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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to the Blackout Tills Podcast. I'm your host Rod,

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Speaker 2: Coronavirus. That's right, coronavirus news. We gotta talk about it.

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Speaker 2: Let's see Travis Tritt, the country singer, says he's not

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Speaker 4: And honestly, I'm gonna tell you right now, and I

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Speaker 2: like because the way the framing of it, like that's

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Speaker 2: These are like right wing talking points that I see

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Speaker 2: I'm not. I don't put it above the people trying

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Speaker 2: So I'm skeptical of the story, to be honest, But

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Speaker 4: Now let's go yeah every time, Yes, every time. Take

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Speaker 4: You're gonna make it so inconvenient, but like shit, I

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Speaker 2: Shot unvaccinated, Kyrie. Irvin supporters, which what that's a group,

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Speaker 2: But anyway, before we whooped the ass, these people showed

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Speaker 2: be shocked because it's Kyrie fucking her. He's not like

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Speaker 2: He literally hasn't said anything of like when you ask

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Speaker 1: You know a lot of white people out there right right.

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Speaker 2: Another reason I think it's some bullshit.

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Speaker 1: They're pushing out of the boy. You're like to talk.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And what's gonna happen is that they're gonna stop

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Speaker 2: I mean they're lucky. It's no real police out there

434
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Speaker 2: and ship doing this type of job like that. Security

435
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Speaker 2: at the arena's just designed to be like check your

436
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Speaker 2: ticket and get in line and make sure you're wearing

437
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Speaker 2: a mask, you know, or maybe in New York they

438
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Speaker 2: probably check vaccine status. But you know that's all they're there.

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Speaker 4: For, right this This is ridiculous, like nigga, like the

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Speaker 4: fuck y'all up here for?

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Speaker 1: Do y'all? Are y'all going into the game?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: You up Herefore then.

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Speaker 2: I'm not even sure these people are with from New York.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: There's not a lot of like sons, you know what

447
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Speaker 2: I'm saying. I don't see a lot of town.

448
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Speaker 1: A lot of these people come from outside of the air.

449
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Speaker 2: Like you said, come on, this don't seem I don't know.

450
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Speaker 2: I don't know, is this right? Right? I mean, good

451
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Speaker 2: for them. There are some black people in here, you know,

452
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Speaker 2: I'll see some that's there too, But yeah, this is

453
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,120
Speaker 2: just odd. This is the times we're living in man.

454
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Speaker 2: I let Kyrie Clay storm in the Capitol of the Brooklyn.

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Speaker 4: Right So Navy home game, we had to pay for

456
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Speaker 4: the extra security because.

457
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Speaker 1: We don't know when y'are niggas gonna show up here, right.

458
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Speaker 2: Georgia pastor indicted for COVID relief scam. Mac Devin Knight,

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Speaker 2: forty five, was accused of lying to the Small Business

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Speaker 2: Administration and applications for economic injury disaster loans. He said

461
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Speaker 2: he was also a mortician or restaurantear and a tax repair.

462
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 2: He applied for the loans in February March from two

463
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Speaker 2: for two Camden County businesses. However, his applications would help

464
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Speaker 2: false information, including the false claim that the business he

465
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Speaker 2: was applying under each had hundreds of thousand dollars in

466
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Speaker 2: gross revenue prior to the pandemic. He submitted a false

467
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Speaker 2: bank document. This is a past This is somebody pastor.

468
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Speaker 1: After false bank document, you want to go to the jail. Jail.

469
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Speaker 2: Thous should not lie. Thou should not. Still he was

470
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Speaker 2: approved for one hundred and forty nine thousand dollars for

471
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Speaker 2: one application. That's when he purchased a Mercedes Benz because

472
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Speaker 2: that was the you know, he needed that relief.

473
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Speaker 4: Apparently a relief for the beans.

474
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Speaker 2: The fastest found guilty can face financial penalties up to

475
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Speaker 2: thirty years in prison. And lastly, this is kind of

476
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Speaker 2: related to the pandemic. There's a rare flesh eating STD

477
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Speaker 2: on the rise in the UK.

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Speaker 1: Flesh eating Yeah, my nigga.

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Speaker 2: I'd imagine, you know, people getting vaccinated and now they

480
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Speaker 2: want to get back on these streets, you know.

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Speaker 4: My nigga, that's then even better reason to get Adam

482
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Speaker 4: and Eve go to ADM dot com because you know what,

483
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Speaker 4: you don't have to worry about them giving you a

484
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Speaker 4: flesh eating disease.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's true. They got condoms there too, Come on,

486
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 2: but yeah, they said it causes painless, beefy red lesions

487
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Speaker 2: on the genitals that can bleed. These spreading bleeding legions

488
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Speaker 2: lead led many to call the STD flesh eating, although

489
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Speaker 2: it does not actually eat your fresh flesh as it spreads.

490
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 2: It's mostly found in India, South Africa in South America,

491
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Speaker 2: but received much attention online at the Doctor Karan Rodger

492
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Speaker 2: posted about about it on his popular TikTok account. He's

493
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Speaker 2: called the Dunno vonosis terrifying and noted cases are rising

494
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Speaker 2: in the UK, so you know, strap up, y'all be

495
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Speaker 2: be safe and guess what'll do? Google pictures on it

496
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Speaker 2: never and uh.

497
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Speaker 4: Also people travel, you know, you know when people like

498
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Speaker 4: come on and travel then come on, you know, ship

499
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Speaker 4: like that.

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Speaker 1: So that ain't nothing to play with.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

502
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Speaker 1: So you're out here doing your thing.

503
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Speaker 2: Be safe, be safe after y'all come on, ain't no joke,

504
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Speaker 2: all right, loud noise time, caring you ready what you

505
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Speaker 2: want to be?

506
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Speaker 5: You better move your fiding, you better move.

507
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Speaker 2: And I want to cool, show me cool riding, caring

508
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Speaker 2: babies LGBTQ. I'm still let's talk about l g b

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Speaker 2: t Q news. All the news that's going around for

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Speaker 2: the world to see. Uh, that affects all our lgbt

511
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 2: Q friends, siblings, family, whatever term you want to use.

512
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Speaker 2: And obviously it's mostly bad.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Barack Obama slam's Republicans who keep attacking marriage equality. Uh

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Speaker 2: he Uh was our campaigning for Terry MacCall McAuliffe uh

516
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Speaker 2: in Virginia trying to see if they can shure up

517
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Speaker 2: that vote for him. Obviously, I'm heavily watching Virginia, as

518
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Speaker 2: we kind of discussed on the show yesterday. I really

519
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Speaker 2: think that's a big bell weather for America at any rate.

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Speaker 2: In response to anti LGBTQ comments from machaelfs mcauliffs. Republican

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Speaker 2: opponent Glenn Younkin, Obama asked, are we still arguing about

522
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Speaker 2: gay marriage? Really? I thought that ship itself. I thought

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Speaker 2: that was pretty clearly the right thing to do. One.

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Speaker 2: It's nice, it wasn't it nice to have a president

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Speaker 2: that could say that. But even I remember Tom when

526
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Speaker 2: he was afraid to say that, you know, before two

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Speaker 2: thousand and like.

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Speaker 1: Twelve, he put Joe Badenap there to speak first.

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Speaker 2: Right, But it is kind of the lot of land.

530
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Speaker 2: But the thing I would stress is, so was the

531
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Speaker 2: right to choose, and they're attacking that, and so I

532
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Speaker 2: think what'n X would be something like marriage equality.

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Speaker 1: Of course, you know.

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Speaker 2: It wouldn't be shocked at all if if somehow this

535
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Speaker 2: you know, we end up right back to there's you know,

536
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Speaker 2: marriage they're getting rid of marriage equality or that that's

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Speaker 2: the next big Republican fight, because I don't think they're

538
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Speaker 2: using anything is settled, you know, I don't think they

539
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Speaker 2: knew anything is settled. Uh let's see. I mean, I

540
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Speaker 2: guess I just give me a second. Actually, before I

541
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Speaker 2: even introduced this next article, I got to play my song.

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Speaker 1: Again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah great, Yeah, a couple of weeks ago, we had

544
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Speaker 2: a poll that uh people voted in and I remember

545
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Speaker 2: telling people if you voted a certain way, you're out

546
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Speaker 2: your motherfucking mind. And h the poll was is Dave

547
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Speaker 2: Chappelle done talking about l g b t Q people,

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Speaker 2: And uh, nah, he's done. He just put out a

549
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Speaker 2: video on his Instagram of you know, the kind of

550
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Speaker 2: stand up not stand up thing where it's like, I'm

551
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Speaker 2: not gonna make any jokes and I'm not really gonna

552
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Speaker 2: you know, this isn't really for people to laugh at.

553
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Speaker 2: This is for me to be real serious about. And

554
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 2: it was basically him kind of stubbing his finger in

555
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Speaker 2: the eye of his critics, claiming that he was being

556
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Speaker 2: even though he said if this is what being canceled is,

557
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Speaker 2: like I love it, he's now saying he's being canceled

558
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 2: because people don't want to play his short that he

559
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Speaker 2: filmed as a movie and submitted it to movie festivals

560
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Speaker 2: and stuff. He didn't want to People don't want to

561
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Speaker 2: film it, I mean don't want to to have it

562
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Speaker 2: playing at festivals because of his stand up special. And

563
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Speaker 2: now his short is about the LGBTQ community. It's about

564
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Speaker 2: George Floyd and about how he you know, some real

565
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Speaker 2: self important shit like I was able to make comedy

566
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Speaker 2: continue by me and all my rich friends coming and

567
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Speaker 2: doing comedy in a cornfield this summer. And it's like,

568
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 2: well that's not like cool, you know what I'm saying,

569
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Speaker 2: Like no offense, but like cool, that's not some earth

570
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Speaker 2: shaken like oh my god, at least comedy continue, like

571
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Speaker 2: we get it. People found other ways to be funny

572
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Speaker 2: the whole year. People also did comedy in person, people

573
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Speaker 2: also did comedy online. It was, you know, a lot

574
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Speaker 2: of shit. But basically in the eight forty six comes

575
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 2: from that, right. The eight forty six is his take

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Speaker 2: on George Floyd, which had almost no jokes in it,

577
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Speaker 2: and a lot of things were off limits to him

578
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Speaker 2: and very serious to him. And he didn't find that

579
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Speaker 2: shit funny at all. So for all the you know,

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Speaker 2: he he just jokes on everybody. Nah, certain people off

581
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Speaker 2: limits and we know why. But in this case, what

582
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Speaker 2: I thought was funny is that or ironic? He was

583
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Speaker 2: now saying, well, they won't show much special, am I

584
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Speaker 2: canceled or not? You know, I'm like what you said,

585
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Speaker 2: you didn't give a fuck? Mic Right. He also said

586
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Speaker 2: that he tried to claim that he was not invited

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Speaker 2: to talk to the LGBT people who work for Netflix

588
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Speaker 2: and stuff before the before they planned their protest, even

589
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Speaker 2: though one of the organizers said that they had invited

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Speaker 2: Dave Chappelle. So I don't know if they did or not,

591
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 2: but I also know he's not necessarily reliable narrator here.

592
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 2: If it's true, there'll probably be some paperwork, paper trail.

593
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 2: Know on Twitter, somebody will poke, screenshots, some shit. But

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Speaker 2: basically they were like, he was invited, but he ain't

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Speaker 2: show up. But he then said to the transgender community,

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Speaker 2: I'm more than willing to give you an audience, but

597
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Speaker 2: you will not summon me. Uh, and everybody was clapping

598
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 2: in his defiance and stuff. I'm not being into anyone's demands,

599
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 2: he added, to the cheers from the packed audience, and

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Speaker 2: if you want to meet with me, I'm more than

601
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Speaker 2: willing to, but I have some conditions. Everybody started laughing

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Speaker 2: and uh, he said, uh.

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Speaker 4: You.

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Speaker 2: First of all, you cannot come if you haven't watched

605
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Speaker 2: my special from again to end. You must come to

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Speaker 2: a place of my choosing at time I choosing. Thirdly,

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Speaker 2: you must admit that Handah Gasby is not funny, which

608
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Speaker 2: was the joke of that part. So who knows if

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Speaker 2: that's if he's really willing to meet with people. I

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Speaker 2: don't I wouldn't blame anybody for not wanting to meet

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Speaker 2: with him. I mean, obviously, but uh, and I think,

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Speaker 2: you know, he kind of goes into it where he's

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Speaker 2: like I said what I said, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Like just all I'm hearing I said what I said,

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Speaker 1: the want to you bought in?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, let me see if I can get

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Speaker 2: to that part. But but so I guess when you

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Speaker 2: go off this, it has to do this. Give me

619
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Speaker 2: on a second and get back to that screen. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was very much like I said what I said. So,

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Speaker 2: you know, I think a lot of people have been

622
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Speaker 2: making an excuse for him by being like, he don't

623
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Speaker 2: mean it. It's just jokes. He's you gotta he don't really,

624
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Speaker 2: it's not his heart. John look Stewart was saying it

625
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 2: like his intentions are never bad. He's a good guy,

626
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Speaker 2: but he also is like I said what I said.

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Speaker 6: It's been setting the press.

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Speaker 2: That I was invited to speak.

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Speaker 6: From the transgender employees of Netflix, and I refuse that

630
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Speaker 6: it's not true. If they had invited me, I would

631
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Speaker 6: have accepted it, although I am confused about what we're

632
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Speaker 6: speaking about. I said what I said, and boy, I

633
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Speaker 6: heard what you said.

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Speaker 1: My god, how could I not.

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Speaker 6: You said, you want to say working environment at Netflix, Well,

636
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Speaker 6: it seems like I'm the only one that can't go

637
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Speaker 6: to the office anymore.

638
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Speaker 2: Somehow they think that's a great point in the artist.

639
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Speaker 2: And I'm like, they work at Netflix and you can

640
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Speaker 2: come in there, like if you like that, like this

641
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 2: idea that he's oh Dave Chappelle, nobody, nobody's gonna ever

642
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 2: bring him back to Netflix. Like those people believe in you.

643
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 2: They were defending you, you know, they were telling their

644
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 2: employees gas like and I'm like, nah, you didn't hear

645
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 2: what you heard.

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Speaker 1: He's the purpose of the protest.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like no, no, like And that's, like I said,

648
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Speaker 2: the slight of hand, because they'll be like these with

649
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 2: people's victimhood. You can't make me participate in this. But

650
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,919
Speaker 2: now you're like, but my victimhood. And that's the sad

651
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 2: thing with Chapelle is that so much of what he's

652
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 2: talked about is always operated around simply his own victimhood

653
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,760
Speaker 2: and his own ego, like it's uh, they they fucked

654
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 2: me over at Comedy Central. So everybody get behind me

655
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,879
Speaker 2: and don't watch Netflix until I tell you it's time

656
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 2: to watch Netflix or whatever the fuck. You know, don't

657
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 2: watch HBO Max unless I say it's okay. You know,

658
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 2: with George Floyd that if that's not a straight black man,

659
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 2: I don't think he's even talking about it. He don't

660
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 2: give a fuck. You know. It's very everything centered around,

661
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 2: very much Dave Chappelle's life view and worldview and how

662
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 2: Dave Chappelle feels. Hey, I said bad things about people

663
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 2: and their feelings. Fuck their feelings, but my feelings are

664
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 2: hurt that they would think I'm a bad guy. You know.

665
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 2: It's that type of thing. And you know, it's just

666
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 2: sad to watch him go out like this.

667
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 6: I want everyone in this audience to know that even

668
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 6: though the media frames is that it's me versus that community,

669
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 6: it's not what it is. Not blame the LBGTQ community

670
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 6: for any of this shit, has nothing to do with them.

671
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 6: It's about corporate interests and what I can say and

672
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 6: what I cannot say.

673
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 2: And that to me also is a fundamental denial of

674
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 2: what's happening because he's going I can't say gay slurs.

675
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 2: I can't say you know, he's like saying the whole word,

676
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 2: but I can't say the F word, but I can

677
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 2: say nigger. And it's like, dude, that's not a corporate

678
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 2: interests type of thing. Literally, you're saying it. You're on

679
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 2: stage and you are saying it. No one's able to

680
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 2: really stop you. That's your whole thing. It's been like,

681
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 2: look at me, the comedian that jumps over the third

682
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 2: rail and lives, you know what I mean. And that's

683
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,720
Speaker 2: to me, it's like, no one's stopping you from saying

684
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 2: that shit. You're saying it. You're getting a lot of

685
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 2: credit from people who aren't within that community, telling you

686
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 2: how great you are for being brave and you're the

687
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 2: real hero of this story and these people and they

688
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 2: you know, it gets conflated between the LGBTQ community and

689
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 2: you know, white liberal Hollywood, but it doesn't really matter

690
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 2: because it gets it gets conflated. But the way that

691
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 2: you're showing sticking your finger in the eye white liberal

692
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 2: Hollywood is by shitting on the lgbt shitting on LGBTQ

693
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 2: people like, that's how you. It's like, I'll show you

694
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 2: white liberals gave people the worst. I'm gonna say these slurs.

695
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say this. I'm gonna say it. This is

696
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 2: and you can't stop me. But I guess they stopped

697
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:33,439
Speaker 2: him from airing his special or his screening his his documentary.

698
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 2: So now now he got to bring it back up.

699
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Speaker 5: For the record.

700
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 6: And I need you to know this, Everyone I know

701
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 6: from that community has been nothing but loving and supporting.

702
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 6: So I don't know what all this nonsense.

703
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 2: Is about, which is highly ironic because that's a big

704
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 2: quest qualifier of everybody I know, which iously tells your friend.

705
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 2: That's like all the black people John Gruden knows have

706
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 2: been supportive about him come being outed as a racist, Like,

707
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 2: of course they're willing to go back on TV. That's

708
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 2: their friend. They know him and they've done hung out

709
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 2: with him, and he can't possibly be a bad guy,

710
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 2: regardless of any evidence to the contrary. But a lot

711
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 2: of people that have been writing about this, a lot

712
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 2: of people who've been expressing displeasure with Dave Chappelle and shit,

713
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 2: they are LGBTQ people. So I guess because you don't

714
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 2: know them, they don't count, but clearly they have issues

715
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 2: with it, you know what I mean. Like that's not

716
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 2: a monelisth either.

717
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 6: In summer twenty twenty when the whole world's shut down, and.

718
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 2: This is just just him talking about his documenting from

719
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 2: this point on and how he he can't believe he's

720
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 2: getting shut down over this.

721
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 4: So you can pay, you can base, you have enough

722
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 4: money where you can pay fun arena and open it

723
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 4: up and have them same people coming in and watch

724
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 4: your shit.

725
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 2: And that's really what it turned into because he he

726
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 2: said they're gonna he's gonna use his own money to

727
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 2: screen it in ten different cities and shit. So it's

728
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:10,479
Speaker 2: just an ad for his special anyway. And I think

729
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 2: that's one of the most disappointed parts is that I

730
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 2: don't really think he cares that much about any of

731
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:22,919
Speaker 2: this shit. I really think, like I was going on

732
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 2: my Twitter, was saying, how like this means he got

733
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 2: some hype of deep sea of issues with I'm like,

734
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 2: I don't how so I don't know what, cause bigotry

735
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 2: is a deep city issue, but it don't always come

736
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 2: from It's only when we get to bigotry of LGBTQ

737
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,320
Speaker 2: that it comes into like it must be something inside

738
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 2: of you's and maybe it is. You know, you can't.

739
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 2: I can't rule it out. You never know anybody's heart.

740
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 2: But sometimes people just bigoted and that's the end. And

741
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 2: for him, I just think it's more about, like, this

742
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 2: is the biggest thing you can't talk about in the

743
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,919
Speaker 2: circles I'm in. Keep in mind, that's a that that

744
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 2: that last part of that sentence is doing a lot

745
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 2: of work, because I think in life you can talk

746
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 2: about queer people all you want and nothing's gonna happen

747
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 2: to you period in life. That's just a people don't

748
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 2: give a fuck about this shit in that way, like

749
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:23,919
Speaker 2: like oh this guy like homophobic people be winning all

750
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 2: the time, you know, so the idea, but only in

751
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 2: areas of like Hollywood and maybe like academians some places

752
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 2: are there is there this stigma of like, oh, you're

753
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 2: a homophobe, you're, Oh you're you're transphobic, you're And that's

754
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 2: where Dave lives, you know, I know he lives in Ohio,

755
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 2: but like that circle of socially is where he's at.

756
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 2: So this feels like rebellion to him. But you can

757
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 2: even hear it as he was given his that that talk.

758
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 2: Right there, people are cheering in the wrong part because

759
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:05,959
Speaker 2: the world don't live in Hollywood and the world is like, yes,

760
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 2: another person championing the things we believe, So they're clapping

761
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 2: at the parts where he's just like they you know,

762
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 2: they want a place to work, and they're people are like, yeah,

763
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 2: fuck it, you know, we get it.

764
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 3: We know.

765
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, they already before you even make a

766
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 2: punchline or a complete thought. They're there for the fuck them,

767
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 2: fuck them gay people. You know, that's what they're there for.

768
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 2: So I'm not really shocked. And they really loved his

769
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 2: defiance of like, I'm not being into anyone's demands, and

770
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 2: they were like cheering the shit out. Like I said,

771
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna play the whole thing. But it was

772
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 2: just like I said, going outside, but also completely predictable.

773
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 2: Is anyone that's ever been in the internet argument, it never.

774
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 4: Ends now when you say it's over, it's not designed

775
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 4: to end.

776
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 2: Like you can't help yourself.

777
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: Yes, it's an addiction.

778
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you can't help yourself. You think you're gonna

779
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 2: say the perfect one liner and then everyone's gonna understand. Yeah,

780
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 2: and you also think you should be able to say

781
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 2: whatever the fuck you want and everyone should think you're

782
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 2: a good person. And neither one of those things operates

783
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 2: like that. You can you can say what you want

784
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 2: and people might not fuck with you no more, or

785
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 2: you know, you can say what you want and and

786
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 2: people might still it might love you for it. But yes,

787
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 2: and I you know, we'll see how it real. The

788
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 2: idea of an invitation and the top is for him anyway,

789
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 2: because I have a feeling within that community of l

790
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 2: g B t Q people, there will be people that

791
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 2: think there's a benefit to go talk to him or

792
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 2: to have him come in and whatever the results of

793
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 2: that would be. But I think he's perfectly stated how

794
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 2: he feels. And this is just where we are as

795
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:58,280
Speaker 2: a as a society, like people feel like, especially trans

796
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 2: identities is just is up for the eight. We could

797
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 2: talk about it, we could say whatever you want. And

798
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 2: all the people that are saying that, everybody that is

799
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 2: saying that you just get over it, seems to be

800
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 2: a person not within the community. Yes, you know what

801
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,240
Speaker 2: I mean. Like it's a lot of like Joe Rogan

802
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 2: telling people, listen, man, if you if you can't let

803
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 2: people joke about it, then maybe something's wrong with you,

804
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 2: you know, and shit like that, because you know, what

805
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 2: does Joe Rogan ever experienced in his life that had

806
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 2: put him on the other side of something that wasn't

807
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 2: a choice he made, you know what I mean, Like

808
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 2: a lot of this stuff, people are equating choices and

809
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 2: with being in an oppressed group, and it's like, no,

810
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 2: you made a fucking choice. You know. That's not the

811
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:50,240
Speaker 2: same as uh as as as someone's sexual orientation or something.

812
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 2: You know. But even more so, if that if I

813
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 2: make a choice that's not hurting anybody else, I don't

814
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 2: know why the fuck I have to become the focal

815
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 2: point of your ire, you know. So all right, yeah,

816
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 2: Netflix takes around as admit that he screwed up. He said,

817
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 2: I screwed up in internal communication and that storyteller has

818
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 2: an impact on the real world. Yet this was coming because,

819
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 2: like I told you, Netflix wants to get credit for

820
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 2: the shit that they're They want to get credit for

821
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 2: the good shit y, but have no responsibility for anything

822
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 2: they do. That's the opposite of what they claim to

823
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 2: be about. So it's like, we hired this trans person,

824
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 2: this person, we have a trans person that's a showrunner.

825
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 2: We have this show about inclusivity and about the LGBTQ community.

826
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 2: Get us a glad award, get us this, get us that.

827
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 2: You know, you know all the promos from the videos

828
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 2: on social media like come to Netflix, you know black voices,

829
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 2: all that type of stuff. Right, Okay, cool? You want that,

830
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 2: You want that pat on the back, you want that money,

831
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 2: that pr you love it. But then when and what

832
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 2: do you say? Because these stories matter. We're changing the

833
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 2: world one story at a time. We're showing people what

834
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 2: they didn't understand before. And then you turn around him

835
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 2: go yeah, and then this guy Nah, that doesn't change.

836
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 2: That doesn't actually hurt anybody, That doesn't affect anybody. That's

837
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 2: not real. It doesn't matter. Y'all are all tripping if

838
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 2: you think this is important. It's just it's just a

839
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 2: stand up special. Just leave it alone. Who cares? Meanwhile,

840
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 2: people work for you.

841
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 5: You know.

842
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 2: So yeah, he I wouldn't necessarily call it apologize, but

843
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 2: say he messed up. He did an interview. He said,

844
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 2: they said, what do you make of the way the

845
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 2: reaction to day Chappelle' secial was handled by Netflix and

846
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 2: by you? You said, first right up front. I screwed

847
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 2: up the internal communication. And I don't just mean mechanically.

848
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 2: I feel I should have made sure to recognized that

849
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 2: a group of our employees was hurting very badly from

850
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,280
Speaker 2: the decision made, and I should have recognized up front

851
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 2: before going into or rationalization or anything the pain they

852
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 2: were going through. I say that because I respect them deeply.

853
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 2: I love the contribution they have in Netflix. They were hurting,

854
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 2: and I should have recognized at first.

855
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, and a lot of it comes from them protesting

856
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 4: and walking that it makes you look bad, so you

857
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 4: had to address this, whether you wanted.

858
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 2: To it not. Yeah. And of course you say this

859
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 2: now right, You know what I mean, because, like I said,

860
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 2: you want to look good. But to me, I feel

861
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 2: like the true feelings was that first statement that off

862
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 2: the cuff, like y'all, y'all need to just stop bitching

863
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 2: and complaining like that. That one felt more like, oh,

864
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 2: this is what you really think. And then the second

865
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 2: one sounds like somebody got to you. And I was like,

866
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 2: hey man, this is making us look bad. We're about

867
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 2: to have a walkout. You know, we have people working

868
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 2: here and we say we're an inclusive space and we

869
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 2: have all these fucking diversity trainings and pats on the

870
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 2: back emails and shit, and now motherfuckers is like, y'all

871
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 2: full of shit. Okay, I'll do an interview. I'll get

872
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 2: ahead of this. What about the decision address the issue

873
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 2: in internal emails and the statement and the second one

874
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 2: that content does not translate the real world harm? Do

875
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 2: you have second thoughts about how that came out and

876
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 2: was received? He said, we're in uncharted grounds here. We

877
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 2: have never had internal emails leaked to the press before,

878
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 2: and I would say that the issue with that is

879
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 2: they were a conversation that progress. That's one email and

880
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 2: when you look at it and say, it was meant

881
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 2: to ask a very specific question and land it like

882
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 2: a big blanket statement, and the big blanket statement should

883
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 2: have been. Of course, storytelling has an impact on the

884
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 2: real world, sometimes positive, sometimes negative. That is why I

885
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 2: work here. The content actually makes the world, can make

886
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 2: the world a better place through our storytelling, through onscreen

887
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 2: representation and all those things. So it was a gross

888
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 2: simplification and it didn't land where it should have, which

889
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 2: is there was a conversation about the one to one

890
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 2: impact of a certain piece of content. It came out

891
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 2: with a very blanket statement that storytelling doesn't have impact

892
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 2: on the real world, which is the opposite of everything

893
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:56,919
Speaker 2: I ever said, thought or felt. So like I said,

894
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 2: I don't think it's more of an apology, is more of.

895
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 1: Just like krying to clean up.

896
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he said, And then of course he's upset

897
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 2: that it leaked. But I'm saying there's no such thing

898
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 2: as corporate privacy. If it's coming in an email or

899
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 2: whatever expected to be seen, if a person can screenshot

900
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 2: it or take a picture with they phone, it can

901
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 2: be put out into the world and you may or

902
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 2: may not be able to trace it back.

903
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 1: I agree, Yeah, you may or may not be too.

904
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 2: I think the only surprise is that this is a

905
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 2: state of conflict in the business around freedom of speech,

906
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 2: your creative expression that I feel very passionate about, and

907
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 2: also understanding that if you put things on Netflix that

908
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,280
Speaker 2: some people that some people will dislike it, members and employees.

909
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 2: It's impossible to please everybody. But we are trying to

910
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 2: please the world that has made up of people of

911
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 2: different taste, sensibilities, and beliefs. It's become very difficult to

912
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 2: do that for everybody. We have stated it internally, and

913
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 2: we are going to have some things on Netflix that

914
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 2: you don't like. There are some things on Netflix that

915
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 2: may be harmful to you, your colleagues, and your friends.

916
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 2: But we are trying to entertain the world and make

917
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 2: business decisions that are very protective of creative freedom and

918
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 2: artists and also respectful safe workplace workspace. Yep, that's gonna

919
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 2: be a conflict at all times. And I think what

920
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 2: that feels like to me is we thought we would

921
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 2: get the money and attention from the special, and that

922
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 2: was more important ratings to how people that work with

923
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,399
Speaker 2: us or people that watch our shit feel.

924
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and you showed them that.

925
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 4: They called you out of your bullshit and you're like,

926
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 4: we don't really mean that, Yeah you do.

927
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 2: And then they asked them flat out, do you have

928
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 2: regrets for releasing the special, not editing and putting our

929
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,280
Speaker 2: content warnings? He said. Stand up comedy is a pretty

930
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 2: singular voice art form. The comedians will roll testing material

931
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 2: for sometimes two years before they record a special, so

932
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 2: we really don't get involved interfere with the material itself.

933
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 2: And I think it's consistent with the brand of stand

934
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 2: up comedy and certainly consistent with Dave Chappelle's comedy, So

935
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 2: I don't think a warning card or an edit would

936
00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 2: have been appropriate. Yeah, I also agree with that Warner

937
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 2: Carter at it wouldn't have been appropriate. I really feel

938
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 2: like if this is where he was heading the whole time,

939
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:11,879
Speaker 2: if this was something they didn't want on Netflix, they

940
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 2: you know, even with the contractual obligations or whatever, they

941
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 2: probably could have been like, we're just not gonna put

942
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 2: this one up. We think this is too fucked up.

943
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 2: Or they could have been like we're gonna wait, like

944
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 2: we will wait till you take something different or some

945
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 2: shit or what you know. They could have done. It

946
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 2: wasn't that important to them, and they already made this

947
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:34,280
Speaker 2: commitment because I think people forget. But at the beginning

948
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 2: of this contract, Dave Chappelle had done stand up in

949
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 2: so long. This was a major get for them. Nobody

950
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 2: knew he was going down this path. This hard, Like

951
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure people like I'm sure if most people,

952
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 2: if they were are Chappelle fans, and many people that

953
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 2: are LGBTQ, are you know, or were at least Chappelle

954
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 2: fans and maybe still are, It was like, Okay, the

955
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 2: first that's when he got a little bit of pushback,

956
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 2: but we didn't go and then at the end of

957
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 2: this it'll be an hour and ten minutes of nothing

958
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 2: but this, so you know anyway, But yeah, they say

959
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 2: they they fucked up, and they also fired somebody, but

960
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 2: said they fired them for leaking information about the payments

961
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 2: and the money that was giving a day Chapelle for

962
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:31,879
Speaker 2: his specials, not for being trans and whatnot. Of course,

963
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 2: the person that the trans person that got fired is

964
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 2: saying that's not that they didn't release it, and da

965
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 2: da da, and then Netflix put out an actual like

966
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 2: the way they found out, like this is how our

967
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 2: investigation found out it was this person. So I don't know,

968
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 2: you know, like I said, I always looked at it

969
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 2: like if you do some shit like that, you know

970
00:52:56,320 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 2: you're risking your job and that's gonna be just be

971
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 2: part of the equation, like that's now your activism. You

972
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 2: felt like it was that important because they ain't No

973
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,439
Speaker 2: company gonna let you do that, even if it's right

974
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 2: or wrong. No company is gonna be like, well, our

975
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 2: employee felt strong enough about it, they can just do

976
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 2: it now. If the if they if they lied on

977
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 2: the person. Maybe they have a lawsuit on their hands

978
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 2: or something, but it would be odd for them to

979
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 2: just target this employee, would know, you know, So we'd

980
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:28,919
Speaker 2: have to get into some like paper trails or some shit.

981
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 2: And we'll see if that happens, because if it is

982
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 2: a lie, that person got a good lawsuit on their hands,

983
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:39,720
Speaker 2: I'll tell you that much. Netflix trans employees and allies

984
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,720
Speaker 2: release a listed demands ahead of their walkout, which did happen.

985
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,439
Speaker 2: None of the demands were not to take down Dave

986
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 2: Chappelle special. Like, it's been really interesting to see how

987
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 2: many people aren't paying attention but wanting to be outraged,

988
00:53:56,120 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 2: because I saw people saying shit like Netflix employe like

989
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 2: sharing memes and one of them was like Netflix employees

990
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 2: are mad at Dave Chapelle for They're mad at Dave

991
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 2: Chapelle for his special, But they weren't mad at QTS

992
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 2: when they had that Netflix that Netflix movie that was

993
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 2: about the over sexualization of young girls, and one of

994
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 2: the promo images was like all the girls and like

995
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 2: leotards and stuff like that, posing almost like pop stars,

996
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 2: and it went viral and the right wing Christian people

997
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 2: got a hold of and it tried to be like

998
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 2: Netflix is promoting sex trafficking, and it turns out if

999
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 2: you actually watched the thing, it's the opposite message of that,

1000
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 2: and motherfuckers didn't watch it. But I saw people passing

1001
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 2: that meme around like they weren't mad about this, and

1002
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, first of all, motherfuckers were mad about that,

1003
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 2: about that commercial, specifically, not the show, because most of

1004
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 2: y'all didn't watch the show, but y'all was mad about

1005
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 2: that the movie, but mostly y'all was, But motherfuckers got

1006
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,919
Speaker 2: mad about that image, like that's what the whole thing

1007
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 2: was about. And they let people like you know, Tucker

1008
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 2: Carlson and these other Republican motherfuckers that all the time go,

1009
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 2: Netflix is trying to sexualize your child, and it's like, no,

1010
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 2: that's not what it's about.

1011
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:17,760
Speaker 1: But they were, they were.

1012
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 2: They were successful in causing the controversy, of course, and

1013
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:28,240
Speaker 2: so people have been doing false equivalents to that. But anyway, basically,

1014
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 2: what they want is content investment. They want to be

1015
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 2: part of the creative teams and people that they want

1016
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 2: Netflix to invest in trans and non binary talent. They

1017
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 2: want a fund that should support above the line and

1018
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 2: below the line talent. This fund should exist in addition

1019
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 2: to existing Creative Equity fund increase investment and trans and

1020
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 2: non boundary comment content on on Netflix comparable to uh

1021
00:55:55,000 --> 00:56:01,240
Speaker 2: comparable to uh uh our total investment and transphobic content

1022
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 2: including marketing and promotion. And what I think is interesting

1023
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 2: about what I think is interesting about that? When you

1024
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,720
Speaker 2: say comparable to transphobic content? Is them Dave Chappelle Specials

1025
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 2: was twenty something million dollars like per stand up Special.

1026
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 2: So what you're really saying is like, invest that twenty

1027
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 2: million dollars in trans and non binary people, which means

1028
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:34,280
Speaker 2: now you're talking about probably many many projects or people

1029
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 2: having big budgets that they didn't have before.

1030
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:38,399
Speaker 1: You know, And what do you mean above the line,

1031
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:38,879
Speaker 1: below the.

1032
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 2: Line above the line below the line above the line

1033
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 2: refers to the list of individuals who got and influenced

1034
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,760
Speaker 2: the creative direction, process and voice of a given narrative

1035
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 2: in a film and related expenditures, such as screenwriter, producer, director,

1036
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 2: and actors. And then below the line are the people

1037
00:56:56,080 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 2: that are like, uh uh, what was it?

1038
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 4: Like?

1039
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 2: Uh uh, there's it turned around? No, why is it

1040
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 2: not giving me the definition?

1041
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 1: Who is that? Like your makeup artists, your.

1042
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 2: Pre production, production and post production stages of the filmmaking. For example,

1043
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 2: film editor may work solely in post production stage of filming,

1044
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 2: but they all might also work throughout the production editing

1045
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 2: the film. That is a shot in advising director if

1046
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 2: and when additional shots of scenes are needed. The boom operate,

1047
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 2: on the other hand, is mostly on the set during filming.

1048
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 2: They have to pick up the dialogue and ambient noise.

1049
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 2: So below the line is the crew, basically people that

1050
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 2: work for hourly wages as opposed to a set wage

1051
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 2: or negotiated contract.

1052
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 1: Way costume designers and things.

1053
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 2: I don't know about costume designers, but just uh yeah,

1054
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm saying. I don't know if

1055
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 2: the wardrobe costume designer maker, I don't know, because those

1056
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 2: sometimes can be union jobs as well, so but I

1057
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 2: guess they're just meaning all facets of what it takes

1058
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 2: to put on a production. They should be investing in

1059
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 2: trans and non binary people as much as you're investing

1060
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 2: in giving people like Dave Chapelle all this money to

1061
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 2: do what he does, and that to me is a

1062
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 2: thing that I don't think people people that are bigoted

1063
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 2: and whatnot that or have that that transphobian shit. They

1064
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 2: won't even understand what this really is asking. But to me,

1065
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 2: I'm like that that's actually asking Netflix to do what

1066
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 2: they say they did. Right now, what I'm saying is

1067
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 2: what people feel like they're saying is shut down Dave

1068
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 2: Chappelle and all transphobic opinions and voices. They should not

1069
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 2: have a platform at Netflix. That's what people are hearing.

1070
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 2: That's not what's been demanded. That's not what people are saying,

1071
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 2: right Or if there are people saying that, it's not

1072
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 2: this group of people, what they're saying is you're the one going,

1073
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 2: hey man, it's just freedom of speech. We just want

1074
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Speaker 2: people to just do whatever they do. We're not here

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00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 2: to judge. If you don't want to watch it, don't

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Speaker 2: watch it, right, Okay, cool? Why aren't you putting your

1077
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Speaker 2: money as hard into the other thing, That's all they're asking.

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Speaker 2: If you're going to continue to do shit like this,

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Speaker 2: why aren't you investing this money in other voices? Since

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Speaker 2: you claim it's not about picking winners and losers, but

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00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 2: when you spend twenty million dollars for one guy to

1082
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Speaker 2: do his thing, knowing what his thing is, and then

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00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 2: you don't spend nearly that much money on the people

1084
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 2: he's talking about. It does feel like you're picking winners

1085
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 2: and losers, and that's much closer to the truth than

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00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 2: this bullshit. So they're kind of just calling their bluff.

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Speaker 2: Invest in multial transcreators with both scripted and unscripted program

1088
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 2: across genres, revise internal processes on commissioning and releasing potential

1089
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 2: harmful sensitive content, including but not limited to, evolving parties

1090
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 2: who are part of the subject commentary community and can

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Speaker 2: speak to potential harm or consulta with third party and

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Speaker 2: experts and experts and vendors. So yeah, it goes on

1093
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Speaker 2: for a while. But like I said, man, it's I

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01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 2: don't think anything is gonna happen because essentially Netflix, I

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01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 2: don't think gives a fuck. And they know that these

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Speaker 2: these these Chappelle specials, this is part of the cycle.

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Speaker 4: Now, yes, And also it's one of those things where

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01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 4: they know the populace has a short term memory. People

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Speaker 4: need to need to remember that, even people underneath the

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Speaker 4: sign of my voice, how many times it shit happened

1101
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 4: so quick you forgot about it, like you litting there now,

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Speaker 4: not perfectly either, but it's just like you're oversaturated with

1103
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 4: so much new information and shit constantly changing it constantly

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Speaker 4: at you you will literally forget because your brain is

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Speaker 4: not designed to druggle all those balls.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the trick bag is when you're dealing with Chapelle,

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Speaker 2: he's the one that's gonna keep it going. So Netflix

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01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 2: actually has no control over this now, Like they wanted

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Speaker 2: to dip in that paint brush and paint with a

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01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 2: little bit of it, but not the whole bucket. But

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Speaker 2: Day's gonna paint with the whole bucket. So you can't

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Speaker 2: cut it off because he's gonna keep this going. And

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Speaker 2: as long as you have these employees there, and because

1114
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Speaker 2: now the back and forth is really between him and

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Speaker 2: those employees, he's trying to act like his corporate interest,

1116
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 2: but he's playing this shell game of like he thanks

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Speaker 2: Ted Saranos, the dude that I just read that statement from,

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Speaker 2: He thanks him and the piece saying he's the only

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Speaker 2: person that got his back. So that guy is the

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Speaker 2: guy that got Dave Chappelle back, according to Dave Chapelle,

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Speaker 2: So how can his trans employees feel like he got

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Speaker 2: they back? They can't, so they like, you know, this

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Speaker 2: is like trying to This is like going into a

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Speaker 2: party and trying to play R. Kelly records and being

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Speaker 2: like what, Like, that's really what it's like when people go, man,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to hear that shit. You gotta be like, what,

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01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 2: it's just music, so what we can't listen to James

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Speaker 2: Brown or none of these others. And it's like, now

1129
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Speaker 2: you're having this conversation and no one's having a party anymore.

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Speaker 2: Republican backers ghost ghost wrote a bill that would publish

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Speaker 2: homosexuality with death and Ghanam they do this shit all

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Speaker 2: the time because this is what they really want in

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Speaker 2: America is just our laws aren't really allowing them to

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Speaker 2: have it right.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if alos ever allowed them to

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01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 1: go to that, but they want you to get close

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Speaker 1: enough to it though.

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Speaker 2: They want to put people to death for being gay

1139
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 2: if they like, if they could, they would do that

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Speaker 2: because their belief is is in the Bible that you

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01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 2: can't be gay, and if you are, they're not just

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Speaker 2: like if you are, forgive the Center. They're like, if

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Speaker 2: you are go to prison, we gonna kill you. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna spend money to equate this with pedophilia and other crimes.

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01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 2: You know, so that's what they're doing. But yeah, not

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01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 2: shocked at all. And some of these African nations allow

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Speaker 2: people to do that because they flood them with a

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Speaker 2: lot of money, a lot of money. So I know

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Speaker 2: you Ganda's had this. This is wild, all right. Let's

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Speaker 2: move into some other news from this other upbeat l

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Speaker 2: g B t Q segment that everybody loves to some

1152
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Speaker 2: fucking with black people.

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01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 7: Walking with black people, walking with black people, walking with

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Speaker 7: black people, walking with black.

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Speaker 2: People, fucking with black people. The game. We go around

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Speaker 2: the globe, find different articles make us fel fun. What

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Speaker 2: the will stop points course is zo T one hundred

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Speaker 2: andals twenty five today's contestants, everybody, Let's get to this

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01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 2: news article about some.

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Speaker 1: Days soos went up at a troubled school.

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Speaker 4: Who answered the call A bunch of dad's.

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Speaker 1: Here, CBS is Steve Hartman on the road.

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Speaker 5: Not many good news stories begin in such a bad

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Speaker 5: news way. It happened last month here at Southwood High

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01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 5: School in Shreveport, Louisiana, lay with violence over the course

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Speaker 5: of three days another fight. Twenty three students arrested for

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01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 5: fighting massive pas. Strangely, there hasn't been another incident since,

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Speaker 5: perhaps in part because of this most unusual crisis intervention team.

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Speaker 5: Nobody here has a degree in school counseling. No major's

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Speaker 5: in criminal justice. Your qualifications are day.

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Speaker 2: We decided the best people who can take care of

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Speaker 2: our kids or who for us what we do.

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Speaker 5: So Michael Lafitte started Dad's on duty.

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Speaker 2: We're out doing what we do for our babies.

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Speaker 5: A group of about forty Southwood dads who now hang

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Speaker 5: out at the school in shifts Gold. Today, any negative

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Speaker 5: energy that enters the building has to run a gauntlet

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Speaker 5: of good parenting.

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Speaker 4: What's going on already?

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Speaker 2: You're moving fast. I liked it off. I immediately feel

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Speaker 2: a form of safety. We stopped fighting, people started going

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Speaker 2: to class.

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Speaker 5: How could that be? You ever heard of a look

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Speaker 5: a look dad's having the power to do that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, not many people know it, but yes, that's going.

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Speaker 1: That's going.

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Speaker 5: But it's not just the firm stairs and stern warnings.

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Speaker 5: It's making a class, my son. It's also the dad

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Speaker 5: jokes they.

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Speaker 2: Just made funny. Joe's like, oh, hey, your students on type,

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Speaker 2: but it's really not on tie.

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Speaker 5: And it's that perfect mix of tough love and gentle

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Speaker 5: ribbing that dads do so well that just helped transform

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Speaker 5: this school.

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Speaker 8: The school has really just been like happy and you

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Speaker 8: can feel it, which.

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Speaker 5: Is why the dad's plan to keep coming to Southwood indefinitely.

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Speaker 3: Because not everybody has the father figure.

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Speaker 2: At home more a male period in their life, so

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Speaker 2: just to be here makes a big difference.

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Speaker 5: Do you think you stumbled onto something here? They'd like

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Speaker 5: to start chapters of dads on duty throughout Louisiana eventually

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Speaker 5: take on the country all right, without a fight. Steve

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Speaker 5: Hartman on the road in Shreveport, Louisiana.

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm but yeah, they that that's the story. Uh,

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Speaker 2: the reasons that I with black people, nothing but black

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Speaker 2: men that were the dads that showed up, Which I

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Speaker 2: don't know if that's intentional what they said it is

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Speaker 2: on this black dads, it wasn't on the shirt, or

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Speaker 2: if it's just you know, such a black school, or

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Speaker 2: if white dads was like, we don't you know, we're

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Speaker 2: too busy. I mean, okay, we don't care. But which

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Speaker 2: you know, obviously breaks a lot of molds and uh,

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Speaker 2: and stereotypes and negativity that people have about black fathers

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Speaker 2: and shit like that. But yes, Zeota one hundred.

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Speaker 4: Oh, just dont get a negative. I'm not fucked with

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Speaker 4: at all with this. I think it's wonderful. I think

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Speaker 4: it's beautiful and knowing them if a white parent, if

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Speaker 4: a white dad was to get involved, they would let

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Speaker 4: them get involved too.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it didn't seem exclusionary. But I mean I've

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Speaker 2: just observed that too. Yeah too, I didn't notice a

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Speaker 2: white person involved.

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Speaker 1: And it's one of those things too, to where.

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Speaker 4: I think it's beautiful that they're actually roaman and walking

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Speaker 4: and you know, letting the kids know and just that

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Speaker 4: presence because they're different than the teachers, so like you said,

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Speaker 4: they can joke and laugh with them at things like that.

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Speaker 4: And yes, they're a form of authority, but a different

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Speaker 4: form of authority. And like you say, people ain't fucking

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Speaker 4: around in the hallways. They're getting on the class because

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Speaker 4: now they know they're being washed and monitored. They like

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Speaker 4: they're almost it's like they're in an extension of the staff,

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Speaker 4: even though they might not be getting paid for it.

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Speaker 1: And those things make a difference.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think one of the things that's interesting to

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01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 2: me is at least in this video, they weren't showing

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01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 2: like the father's threatening kids or a lot of the

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01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:34,799
Speaker 2: patriarchal things that we've been taught that fathers are supposed

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Speaker 2: to do, like fuck it, listen, you hit him, he

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01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 2: hit you. You know, fight y'all gonna do this. You know,

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Speaker 2: you better, you can, you better not lose the fight.

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01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:44,719
Speaker 2: You know, don't come home if you know. It wasn't

1244
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 2: none of that shit. It was just like being present

1245
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 2: that I think for a lot. What's funny is a

1246
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 2: lot of times we watch people talk about how being

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01:08:56,960 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 2: present for a child can change everything, and we talk

1248
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 2: about people's lack of presence from their own parents and

1249
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 2: how it affected them and things I had to learn

1250
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:10,760
Speaker 2: and unlearned and all that type of stuff they deal with.

1251
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 2: But you know, when something like this actually happens, somebody

1252
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 2: does step up, especially as like protectors. I think that

1253
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:22,720
Speaker 2: can be a good thing. I think only I did

1254
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 2: see people, you know, a lite who live in the

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01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 2: binary of like black all black men are bad, basically

1256
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:30,800
Speaker 2: like black men are terrible, and this is so this

1257
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:34,640
Speaker 2: has to be terrible too. This is but a lot

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01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:37,800
Speaker 2: of times I'm like, real people don't live in the

1259
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 2: academic world of like Twitter, They're not like, that's not

1260
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 2: you know. It's like when I talk about Da Japelle,

1261
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 2: I don't pretend that like my opinion some mainstream opinion.

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01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 2: That's far from it, you know what I'm saying. I

1263
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 2: know I'm the one that is on the outside looking in,

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01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 2: going yeah, I think this is too far. Most of

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01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 2: the black dudes I know would be like, Nah, that

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01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 2: doesn't bother me all as a fuck, It's just a joke.

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01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 2: This is the mainstream. Look at any comments on Facebook.

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01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:10,679
Speaker 2: Go to Facebook. I follow certain news outlets, especially black ones.

1269
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 2: Look at the comments. I know I'm in a minority, right,

1270
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 2: But at the same time, I'm not on the bandwagon

1271
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 2: like I have to hate I see these black men,

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01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 2: I have to hate them. I have to like I

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01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:27,360
Speaker 2: don't have some issue or some lack of you know

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01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, like that type of thing. And I

1275
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 2: think sometimes that patriarchal shit that people have come to

1276
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:41,680
Speaker 2: really not like. Sometimes that is good. Sometimes that protective

1277
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 2: energy can be a positive. It's something that can be added.

1278
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:48,560
Speaker 2: It's just something that you don't want to have unchecked.

1279
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 2: It's not something you want to have, uh with no

1280
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:55,800
Speaker 2: counterbalance and all this stuff you wanted to come from

1281
01:10:55,840 --> 01:11:00,800
Speaker 2: a healthy place, but it's not always bad. Like that's

1282
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:03,680
Speaker 2: such a simplistic way to look at it. And a

1283
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 2: lot of times the internet and all the words can't help.

1284
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 2: Like yeah, you can come up with all the words.

1285
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 2: And I saw like people like people are saying this

1286
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:18,799
Speaker 2: would be a good solution as a as a post

1287
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 2: about abolition.

1288
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:20,720
Speaker 1: Da da da da.

1289
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 2: I'm like, bruh, none of these people are thinking about

1290
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:25,679
Speaker 2: that shit because they living in the world where kids

1291
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 2: would come to school and fighting every fucking day, so

1292
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,800
Speaker 2: they don't have time for your books. They don't have

1293
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 2: time for the dissertation. And your dissertation ain't helping cause

1294
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:37,080
Speaker 2: where are you giving it? On the internet? Not in

1295
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 2: that school. You're not walking up in there because you're scared.

1296
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:43,280
Speaker 2: And these motherfuckers stepped up and was like, we just

1297
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:46,200
Speaker 2: gonna change the energy. It wasn't like we're gonna hit

1298
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 2: some kids, we're gonna threaten some people. We're just gonna

1299
01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 2: be here and change the energy. And I you know,

1300
01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 2: if there's any hippie shit I believe in, that's the

1301
01:11:56,040 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 2: one is. I believe in changing energy one hundred percent.

1302
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:04,559
Speaker 2: I think it's absolutely positive, positive possible, and I think

1303
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:07,920
Speaker 2: it happens all the time where somebody decides, I'm just

1304
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 2: gonna change the energy we're experiencing right now, and motherfuckers,

1305
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:14,280
Speaker 2: for the most part, will react to that, you know.

1306
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 2: And I think when you bring in people with a

1307
01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:19,840
Speaker 2: positive attitude, jovial and being like, hey, we just gonna

1308
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 2: have a good time, We're not gonna get caught up

1309
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 2: in all this blah blah blah, it really can make

1310
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:26,719
Speaker 2: those kids be like, yeah, man, I'm not gonna fight,

1311
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:30,120
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like I just like and

1312
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 2: I don't even know why I don't want to fight today,

1313
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 2: but I don't want to fight no.

1314
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 4: More, right, And it changes the atmosphere that the way

1315
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 4: that sounds sound like something may have been like over

1316
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 4: the school, Like like you said, the energy of the

1317
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 4: school was just angry, and a lot of times that's

1318
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:45,880
Speaker 4: where fighting comes from, anger from like it shit happening,

1319
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 4: I turn funny outside of the home that rolled up

1320
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:51,639
Speaker 4: into the school every day, and motherfuckers just want to fight.

1321
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 2: And I'll add one more thing. I remember another article

1322
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:57,320
Speaker 2: we covered last year where black woman was being harassed

1323
01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 2: by some racist people and it's like stating alland or

1324
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 2: some shit. And she talked about how she was scared

1325
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 2: in her own home and a bunch of black men

1326
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 2: went and sat outside her fucking home and it was like,

1327
01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:11,920
Speaker 2: I fucking dare y'all every day do something and it

1328
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 2: changed everything, and that shit, you know it wasn't you know?

1329
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:18,479
Speaker 2: Like I said, we can get so bogged down into

1330
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 2: the most negative examples of especially when it comes to

1331
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:25,559
Speaker 2: gender and the gender wars on social media. We can

1332
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 2: get bogged down in so much negativity that I think

1333
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:31,679
Speaker 2: people forget that for every negative thing, there's a positive

1334
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:36,240
Speaker 2: side to it too. And sometimes you need somebody that'll

1335
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:39,280
Speaker 2: whoop somebody's has, or you need somebody that'll come in

1336
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:42,839
Speaker 2: and make the dad jokes and make it goofy, because

1337
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 2: you know, for a large part, for a large extent,

1338
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:52,280
Speaker 2: man people love their dads. Or if they hate something

1339
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 2: about them, it'd be the fact they wasn't there, or

1340
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 2: the fact that when they was that they was making

1341
01:13:57,000 --> 01:14:00,160
Speaker 2: shit worse on purpose, as opposed to something like this,

1342
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 2: when you got people that want to step up. Now

1343
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:05,760
Speaker 2: I'm not saying women couldn't have done this, so there's

1344
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 2: not something but nobody was doing it. So these dudes

1345
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:10,880
Speaker 2: stepped up and did something, and I just think that's

1346
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:13,599
Speaker 2: something that needs to be acknowledged and commended. And I'm

1347
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:16,599
Speaker 2: not fucked with at all by this, and I hope

1348
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 2: it does turn out well. We'll see if they expanded

1349
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:21,680
Speaker 2: and all that stuff. I don't know how many other

1350
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 2: school systems are having this exact type of problem, but

1351
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:26,639
Speaker 2: I think just knowing that there's some men out there

1352
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:29,720
Speaker 2: that care, because I would imagine a lot of the

1353
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 2: people fighting probably was black boys, black males, at least

1354
01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 2: for those videos they were showing. Having people that give

1355
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:41,000
Speaker 2: a fuck about you can change a lot, and people

1356
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 2: don't acknowledge that enough.

1357
01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, And something people underestimating children. Children need consistency. I

1358
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:52,720
Speaker 4: don't think people realize that. And these men being consistently

1359
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:56,760
Speaker 4: there made a difference. They were going, oh, missus son,

1360
01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:59,839
Speaker 4: so he gonna be here every Monday, but Wednesday and Friday,

1361
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:04,040
Speaker 4: so they know when he comes, they gonna crack them jokes,

1362
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:08,840
Speaker 4: they gonna make them smile, Like. People underestimate consistency and

1363
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 4: y'all you're actually needing and deserving that in their lives.

1364
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:14,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I really think that's a result of like

1365
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 2: how polarized our online communications are because we have decided

1366
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:20,920
Speaker 2: everything must be win or lose all or nothing good

1367
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 2: or bad. And while I mean shit, I'm just as

1368
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 2: critical of black male patriarchy as anybody else I would imagine,

1369
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:37,320
Speaker 2: but I'm not so completely beholden to like this, Like

1370
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:41,080
Speaker 2: it's not out of some level of disdain or trauma

1371
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:43,640
Speaker 2: or whatever the fuck. It's still this level of like,

1372
01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:48,680
Speaker 2: because I think that is love. Like it's okay to

1373
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 2: be like, hey man, you know you shape up a

1374
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:54,639
Speaker 2: little bit. We like, it ain't making you a bad

1375
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:56,639
Speaker 2: person or nothing for me to say, hey, you don't

1376
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:58,760
Speaker 2: have to do that, especially if all I'm saying is

1377
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:01,519
Speaker 2: you don't have to hurt some other person. I'm not saying,

1378
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:04,400
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not saying you're a terrible piece of

1379
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 2: shit like so many people say. I'm saying, like, hey,

1380
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 2: hey you can, you can? You can you can drop that.

1381
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:13,000
Speaker 2: So I think it's interesting because a lot of times

1382
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:20,640
Speaker 2: that energy of protection, of affection, of what that triviality

1383
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 2: you need that, and you can see when it's lacking

1384
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 2: so many people's lives. You'll be like, you know, hey,

1385
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:28,840
Speaker 2: I grew up in the house it wasn't no joke.

1386
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:31,280
Speaker 2: So when this person died, man, all the fun went

1387
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:33,599
Speaker 2: out of our lives. And it's like, cause you you

1388
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:35,760
Speaker 2: kind of need that. And unfortunately in America, a lot

1389
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 2: of that's associated with mel being a man. You know

1390
01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, But it doesn't have to be. But

1391
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:44,599
Speaker 2: that's just how it is for a lot of folks. So, yeah, man,

1392
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:46,719
Speaker 2: I thought I thought there was good on these brothers.

1393
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:49,120
Speaker 2: I hope it continues to be a positive thing. I

1394
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:52,320
Speaker 2: hope they're as good as their word about saying they're

1395
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 2: gonna do it indefinitely, especially if it's just somethinghere, they

1396
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 2: got to show up before school, you was already driving

1397
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 2: your kid ghoul or whatever the fuck, and you just gotta,

1398
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:05,680
Speaker 2: you know, say hey, you know what's up kids? You

1399
01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, how y'all doing, y'all have a

1400
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:11,800
Speaker 2: good day. And it works cause everybody, just about even

1401
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 2: if you fucking say I hate all men, I hate

1402
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 2: all this that other, everybody got at least one or

1403
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:20,560
Speaker 2: two people in their lives that stepped up in a

1404
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:22,920
Speaker 2: way that they went that that motherfucker was a good

1405
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 2: person and they changed my life regardless. Yeah, yeah, almost

1406
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:29,639
Speaker 2: everybody cause it's just too many people in the world

1407
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:31,599
Speaker 2: for it to be one hundred percent of the people

1408
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:34,679
Speaker 2: all the time. We're terrible to me, right, So almost

1409
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 2: everybody got that person where even when you're talking in

1410
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 2: your mind you're excluding them. You're like, man, you know,

1411
01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 2: niggas do this, that and the other, and I hate that,

1412
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 2: but you're like, well, not mine, daddy, but you know

1413
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 2: everybody else, daddy, or whatever our people rationalize it, I'm not.

1414
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 2: But my point being like, ho, if those people step up,

1415
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:56,000
Speaker 2: that's positive. That's what we need. I'm tired of good

1416
01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:58,559
Speaker 2: people feeling like they shouldn't do shit, or they need

1417
01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 2: to stand by, or they need or because they're not perfect,

1418
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:04,160
Speaker 2: they shouldn't try to help it all. And if something

1419
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 2: goes wrong in there, and and and and they need

1420
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:10,879
Speaker 2: somebody to come in and rein this in or advise

1421
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 2: or just I hope that people are willing to listen

1422
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:16,280
Speaker 2: and that that and that that continues me too.

1423
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 4: And it bothered me at first, but then I was like, no,

1424
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:26,599
Speaker 4: I understand is the fact that they was they asked them,

1425
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:29,080
Speaker 4: you know, did they have any degrees? But they're educating.

1426
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:32,160
Speaker 4: That bothered me at first, But even asked, right right, right,

1427
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:34,320
Speaker 4: right right, Like something in me fled up, like why

1428
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:36,320
Speaker 4: fuck did that matter? But then I thought about it

1429
01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 4: a little bit. I was like, I'm glad they asked

1430
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:44,839
Speaker 4: just for the fact that they letting people know that normal,

1431
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 4: everyday men without all these degrees and all these letters

1432
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 4: behind their names can make a difference. And there are

1433
01:18:53,680 --> 01:19:00,080
Speaker 4: a lot of beautiful, wonderful, smart, very very very very

1434
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 4: educated people out there that can make a change that

1435
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 4: don't got no degrees, Like they might not have the

1436
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:09,320
Speaker 4: big fancy words, they might not have read all the

1437
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:12,400
Speaker 4: books they but you know what they can do show

1438
01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 4: their ass up there every day and tell that kid

1439
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:18,439
Speaker 4: do the right thing. Even though this kid might be

1440
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:20,640
Speaker 4: doing math or something that they've never heard of in

1441
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:23,240
Speaker 4: they life, it does not matter. They are there and

1442
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 4: that's the thing that matters. So I at first it

1443
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 4: really did bother people that I thought. I was say,

1444
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 4: you know what, you do need to let people know

1445
01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 4: that a normal, average person can shape the youth along

1446
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 4: with the educated people, like like we all can do

1447
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:38,920
Speaker 4: this together.

1448
01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 1: Like learning does not always come from the educated people.

1449
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:47,600
Speaker 4: There are people that have touched people lives that are illiterate,

1450
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 4: can't read, can't write, but you know what they did,

1451
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 4: They taught them things that would last them a lifetime.

1452
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:56,160
Speaker 2: Well. Also, at least from my experience, it's a lot

1453
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:59,040
Speaker 2: of people that use the fact that they are educated

1454
01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:02,040
Speaker 2: and know the ten dollars words to be like, I

1455
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:06,680
Speaker 2: can justify being horrible because I have all the words.

1456
01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:10,559
Speaker 2: So when I make a decision that is actually kind

1457
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:13,559
Speaker 2: of fucked up in the abstract, I can put it

1458
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:15,559
Speaker 2: in a different kind of context if I talk about

1459
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:18,639
Speaker 2: it long enough to where now everybody got to go, well,

1460
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:21,880
Speaker 2: you know, they didn't. And I think a lot of

1461
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:25,400
Speaker 2: times most of us, matter of fact, not even a

1462
01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:28,280
Speaker 2: lot of times for black people, probably almost one hundred

1463
01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:33,479
Speaker 2: percent of us are affected by black people who were

1464
01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 2: not educated in those ways because the black people weren't

1465
01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:39,639
Speaker 2: allowed to be or they made the way so hard.

1466
01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:45,519
Speaker 2: So we understand something on a level that that a

1467
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 2: lot of people don't get because a class and whatnot.

1468
01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:52,200
Speaker 2: But we have people that have touched our lives in

1469
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 2: positive ways that don't have any of the training, any

1470
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:58,080
Speaker 2: of the books, any of the of the education, any

1471
01:20:58,120 --> 01:21:01,080
Speaker 2: of the degrees, because they weren't even allowed to have

1472
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 2: those things in the first place. But what they did

1473
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:06,200
Speaker 2: have was a good heart and a good soul and

1474
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:11,360
Speaker 2: good intentions, and it only I find the most privileged

1475
01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:15,840
Speaker 2: statement to be intent doesn't matter. I find that to

1476
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:18,280
Speaker 2: be the most privileged statement a person can make, because

1477
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 2: what you're really saying is I'm judging shit on such

1478
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:23,840
Speaker 2: a high level. I don't even give a fuck about

1479
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:26,280
Speaker 2: how this started. And I'm like, that's to me, that

1480
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:29,640
Speaker 2: sound like white people shit. Intent matters a lot to me.

1481
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 2: It's not the only thing that matters. The result obviously

1482
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:38,320
Speaker 2: matters too, and good intentions can can hurt people as

1483
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 2: well as ill intentions. But to throw that out as

1484
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:46,480
Speaker 2: if that's not part of the pie, it is ridiculous,

1485
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:49,760
Speaker 2: you know. I mean, it's literally why our laws have

1486
01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:53,360
Speaker 2: intent in there. The difference between manslaughter and murder, the

1487
01:21:53,360 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 2: difference between negligence and homicide is intent, right, And some

1488
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:03,320
Speaker 2: people would be like, well they did, that's all that mattered.

1489
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:07,839
Speaker 2: But I'm like, it mattered to me if you killed

1490
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:11,360
Speaker 2: somebody because you were negligent and or because you didn't

1491
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:13,880
Speaker 2: know something, or because it was an accident, that is

1492
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 2: way different than you walked in my house and shot

1493
01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:19,679
Speaker 2: me to death or whatever. But also in addition to that,

1494
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 2: the intent and the good heart. You might not have

1495
01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:28,720
Speaker 2: the words. You know, all these pot dollar words we

1496
01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:30,680
Speaker 2: use on the podcast, so that I've read and I

1497
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:33,760
Speaker 2: know that don't mean shit. When I'm just talking to

1498
01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 2: a regular ass dude. We playing basketball, or we're at

1499
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:40,920
Speaker 2: the gym, or we're at the bar. They don't know

1500
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:44,559
Speaker 2: this shit, you know what I'm saying. Like the people

1501
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:46,519
Speaker 2: talking about code switching as a way to like fit

1502
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:50,679
Speaker 2: into whiteness, but sometimes code switching is also this way

1503
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 2: of saying like, hey, hey, hey, I'm black, you black.

1504
01:22:55,479 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 2: We're brothers, we're sisters, we're siblings, we're family. I'm talking

1505
01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:03,680
Speaker 2: to you the way I just talk, and maybe I

1506
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:09,040
Speaker 2: can break down something like intersectionality into bruh, you don't

1507
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 2: just care about people if they so, you don't care

1508
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:14,599
Speaker 2: about other black people if they gay. Now, that might

1509
01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:17,360
Speaker 2: not fly on Twitter because they would have bound you

1510
01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:19,040
Speaker 2: know what you see all the time with Twitter. One

1511
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:21,360
Speaker 2: of the man this thing that you didn't say the

1512
01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:24,400
Speaker 2: perfect way, And it's like, Nigga, because I'm not always

1513
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:26,559
Speaker 2: talking to you and I'm not trying to get a

1514
01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:30,360
Speaker 2: fucking advanced degree in this shit. I'm talking in order

1515
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:34,360
Speaker 2: to make myself understood, and sometimes making yourself understood mean

1516
01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:36,880
Speaker 2: you got to take that shit out and be like,

1517
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:38,559
Speaker 2: I'm talking to you the way I'll talk to any

1518
01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:41,160
Speaker 2: other niggas so that you understand even with the shit

1519
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 2: I'm talking about, is your heart. And there's plenty of

1520
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:47,040
Speaker 2: people that got good hearts. You know, me and Justin

1521
01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:49,360
Speaker 2: have done that before. We play ball with somebody and

1522
01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:52,479
Speaker 2: they say some repugnant shit and we call them on

1523
01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 2: it and start laughing and joking on them, maybe mocking

1524
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:58,360
Speaker 2: them a little bit. But I'd say a good portion

1525
01:23:58,439 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 2: of the time those people will come back to us

1526
01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:02,920
Speaker 2: later like, hey, man, you know that thing you were saying, Man,

1527
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 2: that's you. I know you're right, man, I shouldn't have

1528
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:06,760
Speaker 2: said that, and I'm not gonna say that no more

1529
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:10,200
Speaker 2: or whatever. And I'm like, oh, cool, good because I

1530
01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:11,519
Speaker 2: don't want to stunt on you. I don't want to

1531
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:13,240
Speaker 2: dunk on you. I'm not trying to go viral. This

1532
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 2: is just the world became a little bit better because

1533
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 2: your ass ain't gonna do that stupid ass shit no more.

1534
01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 2: And that's all I need to happen.

1535
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:22,519
Speaker 4: It's all you need to happen, and not to get

1536
01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:25,640
Speaker 4: off topic. I remember you and Justin ivn Je was

1537
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:29,120
Speaker 4: joking about how hugging and how y'all would come in

1538
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:31,200
Speaker 4: and hug and all of a sudden people are like

1539
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:34,280
Speaker 4: the most resistant and would get mad at y'all and

1540
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:35,840
Speaker 4: and and the reality.

1541
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:38,880
Speaker 1: All they really wanted was a hug. But how to

1542
01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:39,799
Speaker 1: express that.

1543
01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 2: That's a true story, my man, Chris, Uh yeah, just

1544
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:47,200
Speaker 2: Napoleon complex. But he's one of those guys that I

1545
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:52,080
Speaker 2: think comes off like a little abrasive, but he's you know,

1546
01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:54,519
Speaker 2: I have a way of kind of breaking people down.

1547
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:56,880
Speaker 2: They have a good time with me, they see I'm funny,

1548
01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 2: and then they start wanting to be in on the jokes,

1549
01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 2: and you know, I teasing them a little bit and

1550
01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 2: stuff like that, and they tease back and I don't

1551
01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 2: get upset by it and ship. So he was one

1552
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 2: of those dudes where, like, you know, just projected a

1553
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:14,519
Speaker 2: lot of anger and shit. But one time Justin came

1554
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:16,519
Speaker 2: in the gym, because Justin would see me all the

1555
01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:18,720
Speaker 2: time and coming to gym, and we would be like,

1556
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:21,120
Speaker 2: you know, like all nigga want my hug at what him?

1557
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:23,240
Speaker 2: You know, cause brothers always do the dap up hit

1558
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 2: each other hard on the back, and so we'd be like,

1559
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:27,519
Speaker 2: nigga want my hug at or whatever, and it's like, oh,

1560
01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:31,240
Speaker 2: you know, give him a hug. And one time Justin

1561
01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:34,840
Speaker 2: beat me to the gym and Chris was in there

1562
01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:37,679
Speaker 2: and he's like, Chris, man with my hug at. Chris like, nigga,

1563
01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:39,639
Speaker 2: get on home me. I don't want no hug. All

1564
01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:42,479
Speaker 2: this shit made a big deal out of it. And

1565
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:45,040
Speaker 2: then I came in like like a couple of minutes

1566
01:25:45,080 --> 01:25:47,519
Speaker 2: later and did this. You know, Justin was like, wave

1567
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:47,920
Speaker 2: a hug.

1568
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:48,640
Speaker 1: I was like, what's up?

1569
01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:52,840
Speaker 2: You know all that shit and uh no.

1570
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:53,160
Speaker 1: Lot.

1571
01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:57,000
Speaker 2: Then Justin joked on Chris like, man, can you believe this?

1572
01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:58,920
Speaker 2: Fuck this niggadn't want me to hug him? Man, what's

1573
01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:00,880
Speaker 2: wrong with him? We was like yeah, like damn, you're

1574
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 2: scared of a hug? What what you what you're afraid of?

1575
01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:05,000
Speaker 2: You think it's gonna make you gay or something. It's

1576
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:07,439
Speaker 2: just a hug, man, Like you don't hug your family

1577
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:10,000
Speaker 2: like you see us fucking four five times a week. Brother,

1578
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:13,120
Speaker 2: we can't get a hug like you know. But you know,

1579
01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:16,240
Speaker 2: obviously just jokes. If somebody don't want to hug. It's

1580
01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 2: really that you know. But but but it was. But

1581
01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:24,200
Speaker 2: we know Chris enough to joke with them. But then

1582
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:27,160
Speaker 2: like next week we were playing ball and we came

1583
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:29,360
Speaker 2: in and then he was like, where my hug at?

1584
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:31,639
Speaker 1: Man? So y'all ain't giving out nothing more hugs.

1585
01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:33,760
Speaker 2: I can't get a hug. No, it was like it

1586
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 2: was like cool because honestly, as a straight black dude,

1587
01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:40,599
Speaker 2: we don't really get to do that. Like and I'm

1588
01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:42,639
Speaker 2: not saying because no one won't let us, but because

1589
01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 2: we won't let ourselves cause like I don't want to

1590
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:46,880
Speaker 2: be sold all the time.

1591
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:49,639
Speaker 1: That's the reading. We'll start squilling and hugging each other.

1592
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:52,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it's just a level because it's physical contact.

1593
01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:55,680
Speaker 2: Never I wanted to say something like a nigga, look

1594
01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:58,000
Speaker 2: at you boy, you look I get like you. That's fine,

1595
01:26:58,040 --> 01:27:00,479
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. I see you've been working out.

1596
01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:04,240
Speaker 2: That's fine too. But something about the physical contact of

1597
01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:06,920
Speaker 2: a hug other than just a pound or whatever the

1598
01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:10,120
Speaker 2: fuck it was. But that's a little thing. Like he

1599
01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:13,120
Speaker 2: Chris is not a bad person. We weren't judging him not,

1600
01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:16,360
Speaker 2: we weren't like you homophobic, just that or it was

1601
01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:19,479
Speaker 2: just life shit, And I'm saying it just changed the

1602
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:23,800
Speaker 2: energy because he had a standoff his energy. But then

1603
01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:27,040
Speaker 2: I feel like after that we kind of became closer

1604
01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:30,920
Speaker 2: friends because that energy was gone, because it was like, Nigga,

1605
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:32,479
Speaker 2: you don't have to do that for us. We're gonna

1606
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:34,360
Speaker 2: respect you regardless.

1607
01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:37,760
Speaker 4: We're not here to challenge a question in your manhood.

1608
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:39,960
Speaker 2: Right, And I think so, I think these dudes are

1609
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:43,520
Speaker 2: kind of adding that to the especially for these boys

1610
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:45,880
Speaker 2: that were fighting. A lot of them were looking at

1611
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:49,840
Speaker 2: it like, this is what masculinity is. Yes, you know,

1612
01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 2: I know we're way off top and we probably won't

1613
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 2: get to the other shot segments, but I want to

1614
01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:57,200
Speaker 2: finish this thought. For a lot of boys, this is

1615
01:27:57,200 --> 01:27:59,439
Speaker 2: what masculinity is. This is what I have to become.

1616
01:27:59,479 --> 01:28:01,400
Speaker 2: And a lot of how we define manhood is about

1617
01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:05,040
Speaker 2: the propensity to do damage, and so the propensity in

1618
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:07,799
Speaker 2: the ability to do damage. It's one of the reasons

1619
01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:09,960
Speaker 2: that so much of what Dave Chappelle's talking about has

1620
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:15,840
Speaker 2: become entrapped in this black masculinity conversation, because what's more

1621
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:19,600
Speaker 2: masculine than going out on the stage and damaging everybody

1622
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:24,120
Speaker 2: who's not you? Saying fuck you to everybody's that makes

1623
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:26,000
Speaker 2: people feel like men. That's why you see so many

1624
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:29,200
Speaker 2: black dudes gravitate to it, because that feeling, that defiance

1625
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:33,680
Speaker 2: makes us. We define manhood by it. Black men in

1626
01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 2: general is existing in America is an existence of defiance.

1627
01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:39,879
Speaker 2: And this is not to say no one else's experienced this, obviously,

1628
01:28:40,240 --> 01:28:43,800
Speaker 2: that's you know, there's levels to this, but a lot

1629
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:47,280
Speaker 2: of how we define masculinity is in how much are

1630
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:50,479
Speaker 2: we defiant? How much can we harm it other person?

1631
01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:53,720
Speaker 2: Is it's a physical altercation, can we beat them up

1632
01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 2: in a fight? Killing somebody? You know, how much of

1633
01:28:57,200 --> 01:29:00,080
Speaker 2: our music is around how much we hurt women, how

1634
01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:03,240
Speaker 2: much you hurt gay people? How like? That's what makes

1635
01:29:03,320 --> 01:29:08,320
Speaker 2: me move up on the level of man of sis

1636
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:14,400
Speaker 2: had black man? Is how much how much damage am

1637
01:29:14,439 --> 01:29:15,719
Speaker 2: I capable of doing?

1638
01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:16,679
Speaker 1: Right?

1639
01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:20,880
Speaker 2: And I think that's where a lot of people get.

1640
01:29:21,439 --> 01:29:25,360
Speaker 2: That's where a lot of people, even when you're a child,

1641
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:29,439
Speaker 2: you start looking at that as, oh, yeah, this is

1642
01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:32,439
Speaker 2: what it is to be a man. So when you're

1643
01:29:32,439 --> 01:29:35,479
Speaker 2: going to school fighting, you're saying, especially the age those

1644
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:38,040
Speaker 2: kids were in those videos, that's the age when you're

1645
01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:41,679
Speaker 2: going this is me starting to do what men do right,

1646
01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:46,559
Speaker 2: whether it be you know, however that's defined right. And

1647
01:29:46,600 --> 01:29:48,400
Speaker 2: the people I look up to and the people that

1648
01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:51,479
Speaker 2: i've you know, I've managed to say this is what.

1649
01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:54,439
Speaker 2: So you need people that's like, you know, nah, A

1650
01:29:54,520 --> 01:29:57,320
Speaker 2: man handles his business, a man goes to class. A man,

1651
01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:01,479
Speaker 2: if you make a promise to to go do your job,

1652
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:03,880
Speaker 2: you go to your jo, do your job. And if

1653
01:30:04,240 --> 01:30:08,400
Speaker 2: and a man doesn't have to be mean or violent

1654
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:16,479
Speaker 2: or angry and stand office. A man can be making

1655
01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:19,880
Speaker 2: dad jokes in front of the building at seven in.

1656
01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:22,439
Speaker 4: The morning, yes, and not care and know it's all right,

1657
01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:28,040
Speaker 4: and know that it's okay. And I know, going back

1658
01:30:28,040 --> 01:30:31,400
Speaker 4: to what you're talking about before about the big letter words,

1659
01:30:31,880 --> 01:30:35,960
Speaker 4: I know for me, and it's I know it's not everybody,

1660
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:39,080
Speaker 4: but to an extent, it's the big let of words.

1661
01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:41,120
Speaker 4: Turned me off on a lot of blackademics just's being

1662
01:30:41,160 --> 01:30:44,800
Speaker 4: online for long enough because I'm like, oh, y'all just

1663
01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:47,720
Speaker 4: throwing these words out there just because you can, and

1664
01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:50,599
Speaker 4: then making people feel bad because they're not on your

1665
01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:52,960
Speaker 4: level or they don't understand. Because the thing I've realized

1666
01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:57,200
Speaker 4: over my years of life is that your knowledge in

1667
01:30:57,240 --> 01:31:02,600
Speaker 4: what you know means absolutely positively nothing if you cannot

1668
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:06,680
Speaker 4: tell or show somebody the knowledge just withinside you. If

1669
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:09,439
Speaker 4: you've got knowledge and your knowledge only sits within yourself,

1670
01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:11,360
Speaker 4: it is a worthless amount of knowledge.

1671
01:31:11,439 --> 01:31:15,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, the ability to communicate it is where that's what

1672
01:31:15,240 --> 01:31:18,760
Speaker 2: makes you smart, right, knowing the shit. Anybody can memorize

1673
01:31:18,760 --> 01:31:20,040
Speaker 2: some shit, but.

1674
01:31:20,240 --> 01:31:22,800
Speaker 1: Ability to break it down where a child can understand it.

1675
01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:27,120
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? People? People? What do they

1676
01:31:27,120 --> 01:31:28,000
Speaker 2: call people you don't like?

1677
01:31:28,080 --> 01:31:28,200
Speaker 3: Know?

1678
01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:31,360
Speaker 2: It alls like, yeah, you know everything, But the way

1679
01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:34,640
Speaker 2: you fucking tell me is why don't fuck with you?

1680
01:31:34,640 --> 01:31:36,679
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. So I think, yeah, there's

1681
01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:39,479
Speaker 2: absolutely a value to that and speaking plainly to people.

1682
01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:43,160
Speaker 2: And and like I said, no, these dudes might not

1683
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:47,599
Speaker 2: be the fucking PhDs. They also, you know, there's different

1684
01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:49,800
Speaker 2: types of black men. They also don't seem to be

1685
01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:52,360
Speaker 2: the like put on a suit, you know, one hundred

1686
01:31:52,360 --> 01:31:54,360
Speaker 2: black men in a suit, marching type of black men.

1687
01:31:54,439 --> 01:31:57,360
Speaker 2: They seem like on some other shit. And it seemed

1688
01:31:57,360 --> 01:31:59,320
Speaker 2: like they just came there to change the energy and

1689
01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:01,680
Speaker 2: it worked and is beautiful and I love it, and

1690
01:32:01,720 --> 01:32:04,200
Speaker 2: I love that kind of shit. And I think at

1691
01:32:04,360 --> 01:32:07,640
Speaker 2: the highest heights of like how we can contribute to

1692
01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:14,320
Speaker 2: the the echosystem of the black community. Those are the

1693
01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:16,720
Speaker 2: things I look forward to. And I go, man, that

1694
01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:18,880
Speaker 2: made me feel good, you know what I'm saying, because

1695
01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:22,960
Speaker 2: that's because that's a part of this too, and that

1696
01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:26,200
Speaker 2: shows like what we could be promoted, you know what

1697
01:32:26,240 --> 01:32:29,439
Speaker 2: I'm saying, as opposed to like this weird form of

1698
01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:33,400
Speaker 2: like dominance and hierarchy and being on top or when

1699
01:32:33,439 --> 01:32:36,160
Speaker 2: I say, man, I mean all this, you know, twelve

1700
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:40,080
Speaker 2: different negative things about dominating people and damaging people and

1701
01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:44,320
Speaker 2: restricting other people and all that type of shit. Now,

1702
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:47,240
Speaker 2: who knows, these brothers might have some other issues. They

1703
01:32:47,320 --> 01:32:49,679
Speaker 2: might all go home watch stage pel they might all

1704
01:32:50,240 --> 01:32:52,160
Speaker 2: go to church and talk bad about gave you. I

1705
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:55,400
Speaker 2: don't know these dudes, but just within the context of

1706
01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:59,160
Speaker 2: just solving that particular problem or trying to help, like

1707
01:33:00,240 --> 01:33:02,559
Speaker 2: I appreciate that. And the same thing, like I said,

1708
01:33:02,560 --> 01:33:06,519
Speaker 2: with that sister in New York or New Jersey that

1709
01:33:06,600 --> 01:33:09,240
Speaker 2: was dealing with the racism, and them brothers just showed

1710
01:33:09,320 --> 01:33:11,200
Speaker 2: up on the front like I wish a motherfucker would,

1711
01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:13,479
Speaker 2: and it stopped. It stopped so loud as you need

1712
01:33:13,479 --> 01:33:16,080
Speaker 2: that shit, whether people like it or not. The world

1713
01:33:16,120 --> 01:33:18,480
Speaker 2: ain't a nice place and it definitely ain't no motherfucking

1714
01:33:18,600 --> 01:33:23,120
Speaker 2: like theoretical debate. It's real life, right, and sometimes the

1715
01:33:23,160 --> 01:33:26,440
Speaker 2: motherfucker showing up like I will rock your motherfucking snotbox

1716
01:33:26,479 --> 01:33:28,360
Speaker 2: if you don't leave my girl alone, or you don't

1717
01:33:28,439 --> 01:33:32,080
Speaker 2: leave the sister alone, sometimes is what you need, you know.

1718
01:33:32,120 --> 01:33:34,519
Speaker 2: I was reading a story about Philadelphia where some woman

1719
01:33:34,680 --> 01:33:37,240
Speaker 2: was sexualistauted on a train and people stood and watched

1720
01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:41,479
Speaker 2: and didn't do shit, and the person driving the train

1721
01:33:41,560 --> 01:33:44,920
Speaker 2: had to like, had they stopped it after like eight

1722
01:33:44,960 --> 01:33:46,840
Speaker 2: minutes and called the police. No, people didn't even call

1723
01:33:46,880 --> 01:33:49,639
Speaker 2: the police. Some people said they think they were even

1724
01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:54,719
Speaker 2: filming filming it rather than to say anything, you know what, yes, yes,

1725
01:33:55,439 --> 01:33:59,240
Speaker 2: And the feeling you have right now is the feeling

1726
01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:01,600
Speaker 2: everybody had, and I don't give a fuck off you

1727
01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:08,120
Speaker 2: anti incarceration at police abolitionists. Everybody has the same feeling,

1728
01:34:08,120 --> 01:34:10,080
Speaker 2: which is, how the fuck could you let that happen?

1729
01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:10,679
Speaker 1: Right?

1730
01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:11,320
Speaker 2: Nobody could?

1731
01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:13,640
Speaker 4: They would have to take us both out because I

1732
01:34:13,680 --> 01:34:16,280
Speaker 4: would try to help in a sister something like that's

1733
01:34:16,360 --> 01:34:18,479
Speaker 4: motherfucking ridetonous, how damn you?

1734
01:34:19,120 --> 01:34:22,680
Speaker 2: Right? And so everybody feels that way. And that's the

1735
01:34:22,760 --> 01:34:25,400
Speaker 2: times when I'm like, yeah, maybe you do want somebody

1736
01:34:25,439 --> 01:34:28,559
Speaker 2: there that would punch the fuck out of that dude. Now,

1737
01:34:28,880 --> 01:34:32,200
Speaker 2: is that toxic and all that shit? Sure, but sometimes

1738
01:34:32,240 --> 01:34:34,760
Speaker 2: in the right situation, you might need somebody sprinkle some

1739
01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:37,720
Speaker 2: toxic on this shit. So it just depends on I'm

1740
01:34:37,760 --> 01:34:41,520
Speaker 2: just it's situational and sometimes, like I said, that patriarchal

1741
01:34:41,560 --> 01:34:44,000
Speaker 2: shit can be exactly what the doctor orders. It's just

1742
01:34:44,040 --> 01:34:46,360
Speaker 2: most of the time it's not correct.

1743
01:34:46,400 --> 01:34:46,679
Speaker 1: Correct.

1744
01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:48,720
Speaker 4: There has to be a time and a place for that.

1745
01:34:49,400 --> 01:34:52,960
Speaker 1: And the thing of it is.

1746
01:34:55,520 --> 01:35:01,400
Speaker 4: How that that's horrific because you know, I'm thinking about, Okay,

1747
01:35:01,439 --> 01:35:03,120
Speaker 4: if this was happening to me and people just watching

1748
01:35:03,160 --> 01:35:05,320
Speaker 4: this and staring at shit, it's like and filming.

1749
01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:07,920
Speaker 1: Motherfucker fuck you.

1750
01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:10,080
Speaker 4: You ought to go to jail for sitting and doing

1751
01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:13,000
Speaker 4: Absolutely it's more y'all than this person.

1752
01:35:14,240 --> 01:35:17,320
Speaker 1: Like this. It's more people on the train than this person.

1753
01:35:18,080 --> 01:35:21,400
Speaker 2: Oh wait, somebody just posted an article in the Oh

1754
01:35:21,439 --> 01:35:25,320
Speaker 2: it's an opinion article, but it's from the Philly Mad

1755
01:35:25,360 --> 01:35:29,160
Speaker 2: that said the police lot about people filming it. They

1756
01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:34,320
Speaker 2: prey had to press the story. M Well, you know what,

1757
01:35:34,439 --> 01:35:38,080
Speaker 2: actually good that's I'm glad that didn't happen, right, because

1758
01:35:38,120 --> 01:35:40,360
Speaker 2: that was a story that was going around and obviously

1759
01:35:40,439 --> 01:35:42,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, if that happened, you want somebody to

1760
01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:45,920
Speaker 2: fuck somebody up. And I'm sure this, you know, whatever

1761
01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:48,280
Speaker 2: this correction is, will not get as big.

1762
01:35:49,640 --> 01:35:51,639
Speaker 1: What's what's the purpose of lying about something like that?

1763
01:35:52,400 --> 01:35:52,639
Speaker 2: Right?

1764
01:35:56,200 --> 01:35:56,400
Speaker 6: Uh?

1765
01:35:57,080 --> 01:35:59,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I wont How did they figure out it

1766
01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:02,120
Speaker 2: wasn't true? Sorry, I'm reading this at the same time

1767
01:36:04,760 --> 01:36:06,960
Speaker 2: as expiritens of reports where it became clear that nobody

1768
01:36:07,000 --> 01:36:08,639
Speaker 2: in the press or public took a moment a question

1769
01:36:08,680 --> 01:36:15,040
Speaker 2: whether they were true. When I first read the headlines,

1770
01:36:15,080 --> 01:36:16,640
Speaker 2: couldn't believe that the city I lived in for a

1771
01:36:16,760 --> 01:36:19,320
Speaker 2: decade was so cruel. I knew this wasn't who we are.

1772
01:36:19,560 --> 01:36:22,200
Speaker 2: Philadelphia was a scrappy take no bullshit, people step up

1773
01:36:22,200 --> 01:36:26,360
Speaker 2: and speak out d D. Someone was lying to us,

1774
01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:28,120
Speaker 2: and it made me go back and check the source,

1775
01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:30,599
Speaker 2: and there you have the police live big fucking time.

1776
01:36:30,640 --> 01:36:32,800
Speaker 2: There's a netve out there that people sat there on

1777
01:36:32,840 --> 01:36:35,519
Speaker 2: the L train and watched this transpired, took videos for

1778
01:36:35,560 --> 01:36:38,400
Speaker 2: their own gratification, and said Delaware County District Attorney Jack

1779
01:36:38,439 --> 01:36:43,200
Speaker 2: Stoles Steimer at a press conference. That is simply not true.

1780
01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:46,040
Speaker 2: It did not happen. We had security video from stept

1781
01:36:46,280 --> 01:36:48,280
Speaker 2: that shows that it is not the narrative.

1782
01:36:48,760 --> 01:36:50,759
Speaker 1: Oh, because they got cameras on the trains.

1783
01:36:50,840 --> 01:36:52,360
Speaker 2: There weren't a lot of people in the car where

1784
01:36:52,439 --> 01:36:54,280
Speaker 2: U saw it took place. Others who saw it were

1785
01:36:54,280 --> 01:36:55,720
Speaker 2: in and out of the train and might not have

1786
01:36:55,800 --> 01:36:58,400
Speaker 2: understood what was going on. In other words, it's complicated

1787
01:36:58,960 --> 01:37:00,040
Speaker 2: more okay.

1788
01:36:59,720 --> 01:37:02,519
Speaker 4: Cool, okay, So and that's just for that makes sense,

1789
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:05,040
Speaker 4: like people getting on and getting off, the moving around

1790
01:37:05,160 --> 01:37:06,519
Speaker 4: like you're not really paying attention.

1791
01:37:07,720 --> 01:37:09,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that does happen when you take the police's

1792
01:37:09,960 --> 01:37:11,840
Speaker 2: word for the ship. So yeah, all right, back to

1793
01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:15,000
Speaker 2: the boutis the police then never mind, all right, let's

1794
01:37:15,000 --> 01:37:17,680
Speaker 2: do one more story. We got on that was a

1795
01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:21,360
Speaker 2: huge tangent. Anyway, Thanks for those dads for stepping up.

1796
01:37:21,760 --> 01:37:23,240
Speaker 1: Yes, shout out to the daddies.

1797
01:37:23,400 --> 01:37:25,000
Speaker 2: Now we just need to put them on all the

1798
01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:29,680
Speaker 2: trains in Philadelphia to change the energy there By the

1799
01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:32,559
Speaker 2: time this is in just the solution for everything. By

1800
01:37:32,600 --> 01:37:35,400
Speaker 2: the time we get to the end, these poor overwork

1801
01:37:35,920 --> 01:37:38,360
Speaker 2: dad's gonna be we're just gonna be sending them places

1802
01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:41,800
Speaker 2: like hey man, they acting up at the Brooklyn Nets

1803
01:37:41,800 --> 01:37:45,200
Speaker 2: Arena to talking about let Kyrie play all right, let

1804
01:37:45,200 --> 01:37:46,679
Speaker 2: me put my bock on his shirt off.

1805
01:37:47,360 --> 01:37:49,879
Speaker 1: They're gonna be the Justice League dad, right, They're.

1806
01:37:49,720 --> 01:37:52,240
Speaker 2: Just gonna be out front like, hey, hey, hey, working hard,

1807
01:37:52,240 --> 01:37:52,840
Speaker 2: hardly working?

1808
01:37:53,400 --> 01:37:54,519
Speaker 1: What's on? All big time?

1809
01:37:54,720 --> 01:37:56,360
Speaker 2: What's going on?

1810
01:37:56,840 --> 01:37:57,599
Speaker 1: I like them cracks.

1811
01:37:58,000 --> 01:38:00,280
Speaker 2: Hey you show one time? You show one tie? Right,

1812
01:38:00,280 --> 01:38:01,519
Speaker 2: and they'd be like, what did I come here for?

1813
01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:05,320
Speaker 2: I thought, are we boycotting? Or are we you know what?

1814
01:38:05,400 --> 01:38:07,680
Speaker 2: I'm going home. That was a good time. Glad them

1815
01:38:07,680 --> 01:38:09,880
Speaker 2: Black Dad showed up, I.

1816
01:38:09,800 --> 01:38:11,840
Speaker 1: Know, But like, why did they put out the card table?

1817
01:38:11,880 --> 01:38:12,160
Speaker 2: I don't.

1818
01:38:12,160 --> 01:38:14,719
Speaker 1: I don't understand, right, Uh?

1819
01:38:14,800 --> 01:38:17,919
Speaker 2: Sorority members upset over Amanda Sells for training the AKA

1820
01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:29,560
Speaker 2: on Insecure. So apparently some people from the akas got upset. Uh,

1821
01:38:30,240 --> 01:38:33,600
Speaker 2: I don't. I will question is there a lot of

1822
01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:35,800
Speaker 2: people or is it just like a few people that

1823
01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:36,920
Speaker 2: went viral on Twitter?

1824
01:38:37,160 --> 01:38:37,400
Speaker 1: Right?

1825
01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:39,080
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1826
01:38:39,120 --> 01:38:40,920
Speaker 1: I mean they on a college campus.

1827
01:38:41,320 --> 01:38:44,040
Speaker 2: I mean I know the show calling the show Insecure

1828
01:38:44,120 --> 01:38:46,560
Speaker 2: was so on point because it really does shine a

1829
01:38:46,640 --> 01:38:50,920
Speaker 2: light on the most obscure insecurities within the community of

1830
01:38:50,920 --> 01:38:54,240
Speaker 2: people that watch it. It is just like if you had

1831
01:38:54,240 --> 01:38:57,200
Speaker 2: a fucking like rod, what do you think people be

1832
01:38:57,280 --> 01:38:59,920
Speaker 2: mad about this week? I would miss it almost every

1833
01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:02,680
Speaker 2: time because I would I didn't see this coming. I

1834
01:39:02,680 --> 01:39:04,000
Speaker 2: watched the whole show and I was like, yeah, it

1835
01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:06,000
Speaker 2: was a good episode. Well, can't wait to talk about

1836
01:39:06,040 --> 01:39:11,840
Speaker 2: it with boxing on This Too Much Tuesday and yeah,

1837
01:39:11,880 --> 01:39:18,960
Speaker 2: apparently some people was very upset by the episode, but yeah,

1838
01:39:19,080 --> 01:39:27,600
Speaker 2: so uh. It caused Amanda Seals to respond on you know,

1839
01:39:27,720 --> 01:39:29,519
Speaker 2: she loves doing these videos and I wonder if it's

1840
01:39:29,560 --> 01:39:30,559
Speaker 2: just people don't like her.

1841
01:39:31,200 --> 01:39:33,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just don't like her. And it's one of

1842
01:39:33,640 --> 01:39:37,320
Speaker 4: those things where she had on peking green. She said, Aka,

1843
01:39:38,000 --> 01:39:40,320
Speaker 4: you know, looking at her, I didn't see any symbols.

1844
01:39:40,360 --> 01:39:41,960
Speaker 1: I didn't see any Greek letters.

1845
01:39:42,400 --> 01:39:44,559
Speaker 2: I honestly did not watch it close enough to remember

1846
01:39:44,600 --> 01:39:47,200
Speaker 2: if there were. If I'm being honest with you, like,

1847
01:39:47,560 --> 01:39:50,320
Speaker 2: so you sure that weren't, because I know these niggas

1848
01:39:50,360 --> 01:39:53,760
Speaker 2: do watch it with a fine tooth. Com I haven't rewatched.

1849
01:39:53,280 --> 01:39:56,120
Speaker 4: It and not trying to be funny as somebody's not Greek.

1850
01:39:56,160 --> 01:39:57,760
Speaker 4: I actually don't or don't care.

1851
01:39:57,840 --> 01:39:59,280
Speaker 1: I mean I hate to be like that. Yob.

1852
01:40:00,360 --> 01:40:04,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so all right, let's listen to her talk

1853
01:40:04,680 --> 01:40:05,200
Speaker 2: about it.

1854
01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:09,439
Speaker 8: I don't know why people keep asking me if I'm

1855
01:40:09,439 --> 01:40:09,920
Speaker 8: a sore rarer.

1856
01:40:10,600 --> 01:40:15,240
Speaker 2: I am not a soroarer. Tiffany is a soarer. Tiffany

1857
01:40:15,320 --> 01:40:18,280
Speaker 2: is a character on a TV show. I didn't write

1858
01:40:18,320 --> 01:40:21,559
Speaker 2: the character. I play the character. I'm not a.

1859
01:40:21,479 --> 01:40:27,040
Speaker 8: So I'm an actress, right, I'm playing a character on

1860
01:40:27,080 --> 01:40:27,840
Speaker 8: a TV show.

1861
01:40:28,000 --> 01:40:28,599
Speaker 1: And I think.

1862
01:40:28,520 --> 01:40:32,240
Speaker 8: Reality TV done really got folks sucked up because you know,

1863
01:40:32,680 --> 01:40:33,879
Speaker 8: it's like it's.

1864
01:40:33,720 --> 01:40:38,839
Speaker 2: All the same, but it's I'm just playing a character.

1865
01:40:41,000 --> 01:40:41,439
Speaker 2: That's it.

1866
01:40:43,439 --> 01:40:48,000
Speaker 8: Y'all know that, though, but some of y'all don't. I

1867
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:51,400
Speaker 8: feel like some folks really forget. Like, I don't know

1868
01:40:51,439 --> 01:40:54,080
Speaker 8: why people keep asking, And I.

1869
01:40:54,120 --> 01:40:57,760
Speaker 2: Know that people don't like Amanda Sells as a broad contingent.

1870
01:40:57,960 --> 01:40:59,599
Speaker 2: You know, she said a lot of stuff for her

1871
01:41:00,040 --> 01:41:04,240
Speaker 2: page and all that stuff. But and then people were saying,

1872
01:41:04,360 --> 01:41:07,799
Speaker 2: like they violated the trademark. They did it without permission.

1873
01:41:07,800 --> 01:41:12,080
Speaker 2: But you have to get permission to even portray the

1874
01:41:12,120 --> 01:41:16,280
Speaker 2: sororities of attorneys on TV, like you have to. There

1875
01:41:16,320 --> 01:41:20,000
Speaker 2: has to be licensed from the actual organization. So people

1876
01:41:20,000 --> 01:41:22,120
Speaker 2: were putting that out like, you know, the odds of

1877
01:41:22,160 --> 01:41:26,759
Speaker 2: them not talking and getting permission is low and yeah,

1878
01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:31,320
Speaker 2: like they probably even paid or whatever. Right, So it

1879
01:41:31,439 --> 01:41:38,400
Speaker 2: was you know, people pointing that shit out. Uh and yeah,

1880
01:41:38,400 --> 01:41:41,880
Speaker 2: there were you know, people trying to be be be

1881
01:41:42,080 --> 01:41:46,400
Speaker 2: mad about it. The analogies people were making it just

1882
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:50,920
Speaker 2: I didn't understand. Somebody said, imagine a random person wearing

1883
01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:54,040
Speaker 2: your underwear that you normally wear. It's something so personally

1884
01:41:54,080 --> 01:41:56,439
Speaker 2: you that you cringed the idea along, right, Yeah, that's

1885
01:41:56,439 --> 01:41:58,880
Speaker 2: how I feel my when non members were my ORGS

1886
01:41:58,920 --> 01:42:06,040
Speaker 2: letters for whatever reason. I don't know how that makes sense.

1887
01:42:06,120 --> 01:42:08,920
Speaker 2: This is us Just did they you know they may

1888
01:42:09,120 --> 01:42:13,400
Speaker 2: rando alpha And I don't remember any of this, Like

1889
01:42:13,479 --> 01:42:16,080
Speaker 2: even when we covered it on this too much when

1890
01:42:16,080 --> 01:42:19,040
Speaker 2: we have all these people right feedback and you know,

1891
01:42:19,479 --> 01:42:22,920
Speaker 2: volume miss feedback of just like all their emotions and

1892
01:42:22,960 --> 01:42:26,800
Speaker 2: insecurities and shit, nobody tapped on that to be like, man,

1893
01:42:26,880 --> 01:42:30,360
Speaker 2: I didn't appreciate them having him in the Alpha thing

1894
01:42:30,400 --> 01:42:32,960
Speaker 2: and them showing them kids stepping It was nothing but pride, now,

1895
01:42:32,960 --> 01:42:35,519
Speaker 2: could it? Because that's a white show on the main

1896
01:42:35,720 --> 01:42:39,880
Speaker 2: You know, maybe I don't know, but don't I don't

1897
01:42:39,920 --> 01:42:43,360
Speaker 2: get I'm gonna be honest, I think I actually think

1898
01:42:43,360 --> 01:42:46,080
Speaker 2: the offense is misplaced. And I don't even mean that

1899
01:42:46,120 --> 01:42:48,479
Speaker 2: on some like it's Easter Ray and the show is far.

1900
01:42:48,600 --> 01:42:54,800
Speaker 2: I mean the entire offense. I think it is completely misplaced, unfounded,

1901
01:42:55,080 --> 01:42:59,759
Speaker 2: ungrounded in anything serious, and feels a lot like condom

1902
01:42:59,760 --> 01:43:01,960
Speaker 2: game type bullshit that always happens with this.

1903
01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:04,719
Speaker 4: Show, right, And it's also one of those things where

1904
01:43:05,040 --> 01:43:07,600
Speaker 4: people acting in like Easter Ray would do something like

1905
01:43:07,640 --> 01:43:10,000
Speaker 4: this and just not like you say, Nike permission, not

1906
01:43:10,120 --> 01:43:10,840
Speaker 4: ask or anything.

1907
01:43:10,920 --> 01:43:12,840
Speaker 1: Just because you don't know it don't mean it ain't true.

1908
01:43:13,320 --> 01:43:14,519
Speaker 1: And I think even if.

1909
01:43:14,360 --> 01:43:16,040
Speaker 4: She did get permission some of them would some people

1910
01:43:16,040 --> 01:43:18,479
Speaker 4: would have been mad regardless, Like you just have a

1911
01:43:18,520 --> 01:43:22,160
Speaker 4: subsection that's like I don't care, I'm gonna be mad. Cool,

1912
01:43:22,920 --> 01:43:24,760
Speaker 4: You're just going to be mad. And I agree with her.

1913
01:43:24,840 --> 01:43:25,680
Speaker 4: She's an actress.

1914
01:43:25,880 --> 01:43:29,479
Speaker 2: I am an actress, and it's already been filmed because

1915
01:43:29,479 --> 01:43:31,960
Speaker 2: peoples like they better not do it again, which I'm like,

1916
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Speaker 2: why are you getting pre Why are you getting pre mad?

1917
01:43:35,840 --> 01:43:38,760
Speaker 2: Because the show's already been filmed, So whether they do

1918
01:43:38,840 --> 01:43:41,040
Speaker 2: it again or don't, got nothing to do with you

1919
01:43:41,120 --> 01:43:47,000
Speaker 2: being mad. On Twitter, October to twenty fifth, like oh man,

1920
01:43:48,160 --> 01:43:51,160
Speaker 2: people need something to really be upset about, you know.

1921
01:43:51,920 --> 01:43:53,840
Speaker 2: But yeah, I saw people trying to like turn it

1922
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Speaker 2: into and it feels you know what it feels like.

1923
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Speaker 2: It feels a little bit like the Slight of Hand,

1924
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Speaker 2: where Dave Shepel's like, I'm the victim here, hey man,

1925
01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:05,920
Speaker 2: pleasure the sorority of fraternity doesn't make you an oppressed minority,

1926
01:44:07,520 --> 01:44:11,360
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like the same way people

1927
01:44:11,360 --> 01:44:14,080
Speaker 2: don't have a problem with an actor portraying like being

1928
01:44:14,080 --> 01:44:20,840
Speaker 2: from a certain neighborhood, city gang college. That's acting. That's

1929
01:44:20,920 --> 01:44:23,479
Speaker 2: the fuck it is. It's like, yeah, we know they did.

1930
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Speaker 2: They aren't these things. And unless you're gonna petition your

1931
01:44:27,840 --> 01:44:31,040
Speaker 2: fucking organization to be like never let us be portrayed

1932
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Speaker 2: in any fictional characters or some shit, take it up

1933
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Speaker 2: with your ard and tell them don't ever license the

1934
01:44:36,680 --> 01:44:39,720
Speaker 2: ship because if not, it's not a big dealing. It's

1935
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Speaker 2: normally a flex, you know what I mean. So it's

1936
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Speaker 2: normally like, oh yeah, not to mention all the jokes,

1937
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Speaker 2: which I'm sure I could fucking search. There have been

1938
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Speaker 2: so many jokes that she would be in AKA if

1939
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Speaker 2: she was.

1940
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Speaker 4: A real person. And when I seen it, I was like, oh,

1941
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Speaker 4: that's right up her out and she definitely would be

1942
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Speaker 4: one if she was a real person.

1943
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Speaker 2: Yes, my goodness, we back y'all. Shout out to BOSSI

1944
01:45:06,960 --> 01:45:10,759
Speaker 2: though at ten am tomorrow on crowdcast, we'll be doing

1945
01:45:10,800 --> 01:45:15,280
Speaker 2: this too much and this too Much is now its

1946
01:45:15,320 --> 01:45:16,240
Speaker 2: own podcasts.

1947
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Speaker 1: It's on feed, y'all got its.

1948
01:45:18,400 --> 01:45:23,040
Speaker 2: Own feed and everything. You can find it on Spotify.

1949
01:45:23,400 --> 01:45:24,880
Speaker 2: I think it takes a few days for it to

1950
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Speaker 2: get on Apple and searching. I think even if you

1951
01:45:30,640 --> 01:45:33,599
Speaker 2: search on Spotify right now, it doesn't come up. Even

1952
01:45:33,640 --> 01:45:37,160
Speaker 2: though it is on Spotify. I've shared the links on

1953
01:45:37,160 --> 01:45:41,240
Speaker 2: our social media and also if I'll try to put

1954
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Speaker 2: it in the show notes, the Spotify link for y'all.

1955
01:45:44,040 --> 01:45:47,160
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm looking forward to recapping this show with

1956
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Speaker 2: our fans and hopefully not having to deal with anybody

1957
01:45:52,560 --> 01:45:56,639
Speaker 2: being righteously offended at some shit like this, because come on, man,

1958
01:45:57,120 --> 01:46:01,000
Speaker 2: that's a lot. That's a lot, y'all. Let's have some fun.

1959
01:46:01,560 --> 01:46:04,720
Speaker 2: Let's have some fun. That's what we came for. It

1960
01:46:04,840 --> 01:46:07,599
Speaker 2: was like, can y'all just go back to Hayden all

1961
01:46:07,640 --> 01:46:11,439
Speaker 2: the men on the show and wanting h East of

1962
01:46:11,520 --> 01:46:13,479
Speaker 2: the burned her whole life there can y'all just go

1963
01:46:13,520 --> 01:46:17,280
Speaker 2: back to that, all right? All right, last thing, let's

1964
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Speaker 2: do some sword ratchetness and wrap this up. Arrest after

1965
01:46:44,120 --> 01:46:46,439
Speaker 2: reports of a woman with the sword in the streets.

1966
01:46:48,520 --> 01:46:50,080
Speaker 2: The rest has been made and the sword has been

1967
01:46:50,080 --> 01:46:51,680
Speaker 2: recovered after a port of a woman seen with a

1968
01:46:51,720 --> 01:46:55,240
Speaker 2: weapon in the street. Nottinghamshire Police were called after reports

1969
01:46:55,240 --> 01:47:02,519
Speaker 2: of the incident in snightingtown Snyton Boulevard. The officers then

1970
01:47:02,600 --> 01:47:05,040
Speaker 2: arrested a thirty six year old woman to suspect. Was

1971
01:47:05,120 --> 01:47:08,120
Speaker 2: arrested on suspicion of possessing a bladed article and remains

1972
01:47:08,160 --> 01:47:13,640
Speaker 2: in custody. So there you go, all right. We'll be

1973
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Speaker 2: back tomorrow with the guys from Drunk Black History, Yes,

1974
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Speaker 2: and Wednesday with Jess Wood. So looking forward to all that.

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Speaker 2: Until then, I love you