today now with Burning Bridges, it feels like you're 381 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 2: sort of planting a flag and saying, this is who 382 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 2: I really am, and I don't really. 383 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: Care what you think. What does it mean to you to. 384 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 2: Arrive at a record this personal, at this moment in 385 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 2: your career. It's pretty early on, you're just beginning. 386 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 4: I mean, I've felt like it's been a long time coming. 387 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 4: You know, Uh, this is you know, my last DP 388 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 4: was more surrounded by the divorce and the heartbreak and 389 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 4: I you know, being depressed in things. This album has 390 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 4: a few more you know, trickles of those sad songs 391 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 4: in there about different situations, not just me. You know. 392 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 4: Like I said, I've gotten to write with some amazing 393 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 4: people and put more stories into this stuff. So there's 394 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 4: still some heartbreak in the album, but I feel like 395 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 4: this album is a lot more redemptive. You know, the 396 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 4: songs on there about getting the negative people out of 397 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 4: your life, you know, the people you've been wasting your 398 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 4: time on. Whether that's friends, relationships, business, whatever, you know, 399 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 4: anything holding you back, anything holding me back is gone. 400 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 4: I ain't they ain't letting anything stop me. Now it's 401 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 4: it's it's rolling and it ain't gonna stop. So, uh, 402 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 4: you start weeding that out. So there's there's redemption in 403 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 4: this album, which is very import to me because now 404 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 4: I feel like I'm transitioning from you know, the sad, 405 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 4: depressed of like they never tried cocaine era into this 406 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,479 Speaker 4: new era where it's like, all right now now we're 407 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 4: starting to kick it up, We're starting to have fun. 408 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 4: The music's a lot more happy and and redemptive. 409 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think that's amazing. Travis. 410 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 2: I don't like to compare voices, and I don't know 411 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 2: how you feel about that at all, but I was 412 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 2: reading about you earlier. And for those of you who 413 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 2: haven't heard Travis Bolt's incredible vocal skills and music, forget it. 414 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:42,719 Speaker 2: The musicality is like other levels that I can't even explain. 415 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 2: It's just wonderful. Your voice is a cross between and 416 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 2: I didn't say this, but I read it. Chris Cornell 417 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 2: and Chris Stapleton, How did you feel when you read that? 418 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 2: And do you mind being compared to such incredible talent. 419 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 4: Oh it's very humbling to hear that that really, because 420 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 4: I mean, those are great, great artists, you know. To 421 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 4: be to be put on that level, it is an 422 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 4: extreme compliment, and you know. 423 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 3: It's fun. It's a lot to live up to. So 424 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 3: I really get I really got to keep pushing out here, 425 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 3: you know. 426 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta definitely and wasting my time. I happened 427 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 2: to catch the music video for that. My husband walked 428 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 2: in the room and he's like, wow, he reminds me 429 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 2: of Greg Oman and and I'm like, yeah, I've interviewed him, 430 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 2: by the way, and you do even your mannerisms, like 431 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 2: he was just such a lovely, wonderful person, just like you. 432 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,239 Speaker 2: So it's it's been a pleasure to meet you. 433 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 4: And yeah, it's been great, great to talk and meet 434 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 4: with you as well. I got my hair up today. 435 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 4: I didn't fix it. I was gonna ask. 436 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: I didn't know if it was under the hat or not. 437 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 4: But yeah, I've got really long hair, but I can 438 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 4: I can hide it really well. So uh yeah, whenever 439 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 4: I don't feel like doing all the blow drying and 440 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 4: the moose and I. 441 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,919 Speaker 1: Just do this, so wait, you don't have people for 442 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 1: that yet. 443 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 3: No, No, I got to sing a little better to 444 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 3: have a hair person thing. 445 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: I love that. 446 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 2: Oh you know what before I let you go. And 447 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 2: there's so much that goes on. When we talked earlier 448 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 2: about investing in yourself and you went and spent that 449 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 2: money on the guitar and the Xbox, which I was 450 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 2: guilty of as well, something that we don't really talk 451 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 2: about on the show in terms of being well, not 452 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 2: just the music, but the whole combination of coming from 453 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 2: somewhere making it and really surviving and thriving in the industry. 454 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 2: And then there's the other side of it, like you 455 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 2: want to be able to continue to maintain what you're 456 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 2: doing so you can help others. I mean, that's sort 457 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 2: of a driving thing within you, it sounds like, and 458 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 2: that will always be with you. I can't imagine somebody 459 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 2: like you getting on stage just to do it just 460 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 2: because you have to, because you really want to know. 461 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, that'd be the last day I ever got on 462 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 4: stage if that's the way I was feeling to promise. 463 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 2: You, right, And so there's so many things that go 464 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 2: along with this, especially like you with these young up 465 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 2: and coming phenomens, which I like to call. 466 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: Finance. 467 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 2: And I know this isn't really part of the music world, 468 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 2: but in a way, if you don't have everything all 469 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 2: wrapped up and you're taking care of yourself, how can 470 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 2: you help others? So I'm just curious, in this crazy 471 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,239 Speaker 2: world we live in, do you have anybody like that 472 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 2: that you talk to, Like, so when you start going 473 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 2: really gangbusters, do you know how to make sure that 474 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 2: that's there and lasts for you so that you can 475 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 2: continue to help others for the rest of your life. 476 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 2: I know that's a really convoluted I can accountant. 477 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 3: I guess that kind of helps manage things. 478 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean you have to have things like 479 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 4: that because you know, growing up with not a lot 480 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 4: of money, whenever you start coming into it, how do 481 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 4: you know, you don't know what you're doing, You have 482 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 4: no idea, and you know, the people that amass tremendous 483 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 4: amounts of wealth, which is not me at this point, 484 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 4: but the people that do. You have to learn how 485 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 4: to handle that. And I've learned this from my successful friends. 486 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 4: I have a lot of wealthy, successful friends, and I 487 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 4: talk to them all the time because I'm trying to 488 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 4: get the knowledge before I get to that point, and 489 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 4: so I know what I'm doing, because the last thing 490 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 4: you want to do is build this amazing career for yourself, 491 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 4: the successful. 492 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 3: And have that nest egg and then just blow it. 493 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 4: You know. 494 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 3: You see it a lot with people that win the lottery, you. 495 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 2: Know, yes, yeah, well, you know, I heard a statistics 496 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 2: not too long ago, and it really shocked me that 497 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 2: ninety nine percent of us are financially illiterate. So we're 498 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 2: all in the same basket. There isn't you know, there's 499 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 2: that one percent of genius that knows, but we really 500 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 2: weren't ever taught. 501 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,719 Speaker 4: It, teach it in school and you know, you know, 502 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 4: and if you're you know, if you grew up like 503 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 4: ninety percent of us, did you know your your family 504 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 4: and their parents and their parents and their parents going 505 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 4: way back, they never knew either. So it's like it's 506 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 4: it's just a revolving door, like someone's got to sit 507 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 4: down and learn that. But I mean, you have to 508 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 4: be in a position to even have to learn it, 509 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 4: you know, And I'm getting to that point, so you know, 510 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 4: I'm just excited. I can't wait to be able to, 511 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:15,239 Speaker 4: you know, help mom and dad help my sisters, more, 512 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 4: my nieces and nephews. Make sure everybody's comfortable like I'm 513 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,239 Speaker 4: you know, I love it all from music, all from 514 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 4: being told I'll never be able to do what I'm 515 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 4: doing right now, and I'm doing. 516 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: It so exactly. 517 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 2: And that's old saying oxygen mask on yourself first, then 518 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 2: you're able to help others. And that was the point 519 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 2: I was getting at, you know, not just to a 520 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 2: mass riches and be rich and all that. It was 521 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 2: more that you want to continue to be able to 522 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 2: give that message. But how can you do that if 523 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 2: you know things fall apart in other ways? So I 524 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 2: always wanted to sort of bridge that gap and someone 525 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 2: new like you, I just wanted to put it in 526 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 2: your head there because you know, I feel very maternal. 527 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I thank you for bringing it up. 528 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 4: I need to be reminded because I do enjoy them all, 529 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 4: so I need you to be careful. 530 00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: And it's like salespeople. 531 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of them that have a 532 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 2: lot to sell you, but you have to pick the 533 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 2: right one. So anyway, the best of luck to you 534 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,719 Speaker 2: with everything, Travis. Thank you so much for sharing your 535 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 2: story and coming on and being so open, not only 536 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 2: here but in your whole career, in your music, helping 537 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 2: people and come back and see us again. 538 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,479 Speaker 3: Well, thank you so much for having me on. It 539 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 3: was a blast and look forward to seeing y'all again. 540 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 2: Burning Bridges out now, please go get a copy. It's amazing. 541 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 2: You will not be disappointed. I'm Buzzsnight and thanks for 542 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 2: listening to Lynn Hoffman and the music. 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