WEBVTT - Ep. 161: THIS COUNTRY LIFE - Trapping and TNT

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to This Country Life. I'm your host, Brent Rieves.

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<v Speaker 1>From coon hunting to trot lining and just general country living.

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to stay a while as I share

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<v Speaker 1>my stories and the country skills that will help you

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<v Speaker 1>beat the system. This Country Life is proudly presented as

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<v Speaker 1>part of Meat Eater's podcast network, bringing you the best

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<v Speaker 1>outdoor podcast the airways have to offer. All right, friends,

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<v Speaker 1>pull you up a chair or drop that tail gate.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I got a thing or two and teach

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<v Speaker 1>you trapping in TNT. Trapping a controversial subject in some

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<v Speaker 1>places these days, but like it or not, trapping was

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<v Speaker 1>and continues to be an important and effective method of

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<v Speaker 1>predator nuisance, animal control and land protection. As a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>I followed my older brother Tim around, learning the dudes

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<v Speaker 1>and the don'ts, just like he followed our uncle Dob

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<v Speaker 1>around learning from him. Now you've heard me talk about

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<v Speaker 1>Uncle Dob before. He wasn't our uncle, just a longtime

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<v Speaker 1>family friend that, like the rest of us Reeves boys,

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<v Speaker 1>would rather hunt, fish and work a condition none of

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<v Speaker 1>us ever really got under control. Trapping in beaver control stories.

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<v Speaker 1>This week on Meet There's This Country Life podcast. The

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<v Speaker 1>first I'm going to tell you a story. It was

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<v Speaker 1>the winter of nineteen eighty five, and while I was

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<v Speaker 1>enrolled in college at the University of Arkansas at Monticela,

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<v Speaker 1>I worked as a nighttime and weekend dispatcher and jaylor

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<v Speaker 1>at the Warren Police Department. In a town less than

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<v Speaker 1>seven thousand people, there wasn't usually a whole lot happening

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<v Speaker 1>on Sunday mornings, So when the entrance door swung open

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<v Speaker 1>with a bang and a mud covered man stepped up

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<v Speaker 1>to the window of the radio room kind of startled me.

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<v Speaker 1>He was soaked from head to toe, tracking mud all over.

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<v Speaker 1>The trustee polished floors and was staring at me with

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<v Speaker 1>an exaggerated look of desperation. This man needed help. Had

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<v Speaker 1>he been involved in an accident, been in a fight,

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<v Speaker 1>witness some type of tragedy. I had no clue, but

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that in the time it took me

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<v Speaker 1>to get out of my chair and hurry to the window,

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<v Speaker 1>he seemed to be hanging on by a thread. Sir,

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<v Speaker 1>you all right, I need a game warden. A game warden.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not what I was expecting to hear. He could

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<v Speaker 1>have said anything, but the last thing I expected. He

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<v Speaker 1>him to say, was I needed a game warden? I

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<v Speaker 1>asked him again, are you okay? He said, man, I'm tired.

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<v Speaker 1>We're all tired, but I need a game warden and

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<v Speaker 1>tell him to bring a cage. I never seen this

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<v Speaker 1>man before in my life, but I knew he was

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<v Speaker 1>sincere about what he was talking about. But it's six

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<v Speaker 1>am on a Sunday morning. I'm fixing. I had to

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<v Speaker 1>wake someone up, so I have to have a little

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<v Speaker 1>more information before I do. I said, you said that

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<v Speaker 1>you were all tired of somebody outside. Yes, my trapping partners. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>none of this was making a lot of sense, so

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<v Speaker 1>to answer the questions I was bound to get when

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<v Speaker 1>I woke the game boarding up, so I told the

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<v Speaker 1>man I needed to go with him outside, me the

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<v Speaker 1>folks that they were there with him, and get a

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<v Speaker 1>little more information about what was going on. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>sure a game board is what this guy needed. I

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<v Speaker 1>was thinking a bath and a psychiatrist would be more

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<v Speaker 1>help to him. Anyway. I followed him outside and there

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<v Speaker 1>stood his two accomplices, both disheveled, muddy, soaking, wet, and bleeding.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they weren't oozing blood, but they were covered from

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<v Speaker 1>head to toe with pretty significant cuts and scratches in

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<v Speaker 1>their All their clothes, and I mean all of their

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<v Speaker 1>clothes look like they'd been in a fight with a

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<v Speaker 1>weed eater and lost. One man was wearing the remnants

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<v Speaker 1>of a pair of rubber boots, the tops of which

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<v Speaker 1>had been shredded. The only thing that appeared to be

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<v Speaker 1>holding on his feet was a round of duct tape

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<v Speaker 1>that he wrapped around each shin. These guys look like

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<v Speaker 1>they've been eaten by a kyoti and crapped off a cliff.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever had happened was serious, and these boys were traumatized

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<v Speaker 1>from it. Okay, man, now what's going on? Why do

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<v Speaker 1>you need a game warden? The man with the taped

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<v Speaker 1>on rubber boots spoke up, We need one to give

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<v Speaker 1>us a tag for this otter. I looked around. What otter?

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<v Speaker 1>The one in this wooden box in the back of

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<v Speaker 1>the truck. He motioned toward the back of his truck,

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<v Speaker 1>and I walked over to see a plywood box about

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<v Speaker 1>three foot square, had a hinge lid on the top,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was secured with a hasp and a padlock.

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<v Speaker 1>You got an otter in there barely? Okay, Well, why

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<v Speaker 1>do you need a We need him to pay us

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<v Speaker 1>our hundred dollars for an otter. Yes, this otter wanted.

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<v Speaker 1>My feeble attempt at humor was lost on these guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was funny. They did not. Why is

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<v Speaker 1>a game warden going to give you one hundred dollars?

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<v Speaker 1>He told me. The game and Fish is trading Missouri

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<v Speaker 1>otters for turkeys. For every live otter we bring in

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<v Speaker 1>and turn over to the game and Fish Arkansas gets

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<v Speaker 1>a turkey and we get one hundred dollars. Well, how'd

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<v Speaker 1>y'all catch him? We trapped him? How'd you get him

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<v Speaker 1>in the box? Fellas that I'm not really sure. It

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<v Speaker 1>seemed to go on forever. There was a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of sadness in his voice. Well, tell me about it.

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<v Speaker 1>We had him on a catch pole and took the

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<v Speaker 1>trap off his foot, and everything was going fine up

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<v Speaker 1>to that point. The cable was running around his chest,

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<v Speaker 1>right behind his front legs, and I had it set

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<v Speaker 1>where just hold him and not squeeze him. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to hurt him. The plan was to take the

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<v Speaker 1>trap off his foot, pick him up, and drop him

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<v Speaker 1>in the hole in the box and hit the tension

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<v Speaker 1>release on the catchpole and removed the cable. Well that's

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<v Speaker 1>not what happened, no, sir, not even close. The second

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<v Speaker 1>that foothole trap come off, he went berserk. You ain't

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<v Speaker 1>never seen nothing like it, he told me. He bit

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<v Speaker 1>the catch pole in half quicker than anything he'd ever seen.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, it was like I had Bruce Lee on

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<v Speaker 1>the leash and he was beating us all up with

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<v Speaker 1>a pair of nunchoes. It's the biggest otter I've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 1>He gnawed, and he called Lloyd's boots off so fast

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<v Speaker 1>that when he jumped he can try to get away.

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<v Speaker 1>He stepped out of both of them. Lloyd told his

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<v Speaker 1>boots back to the truck in his hands. The next

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<v Speaker 1>forty five minutes were painful. I kept him in the

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<v Speaker 1>wire catch, but we couldn't get him in the box.

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<v Speaker 1>Should have made the hole bigger. I'd lift him off

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<v Speaker 1>the ground and try to lower him down in that hole,

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<v Speaker 1>but he just standing there over that whole, snarl in

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<v Speaker 1>the bite and trying to kill him. These boys were

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<v Speaker 1>in a bad way. I said, well, how'd you get

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<v Speaker 1>him in there? He said, Lord pitched him one of

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<v Speaker 1>his boots, and as soon as he jumped on it.

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<v Speaker 1>He threw his coat on him, wrapped him up, and

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<v Speaker 1>stuck him down in there. I said, that's why Lord

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<v Speaker 1>ain't wearing a coat. Yep, the otter got it. I said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>at least you got your boot back, Lloyd. What's left

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<v Speaker 1>of it? He said, all right, I'm gonna call the

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<v Speaker 1>game and fish and they'll be sending someone out here

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<v Speaker 1>pretty quick. I bet is the otter injured anyway or anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>He looked healthy when we last saw him. Fair enough.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, he's a bigger hunh. He said, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest one you've ever seen. How big is he? Man

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<v Speaker 1>said he's pushing thirty pounds. Wow. Okay, well crack that,

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<v Speaker 1>open that lid and let's look at him. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to sing, fellas that do what I said, open the lid.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to see this thirty pound odd. Well. They

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<v Speaker 1>all looked at one another and back at me without

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<v Speaker 1>saying a word. Then he said, mister, I've always tried

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<v Speaker 1>to do right by the law, but listen to me

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<v Speaker 1>when I say this. I ain't opening that box up

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<v Speaker 1>for you or nobody else. If my grandma walked up

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<v Speaker 1>here right now, that's been dead over twenty years and say,

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<v Speaker 1>crack that lid open. I want to look at him.

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<v Speaker 1>She'd hand me one hundred dollars before I got the

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<v Speaker 1>key out of my pocket. And when you call the game, Horden,

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<v Speaker 1>don't worry about having him bring a cage. He can

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<v Speaker 1>have this one. And that's just how that happened. From

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<v Speaker 1>the sixth grade on and off through junior high. In

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<v Speaker 1>high school, I ran it trap line before school. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>That meant that while all the other kids were still

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<v Speaker 1>sacked out in the old bed, Old Briddley was walking

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<v Speaker 1>through the woods and creeks checking traps. I never had

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<v Speaker 1>out more than two dozen at a time, but checking

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<v Speaker 1>that many traps, resetting and running down coons that had

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<v Speaker 1>pulled my drags off, that took some time. And there

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<v Speaker 1>were several mornings that I was running across the field

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<v Speaker 1>with a coon or two to throw in the barn

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<v Speaker 1>and run and catch the bus before it took off.

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<v Speaker 1>I never missed it, but there were a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>close calls. I look back at that now and I think,

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<v Speaker 1>would I let my kids do that? Well, the answer

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<v Speaker 1>is yes, if I felt they were as competent at

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<v Speaker 1>it as I was. And that's the difference. I may

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<v Speaker 1>have been eleven or twelve when I started doing this

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<v Speaker 1>on my own, but I had several years experience following

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<v Speaker 1>my brother around and watching and helping him. There's so

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<v Speaker 1>many things to learn, and all of it I still

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<v Speaker 1>used today. Tim would have me looking at tracks and

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<v Speaker 1>how they came down a bank or a creek edge,

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<v Speaker 1>and tell me to look at it and see why

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<v Speaker 1>coon would walk that way. Why would he walk over

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<v Speaker 1>some things and around others. He never told me the

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<v Speaker 1>answers until I answered right. He always made me think

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<v Speaker 1>about it. I got pretty good at it, and after

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<v Speaker 1>a while I figured out that they usually just travel

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<v Speaker 1>the path of least resistance and that keeps them near

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<v Speaker 1>their food source and close to an escape route. By

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<v Speaker 1>paying attention and asking questions, I learned a lot about

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<v Speaker 1>how coons get around in the world, just out there

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<v Speaker 1>doing their thing, and that eventually led me to try

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<v Speaker 1>and fox and Bobcat. I never really got good at those.

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<v Speaker 1>Him was a whole lot better at it than I am.

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<v Speaker 1>As a matter of fact, I've only caught one bobcat

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<v Speaker 1>in my life, and that was four years ago. Beaver

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<v Speaker 1>and Otter was a whole other deal. And I never

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<v Speaker 1>targeted Otter specifically because at the time I was really

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<v Speaker 1>getting into trapping and getting good enough to start making

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<v Speaker 1>a little money at it. The fur market went billy up.

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<v Speaker 1>Only reason anyone was trapping during that time was either

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<v Speaker 1>because they'd done it forever and didn't want to quit,

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<v Speaker 1>or they were doing nuisance trapping for landowners and timber companies.

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<v Speaker 1>Tim even contracted for a while doing some nuisance trapping

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<v Speaker 1>for a timber management company. And while he was doing that,

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<v Speaker 1>I went to work for Georgia Pacific in the forestry

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<v Speaker 1>department as a timber spotter. Now, if you don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what that is, allow me to elaborate. Georgia Pacific owned

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of acres of timberland in South Arkansas, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was my job, along with several other crews, to select

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<v Speaker 1>cut tracks of land for the contracting laggers to come

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<v Speaker 1>in and harvest the timber. Now, this is when I

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<v Speaker 1>was working with mister Leon. I'm sure most of you

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<v Speaker 1>remember him. If you don't check out episode one twenty seven,

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<v Speaker 1>Know Your Trees. That's just one of a handful where

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<v Speaker 1>I've talked to about mister Lyon. But we would get

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<v Speaker 1>our orders from the forester who was over our district,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'd either be painting landlines or checking behind laggers

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure they were utilizing the resource, or spotting

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<v Speaker 1>new tracks to cut. We carried a tree marking spray

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<v Speaker 1>gun that would paint a stripe at eye level that

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<v Speaker 1>could be seen, and then another stripe on the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>where the stump would be to ensure the trees we

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<v Speaker 1>marked were the ones that were getting cut. But my favorite,

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite thing we did was beaver control. We had

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of different folks that GP contracted to trap

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<v Speaker 1>beavers and I'd go with them sometime checking traps and

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<v Speaker 1>getting the beavers out of there. But the best part

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<v Speaker 1>was when we scheduled beaver down blowing days. Everyone knows

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<v Speaker 1>that beaver's dam upstreams and this causes the water to

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<v Speaker 1>back up the stream, flood out into the woods, and

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<v Speaker 1>eventually kill the timber, either by flooding or the beavers

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<v Speaker 1>gnawing them down to using the damn. They're amazing creatures

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<v Speaker 1>and I love them, but they're a costly lot when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to growing timber to maturity, and that was

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<v Speaker 1>the business we were in. So if we found a

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<v Speaker 1>beaver pond we'd walk it out until we found where

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<v Speaker 1>the dam was located, mark it on a map, and

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<v Speaker 1>when the contractor showed up, we'd put in explosives and

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<v Speaker 1>get to work. Times were different, remember, and if you

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<v Speaker 1>had a current driver's license and a legitimate reason to

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<v Speaker 1>have it, you could go to a construction supply business

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<v Speaker 1>and buy explosives. Beaver control was a legitimate reason. The

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<v Speaker 1>training was pretty intense. I remember the contractor telling me

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<v Speaker 1>cut the fuse long enough for you to light it

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<v Speaker 1>and get to safety. Well, how long is that? I

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<v Speaker 1>asked him. He said, how fast are you? And that

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<v Speaker 1>was the end of the training. So while I hated

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<v Speaker 1>math in school, I was constantly doing it in my

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<v Speaker 1>head while we waited around beaver ponds and dug out

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<v Speaker 1>holes in the dam, the stuff full of explosives, and

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<v Speaker 1>planned our escape routes before the big boom. Cotton Mouths

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<v Speaker 1>were a constant reminder that there were more dangerous things

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<v Speaker 1>out there besides us and the explosives, believe it or not,

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<v Speaker 1>And those jokers were always where I wanted to be.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to poke my hand to dig out a

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<v Speaker 1>spot to put some of the tovex. Tovex is the

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<v Speaker 1>explosive that we were using. It was just another thing

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<v Speaker 1>to have to keep up with. It was in the

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<v Speaker 1>spring of the year and the rain had flooded out

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<v Speaker 1>a huge creek bottom that we'd planned the log that summer,

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<v Speaker 1>so in order to do that we had to find

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<v Speaker 1>the dam. It took us a couple of days of

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<v Speaker 1>walking and wading and hunting it up, but we eventually

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<v Speaker 1>found it. One of them. Anyway, turned out there were

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<v Speaker 1>a series of dams along this creek that they had

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<v Speaker 1>worked on for years. It was an absolute marvel of

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<v Speaker 1>ingenuity and engineering. The structures that they build. They looked

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<v Speaker 1>so happenstanced, but they are anything but accidental. Every little twig,

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<v Speaker 1>every little limb, every load of mud is specific to

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<v Speaker 1>that portion of the dam and its purpose, and we

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<v Speaker 1>were there to blow it up. The largest of the

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<v Speaker 1>dams was about six feet high on the downstream side

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<v Speaker 1>and nearly one hundred yards long. It was massive. The

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<v Speaker 1>water had backed up and flooded what we estimated to

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<v Speaker 1>be about thirty acres of timber. The timber was showing

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<v Speaker 1>signs of an extreme stress, and if we were going

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<v Speaker 1>to salvage any of it before it died and righted

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<v Speaker 1>away that beaver dam had to go. Now, looking at

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<v Speaker 1>a topo map and knowing the country and how the

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<v Speaker 1>woods drained in that area, we knew there would be

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<v Speaker 1>no ill effects downstream by turning all that water loose.

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<v Speaker 1>There were slews and creeks and boughs that all led

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<v Speaker 1>to the river like a highway system. But how much

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<v Speaker 1>water are we talking about. Well, in a one acre

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<v Speaker 1>pond that's four feet deep, you're looking at over six

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty one thousand gallons. Now, y'all feel free

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<v Speaker 1>to check my mouth. If it's wrong, don't send me

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<v Speaker 1>you hate mail, Copernicus take it up with the nerds

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<v Speaker 1>at Google. So you get the picture that we're dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with a lot of water, a lot of water. We

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<v Speaker 1>walked out in the middle of the dam on the

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<v Speaker 1>downstream side with a grubbing hole in a sack full

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<v Speaker 1>of explosives. We rigged three sets of four sticks of tovax,

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<v Speaker 1>placed them out in a twenty yard chain, and connected

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<v Speaker 1>them all with a debt cord so they would all

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<v Speaker 1>detonate at the same time. We put out plenty of fuse.

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<v Speaker 1>He let me light it, and when that fuse ignited,

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<v Speaker 1>I checked my watch, and we left there like we

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<v Speaker 1>were late for work, giggling like a couple of kids

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<v Speaker 1>with anticipation that what was about to happen. We'd already

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<v Speaker 1>picked out our spot, two big pennoak trees that stood

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<v Speaker 1>side by side that would have had us about seventy

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<v Speaker 1>five yards away from the blast zone and at angle

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<v Speaker 1>where we could watch the show in relative safety. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to know how to make time stand still, estimate

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<v Speaker 1>the length of time it takes for a burning fuse

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<v Speaker 1>to set off an explosion. We waited and waited and waited,

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<v Speaker 1>and nothing. I looked at my watch. Surely had been

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<v Speaker 1>a minute. By now, fifteen seconds had gone by, and

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<v Speaker 1>what seemed like forever would only be an additional fifteen seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>I was staring intently at that smoke drifting from the

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<v Speaker 1>burning fuse. The contract was smoking a cigarette, staring in

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<v Speaker 1>the other direction, like he was waiting on a school bus.

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<v Speaker 1>Did it go out? He looked at me and said,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to go check it? No, sir, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>He looked back down through the bottles and took another

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<v Speaker 1>big drag off his cigarette. Finally, he looked over me

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<v Speaker 1>and said, fire in the hole. As non shalocked, as

0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:17.280
<v Speaker 1>he would say, past the biscuits. I poked my fingers

0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:19.359
<v Speaker 1>in my ears, and I peeked out around that big,

0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:22.680
<v Speaker 1>massive tree, just in time to see a tranquil spring

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<v Speaker 1>morning turn into arm again. Mud sticks and water were

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<v Speaker 1>raining down all around us, and the sound of the

0:18:34.920 --> 0:18:37.720
<v Speaker 1>water rushing through that fifteen yard gap in the dam

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<v Speaker 1>was louder than the explosion. Fish were pouring through the

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<v Speaker 1>opening like crazy. I wish that brought a dip net.

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<v Speaker 1>It took a while for that thing to drain, several hours.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, we'd blown the dam at about ten am,

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<v Speaker 1>and at three in the afternoon we decided the creek

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<v Speaker 1>was safe enough to wear across. Now, why would we

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<v Speaker 1>be waiting across the creek Because the spot we picked

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<v Speaker 1>a hide from the explosion was on the wrong side.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why. Oh well, live and learn. Thank y'all for

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<v Speaker 1>listening and for helping us spread the word about our show.

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<v Speaker 1>If you haven't and you know someone that might enjoy,

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<v Speaker 1>send it to him. Remember which side of the creek

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<v Speaker 1>you're own. And until next time, this is Brent Reeves

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<v Speaker 1>signing off. Y'all, be careful