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Please make sure you like subscribing 27 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: download where you get your podcast. 28 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 3: How you doing today, Joe? 29 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 4: I am doing great, Brother, Debo Free Agency Live in effect. 30 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 4: A lot of people, a lot of action things are 31 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 4: happening as we speak right now, this very moment. So 32 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 4: I'm loving this part of the off season where you 33 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 4: see what your team is talking about, what they're trying 34 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 4: to do. Who's trying to make moves? Are they good 35 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 4: moves or bad move? So I'm I'm I'm excited. 36 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, definitely definitely due. So what we're gonna do 37 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: is we go we miss we miss our We missed 38 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: the the uh what do you call it? 39 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 3: The chat? 40 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: We missed the super chats yesterday. So we go do 41 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: them at the top. We go do yesterday's at the top. 42 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 1: At the end, we go do those at the top. 43 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: Then We'll get to whatever else is in the lineup, 44 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: But right now we're gonna get into the Steelers. Man, 45 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: why is they still talking about we must get a 46 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: quarterback to you know, like, it's not it's not happening 47 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: in this draft. Joe, what do you think? What do 48 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: you think the possibilities of anything happened in the draft? 49 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: I got a whole I got a whole set of 50 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: what I think is going on. 51 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 2: Dude. This is what I'm saying. 52 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 4: When people start the panicing, they're like, oh no, just 53 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 4: because people are making moves with Max Crosby, we gotta 54 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 4: go and make a pick quarterbacks the Steelers are I'm like, look, 55 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 4: calm down, calm down, everybody relaxed. Since people are making moves, 56 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 4: you don't want to make. 57 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 2: A bad move if you do. Think. 58 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 4: At the end of the day, I feel a lot 59 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 4: of the Steelers that they think Malik Willis is the 60 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 4: guy they don't beat the will Howard. I can that 61 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 4: I can respect that thought, you know what I'm saying. 62 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 4: But at the same time, there's no rush. We don't 63 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 4: have to rush into these things. We still got, like 64 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 4: we said, I believe man, still thinking that we can 65 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 4: give will how with a chance, Malik Willis is probably 66 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 4: a more valuable option. He showed what he can do 67 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 4: in the league, he has valuable reps. He's won games 68 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 4: with Green Bay, so I can see where they're coming from. 69 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 4: But is that who Mike McCarthy likes. Does Mike McCarthy 70 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 4: like will Does he not want to put that money 71 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 4: there and be able to go do some other moves? 72 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 2: How does he plan it? 73 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 4: So want us to panic when you start seeing things 74 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 4: happen around the league and oh my gosh, what are 75 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 4: we doing? 76 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 2: Are we just standing? 77 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 4: No? 78 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: No, no, no. 79 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 4: Sometimes it's not the smartest move for them to make 80 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 4: the quickest one, you know what I'm saying. So I'm 81 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 4: not in a panic state. I still like will I 82 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 4: understand Malik. If people don't like him, I'm not against 83 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 4: it at all. 84 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 2: He hasn't proven anything. He was a drafted pick. 85 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 4: They put Mason in front of him, like last year 86 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 4: when why didn't they put him in I can hear 87 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 4: what everybody's saying, But for me, I'm rock with Mike McCarthy. 88 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 2: I'm rocking with Omar Khan. 89 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 4: I'm letting them take their time and not just rush 90 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 4: and make rash moves that they don't believe, right, you 91 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. 92 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 2: So I can see what team's making moves. Whatever. 93 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 4: It's early in fur agency. You want to make a pop. 94 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 4: You want your team to be going. 95 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 2: Across the ticker like, oh yeah we did this. 96 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 4: Okay, you could do that and it could be bad 97 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 4: and the next thing, you know, time will tell. So 98 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 4: it's still early, still everly in freer agency. We still 99 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 4: got time. We can still make moves. I just don't. 100 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 4: I can see when some people want Elik and they 101 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 4: will start paniccking like oh yeah, let's go here and 102 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 4: do this. But I'm in the mind frame where don't rush. 103 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 4: We still do got will even though other people don't 104 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 4: believe in it. 105 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 2: I know we have money that we have other places 106 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 2: that we need to do. 107 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 4: We just released John News so we're opening up breasts, 108 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 4: so we got things that we can do. So I'm 109 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 4: still chilling. I would like our team to go across 110 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 4: the ticket too. I want to see that still is 111 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 4: getting a linebacker, you know what I'm saying. I see 112 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 4: we just signed a Sante Samuel Jr. On the opposite side, small, 113 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 4: one year, four million. I like the way he played. 114 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 4: He gets another year in the defense to be able 115 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 4: to get comfortable. Said, coming in mid season, you know, 116 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 4: feet still he still couldn't get comfortable. Now he got 117 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 4: a complete off season, he's on a proved deal. 118 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 2: You know how those those work. 119 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, getting comfortable that he knows he's trying to 120 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 4: go get that bag. 121 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 2: So I'm liking that. Looked little things like that is 122 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 2: smooth under the radar. But we're just trying to get 123 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 2: what we need. 124 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 4: Don't rush and go do something and oh yeah, look 125 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 4: we got we got this big name. 126 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. 127 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 4: There's a lot of there's a lot of names out 128 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 4: there that dudes aren't just like, oh yeah, this dude 129 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 4: that have the proved deals. That might not be the 130 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 4: number the dude that you know, but there's allers out 131 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 4: there that, you know what I'm saying, you could pick 132 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 4: that one. 133 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 2: Like little stuff like that. So that's why they. 134 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: Need they need to stop planning the man, because we 135 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: are not We are not drafting the quarterback, we are 136 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: not picking up a quarterback. And free agency, yes, it's 137 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: definitely something that we need to address. Depending on how 138 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: things look, like you said, Willis, it's not gonna happen 139 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: there's too many people after him. The money he goes command, 140 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: it's going to be out of control. And another reason 141 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: is he's not signed yet. And I think it's a 142 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: lot of people right now that's sitting back and they like, well, 143 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 1: I ain't trying to give him the bag bag for 144 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 1: this small sample of work, you know what I'm saying. 145 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: So ain't nobody really jumping the gun to go and 146 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: be like, yo, here here it go. And we already 147 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: talked about the draft. There's nothing there, so that's out. 148 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 1: It's just not even happening there. And right now, the 149 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: big thing for me is, like you said, like what 150 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: can Will Howard do? 151 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 3: He is a national champion. 152 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 1: We haven't given him a chance to either prove or 153 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: disprove he can or can't do it. 154 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 3: And as you. 155 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: Said with Mike McCarthy, he likes Will Howard, dude, he said. 156 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 1: He said himself. He was like, I really, I'm really 157 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,799 Speaker 1: excited about Will he said. He said, I'm really excited 158 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: about Will Howard. He said, I'm anxious to get to 159 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: work with him. And he said he loves the way 160 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: he plays the game. And when he said that, he 161 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: was talking to he was pointing to how Will played 162 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: his best ball in the college playoffs. So with him 163 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: saying that about Will, he's definitely going to give him 164 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: a chance. And this year it's going to be the 165 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: end of speculations of it. 166 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 4: And the good point was last year he was on 167 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 4: the bench, he was able to say he was hurt too. 168 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 3: You don't have to yes, why he didn't get a chance. 169 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 2: You don't have to rush nobody into it. 170 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 4: Him being able to get the flow, be able to 171 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 4: not have to play his rookie season. 172 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: He's still the. 173 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 4: Same dude, like with a year under his belt, now 174 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 4: getting more comfortable. So I would love to see him 175 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 4: with a chance because he's a big body and he's 176 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 4: done it before. 177 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, not something else. He's fully healthy now. 178 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 2: He fractured. I think he fractured his hand last. 179 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: Year, and I believe that was what really, you know, 180 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: kept him out of the floor of being able to, 181 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: you know, fight for a spot. And another thing is 182 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: we're waiting on Rogers too. We're aiting on his decision. 183 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: He hasn't gave one hundred percent answer one way or 184 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: the other, dude, And when you do that, it's like, Okay, 185 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: we ain't making no moves because we're okay with where 186 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: we're at. So that makes that makes me believe that 187 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: the Stellers they're at a point where it's like, Okay, 188 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: we're content where we're at right now, we're gonna get 189 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: Will Howard a chance, and we believe that the option 190 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: rolls around and say it's not working out or it's 191 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: not looking like it's going to work out, that Rogers 192 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: will still be there because from his talking, a lot 193 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:25,679 Speaker 1: of people believe it's it's Pittsburgh nowhere. Yeah, yes, right, 194 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: and it's not like it's a bunch of other teams 195 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: out there that's that's looking to you know, grab him 196 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: right now anyway, So we we still have that option. 197 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: Our next thing is, like everybody's saying that right down 198 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: here in chat is like a receiver. 199 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 2: Yes, we're looking at the receiver position. 200 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: And when you look at it, you know they were 201 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:49,479 Speaker 1: talking about the possibility of the best guys around available, 202 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: And it was two guys that I liked that was 203 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: in that in that uh in that talk, and I 204 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: think it was Alec Pierce that was one, and the 205 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: other one was one Dlle Robertson. And the reason I 206 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: like pieris is I think we can get him for 207 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: a good price. Like he has a little issue with 208 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 1: like separation, you know, just at the line getting off, 209 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: you know, bump covers. His routes aren't really as sharp 210 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: as they would like to be. But dude, you run 211 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: four folk one Dad, you might as well say that's 212 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: a full three game speed by six three almost two fifteen. 213 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: And he got forty seven catches last year and still 214 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: had over one thousand yards. 215 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 3: Joe, that's twenty one and some change. That's real life. 216 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: Deep threat forty inch burgle for forty plus inch vertical Dude, 217 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: ball skills is nice. He's a high point catcher. He's 218 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: going up to get the ball, he tracks the ball well, 219 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: he's coming down with the fifty to fifty almost seventy 220 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: eighty percent. 221 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 3: Of the time. And Joe, he can block. It wasn't 222 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 3: like to get physical. See. 223 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 2: I like Ali Pierce. I like him. When they were 224 00:09:56,320 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 2: talking about the trade for Michael Pittman Jr. I was like, there, I. 225 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 4: Like Alec Pierce just a little more, and he's gonna 226 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 4: be a free agent, so that one thousand percent. She said, 227 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 4: I like Wandelle Robinson too as a possession receiver can 228 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 4: get open and just you know what I'm saying, that's 229 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 4: that's a guarantee we need that. But I'm also a 230 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 4: fan of Romeo Dobbs. Romeo Dobbs is a get it 231 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 4: done dude. He does all of the dirty work. He blocks, 232 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 4: he catches, he doesn't make a lot of noise, but 233 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 4: he goes out there and gets it done. So I 234 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 4: think he's one that we could be able to get 235 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 4: for the low two at prove it deals. Still going 236 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 4: out there grinding. He's a great receiver. That old he's 237 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 4: a little older, but I just he's still getting it done, 238 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 4: route running and it's for the and it's not going 239 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 4: to be as expensive as some of these other dudes. 240 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 4: So I like Romeo Dobbs. I like Wandale Robinson for sure, 241 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 4: Slot and Alec Pearce. Any of those three will be 242 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 4: a will be a will be. 243 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: A nice ad to the to the roster. Yeah, definitely 244 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 1: Wondale Robinson. That's a that's that's a yaking scene. I 245 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 1: think he only liked five seven five eight' something like that. 246 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: But he hey he almost heavy, is you well, I 247 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: don't know how much you wait no more, Joe, he 248 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: one hundred eighty five. 249 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, man, Yeah, we're saying way saying. 250 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: We're saying wait, like I said, he affected man, like 251 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 1: you said, the short route, he got that. He got 252 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 1: that question in and out. He go hit you in 253 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: them whips in them options that quick once to get 254 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: it in his hands. 255 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 4: Yes, like we had what's my man Like we had 256 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 4: the receiver that came to us last year in Minnesota. 257 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 2: Feeling okay, Yeah, yes. 258 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 4: Young feeling get it done, third down possession receiver. 259 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, and listen something else. 260 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: I wanted the people to get out of their head 261 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: what we ain't trade TG what he ain't going nowhere? 262 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 2: Me, he ain't going nowhere like y'all, y'all the way 263 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:50,479 Speaker 2: they do business. 264 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 3: That ain't the way they do business. It's not it's 265 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 3: not going to happen. 266 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: But you know me, Joe, I like to, I like to, 267 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: you know, ask questions and give give speculations. 268 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 2: You know. 269 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: With that being said again, TJ. White ain't going nowhere. 270 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: That's just media and the speculation. It ain't happening. Man 271 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: just signed what three year deal one hundred and twenty 272 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: three million, hundred and eight guaranteed just last July. Yes, okay, 273 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,199 Speaker 1: we got fifty million dollars in cash space, so we 274 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: ain't got no money issues. I know, his numbers down 275 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: all that other stuff that don't count. You're not looking 276 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: at the stats that don't have numbers to them that 277 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: he adds to which allows other people to be able 278 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: to do what they do. 279 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 2: And like I said, Joe. 280 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 4: And he's out because he got punctured, launched long from 281 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 4: the in house. He didn't do so he just keeping 282 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 4: it cool, like you know what I'm saying. So now 283 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 4: let him heal from that when he's on the field, 284 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 4: numbers everything. 285 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 2: He just was out because he had a punctured lunk. 286 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 2: It's not his bad. Let him get right, Okay. So 287 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 2: no Joe. 288 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: Now they came to and they said, hey, we won't 289 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: tj We're gonna give you to first. 290 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 2: What you're gonna do? 291 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 3: Hey, now listen, Hey see see. 292 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 4: I'm not I'm I don't want to what what picks? 293 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 4: What picks are they? So I'm asking to. 294 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 2: First what number two? First? First? Is it gonna be 295 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 2: to first? Like it's twenty twenty six and twenty twenty. 296 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: Seven, we're gonna get we gonna get something in the 297 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: in the top fifteen and something right just out of 298 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: the top fifteen. You want to entertain, you what you 299 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: gotta entertain that Joe you're talking about. I mean, I 300 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: love TJ. But you're talking about two of them, and 301 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: he you know, he ain't he ain't young no more. 302 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:50,839 Speaker 3: I think t J. 303 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 2: What thirty one, thirty two, something like that coming up 304 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 2: on that light that right? 305 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 3: Then? 306 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, yes, it pays me to say. 307 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 4: But like we said before, we we we we cert 308 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 4: we prefaced our comments by saying TJ's not going nowhere, 309 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 4: but to first you want to check and see the 310 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 4: temperature at the same time, like the. 311 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 2: Crazy part is too deep. 312 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 4: Like once you get to that second in that third contract, 313 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 4: when they're looking at they don't care about the numbers. 314 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 4: Say it was seven and a half sacks last year. 315 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 4: They don't care about the what why what he was 316 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 4: missing games because he was injured. You know what I'm 317 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 4: saying was care about the puncture lung. Seven and a 318 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 4: half sacks doesn't look like double digits. And what he's 319 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 4: done for the last five years in a row. When 320 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 4: you're making thirty five forty million dollars a year, it 321 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 4: is literally what have you done for me lately? Like 322 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 4: what have you done for me last season? You know 323 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like there's no loll time, Like you're 324 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 4: getting paid forty you should be showing me forty million 325 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 4: dollars worth of work every season, every game, every snap. 326 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 2: So that's how names even get put into there. 327 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 4: But when you look at it like TJ is his 328 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 4: production has one hundred and fifteen sacks so far in 329 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 4: his career. Okay, that's that. Okay, that like the numbers 330 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 4: are speak for theirselfs seven and a half last season because. 331 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 2: He was hurt. 332 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 4: But number names like TJ Watts the best players that 333 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 4: do it at this level. Two first round picks, all right, Okay, 334 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 4: he's thirty one. I mean, okay, you do kind of 335 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 4: it sounds it's intriguing, but like I, yeah, I would. 336 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 4: I don't think TJ's going anywhere to steals. I don't 337 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 4: think they do business like that. But like you said, 338 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 4: if they talking two first round picks, you gotta ask, 339 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 4: and you're gonna you might you're answer the call to 340 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 4: be talking about. 341 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of speaking of two first round picks, the 342 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: damn Ravens went. 343 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 3: And got Max Crosby. 344 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: They did from the Raiders, dude two first rounds, picking 345 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: twenty six, picking twenty seven. Man, the dude doesn't have 346 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: what was it, sixty nine and a half sacks since 347 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. That's double what the actual Baltimore's top soccer 348 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: did in that same time span. 349 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 3: He only had thirty. I think it was the detackle. 350 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: He's also a d tackle though, so you got to 351 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: look at that. That's still impressive, you know, who comes 352 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: down to it. So when you look at it, like 353 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: over the last what is it went to five years, 354 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: Baltimore has boned NFL worse sixteen leads in the final 355 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: minutes of the game, five five or more than any 356 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: other team, and last season able two of them in 357 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, one by fifteen with four minutes left 358 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: and one by eleven in the fourth quarter. Bro with 359 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: them getting Max Crosby brother, do you think this makes 360 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: them real contenders and he'll be able to. 361 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 2: Put a fire out to the. 362 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: Inability for them to finish games in the fourth quarter. 363 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 4: I think it's a big time help. I don't think 364 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 4: it's the main thing. I think they still got to 365 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 4: do a little bit more on that defense, you know, 366 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 4: but adding Max Crassby just shows end of the day, 367 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 4: the Ravens know they have their franchise quarterback, they have 368 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson. 369 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 2: They haven't been able to even make it to the 370 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 2: super Bowl. 371 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 4: So these big moves for these type teams like they 372 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 4: don't have time to go try to get that first 373 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,959 Speaker 4: round pick that might pan out. No, let's go get 374 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 4: a Max Crossby that we know he's gonna come here. 375 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 4: He's going to add to the defense. He brings the energy, 376 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 4: he wants to win. This is the type of player 377 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 4: that we're gonna bring here. He's gonna be a leader 378 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 4: of the defense. He's going to add to the safety 379 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 4: that we got a linebacker to the core, you know 380 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So with me, I'm rocking with the 381 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 4: Ravens because they're like their windows closing. We got Lamar Jackson, 382 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 4: he's not getting any younger. We need to turn this up, 383 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 4: like we can go get this baller them first round 384 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 4: picks in the future. I don't know, we don't expect 385 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 4: to be picking high in the first round anyway. Let's 386 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 4: go get a guaranteed, certified baller that can go make 387 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 4: something happen for our team. So for the Ravens understand 388 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 4: why they would do it because they're they're going all in. 389 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 4: We got to perform. We know he's going to be 390 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 4: here for a couple of years. We got a legitimate DN. 391 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 4: We haven't been able to we haven't rushed the pass 392 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 4: it really well. We need to be able to get 393 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 4: after the quarterback. He can close the games for us. 394 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 4: So for me, I think that they made a good move. 395 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 4: They know they have a couple of more moves to make, 396 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 4: but this is a move that teams that feel like 397 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 4: they need a couple of pieces make when they feel 398 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 4: like that this is what we gotta do to start winning. 399 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 1: So Joe, Yes, what I like about this is this 400 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: move puts Baltimore at about ten million dollars in cap space, 401 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 1: so there's going to need to be some restructure. 402 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 3: You go for the top. I think there's ten guys. 403 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson that's hitting the cat for seventy four or 404 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: five yep, followed by Smith Rocan Smith thirty two to 405 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: seven yep, the d N thirty one crossby now thirty 406 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: points six, I'm free twenty six point three to tackle 407 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: Ron Stanley twenty four point one, and then Kyle Hamilton 408 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: they don't know where that's at. It's between ten and 409 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: twenty six, depending on how his bonus accounting is. Then 410 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 1: Henry sixteen three, Travis Jones sixteen three, and Mark Andrews 411 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: fourteen seven. But they got sixty five percent of their 412 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: cat taken by five players. Lamar Jackson is twenty five 413 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: percent alone, and they seem to be beefing okay. And 414 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 1: along with that, it's about four or five starters that 415 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: are real. 416 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 3: Life free agents. 417 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 1: So I don't know how much you've helped yourself here 418 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:48,199 Speaker 1: because you got a lot going on. But there's your problems, 419 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: and I'm glad y'all got them. 420 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 4: I don't be I don't think they're two bigger problems though. Man, 421 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 4: they're gonna just have to do some restructuring. 422 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 1: Man already said something goofy about Lamar not being there 423 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: in camp as soon as the OC soon as he 424 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: got there. 425 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:03,679 Speaker 2: What are you talking about? You forgot about that. 426 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 3: I don't forget about that. He don't forget about that. 427 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 3: What are you talking about? 428 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 2: They ain't even talk to the man, Yeah, Joe, Yeah, 429 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 2: that's not good. That's not good, Joe. 430 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 4: They're gonna, they're gonna, they're gonna figure it out because 431 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 4: Lamar gonna come. He has to go there. He has 432 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 4: to end up performing. Lamar's gonna ball, that's the thing. 433 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 4: He's gonna come there. He's gonna perform regardless. So if 434 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 4: you don't like him, whatever, whatever they're showing, they came 435 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 4: to go get Max Crosby. They're trying to get the 436 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 4: defense right. You know, if he didn't show up to 437 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 4: the o Ta's that's not a good look. That's problems 438 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 4: that we definitely hope that they're having. 439 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 3: But what money he didn't He he ain't been showing 440 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 3: up too. He's talking about that's what he do. You 441 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. 442 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 2: He gotta be out training doing what he do. 443 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 1: Now, you got the new dude coming here and he's 444 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 1: talking about you ain't doing it enough. You just gonna 445 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: come in here and just start throwing accusations round. 446 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 2: How you go through that? You're talking about the. 447 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 3: Coach, the old c that got in there. 448 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 2: Man, we were talking about it's not accusations. He said 449 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 2: that he wanted him to be in there. 450 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 3: He didn't say he wanted him to be in there. 451 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 1: He said, if somebody wants to win, they need to 452 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 1: do this and do that, and it's all the stuff Lamar, 453 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: I guess was accustomed to not going to So. 454 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 3: Why don't you just say his name? He don't want 455 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 3: to go that far. 456 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: So okay, man, you know Max Max Max thein got 457 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 1: on over there. 458 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 3: Before he left, though he had, he had to say 459 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 3: goodbye the Raider nation. 460 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 2: We got. 461 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 3: We got to sound listen to this man. 462 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 5: Ever since I've been here, man, I've had one go 463 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 5: on one mission that's become the best version of myself 464 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 5: and help bring a championship back to the Raided organization. 465 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 5: And I feel like I left, you know, everything I 466 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:56,199 Speaker 5: had on the table for this team. I've given my 467 00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 5: heart and soul and I feel like I let y'all down. 468 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 2: Man. 469 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 5: Ever since day one, I've wanted to create and build 470 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 5: a winner with the Raiders. 471 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 3: Yes, I think the man is sad to go. I 472 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 3: think he got out of there. 473 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 2: I think he's sad to go. I think he's said 474 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 2: to go. 475 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 4: I think, honestly, I mean he's sad to go because 476 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 4: the city the same way he wanted to go there 477 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 4: and legitimately think he could make a winner in Vegas. 478 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 2: Fans got behind him. He genuinely thought he could do it. 479 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 4: When you're that good of a player, you think wherever 480 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 4: you go you can bring a team. But it's more 481 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 4: than just you. You can only do your one eleventh. 482 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 4: You got tackles, guards, you got coaches, you got gms. 483 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 4: There's a bigger thing than just you being able to 484 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 4: bring a championship to a team. And that's what the 485 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 4: part where when he's like, yo, when I come in here, 486 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 4: he genuinely probably thought, I'm gonna we're gonna grow the 487 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 4: team here, the court that we got, all these guys 488 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 4: were gonna make something happen. No, you know what I'm saying. 489 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 4: So it's genuine sadness, Like, man, I really thought I 490 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 4: could bring a championship here, Like I tried my hardest, 491 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 4: and then last season when they're blatantly you're saying I 492 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 4: can play and they're holding you out of games, when 493 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 4: you're like, they don't want. 494 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 2: To win, Like, I'm sorry to the Raiders Nation. 495 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 4: I wanted to bring a championship here, but it wasn't 496 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 4: in the same cahoots of the Raiders Nation, of the 497 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 4: managers and the people of the above, the higher ups. 498 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 2: They had a different plan. 499 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 3: Tom Brady ain't want to win. 500 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 4: I mean right, I think that maybe yes, looking at 501 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 4: it like the same way basketball, if we ain't gonna 502 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 4: get we're gonna make the playoffs, you might as well 503 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 4: Tank had the best case scenario to get the highest 504 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 4: draft pick like something. 505 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 2: I think they might be doing that. 506 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 4: If you're playing, if your best player says he can 507 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 4: play and it's good to play, he's like, no, no, nah, 508 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 4: just go ahead, rest it out. We're gonna call it 509 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 4: the season. Then that's showing that you don't want to 510 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 4: win because your best player on defense would probably help 511 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 4: you win the game. He wants to go win, he 512 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 4: doesn't want to go lose, so you hold him out 513 00:23:58,240 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 4: like no, no. 514 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 2: You rest that ankle, you know what I'm saying. 515 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 4: So that is possibly what was happening, and when Max 516 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 4: is looking at it like we're organizationally not on the 517 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 4: same path. I know Raiders fans y'all wanted to win. 518 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 4: I wanted to win, but I'm sorry, I gotta go elsewhere. 519 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 4: It got me up out of here, you know what 520 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,959 Speaker 4: I'm saying. Sorry, I couldn't bring all the championship. Genuinely 521 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 4: I wanted to. I think that's what it was like. 522 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, man, listen, I'm not what you think happy 523 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 1: about him leaving. I kind of wish he had stayed 524 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: at least went to the Cowboys, because I don't like 525 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: the fact that we gotta scene twice year. Okay, you 526 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: know I don't That's what I don't like. Yeah for 527 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: them as a racist, say hell yeah, I like it. 528 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 1: I love it, you know. But my reaction is nothing 529 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 1: compared to Jamar Chase's reaction. 530 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 3: Man, listen to this. 531 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: Joe just fucking text me even traded for Max Crosby. 532 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: No fucking ship, no fucking ship, no fucking ship. Brother, 533 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 1: I'm fucking highly pissed right now. 534 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 3: Oh my god, Oh my god, is. 535 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: Fucking how the funk do we let this nigga go 536 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: to the fucking division? 537 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 5: Bro? 538 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 3: Oh my god, Bro, I don't division, Bro? 539 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 2: Oh my god. Hey, hey, oh Bro, you heard what 540 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 2: he said? 541 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 3: Yes, Barrow text him, bruh. 542 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: I got these three monsters over here, man, I gotta 543 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 1: see twice a year now loading up on me TJ 544 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: and now y'all don bro crossby over here. 545 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 5: Bro. 546 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 4: That's the sound of a man that's like that. He's 547 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:06,360 Speaker 4: genuinely pissed. He pissed, He wants his team to win. 548 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 4: When you see that and you're on the squad and 549 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 4: now you know end of the division they bringing in dude, 550 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 4: players know they're like mass Crosby's a dog and Joe 551 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 4: Burrow texting him because he knows t J. 552 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 2: Watt hit him upside the head. 553 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 4: Look at him. That's not as he's trying. He's trying 554 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 4: to be's in. He's trying to be 's in. He 555 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 4: doesn't feel zin. He doesn't feel safe. I don't feel safe. Hey, 556 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 4: that's just you know what I'm saying, Joe. 557 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 2: Let me talk to Joe. Joe Burrow. He needs a 558 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 2: bouy them boys on golf. 559 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 1: Oh listen, I got I got, I got my camera. 560 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 1: I'm on my phone right now. See I ain't got 561 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: no internet service. You know what I'm saying. So I'm 562 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: on my phone right now. 563 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 3: People. 564 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 1: That's why it's kind of it's kind of iffy iffy. 565 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 1: So the camera, Oh no, the camera's right here. Okay, 566 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: see the camera's right there. Hey, Joe, Yes, Joe, let's 567 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: talk to Joe Burrow. Joe, come on over here to 568 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:02,199 Speaker 1: the Stiller's name. Oh, we we can protect you. 569 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 2: We will protect you at all costs. 570 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: All costs. You come on over here. We're gonna make 571 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 1: sure your blindside is protected. We will go out there 572 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: and spend and spend to make sure you are okay. 573 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: It's never too late to come on over here. I hear, 574 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: I see. I feel your concern, just from how you 575 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: called your partner, like, hey, you know what they done did? 576 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: They don'et went and got this monster, and they don't 577 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: let him go over there. They done sent him over there. 578 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 2: Yep. 579 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 4: Joe, Joe, Hello, come on, come on, tell him open arms, 580 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 4: open arms, welcomed. 581 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 2: Embrace you, my brother. Embrace Joe Burrow. Now that's the 582 00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 2: only that. 583 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 4: Now, when you talk about Joe Borough, that's when that's 584 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 4: when you definitely you asked the phone for anybody. Anybody 585 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 4: could go. I don't care, Hey, anyone could go for Joe. 586 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 2: Hey, what y'all want? 587 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 3: What you want? 588 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 2: What you want? 589 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 4: Tell us what you want. The phone line is open. Huh, Joe, 590 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 4: Joe just need to have Joe just need to get 591 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 4: this grown to. 592 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 2: Get out of it. Yeah. 593 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 3: Oh my con Oh what's that? 594 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 2: We got it. But the only way though, bro, the 595 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 2: only way though, bro, they're not lying. We gotta do 596 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 2: a double deal. Okay, it gotta be a double were 597 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 2: all right now? 598 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: But I'm talking to I'm talking to I'm talking to Joe, 599 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: Me and Joe talking to Joe Burrow right now. 600 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 2: So what we're gonna do is we're gonna get it. 601 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 3: Right, Uh huh. 602 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 603 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:50,959 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get back to you after we get through 604 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: with the show, though, I believe me, I'm gonna get 605 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: it there. 606 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get in Bumpy. I'm gonna go ahead, make 607 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 2: weight as well. 608 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 4: If this ain't time for I don't care if we 609 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 4: could do it, if we could do it, but we 610 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 4: have to bring He's not you know what though, he's 611 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 4: not leaving Jamar Chase. That's why I said, we gotta 612 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 4: do it. 613 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 2: We gotta do it. We can past the nasty ship 614 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 2: you did. We gotta do a w Yep. 615 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 4: Everything could be forgived. Listen, everything could be forgiven if 616 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 4: a but see I'm giving. That's that's a lot to show. Yep, 617 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 4: Joe A what is everything? Lord forgives? 618 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 3: Man? 619 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 2: I am I not going how many first round picks? 620 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 2: How many first round picks do we have? 621 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 3: What they won't give it? 622 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 2: Give them all. We won't need none for the next 623 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 2: five six years. 624 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: Get here. 625 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, here you go, yep, Joe, No, for sure that Yeah, 626 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,239 Speaker 4: I'm dressing that up. 627 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 2: However they want it. 628 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 3: I'm telling you, brother, oh wall I'm telling you. 629 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: But you know what, it was one place they wouldn't 630 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: go send Crosby. Tom said, ain't no way, Mmm, we 631 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: ain't sending them over there to Patriots. According to ESPN's 632 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: Jeremy Fowler, the Patriots reportedly wanted Max Crosby in the 633 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: off season, but Tom said he wasn't having it. 634 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 3: He was not having it. 635 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: I guess a follower spoke to someone involved in the 636 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: Crossby trayed and quote, no way Tom was sending Max 637 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: to Rabrol. Joe, Yes, should the Raiders be worried about 638 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: Tom Brady's ties to the Patriots and how it could 639 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: affect business decisions? 640 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 4: So I will only say if they were willing to 641 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 4: offer them two first round picks. He was still like, no, 642 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 4: then no, if he's going against the best deal for 643 00:30:55,800 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 4: against his personal relationships, right, yes, Like if they're offering 644 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 4: if New England's trying to get over with a friendly deal, 645 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 4: like yeah, give me, I'll give you a first and 646 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 4: a fifth for Max. 647 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 2: And he's like this. 648 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 4: No, I'm not sending them to New England completely justified. 649 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 2: But if you like they send. 650 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 4: You two first rounds and you're like this, no, I'm 651 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 4: sending them over here for first in the second, y'all 652 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 4: got me up like I'm not helping you all, then 653 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 4: you're then then that's when it's like, no, no, Tom, 654 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 4: come on, man, tighten up, brother. 655 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: Do we want to know you think it was in 656 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: the first? In the first, you're thinking it was just 657 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: a first and something else. 658 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 4: I think that it was maybe it had to be 659 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 4: a worse deal because I'm not I'm not in the 660 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 4: mind frame to think that Tom is going to do that. 661 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 4: But I don't know what they offered. Let me find 662 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 4: out what they offered them. And if it was a 663 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 4: first in the first and he was still laughing in 664 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 4: their faces, then the Raiders need to be concerned. 665 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: Well okay, but but Joe, Joe, you know me, I 666 00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: like to start. 667 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 2: Up little bit Joe. 668 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: Now I'm going to say, if both deals were equal, 669 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: then yes. 670 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 3: Maybe that's a good decision. 671 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: But if both deals were not equal and they could 672 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: have got maybe a little pinch more over here with 673 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:16,959 Speaker 1: the Patriots. 674 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you what I think may have happened. 675 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: This is just a conspiracy. 676 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 3: Listen, conspiracy. I think this is what happened. 677 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: Tom said, Hell no, I'm not sending him over there 678 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: and giving them a rusher like that after they done 679 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: already went to the super Bowl and if they had him, 680 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 1: they would have had a damn good chance of winning it. 681 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: And y'all got this young quarterback over there that's doing 682 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: it and being compared to me. I can't have him 683 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: up there about to go ahead and be erasing my 684 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: legacy as a patriot. 685 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 3: It's a little bit of many so preservation. 686 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. 687 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 4: That's why I think I think, I think you're I 688 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 4: think you could be right. 689 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 2: I think you could definitely be right. 690 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 4: I think because Tom Brady, I mean he could be like, No, 691 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 4: I wont the seven there not trying to get him this. 692 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 4: I'm not trying to clip all their base they were 693 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 4: in the ship. If I get him Max, then hei 694 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 4: there automatically going to be right back. 695 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 696 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 4: I mean, I can understand exactly what you're saying, and 697 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 4: I think that he could be have a little You 698 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 4: never know, Tom Brady could have a hate in this 699 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 4: hot well like man, No, I don't. 700 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 2: Want the Patriots to be good. 701 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: Well, you know it ain't. It ain't so much hate 702 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: as it is preserving your legacy. 703 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 4: Joke serving you. His legacy is preserved. He's Tom Bradley Joy. 704 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 2: He got on year two and he done went there. 705 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 2: But he didn't win. 706 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 4: But he did not win one ship yet and he 707 00:33:56,120 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 4: had six he got seven total. But I can see 708 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 4: if he started doing this after buddy, want to listen, 709 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 4: let him win too, and then. 710 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 2: You can't give him a shot, Joe. You can't give 711 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:08,320 Speaker 2: him no head start. 712 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 3: You couldn't give him. 713 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 2: You give him what he gave him. Man right there 714 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 2: where he's at. 715 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 3: It ain't hating it. It's preserved in you can see Joe. 716 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 2: He think he's a competitor to take the best. I 717 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 2: think he took. I think the deal was less I 718 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 2: think he would have took. 719 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: I want to find out somebody that got some inside information. 720 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,280 Speaker 1: I want to find out how much better the deal 721 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: was that he took from Baltimore. 722 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 4: And then even if it was, if it was the 723 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 4: same deal, I'm still with him going. You could definitely 724 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 4: send to the other team, for sure, Yeah, yeah, for sure, 725 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 4: I'm with that. 726 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,840 Speaker 1: But you know, I think now I think about it, 727 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: they might have been like, yeah, you know what, he 728 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 1: can help us oute and hell he is he give 729 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,439 Speaker 1: give us a player deal. You know what I'm saying. 730 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 1: His legacy here, man, you want to see you want 731 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: to see his win the hell you do know the 732 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,720 Speaker 1: hell he doesn't want to, y'all go down in the dirt. 733 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: He wants to flip the Raiders flames. 734 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 2: You don't want. 735 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 4: He want the Raiders to win the ship before the 736 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 4: Patriots win the ship. No question, no question over there. No, 737 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:16,320 Speaker 4: that's draft, that's craft. He don't need no no other owners. 738 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 3: For him and craft. Good relationship. 739 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 2: Let him get a piece though, a great relationship. But 740 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,320 Speaker 2: you're gonna him get a piece of the Patriots. I 741 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 2: don't know how friendly, how much is how much of 742 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 2: a friend he is? 743 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 3: I guess he don't really love me like he said, dude, 744 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 3: you love me. 745 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 4: You got to show me, You got to show show me, 746 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 4: show me how much for five percent of New England? 747 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: Joe Man, listen here, brother. They said, you know your 748 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: browns over there, They said they might. 749 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 2: They say they might have some drama going. No one 750 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,919 Speaker 2: over there. No, no, they haven't. I don't know dude. 751 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,879 Speaker 1: They haven't been able to get a hold of Miles Gear, 752 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 1: they said, since was it? 753 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 3: Monking God? 754 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 1: I think maybe maybe he was just driving too fast, 755 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,720 Speaker 1: a signal couldn't catch up to him, and his phone 756 00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:58,760 Speaker 1: wasn't working in something. 757 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know, Maybe, I. 758 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 3: Mean he could have. 759 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: He was at the Ellipsics too, he was supporting his girlfriend. 760 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: So he's bad service, you know what I'm saying. And 761 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: now the DC, Mike Ruttenberg, they asked him, you know, 762 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 1: had you heard from Miles Ship and he said, we 763 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: haven't spoke face to face. 764 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 3: We've both been traveling a lot, and. 765 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: I cannot wait to meet I cannot wait to meet 766 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: him and learn from him obviously amazing as obviously amazingly 767 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:34,720 Speaker 1: as much as what utmost respect for him as a player, 768 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 1: and all the great things I've heard about him as 769 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:38,760 Speaker 1: a person. 770 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 3: So yes, how hard it is to make a phone 771 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 3: called Joall Hey, t J. Watt then then then then 772 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 3: talked to his d coordinator t J. 773 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 1: T J Watt done, then then then had a conversation 774 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 1: with his decord B. 775 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,760 Speaker 2: It is literally off season. 776 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,760 Speaker 3: It's not there's no issue, there's no issue. 777 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 2: Talk to the DC. 778 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 3: One time. 779 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 4: You know why, Miles Garrett, He's gonna be there on time, 780 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 4: ready to perform. Like what we're gonna talk about. What 781 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,240 Speaker 4: we're gonna talk about right now during the off season. 782 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:21,399 Speaker 4: I understand you. 783 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 2: You got the draft stuff. 784 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 3: Change the whole defense. 785 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 4: It don't even matter when Miles gets there, what you're 786 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 4: gonna do. He knows how to get after the passer. 787 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:37,360 Speaker 4: All defenses. You need a mile. It's gonna fit wherever. 788 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 4: And Min's gonna be there in April and it's gonna 789 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 4: come in there. He's gonna be there. It's gonna be 790 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 4: a leader. 791 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 2: I just don't get all that. Don't be putting that do. 792 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:50,280 Speaker 1: Y'all overseee much. Joe is a Browns fan. He doesn't 793 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 1: even want to say anything is possible for there to 794 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 1: be any negative consequences from that. 795 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 3: This is crazy. 796 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 4: I'm just saying, we got enough drum already. 797 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 2: That's really. 798 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 4: To make up, fake make up, fake drama of your office. Huh, 799 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,320 Speaker 4: this is real drama, Joe. This is not real drama. 800 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 4: This is this is okay. 801 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 3: But Lamar not not. 802 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 1: You know, Lamar's oc saying something a real drama, but 803 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 1: him not even talking to the man ain't real drama. 804 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 3: Even though he's been trying to get a hold of. 805 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 4: Him, he didn't say he was trying to get ahold 806 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:26,880 Speaker 4: of him. 807 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:28,320 Speaker 3: Between your lives. 808 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 2: You're no, you're lins lies, you're adding lies. He's reach 809 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:34,240 Speaker 2: out to Miles. 810 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 4: Miles reached out to him because he's trying to figure 811 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,360 Speaker 4: out everything else. He knows one thing when O t 812 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 4: A is and all that, Miles Garrett is going to 813 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 4: be the starting defensive end for He needs to be 814 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,319 Speaker 4: figuring out his planning. How he's gonna do Miles, Mile's 815 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 4: gonna be there, no trip, Mile's getting this forty Miles 816 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 4: going to be there, and Min's gonna come. 817 00:38:53,760 --> 00:39:00,800 Speaker 2: He just no more man, did no I need Nope? 818 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 2: He good, He good. 819 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,360 Speaker 4: He still got He still got another year until he 820 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 4: get the negotiating again. Miles gonna just chill do what 821 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 4: he got to do off season. He's enjoying it. After 822 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 4: twenty three and a half. You don't got to see it. 823 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 4: Miles come back right there in April. 824 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,360 Speaker 2: You still he still got a couple of days, a 825 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 2: couple of weeks, two three weeks. That's crazy. 826 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 1: He just got a ticket though, not even not even 827 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 1: not even two weeks ago, but he still couldn't huh. 828 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 2: He was trying to get he was trying to get 829 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 2: to get to the to go cut to you. 830 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 1: He was trying to get to to go talk to 831 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 1: him like the man. 832 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:44,839 Speaker 2: Listen, Miles, all right, look for real he cut at 833 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,800 Speaker 2: the end of the day. A phone call. 834 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,399 Speaker 4: Isn't hard and being the text the text, and how 835 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 4: you doing this? 836 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 2: Miles? 837 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 4: Man? 838 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,240 Speaker 2: Nice? Nice, nice to nice to meet you text, meet. 839 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 1: You, man, I get I get a hold of you 840 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,360 Speaker 1: when my schedule get a lot a little bit lighter. 841 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like anything Joe in I 842 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 1: offer or you off Joe. Look like we done lost Joe, y'all. 843 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 1: So now it is the de Both show. I've been 844 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 1: waiting on this. I've been waiting on this the whole time. 845 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,319 Speaker 1: I ain't gone even watch y'all. Damn it is he 846 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 1: coming back. This is the Devo Show. Look here, man, 847 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:30,759 Speaker 1: So what we gonna do is we gonna get into 848 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,439 Speaker 1: a little bit of other news here man. 849 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 2: We got we got a big. 850 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 3: Signing over here with Philly Man. 851 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 1: They done signed Jordan Davis to a huge contract over here. 852 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 2: Man. 853 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 1: Let's check this out right here. He just signed an extension. 854 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:52,759 Speaker 1: It's in a three year extension. Actually seventy what is that, 855 00:40:53,520 --> 00:41:00,319 Speaker 1: seventy six million dollars, seventy eight million dollars. He signed 856 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 1: a seventy eight million dollar extension that makes him the 857 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 1: highest paid nose tackle in NFL history. He got sixty 858 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:18,400 Speaker 1: five million guaranteed twenty twenty two. Or was he the 859 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 1: thirteenth pick? He was going into his fifth year. That 860 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:27,319 Speaker 1: was thirteen million for his fifty year option. Obviously that 861 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 1: they had picked up this right here. It's one of 862 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:36,879 Speaker 1: those things, man that I. 863 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:36,399 Speaker 2: I love to see. Man. 864 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 1: I like to see dudes breaking records, getting more money 865 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,800 Speaker 1: and more money. They had no choice, to be honest 866 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 1: with you. The dude, it's just a straight up monster 867 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 1: when you look at him, especially his ability in the 868 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,320 Speaker 1: run game. Is no way that you're going to be 869 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 1: able to stop me. No, he cut Joe out going 870 00:41:58,200 --> 00:41:58,720 Speaker 1: to be able. 871 00:41:58,600 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 2: To stop my WiFi. 872 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 1: The man. The man runs four seven eight in the 873 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 1: forty Him and Joe usually run the same time. 874 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 3: The man is six six, he's big. He's my wife. 875 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,479 Speaker 1: You know, running the ball, you gonna need at least 876 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 1: to the blocking. Passing the ball, You're gonna need least 877 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 1: to the blocking. You cannot stop him with going to 878 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 1: collapse your pocket. 879 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 3: Y'all tell me when Joe get back. 880 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:30,880 Speaker 1: And that had come here, the quarterback cannot throw the 881 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 1: ball man. 882 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 3: Yes, they better had paid that man. 883 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 1: They didn't. If they didn't, it would have been some 884 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,839 Speaker 1: smoke in the city. They had to do what they 885 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 1: had to do. You understand, that's what that's what that's 886 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 1: what you do. You make yourself unable to be let 887 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 1: go and they gotta pay you more and more. And 888 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,279 Speaker 1: that's how you do it. You hear me, people, I 889 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:58,840 Speaker 1: hear y'all in the chat. Yes, Joe got some bs internet, 890 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:03,400 Speaker 1: that is right, and he don't pay his bills. 891 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 2: Right in the middle of the mouse talk, let just 892 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,880 Speaker 2: cut off. Oh it just cut off right in the 893 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,719 Speaker 2: middle of Oh Joe back. Oh yeah, I'm here. It 894 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:14,600 Speaker 2: cut off in the middle of the mouse Come here. 895 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,520 Speaker 1: See I was informing the people about Jordan Davis his 896 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 1: three year extension seventy eight million. The game becomes the 897 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 1: highest they nose tackle in NFL history. That's how you 898 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:29,919 Speaker 1: do it, dude. That dude is a monster brother, huge two. 899 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 1: You need to at all times you ain't moving anymore. 900 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:32,839 Speaker 3: One. 901 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 1: No, you ain't moving any one. That's what my linebackers. Dude, 902 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:42,440 Speaker 1: that's freeing up my linebackers. That's what you need. And 903 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:43,239 Speaker 1: that's how you see it. 904 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:49,920 Speaker 4: Defensive tackles getting that bag, everybody, everybody getting that back. Twelve, fifteen, eighteen. 905 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 4: It's twenty six million a year now for these tackles. 906 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 1: Dude, it's uh, I think he got sixty five guaranteed. 907 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:03,320 Speaker 4: That surbingly so, oh yeah. That dude is a baller 908 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 4: plug up the middle. People need dudes like that, and 909 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,040 Speaker 4: when you do it for the team like I love 910 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 4: to see when the team that you ball for takes 911 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:12,920 Speaker 4: care of you. 912 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 3: Yes, sir, that's the way to do it.