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Speaker 1: Good shit. Damn it, I botched another introduction. I'm Robert Evans.

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Speaker 1: This is Behind the Bastards, the podcast that is never

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Speaker 1: introduced professionally, despite it being literally my my one job

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Speaker 1: to do um in order to distract that Sophie. Okay,

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Speaker 1: everyone already knows I sucked up. You don't have to.

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Speaker 1: You have to jump on, jump on the kick me

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Speaker 1: pile here to distract from my failures. Uh Dollie, Wayne Davis, Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: it's good to be back. I didn't think you've messed

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Speaker 1: it up. I thought the enthusiasm was there. That's all

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Speaker 1: it really counts. Thank you, Billy, thank you for thank

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Speaker 1: you for successfully helping to hype me back up. Now

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Speaker 1: my ego has exploded again. I'll lock it up. They're

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Speaker 1: real big, it's fun. I just want to I just

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Speaker 1: want to publicly say that Robert told me if if

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Speaker 1: he ever asks me for green juice, I'm supposed to

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Speaker 1: kill him. Yes, that was our rule because of a

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Speaker 1: celebrity that she'll not be named ego. Oh, you get

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Speaker 1: under the green juice level. I think that's asking you

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Speaker 1: can get your own green juice. I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: be drinking green juice. If I care about living that

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Speaker 1: long ever, then I've lived too long already. Yeah. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: you don't have kids. See, we have to think different.

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Speaker 1: You got it. You got mad at you. That's good, Billy.

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Speaker 1: It's been a little while. How have you been. I'm good. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We've all been fighting the powers their own ways. M M.

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Speaker 1: I saw some of your fighting the power. You can

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Speaker 1: talk about the movie you were in now, I assume

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Speaker 1: if it's a secret, it's a bad one. Still, I

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Speaker 1: think yeah, I think, yeah. It is fun when people

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Speaker 1: ask me like was that you and I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I do not know. Well, Billy, I wasn't bored at

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Speaker 1: too you guys were you were And it's a great movie.

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Speaker 1: You were great in it. Uh. And you got to

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Speaker 1: hang out with some of my favorite Chudu Pacific Northwest. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: some of the people with guns who like to stand

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Speaker 1: on street corners and yell at teenagers. That was lovely.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't like I've told my wife and

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Speaker 1: other people. It was like, they're like, were you scared?

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Speaker 1: I was like, it was people I grew up or with.

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Speaker 1: I know how to talk to them. Yeah, they're not

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Speaker 1: they're not super complicated, but you know it is complicated, Billy.

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Speaker 1: That was a great transition, Thank you. No, I was

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Speaker 1: gonna guess so much stuff in my brain just eggs, eggs.

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Speaker 1: You're complicated A lot going on with an egg oh man. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I forgot what podcast I was on and where we

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Speaker 1: were going, and I was like, oh, eggs, and then

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Speaker 1: I was like, no, this is not gonna go. And

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Speaker 1: I like eggs, and now I don't like them. You

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Speaker 1: like eggs, so you like eggs. You're on board? Is like,

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Speaker 1: eg eggs, that's correct. Yeah, they're far as a diet,

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Speaker 1: they're pretty great. How do you feel about war h

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Speaker 1: this point in history, I think it's a silly consent.

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Speaker 1: How do you feel about the city of San Francisco.

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Speaker 1: I'm okay, all these things together, I'm on board with Okay. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what we're talking about, the egg war that that

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Speaker 1: rocked San Francisco for like thirty years back in the

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Speaker 1: eight hundreds. Hail. Yeah, yeah, we're talking about silly war

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Speaker 1: that I would be involved in. It is some silly bullshit, Billy.

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Speaker 1: It is some very very funny, silly bullshit, and it

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Speaker 1: starts as most stories of silly bullshit do in the

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Speaker 1: city of San Francisco, or at least like the collection

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Speaker 1: of tents and whorehouses that became San Francisco eventually, But

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Speaker 1: it was really just a campsite with a lot of

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Speaker 1: prostitutes back there. Yeah. Yeah, it's always been pretty great.

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Speaker 1: It's always it's always been great. Yeah. And the poop

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Speaker 1: on the streets thing not new, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 1: The abundance I think is the new part. Yeah. Although

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Speaker 1: their ship on the street that is not new. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot of it, you guys. And they're like, that

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Speaker 1: is the problem. That is the problem. And I also

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Speaker 1: think the average fiber content per person shipping on the

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Speaker 1: street may have increased. That's the theory I have. I think, Well,

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Speaker 1: I think, if we're being honest, what happens is when

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Speaker 1: you're on heroin, you get constipated and then you release

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Speaker 1: all of it at once, is what we're dealing with. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: um so Billy. In eighteen forty eight, the city of

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Speaker 1: San Francisco's population was a mere eight hundred people, and again,

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Speaker 1: can keep like the five hundred Club, like the good

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Speaker 1: bars and ship Yes, that's yeah, all of North Beaches, yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: a couple of grocery stores. So yeah. On January, a

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Speaker 1: carpenter building a mill near Coloma, California, found flakes of

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Speaker 1: very short order, tens of thousands of Americans flitted into

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Speaker 1: California's first gold rush. And California has kind of always

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Speaker 1: why there's forty million people here, because people are dumb

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Speaker 1: and they like they like easy money. Um. Also, the

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Speaker 1: weather Vegas an't getting smaller, No, no, it's not, thank God.

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Speaker 1: Actually the selection, Thank god for last f one time.

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Speaker 1: I will say that that is that that you're looking

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Speaker 1: at the mat. Huh, I'll be damned. Well they did

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Speaker 1: it all right. I guess we'll keep gambling illegal everywhere else.

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Speaker 1: You guys earned another four years. Well my thought was

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Speaker 1: like with that was like real quick or oh he's

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Speaker 1: piste off everyone. Yeah, he's he's got Vegas angry. Yes,

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Speaker 1: is funny that he picked a fight with Philadelphia too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's just you. Yeah, you can't. They'll they'll come to

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Speaker 1: This is like before sewers. Yeah, like you see right

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Speaker 1: doesn't go well. It creates a series of problems, most

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Speaker 1: of which will actually sound eerily familiar to anyone who

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Speaker 1: again this is like written in fucking the eighteen fifties,

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Speaker 1: despite the amazingly high cost of living and the extraordinary

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Speaker 1: home with an incalculable amount of gold. Everything was conceived

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Speaker 1: cash available for any scheme that might be proposed, no

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Speaker 1: matter how impossible or bizarre it seemed. Oh, how the

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't write that exact same paragraph about San Francisco

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Speaker 1: hundred and sixty years later. It's just that that that

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Speaker 1: plenty of cash for any plan you could propose. Yeah. No,

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Speaker 1: give him healthcare. Brilliant, Yeah, brilliant. Why do you see

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Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do to Rhodes. That's we're laughing, But

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Speaker 1: that's a conversation. Yeah, that is a conversation. I'm excited

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Speaker 1: So most depictions of San Francisco in the eighteen fifties

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Speaker 1: that's not good for the prostitution. Well, it's good for

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Speaker 1: they're just like, wasn't fucking food And for an example

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Speaker 1: because it's funny. Yeah, because they're actually two different households exactly. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: eggs which we were about to get into, you would

423
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 1: have to break all of the eggs that were there

424
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 1: when you arrived, because it would force the mirrors to

425
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 1: lay new eggs. And then you would take those eggs

426
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 1: and bring them back home. And if you're thinking was

427
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 1: this bad for the mirror population, yes, yeah, no I

428
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 1: was as soon as you said commerce, these birds are fucked.

429
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 1: They don't do great. So bit by bit people started

430
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 1: to talk about how all the eggs on this island

431
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 1: might be able to satisfy the Bay area's deep hunger

432
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 1: for pastries. The first man to try and make a

433
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 1: fortune off of Farrell and Eggs was an adventurer from

434
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 1: Maine named Doc Robinson. He'd heard whispers of mere eggs

435
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 1: in the saloons and gambling dens on the waterfronts. In

436
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 1: the spring of eighteen forty nine, Doc and his brother

437
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,120
Speaker 1: Oran chartered a boat and headed to the islands. They

438
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 1: found them absolutely covered in birds, hundreds of thousands of mirrors.

439
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 1: The men loaded their boats so full of eggs that

440
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 1: they could barely fit inside it. And I'm gonna quote

441
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,199
Speaker 1: now from the book The Devil's Teeth by Susan Casey.

442
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: Robinson and Dorman loaded their boat with eggs and headed

443
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 1: back to San Francisco, coming up against a nasty storm

444
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: and dumping half their cargo into the ocean just to

445
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 1: stay upright. Nonetheless, they sold the remaining eggs for a

446
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 1: dollar a dozen and pocketed three thousand dollars, serious money

447
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 1: in those days. Robinson opened his own burlesque call, another

448
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: big growth segment of the fledged in California economy, and

449
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 1: neither man ever went back to the fire loans, but

450
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 1: others did. Within a week of the successful egg sale,

451
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 1: Southeast Fareland was swarming with eggers. In keeping with the

452
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 1: land grabbing ethos, six men immediately staked their claim, declaring

453
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 1: that the islands belonged to them exclusively due to rights

454
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,919
Speaker 1: of possession, and incorporating as the Fireland Egg Company. Egging

455
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: the lucrative proved a tough way to make a living.

456
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 1: The season spanned eight flurried weeks between May and July,

457
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 1: during which time, it was man against mirror, and both

458
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 1: parties against the goals, climbing near vertical rises of crumbling

459
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 1: and it. The eggers carried clubs in their free hands

460
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: to fend off the attacking birds at the same time

461
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 1: stuffing the eggs and especially designed egg shirts. Giant gunny

462
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 1: sacks with multiple pockets scalp wounds were common. So I

463
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 1: just have no I mean, I've never wanted a fortune

464
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: that bad. I don't think. Yeah, and it's it's not

465
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 1: even a fortune because these guys. After the first guy,

466
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: he makes a fortune, right, he makes sense to me.

467
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 1: You go out, you have like one real shitty weekend,

468
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: and you come back alive, and you buy a burlesque

469
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: call and you sell sex for the rest of your life. Um, under,

470
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,959
Speaker 1: I understand that these guys are like day laborers. And

471
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: it's it's so bad because the goals eat the mirror eggs,

472
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 1: so like while you're climbing up the rock, they're like

473
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 1: die of bombing you and like biting into your skull

474
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: and clawing at you to get at eggs. Ah, it's

475
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 1: a bad gig. It just sounds like a metaphor for

476
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 1: modern day San Francis. Yeah, yeah, it's not any different today.

477
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 1: I would describe what they're doing is like driving for Uber, yes,

478
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: but more ethical. Yeah, though it's a it's a fair wage, Yeah, yeah, exactly.

479
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: I'm sure they were getting a better wage than Uber driving.

480
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 1: Oh man. Yeah. So. Harper's magazine sent a journalist down

481
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: to the fire Allons in the eighteen sixties to look

482
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 1: at the egging operation, and we have from that reporter

483
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 1: a first hand account of of what it was actually like.

484
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna just hand making vomit noises. From fifteen

485
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 1: to twenty men are employed during the egging season and

486
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: collecting and shipping the eggs. They live on the island

487
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: during that time and rude shanties near the usual landing place.

488
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 1: The work is not amusing, for the birds seek out

489
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: the least accessible places, and the men must follow, climbing,

490
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 1: often where a goat would be. All would almost hesitate,

491
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: But this is not the worst. The goal sits on

492
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: her nest and resists the robber who comes for her eggs,

493
00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 1: and he must take care not to get bitten. The

494
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 1: mere remains until her enemy is close upon her. Then

495
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 1: she rises with a scream, which often startles a thousand

496
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: or two of the birds who whirl up into the

497
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: air in a dense mask, scattering filth and guano all

498
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: over the aggres. So just ship clouds raining down on

499
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: you and into your open scalp wounds from the goals

500
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: that have dive fopped you as you're doing your job,

501
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: almost as high because you're you're you're really high up,

502
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 1: so don't you go. Yeah yeah, and if you fall,

503
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: you'll die horribly. Um and yeah, it was. The men

504
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: who did the job tended to be as shady as

505
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,679
Speaker 1: you would expect of people who are willing to do

506
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: that kind of work. The egg company hired mainly Greek

507
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: and Italian immigrants who were comfortable with danger and desperate

508
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: for money. And we all know what Italians are like,

509
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: right I don't. It's very anti Italian show billy. Yeah, No,

510
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: it's fine, it's fine. I know what they're like. Yeah.

511
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: So the rocks they scrambled up and down were slick

512
00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: with water, and bird ship men fell all the time,

513
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: often from great heights. When workers died, they were just

514
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: entered into the company log books as missing. For an

515
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: example of one death. Oh man, yeah, it's funny, and

516
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: I was okay, I'm making a bad joke with the

517
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: shadiness of the Italians. But one of the aspects of

518
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: this that's really interesting is that a lot of the

519
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: Italians involved in this were like leftist labor organizers and

520
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: this was just like the only work they could get

521
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: because it was a bad time to be a part

522
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: of organized labor, especially as things get into the eighteen sixties. Um.

523
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: So that's a dimension of all of this too, is

524
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: that there's like these these guys who are kind of

525
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: locked out of the main economy because of you know, uh,

526
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: companies not companies not wanting to hire people who want

527
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: to stand up for their rights as labors, so instead

528
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: they get dive bombed and covered and ship. Um it's yeah,

529
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: you don't want to know, you don't want to work

530
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: for the man, you can work for the birds. Well,

531
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: and then it's also probably one of those gigs you

532
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: don't know one tails you what it's really like, and

533
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: then you learn what it's like when you get out there. Yeah,

534
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: And the point I'm making by bringing this up is

535
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: that a lot of these guys, a lot of them

536
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: did have you know, some sort of criminal background. The others,

537
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 1: you know, being a labor organizer in this period means

538
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: you've been in a lot of street fights. And the

539
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: point I'm making is that these are really tough people

540
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: who are comfortable with violence, and that's going to matter

541
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: in a bit. Yeah. Yeah, But first I want to

542
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: talk about people dying on the job, because that's always fun.

543
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: It's can I just say, let's do the job pitch

544
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: where if if you're just like, okay, yeah, you gotta

545
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: ride a boat out there. Okay, that's fine. I don't

546
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: care about that, and then you like heights trick, I

547
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: don't care about that, like caney climb yeah, who you

548
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: just climb up there and get that egg, all right. Also,

549
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: the birds will they're gonna try to hurt you, all right,

550
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: and you're gonna get covered and ship there go your

551
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: open head wound. That's what I was gonna say. Yeah,

552
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: they're also you know how clean birds are. They're gonna

553
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: ship in your open wounds. And then that guy goes,

554
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: now I get how much an egg? Yeah, I like

555
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: like ten cents. You know you're getting paid. You're getting paid.

556
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: It's not bad. So for an example of one of

557
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: the kind of one of the ways people died horribly

558
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: doing the egg job. In eight fifty eight, the Daily Alta,

559
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: California reported that an egger quote missed his hold while

560
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: robbing a goal's nest over the edge of a precipice,

561
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: and falling was dashed to pieces on the rocks below.

562
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: That's how you wants Yeah, that's instant. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

563
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: I hope so, I hope it wasn't slowly dashed to pieces. Uh.

564
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: And you know nobody went for that body. They just said, oh,

565
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: I didn't show up to work today. Yeah, no way

566
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: to know. Send his wife and children a bill for

567
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: the passage over. So the eggers developed a distinctly bleak

568
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: view of their work, due in part to their forbidding

569
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: surroundings and in part due to the death rate. Stories

570
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: began to spread that if an egger spent too much

571
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: time on the islands, he would start to see his

572
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: name spelled out in the markings on the mirror shells.

573
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: But still, the money was good, and the Pacific Egg

574
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: Company was soon harvesting thousands of dollars and eggs every

575
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: single trip. It was not long before other entrepreneurial types

576
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: noticed this, as a journalist for Harper's wrote, of course

577
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: there was an egg war. The prize was too great

578
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: not to be struggled for. Well, yeah, you're gonna have

579
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: a war with the eggs. Yeah, it's good to know

580
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: that the that the press has always been stroking just say,

581
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: any type of war. Yeah, if you guys tried shooting

582
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: at each other yet, I'm gonna stand over here, maybe

583
00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: give it a shot. Uh okay from the Devil's Teeth quote.

584
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: There were NonStop dust ups as rifle gangs battled the

585
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: company for the right to harvest the eggs. On more

586
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: than one occasion, soldiers were summoned to calm things down.

587
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: The battles often lasting for weeks, involving threats, fist fights, barricades,

588
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: and small arms, and during those interlude San Franciscan's would

589
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: go eggless once again. Sometimes the ejected gangs would hide

590
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: in see caves instead of sailing back to San Francisco,

591
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: waiting for the authorities to leave so they could take

592
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: another run at the eggs. One tenacious group steered their

593
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: boat inside Great Mirror Cave and remained there for two days,

594
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: during which they were drizzled non stop with guano. The

595
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: ammonia build up inside the cave killed several men and

596
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: the danger. They were piste to death, and the dangers

597
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: didn't stop once the cargo was collected. Boats returned running

598
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: eggs to the mainland were hijacked with regularity, so we

599
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: got egg pirates in the mix. Well that's why, as

600
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: you're describing this, it just made me laugh because I'm like, man,

601
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: if you gamify, humans are down for whatever the fucking prizes. Yeah, yeah,

602
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: wait here, while my friends choked to death on bird piss,

603
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna make money, right, will beat those guys. Yeah,

604
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: just as long as I get more eggs than the

605
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: other assholes exactly. Now. What was already a very complicated

606
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: and violent situation was compounded by some decisions the government

607
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: made in eighteen fifty two. They decided to build a

608
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:25,760
Speaker 1: lighthouse on the Farrelland Islands. This was a sensible call geographically,

609
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: because ships kept running into the rocks in the dead

610
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: of night or during storms. It's a good place for

611
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: a lighthouse, um. But actually building a lighthouse on such

612
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 1: inhospitable terrain was easier said than done. Stone had to

613
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: be quarried on the island to create the lighthouse. Workmen

614
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,240
Speaker 1: had to haul bricks up the hillside on their backs,

615
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: it was just a miserable, miserable, miserable job. They completed

616
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: construction in eighteen fifty three, and just as they were

617
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: about to begin operation, they had to like the last

618
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: thing they had to do. After spending like more than

619
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: a year agonizingly quarrying rock to build a lighthouse, the

620
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: last thing they had to do was take a lens

621
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: up into the tower. And it's soon as they try

622
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: they realized that the lighthouse wasn't big enough for the

623
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: lens to fit. So they had to knock down the

624
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: lighthouse and rebuild it two years. Oh I think one

625
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: dude about how well it was like halfway up. It's

626
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: like how you get you know what? Never mind, never mind,

627
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: never mind, mind. I'm just not gonna say anything. I'm

628
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: gonna not be here. I'm gonna quit tomorrow. Uh So,

629
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 1: in eighteen fifty five they finally finished the damn thing.

630
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 1: Several lighthouse keepers and eventually their families moved on to

631
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 1: the island as its only permanent residence. Now this immediately

632
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: caused problems with what by then was just called the

633
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: Egg Company. See, the Egg Company claimed to have a

634
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: total monopoly on the island, a fact which was disputed

635
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: by the government and basically everyone else who wasn't the

636
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 1: Egg company names. No, that's on purpose, like when you

637
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: name your cat cat or tiger. Well no, I think

638
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: what they're doing is like, now there can only be

639
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: one and we are the egg the Egg Company. We

640
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 1: we will abide no competition. Facebook ship drop the Yeah,

641
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,959
Speaker 1: I mean Facebook was the Egg Company was the first

642
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 1: investor in Facebook. I think it should just be company.

643
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 1: Drop the V. I think the the I think the

644
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: V is the key. The is the key, that the

645
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: is the key. So yeah, the Egg Company says, all

646
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: of the eggs and everything else on the fairylands are

647
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: our property, um, which again they have no legal right to.

648
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: But they do have guns. So the lighthouse keepers do

649
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: understand America. They understand America. That said, the government had

650
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: guns too, So the Egg Company couldn't like kick the

651
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: lighthouse keepers off, but they could repeatedly threaten them with violence. Um. Now,

652
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: but the problem what would I don't understand that they

653
00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: were like, hey, we'll gonna get you. Yeah. Part of

654
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: the they were like, we don't. You can't. If you're

655
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: going to be here, you can't eat any of the

656
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: eggs or anything else. That's on the island, and they

657
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: were like, but we live here and it's the government's island.

658
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 1: So that starts the problem, um, and what kind of

659
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: continues it is that. So in eighteen fifty eight, this

660
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: guy named Amos Clift gets hired to be the head

661
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: keeper of the lighthouse, and Amos kind of organize the

662
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: other lighthouse keepers by saying like, hey, guys, our pay

663
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: is complete. Ship, like, we're not getting nearly enough money.

664
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: We have to live in this terrible death island in

665
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: in the ocean where it's always miserable. The least that

666
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 1: we can should be able to do is make a

667
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: funckload of money selling these eggs like these we have

668
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: a right to this island. The egg company people don't,

669
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: So why why don't we try profiting off of this ship, Like, hey,

670
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 1: you guys, we've got to have at least one perk here, yeah, yeah,

671
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: and that park should be getting rich off of the

672
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: egg rack. Yeah. Now, the problem is, of course there's

673
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: only a few lighthousekeepers. The Egg Company is basically a

674
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: mafia at this point, including the fact that it's filled

675
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: with Italians. Um. So, for the most part, the outnumbered

676
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: and vulnerable lighthouse crew tried to pick at the margins

677
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: of the company's egg business and avoid direct confrontation. Yeah.

678
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,720
Speaker 1: It worked for a little while. You got a guerrilla

679
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:22,720
Speaker 1: warfare that Yeah. Amos, however, was kind of impatient. Uh.

680
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 1: He was not willing to just nibble at the edges.

681
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: He wanted a big cut of that sweet sweet egg company.

682
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 1: And he was also a heavy drinker um which worked

683
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 1: at a lighthouse. You know, man, that is that's a

684
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: being ambitious and headstrong and and and an alcoholic. Yeah yeah, so,

685
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: author Susan Casey, he doesn't didn't write about being a drunk.

686
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: But author Susan Casey, who went through all of the

687
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: letters he sent home to his family during this period,

688
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: noticed like the way that he wrote would change over

689
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: the course of a long letter in a way that

690
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: heavily just drinking quote and almost all his letters, which

691
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: tended to run several pages, clifts. Elegant penmanship starts off

692
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: impressively and then morphs into a scrawling mess as the

693
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: handwriting degenerates. The complaints about his post became increasingly bitter,

694
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,720
Speaker 1: and his plans for total egg dominance grow larger in scale,

695
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 1: and a letter to Horace was one of his family members.

696
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 1: Written on November fifty nine, he outlined the situation. Before

697
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: I came here, this egg company used to have things

698
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 1: all their own way. But since I have been here,

699
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: things have taken a turn, and they have ascertained that

700
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: I am not as easily bluffed. I think it will

701
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 1: now be settled in the egg company driven off the island.

702
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: I shall not abate my efforts in the least, and

703
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 1: if I succeed, I may perhaps reap the benefits. Uh man,

704
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: he's gonna get the eggs. So imagine, I mean, just

705
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 1: from the another perspect like the egg company, this dude

706
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: shows up and they're like, it's already a nightmare here,

707
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 1: like this is hard enough. Do you think that they

708
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: called him a rotten egg? Behind back? Thank you? I've

709
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 1: been holding them in from the entire podcast. I like

710
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: to think any of these dudes use puns. No, No,

711
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: he was too drunk and too obsessed with eggs. Do

712
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: you want to know who's not too drunken obsessed with eggs? Though, Robert? Oh, Now,

713
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: the people of Raytheon are are big into the egg business.

714
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: In fact, there's the only right now are our friends

715
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: who are behind such wonderful inventions as the missile guidance

716
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 1: chip for the hell Fire missile and the missile guidance

717
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: chip for the r X nine the Knife missile. Are

718
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: working on a way to shoot eggs right into the

719
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 1: mouths of hungry people. It speeds exceeding forty feet per second.

720
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: Not rotten eggs, fresh eggs. We were trying to fade

721
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 1: him to perfection. Only the fresh, so fresh they will

722
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:50,439
Speaker 1: completely penetrate up to three human bodies before shattering. That's

723
00:40:50,480 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: the add ads. All right, we're we've were, we are,

724
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: we are, we are we are. You try that again, buddy, No, No,

725
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 1: we just are. We just are are. We just are

726
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 1: We're being That's true. Yeah. So for Amos Clift, the

727
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: egg racket meant a chance at more money than he like,

728
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: than he would ever have a chance of making anywhere else.

729
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 1: As he wrote back home to his family, the egg

730
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: seasons the months of May and June, and the profits

731
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: of the company after all expenses are paid, is every

732
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: year from five to six thousand dollars quite an item.

733
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: And if this island is government property, I have a

734
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: right to these eggs, and I am bound to try

735
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: and get it. And of course he also added that

736
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: once he got rich off of the eggs, the government

737
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 1: could kiss his foot. Um. So interesting, guy, Amos, He's

738
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,720
Speaker 1: decided this is how he's going to make his fortune,

739
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 1: and he's kind of revealing his moves though too a

740
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah. Yeah, this is the government's island, so

741
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: I have a right to the eggs, but also suck

742
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 1: the government once they get rich. Yeah, like, hey, man,

743
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: just leave the last part out, Dude, I think you

744
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: gotta play it. Yeah. Yeah, he wasn't. He wasn't a

745
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: smooth customer. So Amos organized the lighthouse keepers into a

746
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: brisk business that partly involved discouraging eggers from landing. Because

747
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: they're the lighthouse they can make it hard for boats

748
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 1: to land. Um. And yeah, they would also like basically

749
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: work with groups of eggers to stop other groups from

750
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: landing and get kickbacks from them. And of course they

751
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: also got involved in the business of gathering and smuggling

752
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 1: eggs back into the mainland. So he's gets a couple

753
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: of rackets set up. Uh what did micro cause him

754
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 1: of a city? Yeah? Yeah, it is a very San

755
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: Francisco story. Yeah, it's nice. Just immediately like we can

756
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 1: like this racket work for everybody. I think there's a

757
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: little bit of money around the edges of this. For me,

758
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: all I got any was over some people who aren't me.

759
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: Just every American story ever is just going like, oh

760
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 1: I got this, Yeah you can. There's a lot about

761
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: America in this tale. So right around the same time

762
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: as Amos is getting his his his egg scheme off

763
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: the ground, San Francisco's Daily Alta newspaper reported that the

764
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: egg company had begun to wage an open guerilla war

765
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: against the state, breaking up government roads as well as

766
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: drawing lines fencing off chunks of the island and putting

767
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: up warnings that light keepers and their families could only

768
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: cross on pain of death. So like destroying the roads

769
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: that were built to allow the lighthouse to function um

770
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: and to allow like like basically trying to cut off

771
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: their supply lines, fencing off the areas where the eggs are,

772
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: and threatening to murder government employees who cross onto egg territory.

773
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 1: In June of eighteen sixty is things escalated to a

774
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: point where lightkeepers felt unsafe to travel outside without rifles.

775
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: Clift wrote a letter to his family that we are

776
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: now in the midst of the egg season and the

777
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 1: egg Company and the Lightkeepers are at are now. Soon

778
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: after this point, the Eggers launched a full frontal assault

779
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,280
Speaker 1: on the Lightkeepers, trying to force them off the island

780
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: at gunpoint. In July, one of the assistant lightkeepers was

781
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: ambushed and injured. Justice Clift was plotting his response to

782
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: these offenses. The US government realized what was going on,

783
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: and rather than getting broiled in an egg based insurgency,

784
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: they fired Clift for the undue assumption to monopolize the

785
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: valuable privilege of collecting eggs. I hate to side with

786
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,879
Speaker 1: the government that they got a goddamn point on this one.

787
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: This kind of seemed like he was a problem. Do

788
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: you take any of his relatives, like he had some

789
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 1: smartass cousins or stuff. They're like, dude, you've got to

790
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: read Amos his egg letters. They are awesome. I think

791
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 1: he might be. I think he might be in some

792
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: real trouble. He's talking about gunfights. It's but he's talking

793
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 1: about eggs. It's the funniest ship you have ever heard,

794
00:44:55,719 --> 00:45:00,080
Speaker 1: uh people. Yeah. So, at the same time that the

795
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: egg company men were sparring with the lighthouse Keepers, another

796
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: rifle egg poaching company was forming with the goal of

797
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 1: conquering the Farrelland Islands for themselves and taking them from

798
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 1: the Egg Company. While the Egg Company was American run,

799
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: this new company was made up entirely of Italian immigrants.

800
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: Both claimed to have legal possession of the island, and

801
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 1: it seems unlikely that either did. From a local news

802
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: article at the time quote the chief of police and

803
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: a posse visit the scene. For a long time two

804
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: years or more, the right to gather the eggs on

805
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: the Farrelands Islands has been in dispute between rival companies,

806
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: and rumblings of approaching troubles between them have been heard

807
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: for a year. One of these companies has composed mainly

808
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 1: of Americans, and it is known that the far as

809
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: the Farrelands Egg Company. The other is made up of

810
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: Italian fishermen. The American company claimed to have had original

811
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: possession of the island and issued script in the usual

812
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 1: manner of corporations. The Italian company were subsequent claimants, and

813
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: in a suit between them and Judge Hager's Court lately

814
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: a writ of ejectment was sued against the Italians, who,

815
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: being in part possession, refused to obey the summons yesterday,

816
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: Chief Barks sent out officers Ellison Clark to arrest certain

817
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: of the Italians, and when they found two parties armed

818
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: to the teeth, in possession of different parts of the

819
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:08,240
Speaker 1: island and breathing defiance against each other, the officers attempted

820
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: to serve their writ but were opposed, and though the

821
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: partisans of the egg companies sided with the officers, they

822
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: were unable to effect the arrest of more than three

823
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: of the other party, the rest vowing that they were

824
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,240
Speaker 1: ready for a fight and would rather be shot down

825
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: than arrested. So yeah, yeah, I just I don't over eggs.

826
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: Starting a farm a little outside of town would have

827
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: been way easier than this. Yeah, it does seem like that.

828
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 1: Seems like that would have been eggs over easy, and

829
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: they chose eggs over hard. I can't even look at

830
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: you right now. I know, I know. I wanted to

831
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: throw the microphone, but it's mine. Yeah, well that's why

832
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: I missed the studio. We'd be throwing a lot. Yeah,

833
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: some for somebody said they are upset that we're not

834
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 1: throwing bagels anymore, and it's because we're own houses. That's

835
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 1: my property. No, I yeah, when I throw eggs in

836
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,439
Speaker 1: the in the office, it's Daniel who has to clean

837
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,439
Speaker 1: them up. And when I throw eggs in my own home,

838
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: it's well, not me still, but someone else who has

839
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,879
Speaker 1: to clean them up. Yeah. Wow, you're gonna make your

840
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: cat clean that up. Yeah, she loves eggs. Probably over

841
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: the next couple of years, that's one story. There were

842
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: multiple gunfights like that, and like they would send in

843
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: like police and soldiers to the island and there would

844
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: be like partisan sniping between the sides, and it just

845
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: kept happening between these Americans what are essentially American and

846
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 1: Italian gangs who are are smuggling eggs. Um. Yeah, it's

847
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 1: like the meth trade, but sillier. As the Smithsonian Institute notes,

848
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: it does not get you high. I mean, if you

849
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 1: eat only protein, you can get a little bit fucked up,

850
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: but not in a pleasant way. No, were like a

851
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 1: sick tier stomach way, feel good. Yeah. The egging season

852
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 1: became increasingly violent. In the words of one commentator, the

853
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: eight weeks between May and July evolved into an annual

854
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: naval engagement known as the Egg War. Brawls broke out

855
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 1: constantly between rival gangs, ranging in brutality, from threats and

856
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: shell throwings to stabbings and shootouts. The fighting was not

857
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: confined to the islands. Boats transporting eggs were hijacked regularly.

858
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: According to the San Francisco Examiner, there were many a

859
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: bitter and fatal encounter between larger parties of rival claimants

860
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 1: in boats mounting small cannons. Back in San Francisco, the

861
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: courts were barraged by a dizzy variety of egg related

862
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: cases that included charges of petite larceny, trespassing, property damage,

863
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: resisting an officer, and manslaughter. So cannons have entered into it.

864
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: Just well, we got lawyers involved, we got the press involved.

865
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: Now that. Now we've got arms dealers involved, gun runners

866
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: running guns to the eggmen. So they got they got raffles,

867
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 1: need a cannon. Oh yeah, those rifles aren't gonna work

868
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: if they brought cops into the matter. Just a cannon

869
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 1: is what you guys need. And I got a cannon, okay.

870
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: So it all came to a head. Finally, in the

871
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,720
Speaker 1: spring of eighteen sixty three, a man named David Batch

872
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:25,240
Speaker 1: Elder managed to gather together an army of Italian fishermen.

873
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 1: They made several attempts at an aquatic landing on the island,

874
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 1: each time the United States Revenue Cutter Service the Coastguard,

875
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: before the Coastguard caught them and took their guns. But

876
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 1: eventually batch Elder and his comrade succeeded in sneaking around

877
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: the cutter Service and landing on the island. On the

878
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,280
Speaker 1: evening of June three, eighteen sixty three, the fishermen sailed

879
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: out to the Fara Loans again and were met by

880
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 1: a group of armed Egg Company men. Isaac Harrington, the

881
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: company's foreman, warned the men who were trying to land

882
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 1: that they would do so at their peril. In return,

883
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 1: batch Elder shouted that they would come in spite of

884
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: hell um. And then things got a little bit less dramatic,

885
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: and the Italians got drunk on their boats all night

886
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: and spent the evening making fun of the people on

887
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: the shore. But then at dawn, but hungover Italian soldiers

888
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 1: attempted another landing. So these these hungover Italians try to

889
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 1: land again after making fun of the Egg Company all night,

890
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: and the employees of the Egg Company opened fire for

891
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: the next twenty minutes. There's just like a massive gun

892
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,879
Speaker 1: battle which includes cannons on both sides. By the time

893
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 1: the Italians retreat, one egg company man is dead and

894
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 1: five boatmen are wounded, one of whom was shot through

895
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: the throat and died a little bit later. So pretty

896
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 1: sizeable gunfight there. Now. This finally forced the government to

897
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 1: take action, not by banning egging, but by officially banning

898
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 1: everybody besides the Pacific Egg Company from egging. Unfortunately, for

899
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: a reason that cannot be explained, the company found fewer

900
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: and fewer eggs on the island every single year. There

901
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: were fewer birds too, and again no possible explanation as

902
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: to why this might have been happened. In true capitalistic fashion,

903
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 1: the egg company decided to make up for lost profits

904
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: by butchering hundreds and hundreds of seals and lions in

905
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: order to turn them into oil, because again, there's not

906
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: as many eggs anymore. Now this process the clubs. We

907
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 1: got clubs, we were using them to hit birds, but

908
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: now the birds are gone. At the birds they don't

909
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 1: want to come around anymore. Yes, uh, capitalism, I felt

910
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: that in my chest. So they start butchering sea lions

911
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 1: and seals, and the process of turning them into oil

912
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,879
Speaker 1: is like it's a nightmare. You basically like cut off

913
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: their fat and put them in these huge pots. So

914
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 1: you've got these giant pots of like boiling animal fat.

915
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 1: And since there's no money in cleaning up the rest,

916
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 1: they would just leave the putrefying carcasses of the sea

917
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: lions and the seals to rot next to these giant,

918
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 1: like bubbling cauldrons of fucking poison fat. The once pristine

919
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: wilderness of the Fara Loans were was filled with a

920
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: permanent haze of at smog and the stink of rotting

921
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: flesh permeated everything. So they just turning the more door

922
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: like they we've won the egg war. Let's ruin the islands. God, yeah,

923
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 1: it's good stuff. It is. It is, like, hey, that's

924
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 1: I think that's humanity right there. Yeah. Yeah. There's a

925
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: lot to say about climate change in this, including the

926
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 1: fact that after the company wins and begin committing genocide

927
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:30,720
Speaker 1: against a second species the they also start to attack

928
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:34,280
Speaker 1: the lighthouse operators again. Um. For one thing, the company

929
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 1: wanted to restrict the lighthouse operators and their families from

930
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: taking eggs for their personal use, even though the ships

931
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: that brought them food would often be late by weeks

932
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: due to bad weather, and sometimes they needed to hunt

933
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:47,399
Speaker 1: the local birds in order to survive. They also tried

934
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: to force the lighthouse to destroy its fog horn, which

935
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 1: existed purely to save the lives of boats filled with people.

936
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 1: But the fog horns scared the birds, so they were like,

937
00:52:55,719 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 1: you gotta shut that thing off. Just in eighteen eighty

938
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 1: one company men assaulted another lighthouse keeper for harvesting eggs,

939
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 1: and in May of that year, the fucking army had

940
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: to forcibly evict the egg company from the far Lands islands.

941
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 1: So I just can you imagine being the governor and

942
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: you just keep getting this this one island. You're like, God, damn,

943
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: these egg guys have to send the army out over eggs.

944
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: Army is this? Uh? And that happens, by the way,

945
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: that big gun battle between those two sides occurs like

946
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 1: the same time that Gettysburg is happening. It's just easily

947
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: a much more important battle. I think we can all agree. Well,

948
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: that just sounds like, oh, you guys are doing fighting.

949
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: We'll do fighting. You Gettysburg cowards out would really go

950
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 1: We'll do well, you know, you guys fighting over freedom.

951
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: We got eggs doing eggs. This is a West coast.

952
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 1: That is a West coast versus East coast. They like

953
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 1: they're fighting. It's like racism and slavery back there. You're like,

954
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 1: where are you guys? Eggs Yep, a slightly higher profit margin.

955
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:14,720
Speaker 1: So the egg war finally ends after like literally thirty

956
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 1: years of escalating violence. Um and in part because they

957
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 1: finally established chicken farms in Pedaluma and suddenly eggs every

958
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 1: every direction around San Francisco is farms, but they weren't yet.

959
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: It's I like, dude, that just immediately we started a brothel.

960
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 1: He's like, man, I'm not going back to that island

961
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: that I Am done with eggs all gonna be I mean,

962
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: eggs will still be involved, but in a lesser direct way. Yes, yes, yes,

963
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 1: so uh yeah. Mirror eggs became much less common over

964
00:54:56,520 --> 00:55:00,280
Speaker 1: the years because after four decades of taking all of

965
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 1: of not just smashing of like not just taking eggs,

966
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: but smashing all of the eggs on the island so

967
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 1: that they would lay more eggs and than taking all

968
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 1: of those the bird. The mirror population on the Phara

969
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 1: Loans dropped from an estimated four hundred thousand to sixty

970
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: thousand um because you know, yeah, it was a good

971
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 1: old fashioned genocide. So you could say there's a degree

972
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: to which the industry kind of destroyed itself because it

973
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 1: was greedy, uh, and made the environment that sustained it

974
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 1: no longer possible. Oh yeah, I guess there's no. No,

975
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 1: it's a thing that has never happened again and never

976
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 1: will happen again. Probably not happening right now. There's no

977
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 1: signs of that happening now. No, why would we? Why

978
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:47,720
Speaker 1: would we? Why would we do the same thing repeatedly, uh,

979
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: thousands of times until we all die? That doesn't sound

980
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:56,280
Speaker 1: like us. What if we just made seeds that only

981
00:55:56,280 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 1: worked once? Well, Billy, that's the war that was kind

982
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 1: of Yeah, it was. It was a hoot of one.

983
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: And I think it's like one of those where it's

984
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 1: like I don't think there's a bad guy and I

985
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 1: mean there's a good guy or a bad guy on

986
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 1: that one. Yeah, I think the good guy is the

987
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 1: guy who made that brothel on one. Yes, he was,

988
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: and he told some people about the reck. How did

989
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:23,919
Speaker 1: you get this brothel? He's like, Oh, there's an egg

990
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 1: island out there. I wouldn't go out there though, when

991
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 1: people are like good, He's like, I told you guys

992
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 1: not to go out there. Yeah. Um, it's a it's

993
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 1: a it's a hoot of a tale. Um. I should

994
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 1: note here that I found out after I had finished

995
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 1: researching and started writing that this is another episode that

996
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,320
Speaker 1: I think the Dollar beat me too, So like, to

997
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 1: hell with you, Dave, I'm gonna I'll get my revenge.

998
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna not do it because it was election

999
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: week when I wrote this, and I don't have that

1000
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: much time to research stuff. But yeah, it's okay, Yeah,

1001
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 1: it just happens. It's the Internet anyway, and they're both talented,

1002
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 1: so we did. Yeah. Um, so you know, listen to

1003
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 1: listen to both listen to both episodes, and then send

1004
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 1: Dave and I both extensive essays taking apart who did

1005
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 1: better at which portions? Um, because we I guarantee you

1006
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 1: will both read them and take them to heart. We'll

1007
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: just be like the press. We'll just sit over here

1008
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 1: and we'll be like, you guys should fight with guns.

1009
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 1: We're gonna be over here. That's what will let you

1010
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 1: guys fight. Yeah, I think I think Dave and I

1011
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 1: are going to do a joust over. I guess who

1012
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 1: has the right to talk about Henry Kissinger. I don't know.

1013
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: Exhausting project that should be I think that's its forces

1014
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 1: should be joined. Yeah, I've talked to actually we've yeah, yeah, yeah,

1015
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: we've talked a little bit about that idea. It's just

1016
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 1: a matter of people's schedules. And also, like, do you

1017
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: have any idea how hard it is to write an

1018
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 1: actual episode about Henry Kissinger? And it's it's when you

1019
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: said it too, was like I got excited, and then

1020
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: you get a little scared too, because you're like, he's

1021
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 1: still alive. I don't know. I've read to two books already,

1022
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 1: and I think I'm gonna need to read two more

1023
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 1: to be able to like realistically write a nice, succinct,

1024
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 1: four part episode about the man. He's still doing stuff.

1025
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 1: He's never going to stop. He's always he should be dead, Yes,

1026
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 1: he should. If you take nothing else out of this

1027
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:30,439
Speaker 1: episode about eggs, it's that Henry Kissinger ought to be dead.

1028
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 1: He may be eating those island eggs. That's a secret.

1029
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:41,439
Speaker 1: I think he eats islands and hope, Well, Billy, I'm

1030
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 1: a fan of him. If he's listening, I'm yeah, same here, Bill,

1031
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 1: you got anything you want a pluggety pluggety plug. I

1032
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 1: wasn't bored too. That was really fun. Um see if

1033
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 1: you can find me, uh and oh, I have a

1034
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 1: cannabis podcast. We interview the growers and the movers and

1035
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 1: shakers in that make up communities. Were season two. We're

1036
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 1: in Humboldt County right now, and they have opened our doors,

1037
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 1: I mean their arms in their doors to us in

1038
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 1: a way that we didn't foresee. So this season keeps

1039
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 1: getting longer. It's really cool. Now, Billy, one last question

1040
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 1: before we go out. If you were a strain of

1041
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 1: cannabis number one sativa or indica and number or hybrid

1042
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 1: I guess, and number two, what's going to be the

1043
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 1: ratio of th HC to cb D and the Billy

1044
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 1: Wayne Davis. Well, here's the thing, oh h they're having

1045
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 1: because of you know, legality, it's tough to get a strain.

1046
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 1: There's some strains that have the higher C B d UM.

1047
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,439
Speaker 1: It's just hard to find because what happens. And this

1048
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 1: is just from knowing, this is from doing this podcast,

1049
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 1: and I know just a smidge of the knowledge. But

1050
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 1: because of capitalism, Uh, they bread a bunch of ships

1051
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 1: and ruined some of the strains, but jacking up the

1052
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Speaker 1: THHC because you don't because you've got so many different

1053
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 1: cannabinoid receptors that they're just now learning about. So my

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01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 1: strain that I always go to is like I like

1055
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Speaker 1: a sativa. That's like it's it's one of the purest

1056
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Speaker 1: one is jack her air. Now most things are a

1057
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 1: hybrid now um because they've cross bread so much stuff

1058
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 1: that it's hard to find just a pure sativa or

1059
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 1: a pure endica. And again it's capitalism. And then you know,

1060
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Speaker 1: and some of the old land races are harder to

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01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 1: grow because of capitalism. There's just no money in it. Well, Billy,

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Speaker 1: I guess that's the same. I mean no, it was

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01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 1: kind of the same story that I just told you,

1064
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 1: but with marijuana and instead of eggs and more gunfights,

1065
01:00:55,600 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 1: but they're less publicized. Are talking? Well, we didn't answer

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01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:02,919
Speaker 1: this question. What if you were a type of egg?

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Speaker 1: What type of egg would you be? Like? How would

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01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 1: you would you be? Oh? Fucking ostrich? Hell? Yeah, go bigger,

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Speaker 1: go home, Billy. I like duck eggs. Yeah, And also

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01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 1: I just had some dullard duck eggs. Always ordered duck

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Speaker 1: if it's on the menu, and duck fat. Yeah. Recently,

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Speaker 1: we went out and went mushrooming and picked a bunch

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01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 1: of chantrells in the in the deep dark woods, and

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Speaker 1: then had a fucking My friends brought over a duck

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Speaker 1: they'd slaughtered, and we had and I kept the duck fat.

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Speaker 1: So I was just every day for like the next week,

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01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 1: I was just throwing duck fat, and every goddamn thing

1078
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 1: I made sounds awesome. Duck ship, duck fats amazing. Well,

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Speaker 1: everybody eats some fucking duck fat. Destroy capitalism or at

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Speaker 1: least eggs. I don't know. The episodes over