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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we just keep crossing the

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Speaker 1: names off the best available free agent's.

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Speaker 2: List, except for that one guy.

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Speaker 1: I'm Greg Rosenthal here in the Chris Westleying podcast studio

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Speaker 1: with my friend Patrick Clayban, who has timed the finish

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Speaker 1: and a half perfectly for the top of the show.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't say that it was poorly planned. Much like

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Speaker 3: that one quarterback who I don't think counts. I don't

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Speaker 3: think we need to cross them now. The list was

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Speaker 3: great without him and was great with that.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, you love my top one one free agents

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Speaker 1: list that you're saying Aaron Rogers Sully's it. He wasn't

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Speaker 1: on initially, but he is on there now as number

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Speaker 1: twenty five, which would be the third best available.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Like, of course we have to adjust for franchise tags

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Speaker 3: and all of those other things, and that doesn't harm

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Speaker 3: the integrity of the list. The list is the list,

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Speaker 3: But like all of this chicanery is so unnecessary that

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Speaker 3: I feel like it's it. Sullly is the list and

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Speaker 3: it changes a number that doesn't deserve to be checked.

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Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, we only have five guys left out of

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Speaker 1: the top fifty. One of them is visiting my new

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Speaker 1: England Patriots. More on that. One just got signed. More

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Speaker 1: on that in a second. But let's start the news.

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Speaker 1: This is a news show ultimately, Okay. I come from

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Speaker 1: a news background. I would say I've done news updates

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Speaker 1: roat a World ten years. I just loved grinding that

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Speaker 1: news Pro Football Talk. How many blurbs here around the

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Speaker 1: League was the original name of our news blog at

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Speaker 1: the NFL than Around the NFL?

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Speaker 2: How many blurbs?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? How many blurbs do you think you amassed during.

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Speaker 2: Your time between roat a World and Pro Football Talk?

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Speaker 4: Just at rotal World?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I would have to be

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Speaker 1: over ten thousand, fifty thousand. You'd have to do the

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Speaker 1: math in how many.

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Speaker 4: According to a famous grifter, that makes you an expert

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Speaker 4: at it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think at this point I was an expert

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Speaker 1: by the end. That's why I had to get out.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing left to learn. The NFL is still trying

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Speaker 1: to learn. They're still trying to change, They're still trying

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Speaker 1: to improve the rules in which they play the sport.

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Speaker 1: They're always changing, and some of the rules proposals officially

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Speaker 1: league meeting coming up at the end of this month.

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Speaker 1: That got some people's attention when it came out. The

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Speaker 1: Lions proposed that seedings would just be based on record,

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Speaker 1: so you would not automatically be a top four seed

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Speaker 1: for the playoffs. The Lions also suggested killing the idea

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Speaker 1: of a holding penalty on defense being an automatic first down.

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Speaker 1: Those are spicy. Those were new. I'm curious if you

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Speaker 1: like them.

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Speaker 4: Like one of them?

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Speaker 2: Okay, which one I like?

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Speaker 3: The true playoff seeding it makes the most sense. Is

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Speaker 3: the seeds actually determining based on the record, and I

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Speaker 3: think you would lose, right, you would lose some matchups.

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Speaker 4: It's tough to go back.

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Speaker 3: I already don't want to go back to the sixteen

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Speaker 3: all the math gets fundamentally changed all I care about

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Speaker 3: because it's not college football, it's not vibes based. The

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Speaker 3: teams start the season and they know what they need

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Speaker 3: to do ultimately to accomplish things. Right, So if we

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Speaker 3: want to go back and retroactively say well, this would

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Speaker 3: have changed that No, it wouldn't because each season is

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Speaker 3: its own thing. But I think it incentivizes some of

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Speaker 3: But prioritizing the record just makes things better for everything,

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Speaker 3: So I'm fine with that. The holding thing, I think

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Speaker 3: it incentivizes grabbing somebody because then you got a third

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Speaker 3: Maybe they call it. I think it leads to more penalties,

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Speaker 3: and I don't want to see more penalties. I just

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Speaker 1: Usually when the teams propose these, they're long, so we

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the right solution is.

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Speaker 4: Get it get it right. Getting it right is the

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Speaker 4: right solution.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's it's it's that's impossible. That will never

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Speaker 1: That one I don't think is going to happen. I

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Speaker 1: like the seedings, Yeah, I like changing it. People say

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Speaker 1: that's taking away the sanctity of the divisions. No, if

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Speaker 1: you win your lousy division, you still get to go

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Speaker 2: So it keeps those big.

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Speaker 1: Time division races that we've seen where the division is

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Speaker 2: That's what every team is trying to do.

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Speaker 1: But it does reward Like last year would have helped

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Speaker 1: I like that. Anything that encourages playing all the way

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Speaker 3: And you get to it, and you still if you

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Speaker 3: and so like they're still incentive to win your division.

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Speaker 3: You just don't, like you can't. You don't have these

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Speaker 4: Lot of times they lose.

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Speaker 1: I've done no reporting on this. I feel like that

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Speaker 2: That's not going to happen. They're not going to make

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Speaker 1: They're trying to make the overtime rules like the regular season,

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Speaker 1: where it's fifteen minutes and that each team gets the ball.

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Speaker 2: I'm fine with that.

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Speaker 1: Give it a shot for a year, a few overtime games,

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Speaker 2: It's fine.

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Speaker 1: If you don't want to have to play so long,

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Speaker 4: Because they simplified the field gold chicanery.

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Speaker 3: It's just hey, fifteen minutes, a couple possessions, that's it.

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Speaker 4: It's universal. I have a basketball boys, I would like.

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Speaker 3: To see just a period of time and then hey,

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Speaker 4: That's what that would be my perfect solution.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I also remember that moment in the Super Bowl between

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Speaker 2: No, they do, right, they do right.

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Speaker 1: But I'm just like it was breaking my brain at

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Speaker 1: it mattered, and it didn't. All right, let's talk Roger

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Speaker 1: just quickly. So I mentioned this on Forties and Free Agents.

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Speaker 1: It's been a lot of fun prepping for the draft

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Speaker 1: did mention the Aaron Rodgers, but we didn't focus on

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Speaker 1: I should I should have mentioned we're talking to our

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Speaker 1: the Big Ten Proa much like Jeremiah, and we're going

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Speaker 3: I'm far more interested in who the teams were. They

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Speaker 3: called for JJ McCarthy because it wouldn't make sense for

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Speaker 4: You know what.

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Speaker 1: The the rumor that it's this is not a thing.

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Speaker 1: This is not a thing that even people are talking about.

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Speaker 1: But I think it was just like a fan created thing.

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Speaker 1: People have been trying to ship Herbert to the Vikings

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Speaker 1: But somehow, I think that's like Schefter addressed it at

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Speaker 2: Year, he didn't say that.

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Speaker 1: I think he was just saying this is this was

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Speaker 1: Vikings would pick up Justin Herbert in exchange.

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Speaker 3: And it's like, have those people heard harball just Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 2: Right or looked at the contract that Herbert has.

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Speaker 1: It'd be very difficult to trade him because of the

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Speaker 1: cap ramifications you'd have to do it after June first. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know who those teams that would call, maybe

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Speaker 1: that would make sense to me. If I was the Browns,

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Speaker 1: I would be like, hey, you want to just pay

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Speaker 1: Darnold and we'll give you like some good draft picks

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Speaker 1: for JJ McCarthy And they're like, no, you know that

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Speaker 1: would make sense as a call.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Or the two teams that are in this infernal

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Speaker 3: Rogers waiting game where it's and I'm wondering the why

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Speaker 3: tell Tom Pellicero that they're not interested in Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 3: at this time? Like that that added a dendum, like

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Speaker 3: so they're out of the game for now, so like

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Speaker 3: were you were you in the game?

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Speaker 2: Back on NFL Daily.

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Speaker 1: Still here in the studio, my friend Patrick, but welcoming

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Speaker 1: in one of our favorite guests. It's Adam West. Of

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Speaker 1: the Saints Block Party podcast. He's not just a Saints guy,

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Speaker 1: he's a draft guy. Boots on the Ground are Big

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Speaker 1: twelve Pro Day correspondent and yes, if you happen to

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Speaker 1: listen to forties and free Agents with Daniel Jeremiah. We

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Speaker 1: have our fourth guest for the second straight day, the

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Speaker 1: PA guy at the Big twelve Pro Day, So welcome

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Speaker 1: to him as well. Thanks Adam, No, thank you for

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Speaker 1: having me on.

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Speaker 6: Uh we tried to time it, but we are recording

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Speaker 6: at the same time that the DBS are now running

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Speaker 6: their forties.

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Speaker 5: Uh see.

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Speaker 6: So we're back and so he's back. But it's good

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Speaker 6: to be on the show again. And both of you

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Speaker 6: guys are uh have been on our podcast talking Saints.

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Speaker 6: So let's let's talk to Big twelve, let's talk draft.

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Speaker 6: Let's let's get into it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah we we will, and you have some spicy Saints

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Speaker 1: news which we'll get to at the end. Shout out

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Speaker 1: to Adam, by the way, unlike DJ, like, he's a

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Speaker 1: podcast professional and he has noise canceling headphones, So I

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Speaker 1: think it's actually going to do a better job than

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Speaker 1: than DJ did because he was afraid of that brain

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Speaker 1: waves entering his mind. Well, yeah, do not care.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's there's an ultimate level right of excellence, and

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Speaker 3: Adam's got He's got it. It's got it blocked out,

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Speaker 3: but he's keeping he's keeping what needs to be kept

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Speaker 3: in as well, and so it gives us right, gives

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Speaker 3: us the full, the full experience.

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Speaker 1: So one player that didn't work out there, I'm moisten

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Speaker 1: der Sanders. He was expected to. He's gonna he's gonna

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Speaker 1: work out later at a prodight. But you know, if

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Speaker 1: we're talking big twelve, to me, he's a fascinating conversation.

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Speaker 1: In general, there's so many things about him that are

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Speaker 1: almost conflicting, like you would expect him to have better

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Speaker 1: traits than he really has. But he obviously has an

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Speaker 1: outsized level of fame because of who his father is,

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Speaker 1: because of the two college teams that he has helped

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Speaker 1: to turn around as a quarterback, because of the copious

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Speaker 1: amounts of tape that's out there, and because because of

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Speaker 1: the skill set that ultimately I think most teams do want,

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Speaker 1: which is a true pocket quarterback. But does he have

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Speaker 1: enough juice do you think to go in the top

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Speaker 1: three of this class, top ten in this class? Like

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Speaker 1: have we seen a quarterback like him? Between me and you,

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Speaker 1: we've been calling him Andy Dalton with swag lately.

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Speaker 2: Like does Andy Dalton with swag?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Like do we it's Andy with Dalton with swag worth

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Speaker 1: taking as your franchise quarterback?

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Speaker 6: I guess I guess My response to this, and we

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Speaker 6: talked about this on our podcast is is he drastically

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Speaker 6: different than Tua as a prospect?

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Speaker 5: Like to was a little more twitchy, right, But if.

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Speaker 6: You just because the things that Tua was described as

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Speaker 6: is like Tua described to someone that had to win

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Speaker 6: from the next or from the shoulder, right, And I

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Speaker 6: feel like Shouldre is almost very a very similar prospect.

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Speaker 6: And Tua went what like you went top Ti ahead?

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Speaker 6: He sure it did so, But then you look at it.

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Speaker 6: Tua was surrounded by hopious amounts of weapons at Alabama,

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Speaker 6: a great offensive line. So I wonder if the conversation

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Speaker 6: on a chardure, if he was at a in a

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Speaker 6: team or at a program like Alabama, if the conversation

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Speaker 6: looked differently. But conversely, historically, you know, I think he

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Speaker 6: compares to players like Peddy Bridgewater, Andy Dalton, Geno Smith,

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Speaker 6: and I think it's just a bigger conversation of have

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Speaker 6: has an NFL swung the spectrum too far in terms

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Speaker 6: of trying to find the offs rip play the quarterbacks

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Speaker 6: that make an off place the attributes to the Anthony

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Speaker 6: Richerdson's and that's not I think Anthony did, but just

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Speaker 6: that I feel like that there's been a devaluation of

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Speaker 6: true hocket passage. But if you just look at historically recently,

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Speaker 6: he just doesn't possess what teams typically Draftop. Ten. But

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Speaker 6: we did like Bryce Young, like it's dractically different than

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Speaker 6: Bryce Young. I made this comparison Bryce Young to a

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Speaker 6: instra door. One thing that whatever he want to like

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Speaker 6: in college, the one thing that everyone says about all

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Speaker 6: three of them in college is that they all have

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Speaker 6: but it and the all pocket pastors and all one

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Speaker 6: from the shoulders. So it's just it's gonna be such

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Speaker 6: a litmus test of where the lead seems.

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Speaker 5: But it's a risk. I do think it is. It

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Speaker 5: is a risk. I think his floor is very high,

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Speaker 5: so in.

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Speaker 3: Terms of evaluating that surrounding group, because I know we

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Speaker 3: kind of take Travis out, like we know what Travis

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Speaker 3: brought and how excellent he is. So in the evaluation

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Speaker 3: right of Lejhonte Western of Horne Junior, right of Will Shepherd.

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Speaker 3: Are we able to contextualize that receiving group because I know,

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Speaker 3: like with CJ. Stroud, it's like, Oh, he's throwing to

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Speaker 3: these guys, right or with mac Jones, like, oh he's

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Speaker 3: thrown to three wide receivers that could that could be

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Speaker 3: in the top twenty right, right?

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Speaker 4: What are we what are we seeing.

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Speaker 3: About the rest of that Colorado receiving group? And what

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Speaker 3: does it say about shador I.

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Speaker 6: Think it says that he the same, like kind of similar,

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Speaker 6: like the same player you saw at Jackson State. He

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Speaker 6: carry that over to a Division one program and that's

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Speaker 6: more of a testament to him. It's so fascinating to

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Speaker 6: me because and I want to say this very carefully

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Speaker 6: because I don't want it to feel like a knock

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Speaker 6: on him. His father is one of the greatest football

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Speaker 6: athletes of all time, and it feels like maybe like

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Speaker 6: he didn't get the athletic jeans from his dad, and

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Speaker 6: so he's had and he's kind of like if you

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Speaker 6: listen to him, talk to you, kind of talked about it.

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Speaker 6: He's had to build himself if he's gonna win and

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Speaker 6: be auccessful quarterback. He has to do it and be

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Speaker 6: a pure podet past. He knows that, and so dj

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Speaker 6: Denjermias talked about he has kind of had to overcompensate

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Speaker 6: for maybe not having those physical gifts. And when you

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Speaker 6: watch his tapement there's so much of it, you absolutely

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Speaker 6: see it, like his processing. When you watched his tape,

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Speaker 6: it's very obvious that he can dissect a defense and

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Speaker 6: so how like you would think that is just a

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Speaker 6: very valuable trait that NFL teams that need a quarterback

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Speaker 6: would want, But there just seems to be a disconnect

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Speaker 6: and plus, can we can we keep it real? He's

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Speaker 6: a young black quarterback who is sure of who he

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Speaker 6: is and he's having these meetings with gms and these

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Speaker 6: white owners. And we saw a little bit of Kayla

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Speaker 6: Williams last year, do we not, So there's also that

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Speaker 6: being mixed into the equation as well.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's made a lot of money and he's

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Speaker 1: been a big star for a while. He hasn't made

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Speaker 1: a lot of money for a while, but he comes

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Speaker 1: from a lot of money his whole life, and he's

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Speaker 1: made a lot of money. Like the last couple of years,

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Speaker 1: and so I think he's going in maybe with a

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Speaker 1: bit of confidence. And I still believe that maybe there's

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Speaker 1: some teams that he doesn't he doesn't want.

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Speaker 4: To go to.

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Speaker 3: And also, we don't have any quotes from any of this, right,

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Speaker 3: Like nobody has said if something that he has done

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Speaker 3: has been so egregious that at Warrant's reporting, nobody has

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Speaker 3: said whatever he said or how we said it. It's

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Speaker 3: all just been vibes and intimation that like.

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Speaker 5: I don't care, we don't have we don't have how

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Speaker 5: the game is real. We keep it a buck.

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Speaker 3: But like, at the very least, if Shad Sanders has

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Speaker 3: said something that warrants you saying that all teams didn't

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Speaker 3: like this, did you ask them what he said?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Like, why do you not ask them what he said?

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Speaker 1: I like that it took Patrick to get Adam to

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Speaker 1: bring out a Saints block party voice instead of like

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Speaker 1: this NFL Daily voice he's putting on.

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Speaker 2: Let me call out.

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Speaker 4: I love vo love it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So yeah, that's the word I was looking for Sanders.

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Speaker 1: So here's the thing. You're right about the processing. You're

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Speaker 1: right about that he's so sharp. He can make some

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Speaker 1: great throws over the middle of the field. He doesn't

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Speaker 1: have an amazing arm, but it's good enough. He's not

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Speaker 1: an incredible athlete, but it's good enough. I think the

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Speaker 1: idea about quarterback in twenty twenty five, to answer kind

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Speaker 1: of what you were saying, Adam, is like, have we

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Speaker 1: gone too far just looking for traits guys?

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. I just think you have

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Speaker 2: to have a bait.

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Speaker 1: There is you have to have a baseline of athleticism

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Speaker 1: to even play the position. But that's everyone's got it.

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Speaker 1: I Kevin see the spect lately, maybe it shuck. Actually

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Speaker 1: that doesn't have the baseline of athletics. So they've all

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Speaker 1: got it like they've did. Everyone now is at least

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Speaker 1: mid tier. None of them are Jared Goff coming out

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Speaker 1: of cow and Jared Goff's made it work. Jared Goff

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Speaker 1: has made a lot of money, so it shows. But

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Speaker 1: like those guys that don't even exist in college football.

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Speaker 1: And the thing about Sanders that it's really hard to

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Speaker 1: unpack and we'll move on from him, is just despite

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Speaker 1: all that processing and despite the bad surroundings in terms

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Speaker 1: of the offensive line and some most of the receivers,

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Speaker 1: he still just like holds onto the ball forever, maybe

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Speaker 1: trying to make that play and that that is that

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Speaker 1: is sometimes not a trade that you get out of.

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Speaker 1: And I think teams would want him to get out

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Speaker 1: of it because because yeah, the line was bad, but man,

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Speaker 1: he just that's tough.

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Speaker 2: You don't want your.

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Speaker 1: Guy holding onto the ball that long unless you are

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Speaker 1: a special athlete, and he's not. So that combination is

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Speaker 1: something I think they would have to improve on at

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Speaker 1: the pro level or else he's your guy, or else

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Speaker 1: he might be a little bit like your guy Derek Carr.

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Speaker 2: Uh, you know who.

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Speaker 1: Who is a good athlete? Actually, I would say Derek

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Speaker 1: Carr coming out a good treat like.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say before he get like the injuries. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I just mean.

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Speaker 1: There's some similarities there where he was always trying to

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Speaker 1: hold on to the ball, but different maybe in terms

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Speaker 1: of processing all that.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk on it. Let's talk on Let's talk about

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Speaker 2: other players. I want to talk Cam Skataboo.

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Speaker 1: Somehow, one of the most famous players in college football

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Speaker 1: has not been mentioned on NFL Daily a lot. There's

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Speaker 1: opinions all over the place of where maybe he fits

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Speaker 1: in as an NFL draft prospect.

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Speaker 2: All along, people are like, oh, well.

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Speaker 1: He's not really going to be respected by the NFL

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Speaker 1: and he's probably more of like a mid to late

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Speaker 1: round type of guy. And as we get closer, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, man, I think he's gonna have fans and

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't see the reason why he can't

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Speaker 1: be an NFL contributor. What do you think about our

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Speaker 1: guy skataboo?

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Speaker 6: Until he works out and like the athletic Test team

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Speaker 6: comes back, there's just gonna be those questions during the

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Speaker 6: combine and DJ compared them to Million Bomber like back

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Speaker 6: throwback Cowboys running back just invites contact, and when you

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Speaker 6: watched him at Arizona State, like that's very much as

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Speaker 6: playing style.

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Speaker 5: Very much is playing style, And the easy thing to

658
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 5: do would just be to just.

659
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 6: Throw out any like white running back like there is

660
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 6: to call him too.

661
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 4: Like that's the thing to do.

662
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, Like, oh, at least Toby Gerhart and that's like,

663
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 6: that's not that's not fair to him. But he One

664
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 6: thing that I feel is a very underrated part about

665
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 6: his game is he's very good in the receiving. But

666
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 6: I think those questions are still going to linger about

667
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 6: him until he actually works out at Arizona' pro day.

668
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 6: He didn't work out the combine. He had a nagging injury.

669
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 6: He didn't He wasn't here. Well, originally he was on

670
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 6: the roster here at the Big twelve Pro day, but

671
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 6: he ended up not being here. So until I I

672
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 6: think you just know how it is when in terms

673
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 6: of football and scouts, until people see like what he

674
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 6: actually is as they put him for athlete, there's gonna

675
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 6: be those lingering questions in terms of working potentially what

676
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 6: he projects to at the next level.

677
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is very lazy, right to comp like a

678
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 3: two hundred and fifteen I believe pound camp's kind of

679
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 3: to like these two hundred and forty pound backs I've

680
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 3: heard like some full back comps, and it's just maybe it.

681
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 4: Was the cut of his jersey.

682
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 3: They're leading people to think that he's this big, like

683
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 3: physically imposing back when you know he's not six feet

684
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 3: right around two fifteen, that you know runs hard, it

685
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 3: has good speed.

686
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 4: It's just a good running back.

687
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Speaker 1: I mean his his yards per after contact numbers are crazy,

688
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: his mistackles force numbers are crazy. And I love that

689
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: our guy Maurice is not worried about being like the

690
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: rest of the draft necks out there. He ranks gen

691
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: t number one, He ranks Trevon Henderson from Ohio State

692
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: number two, and he has Scatabo as his number three back,

693
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: ahead of guys like quinch On Judkins, ahead of the

694
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Speaker 1: Omarion Hampton. And he thinks he can step in and

695
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: be a day one starter. Now we've seen guys like

696
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: him actually even that are day one starters that are

697
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: just kind of like like a reco like like maybe

698
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: he's like a twenty twenty four Rico Dawdle type from

699
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Speaker 1: the beginnings. Even those guys get taken third round. Doesn't

700
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: mean he's going to go high. But I think he

701
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: can help the team.

702
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Speaker 6: Yeah, And I think I think a team will take

703
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 6: a fly on him round three, round four, Like it's

704
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Speaker 6: it's going to happen. Like he's such a good player

705
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 6: and he was so productive that Arizona stage that his

706
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Speaker 6: film doesn't lie.

707
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Speaker 1: But I just it's sell some jerseys too, Let's go,

708
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: oh absolutely, those things would sell immediately, like the immediately.

709
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: Not to bring up Steven the Trainer again, but like

710
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: he like he's one of two college players that like

711
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: casuals now everyone asks about Scatibo, it's gotta there's gotta

712
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: be there's gotta be value to that.

713
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Speaker 5: And everyone has an opinion about Scott as well. Everyone

714
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Speaker 5: does so.

715
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Speaker 3: But yeah, speaking of production, I feel like Ted McMillan

716
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 3: because of this, because of this Travis Hunter effect, we're

717
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 3: downrating a lot of receivers that had a lot of production.

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Speaker 4: How do you view.

719
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Speaker 3: Ted McMillan if we wanted to like contextualize him with

720
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Speaker 3: not this class?

721
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Speaker 4: Hm hm oh.

722
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Speaker 5: So that was someone that we watched When I say we,

723
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Speaker 5: Ryan and.

724
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Speaker 6: I watched when we broke him down, and I felt

725
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 6: like I came away from his film.

726
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 5: Wanting like I went in expecting more, when I came.

727
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 6: Away a little a little disappointed, and the player that

728
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,760
Speaker 6: I up thinking about the most when I watched them,

729
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 6: I was completely wrong on So it may end up

730
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Speaker 6: being well.

731
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Speaker 5: Was I felt. I felt like I was watching.

732
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Speaker 6: Portland Sun at SMU and I was completely wrong about

733
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Speaker 6: Courtland Sun. But in Corton Suton has gone on to

734
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 6: break career in the NFL. He he went in the

735
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 6: second round. I think I I think the Drake London

736
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 6: comparisons like I under I understand them, but I think

737
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 6: the discourse for Ted has completely gotten a little out.

738
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Speaker 4: Of control to be.

739
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Speaker 6: Like saying that now he's going to get drafted like

740
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Speaker 6: late twenties, like late twenties, and I could and I

741
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 6: could even understand how you know, what I'm hearing is

742
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 6: that there's a lot of teams that have Matthew Golden

743
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 6: Texas ride receiver as number of the wide receiver one

744
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 6: on theirs. I get it, but like the fact that

745
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 6: like you see that have tech going in like the twenties,

746
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:04,959
Speaker 6: I think that's I think that's.

747
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 2: You just called Dannel Jeremiah. That's tough.

748
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 6: I mean that it's not a side of DJ, but

749
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 6: I just think I think it's asinine. And because I

750
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 6: think there's a place for I'm using like I'll use

751
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 6: those things out the perfect example, I think if the

752
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 6: of the Saints podcast, so the Saints took him, he

753
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 6: brings a hierarchy to that wide receiver room and kind

754
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 6: of like you know, teams like to have, like you know,

755
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 6: like a basketball team for like for the right receivers

756
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 6: and I to have someone that can go box out

757
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 6: like possession. They like to have the speed guy, so

758
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 6: they have Crystal Lot and have Rachet. They're missing that

759
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 6: that chain mover, They're missing that that fifty to fifty

760
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 6: guy tech would like bring that hierarchy. I think what

761
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 6: teams I think where teams are struggling with is he

762
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 6: does you know the separation from cornerbacks in college is

763
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 6: a legitimate thing, and so that's why.

764
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Speaker 5: The forty for him.

765
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Speaker 6: I I don't like to get like harp on it,

766
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 6: but for some players the forty is important.

767
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 5: I felt like for him it was important.

768
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 6: But if you're telling me that you could be essentially

769
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 6: drafting potentially Drake London in the draft at in top

770
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 6: ten in this draft, are you telling me that most

771
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 6: teams would say would say no to that, Like Greg

772
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 6: for instance, could if the Patriots at four could be

773
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 6: sure that they're drafting Drake London at four, Wow, they

774
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Speaker 6: do that?

775
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: Well, of course they would, they would do that. But

776
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 1: he's not the prospect that Drake London was. This is

777
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 1: which I think he is an example of the inflation

778
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: of this draft class where there's not wide receiver one,

779
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 1: wide receiver two. So he is in that group where

780
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: it's not crazy if he gets taken in.

781
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 2: The top ten.

782
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: But he could fall down to twenty five, and everyone's

783
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,240
Speaker 1: got like different flavors.

784
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 3: I just look, if we're if we're going to contextualize

785
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 3: the quarterbacks by their surrounding talent.

786
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, Ted McMillan.

787
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 3: Boy, Ted McMillan holds forty four percent of the receiving

788
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 3: yards for Arizona Life last year.

789
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 4: Right, Okay.

790
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 3: I think this quarterback was and I think a lot

791
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 3: of the reason that we don't see the separation at

792
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 3: the catch point was because there wasn't the opportunity for

793
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 3: him to do that because the ball wasn't on time,

794
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 3: it was late. And I just feel like if we

795
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 3: had Technic Millan in another situation, okay, we would probably

796
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,439
Speaker 3: view it differently. Where I can't. I can't look away

797
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,919
Speaker 3: from the fact that nobody else was catching the ball.

798
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Speaker 4: Team.

799
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Speaker 1: All I'm saying is, if you look historically, T Higgins

800
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 1: is another guy similar Ish mold.

801
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 4: Oh, I don't think it's who I liked.

802
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: As a prospect a lot. He went thirty thirty, I know,

803
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,760
Speaker 1: And so you're saying T. Higgins was a much better prospect,

804
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: and he was a divisive prospect at that time too.

805
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 2: But I'm looking at that.

806
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: Class and you know, Pittman goes thirty four, and this

807
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 1: is it's a little unfair because that class was sick,

808
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: and I goes twenty five, and Justin Jefferson goes twenty one,

809
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb goes seventeen.

810
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 4: He's not in the class class.

811
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was also just a preposteros class. So it's

812
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 1: not a fair one to compare it to Henry Ruggs,

813
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: by the way, when ahead of all of them, and

814
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:08,720
Speaker 1: so did Jerry Judy. But he's not in that class

815
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,240
Speaker 1: of prospects. So that's why I don't think it's acid

816
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: nine for him to go in the twenties because you

817
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: could just comparing him to other positions offensive linemen in

818
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: this class, defensive edge players, and they're all kind of

819
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: in one mix where it's like, yeah, he could go

820
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 1: he could go four if the Patriots got really crazy,

821
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: or nine if the Saints got crazy, But he also

822
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: goes twenty five and it's fine because he's he's not

823
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: like that.

824
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 6: So let's stick with the same tech thing. I'll say this,

825
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 6: I've said on my podcast, so I'm not breaking any

826
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 6: news on our podcast. I'm not breaking any news like

827
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 6: he's in the Saints cloud at nine. Like, if he's

828
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 6: got at nine, there's a.

829
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 2: Big Okay, give us the rest of the Saints cloud

830
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 2: while we're doing this.

831
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Speaker 6: Oh absolutely not Saints block party dot com?

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Speaker 2: Now will he'd be a break? You come on here,

833
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 2: you give us the good stuff.

834
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Speaker 5: I'll give you one player that's in there.

835
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 6: Hold now that this is this is this is how

836
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 6: I get. I'll give you two offensive players, Ted and

837
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 6: Tyler Warren that there are two often there.

838
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 2: Is in there too.

839
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Speaker 6: Man. I just think I think that's I think that's

840
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Speaker 6: a that's gonna be a heated, heated discussion if he's

841
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,439
Speaker 6: there or not. I don't think it's a slam dunk.

842
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:23,280
Speaker 6: I think it would get that's a that's a that's

843
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 6: we talked.

844
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Speaker 5: About this right if like the like how much juices Kellen.

845
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 6: Have, that's a if Kellen loves or because they only

846
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 6: have one one.

847
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 5: Round one raid on the quarterback in the class and

848
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Speaker 5: that's camp Warren.

849
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Speaker 6: So they would essentially be, you know, no drafting a

850
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Speaker 6: grade high they take, which I would be for. I

851
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 6: would understand it, but Callen would have to essentially be

852
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 6: saying that is my guy, that is my guy. I

853
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 6: don't care if Tet's on the board. I don't care

854
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,439
Speaker 6: if Tyler Warren's on the board. That is my guy,

855
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 6: that's my quarterback of the future. I can make an

856
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,720
Speaker 6: offense in and I feel and I should door would.

857
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 6: I feel like it's like would be perfect in Kellen's offense.

858
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 6: But that's a Kellen Moore decision because where the rap

859
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 6: grade is for them, he would not align.

860
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Speaker 2: I think it'd be a good fit.

861
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Speaker 1: I think he is coaches always coaches always like the

862
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: players that are like better versions of them, And in theory,

863
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: Shouldry Sanders is a much better version of Kellen Moore.

864
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,240
Speaker 3: I just like the idea of a power struggle already

865
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 3: between between Loomis and Kellen Moore.

866
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 1: Well, let's let's get to it. Let's get to it.

867
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: We'll wrap up talking a little Derek Carr. You you

868
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: had reported before Kellen Moore even came aboard. I mean

869
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: that he didn't necessarily want Derek Carr as his quarterback

870
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: if he was gonna become the coach.

871
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 2: Derek Carr is still there.

872
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: The spicier thing that that I find interesting over the

873
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: last handful of days is that you reported not that

874
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: the Saints are interested in trading because they've made it

875
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,720
Speaker 1: clear the Saints, who I'll just refer to as Mickey Loomis.

876
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: Mickey Loomis is the Saints. He is the Saints. He

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Speaker 1: wants Derek Carr, he wants to run it back. He

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Speaker 1: wants to prove that all it was last year was

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Speaker 1: a bunch of injuries and this team can win.

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Speaker 2: He likes Derek Carr clearly.

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Speaker 1: But you you reported that maybe Derek Carr doesn't like

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Speaker 1: being with the Saints.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I reported that last Friday that.

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Speaker 2: He wouldn't mind being traded. It would be was how

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Speaker 2: you he.

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Speaker 6: Still wants to be traded, like, he still wants to

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Speaker 6: be traded, And if you look at the Brett crumbs,

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Speaker 6: I don't feel like I'm reporting anything crazy, right because

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Speaker 6: even if you look at the report from ESPN and

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Speaker 6: Jumpy Vowler when they essentially restructed his contract so essentially

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Speaker 6: be able to be active in free agency, that's you

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Speaker 6: know they it was that it was a back and forth.

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Speaker 5: Even your the podcast you did NFL.

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Speaker 6: Daily that you did with Klastero, he also hinted that

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Speaker 6: at that point they didn't know if Derek Carr was

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Speaker 6: him for Packer not those were Brett crumbs being dropped.

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Speaker 6: Jeremy Vala reported that Derek Carr had like with anticipating

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Speaker 6: that he was potentially looking forward to hitting the open market.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you got better. You got better sources with the

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Speaker 1: Saints than these guys.

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Speaker 6: So I didn't report anything crazy or outlandish, but it's

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Speaker 6: just it's fascinating because I know I was told that

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Speaker 6: he wants to be trained. Wasn't told, wasn't told why,

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Speaker 6: But it's just a weird thing. So the coach, the

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Speaker 6: head coach before he comes on board, told the GM, hey,

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Speaker 6: I would really not like Derek Carter to be my quarterback.

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Speaker 6: Somehow in the mix after he gets hired, the GM

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Speaker 6: coaxes conventions, convinces.

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Speaker 5: Kellen Moore to ride with Derek Carr.

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Speaker 6: And now Derek Carr is like, eh, I don't want

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Speaker 6: to be the quarterback cre anymore. And the GM's like,

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Speaker 6: but I wanted to like preserve my job and say

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Speaker 6: my job. And the only way I see that to

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Speaker 6: be a viable route is to move forward with this

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Speaker 6: quarterback that doesn't want to be here. It's already dysfunctional

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Speaker 6: and the season hasn't even started yet.

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Speaker 2: It's bad.

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Speaker 1: That's bad, and if I'm Derek Carr, I would want

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Speaker 1: to go to any of the potential options. Number one,

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Speaker 1: the Steelers, Number two the Giants would be better, I

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Speaker 1: think for him. And at least he's played with Brian

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Speaker 1: Callahan before, so he might not be feeling great vibes

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Speaker 1: in New Orleans. He knows the fan base doesn't look

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Speaker 1: like it's a whole thing. It's a whole thing. It's interesting,

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean that it's likely to happen. It's just an

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Speaker 1: interesting and so.

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Speaker 6: I think it does get more likely depending on that

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Speaker 6: whole discussion we talked about. If shoulders there at nine

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Speaker 6: and right, I think that completely changes things.

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Speaker 3: And also Aaron Rodgers could stop playing football and then

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Speaker 3: there could be you know, in terms of dance partners

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Speaker 3: at the ball, maybe the value goes back up where

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Speaker 3: I'm wondering who wants it?

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Speaker 4: More like who's.

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Speaker 3: Adam already covered the you know, the hypothetical benefit for

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Speaker 3: Mickey loomis to stay and have Derek Carr be successful,

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Speaker 3: and seeing that as a path to keeping his job,

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure that there's a path not.

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Speaker 4: To have the job.

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Speaker 1: That's I mean that the history would prove you right,

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Speaker 1: but I gotta I gotta think that's at some point,

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Speaker 1: at some point, Adam, I love having you on. I

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Speaker 1: love Patrick bringing out the Saints Black Party, Adam, I love,

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Speaker 1: I love any Adam, Appreciate you. Enjoy the rest of

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Speaker 1: Big twelve Pro Day, and yes, everyone check out Adam's

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Speaker 1: podcast You Got thet The Patriot Adam love you and

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Speaker 1: Ryan dat boy Wolf on Twitter. Love you guys, Appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: Come coming. It has been a great week here on

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Speaker 1: NFL Daily. We we got we're breaking news all over

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Speaker 1: the place. Jeremiah's breaking news like an insider. Adam's got

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Speaker 1: some news like an insider. You got to step your

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Speaker 1: game up.

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Speaker 3: Patrick, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna call all my sources.

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Speaker 3: It's just y'all. So that's all I got, all right.

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Speaker 1: When we're when we're when we're dogging on Mickey Loomis Man,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, that could be any day of

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Speaker 1: the week, but you know, football is back.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you next week.

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Speaker 4: Mm hmm.