Speaker 1: Take a deep breath in through your nose.
Speaker 2: Hold it.
Speaker 1: Now, release slowly again deep in helle hold release, repeating
Speaker 1: internally to yourself as you connect to my voice. I
Speaker 1: am deeply, deeply well. I I am deeply, deeply well.
Speaker 1: I am deeply wow. I'm Debbie Brown and this is
Speaker 1: the Deeply Well Podcast. Welcome to Deeply Well, a soft
Speaker 1: place to land on your journey. I'm Debbie Brown and
Speaker 1: this is a podcast for those that are curious, creative,
Speaker 1: and ready to expand on your journey of higher consciousness
Speaker 1: and self care. This is where we heal, this is
Speaker 1: where we become. Welcome to the show. My intention for
Speaker 1: this episode is to really dive into what it is
Speaker 1: to live with self mastery. I'm a big believer that
Speaker 1: being on this journey, there is always, always, always deeper
Speaker 1: to go, and that tends to be where once we
Speaker 1: surrender to it, some of the fun and the creativity
Speaker 1: can really come to life in the way that we
Speaker 1: choose to experience what it is being alive and experience
Speaker 1: our spiritual curriculum. Today's shoe I have a master I
Speaker 1: have an incredible, incredible guest joining us today. Leyla Delia
Speaker 1: is a best selling author, an educator, and a spiritual writer.
Speaker 1: She's a certified spiritual practitioner and the founder of Vibrate
Speaker 1: Higher Daily School. She is leading seekers to self empowerment
Speaker 1: and a life of more grace and high vibrations. Her
Speaker 1: best selling book, Vibrate Higher Daily, Live Your Power, spiritual writings, teaching, speaking,
Speaker 1: and social media presence are guiding seekers all around the
Speaker 1: globe on a journey back home to their empowered, higher
Speaker 1: potential whole selves. Through her lyrical and organic writing, teaching
Speaker 1: style and experiences, Layla en Liven spiritual seekers looking to
Speaker 1: live with more intuition, empowerment, higher purpose and vibrations, confidence, grace,
Speaker 1: and subconscious mind repro gramming. Her work is a response
Speaker 1: to her journey and to the current vibrational state of
Speaker 1: the world that we live in, navigate and journey through together,
Speaker 1: my sister, Welcome to the show, Leila.
Speaker 2: Thank you, sweet sister Devi for having me. I am
Speaker 2: so excited about this conversation, as I am all of ours.
Speaker 2: But this is in front of we be talking. Are
Speaker 2: we talking? Yes?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I so I so love that about us.
Speaker 1: Like you know, some people, it's just you were kind
Speaker 1: of like born to talk.
Speaker 2: To each other. I love that as perfect that is.
Speaker 2: That's it. Yeah, born to talk to each other. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'll look up sometimes like we'll be we'll be like
Speaker 1: chewing on some thoughts together, and I'll look up and
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, it's been three hours. We've been on
Speaker 1: the phone for three.
Speaker 2: Out easily and just flowing the entire time.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Leila, I've been I've been really looking forward
Speaker 1: to this conversation for so many reasons, but especially because
Speaker 1: you know, when I thought of this newest season of
Speaker 1: the podcast, those who been rocking with this show for
Speaker 1: the last three and a half four years that I've
Speaker 1: been doing it, everyone has been going so deep, at
Speaker 1: least from the responses I've been getting from those of
Speaker 1: you that that share, which I'm so grateful for those
Speaker 1: shares and the expansive feedback that you give for each episode.
Speaker 1: But I think we've reached a point for those that
Speaker 1: really connected to the journey seriously to find new ways,
Speaker 1: new tools, new techniques to go even deeper. And one
Speaker 1: of the things that especially you and I always talk
Speaker 1: about is surrendering to the understanding that even the things
Speaker 1: that you have mastered, there's deeper to go, there's new
Speaker 1: facets to see it through.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I think before we dive into all of that,
Speaker 1: I would love to start with saying, how is your
Speaker 1: spirit right now? What are you currently savoring in your life?
Speaker 2: Oh? I'm savoring slowing down, slow living and just being
Speaker 2: able to be in the process of the shift happening.
Speaker 2: And I'm going through an intense shift and I'm so
Speaker 2: present with it. I'm mothering myself through it. I'm my
Speaker 2: healer through it, I'm my nurse through it, my midwife
Speaker 2: through it, and I'm just being so hands on with
Speaker 2: myself at this moment, through this shift, and that process
Speaker 2: has made it such a completely such a completely different shift.
Speaker 2: So where it feels like, oh, my team is with me.
Speaker 2: You know when I say my team, my support team
Speaker 2: first off is me like all hands are on deck.
Speaker 2: And so it feels so grounding and good going through
Speaker 2: this shift. And I have you of course, you know,
Speaker 2: just having beautiful sisters to you know, to bounce thoughts
Speaker 2: and experience off of. It's really beautiful. So I'm savoring
Speaker 2: being able to slow down and journey and grace.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, something that that you shared with your community
Speaker 1: and you've talked about in your book is just you know,
Speaker 1: really being on this path for quite a while. You know,
Speaker 1: you came into your awakening, you came into your understanding
Speaker 1: that there was more, that there were more expansive ways
Speaker 1: of being alive, and you chose a path of service
Speaker 1: very early on. So a lot of you know, I
Speaker 1: think shifting is something that you probably have a lot
Speaker 1: of muscle memory in.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: It's like your a neat way of being is to
Speaker 1: kind of surrender to the feeling of that intuition guiding
Speaker 1: you towards something new, different, more when you are like
Speaker 1: in a moment like this, how do you know it's
Speaker 1: time to shift? How are you made aware that okay,
Speaker 1: there we grow again, you know, like this, let's lean
Speaker 1: into it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for me and almost I would probably say the
Speaker 2: person watching this right now, most of us. When your
Speaker 2: life feels the most wonky, when your life feels the
Speaker 2: most vulnerable, and when it feels like everything is like
Speaker 2: not working out, falling apart, that's exactly what's supposed to
Speaker 2: be happening. Because you're expanding, and so that that shell
Speaker 2: that you've been in, that container that has held you
Speaker 2: purposely has to expand out. It has to dissolve, it
Speaker 2: has to burst open. And so just going through the
Speaker 2: gravity of that, that's when I know every time and
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, okay, or if it hasn't happened a while,
Speaker 2: I can almost track it and clock it. Now, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: clock like clockwork. It's about time and another feeling. If
Speaker 2: you don't have that, it's like you have this immense
Speaker 2: amount of what can appear to be boredom where everything
Speaker 2: just seems to be like crickets, you know, just it's
Speaker 2: really like, Okay, I'm here, I'm existing. What's happening is
Speaker 2: that restlessness that kind of starts to creep in? It does,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, you know. And so that those
Speaker 2: two ways are how I know, yeah, yeah, and what
Speaker 2: does that process look like? And I want to get like, okay,
Speaker 2: let me start here. I remember like years ago I
Speaker 2: had gone probably ten years ago, I had gone to
Speaker 2: this event and Maryann Williamson was speaking, and at the
Speaker 2: time she said something that felt incredibly revolutionary to me.
Speaker 2: She was talking about how she approached feelings of depression,
Speaker 2: and she was saying that she recognized that it's just
Speaker 2: kind of you know, the warning signal that's letting you
Speaker 2: know that it's time to work on self, it's time
Speaker 2: to hermit, it's time to process. It doesn't have to
Speaker 2: always have some of the gravity to it that it's
Speaker 2: presented with always. And I remember she said that she
Speaker 2: would kind of like build herself a little cave almost
Speaker 2: like when she felt those feelings creep in, she'd say, Okay,
Speaker 2: let me stalk my fridge, let me get you know,
Speaker 2: let me clean everything. Let me get the things you
Speaker 2: know that bring me comfort nearby. And it just I
Speaker 2: remember the time that I heard that. That was incredibly
Speaker 2: powerful for me, and I began to approach every time
Speaker 2: I have an experience like you're talking about like that,
Speaker 2: and I say, all right, well, I'm a book, a
Speaker 2: spa appointment, have that on calendar ready to go.
Speaker 1: I'm going to have you know, I'm going to have
Speaker 1: the tools that I need nearby. I'm going to have
Speaker 1: you know, the oils, I'm going to have you know,
Speaker 1: the tinctures, all the things that I know my nervous
Speaker 1: system craves when it's under duress. And then I'm going
Speaker 1: to find things to kind of pack in my creativity.
Speaker 1: If I'm not really feeling inspired, let me leave some
Speaker 1: paper around with some colored pencils some you know, I
Speaker 1: like making collages. So let me like get a little
Speaker 1: stack of mags and some scissors. So for your process,
Speaker 1: what does that look like for you? And what are
Speaker 1: some ways that those listening can say, Oh, that's what
Speaker 1: that feeling is inside? Okay, how do I maximize this? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I get very very present, and when I say present,
Speaker 2: like all throughout the day, like I'm on, I'm and
Speaker 2: what I'm going through it because I understand my body
Speaker 2: is so sensitive and most of us are highly sensitive.
Speaker 2: Some times we don't realize it because we're tuning it
Speaker 2: out with other distractions in our life, which is another
Speaker 2: important conversation you know, of like the things that are
Speaker 2: taking away that sensitivity. That's so necessary, right, and so
Speaker 2: it's okay to feel, and so I allow myself to
Speaker 2: feel whatever is coming through, so I can know that
Speaker 2: a shift is happening. And it's just like a navigator,
Speaker 2: like being able to feel, you know, just the you know,
Speaker 2: the waves you know, you know, look at them and
Speaker 2: understand the weather that's coming in and being able to forecast.
Speaker 2: I need to do this, do that, like you say,
Speaker 2: So for me, I have to always turn to rest
Speaker 2: and I have to turn to body work. Massage is
Speaker 2: like yeah, like I just had the best chiatsu massage.
Speaker 2: This person was like rolling my body in ways I
Speaker 2: didn't even know it was possible, and it was like
Speaker 2: completely different right exactly. And I was like, resurrect me
Speaker 2: through this change I'm going through. And I because what
Speaker 2: can happen. What can happen is that it can feel
Speaker 2: like a midlife crisis or even a thing now called
Speaker 2: quarter life crisis, and it could feel like that, but
Speaker 2: then when you realize, oh, this is just another shifty
Speaker 2: you know, this is just another awakened or ascension, like
Speaker 2: whatever your language is for, it's it's something and we
Speaker 2: can't deny that these things happen, almost like milestones in
Speaker 2: our lives. And so just allowing myself to say, I
Speaker 2: know I'm headed for this milestone. What can I do
Speaker 2: to prepare? And another thing is having my toolbag flower essences.
Speaker 2: I keep them in my I joke a lot now
Speaker 2: like inner within myself because my purse looks so different
Speaker 2: now that it used to look like back in the day,
Speaker 2: and like now and I'm you know, I will and
Speaker 2: you know, like I've done this with you, Like we
Speaker 2: could be out at a function or you know, out
Speaker 2: of town or whatever, and I'm like, oh, I have this,
Speaker 2: and I have that. Pull out medicines and herbs and
Speaker 2: tinctures and it's just like it. It keeps me so grounded.
Speaker 2: So plant medicine. I stick with that. I stay with that.
Speaker 2: I listen to music that helps my brain waves be
Speaker 2: in a supportive space and create firm, healthy boundaries of
Speaker 2: not just energy from people, but things of like what
Speaker 2: can come into my eargate iGATE during this very vulnerable time,
Speaker 2: and knowing that it's a vulnerable time. And with that,
Speaker 2: if I'm in a vulnerable time, I really have to
Speaker 2: mother and be mindful of how I'm authoring my thoughts
Speaker 2: and my words and my beliefs during this time. And
Speaker 2: so I'm just so hands on. And so now I
Speaker 2: talk about in the book that become the chemist of
Speaker 2: your life, so that you can understand your life as
Speaker 2: your laboratory. And certain things together make potions, and certain
Speaker 2: compounds together are beautiful, but other compounds together are poisons
Speaker 2: and toxins. So just really understanding that and all this
Speaker 2: helps to inform how you take care of your vessel,
Speaker 2: which is carrying the gifts and this next expansion. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I love that so so much. One of my teachers
Speaker 2: kind of described it as like run experiments on yourself. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, like be willing to experiment with yourself, like
Speaker 2: even in those thoughts and actions, like if I made
Speaker 2: this decision differently, let's just see what could come, you know,
Speaker 2: and then kind of we get to adapt from there.
Speaker 2: Adapt That word is like, that's the word. That's the
Speaker 2: word adapt because it's gonna it's going to cause you
Speaker 2: to adapt so much.
Speaker 1: Something that that you were talking about, And this is
Speaker 1: something we really live by and talk about all the time.
Speaker 1: But I haven't talked about it too much on the
Speaker 1: show yet. You know, there's a lot of phrases that
Speaker 1: are getting thrown around a lot right now. A lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of people are like I'm an impath,
Speaker 1: I'm highly sensitive.
Speaker 2: A lot are. But it's also there are.
Speaker 1: Terms that I think are not always fully translated. And
Speaker 1: I would love to talk about that with you for
Speaker 1: a minute, because you and I are both empathic, and
Speaker 1: we are both like very highly sensitive, like very high
Speaker 1: Like we can't be in toxic rooms because we'll absorb
Speaker 1: the energy that's present, so you know one thing about
Speaker 1: you and I will pop up and we'll be in
Speaker 1: the mix, and then you won't hear from us for months. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: but you know that piece. That's something. When I first
Speaker 1: learned of that phrase early in my journey, I really
Speaker 1: rejected that label highly sensitive because I didn't fully understand
Speaker 1: what it meant, and as someone that had lived a
Speaker 1: life that I felt like, I don't look like the
Speaker 1: things that I've been through, so sometimes people assume things
Speaker 1: are easier than they've actually been. I really rejected that
Speaker 1: because I would say, I'm not sensitive. You don't know
Speaker 1: my life.
Speaker 2: Do you know what I've walked through?
Speaker 1: I'm not sensitive, And I didn't really understand that it
Speaker 1: meant like deep sensitivity of your physical body, like at
Speaker 1: a cellular level, the way that your body responds to stress,
Speaker 1: the way that your body responds to toxicity. But that
Speaker 1: alone is such a profound healing journey. When you can
Speaker 1: understand that you know some things that may be happening
Speaker 1: to you physically, spiritually, mentally, emotionally, there's a whole other
Speaker 1: category of experience you're having that could be massively different
Speaker 1: from other people. Yes, can we speak to that can
Speaker 1: you speak on what that journey is for you, kind
Speaker 1: of being someone that's highly sensitive, someone that is incredibly intuitive,
Speaker 1: and how you adapt your needs around that.
Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely was. It was helpful for me as well
Speaker 2: because I had language for what I was experiencing, and
Speaker 2: like the adage goes, name it to tame it, and
Speaker 2: so it helps to know, Okay, well, I have a
Speaker 2: sensitivity to stimuli, into energy, into people's fields, and even
Speaker 2: to people's thoughts, like I can. I can literally be
Speaker 2: in a room and feel someone's thoughts. But when I
Speaker 2: was younger, I didn't know what to do with that,
Speaker 2: like what are you growing up in the eighties and
Speaker 2: in night, Like yeah, there was just no context language,
Speaker 2: no language, no community, no support for any of this.
Speaker 2: So it kind of swept that swept under the rug.
Speaker 2: So we're our generation is the ones who were awakening
Speaker 2: to it in a way of like oh we're we're
Speaker 2: We brought the support online. So now this next generation
Speaker 2: and the generations to come, we'll have language forward and
Speaker 2: community and support and a path already paved to say
Speaker 2: it's okay to land here and to be like this.
Speaker 2: But I, for the life of me, I felt so
Speaker 2: awkward For a huge majority of my life. It was
Speaker 2: a lot of masking. It was a lot of fitting
Speaker 2: in because oh, no one else is feeling this, all right,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm just keeping it to myself. But at
Speaker 2: the same time, I'm reading the room. I know we
Speaker 2: shouldn't be here. I know I shouldn't be here for sure,
Speaker 2: but going along with it. So there's a lot of
Speaker 2: killing I had to do through even that type of
Speaker 2: thing of not being true to who I was because
Speaker 2: no one else could understand it. So I just kind
Speaker 2: of just buried it, right and so now, but living
Speaker 2: in that authenticity, authenticity and in my power with it
Speaker 2: changed the game. Like, I'm so happy that I claimed
Speaker 2: who I am and I'm proud of it. I'm happy,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm full of gratitude for being able to
Speaker 2: name like what I'm going through, and you know, even
Speaker 2: even on a deeper level of like recently finding out
Speaker 2: other things about myself of like, Okay, you're on the
Speaker 2: spectrum and it's okay, it's okay to be you know,
Speaker 2: high functioning and on the spectrum. And I never understood
Speaker 2: that before you I love you, Yeah, And so for
Speaker 2: me understanding, well, this is why you had that gift,
Speaker 2: This is why you had these feelings, this is why
Speaker 2: you could perceive things. This is why people didn't always
Speaker 2: understand you, and this is why you were misled or mislabeled.
Speaker 2: And you know, thinking back far as like kindergarten, you know,
Speaker 2: being put back in kindergarten because they didn't know what
Speaker 2: was wrong with me. But now that I understand that
Speaker 2: it wasn't anything wrong. It was just different, right, and
Speaker 2: it was just something different. And so being able to
Speaker 2: share that even in this space, this is my first time,
Speaker 2: as you know, sharing this publicly. But I'm at home here,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm at home here. My mother left the
Speaker 2: planet not knowing because I did have a later in life,
Speaker 2: as obviously, diagnosis of you know, of being on the spectrum.
Speaker 2: So it's different for me. And then you know, the
Speaker 2: way I see energy. I have a niece who also,
Speaker 2: you know, is on the autism spectrum, and she is
Speaker 2: such a joy to our family, and for so long
Speaker 2: I connected with her, you know, I connected with my
Speaker 2: niece on such a deep level. Now I was always like,
Speaker 2: this is my baby, this is my baby. But now
Speaker 2: I understand. Now I understand why a truly felt like that.
Speaker 2: So it gave me this new for one, a new identity,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, wow, cool is that? Like? I embrace it.
Speaker 2: You know, there was grief a little bit when I
Speaker 2: first found out to you know, because I was like,
Speaker 2: I went through denial of like there is absolutely no way,
Speaker 2: and then I had to understand what highly functioning meant.
Speaker 2: But also being careful of that word because anyone who's
Speaker 2: highly sensitive or who is on the spectrum or who
Speaker 2: is empathic people, because you can function sometimes at a
Speaker 2: high capacity, you're not given the grace to also have
Speaker 2: your sensitivities. And I think, you know, that's why a
Speaker 2: lot of people now want to remove the term highly
Speaker 2: functioning it comes to autism, because it sometimes gives people
Speaker 2: a false sense of you know, capacity, when sometimes it's
Speaker 2: not there. So so yeah, so just energy, being empathic,
Speaker 2: highly sensitives. I think that once you can realize whoever
Speaker 2: you are and however you identify, that it's okay and
Speaker 2: to just journey and grace and understand that this is
Speaker 2: how your unique spirit chose to be in this type
Speaker 2: of body this lifetime, and that body is necessary, that
Speaker 2: sensitivity is necessary, and learning how to master it one
Speaker 2: thing for me when I was younger, I was very
Speaker 2: highly reactive. My feelings would get hurt so easy. I
Speaker 2: would get triggered so easy, I would pop off so easy.
Speaker 2: I would just be like, Okay, this is what we're
Speaker 2: doing so easy, you know, match the energy so easy.
Speaker 2: And that was as you know, for my types, that's
Speaker 2: the absolute worst you could do is to match energy.
Speaker 2: Take even more on. So, you know, being able now
Speaker 2: to stay in the practice of mindfulness, vibration and meditation,
Speaker 2: all these things just really helped speak you know, to
Speaker 2: who and what that was, and you know, just the
Speaker 2: times that we're.
Speaker 1: In deeply well, I just really want to express, like
Speaker 1: how much, just how much I honor the gift that
Speaker 1: you are giving so many by choosing to share your
Speaker 1: experience right now, because this is a piece of things
Speaker 1: that are kind of I feel that, you know, these
Speaker 1: conversations around mental health and spiritual development have been really intensifying,
Speaker 1: especially since twenty twenty, but really in the life last
Speaker 1: couple of decades. For the ability for children to have
Speaker 1: diagnosises that are supportive to them being able to live
Speaker 1: a life that allows them to maximize their possibilities, and
Speaker 1: something that is happening right now is that there is
Speaker 1: a huge wave of Generation X and Generation and millennials
Speaker 1: that are getting very late diagnosises, and there are men
Speaker 1: and women across the country that are awakening to finding
Speaker 1: out that they have neurodivergence in a variety of ways,
Speaker 1: with many being you know what is at least right now,
Speaker 1: I think this is still the correct terminology. It's changing
Speaker 1: pretty rapidly, but being on the spectrum of autism and
Speaker 1: a lot of people are not getting that diagnosis, especially
Speaker 1: women and girls until now like thirties, forties, fifties, sixties,
Speaker 1: and it is it's so powerful to just have an
Speaker 1: understanding of who you are and who you've been, and
Speaker 1: to understand that so many of the things that you
Speaker 1: may have been fighting with yourself over in Wye or
Speaker 1: you know, reactions that you're having internally that other people
Speaker 1: aren't seeing, ways that you're trying to understand the world
Speaker 1: around you that other people are completely unaware of. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and to just know that you're perfectly designed and this
Speaker 1: whole time you just weren't giving the phrasing and you
Speaker 1: weren't giving the support to be able to be your
Speaker 1: full whole self, and so.
Speaker 2: I'm just so yeah, thank you, we are just yeah,
Speaker 2: it's your being your full whole self. Like that's if
Speaker 2: there was anything I could look back on, if anything,
Speaker 2: out of all the things I can regret of my past,
Speaker 2: that's the only one because everything else I understand was purpose,
Speaker 2: you know, it was prerequisite lessons, it was, it was
Speaker 2: boot camp. But not being able to be my full self,
Speaker 2: that's the one where I understand that that had the
Speaker 2: most impact for me, honestly, even over the trauma over
Speaker 2: domestic like like really over domestic violence, you know, over
Speaker 2: being lost in these streets, really like being turned out
Speaker 2: like in so many different ways, you know, through predator relationships.
Speaker 2: But it was not being able to be in my
Speaker 2: full self. And I know, had I had the language
Speaker 2: and the knowledge, there's no way I would have been
Speaker 2: you know, made a lot of the decisions that I
Speaker 2: made or put up with a lot that I put
Speaker 2: up with and not having like any type of guidance like, oh,
Speaker 2: there you go, you're out there, figure it out, you know,
Speaker 2: but we figured out. Like, thank goodness, I figured it out.
Speaker 2: And I give thanks for that survival mechanism that my
Speaker 2: soul came here with to just be thrown into the deep,
Speaker 2: you know, into the deep and teaching myself how to
Speaker 2: swim in it.
Speaker 1: M yeah, mmm, how does that feel in this moment?
Speaker 1: What is changing and shifting for you with just the
Speaker 1: deep and understanding of how your body and brain works.
Speaker 2: Yeah, A lot of it is this this new like
Speaker 2: I was saying when we began our conversation, this embodiment
Speaker 2: of mind dwelling Hiller has just completely like, Okay, now
Speaker 2: you're ready, right, and mothering myself now you're ready. Now
Speaker 2: you're ready to receive my love and my care. And
Speaker 2: so I have been loving myself and nurturing myself because
Speaker 2: my mother's not here, you know, she again she left
Speaker 2: this realm before she knew and I know she would
Speaker 2: be here holding space for me completely. And so my
Speaker 2: grandmother Layla as well, my grandmother Diglia as well. And
Speaker 2: so I think that for me, the number one thing
Speaker 2: that I was clear I had to do was to
Speaker 2: nurture and love myself and mother myself through it. So
Speaker 2: it's feeling very nurturing, and it's feeling very I'm learning
Speaker 2: myself through it. You know, there's probably still because it's fresh,
Speaker 2: you know, the awareness of it it's days where I'm like, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: this is why I'm seeing this like this, or this
Speaker 2: is this is what's happening, or this is why I
Speaker 2: need to do this, and I give thanks for And
Speaker 2: I know you said this to me in a conversation
Speaker 2: about being at a certain level to receive it. Now
Speaker 2: you know that I had done enough work to where
Speaker 2: this is the embodiment that I expect parents through that,
Speaker 2: and I'm grateful that I did that. Like I laid
Speaker 2: so much groundwork in healing and loving myself and knowing
Speaker 2: how to journey and grace and so the things that
Speaker 2: I wrote in this book, the things that I write, like,
Speaker 2: I really write from such a real place that it
Speaker 2: just it's they're like medicine words and they are words
Speaker 2: of They're not just words like oh I just have
Speaker 2: to write something to post online. No, this is like
Speaker 2: channeled intuitive words that are helping me, but also that
Speaker 2: I know that are helping other people as well. And
Speaker 2: so it's feeling very supported and I'm just so grateful
Speaker 2: because what I first found out, it was like WHOA
Speaker 2: like that that divine sacred whirlwind, that tornado, you know,
Speaker 2: like Dorothy and the Wiz like, Okay, where am I?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: What is this? So? Yeah, just finding this so in
Speaker 2: that movie The Wiz is just my ultimate favorite spiritual
Speaker 2: teaching movie. But yeah, just coming back home to myself. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and knowing that I was always home, but how and
Speaker 2: the awareness that I'm home is different.
Speaker 1: Now. What I'm hearing out what you're saying is like,
Speaker 1: oh does it.
Speaker 2: Nose break? I'm sorry? Okay, this like.
Speaker 1: Visual that I feel that I'm getting in everything that
Speaker 1: you're just saying is like also like when you come
Speaker 1: into new information about yourself and about your life, you know,
Speaker 1: there is a grief that flows with that, right like
Speaker 1: who would I have been if I had had the support?
Speaker 1: Who would I have been if I had known there
Speaker 1: was a different choice? Or you know, for all of us,
Speaker 1: I think there is this grief that can come in
Speaker 1: with some massive breakthroughs and shifts that come forward and on.
Speaker 1: You know, if we're looking at this through Yen and Yong,
Speaker 1: Light in the dark, dark in the light, continuously, continuously,
Speaker 1: there's always this balancing that happens cosmically where there's also
Speaker 1: this opportunity to really jump back into your path, into
Speaker 1: your past and heal those ages like to sit in
Speaker 1: thought and in meditation and prayer around pivotal moments in
Speaker 1: your life where you didn't have the information you have
Speaker 1: now and extend that grace then as you're walking through
Speaker 1: this part of your journey now and this new expansion.
Speaker 1: This just really define glorious uncovering. How has the healing
Speaker 1: felt in that for you? And is there opportunities that
Speaker 1: have been kind of presenting to like love that little Laila,
Speaker 1: like go back and hold that little Laila, or just
Speaker 1: experience even the creative gift that maybe weren't noticed or
Speaker 1: weren't appreciate it that were part of the way that
Speaker 1: you're designed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh absolutely, I would say all of the above.
Speaker 2: It's my son allows me to play and I it's
Speaker 2: something very interesting about our relationship because he brings out
Speaker 2: my inner child, and my inner child just has so
Speaker 2: much fun with him. And what started as me playing
Speaker 2: with him when he was a toddler in a way
Speaker 2: of showing him how to play. You know, just one
Speaker 2: day he was being really rough with his action figures,
Speaker 2: like me to them, and I was like, oh, I
Speaker 2: want to teach him in this moment, like how to
Speaker 2: be on a team, like how to work together, you know,
Speaker 2: like let's make what if your action heroes or he
Speaker 2: tells me not have to call them toys, their figures
Speaker 2: action figures, okay, And so so my politically correct as
Speaker 2: a boy mama got to be correct. So his action figures,
Speaker 2: like what if he learns how to work on a team,
Speaker 2: And so that was such a pivotal Yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: five minutes in, he was like a completely different having
Speaker 2: a completely different supportive experience with himself, right, And so
Speaker 2: in that moment while I was teaching him, I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: but this is fun, Like I was on the floor
Speaker 2: with him, and ever since that moment, I was so
Speaker 2: mindful of he needs play and I was already aware
Speaker 2: that little Layla, you know, is feeling some things about
Speaker 2: what she experienced when she was younger and not having
Speaker 2: full range to just be who she was. And so
Speaker 2: in that moment that feeling, I was like, I want
Speaker 2: to generate this more because he enjoyed it. I enjoyed it,
Speaker 2: And so we continue just have playtime together. And even
Speaker 2: till now he's fourteen now and we still do the
Speaker 2: same thing. Like our relationship is just so unique in
Speaker 2: a way of like we play I'm mama, you know, mama,
Speaker 2: you know number one. But we we play and that
Speaker 2: really allows me to just be free in who I am.
Speaker 2: So that is is having playtime my daughter as well,
Speaker 2: like we I get to really with her. My inner
Speaker 2: teenager is there with her and my young adult self
Speaker 2: and it's like I already got through mama phase and
Speaker 2: she's she's twenty five now, so it's like I can
Speaker 2: have India, so I can have I can have different
Speaker 2: levels of expression with her and with her. I'm aware
Speaker 2: that being able to be my younger self and mindful,
Speaker 2: like you're your younger self, but you're your mindful younger
Speaker 2: self is a good friend to her, you know, is
Speaker 2: a sister to her. And I'm so aware that at
Speaker 2: the same time, all these different things are going on
Speaker 2: and it's so multi dimensional and so in that way,
Speaker 2: I feel really fool And then as mama, they really
Speaker 2: are such supportive children, like they really are, like she
Speaker 2: she brings me tinctures. She you know, they give a
Speaker 2: sade like whatever isah. And this was even before the diagnosis,
Speaker 2: but it's it's like even now it's become like, oh,
Speaker 2: things make sense, you know. So we're feeling really together
Speaker 2: as a unit, really supportive as a unit. And I
Speaker 2: give thanks. I give so much thanks for the children
Speaker 2: that I incarnated onto this planet with like because they
Speaker 2: are they are such spiritual giants, and I'm so grateful
Speaker 2: that we recognize each other and we said, okay, this
Speaker 2: is how we're going to do it this lifetime. But
Speaker 2: I'm clear that your soul is mastery. Your soul is mastery.
Speaker 2: So even that's how I parent, like, I'm not parent
Speaker 2: like you're you're a subservient. You know you you are
Speaker 2: a spiritual master and you incarnated as a child, my
Speaker 2: child this time, so I honor you. And it's just
Speaker 2: so beautiful to express that in family dynamics, and it's
Speaker 2: allowing me because I'm in this dynamic, in this this
Speaker 2: type of community at home, it feels so supportive. And
Speaker 2: it didn't always feel like that, you know, when I
Speaker 2: was younger, it was like who trying to figure it
Speaker 2: out and of course having spiritual spiritual spiritual giants in
Speaker 2: my life, but without that missing piece again, it was
Speaker 2: just like, you know, they did the best they could,
Speaker 2: and they did a really good job. I have to say,
Speaker 2: they did a really good job. Even you know, people
Speaker 2: in my family who I was at odds with for
Speaker 2: some reason of them judging me like you know, when
Speaker 2: I went on my healing journey, or when I was
Speaker 2: awkward and different, like they did a really good job
Speaker 2: and making me not feel okay with myself because that
Speaker 2: really was also in the pot of like why I'm
Speaker 2: going on self discovery. You know, I'm not okay agreeing
Speaker 2: with you that I'm different and awkward right now. I
Speaker 2: know why they saw something different in me, but none
Speaker 2: of us had the language. So I have compassion. You know,
Speaker 2: none of us understood why, and none of us understood
Speaker 2: why I thought the way I So I have compassion
Speaker 2: for them. And to this day, which so interesting, is
Speaker 2: that they're calling me for advice. They've been calling me
Speaker 2: for advice. They've come around. You know, it's completely loving.
Speaker 2: It was always loving, but you know, but it's like
Speaker 2: a deeper respect for who I am. And yeah that
Speaker 2: was before the diagnosis, you see. So it's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: your I just know that your gift carries you in
Speaker 2: places where you may not feel me now. You may
Speaker 2: not get it now, but it's going to make sense
Speaker 2: one day, right, Just give me time to get on
Speaker 2: my journey to heal, to get past some things, to
Speaker 2: set my life up how it needs to be, and
Speaker 2: you'll see exactly who I am. But in the meantime,
Speaker 2: I don't have to prove anything to you, you know.
Speaker 2: And that's where, yeah, Oh, that was the most powerful
Speaker 2: thing that I could have done, is like let them go,
Speaker 2: like release anyone who made me feel like I was awkward,
Speaker 2: I was different, I was defiant, whatever it was, and
Speaker 2: just to keep moving on my journey. And the more
Speaker 2: I kept moving, it was like this handfull of me
Speaker 2: where that hand was so much more beautiful and it
Speaker 2: was just so healing and cathartic for me that I
Speaker 2: kept going towards that and away from this other energy,
Speaker 2: whether it was friends, family, whoever was relationships, And that's
Speaker 2: like I just wanted more of that in my life.
Speaker 2: And I'm still moving towards that, this divine guidance, Like
Speaker 2: I'm still moving towards there, and so I feel like
Speaker 2: that's really what's informing and guiding me.
Speaker 1: Deeply. Wow, so many things to deepen in and what
Speaker 1: you just shared, you know, there's a couple of thoughts
Speaker 1: that were coming to me as you were talking. I
Speaker 1: was reading recently, I just loved the way that they
Speaker 1: phrased this, where they said, you know, even your even
Speaker 1: the villains in your life, have a gift for you. You know,
Speaker 1: both both your villains and your heroes in this story
Speaker 1: that you're living have gifts, you know. And to what
Speaker 1: you said, it's like that shift and awareness is so powerful,
Speaker 1: and depending on what the experience is, it doesn't always
Speaker 1: feel possible, and it could take many, many, many steps,
Speaker 1: surrenders and practicings to get to that point. But when
Speaker 1: we understand that, like everything is a catalyst to become
Speaker 1: even what we can perceive as the worst things. And
Speaker 1: that is not to minimize from some of the things
Speaker 1: that can be experienced, because there is a darkness on
Speaker 1: this planet, you know, everything. There are some experience and
Speaker 1: says that that some have that it's like that that
Speaker 1: can never be scrubbed clean. And I, my God, like.
Speaker 2: I get that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And with a lot of work and surrenderings, sometimes
Speaker 1: there are possibilities to relate to even the most devastating
Speaker 1: circumstances in a way that alleviates suffering for us, you know.
Speaker 1: And another thing I was thinking it, I remember I
Speaker 1: was doing I had.
Speaker 2: A really.
Speaker 1: Really painful experience with someone in my life that was
Speaker 1: in my life for a very long time. And you know,
Speaker 1: part of I understood immediately that I was being asked
Speaker 1: to be brought to a new depth of compassion, but
Speaker 1: it was still kind of like the balancing of that
Speaker 1: sacred rage mixed with For me, it was always I
Speaker 1: went directly to can passion and I would always kind
Speaker 1: of bypass the anger and things and so anyho. That
Speaker 1: was part of a long process. But I remember I
Speaker 1: was doing this Akashic records reading a long long time ago,
Speaker 1: and we were talking about in the spiritual world and
Speaker 1: on a karmic level, what that dynamic was between myself
Speaker 1: and that person. And they were like, yeah, but you
Speaker 1: both like really signed up for this and they were
Speaker 1: meant to teach you through pain last for that, and
Speaker 1: they had this visual of that actually meant it kind
Speaker 1: of really helped me on my journey to forgiveness and acceptance.
Speaker 1: And they said, when you get back to the spirit realm,
Speaker 1: you're going to give each other high fives, like the
Speaker 1: second you see that, once you both cross over, it's
Speaker 1: going to be like what we did it. And now
Speaker 1: that I'm so far removed from the pain points of
Speaker 1: that experience for me and the trauma of that experience.
Speaker 1: I am so grateful for that experience in a way
Speaker 1: that I still haven't amassed the words to convey, because
Speaker 1: I realized that for me and whatever I signed up
Speaker 1: for in this life, I could only learn it that way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And when I chose to learn it, and when I
Speaker 1: chose not to be kind of as Roomy would say,
Speaker 1: you know, in that field where there's no right or wrong.
Speaker 1: When I chose to not be in that field of
Speaker 1: judgment of assessing myself as the good person and them
Speaker 1: as the bad person in it, regardless of what the
Speaker 1: optics were, it freed me. It freed me to the
Speaker 1: depths of my soul and I can never forget that freedom.
Speaker 1: And so I look at that and I say God
Speaker 1: that I short of choose a rough way to learn it, but.
Speaker 2: Wow, thank you God for that learning.
Speaker 1: Ooh who I've become with that learning that part?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, because you're becoming something through it. And
Speaker 2: it's like when you can and now having the mindfulness
Speaker 2: and awareness and even the language for people maybe not
Speaker 2: now maybe going through something and they feel like what
Speaker 2: is going on? But if you can just hold onto
Speaker 2: who you're becoming in it, that's the medicine and that's
Speaker 2: what's going to change the game on how you come out.
Speaker 2: And that was that right there. Like when we're reactive,
Speaker 2: like how I used to be. I used to just
Speaker 2: be like okay, you know, just and when you're reactive,
Speaker 2: everything somebody does, every wind blow, every sound is like
Speaker 2: you're moving a different direction. That is not a way
Speaker 2: to live. It's so exhausting. And you don't deserve that,
Speaker 2: Like we deserve better. We deserve to be mindful in
Speaker 2: our situation and take our time through the chaos to
Speaker 2: understand what's going on, to understand like who this person,
Speaker 2: like to even give ourselves grace and time to understand. Okay,
Speaker 2: are the adversary, but I chose this. This is a lesson.
Speaker 2: I'm in such deep cover that I'm thinking you're really
Speaker 2: the enemy, but you're really the teacher, right, this is
Speaker 2: really a lesson and this not everyone is ready for
Speaker 2: this conversation though, you know, And it's a deep conversation
Speaker 2: of learning how to be human and how does the
Speaker 2: soul come into this human body and leave with compassion
Speaker 2: and love and life? Right and leave better, right, and
Speaker 2: then leave their energy signature on the earth, light and
Speaker 2: powerful and something that can be useful, purposeful. Right. But
Speaker 2: when we're ready for that conversation, our lives expand into
Speaker 2: a completely different place, and then we understand, oh, I
Speaker 2: have more power over my life than I realized. No
Speaker 2: matter how what cards are dealt, no matter what you know,
Speaker 2: how it looks on the onset, whatever this three D
Speaker 2: reality labels it as, or how it shows up, I
Speaker 2: have power. And that's what's important about it, you know.
Speaker 2: And that goes to what we were saying. You don't
Speaker 2: once you get to there, you don't look like what
Speaker 2: you've been through. Yeah, it's just like you start to
Speaker 2: embody this radiance and this light and wisdom. It's just
Speaker 2: it has a look. It has a look and a
Speaker 2: vibe in a film, you know, because I look at
Speaker 2: me post and then after whoof I mean it's funny
Speaker 2: because like what I thought was like back then and beautiful,
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I can see it now, you know,
Speaker 2: I can see her stress. You know, she was doing
Speaker 2: the best she could. I give her grace. But it's
Speaker 2: a look, you know, it's a it's a it's a
Speaker 2: whole thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she she showed up under duress, she showed up well,
Speaker 1: but in comparison to what's possible. Yeah, you really really
Speaker 1: really see that oof.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, especially when you say I'm letting it go,
Speaker 2: like I'm I'm no longer harboring like and holding that
Speaker 2: animosity and the energy.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I cannot die a thousand depths. Right,
Speaker 1: It's like you prolonged the injury. And also you know,
Speaker 1: like it was really coming forward, like the concept of
Speaker 1: being a divine co creator because we create even sometimes
Speaker 1: the harm. Right, It's like, what are we actively connecting
Speaker 1: ourselves to? What are we actively choosing to be in
Speaker 1: communion with? And I think that goes for literally everything,
Speaker 1: you know. I it's like you have to be so
Speaker 1: committed to fiercely editing like yourself, your life, your process
Speaker 1: at all times and surrendering detaching and saying okay, I'm
Speaker 1: going to let that go. I'm going to release that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: even sometimes holding on to the friendships, the relationships, the job,
Speaker 1: the this, the that. When you know there is a
Speaker 1: call to stop, you know there is a call to
Speaker 1: let something end, but you don't. At that point, you're
Speaker 1: creating your reality. You're co creating the pain in your life.
Speaker 1: You're co creating the distress in your life. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: it just it's all such a ripple effect. It has
Speaker 1: an effect on everything. It's not as simple as as
Speaker 1: trying to be stoic or saying all endure, all endure,
Speaker 1: it makes me righteous. It's like you're also killing your body.
Speaker 1: You know, women and men, especially especially women of color. Yeah,
Speaker 1: die a lot faster of a wide spectrum of diseases
Speaker 1: that don't typically happen to other people. And if you
Speaker 1: look into you know, the foundation of that person. A
Speaker 1: lot of times, it's not not creating freedom when you're
Speaker 1: called to for yourself. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's stress related, yeah, and toxic related and living
Speaker 2: a life that is not authentic to yourself. I can
Speaker 2: relate to that in a way of I had my
Speaker 2: body and this is this is like this may take
Speaker 2: us in a different direction. I'm not sure, but what
Speaker 2: I do know is that when you do not live
Speaker 2: a life authentic to you, your body becomes successible, susceptible,
Speaker 2: susceptible to illness, to compromise. And it's so important to
Speaker 2: be in this vessel, in your authentic signature right. So
Speaker 2: it's not just like, oh, I'm authentic like it's it's
Speaker 2: a catchphrase. No, I have to be who I am.
Speaker 2: I have to live and breathe and eat and serve
Speaker 2: who I am. If not, I'm jeopardizing my body. It's
Speaker 2: compromising this vessel that I'm carrying the gift in and
Speaker 2: that I'm gonna can do it right.
Speaker 1: And I'm jeopardizing my purpose pose. I'm jeopardizing why I
Speaker 1: chose to come here, that I was called to do.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 1: It affects literally everything that that ability to moment by
Speaker 1: moment choose the higher choice, choose the higher awareness, and
Speaker 1: all the sikes practice. I'm not trying to overly simplify.
Speaker 1: It is a journey me all the way. It is
Speaker 1: a journey. It is a journey, and no one is wrong.
Speaker 1: And journey and grace tell me how to do all
Speaker 1: of that right away, and journey and grace, Journey and
Speaker 1: grace all the way there.
Speaker 2: Because when you journey and grace and love yourself through it,
Speaker 2: like those days where you feel off, in those days
Speaker 2: you're like I missed the mark, Like yeah, they don't
Speaker 2: take you out. It's like journey and grace.
Speaker 1: And you repair in real time and real you know
Speaker 1: you're not affording things. There's not shame. It can just
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, I could have made a different choice
Speaker 1: and I didn't, and I accept that, and now I'll
Speaker 1: co create something.
Speaker 2: Else, something else, right, And that's that. Just hearing you
Speaker 2: say that feels so much lighter than taking a week
Speaker 2: or two to like really be heavy and just burdened
Speaker 2: with this energy or this knowing of like I missed
Speaker 2: the mark or it didn't happen like I thought it
Speaker 2: should happen. Like when you can just say, okay, let
Speaker 2: me reconfigure, let me be the can miss in the
Speaker 2: library laboratory, let me make some other things work, And
Speaker 2: it's like knowing how to shuffle things around and adapt
Speaker 2: that word you said earlier, like that that it literally
Speaker 2: is like adapting is just like the that's the word
Speaker 2: for earth. They gave us. They put that in you somewhere,
Speaker 2: so that unlocks something different levels unlock when you remember, oh,
Speaker 2: I have to adapt, like adapt and adjust, you know, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: they use that in the military, adapt and adjust, because
Speaker 2: it really is a form of survival.
Speaker 1: I feel like that is a superpower both of us have,
Speaker 1: Like we have high levels of adaptability. Yeah, Like and
Speaker 1: I think, you know in something that we explore this
Speaker 1: a lot in our friendship and in conversations, and I
Speaker 1: think it's something I explore personally a lot as well.
Speaker 1: But the ability to also be at peace with the
Speaker 1: fact that there are very logical circumstances that arise that,
Speaker 1: like life doesn't have to always be righteous, happy, good
Speaker 1: to also be worthy. And that's something that I feel
Speaker 1: really as I age, as I grow, especially you know,
Speaker 1: as a mother that is always looking through the facets
Speaker 1: of how do I translate this wisdom for my child
Speaker 1: in a way that's supportive to who he's becoming. You know,
Speaker 1: It's like that's something I'm really grateful for, Like I
Speaker 1: can have a really good day on a bad day.
Speaker 1: It's like it's this understanding we are constantly oscillating between
Speaker 1: grief and joy, between you know, challenge and freedom. It's
Speaker 1: all meant to be at play all the time. And
Speaker 1: when you kind of just adapt to that or at
Speaker 1: tune to that, you get to have like a more
Speaker 1: gentle sway as opposed to these really hard rocking back
Speaker 1: and forth, Like it doesn't have to be you know,
Speaker 1: the the ship in the ship in these you know,
Speaker 1: rocking against harsh waves. Yeah, it can kind of just
Speaker 1: how can I glide down this river because it's gonna
Speaker 1: go anyway. You know, all of this is going to
Speaker 1: happen anyway, So how do I alleviate my suffering? And
Speaker 1: I think the way you express it is so divine,
Speaker 1: which is journey and grace. Journey and grace.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to, like I I if there is
Speaker 3: just one thing I could like the last thing I
Speaker 3: ever wrote, Okay, yeah, that's that's deep to say.
Speaker 2: That's that's a lot to say. But it was a
Speaker 2: journey and grace just because that that's everything. Like, it
Speaker 2: helps you return to your lightness, It helps you return home,
Speaker 2: it helps you let go, it helps you detach. You know,
Speaker 2: it helps you remember who you are. That you're learning,
Speaker 2: you're growing, you're expanding, and that's the beautiful thing about
Speaker 2: you know, being on a level of learning, growing and
Speaker 2: ascending and transfiguring your life is like, oh, there's going
Speaker 2: to be different levels. I'm always going to be learning into,
Speaker 2: leaning into, expanding, stretching, breaking into and so and sometimes
Speaker 2: nudge sometimes thrown into you know, it can happen all
Speaker 2: kind of ways, and so yeah, that grace is just oh,
Speaker 2: it's medicine. It's just straight medicine.
Speaker 1: Because this Earth School is never going to run short
Speaker 1: on lessons everyone, that's.
Speaker 2: For sure, and always always showing up to teach, never
Speaker 2: a day off, never tell y'all. Yeah, Leila.
Speaker 1: The way that I love to end each show is
Speaker 1: by providing a little bit of soul work for the
Speaker 1: audience that resonates with this episode, something that they can
Speaker 1: deepen in. It could be an inquiry, it could be
Speaker 1: a practice, it could be a thought to savor, to
Speaker 1: chew on, and to explore until our next episode. So,
Speaker 1: my dearest Master Teacher sister, I would love to ask,
Speaker 1: considering the conversation that we just had, for those that
Speaker 1: are connecting to the sound of our voice right now,
Speaker 1: what is something What is an intention you'd like everyone
Speaker 1: to kind of deepen into over this next week or so.
Speaker 2: The intention that I would love for us to deepen
Speaker 2: into is to expand and expand, encourage and grace, because
Speaker 2: you're going to need both. There's a lot of things
Speaker 2: shifting right now on the planet, and it can feel
Speaker 2: like we're in a different universe and things don't feel
Speaker 2: the same and this is supposed to happen. You know,
Speaker 2: every big shift, this happens. And the shift is not
Speaker 2: just in culture. The shift is internally. The shift is spiritual.
Speaker 2: The shift is cosmic. It's planetary, but it's also there's
Speaker 2: a lot of light coming. We're moving through a photonic
Speaker 2: and so there's really there's a lot we're going through
Speaker 2: as literally as a planet. We're getting more light onto
Speaker 2: the planet now. So those of us who have allowed
Speaker 2: ourselves to be sensitive are going to pick up on this.
Speaker 2: So this is going to cause us now to have
Speaker 2: to write, now, show up a little more in our
Speaker 2: lives with courage. Now that courage may tell you you
Speaker 2: need courage to say out like you need courage to
Speaker 2: start to stop doing so much in your life. Right,
Speaker 2: And the person who resonates with that knows exactly what
Speaker 2: that is. Right, you're doing too much. Sit down and
Speaker 2: let life. It's time for you to receive. It's time
Speaker 2: for you to rest, it's time for you to heal. Right,
Speaker 2: it's time for you to get out of the way.
Speaker 2: It's time for you now to be still so things
Speaker 2: can happen for you the way they need to only
Speaker 2: when you're still. For others of us and I'm in
Speaker 2: this class. It's time to expand and do more and
Speaker 2: go and there's certain codes that are going to be
Speaker 2: awakened and you're going to receive more emotion. You need
Speaker 2: to be emotion more for here and you need to
Speaker 2: expand in this that right there is calling for courage.
Speaker 2: And courage is important because fear a lot of times
Speaker 2: is the teacher, you know, when when where it's time
Speaker 2: for us to show up and do more or do less,
Speaker 2: fear is telling us, well, you're not going to be
Speaker 2: as important if you're not speaking up and you know,
Speaker 2: you're not going to be seen in your power if
Speaker 2: you're not doing as much, or you're you're going to
Speaker 2: be judged if you're doing too much. So we have
Speaker 2: to be able to tell fear to behave and we
Speaker 2: go forward, you know, we go forward with our gifts,
Speaker 2: We go forward with the with the lessons and journey
Speaker 2: and grace on the days that you don't get it,
Speaker 2: so really make a mantra and really live into that
Speaker 2: prayer every day of courage and grace, like what this
Speaker 2: looks like for me in this moment, Courage to say
Speaker 2: yes and grace when I don't say yes or grace
Speaker 2: when I don't feel comfortable in it, knowing that you know,
Speaker 2: as I continue to move that the flow, it's going
Speaker 2: to sync up with me. And I'm you know where
Speaker 2: I'm supposed to be. I'll be guided there and expanded
Speaker 2: into that. But being obedient to spirit is just so important.
Speaker 2: And again that word obedience, Obedience, I say that in
Speaker 2: the most grandmotherly, loving, spiritual way possible, is just obedience
Speaker 2: to your higher self, obedience to your creator, Obedience to
Speaker 2: that beautiful gift that you carry, you know, into that
Speaker 2: body that needs healing and rests all of it, and
Speaker 2: that work in you that needs to go forth.
Speaker 1: Now right, So obedience to all of it.
Speaker 2: And just to say yes, I'm saying yes to courage
Speaker 2: and I'm saying yes to Grace.
Speaker 1: You may want to take a deep in hell in
Speaker 1: and out there and if that was really resonating, allow
Speaker 1: yourself to roll that over a couple times in your
Speaker 1: own body with your own voice. I am obedient to Courage,
Speaker 1: I am obedient to Grace. My heart is open to
Speaker 1: receive guidance. Supernatural healing has made its way into my life. MM.
Speaker 2: That was so beautiful.
Speaker 1: M thank you, thank you, thank you, thank.
Speaker 2: You, thank you, thank you, my beloved sweet sister. Thank
Speaker 2: you so much for this conversation. Thank you so much
Speaker 2: for having me. Thank you, I mean, m yeah, thank
Speaker 2: you so much. Thank you for everything that you were
Speaker 2: willing to share with us and for all the ways
Speaker 2: that I know it's just profoundly expanding. Everyone that heard
Speaker 2: your voice today, Wow, wow, wow m M.
Speaker 1: I know everyone knows where to find you, but head
Speaker 1: to Leila's instagram at Leiladelia, head to a bookstore near
Speaker 1: you if you haven't already. But I know most more
Speaker 1: than likely you have this beautiful bestselling book Vibrate Higher Daily,
Speaker 1: and you also have your community, the Vibrate Higher Community.
Speaker 1: So these things are really I mean, I know some
Speaker 1: people listening right now are like, yep, I know where
Speaker 1: my work is really consider you know, creating space that
Speaker 1: feels supportive to do that, and having more conversation with
Speaker 1: people that you resonate with. And maybe there are some
Speaker 1: terms that you heard us say on this show that
Speaker 1: it could be really worthy to dedicate an afternoon to
Speaker 1: some Google searches, to doing some deep dives, to going
Speaker 1: into different forums, to going into different instagram pages and
Speaker 1: just expanding your world and expanding what you know is
Speaker 1: possible for yourself. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, because we're guided, Like that's we're guiding each other home,
Speaker 2: you know, so hearing, you know, overhearing a conversation, and
Speaker 2: that's really what a podcast is. You're overhearing a conversation,
Speaker 2: you know. And I was like, oh, those words, that
Speaker 2: word popped out, you know, write it down, meditate on it,
Speaker 2: and the more like that one word, like if you heard.
Speaker 2: And this is one thing I can say as a
Speaker 2: writer is that pay attention to the words that catch
Speaker 2: your attention because when you go read that word, that
Speaker 2: word is going to open up a floodgate of other
Speaker 2: words and a conversation that can turn into some medicine
Speaker 2: and answers. So yeah, definitely, definitely. I love that you said.
Speaker 2: Google and research it, track it yeah yeah, track it yeah.
Speaker 1: Track it, follow it, and set intention for things to
Speaker 1: be revealed.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love you.
Speaker 2: I love you so much. Thank you so much for
Speaker 2: coming on the show. My honor, my honor, Thank you.
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