WEBVTT - The War of the Eggs

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<v Speaker 1>Good shit. Damn it, I botched another introduction. I'm Robert Evans.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Behind the Bastards, the podcast that is never

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<v Speaker 1>introduced professionally, despite it being literally my my one job

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<v Speaker 1>to do um in order to distract that Sophie. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone already knows I sucked up. You don't have to.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to jump on, jump on the kick me

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<v Speaker 1>pile here to distract from my failures. Uh Dollie, Wayne Davis, Hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>it's good to be back. I didn't think you've messed

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<v Speaker 1>it up. I thought the enthusiasm was there. That's all

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<v Speaker 1>it really counts. Thank you, Billy, thank you for thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for successfully helping to hype me back up. Now

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<v Speaker 1>my ego has exploded again. I'll lock it up. They're

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<v Speaker 1>real big, it's fun. I just want to I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to publicly say that Robert told me if if

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<v Speaker 1>he ever asks me for green juice, I'm supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>kill him. Yes, that was our rule because of a

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<v Speaker 1>celebrity that she'll not be named ego. Oh, you get

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<v Speaker 1>under the green juice level. I think that's asking you

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<v Speaker 1>can get your own green juice. I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be drinking green juice. If I care about living that

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<v Speaker 1>long ever, then I've lived too long already. Yeah. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have kids. See, we have to think different.

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<v Speaker 1>You got it. You got mad at you. That's good, Billy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a little while. How have you been. I'm good. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>We've all been fighting the powers their own ways. M M.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw some of your fighting the power. You can

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the movie you were in now, I assume

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<v Speaker 1>if it's a secret, it's a bad one. Still, I

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<v Speaker 1>think yeah, I think, yeah. It is fun when people

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<v Speaker 1>ask me like was that you and I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I do not know. Well, Billy, I wasn't bored at

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<v Speaker 1>too you guys were you were And it's a great movie.

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<v Speaker 1>You were great in it. Uh. And you got to

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<v Speaker 1>hang out with some of my favorite Chudu Pacific Northwest. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the people with guns who like to stand

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<v Speaker 1>on street corners and yell at teenagers. That was lovely.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it wasn't like I've told my wife and

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<v Speaker 1>other people. It was like, they're like, were you scared?

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, it was people I grew up or with.

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<v Speaker 1>I know how to talk to them. Yeah, they're not

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<v Speaker 1>they're not super complicated, but you know it is complicated, Billy.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a great transition, Thank you. No, I was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna guess so much stuff in my brain just eggs, eggs.

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<v Speaker 1>You're complicated A lot going on with an egg oh man. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot what podcast I was on and where we

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<v Speaker 1>were going, and I was like, oh, eggs, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, no, this is not gonna go. And

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<v Speaker 1>I like eggs, and now I don't like them. You

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<v Speaker 1>like eggs, so you like eggs. You're on board? Is like,

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<v Speaker 1>eg eggs, that's correct. Yeah, they're far as a diet,

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<v Speaker 1>they're pretty great. How do you feel about war h

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<v Speaker 1>m hm less I feel I mean, at this at

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<v Speaker 1>this point in history, I think it's a silly consent.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you feel about the city of San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm okay, all these things together, I'm on board with Okay. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we're talking about, the egg war that that

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<v Speaker 1>rocked San Francisco for like thirty years back in the

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<v Speaker 1>eight hundreds. Hail. Yeah, yeah, we're talking about silly war

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<v Speaker 1>that I would be involved in. It is some silly bullshit, Billy.

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<v Speaker 1>It is some very very funny, silly bullshit, and it

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<v Speaker 1>starts as most stories of silly bullshit do in the

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<v Speaker 1>city of San Francisco, or at least like the collection

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<v Speaker 1>of tents and whorehouses that became San Francisco eventually, But

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<v Speaker 1>it was really just a campsite with a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>prostitutes back there. Yeah. Yeah, it's always been pretty great.

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<v Speaker 1>It's always it's always been great. Yeah. And the poop

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<v Speaker 1>on the streets thing not new, no, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 1>The abundance I think is the new part. Yeah. Although

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<v Speaker 1>when I was there, I was like, it's not that

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<v Speaker 1>their ship on the street that is not new. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of it, you guys. And they're like, that

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<v Speaker 1>is the problem. That is the problem. And I also

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<v Speaker 1>think the average fiber content per person shipping on the

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<v Speaker 1>street may have increased. That's the theory I have. I think, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, if we're being honest, what happens is when

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<v Speaker 1>you're on heroin, you get constipated and then you release

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<v Speaker 1>all of it at once, is what we're dealing with. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>um so Billy. In eighteen forty eight, the city of

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco's population was a mere eight hundred people, and again,

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<v Speaker 1>it was basically just a big, muddy camp site. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>there were more redwoods than people at this stage. And

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<v Speaker 1>there used to be a shipload of redwoods all over

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco before we murdered all those priceless works of

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<v Speaker 1>natural art so that we could have, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>the wee work buildings. Can you imagine if there were

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<v Speaker 1>redwoods just all over the city now instead of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that are there. Some of the things that are there,

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<v Speaker 1>we're just like, no, like some of them. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>can keep like the five hundred Club, like the good

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<v Speaker 1>bars and ship Yes, that's yeah, all of North Beaches, yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just a bunch of bars and redwoods and nothing else. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of grocery stores. So yeah. On January, a

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<v Speaker 1>carpenter building a mill near Coloma, California, found flakes of

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<v Speaker 1>gold in the water. The news got out, and in

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<v Speaker 1>very short order, tens of thousands of Americans flitted into

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<v Speaker 1>California's first gold rush. And California has kind of always

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<v Speaker 1>been just a series of gold rushes ever since. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why there's forty million people here, because people are dumb

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<v Speaker 1>and they like they like easy money. Um. Also, the

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<v Speaker 1>weather Vegas an't getting smaller, No, no, it's not, thank God.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually the selection, Thank god for last f one time.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say that that is that that you're looking

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<v Speaker 1>at the mat. Huh, I'll be damned. Well they did

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<v Speaker 1>it all right. I guess we'll keep gambling illegal everywhere else.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys earned another four years. Well my thought was

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<v Speaker 1>like with that was like real quick or oh he's

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<v Speaker 1>piste off everyone. Yeah, he's he's got Vegas angry. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're so easy to distract. Yes, Uh yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>is funny that he picked a fight with Philadelphia too. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just you. Yeah, you can't. They'll they'll come to

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<v Speaker 1>they'll cross anile to get in a fight. Uh, speaking

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<v Speaker 1>of fights, you know because the Oakland Raiders this is

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<v Speaker 1>close enough anyway. Uh yeah. So all these people start

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<v Speaker 1>flooding into California because they want to shipload of gold,

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<v Speaker 1>and the city of San Francisco, or the collection of

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<v Speaker 1>tents that became San Francisco, grew rapidly from a population

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<v Speaker 1>of about eight hundred and eighteen forty eight to twenty

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<v Speaker 1>thousand people by eighteen fifty. Um. Yeah, that's a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think of. Have you and we've been to

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<v Speaker 1>those cities like where the population explodes in the infrastructure

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<v Speaker 1>can't really handle it. Just traffic everywhere. Yes, that's just traffic.

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<v Speaker 1>This is like before sewers. Yeah, like you see right

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<v Speaker 1>now in a couple of cities in the world or

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<v Speaker 1>even in the United States. Um, you know, they grew

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<v Speaker 1>too fast. There was a sudden influx of people in

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<v Speaker 1>the infrastructure can't keep up. And it's a problem, going

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<v Speaker 1>from eight hundred to twenty thousand people in two years

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<v Speaker 1>as a calamity. It's like a hurricane hit Like it's

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<v Speaker 1>a natural disaster, you know. Um, And it doesn't it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't go well. It creates a series of problems, most

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<v Speaker 1>of which will actually sound eerily familiar to anyone who

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<v Speaker 1>lives in San Francisco today or who's just like driven

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<v Speaker 1>through it. Uh. And I want to quote here from

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<v Speaker 1>a paragraph in the Anals of San Francisco about the

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<v Speaker 1>city culture during the gold Rush era. Despite the and

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<v Speaker 1>again this is like written in fucking the eighteen fifties,

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<v Speaker 1>despite the amazingly high cost of living and the extraordinary

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<v Speaker 1>opportunities for frittering away money, everyone in daily San Francisco

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<v Speaker 1>was supremely confident that he would be able to return

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<v Speaker 1>home with an incalculable amount of gold. Everything was conceived

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<v Speaker 1>on a vast scale, and there was always plenty of

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<v Speaker 1>cash available for any scheme that might be proposed, no

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<v Speaker 1>matter how impossible or bizarre it seemed. Oh, how the

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<v Speaker 1>times have changed. Yeah, it's a completely different city today. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>you wouldn't write that exact same paragraph about San Francisco

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and sixty years later. It's just that that that

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<v Speaker 1>voice has changed now. It's like now it's like in

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<v Speaker 1>a land of ones and zeros. Yeah, no, bro, you'd

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<v Speaker 1>plenty of cash for any plan you could propose. Yeah. No,

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<v Speaker 1>they're like big cars, but they carry a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 1>you know those busses. No, no, no, because we don't

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<v Speaker 1>pay the driver a salary. Instead he could super mile

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<v Speaker 1>fee based on an app and we don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>give him healthcare. Brilliant, Yeah, brilliant. Why do you see

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm gonna do to Rhodes. That's we're laughing, But

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<v Speaker 1>that's a conversation. Yeah, that is a conversation. I'm excited

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<v Speaker 1>for Rotor without an E, the app to come out

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<v Speaker 1>and privatize the filling of potholes so that there are

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<v Speaker 1>somehow more of them. Um do that it doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 1>So most depictions of San Francisco in the eighteen fifties

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<v Speaker 1>portrayed as again essentially just a pile of brothels, casinos,

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<v Speaker 1>and crude tent neighborhoods filled with filthy male miners. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the first problems that this explosion population had is

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<v Speaker 1>that there were almost no women in the entire city. That's, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not good for the prostitution. Well, it's good for

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<v Speaker 1>the prostitutes that are there. Well that, yeah, it's good

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<v Speaker 1>for Brenda. Brenda is having a good time. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>seller's market for Brenda. Hey, that's so. One miner during

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<v Speaker 1>this period is purported to have acquired a single woman

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<v Speaker 1>slipper and made a good living, charging his fellows a

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<v Speaker 1>dollar to touch it. I know that that you understand

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<v Speaker 1>how that works to do you know what? I just

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<v Speaker 1>thought of times in my life from it, I could

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<v Speaker 1>say I could see making a living doing that, and

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah. A less ethical business person in the same

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<v Speaker 1>field was a Liza Farnham, who operated a boat called

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<v Speaker 1>the Bride Ship that ferried women from the East coast

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<v Speaker 1>to the west, presumably so they could marry. Would schever

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<v Speaker 1>miners had the best luck and uncovering gold. Yeah, time period,

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<v Speaker 1>if we're being honest, that is not the worst way

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<v Speaker 1>people were getting married. No, because there's a decent chance

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<v Speaker 1>you'll die on the boat. That's way better than being

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<v Speaker 1>married back the yea. So, food was, however, by a

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<v Speaker 1>wide margin, the most expensive thing in the city because again, basically,

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<v Speaker 1>no one lived in California at this point. I say

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<v Speaker 1>basically no, like white people lived in California, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Indigenous people were not exactly psyched to help out a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of gold miners, um. And also you know genocide

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<v Speaker 1>and such. Um. So, yeah, there was not a great

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<v Speaker 1>deal of farming infrastructure. There was not a great deal

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<v Speaker 1>of food for this sudden this what had essentially been

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<v Speaker 1>a small town that had turned into what at that

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<v Speaker 1>point was like a mid size city almost overnight. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>they're just like, wasn't fucking food And for an example

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<v Speaker 1>of how like incredibly expensive ship was in San Francisco

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<v Speaker 1>at this point, it was actually worse than it is

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<v Speaker 1>today by comparison. So restaurants in imag because it's incredibly

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<v Speaker 1>expensive to eat. That's my opening joke. The taco My

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<v Speaker 1>opening joke is literally to the crowd like, oh do

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<v Speaker 1>you all are you all roommates? Is that how you

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<v Speaker 1>the whole crowd roommate? And they everyone laughs every time

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<v Speaker 1>because it's funny. Yeah, because they're actually two different households exactly. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So at this period of time in the early eighteen fifties,

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<v Speaker 1>restaurants in town charged a dollar for a slice of

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<v Speaker 1>bread two dollars if it was buttered, which is the

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<v Speaker 1>equivalent of fifty six dollars in modern money. Wow, it's

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<v Speaker 1>neck and neck, it is. That's because San France, where

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<v Speaker 1>that the toast craze came from. Oh, you can get

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<v Speaker 1>some good toast in San Francisco. Look, they've gotten good

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<v Speaker 1>at making toast over the years. I guess it's always

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<v Speaker 1>been a staple. Uh. In eighteen fifty a nice breakfast

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<v Speaker 1>for two, which consisted of cheese, butter, sardines, bread, and

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<v Speaker 1>two beers would cost the equivalent of modern dollars. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's the same, it's the same. Yeah. As it's probably

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<v Speaker 1>clear by now, the real money to be made in

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco ring the gold Rush was not in mining gold,

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<v Speaker 1>but was in selling miners the things that they needed

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<v Speaker 1>it radically inflated prices, which is kind of the same.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a fun story from Redding, California, which is the

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<v Speaker 1>center of the marijuana industry that nobody ever talks about

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<v Speaker 1>because nobody wants to think about reading all that much.

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<v Speaker 1>Just on the highway, so it's easy. It's where they

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the sales. Yeah, and it's it's a

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<v Speaker 1>good growing area all around it because it's dry but

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<v Speaker 1>also hot, like people talk about Humboldt, but it's a

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<v Speaker 1>bit wet there. Um. One of the big things that

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<v Speaker 1>is like a major product in the pot industry of

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<v Speaker 1>turkey bags, which is what you put the pot into

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<v Speaker 1>when you process it. And they're the bags that you

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<v Speaker 1>would brian a turkey in. And the company that made

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<v Speaker 1>these bags noticed that year round they were selling a

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<v Speaker 1>shipload of turkey bags in Redding, California. So they said,

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<v Speaker 1>like a representative out to figure out, like people just

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<v Speaker 1>eating turkey all year round in this town. And then

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<v Speaker 1>he found out and he had to like quietly go

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<v Speaker 1>back home, like we can't really advertise on this. I

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<v Speaker 1>just this is just interviewed a lady in southern Humboldt.

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<v Speaker 1>And during the camp days, a bunch of revenuers is like,

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<v Speaker 1>as I as I was pointed out they said the

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<v Speaker 1>rs I was like, well, moonshine, they call the revenuers

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<v Speaker 1>and there again and they went this guy was selling

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<v Speaker 1>uh black pipe and he sold way anyone ever had

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<v Speaker 1>ever ever sold ever. And they're like, let me see

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<v Speaker 1>your books that. The old man was like, nah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't need to know why I'm selling this much

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<v Speaker 1>of this stuff because if because you guys will make

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<v Speaker 1>them stop doing this. And I like money, man, I

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<v Speaker 1>ain't doing anything illegal. I just like that. The old

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<v Speaker 1>man was like, no, no, I ain't turning that money

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<v Speaker 1>fountain officer, nothing I need to be doing that. So

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing is happening in San Francisco. During this period.

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<v Speaker 1>People are figuring out the people who are really making

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<v Speaker 1>money aren't mining gold. They're mining miners, you know, um

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah. The most intelligent of them realize that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the easiest thing to sell miners and the most profitable

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<v Speaker 1>thing would be food, um, and sex. But there was

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<v Speaker 1>more competition in the sex business. Now. The most desired

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<v Speaker 1>food stuff in all of the Bay Area was eggs.

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<v Speaker 1>Not only are eggs filled with protein, they're necessary ingredient

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<v Speaker 1>in all manner of pastries and cakes. You know, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't make fucking bagels or whatever without or whatever. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, you cant of together without eggs. Yeah, they're

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<v Speaker 1>critical and a last for the growing polity gold rush.

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<v Speaker 1>Arai San Francisco was completely the funk out of eggs.

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<v Speaker 1>The problems started when the first ten thousand men are

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<v Speaker 1>so flooded into the city and devoured every single chicken

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<v Speaker 1>and rooster that they could get their hands on, like

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<v Speaker 1>a whole word of protein hungry locusts. They just ate everything,

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<v Speaker 1>like there's enough chicken to feed eight hundred people. People

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<v Speaker 1>move in and eat it all overnight, and suddenly there's

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<v Speaker 1>no more birds to lay eggs. Uh. Now, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>quite certain why, but no additional birds arrived for years

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<v Speaker 1>to restock the Bay area's farms. And this is a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a historical mystery because both southern California and

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<v Speaker 1>Baja had farms and had chickens, and even in eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>forty nine, it wouldn't have been hard to send a

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<v Speaker 1>few boatloads of birds up the coast um and there

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<v Speaker 1>are different theories about why none of them actually were,

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<v Speaker 1>Like there were no just no populations of breeding chickens

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<v Speaker 1>in the Bay area. One of the theories comes from

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<v Speaker 1>an artist named Eva Croissant, who was one of the

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<v Speaker 1>world's top experts on the very weird subject of today's episodes,

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<v Speaker 1>and she cites some convincing evidence that a mix of

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<v Speaker 1>two factors contributed to the lack of poultry. Number One,

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<v Speaker 1>chicken feed wasn't terribly short supply, and thus chickens were

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<v Speaker 1>primarily fed garbage, which didn't help their health. And some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of horrible bird plague kept killing off imported birds,

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<v Speaker 1>because we do have cases of people bringing in birds

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<v Speaker 1>and then the lull die basically overnight. So for whatever

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<v Speaker 1>the cause was, it was impossible to establish a population

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<v Speaker 1>of chickens in the city of San Francisco for years.

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<v Speaker 1>As a result of this, in a city famed for gold,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most valuable items was the humble HNN egg.

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<v Speaker 1>It was not uncommon for eggs to be imported from

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<v Speaker 1>as far away from Chile, like they're they're bringing Chilean

0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:17.760
<v Speaker 1>eggs into San Francisco because there's no laying eggs. And

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<v Speaker 1>you see that, I think, yeah, and I I could

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<v Speaker 1>see those assholes still doing stuff like that today. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a Chilean egg. Motherfucker. That's you're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>pay a lot of money for these Chilean chickens. You

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<v Speaker 1>know where Chili is. No, Yeah, it's real, real fancy.

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<v Speaker 1>The eggs very they feed the chicken setting. So the

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<v Speaker 1>price of eggs at its peak was near the equivalent

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<v Speaker 1>of thirty dollars in a modern dollars an egg in

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco. Um, yeah, I know some people who would

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<v Speaker 1>be very rich based on their backyards if that was

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<v Speaker 1>still the case. One journalist at the time noted that

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<v Speaker 1>the city of San Francisco was desperate for eggs and

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<v Speaker 1>that a fortune would be made by any man or

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<v Speaker 1>woman daring enough to figure out how to provide them.

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<v Speaker 1>And it just so happened, Billy, that twenty six miles

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<v Speaker 1>off the coast of the Bay lay the fire Aland Islands,

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<v Speaker 1>known as the Islands of the Dead to the coast

0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:20.040
<v Speaker 1>Miwalk tribe. The fire Lands are some of the least

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<v Speaker 1>pleasant land on planet Earth. Two hundred and eleven acres

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<v Speaker 1>of rocky cliffs and outcroppings of solid granite. They're basically giant,

0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:30.520
<v Speaker 1>sharp boulders in the middle of the sea. That I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to say, it's like it just sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>big rocks. Yeah, they're huge, deadly rocks. One representative of

0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:38.560
<v Speaker 1>the National Marine Sanctuary described them as looking like a

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<v Speaker 1>piece of the moon that fell into the sea. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the far Lands have never hosted human populations naturally, like

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<v Speaker 1>like the indigenous people didn't live there. They call them

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<v Speaker 1>the Islands of the dead. Like, don't fucking go there,

0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:52.439
<v Speaker 1>you'll get killed. It's a bad place to be, partly

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<v Speaker 1>because the seas around them are incredibly rough, and until

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<v Speaker 1>people had kind of like more modern boats, even when

0:18:57.840 --> 0:19:00.399
<v Speaker 1>people had modern boats, boats crashed into them all of

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<v Speaker 1>the goddamn time. I was gonna say, it's still just

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<v Speaker 1>it's needless, you guys, you don't need to do this. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And there was really nothing there. The island's only natural

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<v Speaker 1>inhabitants were hordes of sea lions and hundreds of thousands

0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:16.879
<v Speaker 1>of birds. The most common species was called the common mirror.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a small ocean bird with exactly one note where

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<v Speaker 1>the attribute. Its eggs are the size of soft balls,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's smaller than a chicken, but it's eggs are

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<v Speaker 1>like twice the size of a chicken's eggs. Now Mere

0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:29.280
<v Speaker 1>eggs are actually if you look them up online. They're

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<v Speaker 1>really cool looking eggs. I kind of want to get

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<v Speaker 1>some and try them. They're rounded at the bottom and

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<v Speaker 1>narrow on the top, kind of like one of those

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<v Speaker 1>Russian nesting dolls. Um And it's theorized that this is

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<v Speaker 1>because they lay them on the sides of cliffs and

0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:44.000
<v Speaker 1>stops them from like rolling over. I really need. They're

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<v Speaker 1>very vividly colored. Some of them are like turquoise, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're covered in like black markings that look almost like

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<v Speaker 1>alien handwriting. They're like like a nice like a nice

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<v Speaker 1>mug from like from like, yeah, they look like somebody

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<v Speaker 1>in Taus made them, and like, yeah, that's what you described.

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought of Aunt I had. I'm like, she

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<v Speaker 1>would love this. Side note question, Billy, when I said,

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<v Speaker 1>do you want to come back on behind the Pastors?

0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Did you think we would be talking about hex? I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I never know. I didn't. I didn't think that the

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<v Speaker 1>president of the United States that would discuss stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>we had discussed the bleach that was like, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like that. I'm ahead of this. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Yeah, I'm not. I'm not wild about the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that the thing that we laughed at because it

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<v Speaker 1>was absurd was then urged for people to do by

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<v Speaker 1>the president during a pandemic. Yeah, when everyone was joking

0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:50.639
<v Speaker 1>about it. When it happened, I was like, this isn't good.

0:20:50.840 --> 0:20:54.399
<v Speaker 1>This is a problem. People are gonna die. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, people are already doing this, and if the

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<v Speaker 1>president mentions it, it's not good. People are like, inn't

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<v Speaker 1>this funny. I'm like, I wish it was a dude.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the thing. That's what's beautiful about the thing that

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<v Speaker 1>happened with the Four Seasons because most of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that people have thought was funny that have happened this

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<v Speaker 1>year aren't really funny if you understand what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>They're terrifying. That one was actually that's just perfect. Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>I did. I laughed that laugh where I didn't make

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<v Speaker 1>noise when I first read about it because I was

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<v Speaker 1>like I did that thing where I was like, who's

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<v Speaker 1>behind like, because I was like some comedian did this

0:21:32.200 --> 0:21:37.480
<v Speaker 1>is very funny? Yeah? I did do that. Did you

0:21:37.520 --> 0:21:40.880
<v Speaker 1>also do like the dry heat? Because it was like

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<v Speaker 1>it was like my little toddler crying where I was

0:21:43.920 --> 0:21:45.720
<v Speaker 1>like the harder I thought about it, the more I

0:21:45.760 --> 0:21:49.560
<v Speaker 1>was like that is, it's every now and then Karma's

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<v Speaker 1>just like here you go. What was even What was

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<v Speaker 1>even better about that one was being able to share

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<v Speaker 1>it with people who hadn't seen the story yet and

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<v Speaker 1>then got to appreciate their initial laugh about it's still funny. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>that eggs my bad. Perfect, No, Sophie, not back to eggs,

0:22:07.000 --> 0:22:09.800
<v Speaker 1>because we're professionals and that means it's time to go

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<v Speaker 1>to ads. Oh see, Sophie, sometimes I bring us to

0:22:14.840 --> 0:22:16.840
<v Speaker 1>ads and you don't warn me because I remember and

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<v Speaker 1>you don't. So there you go. I'm a hack on

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<v Speaker 1>a fraud, Robert. I'll fire myself now you're making me

0:22:22.960 --> 0:22:26.879
<v Speaker 1>feel bad. It was a harsh treatment. You really you

0:22:26.920 --> 0:22:29.479
<v Speaker 1>really spun that back at me. Now the guns pointed

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<v Speaker 1>in the other direction, just like Raytheon brand shoot yourself

0:22:34.800 --> 0:22:37.840
<v Speaker 1>in the face rifles. Wanted a rifle that you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen? Ye, I don't know. That's not my best

0:22:41.240 --> 0:22:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Raytheon joke. Nope, but I'll take it. I'm sorry, ads,

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<v Speaker 1>we're back. Uh well, Billy eggs, eggs eggs. So I

0:23:01.720 --> 0:23:04.480
<v Speaker 1>do suggest looking up mirror eggs because they're they're kind

0:23:04.480 --> 0:23:07.680
<v Speaker 1>of fucking awesome. Actually, they really neat eggs. Uh there

0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:10.480
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, they're they're edible, um, although they have a

0:23:10.520 --> 0:23:13.960
<v Speaker 1>red yolk and a bluish tint um that most people

0:23:14.000 --> 0:23:20.040
<v Speaker 1>describe as unsettling to eat. Uh. And they yeah, because

0:23:20.080 --> 0:23:23.360
<v Speaker 1>it's like a weird color. And it's not it's not terrible,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not super appetizing. Um. But there were a

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<v Speaker 1>funckload of them. A few sailors over the years had

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<v Speaker 1>stopped off at the fire lands and found that during

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<v Speaker 1>big chunks of the summer it was covered in just

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<v Speaker 1>piles of tens of thousands of eggs um. And while

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<v Speaker 1>they wouldn't taste great fried, they worked perfectly if you

0:23:41.080 --> 0:23:42.760
<v Speaker 1>mixed them in the dough. You could bake with them

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<v Speaker 1>and you wouldn't notice that you were using a hen egg.

0:23:45.320 --> 0:23:46.960
<v Speaker 1>And they're twice as big as a hen egg. So

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<v Speaker 1>they really go a long way towards alleviating the the

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<v Speaker 1>egg shortage. And I'm gonna quote from the Smithsonian here.

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<v Speaker 1>Stale mirror eggs had a strong fishy aftertaste in the

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<v Speaker 1>words of one commenter, and overripe mirror egg is something

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<v Speaker 1>never to be for gotten. It requires about three months

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<v Speaker 1>to get the taste out of the mouth. As a result,

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<v Speaker 1>the eggers inaugurated each harvest season by smashing all of

0:24:06.880 --> 0:24:09.359
<v Speaker 1>the mere eggs on the island, thereby ensuring the collection

0:24:09.359 --> 0:24:12.280
<v Speaker 1>of freshly laid eggs. So when people started harvesting these

0:24:12.280 --> 0:24:14.000
<v Speaker 1>eggs which we were about to get into, you would

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<v Speaker 1>have to break all of the eggs that were there

0:24:15.720 --> 0:24:17.960
<v Speaker 1>when you arrived, because it would force the mirrors to

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<v Speaker 1>lay new eggs. And then you would take those eggs

0:24:20.320 --> 0:24:23.359
<v Speaker 1>and bring them back home. And if you're thinking was

0:24:23.400 --> 0:24:28.359
<v Speaker 1>this bad for the mirror population, yes, yeah, no I

0:24:29.080 --> 0:24:32.680
<v Speaker 1>was as soon as you said commerce, these birds are fucked.

0:24:34.760 --> 0:24:37.200
<v Speaker 1>They don't do great. So bit by bit people started

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about how all the eggs on this island

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<v Speaker 1>might be able to satisfy the Bay area's deep hunger

0:24:41.600 --> 0:24:44.399
<v Speaker 1>for pastries. The first man to try and make a

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<v Speaker 1>fortune off of Farrell and Eggs was an adventurer from

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<v Speaker 1>Maine named Doc Robinson. He'd heard whispers of mere eggs

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<v Speaker 1>in the saloons and gambling dens on the waterfronts. In

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<v Speaker 1>the spring of eighteen forty nine, Doc and his brother

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<v Speaker 1>Oran chartered a boat and headed to the islands. They

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<v Speaker 1>found them absolutely covered in birds, hundreds of thousands of mirrors.

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<v Speaker 1>The men loaded their boats so full of eggs that

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<v Speaker 1>they could barely fit inside it. And I'm gonna quote

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<v Speaker 1>now from the book The Devil's Teeth by Susan Casey.

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<v Speaker 1>Robinson and Dorman loaded their boat with eggs and headed

0:25:12.840 --> 0:25:15.480
<v Speaker 1>back to San Francisco, coming up against a nasty storm

0:25:15.520 --> 0:25:17.720
<v Speaker 1>and dumping half their cargo into the ocean just to

0:25:17.760 --> 0:25:20.480
<v Speaker 1>stay upright. Nonetheless, they sold the remaining eggs for a

0:25:20.520 --> 0:25:24.240
<v Speaker 1>dollar a dozen and pocketed three thousand dollars, serious money

0:25:24.240 --> 0:25:27.000
<v Speaker 1>in those days. Robinson opened his own burlesque call, another

0:25:27.040 --> 0:25:29.760
<v Speaker 1>big growth segment of the fledged in California economy, and

0:25:29.800 --> 0:25:32.119
<v Speaker 1>neither man ever went back to the fire loans, but

0:25:32.200 --> 0:25:35.560
<v Speaker 1>others did. Within a week of the successful egg sale,

0:25:35.600 --> 0:25:39.240
<v Speaker 1>Southeast Fareland was swarming with eggers. In keeping with the

0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:42.520
<v Speaker 1>land grabbing ethos, six men immediately staked their claim, declaring

0:25:42.560 --> 0:25:45.240
<v Speaker 1>that the islands belonged to them exclusively due to rights

0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:48.919
<v Speaker 1>of possession, and incorporating as the Fireland Egg Company. Egging

0:25:48.920 --> 0:25:50.960
<v Speaker 1>the lucrative proved a tough way to make a living.

0:25:51.160 --> 0:25:53.920
<v Speaker 1>The season spanned eight flurried weeks between May and July,

0:25:54.119 --> 0:25:56.440
<v Speaker 1>during which time, it was man against mirror, and both

0:25:56.440 --> 0:25:59.800
<v Speaker 1>parties against the goals, climbing near vertical rises of crumbling

0:26:00.040 --> 0:26:02.480
<v Speaker 1>and it. The eggers carried clubs in their free hands

0:26:02.520 --> 0:26:04.840
<v Speaker 1>to fend off the attacking birds at the same time

0:26:04.880 --> 0:26:08.200
<v Speaker 1>stuffing the eggs and especially designed egg shirts. Giant gunny

0:26:08.200 --> 0:26:12.919
<v Speaker 1>sacks with multiple pockets scalp wounds were common. So I

0:26:13.040 --> 0:26:18.920
<v Speaker 1>just have no I mean, I've never wanted a fortune

0:26:18.960 --> 0:26:22.760
<v Speaker 1>that bad. I don't think. Yeah, and it's it's not

0:26:22.800 --> 0:26:25.400
<v Speaker 1>even a fortune because these guys. After the first guy,

0:26:25.600 --> 0:26:27.840
<v Speaker 1>he makes a fortune, right, he makes sense to me.

0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:30.200
<v Speaker 1>You go out, you have like one real shitty weekend,

0:26:30.520 --> 0:26:33.760
<v Speaker 1>and you come back alive, and you buy a burlesque

0:26:33.800 --> 0:26:37.520
<v Speaker 1>call and you sell sex for the rest of your life. Um, under,

0:26:37.560 --> 0:26:40.959
<v Speaker 1>I understand that these guys are like day laborers. And

0:26:40.960 --> 0:26:45.280
<v Speaker 1>it's it's so bad because the goals eat the mirror eggs,

0:26:45.320 --> 0:26:47.399
<v Speaker 1>so like while you're climbing up the rock, they're like

0:26:47.720 --> 0:26:50.200
<v Speaker 1>die of bombing you and like biting into your skull

0:26:50.240 --> 0:26:54.520
<v Speaker 1>and clawing at you to get at eggs. Ah, it's

0:26:54.520 --> 0:26:58.920
<v Speaker 1>a bad gig. It just sounds like a metaphor for

0:26:59.160 --> 0:27:03.120
<v Speaker 1>modern day San Francis. Yeah, yeah, it's not any different today.

0:27:03.680 --> 0:27:08.200
<v Speaker 1>I would describe what they're doing is like driving for Uber, yes,

0:27:08.600 --> 0:27:16.080
<v Speaker 1>but more ethical. Yeah, though it's a it's a fair wage, Yeah, yeah, exactly.

0:27:16.119 --> 0:27:18.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure they were getting a better wage than Uber driving.

0:27:19.560 --> 0:27:24.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh man. Yeah. So. Harper's magazine sent a journalist down

0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:26.080
<v Speaker 1>to the fire Allons in the eighteen sixties to look

0:27:26.080 --> 0:27:28.960
<v Speaker 1>at the egging operation, and we have from that reporter

0:27:29.080 --> 0:27:31.679
<v Speaker 1>a first hand account of of what it was actually like.

0:27:31.760 --> 0:27:38.960
<v Speaker 1>And I'm gonna just hand making vomit noises. From fifteen

0:27:38.960 --> 0:27:41.119
<v Speaker 1>to twenty men are employed during the egging season and

0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:43.280
<v Speaker 1>collecting and shipping the eggs. They live on the island

0:27:43.359 --> 0:27:46.440
<v Speaker 1>during that time and rude shanties near the usual landing place.

0:27:46.680 --> 0:27:48.640
<v Speaker 1>The work is not amusing, for the birds seek out

0:27:48.680 --> 0:27:51.280
<v Speaker 1>the least accessible places, and the men must follow, climbing,

0:27:51.320 --> 0:27:53.640
<v Speaker 1>often where a goat would be. All would almost hesitate,

0:27:53.880 --> 0:27:55.840
<v Speaker 1>But this is not the worst. The goal sits on

0:27:55.840 --> 0:27:57.960
<v Speaker 1>her nest and resists the robber who comes for her eggs,

0:27:57.960 --> 0:27:59.879
<v Speaker 1>and he must take care not to get bitten. The

0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:02.359
<v Speaker 1>mere remains until her enemy is close upon her. Then

0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:04.879
<v Speaker 1>she rises with a scream, which often startles a thousand

0:28:04.920 --> 0:28:06.840
<v Speaker 1>or two of the birds who whirl up into the

0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:09.560
<v Speaker 1>air in a dense mask, scattering filth and guano all

0:28:09.560 --> 0:28:13.560
<v Speaker 1>over the aggres. So just ship clouds raining down on

0:28:13.600 --> 0:28:16.960
<v Speaker 1>you and into your open scalp wounds from the goals

0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:19.240
<v Speaker 1>that have dive fopped you as you're doing your job,

0:28:20.200 --> 0:28:24.800
<v Speaker 1>almost as high because you're you're you're really high up,

0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:27.440
<v Speaker 1>so don't you go. Yeah yeah, and if you fall,

0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:31.960
<v Speaker 1>you'll die horribly. Um and yeah, it was. The men

0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:34.520
<v Speaker 1>who did the job tended to be as shady as

0:28:34.520 --> 0:28:36.679
<v Speaker 1>you would expect of people who are willing to do

0:28:36.720 --> 0:28:39.840
<v Speaker 1>that kind of work. The egg company hired mainly Greek

0:28:39.840 --> 0:28:42.760
<v Speaker 1>and Italian immigrants who were comfortable with danger and desperate

0:28:42.760 --> 0:28:45.200
<v Speaker 1>for money. And we all know what Italians are like,

0:28:45.360 --> 0:28:50.960
<v Speaker 1>right I don't. It's very anti Italian show billy. Yeah, No,

0:28:51.120 --> 0:28:55.120
<v Speaker 1>it's fine, it's fine. I know what they're like. Yeah.

0:28:55.400 --> 0:28:57.800
<v Speaker 1>So the rocks they scrambled up and down were slick

0:28:57.840 --> 0:28:59.960
<v Speaker 1>with water, and bird ship men fell all the time,

0:29:00.160 --> 0:29:02.760
<v Speaker 1>often from great heights. When workers died, they were just

0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:05.840
<v Speaker 1>entered into the company log books as missing. For an

0:29:05.880 --> 0:29:12.320
<v Speaker 1>example of one death. Oh man, yeah, it's funny, and

0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:14.680
<v Speaker 1>I was okay, I'm making a bad joke with the

0:29:14.680 --> 0:29:16.680
<v Speaker 1>shadiness of the Italians. But one of the aspects of

0:29:16.680 --> 0:29:18.480
<v Speaker 1>this that's really interesting is that a lot of the

0:29:18.520 --> 0:29:21.880
<v Speaker 1>Italians involved in this were like leftist labor organizers and

0:29:21.920 --> 0:29:23.680
<v Speaker 1>this was just like the only work they could get

0:29:24.040 --> 0:29:26.960
<v Speaker 1>because it was a bad time to be a part

0:29:27.000 --> 0:29:31.440
<v Speaker 1>of organized labor, especially as things get into the eighteen sixties. Um.

0:29:31.560 --> 0:29:33.680
<v Speaker 1>So that's a dimension of all of this too, is

0:29:33.720 --> 0:29:37.360
<v Speaker 1>that there's like these these guys who are kind of

0:29:37.480 --> 0:29:42.480
<v Speaker 1>locked out of the main economy because of you know, uh,

0:29:43.520 --> 0:29:46.640
<v Speaker 1>companies not companies not wanting to hire people who want

0:29:46.640 --> 0:29:49.080
<v Speaker 1>to stand up for their rights as labors, so instead

0:29:49.120 --> 0:29:56.320
<v Speaker 1>they get dive bombed and covered and ship. Um it's yeah,

0:29:56.440 --> 0:29:57.720
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to know, you don't want to work

0:29:57.760 --> 0:30:02.680
<v Speaker 1>for the man, you can work for the birds. Well,

0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:06.240
<v Speaker 1>and then it's also probably one of those gigs you

0:30:06.320 --> 0:30:08.760
<v Speaker 1>don't know one tails you what it's really like, and

0:30:08.800 --> 0:30:12.880
<v Speaker 1>then you learn what it's like when you get out there. Yeah,

0:30:13.000 --> 0:30:15.440
<v Speaker 1>And the point I'm making by bringing this up is

0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:16.840
<v Speaker 1>that a lot of these guys, a lot of them

0:30:17.040 --> 0:30:19.800
<v Speaker 1>did have you know, some sort of criminal background. The others,

0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:22.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, being a labor organizer in this period means

0:30:22.400 --> 0:30:23.840
<v Speaker 1>you've been in a lot of street fights. And the

0:30:23.840 --> 0:30:26.400
<v Speaker 1>point I'm making is that these are really tough people

0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:29.000
<v Speaker 1>who are comfortable with violence, and that's going to matter

0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:32.400
<v Speaker 1>in a bit. Yeah. Yeah, But first I want to

0:30:32.440 --> 0:30:35.560
<v Speaker 1>talk about people dying on the job, because that's always fun.

0:30:35.760 --> 0:30:38.640
<v Speaker 1>It's can I just say, let's do the job pitch

0:30:39.040 --> 0:30:42.960
<v Speaker 1>where if if you're just like, okay, yeah, you gotta

0:30:43.000 --> 0:30:45.800
<v Speaker 1>ride a boat out there. Okay, that's fine. I don't

0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:49.120
<v Speaker 1>care about that, and then you like heights trick, I

0:30:49.160 --> 0:30:52.360
<v Speaker 1>don't care about that, like caney climb yeah, who you

0:30:52.400 --> 0:30:54.640
<v Speaker 1>just climb up there and get that egg, all right. Also,

0:30:54.720 --> 0:30:58.680
<v Speaker 1>the birds will they're gonna try to hurt you, all right,

0:31:00.840 --> 0:31:03.920
<v Speaker 1>and you're gonna get covered and ship there go your

0:31:03.920 --> 0:31:05.840
<v Speaker 1>open head wound. That's what I was gonna say. Yeah,

0:31:05.880 --> 0:31:08.680
<v Speaker 1>they're also you know how clean birds are. They're gonna

0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:14.120
<v Speaker 1>ship in your open wounds. And then that guy goes,

0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:19.640
<v Speaker 1>now I get how much an egg? Yeah, I like

0:31:19.640 --> 0:31:22.560
<v Speaker 1>like ten cents. You know you're getting paid. You're getting paid.

0:31:23.160 --> 0:31:27.760
<v Speaker 1>It's not bad. So for an example of one of

0:31:27.800 --> 0:31:30.120
<v Speaker 1>the kind of one of the ways people died horribly

0:31:30.520 --> 0:31:33.360
<v Speaker 1>doing the egg job. In eight fifty eight, the Daily Alta,

0:31:33.480 --> 0:31:36.440
<v Speaker 1>California reported that an egger quote missed his hold while

0:31:36.520 --> 0:31:38.880
<v Speaker 1>robbing a goal's nest over the edge of a precipice,

0:31:38.880 --> 0:31:41.800
<v Speaker 1>and falling was dashed to pieces on the rocks below.

0:31:42.120 --> 0:31:48.920
<v Speaker 1>That's how you wants Yeah, that's instant. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:31:49.080 --> 0:31:57.120
<v Speaker 1>I hope so, I hope it wasn't slowly dashed to pieces. Uh.

0:31:57.280 --> 0:31:59.640
<v Speaker 1>And you know nobody went for that body. They just said, oh,

0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:03.720
<v Speaker 1>I didn't show up to work today. Yeah, no way

0:32:03.720 --> 0:32:07.800
<v Speaker 1>to know. Send his wife and children a bill for

0:32:07.840 --> 0:32:13.560
<v Speaker 1>the passage over. So the eggers developed a distinctly bleak

0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:15.880
<v Speaker 1>view of their work, due in part to their forbidding

0:32:15.920 --> 0:32:18.280
<v Speaker 1>surroundings and in part due to the death rate. Stories

0:32:18.320 --> 0:32:20.280
<v Speaker 1>began to spread that if an egger spent too much

0:32:20.320 --> 0:32:22.320
<v Speaker 1>time on the islands, he would start to see his

0:32:22.440 --> 0:32:25.120
<v Speaker 1>name spelled out in the markings on the mirror shells.

0:32:25.520 --> 0:32:27.720
<v Speaker 1>But still, the money was good, and the Pacific Egg

0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:30.480
<v Speaker 1>Company was soon harvesting thousands of dollars and eggs every

0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:33.840
<v Speaker 1>single trip. It was not long before other entrepreneurial types

0:32:33.960 --> 0:32:37.520
<v Speaker 1>noticed this, as a journalist for Harper's wrote, of course

0:32:37.600 --> 0:32:39.920
<v Speaker 1>there was an egg war. The prize was too great

0:32:40.000 --> 0:32:44.920
<v Speaker 1>not to be struggled for. Well, yeah, you're gonna have

0:32:44.920 --> 0:32:46.800
<v Speaker 1>a war with the eggs. Yeah, it's good to know

0:32:46.960 --> 0:32:51.120
<v Speaker 1>that the that the press has always been stroking just say,

0:32:51.160 --> 0:32:54.000
<v Speaker 1>any type of war. Yeah, if you guys tried shooting

0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:56.560
<v Speaker 1>at each other yet, I'm gonna stand over here, maybe

0:32:56.560 --> 0:33:01.800
<v Speaker 1>give it a shot. Uh okay from the Devil's Teeth quote.

0:33:01.840 --> 0:33:04.680
<v Speaker 1>There were NonStop dust ups as rifle gangs battled the

0:33:04.720 --> 0:33:07.080
<v Speaker 1>company for the right to harvest the eggs. On more

0:33:07.080 --> 0:33:09.720
<v Speaker 1>than one occasion, soldiers were summoned to calm things down.

0:33:09.960 --> 0:33:13.640
<v Speaker 1>The battles often lasting for weeks, involving threats, fist fights, barricades,

0:33:13.640 --> 0:33:17.000
<v Speaker 1>and small arms, and during those interlude San Franciscan's would

0:33:17.000 --> 0:33:20.680
<v Speaker 1>go eggless once again. Sometimes the ejected gangs would hide

0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:23.360
<v Speaker 1>in see caves instead of sailing back to San Francisco,

0:33:23.640 --> 0:33:25.720
<v Speaker 1>waiting for the authorities to leave so they could take

0:33:25.760 --> 0:33:28.520
<v Speaker 1>another run at the eggs. One tenacious group steered their

0:33:28.520 --> 0:33:31.360
<v Speaker 1>boat inside Great Mirror Cave and remained there for two days,

0:33:31.640 --> 0:33:34.240
<v Speaker 1>during which they were drizzled non stop with guano. The

0:33:34.240 --> 0:33:37.360
<v Speaker 1>ammonia build up inside the cave killed several men and

0:33:37.400 --> 0:33:43.840
<v Speaker 1>the danger. They were piste to death, and the dangers

0:33:43.880 --> 0:33:46.840
<v Speaker 1>didn't stop once the cargo was collected. Boats returned running

0:33:46.840 --> 0:33:49.200
<v Speaker 1>eggs to the mainland were hijacked with regularity, so we

0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:51.840
<v Speaker 1>got egg pirates in the mix. Well that's why, as

0:33:51.880 --> 0:33:54.600
<v Speaker 1>you're describing this, it just made me laugh because I'm like, man,

0:33:54.640 --> 0:33:59.640
<v Speaker 1>if you gamify, humans are down for whatever the fucking prizes. Yeah, yeah,

0:33:59.800 --> 0:34:02.480
<v Speaker 1>wait here, while my friends choked to death on bird piss,

0:34:02.960 --> 0:34:07.600
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna make money, right, will beat those guys. Yeah,

0:34:07.640 --> 0:34:09.120
<v Speaker 1>just as long as I get more eggs than the

0:34:09.120 --> 0:34:15.000
<v Speaker 1>other assholes exactly. Now. What was already a very complicated

0:34:15.000 --> 0:34:18.160
<v Speaker 1>and violent situation was compounded by some decisions the government

0:34:18.200 --> 0:34:20.960
<v Speaker 1>made in eighteen fifty two. They decided to build a

0:34:21.040 --> 0:34:25.760
<v Speaker 1>lighthouse on the Farrelland Islands. This was a sensible call geographically,

0:34:25.880 --> 0:34:28.120
<v Speaker 1>because ships kept running into the rocks in the dead

0:34:28.120 --> 0:34:29.759
<v Speaker 1>of night or during storms. It's a good place for

0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:33.560
<v Speaker 1>a lighthouse, um. But actually building a lighthouse on such

0:34:33.600 --> 0:34:37.239
<v Speaker 1>inhospitable terrain was easier said than done. Stone had to

0:34:37.239 --> 0:34:40.080
<v Speaker 1>be quarried on the island to create the lighthouse. Workmen

0:34:40.080 --> 0:34:42.240
<v Speaker 1>had to haul bricks up the hillside on their backs,

0:34:42.280 --> 0:34:46.040
<v Speaker 1>it was just a miserable, miserable, miserable job. They completed

0:34:46.080 --> 0:34:49.000
<v Speaker 1>construction in eighteen fifty three, and just as they were

0:34:49.040 --> 0:34:51.120
<v Speaker 1>about to begin operation, they had to like the last

0:34:51.160 --> 0:34:52.960
<v Speaker 1>thing they had to do. After spending like more than

0:34:53.000 --> 0:34:56.520
<v Speaker 1>a year agonizingly quarrying rock to build a lighthouse, the

0:34:56.600 --> 0:34:58.520
<v Speaker 1>last thing they had to do was take a lens

0:34:58.600 --> 0:35:01.120
<v Speaker 1>up into the tower. And it's soon as they try

0:35:01.280 --> 0:35:03.759
<v Speaker 1>they realized that the lighthouse wasn't big enough for the

0:35:03.840 --> 0:35:06.120
<v Speaker 1>lens to fit. So they had to knock down the

0:35:06.200 --> 0:35:15.640
<v Speaker 1>lighthouse and rebuild it two years. Oh I think one

0:35:15.760 --> 0:35:18.920
<v Speaker 1>dude about how well it was like halfway up. It's

0:35:18.960 --> 0:35:22.120
<v Speaker 1>like how you get you know what? Never mind, never mind,

0:35:22.280 --> 0:35:24.520
<v Speaker 1>never mind, mind. I'm just not gonna say anything. I'm

0:35:24.520 --> 0:35:28.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna not be here. I'm gonna quit tomorrow. Uh So,

0:35:28.719 --> 0:35:31.359
<v Speaker 1>in eighteen fifty five they finally finished the damn thing.

0:35:31.600 --> 0:35:34.320
<v Speaker 1>Several lighthouse keepers and eventually their families moved on to

0:35:34.400 --> 0:35:38.359
<v Speaker 1>the island as its only permanent residence. Now this immediately

0:35:38.480 --> 0:35:41.440
<v Speaker 1>caused problems with what by then was just called the

0:35:41.480 --> 0:35:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Egg Company. See, the Egg Company claimed to have a

0:35:44.040 --> 0:35:46.560
<v Speaker 1>total monopoly on the island, a fact which was disputed

0:35:46.600 --> 0:35:49.200
<v Speaker 1>by the government and basically everyone else who wasn't the

0:35:49.200 --> 0:35:54.799
<v Speaker 1>Egg company names. No, that's on purpose, like when you

0:35:54.920 --> 0:35:59.200
<v Speaker 1>name your cat cat or tiger. Well no, I think

0:35:59.200 --> 0:36:01.200
<v Speaker 1>what they're doing is like, now there can only be

0:36:01.280 --> 0:36:04.520
<v Speaker 1>one and we are the egg the Egg Company. We

0:36:04.520 --> 0:36:09.399
<v Speaker 1>we will abide no competition. Facebook ship drop the Yeah,

0:36:09.440 --> 0:36:11.959
<v Speaker 1>I mean Facebook was the Egg Company was the first

0:36:11.960 --> 0:36:15.280
<v Speaker 1>investor in Facebook. I think it should just be company.

0:36:17.120 --> 0:36:22.360
<v Speaker 1>Drop the V. I think the the I think the

0:36:22.440 --> 0:36:25.279
<v Speaker 1>V is the key. The is the key, that the

0:36:25.480 --> 0:36:29.560
<v Speaker 1>is the key. So yeah, the Egg Company says, all

0:36:29.600 --> 0:36:32.759
<v Speaker 1>of the eggs and everything else on the fairylands are

0:36:32.760 --> 0:36:35.719
<v Speaker 1>our property, um, which again they have no legal right to.

0:36:35.840 --> 0:36:39.279
<v Speaker 1>But they do have guns. So the lighthouse keepers do

0:36:39.520 --> 0:36:44.000
<v Speaker 1>understand America. They understand America. That said, the government had

0:36:44.000 --> 0:36:46.719
<v Speaker 1>guns too, So the Egg Company couldn't like kick the

0:36:46.800 --> 0:36:53.239
<v Speaker 1>lighthouse keepers off, but they could repeatedly threaten them with violence. Um. Now,

0:36:53.360 --> 0:36:56.719
<v Speaker 1>but the problem what would I don't understand that they

0:36:56.760 --> 0:37:01.160
<v Speaker 1>were like, hey, we'll gonna get you. Yeah. Part of

0:37:01.160 --> 0:37:03.160
<v Speaker 1>the they were like, we don't. You can't. If you're

0:37:03.200 --> 0:37:05.279
<v Speaker 1>going to be here, you can't eat any of the

0:37:05.320 --> 0:37:08.239
<v Speaker 1>eggs or anything else. That's on the island, and they

0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:11.360
<v Speaker 1>were like, but we live here and it's the government's island.

0:37:11.440 --> 0:37:14.160
<v Speaker 1>So that starts the problem, um, and what kind of

0:37:14.200 --> 0:37:17.960
<v Speaker 1>continues it is that. So in eighteen fifty eight, this

0:37:18.000 --> 0:37:20.520
<v Speaker 1>guy named Amos Clift gets hired to be the head

0:37:20.640 --> 0:37:24.719
<v Speaker 1>keeper of the lighthouse, and Amos kind of organize the

0:37:24.719 --> 0:37:26.960
<v Speaker 1>other lighthouse keepers by saying like, hey, guys, our pay

0:37:27.000 --> 0:37:29.560
<v Speaker 1>is complete. Ship, like, we're not getting nearly enough money.

0:37:29.800 --> 0:37:32.960
<v Speaker 1>We have to live in this terrible death island in

0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:36.480
<v Speaker 1>in the ocean where it's always miserable. The least that

0:37:36.520 --> 0:37:38.360
<v Speaker 1>we can should be able to do is make a

0:37:38.400 --> 0:37:41.120
<v Speaker 1>funckload of money selling these eggs like these we have

0:37:41.200 --> 0:37:43.640
<v Speaker 1>a right to this island. The egg company people don't,

0:37:43.800 --> 0:37:48.160
<v Speaker 1>So why why don't we try profiting off of this ship, Like, hey,

0:37:48.239 --> 0:37:52.399
<v Speaker 1>you guys, we've got to have at least one perk here, yeah, yeah,

0:37:52.680 --> 0:37:54.600
<v Speaker 1>and that park should be getting rich off of the

0:37:54.600 --> 0:37:58.759
<v Speaker 1>egg rack. Yeah. Now, the problem is, of course there's

0:37:58.760 --> 0:38:01.360
<v Speaker 1>only a few lighthousekeepers. The Egg Company is basically a

0:38:01.360 --> 0:38:03.880
<v Speaker 1>mafia at this point, including the fact that it's filled

0:38:03.880 --> 0:38:07.680
<v Speaker 1>with Italians. Um. So, for the most part, the outnumbered

0:38:07.680 --> 0:38:10.200
<v Speaker 1>and vulnerable lighthouse crew tried to pick at the margins

0:38:10.200 --> 0:38:15.200
<v Speaker 1>of the company's egg business and avoid direct confrontation. Yeah.

0:38:15.400 --> 0:38:17.720
<v Speaker 1>It worked for a little while. You got a guerrilla

0:38:17.800 --> 0:38:22.720
<v Speaker 1>warfare that Yeah. Amos, however, was kind of impatient. Uh.

0:38:22.800 --> 0:38:25.359
<v Speaker 1>He was not willing to just nibble at the edges.

0:38:25.400 --> 0:38:28.160
<v Speaker 1>He wanted a big cut of that sweet sweet egg company.

0:38:28.480 --> 0:38:31.800
<v Speaker 1>And he was also a heavy drinker um which worked

0:38:31.800 --> 0:38:35.320
<v Speaker 1>at a lighthouse. You know, man, that is that's a

0:38:35.760 --> 0:38:45.480
<v Speaker 1>being ambitious and headstrong and and and an alcoholic. Yeah yeah, so,

0:38:45.640 --> 0:38:49.560
<v Speaker 1>author Susan Casey, he doesn't didn't write about being a drunk.

0:38:49.600 --> 0:38:52.200
<v Speaker 1>But author Susan Casey, who went through all of the

0:38:52.280 --> 0:38:54.360
<v Speaker 1>letters he sent home to his family during this period,

0:38:54.719 --> 0:38:57.480
<v Speaker 1>noticed like the way that he wrote would change over

0:38:57.520 --> 0:38:59.279
<v Speaker 1>the course of a long letter in a way that

0:38:59.320 --> 0:39:04.000
<v Speaker 1>heavily just drinking quote and almost all his letters, which

0:39:04.000 --> 0:39:07.279
<v Speaker 1>tended to run several pages, clifts. Elegant penmanship starts off

0:39:07.320 --> 0:39:10.160
<v Speaker 1>impressively and then morphs into a scrawling mess as the

0:39:10.200 --> 0:39:13.520
<v Speaker 1>handwriting degenerates. The complaints about his post became increasingly bitter,

0:39:13.560 --> 0:39:16.720
<v Speaker 1>and his plans for total egg dominance grow larger in scale,

0:39:17.080 --> 0:39:19.239
<v Speaker 1>and a letter to Horace was one of his family members.

0:39:19.239 --> 0:39:23.360
<v Speaker 1>Written on November fifty nine, he outlined the situation. Before

0:39:23.360 --> 0:39:25.560
<v Speaker 1>I came here, this egg company used to have things

0:39:25.600 --> 0:39:27.399
<v Speaker 1>all their own way. But since I have been here,

0:39:27.440 --> 0:39:29.600
<v Speaker 1>things have taken a turn, and they have ascertained that

0:39:29.640 --> 0:39:31.680
<v Speaker 1>I am not as easily bluffed. I think it will

0:39:31.680 --> 0:39:34.360
<v Speaker 1>now be settled in the egg company driven off the island.

0:39:34.480 --> 0:39:36.480
<v Speaker 1>I shall not abate my efforts in the least, and

0:39:36.480 --> 0:39:42.359
<v Speaker 1>if I succeed, I may perhaps reap the benefits. Uh man,

0:39:43.400 --> 0:39:46.759
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna get the eggs. So imagine, I mean, just

0:39:46.840 --> 0:39:50.840
<v Speaker 1>from the another perspect like the egg company, this dude

0:39:50.880 --> 0:39:54.080
<v Speaker 1>shows up and they're like, it's already a nightmare here,

0:39:56.000 --> 0:39:58.359
<v Speaker 1>like this is hard enough. Do you think that they

0:39:58.360 --> 0:40:03.440
<v Speaker 1>called him a rotten egg? Behind back? Thank you? I've

0:40:03.480 --> 0:40:06.799
<v Speaker 1>been holding them in from the entire podcast. I like

0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:10.319
<v Speaker 1>to think any of these dudes use puns. No, No,

0:40:10.680 --> 0:40:13.279
<v Speaker 1>he was too drunk and too obsessed with eggs. Do

0:40:13.280 --> 0:40:17.200
<v Speaker 1>you want to know who's not too drunken obsessed with eggs? Though, Robert? Oh, Now,

0:40:17.239 --> 0:40:20.480
<v Speaker 1>the people of Raytheon are are big into the egg business.

0:40:20.480 --> 0:40:24.560
<v Speaker 1>In fact, there's the only right now are our friends

0:40:24.560 --> 0:40:28.000
<v Speaker 1>who are behind such wonderful inventions as the missile guidance

0:40:28.080 --> 0:40:30.800
<v Speaker 1>chip for the hell Fire missile and the missile guidance

0:40:30.840 --> 0:40:33.279
<v Speaker 1>chip for the r X nine the Knife missile. Are

0:40:33.400 --> 0:40:35.640
<v Speaker 1>working on a way to shoot eggs right into the

0:40:35.680 --> 0:40:39.360
<v Speaker 1>mouths of hungry people. It speeds exceeding forty feet per second.

0:40:39.760 --> 0:40:42.640
<v Speaker 1>Not rotten eggs, fresh eggs. We were trying to fade

0:40:42.680 --> 0:40:46.399
<v Speaker 1>him to perfection. Only the fresh, so fresh they will

0:40:46.440 --> 0:40:50.439
<v Speaker 1>completely penetrate up to three human bodies before shattering. That's

0:40:50.480 --> 0:41:04.960
<v Speaker 1>the add ads. All right, we're we've were, we are,

0:41:05.000 --> 0:41:08.960
<v Speaker 1>we are, we are we are. You try that again, buddy, No, No,

0:41:09.400 --> 0:41:12.840
<v Speaker 1>we just are. We just are are. We just are

0:41:13.360 --> 0:41:19.319
<v Speaker 1>We're being That's true. Yeah. So for Amos Clift, the

0:41:19.400 --> 0:41:22.080
<v Speaker 1>egg racket meant a chance at more money than he like,

0:41:22.440 --> 0:41:24.680
<v Speaker 1>than he would ever have a chance of making anywhere else.

0:41:24.680 --> 0:41:27.319
<v Speaker 1>As he wrote back home to his family, the egg

0:41:27.400 --> 0:41:29.600
<v Speaker 1>seasons the months of May and June, and the profits

0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:31.759
<v Speaker 1>of the company after all expenses are paid, is every

0:41:31.840 --> 0:41:34.440
<v Speaker 1>year from five to six thousand dollars quite an item.

0:41:34.440 --> 0:41:37.040
<v Speaker 1>And if this island is government property, I have a

0:41:37.160 --> 0:41:39.200
<v Speaker 1>right to these eggs, and I am bound to try

0:41:39.200 --> 0:41:41.960
<v Speaker 1>and get it. And of course he also added that

0:41:42.000 --> 0:41:43.920
<v Speaker 1>once he got rich off of the eggs, the government

0:41:43.920 --> 0:41:48.279
<v Speaker 1>could kiss his foot. Um. So interesting, guy, Amos, He's

0:41:48.320 --> 0:41:50.720
<v Speaker 1>decided this is how he's going to make his fortune,

0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:53.400
<v Speaker 1>and he's kind of revealing his moves though too a

0:41:53.440 --> 0:41:58.440
<v Speaker 1>little bit. Yeah. Yeah, this is the government's island, so

0:41:58.480 --> 0:42:00.200
<v Speaker 1>I have a right to the eggs, but also suck

0:42:00.239 --> 0:42:03.319
<v Speaker 1>the government once they get rich. Yeah, like, hey, man,

0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:05.440
<v Speaker 1>just leave the last part out, Dude, I think you

0:42:05.480 --> 0:42:08.560
<v Speaker 1>gotta play it. Yeah. Yeah, he wasn't. He wasn't a

0:42:08.600 --> 0:42:12.400
<v Speaker 1>smooth customer. So Amos organized the lighthouse keepers into a

0:42:12.440 --> 0:42:16.560
<v Speaker 1>brisk business that partly involved discouraging eggers from landing. Because

0:42:16.560 --> 0:42:18.600
<v Speaker 1>they're the lighthouse they can make it hard for boats

0:42:18.600 --> 0:42:22.240
<v Speaker 1>to land. Um. And yeah, they would also like basically

0:42:22.280 --> 0:42:25.120
<v Speaker 1>work with groups of eggers to stop other groups from

0:42:25.239 --> 0:42:27.600
<v Speaker 1>landing and get kickbacks from them. And of course they

0:42:27.600 --> 0:42:30.000
<v Speaker 1>also got involved in the business of gathering and smuggling

0:42:30.040 --> 0:42:32.839
<v Speaker 1>eggs back into the mainland. So he's gets a couple

0:42:32.880 --> 0:42:36.000
<v Speaker 1>of rackets set up. Uh what did micro cause him

0:42:36.120 --> 0:42:41.839
<v Speaker 1>of a city? Yeah? Yeah, it is a very San

0:42:41.880 --> 0:42:50.719
<v Speaker 1>Francisco story. Yeah, it's nice. Just immediately like we can

0:42:51.520 --> 0:42:53.800
<v Speaker 1>like this racket work for everybody. I think there's a

0:42:53.800 --> 0:42:55.480
<v Speaker 1>little bit of money around the edges of this. For me,

0:42:56.040 --> 0:42:58.000
<v Speaker 1>all I got any was over some people who aren't me.

0:42:58.360 --> 0:43:03.120
<v Speaker 1>Just every American story ever is just going like, oh

0:43:03.160 --> 0:43:06.359
<v Speaker 1>I got this, Yeah you can. There's a lot about

0:43:06.400 --> 0:43:10.200
<v Speaker 1>America in this tale. So right around the same time

0:43:10.239 --> 0:43:13.520
<v Speaker 1>as Amos is getting his his his egg scheme off

0:43:13.560 --> 0:43:17.160
<v Speaker 1>the ground, San Francisco's Daily Alta newspaper reported that the

0:43:17.200 --> 0:43:19.960
<v Speaker 1>egg company had begun to wage an open guerilla war

0:43:20.040 --> 0:43:23.440
<v Speaker 1>against the state, breaking up government roads as well as

0:43:23.480 --> 0:43:26.080
<v Speaker 1>drawing lines fencing off chunks of the island and putting

0:43:26.160 --> 0:43:29.040
<v Speaker 1>up warnings that light keepers and their families could only

0:43:29.120 --> 0:43:33.560
<v Speaker 1>cross on pain of death. So like destroying the roads

0:43:33.600 --> 0:43:36.040
<v Speaker 1>that were built to allow the lighthouse to function um

0:43:36.040 --> 0:43:38.480
<v Speaker 1>and to allow like like basically trying to cut off

0:43:38.520 --> 0:43:41.640
<v Speaker 1>their supply lines, fencing off the areas where the eggs are,

0:43:41.760 --> 0:43:45.960
<v Speaker 1>and threatening to murder government employees who cross onto egg territory.

0:43:46.400 --> 0:43:48.840
<v Speaker 1>In June of eighteen sixty is things escalated to a

0:43:48.880 --> 0:43:52.440
<v Speaker 1>point where lightkeepers felt unsafe to travel outside without rifles.

0:43:52.640 --> 0:43:55.520
<v Speaker 1>Clift wrote a letter to his family that we are

0:43:55.560 --> 0:43:57.600
<v Speaker 1>now in the midst of the egg season and the

0:43:57.640 --> 0:44:04.359
<v Speaker 1>egg Company and the Lightkeepers are at are now. Soon

0:44:04.440 --> 0:44:07.080
<v Speaker 1>after this point, the Eggers launched a full frontal assault

0:44:07.080 --> 0:44:09.280
<v Speaker 1>on the Lightkeepers, trying to force them off the island

0:44:09.280 --> 0:44:12.520
<v Speaker 1>at gunpoint. In July, one of the assistant lightkeepers was

0:44:12.600 --> 0:44:15.880
<v Speaker 1>ambushed and injured. Justice Clift was plotting his response to

0:44:15.920 --> 0:44:18.279
<v Speaker 1>these offenses. The US government realized what was going on,

0:44:18.400 --> 0:44:21.080
<v Speaker 1>and rather than getting broiled in an egg based insurgency,

0:44:21.360 --> 0:44:24.480
<v Speaker 1>they fired Clift for the undue assumption to monopolize the

0:44:24.560 --> 0:44:29.560
<v Speaker 1>valuable privilege of collecting eggs. I hate to side with

0:44:29.600 --> 0:44:31.879
<v Speaker 1>the government that they got a goddamn point on this one.

0:44:32.040 --> 0:44:34.000
<v Speaker 1>This kind of seemed like he was a problem. Do

0:44:34.080 --> 0:44:36.880
<v Speaker 1>you take any of his relatives, like he had some

0:44:36.960 --> 0:44:40.359
<v Speaker 1>smartass cousins or stuff. They're like, dude, you've got to

0:44:40.400 --> 0:44:45.080
<v Speaker 1>read Amos his egg letters. They are awesome. I think

0:44:45.120 --> 0:44:46.840
<v Speaker 1>he might be. I think he might be in some

0:44:46.920 --> 0:44:50.759
<v Speaker 1>real trouble. He's talking about gunfights. It's but he's talking

0:44:50.760 --> 0:44:53.840
<v Speaker 1>about eggs. It's the funniest ship you have ever heard,

0:44:55.719 --> 0:45:00.080
<v Speaker 1>uh people. Yeah. So, at the same time that the

0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:03.120
<v Speaker 1>egg company men were sparring with the lighthouse Keepers, another

0:45:03.280 --> 0:45:06.080
<v Speaker 1>rifle egg poaching company was forming with the goal of

0:45:06.120 --> 0:45:09.279
<v Speaker 1>conquering the Farrelland Islands for themselves and taking them from

0:45:09.320 --> 0:45:12.319
<v Speaker 1>the Egg Company. While the Egg Company was American run,

0:45:12.360 --> 0:45:15.239
<v Speaker 1>this new company was made up entirely of Italian immigrants.

0:45:15.560 --> 0:45:18.080
<v Speaker 1>Both claimed to have legal possession of the island, and

0:45:18.120 --> 0:45:20.839
<v Speaker 1>it seems unlikely that either did. From a local news

0:45:20.960 --> 0:45:23.719
<v Speaker 1>article at the time quote the chief of police and

0:45:23.760 --> 0:45:26.040
<v Speaker 1>a posse visit the scene. For a long time two

0:45:26.120 --> 0:45:27.640
<v Speaker 1>years or more, the right to gather the eggs on

0:45:27.680 --> 0:45:30.600
<v Speaker 1>the Farrelands Islands has been in dispute between rival companies,

0:45:30.719 --> 0:45:33.120
<v Speaker 1>and rumblings of approaching troubles between them have been heard

0:45:33.120 --> 0:45:35.480
<v Speaker 1>for a year. One of these companies has composed mainly

0:45:35.520 --> 0:45:37.319
<v Speaker 1>of Americans, and it is known that the far as

0:45:37.360 --> 0:45:39.600
<v Speaker 1>the Farrelands Egg Company. The other is made up of

0:45:39.600 --> 0:45:42.920
<v Speaker 1>Italian fishermen. The American company claimed to have had original

0:45:42.960 --> 0:45:45.080
<v Speaker 1>possession of the island and issued script in the usual

0:45:45.160 --> 0:45:48.319
<v Speaker 1>manner of corporations. The Italian company were subsequent claimants, and

0:45:48.320 --> 0:45:50.680
<v Speaker 1>in a suit between them and Judge Hager's Court lately

0:45:50.840 --> 0:45:53.640
<v Speaker 1>a writ of ejectment was sued against the Italians, who,

0:45:53.880 --> 0:45:57.040
<v Speaker 1>being in part possession, refused to obey the summons yesterday,

0:45:57.120 --> 0:46:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Chief Barks sent out officers Ellison Clark to arrest certain

0:46:00.000 --> 0:46:02.600
<v Speaker 1>of the Italians, and when they found two parties armed

0:46:02.600 --> 0:46:04.640
<v Speaker 1>to the teeth, in possession of different parts of the

0:46:04.640 --> 0:46:08.240
<v Speaker 1>island and breathing defiance against each other, the officers attempted

0:46:08.280 --> 0:46:10.480
<v Speaker 1>to serve their writ but were opposed, and though the

0:46:10.480 --> 0:46:13.120
<v Speaker 1>partisans of the egg companies sided with the officers, they

0:46:13.120 --> 0:46:15.239
<v Speaker 1>were unable to effect the arrest of more than three

0:46:15.239 --> 0:46:17.279
<v Speaker 1>of the other party, the rest vowing that they were

0:46:17.280 --> 0:46:20.240
<v Speaker 1>ready for a fight and would rather be shot down

0:46:20.280 --> 0:46:29.160
<v Speaker 1>than arrested. So yeah, yeah, I just I don't over eggs.

0:46:29.640 --> 0:46:34.560
<v Speaker 1>Starting a farm a little outside of town would have

0:46:34.600 --> 0:46:37.759
<v Speaker 1>been way easier than this. Yeah, it does seem like that.

0:46:38.160 --> 0:46:40.359
<v Speaker 1>Seems like that would have been eggs over easy, and

0:46:40.360 --> 0:46:44.200
<v Speaker 1>they chose eggs over hard. I can't even look at

0:46:44.200 --> 0:46:46.680
<v Speaker 1>you right now. I know, I know. I wanted to

0:46:46.719 --> 0:46:50.520
<v Speaker 1>throw the microphone, but it's mine. Yeah, well that's why

0:46:50.520 --> 0:46:55.000
<v Speaker 1>I missed the studio. We'd be throwing a lot. Yeah,

0:46:55.200 --> 0:46:57.640
<v Speaker 1>some for somebody said they are upset that we're not

0:46:57.760 --> 0:47:02.399
<v Speaker 1>throwing bagels anymore, and it's because we're own houses. That's

0:47:02.480 --> 0:47:07.880
<v Speaker 1>my property. No, I yeah, when I throw eggs in

0:47:07.960 --> 0:47:10.439
<v Speaker 1>the in the office, it's Daniel who has to clean

0:47:10.480 --> 0:47:12.439
<v Speaker 1>them up. And when I throw eggs in my own home,

0:47:13.000 --> 0:47:16.000
<v Speaker 1>it's well, not me still, but someone else who has

0:47:16.040 --> 0:47:19.879
<v Speaker 1>to clean them up. Yeah. Wow, you're gonna make your

0:47:19.920 --> 0:47:26.520
<v Speaker 1>cat clean that up. Yeah, she loves eggs. Probably over

0:47:26.560 --> 0:47:28.560
<v Speaker 1>the next couple of years, that's one story. There were

0:47:28.600 --> 0:47:31.279
<v Speaker 1>multiple gunfights like that, and like they would send in

0:47:31.560 --> 0:47:34.040
<v Speaker 1>like police and soldiers to the island and there would

0:47:34.040 --> 0:47:36.680
<v Speaker 1>be like partisan sniping between the sides, and it just

0:47:36.800 --> 0:47:40.040
<v Speaker 1>kept happening between these Americans what are essentially American and

0:47:40.080 --> 0:47:45.359
<v Speaker 1>Italian gangs who are are smuggling eggs. Um. Yeah, it's

0:47:45.400 --> 0:47:50.839
<v Speaker 1>like the meth trade, but sillier. As the Smithsonian Institute notes,

0:47:52.120 --> 0:47:54.640
<v Speaker 1>it does not get you high. I mean, if you

0:47:54.680 --> 0:47:57.359
<v Speaker 1>eat only protein, you can get a little bit fucked up,

0:47:57.400 --> 0:48:00.680
<v Speaker 1>but not in a pleasant way. No, were like a

0:48:00.760 --> 0:48:05.840
<v Speaker 1>sick tier stomach way, feel good. Yeah. The egging season

0:48:05.880 --> 0:48:08.600
<v Speaker 1>became increasingly violent. In the words of one commentator, the

0:48:08.640 --> 0:48:11.600
<v Speaker 1>eight weeks between May and July evolved into an annual

0:48:11.760 --> 0:48:15.120
<v Speaker 1>naval engagement known as the Egg War. Brawls broke out

0:48:15.160 --> 0:48:18.080
<v Speaker 1>constantly between rival gangs, ranging in brutality, from threats and

0:48:18.080 --> 0:48:22.160
<v Speaker 1>shell throwings to stabbings and shootouts. The fighting was not

0:48:22.239 --> 0:48:25.440
<v Speaker 1>confined to the islands. Boats transporting eggs were hijacked regularly.

0:48:25.480 --> 0:48:27.960
<v Speaker 1>According to the San Francisco Examiner, there were many a

0:48:28.000 --> 0:48:31.040
<v Speaker 1>bitter and fatal encounter between larger parties of rival claimants

0:48:31.040 --> 0:48:34.880
<v Speaker 1>in boats mounting small cannons. Back in San Francisco, the

0:48:34.920 --> 0:48:37.520
<v Speaker 1>courts were barraged by a dizzy variety of egg related

0:48:37.560 --> 0:48:41.560
<v Speaker 1>cases that included charges of petite larceny, trespassing, property damage,

0:48:41.600 --> 0:48:47.040
<v Speaker 1>resisting an officer, and manslaughter. So cannons have entered into it.

0:48:47.239 --> 0:48:51.520
<v Speaker 1>Just well, we got lawyers involved, we got the press involved.

0:48:51.600 --> 0:48:55.520
<v Speaker 1>Now that. Now we've got arms dealers involved, gun runners

0:48:55.600 --> 0:48:59.600
<v Speaker 1>running guns to the eggmen. So they got they got raffles,

0:49:00.360 --> 0:49:03.759
<v Speaker 1>need a cannon. Oh yeah, those rifles aren't gonna work

0:49:03.760 --> 0:49:07.520
<v Speaker 1>if they brought cops into the matter. Just a cannon

0:49:07.719 --> 0:49:13.920
<v Speaker 1>is what you guys need. And I got a cannon, okay.

0:49:15.320 --> 0:49:18.520
<v Speaker 1>So it all came to a head. Finally, in the

0:49:18.560 --> 0:49:21.720
<v Speaker 1>spring of eighteen sixty three, a man named David Batch

0:49:21.760 --> 0:49:25.240
<v Speaker 1>Elder managed to gather together an army of Italian fishermen.

0:49:25.560 --> 0:49:28.320
<v Speaker 1>They made several attempts at an aquatic landing on the island,

0:49:28.440 --> 0:49:31.880
<v Speaker 1>each time the United States Revenue Cutter Service the Coastguard,

0:49:31.880 --> 0:49:34.680
<v Speaker 1>before the Coastguard caught them and took their guns. But

0:49:34.760 --> 0:49:37.920
<v Speaker 1>eventually batch Elder and his comrade succeeded in sneaking around

0:49:37.960 --> 0:49:40.880
<v Speaker 1>the cutter Service and landing on the island. On the

0:49:40.920 --> 0:49:44.280
<v Speaker 1>evening of June three, eighteen sixty three, the fishermen sailed

0:49:44.280 --> 0:49:46.080
<v Speaker 1>out to the Fara Loans again and were met by

0:49:46.080 --> 0:49:49.400
<v Speaker 1>a group of armed Egg Company men. Isaac Harrington, the

0:49:49.440 --> 0:49:52.120
<v Speaker 1>company's foreman, warned the men who were trying to land

0:49:52.160 --> 0:49:54.920
<v Speaker 1>that they would do so at their peril. In return,

0:49:55.040 --> 0:49:57.839
<v Speaker 1>batch Elder shouted that they would come in spite of

0:49:57.920 --> 0:50:02.080
<v Speaker 1>hell um. And then things got a little bit less dramatic,

0:50:02.120 --> 0:50:04.120
<v Speaker 1>and the Italians got drunk on their boats all night

0:50:04.200 --> 0:50:06.480
<v Speaker 1>and spent the evening making fun of the people on

0:50:06.520 --> 0:50:10.160
<v Speaker 1>the shore. But then at dawn, but hungover Italian soldiers

0:50:10.160 --> 0:50:16.279
<v Speaker 1>attempted another landing. So these these hungover Italians try to

0:50:16.360 --> 0:50:18.719
<v Speaker 1>land again after making fun of the Egg Company all night,

0:50:18.760 --> 0:50:21.080
<v Speaker 1>and the employees of the Egg Company opened fire for

0:50:21.120 --> 0:50:23.680
<v Speaker 1>the next twenty minutes. There's just like a massive gun

0:50:23.719 --> 0:50:26.879
<v Speaker 1>battle which includes cannons on both sides. By the time

0:50:26.920 --> 0:50:29.759
<v Speaker 1>the Italians retreat, one egg company man is dead and

0:50:29.880 --> 0:50:32.359
<v Speaker 1>five boatmen are wounded, one of whom was shot through

0:50:32.400 --> 0:50:36.040
<v Speaker 1>the throat and died a little bit later. So pretty

0:50:36.080 --> 0:50:40.239
<v Speaker 1>sizeable gunfight there. Now. This finally forced the government to

0:50:40.280 --> 0:50:43.920
<v Speaker 1>take action, not by banning egging, but by officially banning

0:50:43.960 --> 0:50:48.319
<v Speaker 1>everybody besides the Pacific Egg Company from egging. Unfortunately, for

0:50:48.360 --> 0:50:51.040
<v Speaker 1>a reason that cannot be explained, the company found fewer

0:50:51.080 --> 0:50:53.920
<v Speaker 1>and fewer eggs on the island every single year. There

0:50:53.920 --> 0:50:57.560
<v Speaker 1>were fewer birds too, and again no possible explanation as

0:50:57.600 --> 0:51:03.000
<v Speaker 1>to why this might have been happened. In true capitalistic fashion,

0:51:03.040 --> 0:51:05.360
<v Speaker 1>the egg company decided to make up for lost profits

0:51:05.360 --> 0:51:08.040
<v Speaker 1>by butchering hundreds and hundreds of seals and lions in

0:51:08.120 --> 0:51:10.200
<v Speaker 1>order to turn them into oil, because again, there's not

0:51:10.239 --> 0:51:14.200
<v Speaker 1>as many eggs anymore. Now this process the clubs. We

0:51:14.320 --> 0:51:19.360
<v Speaker 1>got clubs, we were using them to hit birds, but

0:51:19.440 --> 0:51:21.680
<v Speaker 1>now the birds are gone. At the birds they don't

0:51:21.680 --> 0:51:28.320
<v Speaker 1>want to come around anymore. Yes, uh, capitalism, I felt

0:51:28.320 --> 0:51:32.120
<v Speaker 1>that in my chest. So they start butchering sea lions

0:51:32.160 --> 0:51:34.880
<v Speaker 1>and seals, and the process of turning them into oil

0:51:35.000 --> 0:51:37.879
<v Speaker 1>is like it's a nightmare. You basically like cut off

0:51:37.920 --> 0:51:39.920
<v Speaker 1>their fat and put them in these huge pots. So

0:51:39.960 --> 0:51:43.000
<v Speaker 1>you've got these giant pots of like boiling animal fat.

0:51:43.440 --> 0:51:45.640
<v Speaker 1>And since there's no money in cleaning up the rest,

0:51:45.680 --> 0:51:48.279
<v Speaker 1>they would just leave the putrefying carcasses of the sea

0:51:48.360 --> 0:51:51.120
<v Speaker 1>lions and the seals to rot next to these giant,

0:51:51.239 --> 0:51:56.400
<v Speaker 1>like bubbling cauldrons of fucking poison fat. The once pristine

0:51:56.440 --> 0:51:58.960
<v Speaker 1>wilderness of the Fara Loans were was filled with a

0:51:59.000 --> 0:52:01.680
<v Speaker 1>permanent haze of at smog and the stink of rotting

0:52:01.680 --> 0:52:05.640
<v Speaker 1>flesh permeated everything. So they just turning the more door

0:52:06.080 --> 0:52:12.040
<v Speaker 1>like they we've won the egg war. Let's ruin the islands. God, yeah,

0:52:12.080 --> 0:52:16.799
<v Speaker 1>it's good stuff. It is. It is, like, hey, that's

0:52:16.920 --> 0:52:20.400
<v Speaker 1>I think that's humanity right there. Yeah. Yeah. There's a

0:52:20.440 --> 0:52:23.080
<v Speaker 1>lot to say about climate change in this, including the

0:52:23.080 --> 0:52:26.759
<v Speaker 1>fact that after the company wins and begin committing genocide

0:52:26.760 --> 0:52:30.720
<v Speaker 1>against a second species the they also start to attack

0:52:30.760 --> 0:52:34.280
<v Speaker 1>the lighthouse operators again. Um. For one thing, the company

0:52:34.320 --> 0:52:36.719
<v Speaker 1>wanted to restrict the lighthouse operators and their families from

0:52:36.719 --> 0:52:39.080
<v Speaker 1>taking eggs for their personal use, even though the ships

0:52:39.120 --> 0:52:41.600
<v Speaker 1>that brought them food would often be late by weeks

0:52:41.680 --> 0:52:44.200
<v Speaker 1>due to bad weather, and sometimes they needed to hunt

0:52:44.239 --> 0:52:47.399
<v Speaker 1>the local birds in order to survive. They also tried

0:52:47.400 --> 0:52:50.040
<v Speaker 1>to force the lighthouse to destroy its fog horn, which

0:52:50.040 --> 0:52:53.440
<v Speaker 1>existed purely to save the lives of boats filled with people.

0:52:53.680 --> 0:52:55.680
<v Speaker 1>But the fog horns scared the birds, so they were like,

0:52:55.719 --> 0:53:00.279
<v Speaker 1>you gotta shut that thing off. Just in eighteen eighty

0:53:00.360 --> 0:53:03.920
<v Speaker 1>one company men assaulted another lighthouse keeper for harvesting eggs,

0:53:04.000 --> 0:53:06.759
<v Speaker 1>and in May of that year, the fucking army had

0:53:06.800 --> 0:53:09.960
<v Speaker 1>to forcibly evict the egg company from the far Lands islands.

0:53:10.120 --> 0:53:13.920
<v Speaker 1>So I just can you imagine being the governor and

0:53:14.000 --> 0:53:17.680
<v Speaker 1>you just keep getting this this one island. You're like, God, damn,

0:53:17.719 --> 0:53:20.600
<v Speaker 1>these egg guys have to send the army out over eggs.

0:53:21.040 --> 0:53:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Army is this? Uh? And that happens, by the way,

0:53:25.960 --> 0:53:29.080
<v Speaker 1>that big gun battle between those two sides occurs like

0:53:29.239 --> 0:53:35.480
<v Speaker 1>the same time that Gettysburg is happening. It's just easily

0:53:35.600 --> 0:53:38.239
<v Speaker 1>a much more important battle. I think we can all agree. Well,

0:53:38.400 --> 0:53:40.520
<v Speaker 1>that just sounds like, oh, you guys are doing fighting.

0:53:40.800 --> 0:53:44.920
<v Speaker 1>We'll do fighting. You Gettysburg cowards out would really go

0:53:45.120 --> 0:53:49.759
<v Speaker 1>We'll do well, you know, you guys fighting over freedom.

0:53:49.880 --> 0:53:55.680
<v Speaker 1>We got eggs doing eggs. This is a West coast.

0:53:55.880 --> 0:53:58.360
<v Speaker 1>That is a West coast versus East coast. They like

0:53:58.480 --> 0:54:01.759
<v Speaker 1>they're fighting. It's like racism and slavery back there. You're like,

0:54:01.760 --> 0:54:06.800
<v Speaker 1>where are you guys? Eggs Yep, a slightly higher profit margin.

0:54:10.719 --> 0:54:14.720
<v Speaker 1>So the egg war finally ends after like literally thirty

0:54:14.800 --> 0:54:18.239
<v Speaker 1>years of escalating violence. Um and in part because they

0:54:18.280 --> 0:54:24.040
<v Speaker 1>finally established chicken farms in Pedaluma and suddenly eggs every

0:54:24.520 --> 0:54:32.239
<v Speaker 1>every direction around San Francisco is farms, but they weren't yet.

0:54:33.760 --> 0:54:38.120
<v Speaker 1>It's I like, dude, that just immediately we started a brothel.

0:54:38.200 --> 0:54:40.799
<v Speaker 1>He's like, man, I'm not going back to that island

0:54:40.200 --> 0:54:45.600
<v Speaker 1>that I Am done with eggs all gonna be I mean,

0:54:45.680 --> 0:54:50.120
<v Speaker 1>eggs will still be involved, but in a lesser direct way. Yes, yes, yes,

0:54:52.000 --> 0:54:56.480
<v Speaker 1>so uh yeah. Mirror eggs became much less common over

0:54:56.520 --> 0:55:00.280
<v Speaker 1>the years because after four decades of taking all of

0:55:00.160 --> 0:55:02.520
<v Speaker 1>of not just smashing of like not just taking eggs,

0:55:02.680 --> 0:55:04.600
<v Speaker 1>but smashing all of the eggs on the island so

0:55:04.640 --> 0:55:06.239
<v Speaker 1>that they would lay more eggs and than taking all

0:55:06.239 --> 0:55:09.279
<v Speaker 1>of those the bird. The mirror population on the Phara

0:55:09.400 --> 0:55:12.520
<v Speaker 1>Loans dropped from an estimated four hundred thousand to sixty

0:55:12.600 --> 0:55:17.680
<v Speaker 1>thousand um because you know, yeah, it was a good

0:55:17.680 --> 0:55:20.400
<v Speaker 1>old fashioned genocide. So you could say there's a degree

0:55:20.440 --> 0:55:25.160
<v Speaker 1>to which the industry kind of destroyed itself because it

0:55:25.200 --> 0:55:29.400
<v Speaker 1>was greedy, uh, and made the environment that sustained it

0:55:29.880 --> 0:55:35.239
<v Speaker 1>no longer possible. Oh yeah, I guess there's no. No,

0:55:35.320 --> 0:55:37.120
<v Speaker 1>it's a thing that has never happened again and never

0:55:37.120 --> 0:55:39.880
<v Speaker 1>will happen again. Probably not happening right now. There's no

0:55:40.000 --> 0:55:42.799
<v Speaker 1>signs of that happening now. No, why would we? Why

0:55:42.840 --> 0:55:47.720
<v Speaker 1>would we? Why would we do the same thing repeatedly, uh,

0:55:47.920 --> 0:55:52.600
<v Speaker 1>thousands of times until we all die? That doesn't sound

0:55:52.680 --> 0:55:56.280
<v Speaker 1>like us. What if we just made seeds that only

0:55:56.280 --> 0:56:04.759
<v Speaker 1>worked once? Well, Billy, that's the war that was kind

0:56:04.800 --> 0:56:07.680
<v Speaker 1>of Yeah, it was. It was a hoot of one.

0:56:07.840 --> 0:56:09.480
<v Speaker 1>And I think it's like one of those where it's

0:56:09.480 --> 0:56:11.239
<v Speaker 1>like I don't think there's a bad guy and I

0:56:11.239 --> 0:56:12.920
<v Speaker 1>mean there's a good guy or a bad guy on

0:56:12.920 --> 0:56:14.440
<v Speaker 1>that one. Yeah, I think the good guy is the

0:56:14.440 --> 0:56:19.480
<v Speaker 1>guy who made that brothel on one. Yes, he was,

0:56:20.200 --> 0:56:21.960
<v Speaker 1>and he told some people about the reck. How did

0:56:21.960 --> 0:56:23.919
<v Speaker 1>you get this brothel? He's like, Oh, there's an egg

0:56:24.000 --> 0:56:25.960
<v Speaker 1>island out there. I wouldn't go out there though, when

0:56:25.960 --> 0:56:28.680
<v Speaker 1>people are like good, He's like, I told you guys

0:56:28.760 --> 0:56:33.239
<v Speaker 1>not to go out there. Yeah. Um, it's a it's

0:56:33.280 --> 0:56:35.880
<v Speaker 1>a it's a hoot of a tale. Um. I should

0:56:35.920 --> 0:56:38.400
<v Speaker 1>note here that I found out after I had finished

0:56:38.640 --> 0:56:41.279
<v Speaker 1>researching and started writing that this is another episode that

0:56:41.320 --> 0:56:44.320
<v Speaker 1>I think the Dollar beat me too, So like, to

0:56:44.400 --> 0:56:47.560
<v Speaker 1>hell with you, Dave, I'm gonna I'll get my revenge.

0:56:47.960 --> 0:56:50.000
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't gonna not do it because it was election

0:56:50.040 --> 0:56:51.560
<v Speaker 1>week when I wrote this, and I don't have that

0:56:51.640 --> 0:56:58.000
<v Speaker 1>much time to research stuff. But yeah, it's okay, Yeah,

0:56:58.200 --> 0:57:05.120
<v Speaker 1>it just happens. It's the Internet anyway, and they're both talented,

0:57:05.440 --> 0:57:11.040
<v Speaker 1>so we did. Yeah. Um, so you know, listen to

0:57:11.320 --> 0:57:14.200
<v Speaker 1>listen to both listen to both episodes, and then send

0:57:14.280 --> 0:57:19.480
<v Speaker 1>Dave and I both extensive essays taking apart who did

0:57:19.520 --> 0:57:23.400
<v Speaker 1>better at which portions? Um, because we I guarantee you

0:57:23.440 --> 0:57:27.160
<v Speaker 1>will both read them and take them to heart. We'll

0:57:27.280 --> 0:57:29.800
<v Speaker 1>just be like the press. We'll just sit over here

0:57:30.360 --> 0:57:32.120
<v Speaker 1>and we'll be like, you guys should fight with guns.

0:57:32.200 --> 0:57:34.440
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna be over here. That's what will let you

0:57:34.440 --> 0:57:37.280
<v Speaker 1>guys fight. Yeah, I think I think Dave and I

0:57:37.320 --> 0:57:40.640
<v Speaker 1>are going to do a joust over. I guess who

0:57:40.680 --> 0:57:43.080
<v Speaker 1>has the right to talk about Henry Kissinger. I don't know.

0:57:43.960 --> 0:57:47.360
<v Speaker 1>Exhausting project that should be I think that's its forces

0:57:47.400 --> 0:57:51.280
<v Speaker 1>should be joined. Yeah, I've talked to actually we've yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:57:51.280 --> 0:57:53.280
<v Speaker 1>we've talked a little bit about that idea. It's just

0:57:53.320 --> 0:57:55.760
<v Speaker 1>a matter of people's schedules. And also, like, do you

0:57:55.800 --> 0:57:57.320
<v Speaker 1>have any idea how hard it is to write an

0:57:57.360 --> 0:58:01.280
<v Speaker 1>actual episode about Henry Kissinger? And it's it's when you

0:58:01.320 --> 0:58:03.160
<v Speaker 1>said it too, was like I got excited, and then

0:58:03.200 --> 0:58:05.160
<v Speaker 1>you get a little scared too, because you're like, he's

0:58:05.160 --> 0:58:09.080
<v Speaker 1>still alive. I don't know. I've read to two books already,

0:58:09.080 --> 0:58:10.800
<v Speaker 1>and I think I'm gonna need to read two more

0:58:10.880 --> 0:58:14.080
<v Speaker 1>to be able to like realistically write a nice, succinct,

0:58:14.120 --> 0:58:17.680
<v Speaker 1>four part episode about the man. He's still doing stuff.

0:58:18.000 --> 0:58:23.800
<v Speaker 1>He's never going to stop. He's always he should be dead, Yes,

0:58:23.920 --> 0:58:26.960
<v Speaker 1>he should. If you take nothing else out of this

0:58:27.000 --> 0:58:30.439
<v Speaker 1>episode about eggs, it's that Henry Kissinger ought to be dead.

0:58:31.080 --> 0:58:33.960
<v Speaker 1>He may be eating those island eggs. That's a secret.

0:58:34.400 --> 0:58:41.439
<v Speaker 1>I think he eats islands and hope, Well, Billy, I'm

0:58:41.480 --> 0:58:48.400
<v Speaker 1>a fan of him. If he's listening, I'm yeah, same here, Bill,

0:58:48.480 --> 0:58:52.080
<v Speaker 1>you got anything you want a pluggety pluggety plug. I

0:58:52.120 --> 0:58:55.720
<v Speaker 1>wasn't bored too. That was really fun. Um see if

0:58:55.760 --> 0:58:58.800
<v Speaker 1>you can find me, uh and oh, I have a

0:58:58.960 --> 0:59:03.280
<v Speaker 1>cannabis podcast. We interview the growers and the movers and

0:59:03.280 --> 0:59:06.920
<v Speaker 1>shakers in that make up communities. Were season two. We're

0:59:06.960 --> 0:59:10.840
<v Speaker 1>in Humboldt County right now, and they have opened our doors,

0:59:11.280 --> 0:59:14.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean their arms in their doors to us in

0:59:14.240 --> 0:59:16.840
<v Speaker 1>a way that we didn't foresee. So this season keeps

0:59:16.880 --> 0:59:20.640
<v Speaker 1>getting longer. It's really cool. Now, Billy, one last question

0:59:20.680 --> 0:59:23.600
<v Speaker 1>before we go out. If you were a strain of

0:59:23.680 --> 0:59:27.840
<v Speaker 1>cannabis number one sativa or indica and number or hybrid

0:59:27.880 --> 0:59:30.160
<v Speaker 1>I guess, and number two, what's going to be the

0:59:30.240 --> 0:59:32.760
<v Speaker 1>ratio of th HC to cb D and the Billy

0:59:32.800 --> 0:59:37.480
<v Speaker 1>Wayne Davis. Well, here's the thing, oh h they're having

0:59:38.000 --> 0:59:42.040
<v Speaker 1>because of you know, legality, it's tough to get a strain.

0:59:42.560 --> 0:59:48.960
<v Speaker 1>There's some strains that have the higher C B d UM.

0:59:49.000 --> 0:59:51.439
<v Speaker 1>It's just hard to find because what happens. And this

0:59:51.520 --> 0:59:54.280
<v Speaker 1>is just from knowing, this is from doing this podcast,

0:59:54.320 --> 0:59:57.520
<v Speaker 1>and I know just a smidge of the knowledge. But

0:59:57.680 --> 1:00:03.160
<v Speaker 1>because of capitalism, Uh, they bread a bunch of ships

1:00:03.200 --> 1:00:06.040
<v Speaker 1>and ruined some of the strains, but jacking up the

1:00:06.080 --> 1:00:09.360
<v Speaker 1>THHC because you don't because you've got so many different

1:00:09.440 --> 1:00:14.480
<v Speaker 1>cannabinoid receptors that they're just now learning about. So my

1:00:14.680 --> 1:00:17.040
<v Speaker 1>strain that I always go to is like I like

1:00:17.080 --> 1:00:20.120
<v Speaker 1>a sativa. That's like it's it's one of the purest

1:00:20.120 --> 1:00:22.520
<v Speaker 1>one is jack her air. Now most things are a

1:00:22.600 --> 1:00:28.000
<v Speaker 1>hybrid now um because they've cross bread so much stuff

1:00:28.080 --> 1:00:31.000
<v Speaker 1>that it's hard to find just a pure sativa or

1:00:31.000 --> 1:00:35.080
<v Speaker 1>a pure endica. And again it's capitalism. And then you know,

1:00:37.200 --> 1:00:41.040
<v Speaker 1>and some of the old land races are harder to

1:00:41.080 --> 1:00:46.680
<v Speaker 1>grow because of capitalism. There's just no money in it. Well, Billy,

1:00:47.200 --> 1:00:49.200
<v Speaker 1>I guess that's the same. I mean no, it was

1:00:49.280 --> 1:00:51.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of the same story that I just told you,

1:00:51.400 --> 1:00:55.600
<v Speaker 1>but with marijuana and instead of eggs and more gunfights,

1:00:55.600 --> 1:01:01.080
<v Speaker 1>but they're less publicized. Are talking? Well, we didn't answer

1:01:01.080 --> 1:01:02.919
<v Speaker 1>this question. What if you were a type of egg?

1:01:02.960 --> 1:01:04.439
<v Speaker 1>What type of egg would you be? Like? How would

1:01:04.480 --> 1:01:07.360
<v Speaker 1>you would you be? Oh? Fucking ostrich? Hell? Yeah, go bigger,

1:01:07.400 --> 1:01:14.200
<v Speaker 1>go home, Billy. I like duck eggs. Yeah, And also

1:01:14.280 --> 1:01:16.960
<v Speaker 1>I just had some dullard duck eggs. Always ordered duck

1:01:17.000 --> 1:01:22.800
<v Speaker 1>if it's on the menu, and duck fat. Yeah. Recently,

1:01:22.840 --> 1:01:24.919
<v Speaker 1>we went out and went mushrooming and picked a bunch

1:01:24.920 --> 1:01:27.720
<v Speaker 1>of chantrells in the in the deep dark woods, and

1:01:27.760 --> 1:01:29.920
<v Speaker 1>then had a fucking My friends brought over a duck

1:01:29.960 --> 1:01:32.439
<v Speaker 1>they'd slaughtered, and we had and I kept the duck fat.

1:01:32.480 --> 1:01:34.680
<v Speaker 1>So I was just every day for like the next week,

1:01:34.720 --> 1:01:36.680
<v Speaker 1>I was just throwing duck fat, and every goddamn thing

1:01:36.760 --> 1:01:42.920
<v Speaker 1>I made sounds awesome. Duck ship, duck fats amazing. Well,

1:01:43.000 --> 1:01:47.160
<v Speaker 1>everybody eats some fucking duck fat. Destroy capitalism or at

1:01:47.240 --> 1:01:50.760
<v Speaker 1>least eggs. I don't know. The episodes over