1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Here's in 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: the bonus with Doug Gottlieb. 3 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 2: What up Doug Gottlieb Show in the Bonus Fox Sports Radio, 4 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. Welcome in. Well you're having a great day. 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 3: Do oh. 6 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 2: Oh h oh uh a uh It's a Doug Gottlieb 7 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 2: show on Fox Sports Radio. Hey. I was watching hockey 8 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 2: last night with my son Hayes, and we may had 9 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 2: to bring him on and discuss this and he was like, 10 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 2: we were trying to watch hockey and he's like, I 11 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: can't see the puck And I said, you know, they 12 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 2: used to have a like a tracer and like a 13 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 2: tail on it and the color would change based upon 14 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 2: how fast the puck was hit. He's like, that's awesome. 15 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: Why don't they have that now? I was like, well, 16 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 2: people complained, he said, And he said, well, people are stupid, 17 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: That's what he said. And you know what, He's right, 18 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 2: And I think back and obviously that was back when 19 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 2: Fox had the NHL they put the little tracer on 20 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 2: the puck. But man, was that genius Somewhere there's a 21 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 2: guy out there who is the guy who invented that? 22 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 2: Who was tired and feathered and told he was a 23 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 2: lesser human being than the rest of us, and we 24 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 2: all owe him a gigantic apology. Jase du do you 25 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: remember that? Do you remember when there was a tracer 26 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 2: on the puck? 27 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 4: I do? And then I have a bunch of hockey friends. 28 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 4: I have a lot of hockey friends that I make 29 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 4: fun of Kings fans and they hated it. So it 30 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 4: was that classic decision that the NHL had to make, 31 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 4: do we piss off our current fans to bring other 32 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 4: people into the tent? I mean, Baseball's face with that today, 33 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 4: and they chose their current fans. And I will say that, yes, 34 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 4: HD helped the puck thing. Standard Deaf was awful for 35 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 4: the puck. I remember when HD started to become in vogue, 36 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 4: people would be like, you gotta watch hockey on HD, 37 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 4: and so I don't know if there was a need 38 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 4: for it after that, but I do remember that time 39 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 4: and place where the NHL had to choose between their 40 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 4: pissed off fan base and bringing other people into the tent. 41 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, and. 42 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: I'm trying to think there's other decisions like that, you know, 43 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 2: where people just don't like, you know, they just don't. 44 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 2: The traditionalists don't like the change, and I'd say it 45 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 2: with baseball, the pitch clock, get rid of the shift, 46 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 2: the DH, right, the universal DH. Traditional people don't like that. 47 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,279 Speaker 2: I love the double switch. But you know what, I 48 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 2: I'm okay with doing away with the double switch if 49 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 2: I see better baseball and it's been better baseball. Were 50 00:02:58,600 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 2: you a double switch guy? 51 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 4: Oh, I'm a traditionalist. I want I wanted both leagues 52 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 4: to have pictures hitting. I thought the DH was an 53 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 4: abomination when they instituted it in the early seventies, and 54 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 4: the the Bob Costas of the world are on my 55 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 4: side on this one. Pitchers should hit, period. 56 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 2: Oh, I think pictures should hit. But again, like if 57 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 2: the if, if the desires to get better baseball, to 58 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 2: get more offense in baseball, to make baseball get baseball 59 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 2: be a better watch, would you do it? And I 60 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 2: think your answer is yes, right, despite the fact you're 61 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 2: a traditionalist. 62 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 4: Well, they did it. No, I don't know if I 63 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 4: agree with it. No, no, No, I'm not a DH guy, 64 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 4: so I'm not. I'm not coming off of that one. 65 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 2: Okay, So do you think the DH thing is akin 66 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 2: to the tracer thing? 67 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 4: Sure, that's just one of the decisions over the years 68 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 4: that baseball's made. Yeah, I think they kind of tweak 69 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 4: their their traditional fans. 70 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 2: What would get people to watch hockey more? 71 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 4: I think that I think that battle has been fought 72 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 4: and lost. 73 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 2: I know it has been again. But if I was 74 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 2: to if I was to say, if I was going 75 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 2: to a boardroom and go, hey, we're gonna do the 76 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 2: hockey discussion again, you know, I think the only things 77 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 2: I do think fighting in the regular season would bring 78 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 2: more people. And I know they fight, but the problem is, 79 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 2: you know, they're just everyone's so petrified of a dude 80 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 2: getting killed on the ice, and so the fighting, though 81 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 2: it still occurs, far more limited than it used to be. 82 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 2: I actually like where hockey is I do. I mean, like, 83 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 2: I'm kind of with Dan Byer on this and that 84 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 2: we need a Canadian team to win the Stanley Cup 85 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 2: because hockey really matters to them and it doesn't really 86 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 2: matter to us, Like no idea who won the Stanley 87 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 2: Cup last year and don't actually care, whereas if the 88 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 2: Oilers win, everybody will care. 89 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 4: Sorry, go ahead, Dan and I have been arguing about this. 90 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 4: Maybe we should carry this onto the air today because 91 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 4: I think the opposite. I don't know, why why do 92 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 4: you care about Canada get in a Stanley Cup. 93 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 2: I don't care about it. I just know that they care, 94 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 2: So why doesn't That's that's because it's at your core audience, right, there's. 95 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 4: Your core audience. 96 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 2: No, it's no, it's it's hockey's core audience. My core 97 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 2: udis doesn't care about hockey at all, exactly. I just 98 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 2: I use it as a as a jumping off point 99 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 2: for other discussions. Right that hockey over expanded to areas 100 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 2: that weren't hockey friendly and then retrieved. Yeah, and they're 101 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 2: back in probably a better but similar position to where 102 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 2: they were twenty five years ago. And that's okay, Like 103 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: there's a lot of money to be made in this lane. 104 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 2: They just can't go to the fast lane, you know. 105 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 2: They're they're like second lane drivers. If you have five 106 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 2: lanes on a road, you're going down the four five, 107 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 2: what lane are you in? 108 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 4: The fast lane? 109 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 2: Right? Far over to the left? Correct? 110 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 4: The fast lane in the United States is the right line, 111 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 4: the far right. 112 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 2: He's being sarcastic. That's that's Jason saying the opposite of 113 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 2: what's true. Okay, So why do you get in the 114 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 2: fast lane. 115 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 4: To go as fast as I can to a given destination? 116 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 2: Right, you want to get there a little bit quicker 117 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 2: chiel those steps. It's also there's an ego thing to it, 118 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 2: like nobody wants to drive in the second to the 119 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 2: right lane. The right lane, you're getting off the middle lane, 120 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 2: you're kind of no man's land. The fourth lane, you're 121 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 2: kind of like you want to be in the fast lane, 122 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 2: but you know you're not the fastest driver out there. 123 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 2: That's second from the right. That's the lane for hockey. 124 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 2: A lot of money, good solid sport. Never going to 125 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 2: be Tier one. It's okay, Lots of people in those 126 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 2: areas love hockey. They just don't talk about it on 127 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 2: sport radio. We're not going to talk about it on 128 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 2: a regular TV. We'll watch it when it's on, but 129 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 2: it's not like a point of viewing. 130 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 4: That's what we've been saying the last couple of years 131 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 4: as the NWNBA has grown supposedly and their followers and 132 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 4: their media types of compelling us that the reason why 133 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 4: we never watched this because we're sexist or racist or homophobic. 134 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 4: Like the NHL knows it's lane. It stays in its lane. 135 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 4: It doesn't accuse you of being anti Canadian, doesn't accuse 136 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 4: you of being stupid or ignorant. I love that. I 137 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 4: love that, and Dan and I rarely disagree on things, 138 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 4: but we've disagreed about two things in the last six 139 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 4: to eight weeks that have to do with each other. 140 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 4: Rory McElroy winning the Masters was something that I think 141 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 4: most golf fans were rooting for, for him to complete 142 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 4: his career grand Slam. That was the storyline, and coming 143 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 4: off of that, that was a great feel right. But 144 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 4: I'm anti that the prolonged agony makes better content for 145 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 4: me and my job. Prolonged agony Canadians not winning one 146 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 4: since ninety three is a more interesting story. It's their sport. 147 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 4: They care a lot. I like prolonged agony as it 148 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 4: pertains to my perch in this world, which is sports 149 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 4: talk content. 150 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: Guy, I do too. 151 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 2: I think, yes, I completely agree with your assessment there. 152 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 2: Golf guy is the only guy they like man Finally, Rory, 153 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 2: whereas the rest of us we love the suffering suffer 154 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 2: as much as possible, you know, And though that gift 155 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 2: of him crying and being just so elated and relieved, 156 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 2: you know, walking over to sign his scorecard is one 157 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 2: that you can use for anything. As a meme. I 158 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 2: would prefer it being that he lost yet another big 159 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 2: event that would have been better, but she nearly did. 160 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 4: By the way, So as it relates to hockey, have 161 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 4: I converted you back to rooting against the Canadian team? 162 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 6: Uh? 163 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 2: No, because I don't think it's I don't think a 164 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 2: country's prolonged agony. I don't. I see it as a 165 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 2: country's prolonged agony, not an individual or single team's prolonged agony. 166 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 5: Does that make sense? 167 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 2: H makes makes sense to me. 168 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb 169 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox 170 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 171 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 4: Lets. 172 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 2: Let's get through the Fox says and now what does 173 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 2: the Fox say every day at this time with the 174 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 2: Doug Gottliebes Show. In the Bonus podcast, we play for 175 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 2: you a previous portion of a Fox Sports Radio or 176 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 2: Fox Sports One show. Here's Colin Cowhard talking about the 177 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 2: report that there's mutual interest between Jake Kidd and the Knicks. 178 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 7: There is no way I'm leaving ballast with Cooper Flag 179 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 7: arriving from Duke. There is no oh way I'm leaving 180 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 7: cashe Nicks cash Cow, Cooper Flag. Dallas forget the state 181 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 7: tax thing, which is obviously a huge benefit. But if 182 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 7: you look at Dallas's young talent, Cooper Flag's the best 183 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 7: domestic player in a decade plus. He's gonna be twenty 184 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 7: three points next year. He's fantastic. He's Jason Tatum but aggressive. 185 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 7: If you took Jason Tatum's game and you said it's 186 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 7: eight percent better and it's more aggressive, you'd have the 187 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 7: face of the league. Cooper Flag's got the aura, He's 188 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 7: got Duke, He's got the game. The only thing he 189 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 7: doesn't have is NBA experience. So again, you can have 190 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 7: the cachet, I'll take the cash cow. Cooper Flag can 191 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 7: get out on the break. He can just say twelve 192 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 7: feet from the hall, give me the ball, I'm up 193 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 7: the floor leading the break. What a great And Jason 194 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 7: Kidd knows that kid's one of the great point guard 195 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 7: talents of all time. And Cooper Flagg will not a 196 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 7: point guard. It's a you know, six 't eight wing, 197 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 7: but he's an unbelievable transition player. So I would not 198 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 7: take that. I would not leave. 199 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 2: Deut Yeah, I don't know enough about what the new 200 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 2: Mavericks regime is like. And obviously Jim Dolan has never 201 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 2: been somebody that people have said, hey, he should rush 202 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 2: to work for him. But there is something to his 203 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 2: level of interest. It has to tell you that whatever 204 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 2: happened this year when they traded away Luka Doncik, it 205 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 2: wasn't good and you saw him kind of slowly start 206 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 2: to separate himself from from Nico, from the idea of 207 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 2: trading him, and it became just wildly unpopular. I don't 208 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 2: agree in any in any form with Collins's assessment of 209 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 2: who Cooper Flag is. He's not Jason Tatum. He's actually 210 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 2: more like Kevin Garnett, a really versatile foe man who 211 00:11:55,000 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 2: can handle pass shoot. He is only six seven in 212 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 2: bare feet. But yeah, I don't think anybody said he's 213 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 2: Jason Tatum. He's Jason Tatum's a wing he's not. But 214 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 2: he's a tremendous player. I would guess though that. You know, look, 215 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 2: getting out of the West is always seen as being easier. 216 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 2: The Knicks are a thing he wouldn't be as well 217 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 2: regarded if if Brunson wasn't into him, and I think 218 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 2: you got a really solid base of guys. And I 219 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 2: think the last part is there's a good sense that 220 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 2: if you hire Jason Kidd, it means you're trading for 221 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 2: Yannis because he previously coached Yannis. They have a relationship, 222 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,839 Speaker 2: Jannis wants to get to New York. That all makes sense. 223 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 2: So if we're looking at it now, you're like, yeah, 224 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 2: I don't know if I see it. They're like, Okay, 225 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 2: what if we threw in Yannis for calling Anthony Towns 226 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 2: and some of the other pieces, like, well, okay, that's 227 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 2: a different story. So the world is not stagnant, and 228 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 2: I think comparing it to last year would be silly. 229 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 2: There's gotta be a greater reason why j Kidd wants 230 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 2: out of Dallas. Here's Rob Parker and Kevin Washington. That's 231 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 2: the odd couple they talked about Shake Gildas Alexander. 232 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 8: Superstar is not just because you were the MVP or 233 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 8: just because you won something, do you know what I mean? 234 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 6: Like that is not what determines whether or not. 235 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 8: To me you're a superstar. It's bigger than that, and 236 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 8: it's not just on the field. It's not just or 237 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 8: on the court, you know what I mean, like just 238 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 8: putting up numbers, and it's not just winning, because there 239 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 8: are guys to me who are not one who are 240 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 8: clearly superstars. 241 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 6: And the biggest one to me, and I say, is 242 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 6: Aaron Judge. 243 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 8: Is there any doubt in your mind, Kelvin that he's 244 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 8: a superstar? No, And he hasn't won a World Series 245 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 8: and he's had his failures in the postseason and he 246 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 8: dropped the easiest fly ball to center field and probably 247 00:13:57,960 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 8: the history of mankind. 248 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 6: Damar Jackson has not won yet. 249 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 8: People are disappointed at him in the postseason, but guess what, 250 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 8: he's a superstar. So when you talk about superstars, that's 251 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 8: why I think people get caught up with the prisoner 252 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 8: of them ament. Oh, he wonted the MVP, it's about 253 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 8: to win, has a chance to win a championship and whatnot, 254 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 8: And that doesn't mean he's a great player. And this 255 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 8: good's gonna you know, if they do win it, which 256 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 8: I still don't think they will, but. 257 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 6: If he wins it, it'll it'll. 258 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 8: Be a hell of a year all the way around 259 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 8: for all the stuff that he's done. First Team All NBA. 260 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 8: I mean, there's nothing else you could ask for him 261 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 8: to do. Still, I don't think that elevates him to 262 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 8: that plateau. 263 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think SHA's a superstar just yet. He 264 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 2: has all the attributes of it, but he's if you 265 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 2: see Shake Gildess Alexander, it's not a household name, and 266 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 2: you don't even the commercial he's in with couple of 267 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 2: his teammates, with Jaylen Williams and with Chet Holmgren, Like 268 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 2: you kind of know who they are. If you're a 269 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 2: basketball person, you know who they are. But superstar means 270 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 2: mainstream people know who they are. You just don't. You 271 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 2: just don't. And what happens is people think it's a 272 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 2: knock on your game for example, or how you're playing 273 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 2: or whatever like has nothing to do with that. It 274 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 2: just has to do with what resonates with non hardcore 275 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 2: basketball people, non hardcore basketball people. This is la Our 276 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 2: Arrington talking about the Browns and Shador. 277 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 9: If I am the head coach the GM and the 278 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 9: owner of this team, I'm naming Shador Sanders my starter 279 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 9: to day to day. You know why Joe Flacco love 280 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 9: you to death? You gave us a good, good, good 281 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 9: little run. You're a raven, Kick Rocks, can you Pickett? 282 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 9: You ain't showing us that you that good at all? 283 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 9: You hear for an insurance policy, Kick Rocks, Dylan Gabriel. 284 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 9: We took you with the third pick, third round pick. 285 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 9: We feel really good about what you could possibly be. 286 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 9: But do we ever see you as a starter. I 287 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 9: don't know. It's a strong possibility that you're not a 288 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 9: starter for our franchise. 289 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 4: It's a very strong possibility. 290 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 9: But my goodness, you probably can be a really really 291 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 9: good backup for us at some point in time. If 292 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 9: I'm the Cleveland Browns. If you're looking at the coverage 293 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 9: of Shador Sanders and the way all of this is 294 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 9: is kind of being being properly placed on the table, 295 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 9: you about to get served. 296 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 4: If you don't see this coming. 297 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I think the deal with Shador, we have 298 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 2: no idea what's going on with him and his level 299 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 2: of competency. You have two other guys, Hill Flack obviously 300 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 2: super sperienced. Can he Pickett experienced? And we'll see how 301 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 2: he fits in. The big thing is like first you 302 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 2: have to just make the team. That's the thing. Just 303 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 2: make the team and see how that goes and for 304 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 2: that week, no matter how well he's played. Now, it 305 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 2: doesn't matter until they start getting live and they start 306 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 2: really competing, getting aftured, he starts getting hit and we 307 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 2: see some complexities of the game come in. That's what 308 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 2: the Fox said. 309 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb 310 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox 311 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 1: Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 312 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 2: I'll find out who are what is annoying? Jason Stewart. 313 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 1: And now it's your annoying. 314 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 4: Hey, Doug. I'm gonna play a piece of sound now, 315 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 4: but before I do that, I need to say something annoying. 316 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 4: But it's very side baseball. This is very much taking 317 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:07,719 Speaker 4: the listener behind the curtain. Annoying is being sent sound, 318 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 4: rushing sound onto the air, not screening the sound, and 319 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 4: jeopardizing the job of the board op, which is what 320 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 4: happened yesterday when we tried to play this sound from 321 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 4: Lebron again to the listener. I didn't screen the sound 322 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 4: before I put it on the air. That's on me. 323 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 4: We rushed it, put it on the air, and Ryan 324 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 4: Smith's job was compromised for a few seconds. 325 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 5: I've never got involved with my kids coaches. 326 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 3: From Brinnie growing up to where he is now and Bryce, 327 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 3: you know, on his way to Tucson, Arizona. 328 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 5: I've never got involved. I've never went. 329 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 3: To a practice and sat through practice the whole time 330 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 3: and see how my sound was being utilized. I've never 331 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 3: got on the phone with the coaches. Listen, he's there, 332 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 3: coach my son, coach from hiwerever you want to and 333 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 3: I think you need to hold him accountable. I hope 334 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 3: you hold him more accountable than any other kid here, 335 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 3: you know, and say what the fuck you need to say, 336 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 3: no matter you know, no matter how it's being said, 337 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 3: because it's not sometimes it's not. If you could just 338 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 3: take the message and not about how he's saying, just 339 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 3: take the message out of it, you know. 340 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 5: I think that builds character as well, you. 341 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 3: Know, And I think it's part of the reason why 342 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 3: they are where they are at this their stages in 343 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 3: their lives. 344 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 5: You know, baby and your kid and always you. 345 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 3: Know, thinking that your kid is this, and think of 346 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 3: your kid is that, and not allowing coaches to coach them, 347 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 3: or not allowing people to be hard on them. And 348 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 3: as soon as a coach or someone says something to them, 349 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 3: you pull them and go somewhere else, or you know, 350 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 3: or as soon as someone says something bad about your kid. 351 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 5: You're the first person to go talking to his face. 352 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 5: It's like you fucking go coaching it. 353 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't when I when I sent you that sound, 354 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 2: I didn't even hear. I didn't hear the f BOM. 355 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 2: I just heard the first part to it. So that's 356 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 2: on me as well. But I I thought the Aaron 357 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 2: An thing you're talking about, he's annoying because he's a hypocrite, right, I. 358 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 4: Just don't believe a word he says. Ever, that's the problem. 359 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 4: He's cried rule so many times. 360 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 2: Right and again he's directly contradicted himself with how he's 361 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 2: handled Bronnie and how he's handled Bryce like he he 362 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 2: created Bronni's AAU team, which again he has the power 363 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 2: to do. I mean, look, I did the same thing 364 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 2: for my son, So I'm not sitting here. But but 365 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 2: the other thing I'm doing is I'm not criticizing people 366 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 2: for it. You know, He's like, yeah, I didn't. I 367 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 2: didn't change programs. It was your program. How are you 368 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 2: going to change your son into your program? I didn't 369 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 2: change coaches. Yes, you did. You coached the team in 370 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 2: some big events, and so did Rondo. Like what are 371 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 2: you even talking about? Honestly, Jason, Like, what the fuck 372 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 2: is he even talking about? 373 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know, just sitting. 374 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,479 Speaker 2: There going like, yeah, I'm he's like making himself out 375 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 2: to be this incredible aau parent, Like, hey, weren't you 376 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 2: the dude that hopped into lay uplines is dunking right 377 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 2: like and again I don't really care, but let's not 378 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 2: You're you're sitting there acting like you're taking the high 379 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 2: road and that you're just I've seen really good parents. 380 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:28,959 Speaker 2: There's a guy, Russ Turner is the head coach at Ucrvine, Okay, 381 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 2: and U Syrvine has been really good. I think he's 382 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:37,719 Speaker 2: a winning His Coachervin's ever had and Russ's son. I 383 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 2: think he's going to Bayola. He's going to one of 384 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 2: the Division three schools in southern California. And Russ was 385 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 2: a great I think it was Division three, could have 386 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 2: been Division two. He was a Division three player in 387 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 2: Virginia growing up. Okay, and he was a guy who 388 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 2: was lightly recruited late Bloomer and then became like a 389 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 2: two thousand points scorer in college. His son, I don't 390 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 2: think his son will will develop into that, but son's 391 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 2: a great kid. He would come to a practice and 392 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 2: I coached him for a couple of years and he 393 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 2: would open up his newspaper, read his newspaper, occasionally sit 394 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 2: there across his legs, and then when they were done, 395 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 2: there dead nothing like. He was literally the perfect AU parent. 396 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 2: Just as long as you're coaching right, long as you're 397 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 2: not mfing him up and down, you can get on 398 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,199 Speaker 2: to him. I'm never gonna say a word. I was 399 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 2: so blown away by Russ Turner and what we was 400 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 2: like Lebron again not the worst au parent in the world, 401 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 2: didn't get in a fight with the ref, but uh, 402 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 2: you know, getting in the dunk lines, causing a scene, 403 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 2: creating your own AAU team, coaching the team yourself. Stop it, dude, 404 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 2: who else annoying you this? 405 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 5: Uh? 406 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 4: This next one first comes with an exercise. I just 407 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 4: need you to be concise what quickly comes to mind 408 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 4: on this What in your mind is a sports rivalry? 409 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 4: How do you define it? 410 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 2: It feels like a team that you play against every year, 411 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 2: and the game means more than most other teams you 412 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 2: play any year. So I think the most loosely defined 413 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 2: rivalry you can think of. 414 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 4: Perfect. So the Dodgers played the Padres last night. Great game, 415 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 4: watched every pitch, and I really enjoy it. I like 416 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 4: Dodgers and Padres because in my mind, it's kind of 417 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 4: a It's a team that does things the right way 418 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,959 Speaker 4: against a team that does things the wrong way. If 419 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 4: you want to simplify that matchup the last couple of years. Uh, 420 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 4: the manager of the Podres is Mike Shilt. Now I 421 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 4: mistakenly called a Mike shit when when I was quizzed 422 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,360 Speaker 4: on who the manager was recently on the air, Mike 423 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 4: Shilt said this about the Dodgers Padres. 424 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 10: You know relatives. I even red. I get it completely. 425 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 10: At the stadium is gonna be rocking. It's gonna be fantastic. 426 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 10: I appreciate the heightened awareness to what likely is the 427 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 10: best rivalry in baseball as far as what to look for, 428 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 10: You're gonna look to see good, hard nosed baseball and 429 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 10: us getting after it and as hard as we can 430 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 10: at every turn. 431 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 4: Here's the crazy thing about it being the best rivalry 432 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 4: in baseball. It's not a rivalry. According to the Dodgers 433 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 4: Red Sox Yankees are probably the best Red Sox. I mean, 434 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 4: Dodgers Giants are the rivalry. They go back to the 435 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 4: days and back in the borough. Dodger fans don't consider 436 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 4: it a rivalry. Padres fans do. And that's why I 437 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 4: asked you how you define rivalry? If if only one 438 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 4: side considers it a rivalry, then it's not a rivalry. 439 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 4: I think the Padres won the regular season series last year, 440 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 4: and they beat the Dodgers in the postseason two postseasons 441 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 4: to go. But other than that, what if the Padres 442 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 4: ever done to even come close to what the Dodgers 443 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 4: have accomplished. And if you don't believe me, how about 444 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 4: our third base went Max Munsey, which I helped turned 445 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 4: them around at the plate. 446 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 2: You're you're amazing, Yeah, Maxims, I'll tell you yeah. I 447 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 2: think the Dodgers are the Padres nemesis. I think the 448 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 2: Giants are the Dodgers rival. Here's Max. 449 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 11: The Padres bring everything that is in a rivalry, but 450 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 11: you only have one rival. I don't like when people 451 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 11: say you have rivals. I just think if you have 452 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,199 Speaker 11: a rival, it's your you know, it's your counterpart. And 453 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 11: that's always going to be the Giants for the Dodgers 454 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 11: at least, and it's always going to be the Red 455 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 11: Sots for the for the Yankees. People always made the 456 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 11: argument that the Astros and Yankees had a good rivalry going, 457 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 11: and it's like, that's true, but you only have one rival. 458 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 11: And so for me, like I said, the Padres bring 459 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 11: everything that a rivalry brings. For me, your rival is 460 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 11: just one team. You don't have multiple teams as your rival. 461 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, so take that, Padre fans, including Daniel Jeremiah, you 462 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 4: are not our rival, no matter how much you tried 463 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 4: to be the little the pesky, little little brother, my agitator. 464 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,919 Speaker 4: Two things that I can't stand, Doug. Two things people 465 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 4: that judge other people for how they express affection and 466 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 4: the Dutch and mouth kissers. This is a mont Saint 467 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 4: Brown talking about mouth kissing. 468 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 12: I kiss my dad and lives growing up until I 469 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 12: would say, what like until I got to high school. 470 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 12: M hmm. But then in high school I think a 471 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,239 Speaker 12: few times I kiss him on the lips, like when 472 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 12: I what was it when I graduated? I think when 473 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 12: I committed So a lot of people think it's weird. 474 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 12: I kiss my mom when the lips too. I kissed 475 00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 12: my brother's on the lips when I was growing up. 476 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 12: My day I made us do it so we get 477 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 12: in fights, and then after the fight was over, he 478 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 12: would make us kiss each other on the lift. 479 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 5: I didn't have to fight sometimes, just kiss. That was 480 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 5: gonna be my plan. 481 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 4: If you try to beat my ass, I was going. 482 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 5: To kiss you, but not. 483 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 12: My dad made us do it, So I think, I mean, 484 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 12: it's not a thing I think in America really, but yeah, 485 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 12: I think it's a I mean Germany, it's kind of normal. 486 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 5: So it was normal for me growing up. 487 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 4: So this was a topic. I remember when the Tom 488 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 4: Brady documentary came out because he did a full mouth 489 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 4: kiss on his uh like preteen son, and it became 490 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,719 Speaker 4: a discussion like when when do you when do you 491 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 4: stop w lip kissing your your sons? I have a son, 492 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 4: you have a son, Like I remember at an early age, 493 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 4: it went from my lips and then at some point 494 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 4: it transferred to cheeks, and then it goes to forehead. 495 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 4: Now he won't even wet my lips even close to him, 496 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 4: But like, how and when do you get to the 497 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 4: point where you're an adult giving mouth kisses to your dad. 498 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know. I don't I think 499 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 2: I do forehead and occasionally, you know, forehead kiss with 500 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 2: my kids once they get out of the mouth kissing 501 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 2: was like till five or whatever. So yeah, I think 502 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 2: four head. I don't know, I don't know. I don't 503 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 2: know how that's okay. 504 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 5: With it. 505 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, so adult mouth kissers team, the word rivalry being 506 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 4: used way too loosely, and then Lebron James gibberish about 507 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 4: how he lets coaches coach our. 508 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 2: Kids mouth kissing. Mouth kissing uncomfortable. 509 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: And annoy Why are we doing this? 510 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 7: I do. 511 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: Because we can. 512 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 4: Now I have to admit to you, I've paid little 513 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 4: attention to the WNBA since Caitlin Kark has been injured. 514 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 4: Just coming back this week Kelsey Plumb, remember she was 515 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 4: on the Aces, they were pretty good team. She was 516 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 4: traded to the Sparks. But Kelsey Plum did something last 517 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 4: night that you don't even see in like real sports, 518 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 4: like the top three sports, you have a player basically 519 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 4: motherfuckering the officials in a postgame press conference. I don't 520 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 4: know if that sounds great, but this is this is 521 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 4: just very rare, and I kind of have to give 522 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 4: her a credit for doing it. 523 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 13: So to shoot six three dogs is fucking absurd. And 524 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 13: I got scratched on my face, I got scratched on 525 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 13: my body, and these guards on the other team get 526 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 13: these tiki tag fowls, and I'm sick of it. I 527 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 13: get voulied that every possession Raki is fouling that in 528 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,959 Speaker 13: the post all the time and they don't call it, 529 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 13: and I don't know what else to do, Like it's 530 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 13: really frustrating though. I mean, there's multiple shots at the 531 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 13: end of the game, either go into the third into 532 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 13: the fourth where they're just coming in and fucking swinging and 533 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 13: they just don't call anything. 534 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 5: And I don't understand how that's. 535 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 13: Six free tos. I'm playing forty minutes touching the paint 536 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 13: almost every play. Is absurd. It is absurd, And so 537 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 13: I'm saying, like I'll get fine for that, and that's fine, 538 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 13: but I mean, and I needed to make more shots 539 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 13: like late game, but I mean, they're founding. 540 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 5: This shit out of me every single play. 541 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,959 Speaker 13: So I'm very frustrated with that and I'm sick of it. 542 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 13: I'm sick of it. I don't know what I need 543 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 13: to do. I talk to the rest of NICE, I 544 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 13: pray before the game, like fuck, I'm over it. 545 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 2: That's a great piece of sound. That was so good. 546 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 2: I've just become a fan. I've just become a fan. 547 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 2: I'm so in Why do we play it for you? 548 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 2: Because we can't. That's it for the ind The Batus Podcast. 549 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 2: I got the radio show every day three to six Eastern, 550 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 2: twelve two Pacific, Foxport Radio. iHeartRadio App'm Doug Ali.