1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM paranormal 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: podcast network. Now get ready for us Strange Things with 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: Joshua P. Warren. 4 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,159 Speaker 2: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 2: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 2: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 7 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: to Coast AM, employees of Premiere Networks, or their sponsors 8 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 9 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 2: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. 10 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: Yes, ready to be amazed by the wizard of weird. 11 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: This is strange when JOA Warren, I am Joshua You 12 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: warren't And each week on this show, I'll be bringing 13 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: you brand new mind blowing content, news exercises, and weird 14 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: experiments you can do at home, and a lot more. 15 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: On this edition of the show, here's a wild grab 16 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: bag of stuff to ponder. Mental manner. Now, this is 17 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: an unusual edition of the show because it's gonna be 18 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 1: kind of all over the place. That is, because when 19 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: you do a show like this professionally on a regular basis, 20 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: it really is a job that never ends. I mean, 21 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: I spend every waking hour of every day sort of 22 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: scanning the world around me, looking for ideas, topics to 23 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: talk about and explore experiments that I can do or 24 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: that you can do. I'm always thinking about something that 25 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: can come across well on the show, and especially because 26 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: as you know, this is not really an interview show. 27 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: I mean, occasionally, rarely I'll interview somebody, but for the 28 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: most part, I don't do interviews on this show because 29 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 1: everybody else does that I'm doing something different, and honestly, 30 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: I can say that for me, this job is kind 31 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 1: of a twenty four to seven job because even when 32 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: I'm sleeping, I'm vividly dreaming, and those dreams sometimes make 33 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: it into the show. So here's what I end up with. 34 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: I end up with thousands of notes all around me 35 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: all the time, whether they're on the phone or scribbled 36 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: on pieces of paper, just things that I think of 37 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: that are interesting to me, that I jot down and 38 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: say maybe at some point I'll find an opportunity to 39 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: talk about this on the show. And I sat down 40 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: just the other day and I was looking at a 41 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: bunch of these and I thought, you know, I'm not 42 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: sure that anything could tie all this stuff together. There's 43 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: no common thread that I can see other than the 44 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: fact that these are all things that I'm interested in. 45 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: So I said, you know what, let me just do 46 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: a show where I just take some of these things 47 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: that I have thought about that I think are interesting 48 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: and just toss it out there to you and get 49 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: your feedback. This is what I call mental manna, similar 50 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: to just those things that make you go hmm. And 51 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: so I'm not even sure where we're going to go 52 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: on the show, but let's just dive right into it 53 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: see what happens. One thing I believe we can all 54 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: relate to is something that was brought up recently and 55 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: a conversation that Bill Maher had on his podcast with 56 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: the actor Malcolm McDowell, who, of course is most famous 57 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: for playing the lead role in the Stanley Kubrick movie 58 00:03:56,200 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: at Clockwork Orange. They were talking about the way that 59 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: technology has developed, because both of these guys are up 60 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: there in years, and I believe it was Malcolm McDowell, 61 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: I'm not sure it may have been Bill Maher. One 62 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: of them said that, you know, television was the Internet 63 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: of its time, and now you see how things have 64 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: changed and how we've not only gotten into this you know, 65 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: internet age, but we also have this attention span that's 66 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: getting shorter and shorter because of how quickly information travels. 67 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: I mean, we're now sort of in I mean, look 68 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: in a text. Some people don't even write a full sentence. 69 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: They just basically put some symbols down there and some 70 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: leaps speak to get points across. It's almost like the 71 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: old days of telegraph even faster though, or the whole 72 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: Twitter mentality that's just you know, get it out there 73 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 1: in a line or two. Because you're so bombarded with information. 74 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: The attention span is so short that you know, I 75 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 1: remember when I was a kid, you would order something 76 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: and you knew that maybe it was going to show 77 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: up in a couple of weeks. Now you order something 78 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: from Amazon and it might be there the same day 79 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: or the next day. And so people get frustrated if 80 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: they have to wait a couple of weeks for something 81 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: because they order it from a normal person. And you know, 82 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: I was talking about the experiment that I've been doing 83 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: with the time camera and how that and this again 84 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: is probably a little more relevant to people who are 85 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: maybe forty years old or older. But you know, back 86 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: when you were younger, when people were still using polaroid cameras. 87 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 1: You know, you'd push the button this was would pop out, 88 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: and it was like a miracle because you could develop 89 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: your own film right there on the spot. And so 90 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 1: I've recently started working with polaroid again and I asked people, so, 91 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: how long has it been since you developed the polaroid photo? 92 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: They say, well, probably been twenty years, thirty years. And 93 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: I say, how long do you think it takes for 94 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: a polaroid picture to develop? And they usually say, like, 95 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: I don't know, two or three minutes. It turns out 96 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: it's ten or fifteen minutes. And when you wait for 97 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: a polaroid to develop now for ten or fifteen minutes, 98 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: it takes it seems like it takes forever. This is 99 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: just an example of how again I think art Belt 100 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 1: called this the quickening, this increase and the frequency of 101 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: all action and information and everything that you're thinking about 102 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: and interacting with and everything that you're expecting to come 103 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: to you. And it's getting faster and faster. Even in 104 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: the Internet. You may remember dial up internet. I mean, 105 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: if you had to wait around for internet that's that 106 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: slow these days, you would throw your computer out the window. 107 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: We expect things instantaneous, and you know what, we are 108 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: almost going to have instantaneous computing. You know, right now 109 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: they're working on quantum caning, and that should be basically instantaneous. 110 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: At some point there will be no delay whatsoever. Look 111 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: at the history of aircraft. How that aircraft, I mean, 112 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: it just keeps getting faster and faster. I don't know 113 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: how fast the Wright Brothers plane could go, but you 114 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: know now we're shooting off rockets into outer space to 115 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: go twenty five thousand miles per hour. I mean. And 116 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: if you follow that train of thought and you start 117 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: imagining that as civilizations evolve and develop, that things happen 118 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: faster and faster and faster, and then you imagine that 119 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: some of these UFOs that we see flying around are 120 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: from extremely advanced civilizations of some kind, then it would 121 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: kind of make sense that their aircraft could travel at 122 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: rates that are are mind boggling to us, almost instantaneous. 123 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: And you know that we think sometimes about like, well, 124 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: it's but there are still physical laws. There's no way 125 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: that a UFO could just teleport itself from here to 126 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: there or travel, you know, a thousand miles per hour, 127 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: accelerating from one to two seconds and all this kind 128 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: of stuff. It's it's physically impossible. Well, you know what, 129 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: a lot of scientists used to believe that breaking the 130 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: sound barrier was impossible as well. Have you ever seen 131 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: the movie The Right Stuff They dig into that. There 132 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: were people who thought that if you were in an 133 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: aircraft and you could somehow go faster than the speed 134 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: of sound, that it would just destroy everything. It was. 135 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: It was it was a wall that could not be broken, 136 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: and it seemed that way for years until finally Chuck 137 00:08:54,360 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: Yeger did it. So I'm thinking that maybe our understanding 138 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 1: of the laws of physics is not complete and that 139 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: these advanced craft can travel at these high rates of 140 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: speed because that it is part of the natural progression 141 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: of the evolution of civilization. And that's also why that 142 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: I've captured some of my most interesting UFOs by going 143 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: outside and using a high speed camera which shoots at 144 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: least one thousand frames per second, so that you can 145 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: actually capture things that are otherwise moving too fast for 146 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: the human eye to see the naked human eye. It 147 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: slows things down as you're actually videotaping it. And when 148 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: you consider however, that we have all these amazing tools. 149 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: It's like I saw some meme the other day, and 150 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: I can't remember exactly how it was set up, but 151 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: there was a sort of a googly eyed school teacher 152 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: there and the caption was teachers in the nineties, and 153 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: the teacher was saying, you're not always gonna have a 154 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: calculator on you, ha ha. Little did they know, right, 155 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: we pretty much always have a calculator. And that's probably 156 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: why people are, I would imagine, worse at math than 157 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: ever now, because I mean, how was the last time 158 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: you had to really read an old fashioned map and 159 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: memorize a route from A to B to C when 160 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: you're driving your car? I mean, you know, you just 161 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: punch it in and follow the Google the Google instructions 162 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: or whatever you use. So are humans, despite the fact 163 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: that we're becoming more and more advanced, are we individually 164 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: becoming smarter or dumber? And I guess you could say 165 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: the same thing collectively in a way, I mean, the 166 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: collection is made up of the individual. So are humans 167 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: becoming smarter or dumber? Look at what the ancient people knew, 168 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: and look at the things that they accomplished, the things 169 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: that they understood the time that they took to observe 170 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: the sky and memorize things and look for patterns, And now, 171 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 1: like I say, people can barely do math anymore. When 172 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: we come back from this break, I want to tell 173 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: you a story that's kind of funny, but it's about 174 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: something that annoyed me the other day when I went 175 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: to a restaurant and it kind of leads into something 176 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: you've probably heard about before, called the Peter principle. And 177 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: you know, the longer I live, the more I believe 178 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: in this thing called the Peter principle. Who knows what 179 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: we're going to get into on this show. Hey, you know, 180 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: do you like this show? Do you want me to 181 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: keep doing it? It's a free show. 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I am Paranormal 200 00:12:49,600 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: Podcast Network, and I will be right back. Welcome back 201 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: to Strange Things, Oh the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast, 202 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: a m paranormal podcast network. I am your host, the 203 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: Wizard of Weird, Joshua P. Warren, beaming into your wormhole 204 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: brain from my studio in Sin City, Las Vegas, Nevada, 205 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: where every day is golden and every night is silver. 206 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: Agiatato Zoom. And here in Vegas, out west, there is 207 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: a chain of restaurants in a few states I was 208 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: going to I thought about telling you the name of 209 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: the restaurant, and I've just decided not to do it 210 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: because I don't think this is worth causing any problems 211 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: for a business. You know, I say something on a 212 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: forum like this and a lot of people are going 213 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: to hear about it. But it's a chain, it's small chain. 214 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: There are fifty eight locations of this restaurant out west, 215 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: and I'm not even going to tell you the type 216 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: of food that they serve. That would give it away 217 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: in a heartbeat. But here's here's what's kind of interesting 218 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: about this type of restaurant. And you know, gosh, there 219 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: are thousands of restaurants in Las Vegas, a lot of 220 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: places to pick and choose from this particular place. It's 221 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: one of those establishments that's it's set up kind of 222 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: like a high class fast food restaurant. So what I 223 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: mean by that is when you walk in, you know, 224 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: it has the counter just like at McDonald's, where you 225 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: go up and you place your order, but then it 226 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: takes a long time for them to make the food. 227 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: You sit there with your number, and they also have 228 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: beer and wine, so you see what I mean. It's 229 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: like a little step up in some regards from like 230 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: your traditional fast food establishment. So I went in there 231 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: recently with my wife Lauren, and here was my plan. 232 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: Knowing that I was going to have to wait for 233 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: them to prepare the food a bit, I figured, well, 234 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: while I'm waiting, I will sit down and drink a beer. 235 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: So I walked in. I was going to go up 236 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: to the counter to order, and this young lady who 237 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: works there sort of rushed up and says, oh, you 238 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: can use the kiosk. Oh go okay. I said, well, 239 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: because you know how it is these days. I'm sure 240 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: you've seen the fast food kiosk with the touchscreens, even 241 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: though you're standing inside there and I'm talking to an employee. 242 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: Use the computer here, okay. And I said, well, but 243 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: here's what i'd like to do. I would like to 244 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: place my order and then sit down and drink a 245 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: beer while I'm waiting for the food to be prepared. 246 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: And she goes, yeah, okay, you could just just order 247 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: on the kiosk. And I said, so I can order 248 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: a beer through the kiosk, and she says, yeah yeah. 249 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: I was like, huh, that's surprising, because you know, I 250 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: usually it's I'm sure at some point I'm gonna have 251 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: to show an ID to somebody. I guess but and 252 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: I go, all right, fine, So I go over to 253 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: the kiosk. I order everything, get to the beverages. There's 254 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: no alcohol listed there, so I order everything except the alcohol, 255 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: and I say to her, excuse me, excuse me, there's 256 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: no place to order a beer, and she goes, yeah, 257 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: there isn't know there. So she comes over and she 258 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: looks and she goes, huh, okay, well you'll have to 259 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: go over there and order at the counter. Then okay, 260 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: that's what I was going to do. So then I 261 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: finish up my order on the on the kiosk for 262 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: everything else. Now I have to stay and in the 263 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 1: line behind some other people. And then when I get 264 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: up there in line, I say I would like just 265 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: to order a beer, you know, and they're like, okay, thanks, 266 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 1: have a seat, we'll bring it out to you. So 267 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: then I go and I sit down, and oh, I 268 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: would say, about eight minutes later my food came out, 269 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: and then like nine minutes later my beer comes out, 270 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 1: and I'm like, this makes no sense. I actually have 271 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 1: just been able to walk in there and be like, 272 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 1: I'll take the beer right now, here's my order. I'll 273 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: be over here, let me know when the food's done, 274 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: and I'm done with that beer by the time. Now look, 275 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,959 Speaker 1: I know you're thinking, Josh, you're making a mountain out 276 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: of a mole hill here, But it's just an example 277 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: of the way that we are substituting technology for common 278 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: sense these days. It reminds me of this time I 279 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 1: was at an airport and I can't remember where I was, 280 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: but I same kind of thing. I went into a 281 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: bar and I ordered some you know, glass of wine 282 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: or something like that while I was waiting for a flight. 283 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 1: And then after I sat down, there was this man 284 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: behind me and he was every bit of ninety five 285 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: years old. Okay, this is one of the oldest looking 286 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: men I've ever seen. And he orders a beer and 287 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: the guy, who's like twenty five years old, says, I 288 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: got to see your ID. And the old man just 289 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 1: looks at him for a second goes, are you serious 290 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 1: and he says yeah, and he goes, well, it's in 291 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: it's in my in my suitcase. He's like sorry. He 292 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 1: makes this old man get down on his hands and 293 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 1: knees and open unzip his suitcase and pull through all 294 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: of his clothes to get just like, this is not 295 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 1: a rubber mask. And I know they're like, well, I'm 296 00:18:56,160 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 1: on camera. I'm on camera, and I have to do this. Okay, Fine, 297 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: that's probably what the Nazis said, that the guarding the 298 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 1: camps just following orders. I don't know. I think that 299 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: there should be a little more common sense used in 300 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: some of these occasions, on some of these occasions nowadays. 301 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 1: But when you start looking at the quality of businesses 302 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: these days, and you start thinking about the fact that 303 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: you know, there are people who are like my parents' age, 304 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: and maybe I'm just becoming a grumpy old man. You know, 305 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: I'm getting closer to fifty and so. And you might think, well, Josh, 306 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: you are always just mister optimist. You're always talking about 307 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: the power positive thinking. It's like, yeah, because that doesn't 308 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 1: come natural to me. I have to work on it. 309 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: That's why I need tools and I need techniques, and 310 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: why I share stuff with you that helps me, because 311 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: I'm not naturally the most optimistic person. I'll get back 312 00:19:56,359 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: to that a little bit later, actually, but it anyway, 313 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 1: when you consider that like people my parents' age, they 314 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: used to they'd get a job somewhere and they'd make 315 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: a career out of it. They'd be there for who 316 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: knows how long, maybe they'd be there for thirty years 317 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 1: or something like that, and they would retire and then 318 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: go off and maybe they can travel and make some 319 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: of their dreams come true. Now, people just they come 320 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 1: and go from like you go to a business, head 321 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 1: back to that business six months later, totally different group 322 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: of people. And all this reminds me of this thing 323 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: you probably heard of called the Peter principle, But do 324 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: you know what that really means and where that really 325 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 1: comes from. The Peter principle is a concept in management 326 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: that was developed by a man named Lawrence J. Peter. 327 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: That makes sense right, and he died in nineteen ninety. 328 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: He was a Canadian educator and he was sort of 329 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: a I guess you could say a bit of a 330 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 1: psychologist who studied how people organized their thinking. And he 331 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: developed this concept which observes that people in any kind 332 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: of a hierarchy tend to rise to quote a level 333 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: of respective incompetence. So what that means is that employees 334 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 1: are promoted based upon their success and previous jobs until 335 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 1: they reach a level at which they are no longer 336 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: competent as skills in one job do not necessarily translate 337 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: to another, and then they stay there. And he wrote 338 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: this book, the Peter Principle, along with another man named 339 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 1: Raymond Hole, and they kind of at first intended this 340 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 1: to be satire, but it rang so true that it 341 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: became really popular because it made a very serious point 342 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 1: about the shortcomings of how people are promoted within organizations. 343 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: So here's a nice little summary of exactly what it is. 344 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 1: Now think about this. The Peter principal states that a 345 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: person who is competent at their job will earn a 346 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: promotion to a position that requires different skills. If the 347 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: promoted person lacks the skills required for the new role, 348 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: they will be incompetent at the new level and will 349 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: not be promoted again. If the person is competent in 350 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: the new role, they will be promoted again and will 351 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: continue to be promoted until reaching a level at which 352 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: they are incompetent. Being incompetent, the individual will not qualify 353 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:52,439 Speaker 1: for promotion again and so will remain stuck at this 354 00:22:52,880 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: final placement, or what they call Peter's plateau. So you 355 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: could also just say, in a hierarchy, every employee tends 356 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: to rise to his level of incompetence. How many people 357 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: do you know out there who have reached Peter's plateau? 358 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: Is it possible that most of the people that you 359 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: encounter in this day and age are at Peter's plateau? 360 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 1: I kind of feel like that that makes perfect sense 361 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: to me. And because you know, the right thing to do, 362 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: I guess would be to go to this person and 363 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: be honest and say, instead of firing them or just 364 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: keeping them where they are, say you were doing a 365 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: much better job where you were before. So I know 366 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: that that's you know, it hurts people and it even 367 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 1: destroys them sometimes to think they're going to get a demotion. 368 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: But I think if you are demoted back to where 369 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 1: you were performing well, well, for one thing, you're gonna 370 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 1: be happier, You're probably gonna have more job security, and 371 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,439 Speaker 1: you might even make yourself so valuable that you end 372 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: up getting more money for doing that position. So look, 373 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: I'm just tossing all this stuff out there as a 374 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 1: guy who has hired a lot of people for various 375 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: roles over the years. But when we come back from 376 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 1: this break, but also when it comes to leadership, you know, 377 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: where do you think this term comes from the Head 378 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: Haun Show. This guy's the head Haunt Show. I want 379 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: you to think about this during the break. What language 380 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: do you think that word honchho comes from. It's got 381 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 1: a really interesting story behind it. I'm going to tell 382 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: you that when we return. And then also I have 383 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 1: a tell a historic tale for you about something that 384 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: happened to the great Benjamin Franklin. They call it the 385 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: Cockpit Incident. I'm Joshua Pee Warren. You're listening to Strange 386 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal 387 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: Podcast Network, and I'll be back after these important messages. 388 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast 389 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. I'm your host, Joshua 390 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: Pee Warren, and this is the show where the unusual 391 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: becomes usual. Hey, here's another story for you real quick. 392 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 1: So there's this movie theater I like to go to 393 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 1: here in Vegas and it has a bar, and uh, 394 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 1: I think I just found one of the one of 395 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 1: the common threads in these stories. It's about me going 396 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 1: to bars and drinking. It's Las Vegas, and you know 397 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,919 Speaker 1: they don't call it sin city for nothing. Everywhere you 398 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: go around here, you can drink and gamble twenty four 399 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: to seven. I mean the grocery store, the I mean 400 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: gas stations, and and if you're a smoker, I mean, 401 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: I think it's almost unheard of these days in our country, 402 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,360 Speaker 1: but you can go into tons of bars and casinos 403 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 1: and smoke indoors to your heart's content. And I am 404 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: not a smoker, but I'm just letting you know that. 405 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: I mean, this is the most free place, perhaps you'd 406 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: say the freest place in the country. And yet at 407 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: this particular movie theater, a lot of times when I 408 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 1: go to see a movie, I will go to the 409 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: bar if they have one, and I will order a drink, 410 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: an alcoholic drink to take into the movie theater. So 411 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: there is at this one bar I walked up the 412 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: very first time. Actually, let me just put it this way. 413 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: There's this lady there. She's always the bartender at this bar. 414 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: So the first time I met her, I walked up 415 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 1: to her and I told her that I wanted to 416 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: get I think it was a glass of wine. So anyway, 417 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,239 Speaker 1: so she gives me a glass of wine after she 418 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: cards me. And that's not common in Vegas to get carted, 419 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: so she looks at my ID and then then I 420 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: go to the movie. And then it was a long movie, 421 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 1: and it was kind of a boring movie, and I think, 422 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: like Lauren wanted to watch the rest of the movie, 423 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 1: and I didn't really care that much. So I go, 424 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go get another glass of wine. So I 425 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: go back to the bar and I order from her 426 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: another glass of wine. She asked for my ID again 427 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 1: and I said, well, and we had just I had 428 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: like a long conversation with her. By the way, I 429 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: was like the only customer at the bar, and I said, 430 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 1: you got to see my idea again, and she goes yeah, 431 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: And I goes, what do you what do you think 432 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: I have an identical twin and even if I did, 433 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: he would still be my age. She goes, oh, sorry, 434 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: I gotta do it. The camera is watching me, all right. 435 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: So I had to take my ID out and show 436 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: it to her for my second drink. And since then, 437 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: over the years, I've gone back to this theater and 438 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: every time I go in, this woman always wants to 439 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: see my ID, even if I order, you know, two 440 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: drinks during one movie. Anyway, Yeah, common sense, I wish 441 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: do we just let computers and cameras rule every decision 442 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: that we make these days. So what language do you 443 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: think the word honcho comes from? Well, it actually is Japanese. 444 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: And from what I've found, during World War Two, when 445 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: a lot of Americans were serving in the Pacific, they 446 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: became aware that hancho was the Japanese word for leader. 447 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: And so if somebody were let's say a group of 448 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: guys were taken captive, then they would want to know 449 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: who the head honchho was. Who's the head leader in 450 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: charge of this group? You know, which may sound a 451 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: little redundant, but you know, there's different levels of hierarchy. 452 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: So this word made it back into the US. It 453 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: continued to become popular. So the head hot show is 454 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: just the top leader, and that's a Japanese I always 455 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: I love those kinds of stories where you dig into 456 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: the word origins. Well, let's move on to something else, now, 457 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: shall we. Now it's time for something completely different, maybe 458 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: not actually, you know, I'm talking about leadership and the 459 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: way that organizations are set up. And I don't, as 460 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 1: you know, I do my darnness to avoid talking about 461 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 1: politics on this show. You don't need to hear that here, 462 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: you get it everywhere else. But it is interesting to 463 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: think about the role that our government's played and why 464 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: that these governments are here, and what it says about 465 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 1: the world that we live in, because you know, there 466 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: was a one of the I guess one of the 467 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: popular writers back during the period of the American Revolution 468 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: was Thomas Paine, and he said that government is a 469 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: necessary evil. Government is a necessary evil. I've always thought 470 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: that was fascinating to think about that because there are 471 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:28,959 Speaker 1: lots of people out there who believe that we are 472 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: actually living in a rung of hell. And that may 473 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: sound pretty extreme, but you have to realize, like, even 474 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: if your life is great, that doesn't mean there aren't 475 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: people out there who are not having a horrible experience 476 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: right now. But the one thing we all have in 477 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: common is that life is full of suffering, whether it's fntal, 478 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: physical or mental or emotional. I mean, like your body 479 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: he breaks down. Eventually, everybody that you know and love 480 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: is going to perish. They're going to be they're going 481 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: to be in the ground, or who knows what. And 482 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: it's sad. It's said, so is is this actually a 483 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: rung of of hell? And there. You know, there's a 484 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: passage from the Federalist Papers attributed to James Madison, and 485 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: he wrote, if angels were to govern men, neither external 486 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 1: nor internal controls on government would be necessary. Let me 487 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: read that again. He said, quote, if angels were to 488 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would 489 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: be necessary. End quote, the implication being, well, but angels 490 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: are not governing governing men, and so we need some controls. 491 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: That this is the fact that we need government to 492 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: prevent humans, in theory from doing bad things. Means that 493 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: that is the tendency of humans, which kind of goes 494 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: back to the idea of original sin, that we all 495 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: are here because that we have something to learn. You know, 496 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:29,719 Speaker 1: we have some bad baggage in our spirits and we 497 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: are here to learn to be better beings. And part 498 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: of that is it is dealing with suffering without flipping 499 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: out and doing something crazy, being able to handle it 500 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: and learn from it. I guess that's the idea. And 501 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: this reminds me a lot, for some reason, of this 502 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: incident that happened in the life of Benjamin Franklin. Benjamin Franklin, 503 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 1: of course, was just one of the greatest geniuses who 504 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: ever lived. He was a beloved figure among the Americans 505 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: and the founding fathers. Benjamin Franklin he lived from seventeen 506 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: oh six to seventeen ninety, and you know, long life, 507 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: and so during that period of time he was extremely famous. 508 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 1: He was beloved. And you also have to understand that 509 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: during that period of time, America was one of the 510 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: British colonies. And so what that means is that people 511 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: who lived here, who grew up in most of the 512 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: seventeen hundreds, they thought of themselves as being a type 513 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 1: of Englishmen. They weren't because they were born here in 514 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 1: many cases, but because it was a British colony, they 515 00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 1: thought of themselves as an extension of that. And Ben 516 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 1: Franklin he kind of idolized the English culture. He went 517 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 1: to England when he was a very young man, and 518 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: he ingratiated himself with the people there, and as he 519 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: got older, he was spending in many cases just as 520 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: much time in England as he was America. And when 521 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 1: tensions started to rise between America and Britain, which of 522 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 1: course would eventually culminate in the Revolutionary War, he was 523 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 1: doing whatever he could to try to alleviate some of 524 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,240 Speaker 1: the pressure. He thought war would be a horrible idea, 525 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: because he was smart. By seventeen seventy four, though, there 526 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 1: was so much dissatisfaction with the British rule in America, 527 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: sort of growing that Franklin, who was then Postmaster of 528 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 1: the Colonies, he was in England and he was doing 529 00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 1: everything he could to try to urge some compromise there. 530 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: And there was this one guy who just did not 531 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:13,359 Speaker 1: like him, this Englishman named Alexander Wedderburn, and he disagreed. Well, 532 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:18,240 Speaker 1: he didn't like Franklin's celebrity. He looked down upon Franklin 533 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 1: for being an American. He thought of him as being 534 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: kind of a redneck. And so he asked Benjamin Franklin 535 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: to show up for a meeting in front of all 536 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 1: these distinguished British politicians at this place they called the 537 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 1: cockpit because back in the day they used to have 538 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 1: cock fights there. So Franklin thought he was walking into 539 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: this room full of Englishmen just so that they could 540 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 1: talk about compromise instead that he got kind of ambushed, 541 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: and this guy, Alexander Wedderburn gets up on a pulpit 542 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 1: there and he just spends an hour talking about how 543 00:36:56,239 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: he does not like Benjamin Franklin. What a disgrace Benjamin 544 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 1: Franklin is. He literally says that, Okay, we got to 545 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 1: take a break. We come back. I'm gonna explain to 546 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 1: you why that I'm telling you this story. It's very 547 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: meaningful and it's kind of inspirational in a way. And 548 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 1: then also trivia question for you, where do you think 549 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 1: is the only place in the world where you might 550 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 1: find a wild red wolf. I'm Joshua P. Warren. You're 551 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 1: listening to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to 552 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:36,439 Speaker 1: Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network, and I will be right back. 553 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the final segment of this edition of 554 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,760 Speaker 1: Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM 555 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 1: Paranormal Podcast Network. I am your host, Joshua P. Warren. 556 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 1: And never forget what comedian Stephen Wright said, half of 557 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 1: the people you know are below average. That is true. 558 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 1: That is true. Maybe maybe I shouldn't say half the 559 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: people you know, but half the people out there are 560 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 1: below average. Probably half the people you know. Hey, here's 561 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 1: some here's a quick mental manna tip. I found that 562 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,280 Speaker 1: if you want your doctor to do a better job 563 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:04,360 Speaker 1: and be very careful with you. They they do a 564 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,879 Speaker 1: better job if when they start doing whatever they're gonna do, 565 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 1: you just scream really loud like ah. Now they're used 566 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 1: to hearing regular screaming, so you've got to take it 567 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:23,239 Speaker 1: to eleven. And then they go, whoa, we got a 568 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 1: screamer here. And then they kind of wake up and 569 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,360 Speaker 1: they start telling the rest of the staff, and everybody 570 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,760 Speaker 1: takes really good care with you. Know, they're very careful 571 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 1: with you, So don't forget that lesson. Benjamin Franklin was 572 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 1: standing in this arena, so to speak, called the cockpit, 573 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 1: with this Englishman just absolutely telling him he was a disgrace. 574 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 1: The englishman said, quote, Franklin has forfeited all of the 575 00:39:54,960 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 1: respect of societies and of men, end quote. Throughout this 576 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 1: whole hour, they say that Franklin just stood there still. 577 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure he was in shock. He was showing no emotion, 578 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,799 Speaker 1: said he was conspicuously erect, without the smallest movement of 579 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 1: any part of his body, his unchanging expression tranquil, placid. 580 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:27,839 Speaker 1: And when this was over, Franklin, they asked Franklin if 581 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,359 Speaker 1: he wanted to be cross examined and Franklin just said nope, 582 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:36,720 Speaker 1: and he turns around and walks out the door. There's 583 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:43,840 Speaker 1: no telling how damaging and this was to Franklin because 584 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,880 Speaker 1: he had such admiration for the English and he thought 585 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 1: he'd sort of been adopted by them, and this just 586 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,840 Speaker 1: hurt him to the very core because he admired the 587 00:40:53,920 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 1: English culture so much. But historians say that terrible experience 588 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 1: for him. That was the day when Benjamin Franklin became 589 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 1: a true American and that's when he left and he 590 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 1: went out and he started raising money left and right 591 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:21,240 Speaker 1: and inspiring people and organizing things that would help to 592 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 1: create the American Revolution. And if Franklin had stuck with 593 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 1: trying to, you know, create some compromise with the English, 594 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 1: there may have never been a war. A lot of 595 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:38,960 Speaker 1: people say, this guy, Alexander Wedderburn is possibly the man 596 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 1: who cost England America because of this one jerk. And 597 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,280 Speaker 1: you know, Benjamin Franklin was never a president. Some people. 598 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,239 Speaker 1: You know, I talked about Benjamin Franklin a while back, 599 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 1: and I said that, you know, Grizzly Adams named his 600 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,839 Speaker 1: bear Ben after Benjamin Franklin because people were really into 601 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 1: the presidents. I wasn't insinuating that Benjamin Franklin was a president, 602 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 1: just that he hung out with all of the first 603 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,319 Speaker 1: presidents and he was part of that culture. He very 604 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:09,240 Speaker 1: easily could have been a president, and he probably only 605 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 1: was not a president just because he was too old 606 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 1: by the time all of that went down. My point 607 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 1: is that this terrible experience for this great man was 608 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 1: what was necessary in order for him to go out 609 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 1: and do something that was very, very difficult, but ended 610 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 1: up creating this wonderful country that I live in and 611 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:42,480 Speaker 1: the freedom that I enjoy here. And this is again 612 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 1: the mystery of optimism, that you can't always just take 613 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 1: something bad at face value and just allow yourself to 614 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:55,839 Speaker 1: stay down on the dumps. You have to look at 615 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,239 Speaker 1: it as motivation for you to go out and do 616 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 1: something pausive. As they say, when one door closes, another opens, 617 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,239 Speaker 1: no matter how bad it is. And that's how you 618 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:12,879 Speaker 1: also kind of have to think about even dying. I mean, 619 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,760 Speaker 1: even if this is some rung of hell or whatever, 620 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 1: we know we're going to die, and I suppose that 621 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 1: you have to be optimistic by having faith in a 622 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 1: rewarding afterlife. But you know what, even if you don't 623 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 1: even if you're an atheist and you don't believe in anything. 624 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 1: Mark Twain said, quote, I do not fear death. I 625 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 1: had been dead for billions and billions of years before 626 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:45,800 Speaker 1: I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience 627 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 1: from it. End quote. So, hey, I guess whether you 628 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:57,319 Speaker 1: believe in nothingness or in afterlife, there's the potential for 629 00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 1: it to be positive when you move on. There is 630 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 1: also the potential that you've been a bad person and 631 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 1: you're not gonna like what happens to you next, which 632 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 1: is why you better avoid that and do the best 633 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 1: you can to be a good person. The mystery of 634 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 1: optimism isn't that funny? Again? It's like a big classroom. 635 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 1: You're supposed to maintain that mindset. I ask you a 636 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 1: trivia question before the break. Where do you think is 637 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 1: the only place in the wild where red wolves are found? 638 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 1: You know what a red wolf is. Let me just 639 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 1: tell you a red wolf. Its size is intermediate between 640 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,920 Speaker 1: the coyote and the gray wolf. I'm looking at a 641 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,879 Speaker 1: picture of one right now. Yep, looks pretty wolfy. And 642 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 1: you know it's even though they call it a red wolf. 643 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 1: I mean it's kind of a mix of kind of 644 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:54,440 Speaker 1: reddish and grayish, maybe a little orangition there. Well, here's 645 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 1: the thing this surprised me. The only place where you 646 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:02,759 Speaker 1: can find I'm looking right now at the official Wildlife 647 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:09,360 Speaker 1: Federation site, the only place you can find confirmed wild 648 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:15,880 Speaker 1: red wolves in existence is North Carolina, where I'm from. 649 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:20,000 Speaker 1: I said, red wolves used to roam throughout the Eastern 650 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,320 Speaker 1: Seaboard from Pennsylvania to Florida and as far west as Texas, 651 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:28,000 Speaker 1: but today North Carolina's Albemarle Peninsula is home to the 652 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,560 Speaker 1: only confirmed wild red wolves in existence. But listen to 653 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:37,880 Speaker 1: this says that in uh, let's see here, in the 654 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:42,439 Speaker 1: last decade, they have declined so much from one point 655 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:49,719 Speaker 1: thirty down to fifteen wolves. There are only fifteen wolves 656 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:55,440 Speaker 1: left there. If you look at the chart of extinction, 657 00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 1: like I guess, conservation status status they are they are 658 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 1: one wrung before you start getting into the extinct territory. 659 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:10,440 Speaker 1: So that's I guess that's not good unless they eat people. 660 00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:15,680 Speaker 1: I doubt that. So I just thought that was fascinating. 661 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 1: Who would have I'd never even heard of wolves in 662 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 1: North Carolina. Well, okay, I guess before the clock has 663 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,440 Speaker 1: got us, uh, since I've had a little bit of 664 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,880 Speaker 1: a drinking theme going on here. You know what a 665 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 1: mich alata is. Some people call it a mich aalata, 666 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,480 Speaker 1: some people call it mik a lotta. They're very popular 667 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:41,240 Speaker 1: in the American Southwest. It's a refreshing, low alcohol drink, 668 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:47,920 Speaker 1: often called a Mexican bloody marry. It's made with tomato juice, 669 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:53,800 Speaker 1: some spices, usually some hot sauce and savory seas seasonings. 670 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:59,440 Speaker 1: But instead of vodka, it uses a cold Mexican style 671 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:04,440 Speaker 1: beer and they are absolutely delicious in my opinion, And 672 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:08,680 Speaker 1: usually they have some kind of salt or chili chili 673 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,879 Speaker 1: pepper kind of stuff around the rim. Michlatta's. If you've 674 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,520 Speaker 1: never had to meetch a lotta, go out there and 675 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,880 Speaker 1: find a good bartender somewhere and say make me a 676 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,840 Speaker 1: met you a lota, especially if you like, you know, 677 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:23,240 Speaker 1: bloody Mary's. I was always wondering where did this come from, though, 678 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 1: like again, go back to word origins. The most popular 679 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,640 Speaker 1: theory is that it was invented by a man named 680 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:35,000 Speaker 1: Mikhail Esper. He was a member of this club called 681 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:41,520 Speaker 1: the Club Deportivou Potosino in San Luis Potosi and Mexico 682 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:46,000 Speaker 1: in the nineteen sixties. It said that he liked to 683 00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,160 Speaker 1: have his beer with limes, salt, ice, and a straw, 684 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:53,040 Speaker 1: which resembled lemonade, and some club members began calling it 685 00:47:53,480 --> 00:48:01,200 Speaker 1: Michel's lemonade, which eventually became shortened to mikilada. Of course, 686 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:05,120 Speaker 1: they say it also may have been doubly named because 687 00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:13,400 Speaker 1: in Spanish michela helata means my ice cold beer, So 688 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,480 Speaker 1: I guess it may have worked on two fronts. But 689 00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:21,560 Speaker 1: I guess this guy, Michel espere uh, he was the 690 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:25,120 Speaker 1: inspiration for the Mikilada. Well, I hope you've enjoyed that 691 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 1: selection of mental manna. Kind of all over the place, 692 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 1: but also sort of fun to go through and check 693 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:32,759 Speaker 1: some of the things off I've been wanting to talk 694 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,720 Speaker 1: about for one reason or another. All Right, my friends, 695 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,239 Speaker 1: let's end the show on a positive note. Take a 696 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,520 Speaker 1: deep breath if you can close your eyes. Here is 697 00:48:41,560 --> 00:49:09,480 Speaker 1: the good fortune tone. That's it for this edition of 698 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:13,600 Speaker 1: the show. Follow me at Joshua P. Warren Plus visit 699 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:17,000 Speaker 1: Joshuapwarren dot com to sign up for my free e 700 00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:21,719 Speaker 1: newsletter to receive a free instant gift and check out 701 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:25,919 Speaker 1: the cool stuff in the Curiosity Shop all at Joshuapwarren 702 00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,560 Speaker 1: dot com. I have a fun one lined up for 703 00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:32,160 Speaker 1: you next time, I promise. So please tell all your 704 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:36,360 Speaker 1: friends to subscribe to this show and to always remember 705 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:41,239 Speaker 1: the Golden Rule. Thank you for listening, thank you for 706 00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:45,360 Speaker 1: your interest and support, Thank you for staying curious, and 707 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:50,280 Speaker 1: I will talk to you again soon. You've been listening 708 00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:54,800 Speaker 1: to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast 709 00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,840 Speaker 1: AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 710 00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,560 Speaker 2: Well, if you like this episode of Strange Things, wait 711 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,480 Speaker 2: till you hear the next one. Thank you for listening 712 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:19,480 Speaker 2: to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.