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Speaker 3: I was dropped as made of honor because of my looks.

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Speaker 4: You're just too hot.

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Speaker 3: Sophie and I, both twenty seven, have been close friends

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Speaker 3: since we were four. We are not the speak every

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Speaker 3: single day Laurel Susannah type friends, but I genuinely considered

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Speaker 3: her a sister and her parents like an aunt and uncle.

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Speaker 3: Our families are close. My whole family is invited to

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Speaker 3: her wedding, as is my boyfriend's family. My boyfriend is

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Speaker 3: Sophie's brother's best friend. That is how close we all are.

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Speaker 3: So I was not really surprised when she asked me

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Speaker 3: to be her maid of honor, and I think I

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Speaker 3: have been a good one. And by the way, this

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Speaker 5: I'm Dakota, I'm Carly, I'm keon, we are all here

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Speaker 5: to give good advice, goofly, but these goofy little meatballs

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Speaker 5: don't know the answers to every question in the history

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Speaker 5: of humanity.

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Speaker 6: You just referred to us as beatballs.

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Speaker 2: We only know what we would do, so let us

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Speaker 2: know what you would do. Are craving me in the comments?

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Speaker 3: Opie says, well, two weeks ago, Sophie, the other bridesmaids,

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Speaker 3: and I went to try on bridesmaid dresses. I thought

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Speaker 3: we all had a good time and that it was

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Speaker 3: a successful trip as we found dresses. But apparently not really,

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Speaker 3: because a couple of days later, Sophie asked to meet me.

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Speaker 3: She asked that I stepped down from being made of honor,

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Speaker 3: she said, seeing me in the bridesmaid dress made or

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Speaker 3: realized she just did not want me stealing focus from her.

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Speaker 3: Called that she would not feel good standing up there,

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Speaker 3: knowing everyone was probably comparing us.

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Speaker 4: Boom called it, you're too hot. You're too hot for

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Speaker 4: the spotlight, too hot to be bridesmaid.

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Speaker 2: You're too hot, and I don't like it. Gotta be ugy.

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Speaker 2: Let's put you in a garbage bell. But then everybody

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Speaker 2: who look at you, cause it'd be like, why that

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Speaker 6: All right, Dion, Fine, I'm more of a run around

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Speaker 6: sue kind of guy.

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Speaker 2: But I was so hurt.

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Speaker 3: I admit I cried right there in the coffee shop,

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Speaker 3: partly because I never wanted her to think that anyone

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Speaker 3: most beautiful bride on her wedding day, and partly because

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Speaker 3: I was just so excited to be up there with her,

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Speaker 3: and she was kicking me out over something that I

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Speaker 3: I sent fine, it was her wedding. If she didn't

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Speaker 3: want me up there, I wouldn't be. But I was

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Speaker 3: not going to come to the wedding as a guest

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Speaker 3: when clearly my presence was going to be a burden

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Speaker 3: to her. Sophie said that was not what she meant,

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Speaker 3: and I asked her to explain. Well, she doesn't really

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Speaker 2: At this point.

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Speaker 3: You should understand there's a difference between being at someone's

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Speaker 3: her up on the you know altar. Ye, it's gonna

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Speaker 2: That should be very self explanatory.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like, couldn't we could we just have kept

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's its own issue, right, Like, that's its own thing.

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Speaker 3: She desperately wanted me there, so she was going to

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Speaker 3: put aside her feelings, but she just wanted pictures at

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Speaker 3: She also wanted me to tell everyone I dropped out

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Speaker 3: I was a good friend and did nothing wrong, and

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Speaker 3: she was being a brat, but that was her prerogative

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Speaker 3: that if I did not want to go, I shouldn't,

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Speaker 3: But my mom and stepdad think I would be the

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Speaker 3: a hole if I didn't go. My mom said, it

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Speaker 3: has also been obvious that Sophie was insecure, but I

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Speaker 3: She said, I have had the spotlight our whole lives. Again,

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Speaker 3: I don't think this is true. Sophie is far more

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Speaker 3: even though it's pretty sad. Maybe she does deserve to

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Speaker 4: Well, she definitely does deserve to be the princess on

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Speaker 4: her wedding day. That's like the whole thing.

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Speaker 3: She says, I will regret missing the wedding over this.

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Speaker 3: My stepdad says I should go because she is my

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Speaker 3: you have to let people be irrational.

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Speaker 2: I really do not know. Now. Sophie and I have

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Speaker 2: so many mutual friends.

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Speaker 3: There's not a lot of people I can ask about

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Speaker 3: this without it getting back to her.

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Speaker 2: So here I am. I feel like maybe I am being.

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Speaker 3: A knucklehead having this blow up, But I do not

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Speaker 3: and clearly she has been sitting on these feelings forever.

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Speaker 3: Not to mention, I already paid for her whole bachelorette

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Speaker 3: of her wedding jewelry. And now I just feel used.

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Speaker 3: So am I being a petty a hole by refusing

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Speaker 3: to go a little bit?

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Speaker 2: Probably?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you should still go. I do think

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Speaker 4: that if you're not in the bridal party anymore, you

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Speaker 4: should get a refund for that stuff kind of thing.

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Speaker 4: But like, is this friendship changing, Yes, should you pick

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Speaker 4: this spot to like throw a tantrum about? Probably not.

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Speaker 4: We should probably just like unfortunately back down a little bit.

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Speaker 3: This is less of like a shot at you and

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Speaker 3: more of just like the unfortunate, Like, hey, I can't

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Speaker 3: help it, you're just way hotter than me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want you up there because you're hotter

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Speaker 4: Like I'd be really confusedly hurt in like I'm hurt

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Speaker 4: that I can't be up there with you, but like

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Speaker 4: it's because you think I'm hot, right, So but I

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Speaker 4: wouldn't not go, Like I think I'd still be like,

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Speaker 4: of course, like hey, listen, like that really hurts. I'll

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Speaker 4: And then we can distance if we're like really that hurt.

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Speaker 3: We have some comments from Kitten Mittens. Oh waight o nine,

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Speaker 3: I've dumped friends for a lot less not the a

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Speaker 3: hole ta for Pterosaur says, I love how people seem

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Speaker 3: to think you will regret not going, and not that

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Speaker 3: she should regret her crappy behavior throwing away your friendship

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Speaker 3: because she's jealous of you.

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Speaker 2: How's that like?

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Speaker 4: I think she will though, that's the thing. But I

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Speaker 4: just don't think that that's our time to call that

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Speaker 4: out for her, because she's not the one asking for

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Speaker 4: that advice. She could regret that later on sharp maybe

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Speaker 4: she'll come back to you with an apology, but like,

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Speaker 4: ultimately she's not gonna change it. She's not gonna come

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Speaker 4: to that. No one's gonna give her crap for it.

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Speaker 4: So it's like our own selves to take care of.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it makes sense to want to be

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Speaker 4: I don't think that you should ever get rid of friends, though,

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Speaker 4: because I think no matter what, the bride is gonna

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Speaker 4: be the hottest one at the wedding. Yeah, the spotlight

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Speaker 4: will always just be on the bride. It's crazy to

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Speaker 4: be like it would be somewhere else. Nah, girl, you're

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Speaker 4: gonna be that princess. Don't don't worry. Yeah, me the

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Speaker 4: prettiest girl at the party. Where's bubbles?

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Speaker 3: I'm just sad because I'm so this person's a victim

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Speaker 4: Is it because you want to be the hottest person

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Speaker 4: at Opie's friend's wedding?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 4: No, no, we can get you out there.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't go to a wedding where the bride appointed

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Speaker 3: stuff related to that, and then booted me out of

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Speaker 3: the bridal party for any reason. But hers is particularly pathetic.

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Speaker 3: I think most of my friends are hotter than me.

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Speaker 3: But I'm not a pathetic baby, so it's fine. Not

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Speaker 3: the ahole ikey tree branch says, you know ages ago.

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Speaker 3: I looked up to my besti's ex boyfriend. His profile

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Speaker 3: pick was his wedding pick. Looking at his new bride objectively,

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Speaker 3: she was not as pretty as my friend. She was

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Speaker 3: kind of average looking, but that day she was radiant

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Speaker 3: would have been invisible. It's pretty difficult to outshine a

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Speaker 2: Judgment not the a whole. Updated twenty days later.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I do agree with a lot of that.

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Speaker 4: I just don't think there's much that you can do

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, you know, if you want to talk

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Speaker 3: about maybe getting some of your money back, or her

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Speaker 3: paying you back to the stuff you paid for, because

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Speaker 3: that's fair.

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Speaker 4: Definitely not getting part of that, I.

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Speaker 2: Think that's totally within the bounds of reason.

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Speaker 4: But like the rest of the stuff, like being back

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Speaker 4: in the bridal party or like not showing up, I

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Speaker 4: don't think that there's much that you can do about that,

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Speaker 4: Like she's not going to reinstate you as the maid

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Speaker 4: of honor at this point. I don't think would you

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Speaker 4: even want to be at that point, Like at that

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Speaker 4: like I've changed my mind, I think I'd be like,

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure I can, Yeah, which I guess is

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Speaker 4: the same thing. If you're not sure that you can't

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, we do have an update. Firstly, some

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Speaker 3: digging was done by my boyfriend and myself and we

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Speaker 3: think we found the root of the issue. A couple

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Speaker 3: of months ago, my boyfriend, Sophie's brother, the groom, and

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Speaker 3: Sophie were out for drinks. I remember this night I

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Speaker 3: had an event for another friend and couldn't go over drinks.

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Speaker 3: The groom apparently asked when my boyfriend was going to

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Speaker 3: propose to me, and my boyfriend said probably sometime next year.

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Speaker 3: Groom then made a comment to the effect of why

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Speaker 3: would you wait that long? She's perfect now, According to

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Speaker 3: both my boyfriend and Sophie's brother, Sophie was really mad

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Speaker 3: about this because groom waited several years to propose to her.

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Speaker 3: She's been bringing it up to him regularly since. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: we all assume he meant perfect for you, not literally perfect,

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Speaker 3: but Sophie appears to be taking it personally. The second

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Speaker 3: thing is that my mother did a little gentle probing,

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Speaker 4: Well, I feel like you are not confronting the people who.

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Speaker 4: Them, right, I would accept an apology and like us

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and especially after I hear the reasoning right one

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Speaker 2: This is understandable. Yeah, you've got a lot of stuff

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Speaker 4: Right, let me be your best friend. Let's talk about this.

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Speaker 6: Right, let me be your hot best friend.

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Speaker 3: No, he continues, I can't wrap my head around that,

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Speaker 3: Now that I've calmed down, I really don't feel any

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Speaker 2: From now on, I guess what are you talking about? Dude.

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Speaker 2: You're just upid. You're coping in a weird way.

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Speaker 4: Do whatever you want. Dude, I don't even care anymore.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you suck more than she does.

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Speaker 4: It. You're now doing like the exact same thing that

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Speaker 6: OPI, you may be hot, but you're acting ugly right now.

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Speaker 2: I haven't told anyone why I'm not made of honor.

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Speaker 3: I just said in the group chat that it for

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Speaker 2: And there's a little bit left of this.

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Speaker 3: Story from this show, OPI, you stink a little bit,

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Speaker 2: We're emotional creatures.

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Speaker 3: Once the wedding is over, I'll tell our mutual friends

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Speaker 2: Why you're being a problem.

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Speaker 3: You're making the problem where she she reached out to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I was potentially pre harsh to you,

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Speaker 3: I it's surprised me how quickly I've reached the numbness

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Speaker 3: but I just have zero interest in being part of

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Speaker 4: So that's that you're all little stinky poop poop babies

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Speaker 6: All over, just like that's a really tall horse there

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Speaker 6: you got op.

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Speaker 3: Oh, this is all just over, like a symbolic title

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Speaker 3: for a symbolic ceremony that is just based on nothing

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Speaker 2: To do with you, guys, destroy you guys. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: If anyone else has anything to ask that I've missed,

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Speaker 2: Thank you to everyone who commented. And that's the end

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Speaker 6: I just want you to comment.

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Speaker 4: Can we have like a common you just have.

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Speaker 3: The conversation your numb little you little light a cane

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Speaker 4: We're throwing twenty years of friendship away because both of

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Speaker 2: Well, no, it's because she had freaking snakes in her ear,

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Speaker 2: being like she looks so much hotter than you, and

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Speaker 4: Insecurities are rough. Sometimes they hit you, sometimes you're not

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Speaker 4: Like that's it's not fair to you, but it's like

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Speaker 6: No, this one, this one's this is brand new.

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Speaker 4: Can we read it to put us so key on?

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Speaker 1: Please?

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Speaker 2: We gotten? We've got more. Update now, folks.

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Speaker 4: Up up update. Take your guests on before or after

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I think I think.

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Speaker 4: It's I'm gonna guess after.

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Speaker 3: A lot of people wanted an update post wedding, and

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Speaker 3: I didn't really think I was going to do one

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Speaker 3: Everyone in our families ended up figuring out the general

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Speaker 2: Me not being in the wedding. I didn't tell them,

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Speaker 3: Sophie's brother got it from her fiance, and I guess

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Speaker 2: Sophie stopped reaching out.

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Speaker 3: Shortly after that happened, my boyfriend and I got engaged

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Speaker 4: Loel, what did he propose with? I don't know, a

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Speaker 4: rock like a penguin, a leaf. I got you this pebble.

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Speaker 2: I got you this pebble.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was beautiful like you, and I'm almost

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Speaker 4: That's what penguins do. They picked the prettiest rock.

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Speaker 3: We only told our own parents and decided it would

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Speaker 3: go all out on my outfit for the wedding, sorry

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Speaker 4: I think that would have been rude if he did.

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Speaker 3: All in all, the wedding was nice and smooth. I

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Speaker 4: But yeah, why didn't we just hash this out and

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Speaker 3: Like I said, I've barely been home and a wedding

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Speaker 3: I got from the conversations I did have that people

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Speaker 3: I was busy this time of year, which I am,

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Speaker 4: I was wondering when the engagement was going to come up,

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Speaker 3: We are still racking our brains to think how the

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Speaker 3: I won't be so self absorbed to say it ruined

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Speaker 6: They probably did.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they did.

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Speaker 6: They had to. They had to. If those are the

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Speaker 6: they must have. They must have told somebody. And they

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Speaker 6: were like, we brot, We didn't tell anybody. You definitely

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Speaker 4: Someone saw them ring shopping and like called Nick up

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Speaker 4: and guess what I just saw?

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Speaker 2: I mean, it could have been your fiance. Let's be honest.

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Speaker 4: Isn't Nick like his good friend, right someone okay, must

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Speaker 6: Someone out of all of you must have told somebody,

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Speaker 3: We didn't confront him because he was pretty tipsy by

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Speaker 6: The only person's fault. That was was Sophie's husband that said,

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Speaker 3: It's like, bruh, this is our way, this is your wedding,

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Speaker 3: the what ailding?

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Speaker 6: To make things so much worse, our friends.

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Speaker 2: Still don't know the full story.

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Speaker 3: By the way, I'm not really free to even meet

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Speaker 3: I think I just want to give this awesome breathing

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Speaker 3: the engagement and shocked about what happened. None of them

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00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,760
Speaker 3: have spoken to Sophie since she's away right now, and

442
00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:58,360
Speaker 3: I guess avoiding everyone.

443
00:18:58,520 --> 00:18:59,040
Speaker 2: So that's that.

444
00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,760
Speaker 3: Really not the update I thought i'd be giving, or

445
00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,040
Speaker 3: when I want it. I'm pretty shell shocked right now,

446
00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,199
Speaker 3: to be honest, this has all just got so much

447
00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,600
Speaker 3: uglier than it ever needed to be. But I don't

448
00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,359
Speaker 3: know if these two things are even related. Maybe they're not.

449
00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,399
Speaker 3: I'm still a bit creeped out that Nick managed to

450
00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,280
Speaker 3: find out something literally only five people knew, and you

451
00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:16,960
Speaker 3: don't know how.

452
00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,879
Speaker 4: So who's the fifth Your mom, your dad, you and

453
00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,080
Speaker 4: your fiance. Who's the fifth someone else knew? They probably

454
00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:24,920
Speaker 4: spilled the beans.

455
00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:26,919
Speaker 2: I don't know what else to say. And that's the

456
00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:28,280
Speaker 2: end of that story. Yeah, I don't know.

457
00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,199
Speaker 3: It sounds like just like if you guys would have

458
00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,640
Speaker 3: just worked this out, like you know, mature adults and

459
00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,200
Speaker 3: just been like, hey, you had little They got their

460
00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:36,960
Speaker 3: hooks in your brain.

461
00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,080
Speaker 2: It's okay. I'm here to pull the hooks out of

462
00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:39,440
Speaker 2: your brain.

463
00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,800
Speaker 4: And fiance weird for calling that out.

464
00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is weird. That is weird. But that is

465
00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,080
Speaker 2: the end of that story. And we have another one

466
00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:46,479
Speaker 2: coming up.

467
00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,480
Speaker 4: My friend refused to support me when my beloved cat

468
00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:50,240
Speaker 4: passed away.

469
00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:51,520
Speaker 2: That's not a friend.

470
00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:55,320
Speaker 4: I forties female and Jonna forty's female. I am a

471
00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,680
Speaker 4: cat rescuer and eight months ago my own cat, who

472
00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,800
Speaker 4: was like a daughter to me, passed away very suddenly

473
00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:06,280
Speaker 4: after multiple mixed diagnoses and treatments. It broke my heart.

474
00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,600
Speaker 4: Johnna is also an animal lover and recently a single

475
00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,440
Speaker 4: mom from a divorce and an empty nester. She also

476
00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,320
Speaker 4: has two cats. I had two of my own, not

477
00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:19,280
Speaker 4: including the fosters. By the way, this comes from Arwin

478
00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,240
Speaker 4: and aowen and if you want to submit your own stories,

479
00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,960
Speaker 4: go to the r slash okay, storytime supreddit and we're

480
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,520
Speaker 4: here to give good advice. Goofully. We don't have all

481
00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,720
Speaker 4: the answers, We only know what we would do. Let

482
00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:31,560
Speaker 4: us know what you would do in the comments and

483
00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,280
Speaker 4: op says Johna. Left me alone for weeks, sent one

484
00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,439
Speaker 4: short text and called about two weeks later. Once I

485
00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,080
Speaker 4: didn't see the call until later. I did text her

486
00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,000
Speaker 4: a few times asking for support. She had apologized, then

487
00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,679
Speaker 4: send long texts about how hard she was working and

488
00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,359
Speaker 4: how hard her life was and how little money she had.

489
00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:54,200
Speaker 4: This was while she was posting on social media parties, weddings, travel,

490
00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,480
Speaker 4: constant updates. I was in an accident three months ago.

491
00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,399
Speaker 4: I didn't tell Joanna, and very few people know. It

492
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,639
Speaker 4: was a bad accident, and I'm still recovering, still in pain,

493
00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:07,199
Speaker 4: and still without a car or income. Johna texts occasionally,

494
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 4: very cheerfully, acting like everything's okay. One of Jona's cats

495
00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,480
Speaker 4: passed away suddenly about a month ago. I sent my

496
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,760
Speaker 4: condolences by text and on social media, as she'd post

497
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,880
Speaker 4: about it there. Jonna has a friend who occasionally donates

498
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,639
Speaker 4: to my rescues about once a month. Jonna usually sends

499
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,720
Speaker 4: me the bank slip after the transfer, and I always

500
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 4: thank her. The last time I told Joanna that I

501
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,680
Speaker 4: had been in an accident, she said she was sorry

502
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,080
Speaker 4: to hear that and didn't ask for anything more. So

503
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 4: that's been the pattern. I've been polite but distant for

504
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,879
Speaker 4: eight months, and she's been acting as if everything's okay.

505
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,639
Speaker 4: Today Johna texted again about the donation. She said she'd

506
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,200
Speaker 4: called and wondered why I didn't pick up, but when

507
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,480
Speaker 4: I checked my call log, she hadn't. I said I

508
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,879
Speaker 4: hadn't seen it. I texted her saying, hey, I know

509
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,879
Speaker 4: you want to speak. I want to as well, but

510
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 4: you know we can't speak as we used to.

511
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:55,959
Speaker 2: Why not? Why not?

512
00:21:56,119 --> 00:22:00,639
Speaker 3: I'm confused. Did she already ignore that your cat passway? Yeah,

513
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 3: it didn't sound like that happened. Did we skip?

514
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 4: I didn't think that happened yet. She replied with long

515
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 4: text about how busy she's been, how hard her work is,

516
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 4: how difficult take care of the kids are, some in college,

517
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,120
Speaker 4: some working all out of state, and how much she's traveling.

518
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 4: I sent her, okay it is after Okay, I sent

519
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,440
Speaker 4: her a voice note saying that her lack of support

520
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,399
Speaker 4: when my girl passed away really made me sad. I

521
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,680
Speaker 4: know she's busy in all that, but it hasn't been

522
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 4: exactly easy for me. I'm sorry her cat passed away.

523
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 4: I'm sorry things are hard for her, but honestly, my

524
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 4: cat passing away and my accident are about me. I

525
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 4: don't have the capacity to support anyone else. I'm still

526
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 4: in constant pain. She sent me multiple voice notes, calling

527
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 4: me selfish and self centered and a disappointment to her

528
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 4: and a fake person if I claimed to be on

529
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 4: the spiritual path yet filled with self pity. I'm like

530
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 4: so confused about this story so far.

531
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 2: It sounds like you guys both did the exact same

532
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:54,680
Speaker 2: thing to each other.

533
00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, it sounds like no, no, you did reach out,

534
00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,399
Speaker 4: but also just with sending her condolences, which is what

535
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 4: Johnna did. I think it's like one of those things

536
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 4: where it's like everyone has some sort of struggle in life,

537
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 4: and everyone's struggle is going to be different, and we

538
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,160
Speaker 4: can have the sympathy about it for everybody, but like

539
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 4: it doesn't change that, Like one person can still be

540
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 4: struggling if they're not deemed as like much of a

541
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 4: struggle as yours kind of thing. But you also don't

542
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 4: need to hear about it all the time. You guys

543
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 4: can be friends without only talking about that.

544
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,920
Speaker 3: More to life than your cat that is gone, which

545
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,639
Speaker 3: is sad, but I don't know. It doesn't seem like

546
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,360
Speaker 3: the time to then lose one of your best friends, right.

547
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 2: Guys, there is a very exciting stream happening Thursday, and

548
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 2: I cannot wait. That's all I'm gonna say.

549
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 4: Ohp. He continues that she would not apologize for living

550
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,919
Speaker 4: her life and not reaching out. It shocked me and

551
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 4: hurt me a lot. I responded as calmly as I

552
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,119
Speaker 4: could that I didn't hold her responsible for what happened

553
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 4: to me, but for her lack of support as a friend,

554
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 4: and that what happened this year showed me who truly

555
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 4: cared and who didn't. I wished her well, I wished

556
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,880
Speaker 4: her peace every happiness, and told her this friendship was over,

557
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 4: that there was no going back. I'm frankly quite stunned

558
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 4: by what happened. Johnna and I were family friends. My

559
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 4: mother liked her, loved her kids, but she's kept away

560
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 4: this year since my girl passed away. I do wonder

561
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,360
Speaker 4: if I should have been more forgiving and pretended everything

562
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 4: was okay and been friends with her like normal. Am

563
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,439
Speaker 4: I the a hole? Edit? It always felt like the

564
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 4: Misery Olympics. I lost my cat, but she's having the

565
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 4: hard life. I ask for support, but her life sucks.

566
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 4: I have an accident, but she's working overtime to feed

567
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,159
Speaker 4: her kids. Even today, when she was calling me names,

568
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 4: it was all about how her life is so hard.

569
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 4: It often felt like I had to put aside how

570
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 4: I felt and commiserate with her. This has happened before,

571
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 4: when I was having a rough time financially and she

572
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 4: told me she'd had it harder when she was first married.

573
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 4: She just sounds miserable. She just wants to complain all

574
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 4: the time.

575
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 3: I mean, it sounds like you're looking for support from

576
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 3: a person who is like I can barely support myself. Yeah,

577
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 3: every day I struggled to support myself and my children,

578
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 3: So I don't really have the bandwidth to support you.

579
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 3: And it does sound like she's miserable if she's doing

580
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 3: the Yeah, well my financial situation was even worse.

581
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe she needs a therapist. So it's not just

582
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 4: dumped on our friend.

583
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's it's really uh. Our friends are

584
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 3: only built for so much before It's like, I don't

585
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 3: even know what to say my guy, like you got

586
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 3: to talk to professional.

587
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 4: We have an update, an update in case anyone is interested.

588
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 4: The background that I left out at the first post

589
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 4: for link. I had known Johnna for eight years. Jonah

590
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 4: works in a pharmacy as a great boss who gives

591
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 4: her grape bonuses, and she's been there for almost fifteen years.

592
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 4: Johna married young the first time. I think she was twenty.

593
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,959
Speaker 4: She had four daughters with her ex before they split up.

594
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 4: She then left her girls with her ex and moved

595
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 4: away for work. When she came back to our town

596
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 4: a few years later, her oldest, now twenty five, didn't

597
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 4: want to live with her, but the three younger girls did.

598
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,959
Speaker 4: She then married her second husband, whom she split up

599
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 4: with last year. He took on her kids and they

600
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 4: adopted another daughter a few years later, so three out

601
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 4: of four girls are now in college. In total, Johanna

602
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,640
Speaker 4: has five girls, including one who's no contact with her.

603
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 4: Johanna loves posting on social media. Everything she's going through

604
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 4: is posted there, except for her split. Johna's oldest daughter

605
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 4: has gone no contact with her, so Johna goes to

606
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 4: her daughter's social media, downloads her public pictures, and shares

607
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,679
Speaker 4: them on her own social media, accompanied by sad posts

608
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 4: and sad poetry. That wasn't the biggest tell about who

609
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 4: she is, though, that's crazy.

610
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 3: I mean I'd probably do the same thing if I

611
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,360
Speaker 3: had a kid who refused to speak to me, I'd

612
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:34,199
Speaker 3: be I don't even know what that.

613
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 4: Go to her social media, take the pictures, post the.

614
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 2: Sable emotional mess all the time. I'm sure you know

615
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 2: it sounds like you're looking for your support in the

616
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 2: wrong place. Yeah, y'all both need support.

617
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 4: She posts about work, TikTok dances, videos of her singing

618
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 4: and partying, and traveling about her sadness, heartbreak. It's constant.

619
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 4: Johna told me at the start of last year that

620
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 4: she's been unhappy with her marriage for a while. After

621
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 4: she split up with him at the end of last year,

622
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 4: she told me that her husband had been verbally harmful,

623
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 4: but also that she didn't want to get a divorce.

624
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,439
Speaker 4: She said she missed out by marrying young and wanted

625
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 4: to go out and drink and party. Now she just

626
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 4: wanted separate lives where they went out with other people

627
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 4: and stayed married in name. He didn't want that, so

628
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 4: she moved out. Stead of renting a house of her own,

629
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 4: she got herself a small flat where she took two rooms.

630
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 4: The landlady was also a friend she parties with and

631
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 4: is home half the month, so she has the last room.

632
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 4: The girls found this very hard, leaving the house they'd

633
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 4: grown up in, the lack of privacy, and missing their dad,

634
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 4: whom they still see regularly. They spent last Christmas with

635
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 4: him as JOHNA wanted to work, and apparently we're planning

636
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 4: to spend this Christmas with him too, which brings us

637
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,239
Speaker 4: to the update. Like I'd mentioned, Jna was constantly on

638
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,679
Speaker 4: social media, which is how I had known where she

639
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 4: was and what she was doing. I had reached out

640
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 4: to her for support a few times by text, but

641
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 4: every other time her reply would be about how hard

642
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 4: she was working, how tired she was, and how she

643
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 4: was so broke. Then she'd post on social media about

644
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 4: going to the movies or spending a day with a friend.

645
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 4: And I actually did tell her about the accident, I

646
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 4: just hadn't gone into detail about it, and she'd text

647
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 4: in OHMG back, so there was no way she didn't

648
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 4: know that I was upset or that our friendship hadn't

649
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 4: been the same for the last eight months, and that's

650
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 4: why I was so annoyed when she'd send the cheering

651
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 4: messages as if everything was okay. I also found out

652
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 4: that her cat passed away of kidney stones, and when

653
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 4: I asked, she said he had been showing symptoms for

654
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 4: a while, but she hadn't taken it seriously until the end.

655
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 4: I was really angry about that. I don't think we

656
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 4: need to judge her for a passing of a pet

657
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 4: that I'm sure she's very sad about.

658
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 2: N I'd be mad too. It was like, yeah, I

659
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 2: was clear there's something wrong with your cat.

660
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 3: You just like didn't take it and didn't take it

661
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 3: and didn't take it, and then it's like, oh, nothing

662
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 3: I can do now.

663
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 4: If they were legit symptoms, I guess that one confuses

664
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 4: me because a lot of times cats can be very

665
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 4: just like hiding of their symptoms kind of thing.

666
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, if it was a shock, that's one thing, But.

667
00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 4: I guess maybe that's what I'm picturing, and that was

668
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 4: probably my own personal.

669
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 3: It really really bugs me when people have problems, their

670
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 3: pets have problems, and they're like, yeah, but I just

671
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 3: can't I can't take.

672
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 2: Them to the vet.

673
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, then don't have a pet, right.

674
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 2: Well, then I guess you gotta do something else.

675
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 4: If you can't afford to help the cat, you shouldn't

676
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 4: have the.

677
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 2: Cat, give it to someone who can take it to

678
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 2: the vet.

679
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 4: In my last message to her, after her rant about

680
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 4: how selfish and self absorbed I was and a disappointment

681
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 4: and disgrace to her spiritual studies, to God, to my mom,

682
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 4: to everyone, I pointed out how I had not once

683
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 4: called her names. I wasn't judging how she lived her life,

684
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 4: and I was calling her out for her lack of

685
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 4: support as a friend. That she couldn't take back what

686
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 4: she had said, and there was no going back on

687
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 4: her friendship. It was over. I unfriended her on social

688
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 4: media and deleted her number and all of her messages.

689
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 4: There's a little bit more.

690
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 2: I think it's just get too I think there's too

691
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 2: many feelings.

692
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think your friend Johnna is mostly just

693
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 3: kind of miserable. You've kind of internalized that as her

694
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 3: being not caring about you and maybe she doesn't because

695
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 3: she's too busy being miserable to care about her friends properly.

696
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 4: Yesterday, almost two weeks later, she sent me a text

697
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 4: about how God was being so good to her by

698
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 4: taking me out of her life.

699
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 2: Shut up, girl, you.

700
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 3: Let your cat die from Kinney Stones. You're trash that

701
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 3: I am fake.

702
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 4: I am much stupider than she realized. I talk nonsense.

703
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 4: I don't deserve to have her as a friend after

704
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 4: all the good things she's done for me. Anna added

705
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 4: some laughing emoji's.

706
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 2: Yeah she had some boxed wine before she sent that,

707
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 2: for sure.

708
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 4: Just typing it, taking a sip, typing more, taking another sip,

709
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 4: laughing a little bit.

710
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 2: She's just got like the she's just.

711
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 4: Got a hamster thing so she can lick it.

712
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's got I'm not minding.

713
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 4: That for you. It was a vile, ugly little message,

714
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 4: but I'm not mad at her. I feel really sorry

715
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 4: for her. I have now blocked her. I thought you

716
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 4: already did that, and I do feel sad. I thought

717
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 4: we had a good friendship and that talking things out

718
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 4: would help us both. I guess she didn't feel the

719
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 4: same way. That's the end of that story.

720
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 2: Don't cry over spilt milk. You know what I'm saying.

721
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's just get John out of here. Let's find

722
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 4: some cool people that support us and are cool.

723
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 2: They're out there. You know, there's plenty of people out

724
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 2: there who are cool.

725
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 4: And probably also have cats and take them to the vet.

726
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 2: And would like you for liking cats.

727
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 4: That's the end of that story. Aim, we got another one.

728
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: Hey, it's Sam. We're gonna get back to the stories.

729
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: But here's three minutes of bads from our sponsors.

730
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Speaker 3: My friend launched a smear campaign against me, so I

731
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 3: moved abroad.

732
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 4: That just sounds like you're fleeing the country from something.

733
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 3: This happened freshman year of college in twenty eighteen. I

734
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 3: signed up for an early orientation program where I met

735
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 3: a core friend group, including Bailey not.

736
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 2: Her real name.

737
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 3: She introduced herself, explaining this was her second attempt at

738
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 3: freshman year after getting a terrible concussion. By the way,

739
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 3: this comes from user tak a bear one direct from

740
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 3: the r slash Showcase Storytime subreddit. And if you want

741
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 3: to submit your own stories, go to the r slash

742
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 3: Showcase Storytime subreddit and we're here to give good advice, Goofley,

743
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 3: but we don't have all the answers.

744
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 2: We only have the answers that we would do.

745
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 3: Okay, So if you we have different answers, why don't

746
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 3: you just let us know what they are in the comments?

747
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 3: And Nop says she carried herself with intense and chaotic energy,

748
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 3: sometimes bringing up the vibe with her sense of humor,

749
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 3: but often crossing boundaries. The main issues were all around

750
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 3: her conduct. She'd yell in people's faces, grab them, invade

751
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 3: personal space, share private information, and be extremely loud and obnoxious.

752
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 3: We'd tell her to stop, which was often. She always

753
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 3: felt terrible and attributed her choices to her concussion, explaining

754
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 3: she sometimes did things she felt she had no control over.

755
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 3: We felt terrible because she was clearly struggling. We started

756
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 3: noticing she'd appear wherever we were hanging out more frequently.

757
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 3: She was always around. One evening, she pushed a guy

758
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 3: into the street, hard enough that he was nearly injured

759
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 3: by a car. She meant it as a joke. Then

760
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 3: came my incident. I was in my dorm taking a

761
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 3: shower when I heard the bathroom door open. I figured

762
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 3: it was my roommate, My dorm was a suite where

763
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 3: my roommate and I shared a bathroom with two other girls.

764
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 3: Before I knew it, the shower curtain was pushed open

765
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 3: and it was Bailey with her phone out recording me.

766
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 4: What.

767
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 2: No, that's immediate like snatch and tackle behavior.

768
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 4: That's like called a cops behavior. You're recording me in

769
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 4: the shower.

770
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,479
Speaker 2: Yeah what? I was in utter shock.

771
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 3: She was laughing, thinking it was a hilarious prank, and

772
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 3: I was reacting out of sheer panic. I told her,

773
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 3: please please delete it. Take another one that doesn't show anything.

774
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 3: I was truly scared and didn't know what she was

775
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 3: gonna do with that video. She reluctantly said okay and

776
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 3: took another video while I covered myself. She then left

777
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 3: and I finished the shower in utter shock. Take another

778
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 3: one where I'm covered up. Bro, No, that's like leave

779
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 3: me alone forever. Leave me alone indefinitely. I'll let you

780
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 3: know when you can talk to me again. Give me

781
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 3: your phone right now, I'm deleting that. Yeah, right, Ala, geez,

782
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 3: give me your phone, or I'm prosecuting you. Well, it's

783
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 3: so violated and embarrassed. My biggest concern was making sure

784
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 3: the footage wouldn't get anywhere. I asked my roommate why

785
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 3: Bailey was in our room, and she told me, oh,

786
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 3: she said you were expecting her, which she realized immediately

787
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 3: upon hearing me wasn't true. My roommate was appalled. I

788
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 3: sent Bailey a message later that week. I know I

789
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 3: was playing along in the moment, but I was uncomfortable

790
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 3: with the whole thing, and I politely request that she

791
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 3: deleted the videos and not share them with anyone.

792
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 4: That's not a politely request situation, Yes, a demand, that's

793
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 4: like an aggressive demand.

794
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 3: Immediately she agreed and apologized. I didn't share the bigger

795
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 3: picture of my feelings or explain why I reacted the

796
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 3: way I did. You don't really need to explain why

797
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 3: you'd react that way when you're in the shower and

798
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 3: your privacy is violated while you're being recorded. Yeah, there's

799
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 3: no need to explain that. She walked away, interpreting my

800
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 3: reaction as me thinking it was funny, not as a

801
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,760
Speaker 3: panic response. She thought because I asked for another video

802
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 3: that it was fine with me. She didn't see any

803
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 3: signs of a bit your issue because I didn't tell

804
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 3: her there was one. I was afraid of the drama,

805
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 3: but I did tell my group of friends and they

806
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 3: were all supportive.

807
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 2: I took my space from her after that. A week

808
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:11,959
Speaker 2: or so later, a few girls.

809
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,959
Speaker 3: In the group and I were studying in a hard

810
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 3: to find place in the library when she showed up.

811
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 3: We were individually studying, so when she sat down, I

812
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 3: said hi, but kept my earbuds in. Suddenly she grabbed

813
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 3: the cord and pulled the earbud out of my ear abruptly.

814
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 3: It hurt and startled me. I told her it's not

815
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 3: okay to do that. She got defensive but apologized, and

816
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 3: I could tell she felt bad. It was the same

817
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 3: impulsive behavior she'd always immediately feel remorseful for.

818
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 2: I decided I.

819
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 3: Wasn't going to be friends with her anymore. I didn't

820
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 3: plan to tell her or confront her. I just wanted

821
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 3: to keep my distance. After Bailey left, the girls and

822
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 3: I started talking. That's when I learned about the pushing

823
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 3: someone into the road situation. The same girl, Sue, told

824
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 3: me she'd been having even worse issues with Bailey since

825
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 3: my shower incident.

826
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 2: The worst was that Bailey had come up behind Sue

827
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 2: and grabbed her lee by the neck as a joke,

828
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 2: as real joke. Yeah, I mean, and we're talking about someone.

829
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 3: Who has basically TBI, like she had an extreme concussion,

830
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 3: and that can cause behavioral changes. It can cause problems

831
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 3: with impulse control, first chars, all kinds of stuff.

832
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 4: But this is like a as someone who's multiple percussions.

833
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 4: I never wanted to like start inappropriately doing things to

834
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 4: my friends like this. Yeah. No, I mean, and I'm

835
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 4: sure it can present itself in different ways, but it's

836
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 4: not an excuse.

837
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 2: It's just a right. It's not like this person is

838
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 2: just like a you know.

839
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 4: There's a potential reason for why the sudden change up,

840
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 4: but like we need to get you.

841
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 2: Don't have control. It's not your job. They now have

842
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 2: to deal with this person.

843
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, we realized all these incidents occurred at times where

844
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 3: she ran into us. How did she know we were there?

845
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 3: We checked our phones and saw that several of us

846
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 3: had our location shared with her either via Snapchat or

847
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 3: find my and not one of us recalled sharing our

848
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 3: locations with her. That's crazy.

849
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 4: That's when I'd want to know. Two was that before

850
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 4: or after the concussion.

851
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 3: We would often pass our phones around to share things,

852
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,280
Speaker 3: and figured she must have shared it with herself. People

853
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 3: in the group who had never handed her their phone

854
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 3: didn't have their location shared, which solidified that theory. It

855
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 3: felt premeditated and unsafe. I had already mentally checked out

856
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 3: of the friendship, so I wanted to unshare my location

857
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 3: and move on. But Sue was very emotionally affected and

858
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 3: really felt for Bailey. She didn't want to ghost her,

859
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 3: and Bailey could easily show up at events. After a

860
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 3: few talks, Sue was getting more upset. About a week

861
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 3: after the earbud incident, Sue was preparing to talk with

862
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 3: Bailey and asked me to be there for the conversation.

863
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 3: This was my fatal mistake.

864
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 2: I agreed.

865
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,760
Speaker 3: The plan was for Sue to talk about what happened

866
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 3: with her, the street incident and the net grabbing situation,

867
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 3: and how Sue wants space but still wants to stay

868
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 3: friends with better boundaries. I didn't want to be friends

869
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 3: at all, but this wasn't supposed to be about me.

870
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 3: I intended to stay in my supportive but passive role.

871
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 3: We were very concerned about hurting Bailey. We put a

872
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 3: lot of thought into the location, deciding on a gazebo

873
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,760
Speaker 3: in the quad private enough, but public enough to prevent

874
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 3: a big scene. The plan was I was there for

875
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 3: moral support while Sue would do all the talking. Despite

876
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 3: our care, the outcome didn't reflect that at all. Leading

877
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,760
Speaker 3: up to the talk, Sue was sick with a terrible

878
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 3: sinus cough and had been carrying around rolls of toilet

879
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 3: paper to use his tissues. Right away, we could tell

880
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,399
Speaker 3: Bailey was not happy.

881
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 2: To be there.

882
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 3: Sue started sharing about the incidents, and we saw tears

883
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 3: well up in Bailey's eyes. When the conversation became about

884
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 3: boundaries in space, it all took a turn for the worse.

885
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 3: Sue had been getting more worked up, which impacted her sinuses,

886
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 3: causing her to cough and blow her nose frequently. When

887
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,399
Speaker 3: she saw Bailey's tears, she quickly handed her the roll

888
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 3: of toilet paper. As Sue got more emotional, Bailey started

889
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 3: shifting from defensive to offensive. Sue was now basically unable

890
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 3: to speak between the emotion and the sinuses, Bailey started

891
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:01,280
Speaker 3: directing her attention and words to me. No longer the passive,

892
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 3: supportive friend, I was trying to share what Sue had discussed,

893
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 3: defending her, giving empathy to Bailey, but it was hard

894
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 3: to speak for someone else and not bring up my

895
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 3: own experience. Eventually, I had to be the one to

896
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 3: say that because of everything, it made sense for there to.

897
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 2: Be some space.

898
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 3: I tried to emphasize this level of drama and intensity

899
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 3: was just too much. At this point, Bailey was devastated

900
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 3: and fuming. She basically said, so, you basically planned this

901
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 3: all out so that you could humiliate me here in

902
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 3: the center of campus, anticipating how sad I'd be that

903
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 3: you brought toilet paper from me when I cried, knowing

904
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 3: that I'd have to walk of shame somewhere after basically

905
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,240
Speaker 3: being dumped by all my friends.

906
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 2: Well, that's certainly one way to look at it.

907
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I could also understand though, and not to keep

908
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 4: defending her with the whole like, but she sound concussion,

909
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 4: that that is such an influx of emotions for when

910
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 4: you have it, like anytime that I've had a concussion.

911
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 4: My biggest thing is that I can't control my emotions

912
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 4: as much, like things will upset me really quickly.

913
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 6: Really, what nothing?

914
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 2: What what you gotta say back there? Boyfriend?

915
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 3: I love you, to be clear, I think the meanest

916
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 3: thing they could have done here was to just ghost

917
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 3: you and never speak to you again.

918
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 2: But that's one that's a different thing.

919
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 4: Having a conversation. This is like needed to happen. And

920
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 4: I don't agree that you guys are like being awful

921
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,240
Speaker 4: to her. I'm just saying I do think that that's

922
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 4: why she's reacting this way. Yeah, and again, we can't

923
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 4: keep like you can't just keep dealing with that.

924
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 2: She's got a concussy. She's gonna be fussy. I was stunned.

925
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 3: Everything we planned backfired. Not only did she hate what

926
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 3: we said, she hated how we said it. She interpreted

927
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 3: everything we did as extra cruel, which was the opposite

928
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 3: of what we intended. I saw her perspective right away

929
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 3: and instantly regretted those choices. We truly had no bad intentions,

930
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 3: but the result was hurtful. However, an even more unanticipated

931
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:53,720
Speaker 3: outcome was that somehow I became the aggressor and villain

932
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 3: in the story. Bailey left feeling victimized by us, but

933
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 3: specifically me. For some reason, Bailee, she didn't hold a

934
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 3: grudge against Sue or anyone.

935
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 4: Else because you didn't cry. I guess so thanks, probably

936
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 4: because there was like you were the no. I don't

937
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 4: want to say harshest one, but maybe most stone faced,

938
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 4: like angry, front about it kind of thing. And I

939
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 4: think you should be like someone like I'm a crier.

940
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 4: Someone's gotta someone's gotta not cry, or you just gotta

941
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 4: do it through two something.

942
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 2: Every group needs a non crier.

943
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 4: Are you implying that to you? No?

944
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 2: I cry Anyway.

945
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 3: Bailey went on to tell everybody about this story, not

946
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 3: just about her version of our talk and how I

947
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 3: intentionally publicly humiliated her, but everything that led up to

948
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 3: this between she and I, except it wasn't reality.

949
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 2: It was her skewed version.

950
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: Huh.

951
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 3: She told people about the shower incident and how I

952
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 3: actively went out of my way to tell people that

953
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 3: she did this horrible thing she didn't do, and then

954
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 3: showed them the video of me asking her to take

955
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 3: another video as her evidence. So not only did I

956
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 3: learn she lied and clearly did not delete the videos,

957
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 3: but also that my nightmare of the videos being shown

958
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 3: around was coming true. Because I didn't gossip about this

959
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 3: or tell a lot of people, really only the people

960
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 3: in the group, no one would have reason to not

961
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 3: believe her. She painted me as a mean spirited conspirator

962
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 3: that created this fake story. I tried to move on

963
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 3: and let it go, and I felt guilty for how

964
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 3: badly we had hurt Bailey. When it came up, I

965
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 3: told the truth and the whole truth. I owned my

966
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 3: mistakes and the timeline of events. But the problem arose

967
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 3: when people stopped asking me. Throughout the next year and

968
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 3: a half, I'd make friends that would later ghost me.

969
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 3: I realized Bailey had been telling people this story and

970
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 3: making me out to be a crazy liar, despite the

971
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 3: fact that all my friends from the time of the

972
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 3: shower incident stood by my side. In a stroke of

973
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 3: luck or misfortune, Bailey and I were on the same

974
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 3: summer internship program abroad and were also roommates. Believe it

975
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 3: or not, Bailey and I made peace. I was even

976
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 3: able to explain and apologize to her for the conversation.

977
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,439
Speaker 3: She accepted, and we were friendly and things were fine, or.

978
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 2: So I thought exactly. Dude, she just was conspiring. Why

979
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:03,240
Speaker 2: would you make peace?

980
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 4: How long ago was this concussion?

981
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 3: I don't know, But why would you make peace with

982
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 3: the person who did this to you and then should

983
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 3: trust them?

984
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 4: I mean, sometimes the personality changes can like completely revert

985
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 4: back and she could just be normal Bailey again. But

986
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 4: sometimes they don't, So I don't know that I'd be

987
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 4: so easily trusted without like a giant apology.

988
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 2: And you could, I think, and even then prosecute her

989
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 2: for that video that she's shown on a bunch of people.

990
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:32,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, does she still have those?

991
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 2: Despite this?

992
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 3: Bailey's new best friend forever, Amaya, also a fake name,

993
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 3: who was in our apartment, had made it her personal

994
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 3: mission to save anyone from me, and Bailey wasn't interested

995
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 3: in stopping her. Harry, another fake name, was my close

996
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 3: friend who joined the group in the semester. After all

997
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 3: this drama, somewhere Maya got to Harry and changed his

998
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 3: mind about me like a complete one eighty. Harry had

999
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 3: even been on a pre program trip with Sue. He

1000
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 3: was connected to people who caroborated my story, but it

1001
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 3: didn't matter. Maya was convincing, and Bailey's showing him the

1002
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 3: videos sealed my fate. Yes, she still had them. A

1003
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 3: year later, he became friends with them and stopped talking

1004
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 3: to me. I went back to school for one final

1005
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 3: semester before I'd move abroad and transfer. I thought this

1006
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 3: drama would have blown over. Sadly, that's not what happened.

1007
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 3: Maya moved on to another abroad program in Spain, which

1008
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 3: happened to be the same program as my best friend,

1009
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 3: who wasn't in this group. It took two weeks and

1010
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 3: I never heard from her again. I tried to beach

1011
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 3: out many times, but Maya convinced her I was evil.

1012
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 3: My friend never asked me for my side, and I

1013
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 3: never got the chance to tell her, which means she

1014
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 3: wasn't your friend. You thought this person was your best friend,

1015
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 3: but she wasn't, was not or doesn't even have the

1016
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 3: sense to ask you for your side of the story,

1017
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 3: which means you're better off not having that person as

1018
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 3: a friend.

1019
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 2: Is there a moron?

1020
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 4: Friends? Check in about it.

1021
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 3: No one would come to me for my side because

1022
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 3: they were convinced I was a liar. Part of why

1023
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,280
Speaker 3: I moved away and left that school was because because

1024
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 3: those two girls were actively coming after me. Most people

1025
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 3: didn't care, But for the ones that did, especially the

1026
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 3: close friends I lost, it was very painful. The most

1027
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 3: frustrating part was that I was fully willing to own

1028
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 3: my mistakes, but no one would give me the chance.

1029
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 2: But there's a little bit left to this one. Let's

1030
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 2: finish it off.

1031
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: Hey it's Sam. We'll get back to the stories. But

1032
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 1: here's three minutes of ads from our sponsors.

1033
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 3: People were hung up on the video and how it

1034
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 3: looked when I asked her to take another one. How

1035
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 3: were they not hung up on the fact that she

1036
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,439
Speaker 3: just like busted into your bathroom and took a video

1037
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 3: of you showering. That's insane.

1038
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, why did you have her? Why did she have

1039
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 4: her take another one?

1040
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 3: Because she was like just so like like dumbfound and

1041
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 3: she's like, oh, I don't know, Uh, I guess I

1042
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 3: just I'd take another one where I'm not where I'm

1043
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 3: covered up, and then that's okay, you're freak and we're

1044
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 3: in you know, Uni.

1045
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe she hasn't learned their confrontation skills yet.

1046
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, they didn't interpret that as a plea for self

1047
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 3: preservation or my reaction is fear. They also didn't question

1048
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 3: why they were watching a video of someone in the

1049
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 3: shower who was begging for it to be deleted.

1050
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 2: But in the moment, all I knew was.

1051
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 3: Someone was in my shower pointing a camera at me.

1052
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 3: Do that I would become a fairal beast. I would

1053
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 3: grab that phone and be like, what is wrong with you?

1054
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 3: We're gonna delete this together?

1055
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:22,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would.

1056
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 3: I would have my elbow pressed on that person immediately.

1057
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,959
Speaker 3: I'm like, this is now, You've induced fight or flight

1058
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 3: in me, and I'm fighting. I reacted out of panic

1059
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 3: the best I could, and that's the truth.

1060
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 2: Fast forward.

1061
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,280
Speaker 3: I successfully moved to the country from my abroad program,

1062
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 3: finished school there and started a successful career, got married,

1063
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 3: and have two dogs.

1064
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 2: So all as well for me.

1065
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 3: Not really in need of advice since this was so

1066
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 3: long in the past, but definitely curious if anyone else

1067
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 3: went through something similar or sees it differently.

1068
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 4: I think you have a unique experience there. I know.

1069
00:46:55,800 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 2: I think that what you did was fine and friends suck.

1070
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 2: I hope that you.

1071
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 3: Learned the lesson of maybe being a little more aggressive

1072
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 3: about stuff.

1073
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know you were panicking. It's all right.

1074
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 3: We can we can get we can get mad at people.

1075
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 3: We can demand people do things when they are so

1076
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 3: far out of line.

1077
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 4: Yep.

1078
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 2: But that is the end of that story and the

1079
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 2: end of this episode.

1080
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 6: No, it's not.

1081
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 2: Oh right.

1082
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 5: We have commands moments, we have the big comments from.

1083
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 4: The video my in laws accused me of poisoning my

1084
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:30,439
Speaker 4: husband to steal my son's inheritance, posted on December fourth,

1085
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 4: twenty twenty five and Tilder. This is story one. Opie

1086
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 4: lost her husband suddenly, and while she was grieving and

1087
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 4: caring for their baby, her in laws turned on her.

1088
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 4: They said she wasn't really his wife, tried to erase

1089
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 4: her from the funeral, took his things, kept his car

1090
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 4: and dog, belocked her from his phone, and even spread

1091
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 4: lies that she poisoned him. When Opie proved she was

1092
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 4: his wife and her baby was his child, her mother

1093
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 4: in law still refused to stop and is now dragging

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Speaker 4: OPI through court while demanding s settlement. Opie is fighting

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Speaker 4: to protect her son, her home, and her husband's memory,

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Speaker 4: but the drama keeps getting worse. If you're curious to

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Speaker 4: know the full story, go watch the full video.

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Speaker 6: I do not recall this one.

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Speaker 4: I sound I think I do.

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Speaker 2: Big old hot mess, that's for sure.

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Speaker 6: Well, we have some comments here, comment number one by

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Speaker 6: else Davidson thirty four fifty four. So many parts of

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Speaker 6: his story. I feel like she should have sued from

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Speaker 6: multiple things these people did. I mean sounds like it.

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Speaker 6: That sounds crazy. It sounds like a TV show.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's wild.

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Speaker 2: It certainly is not a the optimal situation.

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Speaker 4: I think that they did sue in this story. I

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Speaker 4: think there's a giant like everybody sued everybody. I would

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Speaker 4: or they at least had to go like a legal

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Speaker 4: route to get things back.

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Speaker 6: Well. We had another comment here by a Kissable star

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Speaker 6: as someone who has experienced immeasurable amounts of loss, I

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Speaker 6: lost my entire family before I hit h thirty five. Wow,

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Speaker 6: people do disgusting things when someone passes away. I started

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Speaker 6: losing people at age twelve. I lost aunts, uncles, grandparents' parents,

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Speaker 6: and my only sibling, all before I was even done

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Speaker 6: having kids. I have multiple horror stories from each and

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Speaker 6: every single one. People want to be perceived as the

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Speaker 6: most hurt and the priority of the person who passed away,

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Speaker 6: or they want to be in charge and they want

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Speaker 6: to take everything they can. This exact story happened to

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Speaker 6: me in reverse. I was my siblings next of kin,

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Speaker 6: but the ex wanted to be in charge and even

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Speaker 6: tried saying they were married, but they weren't. I now

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Speaker 6: do not speak to them because of it. Kissible Star,

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Speaker 6: you deserve a hug.

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Speaker 2: Yeahah, that's really messed up.

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Speaker 3: Hug.

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Speaker 6: We have another comment here by Rachel zero four twenty.

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Speaker 6: Paying thirty thousand dollars for a funeral is the stupidest

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Speaker 6: crap I've ever heard. Other than that, I feel very

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Speaker 6: bad for the wife slash Opie, but she's a more

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Speaker 6: on for letting the funeral costs get out of control?

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Speaker 6: Was it thirty thousand dollars for a funeral?

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Speaker 2: I don't know what normal funeral costs are.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't let us know.

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Speaker 2: How much does it cost dig a hole in my backyard?

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Speaker 4: Well? I think it depends too. It's gonna be like

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Speaker 4: how fancy the casket is.

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Speaker 6: And we have one final comment here by Shortness Fairy saying,

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Speaker 6: not only did the husband's family not pay a dime

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Speaker 6: for their sons slash brother's funeral, but they're taking things

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Speaker 6: from the white Yeah, they just sound like villains.

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Speaker 4: Awful people. Yeah, it's sad that people sometimes use a

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Speaker 4: sad moment to just become the worst people.

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Speaker 3: Ever, to just become little demonic people, little demon greetious.

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Speaker 4: And they actually do that exact thing, and that's how

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Speaker 4: you know.

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Speaker 2: That's how they talk.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so how they talk to each other, talk to me,

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Speaker 3: talk to Miss Stacey.

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Speaker 4: That's the end. That's those comments.

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Speaker 2: And that's the end of that episode.

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Speaker 3: So if you love us, make sure you subscribe We

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