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Speaker 2: Alia snuck me in the All Star Game.

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Speaker 3: Who Ali Fire In two thousand and one when we

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Speaker 3: went to DC because she we all had we had

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Speaker 3: a skybox, we had a sweet. But when we were

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Speaker 3: on the way there, obviously it was right in DC,

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Speaker 3: a bunch of people came down, so it was like, yo,

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Speaker 3: it ain't tickets for everybody, but we got a sweet,

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Speaker 3: so you don't need to be sitting down in the suite,

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Speaker 3: but you need a ticket to get into the building.

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Speaker 3: So we get there and I'm walking and then Alia like, yo,

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Speaker 3: you got a ticket. I was like nah. She was

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Speaker 3: like damn. So what happened was because we all walked

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Speaker 3: up at the same time, they didn't scan him. They

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Speaker 3: just wanted you to show the ticket. So everybody showed

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Speaker 3: the ticket. So I'm standing right behind the list, so

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Speaker 3: she showed her ticket. Dame was standing there with her,

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Speaker 3: and she kind of like did this move right here,

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Speaker 3: and like handing me her ticket back, and.

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Speaker 2: I just flashed the ticket. We all got in and

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Speaker 2: we was just dying.

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Speaker 3: It was about fifty of us in that skybost and

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Speaker 3: it was only like twenty tickets.

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Speaker 2: That's always that's I was just last in the bands

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Speaker 2: in past.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, that was a classic weekend, that weekend

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Speaker 3: in d C.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you always got a story every time you talk

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Speaker 4: about you got a different story from it front.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean before it was Hole taking a girl

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Speaker 2: and we talked about that, but you completely left out

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Speaker 2: that a lea snuck you into the game.

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Speaker 4: And then he also said about he was in a

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Speaker 4: section with Chilling with a Bow Wow that same year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the at the I think the name of the

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Speaker 3: club was Zanzibar in DC at the time, sounds like

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Speaker 3: a juice bar. Now in New England, name of the

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Speaker 3: club was like Zanza Bar or something like that. Nelly

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Speaker 3: was on fire at that time, he was performing. Our

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Speaker 3: hotel was where everybody was staying. The players were staying. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: every party, Yeah, every every artist that was down there

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Speaker 3: were staying there. Like that ship was crazy. That was

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Speaker 3: like definitely one of the best weekends ever.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I'm it's not to make anything morbid,

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Speaker 4: but do you know how beautiful the of a blessing

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Speaker 4: that is that you had that weekend?

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Speaker 5: Six months before Leo Leadye six months later.

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Speaker 3: Six Jesus I was in, We were in, we were

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Speaker 3: together the week before she died in the Hamptons.

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Speaker 2: When we found out she.

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Speaker 3: Died, we was in the Hamptons at the house and

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Speaker 3: it was crazy because like her like in the room,

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Speaker 3: like her lotion, her tall trees, makeup, sneakers was like

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Speaker 3: still in the room.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god. That was freak Oh my god, that.

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Speaker 3: Is yeah, that was like it was just around this

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Speaker 3: getting that call and like like being in the same

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Speaker 3: because it was the summer house in the Hamptons, like

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Speaker 3: and like you could still physically see tailet trees and

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Speaker 3: on MTV. Obviously we knew before MTV announced it. And

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Speaker 3: then my brother, God bless Biggs and Bob. They left,

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Speaker 3: they went back to the city because Dane was just

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Speaker 3: the Hampons and drove back now to the city and

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Speaker 3: we was all just sitting in the house just like

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Speaker 3: this shit can't be real, Like it was the crazy,

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Speaker 3: Like everybody we had the two way pages, so everybody

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Speaker 3: everybody was just in like at the same house literally.

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Speaker 2: The weekend before.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm saying, you know, crazy, like

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Speaker 3: Like that's how crazy of a like eerie feeling that

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Speaker 3: that shit was like what, like this cannot be real?

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Speaker 3: And yeah, it just passed right, yeah, because it was September. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it just passed a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 3: it was like that was damn twenty four years ago.

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Speaker 2: Shit, how much did that like derail everything that was

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Speaker 3: She was part of the crew that was that was

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Speaker 3: She was like the prototypical my girlfriend could hang around

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Speaker 2: She was only what.

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Speaker 3: Twenty one passed. Yeah, man, so it was like everybody

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Speaker 3: was young. Man, it was ship twenty four years ago.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy, but yeah, nah, it was. It was definitely

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Speaker 3: a sad like super That was one of the more dark,

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Speaker 3: sad moments I think I could remember. Obviously when my

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Speaker 3: but Eliah's death because it was so tragic and sudden

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Speaker 3: When you think about it, it was. It was definitely

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Speaker 3: one of the greatest times, but it was. It was

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Speaker 3: definitely a fun a fun moment though, a fun moment

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Speaker 3: in time like those years was definitely a lot of fun,

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Speaker 3: a lot of labs, a lot of good memories. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: definitely some heartbreaking shit though, just thinking about because I

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Speaker 3: remember I thought I was I wanted to talk about

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Speaker 3: that last week, I think when it was the anniversary

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Speaker 3: and it just slipped my mind. But now thinking about it,

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Speaker 3: talking about All Star weekend and Elia's definitely giving me

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Speaker 3: a ticket, sneaking me in the All Star Game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I've always felt like and it may

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Speaker 2: sound like a crazy sentence. But I've always felt like

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Speaker 2: Aleah is the biggie of R and B. The time

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Speaker 2: that she had here, the blueprint that was left for everyone.

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Speaker 2: The current R and B, the what we talk about

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Speaker 2: like everyone now is fucking Dwayne Chief Keith, Like you

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Speaker 2: know that the influences we talk about of how everyone

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Speaker 2: makes music now, her DNA is all over the new

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Speaker 2: wave of R and B. I think it may be

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Speaker 2: the most direct her to everything that R and B

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Speaker 2: she put constructed her actual records. To me, it's all Aliyah, Like,

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Speaker 2: every last bit of it is a Leiyah to me.

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Speaker 2: The whole new wave of R and B, even on

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Speaker 2: the male side, to me, is Aliah.

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Speaker 4: Like yeah, I would, I would say Aliyah and Brandy. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: of course, of course.

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Speaker 2: But even like with modern like even when traditional R

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Speaker 2: et cetera, the wave that came in from Janey on

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Speaker 2: is all Aaliyah. Yeah, every last bit of that is Aaliyah,

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Speaker 2: from the attitude to the look to how you sing,

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Speaker 2: everything to me.

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Speaker 3: Is a Leah Like to me, the funny thing one

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Speaker 3: of the times she had Mariah Scientist reminds me of

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Speaker 3: Lea a lot. Yeah, Like I was listening to her album,

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Speaker 3: listening to her music, like her tone and everything like

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Speaker 3: it gave me Aliyah like that that whole sound in

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Speaker 5: Like it's very soft.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, even on SOS Scissors last project, like it was

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Speaker 2: a little more poppy. But did y'all not get Alia's

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Speaker 2: DNA all over that? That's is a project like sciss

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Speaker 2: is a lead to me, all of them are are

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Speaker 2: very much that where traditional R and B has shifted.

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Speaker 2: I think Aliah was also that for her era, Like

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Speaker 2: she wasn't traditional R and B. She was making something

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Speaker 2: new that was different with Missy and Tim. Yeah, now she.

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Speaker 3: Damn when you think about twenty two years, that is crazy.

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Speaker 2: But that's why I'm saying even with Big like you

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Speaker 2: think about the time we talk about the pocket big Shit,

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Speaker 2: which is an era of what three years, four years?

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Speaker 2: Like Aliyah, obviously she was when age and nothing but

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Speaker 3: She was young, but her SPAM was what four or

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Speaker 3: five years five years maybe maybe five maybe five And

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Speaker 3: look at what she did in that five year shit

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Speaker 3: like it's a it's stamped forever.

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Speaker 2: That's for what you did in five fucking before he

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Speaker 2: was twenty two. It was a fucking idiot at twenty two,

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Speaker 2: I'm an idiot now, that's but like, look at what

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Speaker 3: When I look at pictures of big now, like, it's

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Speaker 3: crazy how I could see exactly how young he was.

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Speaker 3: Like when I look at photos of Biggie right now,

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Speaker 3: He was like you look at pigs. I'm like, you

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Speaker 3: like twenty four years old. Like it's crazy when you

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Speaker 3: think about how young, Like lots like a lot of

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Speaker 3: these drill rappers are older than Biggie was. Hell yeah,

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Speaker 3: when you really think about.

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Speaker 2: That shit, because he was for himself, was twenty five.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's just like when you when I look

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Speaker 2: I'm like, man, he was so young.

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Speaker 2: It's less about like the photo shoots in the videos.

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Speaker 2: When the last Biggie doc on Netflix that I think

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Speaker 2: d Rock provided all like the footage for that's when

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Speaker 2: I watched it and I was an adult, Like that

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Speaker 2: photo shoots can make you look a little different. That video,

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Speaker 2: that raw video footage of like him and d Rock

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Speaker 3: That is a baby right there. Yeah, it's just that

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Speaker 3: I was so young, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Like I was younger than then than he was.

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Speaker 3: But now looking back, it's like I could see it

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Speaker 3: man like. But all of you know, fame and attention

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Speaker 3: and money and things like that, but they was essentially

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Speaker 2: It's wild. You would have to have my my jail

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Speaker 2: call if I found out that you added another last

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Speaker 2: name to my kid speaking of.

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Speaker 5: Future, Oh you're so ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: How am I ridiculous?

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Speaker 4: First of all, he wouldn't have to find out because

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Speaker 4: see her has full custody of her kids. So you

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Speaker 4: I'm sure she told him that it was happening. I'm

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Speaker 4: sure it didn't. And first of all, been happened. It

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Speaker 4: came out a source Closer Sierra, which is probably serious

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Speaker 4: source of the source, Close Serra.

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Speaker 2: Instead it was jazz faith happened.

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Speaker 5: That happened a while ago. We're just now privy to it.

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Speaker 5: But that happened a while ago, and that it was

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Speaker 5: just added honest, not that it.

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Speaker 2: Was an Instagram name. It's not a she didn't show

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Speaker 4: I think no, I think it's official that like that

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Speaker 2: Oh nae no, but see I did.

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Speaker 4: Okay you fighting just to fight? Were podcasting right now?

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Speaker 2: Whose podcast you are? We podcast? Bottom off you? Heal's heart.

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Speaker 4: He's a father, okay, fucking crazy, Okay, he's an active father.

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Speaker 4: He has he takes. If anybody was gonna have full

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Speaker 5: It would be you.

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Speaker 2: I don't like. I don't even like the determined active

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Speaker 4: That baby lives twenty four to seven with his stepdad

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Speaker 4: on what's wrong with that adopted?

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Speaker 2: He got two parents? What do you need? People?

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Speaker 5: You can still get adopted even when you I.

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Speaker 2: Know there's Those are the videos that made me cry

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Speaker 2: the most. But it's not the same circumstance of two

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Speaker 5: Why isn't it if one isn't one is taking full

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Speaker 2: If again, this is other people's kids that we don't

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Speaker 2: I mean I get the stepdad. I think stepdads are important.

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Speaker 2: I think it's healthy for that entire thing. But adding

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Speaker 2: I mean, we tried everything to find.

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Speaker 4: This that's changing the last name. She did not change it.

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Speaker 4: She added one on because something that people brought one up.

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Speaker 4: And again we don't know these people's speculation. Something that

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Speaker 4: the household has the same last name, his brothers, his sisters, whatever, and.

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Speaker 2: He goes seventy five brothers and sisters with different last names.

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Speaker 5: Okay, but that's not his immediate family Rory, and.

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Speaker 2: So she added WI his immediate families.

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Speaker 5: She added Wilson on.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so he still has his dad's name.

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Speaker 5: Yes, there's literally nothing wrong with that.

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Speaker 2: There's literally oh sure, No, I think outside looking in,

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Speaker 2: it's a very healthy co parenting situation with what they're doing.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, I'm saying, okay, so he in the way,

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Speaker 2: another last name is being added.

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Speaker 3: He still has futures last like word, We're okay, he

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Speaker 3: still has futures last name. He just added to Wilson.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 4: Respect, people have been people have been talking about that

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Speaker 2: What I say, some real ignorance say it the same

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Speaker 2: about the cold thing. If I ever hear future rapping

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Speaker 2: ounce of a violent lyric, I don't believe you.

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Speaker 6: Everybody dying, You're just because everybody's dying, You're ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: The mom is married, she's she's married to congrats, that's amazing.

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Speaker 2: What that got to do with.

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Speaker 4: My son has full custody of her child, full full custody.

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Speaker 2: You know what full custody is.

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Speaker 5: I okay.

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Speaker 4: That means I don't even got to ask if his

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Speaker 4: I don't even ask his daddy to take.

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Speaker 5: Him out of the country.

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Speaker 4: I have full custody of my kids because I'm the

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Speaker 4: only one taking care of this motherfucker. You no longer

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Speaker 4: have a say. You keep speaking from an active dad's perspective.

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Speaker 4: You're speaking from this perpective of an act that's all.

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Speaker 2: I'm okay, So.

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Speaker 5: Then you can't speak on that situation period.

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Speaker 3: I'm asking you because I don't know Future is not

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Speaker 5: Sure he has a relationship with his kid.

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Speaker 4: But when another one, when you give the mother full custody,

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Speaker 2: There's plenty of active father there's real fathers where the

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Speaker 5: Though that's usually joint.

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Speaker 4: That's usually joint custody that they usually have joint custody.

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Speaker 4: Full custody is not just I live with you full

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Speaker 3: They have joint custody legally, m M.

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Speaker 2: That's what this is. AB say, AI be wrong sometimes.

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Speaker 3: But the future but some lives primarily with Sierra.

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Speaker 5: When it says, what is co parenting like for you?

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Speaker 4: When somebody I remember that interview, somebody asked Sierra at

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Speaker 4: Sierra just started laughing.

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Speaker 3: See I don't know what that. I hate when women

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Speaker 3: do that because I laugh. Sierra answered, talk no laugh,

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Speaker 3: you can laugh, but then like answer the question.

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Speaker 4: But I think I think Sierra was trying to be

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Speaker 4: when they asked, I respect that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she she she definitely does a great job of that.

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Speaker 3: She doesn't she doesn't end up in a lot of mess.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean I think they have joint custody.

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Speaker 3: She's never present, prevented her son from seeing his dad,

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Speaker 3: like but that.

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Speaker 5: Is But again again I don't know.

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Speaker 4: The source came out and said Sieric got full of custody,

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Speaker 4: and I don't sources like that.

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Speaker 2: Though, usually just polish. Wilson is thirty four.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's young. Remember he's young.

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Speaker 2: He's young, He's he's considered a dinosaur in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: It's like, when's this old fuck gonna retire? Rus thirty four,

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Speaker 3: I thought he got drafted. Oh he's thirty six. That's

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Speaker 2: I thought I thought he got drafted at thirty six.

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Speaker 3: Really, I thought Russell Wilson was closer to forty than thirty.

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Speaker 3: I thought he was way closer to forty than thirty six.

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Speaker 5: Sierra's thirty nine. He's thirty six.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Sierra's thirty nine. That makes sense? Wow, Okay?

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Speaker 2: Do we hove an apology for what future?

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Speaker 3: Got?

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Speaker 2: Got real bent out of shape with that that bar

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Speaker 2: and killed jay Z. It appeared to be some prophecy there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, over that that right.

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Speaker 2: He got you crashed out and it was it was right. Well,

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Speaker 2: I mean I don't. I mean, whatever's healthier for the kid. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And if listen, Russell Wilson stepped up, you know, he

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Speaker 3: obviously Sierra obviously married, So you know, if Sierra wants

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Speaker 3: Wilson added to Wilburn, so be it. Man, as long

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Speaker 3: as as long as the you know, as long as

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Speaker 3: the child is raised will love and it looks like

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Speaker 3: he is.

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Speaker 2: It looks like all right, But which one goes last?

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Speaker 5: I think Wilson is that thing?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Wilson, because the Sierra's last name now is Wilson

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Speaker 2: Nah, he mean, nah, you got it. Gotta be Wilson Wilburn.

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Speaker 2: If we're going to add this into the mix, at

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Speaker 2: least my last name needs to be the last one.

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Speaker 3: Okay. I mean, if that's how you feel, you know,

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Speaker 3: you're a real dad. I can't argue with you on that,

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Speaker 3: you know, I mean, so.

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Speaker 2: What I mean? And ship the way the way we

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Speaker 2: see Russell playing with Future, like and we know the

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Speaker 2: Future is a tall guy that looks like he comes

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Speaker 2: from a eight gene pool. Little Future could make the league.

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Speaker 2: What happens when will Burn Wilson is on the back

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Speaker 2: of the jersey like that's gonna fly off the stands

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Speaker 2: mm hmm, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well it's gonna fly off the stand because of the

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Speaker 3: Wilson or what happens when and who is stepdad?

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Speaker 2: But what happens if Sierra does like a chair choreography

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Speaker 2: dance with her son's jersey and it just says Wilson

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Speaker 2: on the back.

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Speaker 3: What that's her last name?

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Speaker 2: No, but it's his jersey. She's wearing her her son's jersey.

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Speaker 3: Okay, everyone's dying.

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Speaker 4: I feel Listen, man, I look at what I just

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Speaker 5: It's so ego driven. That's completely ego driven.

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Speaker 2: What is ego driven everything? Of course I'm joking around,

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Speaker 2: but like, what is ego driven with it?

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Speaker 5: That's not ego driven?

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Speaker 4: You don't think that you worried about yo, my son's

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Speaker 4: last name when you are not there every day with

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Speaker 5: Somebody else is?

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Speaker 2: You're that word? My name is my name. My name

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Speaker 2: has my my daddy's blood on it, like my daddy's

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Speaker 2: blood on it. Nothing is more important than your last name,

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Speaker 2: your leg see your family.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it doesn't be more important than name, your legacy.

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Speaker 4: What about your son that you don't have full time,

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Speaker 4: that you'd rather run around?

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Speaker 2: You and I are talking futures not in the room.

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Speaker 2: I don't know future. I don't know he does with son.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you why you think I think that would

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Speaker 2: be crazy? Yeah, that's nuts to me. And first of all,

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Speaker 2: I'm also someone that was fine, like even with Kia.

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Speaker 2: If you want to lipeh and that ship and say,

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Speaker 2: Jacob Fair I'm fine with that, but adding somebody else

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Speaker 2: in the mix with a name, No, the name means something, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: It means something. The person that sit him there.

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Speaker 2: Rate, I got a tattoo like an idiot at fourteen

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Speaker 2: years old. My family crest because that's just what you

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Speaker 2: did because you didn't like I forget my last name

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Speaker 2: for some reason. But yeah, that shit is very much important, though,

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Speaker 4: And it's still there exactly like I was. Just the confusion,

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Speaker 4: Like the confusion is so crazy. Peace said, you can

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Speaker 2: I'm saying future is not in this room. We don't

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Speaker 2: know him. I'm talking you and I like to me, yes,

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Speaker 2: I would have okay what I'm saying, and we also

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Speaker 2: don't know. I don't putt anything on Sierra. I'm sure

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Speaker 2: there's from plenty of times where there's been women that

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Speaker 2: gotten a new relationship. Like, let's not act like all

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Speaker 5: Okay, but we weren't talking about that. We were about

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Speaker 2: I know, I.

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Speaker 3: Don't know anything about it. They're not with their child,

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Speaker 2: That's why I was saying off with Page said you

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Speaker 2: also women that have had children with good fathers that

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Speaker 2: they keep away from their kid. For sure, get a

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Speaker 2: new relationship. I'm gonna just spite you and add this

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Speaker 3: For sure?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, yeah, But how like to me, playing with last

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Speaker 4: it's just like, yes, there are I'm sure there's women

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Speaker 4: how often does that really happen? You're really a great dad,

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Speaker 4: They want to keep their kid twenty four to seven

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Speaker 4: and be a single mom and had his bad motherfucker

440
00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,480
Speaker 4: living in this house with me twenty four to seven,

441
00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,399
Speaker 4: But you're such a great dad, they won't give them

442
00:19:58,440 --> 00:19:58,600
Speaker 4: to you.

443
00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:00,719
Speaker 5: How often do you like that really happened?

444
00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,560
Speaker 2: Let's let's talk about the rapper from Atlanta that put

445
00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,600
Speaker 2: nobody on his verse on Donda Andre three thousand, Hey,

446
00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:08,680
Speaker 2: miss Donda, can you ask my father if he felt

447
00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,040
Speaker 2: insecured that he did in my last name? My mama

448
00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:15,480
Speaker 2: probably did it out of spite. It happens all the time,

449
00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:19,280
Speaker 2: Like what do we He literally rapped about a healthy

450
00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,000
Speaker 2: relationship of just young people having a kid and out

451
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,800
Speaker 2: of spite because she was in her feelings and a

452
00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:25,879
Speaker 2: young lady that didn't know what she was doing was

453
00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,200
Speaker 2: mad at the dad. His dad's last name is not Benjamin,

454
00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,480
Speaker 2: that's his mother's last name. Okay, but that probably did

455
00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:32,800
Speaker 2: it out of spite. But that's okay.

456
00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,280
Speaker 4: We're talking about him having his mother's last name, not

457
00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:39,000
Speaker 4: another man's last name, or keeping away from keeping the

458
00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,360
Speaker 4: kid away from his dad. We're talking about a last name.

459
00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:45,320
Speaker 2: I'm saying, people, not just women, do things out of spite,

460
00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,280
Speaker 2: and the last name is a big thing.

461
00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:48,639
Speaker 5: Yes, oh, but that was.

462
00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:50,680
Speaker 3: One thing.

463
00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:55,240
Speaker 2: I'm purposely giving my son my last name even though

464
00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,399
Speaker 2: my father is active right here. But she's doing it

465
00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,360
Speaker 2: out of spite, but because they are in a rocky relationship.

466
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,520
Speaker 4: Okay, just because Andre said that on a song also

467
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,520
Speaker 4: does not mean that that's just that because also, if

468
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,119
Speaker 4: we're not example, if we're not married, why does my

469
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 4: son have your last name? In not mind, why does

470
00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,280
Speaker 4: your Why is your last name more important that my

471
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 4: son who I pushed out of my pussy should have

472
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:15,760
Speaker 4: a different last name than.

473
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:16,639
Speaker 2: Me because of misogyny?

474
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,000
Speaker 5: Exactly? Cool, yeah, but exactly.

475
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,480
Speaker 2: But Andre in two thousand didn't say okay, because the

476
00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,160
Speaker 2: world has been misogynistic since the day of time. He said,

477
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 2: you probably did that fight. Yeah, because you know I'm

478
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,240
Speaker 2: with you. That's why I even I even said the kid,

479
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:31,880
Speaker 2: if you want to do the hyphenis shit. Like there

480
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 2: was one kid in my school that had the hyphenic thing,

481
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:35,720
Speaker 2: and we all thought he was a fucking weirdo. But

482
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,000
Speaker 2: you know, that kid usually ends up weird that has

483
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:42,920
Speaker 2: the hyphen. But I'm here for the hyphena. I'm not

484
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 2: the kid with the hyphen ends up a little weird.

485
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 2: It's very I feel like we could find out. I

486
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 2: feel like it's a study on that somewhere. I feel

487
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:55,480
Speaker 2: like but because I do agree that a lot of

488
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,560
Speaker 2: that is based off ancient misogyny where the father just

489
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,200
Speaker 2: did last name goes to the kid I always here

490
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 2: for the Heysen kid was like, Noah, Marshall, just have

491
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,919
Speaker 2: your last name. But I was, I was open to it.

492
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 2: I was definitely not against it at all.

493
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 5: My kid will have a hyphen whether I'm married.

494
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,439
Speaker 2: I respect that, matter of fact. I don't know if

495
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have more kid have a hyphen.

496
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:15,919
Speaker 5: Whether I'm married or not.

497
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 4: My kids, even if I get married, my name, my

498
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,920
Speaker 4: last name will be hyphenated. So my last name means

499
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,640
Speaker 4: a lot to me, A lot to me. I never

500
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,120
Speaker 4: said last names don't matter. Rory, you're being up teas

501
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 4: on purpose. I never said last names didn't matter. My

502
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 4: last name means a lot to me. So I'm hyphenating regardless.

503
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:34,879
Speaker 4: But I've dealt with men that were like, I'm not

504
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:36,920
Speaker 4: with that, and I was, didn't plan on marrying you anyway,

505
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,720
Speaker 4: But some men don't like that, which is just so

506
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,919
Speaker 4: it's all just ego based to me, Like, my kid

507
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 4: will have my last name, yeah, so will mine. It

508
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,919
Speaker 4: will have my last name too. My grandfather put a

509
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 4: name on my last name, and so to his parents.

510
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 4: So like, yeah, my ship means a lot to me.

511
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 5: It can be.

512
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if I want to have more kids.

513
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 2: Most of my cousins are are, so I have a girl,

514
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 2: so like the Pharaoh, leg to see at least in

515
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 2: this part of the tree, like may end. So yeah, Amara,

516
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:10,120
Speaker 2: you hyphen in that ship exactly that I just swear

517
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 2: I'm at with I think.

518
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 3: I just want kids to be happy and healthy.

519
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 2: Man, it's about you. It's not about the kids. It's

520
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 2: about that. It's about how you feel.

521
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 5: Young boy blowing up? Man, young, Well he been.

522
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 4: Blew up, but like he's starting to young boy blowing up.

523
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 4: That's why I corrected myself. He's entering into my old

524
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 4: ass stratosphere of old people ship right, who's still playing

525
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 4: the clips all over and over again, like he's starting

526
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 4: to go.

527
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 5: Viral over here. I'm like, damn. Like nb A Young

528
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 5: Boys shows.

529
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 3: Look lit like oh no, it's it's it shows like a.

530
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 2: Real rold fan base. But I do like seeing this

531
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 2: because a lot of people, including myself, say, all right,

532
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,239
Speaker 2: you stream crazier than everyone. Can you sell it to it?

533
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 2: Not only is he selling crazy, everyone knows every fucking word.

534
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 2: They're losing their mind. Kai is crying like my bad. Yeah.

535
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 3: Seeing NBA Young Boys Show is definitely like confirmation that

536
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 3: I'm just old. I don't know one NBA young boy

537
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,919
Speaker 3: like no song, and like I'm watching the clips and

538
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, I love the like seeing the entire like

539
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 3: stadium arena, everybody into it, everybody knowing. But it's kind

540
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 3: of like I'm looking at this, You're like, oh, this

541
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 3: is a whole part of the culture that I have

542
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 3: no idea. You look like the jay Z mean when

543
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,199
Speaker 3: he was like yeah, like I'm because he getting his

544
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 3: shit off, like he flowing, and I'm just like and

545
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 3: I'm looking at you know, just the audience and everybody

546
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:40,880
Speaker 3: knows all the lyrics and things like that, and I'm

547
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 3: just like, the energy is what is a trip? I'm like, oh, shit,

548
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 3: like this is a show. If you go out on

549
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 3: stage as an artist, it is your own. It's it's

550
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,640
Speaker 3: just like there's nothing probably greater than looking out into

551
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 3: a fucking arena and everybody knows every word you're saying,

552
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 3: Like that's an artist's dream, you know what I'm saying.

553
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,159
Speaker 3: So to see that and to see everybody so like

554
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,399
Speaker 3: just turned up and you know what I'm saying that

555
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 3: somebody from there, it's like, Okay, like this is this

556
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 3: is a show. This is These are like his fans,

557
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 3: like people that have been waiting to see him live.

558
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 3: They couldn't wait for this moment, They couldn't wait for

559
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 3: this tour to come to this city. Like this is

560
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 3: what hip hop is about. Like rapper comes on stage,

561
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 3: everybody goes crazy. Nobody's trying to be you know, cool,

562
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 3: Everybody standing on their seats, shirts.

563
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 2: Off, rapping.

564
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 3: The girls know all the lyrics, the guys know all

565
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 3: the lyrics. Like that, to me is just some incredible

566
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 3: shit to witness.

567
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 5: But so going. I don't like we should go as

568
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 5: a social experiment.

569
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's the social experiment though. I

570
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 3: don't know if you want a socially experiment with an

571
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 3: NBA Young Boy live show. I am like, you get

572
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 3: chased out because they I feel like his fans know

573
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,439
Speaker 3: you ain't supposed to be here. This ain't you Like,

574
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 3: we don't try to jump on now like we've been.

575
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 3: This has been a whole way. Obviously, I'm familiar with

576
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 3: NBA Young Boy. I don't know his music the way

577
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 3: his fans you know it, but I'm familiar with the

578
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 3: fan base that he has. I'm familiar with the following

579
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 3: that he has and the streaming numbers that he does,

580
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 3: Like we all know that, but to now see it,

581
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,120
Speaker 3: like night after night, he.

582
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 2: Just did LA last night. Kyle was there, Kay is crying.

583
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 2: I'm just seeing this shit. I'm just like, Yo, what

584
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 2: is happening right now? I'm curious based off the sound

585
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 2: of stuff, Like, for example, when we saw Gucci versus Geezi,

586
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 2: and we saw the difference Gucci being the legend that

587
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 2: he is a lot of his legendary records were never mixed.

588
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 2: They was thrown out like Geezi had def jam behind

589
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,440
Speaker 2: him with the biggest budget. His records just feel expensive.

590
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 2: They sound expensive. The Gucci shit didn't hit the same.

591
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 2: Next to that, I've never seen an arena to a

592
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 2: Young Boys volume, like how much he puts out. Some

593
00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 2: of his most classic records are like two track shit

594
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 2: that I don't even know how it could sound an arena.

595
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 2: Yet when I see the footage, it looks like fucking

596
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 2: J Cole's performing. That's what I want to see, Like,

597
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,360
Speaker 2: how are these records transferring in a arena? I've never

598
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 2: seen anyone do that. J want Young Boy, the type

599
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 2: of music he makes, and even some of the classic

600
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 2: core fan based records he has are so low quality.

601
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about him, but they're low quality records.

602
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 2: You can tell you Two Tractor was like, Yo, upload

603
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 2: that to the internet now, I would love, Like, I

604
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 2: want to know how that rings off in an arena,

605
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 2: because even Gucci, Gucci has classic shit, but even though

606
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 2: just on a stream next to Jez with an expensive sound,

607
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 2: it's like, damn, this is a classic GZ record, but

608
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 2: it don't hit because it's just don't sound the same

609
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 2: next to this.

610
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 3: And then in the state in an arena.

611
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, I gotta know how that sounds.

612
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 3: All that shit from Young Boy sound looks like it's

613
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 3: going off. I love seeing people online saying, Yo, if

614
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 3: you don't perform this one'ma I'm gonna be upset. Like

615
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 3: all of that to me is just dope to see

616
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 3: people so engaged with an artist like that. And then

617
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 3: for NBA Young Boy to go out there and you know,

618
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 3: it seems like he's you know, he's fulfilling the request. Yeah,

619
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 3: he's doing all the joints that you know his fans

620
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 3: want they hear. I just think this is some really,

621
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 3: really dope shit to watch.

622
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 2: Josh. I'm sending you to viral TikTok. That's like going

623
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 2: on right now.

624
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 4: With this girl that has like everybody like, well damn,

625
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 4: I want to go to the NBA show. And that's

626
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 4: the one that made me want to go to the

627
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 4: NBA show. I'm like, yo, I want to feel this

628
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 4: passionately about music, like they screaming that shit like when

629
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 4: the first month that like Dreams of Nightmares came out.

630
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 4: I'm like, I want to feel that feeling again. I

631
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 4: want to feel that, bitch, I'm a boss feeling again.

632
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 4: The niggas in Paris feeling like I haven't had that.

633
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 2: Feeling, a wow, a connection to it because they live

634
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 2: through the time of Yes, that's what I'm saying.

635
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 3: We can't go because it's like we would just be

636
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 3: trying to get on board now and it's kind of

637
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 3: like we're not gonna understand it.

638
00:28:47,880 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 1: We need some time to really like I mean, it

639
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: sounds far.

640
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:06,959
Speaker 7: That looks that sounds fun out of this too, all right,

641
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 7: positive before we get demond size, But come on, man,

642
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 7: how do you know that ship sounds fire to me?

643
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 2: I can't like I want to go with her, yeah,

644
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 2: like I want to go with somebody that's gonna like

645
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 2: wrap those lyrics in my face. So I start to

646
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 2: feel like this is this is See.

647
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 3: That's why I know I'm saying close to your chest

648
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 3: because you know how I'm at shows. I'm just standing there,

649
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 3: literally just watching the artist perform. I'm not you've been

650
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 3: to meeting to me with with Drake shows, you like,

651
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 3: you're just standing there and I know all these records.

652
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 2: I don't know all of these records.

653
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 3: I'm really gonna be listening, standing there watching Young Boy perform,

654
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 3: and I can't go with somebody that knows and they

655
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 3: hyped and they trying to get me.

656
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't even know what he's saying.

657
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's fake if I go because I don't

658
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 3: even know these these songs like that. So some of them,

659
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 3: I'm like, I might know a couple of the balls,

660
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 3: like Okay, yeah, I remember that ball right there. But

661
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 3: these people are, like you said, Roy, they grew up

662
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 3: with this shit, they lived with this music. They couldn't

663
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 3: wait for Young Boy to come to their city, like

664
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 3: they've been waiting for this moment for years. So now

665
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 3: that's here, I just think it's dope to see it

666
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 3: and shout out the young boy Man, because you know,

667
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 3: being able to develop a fan base like this in

668
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 3: all these years of curating this, this this sound for

669
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 3: your for your audience, and now being able to go

670
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 3: to these cities and set out these arenas is it's

671
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 3: some dope shit. So saluting be a young boy man, I'm.

672
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 5: Gonna check it out.

673
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 4: I feel like I've always judged him by the way

674
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 4: he looked mm hmm.

675
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 2: Like I mean he looked like every other.

676
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.

677
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 4: That's why I don't listen to them. If I don't

678
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 4: I met you, he looked like who else?

679
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 2: A bunch of artists who listen to it's the same

680
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 2: look who the match?

681
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 4: You listen to ratchets shit, not men that I listen

682
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 4: to women, ratiss shit. I don't listen to men ration shit.

683
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 4: I don't know none of this ship, none these people.

684
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 4: If I will meet you in a dark alley and

685
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 4: you look like I should be afraid of you, like

686
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 4: I should cross the street, I don't really check your

687
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 4: music out.

688
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 5: I don't know, and I shouldn't do that.

689
00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 4: I should be better, which is why I'm going to

690
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 4: check out some of NBA's and music.

691
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 5: I don't be.

692
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 4: Listening to these these rappers with the be the tattoos,

693
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 4: the shit on their face like that.

694
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 5: I don't listen to that.

695
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 3: You listen to Wayne.

696
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 4: I was just about to say, Okay, Wayne, the original,

697
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 4: the creator, right, but these new ones know, Hey.

698
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 2: Y'all don't either.

699
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 5: Why am I looking at me like I'm crazy?

700
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 2: Oh no, I've tried. You aware that he has been

701
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 2: a superstar in his own right with his fan base

702
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 2: for a long time. I've seen the numbers I've tried.

703
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 2: I've done the jay Z headbop like pretending like I

704
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 2: think this is all right, but I'm never gonna listen

705
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 2: to again. But I need somebody like that girl to

706
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 2: sell it to me with the green hair. What's what's

707
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 2: what's worse with the concert going with somebody that's way

708
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 2: too cool, like Maul bringing up the Drake Show when

709
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 2: he was there, or for example, Deanni Scotti beam love

710
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 2: you to death. Every Cold Show I go to with her,

711
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 2: she's wrapping every fucking word in my face the entire.

712
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 5: I was insane at the Cold Show. I was insuffering.

713
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 2: Because I I feed energy. It makes it feel a

714
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 2: little bit better. Like sometimes I'll wrap back with her.

715
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 3: I get mad if I'm in the car and somebody's

716
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 3: rapping the whole song.

717
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 2: Car, that's too much. So now show loud enough where

718
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 2: you can show.

719
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 3: If we have to show and you keep you keep

720
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 3: jumping in my ear and my face trying to get balls,

721
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 3: it's work. It's like, Yo, shut the fuck. Artist is

722
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 3: right here in front of us, like let them do that.

723
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 3: You shut you shut up.

724
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 2: That was a cole. I was talking, but you wrapped

725
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,479
Speaker 2: along at a concert before. No, I'm not saying screaming

726
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 2: is someone's face, but but I'm not grabbing you trying

727
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 2: to like.

728
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 4: Get you like, but to that type of show, that's

729
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 4: what you gotta do.

730
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 3: At this show. You gotta punch somebody in their face. Yeah,

731
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 3: like you've got Yeah, you gotta punch somebody in their.

732
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 2: Face for interest. It's like a jello.

733
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is this is That's just what this is.

734
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 3: But it's it's it's dope to see it, man, it's

735
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 3: definitely dope to see it. I know he did l

736
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 3: A last night. I think I'm not sure what else

737
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 3: is going, but yo.

738
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 2: I gotta, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta I got.

739
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 3: A download more NBA Young Boy Music and learn and

740
00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,719
Speaker 3: learn the music more so I can before I can

741
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 3: go to a live show. I can't just go out

742
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 3: there and not knowing. I gotta know the music. I

743
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 3: have to know to me.

744
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 4: Coming to Newark on September twenty ninth, All Mall's birthday.

745
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 4: We're not your actual birthday, but your birthday weekend.

746
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 2: Yeah no, No, I would have considered the Garden or Barclays. Oh,

747
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 2: Barclays seven, closer to the Prudential Center twenty seventh.

748
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, the yo, the Jersey crowd, the Jersey young boy crowd. Good,

749
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 6: that is getting the most terrifying year, the New York

750
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 6: show compared to the Garden Show, which by the way,

751
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 6: is twenty minutes away from each other.

752
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 2: It is going to be two different worlds. No, I'm

753
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 2: cool world.

754
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 4: I'm going to the Morning in Brooklyn. I promise you,

755
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 4: I'm not going to the one in Newark.

756
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 5: You bug the fuck out. It was not like in Newark.

757
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 5: I'm cool.

758
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 2: If you're gonna experience it, maybe the New York one

759
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 2: is the one. Yeah, but I gotta get the real film.

760
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 2: But they're gonna shoot outside that ship. Yeah, Newark cool.

761
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 2: I feel like I got a wish.

762
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 3: I usty if I go though, I got but.

763
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 2: Then you gonna be like everybody else, gotta stand out.

764
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 3: Nah, nah, you gotta you gotta blend. I have to

765
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 3: blend in. Where's wear a suit for the NBA Young

766
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 3: Boy Show? They will beat the ship.

767
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 2: Out of the record.

768
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 3: First of all, they're gonna think I'm a nark? And

769
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 3: what is police a suit at the NBA Young Boys Show? Though?

770
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 2: Now you can't dress like we're going to the GZ

771
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 2: Orchestra show. No, absolutely, no, that's fine. No, it's not.

772
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 2: I promise you it was not.

773
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 3: Nah.

774
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,439
Speaker 2: I feel like your NBA Young Boy Show should change

775
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 2: the rules for arenas. I should be able to walk

776
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 2: in with no shirt. This people isn't there with no

777
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 2: shirts on?

778
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 6: Well?

779
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 2: They they walked in with a shirt on. They took

780
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 2: it off after. Oh I'm saying I should be able

781
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 2: to show up with no shirt at all. I mean,

782
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 2: you know, as young.

783
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 4: Boy ever like once a little high.

784
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 2: Oh, I thought that was a total aesthetic.

785
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 3: It's your shirtless No, he wear wearing some shit on stage.

786
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure at some point you might take

787
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 3: your shirt off and really get into the you know night,

788
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 3: but it's just dope to see it man, all all

789
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,280
Speaker 3: the clips I'm saying is the energy is I haven't

790
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 3: seen bro. I'm not gonna lie. That type of energy

791
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 3: is crazy for the entire arena.

792
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 2: To you know how hard is to sell tickets period

793
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 2: right now, let alone in arena. But you know that

794
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 2: type of clip.

795
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

796
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:07,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

797
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 3: And then, like I said, his fan base is very

798
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 3: they've been waiting for this ship. They've been way couldn't

799
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 3: wait for this tour.

800
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 2: And you know they're dedicated fans because then I'm not

801
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 2: going to get into everyone makes mistakes, but I feel

802
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 2: like every other month I'm seeing some wild ship the

803
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 2: young boy is doing like those are He could do anything,

804
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 2: the fact how he's moved on certain things, or how

805
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 2: the Internet has painted him and you could still sell

806
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 2: out arenas this way. Yeah, they love your music, Philly,

807
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 2: I'd rather die. Yeah, Philly would be kind of nuts.

808
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 5: He signed a motown Well, I mean it merged.

809
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,240
Speaker 2: They all merged. It's musical chairs. Mmm, like he didn't

810
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 2: he didn't sign to the same motown. No ship, Oh

811
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 2: he was in Oakland.

812
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 3: That wasn't even La, that was Oakland last Uh but

813
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 3: what dates is that? That's no, He's in Oakland tonight.

814
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well tomorrow, Okay. He was in La last

815
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 3: night though.

816
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 2: Okay, on the low, I think the Phoenix show might

817
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 2: be the scariest because I know the Mexicans love Young

818
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 2: Boy mm hmm, that might be. It would rivele between

819
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 2: Nork and Phoenix of the scariest shows on the store.

820
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 3: Scroll that.

821
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 2: Oh no, Lewis and Chicago might wait hold Saint Louis

822
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 2: for sure. Baltimore, I don't know.

823
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 4: I'm not going to no NBA Young Boys show in Baltimore.

824
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 2: I'm cool, I'm cool.

825
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 3: Oh no, that's Chicago. One's scary because he had b

826
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 3: for Chicago like he had beef for Dirky.

827
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah yeah.

828
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 3: So yeah man, Hopefully you know, I mean hopefully nothing happens.

829
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,240
Speaker 3: We don't want to get no news about anything negative

830
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 3: or crazy happening because seeing this type of energy is

831
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 3: just dope to see people go out and support their artists.

832
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 3: But we know the history of him and certain Chicago artists.

833
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 5: So yeah, I don't know nobody from that side. From

834
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 5: what side and be a young boys side?

835
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 2: Listen. I told you when I went to bat and

836
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 2: Rouge a couple of months ago, and she told me

837
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 2: this young boyshood, I said, could we just not be here? Then?

838
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 2: We was drivers where you're from. I was like, well,

839
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 2: let's then let's take a left and the left and

840
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 2: get the fuck out of here. You scared?

841
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, you thought, I say, no, nigga.

842
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 2: Actually we walk around with the assault rifles just out

843
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:32,959
Speaker 2: like it ain't even illegal. Yeah, years and I could.

844
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 2: I want to learn. I want to go now now

845
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,240
Speaker 2: the prime. I want to go now music.

846
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 3: It's fake if I go now. I don't know the

847
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 3: music enough.

848
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 4: But that's okay, do you actually people? A lot of

849
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 4: people tend to go to shows to learn new music.

850
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 4: You don't got to go to the show and know

851
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 4: every song.

852
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 2: You got to know the music. Man. That's like going

853
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 2: to the game and not knowing who playing. I don't

854
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 2: know what you discover.

855
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 4: You discover songs because a lot of songs you might

856
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 4: put on, like in your headphones and be like turn

857
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 4: this ship off right. But you go to the show

858
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 4: and you see shorty degree here doing all I just like, wait,

859
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 4: hold on, what's this song? Let me That's why you're

860
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 4: supposed to go check out new shows, local artists, all

861
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 4: of that stuff.

862
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 2: They're sitting at the Young Boys show in the mash pit,

863
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,919
Speaker 2: trying to hold your phone up for shazam. Yeah, they're

864
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 2: gonna knock you out. Who's who know.

865
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 3: I would be in the figure out. I would be

866
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 3: in the skybox one. Put me in a suite. Let

867
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 3: me just chill up here, look down at you know,

868
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 3: the real fans. I want to hear the music and

869
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 3: see the performance, like, let me. I can't beat in that.

870
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 2: I need to touch the face. Nah, I can't be

871
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 2: in that. What's the most dangerous show You've ever been to?

872
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:37,720
Speaker 3: The most dangerous show I've ever been to, even.

873
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 2: If it turned out that way and you didn't anticipate.

874
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 3: It, the most dangerous show.

875
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:45,479
Speaker 5: I've never been to a dangerous show.

876
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 3: I feel like it may have been somebody at Irvin Plaza, but.

877
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 5: Not that oh the Nipsey Ulso one Walter Crips in

878
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 5: the building.

879
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 2: But I felt safe. This was in New York, Irvin Plaza, Okay, Yeah,

880
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:01,399
Speaker 2: like it was. I can't remember who.

881
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 5: It was, though I felt safe though.

882
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 3: I feel like it was Irvin Plaza, Okay, might have been.

883
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 2: I was in there.

884
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 3: I remember having a feeling like, yeah, the energy in

885
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 3: here is a little it's a little tense, but never

886
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 3: in like, never at the Garden.

887
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 2: I never been to that show with the Garden where

888
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 2: I thought that. Well, I mean you did say you

889
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 2: were in the hallway when R. Kelly walked down and

890
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 2: violence ensued. You say I was kind of dangerous.

891
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 3: There was a gun there, said he didn't want nobody

892
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 3: looking at him in his eyes, and.

893
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 2: Then somebody allegedly put pepper spray in his eyes. Yeah,

894
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 2: but that wasn't dangerous. That was R and B. That

895
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 2: wasn't like dangerous. I mean, speaking of Newark and Jersey

896
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 2: in general, Hot ninety seven once did remember wh they

897
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 2: used to do those like Next Up or Whose Next? Shows,

898
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 2: which I appreciate. They was trying to get like local talent,

899
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 2: and they did one that was just specific to Jersey

900
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,439
Speaker 2: with a bunch of Jersey acts. I want to say

901
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 2: Tretch hosted it as well. That was the most violent

902
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 2: show I think I've ever been that, Like, they rivaled

903
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 2: what when Saigon Prodigy and all the Queensbridge fought at

904
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 2: Sobs with that legendary footage. There was so much tension

905
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 2: in that small, small fucking venue. Yeah, that was probably

906
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 2: the one time been a show where I'm like I

907
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:23,439
Speaker 2: don't know if this is worth worth staying here, Like, yeah,

908
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 2: I'll be a bystander somehow in this entire show, I.

909
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 3: Can't remember who was at Irvin Plaza, Like who was

910
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 3: It may have been Meeking somebody else. And I was like, yeah,

911
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 3: this energy and it was just a little you know,

912
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 3: you know that energy where it's just like the faces

913
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:44,399
Speaker 3: ain't friendly, nobody smiling. It's not a lot of women.

914
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 2: You know those shows of course, you know.

915
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 3: It was just like all right, man, I'm about to

916
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 3: let me stay close to the exit because it might

917
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 3: go down there.

918
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 2: But I've told you guys the story of when I

919
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,399
Speaker 2: was DJing at the New Yeurekend with my Man's and

920
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,720
Speaker 2: we got into it and I thought I was gonna

921
00:40:58,719 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 2: die with the guys from Connecticut.

922
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 3: Yep.

923
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 2: So there was another time I was DJing from Man's

924
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 2: that was opening up for I won't say his name.

925
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 2: He was signed to the Lock, not the Locks, to

926
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 2: d Block at the time, and we were opening up

927
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 2: for him based off his manager's relationship with d Block.

928
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 2: But my Man's was on some singing and rapping shit.

929
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 2: It wasn't that type of crowd. Yeah, this is like

930
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 2: when you really got to cut your teeth and earn

931
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 2: your keep, Like what it's like to feel like you're

932
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 2: dying on stage of just going records record somebody that

933
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 2: was affiliated with that artist twice my size. In the

934
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 2: middle of my man performing and we had like an

935
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 2: intricate DJ set. I was trying to mix certain stuff,

936
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 2: like we had a set, we've rehearsed, it's all this

937
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 2: entire thing for fucker over. Me hits the fader and

938
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 2: puts it to the side and said, it's time fiata

939
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 2: leave in the middle of the performance. Yeah, but I

940
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 2: had I had well, I was on vinyls, so I

941
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 2: had two things playing, so it didn't affect. Like my

942
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 2: man kept rapping, And it was the first time in

943
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 2: my life where I was like, I'm about to say

944
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 2: something that I know I'm gonna die, but I have

945
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 2: no other option. Got to be a man. I had

946
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 2: no other option. I know this is not going to

947
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 2: end well, I said, ain't no fucking way. We got

948
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 2: three more fucking songs, get away from me. Let's just

949
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 2: say we were handled outside of the building, but my

950
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 2: man finished the set. No handled finished the set, though

951
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 2: finished the set. Handled.

952
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 3: We get beat up outside, but we finished the set though,

953
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 3: That's all that matters.

954
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 2: And my man, who I love, did what every opening

955
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,919
Speaker 2: act does because the Locks are supposed to be special guests.

956
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 2: With this guy as well. It was like on the flyer.

957
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 2: So when you're just drowning in a set and it's

958
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 2: dead choir and saying like that, Yo, what yo, Get

959
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 2: the fuck off the stage, Yo, who's ready to see

960
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 2: the Locks? Who crowded rup.

961
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 3: And he said for the last song, he went, yeah,

962
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 3: not cut it, get the fuck out.

963
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 2: We was in there because this was nine like when

964
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 2: we were on the Blog era type of rap, and

965
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 2: that crowd was not trying to hear none of that ship.

966
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 2: He was really singing. He was like had an R

967
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 2: and B part. It was a bunch of dudes and

968
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 2: Champion hoodies waiting to see if Style was going to

969
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 2: show up. It was. It was one of the crazy experiences.

970
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 2: But no, we were physically handled.

971
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 3: Out that old place.

972
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 2: No, no, no, this was no, it wasn't. It was

973
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 2: in the city. Was it that Santos might have been

974
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 2: a Santos? Yeah, I'll think on it. It'll come to me.

975
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 2: Chris Brown.

976
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 5: You know y'all heard what he says.

977
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 4: Well, Chris real said, be so tired of y'all not

978
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 4: about what y'all talking about.

979
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 3: Oh well, Chris see about to say what you know?

980
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 2: I don't be knowing y'all start telling me. I'm like, wait,

981
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:50,240
Speaker 2: what happened?

982
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:50,399
Speaker 7: Now?

983
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 2: He finally admitted that Damaris and I were right that

984
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 2: the Quevo was much bigger than them. Yeah right, he said,

985
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 2: everyone compares Michael Jackson, Beyonce, Usher, and Quevo to me,

986
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 2: but we're all superstars in our own right.

987
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 3: Yeah he never said that, Yes he did. He didn't

988
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:08,720
Speaker 3: say people compare what Quavo.

989
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 5: Well, I didn't hear you add Quavo into it? You're

990
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:12,240
Speaker 5: mad annoying?

991
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, now you put something up on is ig story.

992
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 2: I believe can you click.

993
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 3: That, Josh? He tweeted, honest opinion, Beyonce, Michael Jackson, and

994
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 3: Usher are all the best superstars and lanes of their own.

995
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 3: I see a lot of podcasts and debates on who's better,

996
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 3: and the truth is that we all shine bright in

997
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 3: our own way. I'll never say I'm a better anything.

998
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 3: I'm just being the best Chris Brown. In some way,

999
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 3: shape or form, these artists have influenced me to go

1000
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 3: hard and never give up. I just want to be

1001
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 3: recognized for helping people with my gifts.

1002
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 2: That's on pop room.

1003
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 3: That's a very humble thing for Chris to say. But

1004
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 3: I'll go on record and say I do believe Chris

1005
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 3: Brown is a better dancer than Michael Jackson.

1006
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 2: I agree.

1007
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 3: Actually all of these usher Beyonce like I don't you know,

1008
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 3: I think Chris Brown is the better dancer out of

1009
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 3: these names. Michael Jackson is obviously, He's the apex entertainer.

1010
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 3: He is the one that everybody all generations. You see

1011
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 3: kids now that are maybe three four five years old

1012
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 3: dressed up like Michael Jackson, dance like Michael. So Michael

1013
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 3: Jackson is obviously the one that all artists and entertainers

1014
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 3: aspire to kind of be like. But it's okay to

1015
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 3: have artists that come after that are better vocalist than

1016
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:40,439
Speaker 3: Michael Jackson, better dancers than Michael just encompassed the entire thing,

1017
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 3: the mystique, the aura, the entertaining, just everything all in

1018
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 3: one is what made Michael Jackson so special. But I

1019
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,240
Speaker 3: do believe Chris Brown is a better dancer than Michael Jackson.

1020
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,879
Speaker 2: This is part of my age. This is gonna maybe

1021
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 2: be a stupid question. Did Michael Jackson invent the moonwalk

1022
00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 2: or is not that he just didn't. He just made

1023
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 2: it iconic. He made it iconic. He got it from

1024
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 2: some dancers he was watching on so he talked about

1025
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 2: soually appropriated it.

1026
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 3: No, no, no, it's culture vulture. Michael was No, there was.

1027
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,919
Speaker 2: Black people that created it. He ended being white.

1028
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 3: They were on Soul Train and he saw that move.

1029
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 3: It was part of like the whole rope when you know,

1030
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 3: dancers were doing the whole robot type of thing, and

1031
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 3: he saw that on I think on Soul Train, and

1032
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 3: he just made that a part of his performance. And

1033
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 3: you know, obviously his his platforms was the biggest in

1034
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 3: the world. So when he did it, that was the

1035
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 3: first time that many people saw that move.

1036
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,720
Speaker 2: But I mean, how much stake do you put into

1037
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 2: iconic choreography versus being the better dancer? Like, I agree

1038
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 2: with you. If we were in the same place Steve

1039
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 2: Harvey was doing, you got served and it's just Michael

1040
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 2: and Chris in the ring. Yeah, I'm going to take

1041
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 2: Chris Brown in that regard as far as dancing, yeah,

1042
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 2: but as far as iconic choreography, I think Michael and

1043
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 2: Beyonce are over here, and then Chris Brown and Usher

1044
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 2: are over here like between between. Obviously thriller goes without saying.

1045
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 2: But like Beyonce with her crazy and love choreography, I

1046
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 2: remember everyone trying to do that when I was in

1047
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 2: the seventh eighth grade, Uh, single Ladies, Like she has

1048
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 2: iconic choreography with her dancing like that is going to

1049
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 2: last forever. Same way with Michael. I mean the Your video.

1050
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 2: I think Chris definitely had iconic like people would try

1051
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 2: to do that choreography. But and the Usher My Way video.

1052
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,760
Speaker 2: I remember that. But do they have their their staple

1053
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 2: as far as dancing goes Michael, Chris Brown and ushers.

1054
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 2: But we know Beyonce and Michael Jackson have their staples.

1055
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 2: Just just Christen like a move like move anytime Beyonce

1056
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 2: is on tour and if she's going to perform single Ladies,

1057
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 2: people are waiting for that choreography, like that's the whole

1058
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 2: Chris Brown.

1059
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 4: Chris Brown has it with wall to wall. I don't

1060
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 4: have nothing but ladies calling. Yeah, take you down and

1061
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:07,720
Speaker 4: take you down.

1062
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, take you down there too, yeah yeah, but they

1063
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 2: take you down at the level we think that a

1064
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 2: Single Ladies or thriller.

1065
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 5: Will be nothing is at the level of Single Ladies.

1066
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 3: There will never be anything at the level of Thriller.

1067
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 2: Well obviously, but I still think, uh not to say

1068
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 2: Single Ladies is compared to Thriller as far as choreography,

1069
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 2: but she did check that box of I have an iconic,

1070
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 2: iconic choreography dance. I just I feel like Usher and

1071
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,399
Speaker 2: Chris maybe could outdance them, but don't have that.

1072
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 4: Well that well, part of that is because Usher and

1073
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 4: Chris can out dance them, their choreography is harder to

1074
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 4: do for sure. I mean, so a reason why Single

1075
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 4: Ladies and Thriller are so dis but well not Thriller.

1076
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 4: But the reason why Single Ladies are so popular is

1077
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 4: because the choreographer, I mean the choreography like White Housewives at.

1078
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 5: Home, We're home doing this ship like it's for easy.

1079
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 4: It's simple and sure, remember, so that's why it got

1080
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 4: as big as it got.

1081
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 2: But that's a good point because even like when Michael

1082
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 2: Jackson would do the lean, we like, everyone tries the lean. Yeah,

1083
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 2: so yeah, I hear you that that does. That does

1084
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 2: make sense too. It was very simplified, so everyone could

1085
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 2: it was like the first TikTok dances. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

1086
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 2: I get that because I mean, as I think Beyonce

1087
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 2: is up there with Michael, but she can't do a

1088
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 2: backflip without a running start, and that's something Chris Brown

1089
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 2: can do.

1090
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 3: Beyonce could run ten minutes. I don't think she can

1091
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 3: do it back you mean running start like I do that.

1092
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 2: I think my baby could do a backflip. She tried

1093
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 2: to it. Beyonce could do a back you know, we can,

1094
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 2: we can. Chris Brown doesn't try doing it.

1095
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 3: But I'm just saying right now, be it goes on

1096
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 3: stage tonight, there will be no backflip like you know.

1097
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not saying anything.

1098
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 3: Beyonce is amazing, but she not trying to do no

1099
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 3: fucking backlip tonight on stage.

1100
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 6: No.

1101
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 2: I think Usher and his prime could do a backflip

1102
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 2: with a running start. I don't know many performers that

1103
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 2: could just in there and do it. Usher has done

1104
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 2: back philips on stage, Yeah, but he had like two

1105
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 2: or three steps. I don't he didn't even travel NBA wise,

1106
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 2: I'm saying there was a quick run to start.

1107
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 3: Usher has a whole set literally on roller skates. That

1108
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 3: that that's crazy to do that like just doing a

1109
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 3: whole you know, a bunch of your records and the choreography,

1110
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 3: y'all are all.

1111
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 2: On roller skates. That's incredible.

1112
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 3: I mean, these are all you know, to what Usher's saying,

1113
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 3: I mean, Chris Brown is saying, these are all the

1114
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 3: best of the best. And you talk about performers and

1115
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:33,240
Speaker 3: the sceners, Uh, Usher and Chris and Michael Jackson and Beyonce,

1116
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 3: these are the These are the top of the pyramids

1117
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 3: when you talk about entertainment and you know, music and dance, choreography,

1118
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 3: things like that. Janet Jackson as well. I mean, her

1119
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 3: rhythmication video obviously was groundbreaking and changing. Even the one

1120
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,479
Speaker 3: video that she did what was the name of the song,

1121
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 3: uh Isn't Miss You Much? When she was in the

1122
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 3: dance suter byself with the chair Pleasure Principal, Pleasure Principal,

1123
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 3: that was an iconic video. It was just her in

1124
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 3: the video in the dance studio. So yeah, I mean, honestly,

1125
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:05,839
Speaker 3: on Chris saying, I think he was being a little

1126
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 3: humble and not trying to, you know, make it seem

1127
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 3: like he because obviously you don't want to be the

1128
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 3: person to say I'm better than anybody, or you know,

1129
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,879
Speaker 3: you let the audience and the fans say that, but

1130
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 3: I will say, you know, just in watching both and

1131
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 3: being a fan of both entertainers, and in regards to

1132
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 3: him and Michael Jackson, I do think Chris is the

1133
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 3: better dancer out of him and Michael Jackson.

1134
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 2: It's not my world, so I could be wrong, but

1135
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,240
Speaker 2: I want justice for choreographers, Like the way we get

1136
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 2: these billboard complex all these lists with producers, we know

1137
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 2: every backstory of every Quincy Jones thing with Michael Jackson, Like,

1138
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 2: is there a list of choreographers, Like why did they

1139
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 2: not get as much shine as even engineers get when

1140
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 2: you get down to the nerdy shit? Well, because I

1141
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 2: would like to know, because they still do LG. I

1142
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,399
Speaker 2: mean puff put LG on, Like that was the most

1143
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 2: famous one I remember as a kid because she was

1144
00:51:58,800 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 2: on the reality show.

1145
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 4: Well, people pay attention to things that apply to them.

1146
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 4: So why I was gonna say why engineers would be

1147
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 4: important to you is because that's what you would care about.

1148
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 2: But even like the best producer's twenty first century shit,

1149
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 2: that what we talked about last week, I feel like

1150
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 2: a casual fan clicked that right away too. If I,

1151
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 2: as a I wouldn'tven say a casual fan of choreography.

1152
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 2: I mean, I like dancing, but I don't sit and

1153
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 2: think about who put it together. I would click that

1154
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 2: list right away. And that's not even my world. I

1155
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 2: would love for those people to be highlighted and learn

1156
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 2: more about it. So there, that's a huge part of

1157
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 2: music that just is not talked about.

1158
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 4: But I mean, like again, like I hear you, but

1159
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 4: I don't know. Maybe it's because I really I love

1160
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 4: dancing so much that I'm more like Sean.

1161
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 5: Banka does the majority of people's videos these days, right.

1162
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 4: So a lot of the famous choreography that ends up

1163
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 4: being TikTok dances, like for example, Cardi B's up or

1164
00:52:55,239 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 4: I put that on my Mama Victoria Monet like great choreography, yes,

1165
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 4: which became huge right like that he did all of that.

1166
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 4: Sean Bankhead has been huge with the videos that he's

1167
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 4: he's created as far as like I remember all of

1168
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 4: Janet's choreographers obviously because some of them used to be

1169
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 4: her dancers, and I was like obsessed, But there are

1170
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 4: you can find that list.

1171
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:18,479
Speaker 5: But again, that would be up first.

1172
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 4: That would be something that you would have to pay

1173
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 4: attention to because the publications and stuff that it's going

1174
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 4: to be in might not be something that you're interested in.

1175
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:26,919
Speaker 4: But the theater kids know about it, and for sure

1176
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.

1177
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 2: So I'm interested. That's really why I'm asking, Like, did

1178
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 2: like did Michael have a main usher? Backfoot? Start? I?

1179
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 2: I stand correct me give us Do you know how

1180
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 2: hardly to stand there and do it? BACKFLI go try, no,

1181
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 2: go try.

1182
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be in the hospital for about a month

1183
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 3: if I try to do back I will knock all

1184
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 3: this shit over trying to do a backflo.

1185
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,280
Speaker 2: Did Michael have like a main choreographer the way Quincy

1186
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 2: was his main producer? Like, is there some we know

1187
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:01,879
Speaker 2: he did? He did?

1188
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 3: Like I think he worked with a lot of people

1189
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 3: uh on on a number of projects. I don't know

1190
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 3: if he had one main choreographer though, And.

1191
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,760
Speaker 2: I also want to know, like who who's the princes

1192
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 2: of this dance and ship? Like which icon never had

1193
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 2: a choreographer? Like if you saw them dance, they came

1194
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 2: up with it.

1195
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 5: That just doesn't.

1196
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:29,320
Speaker 4: Outside I'm side of Paul Abdul I don't think that

1197
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,280
Speaker 4: that that just because there's so much choreography is needed,

1198
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,720
Speaker 4: especially for not really music videos.

1199
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 2: For tours.

1200
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like tours, it's like,

1201
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 4: that's so much choreography. So Michael worked with seven prominent choreographers,

1202
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 4: but most importantly Vincent Patterson for Smooth Criminal, The Bad Tour,

1203
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 4: Michael Peters for Thriller and Beat It.

1204
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:50,720
Speaker 5: He's he he has a couple of people.

1205
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mike, Michael worked with him choreography for Thriller and

1206
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Speaker 2: Beat It. Like you, Michael Jackson of that Laul, I

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