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Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants. Hunt's Giants, My Giants, bubble,

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Speaker 1: give me some job. Part of the Giants Podcast Network.

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Speaker 2: Let's welcome to another edition of the Giants Little Podcast.

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Speaker 2: John Smelk showing O'Har with you are usual Tuesday Fair.

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Speaker 2: It's all brought to you by citizens the official bank

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Speaker 2: of the New York Giants. Sean. I'm not sure Giant

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Speaker 2: fans want to hear more about the game against the Jets,

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Speaker 2: but we're gonna give them a little bit before we

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Speaker 2: start looking ahead here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm all Happy Halloween, everybody.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Happy Halloween.

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Speaker 1: Trick or treat, Yes, smell my feet, give me something

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Speaker 1: good to eat. Isn't that what like all the kids said?

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Speaker 2: Sure then yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what you had to say to get candy.

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Speaker 1: Now kids these days just knock on the door and

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Speaker 1: just go like this.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, yes, Like my favorite ones are like the

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Speaker 2: older kids and like junior high that like show up

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Speaker 2: and they we're on like a baseball cat right, And

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Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, come on, really, yeah, some effort into it.

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Speaker 1: I don't let I don't give them candy?

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Speaker 2: Good for you?

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Speaker 1: Say, what's your costume and they're like, oh, I don't

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Speaker 1: have one. I'm like, well, then you don't get any candy.

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Speaker 1: That's the gig.

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Speaker 2: See.

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Speaker 1: Now you show up with a costume, you get candy.

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Speaker 2: You show up with nothing, you as show O'Hara. I

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Speaker 2: feel like you can lay the law down a little

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Speaker 2: bit as a normal person. I feel like, then you

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Speaker 2: risk getting the trick on your house. Right Well, yeah,

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Speaker 2: which is which is not great?

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Speaker 1: The eggs, so you do it with a baseball had

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Speaker 1: not mess. Don't mess with that house.

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Speaker 2: So not only do you say no, you also scare

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Speaker 2: them into running away.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's just a deterrence. Really share it.

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Speaker 2: Well, both defenses on Sunday Sean had pretty good deterns.

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Speaker 2: Either teams could score. There was more punts than points.

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Speaker 2: There were just as many punts as first downs. More

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Speaker 2: punts in a game since two thousand and three. I

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Speaker 2: could keep going down the stellar list, I will choose

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Speaker 2: not to. And it was just a very defensive oriented

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Speaker 2: game that it looked like the Giants had come up

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Speaker 2: with that complimentary football formula to win until the final

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Speaker 2: twenty seven seconds.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is one of those rare games. Usually there's

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Speaker 1: a loss and then it's like, hey, you know what,

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Speaker 1: you went back and looked at the film, It's like, man,

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Speaker 1: we did some good things, and like there's some things

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Speaker 1: to build up this game. The more you looked at it,

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Speaker 1: the uglier it got. And I think when you couple

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Speaker 1: all of those statues just hit on there. I mean

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Speaker 1: the game conditions. It was an absolute downpour at ten am.

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Speaker 1: I was walking ten thirty walking into the stadium. Everybody

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Speaker 1: was soaked. So for the players that went out pregame,

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Speaker 1: like you had to change your cleats, Like your cleats

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Speaker 1: were soaked before the game even started.

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Speaker 2: You couldn't wear receivers no, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean Sansky back there with nothing on his arms. And

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Speaker 1: you know that's one of the coaching points, is like

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Speaker 1: on a rainy day like that, it's like, hey, if

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Speaker 1: you are gonna wear sleeves, you got to make sure

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Speaker 1: it's not something that's going to become even slippery or

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Speaker 1: if you're a ball career. So it was, you know,

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Speaker 1: mother nature turned this into a sloppy game out out

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Speaker 1: the out of the gates. But the Giants just did

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Speaker 1: everything humanly possible to give this game away.

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Speaker 2: In the final thirty seconds at overtime.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's just it was really I don't

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Speaker 1: think I've ever seen a game just kind of upside

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Speaker 1: down like that as quickly as it did for the Giants,

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Speaker 1: and they had fought so hard, and there's so many

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Speaker 1: reasons why they should have won the game, and then

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Speaker 1: it just goes to show that all it takes is one, two,

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Speaker 1: sometimes just three plays.

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Speaker 2: When you play whose games that's lovating changes.

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Speaker 1: You know. Look, I think the thing that's lost in

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Speaker 1: all this because we look at all the bad stuff

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Speaker 1: and the native stuff, what's the defensive played lights out?

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Speaker 1: I mean, Kevon Thibodeaux, he had the splash plays, the

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Speaker 1: sacks they held, Breisee Hall to twelve carries and seventeen yards.

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Speaker 1: This guy was averaging six and a half yards of

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Speaker 1: pass and that was a checkdown, like Zach was just

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Speaker 1: And yeah, Bobby o'cari came Michael and just kind of

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Speaker 2: Then missed the tackle down old.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was that was really their one successful

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Speaker 2: End of until Gary Rolson made some splash ones. And

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Speaker 2: by the way, you mentioned Thibodau with the splash plays,

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Speaker 2: and we talked about this other guy last week, and

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Speaker 2: we could talk about Thibodeau. Two. How good was Dexter

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Speaker 2: Lawrence in this game? Holy cow? You know why? Watching

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Speaker 2: the game, I had a sense that he did pretty well.

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Speaker 2: Then when I rewatched it, oh my gosh, Like.

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Speaker 1: From that snap, he was like in the backfield field.

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Speaker 2: He would get on the center's shoulder, he'd do his

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Speaker 2: little rip move and he was in the backfield. The look.

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Speaker 2: Zach Wilson did not play well in the game, but

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Speaker 2: he also had Dexter Lawrence basically running straight at him

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Speaker 2: the entire game. Dexter was even better than he was

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Speaker 1: Literally, the Jets o linemen were tapping out because they

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Speaker 1: did they couldn't block them, they didn't want to block them.

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Speaker 2: And three different guys that tries at him, and they

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Speaker 2: kept single teaming him. Sewan, Yeah, like why weren't they

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Speaker 2: don't I don't, I don't understand.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that they were trying to give other

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Speaker 1: people help. But yeah, Dexter had a phenomenal game, and

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Speaker 1: not just in the you know, rushing in the past,

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Speaker 1: run game too. You know, they bottled everybody up. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think when you just kind of look at like

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Speaker 1: the going into that game, it was gonna be a

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Speaker 1: and I think it just it's a shame that it

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Speaker 1: didn't come to fruition at the end as good of

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Speaker 1: a game as Kevon Thibodeau had. Like, there's a couple

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Speaker 1: of things you really look at. Obviously, the chip shot

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Speaker 1: field goal by that changes everything because if he makes

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Speaker 1: that field goal, they're up six. Now they just have

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Speaker 1: to go for his total.

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Speaker 2: And thirty five yard field goals have to be made,

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Speaker 2: and it's a.

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl kicker, and granted that, yep, now there's that play.

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Speaker 1: And then the other.

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Speaker 2: By the way, if he did kick that ball straight

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Speaker 2: might be the way it was Holy titled chumped over

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Speaker 1: There are some people that were wondering if that actually

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Speaker 2: Speaking of which which which no, because if you look

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Speaker 2: at the tape, you know was staring straight down.

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Speaker 1: He's looking at it. But you know who knows, man,

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Speaker 1: And by the way, being your perfer.

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Speaker 2: Did you when I rewatch it. Did you notice Leonard

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Speaker 2: Williams got a piece of Zirlon's game winning kick.

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Speaker 1: I did not see that. Yes, so he tipped it.

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Speaker 2: He tipped it. It was going straight up and Leonard

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Speaker 2: Williams absolutely got it. And we will talk about the

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Speaker 2: and that just snuck it anyway, didn't mean drup I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: The other thing that I think because he had such

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Speaker 1: a good game and being off sides on that play

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Speaker 1: at the end of regulation that was at the clock.

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Speaker 1: And look, they get that big pass play down the

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Speaker 1: that clock is rolling. They never have enough time to

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Speaker 1: That clock is going to be double zeros by the

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Speaker 1: time Zach tries to spike it. And it's because of

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Speaker 1: that off side penalty that they stopped the clock leave

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Speaker 1: its penalty withinside of two minutes, and that right there

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Speaker 1: was a huge factor in them having enough time to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, basis, you're ready for a change.

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Speaker 3: Pay Day comes early with citizens, So go to that retreat.

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Speaker 3: Knew you moves to the country. Now you're raising goats

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Speaker 3: and launching a lifestyle brand. Are you ready for all

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Speaker 3: that life breaks?

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Speaker 2: The clock stopped with seventeen seconds because of the off

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Speaker 2: sides minimum eight seconds, they get a get up there

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Speaker 2: and spike it on a twenty nine yard game maybe ten. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so you're looking at eight or nine seconds on the clock.

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Speaker 1: Well, we know from our Buffalo game that you need

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Speaker 1: at least fifteen seconds because we had fourteen seconds against

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Speaker 1: Buffalo and we couldn't run a play.

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Speaker 2: You would have to get it out of bounds. There's

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Speaker 2: no way you can make a play in the field

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Speaker 2: to play there, and they were at the forty six,

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Speaker 2: so that would have been a sixty four yarder for

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Speaker 2: zero line. And look, we know he's got a leg,

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Speaker 2: but in that condition, with with the field and the weather, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that that's not going in there. And then, by the way,

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Speaker 2: you also don't have to give up a twenty nine

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Speaker 2: And then in overtime you don't need to get beat

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Speaker 2: off the line of Skippers by Malik Taylor and committed

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Speaker 1: But if Dorri Jackson actually talked about it in the

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Speaker 1: that's the right call because you don't want to give

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Speaker 1: up the sideline and have them stop the clock. So

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Speaker 1: if they want to throw the ball down the middle

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Speaker 1: of field, fine, the clock's gonna run out. But that

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Speaker 1: kid Thibodeau being outside change that because what you're playing

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Speaker 1: defensively is there's not enough time. If we tackle them

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Speaker 1: in the middle of the field, they're never gonna have

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Speaker 1: enough time to run another player and get a field

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Speaker 1: goal range. So and by the way, and it was

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Speaker 1: the right call, and it just you know, it didn't

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Speaker 2: On the last player of regulation. If you look at

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Speaker 2: the all twenty two, Lizard has a nice little yeah

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Speaker 2: doing Dorry Jackson to open himself up in the middle

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Speaker 2: of the field too. Look, that's not going to gold

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Speaker 2: in that spot. No, it's a vent move. And I'm

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Speaker 2: not saying it should have been called it. You know

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Speaker 2: that that's the NFL. And you know, do you think

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Speaker 2: the Giants gonna maybe piled on top of Lazard a

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Speaker 2: little bit after he got knocked down for a second,

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure if for it what helped. Maybe all

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Speaker 2: they needed was one more second to go off the clock,

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Speaker 2: right so, and then, by the way, I'll go back

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Speaker 2: even further. How about when the Giants look like they

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Speaker 2: got the final stop of the game to clinch it,

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Speaker 2: they had the Jets go four and out on that

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Speaker 2: first down run Seko and Barkley's got all types of space,

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Speaker 2: and Brian Dable talked about it on his media call

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Speaker 2: on Monday. He goes down, he lost his footing and

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Speaker 2: it looked like he could have ran for a first down,

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Speaker 2: and then the Giants run out the clock and the

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Speaker 2: Jets never get the ball back to begin with.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that first down definitely looked like he left some

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Speaker 2: real quick. Would you have thought about deferring in overtime

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Speaker 1: It hadn't happened. Yeah, and you know, getting being in

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you're Seattle, you look at it or

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Speaker 2: Because he was unblocked.

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Speaker 1: There's no threat, you know, for Jared Golf to sorry.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, Jimmy Garoppolo, Oh no, no, you're right, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: There was no threat for Golf to run, and so

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Speaker 1: there was nothing for Max Crosby to respect and to

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Speaker 2: Max Crosby is a maniac by the way.

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Speaker 1: He's mad Max for a reason. That guy plays full

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Speaker 1: plans for that. You know, you want a guy like that,

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Speaker 1: you run, toss crack right out of the gate first

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Speaker 1: got to see the whole field. They're coming after me.

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Speaker 1: Attack him, attack him with a trap, kick him, crack

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Speaker 1: But ultimately you're gonna have to block him. So you know,

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Speaker 1: who knows, Maybe Andrew Thomas can find a way back.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure Darren Waller would love to play against his

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Speaker 1: so Obviously getting healthy at those positions would help. But

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Speaker 1: I think when you look at the Giants right now

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Speaker 1: I have zero concerns about this defense. I think that

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Speaker 1: they're gonna bottle up Josh Jacobs. Jimmy Garoppolo has struggled

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Speaker 2: Him a couple of times.

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Speaker 1: They've got they've got a turnover in fifteen straight games.

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Speaker 1: It's the longest streak in the NFL. So they've been

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Speaker 1: very charitable with the football. I think for the Giants,

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Speaker 1: like you can't beat yourself, like in this situation, like

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Speaker 1: you go on the road. This is a game that

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Speaker 1: they should be able to win. You've got to take

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Speaker 1: other team implode, which the Raiders have done a lot of.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you, good stuff, Shorr Johnny. Giants five brought

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Speaker 2: to you by Citizens, the official Bank of the Giants.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy your Halloween, everybody, Enjoy your candy. Don't get too

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Speaker 2: hupped up on sugar. I'm talking to you Clara Schmelk,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to deal with you tonight. I'm sure

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Speaker 2: Sean's would say with his kids, but it should be fun. Everybody,

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Speaker 2: stay safe out there, have some fun, and we'll talk

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Speaker 2: to you next time on The Giants Total podcast