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Speaker 3: I have a lot of questions about this man. I
Speaker 3: find him strange. I'm always suspicious of people who are
Speaker 3: a little too clean, too polished, and you don't really
Speaker 3: know who they are. He is said to be intelligent, refined,
Speaker 3: even elegant, and yet he spends his time roaming around
Speaker 3: the train station area. Why does a man like this
Speaker 3: hang out in a place like that? Why does he
Speaker 3: hang out there? And why does he become the confidant
Speaker 3: of all these women? It's bizarre. Through my research, I
Speaker 3: was able to identify his son and established contact. It
Speaker 3: went smoothly until I brought up the case, and at
Speaker 3: that moment the tone changed and he asked me to
Speaker 3: never pronounce the name of his father in our project.
Speaker 3: And I told him that was fine, But unfortunately my
Speaker 3: guarantees didn't suffice. And from that point on I saw
Speaker 3: that he read all of my messages but fused all contact.
Speaker 3: And again, why why all of the mystery called? What's
Speaker 3: there to hide? What are we not supposed to find out?
Speaker 4: I can't be mysterious?
Speaker 1: The rest They disappearance of a woman from Mount Jacqueline.
Speaker 4: The condition of the victims was sickening, and the question remains,
Speaker 4: where is the killer?
Speaker 1: From Tender for TV and I Heeart podcasts, I'm your
Speaker 1: host Matt Graves, and this is Lea Monstre Season two,
Speaker 1: The Butcher of mass.
Speaker 4: Lazy Levitabricado Di.
Speaker 1: And now the disappearance of a woman from Mont Jacqueline Leclerq,
Speaker 1: thirty three years old.
Speaker 5: Come at dievu Chateaubicour.
Speaker 6: This young woman has short, light brown hair and blue eyes,
Speaker 6: five feet three inches tall with a normal build.
Speaker 7: She is French speaking.
Speaker 1: You recall Jacqueline, the first victim we covered in this series.
Speaker 1: She was a mother of four who was last seen
Speaker 1: entering her apartment near the center of Mons at around
Speaker 1: eight pm on December twenty second, nineteen ninety six. Shortly
Speaker 1: before her murder, she had mentioned to her sister Georgette,
Speaker 1: that she kept bumping into the same man at different
Speaker 1: places around town. Here are Georgette's words from episode two.
Speaker 7: About a year before her disappearance, she met someone in
Speaker 7: the Wauxhall Park in monts She crossed path with him
Speaker 7: a few times before, and at one point he approached
Speaker 7: her for a conversation. She said, it didn't seem to
Speaker 7: be trying to charm or flirt with her. It seemed
Speaker 7: like a good person, respectful. She had mentioned this man
Speaker 7: to me she found him rather nice, cultured and intelligent,
Speaker 7: a pleasure to speak with. After meeting him in the park,
Speaker 7: my sister ran into him a few more times. Jacqueline
Speaker 7: was surprised by this, and I think that's why she
Speaker 7: mentioned it to me. She always seems to bump into
Speaker 7: him by chance, but at some point she felt that
Speaker 7: these encounters were probably orchestrated, maybe even calculated.
Speaker 1: This mystery man has been a key person of interest
Speaker 1: in Jacqueline's disappearance, and Morgan has been attempting to identify
Speaker 1: him for over a year.
Speaker 8: If it's a monsieurityputicle, Actually, this guy seemed like a
Speaker 8: decent gentleman. He wasn't hitting on her or anything. But
Speaker 8: Jacqueline lived in a small quiet in Mons and she
Speaker 8: kept bumping into him near her house or other places
Speaker 8: in Mons. And because of the ietypical description of this man,
Speaker 8: the stylish way he dressed and spoke, I went back
Speaker 8: and reviewed my notes from all of my previous interviews
Speaker 8: and realized that several people had talked about a man
Speaker 8: of similar description.
Speaker 1: When Jacqueline disappeared, her sister kept all of her belongings
Speaker 1: and later went through them in detail with Morgan. When
Speaker 1: he first started investigating the case, they included a simple
Speaker 1: business card with a man's name, telephone number, and address.
Speaker 1: At the time, it didn't have any significance, but as
Speaker 1: Morgan began inquiring about an elegant, well spoken man who
Speaker 1: spent time at Le Metropole, a woman he interviewed said
Speaker 1: that it sounded a lot like someone her sister once described.
Speaker 1: After several follow ups, he got a name and better Yet,
Speaker 1: the second witness had the man's business card and was
Speaker 1: still able to find it and share it with Morgan Bengo.
Speaker 1: The second car art as a match with the first
Speaker 1: card from Jacqueline's sister, along with a confirmatory description of
Speaker 1: a man named George, not his real name for reasons
Speaker 1: that will become evident. During the time of the murders,
Speaker 1: he lived very close to the train station, and he
Speaker 1: was a regular at Lo Metropol, so much so that
Speaker 1: some people thought he worked there. Madame Gange, her staff
Speaker 1: and many of the regulars knew him as well. George
Speaker 1: was quite the character and claimed to have psychic abilities
Speaker 1: to communicate with spirits.
Speaker 8: He calls himself a medium, and it's true that he
Speaker 8: was able to gain the trust of the people who
Speaker 8: knew him and consulted with him. Apart from his talent
Speaker 8: as a pseudo medium, he also had an attentive fear,
Speaker 8: mostly for women, and especially women who were a bit lost.
Speaker 8: He liked to play the good Samaritan and listen to them. Actually,
Speaker 8: he had a little notebook, and in that notebook he
Speaker 8: recorded all of his meetings. But the notes he took
Speaker 8: included sexual remarks and rather hardcore remarks that didn't match
Speaker 8: at all with the person he wanted to show himself, as.
Speaker 1: I later asked Morgan where he heard that George recorded
Speaker 1: sexual remarks about his clients. He confirmed that Madame Gorge,
Speaker 1: the owner of La Metropol, told him this.
Speaker 8: He was someone who was always very well dressed in
Speaker 8: his early sixties. He spoke eloquently and his French was impeccable.
Speaker 8: He sort of seemed out of place around the train station,
Speaker 8: as it's not the kind of area where you'd expect
Speaker 8: to see someone like him.
Speaker 1: He often met his clients for psychic readings at La Metropol,
Speaker 1: and virtually all of them were women.
Speaker 9: Metropol.
Speaker 8: He spent a lot of time at Le Metropol. He
Speaker 8: sometimes helped serve drinks behind the bar, and he he
Speaker 8: also did his readings there. But a lot of people
Speaker 8: had doubts about his talents as a medium, And we
Speaker 8: know that he knew several of the victims, Jacquelina. We
Speaker 8: already know that he knew Jacqueline. I also got a
Speaker 8: first hand testimony from Martin's hairdresser, who described seeing her
Speaker 8: with a man of the same description.
Speaker 1: You recall that Martin Bone was murdered the day after
Speaker 1: visiting her hairdresser, Edoir. He confirmed to Morgan that Martin
Speaker 1: had come to a salon accompanied by a man fitting
Speaker 1: George's exact description. He couldn't remember the exact day, but
Speaker 1: recall that it was not long before her disappearance. And
Speaker 1: when you mention this, he said, quote, I think it
Speaker 1: could have been a medium from Le Metropoldrogn.
Speaker 8: Apparently during a reading with a woman Natalie Goda, came
Speaker 8: into Le Metropol and walked up to them, and at
Speaker 8: that point he lost his patience, told her off, and
Speaker 8: then said what the fuck does she want from me now,
Speaker 8: which was at all his normal vocabulary attitude, and it
Speaker 8: really surprised the woman who was getting the reading. So
Speaker 8: now we're already at three victims where we're certain he
Speaker 8: knew them.
Speaker 9: Camiki.
Speaker 8: Also there was a friend of Carmelina Russo who thinks
Speaker 8: she had contact with him, but I haven't been able
Speaker 8: to crosscheck with another witness, and since I only have
Speaker 8: one account, I can confirm it one hundred percent. Whereas
Speaker 8: for the other victims, I'm sure.
Speaker 1: We're certain that George personally knew the victims, Jacqueline, Martin
Speaker 1: and Natalie, And although it's not one hundred percent confirmed,
Speaker 1: we believe he knew Carmelina and most likely Pagonia as well,
Speaker 1: since they both frequented La metro Pol. Now that we've
Speaker 1: tied George to the mystery man seemingly stalking Jacqueline, I
Speaker 1: asked Madame Gosh, the owner of Le Metropol, what she
Speaker 1: could tell us about him.
Speaker 10: George was a smooth talker. He was incredibly gentle, very
Speaker 10: gentle in all that he said. Without a doubt, the
Speaker 10: man that she had met several times is the man
Speaker 10: who killed her. But it's not George. Do you understand?
Speaker 1: I asked her how she knows it wasn't him.
Speaker 10: No, it's not George who killed the girls. Again, I
Speaker 10: asked her how she knows this, But Trisi, I know
Speaker 10: by intuition.
Speaker 1: I think it's important to explain that Madame Ganche was
Speaker 1: very close to George, so it makes sense that she
Speaker 1: would defend him around the time of the murders. We
Speaker 1: believe the two were in an intimate relationship.
Speaker 6: She is.
Speaker 10: To kill five women and cut them up? Do you
Speaker 10: realize he had to have a special place to do that? Particularly,
Speaker 10: George had family. He had children, and he had a wife,
Speaker 10: and he had a brother. According to our research, George
Speaker 10: did have a wife and children, but they were separated
Speaker 10: at the time and he lived alone in his house
Speaker 10: which was quite close to the train station and even
Speaker 10: closer to the main dumb side. The private investigator Xavier
Speaker 10: de cont has been helping me research persons of interest
Speaker 10: in this case.
Speaker 3: It's been difficult to find information about the men were
Speaker 3: calling George. All I had at the start was a
Speaker 3: date of birth, the fact that he had once lived
Speaker 3: in France, and that he had a brother. So what
Speaker 3: I can tell you is that at the time of
Speaker 3: the murders in nineteen ninety six, George was sixty three
Speaker 3: years old. Concerning his past, we know that during his
Speaker 3: childhood he attended the Catholic boarding school, where, according to
Speaker 3: a witness, he experienced some sort of sexual abuse, but
Speaker 3: we can't verify this professional Concerning his professional life, it
Speaker 3: was stated that he was involved with notary and estate
Speaker 3: services where he organized property visits. During one of these visits,
Speaker 3: a cadavera would have been found on one of the properties,
Speaker 3: but he wasn't suspected of anything criminal related to that.
Speaker 3: Since I had so little information, I did research in
Speaker 3: genealogical databases to try to find out more about his family.
Speaker 3: I learned that he came from a large family and
Speaker 3: had several brothers and sisters, which led me to hope
Speaker 3: i'd be able to find someone who could help me
Speaker 3: locate him. As mentioned, I was able to make contact
Speaker 3: with his son, which started off well until I mentioned
Speaker 3: the case, and then he immediately he stopped talking and
Speaker 3: since then I've not had any more contact with his son.
Speaker 3: In summary, we don't have very much about George. We
Speaker 3: know that at the time he was in his early sixties,
Speaker 3: he had been married, but was living about from his family.
Speaker 1: Given his connection with le Metropold, George was also questioned. However,
Speaker 1: police didn't have anything implicating him in the murders. Apparently,
Speaker 1: he was very interested in the case and followed developments closely.
Speaker 1: In fact, he became somewhat of a go to person
Speaker 1: for people wanting to know more about what was going on.
Speaker 1: At one point, police worked with Belgium's national broadcaster to
Speaker 1: produce a TV segment with a public appeal for witnesses
Speaker 1: to come forward, and George was featured anonymously de Bacle.
Speaker 8: When the television crew came to le Metropol to film
Speaker 8: the public appeal, for witnesses. George drew attention to himself
Speaker 8: and even welcomed the TV crew into his home. He
Speaker 8: was very interested in the investigation and everything going on,
Speaker 8: and he was making himself the center of attention.
Speaker 1: Frederick lah, the investigative journalist who you've heard speaking English
Speaker 1: and previous episodes, was part of my interview with Morgan.
Speaker 1: As our discussion was in French, I've included the translation.
Speaker 4: Satitude particular the jor Roki.
Speaker 11: The particular attitude of George, who showed himself to be
Speaker 11: more than helpful, raised the eyebrows of certain investigators and
Speaker 11: they ended up having suspicions about him. He see miscoms
Speaker 11: that he was inserting himself into the investigation and putting
Speaker 11: himself forward.
Speaker 1: To learn more about this, I spoke to the profiler,
Speaker 1: doctor Danielle Zuquer, who you heard in episode five.
Speaker 12: So the perpetrator is inserting himself in an investigation when
Speaker 12: he's looking for controlling the narratives and monitoring progress. This
Speaker 12: is really important for him because then he can adapt
Speaker 12: and another motive would be to mislead the police so
Speaker 12: get them on the wrong track, and sometimes also to
Speaker 12: because he's seeking for some attention.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 12: For example, the BTK got involved in the investigation, and
Speaker 12: I think it was trying to get attention and be
Speaker 12: sure that the media as would talk about him.
Speaker 1: Doctor Zuker is referring to the infamous BTK killer Dennis Raider,
Speaker 1: who actually complained in a letter to a newspaper that
Speaker 1: he felt the police in media weren't paying enough attention
Speaker 1: to him. Morgan explains another worrying fact about George on.
Speaker 8: Em There's another interesting detail I can add find any
Speaker 8: no non set because tomorrow, at the end of nineteen
Speaker 8: ninety seven, not long after becoming interested in the investigation
Speaker 8: and filming the appeal for a witnesses.
Speaker 9: Segment, George vas de Menege.
Speaker 8: George relocated rather abruptly to Normandy in France, and this
Speaker 8: was another element that investigators questioned why this hasty moved
Speaker 8: to France.
Speaker 1: In fact, we learned that he skipped down quickly without
Speaker 1: even paying his rent, a hasty departure. Indeed, we also
Speaker 1: learned that the house he moved into in France was
Speaker 1: actually owned by Madame Ganche. It's obviously sensitive to discuss
Speaker 1: George with Madame Ganche, based on their relationship at the time. Furthermore,
Speaker 1: authorities also treated her as a person of interest in
Speaker 1: the case, having known all the victims, although no further
Speaker 1: action was taken. It's an interesting twist, she explains.
Speaker 10: So they tried to find out if I had anything
Speaker 10: to do with the butcher of Mond's case of and
Speaker 10: I noticed it because they called me many many times, Nessir.
Speaker 10: They'd come at night, they'd come in the morning, they'd
Speaker 10: come at noon all the time, So many times they'd
Speaker 10: come speak with me and ask me to repeat everything.
Speaker 10: It was a strange experience for me.
Speaker 1: Based on the physical evidence and witness statements, were confident
Speaker 1: that George was the mystery man who appeared to be
Speaker 1: stalking Jacqueline. Claiming to be a medium, he spent a
Speaker 1: lot of time doing ratings with women that had similar
Speaker 1: profiles as Jacqueline and the other victims. Through his personal notebook,
Speaker 1: we know that he often recorded notes that were sexual
Speaker 1: in nature, indicating his true motives and feelings about the women.
Speaker 1: Based on matching his business card and description, were certain
Speaker 1: that George knew a majority of the victims, given that
Speaker 1: they were all regulars at Le Metropos during the period
Speaker 1: he spent most of his time there. It's also concerning
Speaker 1: that he seemed to be overly interested in the butcher
Speaker 1: of mass case, inserting himself into the investigation, and then
Speaker 1: as things began to heat up, he skipped town. Our
Speaker 1: concerns regarding George and his possible involvement in the case
Speaker 1: grew when we heard a new revelation from Madame Ganch.
Speaker 1: It's about a conversation that he had with another man
Speaker 1: at the bar and hotel l Metropoles not long before
Speaker 1: he skipped town.
Speaker 10: I served a coffee to the man in question, and
Speaker 10: George was sitting opposite him, and I brought the coffee,
Speaker 10: and when I arrived at the table, I heard this
Speaker 10: man who was showing his hands to George sitting in
Speaker 10: front of him, and he said, I have blood on
Speaker 10: my hands. And George came up to the bar and asked,
Speaker 10: did you hear what he said to me? And I
Speaker 10: said I heard something, but then maybe he was just drunk.
Speaker 10: And George said that the man just told him that
Speaker 10: he had blood on his hands.
Speaker 1: We'll call the man with whom George supposedly had this discussion.
Speaker 1: Danielle also not his real name, as he's not known
Speaker 1: to the public and the case is still active, there's
Speaker 1: some confusion about what exactly was said in this discussion.
Speaker 1: Morgan originally pride this information out of Madame Gone, So
Speaker 1: here's what he recalls.
Speaker 8: Madame Gonsch told me that one day George was at
Speaker 8: Le Metropol as usual, and another regular named Daniel arrived
Speaker 8: and sat down with George and they were talking, and
Speaker 8: that at one point Daniel showed his hands to George
Speaker 8: and said his hands have killed more than once, or
Speaker 8: something like that, and George was shocked, and he went
Speaker 8: to Madame Ganch and asked her if he should report
Speaker 8: him to the police. And she told George that since
Speaker 8: Daniel said this to him, it was up to him
Speaker 8: to decide what to do. And it struck me because
Speaker 8: it's not the type of thing you hear every day.
Speaker 8: And so I started looking into both George and Danielle
Speaker 8: to see if they knew each other outside of Le Metropol. Moreover,
Speaker 8: they actually lived within hundreds of it from each other.
Speaker 1: Substantiating that this conversation ever actually took place was difficult.
Speaker 1: All we had to go on was the version Madame
Speaker 1: Gone shared with Morgan, and a slightly different version that
Speaker 1: she shared with me. However, the recent discussions with former
Speaker 1: police officers we were able to confirm not only that
Speaker 1: it took place, but much more. Frederick lah explains.
Speaker 11: I was unaware of everything Morgan just shared about this
Speaker 11: at the time of my original.
Speaker 4: Investigation jose Ames avestigation.
Speaker 11: However, I learned recently that George went to the police
Speaker 11: at the time to declare that Danielle, a client of
Speaker 11: Le Metropol, confided something very particular to him.
Speaker 4: Or in the deficile did not feel more.
Speaker 11: It's difficult to determine the exact timeline of this. Was
Speaker 11: it before the discovery of the body parts or after,
Speaker 11: most likely after, But in any case, he informed the
Speaker 11: police and specifically the Gendarmerie of this first hand account.
Speaker 4: De setimonial Mosque Rousse.
Speaker 11: And so what I know about George is that he
Speaker 11: denounced Daniel and set the police on his trail.
Speaker 4: Pie dou Daniel.
Speaker 1: As Frederick mentioned, George went specifically to the Gendarmerie to
Speaker 1: report his conversation with Danielle. In Belgium at the time,
Speaker 1: there were two main police forces, the Gendarmerie, a national
Speaker 1: force under the Defense Ministry, and the judicial police, an
Speaker 1: investigative force reporting in to the public prosecutor. If you
Speaker 1: listen to season one of La Montstre, you'll recall that
Speaker 1: these two police forces were in the throes of major
Speaker 1: jurisdictional battles in the late nineties. It was practically open
Speaker 1: war between the two forces. The judicial police were handling
Speaker 1: the butcher of Man's case, but George reported his conversation
Speaker 1: with Danielle to the Gendarmerie, who didn't bother to notify
Speaker 1: the judicial police working on the case.
Speaker 4: Leavetemonial.
Speaker 11: George went to the Gendarmerie to tell them about the
Speaker 11: conversation he had with Danielle. The gendarmes then summoned Danielle
Speaker 11: to come for an interview to explain his purported statement
Speaker 11: about having blood on his hands. So he must have
Speaker 11: received a letter asking him to come to the Gendarmerie,
Speaker 11: and so before going he had time to make evidence
Speaker 11: disappear if there was any, and also to prepare for
Speaker 11: the interrogation. So, according to what I've learned, this was
Speaker 11: a major source of frustration for the investigators who were
Speaker 11: working the case, because they think that summoning him wasn't
Speaker 11: the right approach. He should have been questioned without notice,
Speaker 11: eventually with a warrant, ready to go for a search
Speaker 11: in the interest of the case, It wasn't the right
Speaker 11: to push.
Speaker 1: If you're investigating a potential serial killer, you obviously wouldn't
Speaker 1: want to tip him off before speaking with him. This
Speaker 1: mistake would never have happened had the judicial police in
Speaker 1: charge of the case received the initial tip. Until recently,
Speaker 1: the existence of Danielle was completely unknown to us. The
Speaker 1: fact that he was questioned as a person of interest
Speaker 1: in the case is not public knowledge. When we first
Speaker 1: learned about it, I thought it would be just another
Speaker 1: rabbit hole. A vague remark about a drunk guy at
Speaker 1: a bar is hardly a scoop. But after we were
Speaker 1: able to identify him and start investigating his potential connection,
Speaker 1: it got interesting really quick. Danielle lived on the same
Speaker 1: street as the main dumb Side, less than five hundred
Speaker 1: meters from where most of the body parts were found.
Speaker 1: He was a regular at Le Metropol and other bars
Speaker 1: around the train station area. Prior to when the murders started,
Speaker 1: he'd been in a relationship that ended as a major
Speaker 1: disappointment for him when a woman he loved ended their
Speaker 1: relationship leaving him heartbroken. At the time of the murders,
Speaker 1: he was experiencing a difficult phase in his life that
Speaker 1: he himself described as his quote dark period, and just
Speaker 1: as the murders stopped, he started a new relationship with
Speaker 1: a woman who would later become his wife, and this
Speaker 1: woman's profile was very similar to the other victims. Morgan
Speaker 1: explains what we've learned about this dark period in his life.
Speaker 9: San Josu Nikias.
Speaker 8: He was a night owl who spent a lot of
Speaker 8: time in the establishments surrounding the station, and specifically Le Metropol,
Speaker 8: and he drank heavily tradiscret He was very discreet and withdrawn,
Speaker 8: and few people really knew him other than his first name.
Speaker 4: He also had a nickname.
Speaker 1: We decided not to publicly share Danielle's nickname, but awareness
Speaker 1: of it has proven to be valuable for investigation.
Speaker 8: He apparently had a strange way of relating to women.
Speaker 8: I can't say with absolute certainty that it was him,
Speaker 8: but I've heard accounts about a man of the same
Speaker 8: mental and physical description who had difficulties in his relationships
Speaker 8: with women. Plants the second. Multiple women complained about his behavior.
Speaker 8: That doesn't make him a killer, but it makes you
Speaker 8: ask what's he doing in these bars at night and
Speaker 8: why is he having problems with women.
Speaker 1: Prior to her disappearance, Jacqueline mentioned to her sister that
Speaker 1: a man named Danielle, who became aggressive when drinking, had
Speaker 1: repeatedly tried to approach her at a bar near her apartment.
Speaker 1: We have no idea if this was the same Danielle,
Speaker 1: as his real first name is quite common, and Jacqueline
Speaker 1: was beautiful and unwanted advances were a frequent occurring for her.
Speaker 1: Our investigation into George has placed him in direct contact
Speaker 1: with multiple victims, in this case, Following that lead has
Speaker 1: led us to Danielle. Sitting here, I'm starting to feel
Speaker 1: like we've pulled on a thread that's actually taking us somewhere.
Speaker 1: As I begin to peel the onion around the intriguing
Speaker 1: characters of George and Danielle, each layer reveals something new.
Speaker 1: The fact that Madame Gange was questioned as a suspect
Speaker 1: and that she personally knew all of the victims as
Speaker 1: well as George and Danielle is a revelation what was
Speaker 1: really going on at Le Metropold. How can five women
Speaker 1: who frequented this establishment simply disappear and then be found
Speaker 1: murdered and dismembered, without any of the regulars having the
Speaker 1: faintest idea of what happened to them. The more we
Speaker 1: learn about George and Daniell, the more we believe that
Speaker 1: either one or both of these men are the most
Speaker 1: compelling persons of interest in this case, since the investigation
Speaker 1: started almost thirty years ago. Next time, on the season
Speaker 1: finale of La Mosca.
Speaker 6: She passed the car and had time to see the
Speaker 6: silhouette of a person, a man alone in a station wagon.
Speaker 6: He told me that in his mind, in any case,
Speaker 6: he believes he saw the trash backs being deposited by
Speaker 6: the butcher of Moss.
Speaker 8: Shortly before the trash backs were found, he noticed a
Speaker 8: man meticulously cleaning out an open station wagon in this
Speaker 8: street where the witness lived himself, and it jumped out
Speaker 8: at him because the man didn't live in his street.
Speaker 5: In an aggressive tone, he told me I shouldn't have
Speaker 5: reported her missing because it had caused him serious problems.
Speaker 5: I felt threatened. I'd never seen him like that before.
Speaker 5: I assume his violent reaction was linked to the report
Speaker 5: I had made to the police.
Speaker 13: It's true that once, when I was very drunk, I
Speaker 13: said to George, you see, George, these hands have blood
Speaker 13: on them. I was completely wasted.
Speaker 10: Champ he came to get a room with Natalie. He
Speaker 10: came in here and walked straight up to me and
Speaker 10: asked for a room. She was dead a few weeks later.
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