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Speaker 2: This was the weirdest experience in my life. It was

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Speaker 2: so it was weird like I had never seen Boybe's

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Speaker 3: That's what it felt like.

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Speaker 2: I was like, what show is this?

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Speaker 4: Who are we who? Like?

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Speaker 2: It was like I'd never seen the show before. Going

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Speaker 3: It's like going from mash to tears, It's like two

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Speaker 3: different shows. Did you guys remember this episode?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yes, I kind of did remember the episode, but it

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Speaker 3: Oh God, Rider year. First of all, Sean is so

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Speaker 3: different as and your comedy is great. You're like the kid,

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Speaker 3: best friend, wacky sitcom guy in this episode. I did

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Speaker 3: It was the strangest experience watching this episode. This was

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Speaker 3: what in the podcast world a year and a half

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Speaker 2: Something like that might as well have been a different lifetime.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what exactly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Blame's World is so weird, like the scale of

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Speaker 2: Like what is happening? There's no none of where it.

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Speaker 2: And then Adam Scott is like the entire episode and

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Speaker 2: phenomenal character entry, But why are we spending all this

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Speaker 2: time on this time exactly.

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Speaker 1: That's one of the things we talked about when we

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Speaker 2: It's like they didn't trust us to carry the show.

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Speaker 2: It's like it's like it's like the writers and producers

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Speaker 2: like the bullies, uh Adam Scott, like they were desperate

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Speaker 1: Where are the stars?

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Speaker 3: It's like it's a show.

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Speaker 3: The idea that it was that and we kept getting

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Speaker 1: And yet I love the episode, like if you if

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Speaker 1: So welcome to Pod meets World.

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Speaker 3: I'm Daniel Fishl, I'm Rider Strong, and I thankfully got better.

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Speaker 3: I'm Wilfredell.

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Speaker 1: We are thrilled to welcome back our absolute favorite line

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Speaker 1: reader in Boy Meets World history. When it comes to

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Speaker 1: is our all time leader. We've been lucky enough to

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Speaker 1: part of our beloved Bully gang, and he has selected

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Speaker 1: the season two episode pop Quiz to chat about. So

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Speaker 1: welcome back, Joseph, Joey, the Rat Epstein, Blake Senate.

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Speaker 4: Just like that, Yeah, just like that. Boom, everyone, all

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Speaker 3: So good to see you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming back. We will we

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Speaker 4: So I'm a recurring character. I mean, you know, Bod

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Speaker 1: We love you so much. We will bring you back

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Speaker 1: even seasons after your character has left. We asked you

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Speaker 1: to select any episode of Boy Meets World to talk about,

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Speaker 1: and you selected the episode Pop Quiz, which is the

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Speaker 1: twentieth episode of season two. It aired originally on March tenth,

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety five. And now we know you've never really

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Speaker 1: seen an episode of Boy Meets World before we asked

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Speaker 4: You're not wrong, I have not really seen epis.

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Speaker 2: And when we had you on the podcast before, did

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Speaker 2: Did you watch Boy Meets World when you came back on?

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Speaker 2: When you came on our podcast the first time. No, no,

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Speaker 2: so why did you pick this episode? Well, no, I

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Speaker 4: is like not only like kids, but like we're all kids,

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Speaker 4: but you Danielle and Ryder and Ben were like kid

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Speaker 3: No good or please.

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Speaker 1: That's been our entire experiences.

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Speaker 2: Now, going back and watching season two, I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I want to hear your experience, Blake, like, what what

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to talk about what you thought of

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Speaker 4: think part of the frustration as an actor for me,

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00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 4: probably for all actors, but some of the higher tolerance

439
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 4: for it is that you're not really in control of

440
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 4: your own destiny in that way. Right you're waiting around

441
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 4: for the phone to ring, and you're you know, and

442
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 4: you're sort of like your best friends, we're best friends,

443
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:39,880
Speaker 4: and then you're like, huh, I don't know that person

444
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 4: at all anymore. And it was weird. And so music,

445
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 4: I think he was easier for me to have best

446
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 4: friends and not and not lose them, even if I

447
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 4: you know, they're both a lotto ticket. They're both you

448
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 4: just sit lay up and bed and dream about, you know,

449
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,679
Speaker 4: the coolest in the world. So why not pick the

450
00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,880
Speaker 4: one that you like more? And I think that that's

451
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,719
Speaker 4: I liked music. I think I was transitioning out of acting,

452
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 4: and I think Boy Meets the World was the last

453
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 4: of my acting. I really that was it for me

454
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 4: after Boy Meets World. And I think right around that

455
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,679
Speaker 4: time I had done enough Boy Meets the World that

456
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 4: I had been stopped on the street. I don't know

457
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 4: if I mentioned this to you guys last time, did I?

458
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 1: I don't think so.

459
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 4: No.

460
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 5: No.

461
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 4: So I was stopped on the street a few times,

462
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,120
Speaker 4: you know, and it was like, Oh, you're the thing.

463
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,199
Speaker 4: You're that guy like to do the funny thing, you know,

464
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,400
Speaker 4: and that's cool, Like that's not that's not like upsetting

465
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,400
Speaker 4: or anything. But like I was like, I don't think

466
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 4: I wanted to be be that. You know, you know,

467
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 4: I don't think I want to be like well well

468
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 4: well or whatever. You know.

469
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: Liiation behind that? What was was there a specific like

470
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: New York inspiration or voice that you were that you

471
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:51,880
Speaker 1: were trying to do.

472
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 4: Dude, the answer is not romantic. It's you don't you don't.

473
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 1: Want to me a romantic answer. I just want the true.

474
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 3: As long as you ca it's fine.

475
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 4: Yeah right at the end, I'm gonna I'm gonna cry,

476
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 4: but for now to pay it off for real. It

477
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 4: was like, you're gonna hate this answer. I don't know

478
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 4: if the world should hear this answer. At that time,

479
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 4: I had started to care less and less about acting,

480
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 4: and I told my manager and I may have mentioned

481
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 4: this on another episode. I told my manager and she

482
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 4: hated this. I said, please send me only for I

483
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 4: can like wipe the other dudes out on like I

484
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 4: want to go up against one liners. I only want

485
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 4: to make money. I only want easy. Yeah, that's like

486
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 4: the worst thing you can say to a manager, like,

487
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 4: and it's like not romantic. But I got to that

488
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 4: audition and I did what I always do, which is

489
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 4: I grabbed the stides and I went and they went blake,

490
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 4: and I went, oh wait, and so I just did

491
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 4: it and that's what came out, you know, was that

492
00:25:58,960 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 4: is that?

493
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 1: I do?

494
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 3: I love it.

495
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 1: I love that.

496
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 3: No, I can attest to the fact that that is

497
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 3: not true.

498
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was no great there was no great thought

499
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 4: to any of it.

500
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 1: Do you you suffer from imposter syndrome?

501
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 2: Of course, of course I do.

502
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,360
Speaker 3: Ye do you mean imposter?

503
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:22,360
Speaker 4: Oh you are?

504
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,919
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, But I think acting is a lot of that.

505
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 2: I know, I mean because I felt the same way.

506
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 4: It was like, wh the.

507
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 3: Last time you met a secure actor? I mean, it

508
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 3: just doesn't that doesn't exist. I mean, we're all imposts.

509
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 3: We all think we shouldn't be there because it is

510
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 3: such a Why do you pick me over the nineteen

511
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,679
Speaker 3: other guys waiting in the room that looked exactly the

512
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 3: same as me? Why did I not get picked for

513
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 3: the I'm not supposed to be here. I am supposed

514
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 3: to be here. I deserve to be here. I don't

515
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 3: deserve nobody's secure in this business. It's awful and wonderful

516
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 3: and amazing and the worst thing ever.

517
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I mean, it's it is just interesting because,

518
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 1: like I think, I'm I'm obviously the only person who

519
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 1: had actually the total opposite experience, which was I had

520
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 1: no idea why I got the job, but I assumed, well,

521
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: the fact that I got the job meant that I

522
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: must be best for the job, and I feel so

523
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: like at the time that I was doing it, although

524
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: I felt very unsure that it was going to last,

525
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,959
Speaker 1: like especially in those first couple of seasons, feeling like

526
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 1: I replaced somebody so I could very easily be replaced,

527
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 1: but also knowing that like I felt at the time,

528
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: like Topanga was a big part of the show, and

529
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 1: so I then started to feel confident, like, well, how

530
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,199
Speaker 1: would they do? What would they do without Tapega? So

531
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 1: then I felt like I had a little bit of

532
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 1: job security. And then not watching the show for decades,

533
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: after knowing what an impact Corey and Topanga had on

534
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 1: the culture and the way it was framed as feeling

535
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 1: like it was such an important part of the show,

536
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: I then came to the rewatch thinking well, I must

537
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 1: be good at what I do and I'm a very

538
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: big part of the show. And then we watched the

539
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: show and I'm like, I suck and I'm barely in it.

540
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 1: So for me was actually it was the polar opposite experience,

541
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: where now I have imposter syndrome about the idea that

542
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 1: I never should have been allowed in there, and I

543
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: don't know why people remember me.

544
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 3: I don't think I gotta be fired.

545
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 4: It works, but I don't. I don't feel that way though,

546
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 4: Like I didn't feel imposter syndrome at the time. In

547
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 4: general in my life, do I feel like imposter syndrome,

548
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:29,239
Speaker 4: Like of course, like that's the only way I've ever

549
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 4: done anything is way out over my skis, Like if

550
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 4: I the her first house I ever flipped, I was like,

551
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 4: I don't have a contractor, I don't have the money,

552
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 4: I don't know what I'm doing, and I bought the

553
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 4: house anyway. So acting was like that for me too.

554
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 4: But it wasn't like I was on set going I

555
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 4: shouldn't be here. It was actually on set going. If

556
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 4: I'm honest, I was probably on set going it's not

557
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 4: cool enough for me. Yeah, right, you know, And maybe

558
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 4: that's lame, but like that, like I feel weird, like

559
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 4: even saying that it was like isn't true, you know,

560
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 4: But at the time, I think.

561
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 2: Dude, that's the way we That's the way I felt.

562
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 2: That's right, you know, we totally because because you know,

563
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 2: we had different taste. We were teenagers who wanted to

564
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 2: be in cool stuff, right, you know, like.

565
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 3: What I thought was cool back.

566
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 2: Then, Like I like doing a kids show, what was

567
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 2: essentially you know, it felt like a kids show, uh

568
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 2: if it was aimed at younger people than us.

569
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 4: Like I just.

570
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 2: Remember thinking like you know, and now I look at

571
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 2: it and go, this is great that there isn't a

572
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 2: great TV show.

573
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: And like they actually wanted to be in basketball diaries.

574
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 3: That was right.

575
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 4: My friends were My friends were in those shows. Yeah, yeah, right,

576
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 4: I mean, and I totally agree with you looking back now,

577
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 4: you know, and sort of like I think also in

578
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 4: the public discourse, there's this whole idea of gratitude, and

579
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 4: I think, you know, in general, I think we think

580
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 4: more in those terms these days than we used to.

581
00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 4: But but like naturally that's happened for me anyway, And yeah,

582
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 4: looking back, I go, what how cool is this? I've

583
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 4: been an actor, I've been a house flipper, I've been

584
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 4: a musician musician, so like I've been all those things,

585
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 4: and I go like, wow, you know man like, but

586
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 4: like I've been so like karmically blessed or whatever you

587
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 4: want to call it, that I look back and go,

588
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 4: like what I was just like skating through doing like

589
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 4: so I didn't feel at the time imposter syndrome that

590
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 4: I could put a finger two so much as it

591
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 4: was me and Ethan back in the and even Adam

592
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 4: became part of that you know, little cabal looking looking

593
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 4: Bokowski oh like you know, but yeah, I mean I

594
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 4: think part of what I loved about not that you asked,

595
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 4: but part of what I loved about this particular pop

596
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 4: Quiz episode and what I remembered why I like I

597
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 4: remembered doing it. It was because Ethan and I were

598
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 4: sort of always in the stable with like you know,

599
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 4: Corey and and Sean, you know, but we were the

600
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 4: age of Will and and you know Marsden is this

601
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 4: name Jason on the show?

602
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 3: Was Jason?

603
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 4: Was Jason? What was his name of the show?

604
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 3: Character who's on first?

605
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 4: Totally? Yeah, like so there was something fun about this

606
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 4: episode because if there's like a if there was a

607
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 4: you know, being John Malkovich where you sort of step

608
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 4: through the portal into something whoa totally weird for our characters.

609
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 4: It was this you know, and and for you know,

610
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 4: and I didn't make it a secret. On the last time.

611
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 4: I was like a big fan of Will, of what

612
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 4: you were doing. I thought you were like, you know,

613
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 4: I said this on the last episode that you were

614
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 4: just like tiny wise, so money like and and so

615
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 4: playing with you was something that seemed fun to us.

616
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 4: And it and again it had that you know, down

617
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 4: the rabbit hole energy to it where you end with

618
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 4: Griff who also Adam. I remember, he's like, he's like

619
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 4: we all with with hindsight know what Adam Scott is.

620
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 4: But he in meeting him for the very first time

621
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 4: and it was his very first episode of anything ever.

622
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 4: He was like cool, but he was also a little bizarre,

623
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 4: like he had a weird way of like his mouth

624
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 4: and his chin, you know, and and he's just kind

625
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 4: of weird. And I was like, oh, this dude's cool,

626
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 4: Like I like this dude. He's like and he was

627
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 4: funny behind scenes. He had the sort of same as

628
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 4: Ethan and I cynical but gentle sense of irony. And

629
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 4: so I don't know, that episode was special for me.

630
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 4: I felt like I got to be a little more

631
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 4: of like an actor than a than a than a

632
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 4: prop or than a right you know, like, like I

633
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 4: watched it. There was an episode where I actually did

634
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 4: that with my mouth, and I think they told me

635
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 4: to do that, and I was like, yeah, that's why,

636
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 4: that's why I was, you know, like being squeaky is

637
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 4: only fun for so long, you know, I know, I

638
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 4: get it. I don't know. Yah.

639
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, what you were saying, I think

640
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 3: you can count on one hand the number of teenagers

641
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 3: or people in their early twenties that you meet that

642
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 3: actually appreciate what they're going through at that time in

643
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 3: their life. Yeah, nobody does. When you're that age. You

644
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 3: just don't. So you know, it's the people that can

645
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 3: never go back and look at it and appreciate it

646
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 3: that have the problem. I think we can all look

647
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 3: back and be like, yeah, I wish, I wish I

648
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 3: experienced it maybe a little differently while I was there.

649
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 3: But that's how everybody does. That's that's life. You're never

650
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 3: you're never looking at the day you're in. You're always

651
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 3: looking at the next day hoping it's going to be better.

652
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 3: And that's just not how it works.

653
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, at least not for a dude like me. You know,

654
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 4: I run across those kids. You know, I live in

655
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 4: the South now and there's these like kids with these

656
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 4: very square gentle families who you know that was me?

657
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 3: Actually I was that guy. I was the square gentle

658
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 3: family and I just wanted to be on a sitcom.

659
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 3: So it was like I loved it. But most people

660
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 3: just don't do that, you know.

661
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 4: Question for you, do you do you ever feel like

662
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 4: you how you look back and go, well, like I

663
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 4: was pretty pretty good, Like I'm pretty good at this,

664
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 4: but I have this sort of anxiety thing. Do you

665
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 4: ever think about dusting off the roverbial jersey and going like,

666
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 4: what if I could get my head around the anxiety

667
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 4: and and dig around?

668
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean definitely, of course I didn't for years,

669
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 3: And it wasn't really until I started the conventions and

670
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 3: then started the podcast again that that feeling came back,

671
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 3: and then it really came back. And now I just

672
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 3: feel like a race horse's gate won't open, so I

673
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 3: feel like I'm just kind of like slamming against the gate.

674
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 3: And this is a problem.

675
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 2: With being an actor, is that you're still at the

676
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 2: mercy of the jibs, like you can't. You can't just

677
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 2: go act right now, like you want to write, Like

678
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 2: you can do it and you can see you have

679
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 2: the talent and you're ready to go, but you need

680
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 2: a context. Yeah, that's the problem with acting. It's like

681
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 2: it's not like musicians being a musician where you can

682
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 2: just like play, you could just record something.

683
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 3: You like, you haven't had an agent in over fifteen years,

684
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 3: and I have agencies that refuse to sign me. So

685
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 3: it's like you can't even get represented anymore at certain times.

686
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 3: And there's people like, dude, you're famous, Like it doesn't that

687
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 3: doesn't matter. The business doesn't know what it is anymore.

688
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 3: So it's weird.

689
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 4: I went and shot and directed this little horror film

690
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 4: like over the last year, and like and I was,

691
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 4: I was, well, i'll tell you more, but to our

692
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,720
Speaker 4: point here, you know, you end up on setting there's

693
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 4: these kids and you know you're trying to direct them

694
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 4: and they and so I end up. You know, you

695
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 4: end up you shouldn't, but these you just have to.

696
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 4: The time is like so short that you got to

697
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 4: give some line readings, you got to show exactly the blocking.

698
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 4: And there was a moment or two that I was

699
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 4: doing that, and then this kid took me aside. You know,

700
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 4: it's really handsome, you know, horror movie kid, you know,

701
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 4: and he says, you know, man, listen, you're a good

702
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 4: acting man. You ever tried acting? You're like really good

703
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 4: at it, you know, because and I was like, that's

704
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 4: nice to hear. Thanks, man, that's really sweet. And I

705
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 4: was like, oh, like now that I have the benefit of, like, yeah,

706
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 4: no knowing what acting is? Yeah, which is what Like

707
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 4: in preparing for this movie, I had to go research

708
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 4: what acting was, right, and I learned something I never

709
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 4: read before that, like Meisner says that acting is the

710
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 4: act of being in extraordinary circumstances. So this is what

711
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 4: I would regurgititate to all the kids. No one ever

712
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 4: said that to me once. Not once did anyone ever

713
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 4: say yet, just be you, but like, what would you

714
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 4: do in this situation? Not once people were like, yeah,

715
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 4: do the joy they're act that's what you gotta do,

716
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 4: you know, which was cool too, But I could have

717
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 4: found the me within that, you know what I mean.

718
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 4: But no one ever was like, tell me an act.

719
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 4: I didn't know what acting was. It just saw I

720
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,439
Speaker 4: was running as fast as I could along thin ice

721
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 4: to go as far as I could, as fast as.

722
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 2: But also generationally where we were at I felt I

723
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 2: would roll my eyes if somebody took acting too seriously.

724
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 2: When we were on Boy Meets World, like real actors

725
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 2: who like talked about what their motivation. We would laugh

726
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 2: at those people like I, I didn't want to be

727
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 2: which is ridiculous.

728
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: You cared, yes, take your crafts here?

729
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 3: What are you doing?

730
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 2: Like I literally didn't have a concept of what acting

731
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 2: was in my thirties. I took a real acting class

732
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 2: and I worked with this teacher and it was like

733
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 2: for the first time asking myself, like what.

734
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 3: Do I what do I think this is?

735
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 2: This is a crazy art form, but like that's weird,

736
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 2: like that we were at the the you know, a

737
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,919
Speaker 2: very successful place in a career where we actually didn't

738
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 2: take what we were doing seriously like that, but we

739
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 2: were kids.

740
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 3: Would kids take anything seriously ever, no matter what it is.

741
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 3: Kids are so resilient that whatever you do just becomes normalized.

742
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 3: So Gida said every day that was just normal. That

743
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 3: was just like that's what I do.

744
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 4: I mean, But point will, no one invited him to

745
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 4: you know what I mean?

746
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 3: I mean, for us.

747
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 4: Okay, so he did, but no one ever was like,

748
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 4: what's Julie the Red like really like? And so with

749
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 4: my kids, I was like, listen, like, what would that

750
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 4: be like for you to get stabbed to death in

751
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 4: a bathroom? What would that really actually be like? Not

752
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 4: like what the would you think about? Who would you

753
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 4: call out for?

754
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: Like?

755
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 4: You know? And maybe that's but.

756
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 3: That's why that's why English actors, Australian actors, that's why

757
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 3: they're so much better than us, especially at a younger age,

758
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 3: is because even at that age, that's what they're taught.

759
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 3: You're an actor. It doesn't matter that you're ten or eleven.

760
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 3: That's why Bill Daniels was so good because as a child,

761
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 3: when he was a child actor, it was still kind

762
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 3: of about the acting. By the time we were acting,

763
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 3: it was about more about being the celebrity and more

764
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 3: about being in magazines, and it was about being popular.

765
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 3: It wasn't about being an actor. So that I mean,

766
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 3: I think, and I think it's come back. I think

767
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,240
Speaker 3: now it's more about being an actor for the younger generation,

768
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 3: but it's still yeah, it was we were You're right,

769
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 3: though we were never taught that or or meant to

770
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 3: hit your mark, hit your beat, get your laugh, smile,

771
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 3: and and you know, walk away, and that's yeah, you're right.

772
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 4: And it's probably will more than anything, just the culture

773
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 4: of what the product we're making, like like on Basketball

774
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 4: Diaries or whatever. I don't think they were saying that.

775
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 4: I think it was like, let's go through it, and

776
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 4: so we just you know, we spun the wheel and

777
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 4: we landed on boy Meet's world, which had its own magic,

778
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 4: but it wasn't like, hey, let's get stabbed to death

779
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 4: for real and path.

780
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it is. It bought me to This is

781
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,439
Speaker 3: one of the best versions of what it is, if

782
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 3: that makes sense. Yeah, and that's you know, we that

783
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 3: was our lane.

784
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: So you're now you're looking to Eric as a new

785
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: gang leader. Basically you're dressing like him to win him over.

786
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:32,280
Speaker 1: Mentioning the Lbean catalog, do you remember this wardrobe fitting

787
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 1: and like, do you remember talks around the clothes and

788
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 1: were you excited? Like was it fun?

789
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:42,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was wonderful. It was so fun. This is amazing, Like, yeah,

790
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 4: it was the best. It was like we got to

791
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 4: go down the rabbit hole and it looked weird and

792
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 4: looked incredible and yeah, it's the best.

793
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys in your pink with the sweaters

794
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: around the shoulders.

795
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 3: It was that though. Susan even said, she's like, you

796
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 3: could carve cheese with those pleats.

797
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: I look at the pleats on your hands.

798
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 3: My god, you could shave with those, my wife, So

799
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:04,760
Speaker 3: you could shave with those?

800
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, crazy, Yeah, yeah, it was great. I mean, if

801
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 4: if you want to feel loved in the world, you know,

802
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 4: as an actor, have your bigger head of your gang

803
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 4: get removed and don't get removed right and in fact,

804
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,439
Speaker 4: watch them ban the universe to keeping you. And that's

805
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 4: what it felt like love and it was beautiful. And

806
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 4: also we got to step through and play with Will

807
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 4: and then Adam, and yeah, it felt good. Felt good.

808
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 1: That's kind of what I was thinking when I was

809
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: asking you the question about did it kind of feel

810
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: like home now? Like you had? We did have this

811
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: very big shakeup where Danny's now gone, and instead of

812
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 1: it being like, well, let's just get rid of that

813
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 1: world we created, that is exactly what happened. They were like,

814
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:55,280
Speaker 1: all right, how do we bend the world to still

815
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 1: include these two and to bring you in and now

816
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: Hie you to one of the regular cast members, not

817
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: just bringing in Adam Scott as this new kind of

818
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: potential leader in Griff, but really like welcoming you into

819
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: making you more a part of the mainstream, which is

820
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 1: probably right around the time you were told you were

821
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 1: going to be a part of the mainstream cast, only

822
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: then for that to not really work out. And we've

823
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,760
Speaker 1: learned over the course of this podcast that the amount

824
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: of and the intensity behind some of Michael Jacob's notes

825
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 1: were different for everyone. We've had a lot of people

826
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: come in who go, guys, can we talk about the

827
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: note session? Do you remember the note session? And then

828
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: we've had other people where we've said and do you

829
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: remember the note sessions and people being like, well, yeah,

830
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: there were some notes, but it was fine, it felt fine.

831
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,919
Speaker 1: Do you have any specific memories of Michael Jacob's notes

832
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:47,479
Speaker 1: and how did they feel to you.

833
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 4: I felt like Michael loved us a little bit. I

834
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 4: didn't know why, you know what I mean, Like probably

835
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 4: the New York thing in him, right, he felt like

836
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 4: he was from the East Coast, yep. And he felt

837
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 4: like it felt like the writers in general like loved us.

838
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 4: They would reference things I didn't understand.

839
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: You know, and we all experienced that.

840
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, they'd be like, you're like the Bowery Boys, You're

841
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 4: like the dead End Kids. And I still day of

842
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 4: never you know what I mean on my own. Yeah,

843
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 4: sick Man totally was going for dead End Kids.

844
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's actually it's a it's a perfectly

845
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 2: app reference. Yeah, because that was it was one of

846
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 2: the first players.

847
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

848
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,240
Speaker 2: Anyway, it's it's an old, old timey play about kids

849
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 2: in New York. Yeah, it looks like the first like

850
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:33,240
Speaker 2: street kid.

851
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:35,760
Speaker 3: Use guys.

852
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 4: Yeah right, yeah, I mean I feel like Michael loved us.

853
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 4: I don't think Michael I never I never felt like

854
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 4: Michael pointed to us when it's not working. He was

855
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 4: he was so fast it never felt personal, you know,

856
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 4: like he was like a phantom. You know, he's sort

857
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,720
Speaker 4: of the wizard of Odds. He'd come in and flowed

858
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 4: in and sit in his chair and I thought he

859
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 4: was you know, to me, he was like the coolest

860
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 4: guy there. I like loved he was like Rick Rubin

861
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 4: or you know, like doctor Dre got there, like you know,

862
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 4: he was.

863
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: Gonna go along by Michael Jacobs has ever to Doctor Dre.

864
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, he felt like he was, he was a

865
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 4: Bengali doing his thing.

866
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. I want to get to One of the biggest

867
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: laughs in the entire episode, as heard from the audience,

868
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: is during your time in Chubby's when Griff points out

869
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: that he saw you too sucking quarters out of the

870
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:32,399
Speaker 1: set of machine and then Ethan offers to spit them

871
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: back up, and it is incredible, so funny. Do you remember,

872
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: would you guys work these little bits out amongst each other?

873
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 1: It was a real like Jay and silent Bob vibe.

874
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 1: Would you guys do you remember working with Ethan on those.

875
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 4: Never did that close for you than not? And then

876
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 4: the no, man, No, I don't remember working it out. No,

877
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,439
Speaker 4: I just remember doing it. And then you know, I mean,

878
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 4: it's so that an example of the absurdity I was

879
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 4: like talking about, you know, how insane is that that

880
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 4: he's going to vombit corners at him.

881
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 5: It's good.

882
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,760
Speaker 3: So I don't know if you remember, but I remember

883
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 3: it specifically. One time you got arguably, if not the

884
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 3: ever biggest laugh at a table read, and it was

885
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 3: because of an ad lib that you did. So there's

886
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 3: an I remember, what do you think you might?

887
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 6: You might There was an episode where you're walking in

888
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 6: the hallway and it's supposed to be like like the

889
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 6: like the old School wild West and the Tumblewey, and

890
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 6: the line is like you say, look, I don't know.

891
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 3: It doesn't feel right. There's nobody here. And right beforehand

892
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:48,439
Speaker 3: there was they read I think it was trainer read

893
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 3: the stage direction and he was like the you know, Joey.

894
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 3: They walk into the hallway and it's empty and a

895
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 3: piece of paper blows by, and you say, you out

896
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:59,439
Speaker 3: of nowhere, go like, I don't know, I don't feel

897
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 3: right about this. This whole place is empty and there's

898
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 3: a piece of paper blowing by. And the piece of

899
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 3: paper blown by wasn't in the script, and everybody just

900
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 3: lost it and they ended up writing it into the

901
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 3: show so it made it into the thing. But that

902
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 3: was one of the first times because I hadn't learned

903
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 3: how to act yet. As you could see from the

904
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 3: episode we just watched, there was a So I remember

905
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 3: watching you and listening to that and being like, oh,

906
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,760
Speaker 3: like it can just come out of nowhere. The comedy

907
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:24,439
Speaker 3: you just pick it up and you just say it.

908
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 3: And it was one of those moments for me of like, oh,

909
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 3: I got to do that more often, and I'll never

910
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 3: get it. It's empty and the piece of paper blowing

911
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 3: by and everybody just absolutely lost it. Yep, I'll never

912
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 3: forget that, never forget.

913
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 4: That's that's that's cool man. That's cool to hear because,

914
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 4: like I say said, we were so separate like our

915
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 4: you know, Eric and the police that that's cool to

916
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 4: hear that that was inspired, that was something and that's

917
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 4: that's nice.

918
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 5: Thanks.

919
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: And this episode also has a quick cameo from Eric Balfour.

920
00:46:58,239 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: Did you know him at the time? Do you know

921
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: him now?

922
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 4: I knew him, you know what I mean? We weren't friends.

923
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 4: We didn't like running the same through. But has he

924
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 4: must have been on the show, right.

925
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: He has not? No, we have not had him on.

926
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:13,879
Speaker 4: Have you asked him to be on the show.

927
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,280
Speaker 1: We have not. We should don't we should?

928
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 4: Yeah?

929
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 1: We should.

930
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 4: I don't know anything. Uh maybe whatever you think. If

931
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 4: you've had me on four times, it's probably not.

932
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:29,280
Speaker 2: For I don't remember he was on Boy Me World.

933
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 3: I knew him.

934
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 2: He was in Trojan Words. Yeah, yeah, so like I

935
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 2: think I thought I knew him from there.

936
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't know he was on our show.

937
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 2: He was for No, he was.

938
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,760
Speaker 3: I remember him being on set. Was he dating somebody

939
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 3: he dated? So he was dating Danielle Harris at the time.

940
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 3: I was dating Jenna because Jenna and Danielle were best friends,

941
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 3: so we would always go out.

942
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 2: So he was on our set back in season one

943
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 2: or two.

944
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 3: It must have been yeah, must have been.

945
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 4: Okay, that's so.

946
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 2: Weird because I knew him as a person, but I

947
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 2: was like, was he ever?

948
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 3: And then I saw him. Oh you actually I forgot

949
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 3: he was on our show too. Frankly, Yeah, who wasn't

950
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 3: in the day?

951
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember, Yeah, Eric was cool. He was like

952
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 4: I remember him being like kind of like had swag

953
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 4: and like, chicks really liked Derek Balfour. So like, probably

954
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 4: I felt a little like jealousy or something because I

955
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 4: think I've always you know, or I think at that

956
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 4: time in my life, I didn't know really how to

957
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 4: talk to girls, so I probably like felt like jealous

958
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 4: or something. You know.

959
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 1: Well, last time we had you on, we did not

960
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: go too deep into your past TV work. I wanted

961
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,720
Speaker 1: to see what memories you have of doing Salute your Shorts.

962
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,720
Speaker 1: You did thirteen episodes of Salute your Shorts.

963
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 4: But it's a similar thing is this, I guess in

964
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 4: the sense that it was like a kids show and yeah,

965
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 4: and I had moved to LA right after I tried

966
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 4: to go to college and it was not for me,

967
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 4: and so I moved to LA and I couldn't book anything,

968
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 4: and this Nickelodeon show came up and it was for

969
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 4: a guest star, or so I thought. And so I

970
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 4: said to my girlfriend at the time, I'm gonna I

971
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 4: got a I'm gonna go book This one was Nickelodeon's

972
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 4: one shot this right, you know what I mean, Nick,

973
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go make rent. And so I don't know

974
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 4: where the wires got crossed, but I ended up on

975
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 4: the third callback. And on the third callback, they okay,

976
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 4: come with me, and they walked me back and there

977
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 4: was the whole cast and then they put me next

978
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 4: to the cast and they were like, okay, so this

979
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 4: is what he's gonna look like. Next is the cast.

980
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 4: And I was like, this is weird. Guest star is

981
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 4: going to be like yeah, screen tested essentially, you know.

982
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 4: So I was like, okay, cool, yeah, And then they

983
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,760
Speaker 4: were all hooting and hollering and welcome to the show.

984
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 4: And I was like, Dick, this is weird. And so

985
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 4: I got in my car and I dropping home going like,

986
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,760
Speaker 4: what was that? Am I got? Am I series regular

987
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 4: or something? This is real weird. And then my agent

988
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,320
Speaker 4: called and they were like, yeah, your booked serious series regular.

989
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,280
Speaker 4: You know I was. I was stoked in at the time.

990
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 4: I think I was so anxious because I needed to

991
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 4: book something so bad. I think if I knew it

992
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 4: was a I think if I think if I knew

993
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,280
Speaker 4: it was a regular, I wouldn't have done as well

994
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 4: because I thought it was just a one off. Phone

995
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 4: it in, do my Michael J. Fox impression and uh,

996
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 4: you know, book one one episode. I could pull that off,

997
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 4: you know.

998
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 3: Wow.

999
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: Well, since you appeared on our podcast the first time,

1000
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 1: we were able to include you in a couple of

1001
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 1: our live shows, once for the Bully Reunion here in

1002
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: LA and then again for one of a top five

1003
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 1: show for us, which was in your hometown of Nashville.

1004
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: What was that like for you seeing and hearing the

1005
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: appreciation the Boy Meets World fans have for you.

1006
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 4: I had forgotten what it was like to walk out

1007
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 4: on stage and hear that kind of applause, you know,

1008
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 4: So that was cool. I had forgotten that you know, right,

1009
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 4: it's intense, it's cool, it's it's like the first I

1010
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 4: don't know about you guys, but my first reaction is

1011
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:03,800
Speaker 4: like put my you know, because it's so much, and

1012
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 4: then you like let it in or for me, then

1013
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 4: I let it in and it was just like God,

1014
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 4: this is like so cool. You know, they're so people. Yeah,

1015
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 4: it's a big warm hug and people are people are

1016
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 4: really moved by it, you know, and like I think

1017
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 4: in general, like I think, like in general, people kind

1018
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 4: of just want to go see their like celebrities they love.

1019
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 4: So for instance, like someone might go to like a

1020
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 4: dog Star show to see Keanu Reeves even though they

1021
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 4: don't like that music. For instance, for example, yep, but

1022
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 4: you guys are not giving them weird grunge music. You

1023
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 4: can see the panga, but she's like gonna play you

1024
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 4: some music, don't hear showing up as like the denizens

1025
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 4: of that piece of that art piece, you know, the

1026
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,280
Speaker 4: paint brushes of that art piece step out on stage.

1027
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 4: So to get to be a paintbrush that night or

1028
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 4: those two nights I did, was neat, super fun. I mean,

1029
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 4: you guys are so loving and cool and humble, that

1030
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 4: standing among you and just you know, they love joy

1031
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 4: the rat They really love you, guys, and so just

1032
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 4: kind of like I feel like I get to stand

1033
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 4: witness and I stood witness to that and that felt

1034
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 4: really cool. And of course when they point there love

1035
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 4: it you or Ethan and I as it were that

1036
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 4: other night. Yeah, it's so fun, so cool.

1037
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, the dog star thing is my

1038
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 3: favorite analogy I've ever heard in my life.

1039
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 4: I hope no offense to It's awesome.

1040
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,800
Speaker 1: What was it like seeing Ethan and Danny again? Have

1041
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 1: you guys kept in touch at all since that time?

1042
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 4: A little? Ethan and I texted each other. No, not really,

1043
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 4: I mean we sort of.

1044
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: Just resumed our go back to normal life.

1045
00:52:55,400 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I mean life is mostly likely like if

1046
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 4: your life, everyone's life, let's say, is a lion, there's

1047
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,320
Speaker 4: like they're gonna have cross and then they're gonna uncross.

1048
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 4: Mostly that's how life works. Yeah, and so we crossed

1049
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 4: again and so cool. And I feel like because I

1050
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 4: Ethan was a good friend of mine apart away from

1051
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 4: the show, and we spent those college years together. The

1052
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 4: years that would have otherwise been spent at college, we

1053
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 4: spent together I think Ethan and I will forever be

1054
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 4: brothers and family. Danny, you know what I mean, such

1055
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 4: a nice guy, so sweet, don't you know what I mean?

1056
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 4: Like we just didn't spend that kind of time together,

1057
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 4: you know. But yeah, it was nice to see them,

1058
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 4: you know, it was nice to see them.

1059
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: Last time we spoke to you. We were all so

1060
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 1: happy to hear that you were dipping your toe back

1061
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 1: into creative outlets. And we'd love to get a little

1062
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 1: progress report. What do you Is there any update? What

1063
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 1: do you have to share with us? Where can people

1064
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: see what you're working on?

1065
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 2: Where's this horror movie?

1066
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 3: What's this horror movie about?

1067
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 1: Tell us.

1068
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 4: It's a horror movie. It's called one hundred Dead. I

1069
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 4: shot it last year. It's about these It's about the

1070
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 4: sort of most prolific serial killer who is killing on

1071
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 4: social media. He's going targeting sort of uh, people of

1072
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 4: low moral fiber, sort of culling as it were, you know,

1073
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 4: culling as one would wheat, you know. Uh, so people

1074
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:53,760
Speaker 4: he calls himself a reaper. So because he postsed on media,

1075
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 4: people have taken a calling him the Gramm reaper, like

1076
00:54:56,400 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 4: Instagram hates cool and so these kids start to follow

1077
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 4: and they want to. These kids on social media are

1078
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 4: following him. They want to and and the problem is

1079
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 4: they catch up. They catch up bad things help me

1080
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 4: catch up with the cool. So so they end up

1081
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 4: in an abandoned school, uh with uh the Beast and

1082
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 4: uh uh hell ensues.

1083
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 3: You know that's really cool.

1084
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: Okay, so you shot it last year?

1085
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:27,800
Speaker 5: What what?

1086
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:29,919
Speaker 1: What are the what are the plans? When can people

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Speaker 1: see it or where can people see it? Do you

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Speaker 1: have an idea?

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00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's close, the edit's close. We haven't we're in

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00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 4: post right now. We're almost done with dr the effects

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00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 4: is almost done, and uh, tighten the edit and get

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Speaker 4: it to sound, and we don't come out this year.

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00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,919
Speaker 4: Well it'll find a home this year. In a way,

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00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 4: in a way, there was something and this is true

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00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 4: of Boy Meets World has been this a little bit

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00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 4: for me in my life. But in a way, something

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00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 4: Rider said when we were backstage in Nash feel actually

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Speaker 4: and I was like, oh, I got to make this thing.

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00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 4: I got to make something. You know, do you want

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00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 4: me to share with that? We're talking about writer. I

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00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 4: had a horror film that he was writing right and

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00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 4: or written and he goes he goes. I said, what's

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00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 4: the budget? He goes, Man, can I share? Well, you

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00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,839
Speaker 4: guys cut it out if this is untcomfortable, you're boss.

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00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 4: He goes, It's four million, and I go need four million.

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00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 4: I can't get four million. Where am I going to

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00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 4: get four million to make a horror movie? So I

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00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 4: was like, okay, I'm just going to go make one

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00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 4: for like very little money. And so that's what we did.

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Speaker 4: We went and made it very money.

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00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: Oh so what's your big announcement?

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Speaker 4: So you know, in my varied and bizarre and charmed life,

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00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 4: you know, things tend to go away and like Boy

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00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 4: Meets World, they tend to return. And my my co

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00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 4: members of my old band Rylo Kylie called me up

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00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 4: a few months ago and said, hey, we are considering

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00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 4: this run of shows and would you be open to it?

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00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 4: And of course, not like everything like this podcast, it's

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00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 4: never something you were planning on, but it's a delightful

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00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 4: uh break in your life, and so of course is it. Yeah,

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00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 4: so we'll be doing a run of shows.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh are you coming out this way? Are you

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Speaker 3: going to be coming out to La? Of course?

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00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 4: Of course, yeah, we have to. I mean that's where

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00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,919
Speaker 4: it'll start because that's home.

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00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: You know, the bands unbelievable.

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00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 3: I never ever leave my house or used to leave

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Speaker 3: my apartment, but I used to go watch you guys

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00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 3: at Spaceland. I loved it. And so you're on the list.

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Speaker 3: I'll be there wherever you are.

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00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 4: You're all on the list.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait. That's so amazing, amazing.

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00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, and maybe I'll bring you out on my stage.

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00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: I don't want to do that.

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Speaker 4: To you guys. Yeah, what do you mean broo?

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00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Oh, I can't wait. If that's amazing,

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00:57:59,080 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 3: I can't wait.

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00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 4: Well, you have the coolest factor, you have the coolest sense.

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Speaker 1: Man, that's so amazing. We will be there. We are

1140
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: very excited. Wonderful news. We always just you know, podcast

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Speaker 1: decide having you on.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 1: Hopefully you know how beloved you are from our fans,

1144
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 1: but for us, we every time we are around you,

1145
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 1: it's just we don't the show, the whatever. It's great,

1146
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 1: but we love you. We love you. We love your realness,

1147
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 1: we love your authenticity. We love you. When you say,

1148
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 1: like listen, you're not gonna like this answer, we don't

1149
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 1: care about the glitzy answer. We love you and the

1150
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 1: honesty that you bring to it and the fact that

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00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: you share your experience with us. That's what this podcast

1152
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 1: has been. We have all been very honest about what

1153
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 1: our mindsets were at the time and how we feel now,

1154
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 1: and you bring that like authenticity better than just about anybody.

1155
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 1: And we adore you. We love you, We thank you

1156
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 1: for spending your time with us. We are rooting for you.

1157
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: We can't wait to see one hundred dead and whatever

1158
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 1: else you want gone. Just so much love for you,

1159
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 1: So thank you for being here with us.

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00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 4: Thank you so much, dud Love you guys too.

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Speaker 1: Give our love to your family. And we'll see you

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Speaker 1: in l A. I can't believe I can say that we'll.

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00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 4: See you in ls Yeah, we'll see Yeah.

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00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 2: Totally awesome, dude, So.

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00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 1: Good congratulations, So good bye, Blake, love you bye. Oh man.

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00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 1: He's He's a breath of fresh air.

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00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 3: It's always such an interesting conversation with him.

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00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 1: Really, I know he's so introspective.

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00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I just love it.

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00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 2: You can't ask him a question without him taking a

1171
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 2: full thirty seconds to think about before you, I know.

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00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 3: Think about what they say.

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Speaker 4: I know he's so brilliant considered.

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Speaker 2: He's just a considered human being and in the best

1175
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 2: possible way, he considers his life, he considers his actions. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he doesn't.

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Speaker 1: It's so cool, I know, that's what I mean. It's

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Speaker 1: such a breath of fresh air, like you know, to

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Speaker 1: all that I as a person who talks now for

1180
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 1: a living, I find myself regularly feeling uncomfortable if someone

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01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 1: has asked me something and I don't immediately have words

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01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 1: coming out of my mouth, and then I talk to

1183
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: him and there's so many seconds of dead air, and

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01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 1: I think this is nice. I know that what's going

1185
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 1: to follow has got ye. It's so interesting.

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01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 3: I'm so sick of my own voice. I don't know

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01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 3: what you're doing with myself.

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01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 1: It's just beautiful, beautiful silence with Blake. Thank you all

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01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 1: for listening to this episode of Pod Meets World. As always,

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Speaker 1: you can follow us on Instagram pod meets World Show.

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01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:38,640
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Speaker 3: this merch blowing by.

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Speaker 1: Pod Meets World is an iHeart podcast produced and hosted

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Speaker 1: by Danielle Fischel, Wilfridell and Right Or Strong Executive producers

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Speaker 1: Jensen Karp and Amy Sugarman. Executive in charge of production,

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