Speaker 1: So we're back with another episode of Separation Anxiety the podcast.
Speaker 1: I'm your host and Marcus Jordan.
Speaker 2: And I'm Larsa Pippen.
Speaker 1: And today we're going to be talking about a variety
Speaker 1: of things. But I feel like, yeah, and I feel
Speaker 1: like there's some interesting topics. But I think first let's
Speaker 1: talk about dating timeline. When you first meet somebody, when
Speaker 1: do you actually like meet up? Do you talk first
Speaker 1: or are you like the type of person that you
Speaker 1: want to meet it out in public for coffee? Like
Speaker 1: talk to me about you know, how you typically start
Speaker 1: dating somebody.
Speaker 2: I feel like I like to talk to someone on
Speaker 2: the phone for like a long time for sure. I
Speaker 2: like to know like who they are, what they think.
Speaker 2: I feel like I've spoken to like a few guys that,
Speaker 2: like on paper were great, and then as soon as
Speaker 2: I would talk to them on the phone, they would
Speaker 2: say things that I'm like, oh, that's a deal breaker,
Speaker 2: Like I just can't.
Speaker 1: I feel like you have a lot of deal breakers,
Speaker 1: Like I kind of do I feel like you can
Speaker 1: cut somebody off or like.
Speaker 2: Anything, Well, I mean not anything, but I just feel
Speaker 2: like there's certain things that I don't want to sign
Speaker 2: up for and I don't like to be in a
Speaker 2: situation where I don't like, I don't feel safe for sure.
Speaker 2: If I'm going to jump into the pool, I'd like
Speaker 2: to know the temperature and like how deep it is.
Speaker 2: I don't want to just jump into a situation with
Speaker 2: someone where I'm like unclear. But I will say I
Speaker 2: have caught myself in some situations where I'm like, what
Speaker 2: the hell was I thinking dating that person?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I feel like for me, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm I definitely spend a lot of time, like you know,
Speaker 1: getting to know somebody through the phone, but I feel
Speaker 1: like nothing serious can happen until you meet in person.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I'm big on like chemistry and like can we hold
Speaker 1: a conversation and like, you know, just do we have
Speaker 1: a lot of interests and so, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel like it varies for everybody, but I feel
Speaker 1: like my dating timeline is probably like talking, texting, getting
Speaker 1: to know each other, and then at some point, like
Speaker 1: I feel like just the anxiety builds up and you
Speaker 1: kind of want to meet the.
Speaker 2: Person you know, and most of the time it's like overrated. Yeah, time,
Speaker 2: it's like because I feel like I've talked to guys
Speaker 2: where I'm like, Oh, they're amazing, They're so great, and
Speaker 2: then as soon as I would hang out with them,
Speaker 2: I'd be like, oh, heck, no, this is so not
Speaker 2: for me. I can't sign up for this.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I feel like when I was in LA, the guys
Speaker 2: that were the guys that I was talking to in LA,
Speaker 2: I felt like it was like a lot of industry people.
Speaker 2: And I feel like, because you're so focused on their
Speaker 2: career and stuff that like the little things that matter
Speaker 2: to me probably like don't matter to them.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean I think, you know, again, I think we
Speaker 1: kind of talked about this on our last episode, but
Speaker 1: I do think your location kind of dictates you know
Speaker 1: who you might run into or who you might date,
Speaker 1: and you know what their priorities are, and so I
Speaker 1: feel like, I don't know, I feel like I've always
Speaker 1: like I'm needy, Yeah, and I always feel like I wasn't,
Speaker 1: you know. I feel like I can cater to people's needs,
Speaker 1: but I feel like I go with the flow and
Speaker 1: like pretty much take things as they come.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like you're really chill.
Speaker 1: I am very chill. I'm an optimistic guy. I like
Speaker 1: to experience things, you know.
Speaker 2: So I remember talking to a guy once and he
Speaker 2: like we were probably talking for two months. He lived
Speaker 2: out of the country, he lived in Dubai, and he
Speaker 2: was literally like probably the second conversation, third conversation we had,
Speaker 2: he was like, hey, so I would send you money
Speaker 2: every month. If I sent you two hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: thousand dollars, would you not talk to anyone anymore? And
Speaker 2: we had just started. I just met him on the phone,
Speaker 2: like I met him through a mutual friend. I'd never
Speaker 2: seen him before, but he just thought on paper like
Speaker 2: it would make sense because I was Middle Eastern, he
Speaker 2: was Middle Eastern. But he thought that like the money
Speaker 2: would make me not talk to other people. Yeah, And
Speaker 2: that to me was kind of like, I'm like, by
Speaker 2: the way, I don't even know if I like you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I feel like there are guys that
Speaker 1: are you know, a little aggressive or you know, might
Speaker 1: input their you know, beliefs on people. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I've never been that guy. I feel like people are
Speaker 1: going to do what they want to do no matter what,
Speaker 1: and so I try to be open minded in terms of,
Speaker 1: you know, everybody's personality, because yeah, I feel like, for example,
Speaker 1: like you're only I feel like some people feel like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, how could you dat a girl with
Speaker 1: only fans? And I feel like, you know, it's a
Speaker 1: thing that you do, is like business and in your independence,
Speaker 1: and I you know, I fully support it, whereas I
Speaker 1: feel like some people, you know, could maybe not be
Speaker 1: so supportive.
Speaker 2: So you know, my only fans is like it, there's
Speaker 2: like no fee to subscribe to my no trust me.
Speaker 3: I'm fully aware not It's.
Speaker 2: Not crazy, you guys. It's basically just my lifestyle. It's
Speaker 2: nothing crazy. It's anything that I would post on my Instagram.
Speaker 2: But I do feel like if you felt a type
Speaker 2: of way about it, I would definitely cancel it. We've
Speaker 2: had these conversations before where I'm just like, you know,
Speaker 2: it's fun for me to do, but if you weren't
Speaker 2: comfortable with it, then I would definitely, I feel like,
Speaker 2: get rid of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah I don't have a problem with him, but yeah, I'm.
Speaker 2: Just saying, like you, if you had a problem, I
Speaker 2: would get.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I appreciate that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely would want you to feel comfortable and
Speaker 2: good in a relationship.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you baby, And so talking going back to
Speaker 1: talking dating timeline, Like, how long do you think a
Speaker 1: person should wait before you hook up.
Speaker 2: I told you I'm big on like I want to
Speaker 2: talk to you a lot, so like I where I
Speaker 2: know everything about you, I know your friends, I know
Speaker 2: how you move, I know how you think before I
Speaker 2: even see you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I mean.
Speaker 2: I feel like my homie and then I don't feel
Speaker 2: like there's a new pressure and I say, hey, like, oh,
Speaker 2: you're going to be in LA. We should all meet up.
Speaker 2: And I'm more of like the group type thing, like
Speaker 2: I'm more like my friends will come and meet your
Speaker 2: friends and then we could all be friends.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I feel that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like.
Speaker 3: It's different for guys.
Speaker 2: I feel like, sure, I'm sure.
Speaker 1: Well, especially it depends it's situational, depends on like each situation.
Speaker 1: I feel like, if you've been talking on the phone
Speaker 1: or facetiming, then there's probably some sparks there or some chemistry.
Speaker 1: And so I feel like if by the time you
Speaker 1: meet up in person the first time, you.
Speaker 3: Know, I feel like you're trying to up.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's not necessarily out of the realm
Speaker 1: of possibilities. Not saying that okay, I go into a
Speaker 1: first date expecting to hook up. But I also feel
Speaker 1: like when I go into the first day, I know
Speaker 1: you a little bit through talking or whatever, and if
Speaker 1: there's chemistry there, I would welcome it. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: not ruling it out. I think that's what most guys think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I like to spend time with
Speaker 2: someone and kind of see how they are like in public,
Speaker 2: like what my friends think about them, Because I do
Speaker 2: feel like there's like a timeline, right, So like when
Speaker 2: I first meet someone, there's like, you know, if I
Speaker 2: like you, I'm not going to text you, I'm going
Speaker 2: to call you.
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I feel that.
Speaker 2: I'm like I want to hear your voice. I want
Speaker 2: to hear your tone because I feel like your tone
Speaker 2: has a lot to do with like the type of
Speaker 2: person you are. And then I want to say things
Speaker 2: you might not like to see how you respond.
Speaker 3: Really, I'll see you playing like my game, yeah.
Speaker 2: Because I feel like I'll just say some crazy stuff
Speaker 2: to see like, oh, like he would never accept that,
Speaker 2: like he's just crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you see, I never really was one.
Speaker 1: Like when I was dating, I always kind of girls
Speaker 1: would say, oh, you got game.
Speaker 2: Or you like you have a lot of game, by.
Speaker 1: The way, but I never I'm always honest and open.
Speaker 1: I'm never really spitting game Like I don't have like
Speaker 1: a strategy or a chest.
Speaker 2: No, it's just the way you are. That's just the way.
Speaker 1: It's just I don't know, that's just how I am.
Speaker 1: You know, It's just I don't know. I'm always honest.
Speaker 1: I feel like in you know, trying to be like forthcoming.
Speaker 2: I feel like only a lioness like me could take
Speaker 2: you down.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I would agree with that. I would agree
Speaker 3: with that.
Speaker 2: Like you, Yeah, you're kind of wild.
Speaker 3: And so okay, continuing on the topic of like the dating.
Speaker 2: Time texting a So, so I'm going to text you
Speaker 2: if we just meet, and then if I like the
Speaker 2: way you text, I'm going to call you. But I
Speaker 2: will tell you I had a crazy story about a
Speaker 2: guy that I was dating and he was from Chicago.
Speaker 2: So I don't know if the whole like where you're
Speaker 2: from has a lot to do with things. He's from Chicago.
Speaker 2: He actually married someone that I know. Okay, every time
Speaker 2: I would text him, he would I mean every time
Speaker 2: I would talk to him. First it started with the
Speaker 2: text messaging and he is like a business guy, super
Speaker 2: like nerdy, okay, But then when I would text him
Speaker 2: or call him, he would say like the craziest things
Speaker 2: to me, Like he would be just like, I've been
Speaker 2: thinking about your body all the time, and I'm like
Speaker 2: and then he'd be like he would just say like
Speaker 2: the things that I want to do to you, and
Speaker 2: it just turned me off so bad. I was like,
Speaker 2: this guy's a total idiot, Like I would never waste
Speaker 2: my time with him because he just was coming off
Speaker 2: so like aggressive. But if you saw him, Marcus, you
Speaker 2: would never believe.
Speaker 1: What about Has there ever been a situation where you
Speaker 1: liked the guy and that was like welcome? Then you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I think maybe you weren't.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's like a tennis match, so it's
Speaker 2: like it has to go back and forth. But if
Speaker 2: you're constantly saying physical, like you know, like sexual things
Speaker 2: to me and I'm not reciprocating back to you, then
Speaker 2: I feel like at some point it's like, dude, I'm
Speaker 2: not into that with you, Like we're trying to figure
Speaker 2: things out, but like that's not it, you know. And
Speaker 2: I feel like this guy, if you saw the way
Speaker 2: he looked like and the things he was saying, you'd
Speaker 2: be like, there's no way.
Speaker 1: Well, I do feel like that's like a gray area,
Speaker 1: you know, and especially as a guy, because like you
Speaker 1: don't as a man, you don't want to get depending
Speaker 1: on the situation, but you don't want to get put
Speaker 1: in the friend zone, right, And so I feel like
Speaker 1: there's like a thin line between like for play and
Speaker 1: sex thing versus like being too aggressive, you know.
Speaker 2: Because I feel like I put him on and my
Speaker 2: phone is pervert. I was like, he's a pervert. But
Speaker 2: you know, it's funny. He ended up marrying someone that
Speaker 2: I know and they look really happy. That's good, and
Speaker 2: I'm sure he's probably different with her. I think, would
Speaker 2: you date certain people, maybe they bring out a certain
Speaker 2: thing in you. Oh yeah, I don't know. If he
Speaker 2: just felt like I liked it, like I was that
Speaker 2: person that liked it, but I clearly did not. I
Speaker 2: was like, uh no, I'm not that girl.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, okay. So it's continuing on the dating timeline,
Speaker 1: like when do you think it's right because you said
Speaker 1: you like to meet people in groups or whatever, and
Speaker 1: so when do you think it's the right time to
Speaker 1: introduce somebody that you're dating to your kids.
Speaker 2: Well, I feel like from the time like we start
Speaker 2: hanging out as friends and my friends tell me they
Speaker 2: like you. Because I feel like I need like my friends.
Speaker 2: I kind of tell my friends a lot of things,
Speaker 2: and I don't know if that's good or bad because
Speaker 2: I know you don't love when I tell my friend's things.
Speaker 1: No, it doesn't bother me, just like I like person
Speaker 1: you feel me. I like in our business to us,
Speaker 1: but I feel.
Speaker 2: Like when there's hiccups and I feel like if they
Speaker 2: are your real friends and I only have like a
Speaker 2: couple of really good friends, I feel like I like
Speaker 2: to tell them when things are not like not perfect
Speaker 2: with us, because I want them to remind me. Like
Speaker 2: I like, if if you've done something to me that's
Speaker 2: hurt my feelings, I kind of want my friends to
Speaker 2: remind me that. So I'm like, Okay, so yeah, you
Speaker 2: did actually say that to me or you did do
Speaker 2: that to me, right, But I'm working on that. I
Speaker 2: feel like I do need to be more private because
Speaker 2: I am definitely like really open with like my friends
Speaker 2: and family.
Speaker 1: I just think I don't think that's a bad thing necessarily.
Speaker 1: I just feel like, you know, we come from different backgrounds.
Speaker 1: I feel like you always were from the notion of like, uh,
Speaker 1: like a big tribe, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, for us, we've always been
Speaker 1: private and you know, handle things within four walls, et cetera,
Speaker 1: et cetera. So I don't think it's a bad thing.
Speaker 1: I just think it's you know, that's where we differ sometimes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I feel like as far as hooking up
Speaker 2: with someone, I don't know if there's like a time
Speaker 2: frame for that because I feel like once you get
Speaker 2: to know someone on the phone and you spend time
Speaker 2: like talking to them about certain things, I feel like
Speaker 2: then like once you're comfortable and like as long as
Speaker 2: you're an adult, Like, have you.
Speaker 3: Ever hooked up with someone on the first day?
Speaker 2: No, When I think about it now, because I feel
Speaker 2: like I expect things.
Speaker 3: What does that mean?
Speaker 2: I just expect things like I expect you to be nice, sweet, everything.
Speaker 2: It's not like, yeah, my mind controls my body, my mind,
Speaker 2: and my heart. So if I'm not into it like
Speaker 2: my mind and heart, then I'm not going to hook
Speaker 2: up with you. It's just not I'm not going to
Speaker 2: be like oh so horny, I need to hook up
Speaker 2: with you. It's not happening.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I feel that. And so how about this.
Speaker 1: If sex is bad for the first time, let's say
Speaker 1: it's whatever I have. Of many dates, you finally have
Speaker 1: sex with somebody, it's terrible. Is there any hope for
Speaker 1: the relationship after that first bad hookup?
Speaker 2: I kind of feel like, I don't know, because I
Speaker 2: feel like, you know, it's I don't think so I
Speaker 2: think I.
Speaker 3: Feel like, yeah, I mean, I don't want to cut
Speaker 3: you off going.
Speaker 2: No, I don't know. I feel like this, like if
Speaker 2: I talk about this stuff like openly, I'm gonna get
Speaker 2: in trouble with my parents. So I'm just going to
Speaker 2: keep it ping.
Speaker 3: I feel that I don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel like sexual chemistry matters, you know, so if
Speaker 1: it's terrible, horrible, like like then throw it all away.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like it's like a big part of
Speaker 2: a relationship for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. I think it's a big part.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay, So let's talk about so from the time
Speaker 2: you hook up. Okay, there's like stages, right, So you
Speaker 2: hook up with someone, how long after before you introduce
Speaker 2: them to like your kids, and then like your because
Speaker 2: I feel like I would introduce someone first to my
Speaker 2: kids and then to my parents.
Speaker 1: Oh well, you know, I don't have kids. I think,
Speaker 1: you know, like you said, I when I'm dating somebody,
Speaker 1: I kind of like to bring them around my friends
Speaker 1: after a certain point of time, and then you know,
Speaker 1: if my friends like.
Speaker 3: Them, then maybe they'll you know, meet the parents. You know.
Speaker 1: Again, I don't I never really brought that many people
Speaker 1: back to my parents, you know.
Speaker 3: And so I just feel like.
Speaker 2: It's like three months, five months, because I feel like.
Speaker 3: I met your mom.
Speaker 2: I met your mom like what three months after we
Speaker 2: started it.
Speaker 1: I think it was something like that for months, something
Speaker 1: like that, something like that. Yeah, But I also feel
Speaker 1: like our situation was different just because it was so public,
Speaker 1: you know, and I wanted, you know, people to meet
Speaker 1: you in my family just because I feel like they
Speaker 1: don't know I hadn't really known you or met you,
Speaker 1: or you know, didn't know your personality, and so if
Speaker 1: we were going to be public and all in the news,
Speaker 1: I kind of wanted you to I.
Speaker 3: Wanted my family to know who I was running around with.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I feel like when I talk to someone,
Speaker 2: I feel like, for the first two weeks, I'm texting, calling, okay.
Speaker 2: Then I'm going to see you probably a month into it, okay,
Speaker 2: and then I'm going to probably introduce you to my kids.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know that many guys that
Speaker 2: have made it that far to be honest with you, because,
Speaker 2: like I said, I'm very critical of the conversations we have.
Speaker 2: I'm sure, and I feel like if you just say
Speaker 2: some crazy things, like you know, it's funny because I
Speaker 2: feel like when I've talked to guys and they've said, hey,
Speaker 2: I really like I feel like LA guys are like this,
Speaker 2: they'll be like, I really like an independent woman. If
Speaker 2: you say that, I'm not going to like you, even
Speaker 2: though I'm an independent woman, yeah, because I just feel
Speaker 2: like it means you're cheap. There's like some connotation in
Speaker 2: my brain that says you're cheap, even though like I've
Speaker 2: got my own everything and I don't need a man
Speaker 2: for anything. But I feel like if a guy says
Speaker 2: I'm really into independent women, no, I.
Speaker 1: Think it could be at least from my perspective. I
Speaker 1: feel like if a woman is independent, it doesn't necessarily
Speaker 1: need to be like, oh, we're splitting the bill.
Speaker 2: If you've never dated a guy that we're like if
Speaker 2: we're at dinner, and like, I have a friend actually
Speaker 2: that moved in with this guy in Miami and they
Speaker 2: were splitting the rent. They were splitting everything down the middle,
Speaker 2: to the point they were splitting their like Starbucks bill
Speaker 2: and she didn't even drink coffee.
Speaker 3: That's crazy.
Speaker 2: And so for me, I was like, that would not
Speaker 2: turn me on. He I would never hook up with him.
Speaker 2: That would just turn me off.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: And so going back to you know, the guy's perspective,
Speaker 1: I feel like dating an independent woman means kind of.
Speaker 3: Like she's got her stuff together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's you know, grinding towards some sort of goal,
Speaker 1: maybe a career at least.
Speaker 3: An hobby or interest, you know.
Speaker 1: And so I think you can be, you know, in
Speaker 1: search of an independent woman and not necessarily wanting somebody
Speaker 1: to split the bill with you.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 2: I like like the contributing factor. I like to be
Speaker 2: able to contribute to a lot of things, like vacations
Speaker 2: or like a home or something like that. But I
Speaker 2: just feel like if you were like literally expecting me
Speaker 2: to like split a Starbucks.
Speaker 1: Bill, yeah, no, I feel like, you know, sometimes women
Speaker 1: or a woman who's not working or who's up under
Speaker 1: you all the time can be a little annoying to
Speaker 1: a guy, you know, and it could come off as
Speaker 1: like needy or and so I just feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: when a guy's looking for an says he's looking for
Speaker 1: an independent woman, it could also be like, oh, she's
Speaker 1: you know, keeping herself busy. She's got her job, she's
Speaker 1: got a career, whatever it is that you know she's
Speaker 1: spending her time doing. But you know, I feel like
Speaker 1: guys like alone time sometimes, and so that's what dating
Speaker 1: an independent woman could bring.
Speaker 2: I guess I get it. Okay, So it doesn't mean
Speaker 2: they're cheap all the time when they say that.
Speaker 3: No, I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think it necessarily needs to be somebody is cheap.
Speaker 1: And so I guess you were kind of like alluding
Speaker 1: to another topic we were trying to discuss on this episode.
Speaker 1: And so this is talking money with your honey, and
Speaker 1: so I feel like this is a great segue.
Speaker 2: I love talking money with my honey exactly. I want
Speaker 2: to know everything. I feel like when we're dating, Like
Speaker 2: when you date someone, you should really ask like the
Speaker 2: most personal questions about your finances, Do you have any debt?
Speaker 2: I don't want to sign up for someone else's debt, right,
Speaker 2: And they're like, like, there's certain reasons why, like you
Speaker 2: would never marry some of these people.
Speaker 3: I feel like that comes later in the timeline of dating.
Speaker 2: Though, you know for sure, But I'm sayings.
Speaker 3: That happen and then you start getting into the weeds
Speaker 3: of for sure.
Speaker 2: But I definitely feel like a while before you're having
Speaker 2: these conversations about meeting each other's family, you should definitely
Speaker 2: talk about finances, for sure, and like what you're comfortable
Speaker 2: with and what everyone brings to the table.
Speaker 1: Because well, it's funny because I just feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: in a game. Maybe this is my old soul talking,
Speaker 1: but I'm always of the notion of like a guy
Speaker 1: should take care of his woman, you know, and so
Speaker 1: you know, whether that be dinner or whatever the case
Speaker 1: may be. But I feel like the guys should all
Speaker 1: ways pay and make sure his girl is all right.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: And so the question is, when both partners are well off,
Speaker 1: who should pay for dinner?
Speaker 2: You should?
Speaker 3: I think I do you do it?
Speaker 2: You do it? But no, I feel like it's good
Speaker 2: to contribute, you know, there's certain things. For instance, when
Speaker 2: we're there's.
Speaker 1: Times though, there's times though where we're out eating and
Speaker 1: you're like, no, I want to grab lunch, and yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a little fight we argue over it, but every
Speaker 1: now and then you've been successful at like buying a
Speaker 1: lunch or two.
Speaker 2: Well, I feel like everyone has to bring something to
Speaker 2: the table. Everyone has to contribute in some you know,
Speaker 2: some way. But it's funny before we before we shoot
Speaker 2: housewives or even this podcast, and I'm always running around
Speaker 2: like last minute, and I ask you to do certain things,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, Marcus, is the computer charge? Marcus? Like
Speaker 2: this and the certain things I expect you to do
Speaker 2: and your goal And you said to me before you
Speaker 2: said you're bossing me around.
Speaker 1: Well, I know what happens is I feel like you
Speaker 1: get a little bit of anxiety and anxiousness when it's
Speaker 1: time to like film or whatever, just because you want
Speaker 1: things to go.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you say things that are like overtly obvious,
Speaker 1: like okay, make.
Speaker 3: Sure the computers starts, like the computer is charged.
Speaker 1: You know, And so you just like to reiterate certain
Speaker 1: things as if like I'm not on top of them,
Speaker 1: even though that I am and so that's what I
Speaker 1: mean when I say, like, you get a little bossy
Speaker 1: when you're anxious.
Speaker 3: But it's cute. It's so cute. I just don't do
Speaker 3: I not laugh.
Speaker 2: I feel you laugh. But the funny thing is when
Speaker 2: we're okay, the funny The funny thing is when we're
Speaker 2: not doing that. I'm literally taking care of you all day.
Speaker 3: You do you do? You do a great job to
Speaker 3: take care of it.
Speaker 2: I literally bring you coffee or to bring coffee and
Speaker 2: make you breakfast even though I've got like calls during
Speaker 2: my calls. I'll have my business calls for like Larce
Speaker 2: Marie or a Lujo yeah, or just like anything that
Speaker 2: I'm going on my production meetings for housewives or whatever.
Speaker 2: But I'm still making you breakfast.
Speaker 3: You do you? Definitely? Then I ask you, I try
Speaker 3: to I try to clean up.
Speaker 2: I feel like you're maybe you're messy as hell.
Speaker 3: I am. I'm a little messy, but I feel like,
Speaker 3: if you're going.
Speaker 2: To cut at you, there's one thing about you, I
Speaker 2: feel like you're kind of messy.
Speaker 3: Definitely.
Speaker 1: I grew up not necessarily having to pick up after myself,
Speaker 1: and so I could say that translated a little bit
Speaker 1: into my adult years, but I am very grateful and
Speaker 1: thankful when you do cook, and so I try to
Speaker 1: do my part in terms of like taking out the
Speaker 1: trash and clean up the dishes. So you know, I'm
Speaker 1: not perfect, but I'm trying.
Speaker 2: Sure, you're actually amazing. I love everything that you do
Speaker 2: for me.
Speaker 3: And so is it a turnoff when a woman offers
Speaker 3: to pay?
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a turnoff. I think it's nice
Speaker 2: for a woman to offer to pay. I think, like
Speaker 2: I said, I think it's like, yeah, you want to
Speaker 2: be with someone that wants to give you back. I
Speaker 2: don't feel like anyone wants to be in a relationship
Speaker 2: where's one sided. Yeah, I feel like if you feel
Speaker 2: like you're being taken advantage of, then that's not going
Speaker 2: to be a good feeling for you. And I feel like,
Speaker 2: even like when I say, I like a man to
Speaker 2: take care of a woman, but at the same time,
Speaker 2: the woman's got to take care of a man too,
Speaker 2: and we all bring different you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I don't think it's I wouldn't say
Speaker 1: it's a turnoff necessarily. I feel like, you know, it's
Speaker 1: greatly appreciated if a woman offers to pay, but I'd
Speaker 1: rarely ever let that happen. I feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: thank you for the gesture, but you know I got
Speaker 1: this one.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I feel like you're good life and all of them.
Speaker 2: But but I do feel like you do appreciate like
Speaker 2: the things that like I do for you, or like
Speaker 2: a woman to do for a man, because I do
Speaker 2: feel like, you know, we all have to do our partner.
Speaker 3: My mama raised me with manners, you know.
Speaker 2: I know she really did.
Speaker 1: How about the vice versa? Is it a turn off
Speaker 1: when a man doesn't offer to pay. Let's say we
Speaker 1: go eat and I'm like, we're just sitting there. The
Speaker 1: check came and I'm like waiting for you to grab
Speaker 1: your card.
Speaker 2: Okay, We'll tell you a story to happen. I mean once, okay,
Speaker 2: I went my friend was in town. Okay, she wanted
Speaker 2: to go to a club in Miami. And when I
Speaker 2: go to clubs, I don't ever obviously pay for anything exactly.
Speaker 2: But she wanted to come, and she came with like
Speaker 2: a few people, like six guys. Oh wow, but it
Speaker 2: was like our hairdresser and her makeup art. It was
Speaker 2: like guy, but that's a deep crew.
Speaker 3: That's that's a deep crew.
Speaker 2: So I knew that we I knew that, like we couldn't.
Speaker 2: She couldn't just come to my table. So I had
Speaker 2: to go to her table, like we had to get
Speaker 2: a table. And I was dating this guy at the time,
Speaker 2: and the bill came for the table, and I think
Speaker 2: it was like eighty five hundred dollars or something, and
Speaker 2: he was like, I don't want to pay for your
Speaker 2: friend and all of her friends. Wow, And so obviously
Speaker 2: I split the bill with her that night, and that
Speaker 2: was crazy, well I but I couldn't be mad at
Speaker 2: him because I was like, I get it, like I
Speaker 2: had just started talking to him, and he was like
Speaker 2: not expecting to, Like he couldn't even bring his friends
Speaker 2: to the table because it was her and all her friends.
Speaker 2: And so I do remember feeling like I.
Speaker 3: Was so wait, the guy that you were dating.
Speaker 2: I wasn't really dating it me.
Speaker 1: Y'all went out together, y'all went to the club together. Yes,
Speaker 1: and your friend came with six guys.
Speaker 2: So normally, if I was going on, I would go
Speaker 2: to like the owner's table. I wouldn't like and I
Speaker 2: don't really I'm not like a big drinker. I'm having
Speaker 2: one drink drinks and I'm not staying all night. So
Speaker 2: I feel like, for me, it's not that serious. But
Speaker 2: she ended up coming with a bunch of people. We
Speaker 2: ended up going out and we had a great night.
Speaker 2: We had a great night. I love her so much.
Speaker 2: But the guy that I was with did it like
Speaker 2: he was just like, I'm like, I don't want to
Speaker 2: pay this bill, and I was like, yeah, no problem,
Speaker 2: Like I'll split it with her. So I split it
Speaker 2: with her. But and I wasn't mad at him because
Speaker 2: it was just like the situation, the circumstances.
Speaker 3: Okay, So was the guy were y'all dating or was
Speaker 3: it like friend vibes were you'll own?
Speaker 2: We were like in a situation where we just started
Speaker 2: talking and I thought he was cute and he thought
Speaker 2: I was cute. It was kind of like that we
Speaker 2: weren't like we hadn't we hadn't slept together or anything
Speaker 2: like that. It wasn't like he was my boyfriend or
Speaker 2: anything like that.
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know. I feel like I don't.
Speaker 2: Know whenever I paid that bill.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I feel like I feel like we've gone
Speaker 1: out times, and you know, I feel like maybe i've
Speaker 1: invited your friends or so and so to come along,
Speaker 1: and yeah, I pick up the bill most of them.
Speaker 2: I know, But I feel like I don't like my
Speaker 2: dude did like like be like to be taken advantage
Speaker 2: of either.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's more about taking advantage. I feel
Speaker 1: like it's you know, now, do I think the guy
Speaker 1: should have maybe had somebody somebody else should have chipped
Speaker 1: it not necessarily you I feel like because you didn't
Speaker 1: necessarily bring the large group.
Speaker 2: I feel like she should have paid the bill.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel like, if I'm hosting a group, even if
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily you know, all of my closest friends,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm definitely going in on the bill.
Speaker 2: Would agree. Yeah, I feel like you're really generous like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's you know, it's less about you know,
Speaker 1: who we're with, and is more about I feel like
Speaker 1: the venues that we go to, you know, they always
Speaker 1: have our back when we go, and so, you know,
Speaker 1: just trying to make sure we maintain you know, good
Speaker 1: service and security.
Speaker 2: I also feel like, like I said, it's about like
Speaker 2: the tennis match of give and take. Yeah, you got
Speaker 2: to give a take, you know, it's it can't be
Speaker 2: one sided than anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so I guess it doesn't turn you off,
Speaker 1: did you guy? Did you state that guy again?
Speaker 2: Nope?
Speaker 3: Well then it maybe turned you off a little bit.
Speaker 2: No, I don't. He just wasn't the vibe. He couldn't like.
Speaker 2: I just don't know. He just Okay, it didn't do
Speaker 2: it for me. Let's talk about intimacy.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's do it.
Speaker 2: So like the difference between men and women. So like
Speaker 2: you know, we were talking about, like in your mind,
Speaker 2: you don't feel like there's anything wrong with like hooking
Speaker 2: up with someone right away. Okay, I feel like for women,
Speaker 2: and I'm going to talk about me personally, I feel
Speaker 2: like I have to like really really like you, like
Speaker 2: have a connection with you, want to be with you.
Speaker 2: But I don't really see myself hooking up with people
Speaker 2: that I'm not going to be with.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's fair.
Speaker 2: Like I'm just not like that. I know guys are
Speaker 2: built like that. I'm just not built like that.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I think it depends on what stage
Speaker 1: of life you're in, you know, because.
Speaker 2: I feel like I was like that at twenty though,
Speaker 2: Like I always any guy that I liked I was like,
Speaker 2: could I be with him? Could I marry him? Do
Speaker 2: I see myself with him? It wasn't like, oh, he's
Speaker 2: so fine, I just want to be with him tonight.
Speaker 2: Like never that.
Speaker 1: Different strokes with different folks, you know, because I feel like,
Speaker 1: you know, when I was young and dating and single
Speaker 1: or whatever, there was definitely nights where I'm going out
Speaker 1: with my guys and it's like, Okay, anything goes. Not
Speaker 1: necessarily anything goes, but it's like we're looking for a
Speaker 1: group of girls, or you know, there's a group of
Speaker 1: girls that we're meeting out, and you know, whatever happens happens.
Speaker 3: But you know, I just think that.
Speaker 2: You probably even know their names. I mean, like I
Speaker 2: want your social Security number?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, I mean I feel like, you know, there's definitely
Speaker 1: a double standard when it comes to, you know, hooking
Speaker 1: up on the first date. Yeah, but I definitely think
Speaker 1: it happens a lot more than people give it credit for.
Speaker 2: No, for sure, yeah, for sure. But then I promise you, well,
Speaker 2: the girls that I know end up regretting it the
Speaker 2: next day because then you see the person and it's awkward.
Speaker 1: Well see, And that's always been a thing for me
Speaker 1: because it's like, you know, given who I am in
Speaker 1: this situation, you know, being Michael Jordan, someone whatever, I
Speaker 1: always I never wanted to put myself in.
Speaker 3: Like a gray area situation, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Obviously can sain it's a big deal and it's hard
Speaker 1: to gauge that on the first you know, first night
Speaker 1: hookup type of thing, and so it's definitely a gray area.
Speaker 1: But I feel like, you know, I've always played it
Speaker 1: safe when it comes to that situation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd have to, you have to. I kind of
Speaker 2: feel like any guy that I've actually been into, I
Speaker 2: can kind of like have him sprung in about seven days.
Speaker 2: I think in seven days you can really you can
Speaker 2: really have a man sprung in seven days a long time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I feel like if you're focused, seven days is a
Speaker 2: long time.
Speaker 3: I feel like that can go both ways.
Speaker 2: There's like an art to it. You have to really
Speaker 2: get down to the nitty gritty of like who they are.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, again, if there's that high
Speaker 1: level of attraction and wanting to be around each other
Speaker 1: twenty for seven, talking on the phone all the time,
Speaker 1: I feel like then you can kind of peel back
Speaker 1: the layers more easily. I feel like, you know, it's
Speaker 1: easier to fall in love in seven days versus you know,
Speaker 1: if you're not talking as much or not seeing each
Speaker 1: other as much. And I feel like it's okay in
Speaker 1: the early stages of dating to be like completely obsessed
Speaker 1: with somebody and trying to get to know them.
Speaker 2: I agree to, but I also feel like getting to
Speaker 2: know someone like emotionally or like even taking care of them,
Speaker 2: like cooking for them. Like I feel like that, I know,
Speaker 2: do you do you appreciate when I cook for you?
Speaker 3: I love it, Okay, I definitely appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: I just want to make sure I try to show.
Speaker 2: You that because I feel like when you're working, I
Speaker 2: always want to make sure that I'm taking care of you.
Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, are you good? Do you need something
Speaker 2: to drink? Can I get you something? Like, just to
Speaker 2: make sure that you're like in a good, done place
Speaker 2: so you can focus on.
Speaker 3: Work, for sure, And I think that's important.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I also feel like I always feel like whenever
Speaker 2: I'm in a situation, I always want the person to
Speaker 2: like be their best and make more money, be good,
Speaker 2: you know, like all the good stuff to support them
Speaker 2: and make sure that they feel good.
Speaker 3: I'll never go into a relationship with like a strategy.
Speaker 3: It's always right.
Speaker 2: Now for sure, right, No, I mean I don't. I
Speaker 2: don't go into anything like that either. To be honest
Speaker 2: with you, I kind of let it be what it's
Speaker 2: going to be.
Speaker 1: And it's like, do you have any girlfriends that do
Speaker 1: that that? Like, I mean, yeah, you know, there's like
Speaker 1: a playbook of.
Speaker 2: Well, I just feel like there moves. In order to
Speaker 2: like really get to someone, you have to like get
Speaker 2: to their emotional side for sure. Like I feel like
Speaker 2: you have to have deep conversations. You have to like
Speaker 2: get into their soul and find out like what makes
Speaker 2: them happy and what doesn't and what triggers them and
Speaker 2: what you know, because I feel like all of us
Speaker 2: are broken in some part, okay, And I feel like
Speaker 2: there's like certain people that know how to like like
Speaker 2: that make you better, yeah, and don't like they see
Speaker 2: the good in you, and they see that they can
Speaker 2: bring out the good in you. But that's a lot
Speaker 2: of work.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, there's a lot of work.
Speaker 2: And I feel like when you're in a relationship, like
Speaker 2: when you first meet someone, it's kind of like they
Speaker 2: all come with baggage. And when I say a baggage,
Speaker 2: it's like they come with like I don't know, they're
Speaker 2: talking to like ten people. They have some kids normally,
Speaker 2: so you got to deal with their the girlfriends that
Speaker 2: they had, You got to deal with their like baby moms.
Speaker 2: You got to deal with like all this stuff. And
Speaker 2: it's a lot of stuff. I bet, I bet, But
Speaker 2: I definitely feel like there's like art to dealing with
Speaker 2: like that whole situation.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, look, I've.
Speaker 2: Like the time frame is what I'm saying, Like, what's
Speaker 2: the time frame for when? Like because I feel like
Speaker 2: I gave you time too, Like when you date someone,
Speaker 2: you have to give them time to unload other people. Yeah,
Speaker 2: everyone has people.
Speaker 1: I feel like, Look, yeah, I feel like we were
Speaker 1: definitely talking for a long period of time, but then
Speaker 1: when we started dating, it was like, yeah, a gradual
Speaker 1: like Okay, cut this person out. You know, can't you
Speaker 1: can't keep be friends with everybody that you are with
Speaker 1: when you're single, you know, because I feel like when
Speaker 1: you're single, everybody's entertaining something, you know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: just because I feel like this human nature, but uh,
Speaker 1: you know, definitely. As you start to get in the
Speaker 1: committed and serious relationship, then people started dropping like flies.
Speaker 2: But you know what's funny, I feel like on Instagram,
Speaker 2: like I can't remember who I was with. I was
Speaker 2: dating someone and he literally went through my Instagram and
Speaker 2: n followed everybody, and I was like, and I was
Speaker 2: new to this because you know, I was like, I
Speaker 2: came from like a long relationship and I was like, no,
Speaker 2: don't know follow those people are my friends. And he
Speaker 2: was like, they offer you nothing. And by the way,
Speaker 2: when they start dating someone that they like, they'll unfollow you.
Speaker 2: And I was like fighting with this guy. And then
Speaker 2: as time went on on Instagram because like I just
Speaker 2: learned this that it happens all the time. So when
Speaker 2: guys start dating someone seriously, she will make them unfollow everyone,
Speaker 2: and so I learned that game. So I was like,
Speaker 2: by the way, if you like me, unfollow everyone, show
Speaker 2: me you love me, show me you like me, because
Speaker 2: I just feel like sometimes it's like a distraction and
Speaker 2: like it offers you nothing at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: like when you really think about it, Like all the
Speaker 2: people that I used to follow on Instagram and like
Speaker 2: all these fake people like they really offer you nothing.
Speaker 2: And I feel like I started noticing that, like, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm doing everything backwards, like I was a mom first
Speaker 2: and now I'm basically like where I was supposed to
Speaker 2: be a twenty one you know.
Speaker 3: True, So I do feel that.
Speaker 2: I feel like when I think about like my friends,
Speaker 2: there's so many fake fronts, like on Instagram, and like
Speaker 2: everyone's fake. Everyone like wants something from you. They're with
Speaker 2: you as long as you have something to offer them,
Speaker 2: and when you stop offering them things, they kind of vanish. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So it's like I don't mind on following anybody at
Speaker 2: this point because I feel like if you don't offer
Speaker 2: me anything where I feel good, you make me better,
Speaker 2: you know, you're doing something for my soul, or like
Speaker 2: you're really funny, like you got to be funny smart something.
Speaker 1: I feel like you go through phases with people, you know,
Speaker 1: and it's like sometimes you know, you might be hanging
Speaker 1: out with somebody for like a summer, but then it'll
Speaker 1: be years before you ever see them again, you know.
Speaker 1: And so what it sounds like is maybe you know
Speaker 1: you take stock of your friendships and relationships know pretty frequently,
Speaker 1: and you know you might cut a bitch off if.
Speaker 3: You have to.
Speaker 2: Now, I'm never like, I don't think I've really cut
Speaker 2: off a lot of people like that. As far as
Speaker 2: my friends, I feel like I'm very like if we
Speaker 2: spent time together, like like at any point, if like
Speaker 2: you came back into my life and you were like, hey,
Speaker 2: I hope everything's cool, like I'd always like respond obviously
Speaker 2: in life, yeah whatever, But I do feel like there's
Speaker 2: like a lot of fake people, like for.
Speaker 3: Sure, No, I feel that. I feel that.
Speaker 1: And so going back to can you win somebody over
Speaker 1: in seven days, which I think we both agree that
Speaker 1: can happen. Should the man be the only one texting
Speaker 1: and calling at the beginning of a relationship or should
Speaker 1: it go both ways?
Speaker 2: I think it should go both ways, But like I
Speaker 2: feel like the man should like determine like the relationship
Speaker 2: because I feel like a man has to really want
Speaker 2: the woman.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So do you like feeling pursued and like desired
Speaker 1: and you want a guy texting you twenty four to
Speaker 1: seven or do you want some space like to win
Speaker 1: you work?
Speaker 2: Like I think it depends on the guy, yeah, because
Speaker 2: I feel like I've had guys that like I feel like.
Speaker 3: When we started dating, we talked a lot. Yeah, it
Speaker 3: was a lot.
Speaker 1: And if we weren't texting, then we were on the
Speaker 1: phone or we were facetiming, like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I feel like the guy kind of
Speaker 2: does determine like this the relationship. I feel that, Like
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm being traditional in that aspect,
Speaker 2: but I do feel like the man kind of determines
Speaker 2: like if he wants the relationship.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I feel like it goes both ways.
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, because we talked about this before,
Speaker 1: about just like transaction relationships, and so I feel like
Speaker 1: there are times where being a single guy, you want
Speaker 1: like girls to hit you up, to feel like you're needed, Yeah,
Speaker 1: to feel like you're needed for certain things, like even
Speaker 1: if it's just going to the club or where we
Speaker 1: at on the weekend, you know what I'm saying. And so,
Speaker 1: you know, I think as you start to get into
Speaker 1: a more serious or slash committed relationship, then as a man,
Speaker 1: I feel like that can be viewed as like needy
Speaker 1: or like, you know, I feel like guys oftentimes want
Speaker 1: want that like constant communication, but at the same time
Speaker 1: want space early.
Speaker 3: In the relationship.
Speaker 2: Guys are confused.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just you guys are confused.
Speaker 1: I just feel like it goes both ways, you know,
Speaker 1: because like if somebody's too clingy or too needy, then
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get what you're saying. I do feel like
Speaker 2: there are certain relationships where like guys need a lot
Speaker 2: of attention from other women because they just feel like
Speaker 2: insecure and they just need they constantly need that. It's
Speaker 2: like a high for them, you know, like other women,
Speaker 2: other women. But at the end of the day, it's like,
Speaker 2: what do you really have nothing because it's all fake love. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you can't. You can't really like spread yourself out to
Speaker 2: everyone because if you were for everyone, you were really
Speaker 2: for no one.
Speaker 1: So on Instagram, we had a couple of ask us
Speaker 1: Anything questions, and so the first one was how do
Speaker 1: you guys handle public negativity?
Speaker 3: And so, babe, what would you say? How do you
Speaker 3: handle it?
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm not really phased by Like, I'm
Speaker 2: not really phased by negativity because I feel like I
Speaker 2: feel really good on the inside and I feel like
Speaker 2: the people that are I surround myself with like love
Speaker 2: me and I love them and I feel like I
Speaker 2: only want to bring positivity into their lives. And if
Speaker 2: you don't know me and you want to judge me
Speaker 2: based on like my hair color, based on who I'm with,
Speaker 2: or based on things that don't really matter to you,
Speaker 2: and you have so much, like you have such an
Speaker 2: opinion on my life, I feel like you must be miserable.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, most public negative comments come
Speaker 1: from like a lack of knowledge or basis, so it's
Speaker 1: like it's easy to write those things off. I think
Speaker 1: we both talk about like our Chicago Foundation and how
Speaker 1: we are both strong in that and words don't really
Speaker 1: affect us. So I just think, you know, we both
Speaker 1: roll with the punches and that we also have tight
Speaker 1: circles of friends who really know who we are, so
Speaker 1: it's like it's easy to lean on them versus you know,
Speaker 1: chasing public you know, exception.
Speaker 2: And I also feel like when I look at these
Speaker 2: people that are being super negative and like judge, they
Speaker 2: are the ones that live in the biggest glass box
Speaker 2: like glass houses.
Speaker 3: Yeah for sure, Like.
Speaker 2: What you live in a glasshouse and you're literally sitting
Speaker 2: here judging me seriously. Okay, So we talked about my
Speaker 2: only Founds briefly. Yeah, so how do you feel about
Speaker 2: my only Fans account? And would you ever want me
Speaker 2: to delete it? Because I would No.
Speaker 3: I mean, look, like I said, I don't have.
Speaker 2: An issue with you like it, but you don't really
Speaker 2: like it.
Speaker 3: No, I don't have a problem with it.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, as long as it it's makes
Speaker 1: no as long as it makes you happy and you
Speaker 1: enjoy it, and you know, look, I think it's a
Speaker 1: source of income for you, Like I would never want
Speaker 1: to you know, block your success or your you know,
Speaker 1: well being, and so you know, I think as long
Speaker 1: as you enjoy it.
Speaker 2: And by the way, his career, it's not good for
Speaker 2: business since I've been with.
Speaker 3: You, well, that's not that's not my fault. I don't
Speaker 3: blame me.
Speaker 2: Like literally, the people that write me on there are
Speaker 2: like not happy that I'm in a relationship with you.
Speaker 2: But it's fun.
Speaker 1: I think you still, you know, you you have your
Speaker 1: days when you post things and you keep it spicy
Speaker 1: on there.
Speaker 2: Me listen, it's fun and as long as you don't
Speaker 2: mind like I think me it's like fun and it's
Speaker 2: it's cool whatever. But if you didn't like it, I
Speaker 2: would definitely turn it off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just think you know, call it. You know,
Speaker 1: it is what it is.
Speaker 3: It is what it is.
Speaker 2: We talked a little bit about fake friends.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so tell us your experience with fake friends.
Speaker 2: You told me first, because I feel like you have
Speaker 2: your surrounded bus a little bit of fake friends too.
Speaker 1: Uh, not necessarily fake friends. I just feel like earlier
Speaker 1: in my like adulthood, you kind of had to weep
Speaker 1: through the bs, and I feel like a lot of people,
Speaker 1: you know, will like you think.
Speaker 2: Your friends are someone like You've told me people on Instagram.
Speaker 2: You're like, oh she dated my friends cousins, bartender, you
Speaker 2: like you're You're like, you reach so crazy sometimes and
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, and what does that have to do
Speaker 2: with you?
Speaker 1: Every now and then you ask me who so and
Speaker 1: so is on Instagram and I'd be like, look, that's
Speaker 1: my boys girl, or that's a friend of my friend.
Speaker 1: And so that's what I'm speaking to when I say
Speaker 1: when I said, when I say that, you know, you
Speaker 1: go through phases with people, Yeah, and so you know
Speaker 1: at some point that person might have been closer to
Speaker 1: me than they are now.
Speaker 3: And so you know, again, I think it's a it's
Speaker 3: a situational thing.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 3: Who are some of the rudest celebrities you've encountered?
Speaker 2: I don't really know. I don't really like I'm not
Speaker 2: one of those people that see someone like if I'm
Speaker 2: in the same room with them and I don't expect
Speaker 2: them to do anything say hi to me, I don't care.
Speaker 1: Like, no, no, I never really I feel like anytime
Speaker 1: I'm introduced to you more people, yeah, somebody, they kind
Speaker 1: of put their best foot forward anyway. So it's like
Speaker 1: I never really get that side of like, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I've never been.
Speaker 2: I will say this though, me being single versus me
Speaker 2: being married is different with women. That's like a topic.
Speaker 1: Actually being single versus you being married is different with women.
Speaker 1: Like women that you meet, well, I.
Speaker 2: Feel like yeah, because I feel like when you're married
Speaker 2: or with someone, I feel like women are going to
Speaker 2: be nicer to you and when.
Speaker 3: They don't feel threatened or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but when you're single, I feel like so many
Speaker 2: people don't want you around. It's the craziest thing.
Speaker 3: Women. Yeah, yeah, no, that's true.
Speaker 2: Women don't want you around. I feel like I experienced
Speaker 2: that in the NBA, like a lot. Really yeah, because
Speaker 2: I feel like they thought, like, you know, I think
Speaker 2: they just like assumed when like Scott and I broke up,
Speaker 2: like I don't know, they were just like threatened like
Speaker 2: i'd want their man, and I was like, honestly, I've
Speaker 2: seen what he put you through. Why would I want that?
Speaker 3: Yeah? True?
Speaker 2: And and for me, like I feel like when I've
Speaker 2: seen like a guy and girl together, if I've seen
Speaker 2: you together, I could never look at the guy as
Speaker 2: a single guy, even if they've broken up. I just
Speaker 2: kind of view that person as like, oh, that's so
Speaker 2: and So's dude. Yeah, Like I would never want to
Speaker 2: be with someone that like I knew their girlfriend or
Speaker 2: their wife or anything like that. I feel like for me,
Speaker 2: that's not like that doesn't turn me on.
Speaker 1: I feel that I feel that or the next Exs's
Speaker 1: anything question is Michael Jordan versus Lebron James. I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously I'm biased in this debate, but yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know my answer, there's only one goat, and it's
Speaker 1: obviously my dad. I think stat's kind of say that,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, But I don't think honestly
Speaker 1: you can kind of take people out of their generation
Speaker 1: and compare them to others. You know, I think each
Speaker 1: decade or generation has their own best player, but I
Speaker 1: think we can all agree on who, you know, the
Speaker 1: greatest of all time is at least, yeah, I can.
Speaker 1: And so the next question is how often will we
Speaker 1: see Marcus on the next season of Real Housewives in Miami.
Speaker 2: Well, you had to deal with your mom that you
Speaker 2: would only be on like one episode.
Speaker 3: I told my mom.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I said, like I would do three filming days
Speaker 1: whatever that ends up being. You know, I'm only doing
Speaker 1: it three times, And that was just out of support
Speaker 1: for you. And I think that definitely snowball. There's been
Speaker 1: more than three times I've been on on I've been miked.
Speaker 3: Up, I should say.
Speaker 2: I know, I kind of feel like it's fun to
Speaker 2: like shoot with you.
Speaker 1: It's I mean, obviously it's fun for me because I'm
Speaker 1: with you, but it's not something that I look forward
Speaker 1: to doing every week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I feel like it's you know, it's fun,
Speaker 2: it's with you, it's cool, it's fine.
Speaker 1: You know, there is a good cat there's like a
Speaker 1: good crew, and so they make it feel like very
Speaker 1: homie and like family vibes.
Speaker 3: But there's definitely a goal.
Speaker 1: To stir the pot, to stir the pot, and I'll
Speaker 1: let you do all the stirring, baby.
Speaker 2: I mean, I've always got a spoon in my bag.
Speaker 1: Okay, guys, it's time to see who's joining our block
Speaker 1: party this week. To the comment section, we go. Let's
Speaker 1: go all right, so comment number one, babe, go ahead
Speaker 1: read that.
Speaker 2: It says she'll be done with him within two years.
Speaker 3: So what's your thoughts on that?
Speaker 2: First of all, done with you. I'm just getting started.
Speaker 3: I think we're just getting started to baby.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like we really enjoy each other and
Speaker 2: we have a lot of fun together.
Speaker 3: We definitely blocking that person.
Speaker 2: We're definitely blocking that person. You have officially been invited
Speaker 2: to our block party for saying that, because we are
Speaker 2: in a happy place. And yeah, I feel like a
Speaker 2: year is gone by like so fast, and it's been
Speaker 2: like so much fun, and I feel like I don't, like,
Speaker 2: I don't want to put pressure on you and like
Speaker 2: on our relationship. Like as long as we both are
Speaker 2: having fun and like make each other feel good and
Speaker 2: sure make each other better than like, that's that's the goal.
Speaker 1: The next comment says, again wearing her daughter's clothes, and
Speaker 1: I feel like we've talked about this a little bit.
Speaker 3: You do like to wear some extra smalls.
Speaker 2: I do like to wear some extra smalls. Okay, so
Speaker 2: I am trying to change my fashion sense.
Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, this season, you kind of you
Speaker 1: bussed it up a little bit this season, you know what.
Speaker 2: I think? Like living in Miami, Like for me, I
Speaker 2: always like like to wear like not a lot of
Speaker 2: stuff and like to wear like shorts and like crop
Speaker 2: tops and like tank tops. So I don't know, I
Speaker 2: feel like it's just it's like my comfort place. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I feel like I can live in sweats all day,
Speaker 2: Like I love that.
Speaker 1: I feel like I love your fashion choices. I feel
Speaker 1: like you make some bold choices here and there. I
Speaker 1: definitely would like to see you step away from some
Speaker 1: of the extra small the extra smalls and the cutouts
Speaker 1: and the you know, I just out of fear of
Speaker 1: you know, people seeing the goodies. That's the only reason
Speaker 1: you look great and everything. Don't get me wrong, It's
Speaker 1: just I'm not trying to have anybody seeing my goodies.
Speaker 2: Okay, So then I'll definitely start dressing a little more.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you've been doing great.
Speaker 2: You've been doing I mean, but I also feel like
Speaker 2: you're like really helpful for me now because I feel
Speaker 2: like you definitely bring like something different because you have
Speaker 2: like really good tas and I feel like you helped
Speaker 2: me get dressed and pull my stuff together.
Speaker 3: We definitely, you know, we style each other from time
Speaker 3: to time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I really respect your Your fashion
Speaker 2: sounds damn.
Speaker 1: Another question is your mom going to be mad about
Speaker 1: breaking the three episode promise?
Speaker 3: I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I feel like my mom is kind of embracing day
Speaker 1: that day by day our relationship even more. She would
Speaker 1: obviously approves, But I feel like she listened to our
Speaker 1: second episode of the podcast today and she called.
Speaker 3: Me and she was like, oh my god, it's so cute.
Speaker 1: And she sent me like the emoji of eleven eggs
Speaker 1: and all of this stuff, and so she she spelled Marquisos.
Speaker 1: She said, no little Marquisos. She was obviously being playful,
Speaker 1: and so yeah, I think I think my mom's not
Speaker 1: going to be upset with me being in the show.
Speaker 1: I just feel like I.
Speaker 2: Feel like, you know, you're you're a smart, classy guy, Like,
Speaker 2: what are you going to do on the show. You're
Speaker 2: just sitting there like we'n we're dinners. We're basically doing
Speaker 2: normal things like on the show. It's not like you're
Speaker 2: going to be in any of the you know, the
Speaker 2: cat fights or whatever.
Speaker 3: Nah, definitely not.
Speaker 2: And I feel like I've been on my best behavior
Speaker 2: this because i feel like I'm in a really good place,
Speaker 2: like in my personal life. My kids are doing great,
Speaker 2: I'm happy. So I feel like I'm probably better like
Speaker 2: on the show. Like maybe not better for the show
Speaker 2: because I'm not as crazy, but I'm better on the
Speaker 2: show because I feel like it's just like I'm in
Speaker 2: a more like zen state of mind.
Speaker 3: I love that. Well.
Speaker 1: I think that's a wrap for this episode of Separation Anxiety.
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Speaker 2: Love you guys, Bye Peace,