Speaker 1: Welco up to Reality with the King.
Speaker 2: It's me Carlos Kings, the King of Reality TV and
Speaker 2: one of the most sought after executive producers in reality
Speaker 2: television with over ten years a production experience. Twice a
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Speaker 2: we all.
Speaker 1: Don't have to agree on something.
Speaker 2: First things first, Let's bring on my boy, the boss
Speaker 2: in charge. Okay, he has five on it like Juici
Speaker 2: doora give it up for Dustin Ross, Word.
Speaker 3: Up, word up, word of Carlos. You are crazy? What's
Speaker 3: going on?
Speaker 4: All right? And job?
Speaker 3: Tell y'all doing Carlos, you look like money must be nice.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. To come back with a
Speaker 3: tan from a foreign location, throwing some door and hop
Speaker 3: on your life show. What a life, nigga? What a life?
Speaker 3: That's what's up. It's good to see.
Speaker 1: God is good. Shout out to Marvin sapp God is
Speaker 1: good and I do tied.
Speaker 3: We're gonna start calling Marvin side cash Dow. That's his
Speaker 3: new name, cash Dow because he said.
Speaker 1: Dollar but cash.
Speaker 3: Okay, there was a different focus there. So what's up, man,
Speaker 3: Let's talk about it.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about it. Gon talk about it, okay.
Speaker 2: Me and Dustin's favorite lady in the world is coming
Speaker 2: come next, the one, the only, the beautiful Claudia Jordan.
Speaker 5: Hello, Hello, Hello, got the sentis to laugh, Ready to
Speaker 5: get into some things and talk a little shit with
Speaker 5: my face. What's up, fellas thinks to having me back.
Speaker 5: I love being here with Y'all's so fun.
Speaker 1: We love having you. How was your weekend? Dusting the Claudia?
Speaker 5: I still ain't gotten them, but me and my ex
Speaker 5: one's the casino. We want a little bit of money.
Speaker 4: Y'all always hit at the casino.
Speaker 6: Lately we hit at the casino, but we ain't hit
Speaker 6: in the sack.
Speaker 1: But I've been did y'all kids that least?
Speaker 5: No, we haven't done anything since twenty twenty two. But
Speaker 5: he's my best friend, so he is. But I'm looking.
Speaker 5: I'm in the market, y'all. Listen, My birthday is April twelfth.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be in Vegas. Y'all are both invited to
Speaker 5: the weekend, but it's not gonna be that. It's gonna
Speaker 5: be the following weekend, eighteenth, nineteen twentieth. Y'all want to
Speaker 5: come out there and make a little trip. I will
Speaker 5: be staying at I'll be staying what I'm saying, But
Speaker 5: I guess should come on out, Carlos.
Speaker 6: I know you.
Speaker 5: I mean, it might be boring for you because you
Speaker 5: don't need a passport. I know you do international things.
Speaker 5: But if you, if you can, want to come slum
Speaker 5: with me and the girls, you know I would love you.
Speaker 1: You know I love the girls. You know I love
Speaker 1: the girls, and I love you.
Speaker 2: So keep your calendar and your pocketbook open, because I
Speaker 2: just be on the pocketbook.
Speaker 6: You're trying to come get me some I mean, I
Speaker 6: know you talk. I know you're a top. You trying
Speaker 6: to give me some birthday top d.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 5: If I got pregnant, I would definitely keep it in
Speaker 5: the child's deport Yes, I'm in a red state. Yes, Republicans, Uh,
Speaker 5: We're gonna have it, and I'm gonna run them.
Speaker 6: Motherfucking pockets.
Speaker 4: From God too. Y'all have a cute kid too.
Speaker 5: How am I gonna be fifty two talking about I
Speaker 5: missed my period?
Speaker 6: I got Who's the best guy in college? And get
Speaker 6: married to medicine.
Speaker 4: Now, y'all hook me up, Jackie, you got to go
Speaker 4: to jack.
Speaker 6: Jackie, hook me up.
Speaker 5: Let's see if I got one. I just need one
Speaker 5: egg left that all I need is one.
Speaker 6: I just need one.
Speaker 1: Would you have my baby? Yeah? Why not?
Speaker 5: You're fun, You're rich, Your waist is snatched, You've got
Speaker 5: good jeans. I'm worried about the geen I have.
Speaker 1: Let me talk about this waves look at it? So
Speaker 1: the wave is wasted. Yes, I've been trying to do. Wow,
Speaker 1: I don't have a BBL and I'm wearing underwear for
Speaker 1: those who did think I was working.
Speaker 3: Finally, let they ask no loas, look at the ass.
Speaker 4: Let the ask know.
Speaker 6: You've got a proper belly button.
Speaker 5: You don't have one of them ghetto bursts with the
Speaker 5: belly buttons all long.
Speaker 6: I dated something like that before.
Speaker 5: I said, damn, what the doctor said?
Speaker 6: Fucking with you?
Speaker 1: Huh?
Speaker 4: The keyhole?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 4: God, damn, damn, you're.
Speaker 1: Wats a small thing?
Speaker 6: Your wasted smaller than mine. I think.
Speaker 1: Let me see your rs. You have a good ways.
Speaker 6: No, it needs to be like two three inches smaller.
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of two to three inches bigger Dustin, can't
Speaker 2: you see girls?
Speaker 3: Can't I gotta I need a vertical camera for yours?
Speaker 5: Oh he said it, hang.
Speaker 3: Up, show my goddamn body off on it. Dem said
Speaker 3: it hang right now. You know.
Speaker 4: Twitter for that go to.
Speaker 6: Just as many having big dick energy.
Speaker 3: I know that, and we can back it up too.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't really think it's no secret. Everybody
Speaker 3: know what's u so oh mm hmm, I thank god.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: Can I tell you? Can I say something and you
Speaker 1: know what?
Speaker 4: You can text it to me?
Speaker 6: Was it about our prior conversation Carlos?
Speaker 3: Because I believe it's sustainability. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I believe it's sustainable.
Speaker 1: You text me that it was something somebody told me
Speaker 1: about you.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you can definitely tell me that what was
Speaker 3: going to say? No, so I felt I threw the
Speaker 3: safety out for us.
Speaker 2: Okay, somebody somebody told me this about your years ago.
Speaker 1: Let's just say I was.
Speaker 2: I was told that Dustin has to wear two pairs.
Speaker 1: Of underwear to support.
Speaker 3: That's my dog, I mean to me, you can never
Speaker 3: really personally, I never really concerned myself with the scuttle,
Speaker 3: but in these streets, you know what I'm saying, I
Speaker 3: just let the chatter chat, and then I just show
Speaker 3: and prove. I think that's it's it's I'm a person
Speaker 3: who believes and follow through.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I could give a damn
Speaker 4: about the conversation.
Speaker 3: I just want to put the period on the end
Speaker 3: of the sentence, or in some cases an exclamation point.
Speaker 4: So that's you know, that's just what it is.
Speaker 6: Ladies and gentlemen. That is what you call big dick energy.
Speaker 3: It's you know whatever. I'm an Arias Claudia. We're Aris.
Speaker 3: We got y'all know we have this this Aria shit
Speaker 3: in common.
Speaker 5: So I don't want to say big kochie energy because
Speaker 5: that's bad for a girl.
Speaker 6: But I'll say, why not.
Speaker 4: It's good, It's good. Ain't that good? That's good?
Speaker 3: No, it's tight right now, you want a big fat
Speaker 3: but well, this is going, This is like conversation.
Speaker 2: We'll figure it out.
Speaker 1: Y'all know your dms are already lived.
Speaker 2: But I think after that revelationship is going to be
Speaker 2: even more crazy.
Speaker 3: If my family didn't follow me and ship, I would
Speaker 3: be naked online. I wouldn't give a damn. But I
Speaker 3: just don't want like, I don't want that to be.
Speaker 3: I don't want that to be. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: The reason for me existing. But I would totally be
Speaker 3: more provocative online if I didn't have that concern. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. I'm close with my family. It's
Speaker 3: just it's weird if you do that.
Speaker 5: So you don't want your physical atopies to overshadow your
Speaker 5: your intellectual abilities and talents.
Speaker 6: It must be real big, then must no.
Speaker 3: I just I just you know, I love being a
Speaker 3: black man in America. You know what I'm saying. That
Speaker 3: has been afforded. You know what I'm saying, some of
Speaker 3: the rights of passage.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying into a certain club.
Speaker 3: Anyway, let's just let's just go rights.
Speaker 6: Listen to the language.
Speaker 5: You gotta talk them through it, don't you, Dustin. You
Speaker 5: got to talk them through it, like breathe.
Speaker 3: Well, I talked for a living love language. You know,
Speaker 3: I'm a very verbal person.
Speaker 2: May be like dust to take it out it's hurting, Okay,
Speaker 2: so let's move on, and he's like, once we get
Speaker 2: past the head, it's all right.
Speaker 4: You gotta be patient, that's all you need.
Speaker 2: I'm going to it's the cart something from CBS, so
Speaker 2: it'll be just okay, all.
Speaker 1: Right, So anyway it's gonna move on from that.
Speaker 4: Yes, downstairs now, I'm just like.
Speaker 5: Someone said, I'm Claudia is obsessed with d I am
Speaker 5: it's spring.
Speaker 6: I'm in heat I've had in a long time.
Speaker 5: It's like if you're hungry on a desert island, you
Speaker 5: of course you're gonna be hungry, but if you feast
Speaker 5: all the time, you ain't really tripping on steak.
Speaker 6: I ain't has stake in a while, so.
Speaker 3: That you're not supposed to be happy to have sex.
Speaker 3: Like that's weird to me when people get weird about that, Like,
Speaker 3: you should like sharing intimate time with a person and
Speaker 3: showing appreciation in that way.
Speaker 4: You should like that feels good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for somebody to show you that attention and for
Speaker 3: you to show somebody else that type of attention, it's
Speaker 3: a beautiful thing.
Speaker 1: I'm right.
Speaker 5: Please Bottle said it multiple times. I am definitely a
Speaker 5: power bottom.
Speaker 1: Well, at the only bottom of tonight's foundal. I want
Speaker 1: to make sure that we get.
Speaker 6: Who's the bottom besides me.
Speaker 4: Oh, motherfucker's just crazy, man.
Speaker 1: I No, let me tell you something. This is a
Speaker 1: true team. I'm love y'all so much.
Speaker 2: I was in Jamaica and I was with I was
Speaker 2: celebrating my friend's birthday. Shout out to Marsha it's her birthday.
Speaker 2: But long story short. They said, you seem distracted. I said,
Speaker 2: I'm planning for month and I lie tomorrow, I can't
Speaker 2: wait to go back.
Speaker 1: I love being in Jamaica. We had a great time,
Speaker 1: but I said, I got a plan for tomorrow.
Speaker 2: And I'm looking forward to seeing Dustin and Claudia South.
Speaker 3: We saw you getting live on that boat, uh in
Speaker 3: the left for trunks when you was dancing and throwing
Speaker 3: it on the on that that yacht in the middle
Speaker 3: of wherever you was at, you had on the leftard.
Speaker 3: I think what was Doti and Gabano or tom Ford?
Speaker 1: You know, a little tom Ford never heard anybody? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, built for tough.
Speaker 5: Se Hey, Carlos, I had an idea of Colos and
Speaker 5: dust In, both of you, I know.
Speaker 6: I invited you both to my birthday and Vegas.
Speaker 5: I know it's last minute, but if you don't come, Carlos,
Speaker 5: you're so wealthy and successful, I only think of be
Speaker 5: right that if we.
Speaker 6: Could just take a weekend and go to Miami.
Speaker 5: Maybe you can rent a boat and we could just
Speaker 5: have like a nice bonding experience, just hang out, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, and just like hang out with
Speaker 5: you outside of like these boxes.
Speaker 6: We should do that, can we?
Speaker 2: And we could do like it in person Monday Night Live,
Speaker 2: we should do that, you know.
Speaker 6: Heck, yeah, I missed Miami too. We have fun with
Speaker 6: them and is.
Speaker 1: This a reality?
Speaker 3: But the King Retreat, it's still would be outdoors. It
Speaker 3: could be like outdoors. It could be like up on
Speaker 3: the stage somewhere like the breeze and shit and motherfuckers
Speaker 3: outside having drinks and enjoying the show. Just sound good
Speaker 3: lights nighttime, light it up and.
Speaker 5: Bite all the rain drops to come through and then listen.
Speaker 5: This would be angry.
Speaker 6: I think this would be fantastic.
Speaker 5: And then you could film it, and then you could
Speaker 5: also put that on social media and monetize.
Speaker 6: It's some money making up Tounity. Plus we can meet
Speaker 6: our people, all.
Speaker 1: Right, all right, up to my assistant, all the all.
Speaker 2: The the Hey, let's look into a lot Miami show
Speaker 2: with me, Dustin and Claudia. So here we go. I
Speaker 2: wanted to kick things off first. We're gonna talk about Kenya.
Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about Peacha's epistols. We are also going
Speaker 2: to talk.
Speaker 3: About Keisha from New Jax City. Off this one, folks, Nino,
Speaker 3: let me smoke this for us. This was this was great,
Speaker 3: This was great. Great.
Speaker 6: The ghetto, the ghetto.
Speaker 2: We're gonna get to that later, guys, but I want
Speaker 2: to pick things off first.
Speaker 1: We have a couple of topics before that. Okay, I
Speaker 1: want to get to.
Speaker 2: Garsel and Bows from the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.
Speaker 1: Okay, so long story short.
Speaker 2: Garcel revealed that she quit the Real Housewives Beverly Hills.
Speaker 1: It was a shock to everybody.
Speaker 2: Bows and Erica Jane were on What Happens Live later
Speaker 2: that day. Bowse did not say anything out of term,
Speaker 2: but again, what is happening now is there's fans online
Speaker 2: who are trying to pit Garsel and Bows against each other,
Speaker 2: which I do not like. Bowse has never I watched
Speaker 2: the show, has never said anything out of line in
Speaker 2: regards to Garcel and vice versa.
Speaker 1: Right, I like for all of us to be fair.
Speaker 2: I don't know where this energy is coming from. One
Speaker 2: thing about the fandom of reality stars. And I've said
Speaker 2: this before. It's okay to stand for your favorite reality star.
Speaker 2: I love it, I love I love it, But don't
Speaker 2: make shit up just to hype up the person who
Speaker 2: you find so beloved, Okay, and don't attack The way
Speaker 2: Bowse is being attacked is so disgusting and I don't
Speaker 2: like it.
Speaker 1: I'm not here for it. But doesn't it Claudia, what
Speaker 1: are your thoughts? Number one?
Speaker 2: Of Garcel leaving and now we're seeing that they're trying
Speaker 2: to pit these two black.
Speaker 1: Women against each other.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I don't like that, of course, you know.
Speaker 4: I don't like that.
Speaker 3: I think it was intentional on the behalf of a
Speaker 3: lot of people to do just that and pit, so
Speaker 3: to speak, Garsel against Bowles. I hated that Garsea has
Speaker 3: meant a lot to black people for a very long time.
Speaker 3: She's fancy from the Jamie Fox Show. We've been in
Speaker 3: love with Garceel. I've known about bowls and her incredible
Speaker 3: at list, her resume and her accolades in the marketing world.
Speaker 3: I used to work in experienceial marketing, so I was
Speaker 3: very familiar with her career and what she's done. And
Speaker 3: they're very different women, and they could coexist just fine
Speaker 3: on that show without any conflict. And in fact, it
Speaker 3: would have been great to see that on the show
Speaker 3: instead of been being put into separate friendship groups and
Speaker 3: set up for conflict.
Speaker 4: Listen.
Speaker 3: I was happy to one of those people that was
Speaker 3: happy to see garcel be casted on the Househives of
Speaker 3: Beverly Hills. I supported her, watch her every season she
Speaker 3: was on the show. But Garcelle never was a person
Speaker 3: who was witty enough or quick enough at the mouth to.
Speaker 4: Have some of the positions that she.
Speaker 3: Had in that group when it came to group dynamics
Speaker 3: and relationships within the group. Anytime she was challenged by
Speaker 3: one of the other ladies, she always fell ran out
Speaker 3: of air, fell flat right.
Speaker 4: Then.
Speaker 3: She never really backed up her what it is that
Speaker 3: she had to say, and oftentimes she would be right
Speaker 3: about whatever the issue was. So it was frustrating for
Speaker 3: me to watch. I'm sure it was frustrating for her
Speaker 3: to participate in. I hate to see her go. But
Speaker 3: I love Bows on this show and I love seeing
Speaker 3: her shine. So I just think it's fucked up that
Speaker 3: they could not figure out a way to run the
Speaker 3: show together, because that's what I would have liked to see.
Speaker 1: Bengal Claudia, what do you think every.
Speaker 5: Reality So I feel like if there's like a mostly
Speaker 5: white cast and there's two black women, it's gonna happen.
Speaker 5: They did it on Celebrity Apprentice, they do it on
Speaker 5: a lot of other shows, and they just feel like,
Speaker 5: and unfortunately, unfortunately, black women usually bring the fire to
Speaker 5: the boring ass friend friend circles, and that's.
Speaker 6: Usually what it is. I think I mentioned it before
Speaker 6: in the show.
Speaker 5: Actresses have a more more of a struggle on these
Speaker 5: reality shows than people that are not actresses. They are
Speaker 5: too much in their head to really flourish with reading
Speaker 5: someone down, like cutting something off where you say something
Speaker 5: that you cannot come back from, and you kind of
Speaker 5: need that viciousness to be on one of these reality shows.
Speaker 5: You kind of have to not care about what happens
Speaker 5: next if you really want to like go to hotel,
Speaker 5: because you're limited, right, You're too much Like if I
Speaker 5: say that Disney might not rock with me.
Speaker 6: Oh if I say that, I might not get a
Speaker 6: job with CBS.
Speaker 5: And I think actresses like a Garcel, you know, they
Speaker 5: they're like really like I want to keep a classy
Speaker 5: and I like Garcel. I know some people say they
Speaker 5: don't like her, that maybe they don't mess her in
Speaker 5: Black Hollywood. I like her And I had text someone
Speaker 5: from That's Friends with Bows and asked like, what's good
Speaker 5: and the word I got back And I'm trying not to.
Speaker 5: I'm trying to make it where it's very vague, where
Speaker 5: I'm not throwing anyone on the bus.
Speaker 6: But they said that she was the worst.
Speaker 5: I'm like the worth how like I didn't know that,
Speaker 5: Like I've never seen that. I do see some of
Speaker 5: the people in the comments saying that bo sat there
Speaker 5: when you know, when ourselves getting read down.
Speaker 6: I don't know that for a fact.
Speaker 5: I mean, are you supposed to jump in when it's
Speaker 5: a bunch of white girls and it's just two sisters.
Speaker 6: I would like to do that.
Speaker 5: So I don't really know the goings on between them,
Speaker 5: you know, because Bose kept it pretty classy on Watch
Speaker 5: What Happens Live, I thought she didn't really give you money, right,
Speaker 5: you have to really be paying attention like she just was,
Speaker 5: like she kept it very like I'm not going to
Speaker 5: trash her, and she didn't. And yet now bos is
Speaker 5: getting dragged now for even that, and I don't think
Speaker 5: that's right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think it's what you said. Listen.
Speaker 2: It's one of those things where you're damned if you
Speaker 2: do and you're damned if you don't. I think Bull's
Speaker 2: being somebody who was in corporate America for over, you know,
Speaker 2: two decades, understood the assignment in terms of I'm just
Speaker 2: gonna sit there eat my food, you know.
Speaker 1: Because if I if I, if I say.
Speaker 2: Something, it's sort of like I'm I'm with this person
Speaker 2: against that person. And I think she chose what I
Speaker 2: would have done. I would have sat there and said,
Speaker 2: you know nothing either. Now a lot of people are
Speaker 2: making assumptions of what is happening.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, what has happened?
Speaker 2: Excuse me on the two part reunion that we'll see
Speaker 2: on Tuesday.
Speaker 1: But again, these are assumptions.
Speaker 2: These are assumptions, And if you want to read other
Speaker 2: people as relates to Garseil's experience, that's fine. Garcel, in
Speaker 2: her statement of leaving never once mentioned her disdain for
Speaker 2: the cast she watched. I thought Garcel gave a great
Speaker 2: graceful exit. She thanked the network, She thanked Andy Cohen,
Speaker 2: she thanked all the parties involved, and said that Andy
Speaker 2: said to her, the door's always open for you to return.
Speaker 2: So again, I just don't understand why the fans feel
Speaker 2: the need to make it something negative, when, in Garseil's defense,
Speaker 2: her statement was a negative.
Speaker 5: The one thing I can say, though, if I have
Speaker 5: to really keep it a buck, is.
Speaker 6: You can't deny that.
Speaker 5: When they did ask bowse and Erica Jane about Garcela leaving,
Speaker 5: they both were silent, with one of those silence where
Speaker 5: it means something when someone says.
Speaker 6: How do you feel about can you get kicked up?
Speaker 1: The show?
Speaker 6: And if I sat there and I was like, you
Speaker 6: would know that I'm with it, like I'm okay.
Speaker 2: But I'll say this though, I'll say this, and this
Speaker 2: is something that I talked about on my audio podcast.
Speaker 2: We don't know the relationship that Garcel and Bose had
Speaker 2: in real life, right. I agree with you, Claudia, and
Speaker 2: I said it's on my podcast. Me and Dustin are
Speaker 2: friends in real life because I reach out to Dustin.
Speaker 2: I saw this black man doing content, I said, oh
Speaker 2: my gosh, you're amazing, and I want to make sure
Speaker 2: that you know who I am, and vice versa. Same
Speaker 2: thing with Justice in Vester Saint David Funky's When I
Speaker 2: see black gay men doing this, Caramo, you know who
Speaker 2: I cast them on the next fifteen. I like to
Speaker 2: get people opportunities who look like me, right, But there's
Speaker 2: very small in between cases to where all black folks
Speaker 2: do not get along, and that's okay, it's okay, it's
Speaker 2: okay if they and again I'm not saying Boz and
Speaker 2: Garcel do not get along. What I'm saying is there
Speaker 2: could be Chaclaudia's point she didn't say my girl left.
Speaker 2: But if I'm being completely honest, I didn't see a
Speaker 2: friendship on that show. I saw two black women respecting
Speaker 2: each other's spaces, and that was that.
Speaker 1: We'll see what happened at the.
Speaker 2: Reunion, but perhaps in real life outside the show, they
Speaker 2: weren't the closest.
Speaker 3: Which is fine, right, They don't even have to be
Speaker 3: best friendships because they're the two black women on their cast.
Speaker 3: I think that a lot of this is being fueled
Speaker 3: by people that watch their interviews and watch the show.
Speaker 3: Who are taking what they say or don't say and
Speaker 3: then creating a determination based on that of how that
Speaker 3: person must feel. Been garcil saying I don't fuck with bowls,
Speaker 3: or Bowls saying fuck that bitch, Garsel, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. Where we then know what's up, It's been
Speaker 3: fans saying things like, well, she was silent, so we
Speaker 3: know that that must mean something is up, which is
Speaker 3: true because it could have been very easy for her
Speaker 3: to say yo, peace out to Garcils. She was the
Speaker 3: first black woman on this show. I appreciate her opening
Speaker 3: that door and holding it open for me, and I
Speaker 3: wish we could have been closer. But you know, I
Speaker 3: hate to see her go. She could have responded in
Speaker 3: a way that did not suggest tension or suggests some
Speaker 3: sort of breakdown in their relationship, and the fact that
Speaker 3: she did not may be telling, but I think it's lame.
Speaker 4: That just fine to just.
Speaker 3: Look for a way to see a crack in their
Speaker 3: relationship or make these two black ladies go at it
Speaker 3: on this show.
Speaker 4: I just think that's lamme.
Speaker 5: Also, probably her sitting next to Erica Jane, who's been
Speaker 5: shady to people, right, it seems like she's kind of
Speaker 5: in a more an alliance or kind of down with
Speaker 5: her how her takes, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 5: it kind of you.
Speaker 3: Kind of get just crazy though, because I remember there
Speaker 3: was a scene on Beverly Hills where Sudden, Garcel and
Speaker 3: Air had gone to a restaurant I think it was,
Speaker 3: and they had it was the most fun I had
Speaker 3: ever seen our cell Sutton was acting young. I was like, Yo,
Speaker 3: this is like it was a totally different view on
Speaker 3: these women. And I wish that that could have been nurtured,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. But that show is so
Speaker 3: segmented and the clicks that it's hard for the cast
Speaker 3: to just be a cast, which is one of the
Speaker 3: things I actually love about this season of Atlanta because
Speaker 3: it's not too clickish yet everybody's still kind of kicking
Speaker 3: it right now.
Speaker 5: Yes, I say, don't you think that you're damn if
Speaker 5: you deal your damn if you don't like any shows.
Speaker 5: And I've been on like if there's another black girl
Speaker 5: amongst a bunch of white girls, I almost feel obligated
Speaker 5: and I want to kind of clozy up to the
Speaker 5: black woman, like when I was on dealing O deal.
Speaker 5: I remember when Meghan Marko came through. I was like,
Speaker 5: I thank you black. I'm like, all right, let me
Speaker 5: go welcome her.
Speaker 4: Come here.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I was like, hey, let me go ahead and school you. Okay,
Speaker 5: go to that hairdresser.
Speaker 6: Don't use that one. That one's gonna spray water in
Speaker 6: your hair and kind of show you the ropes.
Speaker 5: I feel like like that's like just our culture to
Speaker 5: be like that, to look up for. Don't like, hey,
Speaker 5: let me holler at you real quick. You know how
Speaker 5: I get around here and you'd have some caaraderie out
Speaker 5: the gate. But then if you don't, if you don't
Speaker 5: like someone based on other things, you're also vilified, like
Speaker 5: you're closing up to the white girls.
Speaker 6: So again it's like you're damn if you do, damn
Speaker 6: if you don't.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: My thing is how we know they didn't have that camaraderie.
Speaker 3: We never saw them argue. We never saw them just
Speaker 3: straight up tear each other up on the show. They
Speaker 3: could have very well had a moment. I've had jobs.
Speaker 3: My last corporate job, I'm not gonna say what company
Speaker 3: was for, but it was working for in the marketing, okay,
Speaker 3: and I looked at on my first day. I looked
Speaker 3: at this guy that was on the staff that was
Speaker 3: obviously black, and I thought he was gay. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. If he's watching this, he's gonna laugh
Speaker 3: because I call him gay. But I pulled him to
Speaker 3: the back. We went in the back and shit, and
Speaker 3: I was like, yo, me and you, black and gay,
Speaker 3: we're gonna look out for each other. We gotta look
Speaker 3: out for each other straight up. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I told him that, And to this day, that's my dog.
Speaker 3: He was at my comedy shows Monday last Monday. We
Speaker 3: are still close friends years after we both left that job.
Speaker 3: So like, there is something to be said for the
Speaker 3: sense of community. You know what I'm saying, that you
Speaker 3: have to sustain by creating no sort of relationships.
Speaker 4: So I don't know he.
Speaker 6: Was he not gay?
Speaker 4: He gays?
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, seven days gay now just the weekends.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But no, I agree with everything you are saying.
Speaker 1: And you know, it's one of those things.
Speaker 2: Where when you are the only black person or the
Speaker 2: only personal color in a predominantly white spaces. The three
Speaker 2: of us on this has been in that same situation,
Speaker 2: and the three of us, I know for a fact,
Speaker 2: has always reached out our hand to help out our
Speaker 2: fellow brother or sister in need, or just to say like,
Speaker 2: we know what it is, because there's nothing like being
Speaker 2: a predominantly white space.
Speaker 1: You see a black person walk in and y'all.
Speaker 2: Give each other look like yeah, you know, and again
Speaker 2: we don't know.
Speaker 1: We I guess we'll find out.
Speaker 2: But what I will say is to the ourselves fans
Speaker 2: who are attacking bulls with no real receipts, maybe that
Speaker 2: energy can be saved when y'all attack people online, When
Speaker 2: y'all attack reality starts who are black and you're black.
Speaker 2: At one point is yeah, So if you guys think
Speaker 2: guard Sell and Bows should be friendly towards each other
Speaker 2: because they're both black and white spaces, why do y'all
Speaker 2: feel the need to attack black reality stars, black reality producers,
Speaker 2: black content creators online. So you're mad that Bows didn't
Speaker 2: say anything, but your response is that is to attack
Speaker 2: a black woman.
Speaker 1: I'm confused.
Speaker 3: Everybody like, talk your shit, but to me, it's the
Speaker 3: difference between talking your shit, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: having an opinion and attacking somebody like those are two
Speaker 3: different things. I think everybody should express themselves online. That's
Speaker 3: what the comment section is for. But there's a difference
Speaker 3: when you take your opinion and then use it as
Speaker 3: an ex excuse to attack and be harmful to somebody.
Speaker 3: Niggas gott to chill out with that shit. That's again night.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, So team Garcel and team Bows, and I'm
Speaker 2: sad that Garcel left.
Speaker 1: Garcella is going to be just fine.
Speaker 2: She was fine before Housewives and she'll be fine after.
Speaker 2: She is a legend in this in this business, and
Speaker 2: I'm happy that she used the vehicle properly. And I'm
Speaker 2: looking forward to seeing how Bows continues to run a
Speaker 2: tight ship on that show because she gets these girls
Speaker 2: together and I love seeing her.
Speaker 4: Child.
Speaker 2: We are just getting started. This is reality with the King,
Speaker 2: and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: So I want to move on to Marry to Medicine.
Speaker 2: So Dustin Ross, you are to me the Married to
Speaker 2: Medicine mastro, So explain to Claudia Jordan I what happened
Speaker 2: Part two reunion. We did see a clip that I
Speaker 2: do want us to address collectively, Doctor Simone and Quad
Speaker 2: getting into it backstage but Dustin, give us a highlights
Speaker 2: of what happened to Maria to medicine, because baby, this
Speaker 2: reunion's on fire.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so, I mean, as per usual, on the reunion stage,
Speaker 3: you saw a Quiet Web virtually dribbling the basketball through
Speaker 3: her legs of her dress and hitting nothing but ned
Speaker 3: threes the whole time she was on that reunion stage,
Speaker 3: tearing Letitia lunch for it up, being agreeable and open
Speaker 3: to resolve with the other women on the cast, even
Speaker 3: in the face of pure insanity. Because doctor Simone completely
Speaker 3: lost control. I think that dress had like wrapped up.
Speaker 3: She turned around and talked to Quid when it was backstage,
Speaker 3: and her rest it like this, and she just started
Speaker 3: going off like losing it. And so next thing we knew,
Speaker 3: she was cussing Quiet out, and Quiet was responding to that.
Speaker 4: But all jokes are sorry.
Speaker 3: Simone's unpredictable, erratic nature has gotten old. It's eleven seasons
Speaker 3: and we're approaching the twelfth season and watching her literally
Speaker 3: act a fool on television has gotten old. And this
Speaker 3: is coming from someone who has always loved Simone and
Speaker 3: Cecil on that show. I love how much they do
Speaker 3: care about their children. You know, whatever their life looks like,
Speaker 3: I like it. I like seeing this black doctor buy
Speaker 3: a house for her kids and drive a you know,
Speaker 3: nice car and thrive. I like seeing that. But Simone
Speaker 3: does not know how to engage with these women on
Speaker 3: a social level. I think she spent the majority of
Speaker 3: her young adult life studying and pursuing her career, and
Speaker 3: then once she got into the hospital, she was married,
Speaker 3: she had children. I don't think she ever had time
Speaker 3: to be like a social person. She struggles with connecting
Speaker 3: with these ladies, and sometimes her reactions seem a little
Speaker 3: misaligned or out of place. And that's what I saw
Speaker 3: when they were backstage. There's a lot more to be said.
Speaker 3: Especially the conversation between the men was incredible. We saw
Speaker 3: Heavenly's husband, Damon get in Greg Lunsford's ass when they
Speaker 3: were all sitting out there, and that was great to
Speaker 3: see because Damon stood on what he was saying and
Speaker 3: he was very clear, very focused and what he was
Speaker 3: saying and the points that he was making. And we
Speaker 3: saw that no matter what kind of passive aggressive actions
Speaker 3: that doctor g took, Damon's doctor, Damon kyn stayed on message.
Speaker 3: He stayed focused with what he had to say, and
Speaker 3: then was also open to resolve, which I think is
Speaker 3: a very important part of what happens on the reunion stage.
Speaker 3: You got to be open to resolve if the opportunity
Speaker 3: is there, and he was, so that shit was good.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Basically, I say all that
Speaker 3: to say, QUI cuts someone out some own lass control.
Speaker 3: Damon went off on Doctor G and embarrassed him and
Speaker 3: that was good. Meanwhile, Quad's boyfriend was throwing assists the
Speaker 3: whole time, like, well, y'all can't say that to him
Speaker 3: because we all gonna say to him, what about you?
Speaker 3: He was doing shit like that. So they were a
Speaker 3: good pairing. It was a good reunion. It was a
Speaker 3: good part too.
Speaker 6: Who I have.
Speaker 5: I guess I gotta start watching that show because they
Speaker 5: was wilding the hell out. But I will say wish
Speaker 5: the ladies could take a page of the Fellaw's book
Speaker 5: the way they were resolving things, like they were able
Speaker 5: to get spicy, but still able to like kind of
Speaker 5: you know, speak and not just just get out of control.
Speaker 5: I say this all the time, whoever loses control their
Speaker 5: emotions loses the argument, and that's that's that's communications. One
Speaker 5: on one, you lose control of your emotions. The other
Speaker 5: person has one. You can't think clearly. You say wild stuff,
Speaker 5: you say stuff you regret. You're not clear with your messaging,
Speaker 5: you get off topic, you cause secondary arguments, you know,
Speaker 5: like you gotta stay in control. And and doctor Simone
Speaker 5: was not, and she was. She came up very like.
Speaker 5: I was like, girls, are you okay?
Speaker 4: Like it was just it came out of nowhere. Right,
Speaker 4: It's a lot.
Speaker 6: I'm like, what is the backstay? Why they sold? Why
Speaker 6: she's so mad that? It was very very and again, yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Want to touch on that. I'm a huge maritime medicine fan.
Speaker 2: I've always said the best show on Bravo that people
Speaker 2: aren't watching. I said that like two years ago, and
Speaker 2: I'm happy that people are now getting into it and
Speaker 2: getting married to medicine is very much needed and well deserved.
Speaker 1: Flowers.
Speaker 2: I want to address Quad and Simoe, two women I love.
Speaker 2: I want to I want to have a real conversation
Speaker 2: when it comes to Quad. And I said this on
Speaker 2: my interview with her, and I said this to my
Speaker 2: interview with doctor Simo and Toya.
Speaker 1: Quad was the breakout star of that show.
Speaker 2: Because I want to give Claudia a history in terms
Speaker 2: of like the the sort of like passionate fuck you bit.
Speaker 2: You know, it was like it was some stuff that
Speaker 2: you said to your friend, you know, for a couple
Speaker 2: of years and because you love that that cast, that
Speaker 2: cast love each other.
Speaker 1: You don't see it all the time, but they have.
Speaker 2: They do have this very rich history because Claudia, this
Speaker 2: this season is season eleven, right, yeah, justice Claudia. It's
Speaker 2: the same girls for eleven season straight.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's yeah.
Speaker 2: You probably said like they have this unnatural bond that
Speaker 2: most reality shows mom sim of women don't have because
Speaker 2: Housewives is more so like you and you out whatever.
Speaker 2: They've had the same cast for eleven years. Damn near
Speaker 2: Quad was a breakout star. It is what it is.
Speaker 2: It is what it is.
Speaker 1: I'm not here to talk about it anymore. I did my.
Speaker 2: Podcast fine Now. Quad definitely had a lot of opportunities.
Speaker 2: She was hosting Sister Circle, which was a TV was
Speaker 2: TV one rape a TV one show. Now, I said
Speaker 2: it's a Quad to her faith and I said it's
Speaker 2: the Quad my interview. When Quad got th opportunities, it
Speaker 2: did appear that she wasn't as close to the remaining
Speaker 2: cast anymore, and I could see I'm being real. Y'all
Speaker 2: know I love Quad, and I said, it's a Quad already,
Speaker 2: so ain't no t It did appear based on what
Speaker 2: I saw that Quad was given the girls.
Speaker 1: Her ass kiss it did it?
Speaker 4: Did?
Speaker 1: It did appear that way?
Speaker 2: And that's what Quad said, Like Carlos calls me and
Speaker 2: tells me the truth about how I act.
Speaker 1: Simon is not over it, Simone.
Speaker 2: Simone has a heart on for Quad, because what Simon
Speaker 2: is searching for is for Quad to get on her knees.
Speaker 1: Saying I am sorry.
Speaker 2: And although Quad has apologized, Quad has apologized Claudia so
Speaker 2: many times more than once to me is too many times.
Speaker 4: Child.
Speaker 2: We watched Quad apologize at the reunion and we saw
Speaker 2: them hug it out. I think at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, Simone refuses to give Quad another chance because
Speaker 2: in Simone's mind and this is this is how I
Speaker 2: think she feels. I think Simone feels like Quad still
Speaker 2: thinks she's better than the show.
Speaker 1: I don't think that.
Speaker 2: I think Quad has humbled herself and I think I
Speaker 2: think end of the day, and y'all can say what
Speaker 2: I want, I don't care y'all brought on this woman's
Speaker 2: ex husband that she had and quads words not mine,
Speaker 2: that she had a very difficult marriage.
Speaker 1: I'll just say those words, a very difficult marriage.
Speaker 2: It is hard for a woman to re enter a
Speaker 2: space of friendship knowing that you guys did that, heavenly
Speaker 2: apologized their quality and Heavenly are fine. I think Simone
Speaker 2: refuses to do it because I think, deep down inside
Speaker 2: she still has resentment for Quad, for a quad what
Speaker 2: she feels quas behavioral.
Speaker 3: And she told on herself backstage because when doctor Simone
Speaker 3: was saying, well, doctor Simone interjected herself into the conversation saying,
Speaker 3: you know, well, QUI wasn't around when when they started
Speaker 3: coming around, she wasn't around us, And she started offering
Speaker 3: up these reasons, and then she flat out hold on
Speaker 3: herself and she said, we wasn't we fucking with the
Speaker 3: people that fuck with us, So we wasn't fucking with
Speaker 3: you and we was fucking with them because we wasn't
Speaker 3: fucking with you. She told on herself it was one
Speaker 3: hundred percent intentional. And my thing is they could heal
Speaker 3: past that if she would just say yes, I was
Speaker 3: hurt by what you did, so I purposely befriended them
Speaker 3: because I wanted to hurt you back. That makes it
Speaker 3: all clear, But once you start not saying that, it
Speaker 3: gets kind of hard to move, you know what I'm
Speaker 3: saying With a real clear conscience behind it, or a
Speaker 3: clean slate, I should say. So, I don't know, it
Speaker 3: was weird to me. Qua is not perfect, but they
Speaker 3: was wrong as hell for that. And no matter what
Speaker 3: you got to say about who your favorites are on
Speaker 3: that show, anybody that sat through a year of their
Speaker 3: ex's new relationship not only being flounded in your face,
Speaker 3: but then you being outed from the group, come on,
Speaker 3: you're gonna have something to say when it's your turn
Speaker 3: to hold the mic. And so I don't understand why
Speaker 3: everybody's so surprised about that, but oh the fuck. Well,
Speaker 3: I wasn't mad at Quiet at all, and I wanted
Speaker 3: her to get them some more.
Speaker 4: I was happy to see it.
Speaker 5: So it sounds like there was some jealousy and Quagett
Speaker 5: all the opportunities and was a breakout star and then
Speaker 5: a lot of people liked her, so there was some
Speaker 5: jealousy from that, and then the get back was also
Speaker 5: when they brought in her ex boy husband when you
Speaker 5: know she didn't have a good relationship with of course
Speaker 5: it's going to make anyone feel a way you already
Speaker 5: have some some issues there. Of course you're not gonna
Speaker 5: trust that. I wouldn't trust that, Like, how did y'all
Speaker 5: even contact him? How did y'all how did this even happen?
Speaker 5: When you got my ex at it's one thing you
Speaker 5: broke up with someone, it's cool if it ain't cool too,
Speaker 5: And I got to see that every week. Of course
Speaker 5: you're gonna it's not gonna be easy to get back
Speaker 5: recover from that.
Speaker 2: And my limited knowledge, yeah no, but I think that's
Speaker 2: why it was that because for me, it was the
Speaker 2: deepness of the baritone Verry White, Uh fuck you like.
Speaker 1: It came from And I was like, well, damn, why
Speaker 1: you know it was.
Speaker 2: That ship was like but I wanted to Claudia up
Speaker 2: to under stair, Like why it got that severe? It
Speaker 2: was sort of like like the last time I heard
Speaker 2: that was when Nini and Kenya had an argument on
Speaker 2: a line of Housewives.
Speaker 1: I think they were in were they in Greeted Season twelve?
Speaker 3: Oh No, Toronto in the hotel in season twelve.
Speaker 2: Where it was they were arguing for Cynthia, Yes, that
Speaker 2: was it was. Eva was on that season. Rain draws
Speaker 2: with that season twelve. Were they in Toronto or Tokyo
Speaker 2: or something?
Speaker 4: They were They were in Toronto in that hotel.
Speaker 2: Okay, But Claudia, if you ever saw the clip Kenya
Speaker 2: and Nini did this to each other.
Speaker 1: Fuck you bitch on fuck you bit, fuck you bitch.
Speaker 2: But again, Kenya Nini have history, so that's why you
Speaker 2: thought from the depths of their soul the argument.
Speaker 1: So that's why, Simone.
Speaker 6: I love hearing your deep top voice.
Speaker 2: Well, it's a certain someone who gets to hear that
Speaker 2: every Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
Speaker 1: And sometimes on a Thursday. Depends on the work Carlos
Speaker 1: King has to do.
Speaker 2: But on Mondays, I belonged to Dustin and Claudia, y'all
Speaker 2: my special friends.
Speaker 4: Carlo.
Speaker 6: Yeah, trying not to tease you as much this week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so look at how happy he is.
Speaker 6: I love when someone's like newly in love. I love
Speaker 6: it so cute.
Speaker 1: Who said I was in love and lust?
Speaker 6: Love? Whatever?
Speaker 2: Claudia, I am living life and that is that, okay.
Speaker 2: Speaking of Atlanta Housewives, let's get into the latest episode
Speaker 2: of The Real House Wats of Atlanta, Season sixteen, episode four.
Speaker 1: Let's just get right into it. Listen.
Speaker 2: I know y'all want us to recap the whole episode.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna do a child. I enjoyed the episode.
Speaker 2: I want to start by saying that I did enjoy
Speaker 2: the entire episode.
Speaker 1: Me too, I really really like Angela Oakley.
Speaker 4: Me too, Me too? Me too, me too.
Speaker 1: I like Angela Oakley a lot.
Speaker 2: And Kelly, Kelly, you are still my number one favorite
Speaker 2: nubie as of episode four, but you're only as good
Speaker 2: as your last episode, Kelly, I love you, baby. Angela's
Speaker 2: coming for your spot. I'm gonna tell you. I like
Speaker 2: by Angela Oakley. She's a natural. She's She's subtle with
Speaker 2: her shade and subtle with her comedy.
Speaker 1: She fits right in. I enjoyed the fact.
Speaker 2: That she was open about her mother getting involved in
Speaker 2: her marriage because she was too comfortable. I love that honesty,
Speaker 2: and I love the fact that she she just seems
Speaker 2: to not And I'm going someplace where I say this.
Speaker 2: We'll get into the next topic of this episode. Angela
Speaker 2: Oakley is not looking for a moment and that's why
Speaker 2: I like it.
Speaker 1: I heard, dusn't Claudia your thoughts.
Speaker 6: I agree. I like listen when you can be vulnerable.
Speaker 5: Like I said, my main frustration with reality TV is
Speaker 5: the being pretentious, lying, creating a false narrative, a false lifestyle,
Speaker 5: a false life. She has a receipts, got the NBA legend, husband,
Speaker 5: she's got the you know.
Speaker 6: And then also she's not just trying to be there
Speaker 6: just to like be fabulous.
Speaker 5: And I got this going on. I got that going on.
Speaker 5: Lying about things.
Speaker 6: It is what it is.
Speaker 5: And to have a you know, a difficult conversation about
Speaker 5: real family stuff, that's hard to do because after the
Speaker 5: cameras go off and y'all get your little life from
Speaker 5: being on TV watching the episode, they gotta really deal
Speaker 5: with the backlash of that.
Speaker 6: So that was actually a real conversation. I like that
Speaker 6: about her. I like I like that she she's she's
Speaker 6: she's good for the show. And at first I thought
Speaker 6: I ain't gonna lie. She was like, I was like, eh,
Speaker 6: kind of boring.
Speaker 5: I thought maybe he was on an outshiner her husband
Speaker 5: because he comes in. He liked the kind of twenty
Speaker 5: twenty five Peter Thomas like say, some shit stirred up.
Speaker 6: Don't give a fuck you know what I mean? Stand
Speaker 6: on what he say, But I really do like her.
Speaker 6: This episode was good.
Speaker 5: There was You're starting to definitely see cracks and some
Speaker 5: friendships Porscha and Shamia. Porscha definitely showed how jealous she
Speaker 5: was of Shamiah getting attention for her good singing, and
Speaker 5: I thought that was like a moment that, like, you know,
Speaker 5: the cameras a on your girlfriend unless was poorly it
Speaker 5: was added to make you look like that, acting like
Speaker 5: is that your voice?
Speaker 6: Is that really you? Is that really you?
Speaker 5: And being confused, fake confusion about it. That wasn't a
Speaker 5: good look for you if that's your girl. Up until now,
Speaker 5: we've seen no reason for you to turn on Smia,
Speaker 5: so why.
Speaker 6: Would you do that to her right now?
Speaker 5: I just thought that was really fucked up to be
Speaker 5: like that, like, you know, everyone else is like happier
Speaker 5: for your best friend.
Speaker 6: Than you are. And that's one thing I did not
Speaker 6: like about that episode.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with Claudia on this one because I felt
Speaker 3: like it was reminiscent of when Nini and Cynthia had
Speaker 3: that disagreement when they were in Savannah on The Housewives
Speaker 3: and Nini was telling Cynthia she was letting her daughter
Speaker 3: be too fast or whatever, and it made Cynthia get
Speaker 3: emotional and she started crying, and Nini was really just
Speaker 3: oblivious to the emotional damage she had done in that moment,
Speaker 3: and it kind of reminded me of that. I hate
Speaker 3: to see people take dominance over another one of their
Speaker 3: friends emotionally like that.
Speaker 4: I don't think that's cool.
Speaker 3: So I didn't really like seeing Porsche ask them weird
Speaker 3: ass questions when Shamia was playing her song or just
Speaker 3: interrupt people listening to the song for whatever her reasons for.
Speaker 3: I didn't like that, But overall, I'm enjoying this season.
Speaker 3: I am thoroughly enjoying the season of the Real Housewives
Speaker 3: of Atlanta. Kelly, I think, is a standout new housewife.
Speaker 3: She has a great personality, and her and Angela seem
Speaker 3: to really understand the space. They understand how to be
Speaker 3: housewives in their own way. Angela is under a little
Speaker 3: bit more understated, but just as as as impactful.
Speaker 4: She's always smiling. I have not seen her yet not.
Speaker 3: Smile since she's been on the show, even when she
Speaker 3: was having her back and forth with Smia. She had
Speaker 3: a smile on her face the whole time. It makes
Speaker 3: it easier to digest. Right, we need to talk about
Speaker 3: Kenya and Britt.
Speaker 6: Oh, can I just say something real quick?
Speaker 5: I also really enjoyed the Kumbaya moment with the olive branch.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we need to see some of that.
Speaker 5: I can't just always be on ten and this episode
Speaker 5: maybe not enjoy Britt as much as I've enjoyed her
Speaker 5: in other episodes.
Speaker 6: I know we don't get into that, but I have
Speaker 6: definite thoughts on that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I want to.
Speaker 2: I want to get into Okay, there's two things before
Speaker 2: we get into Kenya and Brit of it all. I
Speaker 2: want to get into Kenya scene with Kelly. Listen, everyone
Speaker 2: knows I'm friends with Kenya, right, and so is Claudia
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 1: Kenya isn't the most.
Speaker 2: She doesn't wear her heart in her sleeve, and there's
Speaker 2: conversations Kenya has having me personally that I do tell
Speaker 2: her sometimes like oh my god, you should I let
Speaker 2: the world know that, you know, but it doesn't. Kenya
Speaker 2: is very and listen, when we learned about her childhood
Speaker 2: and her mom, we all had a greater understanding of
Speaker 2: why Kenya is a is a hard tough chick from Detroit.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: I was surprised Kenya mentioned on camera how much she
Speaker 2: gave to build this hair spa and her feeling concerned
Speaker 2: about the investment, because that's something that me and Kenya
Speaker 2: spoke about privately, and she cried to me privately. So
Speaker 2: I'm bringing this up because Kenya and Claudia know have
Speaker 2: known Kingya for years.
Speaker 1: Kenya ain't no crier, right.
Speaker 2: So the reason why I like Kelly a lot too
Speaker 2: is because Kenya must have felt so comfortable around Kelly's
Speaker 2: authenticity and her natural way of talking about her experience
Speaker 2: with her husband that made ken you relate to Mark.
Speaker 1: I was? I was.
Speaker 2: I was pleasantly surprised that Kenya allowed the world to
Speaker 2: see what I get to see behind closed doors because
Speaker 2: anybody starting a business, it isn't easy. And when Kenya
Speaker 2: made the comment of how do you get people to
Speaker 2: come in the door, like that's some real life shit
Speaker 2: that boss women on these shows don't talk about. And
Speaker 2: when I try to tell reality starts all the time
Speaker 2: and they don't listen.
Speaker 1: But whatever some do, some don't.
Speaker 2: Is it's okay to say I'm failing because the audience
Speaker 2: wants to root for you. We got to get out
Speaker 2: of this mentality that everything's great, everything's fine. We're missing
Speaker 2: moments where someone can say I put in four hundred
Speaker 2: thousand dollars and I'm not seeing a return of my investment.
Speaker 5: The fact that people think that the public is buying
Speaker 5: that everyone has business on television is super successful. All
Speaker 5: businesses have to go through some stuff, especially those kind
Speaker 5: of businesses restaurants.
Speaker 6: Those are very difficult businesses to maintain.
Speaker 5: And I like that she showed that because, like I think,
Speaker 5: Kenya saw the move early on when she first got
Speaker 5: on The Housewives and that she was going to be
Speaker 5: perceived or edited or whatever seen as a villain. So
Speaker 5: she leaned into it like, well, I'm gonna be mischievous,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna stir it up a little bit. And she's
Speaker 5: a mischievous person, she really really is. But I like
Speaker 5: that y'all getting to see some of stuff that Carlos
Speaker 5: are speaking on because she's not one dimensional. And trust me,
Speaker 5: I've had friends that say, yo, know I met your girl, Kenya.
Speaker 6: She was really rude to.
Speaker 5: Me when I met her, and I have had a
Speaker 5: kind of conversations like trust me, I get I hear
Speaker 5: what y'all say, but like, just like in your lives,
Speaker 5: not just yelled to you, but everyone out that's watching,
Speaker 5: we have more than one layer and one level. And
Speaker 5: depending on the day you saw us, well, you may
Speaker 5: have caught her on a bitch dare, you.
Speaker 4: May have court.
Speaker 5: And I'm not making an excuse for her, because I
Speaker 5: don't think it's cool to meet people in to come
Speaker 5: up rub them the wrong way. But I will say this,
Speaker 5: like people are so shocked that she has this vulnerable side,
Speaker 5: but she does.
Speaker 6: She's a human just.
Speaker 5: Like everyone on this panel is, and we all everyone
Speaker 5: that's watching, and I do like to see more of that.
Speaker 5: I think she should do more of that because that's
Speaker 5: who she is. And you know, it's okay to cry, Kenya.
Speaker 5: You've had a horrific childhood. And most people that have
Speaker 5: mommy issues, which you do have rightfully, so are gonna
Speaker 5: be abrasive, are gonna be if you haven't worked through
Speaker 5: your issues, which she clearly hasn't.
Speaker 6: You know, I like that she should do more of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was also very very glad that that
Speaker 3: made the air. You know what I'm saying, I was
Speaker 3: happy for her. I know she's having an abbreviated season
Speaker 3: and she's gonna leave early. I think next week is
Speaker 3: heard this might be her last episode this season. So
Speaker 3: I was actually very very glad that they showed her
Speaker 3: salon and even told that part of the story right
Speaker 3: since she is appearing in the capacity of a guest
Speaker 3: this season. I was glad because I know she probably
Speaker 3: had hinged a lot of the success on her salon
Speaker 3: of her salon rather on the promotion of it being
Speaker 3: shown on the show. So I was glad she got
Speaker 3: that moment, and after seeing the exchange that led to
Speaker 3: what was rumored to happen next week. I haven't seen
Speaker 3: the episode, so I don't know, but after seeing the exchange,
Speaker 3: it like it offers so much more clarity as to
Speaker 3: how they kind of got to that point. And I
Speaker 3: just think that everybody took it too far. I don't
Speaker 3: think Kenya needs to be fired or suspended or whatever
Speaker 3: take the case is. I don't think that brit was
Speaker 3: good to shoot her, you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 3: think they both brit was talking shit and took it
Speaker 3: too far. Kenya took it too far. Part whatever guidelines
Speaker 3: they standards of behavior or whatever they have code of
Speaker 3: conduct they have over there, and it just got out
Speaker 3: of control. But I think this is something that really
Speaker 3: could be resolved and fixed, where we could get Kenya
Speaker 3: back on cast and get a complete version of this
Speaker 3: story being told. There's so many obvious holes in the
Speaker 3: story that we're not getting and we can recognize the
Speaker 3: absence of Kenya in the show in that way. And
Speaker 3: it's not about her being my favorite on the cast.
Speaker 4: She's not.
Speaker 3: But I appreciate her on the cast, and I actually
Speaker 3: love what she brings to it, and I recognize the
Speaker 3: fact that she's necessary for this thing to really roll
Speaker 3: how it ConTroll. So I just hope she's at the reunion.
Speaker 3: If nothing else, they need to let her come to
Speaker 3: the reunion.
Speaker 5: I just saw a comment someone said, how Ralph get
Speaker 5: a confessional instead of Kenya, And I totally agree with that, Like,
Speaker 5: we need that part of the show that is missing.
Speaker 6: We need it.
Speaker 5: And after seeing this episode, listen, I was there that
Speaker 5: night when that stuff happened, but I left a little
Speaker 5: early before the reveal.
Speaker 6: I went to Kenya's opening just a support.
Speaker 5: I was in Atlanta, and like, she was so excited whatever, whatever, whatever,
Speaker 5: And when I heard girl, when you left, oh my god,
Speaker 5: somewhere stuff happened from other people.
Speaker 6: I thought, oh my god, that is so messed up.
Speaker 6: What are bad?
Speaker 5: But now that I see the season unfolding, it seems
Speaker 5: like BRIT's been wanting to have a moment with Kenya,
Speaker 5: Like I think she's taking Kenya's playful band like stuff
Speaker 5: that she does a little too seriously a little but
Speaker 5: what bitch, Like she's so ready to buck like you're
Speaker 5: on ten out the gate, like, why are you so
Speaker 5: on ten? And I think that's a mistake that women
Speaker 5: make going on the show. Let me go for the
Speaker 5: one that's top dog or the queen or whatever, so
Speaker 5: I could get my moment and look at Angela Oakley
Speaker 5: proven it wrong. You can sit back, chill and when
Speaker 5: you get your moment, get your moment. But for you
Speaker 5: to just come out there so hot, it's making Britt
Speaker 5: like all the good things I thought about her the
Speaker 5: last few episodes is out the Door. I think she's
Speaker 5: extremely ghetto on this show. Now I think she declasses
Speaker 5: the show. She brings it down. Is giving baddies, it's
Speaker 5: given love and hip hop is giving fight, like.
Speaker 6: Why are you fighting?
Speaker 5: You're talking about a gun on a show where people
Speaker 5: are drinking. Mimosa's like, what are you doing? I thought that,
Speaker 5: like she really did not do herself with she did
Speaker 5: herself a disservice, like you had your husband there.
Speaker 6: You're gonna be fine.
Speaker 5: No one's attacking you to take it there because you
Speaker 5: got called a peasant on a reality show. Do you
Speaker 5: know The Real Housewives and all these other shows. You
Speaker 5: have to be a wordsmith. You have to be someone
Speaker 5: that can like jab with your words, and you're gonna
Speaker 5: get called some things.
Speaker 6: And if you want to, like.
Speaker 5: Your first response or instincts is to like talk about you,
Speaker 5: I got a pistol and then later on cry on
Speaker 5: the internet and say you've never had to fight?
Speaker 1: Girl.
Speaker 5: You need more people because now you look like are
Speaker 5: you really hard or you soft?
Speaker 6: Because now I can't tell.
Speaker 2: So I did my episode one recap so low because
Speaker 2: I wanted people to really hear lon and clear from me.
Speaker 1: And then we did ours together.
Speaker 2: I said episode one, I love all the girls, I
Speaker 2: said so far, I love everybody. I love Kelly, I
Speaker 2: love Britt, I love Angela, Shanbia who I've known for years.
Speaker 1: Love being her.
Speaker 2: I love all the girls. I like Britt. I like
Speaker 2: Britt a lot. I'm gonna be very honest here as
Speaker 2: I talk about Britt. Brit is great for television, right.
Speaker 2: She has the personality and to look for to be
Speaker 2: on TV.
Speaker 1: She has the look and you can't deny that she
Speaker 1: has a look.
Speaker 2: And I like her personality what I saw, what I'm
Speaker 2: seeing out of Britt so far, and this is me
Speaker 2: being unbiased because I like her.
Speaker 1: And I still like her even today. I like Britt today.
Speaker 2: Britt is doing what some new reality stars do, and
Speaker 2: that is Britt in my opinion, I like you a lot.
Speaker 2: You're trying too hard to make fetch happen. And the
Speaker 2: reason why we love Angela Oakley. She's not at all
Speaker 2: like Loud or like read a girl. Angela comes in
Speaker 2: as herself and again it's the golden rule. I tell
Speaker 2: every single reality start as Claudia. Claudia said, you want
Speaker 2: to do a housewids Atlanta. I'm like, yeah, do it
Speaker 2: what you want? I said, Claudia, what you just gave
Speaker 2: me after hours at this club. If you are you're, you're, you're,
Speaker 2: you're you're that just be you. People underestimate being you.
Speaker 2: The reason why some of these girls on this season
Speaker 2: are being beloved and some girls are being attacked is
Speaker 2: because you're being too conscious of the camera and you're
Speaker 2: trying to make a moment.
Speaker 1: Britt is trying to find something with.
Speaker 2: Kenya, and I know Kenya Moore as a professional, and
Speaker 2: I know Kenya Moore personally. Kenya Moore was not shading
Speaker 2: you and a king to that wedding band.
Speaker 1: You know when Kenyamore is shading you. When Kenyr Moore
Speaker 1: put kim Field's chair, that was shade.
Speaker 2: When Kenya Moore told Porscha season nine before they went glamping,
Speaker 2: you're in anger management.
Speaker 1: Should we be concerned? Are you? Are you a medication?
Speaker 2: That's called She's shading you, and she letting it be
Speaker 2: known she's shading you.
Speaker 1: We know when Kenyr Moore shame you.
Speaker 2: When Kenya Moore had Nini League season six as the
Speaker 2: honoree of her mask ray Ball and Nita never knew
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 1: It was so iconic.
Speaker 2: That's Kenya being shady, Kenya.
Speaker 1: We are fans of this show.
Speaker 2: We know when Kenya Moore's being shady, because when Kenya
Speaker 2: Moore's being shady. There's a twinkle in her eye. She
Speaker 2: can go twinkle because she's loving what she's about to do.
Speaker 2: When Kenya Moore told Charay, I'm sorry. When Sharay told
Speaker 2: Kenya Moore, get on my level, and Kenya Moore duck
Speaker 2: walkin said, I'm.
Speaker 1: On your level. Now I'm on your level.
Speaker 2: Is this low enough to be on your level? That
Speaker 2: is shade Brent. I like you a lot. I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: Kenya Moore was not shading your wedding band. That is
Speaker 2: a week read is a weak excuse to constantly talk
Speaker 2: about this woman. She gave you a fucking hug when
Speaker 2: y'all sat down and you set all the taps.
Speaker 5: I'm like, she was looking like you, looking for a
Speaker 5: reason to be mad, like she's supposed to tngue you
Speaker 5: down like.
Speaker 3: She That's I think that Bridd walked into this this
Speaker 3: situation becoming a cast member with a lot of preconceived notions,
Speaker 3: and I think that she was expecting a certain reception
Speaker 3: or lack thereof from Kenya Moore, and she was on
Speaker 3: the defense from day one, and even her saying that
Speaker 3: she was looking for an opportunity to not let to
Speaker 3: show herself how can I even articulate this? She was
Speaker 3: looking for a moment where she could prove that she
Speaker 3: wasn't gonna take it from Kenya, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: And that's it. So she's she's.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's waiting on a chance to show her that,
Speaker 3: and she's playing to the fans, She's playing to the
Speaker 3: commentary and the audience she's playing to. She's approaching it
Speaker 3: as or it appeared as if she was approaching it
Speaker 3: with the purview of a fan, as opposed to someone
Speaker 3: who felt like they had a sense of belonging on
Speaker 3: the cast and wasn't concerned with how everybody was. They
Speaker 3: were just entering the space, being themselves and letting the
Speaker 3: chips kind of fall where they may. And I think
Speaker 3: that's the difference between her and other like Kelly, who
Speaker 3: seems to be comfortable and no matter what scene she's in,
Speaker 3: Angela comfortable and no matter what scene she's in, Shemiah comfortable,
Speaker 3: no matter what scene she's in. I think that's the
Speaker 3: difference with brit is beautiful and she can very easily.
Speaker 3: There's a space for a pretty ice queen, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, on the cast who can have a
Speaker 3: good look, and you know what I'm saying, not really
Speaker 3: fully connect with the cast will still be present. She
Speaker 3: could play that role and kind of take ownership of it,
Speaker 3: but instead she's taking its like combative adversarial kind of
Speaker 3: positioning or using that as a compass to like navigate
Speaker 3: how she moves in the group.
Speaker 4: And it just was not good. It wasn't appeeling.
Speaker 5: If the rain drops need more evidence of this to think, Oh,
Speaker 5: you're just defending her because you're her friend, are you
Speaker 5: like her or whatever. I hardly ever talked to Keny
Speaker 5: our entire friendship. Once a year, maybe we talk. I
Speaker 5: haven't spoken to her this year. It's been a while, okay,
Speaker 5: so I'm not coming from that area. Even when they
Speaker 5: were reading questions that was supposed to be anonymous, when
Speaker 5: Brick got to her question, she asked the question, can
Speaker 5: you talk to Britt in a respectful way?
Speaker 6: And Kenny said I talked to everyone a respectful way.
Speaker 5: That should have been the end of it, but then
Speaker 5: Britt used that opportunity to double down and requestion her
Speaker 5: and use that as a moment to grill her, and
Speaker 5: Kenny's like, girl, like we've already like, what are you
Speaker 5: doing like you're showing personal issue, personal moment.
Speaker 6: I want a moment with you, Well, why won't you?
Speaker 5: She was trying to check her, and Keny was still
Speaker 5: keeping it light, you know, light and you know, kind
Speaker 5: of fun spirited, and Britt was doing too much and
Speaker 5: I could see that being irritating and then the gun
Speaker 5: thing and.
Speaker 6: Oh I need boy, is my husband that loves me?
Speaker 5: Like I hate when girls think that having a man
Speaker 5: is a read because that same man that you do
Speaker 5: that for. I'm not saying with her in particular, but
Speaker 5: when women do this, they tend to get embarrassed later
Speaker 5: on down the line. And if you're hanging your hat
Speaker 5: on just having a man, honey, that is a big mistake,
Speaker 5: because these men will embarrass the fuck out of you
Speaker 5: one day.
Speaker 6: They may.
Speaker 3: I'll say, here, my thing was all that chat talking
Speaker 3: in the parking line and on the other side of
Speaker 3: the door and shit like bridge, just go up to
Speaker 3: her and have a conversation, king, what's up. I don't
Speaker 3: like how you was talking to me, bitch, and we're
Speaker 3: finna go for it, you know.
Speaker 4: What I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Do that at least, like bring it to her instead
Speaker 3: of standing within earshot. You know what I'm saying, saying
Speaker 3: things to try to gold her and entice her into
Speaker 3: an argument or whatever. That was just a very amateur play.
Speaker 3: She is a new housewife, to be fair, this is
Speaker 3: her first time on this, you know, in this setting.
Speaker 3: I don't remember seeing her on any other reality shows,
Speaker 3: so like, maybe she's just getting used to the environment.
Speaker 3: But that just was not the way to go. And
Speaker 3: I don't think you're left to anybody's mouth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no it did.
Speaker 2: And listen, I like her and I still like her,
Speaker 2: but you can't admit with somebody is wrong.
Speaker 1: I listen, we'll get into this next week. We know
Speaker 1: what Kenya did.
Speaker 2: I'll say it now before next week, because I told
Speaker 2: Kenya to her face Kenya was wrong, and how she
Speaker 2: responded to this.
Speaker 1: Kenya was wrong.
Speaker 4: What was on the posters Carlos.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about that next week, Dustin. But Dustin, I
Speaker 2: said to my friend, what you do? You were wrong? Period,
Speaker 2: And Kenya admitted she was wrong. She said on Tameron
Speaker 2: Hall Show what I did in response, I was wrong?
Speaker 1: Kenya. Listen.
Speaker 2: You can say what you want about Kenya Moore. She's
Speaker 2: not a liar. So when Kenya Moore said she felt threatened.
Speaker 1: To listen.
Speaker 2: I've been a part of that show Atlanta Housewise for
Speaker 2: nine seasons. I have never heard any of my girls
Speaker 2: in the miss First of all, it wasn't even an argument.
Speaker 2: It wasn't you know what I'm saying like, It wasn't
Speaker 2: Britt listen. I like you, Britt, but Britt, we're gonna
Speaker 2: have to have a real conversation.
Speaker 1: And Britt wanted a moment.
Speaker 2: She was feeling herself, and Britt did not want to
Speaker 2: be that girl that got dismissed by Kenya Moore.
Speaker 1: Kenya Moore has been on that show.
Speaker 2: And what I'm sick and tired of is people disrespecting
Speaker 2: Kenya and and take the how you want when it
Speaker 2: comes to Kenya, Kenya was wrong for pulling Kim Field's chair.
Speaker 2: She sat on cocktails with queens, she apologized to and
Speaker 2: she reached out to me about.
Speaker 6: What she wanted to do it, just so y'all know
Speaker 6: she wanted to do it.
Speaker 1: Kenya knows when she's wrong.
Speaker 2: When I saw what happened, nothing Kenya Moore did warranted
Speaker 2: that ammunition pun intended of being displayed.
Speaker 1: Not not like that? Does it? Not just once but
Speaker 1: twice and it was like this. It was like this.
Speaker 3: It was weird as fuck. It was so weird, Like
Speaker 3: where was she, Where was that coming from? Why was
Speaker 3: she speaking about that stuff? Why was she trying to
Speaker 3: It was like she kept saying shit to try to
Speaker 3: entice Kenya into a verbal back and forth. Kenya was
Speaker 3: ignoring her, and so she kept going deeper and deeper
Speaker 3: and deeper and deeper with it. Whips, Who the hell
Speaker 3: has whips unless they finish fuck somebody and do something,
Speaker 3: you know, shit or whatever. And I ain't into that.
Speaker 3: I hate all that, but like, who who has whips?
Speaker 3: Don't nobody have a whip as a whip?
Speaker 1: And I ain't.
Speaker 3: I don't seen a lot of street fights, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. And I've been to Atlanta a lot.
Speaker 3: I ain't never seen the motherfucker pull a whip out
Speaker 3: outside of it.
Speaker 1: We're from Michigan, don't see that.
Speaker 4: I ain't never seen that.
Speaker 3: So I just felt like it was weird and misplaced,
Speaker 3: and she just was amped up and just hell being
Speaker 3: on having a button bumping heads with Kenya, and I
Speaker 3: hate that. It resulted and Kenya being removed from the
Speaker 3: cast because not only did Kenya lose out on the
Speaker 3: opportunity to be a housewife, we fucking lost out as fans.
Speaker 4: We're missing so much of this story we have, I think.
Speaker 1: One of the four multipliers on the show.
Speaker 4: On the show, we're missing it.
Speaker 3: So all you people who have been saying that the
Speaker 3: show is lacking a little bit of this or that,
Speaker 3: that's what's it's missing Kenya Moore and I don't know
Speaker 3: what they thought they was doing by bringing Phaser back,
Speaker 3: because that's not going to do anything but.
Speaker 4: Make it worse.
Speaker 3: So waste the money, Yeah, waste the money, waste the time,
Speaker 3: nothing but facial expressions and uh Loretta a lean and.
Speaker 6: Weird ass smiles with those tap teams showing.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say this, I get sick and tired of like,
Speaker 5: you know, people like to come for Kenya, and Kenya
Speaker 5: does stir the pot.
Speaker 6: Let me just go and say that. But Kenya also
Speaker 6: is one.
Speaker 5: Of the rare people that actually does apologize. A lot
Speaker 5: of these other girls never apologize, and y'all be like,
Speaker 5: but she my fab I like her. Y'all don't understand
Speaker 5: that's my faith, and I don't like that. So I
Speaker 5: do think there's a little bit of an unfairness and
Speaker 5: a bit of a double standard when it comes to Kenya,
Speaker 5: because she's this beauty queen woman. You know, it's easy
Speaker 5: to make her a villain. It's easy to like, oh,
Speaker 5: you ain't got a man, you're bitter, you're this, you're that,
Speaker 5: you're this, that and the third. But you cannot say that.
Speaker 5: Kenya does not. She does apologize for things that she's
Speaker 5: done wrong. She does admit, yes, I was wrong, and
Speaker 5: a lot of times she takes She took the heat
Speaker 5: for this thing. I know her, and yes, I only
Speaker 5: talked to like once year. I did not know about
Speaker 5: this thing with Brittain until I watched the.
Speaker 6: Show this morning.
Speaker 5: Okay, so she held that and took all those l's
Speaker 5: people talking shit, talking about revenge porn, and she did
Speaker 5: not say but she did this to me. She never
Speaker 5: said that, well, not that I know of, and she
Speaker 5: just took the l And when I watched it today,
Speaker 5: I said, this is a motherfucker right here.
Speaker 6: This is messed up.
Speaker 5: And when I saw that what Brittany said to me
Speaker 5: was enough, they both shoued up. You want to suspend
Speaker 5: Kenya for her how she revenged the girl with the
Speaker 5: revenge porn whatever, and we'll see next week.
Speaker 6: Damn sure, Brittney should have had.
Speaker 5: Some kind of accountability for running to say some shit
Speaker 5: about having a pistol twice, not once, but twice. And
Speaker 5: I kind of want to answers, Braval, why'd you do that?
Speaker 6: Watch do that? I don't think that was right at
Speaker 6: all Personally.
Speaker 3: I also think people got to slow up with defining
Speaker 3: certain actions as certain such damning things, right, Like you
Speaker 3: see how people are calling this revenge porn or whatever
Speaker 3: and abusive.
Speaker 4: And just all these buzzwords. Motherfucker's got to be careful
Speaker 4: with that shit. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: They trying to put something that damning on her and
Speaker 3: her reputation and her character. Now, I'm also not going
Speaker 3: to sit up on this screen and kpe for Kenya.
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying y'all are right, but I'm not
Speaker 3: finna act like I don't understand why people don't like Kenya.
Speaker 3: You know, Kenya has not been perfect on this show.
Speaker 3: She has not been an easy person for these women
Speaker 3: to get along with. She has hey several of these
Speaker 3: women when they've come in new She has been rude,
Speaker 3: She has been blatantly disrespectful. She has done a lot
Speaker 3: of shit, but she also has been vindicated more than once,
Speaker 3: and a lot of long standing, long running conflicts with
Speaker 3: these women. And I have not seen her lie yet,
Speaker 3: so to me, she just deserved more of a shot
Speaker 3: in this season.
Speaker 4: I really hope Brig gets it together.
Speaker 3: But I just when she start lying, you know, making
Speaker 3: casual threats about having a pistol and then lying about
Speaker 3: it online saying that you've never you would never, and
Speaker 3: I haven't ever us first, I'll only see it play
Speaker 3: out on TV right in front of our face.
Speaker 4: That's not really helping. Again, it's her first season.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna try to give her a little grace as
Speaker 3: a fan and a viewer, you know, and give her
Speaker 3: a shot get to know her, because I am really
Speaker 3: enjoying this season. But that was not the best start
Speaker 3: for me. It wasn't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think it's okay to And that's that's
Speaker 2: the beauty of us talking about it. No one I'll
Speaker 2: go on record saying I'm not saying Brice should be fired.
Speaker 2: Carlos King is saying is not saying Brice should be fired.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that, but you can like somebody and
Speaker 2: say Britt, don't I don't like that, just like I
Speaker 2: don't like what we're gonna see with Kenya. One thing
Speaker 2: that we saw in the coming Attractions for next week
Speaker 2: is Britt wanting to apologize to Kenya. And this is
Speaker 2: the part that I felt a pit of my stomach.
Speaker 2: It's unfortunate that Britt was allowed to offer an apology
Speaker 2: to Kenya to begin with, based on what she said
Speaker 2: in this episode. It's unfortunate that Kenya was not able
Speaker 2: to apologize for what she did.
Speaker 1: And it's one of those things to me where.
Speaker 2: It's so grossly, you know, mismanaged when it comes to
Speaker 2: how two people who did something not right, they both
Speaker 2: did something not right, they both could not sit there
Speaker 2: woman to woman and apologize to each other and move
Speaker 2: on from it. And it's so fortunate that Kenya wasn't
Speaker 2: given that same level of grace.
Speaker 5: I think with this whole revenge point thing, I actually
Speaker 5: think it's not technically revenge point. From the little bits
Speaker 5: I've heard and scene, I will say that allegedly these
Speaker 5: are pictures that Britney supposedly already put online herself.
Speaker 6: Revenge point.
Speaker 5: I had a revenge point case, and I had someone
Speaker 5: thrown in jail over it is when intimate personal pictures
Speaker 5: that you have not put out there gets put out
Speaker 5: there and used against you. When you post pictures that
Speaker 5: are out there but I don't know, let me let
Speaker 5: me not speak up the side of my neck if
Speaker 5: I don't know. But when you when there are stuff
Speaker 5: people saying that there were pictures that were already put
Speaker 5: out there, or that that were already out there, that
Speaker 5: can you put.
Speaker 6: A Carlos put a spotlight on.
Speaker 2: Because I need to see what's being shown.
Speaker 5: Right, because I heard I did hear like there are
Speaker 5: pictures of her rock and the mic right given dome.
Speaker 6: But then I'm like, was that really on the posters?
Speaker 6: We don't know.
Speaker 5: But I will say this, if you if I put
Speaker 5: some nasty pictures of myself out there or had the
Speaker 5: only fans, oh whatever, and you take those pictures and
Speaker 5: you show them other people, I don't think that's the
Speaker 5: definition of revenge porn. I think if me and you
Speaker 5: have a relationship and we have private photos, or you
Speaker 5: get private photos of me in a compromise the position
Speaker 5: that I did not that is not intended for people
Speaker 5: out there from what I believe in my case, like
Speaker 5: that's what it was.
Speaker 6: But we'll we'll I'll have all the legal you.
Speaker 1: Know, we're gonna find out next week.
Speaker 2: And from my understanding, listen, I think more than likely
Speaker 2: this will be a two parter based on what happens
Speaker 2: at King Salon. So for the Twirlers, you'll get to
Speaker 2: see Kenya from maybe two more episodes and then we'll
Speaker 2: learn her faith. But I mean, Dustin, there is tons
Speaker 2: of rumors around what happened. I'd like to make sure
Speaker 2: to protect integrity of the show if I'm not sure
Speaker 2: those things that haven't been aired. But I will say this,
Speaker 2: I was aware of the common Britain made and Kenya
Speaker 2: told tammeron Hall the same thing, so we kind of knew.
Speaker 1: And we got a chance to see it.
Speaker 2: And again, in a perfect world, I would have liked
Speaker 2: for Britain Kenya to sit in a room where it
Speaker 2: was off camera on camera and to see how they
Speaker 2: both were able to move forward because they both did
Speaker 2: something that was wrong.
Speaker 1: Based on what I've seen, Britt.
Speaker 2: Is looking to apologize to Kenya, and Kenya said on
Speaker 2: Tama Hall show that she was.
Speaker 1: That she that she was wrong and she apologized to Britt.
Speaker 4: So that's all you can ask for.
Speaker 3: I will say this, I'm sure that there were conversations
Speaker 3: that have been taking place between Kenya Moore and her
Speaker 3: reps and you know, the powers that be with the
Speaker 3: show pertaining to her participation on the show.
Speaker 4: I hope her approach was.
Speaker 3: Not what it was in that tweet that she made
Speaker 3: last night or the night before, where she was saying,
Speaker 3: you know, as the longest standing person on the show,
Speaker 3: to be threatened with you and have to be done
Speaker 3: this way, don't nobody want to hear all that.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You're not going to make these people have some sort
Speaker 3: of reverence for you as the longest standing.
Speaker 4: That's not what this is.
Speaker 3: Stick to the issue, stick to what happened, and plead
Speaker 3: your case. Make sure that these people know you are
Speaker 3: open to resolution. You did this because of what she said,
Speaker 3: which you knew you were going to be vindicated on,
Speaker 3: because you knew what the camera's caught. You knew what
Speaker 3: you heard, so I understood her silence, but it's just
Speaker 3: the hearty, you know, how could you do this to me?
Speaker 3: I'm the long standing that's not helping when people already
Speaker 3: think you have an inflated sense of self and that
Speaker 3: you treat people like you're better than them on this show.
Speaker 4: That's not helping.
Speaker 3: So you need to be adding to the dialogue in
Speaker 3: a way that will lead you back to this job
Speaker 3: that you want. You know what I'm saying. They'd be
Speaker 3: different if Kenya was like, I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 3: They threw me out, It's all good. If they call
Speaker 3: me back, they do whatever. She's angry about it. So
Speaker 3: you need to approach it the right way, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, to make your case known. Like I
Speaker 3: just that part was frustrating for me.
Speaker 1: I want to read it.
Speaker 2: I want to read with Dustin saying, Claude A whing's
Speaker 2: your thoughts on it? So Kenya Moore tweet it being
Speaker 2: the longest standing r HOA member threatened with whips and
Speaker 2: pistols by newcomer three weeks in the filming, seeing this
Speaker 2: obsession playoff is scary. I want to protection and insurances
Speaker 2: that the threats will be taken seriously.
Speaker 1: I may be strong, but I'm not bulletproof.
Speaker 2: It's so painful to see my storyline being told by
Speaker 2: someone else. With that said, I really appreciate Kelly being
Speaker 2: so kind of supportive to me. Candice Dealer Basket from
Speaker 2: Potomac's commented and said, they always want to try and
Speaker 2: humble you when you're smarter than them and their goons.
Speaker 2: Kenya deserves better. That's all I'm going to say about it.
Speaker 5: I think that okay, again, revenge point is never good
Speaker 5: to even if it was total.
Speaker 6: I think Kenya's really also good at towing.
Speaker 5: The line like it wasn't technically that, but it kind
Speaker 5: of was, like, you know, I mean, she's definitely good
Speaker 5: at that. As I gotta say that she's good at like, well,
Speaker 5: technically by the definition it really wasn't that. Legally, she
Speaker 5: is really good at that, and she will toe the line.
Speaker 5: She will go to the edge of the line and
Speaker 5: to where she can go one thousand percent.
Speaker 6: I agree with you, Dustin what you just said. Both
Speaker 6: of you are what you just said.
Speaker 5: It doesn't help her, like sometimes you gotta apologize with
Speaker 5: stuff even if you don't feel like you're wrong, and
Speaker 5: that happens a lot in reality TV, just to kind
Speaker 5: of get through it. I think that she she feels justified,
Speaker 5: and now that I see this episode, I can see
Speaker 5: why she feels like, fuck her, it's all in. It
Speaker 5: is what it is like. You did this, Fuck it,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna embarrass you. You threat in my life. That's
Speaker 5: way worse than me showing pictures. I can see how
Speaker 5: in her mind, whether that's right or wrong, I can
Speaker 5: see why she came to that. But when you look
Speaker 5: back at it, when you hear about it, it sounds awful.
Speaker 6: It is awful. It is awful to put this is
Speaker 6: what I met.
Speaker 3: Everybody got mad at me right when I said that
Speaker 3: Kenya had a dark energy on that first episode of
Speaker 3: the show, the first two episodes of the show, and
Speaker 3: it seemed like she was just chiming in. Right, That
Speaker 3: wasn't necessarily a fair comment for me to make because
Speaker 3: she did not get her chance to have her side
Speaker 3: or give her say, so all we got was scenes
Speaker 3: of her chiming in or having an opinion on something.
Speaker 3: We never got to see her confessionals or her personal
Speaker 3: scenes or none of that. But this is what I
Speaker 3: mean about the difference between the energies on the show
Speaker 3: this season. Look at how this It wasn't even a
Speaker 3: disagreement or argument. This weird situation has now snowballed into
Speaker 3: people being removed from the show and the worst allegations,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. When Angela and Smila was
Speaker 3: having a moment, they was trading insults and we laughed
Speaker 3: about it. She sent her holave branching like it was done.
Speaker 3: That's a different kind of energy, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And I just don't know if the synergy of that
Speaker 3: would have lasted. Well, it didn't last the whole season,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Because Kenya's leaving early. I
Speaker 3: just wish we could have gotten a chance to get
Speaker 3: a lighter season from Kenya. I think she was a
Speaker 3: lot of fun in that scene that one on one
Speaker 3: she had with Porsia. I think that she was real
Speaker 3: vulnerable in that scene with Kelly. I just wish we
Speaker 3: could have got more. I hate that's that we're ending
Speaker 3: our Kenya experience this season on a negative note because
Speaker 3: I really wanted a fun, good season from her this
Speaker 3: year and we didn't get it. So I just I
Speaker 3: hope she's at the reunion because I feel like we
Speaker 3: got robbed.
Speaker 6: And also on these shows and Carls, you can help
Speaker 6: speak to this.
Speaker 5: Once you're not deemed a housewife a lot of Probably
Speaker 5: the fun stuff that we could have seen for the
Speaker 5: first four episodes is not gonna make it like we're
Speaker 5: not going to see her and being filmed solo or
Speaker 5: in a housewife capacity because she's not a housewife, So
Speaker 5: all the fun stuff that she probably was given we
Speaker 5: don't see. So we get a judger from the first
Speaker 5: couple episodes and be like, oh, she's coming off dark
Speaker 5: and grouchy and stuff, when maybe that was a moment
Speaker 5: in the four episodes and maybe she gave us you
Speaker 5: know what I mean, because that's the thing, like I remember,
Speaker 5: like until you're the housewife, they only show you in
Speaker 5: all casts, right or just scenes with the housewife, So
Speaker 5: maybe she got cut.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, it is true because Keny's not a housewife.
Speaker 1: That's why you don't see any confessionals. Kenya Moore did.
Speaker 2: Not, but Ralph yeah, I mean, but look, Ralph, Ralph
Speaker 2: is still on the show. I just wanted to make
Speaker 2: it clear that Kenya never filmed a confessional, so she
Speaker 2: never made it to that she made that, so that's
Speaker 2: why you don't see a confessional from her. But look,
Speaker 2: based on what happened this week's episode, I think Atlanta
Speaker 2: is going to be the talk of the town for
Speaker 2: the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: And next week we get.
Speaker 2: To see the most anticipated moment in real housewatch of
Speaker 2: Atlanta history. That is happening next week and I will
Speaker 2: be talking about that with Claudia and Dustin as well.
Speaker 1: Okay, Claudia is gonna come back next week.
Speaker 5: Yes, every time, you know, Carlos is my rich friend,
Speaker 5: so he doesn't ask me back like his assistant. I
Speaker 5: get a tax from his assistant and she'd be like, Heyger,
Speaker 5: are you free Monday. I'm like, yes, But he don't
Speaker 5: hit me himself because he's way too big of a celebrity.
Speaker 1: Now, like we don't like me and you and Dustin
Speaker 1: are in a group chair.
Speaker 6: We are and I liken.
Speaker 1: We almost every day have a group chat.
Speaker 5: I would like an invite to a boat. Can we
Speaker 5: do that Miami thing? Can we do the Miami job?
Speaker 1: I'm going I will work on that. I will work
Speaker 1: on that. So does the Claudia anthing.
Speaker 2: You guys are working on that you want to let
Speaker 2: the rain drops know about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can catch my podcast with Evane k Williams
Speaker 3: Holding Court with Verie k Williams. We are now releasing
Speaker 3: twice a week, so we release on Wednesdays and Fridays,
Speaker 3: so that's twice a week. You can get your holding
Speaker 3: court fixed on all things legal news related.
Speaker 4: And I'll see y'all motherfuckers next week. Y'all know what
Speaker 4: it is. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I'm going to LA Tuesday. We have Games Women Play.
Speaker 5: We have a LA Friday Saturday. Please get your tickets
Speaker 5: at gameswomenplay dot com in Oakland on Sunday. Then we
Speaker 5: go to Detroit, your hometown. Carlos will be in Detroit,
Speaker 5: and then Columbus, Ohio. Actually from a birthday tenth eleven,
Speaker 5: twelve thirteenth, will be in the in Columbus.
Speaker 6: Also, this is the last well.
Speaker 5: We have a prom coming up on April fifth, and
Speaker 5: I'm you know, raising funds. If there's anyone out there
Speaker 5: that wants to make a small donation, Hello Carlos with.
Speaker 6: The link is on my page.
Speaker 5: I have sent it out to a few people and
Speaker 5: it's you know, we go out of pocket with.
Speaker 1: This, but send me the link, Claude, either.
Speaker 5: Twenty five dollars or twenty five hundred will do. I'm
Speaker 5: not asking for ten percent like your greedy charity.
Speaker 4: Yes, sap, what's up? Close the doors, close the doors.
Speaker 5: Close the doors until I get don't be on boats
Speaker 5: around me because I got a fundraiser for these kids.
Speaker 6: We trying to make sure these boys and girls.
Speaker 5: Last week I hung out with the fellas and they
Speaker 5: were so sweet and hum when they were sharing their
Speaker 5: stories with us, and it was like I had to
Speaker 5: be strong on them, but I was like, damn, these
Speaker 5: kids have some hard lives, so we just want their
Speaker 5: problem to be stress free, no expensive.
Speaker 1: Please send me the link, please me.
Speaker 5: You don't gonna ask me twice. I'm gonna send it
Speaker 5: over there. Thank you, Carlos, and thanks for having me.
Speaker 5: I've been having a really good time with you, guys.
Speaker 1: I really no, we've been having a good time with you.
Speaker 2: The rain jobs pass as well, and so guys, please
Speaker 2: check out Claudia Jordan on stage.
Speaker 1: She is doing a great job.
Speaker 2: Dustin's podcast with our friend Evan Kay Williams, and make
Speaker 2: sure to tune into next Monday.
Speaker 1: I love you, Dustin, I love you Claudia.
Speaker 5: Love you so much, they said, clue y'all.
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