WEBVTT - "FEELING THORNY!" w/ Lauren Lapkus 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:04.760 You guys. You guys, Hello, my bunnies, It's me Art 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:09.399 Marine and guess what we are doing an episode of 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:13.680 Feeling Thorny every Friday leading up to the publication of 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:16.400 my book, which is just six and a half weeks away. 0:00:16.400 --> 0:00:20.840 It comes out Tuesday, September twenty nine. And we got 0:00:20.840 --> 0:00:23.000 such a great response. I know you guys really enjoyed 0:00:23.320 --> 0:00:27.040 learning about Rob Benedict, and I have to be honest 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:31.160 with you, I'm so grateful that we recorded these before 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:35.159 the whole pandemic happened. We recorded this one in December. Um, 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:37.200 Lauren Lobkis and I had just gone to New York 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:38.919 together and I was asking her. I was like, I 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:41.559 want to do something just sort of leading up to 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:43.800 the publication of my book because I've had such a 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:47.720 good time. As I mentioned last time, the publisher requested 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:52.160 and a chapter about how I got from a small 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:55.600 farm town with three thousand people in Rhode Island to 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:58.520 getting to be on a on a TV show by 0:00:58.640 --> 0:01:01.680 my early twenties. And and um, I remember when I 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:04.280 was writing it, it felt incredibly painful to write. I 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:05.959 felt like, who do you think you are? You're not 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:09.039 Meryl Streep, like blah blah blah. So what. But I 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:11.720 realized if I was a young version of me, if 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:14.480 I was like eight year old Arden, I would I 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:16.759 would want to know how somebody did that. And then 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:19.240 I realized, like, oh, so many of my friends also 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:22.200 grew up in small towns or did not grow up 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:24.160 in Los Angeles or New York. They did not grow 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:27.520 up with connections. And it made me really curious about 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:30.440 how people got started, what their families were like, and 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:34.760 what made them tick. And so we recorded this in December, Anna, 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:39.240 you were there. Lauren Lobkis, who is the star of 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:42.360 The Wrong Missy, which if you guys have not seen that, 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:45.399 it is so far. How good is Lauren in the 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:49.680 Wrong Missy? She's great. I that movie really made me laugh. 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:52.520 I mean, honestly so as a Netflix movie. It's it 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:56.200 came out during the pandemic. She plays the Wrong Missy 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:59.280 and she it is such a star turn. I would 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:02.800 say there's at least a dozen hard belly laughs, like 0:02:02.960 --> 0:02:06.960 it's she's such a star. And you know, there's so 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:08.560 many other things that we talked about that you know 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:12.000 her from, but that's the most recent thing. Um, And 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:15.400 she's just a really nice person and I just found her. 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:18.080 She's such a hard worker and she's such a good friend. 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:21.839 And I'm so excited for you guys to just get 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:23.840 to know a lot of the people from our podcast, 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:26.680 a lot of my friends a little bit better and 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:29.799 just to sort of these are a little more intimate, 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:33.040 a little more personal, and I hope you guys enjoy 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:38.799 our second installment of Feeling Thorny with the lovely Laurens. 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:42.080 Welcome to Will You Accept This Rose, a production of 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:48.560 I Heart Radio. You know what time it is. It's 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:52.959 time for hard to get a little close and a 0:02:53.000 --> 0:03:00.440 little thorny. Well, it's gonna go one on one, gonna 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:05.280 be hot energy phone convos are gonna be super real. 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:08.359 She wants to get with you and all the fields. 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:19.799 Feeling thorny, Yeah, feeling thorny. Whoa healing thy feeling thorny. 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:34.520 We're notting movie, Yeah, healing thorny. Oh yeah, this is exciting. 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:40.360 This is our first sidecar. It's our sidecar true, Yes, 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:44.960 where you reach up this road. And guess what, guys, 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:49.040 we have a new off sheet of the podcast for everybody, 0:03:49.960 --> 0:04:05.280 for everybody. Yeah, yes, we accept this role. Oh my gosh, Hello, 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:08.520 welcome to Will You Accept This Rose? My name is 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:12.080 Arta Marine, and I am so excited to introduce a 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:17.200 special side car offshoot of our podcast that I actually 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:21.240 came up with with our first guest. Um. One of 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:23.760 the things I came up with this podcast, I think 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:26.200 three or four years ago, thinking it would just be 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:28.680 a fun thing to do to talk about The Bachelor 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:31.839 with other funny people, break it down, you know, just 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:34.359 just I thought it would just mostly be about the 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:37.480 television show. And one of the things I found is 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:42.400 that I am naturally a slightly socially anxious person and 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:47.280 it has expanded my life so much. I've gotten so 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:50.800 many new friends because of this podcast, and I feel 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:52.440 like I've been through so much in my life that 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:55.279 as you guys have gotten to know me and you've 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:57.960 emailed in and I've gotten to know you, I feel 0:04:57.960 --> 0:05:00.560 like it's truly the most important social action that I 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:04.159 have in my life today. And with that, as my 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:08.520 life is expanded. I actually sold a book that you 0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:13.160 can pre order now on Amazon. Apparently it's all about 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:14.440 the pre orders if you want to get on the 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:16.440 New York Times bestseller Listen. I'm not gonna act like 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:19.520 I don't. It's called Little Miss Little Compton and it's 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:22.720 about it's funny stories about me growing up in Hollywood 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:25.760 and stuff like that. But um, this is a podcast 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:27.560 where I'm going to interview people in the sort of 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:31.800 a more one on one intimate way and um, leading 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:34.120 up to the launch of my book this fall. So 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:36.799 I could not be more excited we came up with this. 0:05:36.800 --> 0:05:42.599 This sidecar is called feeling a thorny. My my tongue 0:05:42.640 --> 0:05:45.040 said thorny when I did it, and that's gonna be 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:48.000 every time. So you've heard a laugh. My first guest 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:51.160 with me. You might know her from Orange Is a 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:55.120 New Black. You might know her from Crashing. You might 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:59.080 know her from the Between Two Ferns movie or one 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:01.279 of her many pods asked. You might know her from 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:05.320 her new Netflix movie The Wrong Missy. Ladies and gentlemen, 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:11.320 Lauren Love Laura, thank you so much for coming on 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:13.600 the pod. IM so honored, and thank you for being 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:15.680 my first guest. And I'm so excited. It's gonna be 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:18.640 so great. We came up with this in New York City. 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:20.640 We were on a trip. We were on a little 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:24.120 trip just for fun, which is so rare. I don't 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:27.560 think I had actually taken a real vacation. Well that's 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:29.800 not true. The first real vacation I took was this 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:35.800 summer to Rhode Island with you and your husband and Debbie, 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:40.080 Ryan and Brian Sofie, and that was a real joy. 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:42.360 And then we're like, oh my god, let's get really 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:45.400 crazy and let's go to New York for a week. 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:47.279 It was so great. It was like one of the 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:49.560 best trips ever, and I think it might be the 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:54.039 best friend trip I've ever had. It was so and 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:56.119 I was like, it was easy. It was so easy, 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:58.280 and we were on the same we had the same 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:01.120 desires throughout the day. Now I'm hungry, let's go it 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:03.320 down and let's cancel that. Let's do that. It was 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:05.839 very easy, and I never felt like you were letting 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:08.760 the other person down by wanting to change it. You know, 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:11.120 some people can be like I thought we were going 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:13.560 to do that. It's like, I don't care. I could 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:16.160 not be happier. One of my favorite things in the 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:18.640 world is to make a plan and then I have 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:23.280 somebody canceled like an hour before, and people keep apologizing, 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:25.600 but they don't realize that the person inside of me 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:28.040 that is a little socially anxious that I am so 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:30.160 proud of myself that I made the plan and I 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:32.080 could not be happier that I don't have to do it. 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:33.960 I did it recently when I was going to go 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:36.760 to dinner with a friend that I really like and 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:38.440 it's like always a fun time, but I was like, 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:40.800 I just don't feel like going out tonight, and it 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:43.640 was like four hours before dinner and I was just, yes, 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:47.160 I don't have to yes see each other again. I'm 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:48.640 just going to cancel. And then I did feel a 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:50.640 little bad because I have I don't know what her 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:53.520 stances on that kind of thing, but I felt so 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:56.200 relieved for myself. I was like, like, oh wow, why 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:58.920 do I ever make any plans? This is I should 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:01.120 just never make plan. No. I have been in a 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:04.280 real Boo Radley mode, right, I have been real into 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:07.720 our cat mode lately. But um, I do know I 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:10.240 need I forced myself well. Actually talked about that a 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:12.240 lot in my book. I do talk a lot about 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:18.000 so um, just a little preview. I I feel my 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:21.440 parents married on a dare. They weren't dating, and they 0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:25.320 moved from man dared them. They dared each other. I 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:28.600 know it's they were co workers and they got two 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:32.600 weeks of vacation a year, and then if you went 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:34.800 on a honeymoon, you got like an extra two weeks. 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:36.120 So they were like trying to come up and think 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:39.360 way to beat the man. And then so my dad 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:41.240 was like, I think they were like having cocktails or 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:43.800 in New York City, you know, it's like New Year's Eve. 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:48.600 And my dad was like, if we get married, we'll 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:50.520 go down to South America for a month, Like I'll 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:52.360 pay for the vacation. We can come back and we 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:55.480 can get it annulled. And then my mom called the 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:58.400 next day and she upped the auntie and she was like, 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:02.199 I'll do it, but I'm getting it annulled. And so 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:04.360 she borrowed her best It's nice. So that's how the 0:09:04.360 --> 0:09:07.720 book starts. And she borrowed her best friend Arden's wedding dress. 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:11.240 They never told my grandparents. And then they actually got married. 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:14.320 So then they moved this tiny town called Little Compton, 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:17.360 Rhode Island. It has like three thousand people. You've been there, 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:19.520 I have I feel very special because I guess not 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:22.600 that many people have. No. It's the tinest town ever. 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:25.960 And uh but I I feel like it was a 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:28.040 really fun house. But it was there's a side of 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:30.680 me that because it was sort of a lawless way 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:33.320 that they got married. There was we you know, my 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:35.360 brother and I are both insomniacs. It was sort of 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:39.000 this lawless house and so we're trying to figure out 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:43.959 how normal people exist. I I put I make planned 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:46.400 just because I think I'm like other people do, but 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:48.480 it's not my natural inday. Yeah, you know, I think 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:50.240 you're right. I think I relate to that too, that 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:53.840 like I feel like I'm supposed to because I was like, oh, 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:56.560 when you're like an adult, you go to drinks with 0:09:56.600 --> 0:10:00.240 people and have dinner with people, and I think, I 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:03.320 I don't care about that. And I think if I 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:05.719 think of having this realization right now where I'm I, oh, 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:09.440 I think I don't care, like I think I every 0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:12.280 time I'm getting close to a dinner plan, except for 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:15.400 I will say we have a dinner plan that is 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:17.760 like every month with me and Brian Sofie, and we 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:19.839 have the best time. But that's when I never that's 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:22.560 our allum, that's our illuminati. But even when I only 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:24.400 make plans of people I like, So it's not even 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:27.320 like I don't like anyones. It's that I just don't 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:31.520 want to. I would rather literally just both sit on 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:34.080 the couch and do nothing, or like go shopping or 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:37.640 do something. Can I tell you how much like I 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:40.199 have to say, this podcast has made me feel better 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:42.320 in general because I feel like I can chat with 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:44.320 people and relate and have people to my house and 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:46.640 stuff like that. But it also makes me feel better 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:48.040 to hear because I think of you as a very 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:52.079 well adjusted person, and you here you appear like you 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:56.959 would want It makes me feel better. Do you force yourself? Oh? Yeah, 0:10:57.040 --> 0:10:59.400 well I think I fill my calendar because that's how 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:02.160 I end up doing things, Like if I'm like, oh, well, 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:04.200 I make a dinner plan, but I'll make it like 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:06.959 three weeks away, and then I don't think about that later, 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:09.400 and then three weeks always comes and all the things 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:11.760 that you've said you were going to do there, and 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:13.880 then I'm like, this week is really full because I 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:15.720 just like jam packed it full of everything I have 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:18.959 to do. So I'm also trying to be better about 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:21.800 not doing that and just saying even if I like, 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:23.679 let's say someone asked me to a podcast or something, 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:25.640 but it's like I'm doing something later that day, I'll 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:27.640 say that day doesn't work, I'll pick a different day 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:29.040 because I'm like, then I'm gonna be going from thing 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:30.840 to thing to thing the whole day and then I 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:32.319 have to go to dinner with somebody that I made 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:35.439 a plan with. And you know, also, I wanted to 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:37.360 be known if anyone ever wants to cancel on me, 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:39.440 you were more than oh my god, I'm jealous that 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:41.920 I'm jealous of the friend that you canceled on her. 0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:47.199 I know we're getting dinner in like a week now, 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:48.560 because then I was like, it would be, it would 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:50.440 be done. But then I'm like, I like her and 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:52.640 this is fine. So it's not really about checking it 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:56.400 off the list, about wanting to enjoy myself, so I 0:11:56.400 --> 0:11:58.240 should do it on a day where I feel like it. 0:11:58.760 --> 0:12:01.920 Um let me wre you girl. Okay, how did your 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:05.839 parents meet? They met? Um, they were neighbors in an 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:11.080 apartment building in Chicago. And there's a story with it 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:13.760 that basically my mom pretended to get locked out of 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:15.960 her apartment and that she had to climb through his 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:18.000 balcony or something to get to hers. But it was 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:21.880 it was not real, like she was pretending attention. Yeah, 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:25.280 and he just didn't care, Like he let her in 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:26.400 and like let her go do it, and like it 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:29.160 just didn't register as like anything. That's amazing. Yeah. I 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:31.000 don't really know what happened after that, like how they 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:33.319 started dating, but that was the first thing. My mom 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:35.560 noticed him and was like, oh, I like him. But 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:38.959 and you have a brother, Yeah? Is he older? Yeah, 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:42.920 he's three years older, so it's mine. And um, were 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:46.240 you were you popular in school? Like, how was middle 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:48.800 school for you? You've seen my middle school photo? Yeah, 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:51.080 I don't know. I should show you some of mine. 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:53.320 I don't know if I have any readily available. But 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:59.200 I was not popular, but I wasn't like a total 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:01.760 sad sack. I feel like I fell into a comfortable 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:04.000 range where like I could talk to popular kids and 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:05.880 sometimes I was friends with them, but not to the 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:08.040 point where I would go hang out with them like 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:11.360 after school, but in the moment, I could like talk 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:13.600 to them at lunch and sometimes sit with them. But 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:15.640 I had my group of friends as well, and so 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:19.840 we kind of were a middle group. Yeah. Yeah, were 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:21.959 you a class like were you sort of the entertainer 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:24.680 like people I hate the phrase class clients. I wasn't 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:26.840 a class clown, but I hate that to Really, it 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:29.440 was like I just talked, and so I felt free 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:31.840 to and confident to just talk whenever I wanted a class, 0:13:31.840 --> 0:13:33.680 and a lot of times it would be just something 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:36.720 funny that I wanted to say. Um, but it wasn't 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:39.240 usually to distract. It was mostly that I just thought 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:41.480 of something funny about what we were talking about or 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:43.720 something like. I just had like a sarcastic comment or 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:46.520 something for everything, and a lot of my teachers, um, 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:48.960 like I didn't. I never got in trouble for it. 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:51.200 They always seemed to like it, or at least be like, 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:56.760 it doesn't matter. First kiss who. I was a junior 0:13:56.760 --> 0:14:01.120 in high school, okay, and it got really built up 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:03.040 in my head for that reason because it was like 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:06.520 everyone it was me and another friend had not done it. 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:09.000 So we kind of were like looking to each other 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:12.440 like hell, oh my god, everybody in my class was boning. 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:15.200 Oh my god, I think they all were. Everybody. I 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:18.280 just was like just I wanted to, but I didn't 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:20.680 understand how you got there, and like it just was 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:23.360 such a far off idea. That's how I felt honestly 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:27.440 most of my life, Like I think now with Tinder 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:30.720 and stuff, like, it's so much easier. I know people 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:34.840 think that females like, oh you could. I really could 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:38.120 not in envision in scenario where I would be like 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:40.240 with my clothes off at the end of the night 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:44.800 with somebody, even like my twenties, like oh yeah, it's 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:46.160 hard to be, like, how do you get that? I 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:49.800 couldn't figure out how what would happen during the day 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:53.480 that would lead me to meeting somebody, meeting a person 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:56.600 and just hooking up with them. I don't figured out 0:14:56.600 --> 0:14:58.320 couldn't figure out how you would go on dates, like 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:00.400 I couldn't figure out how to get a boy friend. 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:05.880 I think I lack the necessary um trust in everyone 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:08.040 to be willing to just have a one night stand 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:12.080 with a stranger I've never met, Like God, But then 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:15.560 these people must be like thinking everyone is ultimately fine 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:17.040 or that nothing bad will happen to them, Like, I 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:19.640 don't know how you're getting yourself in that situation without 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:23.400 my My first impression has to be like incredible of 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:24.920 somebody if I'm going to talk to them for longer 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:28.600 than five minutes. Of someone, I'm just meeting I truly mean, 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:30.720 I mean, I know lots of people hook up all 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:33.280 the time, like and I would we probably alien And 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:37.040 I envy that I had such anxiety and fear of 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:40.880 diseases just for me too. I fear diseases more than 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:44.600 I was, Like I I was the makeup bandit for 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:46.720 a while, like in my twenties. But it was just 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:51.320 I was fully convinced there was there was no way 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:53.800 that I was not going to get some terrible disease. 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:56.800 Oh yeah, I mean I was. I wouldn't even kiss 0:15:56.840 --> 0:15:59.360 people if I didn't really like them, And then if 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:00.760 I really like to them and I kissed them, I 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:02.240 probably get over them right away. Like it was like 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:06.520 people would get so mad at me, and I have 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:08.640 to say, if if I wasn't me, I would and 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:10.800 I was on the receiving end, I would also think 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:13.400 you're a garbage person. Yeah, it's annoying. Okay, So who 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:16.320 was the first kiss? Junior high? Um? This guy that 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:19.200 I went to school with, um and he was we 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:22.040 were in the theater department together and he was a 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:24.520 senior and I was a junior and I still know him. 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:26.200 So it's like weird because I'm not going to name him, 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:28.360 but I didn't name him on another podcast, I think. 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:30.200 And then, um, everyone in my high school was like 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:36.480 texting me about it because it apparently somebody somebody spotted mine. 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:41.200 Mine was eighth grade. Oh that's good, that's like, that's 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:44.280 a good one. Ninth grade, ninth grade. I was late 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:48.400 ninth grade, ninth grade. But I was young from my class. 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:50.880 I was probably I was old. I was seventeen, God 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:53.840 bless you, that's how old I was when I lost 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:56.640 my virginity. And I was late. Wow. But I was 0:16:56.720 --> 0:16:58.480 also too young for my class. So it was like 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:01.440 right before high school graduation. And I figured in my 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:04.040 brain the side of me that was afraid of diseases. 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:06.199 That was like, I can do it with one of 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:07.920 these high school guys because I know where they've been 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:10.760 once I get out of here, the pools too. I 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:12.440 just got to get it done with one of these 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:16.800 dumb dumbs. And I did. Ye. Thank you so much. 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:19.080 Have you ever heard from that person again or seeing 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:21.840 them again. I liked him so much more than he 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:28.360 liked me, and um, and he it was terrible. He 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:31.800 slept with another girl the next day, like my friend. Yeah, 0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:34.720 And then at a reunion, He like tried to hit 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:38.400 on me, and I remember being so excited to kind 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:40.119 of be like, you know, we were supposed to go 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:42.639 on another date. I dated him for a while and 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:44.159 then we went on like he was supposed to go 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:45.520 on a date with me, and he didn't call me 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:47.439 in time. I was like, I'm unavailable anymore, and I 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:50.800 was like, yes, you know, just that sort of wonderful 0:17:51.000 --> 0:18:05.119 final revenge. Oh, bone zone, time for the bone zone. 0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:13.200 M So what one of the things I talked about 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:16.879 in the book I keep edging closer. Um, I feel 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:19.399 like some of this stuff growing up in my house 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:23.280 felt I mean, I guess I would imagine most people 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:26.000 feel like this. I mean, I think honestly like living 0:18:26.000 --> 0:18:29.040 life and adulthood is sort of like there's part of 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:30.800 it is people tell you things, and then part of 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:32.760 it is to choose your own adventure of like you 0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:35.320 have to figure it out on your own. But there 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:37.399 are so many things that I feel like I know 0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:41.119 now that I wish I knew it, like one or 0:18:41.160 --> 0:18:44.520 twenty two creatively, or like what if you could go 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:46.959 back in time and tell young Lauren Law because if 0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:48.919 you think, what would you tell her? Well, Yeah, I 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:50.240 do think you have such a good point that so 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:52.000 much of it is like you have to figure it 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:55.000 out yourself, just with life and with career stuff. I think, 0:18:55.240 --> 0:18:58.800 especially in entertainment industry, like nobody is explaining things to you, 0:18:59.359 --> 0:19:02.160 and there are so many mistakes you kind of have 0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:05.040 to make. I guess even if someone told you probably 0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:07.840 still make the same mistakes. So like, like I mean, 0:19:07.880 --> 0:19:10.439 I think with like auditioning or things like that, like 0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:12.840 where it's you have to Like when I think back 0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:15.240 to myself when I was first auditioning, I think I 0:19:15.280 --> 0:19:18.280 put so much pressure on myself and would freak out 0:19:18.320 --> 0:19:20.760 over like things that ultimately never got made. You know. 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:23.960 It's like the stakes were so low for the audition, 0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:26.199 especially the things I was getting auditions for when I 0:19:26.200 --> 0:19:28.840 was like especially in Chicago or new when I was 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:32.439 young and just starting. But I would tell myself not 0:19:32.520 --> 0:19:33.960 to worry about it so much and then it's not 0:19:33.960 --> 0:19:35.520 going to matter, and that it'll all be fine and 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:37.480 this is all experience and like every time you go 0:19:37.560 --> 0:19:39.680 you'll learn, you learn something about yourself and like how 0:19:39.720 --> 0:19:41.200 to handle it. But I don't think I could have 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:43.120 understood it because I had to go through all these 0:19:43.119 --> 0:19:46.000 awkward moments and just suck a bunch and then realized 0:19:46.040 --> 0:19:48.520 that that's what it was like. It takes a while 0:19:48.560 --> 0:19:52.600 to realize how many days of people they're auditioning, because 0:19:52.640 --> 0:19:55.600 you think it's just like you versus the late and 0:19:55.640 --> 0:19:57.879 you're like, no, they've been seeing people like all of March. 0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:00.520 You know, like you're one of fifty that I looked 0:20:00.520 --> 0:20:04.159 at and the competition is really against yourself. How do 0:20:04.160 --> 0:20:07.800 you prepare for an audition? UM, I will print out 0:20:07.800 --> 0:20:11.400 the sides, which is like the audition scene material and 0:20:11.560 --> 0:20:12.840 for people out there who don't know and like I 0:20:12.920 --> 0:20:16.080 might not explain it to you, what is that? Wait? 0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:18.720 What is that? I don't know what that is. I 0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:21.320 don't know that. I don't know what that is. How 0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:23.320 did I get into this building? I don't know what 0:20:23.520 --> 0:20:25.959 is happening. But I'll print it out and then like 0:20:26.440 --> 0:20:27.800