1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: Calling all my sweeties to the forefront. 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 2: I'm your host, Christophe. 3 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 1: And this is to Keep It Positive Sweetie Show. Hello 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: and welcome to this episode of the Keep It Positive, 5 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: Sweetish Show. I'm your host CHRISTOPHINEE. Hazelt, and today we 6 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: have a powerhouse joining us. She's an entrepreneur, investor, author, 7 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: and co founder of The Fearless Fun Kiss Family. Let's 8 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 1: give a warm welcome to Arian Simone. Arian, thank you 9 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: so much for coming by, literally coming by because you're 10 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: right there. Yes, Oh my goodness, I know you were 11 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: so close. Yes, and you have to come by more often. 12 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 2: Yes, I'd love to. But thank you for having me. 13 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 2: I've been wanting. 14 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: To talk to you. I've been so fascinated with everything 15 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: you had going on. So to get yes you so 16 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: to get this opportunity, I'm just super grateful. So thank 17 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: you so much. 18 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 2: Thank you. 19 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely so. There's been so many things that people 20 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: know about you, from your your story to what you've 21 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: done lately with the Fearless Fun very dynamic woman, but 22 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: I want to get to the root of who you 23 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: are from the beginning. You've been very open about going 24 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: from homelessness to being an entrepreneur. Tell me about that journey. 25 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 3: She didn't took me back. Okay, christ take it bag 26 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 3: and they were gonna come. Yes, it was truly a 27 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 3: moment where how should I put it, I was just 28 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 3: more so out of alignment with my assignment and what I'm. 29 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 2: Supposed to do in the earth. 30 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 3: Yes, I was a college student at Florida and M University, 31 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 3: and I owned a store while I was there in 32 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 3: the mall, and I made a promise to myself while 33 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 3: I had the store that one day I was gonna 34 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 3: be the business investor I had been looking for. 35 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 2: The promise. 36 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 3: Of course, looks like the fearless fun today. But the 37 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 3: journey there, of course, took a lot of adventure. And 38 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 3: there was a time when I gave up. 39 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 2: On the store. Days you'd have fifty thousand dollars. 40 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 3: Some days you're kind as negative, and I'm like, am 41 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 3: I good at this? Or what is happening here? And 42 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 3: I stopped, and I keep that on my computer, the 43 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 3: financials from the store. Because business was actually profitable. I 44 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 3: look back now and laugh because I wasn't failing. 45 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 2: I just wasn't patient. 46 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 3: Who ooh, And I just needed patience. But what clothes 47 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 3: women's apparel amazing. Yes, in college, Yes, that's huge. 48 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 1: Yes, I was working at the clothing store. I didn't 49 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: own one. Yes, it was a. 50 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 3: Lot being a colleerepreneur. It was definitely a lot. And 51 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 3: me giving up on that, I moved to Los Angeles 52 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 3: actually with the job. The only job I've had in 53 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 3: my adult life, cause everything else I've done, I've worked 54 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 3: for myself. 55 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 2: And it was Nellie's Apple Bottoms and I worked for 56 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 2: thirty days. Yes, those Apple Bottoms boots. 57 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 4: With the first yes what And I worked for that 58 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 4: company for thirty days doing product placement, placed product on 59 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 4: Jessica Simpson and Tyra Banks, and I even found Oprah 60 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 4: put the genes on her and she had 'em on 61 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 4: the show. 62 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 3: So when the president said, Harry and we I'd like 63 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 3: to meet with you, I'm thinking, like, of course I've changed, 64 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 3: I've turned the company around. 65 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: You wanna meet with me? And she said, unfortunately, have 66 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 2: to let you go. And I was like, let me go. 67 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 3: She said, if it was based on performance, you'd be 68 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 3: the first to stay. 69 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: I said, what is this based on I was twenty 70 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 2: three at the time. 71 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, she said, well, the company's being sold. Everybody has 72 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 3: to go. We're g they're having a new team come in. 73 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 3: You just having to be the last hired, you're the 74 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 3: first fired. So yes, And at that time, my parents 75 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 3: were in an unfortunate divorce case called back and I 76 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 3: never knew I would never be able to not call 77 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 3: back home. I grew up middle class, so I was like, 78 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 3: what do you mean. They were like, hey, finances are 79 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 3: not good here right now. And I said, you know, 80 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 3: don't worry about me. I'll figure out life. 81 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 2: Ye y'all worry about my sister. I'm i'm'a keep going. 82 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 3: And I ran out of cash and then they put 83 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 3: on the notice on the door that says pay rent 84 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 3: or quit. 85 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 2: I said, well, shoot, I guess I gotta quit. 86 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 3: I don't us to give you wow, And I moved 87 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 3: from my apartment to my car. 88 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 2: My mom's best friend paid for my storage. I was like, 89 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 2: I'll just figure it out. Do I look sad? I'm here, 90 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 2: you are here. 91 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 3: And I was without a place to stay for seven months, welfare, 92 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 3: food stamps, selling my clothes so I could eat, put 93 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 3: gas in the car, et cetera. But my optimism, for 94 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 3: the most part of my faith kept me. I never 95 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 3: knew it was gonna take seven months. I get up 96 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 3: every day time, but oh, this is the last day. 97 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 3: This the last day, This the last day. And I 98 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 3: have a whole bunch of funny stories I tell about 99 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 3: what happened during that time. There was a moment where 100 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 3: I did do I did crash Like. I was like, 101 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 3: this cannot be happening to me. Yeah, this is not 102 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 3: I'm probably you know, months in and I'm like, wait 103 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 3: a minute. 104 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: I went to school, I got good grades. What did 105 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 2: I do wrong? 106 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: Yeah? 107 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 2: And I was like, okay, am I being punished? What 108 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 2: is this? So? 109 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 3: But luckily somebody called me. They sought me out to 110 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 3: do some PR marketing work. They saw my work at 111 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 3: Apple Bottoms. So I'm like, but you've called months ago, right, 112 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 3: And it was to do some PR marketing work for 113 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 3: their spouse. And they referred me to somebody, who referred 114 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 3: me to somebody who referred me to somebody I looked up. 115 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 3: I was like, okay, I got a business mm. And 116 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 3: I found that so interesting because the moment that got started, 117 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 3: it happened with such flowing ease MM. And I said, 118 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 3: there and you were creative to do business in this earth, 119 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 3: and the moment you stepped out of that, you caused 120 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 3: yourself more chaos and more headache than when you had 121 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 3: the store. 122 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 2: Like, the ups and downs at the store. 123 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 3: Were nothing like me having no trying to figure out 124 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 3: how i'm'a eat the next day, right, you know? 125 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 2: I was like, you have to stay. 126 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 3: In alignment with your purpose and you're calling in this earth, 127 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 3: cause even if it has ups and down, it's nothing 128 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 3: like being outside of that. 129 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. So what happened after you got that call? 130 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 3: Oh? I ended up building a pr and marketing company 131 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 3: from the ground up, servicing clients like from the Sony 132 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 3: Pictures to the Walt Disneys of the World and what 133 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 3: Universal and everything else. Yeah, we worked on Blockbuster movies. 134 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,799 Speaker 3: So Will Packer at the time was not the Will Packer. 135 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 3: I called him when I was living out of my 136 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 3: office space. So I went from the car to the 137 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 3: office and I said, well, I've started this company. 138 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 2: This is what I do. 139 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 3: I found out that Studio was actually outsourced PR and 140 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 3: marketing companies. He said, Aaron, your timing couldn't have been 141 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 3: more better. Wow, And I said, what's going on? He said, 142 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 3: we are getting ready to release our first big theatrical 143 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 3: movie and we're going to produce it in Atlanta and 144 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 3: I said what is it? And he said Stepping. That 145 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 3: was the working title. It's known as Stop the Art. 146 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: Which was my first and that was. 147 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 2: Their first big theatrical release. Wow, exactly. So she had 148 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 2: The Gospel before me. 149 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 3: That was the first big one and the movie was 150 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 3: number one two weekends in a row. So my phone 151 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 3: starts ringing with all the studio. 152 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,559 Speaker 2: I bet they're like, she did this. We need what's 153 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 2: going on? So? 154 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is incredible. 155 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: Thank you. 156 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: So at that point, did you move from Los Angeles 157 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: to Atlanta or did you stay? 158 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 2: No, I had to come out. 159 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 3: To Atlanta to for when it was being filmed, but 160 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 3: I didn't just move to Atlanta from there. 161 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 2: Now. 162 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: Yes, oh my goodness. It's funny because Will Packer's married 163 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: to my cousin now and Heather's my cousin. 164 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh Tennessee, yes, Oh my god. 165 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, yes, oh my gosh, yes, I love that. 166 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: She's she is she that is my girl, She's everything. 167 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Wait a minute. 168 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:57,119 Speaker 1: Yes, small word, very small world, but something. R two 169 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: the sequel was my very first film that I worked 170 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: in as an extra. I'm like, so, yeah, I got 171 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: my star with That was before Heather and it was 172 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: years later when we found out that they were together. 173 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: But yeah, small world. 174 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 2: I worked many in films with Packer. Yes, he's incredible. 175 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. So what was the pivot to 176 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: what you're doing? Now? How did you even get into 177 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: venture capital? 178 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 2: Okay? 179 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 3: So I started meeting people who were in the space. 180 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 3: I took a meeting at Gary Vaynerchuk's office, vayner Media, 181 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 3: with Gary v himself. 182 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 2: He's a social entrepreneur person. 183 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 3: Known on even you know, on the Internet, And in 184 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 3: the meeting, me and my friends were pitching to him 185 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 3: a ten million dollar basically pitch, wow, girl, we ain't 186 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 3: get it, but it's okay, she's a wow. And we 187 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 3: did not know at the time he only had a 188 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 3: twenty five million dollar fund and the fun had been deployed. 189 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 3: So we find us out after the pitch, which was 190 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 3: so funny. But afterwards, remember standing on the streets in 191 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 3: New York just froze and my friend he looked at 192 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 3: me sitting here in he said, you want to be 193 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 3: on the other side of the table. 194 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 2: I said, I do. I said, this is. 195 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 3: How I get to make good on the promise I 196 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 3: made to myself in college. 197 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: Come on. 198 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 3: And from there, having that awareness, I just started meeting 199 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 3: other people in venture capital at different events. I started, 200 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 3: let me tell you, it's fearless, funy with people. Know 201 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 3: today it was words. 202 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: Wow. 203 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 3: I was like, I'm building a fund. I'm building this fund. 204 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 3: It's for women of color. I was going around telling everybody, Girl, 205 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 3: there wasn't a cent in the bit, right. I opened 206 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 3: a bank account at Citizens Trust. This is a true story. 207 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 3: I went there and met with the manager and I said, 208 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 3: I'm building a multi million dollar fund and. 209 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 2: I told her all about it. 210 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 3: I said, and I'm gonna open it up with this 211 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 3: hundred dollars. I know, I said, I know this person 212 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 3: may have thought I was crazy. They're one of my 213 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 3: biggest advocates now. But I'm like, I said, I wonder, 214 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 3: what tell you. I'm thinking, like she's like, this girl's nuts. 215 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: But I got one hundred dollars, I'll say, you're right, 216 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: We're gonna set this account up. 217 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 2: I mean she saw a year later the millions coming in. 218 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 2: She said, this girl really did what she said she 219 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 2: was gonna do. 220 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: That is incredible. So how did you go about it? 221 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: Like you said, it just started with words. What were 222 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: you telling people to make? Because I was. 223 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 2: Telling people my Where's mine? 224 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 3: I was telling people my vision and they were buying 225 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 3: into the vision. And I told I ran into somebody 226 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 3: named Rodney Sampson, known in Atlanta and like the tech 227 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 3: space Tracy Gray. These people ended up being on our 228 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 3: advisory board. But I just started telling people my vision 229 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 3: and they were like, Okay, it's a little far fetched, 230 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 3: but if you believe, and you sound like you believe, 231 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 3: we'll rock with you. 232 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: Wow. Now, what were some of the hurdles as you're 233 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: building us? I want to get into that because people 234 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: will see where you are now and it's like, well, it's. 235 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 3: Capital intensity that's first and foremost. You need securities attorneys 236 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 3: to even set it up, and you're talking about a 237 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 3: setup feed that's probably six figures. Yeah, a setup fee 238 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 3: you could find. I figured out how to cut every corner. 239 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 2: Trust me. 240 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 3: I was like, okay, can we figure out how to 241 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 3: set this stick for like fifteen. 242 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 2: I'm like, let me step this thing. 243 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,599 Speaker 3: But as I was selling the vision, I started to 244 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 3: raise money and started to raise it from individuals at first, 245 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 3: and then from there I was at a family homecoming 246 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 3: and ran into somebody and I sold the vision again 247 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 3: and they were like, hey, we'll have our company come 248 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 3: down and meet with you. And they were our first 249 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 3: institutional investor, so it was a risk. And then after 250 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 3: LISK was like fifth third and I think Costco. 251 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 2: But the names were there, and when. 252 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 3: The wake of George Floyd hit in, a lot of 253 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 3: the commitments to the black community took place. We were 254 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 3: literally the right people in the right place at the 255 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 3: right time, doing the right thing. 256 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,719 Speaker 2: Yes, so now Inbound is happening. So but mindra, I. 257 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 3: Spent three years of grinding, two years plus of no salary, 258 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 3: just trying to figure it out. 259 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 2: To get there. 260 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 3: So yeah, it was a lot of years of still 261 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 3: selling a vision. 262 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: Yes, And can you explain for people who don't know 263 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:17,959 Speaker 1: exactly the mission of the Fearless Fund. 264 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:19,359 Speaker 2: Yes, thank you, absolutely. 265 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 3: The Fearless Fund is the nation's first, or even the 266 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 3: world's first venture capital fund that's built by women of 267 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 3: color for women of color. Yes, we invest in women 268 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 3: of color co founded companies. And the reason why is 269 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 3: because women of color are the fastest growing entrepreneur demographic, 270 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 3: but unfortunately the least funded. You're talking only zero point 271 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 3: three nine percent of venture capital funds are going to 272 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 3: women of color in the US, while. 273 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 2: May it's over twenty percent of the US population. 274 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 3: So the stats are ridiculous. 275 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 2: That's why we do what we do. 276 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: Yes, And then you guys hit a roadblock, a huge 277 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: roadblock with the lawsuits. 278 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 2: That's an understatement, huge rob blake. 279 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: It's like, what is happening in that moment when it's 280 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: all happening, What is arian and Simone thinking, well, when. 281 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 3: Everything hit, if we have time, I'm gonna tex walking 282 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 3: through the day. So on August second, twenty twenty three, 283 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 3: the staff starts reaching out saying, these the reporters are 284 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 3: calling us about a. 285 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 2: Lawsuit we have said, I have no lawsuit. Like I 286 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 2: was just calm. 287 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 3: I said, you know what, just don't answer the phones, 288 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 3: keep going on with your day. 289 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 2: And they kept calling. I said, y'all, this is chat GPT. 290 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 3: They have us mixed up with somebody clearly like I'm 291 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 3: up here, blame it on chat GPT literally wow. And 292 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 3: I was like, they've got I said, it'll fix itself 293 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 3: because we don't have a lawsuit. Then they're like Ariyan 294 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 3: and we are beginning caused by the Wall Street Journal 295 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 3: and rots and very credible media outlets. 296 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 2: We're all over the news right now. And I was 297 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 2: just like, if there's a filing, can you find it? 298 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 2: Because lawsuits are public. They got a file it and. 299 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 3: Forty five minutes I got a call to have found 300 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 3: the filing. 301 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: Now, is that something your lawyer should have called like 302 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: when it happened or. 303 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 2: You just technically know? 304 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 3: So since COVID you don't have to serve people in person, 305 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 3: you can serve. 306 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 2: Them through email. 307 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 3: Wow, which I had not opened the email where they 308 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 3: were sending emails at it all. And even then I 309 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 3: still didn't open it. I found out much later. I 310 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 3: was just like, oh, I was being served through the internet. 311 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 2: I said, who does this? 312 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 3: You're like okay, But then I knew because I hadn't 313 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 3: accepted being served, that they were aggressively of course, also 314 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 3: looking for me. Yes, that's scary, it very very. 315 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 2: But I used my rights. Yes, I'm well equipped. I 316 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 2: used my rights. 317 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 3: So that day they found the filing and I saw 318 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 3: the top of the filing and it said unite State's district. 319 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 3: And that's when I said, oh my gosh, we have 320 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 3: a federal case. So I text Ben Crump emergency. I'm 321 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 3: hitting up everybody. I'm hitting up Derek Johnson, head of 322 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 3: the NAACP. 323 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 2: I'm like, y'all got to help. So I'm just going on. 324 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 3: Yes, I was like, I don't even know what happened. 325 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 3: Then I said who is this? And they're like Ed 326 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 3: Bloom and I was like, I know that name. They're 327 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 3: like the guy who stopped a. 328 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 2: Firmative action, I said at the Supreme Court. And I 329 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 2: was like, oh my gosh. 330 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 3: So I was thrust into this just overnight, like what 331 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 3: is going on? 332 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 2: So it was very abrupt. 333 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 3: They filed three things against our company, a temporary straining order. 334 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 3: I thought those were for like crazy ex boyfriends or 335 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 3: ex girlfriends. No, you can file a tro on somebody's 336 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 3: business and put them out of business. Yes, they wanted 337 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 3: us shutting down operations by August seventeenth, and I said what. 338 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 3: They were like, do y'all have an event coming up 339 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 3: the attorney's ass I said yeah, I said it's the eighteenth. 340 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 3: They said that said I said, oh my gosh, I said, 341 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 3: why am I serving these people? This is literally that's 342 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 3: when you know it's a spirit of fear. Yes, this 343 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 3: is literally a trillion dollar financial disparity as far as 344 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 3: funding to people of color. Yeah, you're worried about in 345 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 3: the big scheme of things. I am so proud of 346 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 3: what we've done. But you're worried about a couple hundred million. Yeah, Like, 347 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 3: you've got to be kidding me. This is a trillion 348 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 3: dollar issue. We're not even making a dip in this statistic. Like, 349 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 3: you've got to be kidding me. I'm that much of 350 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 3: a threat that you want to shut this down. But 351 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 3: prior to the Fearless Fund, the average fundraise for a 352 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 3: black woman was only thirty thousand dollars. Oh yeah, we 353 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 3: came on the scene cutting seven figure checks. So it 354 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 3: was very disruptive, but very needed. 355 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so this is man blowing all this is happening. 356 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: And then so you have to cut off everything. Yeah. 357 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 3: So if anybody doesn't know, the court case was for 358 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 3: alleged discrimination. They said we were being discriminatory, we were 359 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 3: investing in black and brown women and not white businesses. 360 00:16:59,280 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: You are kidding me. 361 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 3: And they said we were violating They claimed we were 362 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 3: violating a civil rights law. 363 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 2: I thought that was still part of the hoax. 364 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 3: Hello, I said, I did, I said civil rights. I 365 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 3: was like civil rights were put in place for black people. 366 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 3: What you're talking about? I said, Oh, this is gonna 367 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 3: get dismissed. They have this wrong. Yeah, oh my goodness. 368 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: And now with d DEI being cut everywhere, we tried 369 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: to warn everybody, did you yes? 370 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 3: I kept a post like yes, because we were the 371 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 3: first deiks. I said, sound the alarm, I said, we 372 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:36,719 Speaker 3: are inaugural defendants and one of the most defining lawsuits 373 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 3: of our time. Please let people know this is real 374 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 3: and this is happening. 375 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. What happened with all the black women 376 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 1: that you were helping with their businesses? 377 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 2: But they still got their money? I know that's right. 378 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 3: And during the court case, I was still deploying. I 379 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 3: was still cutting checks left and right. I said, hey, 380 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 3: we're gonna keep this thing. Yes, I was still cutting checks. 381 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 1: Well, so where is fearless? 382 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 2: Woon? We still come checks now too? For the lawsuit 383 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 2: is permanently dismiss Praise God? 384 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 1: All good? 385 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,959 Speaker 2: Okay, yes, permanently dismissed. 386 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 3: When was that September twenty twenty four, So it was 387 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 3: thirteen months, yes. 388 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 2: Of a federal court case. 389 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,959 Speaker 3: So just mind you people here and they see what 390 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 3: went on in the media. I said, people have no 391 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 3: clue that fall was one of the hardest seasons of 392 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 3: my life. Yeah, that makes living out the car like 393 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 3: a piece of cakes. 394 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 1: Listen, I can. I can't imagine, but I can. 395 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 3: One of the hardest seasons of my life. Oh, I 396 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 3: had people coming from me, honey that looked just like 397 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 3: me and you. It was a mess. Oh, it was 398 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 3: a mess. 399 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: I can't imagine what in those moments. I know you 400 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,239 Speaker 1: you speak very openly about your faith. How did you 401 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: lean in on those because I know You're like, Lord, Okay, now, 402 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: I know I'm. 403 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 3: Strong, but I knew the moment it hit when I 404 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 3: realized we had something real, I was like, God, your 405 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 3: hand is on this. 406 00:18:58,440 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: Oh. 407 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 3: I was like, I grew up around Rosa Parks. I 408 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 3: grew up around Coredas Scott King, I grew up around 409 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 3: Betty Shabba's. 410 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 2: I said, your hand. 411 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: You grew up around all those Yes, what. 412 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 2: Civil rights icons, just women's women in the movement. I said, 413 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 2: this is not my happen state. 414 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 3: I think it's crazy too, because now I sit back 415 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 3: and I'm like, I would have asked y'all so. 416 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: Many more questions, right, yeah, this, yes, And I was 417 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: a kid. 418 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 3: I will get I will go back to give me 419 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 3: two seconds you think is no, I'm in. So there 420 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 3: was one moment when I remember being about fourteen and 421 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 3: my mom was like I always travel with my parents. 422 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 3: They were like, you know what We're going down ahead 423 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,239 Speaker 3: you and ask you it come down after us. And 424 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 3: I was like okay. They were like, you're coming to 425 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 3: Alabama and I freaked out. I said, I don't go 426 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 3: to Alabama. 427 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: No. 428 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 3: At this point, I'm well traveled. I've traveled country states, 429 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 3: all of it. There, I said, missus Parks has told 430 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 3: me about the clan and all these crazy people. 431 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 2: I said, I don't want to see mysel MoMA. Do 432 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 2: you have a gun down there? Like what is going on? 433 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 3: Like I don't like this, Like I didn't want to 434 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 3: go for anything, she said. She said, arian Coreta Scott King, 435 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 3: Juanita Abernathy, and Rosa Parks. 436 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 2: Are waiting on you. 437 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 3: And I told her I can see those old women anytime, 438 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 3: Lord forgive me. 439 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 2: But I was young and I had no appreciation of. 440 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 3: It at the time because this was just my life. 441 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 2: She was like a grandmother to me. 442 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 3: I'm checking on her after school, bringing groceries and stuff 443 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 3: like that. So this is not even like, oh my gosh, 444 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 3: it's my normal. 445 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: Yes. 446 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:27,360 Speaker 2: Wow, And she. 447 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 3: Was like, Arian Simone, reed, you will get your behind 448 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 3: on that plane. So I got my behind on that plane. 449 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 2: How old were you then? I think I was like fourteen? Yeah, yeah, 450 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 2: I was fourteen. 451 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 3: Oh this was an anniversary for one of the Montgomery 452 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 3: Bust boycotts. 453 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 2: But yeah, I pulled on that. So yeah, my faith 454 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 2: is strong. 455 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 3: When it happened, I knew God's hand was on it, 456 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 3: and I was just like I knew my steps. 457 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 2: Had been ordered. I knew I was covered. 458 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 3: I said, okay, Lord, no weapon form against me shall prosper. 459 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 3: I said, any tongue that rises up against me, I 460 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 3: shall condemn. I said, okay, I'm gonna stand on your word. 461 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 3: I said, I believe you. 462 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe you. 463 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 3: Watch over it to make sure it's performed. I said, 464 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 3: I'm with you. So yes, my faith got me through 465 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 3: because I had no clue that through something like that 466 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 3: that even other people would try to attack you because 467 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 3: they think you're vulnerable. I was like, oh my gosh, 468 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 3: that's but we had a lot of support, So we're 469 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 3: gonna keep it positive, Sweetie. Always we had a lot 470 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 3: of support through the process, and I'm so grateful. 471 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: Now have you seen those people that came after you 472 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: since then and see and they see that it didn't 473 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: work and no weapon formed against you, so prospered. 474 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 2: He lays the table. 475 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: Yes, and yeah, I know that's right. Oh my god. 476 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: So let's go back to Rosa Parks Corretta Scott King what, Yeah, 477 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: this is crazy, Like it's funny. I was on the 478 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: phone yesterday with a friend and he was like, you's 479 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: looking like Rosa Parks And I looked at the camera 480 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, well, I can see it 481 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: because my glasses on and my hair was like it 482 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: wasn't like slick bgg, it was kind of like. I 483 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: was like, come on, biopic, Rosa. 484 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 2: It's funny you said that. 485 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: And then the moment says you're a child not realizing 486 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 1: the I mean that you're like around and everage to 487 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: do what you're doing. Now, God makes no mistakes. It 488 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: was already written. Oh my gosh. So where you are now, 489 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 1: you're still writing checks, the fearless fun is still thriving. 490 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 1: What are the initiatives that you're going after now that 491 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:44,959 Speaker 1: you're over that hurdle? 492 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 3: Before we got to My staff even has me on 493 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 3: video talking about this. I didn't even notice it was 494 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,959 Speaker 3: coming around the corner. I told them, mat I retreat, 495 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 3: I said, you all. When we finished raising fun too, 496 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 3: I said, I'm gonna actually take a step back and 497 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 3: get into more afficacy work. I said, I have to 498 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 3: stand up for this kind of work that we're doing. 499 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 3: I said, because we don't need the Fearless fund. We 500 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 3: need fearless funds, I said, we need more people having 501 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 3: the opportunity to do what it is that I do. 502 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 3: I said, So I'm gonna get into some more advocacy work, 503 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 3: I said, and we're going to have to make sure 504 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 3: that people are aware of what this racial disparity is. 505 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 2: And how do we actually fix it. 506 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 3: So I had no clue that this would turn into 507 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 3: the way it has and giving me a platform to 508 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 3: have a voice to speak about it more. 509 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: So, that's incredible. Yeah, are you do you do like 510 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: mentorship programs or young entrepreneurs that are trying to start 511 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: their own business. 512 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 3: Not necessarily try to start their own business, but the 513 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 3: second they have and we have a program called get 514 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 3: Venture Ready. Okay, so people who have started their business 515 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 3: and they're looking to get venture dollars. We have programs 516 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 3: for them so they can learn about their options and 517 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 3: venture capitals. 518 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 2: Not for everybody. 519 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 3: It's very aggressive and it's very fast venture capital. To 520 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 3: those of you all who are listening, it looks like 521 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 3: Shark Tank. So people say, hey, yeah, can you give 522 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 3: me five hundred thousand dollars. I'll give you ten percent 523 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,479 Speaker 3: ownership of my business. And that's exactly what it looks like, 524 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 3: just like Shark Tank. Now that's some semi aggressive because 525 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 3: we're looking for you to exit in five to seven years. 526 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 2: Whereas we also have a loan program. 527 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 3: We have a two hundred million dollar loan program and 528 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,919 Speaker 3: people can apply for five thousand dollars up to two 529 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 3: hundred and fifty thousand dollars if you just have fifty 530 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 3: thousand in revenue credit score six hundred. 531 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 2: So that's the criteria for that program. 532 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 3: And then at our foundation we have grants, so we 533 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 3: have multiple financing options depending on where you're at and 534 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 3: what is your desire to get done. 535 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: So say, y'all, as an entrepreneur, you are here we 536 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 1: go and I was coming to you to present my 537 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 1: business looking for funding. What are you looking for? Because 538 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: I know people like, but what do I need to 539 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: be prepared for when I go ask for this money 540 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 1: in this capital. 541 00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 2: Well, there's four indicators. 542 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 3: Especially on the venture side. We do look for a 543 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 3: good brand story because you got to be to sell it. 544 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 3: Like I sold the vision and now we're here with 545 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 3: the fun. You got to be to sell it. You 546 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 3: need to have a strong team because that's nice. Once 547 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 3: you sell that story, it's like, okay, are you all 548 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 3: equipped to actually go execute on what you're selling to us. 549 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 3: You want to have a good product and you want 550 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 3: to have traction. So traction can look like anything. So 551 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 3: we invest in CpG, which is a consumer package good 552 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 3: and any type of products. We also invest in technology, but 553 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 3: with that being said, technology is very capital intensive, so 554 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 3: people may not have the revenue to say is traction. 555 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 3: They may have Oh my email list has fifty thousand 556 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 3: people on this wait list, that's traction. 557 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 1: Got it. 558 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 3: I've had this many downloads, that's traction. I've got this 559 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 3: many social media followers, that's traction. We know you have 560 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 3: people who are interested in what you're talking about. 561 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh wow, okay, so let's be tun to the 562 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 1: person who's just got an idea before they even can 563 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 1: even get to you. What are some things that they 564 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: can do to build that social media presence, to build 565 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 1: the traction, to get the emails. 566 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 2: And you'd be surprised ideas get funded every day. 567 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 3: Wow, those are our four indicators we look at. 568 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 2: But ideas do get funded every day. 569 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 1: Wow. Okay, it's good to know you guys. Listen, you 570 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 1: need to hip airing up or hit the fearless found up. 571 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 1: So how would you define success when it comes to 572 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: being an entrepreneur because so many people feel like, well, 573 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 1: I'm not where Aaron is, or I'm not where Crystal 574 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 1: is or I'm not here. But where would you define 575 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: success so people can understand there's different levels and you 576 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 1: don't have to be oh. 577 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 3: Completely, but it's whatever your field of I wouldn't say 578 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 3: like field of influences. I define it as you know, 579 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 3: just impact. If you've changed one person's life, you know, 580 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 3: just by your presence and by what it is that 581 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 3: you're doing. 582 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 2: That's impactful. 583 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: No, for sure, Yeah, that is impactful. Has your ideal 584 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,719 Speaker 1: of success evolved over the years? 585 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 2: Has it evolved? 586 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 1: It? 587 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 2: Probably has? 588 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 1: I know for me, like I remember where I would 589 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 1: say ten year. 590 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 2: Twenties and successful like a dollar amount. 591 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was success. And then where I am now, 592 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, that was nowhere near what I thought success was. 593 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: And then still today I'm like, I still have so 594 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 1: much further to go. 595 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 2: You know that is true. 596 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 3: I've always looked at it like, of course I'm always growing, 597 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 3: always evolving, always achieving always, Yes, but I still think 598 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 3: every level was successful. 599 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 600 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 3: So I get what you're meaning, what you're saying, like, oh, no, 601 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 3: I feel like I haven't made it. 602 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 2: I'm doing this, doing that, but you're successful. Yes, you've 603 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 2: been successful. 604 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 3: Yes, maybe because I just operate from like a pure 605 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 3: place of gratitude. 606 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 607 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 3: So yeah, I think so that was where I was. 608 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 3: Saber has evolved, Okay, I love that. 609 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 610 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 3: I wouldn' up said that was successful all those times, 611 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 3: but now I look back and say all of that 612 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 3: was success. 613 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love Yeah, what. 614 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: Actually inspired you to even create the Fearless Fun? 615 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 3: Was it just seeing that promise I made to myself 616 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 3: in college? I had the experience of going to pitch 617 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 3: as a college student. 618 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 2: What was your major? I was a business major, but 619 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 2: I majored in business in high school. 620 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 3: Like we had went to a high school that had 621 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 3: majors too. So going through that process and seeing investors 622 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 3: do not look like you going through that process and 623 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 3: I'm talking about it. 624 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 2: I'm suited and booted. 625 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 3: Even as a college kid, and I'm giving them my 626 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 3: best at that time business plan. This before decks quote unquote, 627 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 3: we're around and I was like, this is not working. 628 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 3: I was like, there's got to be somebody who can 629 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 3: understand my story. There's got to be somebody who's going 630 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,719 Speaker 3: to believe in me. And I sat there on that 631 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 3: floor amongst the inventory, and now, Sarah, don't you worry 632 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 3: about it, because one day you're going to be the 633 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 3: business investor you were looking for us. 634 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: I love that. Can you share a success story of 635 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: a business or entrepreneur that you guys have sewn into 636 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: and invested in? Oh honey, Plenty, please share it because 637 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: I'm excited to hear about. 638 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 3: You said, Plenty, I mean, we're investors. You know these 639 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 3: companies partake the lip bars Vegan. I mean, oh yeah, 640 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 3: I we got the hit list. Okay, we got the 641 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 3: hot roster. 642 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 2: I didn't know that. Oh yeah, we got all the 643 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 2: success stories. 644 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: Yes, that is amazing. So how did Pinky come come in? 645 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 2: I don't think she came in. 646 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 3: I was probably a uh slutified whatever they call it. 647 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 2: Oh. Yes. 648 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 3: And then I heard through her manager at the time 649 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 3: that they were having around a funding and I was like, oh, 650 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 3: you're gonna cut me in. 651 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: I know that's right. 652 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 2: He was like, I got you. I was like cool. 653 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 2: So that's how that happened. 654 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: Okay. And then Marissa the lip bar I just saw her. 655 00:29:54,440 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 3: She actually came to us, but I was there probably baby. 656 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 3: I don't know if it's week one, two or three. 657 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 3: I pledge Melissa, we have the same yep, we're a Delta's. 658 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 2: We have the same high school in common. 659 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 3: We were both from the same side of town in Detroit, 660 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 3: and then we both went to FAM You oh so y'all. 661 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 2: So I was not in her diligence process because I said, 662 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 2: y'all have to keep me honest. 663 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 664 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, because I was like I was there week one 665 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 3: when she was in her studio apartment in New York 666 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 3: making Veigan lipstick from the stove. So I was like, 667 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 3: I got to step aside on this one. 668 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 2: No, there were times we think it was happening. She 669 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 2: was like, spash, I don't think it's happening. I said, 670 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 2: I don't know. They ain't giving me a good report 671 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 2: right now. 672 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 3: So it went on for like a couple of months, 673 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 3: back and forth, legal diligence papers, and then she called. 674 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 2: She said it's going to happen, and I cried. 675 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 3: I had never cried and we had invested, but I said, 676 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 3: this is somebody I saw day one built this business. 677 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 2: I said, I am honored to cut this check. 678 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: Oh see, I love hearing stories like that. And that 679 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: was another thing that he designed that it was written 680 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: since y'all were kids. Like what you know what I'm saying, Like, 681 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: that's crazy, that is crazy. How can people if they 682 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: want to get involved, if they have the money and 683 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: they want to just even donate to the fun how 684 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: can they do that? 685 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 3: Donations to the foundation are at the Fearless Dot Foundation. 686 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 3: Any information for the fund is Fearless Dot Fund f und. 687 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: Okay, perfect, Yeah, because I'm sure people listening are gonna 688 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: want to get behind this. Oh thank you, especially with 689 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: everything that's going on with DEI and our funsy and 690 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: cut everywhere you turn. How do you feel about the 691 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: boycotts on different companies? 692 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 2: Girl, don't get me started. 693 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 3: I'm not on social It's much lately. Yeah, but when 694 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 3: I have had to say a few things here and there, 695 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 3: I have a lot of feelings. I have told even 696 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 3: the black and brown brands at Target. I said, if 697 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 3: you can walk off the shelf the same way they 698 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 3: can cancel you, you can cancel them. Wow, I said, 699 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 3: And you all probably need to walk in your power. 700 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 3: I said, if I were you, I's in a collective 701 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 3: letter expressing your concerns that when I entered into an 702 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 3: agreement with your company, that these were. 703 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 2: Your value systems. 704 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 3: Yes, this is where things lined up. This is why 705 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 3: I chose to be in partnership with you. I said, 706 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 3: not have everybody sign it. And I said, because you 707 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 3: have now changed your values and I've entered into this 708 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 3: business agreement with you, my products are now being part 709 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 3: of a boycott. 710 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 2: That I wouldn't have wanted. 711 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 3: So I may have to sue you for financial damages 712 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 3: unless you want to change your values. 713 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: Wow, I need you to look. 714 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 2: So when we got to say how do I need 715 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 2: to break this email? 716 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 3: Oh, well, the bord of directors would have hurt from 717 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 3: me had I been in that position, their board of 718 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 3: directors in their c suites. You are sorry, and I 719 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 3: would have had a meeting. I know this, and I 720 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 3: would have had. 721 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 2: A check too. 722 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I love I'm good friends with Tabith Brown, 723 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: love her, and even Monique Rodriguez, their brands are both. 724 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 2: On target Ship. 725 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: These are all my girlfriends, everybody, and I've seen them 726 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: get on Instagram and say, hey, guys, if you do 727 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: if you're boycotting, you're boycotting us. So if you're going 728 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: to go only shop black brands. But when I think 729 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: about it, and I feel like, if you just bring 730 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: in and make your own website and sell it yourself 731 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: and get a. 732 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 3: Josh say, y'all, can all walk out the door and 733 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 3: go start tire baby. Listen, all walk out the door, 734 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 3: all of them, and collectively, I said, you all make 735 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 3: them millions millions of money. I said, stand in your voice, yes, 736 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 3: stand in your voice exactly. So yeah, they Target would 737 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 3: have had a new announcement by the time I had 738 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 3: got done with them. 739 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 2: We would have saw a whole new press conference. I 740 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 2: already know. 741 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, yeah I was. I see a lot 742 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: of people doing the boycotts and pastors, everyone's getting behind it, 743 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: and I think it's very important to let our voices 744 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: be heard and show the power of our dollar as 745 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: a community. 746 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 3: Because even speaking of Rosa Parks, the Montgomery bus boycott 747 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 3: did not just end due to morality, it ended due 748 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:10,399 Speaker 3: to economics. 749 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 2: They bled them out, so they were like, oh, we're 750 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,760 Speaker 2: going to start this and fix some things. 751 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 752 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 3: So yeah, you exercise, you advocate with your dollars. 753 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,280 Speaker 2: And I tell that to people all the time. 754 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 3: So if somebody does donate from watching this, thank you 755 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 3: all so much because you advocate with your dollars. 756 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 1: Exactly they do. How do you balance being a leader, 757 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 1: a business woman and an entrepreneur like you do a 758 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: lot of things and now you're in your advocacy bag 759 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: and you're all of I can imagine how you even 760 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: keep up with the day with everything you have going on. 761 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: How do you balance it off? 762 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 2: Well, I'm grateful for a great team. Yeah, I'm like 763 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 2: you too. 764 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I'm like we may be small, but we're 765 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 3: mighty and lean. 766 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,280 Speaker 2: Yes, we are mighty. 767 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 3: So I've been blessed with great people, great advisors, great 768 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,399 Speaker 3: team members. I have to really give it to them. 769 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 3: They keep my life in order so I can move 770 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 3: and flowing it. 771 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I always see you around them, like she's 772 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: you always supporting everyone. 773 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:08,839 Speaker 2: Yeah. 774 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: Years like we saw each other at Sarah James Roberts 775 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 1: book signing. Yes, and I saw your Will's book signing. 776 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:15,439 Speaker 3: Yeah. 777 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: So you're always supporting everybody. 778 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 2: That's my joy I love. 779 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:24,280 Speaker 3: I love seeing people succeed and I love seeing dreams fulfilled. 780 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 3: I love seeing people walking their purpose. Yes, yes, this 781 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 3: is this Earth is fun. 782 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:36,760 Speaker 1: I love that what Roles has networking played in building 783 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: everything you've built today. Because I'm not the best networker, 784 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 1: I tell it, Sean all the time. I need you 785 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 1: to come with me because I will sit in the 786 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:43,760 Speaker 1: corner and not talk to people. 787 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 2: But it seems like you have seen how you have 788 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:46,919 Speaker 2: figured it out. 789 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 3: You know. 790 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: I even last night I went somewhere and somebody else 791 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: had to like take me to meet the people because 792 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be like, Hi, I'm Crystal, how are 793 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: you doing this? 794 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 2: And people know who you are? 795 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 3: I said, somehow it has still worked out. But I 796 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 3: get what you're saying. You're like, Okay, if you're not 797 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 3: like aggressively extrovert, if you're not that, I think you 798 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 3: I think you may have answered your own question because 799 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 3: you're like, Okay, I'm gonna bring an advocate. 800 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 1: With me that somebody that can say this is right. Yeah, 801 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,320 Speaker 1: that's true, because I do have an issue with that. 802 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 1: A friend of mine said, you network. I'm like, no, 803 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:28,359 Speaker 1: not the bus networker, like, and I'm a really yes. 804 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:35,399 Speaker 2: The word itself doesn't sound organic, and I think that's 805 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 2: my problem. 806 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 3: I don't want to Yes, you don't want force relationships. 807 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 3: So I wouldn't even approach it from a networking standpoint 808 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 3: because I'm big on energy to if I rock with you, 809 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 3: I rock with you, and if I don't, I don't 810 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 3: and I'm really okay with it. 811 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So I. 812 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,919 Speaker 3: Would just say I'm coming to make whatever genuine connections, yeah, 813 00:36:58,440 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 3: or in the space. 814 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 2: That are there for me. 815 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 1: M I love that. 816 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 2: What is next for you? Oh God? 817 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: Because I know it's something. I know you got something 818 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: in your sleeve. 819 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 3: I mean, if we're talking business, I would say I 820 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 3: can sense a book. 821 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 1: I did it literally when you was like what are 822 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: you writing a book? If you were like, so, we 823 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 1: need a book, area, we need a book, especially talking 824 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 1: about groves of parks, and that was like your grandma. 825 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,720 Speaker 3: Well the book is it isn't in the book because 826 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 3: the book is about picking up the mantle from where 827 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 3: our civil rights icons left off and preparing a prosperous 828 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 3: future for this generation. 829 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 2: I love it. 830 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 1: I absolutely love it. Do you have a title yet? 831 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: Mm hmm? Can the kids family get a little sneaky? 832 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 2: It's like not yet. 833 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 3: It's my I don't mind sharing it because it's I know, 834 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 3: even my agency is making an announcement. 835 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 2: But it's called Freedom to Be Fearless. 836 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,760 Speaker 1: Amazing. Well, I have a like, it's not really announced 837 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 1: as a book club, but I do one book a month, 838 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 1: so I'll make sure I share that. Yes, absolutely, and 839 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,879 Speaker 1: we'll read it absolutely. A goal of mine this year 840 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 1: was to read more because I just remember as a kid, 841 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 1: I would read all the time. I would stay in 842 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 1: my room and just like just going through the pages, 843 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I do not sit down and read anymore. 844 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 1: So this year I started that and every month I 845 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: do a book. 846 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 2: Did that help you just dream? 847 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,879 Speaker 1: It? Did? It did? Especially being from a SMA small 848 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:28,799 Speaker 1: town like. 849 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 3: My small town success stories out of magazines and the 850 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:32,839 Speaker 3: books I hear. 851 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 1: I just I literally was. When we were in LA 852 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: for Essence last week, I just said that I was 853 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,320 Speaker 1: like I was talking to one of the marketing executed Essence, 854 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,879 Speaker 1: and I said, Essence magazine was in my coffee table, 855 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 1: and it was also at our bathrooms because back in 856 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 1: the day, we would have these little baskets with magazines 857 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 1: in it when you go to the bathroom, and it 858 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 1: was Essence and Jed and Ebony. Those are the magazines 859 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: in there. So that was where I found my style inspiration. 860 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 1: That's where I knew what was going on in black 861 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 1: culture because where I'm from, it's predominantly white, So I 862 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 1: didn't have that exposure like all my friends were white, 863 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 1: Like I was the black kids sitting at the table 864 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 1: with all the white kids. So I didn't have that 865 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 1: exposure to our culture through except for through bt MTV 866 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 1: and the magazines. You're absolutely right, and it just it 867 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 1: showed me a whole new world and it got my mind. 868 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 1: I said, as soon as I can get out of here, 869 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 1: I'm getting out of here. And I did. Oh my god, 870 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 1: that's beautiful, thank you, thank you. You pour into everyone. 871 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 1: How do you pour into yourself? 872 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:34,879 Speaker 2: Oh? 873 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 1: I do, she said, Oh I do. 874 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 2: Have I do often. 875 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 3: I'm even about to take off on a whole wellness 876 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 3: tripod wellness resorts. I'm talking resorts that make you sign 877 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 3: a contract that you can't get on the phone. 878 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 1: Oh I need to do that. 879 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 2: Oh yes, we should do that, I think. 880 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,800 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, literally, I love this. 881 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 2: Oh I do. And a shot of nose she got 882 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 2: with one of her events. 883 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,879 Speaker 3: I send her gift her for season spots like go 884 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 3: enjoy yourself. I said, go enjoy yourself. I'm very big 885 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 3: on being restorative, yes, because I know if I'm gonna 886 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 3: do all that, I have to pour into me. 887 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. So I'm very big on loving myself. 888 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 3: I get up in the morning, I pray, I have 889 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 3: a scripture, I meditate, I have affirmations, I say religiously. 890 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 2: You know I am intentional about loving on me. 891 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah, And I'm proud of you for 892 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 1: that because I feel as black women, we pour poor, poor, 893 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 1: poor poor, and then we're I know, you can run dry, 894 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:36,480 Speaker 1: literally run dry. 895 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:36,919 Speaker 2: Yes. 896 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 1: So that's amazing that that you're intentional in that space. 897 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 1: And before we get out, I wanted to ask you 898 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 1: one last thing. Okay, you're a queen. 899 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 3: I am the queen of Dawa and cultivoar. You are 900 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 3: the queen of Dawa, yes and Cultivoar. 901 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 1: Where's that? 902 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 3: I'm the Ifer Coast it's right next door to Ghana, really, 903 00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:58,840 Speaker 3: so you can apply direct to a cry and you 904 00:40:58,840 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 3: can just hop on over. 905 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,320 Speaker 2: To ib Wow. 906 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 1: So how did that happen? 907 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:03,839 Speaker 2: That's why I said. 908 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 3: I knew I was gonna need some time if I 909 00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 3: was gonna discuss this, but I'm gonna give it to you. 910 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 3: So I have always had an affinity for the continent, 911 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 3: and when you're talking about just ordered steps and divinity, 912 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 3: I never. 913 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 2: Saw this coming. I would always go over there in. 914 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 3: Big ball gowns and big head wraps and just enjoy 915 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,920 Speaker 3: the fact that we come from kings and queen's and 916 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 3: I would just. 917 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 2: Savor in it. 918 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 3: And I remember one day I got this call from 919 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 3: one of our team members and they sit Arian because 920 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 3: I was building a school in Gotouvoir, and they said, 921 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 3: when you land, Astylus is gonna meet you. And I 922 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 3: was like, nah, I said, I'm wearing my hair naturally curly. 923 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 3: I just want to feel like, you know, I'm in 924 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,800 Speaker 3: the Earth, Mother Earth. I'm just wearing my hair naturally curly. 925 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 3: And she was like, well, no, it's for your outfit 926 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,279 Speaker 3: and I was like, oh no, when I get to. 927 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:02,759 Speaker 2: The school, I'm putting on jeans and you know, the 928 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,360 Speaker 2: polo top for the school. And she was like, oh 929 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:07,879 Speaker 2: my gosh, she said, you don't know. 930 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,360 Speaker 3: I said what she said, arian, they're crowning you queen, 931 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:14,439 Speaker 3: and I kind of laughed and. 932 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,440 Speaker 2: Got off the phone. I was said, oh, how cute. 933 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 2: I didn't take it as for real. 934 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 3: I took it as like this is an honor or 935 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:26,440 Speaker 3: an award or something like that. It wasn't until I 936 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:30,320 Speaker 3: got this long email that came through about the queen's 937 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:35,320 Speaker 3: ceremony and her coronation. And then the queen addresses her people. 938 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 3: I'm reading this, said her people, A dresses her cortal. 939 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 3: I was like, wait a minute, this is me addresses her. 940 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 3: I was like, and then it's said in there that 941 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 3: the chief had prayed to God. I have Christian territory. 942 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,480 Speaker 3: The chief had prayed to God and said this is her. 943 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,319 Speaker 3: And I was just like, what now, this isn't even 944 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,919 Speaker 3: spook you out. Much later I get ready to board 945 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,439 Speaker 3: this flight. Ain't on the iPhone they have like these 946 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 3: news stories that pop up in the day. Yeah, the 947 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,160 Speaker 3: news story said five royal tribes that were captured in 948 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 3: the slave trade. I was so freaked. I don't even 949 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:08,239 Speaker 3: read that art of the time. I went back and 950 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:12,879 Speaker 3: read it much later. Then a year about later at 951 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:14,360 Speaker 3: one of our family reunions. 952 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:15,880 Speaker 2: Now, mind you, I've done my DNA. 953 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,479 Speaker 3: I just I always I never focused on the West 954 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,360 Speaker 3: as much as I did the East. I was always 955 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 3: so surprised how heavy East I was, considering most people, 956 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:28,319 Speaker 3: and yes, African Americans are very heavy West, yes, due 957 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,840 Speaker 3: to the Transatlantic slave trade. So the fact that I 958 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,360 Speaker 3: was like thirty five percent East of African, Ethiopian and 959 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,319 Speaker 3: Retreat and all this stuff over there, I was like, 960 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 3: this is interesting. 961 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't even look at the other side. 962 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,840 Speaker 3: So I'm at a family reunion and my family's like lineage, 963 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 3: we go back eight generations and we're very heavy into 964 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,440 Speaker 3: our family history, and they're doing a DNA test and 965 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,759 Speaker 3: all that arie you know, we got Ivorian blood. And 966 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 3: I look and I said, oh my gosh, like even 967 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 3: if you see we have a family genealogist and you 968 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 3: can see it going up and up and up and up, 969 00:43:59,120 --> 00:43:59,759 Speaker 3: and I was. 970 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 2: Like, oh, this is freaking me. 971 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, oh my goodness. 972 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:05,799 Speaker 2: What is this. 973 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 3: I know exactly, but it was definitely It's truly an honor. 974 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 3: But it's not just a title, it's actually a responsibility. 975 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 3: These people are looking to you for leadership, Yes, they 976 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 3: are looking to you for vision. As queen, you work 977 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 3: with the government to help improve the welfare of the people. 978 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,320 Speaker 2: So this is it's real. 979 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:31,360 Speaker 3: Wow. And especially in African traditions, we have so many thrones, 980 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,439 Speaker 3: like there's only I think twelve monarchs that are still 981 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:34,880 Speaker 3: in power in. 982 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:40,640 Speaker 2: The whole world now. But for Africans prior to colonialism, 983 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 2: you know, these were tribal lands. 984 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 3: Yes, this is being land that's governed by kings and queens, 985 00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 3: you know, and still it's respected today over there. So 986 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:54,440 Speaker 3: I land and paparazzis everywhere. I got on like a 987 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 3: poncho some sweats. I'm like, okay, get to the hotel. 988 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,840 Speaker 3: They're like, what are you doing tomorrow? And I told 989 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 3: somebody I was gonna have a spot day. I told 990 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:06,440 Speaker 3: you I was pour into me. 991 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:06,920 Speaker 1: M m. 992 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:08,080 Speaker 2: They said no. 993 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,640 Speaker 3: They said, the head rap lady will be to you 994 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,240 Speaker 3: at six point thirty and makeup is coming at six 995 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 3: I said, huh, that said you fee on National news 996 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:17,360 Speaker 3: at eight am? 997 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,920 Speaker 2: Oh my, what exactly? 998 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:21,239 Speaker 3: I was like, what I said, you know what, You're 999 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,919 Speaker 3: gonna surrender? I said, just go with it. Yeah, I said, 1000 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 3: just go with it. 1001 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 2: I get out there luckily. 1002 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 3: On that trip, actually my first lady was with me, 1003 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,759 Speaker 3: Pastor Danielle Murphy, and she actually gave the sermon in 1004 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:38,239 Speaker 3: my ceremony and somebody translated it in French for the audience, 1005 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,440 Speaker 3: and before I gave my address, And there was so 1006 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,839 Speaker 3: many blooper moments, like oh, Christina Murray was there at 1007 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 3: that trip, like, oh what's you? 1008 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 2: Oh god. 1009 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,360 Speaker 3: She was standing up at times and the government was 1010 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:50,760 Speaker 3: like to sit down. 1011 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 2: She said to this, I said, Christina was supposed to 1012 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:53,800 Speaker 2: be seen it right, Oh lord. 1013 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,680 Speaker 3: So it's all these different bloopers. The girl greets me 1014 00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,839 Speaker 3: with these flowers, I curtsy right with her. 1015 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:06,359 Speaker 2: The queen to stand so it was so funny. But 1016 00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 2: I love the people. 1017 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,720 Speaker 1: Did you have to like take like a crash course? 1018 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:12,480 Speaker 2: Oh no. Yeah. 1019 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,640 Speaker 3: The moment I realized that letter was real, they were like, 1020 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,880 Speaker 3: you have government protocol tomorrow morning, because you need to know, 1021 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:20,160 Speaker 3: of course, how to address people. I'm even still learning 1022 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 3: on the job to this day. I was just went 1023 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,400 Speaker 3: to go visit one of my girlfriends over there for 1024 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,640 Speaker 3: her brunch and she's like on arian and of course, 1025 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:27,319 Speaker 3: you know, do your title. 1026 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 2: You're at the head table, and I was just like, okay, 1027 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:30,960 Speaker 2: I'm thinking, like I just sit at the head table. 1028 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,880 Speaker 3: I don't know that every time somebody speaks, I have 1029 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,720 Speaker 3: to stand up and I have to greet them. Wow. 1030 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:38,840 Speaker 2: So I'm always still. 1031 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,719 Speaker 3: Like learning on the job because French culture is very 1032 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 3: big on protocol. Francophone countries and anglephone countries are a 1033 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 3: little bit different. Like when I go to China, I'm 1034 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,720 Speaker 3: like all relaxed, just chilling. 1035 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,960 Speaker 2: I'm over at Coochdvar. It's like, okay, I already know 1036 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,319 Speaker 2: I have to be on wow. So but yes, it's 1037 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,360 Speaker 2: my honor to serve those people. 1038 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 1: Yes, that is in Oh thank you, Oh my gosh. 1039 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,880 Speaker 1: We are in the presence of a queen. It's so crazy. 1040 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:06,440 Speaker 2: I was wondering. 1041 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,279 Speaker 1: I was like, how did that happen? So how often 1042 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:09,920 Speaker 1: do you have to go? 1043 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 2: I go? Technically I go. 1044 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 3: It seems like I'm in Africa so often, but I 1045 00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,040 Speaker 3: am there in Dawa at least once a year. 1046 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,360 Speaker 2: I am on the continent sometimes every other month. 1047 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 1: Wow. 1048 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 3: We actually even at the fund and the foundation, so 1049 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,799 Speaker 3: eighty percent of our funds are domestic, twenty percent or international. 1050 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,239 Speaker 3: So I allocate grants through there. We have investments on 1051 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:38,600 Speaker 3: the continent. So yes, it's it's it's wonderful. 1052 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,160 Speaker 1: I love that. I do have a question. There's a 1053 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:46,880 Speaker 1: big misconception that Africa is not a place that you 1054 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,120 Speaker 1: want to move to. But I hear so many Americans 1055 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:54,360 Speaker 1: going back to Africa. Ghana specifically Ghana has done a 1056 00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,960 Speaker 1: good job. How do you feel about that and is 1057 00:47:58,000 --> 00:47:59,839 Speaker 1: that something that you feel people should look into. 1058 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:04,600 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I even have Guanian citizenship. So Ghana has 1059 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:08,440 Speaker 3: done a great job with just marketing the year of 1060 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:15,319 Speaker 3: their return. And I would say this because they're like, 1061 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 3: and what did you think when you got here? 1062 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,960 Speaker 2: And I was honest with them, you all oversold this place. 1063 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:21,040 Speaker 1: Now. 1064 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,360 Speaker 3: I've been back and forth to Ghana so many times 1065 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,440 Speaker 3: since then, I said, only because I'm somebody who's traveled 1066 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,880 Speaker 3: the continent. I said, I've been north, south, east west. 1067 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,239 Speaker 3: I said, so I know what Africa has offered. I said, 1068 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,439 Speaker 3: you all get enough so much tourism here. I said, 1069 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,839 Speaker 3: I did expect your infrastructure to be a little bit better. 1070 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 3: I said, you go next door to Kotivoir and they said, 1071 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:40,160 Speaker 3: we already know. 1072 00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:40,920 Speaker 2: It's gorgeous. 1073 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,279 Speaker 3: So like Ibjina is called Paris of the West. Like 1074 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,760 Speaker 3: I mean, it's Ivijian. I mean the beaches. Ivery coast 1075 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,399 Speaker 3: is known for their white sand beaches, all of it. 1076 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,040 Speaker 2: It's gorgeous. 1077 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,840 Speaker 3: So I will say this, I think that any black 1078 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,720 Speaker 3: person should have that experience of being on your own land. 1079 00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,799 Speaker 3: There's nothing like it. I think that they should know 1080 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,560 Speaker 3: the culture, the history. It's part of who we are. Yes, 1081 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,520 Speaker 3: So I do encourage that. I encourage even. 1082 00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:08,520 Speaker 2: If you want two places. 1083 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,880 Speaker 3: You know, it may be inexpensive to have a summer 1084 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,680 Speaker 3: home out on the continent and then come back, you know, 1085 00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:19,200 Speaker 3: So I definitely encourage it. And like I said, God 1086 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,480 Speaker 3: has done a good job of making it easy for people. 1087 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 2: Right. 1088 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:25,480 Speaker 1: What about safety? Because I went to Johannesburg with Tyler 1089 00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,839 Speaker 1: for the Global Citizens Festival and they were telling us, 1090 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,480 Speaker 1: don't have EarPods in your ears, don't be on your 1091 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:32,080 Speaker 1: phone in the car. 1092 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:33,800 Speaker 3: I don't stop at the red lights after when it 1093 00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,200 Speaker 3: gets dark. Yes, I love Johannesburger a few times. 1094 00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:36,960 Speaker 2: Is it like that? 1095 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:38,880 Speaker 1: And not even know if all Africa's like that? You 1096 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,319 Speaker 1: have other parts where it's war no, whe I. 1097 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,359 Speaker 3: Will say this, it's fifty four countries. So no, it's 1098 00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,719 Speaker 3: definitely not all like that. Africa has everything that you 1099 00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:48,640 Speaker 3: will find in the world. You're going to find paradise, 1100 00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,520 Speaker 3: you're going to find Third World and you're going to 1101 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 3: find city high skyscrapers oliver like you saw in Drouble. 1102 00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,480 Speaker 2: So you're going to see everything. 1103 00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,680 Speaker 1: You did see everything because job like thirty like to 1104 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:04,960 Speaker 1: Suedo where YEP lives and then is like you're passing 1105 00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:05,879 Speaker 1: huts in like. 1106 00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:13,520 Speaker 3: Correct all of it. But the level of beauty is unmatched, 1107 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,719 Speaker 3: you know. So you're going to see all of it 1108 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,319 Speaker 3: and those of us who can and we can come 1109 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,800 Speaker 3: and do things to help make it better. The investment 1110 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,400 Speaker 3: opportunity is huge. I sit on the board of Steve Madden. 1111 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 3: Our number one store right now is our South African store, 1112 00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,600 Speaker 3: are you Yes, We've expanded to the continent and Steve 1113 00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:31,680 Speaker 3: Manner has some cute clothes. 1114 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,920 Speaker 2: Now I didn't know that. Yeah, just started making there. 1115 00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:36,200 Speaker 2: It's on Revolve. 1116 00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:36,879 Speaker 1: I see it all the time. 1117 00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like Steve Madden. 1118 00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:43,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all have some really keep it up. That's really cy. 1119 00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:47,000 Speaker 2: But I love serving on the board amazing I do. 1120 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:52,320 Speaker 3: But Africa has so much to offer investments, opportunities. 1121 00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,440 Speaker 2: I even know people in your field. 1122 00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:56,879 Speaker 1: I have a friend, She's been very open. Gail Bean 1123 00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:57,960 Speaker 1: has a house in Acre. 1124 00:50:59,320 --> 00:50:59,919 Speaker 2: Yes, a cross. 1125 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,480 Speaker 3: But let me tell you there are people who couldn't 1126 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,600 Speaker 3: get through the door here, but got through the door there. 1127 00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,320 Speaker 3: I'm talking folks you wouldn't know who they were. And 1128 00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,319 Speaker 3: now I got millions of followers, and I'm just like, 1129 00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:13,040 Speaker 3: oh my gosh because of the opportunities on the continent. 1130 00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,440 Speaker 1: And I love the TV and film industry. They're like that. 1131 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,560 Speaker 1: Some of my favorite shows are in Africa. You a 1132 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:22,200 Speaker 1: Blood and Water watch Oh my goodness, Pola. Yes, I 1133 00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 1: met the other sister. I said, next time, Oh, I 1134 00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,759 Speaker 1: love it. Last year, yes, I love it. 1135 00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,080 Speaker 2: I'm like you, Yes, Blood and Water. I just watched it. 1136 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,960 Speaker 2: She's like, yes, that's one of my favorite so good. 1137 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:39,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. And the production quality is fantasy second to is incredible. 1138 00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,560 Speaker 3: Now South Africa, it's eighteen to one. I have a 1139 00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:47,960 Speaker 3: girlfriend there. Yes, she runs actually an agency, a talent agency. 1140 00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,839 Speaker 3: Used to work at Innerscope. Now that she's there, her 1141 00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:52,719 Speaker 3: and her husband and their kids. She said, Arian had 1142 00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:54,799 Speaker 3: I known I could get stuff at this level for 1143 00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,080 Speaker 3: this price, She said, I had three more kids. Wow, 1144 00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,400 Speaker 3: she said, I'm just past childbeard, but I would have 1145 00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:01,080 Speaker 3: had three more. 1146 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,279 Speaker 2: Kids because she's like my house staff. You know, it 1147 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,719 Speaker 2: is very expensive. They have so much help. Oh yeah. 1148 00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:08,920 Speaker 3: I walked in the door. They pulled off champagne everything. 1149 00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,360 Speaker 3: I'm at this gorgeous house of hers And I said, girl, 1150 00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,640 Speaker 3: what does this cost? She said about five hundred thousand, 1151 00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:19,400 Speaker 3: she said, but you know this over there in America 1152 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:20,839 Speaker 3: would have been millions. 1153 00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:21,200 Speaker 1: Yes. 1154 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:26,160 Speaker 3: Wow, so eighteen in Africa. 1155 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,120 Speaker 2: That's not your favorite place where I am queen. 1156 00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,480 Speaker 3: I will say this, it's not a still it's a 1157 00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,400 Speaker 3: little midget midget less. 1158 00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,160 Speaker 2: No, it's midget less, but it's you don't see. 1159 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:38,400 Speaker 3: It, so it's not you're going to get that feeling 1160 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,160 Speaker 3: of Oh no, five hundred thousand. 1161 00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:41,000 Speaker 2: It's five hundred. 1162 00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,399 Speaker 1: Thousand, right, got it? 1163 00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,239 Speaker 2: God? Yes, wow, I love that, Aaron. 1164 00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,520 Speaker 1: I really enjoyed this conversation. I have to. 1165 00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:50,959 Speaker 3: I feel like we're just sitting in your house, Yes, 1166 00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,680 Speaker 3: just having us a good time in our pajamas. 1167 00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:55,840 Speaker 2: Yes, we'll have to do that again. 1168 00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, and really have a good time. 1169 00:52:58,440 --> 00:52:58,720 Speaker 3: Yes. 1170 00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,040 Speaker 1: Before we go, I want to play a game of 1171 00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,040 Speaker 1: this or That's okay? 1172 00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:03,840 Speaker 2: Are you ready. 1173 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:08,960 Speaker 1: All right, let's see we got angel versus seed investment. 1174 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,800 Speaker 1: You said angel, angel investment or seed investment. 1175 00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,800 Speaker 2: And I pick one one or the other. Yeah, okay, 1176 00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:19,600 Speaker 2: what's the outcome? 1177 00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,319 Speaker 1: She is such a business when she's like, no, what. 1178 00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:30,400 Speaker 2: Just say just pick one seed investment. 1179 00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:33,040 Speaker 1: Okay, success versus failure? 1180 00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:37,880 Speaker 2: Said, success versus failure. 1181 00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,160 Speaker 1: And this could be a have a caveat. 1182 00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,600 Speaker 2: I know, because people will pick failure because they actually 1183 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:43,440 Speaker 2: get to learn from it. 1184 00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:44,920 Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking. 1185 00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:50,480 Speaker 2: She's like, I don't want to fail. It's not a 1186 00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,520 Speaker 2: bad thing though, so it's like, yikes, I'm gonna go 1187 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:54,719 Speaker 2: for success. Keep going. 1188 00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,120 Speaker 1: Okay, let's do it. Cash versus crypto. 1189 00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:01,160 Speaker 3: Okash, I'm a old school I'm like cash, I'm real old. 1190 00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,120 Speaker 1: I have not gotten into I don't trust it. 1191 00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:03,319 Speaker 3: No. 1192 00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,640 Speaker 2: I did do crypto, and I made a lot of cash. 1193 00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,200 Speaker 3: Really yeah, I took most took most out. This was 1194 00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,080 Speaker 3: I was in it very early early on. 1195 00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:12,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. 1196 00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,080 Speaker 1: It's something that I just really couldn't get into it. 1197 00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:16,319 Speaker 1: And I guess because I'm very old, I won't. 1198 00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,120 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but it's cash. If I got you, I know, 1199 00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:19,600 Speaker 2: that's right. 1200 00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:21,840 Speaker 1: Okay. Investing versus saving. 1201 00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:23,320 Speaker 2: I already know I'm investing. 1202 00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:23,760 Speaker 1: Period. 1203 00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,000 Speaker 3: I don't have the discipline to save. I have the 1204 00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:27,799 Speaker 3: discipline to invest. Don't get me wrong, I have a 1205 00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:31,200 Speaker 3: saving yeah, but I am so disciplined. When I see 1206 00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:35,280 Speaker 3: that money going up, I just want to add, yeah, 1207 00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:35,799 Speaker 3: I have. 1208 00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:37,439 Speaker 2: A discipline for that, right. 1209 00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,759 Speaker 1: I love that last one sneakers versus heels. I think 1210 00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:41,399 Speaker 1: I know this one. 1211 00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:42,160 Speaker 2: I'm a heels. 1212 00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:43,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say I know this one. 1213 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:44,480 Speaker 2: Yes. 1214 00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,120 Speaker 1: So to end the show, we have what is called 1215 00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,080 Speaker 1: positive outcomes, where our listeners right into us and we 1216 00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:57,640 Speaker 1: give them advice. You ready, all right? So Carol Lee? Right? 1217 00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,279 Speaker 1: How can I balance my role as a give and 1218 00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:04,480 Speaker 1: continue supporting others while setting healthy boundaries to protect my 1219 00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:08,000 Speaker 1: own well being and foster a more positive dynamic within 1220 00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:12,880 Speaker 1: my family? So you are a giver and you're supporting, 1221 00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:16,319 Speaker 1: but you want to set boundaries. I've dealt with this 1222 00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:20,640 Speaker 1: where I'm constantly giving and giving and you realize that 1223 00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:22,840 Speaker 1: you're giving isn't helping people learn the lesson? 1224 00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:25,480 Speaker 2: Oh it could be enablement it very much, and then 1225 00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:26,440 Speaker 2: turn to entitlement. 1226 00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:31,359 Speaker 3: I don't think that people who are givers should ever 1227 00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:34,480 Speaker 3: stop giving because I'm a giver. Yeah, I think you 1228 00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,520 Speaker 3: have to be mindful of who you're giving to. 1229 00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:37,239 Speaker 1: That's it. 1230 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:42,239 Speaker 3: Yes, because by default we're gonna give, absolutely, because that's just. 1231 00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,680 Speaker 2: Who we are and how we're wired to be. Yes, 1232 00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,759 Speaker 2: but you have to be mindful of who you're giving to. 1233 00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,640 Speaker 3: So I think the boundary more so is is where 1234 00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:53,240 Speaker 3: I'm giving going to bear fruit? 1235 00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,880 Speaker 2: Right? Yes? And if it is not, then that's not 1236 00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,400 Speaker 2: I'm not giving right right? Got it? 1237 00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:09,320 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Thank you, my gosh, it's fascinating. Yes, 1238 00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:11,200 Speaker 1: thank you for sharing everything with us. 1239 00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,000 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Thank you for having me. Of course 1240 00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:15,200 Speaker 2: I could be here all day. 1241 00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,759 Speaker 1: You know, I'm saying, I'm glad we did this because 1242 00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:19,719 Speaker 1: we have not gotten to talk. We've seen each other 1243 00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,439 Speaker 1: in passing so many times and never got to really 1244 00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:23,000 Speaker 1: sit down. 1245 00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:24,440 Speaker 2: This is amazing. 1246 00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,160 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and we cannot wait for that book out 1247 00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:38,919 Speaker 1: that super excited you're thank you, my goodness. I absolutely 1248 00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:43,520 Speaker 1: enjoyed my conversation with Arian Simone. There were so many gems. 1249 00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:47,680 Speaker 1: I mean, she touched on financial literacy, she touched on entrepreneurship, 1250 00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,799 Speaker 1: she touched on adversity in her journey and how she 1251 00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:54,920 Speaker 1: kept pushing and I think my biggest takeaway from Arian 1252 00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:58,279 Speaker 1: would be to honestly look more into my heritage and 1253 00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,800 Speaker 1: my lineage to see where I'm from. Her talking about 1254 00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,920 Speaker 1: Africa and her being a queen in Africa was so 1255 00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:08,839 Speaker 1: inspiring and it inspired me to really look deeper into 1256 00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:12,000 Speaker 1: my ancestry. For all they say, you don't know where 1257 00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:19,200 Speaker 1: you're going until you know where you come from. Thank 1258 00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,680 Speaker 1: you so much for tuning into today's episode of Keep 1259 00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:25,040 Speaker 1: It Positive, Sweetie. Don't forget to subscribe, leave a review, 1260 00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:28,960 Speaker 1: and share this with someone who could use some positive energy. Also, 1261 00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,760 Speaker 1: don't forget to write into our Positive Outcomes listener letter. 1262 00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,240 Speaker 1: You can write in at keep It Positive Sweetie at 1263 00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:37,080 Speaker 1: gmail dot com. You can follow me on all social 1264 00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,960 Speaker 1: media platforms at love Chris Orinee, and you can follow 1265 00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,360 Speaker 1: our show and keep up with everything at Keep It 1266 00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:46,080 Speaker 1: Positive Sweetie. And remember, guys, no matter what life throws 1267 00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:49,960 Speaker 1: at you, stay focused, stay confident, and as always, keep 1268 00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:50,480 Speaker 1: it positive. 1269 00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:51,000 Speaker 2: Sweeties. 1270 00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:52,400 Speaker 1: I'll see you guys next time.