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Speaker 1: Hi everyone, and welcome back to Unfiltered, the jb L

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Speaker 1: Podcast and I Heart Radio Production in partnership with jb L.

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Speaker 1: I am your host, Betty who it's me Hello. This

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Speaker 1: podcast is a place to minimize the noise and tune

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Speaker 1: into authentic and unfiltered conversations about identity, art, self expression,

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Speaker 1: and so much more. How are you guys doing? Are

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Speaker 1: you holding up? Okay? I'm just really thinking about you

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Speaker 1: all the time. And you know what else, I've been

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Speaker 1: thinking about fashion. Yes, I have been dealing with a

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Speaker 1: lot of expression in my own life through my fashion.

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Speaker 1: My fashion sense has really changed in the last couple

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Speaker 1: of years. I'm definitely experimenting with a bunch of new looks,

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Speaker 1: and so I really wanted to spend today diving into

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Speaker 1: the world of fashion, because, after all, the way we

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Speaker 1: dress is an extension of how we can express ourselves.

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Speaker 1: And so I am so excited you guys to be

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Speaker 1: joined by a seriously impressive fashion designer. I can't believe it.

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Speaker 1: The one and only Matt Saratha is the youngest designer

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Speaker 1: A Fashion Week. Matt has come such a long way

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Speaker 1: since he started designing at age seven, such a baby.

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Speaker 1: If you don't recognize him from Project Runway Jr. You

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Speaker 1: may have seen his celebrity stylings for icons from Tyra

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Speaker 1: Banks What to Doja Cat? So crazy? This boy is

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Speaker 1: so serious. I can't wait to get into it. Come

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Speaker 1: join us. I'm so happy to have you here. I

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Speaker 1: have so many questions for you. You You started designing when

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Speaker 1: you were seven years old, which is so crazy to me.

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Speaker 1: I want to know what got you interested in fashion

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Speaker 1: and style, Like, what are your favorite parts about it?

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Speaker 1: Now that you're so many years in and you're still

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Speaker 1: just a baby, tell me about how you got started. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like you said, I started getting into fashion and seven

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Speaker 1: years old. It was the craziest thing. And I remember

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Speaker 1: it so vividly. My mom was recovering from surgery and

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Speaker 1: I was sitting on the couch with her, flipping through

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Speaker 1: TV channels, and we stumbled across a marathon of Object

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Speaker 1: Runway and this was like a show that I've never

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Speaker 1: seen before, and I was just completely enthralled in it.

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Speaker 1: And I was just so perplexed how these designers could take,

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Speaker 1: on paper and then bring it to life through textiles

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Speaker 1: and creation, and I was just so entranced by it

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Speaker 1: and it was so cool. And my mom still tells

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Speaker 1: me to the stage, She's like, you turned to me

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Speaker 1: and you said, Mom, I think I can do this.

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Speaker 1: And I ran downstairs got my little sketch book and

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Speaker 1: I was sketching out these elaborate designs, and literally the

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Speaker 1: rest is pretty much history. Matt. It's so stinky, it's

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Speaker 1: so cute, it's a really cute it sounds like a movie. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: it's very crazy. And I never would have thought that

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Speaker 1: that TV watching experience would have pretty much changed the

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Speaker 1: trajectory of my entire life. Well, and like, as you said,

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Speaker 1: if these people are taking fabric in texture and its expression, right,

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Speaker 1: you're expressing a part of yourself. It's a part of

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Speaker 1: your personality, and you're trying to take what is inside

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Speaker 1: really so many people don't know how to do. And

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Speaker 1: obviously you have a taste for it at seven years old,

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Speaker 1: and then you just grow into this incredible designer and

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Speaker 1: you're working in this fashion. How do you personally, especially now,

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Speaker 1: use fashion as the extension of your personality. How does

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Speaker 1: that come through? How do you express that part of yourself?

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Speaker 1: How does it change when you're expressing other people and

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Speaker 1: helping them get dressed? Oh my gosh, I mean to me,

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Speaker 1: fashion is such a powerful tool, and it's so much

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Speaker 1: more powerful than people realize. You know, it's so much

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Speaker 1: more than just clothes and shopping and that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 1: Like to me, an outfit is like a suit of armor,

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Speaker 1: and it gives me the confidence to go about my day,

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Speaker 1: put myself out there. And you know, people see what

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Speaker 1: you're wearing when you first walk into the room, and

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Speaker 1: it really says so much about you. It's the first

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Speaker 1: say that all the time exactly, and that's why it's

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Speaker 1: So I love my job. I love fashion so much

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Speaker 1: you know, obviously I love fashion, and I think being

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Speaker 1: Like do you do a lot of mood boarding? Are

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Speaker 1: you a sketcher? Absolutely? So. I graduated from u c

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Speaker 1: thank you. Graduated during the pandemic from my living room

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Speaker 1: pandemic graduation, and you know, I dressed up and had

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Speaker 1: digital media and all these different programs. So now I

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Speaker 1: love watching people work on because it's like also a

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Speaker 1: I think that's really interesting, absolutely, and it's just the

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Speaker 1: opportunities are limitless. Okay, So in your process, how as

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Speaker 1: much as when you're in it and you're deciding for

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Speaker 1: because I have to make everybody else look fabulous, or

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Speaker 1: you like, I am number one. You know you showed

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Speaker 1: I'm making a statement. Are you very like particular about

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Speaker 1: making sure that you are also expressing yourself. I'm never

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Speaker 1: going to let that go. I'm not gonna let none

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Speaker 1: of my clients or none of my customers look bad,

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Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna let myself look bad either. I

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Speaker 1: can't forget about me. I appreciate that. I love that

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Speaker 1: Like if I'm not looking my best, I'm not feeling

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you are wise beyond your years. Matt. That's so

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Speaker 1: great that you already have this, if you can hold

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Speaker 1: Like I really feel like that's a huge part of

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Speaker 1: But I want to go back even further before you

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Speaker 1: when you were seventeen years old? Like, how intense was

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Speaker 1: How was that experience for you? Oh my god, I

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Speaker 1: full circle moment, since you know, Project Runways what really

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Speaker 1: still have to this day. We still have a group chat,

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Speaker 1: we still talk well. Community is really important in your world, right,

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Speaker 1: And so like, how do you feel connected to competition

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Speaker 1: That's ultimately what I want to do when you know

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Speaker 1: leave a mark, and I wanted to be a positive one.

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Speaker 1: I love that. I definitely relate to that sentiment. Do

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Speaker 1: you have like goals speaking of sort of validating ourselves

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Speaker 1: I'm checking that goal off my list. Like, will you

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Speaker 1: share with me some of the things that you've done

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Speaker 1: so far that you're really proud of? I want to

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Speaker 1: know absolutely. I mean, the biggest like accomplishment I think

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Speaker 1: and it's had always been something on my bucket. Liz

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Speaker 1: and I checked that off when I was like twenty

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Speaker 1: It's like my only tattoo because I was so proud

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Speaker 1: people that embrace that and aren't trying to fit in

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Speaker 1: was the same, the world would be such a boring place.

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Speaker 1: Gread Matt. Just always lead with love, lead with positivity,

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Speaker 1: and you know things are never going to be It's

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Speaker 1: That's what builds character. In my book, Yeah, I love that.

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Speaker 1: And also maybe the thing that I thought as you

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Speaker 1: the way, maybe while you're finding yourself. Well, Matt, I'm

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Speaker 1: We've really done it all. So I'm so grateful. This

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Speaker 1: Well now we are old friends, Matt. Thank you so much, Matt.

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Speaker 1: any place, Let's do it. I want to thank Matt

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Speaker 1: again so much for chatting with me today. I'm insanely

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Speaker 1: impressed by his insight and success. Really, there is nothing

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Speaker 1: more fulfilling than getting to share your creativity with others,

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Speaker 1: how long do you think it's gonna take for me

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Speaker 1: for original I'm on a waiting list. I'm sure I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna email somebody, I'm gonna text everybody. We're going to

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Speaker 1: get into it. And that's it for today's episode. But

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