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Speaker 1: going to be about the end of spring training, the
Speaker 1: things we are taking away where some guys are going
Speaker 1: on the upsosse maybe some guys that are going on
Speaker 1: the downswing at the very end. Spring training, I always
Speaker 1: say doesn't mean much except for the people that it
Speaker 1: means everything for and for some guys it just means
Speaker 1: a little bit more in terms of proving you're healthy,
Speaker 1: proving you are back on track, or also whether or
Speaker 1: not you're coming away in the spring into the regular
Speaker 1: season with a job that's very important. So Welsh, give
Speaker 1: me three guys that are actually on the rise after
Speaker 1: spring training that you feel really good about where their
Speaker 1: directions going as we head into the regular season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I just want to like add on to
Speaker 3: what you're saying. Spring training is tough because like the
Speaker 3: teaching moment for all of us is like, don't fall
Speaker 3: into what happens in spring positively or negatively. But spring
Speaker 3: does become narrative based, and I would totally acknowledge that,
Speaker 3: like everybody, like the joke meme going on right now
Speaker 3: in the fantasy baseball space is like, you know, hey,
Speaker 3: spring stats don't mean anything except when it improves my
Speaker 3: narrative except for this guy that it does, so like
Speaker 3: I acknowledge that, but listen, it does go both ways.
Speaker 3: There are guys that are gonna show with signs in
Speaker 3: spring that carry over and amazing things happen. There are
Speaker 3: guys that are going to struggle in spring that's gonna
Speaker 3: be like completely out of our brains once the season starts.
Speaker 3: So this is tough. This is narrative base I completely
Speaker 3: acknowledge it. So here were three players I kind of
Speaker 3: painstakingly was trying to pick between because, like I said,
Speaker 3: there are plenty of guys that put up just insane numbers.
Speaker 3: So who do you pick from? So my number one,
Speaker 3: I'm going over to Pittsburgh Pirates starting pitcher who just
Speaker 3: made the team, Jared Jones. These are the type of
Speaker 3: guys that I'm really hyper focused on. I got Lucky
Speaker 3: bog Me and I are doing the Shares episode coming
Speaker 3: up here soon on itl and he said one of
Speaker 3: my highest shares was Jared Jones. And he's like, you're
Speaker 3: gonna look pretty smart because I got him in very
Speaker 3: early drafts, and Jared Jones is coming off of what
Speaker 3: is a pretty great spring. The greatness is he did
Speaker 3: not give up a single run in spring over sixteen innings.
Speaker 2: That's pretty crazy.
Speaker 3: What's not great the strikeout numbers, based on where he
Speaker 3: usually is, seemed to be a little bit lower under
Speaker 3: nine K pro nine. He was kind of wid and
Speaker 3: that's gonna be something I'm a little worried could come
Speaker 3: back to haunt him. But he made the opening day roster.
Speaker 3: And this is a guy that has popped really in
Speaker 3: their minor league system for quite a long time.
Speaker 2: He's gonna be in the rotation. This is huge.
Speaker 3: There are big strikeout numbers, He's got a good arsenal
Speaker 3: of pitches. I think this is a guy that's got
Speaker 3: to be picked up pretty much everywhere. Maybe not in
Speaker 3: ten team leagues, but I'm putting him on the back
Speaker 3: end of my bench. Your drafts are over, okay, maybe
Speaker 3: you can try to slide him through on some some
Speaker 3: free you know, waiver claim or maybe really low fab
Speaker 3: or something like that. I'd like to get him.
Speaker 2: Spring did Jared.
Speaker 3: Jones really really well, and he's gonna be on the
Speaker 3: rotation number two, Colton Kowser with the Baltimore Orioles. How
Speaker 3: disappointed was I when Jackson Holiday did not make the
Speaker 3: team a lot?
Speaker 2: So much so I'm gonna put the I'm gonna put
Speaker 2: the excuse.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go print the excuse out all the nonsense
Speaker 3: they said, I'm gonna put it behind me for leading off,
Speaker 3: and we're gonna just keep that there until.
Speaker 2: He gets up there. They're like, oh, you know, he's
Speaker 2: got to learn.
Speaker 3: He left, he's a little bit more and little lack
Speaker 3: of pro experience and okay, learning a new position. He's fine,
Speaker 3: he's great in spring. But the guy that was able
Speaker 3: to kind of push all of that, it wasn't Kobe Mayo,
Speaker 3: wasn't Jackson Holiday, it wasn't Heston Kershed. It was Colton Kowser,
Speaker 3: who lost prospect eligibility I.
Speaker 2: Think last year, but had six homers.
Speaker 3: This spring. He hit three h four and he made
Speaker 3: the team. Do we want to read too much into
Speaker 3: those home run numbers? No, not necessarily, But here was
Speaker 3: the deal. He was a really good contact hitter in
Speaker 3: the miners leading up to last season, and then the
Speaker 3: power just kind of dissipated.
Speaker 2: We're like, oh, Oh, who is this guy? He is
Speaker 2: a home run a hitter.
Speaker 3: He's a twenty five plus home run guy, and he
Speaker 3: now made the roster and he's gonna get time. Colton
Speaker 3: Kowser with the Baltimore Ools is another one of those
Speaker 3: players I would try to be picking up and Spring
Speaker 3: did him well the spring numbers and pushed him into
Speaker 3: the starting roster. It's something you should be paying attention to.
Speaker 2: I know I was.
Speaker 3: And then the final one, I got a picture for you.
Speaker 3: How about aj puck aj pukright, phenomenal thirteen innings with
Speaker 3: a one three to two Spring Era, fifteen strikeouts, which
Speaker 3: equated to a forty one percent K percentage. Why else
Speaker 3: do we like this? Well, they're kind of a mess.
Speaker 3: That Marlin's rotation is just kind of disastrous. He gets
Speaker 3: a longer lease, he added in. Everyone talked about it.
Speaker 3: He's got that sweeper slider, he add in, kind of
Speaker 3: a more bullet slider, which is just more of a
Speaker 3: like it's kind of cutterish. It's just like the sweeper
Speaker 3: is coming across his zone. This one has got easy bite,
Speaker 3: having two versions of that slider to go along with
Speaker 3: that fastball. He's being a little bit more consistent, not
Speaker 3: walking at bad rates that he did before, and a
Speaker 3: forty one percent k percentage in Spring. Let's not not
Speaker 3: pay attention to that. Let's pay attention to the added
Speaker 3: repertoire to his arsenal. Let's pay attention to the strikeout numbers.
Speaker 3: And now let's throw him in to a team where
Speaker 3: he is going to have a longer leash, really because
Speaker 3: they have to. Ajpuck is a huge riser from Spring,
Speaker 3: So Colton kwser Aj Puck and throw Jerry Jones. Those
Speaker 3: are three guys that were on my Spring rises.
Speaker 1: And another guy too who you know. I mean, we're
Speaker 1: looking at him now. Puck is going to be twenty
Speaker 1: nine years old this year, which is kind of stunning
Speaker 1: to think of that. I feel like there's so many
Speaker 1: years there. We were waiting on him to pop with
Speaker 1: the Oakland A's all these years, it just never really
Speaker 1: came to fruition. Injuries derailed him. The A's organization itself,
Speaker 1: I think you could probably argue derailed him too. But
Speaker 1: he's also a bigger guy. He's a six to seven
Speaker 1: pitcher Welsh and sometimes those guys take a little bit longer.
Speaker 1: I mean, Randy Johnson was a bigger picture. Took him
Speaker 1: a long time to really kind of harness mechanics and
Speaker 1: all that. There's been a lot of guys in that
Speaker 1: ILK that you could say that about, and maybe it's
Speaker 1: a late bloomer situation, but you're right, man, Miami needs
Speaker 1: him in the worst way, especially with that Perez injury.
Speaker 1: Max Meyers another guy is who's eventually we're gonna, you know,
Speaker 1: see him. I think too, and we'll see you know.
Speaker 1: The Marlins certainly were more competitive last year than people realized,
Speaker 1: but Puck could be a huge addition to this rotation.
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Speaker 1: to the action. My three guys on the way up.
Speaker 1: As spring training came to a close, Johnny Brido of
Speaker 1: the San Diego Padre is gonna be the fifth starter
Speaker 1: in that Padres rotation, which is deep, folks. I mean
Speaker 1: that is a good rotation. I keep saying it's the
Speaker 1: best rotation in that division, and that's saying something I think.
Speaker 1: But top to bottom, I think it's the deepest one.
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be very good so far.
Speaker 1: Johnny Brito in spring got enough's a really good start
Speaker 1: thirteen innings, pitched a one point two to three whip,
Speaker 1: a two point zero eight Era sixteen strikeouts, just three walks.
Speaker 1: That's the thing. It really stock out to me when
Speaker 1: it comes to Brito too, and he's got this spot here,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's going anywhere. I think he's gonna
Speaker 1: have a decent leash here in this rotation. So you know,
Speaker 1: Michael King's gonna be the fourth starter. Then he got Darvish,
Speaker 1: Dylan Cec and Joe Musgrove at the top of it.
Speaker 1: That is a formidable group. I think the Padres are
Speaker 1: gonna be very competitive. I think we saw a little
Speaker 1: snippet of that last week in the Korean series, and
Speaker 1: the Padres are going to be something you have to
Speaker 1: deal with. Machado is gonna be fine and everything else
Speaker 1: either without Sodo, that lineup still has enough in it
Speaker 1: between Tatise and Machado in the middle of it and
Speaker 1: Away Kim played last year and of course Versusandre Bogart's
Speaker 1: second half very encouraging. So Brio's a guy that I'd
Speaker 1: be picking up everywhere, stashing on my bench two start weeks.
Speaker 1: Brio would absolutely early on if he can continue this pace,
Speaker 1: be a guy that I'd throw out there. Frankie Montas
Speaker 1: closed Spring very well, I know you look at the
Speaker 1: era when it comes to Mantas, but even though it
Speaker 1: was a little high in the fives in spring, I
Speaker 1: think the thing you take away is over the sixteen innings,
Speaker 1: sixteen strikeouts, five walks, it's a good ratio for him.
Speaker 1: The last start he had was very good. He feels healthy.
Speaker 1: It's not that long ago. It's a few years ago.
Speaker 1: This guy had two hundred strikeouts in the season. Right.
Speaker 1: It's health when it comes to Montas, not talent. I
Speaker 1: think we can all agree on that. We were all
Speaker 1: very excited about him back in twenty twenty one in
Speaker 1: the fantasy community, but unfortunately injuries kind of took its toll.
Speaker 1: We know last year was a lost season for Montas.
Speaker 1: We all knew it was a bad idea with the
Speaker 1: Yankees trade for him. We said it on the show,
Speaker 1: and of course is exactly what happened on leading off
Speaker 1: is exactly what we predicted, which is things we're going
Speaker 1: to go south. But now a guy who qualifies Welsh
Speaker 1: in some spots at RP and SP that gives you
Speaker 1: a lot of flexibility. I think Montas is a guy
Speaker 1: worth taking. I took him for a buck in my
Speaker 1: last draft, and you know what, it's looking pretty good
Speaker 1: right now because that Reds team also has a chance
Speaker 1: to be very good and could even challenge for that
Speaker 1: Division two. And the last one is another Cincinnati read
Speaker 1: Christian Incarnassion Strand, who why everyone's talking about White Langford
Speaker 1: and they should. But Strand is also a guy who
Speaker 1: had a phenomenal Spring five homers, fourteen RBI hit three
Speaker 1: point thirty three with a three eighty two OVP and
Speaker 1: a seven eighty four slugging and eleven sixty six ops.
Speaker 1: The guy was tremendous. Now, look, we all know that,
Speaker 1: you know, every young player is always going to have
Speaker 1: ups and downs. He's still a young player. But Welsh
Speaker 1: coming out of Spring the way the Wyatt Langford ADP
Speaker 1: and price just has skyrocketed. I mean, he went for
Speaker 1: thirty five dollars in a last salary cap, but we
Speaker 1: got it was crazy thirty five dollars, right. Strand is
Speaker 1: not going for that. Strand is not going to be
Speaker 1: that same kind of thing. He is kind of floating
Speaker 1: under the radar, underneath guys on his own team, guys
Speaker 1: like Elie de la Cruz, guys like Matt McLain. You know,
Speaker 1: he is still kind of floating in relative and they
Speaker 1: by comparison, and I don't think you should be I
Speaker 1: think you should take advantage of that while you can.
Speaker 1: So those are three guys going in the right direction, Welsh.
Speaker 1: Give me some guys that maybe are going in the
Speaker 1: wrong direction, or maybe you have concerns about as we
Speaker 1: enter the season because spring trading was not necessarily kind
Speaker 1: to them for one reason or another.
Speaker 3: Now you know, And I think here's a great question
Speaker 3: to throw out too, because I am I'm gonna pick
Speaker 3: on myself for this one, my first one. But you
Speaker 3: know what are you more prone to focus on with spring?
Speaker 3: Are you more prone to focus on the ups? Or
Speaker 3: are you more prone to focus.
Speaker 2: On the downs?
Speaker 3: I feel like me I tend to put a little
Speaker 3: bit more focus on the positives. I feel like publicly
Speaker 3: we put more focus on the negatives. I could be
Speaker 3: wrong about that, of course, and you know people disagree,
Speaker 3: but I feel.
Speaker 1: Like negatives in spring are tough because you have those
Speaker 1: moments where a picture is just working on a pity.
Speaker 1: I'm just throwing fastballs today. Kids sure like they don't
Speaker 1: care about results. That's the danger of it. It's the
Speaker 1: little ballparks. It's the uh, you know guys that I've
Speaker 1: never faced before, and you know I can't throw you know,
Speaker 1: high fastballs to you know these guys because they're gonna
Speaker 1: hit out of ballparks or the wind is blowing out
Speaker 1: that day. I mean, there's so many weird variables in
Speaker 1: spring it makes the negatives difficult to gauge. I think, well,
Speaker 1: that's the hardest part for me anyway.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of agree, especially when it's like two talent.
Speaker 3: So again, this is the here's the balance. You guys
Speaker 3: figure out your own balance, so here's mine. So here's
Speaker 3: the way I'm picking on myself while also giving a
Speaker 3: slight caveat.
Speaker 2: I talked a lot about.
Speaker 3: Jared Kelnick early on when we were doing early draft
Speaker 3: videos that I think he's a guy.
Speaker 2: That can break out.
Speaker 3: But Jared Kelnick had a poor Spring, and that's saying
Speaker 3: it lightly. So number one on this list is going
Speaker 3: to be Jared Kelnick, because let's not deny that he
Speaker 3: is a faller as far as Spring goes from a
Speaker 3: performance standpoint, he hit one thirty five gross, He had
Speaker 3: one extra base hit the whole time he was hitting
Speaker 3: everything into the ground.
Speaker 1: He had a.
Speaker 3: I think it was sixty percent pull rate within over
Speaker 3: fifty percent ground ball, So he was just seeing everything
Speaker 3: get bad and putting everything on the ground.
Speaker 2: Can that balance back?
Speaker 3: Yes, I think again the ballpark factor for left handed
Speaker 3: hitters is beneficial for Atlanta. Kelnick started to come on
Speaker 3: right towards the end of spring. He's gonna steal He's
Speaker 3: just got a hit for average. That's a big thing.
Speaker 3: But so why if I'm caveating being like, hey, he
Speaker 3: could still be kind of good, why am I putting
Speaker 3: him on this list? The biggest negative is they brought
Speaker 3: in Adam de vall and I think that one stands
Speaker 3: out to me of some form of platoon. There's no
Speaker 3: longer the DH spot for a guy like Devaal to
Speaker 3: go to. That's Marcelo Zuna's, so they're legit could be
Speaker 3: platoon situations. This also might not be the worst situation
Speaker 3: for Kelnick. If you can get Keelnick away from his
Speaker 3: from whatever bad split platoon situations are going on, and
Speaker 3: you can just put him in the right one. Maybe
Speaker 3: he gets less at bats, but categorically he can put
Speaker 3: up big numbers. But I'm not gonna deny that he
Speaker 3: didn't have a bad, bad spot down.
Speaker 1: I think all the guys we're going to talk about.
Speaker 1: Down doesn't mean done, It just means down. So understand that.
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean you're avoiding these players all together. It
Speaker 1: just means, hey, you got to be aware of the
Speaker 1: downside of spring training, as you mentioned, filtering into organization's
Speaker 1: minds too, as they and to make roster moves based
Speaker 1: on how guys were before me in the spring, because
Speaker 1: they need insurance too, just like your fantasy team needs insurance.
Speaker 3: And ADP's are going down too. That's the other thing.
Speaker 3: Like this spring, here's another one we're not going to deny.
Speaker 3: This spring has moved Jared Kelnick's value down dramatically. Yes,
Speaker 3: but I'm still taking him now because he's even he's
Speaker 3: becoming like free. Before he was like, oh okay, he's in
Speaker 3: like the two hundreds twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: Now he's becoming free.
Speaker 3: I just did a dinger draft and I took him
Speaker 3: as like my seventh outfielder because I'm still gonna take
Speaker 3: the shots, because I don't want to say spring is everything.
Speaker 3: But on the down here's another one. This is like
Speaker 3: one of the most popular last pick sleepers. For so
Speaker 3: many people. But it's been a spring for him. Matt Walner.
Speaker 3: Matt Wallner because he had you know, huge hard hit numbers.
Speaker 3: It can barrel the ball. If given the opportunity, he
Speaker 3: could be a thirty home run hitter and you're getting
Speaker 3: him for free.
Speaker 2: All of these things can still be into play.
Speaker 3: But he has had a piss poor spring, hitting one
Speaker 3: oh seven with a forty percent strikeout rate, which is
Speaker 3: so here's the big thing I want to throw out
Speaker 3: to this because it's not that Matt Waldner can't not
Speaker 3: be good. But they've got other guys. They've got Willie Castro,
Speaker 3: who's a player that stole a ton of bases in
Speaker 3: short sample sizes, that can play the infield.
Speaker 2: In the outfield, You've got keer Lof still dealing with
Speaker 2: the DH spot.
Speaker 3: You've got brooks Lee who got sent down and probably
Speaker 3: deserved to stay on this team. I'm not saying all
Speaker 3: these guys are outfielder's. What I'm saying is is there
Speaker 3: are other players ready to snatch up potential opportunities here,
Speaker 3: and Matt Waldner may have put himself into a situation
Speaker 3: where he did not take the job and run away
Speaker 3: with it.
Speaker 2: You could see him get into platoons.
Speaker 3: Maybe it was always going to be there where Willie
Speaker 3: Castro takes that so really really bad spring.
Speaker 2: He's on the down. And my final one, I'm going to.
Speaker 3: Take it to a pitcher in Eric Fetti, who was
Speaker 3: again a very popular sleeper. Scott White, me and him
Speaker 3: talk about it a bunch. He was like a Muss
Speaker 3: draft guy. Started moving down the list first off the spring,
Speaker 3: pretty bad five over five era x FIP was right
Speaker 3: into the mid fours. Strikeouts looked really low. Fourteen innings,
Speaker 3: he only struck out eight, which is not really what
Speaker 3: everybody wanted. Everyone thought he was going to come over
Speaker 3: with advanced splitter and everything is going to be amazing.
Speaker 3: Here's the other deal. The team did pull the trigger
Speaker 3: on getting Dylan Ceeze off of this team. So they're
Speaker 3: now going to war with guys like Garrett Crochet, who's
Speaker 3: the opening day starter, and you've got Eric Fetti and
Speaker 3: you've got Mike Soroka. The rotation doesn't look great. The
Speaker 3: offense is still kind of stuttered. Defensively, they're not that great,
Speaker 3: and Fetti banged himself up the other day. I think
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's going to start the season
Speaker 3: on the il, but he's already showing some injury stuff.
Speaker 2: This is a plus thirty year old.
Speaker 3: Guy whose stuff hasn't looked fantastic in spring, who's getting
Speaker 3: a little bit banged up on a horrifically bad team.
Speaker 2: I'm picking on low guys, so it's.
Speaker 3: Like, who cares about these players that are going up
Speaker 3: and down and rising and falling. But Fetti was a
Speaker 3: guy who's drafting everywhere. I'm a little tenuous about it now,
Speaker 3: and I think we have to consider that the spring
Speaker 3: has moved him to maybe not a must draft, to
Speaker 3: maybe a player that you're looking to stream if he
Speaker 3: gets off to a hot start.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely U Again, you gotta understand the context.
Speaker 1: We're not saying these guys are completely avoidable, but we're
Speaker 1: saying that spring does matter sometimes for certain guys. I
Speaker 1: think it means a little bit for DJ Lemayhew. That's
Speaker 1: the way I'm going to start here with my guys
Speaker 1: moving down. Not just the injury unfortunately to him, but
Speaker 1: also if you look at what he's done this spring,
Speaker 1: or should I say hasn't done this spring? A five
Speaker 1: point thirty five ops and a two twenty two batting
Speaker 1: average spring before the injury. That's not making me feel
Speaker 1: warm and fuzzy. I know he's going to hit at
Speaker 1: the top of the Yankee lineup. Theoretically when he's there,
Speaker 1: it's healthy. Yeah, but again it's theoretical at this point.
Speaker 1: And then conversely, we've talked a lot about the possibility
Speaker 1: of Vulpi taking that spot from him sooner than later,
Speaker 1: and I continue to beat that drumwells because I think
Speaker 1: it's going to happen to Vulpy. Conversely, had a very
Speaker 1: nice spring showing you all the things you got excited
Speaker 1: about Anthony Volpey. I mean, I remember having Eric Cross
Speaker 1: on last year and the year before, and he kept
Speaker 1: and this is a Red Sox guy, just continuing to
Speaker 1: talk about how great Anthony Volpi was, and he would
Speaker 1: just go on and on out of and he was right.
Speaker 1: And I think that d J. L. Mayhew is a
Speaker 1: player that a lot of people thought, Hey, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take him a He's gonna be the top of the
Speaker 1: orders again to score one hundred runs. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm starting to think that we might be at the
Speaker 1: end of the road here, but possibly with DJ Lemayhew
Speaker 1: like this, the guy's gonna get dropped in the order.
Speaker 1: There's a guy that could even get replaced at some
Speaker 1: point at his position as the Yankees continue to struggle
Speaker 1: with health right now, between Cole and Rizzo now le Mayhew.
Speaker 1: I mean, it is a lot going on here for
Speaker 1: the Yankees, and I think le may is a player
Speaker 1: going the wrong direction. Age is not his friend. Previous
Speaker 1: performance the last couple of years is not his friend.
Speaker 1: I think this is kind of a fork in the road,
Speaker 1: and if the Yankees were smart, they wouldn't dwell in
Speaker 1: the past year. If it's not working out. I understand
Speaker 1: wanted to give the guy as benefit of doubt. You
Speaker 1: give him a month in that spot when he's healthy,
Speaker 1: see what happens. But if it's not working out and
Speaker 1: Volpi's hitting, you have to make that change. Next on
Speaker 1: this list again kind of like one of Welsh's here
Speaker 1: with kell Nick and Duval Mark Vientos. So the New
Speaker 1: York Mets qualifies at first third d h kind of guy, right,
Speaker 1: I think with Viento's basically it comes down to this.
Speaker 1: He did flash power. He had five home runs in
Speaker 1: the spring, but the problem is he had nineteen strikeouts,
Speaker 1: too way too much swing and miss, two thirty two
Speaker 1: batting average, a two fifty nine OVP. Those things aren't good.
Speaker 1: So what did the Mets do? They signed Jad Martinez,
Speaker 1: which is very very smart here because the Mets are
Speaker 1: probably not going to be competing. In my opinion, I
Speaker 1: don't think that pitching staff is good enough to compete
Speaker 1: for a playoff spot. We'll see, maybe I'll be wrong.
Speaker 1: Typically I'm right when it comes to the Mets, which
Speaker 1: is unfortunate because usually it's a negative. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, Jady Martinez probably not going to spend the
Speaker 1: whole year with the Mets if things do go south,
Speaker 1: so Biento's will get a shot eventually. It makes him
Speaker 1: a really fascinating by low in dynasty leagues right now, Welsh,
Speaker 1: because the market's kind of gone the other way on him.
Speaker 1: I think he's a player that has twenty five home
Speaker 1: run power at the big league level. He does need
Speaker 1: to fix the strikeouts, he does need to make more contact.
Speaker 1: I think those are things that he could work on.
Speaker 1: But my goodness, that interview that he gave after when
Speaker 1: they realized that they signed Jad Martinez. Vento's clearly was
Speaker 1: not happy about this and clearly new I'm going back
Speaker 1: to the league's things are not going to work out
Speaker 1: for me here, at least not yet. And sometimes players
Speaker 1: respond very well to that, They respond with a chip
Speaker 1: on their shoulder, and I think that's a good thing,
Speaker 1: possibly for Vento's, so keep that in mind. Interesting by
Speaker 1: Lowen dynasty not a guy right now in redraft circles
Speaker 1: need to pay attention to. But the JD. Martinez thing,
Speaker 1: He's an older player. It's not gonna last all year.
Speaker 1: Vento's at some point will get another shot, so this
Speaker 1: is more of a long term thing. But certainly a
Speaker 1: guy going the opposite direction this spring is not going
Speaker 1: to start twenty twenty four in a good spot here,
Speaker 1: but hopefully in the minor leagues he produces, and if
Speaker 1: he does, put him on that watch list because you
Speaker 1: might want to add him sooner than later, because there's
Speaker 1: always going to be injuries and opportunities at some point
Speaker 1: in the season. Third one is a big name Welsh
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying I'm not drafting this guy. And
Speaker 1: I remember some spring trainings in fact one in particular
Speaker 1: years ago it was Zach Greenk's first cy young actual
Speaker 1: season where I think as ERA was like nineteen. In
Speaker 1: the spring, it was terrible. I'm exaggerating only slightly. That's
Speaker 1: how bad Granky was that spring. He ended up winning
Speaker 1: the cy Young that year, and people were fading him
Speaker 1: and freaking out because it was such a terror. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, what's wrong with Cranky. I don't want to say,
Speaker 1: oh my god, what's wrong with logan Web, but Welsh,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, what's wrong with logan Web. He's a
Speaker 1: ten nine to six ERA over twenty one innings this spring.
Speaker 1: He whip is at one eight seven. Now, the strikeout
Speaker 1: rate's still pure goal twenty two strikeouts, just three walks.
Speaker 1: So that's kind of my safe haven when it comes
Speaker 1: to logan Web. But he has given up thirty seven
Speaker 1: hits in those twenty one innings. Now I assume this
Speaker 1: is a guy just working the kinks out. Logan Web
Speaker 1: has been so consistent. He's kind of like my safe
Speaker 1: word in fantasy logan Web. Like when I don't like
Speaker 1: how the pitching looks on the board or things are
Speaker 1: getting uncomfortable, I'll just scream out logan Web and draft
Speaker 1: logan Web. But all of a sudden, it feels a
Speaker 1: little less safe this spring after this last couple rounds here.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna put this to you. Is this the
Speaker 1: classic case of you overreacting to spring with a guy
Speaker 1: who's got nothing but good track record. Is he hiding
Speaker 1: an injury? Is there something more brewing here when it
Speaker 1: comes to Logan Web or what? Because these numbers are
Speaker 1: not great when it comes to Logan Web, and this
Speaker 1: is another picture we're counting on to anchor fantasy rotations.
Speaker 3: This is an ear muff situation. I'm just put my
Speaker 3: ear mus on. I'm not listening to any of it.
Speaker 3: These are all bad words, not doing this. This is
Speaker 3: the example, and by the way, this will be what
Speaker 3: we look back on if Logan Web like starts off
Speaker 3: really rough and then maybe he picks.
Speaker 2: It back up blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: But this is the prime like spring example of I
Speaker 3: don't care to your point, though he's given up the
Speaker 3: most earned runs of any single picture in all of
Speaker 3: spring training, he is getting demolished. There's not a lot
Speaker 3: of that stack cast data is just not like available
Speaker 3: unless he's gone to Salt River, which is the bummer.
Speaker 3: You'd like to see more of it, you'd like to
Speaker 3: assume there's a lot of work. But this is like
Speaker 3: the safety there's a safety net to this. Here's a positive.
Speaker 3: By the way, some of these pictures you go and
Speaker 3: look at, and this is what worries me.
Speaker 2: I pick and choose some of the things.
Speaker 3: One thing that worries me with pictures is when I
Speaker 3: see walk numbers get out of control, like era is
Speaker 3: whatever and whatever. But like when I see walk numbers
Speaker 3: that look at normal or walk numbers that are carrying somebody, listen,
Speaker 3: Jerry Jones ten percent walk rate. I don't love that.
Speaker 3: And I picked him as a as an up. Logan
Speaker 3: web is three walks, all spring pitching to a ton
Speaker 3: of contact. Unfortunately a lot of contact.
Speaker 1: Maybe, so I mentioned earlier. I was like, I'm, uh,
Speaker 1: walk rates low, strikeout rates high. I don't care about
Speaker 1: the five VRA. Yeah, And that's how about Logan Webs
Speaker 1: the RA because he's getting hit all over the ballpark,
Speaker 1: and that to me is a little troubling here.
Speaker 2: I'm just you know, yeah, I'm I'm I'm ignoring all
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 3: If if he had really bad like walk numbers and
Speaker 3: we had reports of like really bad v LO decreases
Speaker 3: and stuff like that I'd be more worried push comes
Speaker 3: to shove into season. It's a great, uh pitcher friendly ballpark.
Speaker 3: You heard JD Martinez. I don't know if everybody saw this.
Speaker 3: JD Martinez talked about why he didn't sign with San Francisco.
Speaker 3: He literally cited how not hit or friendly that ballpark is,
Speaker 3: and how if he were to go there and his
Speaker 3: power numbers were to struggle, people would think he's done
Speaker 3: and he might not be able to earn some more money.
Speaker 3: He literally went to Mets because it's more friendly and avoided.
Speaker 3: That's a good pitcher thing. So he you know, the
Speaker 3: stuff is about the same. He's not abnormally walking guys.
Speaker 3: It's just bad spring numbers. Right now, I am not
Speaker 3: paying attention to any of it, and I am drafting him,
Speaker 3: but we will go back and cite this if he
Speaker 3: does start to struggle early in April.
Speaker 1: Or if there's an injury or something else is wrong.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on. Look, and sometimes there's
Speaker 1: personal things going on. These are not just you know,
Speaker 1: numbers on a page or people. There could be a
Speaker 1: lot going on this guy's personal life for all we know.
Speaker 1: All I know is that's not the Logan Web we
Speaker 1: signed up for. It's not the guy we're seeing in
Speaker 1: the Spring so far, and it probably means nothing, like
Speaker 1: Welsh's saying, I'm ninety percent sure it means nothing, but
Speaker 1: there's that ten percent where I'm just a little concerned.
Speaker 1: And when I have to pay that kind of price
Speaker 1: for a picture, it gives me pause because he is
Speaker 1: now even higher up on that trope.
Speaker 3: If you were in a draft right now, I feel
Speaker 3: like that would be in your head and I'm trying
Speaker 3: to think of who the guy you like are between.
Speaker 2: But I feel like the.
Speaker 1: Other tyler Glass now or you know, Logan Web right now,
Speaker 1: I think I would doe tyler Glass now, like.
Speaker 2: Are you a Curby guy? I don't know if you're
Speaker 2: a Kurby guy.
Speaker 1: I would take Kirby Overweb right now. I wasn't before
Speaker 1: the Spring.
Speaker 2: I could tell you about this, How about this Yamamoto
Speaker 2: or Web struggle.
Speaker 1: I'll take Web, but it's for different reasons. But again,
Speaker 1: like I think the Web track record, he's earned that
Speaker 1: respect a little bit, and it's not a disrespect Yamamoto,
Speaker 1: and it's not because of what he did in the
Speaker 1: first start. You throw these things out the window. I
Speaker 1: think sometimes with the travel and all the pressure on
Speaker 1: the weirdness going on there. But there's a question for
Speaker 1: you too. In a time when we're trying to evaluate
Speaker 1: players the most, it seems like, don't you think it's
Speaker 1: weird that stack cast isn't available for every ballpark?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think there's, uh, there's financial components.
Speaker 1: There might be You're right, MEMLB doesn't make a lot
Speaker 1: of money.
Speaker 3: Right, No, But I'm saying, like teams committee, okay, well,
Speaker 3: I mean there's a lot of things we could cite to,
Speaker 3: but it just took like you know, lawyers and public
Speaker 3: outrage for years for them to like, you know, pay
Speaker 3: four hundred extra dollars a month to minor leaguers so
Speaker 3: you know, to put in the bat. There's also advantages
Speaker 3: if you remember when there was like bubbly type of
Speaker 3: things going on, teams were allowed to tell other teams, oh,
Speaker 3: you can't come scout our prospects.
Speaker 2: They weren't allowed to go do it. So like people
Speaker 2: will take.
Speaker 3: The advantage of hiding certain things or you know sometimes that.
Speaker 1: Crazy like how do you how do you you know,
Speaker 1: if I want to scout your prospects, I have this
Speaker 1: thing called the Internet. I can look up pretty much
Speaker 1: every app bad.
Speaker 3: But they weren't allowing people to come back to backfields
Speaker 3: and see guys in live looks, which hurts the scouting
Speaker 3: departments and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, it's all goofy uh there are.
Speaker 1: It just feels weird. This is the time of year
Speaker 1: where we're trying to evaluate guys. I agree to get
Speaker 1: into the season to make sure number one they're healthy.
Speaker 1: Number two who were sending down who we're calling up.
Speaker 1: And it's like, oh, well, that one ballpark you know
Speaker 1: has it?
Speaker 2: No, I know, it's stupid.
Speaker 3: It should be a unanimous thing across all parks to
Speaker 3: have stack cast data so we could see it. But
Speaker 3: it is available on true media has like all the
Speaker 3: stuff I think.
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