1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:01,280 Speaker 1: Taking a Walk. 2 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:05,439 Speaker 2: I'm buzznight and welcome to the Taking a Walk Podcast, 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 2: where we stroll down memory lane with the voices that 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 2: shaped our lives. Sometimes that's a musician, and sometimes, because 5 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 2: of my past, that's a radio person. As a lover 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 2: of radio, this gentleman was definitely part of my past. 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 2: Today I'm taking a walk. A man whose voice didn't 8 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 2: just fill the airwaves, it became the soundtrack of an 9 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 2: entire generation from WABC to WCBSFM in New York City. 10 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 2: He's been the cousin we all wish we had, spinning 11 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 2: records and stories. With that unmistakable enthusiasm, he introduced us 12 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 2: to the Beatles, danced through the British Invasion, and kept 13 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: rock and roll alive through every decade since. Coming up next, 14 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen, the one and only cousin Bruce Bruce 15 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 2: Marrow on the Taking a Walk Podcast. Taking a Walk, 16 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: Cousin Brucie, Welcome to Taking a Walk, sir. It's an 17 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: honor and thrill from me. 18 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind a personal walk right now. It's getting 19 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 3: a little cold out. 20 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 2: Well, thank you, thank you for being on so so 21 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 2: if if you could take a walk with somebody, who 22 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 2: would you take a walk with? Use your imagination, there's 23 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 2: no right or wrong answer, and go wild. 24 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 3: My very first one came right to my mind. My 25 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 3: very first one my wife, my Jody. Jody is my 26 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 3: dearest and my best friend. Now, if I had to 27 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:45,559 Speaker 3: go another step, i'd probably pick who would I pick? 28 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 3: Let's see, that's a very interesting question. I think. I 29 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 3: think Paul McCartney would be one of them, and Leslie 30 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 3: Gore would be another, and Ronnie Spector. You know, it 31 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 3: was funny as you gave that question a very question. 32 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 3: No one's ever asked me that before, uh, you start 33 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 3: thinking about people that you're lost. Obviously, if I had 34 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 3: a name an historic person, I probably want to talk 35 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 3: to Benjamin Franklin. I'd want to know about that kite 36 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 3: with the key on it, if that's true. You know, 37 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 3: But that's a very interstinct question. That's something I think. 38 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 3: It's like the genie in the bottle. You have three 39 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 3: wishes you used too, I'd be very careful with that. 40 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: Well, the answers go all over the place, for sure. 41 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 2: So that's what's wonderful about. 42 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,959 Speaker 3: Why number one, without any any question. 43 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 2: I'll make sure that she knows that you said that. 44 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 2: So you can stay out of hot water with Jody. 45 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 3: I can use a lubble. 46 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 2: Well, tell me how you became cousin. Tell me the 47 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 2: origin of cousin. 48 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 3: It's kind of a fun story that I love to tell. 49 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 3: It actually happened in the Brooklyn Battery tuttle right. My name, 50 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,239 Speaker 3: of course is of Course, but it's Bruce Morrel. Most 51 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 3: people think my last name is Brucey, you know, with 52 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 3: cousin Brucy. I was in the Brooklyn Battery tunnel going home. 53 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 3: We lived in Brooklyn at that time. In the middle 54 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 3: of the tunnel, I saw this was very strange, but 55 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 3: this is how things happen in life. I saw a 56 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 3: flower growing out, a little daisy or something, yellow flower 57 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 3: growing out of the wall of the Brooklyn Battery Tunnel. 58 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 3: I didn't think it was any significance. And then suddenly 59 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 3: I heard a chime and it said, cousin, cousin, Brucey, 60 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 3: drive carefully, cousin cousin. And I didn't think anything of 61 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 3: I just thought, you know, it's just some silly daydream 62 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 3: or something. And I drove home, and that evening, in 63 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 3: my dreams, I had this voice come back again cousin Brucey. Well, 64 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 3: needless to say. The next morning and I got on 65 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 3: the phone with the program director. I said, you know, 66 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 3: from how on I got a little message. I think 67 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 3: I want to be called cousin Brucey. And he said 68 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 3: to me, and I almost quote, are you out of 69 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 3: your dash dash mind? That is theest thing I've ever 70 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 3: heard my life, she said. Son. I was like, what, 71 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 3: I'm not twenty some odd years old, said son, this 72 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 3: is the big Apple. This is not cheese Quake or Morgantown, 73 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 3: West Virginia. This is New York City. That is the 74 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 3: stupidest thing I've ever heard. I said, you know, mister Leeds, 75 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 3: we all love our cousins. We all want to go 76 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 3: to our cousins house and be with our aunts and uncle. 77 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 3: They give us the best treats and best food and toys. 78 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 3: Let me try it. So he gave some thought from 79 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 3: the phone, and he said, oh, come in and see me. 80 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 3: I went and see him to day and he said, 81 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 3: some you can try it tonight, but don't overdo it, 82 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 3: because if you overdo it and you get in trouble 83 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 3: for that corn, I'm going to fire you. And I 84 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 3: was scared if I don't know what, fireman. I thought 85 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 3: maybe you would hit me or something. And uh, well, 86 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 3: that night, you know you don't tell a kid from 87 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 3: Brooklyn to try something. If I decided I'm going to 88 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 3: do it, I'm doing full speed ahead right put up 89 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 3: the power. That night I went on. I guess every 90 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 3: other word was cousin. I mean I cousined them here, 91 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 3: I cousined them there. I shoved that word and everywhere. Well, 92 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 3: the next morning, buzz here we go. I get a 93 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 3: call at six a m. And he said to me, 94 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 3: the program director, Bruce, get your blah blah blah in. 95 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 3: I don't even say those words though today it's very 96 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 3: very mild. Get in here right now. I said them. Well, 97 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 3: and I got scared. I called my father because I 98 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 3: thought I was going to go and I'm gonna get 99 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 3: fired and he's gonna smack me or something hit me. 100 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 3: I didn't know. My dad went in with me, and 101 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 3: I'll try to make this little shorter now. My dad 102 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 3: went in and said, mister Lee's what's the problem. He says, 103 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 3: your son. I told him last night not to overdo it, 104 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 3: and he overdid it. I'm letting I'm going to fire him. 105 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 3: So my father said, well, why, he says, I want 106 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 3: you to see something. He opens the door to his 107 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 3: desk and he pulls out hundreds of Western Union teleguins, 108 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 3: remember Western Union of almost many recurses before the Internet, 109 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 3: and he throws these yellow pieces of paper off the desk. 110 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 3: So my father, being a very astute street guy from 111 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 3: the East New York, said, well, seems to me that's 112 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 3: a pretty good response. Why would you want to fire him? 113 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 3: I'd hire him. So she said, I'm firing, but I'm 114 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 3: putting him under a ten year contract. The response was overwhelming. 115 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 3: People liked it. You know, people want familiarity. I have 116 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 3: a was, I have a saying, an expression. Familiarity breeds content, 117 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 3: and it really does. I found that out. And people 118 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 3: want to hear somebody that's familiar with or a comfortable 119 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 3: with times of dures, times of national disaster, international disaster, 120 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 3: personal problems very important. They want somebody to feel comfortable with. 121 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 3: And they say, you know, this is family. So my 122 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 3: whole adage, my whole belief and what I do is 123 00:06:55,279 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 3: personal family audience. Technology comes out after that, and I 124 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 3: come after that somewhere like that. So I learned how 125 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 3: to become a cousin. I learned how to become very 126 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 3: very personal with people. So when I go on the air, 127 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 3: cousin buds like, I'm talking to you one on one 128 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 3: right now. There might be a lot of people. There 129 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 3: are a lot of people listening all over the world 130 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 3: now because technology has changed everything. I am talking to 131 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 3: one person. I learned that a long time ago. I 132 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 3: might be talking to two or three million, but I'm 133 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 3: talking to one person. And that's how my whole belief, 134 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 3: my whole follow through what my career is going, and 135 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 3: to this day, that's what I practice. 136 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 2: That's an important lesson for those listening, who might be podcasters, 137 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 2: might be musicians, might be radio people. You just touched 138 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 2: on a very important part of communicating and engaging with 139 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 2: an audience, which is not an easy thing, as you know, 140 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 2: no it is not. 141 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 3: It's very difficult. That's one of the big lessons to learn, 142 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,239 Speaker 3: which I learned when I first thought of my care 143 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 3: in Bermuda. I learned that, you know, the microphone is 144 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 3: an instrument, but what's out there is human flesh and blood, 145 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 3: and you have to be aware of the audience. You know, 146 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 3: I get on the air, I'm interviewed many times during 147 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 3: the week, and a lot of the people that interview 148 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 3: me are reading notes, and I'm right away, I'm thinking, no, 149 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 3: this is not good, and it's not you and I 150 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 3: are talking one on one, and it's just very natural. 151 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 3: When you start reading notes, you're not listening. You're reading 152 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 3: your next question. What am I going to ask them next? Well? 153 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 3: What am I? And you're not listening to what the 154 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 3: person you're interviewing is saying. And when I'm on the 155 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 3: air with my cousins who call me in for Elvis 156 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 3: or call me in for Bruno Mars or whatever they're 157 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 3: calling me in for, they're asking questions and they're feeling, 158 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 3: they're feeling something, they want a response. And if you 159 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 3: don't listen, you start getting involved with other things. You're 160 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 3: not doing your job. 161 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 2: Amen into that. So you brought up Bermuda, and I 162 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 2: know Bermuda played a central role in your beginning certainly, 163 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 2: and it wasn't necessarily pretty that whole story. 164 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 3: I know I went through some heca I don't know 165 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 3: if you've ever seen my first book, my sort of 166 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 3: a semi autobiography. I say suddenly because I had a 167 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 3: writer with me, Lore Baudo, and we wrote about my 168 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 3: early days. I wish I released it now, was published 169 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 3: too fast. I got over there. I didn't know I was, 170 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 3: you know, a young kid. I don't know who I was. 171 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 3: I was very young, never was away from home before 172 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 3: it was, and I was very inexperienced, inexperienced on the air, 173 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 3: but very different than anybody else. So I got on 174 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 3: and he used to call me the Hammer in Bermuda, 175 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 3: and I spent a year there. They called me the 176 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 3: hammer because I talked like the music, and I helped 177 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 3: bring rock and roll music to that once very quiet island. 178 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 3: I sort of disturbed the flora in the form over 179 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 3: there about music. 180 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: No. 181 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 3: I talked very fast and got involved with the local listeners, 182 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 3: and I got very involved. I've had two involved at 183 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 3: other time. That beautiful island was a little different. They 184 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 3: didn't they didn't recognize certain ethnicities. And I did a 185 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 3: show at a church, black church that burned down. I 186 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 3: wanted to raise some money for them, and by that 187 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 3: time I had some Bruce Power wasn't Bruce yet Bruce Power, 188 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 3: and I raised some money for them, and then I 189 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 3: was invited to leave the island very quickly because they 190 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 3: weren't happy with what I did. Well, I left, and 191 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 3: that day at the airport, a lot of people came 192 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 3: down from that church to see me off. I learned 193 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 3: a good lesson in life, right, always do what you 194 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 3: believe in, no matter what the consequences were. And I 195 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 3: think that experience really awakened me. You know, growing up 196 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 3: in New York were very how do I say it, protected, 197 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 3: We have a suit of armor around us. We don't 198 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 3: realize what's happening in the real world. Well, I found 199 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 3: out very quickly. I found out quickly. I found out 200 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 3: about my religion. I found out about the block situation 201 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 3: that I already read about in the newspapers, and real 202 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 3: isn't really wasn't real, so Bermido. Besides teaching me radio 203 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 3: what you did and television those days, very early television, 204 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 3: I learned this great lesson do what thou hat'st to 205 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 3: do and don't let anybody stop you. 206 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 2: That's tremendous. I recently recorded a segment for one of 207 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 2: our podcasts with Darryl run dmc McDaniels, who is a 208 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 2: big fan of yours and certainly a big fan as 209 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 2: he was growing up of WABC. He talks about that often. 210 00:11:55,840 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 2: So I have a question from Daryl for you, He said, 211 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 2: Ask Brucey, what was the best thing about him having 212 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 2: access to all those artists and bands and being able 213 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 2: to be the one to share the music with everybody 214 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 2: on a daily basis. 215 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 3: Well, i'd right away soon as you would. I'm listening 216 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 3: to what you're saying, and I think the word eclecticism 217 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 3: came into my mind right, being eclectic allowed by the suits, 218 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 3: the guys upstairs, the bean counters, you know. And I'm 219 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 3: not being too nasty with him because I was one too. 220 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 3: I owned any radio stations that allowed me freedom of choice, 221 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 3: freedom to select, freedom to produce and perform the way 222 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 3: I see fit, doing what I want to do, and 223 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 3: saying what I want to do. Now, Buzz, this was 224 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 3: not always the case. We went through, as you remember, 225 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 3: a pretty tough time in our business called the Payelo scandals. Now, 226 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 3: during that terrible time when we were accused and at 227 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 3: least of taking commercial bribery, which probably every industry in 228 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 3: the world has some sort of commercial bribery to this day, 229 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 3: we were accused of doing that. So the executives took 230 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 3: the freedoms away. We had music meetings and the music 231 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 3: meetings were farce anyhow, because they picked all the records 232 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 3: for us to vote on them. So that was ridiculous. 233 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 3: So I lost my time of freedom for a while, 234 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 3: and that not only affected my audience, it did because 235 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 3: I wasn't allowed to discover in those days new bands, 236 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 3: because today is you know, I rely upon music of 237 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 3: the fifties, sixties, and a touch of the seventies, like 238 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 3: I say in the air, and that's what I love. 239 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 3: I love that music because I believe those three decades 240 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 3: are the best decades of the development of contemporary music, 241 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 3: rock and roll and to this day. So we lost 242 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 3: that freedom for a while. It was a very tough time. 243 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 3: And of course the politicians loved it. They got headlines 244 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 3: and one was easier than going after people that are 245 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 3: on the air, that are in the public light. The 246 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 3: newspapers loved it. That sold a lot of newspapers, that 247 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 3: got them good advertising. So it was an unfair time 248 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 3: because they went after us unfairly. Was it justified? Oh yeah, 249 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 3: I mean I was a kid, now, I was very lucky. 250 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 3: Cousin buzz. I was very lucky because I was too 251 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 3: young to really get involved. Might I have gotten involved 252 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 3: in payola. Very possibly everybody was. It was one of 253 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 3: those things. I saw crates of booze, I saw television sets, 254 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 3: I saw a car delivered to somebody, and I have 255 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 3: all these memories and I have names, and I saw 256 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 3: this happening, but I didn't understand that I was too 257 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 3: young to get involved. And also I was brought up 258 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 3: not to cheat. And I really believe that in those days. Now, 259 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 3: a little bit helps. It's like a little salt and 260 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 3: pepper once in a while, you know, look the other way, 261 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 3: but you know nothing that can hurt anybody. I took 262 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 3: paola once. I'm going to admit it to you. I 263 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 3: took two cherry pies. There was a record promoter whose 264 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 3: mother was a baker, and he said, gee, i'd love 265 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 3: you to play my record. Here. My mother sent you 266 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 3: two cherry pies. I want to I know, I said, 267 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 3: I love cherry pies. It's one of my favorites. I 268 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 3: took the cherry pies that I play the record. Oh yeah, hey, 269 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 3: he gave me cherry pies. I didn't think of cherryola 270 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 3: or anything like that. So that was my one guilty moment, 271 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 3: and I still remember that. But the thing is, I 272 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 3: remember all these things, and as far as I can say, 273 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 3: if I had the power, I would never let it 274 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 3: out happen again. I think music, as in any industry, 275 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 3: it has to be deserved for going on the air 276 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 3: or being produced, and you have to vet something, you 277 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 3: have to look at something very carefully. To day was 278 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 3: take what I do extremely seriously. When I go on 279 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 3: the air. Oh, I'm silly once in a while, I 280 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 3: have a good time. I never get blue. I get 281 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 3: a little lauding once in a while. But the main 282 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 3: thing is I am aware of my audience and I 283 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 3: know what they need. I feel them because when I 284 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 3: talk on the air, I'm talking to you, I know, 285 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 3: cousin Bu's and that's what it is. I'm talking to 286 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 3: an individual. You know. There was an old story years ago. 287 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 3: I remember some professor or somebody was asked, how do 288 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 3: you not get nervous on the in front of an audience? 289 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 3: How do you get used to that? He said to them, 290 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 3: concentrate on one person in the audience. Make believe they're naked. Right. 291 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 3: It worked. So I don't think my wand is naked. 292 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 3: I'm sure they're woring underware. Let's to be but very 293 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 3: funny adage, and if you think about it, it works. 294 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 3: You know, concentrate on the audience, concentrate on a person. 295 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more that Taking a whalle podcast. 296 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Taking a Walk podcast. 297 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 2: You were at the epicenter when the Beatles landed in America. 298 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 2: What was it like being in the room when that happened? 299 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 2: Literally introducing rock and roll history, music history as it unfolded. 300 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 3: You know, it was a very wonderful time at a 301 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 3: very lucky time for the American music industry. In those days, 302 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 3: the American music industry was getting home a little tired, 303 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 3: a little tired. We're doing the same thing. You know, 304 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 3: there's an adage, I guess in corporate America, if it 305 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 3: ain't broked, don't fixed it. If they ain't broke, don't 306 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 3: fix it. They never fixed it. So you know, we're 307 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 3: playing the same stuff and over and over. You gets 308 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 3: them once in a while as a bright light of sunshine, 309 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 3: but generally it was getting tired. And here overseas a 310 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 3: couple of the four guys are causing and causing wildness 311 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,959 Speaker 3: all everywhere. And I started getting new records. I think 312 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 3: it was on swam Records, Swan Records and VJ and 313 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 3: it was a group called the Beatles, and then I 314 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 3: started getting other British groups, so a little by the 315 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 3: but the Beatles took the spotlight, and in our music meetings, 316 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 3: I remember it was that how can these outdare they, 317 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 3: these British upstarts take our Chuck Berry and our Jerry 318 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 3: day Lewis and our Everly Brothers and our four Seasons 319 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 3: had emulate them. Well, we didn't realize till a little 320 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 3: while later that they were saving the music industry, our 321 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 3: music industry and enhancing theirs. Well, we started playing it, 322 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 3: and of course, the the reaction was immediately. I'll give 323 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 3: you a cute story. One of your stories is kind 324 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 3: of cute. I'll show you the reaction of an audience 325 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 3: to the Beatles when they first started coming over a 326 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 3: pan and am flight one oh one. Remember when McCartney 327 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 3: looked down to the street and said, Charlton, I don't 328 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 3: see any diamonds in the streets, like that kind of thing, 329 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 3: because they were coming over and he you know, I 330 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 3: think they're referring to the sidewalks. The cement that shined 331 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 3: a little bit because I had silicone in it. I 332 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 3: mean he looked for diamonds. They were coming over and 333 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 3: I used to get phone calls. We started playing their 334 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 3: music for the early music on one Old You and 335 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,360 Speaker 3: Please Please Me and things like that, and it hit 336 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 3: right away. People started listening to us. Here's here's the guy. 337 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 3: Two weeks before the arrival of the Beatles, this guy 338 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 3: would call me. His name was John, Hey, Brucie. Hey, 339 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 3: how you doing man? I'm John from the Bronx. I'll 340 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 3: live on the Grand Concourse. When you play a record 341 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 3: for mcgoyle, my name is Susie. Sweet Susie. Play something 342 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 3: by Jerry Lee Lewis. Well you thanks, man, you're you're 343 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 3: the ginshiest guy. All right, that's two weeks, two weeks 344 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 3: past buzz, two weeks. The Beatles are all over the place. 345 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,239 Speaker 3: You couldn't go anywhere without seeing a picture. Sure if 346 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 3: John Paul Georgia Ringo, that same man calls me, that 347 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 3: same young man calls me John, and this is me 348 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 3: on the phone with John, And this is what he 349 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 3: sounds like. Hello, this is cousin Brucey. He says, hello, 350 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,959 Speaker 3: This is so John of the Bronxshire, of the Grand 351 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 3: Concourse Shire. Would you play a record for me and 352 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 3: me bird. Her name is a lady Sue's Sunshine, and 353 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 3: I'd like to hear a record by the Beatles. Thank 354 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 3: you very much, your lordship, talk top h Now you're laughing, 355 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 3: but this is very close to what happened. Everybody decided 356 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 3: they were anglophiles. Everybody adopted the British accent, although if 357 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 3: you listen to the Beatles, the early Beatle records, you 358 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 3: don't hear an accent. Very strange. When music comes around, 359 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 3: you can lose an excit. And it happened. But everybody 360 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 3: wanted to wear their hair the way they're wearing it. 361 00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 3: They dressed like them, they spoke like them, they them, 362 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 3: and of course they sounded like them. And the Beatles 363 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 3: were here and it was the start of this revolution. 364 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 3: It was going to change the whole world, and it 365 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 3: was changing it for positive meanings. Because what we were 366 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 3: in deep trouble. We had assassinations our president Martin Luther King. 367 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 3: Racial violence was much worse than it is now. It's 368 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 3: not over, but you know, we're still. It was much 369 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 3: much better. Politically, we were starting to realize what's going on, 370 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 3: and the youth movement was really starting the youth movement 371 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 3: realized they had such great power, and I think we 372 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 3: owe that really to the Enlightenment and not only the Beatles, 373 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 3: but that whole we call British invasion. And it was 374 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,360 Speaker 3: a good time. It was a wonderful time and affected 375 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 3: what I was playing. 376 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 2: It was an amazing time. I was listening to you 377 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 2: during that period and just fascinated by the magic of WABC, 378 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 2: the lightning in a bottle that wa BC had. I 379 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 2: remember it was an event that you all created and 380 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 2: covered because it was such a moment of importance. What 381 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 2: made in your opinion, that era so magical? And it 382 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 2: was really communal experience listening, wouldn't you say? 383 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 3: Yes? Absolutely? And I think the word communal is excellent 384 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 3: because I use the word well, getting together, community, communal, community, 385 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 3: I use that all the time. I believe my audience 386 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 3: is a community. I am part of that community. So 387 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 3: that's when it really started. We became a community. We 388 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 3: had something to latch our thinking on, and listening to 389 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 3: the Beatles gave us that, and then of course the 390 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 3: Stones came in Hermit's Hermit's and Dave clock five and 391 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 3: the kinkson on and on and on, which I still 392 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 3: played at this very day, you know, was at one 393 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 3: time I forgot whish I should remember the date, but 394 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 3: I do not. The Beatles had they garnered the top 395 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 3: five songs in a roll and billboard one, two, three, 396 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 3: four or five in a row, and everything else went down. 397 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 3: Everything else went down. They established a huge beachfront, and 398 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 3: then everybody followed them. It was a very essential time 399 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 3: in my development, in the audience's development. The audience now 400 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 3: had something to listen to and to emulate and to 401 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 3: enjoy very much. He gave us the time to smile again. 402 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 3: We weren't smiling too much in those days. It was 403 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 3: a very serious time, very serious time, and here was 404 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 3: a glimmer, a glimmer of hope. And it worked. It's 405 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 3: still working. We're still getting we're still getting benefits from it. 406 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 2: Who we certainly are besides listening to you and that 407 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 2: entire great radio station. During that period, I would get 408 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 2: to listen to this gentleman by the name of Scott Muni, 409 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 2: and then I would get the chance to work with 410 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 2: Scott Muni as a work part time at WAWFM when 411 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 2: he had gone over there. Talk about your memories of 412 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 2: Scott Muni. 413 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 3: Well, We worked together for many years on WABC, and 414 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 3: he was a good looking guy, a young guy. I 415 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 3: remember the women loved him right and he had that 416 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 3: gravelly voice. I guess most of the panels of the 417 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 3: womenfl was very sexy. It was a very nice guy 418 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 3: who took his music very seriously. And then eventually little 419 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 3: things change on our business and he moved to another 420 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 3: radio station which was a little more I guess on 421 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 3: the adult side, we were Top forty. WNEW sort of 422 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 3: borrowed many things. Think everybody borrowed from Top forty. After 423 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 3: a while, the whole FM syndrome, which was where FM 424 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 3: there Top forty, the kids stations that didn't last too 425 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 3: long because they realized ordered to get a listenership and 426 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 3: therefore get sponsorship, they had to borrow a little bit 427 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 3: from somebody that had something that showed success, and it 428 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 3: was called Top forty radio. So all these FM stations, 429 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 3: these snutty, those in the air FFF stations, I start 430 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 3: a little by little putting some Top forty gizmos and 431 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 3: gadgets in what they were doing, and it worked. There 432 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 3: was a nice, nice meeting of melding of what we 433 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 3: were all doing. And that's where radio was going. But 434 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 3: it was a good time. Scary time for me because 435 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 3: I saw that AM radio was going to be at 436 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 3: that time in trouble that there was this new molon 437 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 3: for bread in town called FM, which was not new, 438 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 3: which has roots back to the thirties. And he could 439 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 3: look history wise and see when FM was developed. It 440 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 3: just stopped because of World War II. The military took 441 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 3: over those frequencies. But it was a good thing that happened. 442 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 3: Was moving on, moving on and connecting and combining this thing, 443 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 3: making this new community. And here we are today and 444 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 3: I'm still doing it. A gentleman, giant named John Casta 445 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 3: Mattitis his kind of interesting story. When I was on 446 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 3: Serious Act, I was on Serious for many, many years, 447 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 3: enjoying it. It was this new medium, satellite radio, and I 448 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 3: was reaching all over the country and it was kind 449 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 3: of fun and I had my freedom once again. And 450 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,199 Speaker 3: every Saturday I was on the air this time, I 451 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 3: think four or five times a week. And every Saturday, 452 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 3: this gentleman would call me from his car with his wife. 453 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,959 Speaker 3: He said his name was John, his wife was Margo. 454 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 3: I didn't know who they were, and they would request songs, 455 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 3: you know, very honestly, they were really nice, nice to 456 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 3: be I played the songs for him. Oh maybe a 457 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 3: year passes by and somebody gets on the phone and 458 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 3: he says, by the way, you know that man that 459 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 3: calls you almost every Saturday, John something or I said yeah, 460 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 3: he said, well, he just bought WABC. I said what, Yeah, 461 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 3: this is what happened. I said, what do you mean 462 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 3: he bought WABS? How do you buy? How does a 463 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 3: man buy WABC? Which was like, you know, cornerstone, the 464 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:21,199 Speaker 3: historic block of broadcasting. And he voted sure enough, And 465 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 3: within a couple of days I get a call from 466 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 3: John Costomer Tini's. He wants to talk to me, and 467 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 3: little being a long story short, I'm still with him, 468 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 3: and he just offered me my well, I just signed 469 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 3: another contract. He offered me a contract till I was 470 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 3: one hundred and forty. I love it. I love it, 471 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 3: I explained to it. I don't think that's gonna happen. 472 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 3: You're gonna be have him wheeling me in on a 473 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 3: wheelbarrow with some dust. I said, I think let's go 474 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 3: a few years at a time. 475 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 2: I love it so Cousin Bruci, the last question for you, 476 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 2: you clearly love what you do. To this day, you 477 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 2: have the passion and an enthusiasm of somebody who is 478 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 2: a teenager starting out. Tell me what is the secret 479 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 2: sauce to that passion and enthusiasm. 480 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 3: I love what I do. It's like you do. I 481 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 3: look forward to getting it on my microphone, which is 482 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 3: sitting right here at my desk. I can't wait to 483 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 3: talk to my cousins. And I know it sounds corty, 484 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 3: my cousin, but it's not. I have an innate love 485 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 3: for the music. This is the music I grew up with. 486 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 3: The music is my family. I'm very careful what I select, 487 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 3: and I'm very careful what my audience selects. I we 488 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 3: get a lot of phone calls, and we're now reaching 489 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 3: the globe, you know, as you know, we're streaming and 490 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 3: I'm a morning show in Tokyo. I got all cons 491 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 3: a letter I got Tokyo, I mean amazing, and they're 492 00:28:55,160 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 3: all requesting our genre of music. Huh. So this love continues, 493 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 3: and as I get older, i'd fall more in love 494 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 3: my passion. But passion grows and it's fun, but it's 495 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 3: a light passion. It's nice, it's friendly, and I get 496 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 3: on my microphone, which is almost my personal telephone, and 497 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 3: I talk to my friend. Friend is friends out there, 498 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 3: but I talk to my friend, so that continues. I'm 499 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 3: very lucky I have that in me. I have that 500 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,719 Speaker 3: in me. It's in my soul and my heart, and 501 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,719 Speaker 3: I just go on with this romance and don't never 502 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 3: stop until I stop. And if I stop, I'm going 503 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 3: to have a microphone with me because I won't stop. 504 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 2: Cousin Brucie, I love you for everything that you continue 505 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 2: to give us, everything that you've given me as one 506 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 2: of your money year listeners. I'm fortunate that I took 507 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 2: that passion of listening to you and turned it into 508 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 2: a career, and I'm grateful for everything that you continue 509 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 2: to me. 510 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 3: Cousin Well, Cousin buzz, I am thrilled there are people 511 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 3: like you that love radio the way I do. And 512 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 3: because without guys like you, this would not be possible. 513 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 3: It's possible because the love is out there. I can 514 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 3: feel this community. Thank you so much for all those 515 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 3: wonderful questions and I love visiting with you. 516 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to this episode of the Taking a 517 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: Walk Podcast. Share this and other episodes with your friends. 518 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: And follow us so you never miss an episode. Taking 519 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: a Walk is available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 520 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: and wherever you get your podcasts.