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Speaker 1: David Arquette is an actor and if you didn't know,

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Speaker 1: he was a former professional wrestler too. He is best

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Speaker 1: known for his role as Dewey Riley and the slasher

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Speaker 1: film franchise Scream, as well as Buffy the Vampire Slayer,

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Speaker 1: Never Been Kissed and more. You can also catch him

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Speaker 1: in Missus Davis streaming on Peacock. This is just be

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Speaker 1: with David Arquette. What are you running around? What's so

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Speaker 1: important that you're doing? I'm powdering my face? What's all?

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Speaker 1: What are you doing?

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Speaker 2: Nothing? I just have a show coming out, just doing

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Speaker 2: this and I went golfing for a little earlier.

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Speaker 1: So you are in LA.

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Speaker 2: I'm in Nashville.

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Speaker 1: Oh right, you moved to Nashville. And what was what

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Speaker 1: precipitated that move?

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Speaker 2: I have two kids with my wife, Christina, and she

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Speaker 2: wanted to raise the boys outside of a big city

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Speaker 2: like LA. She's from Arkansas. So my daughter still she's

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Speaker 2: eighteen now she lives in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: But and that was a big thing. I think a

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Speaker 1: lot of people did that to Nashville in particular during

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Speaker 1: the and Texas from LA during pandemic.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's been interesting, you know, I grew up

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Speaker 2: But you know, it's a calmer life here and too sweet.

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Speaker 2: We've got a nice little community.

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Speaker 1: So I have had so many people on here and

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Speaker 1: you're reading about you was honestly, if the most interesting,

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Speaker 1: if not one of the most. I mean it was

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Speaker 1: really There was so many things I read about you

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Speaker 1: that I would never have known. And you're my era,

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Speaker 1: you're my generation, like you're someone I read about in

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Speaker 1: you know, the magazines and tabloids and senior movies. So

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Speaker 1: I was shocked that there were all these things I

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Speaker 1: didn't know about you that were surprising, like many multi layered,

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, really interesting, really interesting. So reading that

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Speaker 1: the only thing that was not a surprise was reading

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Speaker 1: that you're an introvert. That was that comes across in

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Speaker 1: your persona.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a really hard it's getting more. I'm

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Speaker 2: getting more comfortable in social situations. But it's a roller coaster.

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Speaker 1: It's a roller coaster, and sometimes I don't think being

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Speaker 1: is real. And I meet people, I know some people

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Speaker 1: that have been living a life as an extrovert, uncomfortably,

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Speaker 1: but they actually are an introvert. And I think as

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Speaker 1: you get older and into your fifties, you start to

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Speaker 1: think about that because just because you have a personality

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean you want to interact, you know, like reading

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Speaker 1: about you. Like I don't like to transact. I don't

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Speaker 1: anxiety from transacting. So, and I was just talking to

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Speaker 1: someone who said that she has been living her life

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Speaker 1: as an introvert. I mean as an extrovert, but is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know I used to, I mean aside

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Speaker 2: just in life. I used to drink to kind of

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Speaker 2: But I've realized that a lot of my behavior when

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Speaker 2: But as an actor, I don't know, I'm you know,

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Speaker 2: there's some things where I don't know. I think that's

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Speaker 2: just to kind of like, you know, to like, okay,

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Speaker 1: Or well they can talk about that, but it's not

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Speaker 2: Yeah, then you then you're like, oh, what are these

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Speaker 1: I can make you feel I don't. I think it's

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Speaker 1: But that's also age. Like if I don't like anything repetitive,

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Speaker 1: So we're all getting crazier or or more authentically who

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Speaker 1: we really are. So I guess if you had to

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Speaker 2: Right a little. I just a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 2: I did a documentary called You Could Not Kill David

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Speaker 2: or Cat, and it sort of focuses on my love

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Speaker 2: And in a sense, it's kind of a little snapshot

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Speaker 1: But the wrestling thing was a real thing. It's a

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Speaker 1: Like it sounds like a new identity, but so unusual.

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Speaker 1: So it's not a hot It wasn't a hobby. You

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what the heck?

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Speaker 1: Explain that.

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Speaker 2: It's a really interesting form of entertainment. I don't think

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Speaker 2: it's like understood by people. I think it's like brushed

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Speaker 2: when you get into it. And like I toured for

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Speaker 2: It was because they almost died.

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Speaker 1: So wow, it's so super dangerous.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the whole lesson. Yeah. I got stabbed in the

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Speaker 2: I was really sort of opened. You know. You see

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Speaker 2: It's pretty intense.

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Speaker 1: Wow. So the wrestling was was was harmful to yourself

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Speaker 2: Up with physically harmful Yeah, to your body, it's completely destructive,

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Speaker 2: pattering your feet a lot, and once you like learn

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Speaker 1: And do you do it at all? Now? Are you

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Speaker 2: No, I don't do it at the moment. I'm not

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Speaker 2: much that I'm not like I'm open to having some

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Speaker 2: sort of my love for Boso the clown. Like certain

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Speaker 2: So we could go to wrestling matches together, or we

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Speaker 1: I know, Boso's your whole life. So Boso's also my generation,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I fell in love with Boso when I

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Speaker 2: and Bob Bell played Boso and I just fell in

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Speaker 2: love with it. So then I started studying clown. Recently,

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Speaker 2: we're doing a documentary about that, and oh, it's not.

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Speaker 1: Just Boso, it's the whole art of the clown, like

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Speaker 2: We're sort of using Bozo in a sense to sort

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Speaker 2: of bring the brand back, but in a sense help

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Speaker 2: bring back kind clowns and fun clowns and silly clowns

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Speaker 2: and not just scary clowns, because scary clowns are sort

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Speaker 2: of taking up all the air in the room.

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Speaker 1: Do you know Eric stone Street?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I love Eric and I know he's a trained clown.

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Speaker 1: Oh you do. I was gonna say, because he's Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's crazy, Like he's definitely the only train clown I know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd love for him to come play it. I

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Speaker 2: love the stuff they did on Modern Family involving clowns.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's full, he's full. I mean, it's not going

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Speaker 2: I feel like, which is a good way to be.

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Speaker 2: I've seen the other dynamic where it's more like old

434
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Speaker 2: movie star style. It's nice not for me.

435
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:15,360
Speaker 1: Well has that what's been? And you own Bootsy Bellows

436
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 1: where I've been? Isn't there one in Aspen?

437
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:18,400
Speaker 2: Yeah?

438
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 1: Okay, and so that was your concept. That doesn't seem

439
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 1: that does not seem like you at all. Someone came

440
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,360
Speaker 1: to you with the concept or you created the concept.

441
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 2: We have puppets, so that might be right. It's named

442
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 2: after my mother. I found her in a like a

443
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 2: fifties pinup book and she was ingerie fighting with another

444
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 2: lady and I was like, Mom, I was eighteen. I'm like, Mom,

445
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 2: I found you in this book. It's like, oh, you know,

446
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 2: we weren't really fighting. Like, oh Mom, Like did you

447
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 2: ever strip? And she was like no, but I burlest

448
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 2: danced a couple of times. It's like, did you have

449
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 2: a burlest day ancing name? And she said Bootsy Bellows.

450
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 2: So that's why it's named that. I opened it with

451
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 2: my two partners, Brian Tole and John Chersey in from

452
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 2: the h Wood Group, and they've gone on to open

453
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:18,119
Speaker 2: about twenty different places. And yeah, so Bootsies have been great.

454
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Speaker 2: We have one at Sofi Stadium too for all of

455
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:20,880
Speaker 2: the round.

456
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're partners and all of them.

457
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Aspen's a licensing deal, so we have

458
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 2: a partner up there Andrew. But aside from that.

459
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Speaker 1: Yeah, are you business minded a little bit?

460
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 2: It's not like I'm not the greatest about it. I

461
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,679
Speaker 2: need business partners. I'm more creative marketing, like I have

462
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 2: those kind of things.

463
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Speaker 1: Sounds like, I mean for someone who's more creative than

464
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Speaker 1: business minded. And first of all the most important thing

465
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 1: is to know that, because so many people who are

466
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: creative have opportunities and then they think that they're like

467
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 1: the business part of it, and the chefs do this

468
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:00,679
Speaker 1: all the time and it ends up being disaster. And

469
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: so it's smart to say I'm more creative, but I

470
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 1: partner with the right people. But I think it's fascinating

471
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: that you came. You have two things that really have

472
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 1: like gone on for exponential success.

473
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Speaker 2: Is it?

474
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 1: Do you what percentage of your career do you think

475
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: has been luck and skill? And I consider yeah, luck

476
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: intelligent skill. I consider skill like knowing the right projects

477
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: to pick. Also, so what percentage do you think is each?

478
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of luck in general, just

479
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,199
Speaker 2: in this business, in whatever business you're going in. I

480
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,479
Speaker 2: also think a lot of that luck comes from falling

481
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 2: down on your face first and then you know, you know,

482
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 2: your first experience in the night club industry or my

483
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 2: first experience was I learned a lot, I lost a lot.

484
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 2: I was then able to go on and create something successful.

485
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 2: So the first one I lost a lot. The second

486
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 2: one has gone on for ten years now. But yeah,

487
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,719
Speaker 2: learning from your mistakes is really important, and you know,

488
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 2: figuring out how to delegate, how to work with people.

489
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 2: The best experiences I've had on a professional level, I

490
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 2: mean some of them. We did a game show at

491
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 2: one point called Celebrity Name Game, and we got to

492
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 2: work with a Fremantle and and just like, yeah, I

493
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 2: don't know, just the group that we had brought together,

494
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 2: they were just so like, I don't know, just everyone

495
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 2: knew their job and did it really well on a

496
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 2: very high level. So it was like having this really

497
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 2: you know, the pie got cut up a lot more

498
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 2: people were just yeah, I don't know. There was just

499
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 2: a professional level. So when you the point is when

500
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 2: you work with you know, really skilled people, you share

501
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 2: with them, but then you you know, you create the boat. Right.

502
00:27:55,720 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: It's the alchemy, which somebody Ian Schrager said to me

503
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 1: about everything coming together alchemy. I like that word. H No,

504
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: But it sounds like you were an actor and kind

505
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: of early in diversifying your portfolio and being in these

506
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: other businesses that are passive income. You know, like you're

507
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 1: sleeping and Booty Bell is making money.

508
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was mainly like out of a desire not

509
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 2: to just go crazy. There's a certain like pretty much

510
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 2: let's say November November to through the new year. As

511
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 2: an actor, if you haven't booked something, you're just gonna

512
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 2: be like excessive three months. And it's during the holidays.

513
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 2: It's just really hard. You know, you typically actor, you know,

514
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,479
Speaker 2: if you're not don't have certain income, if you're a

515
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 2: working actor, it literally can be like the hardest time

516
00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:00,040
Speaker 2: of the years, right around Christmas. It's is so I

517
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:00,479
Speaker 2: don't know that.

518
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: No one's ever said that to me before. I did

519
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: not know. I would never have known that.

520
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's changed a little now. It was

521
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 2: even hardercore when there were three networks and you know, right,

522
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 2: but it's a little better now. But if you haven't

523
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 2: booked something and then you go into so for that,

524
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 2: I started, you know, making sure I was doing art,

525
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 2: making sure I was you know, doing some other business.

526
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 2: I started a clothing line for a while with Ben

527
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 2: Harper called Proper and you know, took another bath with that. Yeah,

528
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 2: but learned. It was like this incredible experience like learning

529
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 2: the garment industry and.

530
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: You're usually putting your own money into these things.

531
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 2: It's like a dumb yeah yeah, okay arts. Yeah.

532
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: So what's been the most lucrative business what's been the

533
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: most lucrative aspect of your entire career. I'm not saying

534
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: you like tell me what the numbers. I just mean, like,

535
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: what thing would we be surprised by it?

536
00:29:55,600 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 2: I don't know. My wife's just amazing think she she

537
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 2: produced the helped produce the They Call Me Magic, the

538
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 2: Magic Johnson documentary and being able to I produce it

539
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 2: with her. Oh okay, I was a co ep. But

540
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 2: being able to work with, you know, a hero of

541
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,479
Speaker 2: mine like magic and create something that he was proud of,

542
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 2: that was really a joy. We also invested in a

543
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 2: nonfiction movie studio called XTR and and my friend Tony,

544
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 2: she had invested in a movie that got nominated for

545
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 2: an Academy Award after he had passed. But that was

546
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 2: kind of a big moment, just because it was something

547
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,959
Speaker 2: he wanted to get nominated for something at Sundance.

548
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: And definitely an investor and I don't that's nowhere written

549
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: that's interest. You're definitely an investor. You just named like

550
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: ten different investments over the course of the conversation.

551
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 2: You're an investor, I mean early seed money, sweat equity.

552
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 2: That's like then bring investors for the bigger sort of

553
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 2: stuff is sort of what we.

554
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: So, what's been the best thing you've ever invested in?

555
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 2: I don't know. I've invested in both of the clown

556
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 2: It took me fifteen years and it was like a

557
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 2: dream of mine from when I was a kid. It

558
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 2: wass been more than I you know, anticipated like you

559
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 2: kind of need a huge infrastructure and like you know,

560
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 2: big time lawyers to kind of handle a ip like this.

561
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 2: But it's been really a lot of joy. You know,

562
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 2: we're doing music and we're going to do a film

563
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 2: and doing a documentary at the moment, which has been fun,

564
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 2: like editing with my wife, it's always hilarious.

565
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: From a business perspective, like tell me what, Like I'm

566
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,479
Speaker 1: not asking numbers, like what has had the best ROI

567
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: not not emotionally, but like actual business the club or

568
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,479
Speaker 1: the scream or scream.

569
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 2: What's the most financially successful?

570
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure is what the club?

571
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 2: Scream? The scream stuff? Well, the club, you know where

572
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 2: the club is is great and incredible. It's more of

573
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 2: a if we ever sell it kind of thing that

574
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 2: would be then at that point, but right now it's uh,

575
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 2: it would be scream.

576
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: But screaming because it has all of the other appearances

577
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: and all the other things that go with it, and

578
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: like it's a whole world. Is like being an American

579
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: idol or something. You keep going on tour and it's

580
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: a whole thing.

581
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I kind of met weird like I look

582
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 2: for my high marks, not sort of on the financial side.

583
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 2: It's more like the little moments of uh, sort of

584
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 2: full circle moments. Because I was doing Missus Davis and

585
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 2: I'd gotten it from an audition on on the computer,

586
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 2: which I never you know, right, for years, you send

587
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 2: in these things and you know, you never hear. So

588
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 2: I finally got one and it's a really big show.

589
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 2: I get to work with these incredible directors and actors.

590
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 2: And then I worked on a and it's on the

591
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 2: Warner Brothers lot, so I spent a lot of time

592
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 2: time they're doing the friends time right moment of I've

593
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 2: always loved magicians. I get to play a magician working

594
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 2: with Betsy Gilpin, who's just incredible in this show, and

595
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 2: Elizabeth Marble and I'm just like, like top tier actors.

596
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 2: I just like having this experience and I'm playing a

597
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 2: magician and then I look up and I'm on the

598
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 2: lot and it's it's Warner Brothers right there, and it's big.

599
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 2: We're in the biggest Like.

600
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Speaker 1: It's like getting to feel like what it really was

601
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: or what you dreamt it would be. And it's like magical.

602
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: It sounds like it's interesting.

603
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 2: Back I'm back here.

604
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: No, And it's not like you're doing some weird thing

605
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: just to piece together like a career and money. Like

606
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: you're back to like you're an actor and your autut studio,

607
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: like you know, back Metro Goldwyn Mayer. Like that type

608
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: of vibe. Yeah, I get it. You're on a lot

609
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: like that's very iconic.

610
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 2: Keep fighting, like keep fighting because even right now, I

611
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 2: don't know what my next job is. I'm auditioning for

612
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 2: things and I'm like going out there and I'm having

613
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 2: these meetings and I'm like, you know, you're still just

614
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 2: like you know, thirty three years in this business and

615
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 2: like training you know.

616
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that keeps you alive. That's I think that's interesting.

617
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: It's so funny you say that, because what you're talking

618
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 1: about is purpose and way and like I have certain

619
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: things in my business that are more lucrative than ever.

620
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: Like I'm doing extremely well. But I don't want to

621
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 1: say the word board because I don't want to do

622
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 1: too much. Because I like my life the way I

623
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: like it. So when something comes to me that's gonna

624
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: be really bulky and weeldy and like stressful, I don't

625
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: want to do it. But I also don't want to

626
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: be just like wandering around my house, you know, like

627
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: am I like you know these slippers I have that

628
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 1: have mice on them, like with no So when I

629
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: do these things like you're talking about, I went to

630
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: go do a show in Florida for ten days, and

631
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: like you wake up and like you're in a studio

632
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: and like you're a person and you're interacting, and like

633
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: I don't want that to be my whole life. I

634
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: don't want to be like on a talk show stuff

635
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 1: for three out of sixty five days a year. But

636
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: like you get a little you get a little hit,

637
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: you got a book, an appearance, get on a plane,

638
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,479
Speaker 1: you sit in a hotel, you feel like a person again,

639
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: and then you come back to your nest. But I

640
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 1: get what you're saying because it's like, oh, I have purpose.

641
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. I love when when you can kind of create

642
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 2: your reality in your environment. Think, I'm such a fan

643
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 2: of Adam Sandler in the way he's worked with his friends,

644
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 2: and he's really kind of hated this whole environment. So

645
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 2: it's kind of like my idea with the Bozo thing,

646
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 2: which I'm trying to put together, is just get this

647
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 2: little core group that's not too big, you know what

648
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 2: I mean, that doesn't take huge production to do a film,

649
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 2: and then you can just hang out these things like

650
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 2: a guy named Ernest, the guy who did Earnest. I

651
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 2: don't know if you remember him, but like Ernest goes

652
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 2: to camp and all these things. Yes, of course, the

653
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 2: sort of model where it's just kind of small. You

654
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 2: could do it on your own. You can do it this, Yes,

655
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,240
Speaker 2: hire all your friends. You don't need these huge budgets

656
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 2: because you have these big stars, and then you could

657
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 2: just go have fun and.

658
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: Like rite totally totally well, that's yeah. I literally was

659
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 1: sitting down screwing around a year ago and I became

660
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: a fifty two year old beauty influencer. Literally I've never

661
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: known how to do my own makeup. It bothered me

662
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: because if I was in Ohio, I didn't know how

663
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: to do it, and so I just started playing around

664
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: and all these people on TikTok were like, I didn't

665
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: know they were lying. I didn't know they were filter,

666
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: but they were like, oh my god, the glue. And

667
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: I was like, I want that. I'm buying that, and

668
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: I'm buying that, and then all of a sudden, I

669
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,399
Speaker 1: was like, wait, is this bullshit? And I started buying

670
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 1: all this drug store stuff and comparing it to the

671
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: stuff that I have that people have given me. That's

672
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: expensive because I can afford to buy anything. But I

673
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: was playing around with like cover Girl and the cheap stuff,

674
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: and it was the same exact thing. And it was

675
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,280
Speaker 1: like this discovery because I'm talking to like the moms

676
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: that just want to get out. They have ten minutes

677
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: to get ready. They're not like these experts. And it

678
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: exploded and did this crazy thing. And the thing that

679
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 1: people like about it is the home made of it.

680
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 1: Like I'll go in with bad lighting because I don't

681
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: even know how to do lighting, going into the dollar

682
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: store and start buying makeup, and now everybody wants to

683
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: be in business with me because this thing exploded and

684
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: I tell you millions and millions of views and now

685
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: like YouTube series and stuff, and I'm like, but I

686
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: don't want it to be too perfect. I'm like, I

687
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: don't want like good production. I want it to be

688
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,240
Speaker 1: like decent, but I want it to not be too perfect.

689
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: I'm not if once you make it too perfect, Coca

690
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 1: Cola buys you all fucked. Happened to me in my

691
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: liquor business. Being global, multi billion dollar company comes in,

692
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: You're fucked because it's not like got the trustworthy spirit

693
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: of it. So it's like what you're saying totally, and

694
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: then it wants to be too polished.

695
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 2: Like does one need as far as like being busy,

696
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like it almost feels like

697
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 2: we're the cycle of like work, we're working. Then it's like,

698
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 2: wait a second, it's really nice to go on a walk.

699
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 2: It's really yes, yes, the whin it's like, you know,

700
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 2: appreciate a ict or something like really kind of like

701
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 2: find those moments. That's where That's where I'm kind of like,

702
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 2: now I can spend any amount of time with my

703
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 2: kids because I can go to like their same game

704
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 2: and just sit there.

705
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: Like watch That's what I'm doing today exactly. So you're

706
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 1: like me, where you want to not be like Jello,

707
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: but you also don't want to be in the grind

708
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: where like everything you're talking about is being on your phone.

709
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 1: I got to do this and I got to do that,

710
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: and like schedule with an interviewer life. That's true balance.

711
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: I think everyone always makes it like it's the word,

712
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: you know, that's the true balance, Like just being present

713
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,959
Speaker 1: in being with your kids at the game today because

714
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,720
Speaker 1: I'm going to the lacrosse game and then being present

715
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: in the appearance or the beauty review or the Bozo project,

716
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: like being present in both not apologizing for either, but

717
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 1: also not like working to fill a hole and being Jello,

718
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: you know, to rebel from that.

719
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:58,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it's examples like with Boucies, Boucci is an

720
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 2: h Wood. They become really big. So we used to

721
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 2: always do these Coachello events every year. Bootsy is with

722
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 2: like McDonald's or all these things, and then they just

723
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 2: started then rebranding it now is h Wood. Now they're

724
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 2: doing them all h Wood at Coachella, and I'm kind

725
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 2: of like, you know, for for a second, my ego

726
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 2: gets like, wait, Bootsy started that but then I'm like, right,

727
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 2: I don't have to participate. I don't have to go

728
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 2: to Coachella. I don't have to Not that I did

729
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 2: it all the time anyway, but in general, it's just

730
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm all right with like, Okay, you

731
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 2: guys shine like they're hustling, like do it.

732
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: That's the age. That's the age, like holding on to

733
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 1: everything and realizing it's the under the wave, like you're

734
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: you're not making any less money and it really doesn't matter,

735
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: but like it's so true. You just sit there and

736
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 1: you're like, that's just putting down all these like obligations

737
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: and saying yes in the moment because it sounds good

738
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: because it's just a word, a calendar, And then when

739
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: it comes you're like, I know, I.

740
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 2: Have a real I've been holding back my Yeah. I

741
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 2: said a little more because I used to very much

742
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 2: more like yes, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah yeah yep.

743
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: So you are you have three kids. You have two

744
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: children with your marriage now, which has been along. This

745
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: marriage has been for a long time too, right.

746
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 2: Yeah eight years?

747
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 1: Eight years?

748
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 2: Uh?

749
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,919
Speaker 1: And you live in Nashville, and it sounds like you

750
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: it sounds like you have a decent amount of peace

751
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: like what used to be. I say, someone said to me,

752
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 1: good is great, Like good now is great? Like it's

753
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: not it's not a it's not action crazy like you know,

754
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: off on the seat, off the seat of your pants,

755
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 1: like jets. I used to be like jet setting everywhere

756
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: and running around and like how and low as a

757
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,919
Speaker 1: roller coaster driving with no brakes. But like now life

758
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,280
Speaker 1: is peaceful and good, and I think that at this point,

759
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: like that's what you just want, Like no, like really

760
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: no drama.

761
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean little moments of like I don't

762
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 2: I don't want to get too wild ever, but little

763
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 2: moments of like like I just believe like finding those

764
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 2: moments to like laugh at your friends and just like

765
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 2: have a really great silly time as long as you

766
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 2: can do that, yeah for sure.

767
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you've been sober how many years?

768
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say sober. I don't drink. I will smoke

769
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 2: like once in a while, I try not to do

770
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 2: it too much.

771
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 1: But Okay, so you've been you've not you gave up alcohol.

772
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: But do you call yourself an alcoholic or it just

773
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: wasn't working for you in your life?

774
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 2: Acollic. I'm just an addict in general, I'm like, yeah,

775
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 2: an ego maniac when I do any of that kind

776
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 2: of stuff. But I don't think like pots that bad.

777
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 2: If you're like, you know, gonna go to a sleeve

778
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 2: or some like that, you know a.

779
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: Little bit and you're not going to play boso in

780
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: any of these project.

781
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,479
Speaker 2: And its perfect. I've been I've been playing a little

782
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 2: bit of boso. We're still figuring it all out, but yeah,

783
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 2: I'm going to play bol.

784
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, great. I think that. I mean, respectfully, I

785
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: think that's perfect, you know what I mean. Like, that's

786
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: not that I don't like walk up to people like

787
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: you'd be great at playing boso, but you'd be great

788
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: at playing boso and your kids all love it.

789
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 2: I went to Chicago and like I met with the

790
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 2: WG AND people and they're all like, well, you're not

791
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 2: a Chicago Boso and I was like, maybe I'm an Evanston.

792
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: That's hilarious.

793
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 2: Many wow people. They're very opinionated.

794
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: Did you because you're definitely quirky and I like that, Like,

795
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: you're not mainstream, so I consider myself kind of mainstream sadly,

796
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: Did you know who I was? Did your publicist like

797
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: shove you to meet with me and like do this.

798
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 2: I am totally for sure I think of me. Yeah,

799
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,760
Speaker 2: for sure, I'm a view on the on the show.

800
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 2: But also all of your business, uh prowess has been incredible,

801
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 2: So that's I always look for that, and I always

802
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 2: like think that's impressible.

803
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 1: I would guess that you. I literally if I saw

804
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: you in a restaurant and someone said, oh, and that's

805
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: David Arcada, be like, he definitely has no idea who

806
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: I am. That's what I would say. That's funny. So

807
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: I'm wrong, And it happens a lot on.

808
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 2: Here for sure. No, I love those shows too, I mean,

809
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 2: for for you know when I watch them. I don't

810
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 2: watch them that often. But what is the other thing?

811
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 2: I think you guys may have gone to my first

812
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 2: night club, Beacher's Mad House at one point. I don't

813
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 2: know if you yes?

814
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: Is that is that?

815
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 2: Where's that at the Roosevelt? That was my first night club.

816
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 2: It was at the Roosevelt Hotel. It was called That's

817
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 2: Beacher's Madhouse. Y, yes, I did go there.

818
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 1: I don't know it.

819
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,399
Speaker 2: Wires that would come down at the table with big

820
00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 2: giant bottles of Champagne. I know it's inappropriate and and

821
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 2: it's a different time.

822
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: No, I definitely went there. Yeah, you've had a lot,

823
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 1: You've had many lives, David. I think it was what

824
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: I'm to say, Oh, amazing you have a good memory then,

825
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: because I went to the place and Aspen too, so

826
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: I've supported your business endeavors. Well, it was amazing to

827
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: talk to you, and now I know you and you're very,

828
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 1: very interesting, and I literally I was so excited to

829
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 1: interview you because when I read all about you, I'm like,

830
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: this guy is like a lot going on, someone who

831
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: seems sheepish and quiet. So congratulations on all your success

832
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: and may continue and love to your family. And I

833
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 1: really appreciated talking to you.

834
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 2: Thank you too.

835
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: Awesome. All right, let me know about Bozo and like

836
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: whatever's coming up. I live in Connecticut, but I'm in

837
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: La a lot, So if is ever anything that applies

838
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: to me, I'll support.

839
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 2: You for sure. Healthy Humor. We support Healthy Humor, which

840
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 2: is the medical clowns that go into fifteen hospitals throughout

841
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 2: the county. Oh because they a patient that interacts with

842
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 2: a clown before surgery has a forty better outcome it's

843
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 2: a statistic crazy Argentina. Every children's hospital has medical clowns

844
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 2: in them, so they're really amazing, Like the magical healing that.

845
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: They do that's unbelievable.

846
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 2: In these hospitals. Yeah, it's called Healthy Humor. So we

847
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 2: just did a big event for them at Bootsy Bellows.

848
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 2: So if anything, you'll hear on something.

849
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: Oh I love that, all right, Healthy Humor. I love that.

850
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:42,879
Speaker 1: It's thinking it's New York is Yeah, amazing Okay, and.

851
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 2: Then they were the charity when they separated, and now

852
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 2: they're Healthy Humor.

853
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: You're into everything. This is amazing. Really, you're really touching

854
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 1: so many different things. Okay, is there anything we forgot

855
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: to talk about? Like anything you want to promote it?

856
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: As it pertains to scream or bozo.

857
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 2: Beating America is another charity I do a lot of

858
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 2: work with.

859
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: I've worked with Feeding America because we do relief work

860
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: and we've we've had for uh for Hurricane Maria. You

861
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: were one of the first groups we met with.

862
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 2: If you ever need any any help in that department.

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Speaker 2: I love Feeding America. They're a beautiful organization.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, because we've met them on tarmacs and brought

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Speaker 1: food on planes to go to different relief relief zones. Amazing,

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Speaker 1: so good to meet you and have an amazing day.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Awesome, David. Oh the people you get to meet on

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Speaker 1: just be That was David Arquette, someone that is my

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Speaker 1: generation and I've read about him so much and I'm

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Speaker 1: so lucky that I get to just meet these people

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Speaker 1: that are people, because the truth is we just think

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Speaker 1: of them as characters, as headlines, as tabloids, as people's

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Speaker 1: as characters in movies, and like that's He's a person.

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Speaker 1: He's a cool person, and now I know him, and

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Speaker 1: like this has been such an education. I'm just I

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Speaker 1: don't know, it's just so exciting. Like I read about him,

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Speaker 1: Like what the hell he had so much going on?

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Speaker 1: Why would I know about it? I don't know him,

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Speaker 1: but now I know him. Now you guys know him

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Speaker 1: and support him. So thank you so much for listening.

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Speaker 1: Remember to rate, review and subscribe. That was David Arquette.

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Speaker 1: Very interesting guy.