1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 2: Oh what's going on? Everybody? Welcome in Week sixteen of 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 2: the NFL. We got some college Bowl games that suck, 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 2: but we'll get into the ones that matter here on 5 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 2: the show. As I glance on the chat over here, 6 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 2: I'm seeing rich Ohs just beautiful mug over there in LA. 7 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 3: Right now. What's going on there? 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 4: Rich Well? Got family in La. So I'm at the 9 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio studios live. 10 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 5: We are. 11 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:34,639 Speaker 3: We are doing the holiday thing. 12 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 6: Man. 13 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 3: You gotta make the track. 14 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 4: You got to give the hugs and hand the presence 15 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 4: out in person, and then we'll make our way back 16 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 4: down to the homestead. But yeah, having a little Christmas 17 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 4: party atmosphere up here in LA today. 18 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 2: Very nice? Yeah, yeah nice. There is it a festive 19 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 2: over there with you and Jackpot there? 20 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 3: Huh? 21 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 7: Jared Jackpot by fest if you mean it's it's naptime 22 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 7: because he just had his breakfast, so he'll be out 23 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 7: for at least the first hour of the show. Got 24 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 7: to be nice and quiet. Usually it's still dark here 25 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 7: at the West Coast. 26 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 2: That's a that's a strong nap right there, strong day. 27 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 7: He is a professional napoff. 28 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 2: People. Let's dive right into the NFL. We got a 29 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 2: doubleheader today and the first game up is the Bengals 30 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 2: against the reeling Steelers. Here and the Steelers they are 31 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 2: three point home underdogs. Mason Rudolph gets the start. Mitch 32 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 2: Trubisky has been benched, who was rough the last couple 33 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 2: of weeks with Mitch as the starter filling in for 34 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 2: an injured Kenny Pickett. What are you guys thinking today 35 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 2: with Mason Rudolph going up against a Bengals team that's 36 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 2: been really good as of late. But just when you 37 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 2: think it's it's too good to be true or too easy, 38 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 2: there's a little old tap on the shoulder, a little 39 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 2: reminder that the Bengals got worked pretty good in Cincinnati 40 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 2: earlier this season when these two teams faced each and 41 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 2: that was the first time in fifty nine games that 42 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 2: the Steelers reached four hundred yards of total offense. So 43 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 2: with that in mind, does that affect how you handicap 44 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 2: this game at all going in today? 45 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 4: Yes, it does, But at the same token, you have 46 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 4: to look at the current spot both these teams are 47 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 4: in because they're different teams than they were than when 48 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 4: they faced each other. When you look at the Steelers. Obviously, 49 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 4: heading into this game with your third string quarterback his 50 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 4: first opportunity to start this season is not a admirable. 51 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 3: Position of being. 52 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 4: And you could have said the same things about the 53 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 4: Cincinnati Bengals earlier in the year when Browning took over 54 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 4: for Burrow, but he's proven through three straight wins to 55 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 4: have kept the wheels on, if not at times impressed. 56 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 4: So the Bengals, really, at eight and six with playoff 57 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 4: hopes very much alive, have a completely different feel to 58 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 4: them than the Pittsburgh Steelers right now, who feel like 59 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 4: they're hurtling towards mediocrity in terms of their final record. 60 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 4: Maybe with a little luck they can make a playoff push. 61 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 4: Actually a lot of luck, they can make a playoff push. 62 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 4: But it definitely feels like luck is on the side 63 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 4: of the Cincinnati Bengals because what they've put together is 64 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 4: a more than impressive season defensively for some of the 65 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 4: injuries that they faced on that side of the ball 66 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 4: this season, and then from an offensive standpoint, especially how 67 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 4: bad this team looked with an injured Joe Burrow to 68 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 4: start the season. The fact that Browning has looked so 69 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 4: good at quarterback, means that the gap between he and 70 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 4: Joe Burrow is much smaller than we initially thought. He's 71 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 4: kept the wheels on in a I mean to the 72 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 4: point where it gives you pause and you say, hey, 73 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 4: Zach Taylor's a hell of a coach. 74 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 3: Like either that or they've got a special player. 75 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 4: On the bench behind Joe Burrow one or the other, 76 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 4: and we're not sure which side of the coin that's 77 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 4: gonna land on yet. 78 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 7: I like Jake. I think Jake fits and I've been 79 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 7: asked this question a couple of times if if he 80 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 7: can continue to play up to the level that he has. 81 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 7: I think the answer is yes, because he fits the 82 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 7: system that Cincinnati's trying to run, which is doesn't try 83 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 7: to do too much, he understands the offense, and the 84 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 7: Bengals have a ton of weapons. 85 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 6: Now those weapons are a little bit depleted today. 86 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 7: No Jamar Chase, but the Steelers are missing basically everyone 87 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 7: at the free safety position. I think they're down to 88 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 7: Patrick Peterson at free safety today. So we'll see what 89 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 7: the what the what the secondary looks like for the Steelers. 90 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 7: No micka Fitzpatrick, even the backup of free safety is injured. Today, 91 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 7: but no Jamar Chase for the Bengals, So it's kind 92 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 7: of you know, you take a big piece of the 93 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 7: you know, big chess piece off the board there and 94 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 7: we'll see how both teams adjust. Joey Porter's probably gonna 95 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 7: see a lot of T Higgins, and he did a 96 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 7: good job last week. You know, I think overall Porter's 97 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 7: been been a pretty good player this year. Numbers kind 98 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 7: of getting close to three, and I think that's where 99 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 7: I depart Cincinnativille here. I bet since the early in 100 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 7: the week, and the number has agreed with it so far. 101 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 7: But I think now that we kind of hit three, 102 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 7: I'm a little bit hesitant to lay a full field 103 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 7: goal on the road with the Bengals here, but they 104 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 7: obviously have the check marks in their favor today with 105 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 7: the matchup and you know, the momentum. And I thought 106 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 7: last week was kind of the week that Pittsburgh was 107 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 7: gonna bounce back, right, coming off of two bad losses 108 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 7: to two bad teams. Facing the Colts, you know, fast track, 109 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 7: you would hope to get the offense going. 110 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 6: It didn't. 111 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 7: They scored thirteen points, they got blown out, and that 112 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 7: game was really never close. 113 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 6: So this is the season. 114 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 7: We'll see what kind of starts, you know, Mike Tomlin 115 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 7: can cook up. We'll see if this is one of those, 116 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 7: you know games where he cooks up one of those 117 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 7: magical recipes to get this team motivated. 118 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 6: But this is a tough spot to that. 119 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 7: I think this Bengals team's looking pretty pretty healthy the 120 00:05:58,240 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 7: last couple of weeks. 121 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 2: Well, I think that what you've seen from both teams 122 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 2: is the opposite of what you would think, at least 123 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 2: a lot of people would fall into that category here 124 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 2: where you look at Joe Burrow going down, you say, oh, 125 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 2: well they're cooked. Well, they've won three in a row, 126 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 2: and then you look at the Steelers on the flip side, 127 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 2: the Steelers were seven and four and at the time 128 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 2: it seemed like, well, it's gonna be another winning record, 129 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 2: another winning season for Mike Tomlin, that's all he does. 130 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 2: And they've lost their last three games and their last 131 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 2: three losses, my lord, two home losses to the Cardinals 132 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 2: and Patriots, who combine still only have six wins on 133 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 2: the season. That's who the Steelers lost to in back 134 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 2: to back weeks, and then last week against the Colts, 135 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 2: the Steelers block a punt, they're up thirty to nothing. Okay, 136 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 2: let's go. They give up thirty unanswered points to Gardner 137 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 2: Minshew in company. Michael Pittman Junior didn't even finish the game. 138 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 2: He got knocked out because of a hit. It was 139 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 2: a poor pass by Minshew and a dirty hit. And 140 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 2: Demante Casey is suspended for the rest of the season. 141 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 2: But that's what stands out to me, the Bengals and 142 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 2: the Steelers. It's just a reminder of how long the 143 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 2: season is, and just when you think, okay, this is 144 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 2: about to happen, sometimes in the NFL, the opposite happens. 145 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it really does. And I think that's been 146 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 4: a hallmark of this season is just when you start 147 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 4: getting comfortable with some of the teams you're familiar with 148 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 4: in the wildcard chase or leading their division in some 149 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 4: of these tighter divisions, something major shifts. Either have a 150 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 4: key injury at a key position, or a team all 151 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 4: of a sudden just starts playing poorly and or they 152 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 4: get caught by better competition. How many teams this season 153 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 4: have we seen struggle against the better competition on their schedule, 154 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 4: but when they're playing the softer you know, sub five 155 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 4: hundred teams, they look like world beaters. That's been a 156 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 4: theme this season as well. I think what we're seeing 157 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 4: across the NFL is the better coach teams who've had 158 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 4: healthy quarterbacks who were, you know, top half quarterbacks to 159 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 4: begin with. You're starting to see the separation there, but 160 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 4: that's few and far between with all the quarterback injuries 161 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 4: we've seen, and frankly a dearth of good coaching at 162 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 4: times this season in terms of continuity on the offensive 163 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 4: side of the ball. A lot of new coordinators, a 164 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 4: lot of quarterbacks working with new coordinators this year, and 165 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 4: I think that has had an effect overall in the season. 166 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 4: But steering it back towards this game, this matchup AFC South. 167 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 4: The reason why this spread is as tight as it 168 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 4: is is because I think you got to give a 169 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 4: tremendous amount of respect to Mike Tomlin, who I look 170 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 4: inexplicably he's been over five hundred for years. 171 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 3: Or for the entirety of his career. 172 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 4: However, there's this growing drum beat in the background, and 173 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 4: I'm curious what you guys think about this that people 174 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 4: are like, hey, look, is the goal to be above 175 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:14,839 Speaker 4: five hundred or is the goal to. 176 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 3: Win Super Bowls? 177 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 4: Yes, and I get it, and I get that frustration 178 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 4: from Pittsburgh fans, like it used to be, well, at 179 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 4: least we have Mike Tomlin and now it's like, geez, well, 180 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 4: with Mike Tomlin, we're not going. 181 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 3: To lose more games than we win. 182 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 4: But at the end of the season, if that doesn't 183 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 4: get us a tournament, berth, what is it all for. 184 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, being nine to eight is cool as 185 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 4: long as you sneak into the wildcard or potentially lead 186 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 4: a week division. Otherwise you don't have any chance to 187 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 4: make a run at a championship. So I don't think 188 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 4: a lot of people in Pittsburgh, or it should say 189 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 4: a lot of the fan base in Pittsburgh are as 190 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 4: impressed with that stat than the national media. 191 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, and let's be honest, guys, even though they have 192 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 7: made the playoffs the last few years, it's not exactly 193 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 7: been pretty. I mean, they've had some really it's been 194 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 7: like luck box seasons. You know, they had a couple 195 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 7: of really nice winning seasons during that stretch where they 196 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 7: were twelve, you know, twelve thirteen wins, but they always 197 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 7: fall short and they have them back to the Super 198 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 7: Bowl and it's been like twenty ten or something like that. 199 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 6: It's been a while, So this is I don't want. 200 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 7: To say this is like the year that Mike Tomlin, 201 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 7: you know, finally gets the rail as coach, because I 202 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 7: don't know what's going on behind the scenes there in Pittsburgh. 203 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 7: They're one of the more buttoned up franchises with a 204 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 7: lot of this stuff that you know, it's I don't 205 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 7: think they're gonna just fire Mike because he goes eight 206 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 7: to nine this year instead of nine and eight. 207 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 3: Like it. 208 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 7: Even if they go nine and eight and they miss 209 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 7: the playoffs, which is very very possible by the way, 210 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 7: based on the way the AFC is, and I'll be honest, 211 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 7: look at their schedule down the stretch. They're a home 212 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 7: dog this week, and then the last two weeks they're 213 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 7: at Seattle and at Baltimore, and we'll see what Baltimore 214 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 7: has to play for in week eighteen. They might be 215 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 7: resting people, but I think the odds of them going 216 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 7: under five hundred this year are definitely above a coin flip, 217 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 7: especially if they lose today. I think, frankly, it's it's 218 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 7: the five hundred dream is over. If they lose today, 219 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 7: I don't think they're losing, but I don't think they're 220 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 7: winning both those games on the road the last two weeks. 221 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 7: So this is I thought last week was the season. 222 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 7: I thought last week was the line in the sand game. 223 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 7: You come off of two games and all I heard 224 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 7: the whole week was a team has never lost back 225 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 7: to back games against a team eight was eight under 226 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 7: five hundred. It was like some kind of crazy stat 227 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 7: like of terrible teams lose, you know, beating a good 228 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 7: team at this stage of the season has never happened 229 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 7: back to back weeks. And then they followed that up 230 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 7: with a stinker in Indy, and it just I don't 231 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 7: know if there's anything Mike can do, Like he can't 232 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 7: go out there and play quarterback right like they're on 233 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 7: their third quarterback this year, and frankly, none of them 234 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 7: have been. 235 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 6: Over overly excitable. 236 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 7: So this is a This is one of those games 237 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 7: where if it's if it's a struggle early and that 238 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 7: Bengals defense is playing tough against against Mason Rudolph and 239 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 7: making his life hard, I don't know what's left in 240 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 7: the tank with Pittsburgh here, We're gonna find out a lot. 241 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 7: What's you know what if Mike's got any aces left 242 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 7: up his sleep? 243 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's listen man. 244 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:18,719 Speaker 2: The uh the narrative, as I have Lebron flashbacks, right 245 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 2: the narrative about Mike Tomlin is is pretty negative. Right now, 246 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 2: I think overly negative because I'll hear some stuff. What 247 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 2: you said, Rich is totally fair, like it's not good 248 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 2: enough just have a winning record, we gotta do damage 249 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 2: come playoff time. I think that's completely fair. But the 250 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 2: other stuff I hear is, hey, maybe it's time for 251 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 2: Tomlin to go. It's like this is his first losing 252 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 2: maybe his first losing season in a decade and a half. 253 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 2: You know, we're ready to run him out of town. 254 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 2: It's ridiculous, like they don't have a quarterback. Like we 255 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 2: got Big Ben talking about maybe they lost all the 256 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 2: Steeler tradition. They don't have a quarterback. It's not as 257 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 2: if they have a guy and Tomlin's just lost his 258 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 2: fast ball, you know what I mean? Like I hear 259 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 2: this stuff with Belichick. Also, we act like Belichick has 260 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 2: a QB. They don't. They've got the two headed monster 261 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 2: of Mac Jones and Bailey ZAPPI who the Steelers have Canny, Pickett, 262 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 2: Mitche and Mason. 263 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you. 264 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 2: Want to do with that? 265 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 3: Like? 266 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 2: Really, come on, I think that right. I think sometimes 267 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 2: we're unrealistic with what we've gotten repeatedly, and then when 268 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 2: we don't get that again and again, it's just a possibility. 269 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 2: They have a losing record. A lot of times we overreact, 270 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 2: and that's where I think we are. Big picture. Now, 271 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 2: if you zoom in what's interesting about this matchup, you 272 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 2: have to go back to November twenty sixth, almost a 273 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 2: month ago. That was the Steelers last win. It was 274 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 2: against the Bengals. Yeah, and it was the same game. Yeah, 275 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 2: the last loss for the Bengals was against the Steeler. Yeah. 276 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 3: Crazy, crazy, strange how that works. 277 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, like both both ends of both ends of this 278 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 4: this it's. 279 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 3: It here, here's the I guess. My final thoughts on Mike. 280 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 4: Tomlin is is he Mike Tomlin reminds me of a 281 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 4: boxer with an iron chin. But it's getting laid in 282 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 4: his career and you know he's not gonna contend for 283 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 4: a belt anymore. 284 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 3: Right. You love him, you love him. 285 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 4: You've watched him win those title fights, him being those 286 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 4: those big rounds and your root for him. But the 287 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 4: truth is, does he still have that secret sauce that 288 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 4: knockout stuff? 289 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 3: And the answer is probably not. 290 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 4: But he's gonna go he's gonna go deep, he's gonna 291 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 4: take into deep water, he's gonna go into the late 292 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 4: rounds with you. I just don't know if I trust 293 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 4: him in a title bout any longer. 294 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 3: And then the other side. 295 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 4: Of this from the fan base perspective, and I know, look, 296 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 4: fans overreact, and that is their job because that's part 297 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 4: of the fun of being a fan. 298 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 3: But you mentioned has he lost his fastball? 299 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 4: Well, it's odd you use that because it's uh, it's 300 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 4: he or I should say, the steal have the exact 301 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 4: same number of playoff victories as the Pittsburgh Pirates over 302 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 4: the past dec It's. 303 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 2: A great stat by the way, Yeah, but they play 304 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 2: throw that stat out of them. There you go, probably 305 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 2: all in one season that the Pirates won. 306 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 7: I'm sure all the Pittsburgh fans really appreciate that stat today, 307 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 7: especially considering we even got a Pittsburgh Pirates reference in the. 308 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 3: Show research team. Yeah, in the background. 309 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 7: I mean, listen, guys, this is I think it. I 310 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 7: think I feel comfortable saying two things. I think I 311 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 7: feel comfortable saying that the Steelers winning record streak will 312 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 7: come to an end this year, especially if they lose today, 313 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 7: it's done. If they win today, I think they got 314 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 7: a fighters chance back to back to Rich's reference there. 315 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 7: But if they if they lose today, they're not going 316 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 7: on the road the last two weeks and winning. ATSI 317 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 7: allen at Baltimore, and I think the Ravens are losing 318 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 7: to the Niners this week, which means Baltimore is going 319 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 7: to probably have to win out. They're definitely gonna have 320 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 7: to beat Miami next week and probably gonna have to 321 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 7: win in Week eighteen in order to get the number 322 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 7: one seed. So I don't think Pittsburgh's gonna get a freebie, 323 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 7: a big free bingo square there in week eighteen if 324 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 7: Baltimore rest Lamar Jackson. But on the other side, for Cincinnati, 325 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 7: I mean, let's be honest, if they win this game today, 326 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 7: they've got nine wins and they're looking like a playoff team. 327 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 7: I guess with Jake Browning, I mean, they go to 328 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 7: Kansas City next week, and that's no picnic, of course, 329 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 7: especially with the Steeler or the Chiefs always wanting to 330 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 7: stick at the SINCI based off of that the Super 331 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 7: Bowl round a couple of years ago. And then you 332 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 7: get Cleveland at home in the final week of the 333 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 7: year when you're facing Joe Flacco. Probably, so you can 334 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 7: say that this is a game that's gonna kind of 335 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 7: put the Bengals back onto the perch into the AAC playoffs, 336 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 7: and that'll remove the Steelers today. This is a very 337 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 7: this is a swing game if Cincinnati wins today, and 338 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 7: I think it removes Pittsburgh and it really puts Cinconny 339 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 7: in a good spot to just somehow without Joe Burrow 340 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 7: make the playoffs, which you say, it would be really 341 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 7: cool if Mike Tomlin could figure out a way to 342 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 7: get into the postseason, for lou An Rumo and for 343 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 7: Zach Taylor and this coaching staff to figure out a 344 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 7: way to get this Bengals team into the postseason after 345 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 7: all the adversity they fought through early in the year. 346 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 6: Pretty impressive stuff. 347 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 2: Hey BETMGM has all the action for every sports fan, 348 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 2: whether you love to wager on game winning touchdowns, home runs, 349 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 2: buzzer beaters, or overtime goals. 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But I thought we would look 395 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 2: more so throughout the week because we've got an onslaught 396 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 2: of games throughout the entire week, and there are a 397 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 2: couple I've got circled here. I'm looking at Louisville against USC. 398 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 2: That's on Wednesday, no Caleb Williams as he opts out 399 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 2: the USC quarterback. And then a little bit later on Friday, 400 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 2: we've got Missouri against Ohio State, two teams no Kyle McCord, 401 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 2: who transferred to Syracuse, the former Ohio State quarterback. So 402 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 2: I find both of those very interesting, among other things. 403 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 2: But if this is a regular season matchup and the 404 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 2: other team's quarterback is out, especially Caleb Williams, that would 405 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 2: be earth shattering news, you know what I mean. But 406 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 2: just because it's a bowl game, you get a bunch 407 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,479 Speaker 2: of opt outs and a bunch of transfers, and I 408 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 2: don't think we look at it with the same impact, 409 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 2: even though it is making the same impact. Do you 410 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 2: guys agree with that? 411 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, Listen, bowl games, bowl season in college football has 412 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 4: turned into the NBA's regular season. We're just nobody likes 413 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 4: load management. We're just used to it. 414 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:45,719 Speaker 2: You know. 415 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 4: We just realize that it's a part of doing business 416 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 4: now at the NBA level because the players Union has 417 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 4: too much power in the dynamic between the owners and 418 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 4: the players. And look, this comes from somebody who advocates 419 00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 4: for players to have power in. 420 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 3: These dynas because it's a short earning. 421 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 4: Window and typically when the pendulum of power swings towards 422 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 4: the player side, you see more of the workforce earning 423 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 4: more money, which I think, and and earning better benefits 424 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 4: for life after sport, and all of those things I 425 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 4: think is is are good things. However, what happens when 426 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 4: players get too much power in any power dynamic is 427 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 4: certain aspects of competitiveness get taken advantage of. Like we 428 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 4: don't get to see NBA superstars on night in night 429 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 4: out basis you'll have people pay for expensive seats and 430 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 4: the whole reason is to go see Anthony Davis and 431 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 4: Lebron James at Crypto dot Com arena, or Victor Wemminyama 432 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 4: out there in in San Antonio or the Greek Freak 433 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 4: in Milwaukee, and you'll have guys take nights off just 434 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 4: because they need a break because it's the second game 435 00:21:58,119 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 4: of a back to back. 436 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 3: Well, that's boldseason. Now, if you love. 437 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 4: Your starting quarterback, don't turn on his bowl game, you know, 438 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 4: especially if he's an upperclassman, especially if he's got a 439 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 4: little steam on his name and he can go into 440 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 4: the transfer portal. So that holiday ball that you're talking about, 441 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 4: I'm getting ready to call that game. I'm doing the 442 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 4: national radio. 443 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 2: Wow. 444 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's awesome, man. 445 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 4: I appreciate, thank you. I'm excited for it. Down in 446 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 4: San Diego at Peco Park. 447 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 6: Such a cool venue. 448 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 7: Yeah. Oh, it's the ReVibe now, right. 449 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 4: Totally different vibe and the way they set up that 450 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 4: ballpark for football is very very cool. But Louisville is 451 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 4: going to be without their star running back Jawar Jordan 452 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 4: and Jamari Thrash both declared for the NFL Draft. 453 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 3: Of course, thrasher receiver. 454 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 4: I mean it's not just Caleb Williams on the side 455 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 4: of USC. I mean they're gonna be without Marshawn Lloyd yep, 456 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 4: and who's their top running back and obviously their top receiver, 457 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 4: Brendan Rice were responsible for twenty one touchdowns this season 458 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 4: for the Trojans. 459 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,160 Speaker 3: I mean, these games. 460 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 4: Used to be so exciting, and we used to circle 461 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 4: the wagons and say this, Hey, if you're looking for 462 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 4: some college football action in December, well look no further 463 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:15,199 Speaker 4: than Team X facing Team Y and Bowl Game Z. 464 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 3: We don't get that anymore. 465 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 4: Because the stars do not align for these games any longer. 466 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 6: Which opinion do you want here? Guys? 467 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 7: Do you want the betting analyst opinion or the college 468 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 7: football fan opinion? 469 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 6: US can give you both. 470 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, give us both. 471 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 2: The Connor Stallions spectator in the twenty seventh row. 472 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, we need like the FU. 473 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 7: I gotta come up with a different opinion. Then I 474 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 7: had two opinions in my head. Now Brian's asking for 475 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 7: a third. He's asking for the extra work this morning. 476 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 6: No, okay. 477 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 7: So the college football betting analyst opinion is these games 478 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 7: offer a very unique opportunity because the lines swing violently, 479 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 7: and when the line swing violently, we have a chance 480 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 7: to find that value that we're seeking. Right, because this 481 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 7: might have moved too much, and you and the lines move, 482 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 7: that's where better's love. So from a betting perspective, I 483 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 7: don't mind this hubbub around the ball games. 484 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 6: From a college football. 485 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 7: Fan, from a sports fan perspective, we've we've lost it. 486 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,959 Speaker 7: We've we've completely gone off the deep end with these games. 487 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 7: The last couple of years. It has been when you 488 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 7: have group of five players at New Mexico State, at 489 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 7: you know, name the random school that's playing today, I 490 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 7: mean there are several of them with key players out. 491 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 7: When you have group of five guys that are at 492 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 7: the lowest level of Division one college football in the portal, 493 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 7: we have a problem. It just you're supposed to manage 494 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 7: up where it's like the top guys get the privilege 495 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 7: of opting out to the transfer portal because they're that good. 496 00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:00,919 Speaker 7: When it's the whole college football landscape, like everybody the 497 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 7: backup on you know Troy today, you know the entire 498 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 7: Duke football team basically, and I know they're not a 499 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 7: group of five, but you get the point, Like, that's 500 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 7: where I think we have a bit of an issue, 501 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 7: and I don't know what the answer is. I've said 502 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 7: for years the Bowl games are. I love them. I 503 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 7: love everything about them. I love the flair, I love 504 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 7: the culture with each city, with each venue, with each 505 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,479 Speaker 7: weird you know, Nook and Cranny, the Mayo bowl, the potato, 506 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 7: give me all of them. But we have to find 507 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 7: a way to incentivize these kids to play. And I 508 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 7: don't know what the answer is. If it's changing the 509 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 7: portal window so it's a couple weeks later, if it's 510 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 7: giving them just money to play, like straight cash, here, 511 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 7: come play. But we've reached a point now where it's 512 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 7: just good luck finding a roster with half of these games. 513 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 6: And it's tough. 514 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 7: I mean, you watch the syrirac Use game the other night. 515 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 7: I mean it's like, goodness gracious, nobody wants to be 516 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 7: out there. So I don't know what the answer is. 517 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 7: I don't know how we fix it, but I think 518 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 7: we got to try to fix it. 519 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 2: Right well, we don't need to fix Isaac Low and 520 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 2: drawn definitely needs no fixing whatsoever. He is running in 521 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 2: pristine fashion and he's are you sure about that? I'm 522 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 2: sure about that, absolutely sure about that. Here's he's here 523 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 2: to let us know what we need to know around 524 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 2: the sports landscape. 525 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 3: What's going on? 526 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 10: I Low, Oh, this role never ceases to amaze, and 527 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,479 Speaker 10: I'm sure sure you will agree with me in just moments. 528 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 10: But first we start with more conventional sports news, and 529 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 10: that's Friday Nights slate in the NBA, seeing Steph Curry 530 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 10: of the Golden State Warriors score thirty points in just 531 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 10: twenty seven minutes. He made eight three pointers either one 532 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 10: twenty nine to one eighteen win over Washington. The Sacamento 533 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 10: Kings defeat of the Phoenix Suns one twenty to one 534 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 10: oh five. Demonisamota is twenty eight points, eleven rebounds, twelve 535 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 10: assists for his fourth triple double of the season. The 536 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 10: Kings have won six of eight, the Suns just fourteen 537 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 10: and fourteen this year. Joel Embiid thirty one points and 538 00:26:55,680 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 10: ten rebounds for his thirteenth consecutive thirty ten games as 539 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 10: his Philadelphia seventy six ers toppled. Toronto won twenty one 540 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 10: to one eleven Denver a one twenty two to one 541 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 10: seventeen win at Brooklyn to improve to twenty and ten. 542 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 10: The Nets have lost five straight. The Miami Heat over 543 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 10: the Atlanta Hawks won twenty two to one thirteen. Tyler 544 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 10: Hero scored thirty Duncan Robinson scored twenty one points in 545 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 10: the fourth quarter alone, and Houston blew out Dallas one 546 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 10: twenty two to ninety six for the Mavericks, played without 547 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 10: Luka Dontrich because of a strained left quad finally fellas. 548 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 10: We have news from the world of fishing. Yes, a 549 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 10: Florida fisherman caught a fifty pound tarpin and is now 550 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 10: wanted by police for it. The reason is he caught 551 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 10: it out of a take at a bass Pro shops store. 552 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 6: Did he catch it or steal it? 553 00:27:55,560 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 10: He walked in with a net, reached into the tank 554 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 10: with the nets and hauled out a fifty pound tarpin 555 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 10: in Fort Myers, Florida. The Lee County Sheriff's Office sent 556 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 10: out an alert the reads in part, and I'm not 557 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 10: making any of this up I quote. If you have 558 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 10: information on the suspect, please drop us a line. We're 559 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 10: fishing for information, oh wow, and would love nothing more 560 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 10: than to chum it up with the suspect. 561 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 9: We'll be monitoring the story. Back to you, guys. 562 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 2: Thank you. 563 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 4: I Low. 564 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 2: It's Fox Sports Radio. It is keptab to kick Off, 565 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 2: presented by Bett MGM. Shortly after the show, our podcast 566 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 2: will be going up. If you miss anything on today's show, 567 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 2: be sure to check it out to search Fox Sports 568 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 2: Radio wherever you get your podcasts, be sure to follow, 569 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 2: rate and review it again. Just search Fox Sports Radio 570 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 2: wherever you get your podcasts and you'll see this show 571 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 2: posted right after we get off the year. Let's stick 572 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 2: with Florida, right, we got the crazy fishing story. How 573 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 2: about this Florida State. Florida State trying to sue the 574 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 2: ACC and grease the skids to leave the conference scott 575 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 2: free where they wouldn't have to pay millions of dollars 576 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 2: to exit there. The thing I think is we heard 577 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 2: this for so long. Is all the ACC and the 578 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 2: grant of rights, Yeah, they can't leave until like twenty 579 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 2: thirty six, And it's like we're already starting to see 580 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 2: these contracts are just suggestions. They're already trying to sue 581 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,239 Speaker 2: the conference and just get away without paying anything. And 582 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 2: they might be able to do that. So this is 583 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 2: just the beginning of Florida State is leaving. Florida State 584 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 2: is leaving and heading elsewhere. It's just a matter of 585 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 2: do they owe money or do they. 586 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 3: Not owe money. 587 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 2: But this idea that oh, they're locked in until like 588 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 2: twenty thirty something, No, no they're not. It's gonna be 589 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 2: sooner than later. If they went out for real. 590 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, you could look at the what happened to Florida State, 591 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 4: the undefeated Seminoles through the regular season and their conference 592 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 4: championship game being omitted from the College Football Playoff as 593 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 4: the final straw. But really, I think I think it 594 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 4: goes back to the old saying, never let a good 595 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 4: crisis go to waste. When you have a situation like 596 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 4: that where it has so much national attention and there's 597 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 4: so many people pleaing the case for Florida State, the 598 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 4: Seminoles athletic department very intelligently, and the university and the 599 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 4: powers that be said, hey, this sucks, but as bad 600 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 4: as this sucks, maybe it's an opportunity for us to 601 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 4: get what we want, which is to break this quote 602 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 4: unquote ironclad media rights deal between the conference and the 603 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 4: network and maybe get out of here without having to 604 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 4: pay upwards of five hundred and seventy million dollars in 605 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 4: exit fees. Maybe we could get that number way down 606 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 4: because because we're gonna have some of the nations, you know, 607 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 4: the punits and the talking heads backing us in this situation. 608 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 4: So let's strike while the iron's hot. That's what I 609 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 4: think is the reason why this is all coming out 610 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 4: right now. 611 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, and let's be clear, it is coming out right now. 612 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 7: It's a hot button topic. But we're gonna be sitting 613 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 7: on this for a while because the ACC's got twenty 614 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 7: days to respond to this lawsuit, and I'm reading because 615 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 7: of the holidays, the league could ask for an extension 616 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 7: of another month. So good luck figuring this out before 617 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 7: the college football playoffs. It won't get figured out before 618 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 7: probably the end of the NFL playoffs. I would say 619 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 7: maybe right maybe around the Super Bowl we'll hear back 620 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 7: from the ACC about what they're gonna do, or maybe 621 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 7: right beforehand. 622 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 6: And the other part of this that I don't want. 623 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 7: To say it bothers me, but it just doesn't make 624 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 7: sense from a logical standpoint. And I go back to 625 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 7: an argument I have all the time with all of 626 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 7: my Penn State groupies. Group chat of eight guys from 627 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 7: Penn State, and we all talk about, you know things. 628 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 7: We usually talk about life and football, and you know, 629 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 7: once or twice a year, usually right around the time 630 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 7: that Penn State plays Michigan and Ohio State, everybody wants 631 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 7: to fire James Franklin and and my response is, eh, 632 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 7: you know, maybe ten fifteen years ago. 633 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 6: Before I did this job. 634 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 7: For a while, I was a little more a trolls 635 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:26,959 Speaker 7: at the gates fire games Franklin. Now I'm like, well, 636 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 7: who are we hiring guys? Like, like, like, what's the 637 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 7: next step? Like you guys want to get rid of 638 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 7: a guy that's you know, bringing in a top ten 639 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 7: recruiting class. And I digress from that topic. Is my 640 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 7: point being, Florida State wants to leave the ACC Where 641 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 7: are they going? 642 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 3: Right? 643 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 7: Like you have to have another place, like the grass 644 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 7: is always greener on the other side, Where are you going? 645 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 7: You want to the Big twelve to that disaster and 646 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 7: Texas and Olaholm's about to leave and what's happening there. 647 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 6: You're gonna go to the SEC. 648 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 7: You're gonna join the league that your arrivals with and 649 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 7: you're getting it maybe, but the SEC want you? Does 650 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 7: the Big ten want you? Of an invitation from. 651 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:01,479 Speaker 6: Any of these places? 652 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 7: So I understand the desire to act. Where are you going? 653 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 6: Do you have an invitation from any of these leagues 654 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 6: to join? 655 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 7: So I don't know how this is going to play out, 656 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 7: but I know I stand by on my on my 657 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 7: hill that I will die on that the conference landscape 658 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 7: in college football is a complete waste. The conferences are 659 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 7: a waste. The only reason they're there is nostalgia. I'd 660 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 7: love to blow it up and just create like a 661 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 7: premier league where you can promote and relegate teams from 662 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,719 Speaker 7: the College Football Playoff Division and get rid of these 663 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 7: stupid conferences forever. 664 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 2: Well, real fast, it's it's not the ACC's fault that 665 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 2: Florida State didn't make the college football teas. 666 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 3: I agree, like that's that's the. 667 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 2: Thing where it might be a convenient argument to make, 668 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 2: and hey, maybe they'll go for it. I don't know 669 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 2: if that's what the Florida State powers that be are thinking. 670 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 2: But it's because Jordan Travis got hurt. This has nothing 671 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 2: to do with the ACC. You know that bad lay 672 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 2: ultimately came down to. So it's just it's funny that 673 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 2: they're like, well, I mean, goodness, we got left out, 674 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 2: so we went out of the ACC. Makes sense, right, No, 675 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 2: it makes no sense, But good luck to you. Good luck. 676 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, maybe. 677 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 3: You'll end up suing the conference and get what you want. 678 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 2: But I'll tell you this, some of these some of 679 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 2: these schools are gonna find out the grass is not 680 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 2: greener on the East side where it's like, hey, let's 681 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 2: go to the SEC. Okay, great, let us know when 682 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 2: you're relevant again Texas. You know like it's not gonna 683 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 2: work out for a lot of these teams, and we 684 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 2: have a lot of history as far as that goes 685 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 2: with other teams that hasn't worked out for Hey, we're 686 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 2: brought to you by Progressive Insurance. Progressive makes bundling easy 687 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 2: and affordable. Get a multi policy discount by combining your motorcycle, RV, boat, 688 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 2: ATV and more all your protection in one place. Bundle 689 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,839 Speaker 2: and save at Progressive dot com. Rich Orenberger is with 690 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 2: us live in Sherman Oaks, California, otherwise known as Los Angeles. 691 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 2: We've got Jared Smith FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian No 692 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 2: coming up next. Jared Smith cooked up a winner last week, 693 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 2: Marlay Platter, will you run it back? We'll see what 694 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 2: he's thinking today. Is it College Bowl game related? Is 695 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 2: it NFL related? Is it a hybrid? Is there hoops involved? 696 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 2: I don't know where he's gonna go. We'll find out. 697 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 2: It's Fox Sports Radios. Countdown to Kickoff, presented by bet MGM. 698 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Radios. 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All right, 706 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 2: let's do. 707 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,800 Speaker 1: This, check this out parlay letter. 708 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 3: Yes, Jared Smith cooked up a winner last week. 709 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 2: If we review, he had the over in the Denver 710 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 2: Detroit game. Detroit almost did it by themselves. Lions scored 711 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 2: forty two. He had a Sam Laporta and time touchdown 712 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 2: Old Sammy had three of them. They had extra credit 713 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 2: over there and also Laporta over fifty receiving yards. He 714 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 2: got the fifty six. So that is a winner from 715 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 2: Jared Smith. Nicely done. Are you planning to run it 716 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 2: back here Jared this morning? 717 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 718 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 7: I think the NFL Same game parlays in terms of, 719 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 7: you know, putting it all into a nice, neat little package. Right, 720 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 7: It's Christmas time. You wrap it up with a bow. 721 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 7: It's one game, you're in and out and you hopefully 722 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 7: unwrap it and it's not a lump of coal. So 723 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,399 Speaker 7: let's get started because we'll go Bills Chargers tonight. It's 724 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 7: the late game tonight in the NFL, and let's just 725 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 7: try to script it out right. Let's put the Quentin 726 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 7: Tarantino hat on. Let's try to script this sucker out. 727 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 7: So the Bills are coming off of I would say 728 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 7: their best win of the year and absolute devastation of 729 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 7: the Cowboys, and the Chargers are coming off I don't 730 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,240 Speaker 7: even know how to describe what I watched last Thursday 731 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,319 Speaker 7: night at the Allegiance Stadium. It was a train wreck, 732 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:58,359 Speaker 7: of car accident, a nuclear explosion all taking place at 733 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 7: the same time, and Brandon phely Sea. So I think 734 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,240 Speaker 7: it's gonna be a little more buttoned up this week. 735 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 7: My guess is we see the Chargers defense, which is 736 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,799 Speaker 7: going to be completely renovated with the play calls and 737 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 7: you know, Brandon Staley called all the signals and it's 738 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 7: gonna be a kind of group collective effort this week. 739 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 7: The outside linebacker coach got promoted to the interim and 740 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 7: the defensive coordinator. Now it's gonna taken up. So I 741 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 7: think you're gonna see a more spirited effort from Buffalo 742 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 7: defense or from the Chargers defense. And from Buffalo I 743 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,320 Speaker 7: could see them just kind of coming in and coasting 744 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,479 Speaker 7: on offense in this game. So we'll go under forty 745 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 7: four and a half first leg of the parlay, and 746 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 7: then we'll go Josh Allen under thirty four and a 747 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 7: half rushing yards. 748 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,319 Speaker 6: Again, not an important game, so why are you gonna use. 749 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,839 Speaker 7: Josh Allen's legs as a big part of the game 750 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 7: plan here? And then we'll take Austin Eckler and we'll 751 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 7: kind of split him up. We'll do what he normally does, 752 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 7: which is catch passes over twenty four and a half 753 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 7: passing yards. It's gone over this number and three of 754 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 7: the last four and then under fifty four and a 755 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,840 Speaker 7: half rushing yards. Because Eckler is not a big runner anyways. 756 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 7: And you think game script Bills are going to be ahead, 757 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 7: Chargers are going to be behind. That'll take the running 758 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 7: game out of it. This is a pretty good nugget here, guys. 759 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 7: Six to one on the under forty four and a 760 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,839 Speaker 7: half those Chargers under thirty four and a half, Josh 761 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 7: Allen rush yards under fifty four and a half, Austin 762 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 7: Eckler rush yards over twenty four and a half, Austin 763 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 7: Eckler receiving yards not back six to one payout there 764 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 7: on the same game, parlay. 765 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:17,359 Speaker 6: What do we think? 766 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 1: Oh? 767 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:18,840 Speaker 3: I like it. I'll tell you what. 768 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 4: The only problem that I could see running running a 769 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 4: running a ride with this parlay. 770 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:25,439 Speaker 2: Running a muck. 771 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 3: I like running amuck, running a muck. 772 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 4: With your parlay is is the way that Khalil Mack 773 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 4: and this Chargers defense have gotten after certain quarterbacks, and 774 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 4: that rushing total may jump up a little bit higher 775 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 4: on scrambles. But outside of that, I mean, to be 776 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 4: perfectly honest with you, I still think that number will 777 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 4: settle under the mark. 778 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 3: So I love it. I think six to one is 779 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:49,840 Speaker 3: some nice odds too. 780 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 6: That's true. It is a nice payout. 781 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 7: And I'm hoping maybe if maybe Josh Allen's over that 782 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 7: number in the end, maybe some knees the final drive 783 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:00,919 Speaker 7: as they came through that game. 784 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,760 Speaker 3: You never knows. 785 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,319 Speaker 7: I've lost bets on that before. 786 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 2: I do the worst, the sweetest When. 787 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 7: Brian, it's like you're preaching to the choir. 788 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 6: That's why you take the others. 789 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 7: Brian, so dirty, so dirty. 790 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 2: And it's like college. It doesn't count against the rushing 791 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,239 Speaker 2: total of the quarterbacks, right taken, correct, but all the 792 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:27,959 Speaker 2: sack yardage does. So gonna catch you all right. Coming 793 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 2: up next a team that is coming on like Gangbusters. 794 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:33,320 Speaker 3: That's on the way. 795 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,360 Speaker 2: Oh, what's going on? Everybody? Week sixteen of the NFL 796 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 2: College football Bowl Games, Collore. It's a good time to 797 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,319 Speaker 2: be alive and to be a fan of ball. We 798 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,720 Speaker 2: are brought to you by Progressive Insurance. Progressive makes bundling 799 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 2: easy and affordable. 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They're eight and 809 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:29,799 Speaker 2: six on the season and They are the trendiest team 810 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 2: I think in the NFL right now, where it's like, 811 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 2: look out for Buffalo, Here they come. Cow Hurd this 812 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 2: week said they're gonna win the Super Bowl, right They're 813 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,840 Speaker 2: getting there out of the AFC. And I don't know 814 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 2: what you guys think, but it's a great performance last 815 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,839 Speaker 2: week against the Cowboys. They smacked them around. But it's 816 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 2: a two game winning streak and an eight and six 817 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 2: record enough for you to say, oh, here they come, 818 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 2: Here comes Buffalo. I am not there at all. 819 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,319 Speaker 4: I've been there for a while. And you guys know 820 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,319 Speaker 4: how I feel about Josh Allen. I'm not a late 821 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,840 Speaker 4: adopter here. I believe that the Bills were a better 822 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 4: team than they've been characterized as all season long. And 823 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 4: I think that Josh Allen kind of unfairly has been 824 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 4: left holding the bag for some of the other problems 825 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 4: that the Bills have this season. 826 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 3: Josh Allen isn't the problem. He's the solution to the problem. 827 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 4: And if you look at the wins the past two 828 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 4: weeks were really impressive, but look at some of the 829 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 4: losses over the last five games. The ot loss to 830 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 4: the Philadelphia Eagles that was a nail Bier down to 831 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 4: the wire. The loss to the Denver Broncos, who are 832 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,960 Speaker 4: a good football team regardless of what happened last week. 833 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,239 Speaker 4: They are a well coached team or dangerous who have 834 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,440 Speaker 4: a talented quarterback. And when you have a couple of 835 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,759 Speaker 4: those things aligned for you, that's a team that could 836 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 4: beat anybody in the league. And the Broncos have proven that. 837 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 4: And that was a near loss to the Denver Broncos. 838 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,919 Speaker 4: So they've gone three of the last five. They beat 839 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 4: the snot out of the Jets and then beat the 840 00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,400 Speaker 4: Super Bowl champs from a year ago, and the Chiefs 841 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,719 Speaker 4: lost by only two in ot to the other team 842 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 4: in the Super Bowl during that five game span. And 843 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 4: absolutely curb stumped the Cowboys last week at home. And 844 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 4: they're playing against a team in the Chargers, who look, 845 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 4: the Chargers are in that spot. And I've been on teams, well, 846 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,760 Speaker 4: I should say, really only one team in my entire 847 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:25,759 Speaker 4: life like this, where the season's over, nobody's playing for 848 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:29,799 Speaker 4: each other anymore. There, everybody's playing for their film, for 849 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:34,839 Speaker 4: their next opportunity, for end of the year awards, Pro 850 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 4: Bowl berths, or numbers that will help them hit incentives 851 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 4: like this is the ship's going down and the Rats 852 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 4: are fleeing for the upper decks. It's just this is 853 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,919 Speaker 4: what it looks like when a regime changes and there's 854 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,440 Speaker 4: uncertainty in the future. You're not going to see a 855 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:59,919 Speaker 4: composed Chargers football team go on, go on and take 856 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,320 Speaker 4: the field. That's so far this this, this isn't gonna 857 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:07,360 Speaker 4: be like an Antonio Pierce situation with the Las Vegas Raiders, 858 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:11,360 Speaker 4: where there was still a survivable situation for Las Vegas, 859 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:13,240 Speaker 4: like the season's over. 860 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 3: In La Yeah. 861 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,759 Speaker 7: And so usually from a betting standpoint, you do get 862 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 7: a bit of a dead cat bounce the week after 863 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 7: the coach is firing. For example, the Panthers actually covered 864 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 7: the spread the week after Frank Right got fired. Now, 865 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 7: they didn't win the game. They did win later. They've 866 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,600 Speaker 7: won a couple games actually since the firing. But we've seen, 867 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,319 Speaker 7: you know, we've seen teams kind of That's why it's 868 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 7: it's a finance term dead cat bounce, Like a stocks 869 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:41,840 Speaker 7: is getting absolutely pummeled and then all of a sudden 870 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,920 Speaker 7: you see this this you know, uptick randomly, and that's 871 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 7: kind of what. 872 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:48,360 Speaker 6: Sometimes you can expect. 873 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 7: Now I'll give you the details of what the Chargers 874 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,759 Speaker 7: are going to be up against today. So out the 875 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 7: outside linebacker coach. Is it Giff or Jiff? Right, that's 876 00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,359 Speaker 7: the running joke. Yeah, spelled g i Ff. We'll go 877 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,640 Speaker 7: with We'll go with Jeff. Jeff Smith takes over the 878 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:07,400 Speaker 7: intermat coaching duties John tim who's going to coach the 879 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,960 Speaker 7: defensive line because they also fired the defensive line coach. 880 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,879 Speaker 7: You've got the defensive quality control coach, Robert musch Champ. 881 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 7: He's gonna take on a bigger role with the outside 882 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,960 Speaker 7: linebackers because Jeff Smith's gonna get moved to the internet 883 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,880 Speaker 7: coach roll. And then you've got the defensive coordinator Derek Ansley, 884 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,640 Speaker 7: who has not called defensive plays all year because Brandon 885 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 7: Staley is the guy. He now will call the defensive 886 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 7: signals for the Charger. So again, a lot of movement, 887 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,759 Speaker 7: but sometimes when those things happen, you get a little 888 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 7: bit of a bounce in productivity. Back to Richard's point 889 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,400 Speaker 7: and to collins point about the Bills. 890 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 6: They've lost six games this year. 891 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 7: They've all been by a single score, and you watch 892 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:48,560 Speaker 7: these games every single Sunday, Guys, it's one play in 893 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 7: either direction. That tilts the game. Usually. They lost to 894 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 7: the Jets Week one in overtime, they lost to the 895 00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 7: Jaguars Week five by five, They lost to the Patriots, 896 00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,319 Speaker 7: which is looking like a bizarre loss now on the road. 897 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,920 Speaker 7: In Week seven by and then again the last the 898 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 7: recent string of losses. That Bengals game was tight on 899 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 7: the road. Joe Burrow was still there the Broncos game, 900 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,440 Speaker 7: I mean, you know, twelfth guy on the field Broncos, 901 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,359 Speaker 7: you know, missed the field goal, get the bonus there, 902 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,000 Speaker 7: and they kicked the extra point there, and they kicked 903 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:18,319 Speaker 7: the second one that wins. 904 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 6: And then the Eagles one was in overtime too. 905 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,960 Speaker 7: So again, six losses this year all by a whisker 906 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,799 Speaker 7: one or two plays in either direction, and those games 907 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,440 Speaker 7: tilt the other way. And this is a very different 908 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 7: narrative about this Buffalo team. If they're let's say ten 909 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,879 Speaker 7: and four instead of eight and six, right, so this 910 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 7: is I could see it. I could see them making 911 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 7: a run down the stretch. I could see that, you know, 912 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,320 Speaker 7: the Sean McDermott story kind of being a galvanizing moment 913 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,239 Speaker 7: for them. But I would be surprised if we see 914 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 7: their best stuff in this game today. 915 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,480 Speaker 2: This is a classic team where we only look at 916 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 2: one side of the coin, where it's all these close losses. 917 00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,880 Speaker 2: How about their close wins. Okay, they beat Chiefs because 918 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 2: Kadarius Tony. 919 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,000 Speaker 3: Couldn't line up correctly. 920 00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 2: Sure, Okay, they barely pulled that one out by three points. 921 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 2: How about the win earlier this season against the Giants 922 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 2: when Tyrod Taylor was the quarterback. Yeah, on Sunday Night Football, 923 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:17,560 Speaker 2: and what was it? Darren Waller got you know, hog 924 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:21,480 Speaker 2: tied on the final throw into the end zone. Right 925 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,879 Speaker 2: there could have easily been pass interference and who knows 926 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,680 Speaker 2: what happens there. The Giants at that time were a 927 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 2: disaster and the Bills barely won that game. Like, I know, 928 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,200 Speaker 2: they're in a much better spot, and it's a long season, 929 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 2: and I think there's more value in the NFL, especially 930 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 2: of who's playing hot right here right now, because that 931 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,040 Speaker 2: does matter a ton. But I think that if we're 932 00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,440 Speaker 2: gonna look at the close losses, we got to look 933 00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 2: at the close wins. Also. 934 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:50,479 Speaker 6: I agree. 935 00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 2: And when it's all said and done, this Bills team, 936 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,440 Speaker 2: they've had a couple of significant injuries defensively, and Josh 937 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,759 Speaker 2: Allen's thrown fourteen interceptions. Think about this, He didn't throw 938 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 2: it very much at all. Last week he only had 939 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:05,160 Speaker 2: fifteen passing attempts because James Cook in the running game 940 00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 2: were crushing the Cowboys. But that broke a string of 941 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:14,200 Speaker 2: an interception in nine straight games. He's second in interceptions 942 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,279 Speaker 2: this year. Only Sam Howell has thrown more picks than 943 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,919 Speaker 2: Josh Allen. So listen, Josh Allen. I'm with you, Rich 944 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 2: He's one of the best quarterbacks in the game. But 945 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,799 Speaker 2: these interceptions, they can come back to bite you, and 946 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,840 Speaker 2: that's where you lose close games. It's not just fluky stuff. 947 00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:35,239 Speaker 2: The flukiest thing that happened this year led to a 948 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:39,239 Speaker 2: win when Kadarius Tony couldn't line up correctly. So they 949 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,759 Speaker 2: have a tendency of shooting themselves in the foot when 950 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,840 Speaker 2: it matters most. And sorry, three out of four wins 951 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,319 Speaker 2: is not enough for me to come on board. Look 952 00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,279 Speaker 2: out for Buffalo. They're barely over five hundred. Yeah, have 953 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:52,040 Speaker 2: fun with them. 954 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:56,000 Speaker 4: I I uh, here's the reason why I disagree. I 955 00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,160 Speaker 4: think that this narrative started game one of the season 956 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:03,920 Speaker 4: when John Allen against Aaron Rodgers absolutely laid an egg 957 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:05,799 Speaker 4: and that was in a game that they should have 958 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,960 Speaker 4: won because Aaron Rodgers was injured within four plays, and 959 00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,239 Speaker 4: I think that narrative has followed them the rest of 960 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:12,800 Speaker 4: the season. 961 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:14,240 Speaker 3: I think everybody saw. 962 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,719 Speaker 4: That opening game and there were so many eyeballs on 963 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:20,319 Speaker 4: that game, and they made the decision that, Wow, you 964 00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,799 Speaker 4: know what this is who Josh Allen is. 965 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:24,800 Speaker 3: He's a big game choke artist. 966 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:29,200 Speaker 4: He's he's a guy who you're gonna love his in tangibles, 967 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,960 Speaker 4: but he just makes those bonehead plays sometimes that can 968 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,759 Speaker 4: lose the Bills some games, and that is true. You 969 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,320 Speaker 4: gotta take the bad with the good with Josh Allen, 970 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,800 Speaker 4: but there is so much good. Like I understand that 971 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:42,560 Speaker 4: they have a lot of close wins, but this is 972 00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,840 Speaker 4: close wins with certain teams are very different than close 973 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,280 Speaker 4: wins with others. Like I look at the close wins 974 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,279 Speaker 4: all season long with the Minnesota Vikings last year, and 975 00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,040 Speaker 4: I would agree with your thought process if we were 976 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,880 Speaker 4: talking about that team with that quarterback a year ago, 977 00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,799 Speaker 4: because they were kind of fraudulent. They were hiding some 978 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:05,120 Speaker 4: of their issues in plain sight, and they got found 979 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:08,279 Speaker 4: out real quick. Hosting the Giants in the postseason, they 980 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:09,560 Speaker 4: got their break speed off. 981 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:10,640 Speaker 3: But I don't look at. 982 00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,920 Speaker 4: The Bills like I look at the Minnesota Vikings. There 983 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,839 Speaker 4: are other teams who are close win artists or you know, 984 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,239 Speaker 4: or you know, look like they could be you know, 985 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,040 Speaker 4: suspect to get picked off in the opening round of 986 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,719 Speaker 4: the postseason. Should the Bills make it, I think they 987 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:27,640 Speaker 4: will because they're red hot right now. 988 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,719 Speaker 3: Because I again, because they have an. 989 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:35,320 Speaker 4: Elite quarterback, and that tilts the balance in your favor. 990 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:39,000 Speaker 4: Like Kirk Cousins with the Minnesota Vikings and all those 991 00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:42,040 Speaker 4: close wins last year, there isn't a single thing about 992 00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,080 Speaker 4: his game that's elite. I look at Josh Allen and 993 00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,600 Speaker 4: you look at the arm talent and the escapability and 994 00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:51,200 Speaker 4: the improviavisation and some of those moments in good games, 995 00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,840 Speaker 4: big games for the Bills where. 996 00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:54,719 Speaker 3: He saves the day. 997 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're gonna have the interceptions, but also look at 998 00:49:58,640 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 4: the touchdowns. 999 00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,440 Speaker 3: Look at the touchdown to interception ratio. 1000 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,200 Speaker 4: I mean, he's one of the best and most talented 1001 00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,160 Speaker 4: quarterbacks in this league and we're holding that one stat 1002 00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,920 Speaker 4: against him. Guess what if you throw the football a 1003 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:12,879 Speaker 4: lot in the end zone, you're gonna throw a lot 1004 00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:13,640 Speaker 4: to the other team. 1005 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,960 Speaker 3: Too sometimes, and that's the case with Josh Allen. 1006 00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, the turnover worthy plays are a little bit down 1007 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,320 Speaker 7: this year, and the big time throwers are also a 1008 00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,440 Speaker 7: little bit down. I think overall, they've been just a 1009 00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:29,160 Speaker 7: bit of a different offense this season. I don't think 1010 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:30,759 Speaker 7: they're gonna win the Super Bowl. I don't think this 1011 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,319 Speaker 7: is some kind of like wake up call, but I 1012 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,440 Speaker 7: do think that they're playing the type of football. Like, 1013 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:40,200 Speaker 7: let's be fair to what the preseason odds told us, 1014 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:45,160 Speaker 7: this is the super Bowl favorite preseason like them just 1015 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:49,400 Speaker 7: making the playoffs does not deserve this, you know, oh wow, like, 1016 00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:50,880 Speaker 7: oh my goodness, watch out for. 1017 00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:54,280 Speaker 6: They were the preseason favorite to win the Super Bowl. 1018 00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:55,680 Speaker 6: They should be in the playoffs. 1019 00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:57,920 Speaker 7: They should frankly have a better record, but they don't 1020 00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,840 Speaker 7: because of the mistakes that Brian talk about, and I agree, 1021 00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:04,440 Speaker 7: I think one of those mistakes will eventually be their undoing. 1022 00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,000 Speaker 7: But if you were going to ask me if the 1023 00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:11,520 Speaker 7: playoffs started today, what is one team in the AFC 1024 00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,480 Speaker 7: that I wouldn't want to face? I would put Josh 1025 00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,279 Speaker 7: Allen in Buffalo on that list. Does that mean they're 1026 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:17,880 Speaker 7: gonna run through the playoffs and make Super but no, 1027 00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,920 Speaker 7: I think there's more discipline button up teams in the 1028 00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:22,840 Speaker 7: NFL this year. I think the Ravens and the Chiefs 1029 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:24,799 Speaker 7: on the AFC side are still kind of those two 1030 00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:28,400 Speaker 7: teams that I would look for. But it is Josh 1031 00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,800 Speaker 7: Allen and they're hot right now. They're gonna make the 1032 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,319 Speaker 7: playoffs because they face the Chargers and the Patriots over 1033 00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,000 Speaker 7: the next two weeks. They're gonna win ten games and 1034 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,080 Speaker 7: they're probably gonna get a Dolphins team that has nothing 1035 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,080 Speaker 7: to play for in the last week. And my guess 1036 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,840 Speaker 7: is they're the first wildcard team in the AFC, just 1037 00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,560 Speaker 7: my hunch, and then we'll see what happens on the 1038 00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:47,600 Speaker 7: road in the playoffs. We'll see if they can come together, 1039 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,879 Speaker 7: because I do think that the moment for them when 1040 00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,359 Speaker 7: it was all the turmoil around McDermott and the nine 1041 00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,880 Speaker 7: to eleven story and they went on the road to 1042 00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:57,719 Speaker 7: Kansas City and I know it wasn't easy, but they 1043 00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:58,279 Speaker 7: won the game. 1044 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:00,640 Speaker 6: Sometimes the you just have to. 1045 00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:02,439 Speaker 7: See one go through the hoop when you're a team 1046 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,200 Speaker 7: that's dealing with adversity and they were able to overcome 1047 00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,560 Speaker 7: it and they've played well. Maybe that's kind of the 1048 00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:12,000 Speaker 7: galvanizing moment for this team. We'll see, but the next 1049 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:13,680 Speaker 7: three weeks we're not going to learn much. We won't 1050 00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:15,880 Speaker 7: learn much until the wild card weekend. 1051 00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:20,160 Speaker 2: I like how this Josh Allen slash Bills thing has 1052 00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:25,799 Speaker 2: become rich oh v no, and we are just sparring left. 1053 00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:27,600 Speaker 6: I'm kind of in the middle, although. 1054 00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:29,640 Speaker 7: I'm not buying. 1055 00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:30,560 Speaker 6: I'm not fully. 1056 00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:31,719 Speaker 7: Buying in Yeah Bills things. 1057 00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,759 Speaker 2: Well, it's to be perfectly fair, it's it's not the 1058 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:39,520 Speaker 2: greatest timing when they're taking on the Charger tonight. 1059 00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,000 Speaker 7: But the Patriots next week in a revenge game. 1060 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,920 Speaker 2: We're looking at the season collectively where I think it's 1061 00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,560 Speaker 2: the opposite rich. When you go back to the game 1062 00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,520 Speaker 2: against the Jets, and you're right, that was a big 1063 00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:55,680 Speaker 2: disappointment and that hurt Josh Allen's rep and the way 1064 00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,560 Speaker 2: that you look at him. That was a perspective shifting 1065 00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:02,200 Speaker 2: loss when you lose in Aaron Rodgers' list Jets team, 1066 00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,680 Speaker 2: and the way that Jets pulled it out was ridiculous. 1067 00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:08,080 Speaker 2: But I think that Josh Allen right here, right now, 1068 00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,960 Speaker 2: he's getting more flowers than he deserves because of what 1069 00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,040 Speaker 2: he's done before this year. Because if you talk about 1070 00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:18,920 Speaker 2: the touchdowns to interceptions, just the differential Josh Allen's plus twelve. 1071 00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,439 Speaker 2: There are plenty of other quarterbacks that are better when 1072 00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,400 Speaker 2: it comes to that, that are not getting the flowers 1073 00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:29,120 Speaker 2: that Josh Allen is getting. Jordan love Is plus fourteen, 1074 00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,840 Speaker 2: Packers quarterback. Is he getting as much love? Jared goff 1075 00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,799 Speaker 2: Is plus sixteen, He's not getting as much love two 1076 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,239 Speaker 2: US plus fifteen. That's better not getting as much love, 1077 00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,680 Speaker 2: so forth and so on. You got guys like Baker 1078 00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:46,200 Speaker 2: Mayfield plus sixteen. You've got Derek Carr in the same 1079 00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,480 Speaker 2: neighborhood plus eleven. None of these guys are getting the 1080 00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,080 Speaker 2: flowers that Josh Allen is getting. And a lot of 1081 00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,319 Speaker 2: that has to do with we've seen him do this 1082 00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:58,839 Speaker 2: repeatedly in other seasons. But all this stuff about oh 1083 00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,759 Speaker 2: look out for this play man coonel, in my mind 1084 00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:05,200 Speaker 2: it's tied more so to pre twenty twenty three than 1085 00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,279 Speaker 2: just twenty twenty three. And don't get me wrong, he's 1086 00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:12,240 Speaker 2: still a very good quarterback. But these turnover prone plays 1087 00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,959 Speaker 2: that he has, they can kill you, and it has 1088 00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:17,560 Speaker 2: before when it matters most. 1089 00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:22,440 Speaker 4: I think that the Bills have put Josh Allen in 1090 00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:26,680 Speaker 4: a situation this season at times where he's felt like 1091 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:30,120 Speaker 4: he's needed to do more than he's actually needed to do, 1092 00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:36,839 Speaker 4: and firing their offensive coordinator mid season felt honestly a 1093 00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,880 Speaker 4: little bit like a knee jerk reaction to some of 1094 00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:43,360 Speaker 4: the heat and the pressure that Sean McDermott was facing 1095 00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,520 Speaker 4: this season, and it felt like appeasement a little bit 1096 00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,240 Speaker 4: as opposed to the best football decision at the time, 1097 00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:54,279 Speaker 4: because continuity is important to a quarterback. Now, things have 1098 00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:58,240 Speaker 4: recovered well since that point, and I think the narrative 1099 00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:01,719 Speaker 4: has shifted back more in favor of the Bills. And 1100 00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:03,840 Speaker 4: I think the Bills remind me a lot of the 1101 00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,840 Speaker 4: Ravens in a lot of ways. They're a team that 1102 00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,880 Speaker 4: plays better with the lead. They're built like front runners. 1103 00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,399 Speaker 4: I think Josh Allen is more comfortable playing with the lead, 1104 00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:16,920 Speaker 4: but actually trust Josh Allen more trailing than I do. 1105 00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:20,160 Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson, you know you mentioned a lot of quarterbacks there, 1106 00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:23,200 Speaker 4: Jared Goff and Baker Mayfield and to a tongue of 1107 00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,880 Speaker 4: I loa and you know the others on that list 1108 00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:32,760 Speaker 4: who have a better touchdown to interception margin this year. However, 1109 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,880 Speaker 4: would you trade a single one of them. For Josh Allen, 1110 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,920 Speaker 4: the answer is no. Josh Allen has elite intangibles that 1111 00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,120 Speaker 4: to a tongue of v Lois certainly doesn't have. Jared 1112 00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:45,319 Speaker 4: Goff certainly doesn't have that. Baker Mayfield certainly doesn't have that. 1113 00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,840 Speaker 4: Jared Goff definitely doesn't have, and in big moments he 1114 00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:53,759 Speaker 4: has produced some amazing plays based on his intangibles. So 1115 00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,920 Speaker 4: I agree that Josh Allen is not the perfect quarterback. 1116 00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,480 Speaker 4: He's never going to be Tom Brady. He's never going 1117 00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,920 Speaker 4: to be you know, Drew Brees when he's on a 1118 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:06,200 Speaker 4: heater or Peyton manning the sheriff. But he has certain 1119 00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:09,600 Speaker 4: aspects to his game that I think get overlooked when 1120 00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:13,960 Speaker 4: the Bills overall are struggling because, like quarterbacks often do, 1121 00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,400 Speaker 4: he's given more blame when they're losing, and he's given 1122 00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,520 Speaker 4: too much credit when they're winning at times as well. 1123 00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,839 Speaker 4: So I really look at it this way. If you're 1124 00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:27,839 Speaker 4: a quarterback on a good football team with intangible greatness 1125 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,360 Speaker 4: like Josh Allen has, and I do think the Bills 1126 00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,879 Speaker 4: overall are a good enough team to make a deep 1127 00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:36,160 Speaker 4: run in the postseason, well then you have my trust, 1128 00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,919 Speaker 4: in my faith and I saw this a month ago 1129 00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:42,080 Speaker 4: with the Bills. They just need to put together some 1130 00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,600 Speaker 4: of those wins and to borrow the phrase that Jared 1131 00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,120 Speaker 4: use to see the ball go through the hoop and 1132 00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,640 Speaker 4: build that confidence. And I think that win over the 1133 00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:53,319 Speaker 4: Chiefs is kind of what's propelling them into this home 1134 00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,360 Speaker 4: stretch kick and that may last into the postseason. 1135 00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:58,040 Speaker 6: But how long does it last? 1136 00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,920 Speaker 7: That's true because that game took place on December tenth. 1137 00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:06,840 Speaker 7: The Super Bowls not until February I think twelfth, right, So, 1138 00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,520 Speaker 7: because it's it's kind of funny because Rich I know 1139 00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:11,560 Speaker 7: you know this, because this is this is like a 1140 00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,720 Speaker 7: phrase that I love that I'm sure every winning cures 1141 00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:18,600 Speaker 7: a lot. It does like it. There could be a 1142 00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:22,720 Speaker 7: rotting carcass in the locker room if you win the game. 1143 00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:24,040 Speaker 6: It doesn't smell as bad. 1144 00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:28,400 Speaker 7: It just and I think it's going really well right now, 1145 00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,680 Speaker 7: and it will go really well for the next two 1146 00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,080 Speaker 7: weeks because they're gonna be a double digit favorite this week. 1147 00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:35,960 Speaker 7: They are, and they're gonna be a double digit favorite 1148 00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:39,040 Speaker 7: at home against Patriots next week, and we won't get 1149 00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:43,160 Speaker 7: a sense for just how how much this team has 1150 00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:47,720 Speaker 7: really grown until probably week eighteen. But more than likely 1151 00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,480 Speaker 7: not until the second week of January. 1152 00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:52,120 Speaker 6: We're not even at New Year's. 1153 00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:56,000 Speaker 7: Yet, so can this Bills team sustain these good vibes 1154 00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,200 Speaker 7: for the next month. And it's kind of funny because 1155 00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:02,080 Speaker 7: there was a stench around this team after the postseason 1156 00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:07,720 Speaker 7: failure against Cincinnati, right everybody said, well, the defense, defense, defense, 1157 00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,960 Speaker 7: and well it's McDermott's defense. But it was Leslie Fraser 1158 00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,280 Speaker 7: that took the leave of absence after the Super Bowl 1159 00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:15,040 Speaker 7: and everyone's like, wait a minute, this is a really 1160 00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,480 Speaker 7: good defense. Why is Leslie Fraser, the defensive coordinator last 1161 00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,480 Speaker 7: year leaving? And then we read the story about McDermott 1162 00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:22,040 Speaker 7: this year and we kind of figure it out that, 1163 00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:24,440 Speaker 7: you know, Leslie Fraser was the guy that got to 1164 00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:26,040 Speaker 7: push out the door for all the bad things that 1165 00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:29,360 Speaker 7: happened this year. It was Ken Dorsey, the offensive coordinator. 1166 00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:32,840 Speaker 7: There's always this, you know, level of protection away from 1167 00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,560 Speaker 7: Sean McDermott, and McDermott took a lot of heat. Well 1168 00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:38,800 Speaker 7: credit to the Bills. They rallied around that heat. They 1169 00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:42,280 Speaker 7: overcame that adversity to beat the Chiefs. Can that carry 1170 00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,080 Speaker 7: you all the way to the Super Bowl again? That 1171 00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:47,439 Speaker 7: game took place on December tenth. Can everything go well 1172 00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,919 Speaker 7: for the next two months, that this team is able 1173 00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,640 Speaker 7: to dodge all of these land mines that Brian's alluding to, 1174 00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:56,720 Speaker 7: the turnovers and Josh Allen's headspace and Sean mcdermot's it's 1175 00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:58,919 Speaker 7: a lot, and I think it might be too much 1176 00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,760 Speaker 7: to overcome. But right now they're in a really good position. 1177 00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:03,800 Speaker 7: We won't know anything for another month. 1178 00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:05,520 Speaker 2: It's too much. 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Not the sexiest matchups, but sometimes that 1214 01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:58,360 Speaker 2: makes for some good value betting wise. 1215 01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:02,720 Speaker 11: Hey, sol uh the valleys in the eye of the beholder, 1216 01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:05,360 Speaker 11: I think okay. So, I mean, if you still think 1217 01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:08,000 Speaker 11: there's some value up there personally, I have the value 1218 01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:09,840 Speaker 11: that's gone I think probably on a lot of these 1219 01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:11,880 Speaker 11: games about a week ago, when you have all these 1220 01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:17,000 Speaker 11: transfers announcing and coaches leaving like at JMU. So, I mean, 1221 01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,080 Speaker 11: if you think there's still some value up there, half 1222 01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:19,360 Speaker 11: at it. 1223 01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:22,040 Speaker 6: You know what's funny, shame is because I hear this 1224 01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:22,480 Speaker 6: all the time. 1225 01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:28,160 Speaker 7: Well, Vegas knows, Vegas knows. You guys don't know anything 1226 01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:31,920 Speaker 7: compared to what really is taking place out there. Everyone 1227 01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:34,000 Speaker 7: thinks that, oh, well, you know the lines moving this. 1228 01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:37,160 Speaker 7: You guys are just as keen to this as we are. 1229 01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:39,400 Speaker 7: You're you're probably scrolling the internet trying to figure out 1230 01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:40,040 Speaker 7: if these kids. 1231 01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:40,640 Speaker 6: Are playing or not. 1232 01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:44,080 Speaker 7: Like the stuff the other night with Frank Harris was 1233 01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:48,040 Speaker 7: just bizarre, and it's just we get to this point 1234 01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,120 Speaker 7: in the year and you're in the same position as 1235 01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:51,959 Speaker 7: we are trying to figure out if these kids are. 1236 01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:52,400 Speaker 6: Playing or not. 1237 01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:57,600 Speaker 11: I like in booking Bowl games to booking the draft, 1238 01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:03,040 Speaker 11: because nine times out of ten, it's all the closing launch, 1239 01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:05,560 Speaker 11: trade down information, you know what differences. You know, they 1240 01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:07,479 Speaker 11: go up there and play football game for sixty minutes 1241 01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:09,320 Speaker 11: and we have shot where we maybe we can get lucky. 1242 01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:12,120 Speaker 11: You know, in a draft, you know, you get beat 1243 01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:15,320 Speaker 11: by the sharp action and it's information pretty much done. 1244 01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:17,960 Speaker 11: It's I mean, it's really hard to stay ahead of 1245 01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:21,160 Speaker 11: these but that's why, just it's important. Just you know, 1246 01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:25,439 Speaker 11: profile your customers right, make sure you're you're taking bets 1247 01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:26,959 Speaker 11: from the guys who definitely know the most. 1248 01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:28,480 Speaker 7: I know. 1249 01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:31,480 Speaker 4: I know we talk about sharp betters and and you know, 1250 01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:34,640 Speaker 4: market movers and things like that a lot because obviously 1251 01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:37,880 Speaker 4: their influence matters, and it can make it harder to 1252 01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:40,440 Speaker 4: handicap games not knowing what they know. 1253 01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:43,040 Speaker 3: But overall, like I'll give you an example. 1254 01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:45,280 Speaker 4: So I work on the weekends with Fox Sports Radio, 1255 01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:48,680 Speaker 4: but I host a local show in San Diego, and 1256 01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:51,520 Speaker 4: we focus on the NFL so much so that there 1257 01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:55,440 Speaker 4: are times where we'll welcome on an injury specialist or 1258 01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:59,560 Speaker 4: a doctor who can speak about you know, potential candidates 1259 01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:02,240 Speaker 4: to return from injury or how severe an injury is, 1260 01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:05,480 Speaker 4: and it gives NFL betters an edge. 1261 01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:07,560 Speaker 3: There's websites devoted to this. 1262 01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:10,480 Speaker 4: You could have memberships to get you know, up to 1263 01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:13,760 Speaker 4: date injury news like live and up to the second. 1264 01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:17,800 Speaker 4: I mean, has all this made it easier or more 1265 01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:21,160 Speaker 4: difficult to handicap games? The flow of information for not 1266 01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:24,880 Speaker 4: only sports books but also the end user, which is 1267 01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:26,240 Speaker 4: the betters. 1268 01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:29,880 Speaker 11: I mean from from the booky standpoint, you know, it's 1269 01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:34,000 Speaker 11: still there can be ten thousand new websites of all 1270 01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,680 Speaker 11: different information that open up tomorrow and we still know 1271 01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:40,480 Speaker 11: who the betters are going to move the line and whatnot. Yeah, 1272 01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:43,640 Speaker 11: and as far as information goes, it is You're right. 1273 01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:46,160 Speaker 11: There is a million different angles you could take with 1274 01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:48,840 Speaker 11: betting literally any sports. You could be a guy who 1275 01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:50,840 Speaker 11: only bets off injury stuff. You could be a guy 1276 01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:53,080 Speaker 11: who maybe you got your own model that you think 1277 01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:56,400 Speaker 11: you have an edge on the on the market. But yeah, 1278 01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:59,120 Speaker 11: I mean from a betting perspective, I mean you just 1279 01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:03,320 Speaker 11: got to find what what you think gives you an edge, 1280 01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:04,960 Speaker 11: and then I mean you got to you gotta track it, 1281 01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:06,000 Speaker 11: you gotta back test it. 1282 01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:09,400 Speaker 2: I want to ask you nine questions at one Shaman. 1283 01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:11,600 Speaker 2: I don't know where's way to go, right because there's 1284 01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:15,200 Speaker 2: some sexy NFL matchups, But I'm just curious, because we 1285 01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:17,960 Speaker 2: talk prop bets a lot on the show, could you 1286 01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:22,560 Speaker 2: give us an idea at BETMGM, what percentage of the 1287 01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:27,720 Speaker 2: money you typically bring in is prop bets? Right, Like 1288 01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:30,440 Speaker 2: if you compare it to sides and totals, like you 1289 01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:32,960 Speaker 2: bet on this team, you bet on this over under, whatever, 1290 01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:36,600 Speaker 2: how much of what you bring in typically has to 1291 01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:38,160 Speaker 2: do with just props solely. 1292 01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:41,520 Speaker 11: I think it depends on the sport you're talking about, 1293 01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:44,840 Speaker 11: like when it comes to college sports, Like obviously for 1294 01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:46,880 Speaker 11: a while, like we didn't have a lot of problems 1295 01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:49,080 Speaker 11: this here for football and basketball, where we have more 1296 01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:52,240 Speaker 11: player off rings and you have more props that we offer. 1297 01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:54,760 Speaker 11: But it's still around like eighty percent on like the 1298 01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:58,800 Speaker 11: spread moneyline in total for college sports grand NFL, it's 1299 01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,520 Speaker 11: probably a little bit further down. I think probably between 1300 01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:05,280 Speaker 11: like sixty five seventy percent. At the end of the day, 1301 01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:07,800 Speaker 11: everyone's throwing in spreads and money lines and told in 1302 01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:12,360 Speaker 11: the parlays teasers, what have you. But I mean the 1303 01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:15,400 Speaker 11: more sports standing expanse, the more you're going to see 1304 01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,760 Speaker 11: just you know, heavy play on props, I think player props. Yea, 1305 01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:21,520 Speaker 11: you're already seeing kind of like a big boom right now. 1306 01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:22,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1307 01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:24,760 Speaker 7: And the difference is to you guys have much you know, 1308 01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:27,120 Speaker 7: smaller limits on the props than you do on the 1309 01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:30,320 Speaker 7: spreads and the totals, I'm assuming, and that allows you know, 1310 01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:32,280 Speaker 7: the big groups to come in and bet the spreads 1311 01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:34,439 Speaker 7: and totals where it is a little bit more recreational 1312 01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:37,320 Speaker 7: on the props, and that probably decreases to handle a 1313 01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:37,760 Speaker 7: little bit. 1314 01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:39,200 Speaker 6: All right, let's get into the games today. 1315 01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:41,040 Speaker 7: I mean, I guess the NFL is kind of the 1316 01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:43,040 Speaker 7: soup a jore now that we'll have Saturday games I 1317 01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:45,120 Speaker 7: think for the rest of the year until week eighteen. 1318 01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:48,680 Speaker 7: But it looks like Cincinnati right the value has kind 1319 01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:51,000 Speaker 7: of all been extracted from the Bengals. I'm assuming you're 1320 01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:53,920 Speaker 7: having trouble writing Pittsburgh money today, but maybe now that 1321 01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:56,160 Speaker 7: the lines at three, maybe a little more buyback on 1322 01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:57,200 Speaker 7: the Steelers at home. 1323 01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:01,720 Speaker 11: Trouble an understatement. It's one way. It's one way traffic 1324 01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:04,200 Speaker 11: on the Bengals. Yeah, we're going to need the Steelers 1325 01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:06,800 Speaker 11: preferably out right. I mean, you have a lot of 1326 01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:09,200 Speaker 11: people who bought a half point a full point down 1327 01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:12,760 Speaker 11: two on the Bengals as well. So I think Steelers, 1328 01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:15,520 Speaker 11: Steelers making this a very close game is going to 1329 01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:16,160 Speaker 11: be our need here. 1330 01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:20,520 Speaker 4: When I look at this Chargers spread, obviously they're dogged 1331 01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:23,960 Speaker 4: at home by twelve points. How difficult is it to 1332 01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:27,560 Speaker 4: gauge motivation when you're a sportsbook and even put a 1333 01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:31,400 Speaker 4: line on a game like this, because, I mean, the 1334 01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:35,480 Speaker 4: Chargers have close to nothing to play for individually, obviously, 1335 01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:37,440 Speaker 4: always in the NFL there's a lot to play for. 1336 01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,200 Speaker 4: All these players are putting out film. The Bills have 1337 01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,880 Speaker 4: so much more to play for. How difficult it is 1338 01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:46,200 Speaker 4: to spot the line to start to open at when 1339 01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:47,960 Speaker 4: you have a week like this in the NFL. 1340 01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:51,280 Speaker 11: Yeah, I think we opened something at like eleven, and 1341 01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:53,920 Speaker 11: we opened thirteen and a half. Actually came down to 1342 01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:56,040 Speaker 11: twelve and a half. I think it's I mean, you 1343 01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:58,040 Speaker 11: play in the NFL, you know like these guys, I mean, 1344 01:06:58,040 --> 01:06:59,560 Speaker 11: they're not going to go out there and just roll over. 1345 01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:01,880 Speaker 11: These guys are playing for their job next year, and 1346 01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:05,520 Speaker 11: you know their careers so it's hard to just make 1347 01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:07,480 Speaker 11: on there. They're just going to roll over. But I 1348 01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:10,800 Speaker 11: mean every everybody knows the motivation for the Bills. Uh, 1349 01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:16,160 Speaker 11: they have to win. So everyone's just lining up the Caesars. 1350 01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:16,680 Speaker 7: You name it. 1351 01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:22,280 Speaker 11: It's it's all Bills money. So well, well, God willing 1352 01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:25,800 Speaker 11: easton stick Christmas Miracle. 1353 01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:29,600 Speaker 6: I was there last Thursday, Jamous. It wasn't pretty, Bud. 1354 01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:32,360 Speaker 7: It was a stick shift manual transmission with that offense. 1355 01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:32,880 Speaker 1: I couldn't. 1356 01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:34,120 Speaker 11: I couldn't sat in that game. 1357 01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:36,240 Speaker 1: That was all goodness. 1358 01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:38,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, what did we watch before you go? 1359 01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:41,800 Speaker 2: Seamus? We got to know the Seamous special? How do 1360 01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:44,280 Speaker 2: we get rich this weekend? Today? Sunday? 1361 01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:47,720 Speaker 11: What do you have circled the football today? If I'm 1362 01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:52,760 Speaker 11: being blunt, thanks these games. So we're going to the 1363 01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:55,360 Speaker 11: We're going to the court, We're going to basketball. They 1364 01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:59,280 Speaker 11: have a great game today with Arizona playing f a 1365 01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:02,840 Speaker 11: U in Vegas today. Yeah, I'm gonna lay sticks and 1366 01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:05,120 Speaker 11: a half points of Arizona. I think this team is 1367 01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:07,360 Speaker 11: really really good. I think they come out and make 1368 01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:08,320 Speaker 11: another statement today. 1369 01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:09,080 Speaker 6: I like it. 1370 01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:11,920 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, well Seamus, thanks for the time. Man 1371 01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:13,240 Speaker 2: is always have a good weekend. 1372 01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:14,920 Speaker 3: Happy Holidays to you too, man. 1373 01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:15,640 Speaker 2: We'll catch you soon. 1374 01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:18,120 Speaker 6: Thanks guys, Mery Christmas bub. 1375 01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:21,880 Speaker 2: There he is Seamus McGhee, team lead at sports Trading 1376 01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:24,519 Speaker 2: at BEDMGM. You go from heavy hitter to heavy hitter. 1377 01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:28,479 Speaker 2: Huh Seamus to I Loo. What's the movie? Is it 1378 01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:31,800 Speaker 2: The Untouchables where they have all those A listers. That's 1379 01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:33,720 Speaker 2: what I feel like this section of the show is 1380 01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:36,720 Speaker 2: it's the Untouchables. I love with the latest. What's going on? 1381 01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:37,000 Speaker 1: Man? 1382 01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:40,760 Speaker 10: As they said in The Untouchables, that's the Chicago way, 1383 01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:46,240 Speaker 10: That's the Fox Sports Radio way. We start indeed in 1384 01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:49,599 Speaker 10: the NBA where on Friday Night, the Golden State Warriors 1385 01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:51,960 Speaker 10: to beat to the Washington Wizards one twenty nine to 1386 01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:55,559 Speaker 10: one eighteen. Steph Curry thirty points in just twenty seven minutes. 1387 01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:58,920 Speaker 10: He made eight three pointers. Sacamento over Phoenix one twenty 1388 01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:02,599 Speaker 10: to one oh five. Monte Simonis twenty eight points, eleven rebounds, 1389 01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:05,840 Speaker 10: twelve assist us fourth triple double of the season. At 1390 01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:09,360 Speaker 10: the Philadelphia seventy six ers toppled Toronto one twenty one 1391 01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:11,880 Speaker 10: to one eleven. Joel Andbi thirty one points and ten 1392 01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:16,599 Speaker 10: rebounds for his thirteenth consecutive thirty ten game. We have 1393 01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:20,519 Speaker 10: some fresh NBA news because literally just a few minutes ago, 1394 01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:26,760 Speaker 10: Lebron James tweeted the following quote, why do players have 1395 01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:29,719 Speaker 10: to be retired before going into the Hall of Fame? 1396 01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:35,400 Speaker 10: Coaches get in while still coaching, rightfully, so wondering what's 1397 01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:40,559 Speaker 10: the difference? Though unquote, well, not surprisingly people out there 1398 01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:44,800 Speaker 10: have some thoughts in the comments section. You don't say 1399 01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:51,320 Speaker 10: at lebronkitas lebronkitas that's a clever user name. Can't wait 1400 01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:54,240 Speaker 10: until you're the first NBA player to be inducted into 1401 01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:56,439 Speaker 10: the Hall of Fame while still playing in the league. 1402 01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:59,920 Speaker 10: Another great achievement in your pocket, just like the rest 1403 01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:01,840 Speaker 10: of your great achievements. 1404 01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:04,599 Speaker 9: Others, however, not feeling it. 1405 01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:08,960 Speaker 10: Galen commenting Broun needs some more accolades after the Mickey 1406 01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:13,519 Speaker 10: Mouse and in season title. Doug feels the same way, posting, 1407 01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:17,160 Speaker 10: I still think you're still about one bubble trophy and 1408 01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:21,600 Speaker 10: two in season banners away unquote and finally fellas in 1409 01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:28,400 Speaker 10: the NFL. This next item just proves that sometimes social 1410 01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:31,000 Speaker 10: media just might not be worth the trouble. There's just 1411 01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:33,800 Speaker 10: too many minefields out there. So the Cleveland Browns on 1412 01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:38,439 Speaker 10: social media innocently posted a very cute drawing of their 1413 01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:43,439 Speaker 10: players in cartoon form wearing Cleveland Brown's pajamas around a 1414 01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:46,640 Speaker 10: Christmas tree and a roaring fire in the fireplace, with 1415 01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:50,880 Speaker 10: presence the whole nine yards the whole holiday cozy theme. 1416 01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:55,200 Speaker 10: But fans quickly noticed that the Browns player who was 1417 01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:59,800 Speaker 10: depicted closest to the fireplace in the drawing was Tied 1418 01:10:59,880 --> 01:11:04,280 Speaker 10: End and David Najoku, who earlier this season suffered burns 1419 01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:07,880 Speaker 10: to his face and arms while trying to light a 1420 01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:12,479 Speaker 10: backyard fire. Ped Najoku himself a good sport about all this, 1421 01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:15,599 Speaker 10: commenting he all did not have to put me by 1422 01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:16,960 Speaker 10: the fire though. 1423 01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:20,160 Speaker 3: Back to you guys, thank you. 1424 01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:22,920 Speaker 2: I Lowe's Fox Sports Radio is Campdown to Kickoff, presented 1425 01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:26,000 Speaker 2: by bet MGM. Bet MGM is now available under one 1426 01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,240 Speaker 2: wallet and select states. For example, if you're in the 1427 01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:31,479 Speaker 2: DMV area, no need to worry about making separate accounts 1428 01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:35,080 Speaker 2: for DC, Maryland and Virginia and crossing state borders. Simply 1429 01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:37,960 Speaker 2: just log into your existing account instead of creating a 1430 01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:40,479 Speaker 2: new one. Man David and Jok, who has come on 1431 01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:43,360 Speaker 2: big time in the last couple of weeks. He's had 1432 01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:45,880 Speaker 2: a couple of really really good games, and he's funny. 1433 01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:48,639 Speaker 2: He talked about, gosh, what was it the Bears game 1434 01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:52,120 Speaker 2: last week? Were the Hail Mary? Very funny? The Bears 1435 01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:55,000 Speaker 2: almost caught the ball and won the game, and he 1436 01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:59,400 Speaker 2: said he nearly, you know, soiled himself. I guess we 1437 01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:03,360 Speaker 2: could say, right, Yeah, he's funny man. He's got a 1438 01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:04,240 Speaker 2: good sense of humor. 1439 01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:08,479 Speaker 4: I yeah, I mean, and talk about what a season 1440 01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:12,240 Speaker 4: for him from the standpoint of being one of, if 1441 01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:16,599 Speaker 4: not the best receiving option. How many quarterbacks have thrown 1442 01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:17,799 Speaker 4: footballs to him this season? 1443 01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:19,639 Speaker 3: Is it four? Is it five? 1444 01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:24,120 Speaker 4: Or yes, at least four, It's four dtr and Flacco 1445 01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:26,519 Speaker 4: and Deshaun Watson, I mean PJ. 1446 01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:30,719 Speaker 3: Walker then ye fourth. It's been absolutely. 1447 01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:32,759 Speaker 4: Absurd for the Cleveland Browns, and he's been a constant 1448 01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,920 Speaker 4: through it all. So not only a great personality, but 1449 01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:40,880 Speaker 4: a really great player. When you think about the obstacles 1450 01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:43,280 Speaker 4: to have any sort of success this season and. 1451 01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:45,200 Speaker 7: The Browns there, I mean, let's be honest, guys. They 1452 01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:47,679 Speaker 7: play the Texans this week without CJ. Stroud, they face 1453 01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:50,920 Speaker 7: the Jets next week without any semblance of anything really, 1454 01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:54,639 Speaker 7: and then they finished with the Bengals, that game could 1455 01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:57,720 Speaker 7: be win or go home in the AFC Wildcard. The 1456 01:12:57,760 --> 01:13:01,280 Speaker 7: way that it's shaken out so this Brown season has 1457 01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:04,439 Speaker 7: been I mean, Kevin Stefanski deserves all the flowers. 1458 01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:08,960 Speaker 2: It's interesting that same division, Bengals and the Browns. Yeah, 1459 01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:11,400 Speaker 2: well they both lose their quarterbacks, and a lot of 1460 01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:15,400 Speaker 2: people thought, well, no Burrow, they're cooked. No Deshaun Watson, 1461 01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:18,519 Speaker 2: it's over. And both teams are in the playoff picture. 1462 01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:21,840 Speaker 2: So they've they've done a really good job losing their 1463 01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:22,719 Speaker 2: their top guy. 1464 01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:25,000 Speaker 7: That's gonna be a big game Week eighteen. I just 1465 01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:26,920 Speaker 7: realized that looking at the Brown schedule, I mean the 1466 01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:28,880 Speaker 7: way that it's shaping out for both teams, I mean 1467 01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:31,559 Speaker 7: that's gonna be a massive I mean that rivalry too. 1468 01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:34,040 Speaker 3: Who yeah, yeah, absolutely are. 1469 01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:38,519 Speaker 2: We've got Rich Hornberger, Penn State All American NFL veteran 1470 01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:43,479 Speaker 2: live in LA today. We've got Jared Smith FSR betting analyst. 1471 01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:46,240 Speaker 2: I'm Brian. Now coming up next, we look at the 1472 01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:49,679 Speaker 2: prop bet market. Would you be interested if I told 1473 01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:56,280 Speaker 2: you this guy he actually quadrupled his yardage in the 1474 01:13:56,320 --> 01:14:00,880 Speaker 2: first matchup this season. Huh, He's an act today against 1475 01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:04,800 Speaker 2: the same team, could be begging for you to take 1476 01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:06,760 Speaker 2: the over in this Well, we'll see if I can 1477 01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:09,000 Speaker 2: talk you into it. Right around the corner, it is 1478 01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:13,160 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radios Countdown to Kickoff presented by BETMGM. It 1479 01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:17,480 Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Radios Compdown to Kickoff presented by bet MGM. 1480 01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:19,920 Speaker 2: Be sure to check out the new looking features in 1481 01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:22,560 Speaker 2: the betmgm app. It's fast and easy access to the 1482 01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:26,280 Speaker 2: sports you love, whether it's teasers, live betting, the Daily 1483 01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:29,400 Speaker 2: Lions Boost, or the cash out feature. 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Good Lord Jared, 1494 01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:03,600 Speaker 2: We'll start with you. What do you like? 1495 01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:05,960 Speaker 7: Well, I know we don't love the college card today, 1496 01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:07,640 Speaker 7: But I have an angle here to present to you 1497 01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:10,439 Speaker 7: fine folk, to see if you'll come with me on 1498 01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:11,000 Speaker 7: this prop. 1499 01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:13,040 Speaker 6: And it's in the Hawaii Bowl later tonight. 1500 01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:15,639 Speaker 7: I'm wearing the Rainbow Warrior shirt tonight. I'm very excited 1501 01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:18,479 Speaker 7: for this game at San Jose State Coastal Carolina, and 1502 01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:23,679 Speaker 7: I think Chevin Cordero's passing yards, passing touchdowns, anything passing 1503 01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:26,799 Speaker 7: related is a good look to be over. Why well, 1504 01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:28,800 Speaker 7: there's just a lot of good vibes for the San 1505 01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:31,280 Speaker 7: Jose State team on the islands. Of course, Vin used 1506 01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:35,200 Speaker 7: to play at Hawaii. You've got the coach Brennan is 1507 01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:38,360 Speaker 7: the cousin of the former or the late former Hawaii 1508 01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:41,479 Speaker 7: quarterback Colt Brennan. And it's Chevin's last game, so I 1509 01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:43,120 Speaker 7: just think there's gonna be a lot of positive things 1510 01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:44,840 Speaker 7: for the San Jose State team. You might hear about 1511 01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:46,519 Speaker 7: them a little later in the show. We're gonna go 1512 01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:49,800 Speaker 7: over on Cordero's passing yards prop in this game. I 1513 01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:52,439 Speaker 7: think he's gonna go out in style on the Islands tonight. 1514 01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:56,799 Speaker 4: I love college football props during bowl weeks because you 1515 01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:58,439 Speaker 4: can you can really get an edge there. 1516 01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:01,080 Speaker 3: But I take us to the l for mine. 1517 01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:05,519 Speaker 4: Focusing on this Saturday night tilt between the Bills and 1518 01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:09,720 Speaker 4: the Chargers at SOFI Stadium. James Cook twenty four and 1519 01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:12,479 Speaker 4: a half receiving yards. I think there're gonna be times 1520 01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:15,880 Speaker 4: where Josh Allen's under duress and the screen game may 1521 01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:18,200 Speaker 4: need to come into play. So I'm taking the over 1522 01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:20,760 Speaker 4: on the twenty four and a half receiving yards there 1523 01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:23,519 Speaker 4: out of the Bills backfield. Staying with the Bills, I 1524 01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:25,840 Speaker 4: think they're gonna feed the need. There's a need to 1525 01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:29,720 Speaker 4: get Digs more touches, So six and a half receptions 1526 01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:30,400 Speaker 4: on the game. 1527 01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:33,040 Speaker 3: I think if they're gonna throw the football at all in. 1528 01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:35,040 Speaker 4: This game, they're gonna focus on getting it into his 1529 01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:37,960 Speaker 4: hands a lot. So Stefan Diggs. I'm taking the over 1530 01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:42,400 Speaker 4: on the six and a half receptions, and Dicker the kicker, 1531 01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:47,000 Speaker 4: Aaron Zicker. He's got a number of plays to in 1532 01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:49,519 Speaker 4: terms of kicking points at five and a half, I 1533 01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:53,000 Speaker 4: like the over there as well. I think the Chargers 1534 01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:56,360 Speaker 4: will stall out in the fringe if they get to 1535 01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:58,880 Speaker 4: the Bills side of the field, and you can feast 1536 01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:00,240 Speaker 4: on the kicking game. 1537 01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:03,160 Speaker 3: Scoring the majority of the points in this one for LA. 1538 01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:04,920 Speaker 6: How great was that promo this week? 1539 01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:05,760 Speaker 3: Oh my god? 1540 01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:06,200 Speaker 7: Good? 1541 01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:10,840 Speaker 2: So looking for Pro Bowl Volte and it was a 1542 01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:15,080 Speaker 2: better call Saul. Theme is so well done, by the way, 1543 01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:18,400 Speaker 2: quick story for you, especially Jared. You mentioned the late 1544 01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:22,320 Speaker 2: great Colt Brennan. Yeah, former Hawaii quarterback. So I was 1545 01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:26,439 Speaker 2: in Fresno doing radio years ago Hawaii beat Fresno State. 1546 01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:29,439 Speaker 2: I interviewed Colt in the parking lot after the game. 1547 01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:32,040 Speaker 2: It's like he was tailgating with a bunch of his friends. 1548 01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:34,280 Speaker 2: I interviewed him and he's like, where are you going 1549 01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:35,280 Speaker 2: hang out with us? 1550 01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:39,679 Speaker 7: Man Like, hey, it's a good story. And the coach 1551 01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:41,960 Speaker 7: was wearing the jersey to the press conference this week. 1552 01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,040 Speaker 7: I like San Jose State later tonight too. I'm feeling 1553 01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:45,519 Speaker 7: the hell vibes. 1554 01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:51,280 Speaker 2: I'm looking at the Steelers Bengals matchup today and I've 1555 01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:53,080 Speaker 2: got my eye on move. 1556 01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:55,719 Speaker 6: It's our guy, tied. 1557 01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:57,040 Speaker 3: In Pat Fryer Mooth. 1558 01:17:57,360 --> 01:18:01,880 Speaker 2: Now here's the thing. The Bengals are awful covering tight 1559 01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:04,800 Speaker 2: ends one of the worst teams in the league, and 1560 01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:08,599 Speaker 2: Mouth hit him up for nine catches for a buck 1561 01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:13,479 Speaker 2: twenty wow in the first matchup. His receiving prop is 1562 01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:16,800 Speaker 2: twenty five and a half as far as receiving yardage goes. 1563 01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:19,960 Speaker 2: And I know Mason Rudolph is in there today and 1564 01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:23,320 Speaker 2: it was Kenny Pickett in the previous matchup. But what 1565 01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:25,599 Speaker 2: do you think Mason Rudolph is gonna do when he's 1566 01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:28,880 Speaker 2: throwing the ball. He's gonna look for old reliable, He's 1567 01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:31,479 Speaker 2: gonna look for muth. He's gonna look over the middle. 1568 01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:35,000 Speaker 2: He's gonna look for favorable matchups. And if the Bengals 1569 01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:37,400 Speaker 2: stink it covering tight ends, wouldn't you throw it to 1570 01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:40,280 Speaker 2: your tight end? So I've got mouth going over twenty 1571 01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:41,280 Speaker 2: five and a half today. 1572 01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:42,040 Speaker 6: I do like that. 1573 01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:47,240 Speaker 7: And again, Mason's been there a while and so is Pat. 1574 01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:49,400 Speaker 7: Like those guys have been through it. I want to 1575 01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:52,559 Speaker 7: say when Mason made when his first stint as the 1576 01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:55,160 Speaker 7: starter in Pittsburgh, Pat was still there. I might be 1577 01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:57,280 Speaker 7: off by a year or two, but those guys have 1578 01:18:57,400 --> 01:18:59,960 Speaker 7: been in the ringer for a while with that Steelers Frank. 1579 01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:04,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, Mason Rudolph, I believe if he's not the most tenured, 1580 01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:07,200 Speaker 4: he's one of. Yeah, certainly the most tenured. 1581 01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:09,280 Speaker 7: Pittsburgh twenty one was his last start. 1582 01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:10,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's been a while. 1583 01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:13,000 Speaker 6: That's two years in the NFL. That's it's a long 1584 01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:13,799 Speaker 6: time in the NFL. 1585 01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:18,640 Speaker 2: A lot of interesting prop potential bets in that Bengals 1586 01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:21,839 Speaker 2: Steelers game. It's not gonna be like wide open offense. 1587 01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:26,320 Speaker 2: But some of these numbers are so grossly low where 1588 01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:31,519 Speaker 2: you're like, no Jamar Chase. Maybe Trederwin gets there all right? 1589 01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:35,720 Speaker 2: Coming up next, the biggest matchup of the weekend. Oh 1590 01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:40,760 Speaker 2: what's going on everybody? Week sixteen in the NFL. A 1591 01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:46,120 Speaker 2: little doubleheader today? How about the Peacock exclusive game? 1592 01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:49,320 Speaker 3: Right which is the Bills? Huh? 1593 01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:50,920 Speaker 6: I gotta sign up for Peacock tonight? 1594 01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:52,400 Speaker 2: Yeah? Fired up for that? 1595 01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:52,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1596 01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:55,880 Speaker 6: I call it when five bucks for that one. 1597 01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:58,360 Speaker 3: It's like it's a crock. I call it pa krock 1598 01:19:58,720 --> 01:19:59,320 Speaker 3: p crack. 1599 01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:03,639 Speaker 7: It's like during a football season, usually right when football 1600 01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:05,800 Speaker 7: season starts, I always have to sign up for a 1601 01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:08,839 Speaker 7: trial to some service to get the PAC twelve network. 1602 01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:14,160 Speaker 4: And by the way, all these things work like for me, 1603 01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:20,680 Speaker 4: I'm I am their target demographic in terms of the 1604 01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:23,639 Speaker 4: guy who will sign up for Peacock for this game 1605 01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:26,439 Speaker 4: because I will yep. And then the guy who will 1606 01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:31,519 Speaker 4: inevitably never cancel this subscription, right, Yeah, it'll just get 1607 01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:36,040 Speaker 4: baked into the monthlies and I'll look at eventually, I'm 1608 01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:39,599 Speaker 4: sure years from now, decade from now, when i'm looking at, 1609 01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:40,080 Speaker 4: you know. 1610 01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:42,240 Speaker 3: Whatever these prices subscriptions go up to. 1611 01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:45,559 Speaker 4: I'm looking at something like eight hundred dollars in streaming services, 1612 01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:47,800 Speaker 4: and I'm just like, all right, we need to start 1613 01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:51,200 Speaker 4: trimming these down. Peacock actually may make the final list 1614 01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:54,800 Speaker 4: of cuts we'll find, but it's gonna be eight years 1615 01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:56,519 Speaker 4: or more from this point moving forward. 1616 01:20:56,560 --> 01:21:00,200 Speaker 2: For Rich Hornberger, well, hey, you don't need Peacock or 1617 01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:03,519 Speaker 2: Christmas Day. You don't need it for the nightcap. And 1618 01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:06,280 Speaker 2: this is the game of the week. It is Ravens, 1619 01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:10,040 Speaker 2: forty nine ers, a couple of eleven and three teams. 1620 01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:13,759 Speaker 2: First off, how do you feel for the NBA? Adam 1621 01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:17,439 Speaker 2: Silver's like, this used to be our day, man, we 1622 01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:22,519 Speaker 2: owned Christmas Day, not anymore. And the nightcap is a 1623 01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:27,120 Speaker 2: juicy matchup to say the least. I mean, listen, the Niners. 1624 01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:30,240 Speaker 2: The first thing I think about is their rush defense. 1625 01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:34,960 Speaker 2: They gave up two hundred and thirty four rushing yards 1626 01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:39,440 Speaker 2: against the Cardinals last week. Yeah, they had Javon Hargrave 1627 01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:40,839 Speaker 2: and Eric Armstead. 1628 01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:43,479 Speaker 3: They were banged up, They're still banged up. 1629 01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:47,880 Speaker 2: So the question is can the Niners defensive front can 1630 01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:51,840 Speaker 2: they slow down the Ravens running game, because that's where 1631 01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:55,680 Speaker 2: the Ravens specialize. And no Keaton Mitchell, who is a 1632 01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:59,479 Speaker 2: really good a change of pace running back for the Ravens, 1633 01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:00,599 Speaker 2: gave them some juice. 1634 01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:01,639 Speaker 3: He's not in there. 1635 01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:05,040 Speaker 2: And so I want to see can Gus Edwards and 1636 01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:07,920 Speaker 2: Lamar and that running game can they get the better 1637 01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:11,480 Speaker 2: of the Niners, Because if the Ravens win that matchup, 1638 01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:14,200 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, they've got a puncher's chance to 1639 01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:16,000 Speaker 2: win this thing, or at least keep it a fourth 1640 01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:17,000 Speaker 2: quarter game late. 1641 01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:21,160 Speaker 4: You know what's crazy about this matchup is I start 1642 01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:26,560 Speaker 4: looking at rosters and comparing position groups and start legislating 1643 01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:31,280 Speaker 4: where I give the biggest edge. And obviously, in many 1644 01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:35,879 Speaker 4: facets I give that to the forty nine ers. Overall, however, 1645 01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:40,200 Speaker 4: at quarterback I give the Ravens the edge except in 1646 01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:45,920 Speaker 4: one very important and frankly quantitative value. You can measure 1647 01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:50,360 Speaker 4: this when playing from behind. I think I trust brock 1648 01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:53,760 Speaker 4: Perty more than I trust Lamar Jackson. I don't know 1649 01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:56,360 Speaker 4: often have you seen that, though well? And that's the problem. 1650 01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:58,720 Speaker 4: You haven't seen it. You haven't seen it a ton. 1651 01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:03,559 Speaker 4: But I trust the composure of Brock Purdy more than 1652 01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:07,160 Speaker 4: that of Lamar Jackson. I think he is a great 1653 01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:10,519 Speaker 4: front runner player. But I think when we're talking about 1654 01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:14,879 Speaker 4: arm talent, when we're talking about picking spots for important throws, 1655 01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:19,360 Speaker 4: when we're talking about pushing the ball down the field deep, deep, 1656 01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:23,920 Speaker 4: deep passing thrower, you know, air yards, things like that 1657 01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:27,120 Speaker 4: down the sideline when it counts, I trust Brock perty 1658 01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:31,679 Speaker 4: in that very important intangible quality. Then I do Lamar Jackson. 1659 01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:34,519 Speaker 4: He's just not and never has been a great deep 1660 01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:38,000 Speaker 4: ball thrower. He's not a great come up from behind artists. 1661 01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:41,439 Speaker 4: And the Baltimore Ravens obviously obviously has built a great 1662 01:23:41,439 --> 01:23:43,720 Speaker 4: team around him, and he has not been in that 1663 01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:46,760 Speaker 4: situation a lot. To your point, Brian, but that is 1664 01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:50,080 Speaker 4: the one place that I give the forty nine ers 1665 01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:54,120 Speaker 4: an edge in terms of the quarterback conversation. So if 1666 01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:56,519 Speaker 4: they roar out to an early lead, I think it's 1667 01:23:56,560 --> 01:23:58,080 Speaker 4: a long, hard day for the Ravens. 1668 01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:00,920 Speaker 7: The follow up I have is, do you trust Brock 1669 01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:03,679 Speaker 7: Purty or do you trust Kyle Shanahan? Like I think 1670 01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:08,439 Speaker 7: it's more Shanahan's mind through the body of Brock, who 1671 01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:11,280 Speaker 7: has been like if you were gonna look up in 1672 01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:15,640 Speaker 7: the dictionary sports cliche, game manager like Brock Purty is 1673 01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:19,679 Speaker 7: like the elite game manager because he is a perfect 1674 01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:22,320 Speaker 7: fit for And I don't use that in a derogatory sense. 1675 01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:25,400 Speaker 7: In fact, I use it in a complimentary sense. I 1676 01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:30,040 Speaker 7: think the best quarterbacks in today's NFL. You obviously have 1677 01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:32,439 Speaker 7: the elites, right the Mahomes types, and those guys are 1678 01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:34,800 Speaker 7: in a category by themselves. But let's be honest, there's 1679 01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:36,800 Speaker 7: one of them, maybe you know, one and a half. 1680 01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:39,240 Speaker 7: If you want to include some of the other great 1681 01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:41,479 Speaker 7: quarterbacks like the Josh Allens and the Joe Burrows, I 1682 01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:43,200 Speaker 7: put them maybe in that tier as well. But for 1683 01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:46,879 Speaker 7: the most part, eighty five ninety percent of the quarterbacks 1684 01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:48,840 Speaker 7: in the NFL are kind of hovering in that mediocrity 1685 01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:51,240 Speaker 7: ranger right below. And it's the coaching staff, the scheme, 1686 01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:53,759 Speaker 7: the execution in the offensive line. All of those things 1687 01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:56,720 Speaker 7: have to be executed to perfection in order for the 1688 01:24:56,720 --> 01:24:59,280 Speaker 7: offense to be operating a peak capacity. I think the 1689 01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:04,120 Speaker 7: Niners do that the best. Where Brock is obviously making 1690 01:25:04,160 --> 01:25:06,000 Speaker 7: the decision. He's making the throws, and you give him 1691 01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:07,840 Speaker 7: a lot of credit. He's got all the stats and 1692 01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:09,800 Speaker 7: he deserves to be the MVP right now based on 1693 01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:12,200 Speaker 7: the way the season is trending. But a lot of 1694 01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:15,400 Speaker 7: the credit is that roster, the makeup, the scheme, and 1695 01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:18,240 Speaker 7: the talent around him. So it will be a very 1696 01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:21,679 Speaker 7: fascinating game. I think, based off of the number we're 1697 01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:24,120 Speaker 7: starting the leak towards San Francisco, I'm starting to hear 1698 01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:28,519 Speaker 7: some very sharp, smart opinions more in the Niners corner here, 1699 01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:31,840 Speaker 7: and I understand why I bet the over in this 1700 01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:33,360 Speaker 7: game early in the week at forty six and a 1701 01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:35,640 Speaker 7: half is forty seven. Now you can still bet that 1702 01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:38,679 Speaker 7: to the over. I just think both of these offenses, frankly, 1703 01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:40,600 Speaker 7: are going to be on display. I really like what 1704 01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:43,160 Speaker 7: I've seen lately from Lamar Jackson. He looks like a 1705 01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:47,400 Speaker 7: wizard out there. He is like Magellan, like you can't 1706 01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:49,240 Speaker 7: find him, you don't know where he is in the pocket. 1707 01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:51,639 Speaker 7: You have the Jaguars that were going through a loop 1708 01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:53,840 Speaker 7: last week trying to figure out how to tackle this guy. 1709 01:25:54,479 --> 01:25:57,400 Speaker 7: And on the other side, you have this perfectly executed, 1710 01:25:57,560 --> 01:26:01,080 Speaker 7: well oiled machine. So both offens I think, have their 1711 01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:03,479 Speaker 7: their way of moving it, and my guesses we do 1712 01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:04,880 Speaker 7: see a lot of fireworks in this game. 1713 01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:09,240 Speaker 2: It's interesting because it could go that way. Jared. The 1714 01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:11,240 Speaker 2: thing I keep going back to is you look at 1715 01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:14,839 Speaker 2: these defenses. The Ravens they've held teams to an NFL 1716 01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:18,799 Speaker 2: best sixteen point one points per game, and the Niners 1717 01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:22,559 Speaker 2: are second best. They hold opponents to sixteen point seven 1718 01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:27,120 Speaker 2: points per game. So the total really stands out to 1719 01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:30,200 Speaker 2: me also at forty seven right now. Like you said, Jared, 1720 01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:32,880 Speaker 2: I'm just curious it could go the way you're saying. 1721 01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:36,480 Speaker 2: Where you look at Lamar and last week against Jacksonville, 1722 01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:39,720 Speaker 2: they're showing him by time he's buying like eight or 1723 01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:41,960 Speaker 2: ten seconds. It's insane. 1724 01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:43,200 Speaker 6: Can't cover that long. 1725 01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:46,640 Speaker 2: You cannot do that. You can't cover like that. But 1726 01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:50,240 Speaker 2: I'm just curious against these two defenses that have done 1727 01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:54,439 Speaker 2: a great, great job limiting points, are we gonna see 1728 01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:56,679 Speaker 2: not a slugfest. This isn't gonna be like an old 1729 01:26:56,680 --> 01:26:59,760 Speaker 2: school thirteen to ten game when it was like Joe 1730 01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:03,120 Speaker 2: Myia Tanna and Phil Simms and it's Niners giants or 1731 01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:04,880 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But it's not gonna be 1732 01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:07,280 Speaker 2: like that, but could it be lower than forty seven? 1733 01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:09,680 Speaker 2: I could see that happening. The thing I want to 1734 01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:13,200 Speaker 2: mention is when you look at quarterbacks, right Lamar and 1735 01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:16,360 Speaker 2: brock Purty, and it's something that you said, Jared, where 1736 01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:21,200 Speaker 2: game manager it's often said like Cam Newton just said it, 1737 01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:24,879 Speaker 2: it's meant as a diss and a lot of times 1738 01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:28,280 Speaker 2: it is a compliment where I think we get hung 1739 01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:32,719 Speaker 2: up on these intangibles sometimes where there's nothing wrong. Josh 1740 01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:36,920 Speaker 2: Allen has great intangibles Rich you said this earlier, elite intangibles, 1741 01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:41,719 Speaker 2: but sometimes he's turnover prone. Sometimes he'll make a big 1742 01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:44,720 Speaker 2: mistake in a key moment. And if you look at 1743 01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:48,280 Speaker 2: a guy like brock Purty, there's oftenimes where you look 1744 01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:49,799 Speaker 2: at it and say, well, he doesn't have the elite 1745 01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:53,639 Speaker 2: and tangibles. Well, that's true, but he might not commit 1746 01:27:53,800 --> 01:27:57,280 Speaker 2: the big error in the big moment because he leans 1747 01:27:57,400 --> 01:28:00,320 Speaker 2: more toward the game manager's side. The whole point is 1748 01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:04,599 Speaker 2: sometimes the game manager side, depending on the matchup and 1749 01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:08,559 Speaker 2: depending on the situation, that's better. That's better than the 1750 01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:12,040 Speaker 2: elite in tangibles, which sometimes can end up screwing you 1751 01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:12,679 Speaker 2: at the end. 1752 01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:13,040 Speaker 3: Of the day. 1753 01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:18,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, I have a decidedly San Francisco Lean in this game. 1754 01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:21,800 Speaker 4: I think that I think the forty nine ers for 1755 01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:24,719 Speaker 4: a lot of reasons that you just explained right there. 1756 01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:28,360 Speaker 4: I just think they're a better built team in a 1757 01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:32,120 Speaker 4: lot of different ways. And it focuses around Kyle Shanahan 1758 01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:35,679 Speaker 4: first to your point earlier, Jard, but also brock Perty 1759 01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:38,360 Speaker 4: is a special quarterback. I don't care what anybody says 1760 01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:42,040 Speaker 4: about scheme fit. And you know, with a different situation, 1761 01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:46,120 Speaker 4: how he would look, because that's how Tom Brady's career began. 1762 01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:49,599 Speaker 4: Even when he was winning Super Bowls early in his career, 1763 01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:51,759 Speaker 4: he was still labeled as a game manager. 1764 01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:53,080 Speaker 3: Well, you're labeled as. 1765 01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:55,800 Speaker 4: A game manager up until a point and then people 1766 01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:58,240 Speaker 4: can't say that anymore, and then all of a sudden 1767 01:28:58,280 --> 01:29:01,160 Speaker 4: they say, oh no, there isn't intentible quality here that's 1768 01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:03,799 Speaker 4: different from the rest of the league. 1769 01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:06,120 Speaker 3: And maybe it's clutch factor. 1770 01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:09,840 Speaker 4: Maybe it's the fact that you show up every single day, 1771 01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:13,120 Speaker 4: every single game, every single play, and you are a 1772 01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:16,639 Speaker 4: difference maker because you're not, to your point, Brian, going 1773 01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:20,400 Speaker 4: to put your team in a situation where you're the problem. 1774 01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:23,080 Speaker 4: You will refuse to be the problem, you will only 1775 01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:25,880 Speaker 4: be the solution. So you look at Drew Brees, great 1776 01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:30,040 Speaker 4: decision maker, very accurate passer, but the biggest, most important 1777 01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:32,400 Speaker 4: part of his game was he was so careful with 1778 01:29:32,439 --> 01:29:36,479 Speaker 4: the football, and Sean Payton and him they really thrived 1779 01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:40,800 Speaker 4: off of that because they had such good defenses alongside 1780 01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:45,120 Speaker 4: a very efficient offense. Same thing in New England with 1781 01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:48,479 Speaker 4: Tom Brady and the Patriots for a twenty year run. 1782 01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:53,000 Speaker 4: Great defenses, efficient offense, and then at times you had 1783 01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:55,840 Speaker 4: game breakers like Randy Moss come around and for two 1784 01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:59,280 Speaker 4: years you could dominate the league in certain statistic qualities. 1785 01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:02,120 Speaker 4: Well that's what's happening with the San Francisco forty nine ers. 1786 01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:06,400 Speaker 4: Not good, great defense, really stout pass rush. You have 1787 01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:08,160 Speaker 4: all the things that you need to make a deep 1788 01:30:08,160 --> 01:30:10,880 Speaker 4: postseason run. And then, on top of it, one of 1789 01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:13,920 Speaker 4: the most efficient quarterbacks in the league who appears to 1790 01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:17,120 Speaker 4: have ice water in his veins when the moments matter 1791 01:30:17,200 --> 01:30:20,800 Speaker 4: the most. So I agree with you, Lamar Jackson intangibly 1792 01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:24,280 Speaker 4: impresses me, maybe more than any other quarterback in the 1793 01:30:24,320 --> 01:30:29,160 Speaker 4: league right now. However, brock Perty's composure and the catchable 1794 01:30:29,479 --> 01:30:33,200 Speaker 4: or should say the catchability of those deep passes when 1795 01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:35,120 Speaker 4: they need a lean on him to make a play. 1796 01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:37,760 Speaker 4: Is part of the secret sauce that makes the forty 1797 01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:39,639 Speaker 4: nine ers go yeah. 1798 01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:42,559 Speaker 7: I think this is going to be a different different 1799 01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:44,880 Speaker 7: offense this week, or at least a different vibe to 1800 01:30:44,920 --> 01:30:47,320 Speaker 7: this offense than what we saw last week with the Ravens. 1801 01:30:47,880 --> 01:30:51,040 Speaker 7: Last week, I mean, they were very fortunate. The Jaguars, 1802 01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:55,240 Speaker 7: I think had four drives inside the forty that resulted 1803 01:30:55,280 --> 01:31:00,320 Speaker 7: in zero points and Baltimore was able to just kind 1804 01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:02,519 Speaker 7: of run it left, right and center, and then Lamar 1805 01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:06,320 Speaker 7: Jackson was making you know, improvisation plays and that was enough. 1806 01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:09,439 Speaker 7: I don't think that's gonna be enough this week. They're 1807 01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:12,759 Speaker 7: gonna have to show us their best stuff on offense. 1808 01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:15,920 Speaker 7: And I think this is the week where you pay 1809 01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:18,639 Speaker 7: Todd Munkin in the offseason to come be the offensive coordinator. 1810 01:31:18,640 --> 01:31:20,639 Speaker 7: Of course, we saw what he did at Georgia last year, 1811 01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:22,720 Speaker 7: and make no mistake about it, we think of the 1812 01:31:22,760 --> 01:31:25,879 Speaker 7: SEC as maybe this defensive No. Georgia was an offensive 1813 01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:28,320 Speaker 7: team last year. They're an offensive team this year, and 1814 01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:31,320 Speaker 7: it was in large part because of Todd Munkin's ability 1815 01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:36,679 Speaker 7: to just craft a plan. I think getting Lamar Jackson. 1816 01:31:36,920 --> 01:31:39,719 Speaker 7: His receivers involved early in this game is gonna be huge. 1817 01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:42,240 Speaker 7: You want to get Odell comfortable. I think Odell might 1818 01:31:42,240 --> 01:31:44,719 Speaker 7: have a really big game. This game was built for him. 1819 01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:49,400 Speaker 7: The the Niners are where they are weakest defensively is 1820 01:31:49,439 --> 01:31:51,960 Speaker 7: in the secondary, and they've given up some explosive plays 1821 01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:54,479 Speaker 7: this year. You saw it last week against Arizona, and 1822 01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:57,120 Speaker 7: you've seen it multiple times to Cincinnati a couple of 1823 01:31:57,120 --> 01:32:00,000 Speaker 7: games they lost this year justin Jefferson kind of, you know, 1824 01:32:00,160 --> 01:32:01,560 Speaker 7: tore them up or not Jefferson. I think it was 1825 01:32:01,560 --> 01:32:05,040 Speaker 7: Addison in that game against the Vikings. But they've given 1826 01:32:05,120 --> 01:32:08,479 Speaker 7: up big plays like That's how you get Lamar comfortable early. 1827 01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:11,280 Speaker 7: You let him throw it deep. He can throw the 1828 01:32:11,320 --> 01:32:13,479 Speaker 7: deep ball. And they've got a couple of weapons here 1829 01:32:13,479 --> 01:32:16,439 Speaker 7: with Flowers and Odell and with Keaton Mitchell out. I 1830 01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:19,719 Speaker 7: think that changes the offense even more where it's gonna 1831 01:32:19,720 --> 01:32:22,679 Speaker 7: be more reliant on the passing game. 1832 01:32:22,720 --> 01:32:25,240 Speaker 6: So I think this is a you let Lamar. 1833 01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:25,559 Speaker 3: Be the MVP. 1834 01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:27,000 Speaker 7: If he's the MVP of the league, you go in 1835 01:32:27,040 --> 01:32:30,000 Speaker 7: the Niners then on Christmas Night and you show them why. 1836 01:32:30,040 --> 01:32:31,759 Speaker 7: And I think this is going to be an aggressive 1837 01:32:31,800 --> 01:32:33,439 Speaker 7: offensive game plan early from Baltimore. 1838 01:32:33,479 --> 01:32:36,680 Speaker 2: In this game, it's a heavyweight fight, man, Yeah, it 1839 01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:40,960 Speaker 2: really is. And fun It's funny too because if you 1840 01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:43,960 Speaker 2: look at lamar great stat where he's nineteen and one 1841 01:32:44,240 --> 01:32:47,760 Speaker 2: in his career against NFC teams, and I think, if 1842 01:32:47,760 --> 01:32:50,760 Speaker 2: you're doing a whole box in comparison, I think that 1843 01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:54,200 Speaker 2: Lamar's style as a football player, if you haven't seen 1844 01:32:54,240 --> 01:32:57,679 Speaker 2: it before, you're just like, what just happened? 1845 01:32:57,800 --> 01:32:58,360 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. 1846 01:32:58,439 --> 01:33:01,240 Speaker 2: It'd be like getting into a ring with a really 1847 01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:04,080 Speaker 2: good fighter whose style is just so different. You're like, 1848 01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:06,200 Speaker 2: for the first two or three rounds, you're just like, 1849 01:33:06,360 --> 01:33:09,160 Speaker 2: I don't even know what's going on at this point. 1850 01:33:10,040 --> 01:33:12,599 Speaker 2: So I think that can give Lamar and the Ravens 1851 01:33:12,600 --> 01:33:15,240 Speaker 2: an advantage at least early in the game, until the 1852 01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:19,040 Speaker 2: Niners start to feel it out and get a sense 1853 01:33:19,040 --> 01:33:21,439 Speaker 2: for how things are going. The other thing, though, is 1854 01:33:22,280 --> 01:33:25,000 Speaker 2: if we're doing this whole boxing thing again, I think 1855 01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:30,479 Speaker 2: sometimes guys like Lamar Josh Allen, they're ahead on points, 1856 01:33:30,520 --> 01:33:32,720 Speaker 2: but they're still looking for a knockout, you know what 1857 01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:35,040 Speaker 2: I mean. They're still trying to make the special play, 1858 01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:38,760 Speaker 2: and every now and then it's unnecessary it's better to 1859 01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:42,240 Speaker 2: just hey, man, Floyd Mayweather, this thing on home, you know, 1860 01:33:42,760 --> 01:33:45,080 Speaker 2: like here ahead on points, you don't need to look 1861 01:33:45,120 --> 01:33:47,960 Speaker 2: for a knockout and leave yourself a little bit more vulnerable. 1862 01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:51,400 Speaker 2: Just cruise on in and win this thing. You don't 1863 01:33:51,439 --> 01:33:53,720 Speaker 2: have to win just based on knockout. And so I 1864 01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:56,639 Speaker 2: want to see if Lamar can do that. Can he 1865 01:33:56,840 --> 01:34:01,160 Speaker 2: find the blend of being special making jaw dropping place 1866 01:34:01,240 --> 01:34:04,400 Speaker 2: but not the big mistake that comes back to bite him. Yeah, 1867 01:34:04,439 --> 01:34:09,280 Speaker 2: because Brock Purty just stylistically, he's more like Floyd Mayweather. 1868 01:34:09,320 --> 01:34:11,519 Speaker 2: He's gonna get up on points and then he's not 1869 01:34:11,560 --> 01:34:14,720 Speaker 2: gonna do anything drastic or reckless. And a lot of 1870 01:34:14,720 --> 01:34:16,080 Speaker 2: times that's a winning formula. 1871 01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:19,280 Speaker 4: And and when you and when you pressure Brock, he 1872 01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:22,000 Speaker 4: stays in the pocket and he delivers bullets like the 1873 01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:25,600 Speaker 4: guy just finds the open receiver. I mean, you know 1874 01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:28,439 Speaker 4: similarly about Lamar Jackson, though, like you said, this is 1875 01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:30,280 Speaker 4: a title fight. This is gonna be such a fun 1876 01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:34,439 Speaker 4: matchup to watch. He's actually better when he's pressured and 1877 01:34:34,479 --> 01:34:37,840 Speaker 4: he's improvising, and he's better against man coverage than he 1878 01:34:37,880 --> 01:34:39,240 Speaker 4: has against zone. 1879 01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:40,920 Speaker 3: Because typically you're pressured more in man. 1880 01:34:40,720 --> 01:34:45,200 Speaker 4: Coverage because he has an incredible ability to move his 1881 01:34:45,240 --> 01:34:50,320 Speaker 4: feet and actually increase his ability to throw catchable football 1882 01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:52,439 Speaker 4: when he's improvising that. 1883 01:34:52,439 --> 01:34:55,759 Speaker 3: That's that's all. That says a lot about his talent. 1884 01:34:56,360 --> 01:34:59,080 Speaker 4: But but again, if you can hem him in, if 1885 01:34:59,080 --> 01:35:01,680 Speaker 4: you can keep him in the pocket, if you can 1886 01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:04,280 Speaker 4: find a way to limit the damage he does in 1887 01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:07,559 Speaker 4: the planned run game, and you really you try to 1888 01:35:07,560 --> 01:35:10,719 Speaker 4: make him beat you with your arm, especially playing from behind. 1889 01:35:11,479 --> 01:35:15,479 Speaker 4: That is has always been the rubric for success against 1890 01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:17,400 Speaker 4: the Lamar Jackson Baltimore Ravens. 1891 01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:20,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, I love this fancy word. 1892 01:35:20,320 --> 01:35:20,719 Speaker 2: Fancy. 1893 01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:22,320 Speaker 3: That is a fancy word. 1894 01:35:22,360 --> 01:35:23,000 Speaker 2: I like that word. 1895 01:35:23,040 --> 01:35:25,160 Speaker 7: I like the game almost as much as I like 1896 01:35:25,240 --> 01:35:30,760 Speaker 7: that word. Hey, Ravens probably are going to struggle to 1897 01:35:31,280 --> 01:35:33,640 Speaker 7: stop the Niners offense, I think, I honestly, I do 1898 01:35:33,680 --> 01:35:35,120 Speaker 7: think the over is the best bet in this game. 1899 01:35:35,160 --> 01:35:36,599 Speaker 7: But I think the Niners win, you want to lay 1900 01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:38,639 Speaker 7: it with San Fran probably gonna be sweating it late. 1901 01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:40,479 Speaker 7: I don't think it's gonna be like the Eagles game was. 1902 01:35:40,920 --> 01:35:44,280 Speaker 7: But I do think Baltimore's offense like you're gonna see 1903 01:35:44,720 --> 01:35:47,840 Speaker 7: their best stuff, the best plays. The bet like this 1904 01:35:48,040 --> 01:35:51,719 Speaker 7: is the showcase game. For Lamar, for Todd Mounkin for Odell. 1905 01:35:52,120 --> 01:35:54,280 Speaker 7: Like to me, this is the Flowers game, I think 1906 01:35:54,320 --> 01:35:56,920 Speaker 7: for this not Zay Flowers, but sure, why not the 1907 01:35:56,960 --> 01:35:58,639 Speaker 7: Flowers game for this Ravens offense. 1908 01:35:59,080 --> 01:36:01,840 Speaker 2: Hey, We're brought to you by Progressive Insurance. Progressive makes 1909 01:36:01,880 --> 01:36:04,760 Speaker 2: bundling easy and affordable. Get a multi policy discount by 1910 01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:08,160 Speaker 2: combining your motorcycle, RV, vote ATV and more all your 1911 01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:12,400 Speaker 2: protection in one place. Bundle and save at Progressive dot com. 1912 01:36:12,479 --> 01:36:16,400 Speaker 2: Rich Ornberger is with US Penn State, All American NFL 1913 01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:22,080 Speaker 2: veteran blowtorches pork shoulder in a good way. Right. Oh yeah, 1914 01:36:22,200 --> 01:36:23,040 Speaker 2: very very tasty. 1915 01:36:23,080 --> 01:36:23,240 Speaker 7: Huh. 1916 01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:25,800 Speaker 2: I could go for that. I had pork chops last night. 1917 01:36:25,880 --> 01:36:26,839 Speaker 7: Actually go yeah. 1918 01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:29,720 Speaker 3: Wow, you gotta finish them with a flamethrow. I'll buy it. 1919 01:36:29,920 --> 01:36:31,080 Speaker 3: Buy you one for Christmas? 1920 01:36:31,600 --> 01:36:34,360 Speaker 2: Please do, please do. I might burn the house down, 1921 01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:37,679 Speaker 2: but please do. We got Jared Smith FSR betting analyst 1922 01:36:37,760 --> 01:36:40,559 Speaker 2: I'm Brian No. Coming up next, we go from the 1923 01:36:40,600 --> 01:36:45,439 Speaker 2: top two defenses to the top two offenses. Another really 1924 01:36:45,439 --> 01:36:48,519 Speaker 2: interesting matchup. 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Ooh, 1935 01:37:19,400 --> 01:37:20,360 Speaker 2: I don't know, what do you guys? 1936 01:37:20,439 --> 01:37:20,760 Speaker 6: Do you have? 1937 01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:24,639 Speaker 2: Double digits are a little bit closer, you know, seven six, 1938 01:37:24,800 --> 01:37:27,559 Speaker 2: something like that, But I don't know how many do 1939 01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:28,439 Speaker 2: you think they're gonna win? 1940 01:37:28,520 --> 01:37:28,800 Speaker 3: By us? 1941 01:37:29,040 --> 01:37:34,200 Speaker 4: The Miami Dolphins are such a good team against bad teams, 1942 01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:40,640 Speaker 4: But so are the Dallas Cowboys. That's right, Like, like 1943 01:37:40,760 --> 01:37:42,479 Speaker 4: what a fantastic matchup. 1944 01:37:42,560 --> 01:37:45,120 Speaker 3: I know, I know, the the. 1945 01:37:44,560 --> 01:37:47,120 Speaker 4: Forty nine ers in Baltimore. I mean, the steam will 1946 01:37:47,120 --> 01:37:50,679 Speaker 4: only continue to grow over the holiday weekend and they're 1947 01:37:50,720 --> 01:37:53,439 Speaker 4: the last game played in Week sixteen, So we're gonna 1948 01:37:53,439 --> 01:37:56,640 Speaker 4: be you know, jazzed for this Ravens forty nine Ers 1949 01:37:56,760 --> 01:37:59,519 Speaker 4: matchup the entire the entire weekend. 1950 01:37:59,600 --> 01:38:02,960 Speaker 3: But Dallas Miami is the best matchup. 1951 01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:07,120 Speaker 4: Because these are this is the Spider Man meme that 1952 01:38:07,200 --> 01:38:09,679 Speaker 4: they're looking at each other and pointing saying Who's who. 1953 01:38:10,640 --> 01:38:12,640 Speaker 3: Because Dak Prescott. 1954 01:38:12,120 --> 01:38:16,080 Speaker 4: To me is I mean a very good analog to 1955 01:38:16,120 --> 01:38:18,320 Speaker 4: who too a tongue of I loo is, if not 1956 01:38:18,360 --> 01:38:21,080 Speaker 4: slightly more durable over the course of his career. They're 1957 01:38:21,120 --> 01:38:25,120 Speaker 4: very similar players, and frankly, the Dallas defense and the 1958 01:38:25,160 --> 01:38:28,479 Speaker 4: Miami defense very similar in my mind, you know, very 1959 01:38:28,520 --> 01:38:32,800 Speaker 4: capable at times, very opportunistic at times, but can be 1960 01:38:32,880 --> 01:38:37,800 Speaker 4: absolutely swallowed up by better offenses. And then offensively, both 1961 01:38:37,840 --> 01:38:43,200 Speaker 4: these teams capable piling up huge numbers, but the problem 1962 01:38:43,280 --> 01:38:47,160 Speaker 4: is against better teams or better defenses in bigger moments, 1963 01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:49,639 Speaker 4: they sometimes fold up shops. 1964 01:38:49,640 --> 01:38:52,160 Speaker 3: So I'm very curious how this one goes. 1965 01:38:52,280 --> 01:38:56,120 Speaker 4: I don't have a great feel from a betting standpoint 1966 01:38:56,680 --> 01:39:00,400 Speaker 4: what direction this lands, but I will say, from just 1967 01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:03,800 Speaker 4: a fan standpoint, if you love the NFL, this is 1968 01:39:03,840 --> 01:39:06,760 Speaker 4: the most intriguing game on the schedule, hands down. 1969 01:39:07,240 --> 01:39:10,320 Speaker 7: Yeah. I mean, I think I think the number is 1970 01:39:10,400 --> 01:39:14,439 Speaker 7: telling me the spread is still undecided. I have not 1971 01:39:14,640 --> 01:39:16,639 Speaker 7: seen and it could have changed this morning. I actually 1972 01:39:16,680 --> 01:39:17,840 Speaker 7: haven't checked the line on this game. 1973 01:39:17,880 --> 01:39:18,360 Speaker 6: This morning. 1974 01:39:19,800 --> 01:39:22,040 Speaker 7: Let's check it right, Nah, and it does. 1975 01:39:22,280 --> 01:39:23,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, still one and a half. 1976 01:39:23,240 --> 01:39:25,639 Speaker 7: But I haven't seen any significant movement in either direction. 1977 01:39:25,720 --> 01:39:28,280 Speaker 7: But the total has seen some movement. We have seen 1978 01:39:28,280 --> 01:39:31,200 Speaker 7: this total move down, and I think that makes sense, right. 1979 01:39:31,200 --> 01:39:32,720 Speaker 7: If you want to talk about this again, put on 1980 01:39:32,760 --> 01:39:35,320 Speaker 7: the Quentin Tarantino hat. Let's script this thing out. So 1981 01:39:36,160 --> 01:39:39,800 Speaker 7: Dallas is coming off of their worst performance of the year. Defensively, 1982 01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:43,400 Speaker 7: James Cook ran it all over this Dallas defense, and 1983 01:39:43,479 --> 01:39:46,400 Speaker 7: I'm sure they're reading all week long, how they a 1984 01:39:46,600 --> 01:39:49,519 Speaker 7: can't stop the run and b can't win on the road. 1985 01:39:49,640 --> 01:39:52,200 Speaker 7: That's probably all they're reading this week, those two things. 1986 01:39:52,760 --> 01:39:57,480 Speaker 7: And usually when those things happen, and it's the Dallas Cowboys, 1987 01:39:57,520 --> 01:40:02,000 Speaker 7: so the message will always be amplified. I always expect 1988 01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:05,120 Speaker 7: to bounce back, because the professionals these things tend to bounce, 1989 01:40:05,160 --> 01:40:07,639 Speaker 7: you know. They You're never as good as you look 1990 01:40:07,840 --> 01:40:09,240 Speaker 7: when you're on your best week. You're never as bad 1991 01:40:09,240 --> 01:40:10,800 Speaker 7: as you look on your worst week, So they tend 1992 01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:13,280 Speaker 7: to go back to level. So I think Dallas's defense 1993 01:40:13,520 --> 01:40:16,080 Speaker 7: will play better this week, especially against the run on 1994 01:40:16,200 --> 01:40:17,040 Speaker 7: Miami side. 1995 01:40:17,960 --> 01:40:20,639 Speaker 6: I know that too. In the offense is great, but Brian, 1996 01:40:20,680 --> 01:40:22,200 Speaker 6: you could correct me if I'm wrong. 1997 01:40:22,680 --> 01:40:25,559 Speaker 7: Is this Miami team becoming a defensive team with Vick 1998 01:40:25,640 --> 01:40:28,559 Speaker 7: Fangio and Jalen Ramsey and all the great pieces they 1999 01:40:28,640 --> 01:40:30,120 Speaker 7: have on the defensive side of the ball. 2000 01:40:30,120 --> 01:40:32,120 Speaker 6: They shut out the Jets last week, and I know that's. 2001 01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:33,880 Speaker 7: You know, you could do that pretty easily these days. 2002 01:40:33,880 --> 01:40:39,280 Speaker 7: But I think Miami defensively is becoming an identity for 2003 01:40:39,320 --> 01:40:42,240 Speaker 7: this team. And that's why I think the total has 2004 01:40:42,280 --> 01:40:44,400 Speaker 7: gone down a tick here because right now we're talking 2005 01:40:44,400 --> 01:40:47,120 Speaker 7: a lot about the offenses, rightfully so, but I think 2006 01:40:47,160 --> 01:40:51,240 Speaker 7: both of these defenses, maybe on Miami side, gets overlooked 2007 01:40:51,280 --> 01:40:53,320 Speaker 7: a little bit because of how explosive they are on offense. 2008 01:40:53,520 --> 01:40:56,840 Speaker 7: On Dallas's side, they're gonna need that defense down the 2009 01:40:56,840 --> 01:40:59,040 Speaker 7: stretch to stop the run and to really put Dak 2010 01:40:59,080 --> 01:41:01,840 Speaker 7: in good positions because they're gonna have to go on 2011 01:41:01,880 --> 01:41:03,720 Speaker 7: the road and win some playoff games based on the 2012 01:41:03,720 --> 01:41:06,320 Speaker 7: way these standings might be playing out here. 2013 01:41:07,240 --> 01:41:12,519 Speaker 2: Listen, it depends with the Dolphins defense. Sometimes, like last week, 2014 01:41:13,040 --> 01:41:15,200 Speaker 2: pitching a shutout, it's the NFL. I know it's the 2015 01:41:15,240 --> 01:41:17,840 Speaker 2: Jets offense, but pitching a shutout is really good in 2016 01:41:17,880 --> 01:41:20,600 Speaker 2: the NFL. But just a week prior, they're up by 2017 01:41:20,680 --> 01:41:24,400 Speaker 2: two touchdowns at home against Will Levis and the Titans, 2018 01:41:24,960 --> 01:41:29,400 Speaker 2: and they can't win. They can't get a stop. DeAndre 2019 01:41:29,479 --> 01:41:32,920 Speaker 2: Hopkins lit them up. So they're just weird. They're jekylin Hyde. 2020 01:41:33,000 --> 01:41:35,559 Speaker 2: When they're on, they're pretty good. When they're off, it's 2021 01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:39,200 Speaker 2: just like what happened today, So they're not to be trusted, 2022 01:41:39,280 --> 01:41:42,799 Speaker 2: I think is the way it goes. But to your point, Jared, 2023 01:41:42,840 --> 01:41:46,479 Speaker 2: when they're on, they're good. It's just you don't know 2024 01:41:46,520 --> 01:41:48,640 Speaker 2: when they're gonna be on or not. And when I 2025 01:41:48,680 --> 01:41:51,400 Speaker 2: go back to the injury bug, look, man, this is 2026 01:41:51,439 --> 01:41:54,080 Speaker 2: what makes it a little bit trickier. The Dolphins have 2027 01:41:54,160 --> 01:41:57,320 Speaker 2: some injuries on their offensive line a lot, but you 2028 01:41:57,360 --> 01:42:01,519 Speaker 2: look at the Cowboys. Zach Martin is nicked up, Tyron 2029 01:42:01,640 --> 01:42:05,839 Speaker 2: Smith is out, and you have Jonathan Hankins, their stud 2030 01:42:05,880 --> 01:42:09,800 Speaker 2: nose tackle. They needed him significantly last week against James 2031 01:42:09,800 --> 01:42:13,120 Speaker 2: Cook and the Bills and they had no answers. So 2032 01:42:13,960 --> 01:42:15,920 Speaker 2: I hear you, Jared. They're gonna be hearing all this 2033 01:42:15,960 --> 01:42:18,600 Speaker 2: throughout the week. The question is do they have the 2034 01:42:18,640 --> 01:42:21,519 Speaker 2: guys to do something about it? And when you look 2035 01:42:21,520 --> 01:42:23,439 Speaker 2: at the Dolphins running game. It's one of the best 2036 01:42:23,520 --> 01:42:27,960 Speaker 2: running games in football. And so if that's a like 2037 01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:32,439 Speaker 2: a balanced attack and Tyreek is back and you're able 2038 01:42:32,439 --> 01:42:35,880 Speaker 2: to run it with mostert, I don't see the Cowboys 2039 01:42:35,920 --> 01:42:37,880 Speaker 2: defense doing a whole heck of a lot better in 2040 01:42:37,960 --> 01:42:38,479 Speaker 2: this one. 2041 01:42:38,920 --> 01:42:43,080 Speaker 4: I look at the a the Dallas Cowboys are just 2042 01:42:43,240 --> 01:42:47,280 Speaker 4: not a very good road team this season, and the 2043 01:42:47,320 --> 01:42:51,040 Speaker 4: Miami Dolphins, from the standpoint of playing at home, have 2044 01:42:51,160 --> 01:42:55,800 Speaker 4: a more of an advantage in South Florida during the 2045 01:42:55,880 --> 01:42:59,240 Speaker 4: early portion of the season, where you know, they it's 2046 01:42:59,240 --> 01:43:02,519 Speaker 4: super hot, humid, and I've been in those games and they. 2047 01:43:02,400 --> 01:43:03,520 Speaker 3: Are just slogs. 2048 01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:06,759 Speaker 4: But this is like, this is like a nice place 2049 01:43:06,800 --> 01:43:09,640 Speaker 4: to play for teams visiting Florida at the end of 2050 01:43:09,680 --> 01:43:13,680 Speaker 4: the season. So maybe this is a better comp for 2051 01:43:13,840 --> 01:43:19,559 Speaker 4: the Cowboys to what they would experience at home. Then, 2052 01:43:19,880 --> 01:43:23,240 Speaker 4: for example, Buffalo a week ago, you know, it's second 2053 01:43:23,280 --> 01:43:26,480 Speaker 4: straight road test though, and the Dallas Cowboys have steeply 2054 01:43:26,640 --> 01:43:30,600 Speaker 4: underperformed on the road. I guess my lean would be 2055 01:43:30,640 --> 01:43:33,760 Speaker 4: Miami if I was forced to choose. But here's my 2056 01:43:33,760 --> 01:43:38,040 Speaker 4: problem with Miami. Tyreek Hill coming back the narrative. Sometimes 2057 01:43:38,080 --> 01:43:41,679 Speaker 4: the tail wegs the dog and I don't know how, 2058 01:43:41,960 --> 01:43:44,639 Speaker 4: and none of us will know exactly how Tyreek Hill 2059 01:43:44,800 --> 01:43:49,200 Speaker 4: has looked at practice nursing this ankle injury. But you 2060 01:43:49,280 --> 01:43:51,720 Speaker 4: know there's going to be a push to help this 2061 01:43:51,800 --> 01:43:55,640 Speaker 4: guy break this record, and he needs to average one 2062 01:43:55,720 --> 01:43:59,759 Speaker 4: hundred and fifty two and a half giver so yards 2063 01:43:59,760 --> 01:44:02,559 Speaker 4: over his next three games in order to become the 2064 01:44:02,600 --> 01:44:06,000 Speaker 4: first player in NFL history to break the two thousand 2065 01:44:06,080 --> 01:44:10,840 Speaker 4: receiving yards Barrier and Mike McDaniel, I believe there's a 2066 01:44:10,920 --> 01:44:14,760 Speaker 4: vanity there. I think he loves the experience of being 2067 01:44:14,800 --> 01:44:18,839 Speaker 4: considered an offensive genius, and if you have a record 2068 01:44:18,960 --> 01:44:24,599 Speaker 4: like that to your name, it's important. And he makes 2069 01:44:24,640 --> 01:44:27,800 Speaker 4: history alongside Tyreek Hill because Tyrek Hill did that in 2070 01:44:27,880 --> 01:44:30,280 Speaker 4: his offense, not in Andy Reid's offense. 2071 01:44:30,560 --> 01:44:31,759 Speaker 3: In his offense. 2072 01:44:32,439 --> 01:44:36,759 Speaker 4: So I think, even though this is a really important game, 2073 01:44:37,240 --> 01:44:41,360 Speaker 4: I think there are some distractions swirling around Miami. 2074 01:44:40,960 --> 01:44:43,080 Speaker 3: That could affect them. But like I said, if. 2075 01:44:42,920 --> 01:44:46,439 Speaker 4: I were to lean based on how poor the Dallas 2076 01:44:46,439 --> 01:44:49,599 Speaker 4: Cowboys have played on the road this season, I would 2077 01:44:49,680 --> 01:44:52,120 Speaker 4: lean towards Miami defending their home turf. 2078 01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:56,880 Speaker 7: Under I think unders the bet here guys. I mean, 2079 01:44:57,280 --> 01:44:59,840 Speaker 7: and you said it, Brian both offensive lines are banged up, 2080 01:45:00,360 --> 01:45:01,559 Speaker 7: so we'll see who runs the ball. 2081 01:45:02,280 --> 01:45:04,400 Speaker 6: And people love betting overs. 2082 01:45:04,160 --> 01:45:06,960 Speaker 7: In these games. I mean they just they absolutely love it. 2083 01:45:06,960 --> 01:45:10,400 Speaker 7: They're gonna see Miamis and it's I think now at 2084 01:45:10,400 --> 01:45:14,719 Speaker 7: this stage of the year, the unders become more valuable 2085 01:45:14,760 --> 01:45:18,680 Speaker 7: to me because it's just win baby. It does not 2086 01:45:19,200 --> 01:45:22,600 Speaker 7: style points in these games are meaningless. 2087 01:45:23,240 --> 01:45:24,840 Speaker 6: Win the game now. 2088 01:45:25,800 --> 01:45:28,000 Speaker 7: Anything can happen once the ball gets kicked off. Fluke 2089 01:45:28,040 --> 01:45:31,680 Speaker 7: turnover here, fumble six, fumble, Ruski interception. You know we 2090 01:45:31,720 --> 01:45:34,960 Speaker 7: saw hel Mary intercepted for a touchdown. 2091 01:45:34,520 --> 01:45:35,120 Speaker 3: Earlier this year. 2092 01:45:35,160 --> 01:45:37,320 Speaker 7: I mean, anything could happen in these games. But if 2093 01:45:37,360 --> 01:45:41,720 Speaker 7: you want to ask me, the vibe of this game, like, 2094 01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:44,280 Speaker 7: the vibe of this game is, in my opinion, going 2095 01:45:44,320 --> 01:45:47,439 Speaker 7: to look completely different than the vibe and Niners Ravens. 2096 01:45:47,760 --> 01:45:50,439 Speaker 7: I think the vibe in Niners Ravens is we need 2097 01:45:50,479 --> 01:45:54,240 Speaker 7: to score because we've got an offense on both sides 2098 01:45:54,280 --> 01:45:57,320 Speaker 7: of the ball that are just explosive and dynamic. I 2099 01:45:57,360 --> 01:45:59,960 Speaker 7: think it's gonna be a little tighter in this Dolphin 2100 01:46:00,520 --> 01:46:04,320 Speaker 7: Cowboys game. I don't know if both of these quarterbacks 2101 01:46:04,360 --> 01:46:07,439 Speaker 7: are ready for the moment just yet. And I think 2102 01:46:07,560 --> 01:46:12,080 Speaker 7: both coordinators, both coaches know maybe Tua is not in 2103 01:46:12,120 --> 01:46:15,000 Speaker 7: this boat. I think McDaniel let it rip. But I 2104 01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:16,680 Speaker 7: think the Dolphins are more of a running team than 2105 01:46:16,680 --> 01:46:18,559 Speaker 7: they are passing team most days, at least when they're 2106 01:46:18,560 --> 01:46:21,719 Speaker 7: at their best. And for the Cowboys, man, if Dak 2107 01:46:21,960 --> 01:46:24,720 Speaker 7: just looks a little Dak looks so bad last week 2108 01:46:24,720 --> 01:46:27,639 Speaker 7: on the road, Like if they start out slow again, 2109 01:46:28,280 --> 01:46:30,120 Speaker 7: do they take the ball out of Dak's hands and 2110 01:46:30,160 --> 01:46:31,320 Speaker 7: rely on the running game a little more? 2111 01:46:31,360 --> 01:46:31,400 Speaker 1: Like? 2112 01:46:31,439 --> 01:46:34,240 Speaker 6: I just I think the game between Dallas and Miami is. 2113 01:46:34,200 --> 01:46:36,320 Speaker 7: Going to be more of the phone booth game, whereas 2114 01:46:36,400 --> 01:46:38,439 Speaker 7: Baltimore San Francisco is going to be more of the 2115 01:46:38,479 --> 01:46:39,240 Speaker 7: spread it out game. 2116 01:46:40,200 --> 01:46:44,000 Speaker 2: Well, you mentioned being Ready. There's a guy who was 2117 01:46:44,120 --> 01:46:48,160 Speaker 2: born Ready. It's actually his nickname, Isaac born Ready low 2118 01:46:48,240 --> 01:46:49,920 Speaker 2: End Kron. I don't know if you guys know that 2119 01:46:50,080 --> 01:46:51,799 Speaker 2: or not. I low with the latest. 2120 01:46:53,920 --> 01:46:59,120 Speaker 10: You've unearthed my deep seated secret, my true middle name. 2121 01:47:00,040 --> 01:47:02,720 Speaker 10: Very impressive. I'm kind of creepy, I gotta be honestly, No, 2122 01:47:02,760 --> 01:47:05,559 Speaker 10: I'm just kidding. We actually have some fresh NFL news 2123 01:47:05,600 --> 01:47:08,040 Speaker 10: for you guys this morning. The Chicago Tribune reporting that 2124 01:47:08,080 --> 01:47:12,400 Speaker 10: the Chicago Bears signing placekicker Cairo Santos to a four year, 2125 01:47:12,600 --> 01:47:16,720 Speaker 10: sixteen million dollar extension through the twenty twenty seven campaign. 2126 01:47:17,160 --> 01:47:20,320 Speaker 10: We've got two games coming up later on this Saturday, 2127 01:47:20,400 --> 01:47:23,200 Speaker 10: leading off at four point thirty Eastern, the eight and 2128 01:47:23,320 --> 01:47:28,200 Speaker 10: six Cincinnati Bengals visit the seven and seven Pittsburgh Steelers. 2129 01:47:28,240 --> 01:47:31,800 Speaker 10: And then at eight pm Eastern from Sofi Stadium in Englewood, 2130 01:47:31,800 --> 01:47:34,960 Speaker 10: it's the Los Angeles Chargers under now interim head coach 2131 01:47:35,280 --> 01:47:39,280 Speaker 10: Giff Smith, hosting the eight and six Buffalo Bills. And 2132 01:47:39,320 --> 01:47:42,679 Speaker 10: on a side note, on social media, within the last hour, 2133 01:47:42,840 --> 01:47:47,160 Speaker 10: a Buffalo Bills fan has posted a preview of himself 2134 01:47:47,200 --> 01:47:48,479 Speaker 10: getting ready for the game. 2135 01:47:48,600 --> 01:47:50,360 Speaker 9: The fan posted a video of. 2136 01:47:50,360 --> 01:47:55,599 Speaker 10: Himself getting up, preparing his morning coffee and mixing his 2137 01:47:55,960 --> 01:47:59,800 Speaker 10: mourning morning coffee with a can of l bat be 2138 01:48:00,600 --> 01:48:03,479 Speaker 10: So that's the kind of Buffalo Bills fan that is 2139 01:48:03,600 --> 01:48:07,000 Speaker 10: preparing for the game tonight against the Los Angeles Chargers. 2140 01:48:07,040 --> 01:48:09,759 Speaker 10: On Friday night in the NBA, the Golden State Warriors. 2141 01:48:09,800 --> 01:48:12,160 Speaker 10: If you had the Washington Wizards one twenty nine to 2142 01:48:12,200 --> 01:48:16,400 Speaker 10: one eighteen, Steph Curry thirty points in just twenty seven minutes. 2143 01:48:16,400 --> 01:48:19,840 Speaker 10: He made eight three pointers Sacramento over Phoenix one twenty 2144 01:48:19,880 --> 01:48:22,240 Speaker 10: to one oh five. Demonas Somonos of the Kings twenty 2145 01:48:22,280 --> 01:48:25,479 Speaker 10: eight points, eleven rebounds, twelve assists for his fourth triple 2146 01:48:25,520 --> 01:48:29,080 Speaker 10: double of the season. We've got two college football bowl 2147 01:48:29,120 --> 01:48:31,559 Speaker 10: games kicking off at the top of the hour, Troy 2148 01:48:31,800 --> 01:48:36,080 Speaker 10: and Duke facing off in the Birmingham Bowl, while Northern 2149 01:48:36,120 --> 01:48:42,160 Speaker 10: Illinois will meet Arkansas State in the Camellia Bowl in Montgomery, Alabama. 2150 01:48:42,280 --> 01:48:44,320 Speaker 9: Fellas, all yours, thank. 2151 01:48:44,160 --> 01:48:46,879 Speaker 2: You, I lo it is Fox Sports Radios countdown to Kickoff, 2152 01:48:47,160 --> 01:48:50,640 Speaker 2: presented by Bett MGM. Shortly after this show, our podcast 2153 01:48:50,680 --> 01:48:53,599 Speaker 2: will be going up. 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He can't find anyone 2163 01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:27,479 Speaker 2: to bet on the Pittsburgh Steelers. 2164 01:49:27,880 --> 01:49:30,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, right, a. 2165 01:49:30,800 --> 01:49:34,599 Speaker 3: Little yeah, that was that was Yeah. 2166 01:49:34,640 --> 01:49:37,960 Speaker 4: He was like, we really need the Chargers, and we 2167 01:49:38,000 --> 01:49:44,639 Speaker 4: really need those Steelers this weekend. And I'll tell you though, boy, 2168 01:49:44,680 --> 01:49:47,920 Speaker 4: when we talk about holding our nose to take to. 2169 01:49:47,960 --> 01:49:51,040 Speaker 3: Take a side, yeah, good lord, I mean I don't 2170 01:49:51,120 --> 01:49:51,320 Speaker 3: like that. 2171 01:49:51,479 --> 01:49:55,080 Speaker 2: Well, here's the question, which do you have to hold 2172 01:49:55,160 --> 01:49:59,200 Speaker 2: the nose more on? Is it the Steelers plus three 2173 01:49:59,479 --> 01:50:02,800 Speaker 2: question or is it the Chargers twelve and a half? 2174 01:50:02,960 --> 01:50:03,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the Charger. 2175 01:50:03,760 --> 01:50:05,439 Speaker 7: He's lost by forty less. 2176 01:50:05,520 --> 01:50:07,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, it has twelve and a half. 2177 01:50:08,400 --> 01:50:12,320 Speaker 4: No, but just think about the reasons why Brandon Staley 2178 01:50:12,400 --> 01:50:15,400 Speaker 4: was fired and then also what's transpired this week. Like 2179 01:50:15,439 --> 01:50:17,479 Speaker 4: Brandon Saley got fired because this has been one of 2180 01:50:17,520 --> 01:50:21,280 Speaker 4: the NFL's poorest defenses over the past three seasons, and 2181 01:50:21,280 --> 01:50:23,479 Speaker 4: he was supposed to be a defensive minded head coach. 2182 01:50:23,840 --> 01:50:27,040 Speaker 4: The only reason why the Chargers have stayed afloat over 2183 01:50:27,080 --> 01:50:30,559 Speaker 4: the years has been because of their offense and their 2184 01:50:30,560 --> 01:50:34,599 Speaker 4: offensive star power. They literally are out of offensive stars 2185 01:50:34,640 --> 01:50:37,280 Speaker 4: and Austin Eckler is a limping to the finish line 2186 01:50:37,280 --> 01:50:41,439 Speaker 4: this season. He looks hurt, he he looks he doesn't 2187 01:50:41,439 --> 01:50:45,120 Speaker 4: look bad, he just looks like he isn't right, So 2188 01:50:45,760 --> 01:50:47,760 Speaker 4: there is no juice in La. 2189 01:50:47,920 --> 01:50:48,120 Speaker 3: Right. 2190 01:50:48,160 --> 01:50:51,160 Speaker 7: Now, here's the question here, we'll finish it with this. 2191 01:50:51,439 --> 01:50:54,760 Speaker 7: Which quarterback would you rather like one start? For all 2192 01:50:54,800 --> 01:50:58,200 Speaker 7: the marbles? Easton Stick or Mason Rudolph? 2193 01:50:58,240 --> 01:51:03,240 Speaker 3: Wow, who do you want? Dealers thinks less Yeah. 2194 01:51:02,880 --> 01:51:04,600 Speaker 6: The lesser of two evils. 2195 01:51:05,320 --> 01:51:10,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh, it would be Mason. But because of 2196 01:51:10,360 --> 01:51:14,439 Speaker 2: the matchups, right like that that that Bengals defense is 2197 01:51:14,479 --> 01:51:20,719 Speaker 2: not great at all. When when they're their bottom five 2198 01:51:20,760 --> 01:51:23,840 Speaker 2: in terms of giving up rushing yardage, you talk about 2199 01:51:23,880 --> 01:51:26,320 Speaker 2: helping out your your quarterback run. 2200 01:51:26,160 --> 01:51:30,120 Speaker 7: The ball, Dealers probably cover. I'm probably gonna I'll probably 2201 01:51:30,200 --> 01:51:33,160 Speaker 7: woos out at the last minute and take Steelers plus 2202 01:51:33,200 --> 01:51:36,519 Speaker 7: three because I'm sitting there with my Bengals minus two ticket. Well, 2203 01:51:36,520 --> 01:51:39,000 Speaker 7: here's what's gonna happen. I'm gonna lose my Troy minus 2204 01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:40,760 Speaker 7: six and a half bet in the in the early 2205 01:51:40,800 --> 01:51:42,880 Speaker 7: window here with these bowl games, and I'm gonna be like, 2206 01:51:42,920 --> 01:51:45,000 Speaker 7: you know what, I'm not having a good day, and 2207 01:51:45,000 --> 01:51:46,200 Speaker 7: I'll bet the Steelers plus three. 2208 01:51:46,360 --> 01:51:48,280 Speaker 3: Just you'll just you'll just middle it. 2209 01:51:48,400 --> 01:51:53,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, isn't that the best? 2210 01:51:53,880 --> 01:51:55,280 Speaker 2: It's gotta be exactly to. 2211 01:51:57,040 --> 01:52:01,920 Speaker 3: You and you're thinking, how is it gonna be two? 2212 01:52:02,000 --> 01:52:05,719 Speaker 2: Did not even have It'll happen in those glorious days 2213 01:52:05,760 --> 01:52:07,639 Speaker 2: once every five years or so. 2214 01:52:07,960 --> 01:52:11,080 Speaker 3: We've got. 2215 01:52:11,600 --> 01:52:14,640 Speaker 2: There you go. We've got Rich Orenberger, Penn State All American, 2216 01:52:14,840 --> 01:52:19,759 Speaker 2: Jared Smith FSR, betting analyst. I'm Brian no coming up next, 2217 01:52:20,479 --> 01:52:24,040 Speaker 2: our plays, all of our picks. I might have a 2218 01:52:24,080 --> 01:52:28,320 Speaker 2: bonus pick today. Oh no, I had a Texas A 2219 01:52:28,400 --> 01:52:33,080 Speaker 2: and M running back Leon Moss. He missed the game, 2220 01:52:33,280 --> 01:52:35,800 Speaker 2: so I've got an extra pick to make in my 2221 01:52:35,880 --> 01:52:39,559 Speaker 2: back pocket. Might be today, I don't know. We'll see 2222 01:52:39,560 --> 01:52:42,639 Speaker 2: if the mood strikes me. It is Fox Sports Radios 2223 01:52:42,640 --> 01:52:46,519 Speaker 2: Countdown to Kickoff, presented by Bet MGM. It is Fox 2224 01:52:46,520 --> 01:52:51,880 Speaker 2: Sports Radios Countdown to Kickoff, presented by Bett MGM. Props 2225 01:52:51,920 --> 01:52:56,200 Speaker 2: to the crew, our trusted producer Bo Benson, Technical producer 2226 01:52:57,360 --> 01:53:01,240 Speaker 2: Chris Perfett on the updates. I the Colowen Cron crushing 2227 01:53:01,280 --> 01:53:04,439 Speaker 2: it as always, top of the hour, up on game, 2228 01:53:04,720 --> 01:53:09,599 Speaker 2: LaVar Arrington, DJ Huschman, Zada, Plexico, Burrist, keep it locked 2229 01:53:09,640 --> 01:53:12,639 Speaker 2: right here on Fox Sports Radio. We got a lot 2230 01:53:12,680 --> 01:53:17,160 Speaker 2: of picks to make. Let's do it. 2231 01:53:17,600 --> 01:53:20,800 Speaker 1: Rapid fire, Okay. 2232 01:53:20,479 --> 01:53:21,519 Speaker 3: Shared We'll start with you. 2233 01:53:21,560 --> 01:53:23,840 Speaker 7: What are you think of Well, last week it was 2234 01:53:24,000 --> 01:53:28,439 Speaker 7: bad guys two and one. Not good this year under 2235 01:53:28,479 --> 01:53:31,040 Speaker 7: five hundred, but still time and I'm thinking the three 2236 01:53:31,080 --> 01:53:33,080 Speaker 7: and oh week. So here we go Northwestern plus six 2237 01:53:33,120 --> 01:53:35,639 Speaker 7: and a half the Las Vegas Bowl. So Utah goes 2238 01:53:35,640 --> 01:53:38,120 Speaker 7: from back to back Rose Bowls to the Las Vegas Bowl. 2239 01:53:38,439 --> 01:53:40,639 Speaker 7: And they'll be playing in this game without their starting 2240 01:53:40,720 --> 01:53:44,839 Speaker 7: quarterback Bryson Barnes, without their leading receiver Davon Veley, another receiver, 2241 01:53:44,920 --> 01:53:47,360 Speaker 7: both starting safeties, and a starting defensive lineman. So I 2242 01:53:47,360 --> 01:53:49,799 Speaker 7: think Northwestern is the more motivated team. And how about 2243 01:53:49,840 --> 01:53:52,559 Speaker 7: the job that David Brown has done taken from that 2244 01:53:52,600 --> 01:53:53,919 Speaker 7: Pat Fitzgerald disaster. 2245 01:53:54,160 --> 01:53:56,800 Speaker 6: The Northwestern win total was three. Yeah, they won seven 2246 01:53:56,840 --> 01:53:57,439 Speaker 6: games this year. 2247 01:53:57,439 --> 01:53:58,200 Speaker 7: Impressive stuff. 2248 01:53:58,200 --> 01:53:59,600 Speaker 6: I'll take Northwestern. 2249 01:53:59,080 --> 01:54:01,160 Speaker 7: Plus six and a half. I'll also take San Jose 2250 01:54:01,280 --> 01:54:04,760 Speaker 7: State laying eights numbers coming down a little bit Melee Khalikimaka. 2251 01:54:04,920 --> 01:54:07,360 Speaker 7: In the Hawaii Bowl, I think the Aloha vibe for 2252 01:54:07,479 --> 01:54:10,880 Speaker 7: Chevin Cordero, former Hawaii quarterback, and you get the head 2253 01:54:10,920 --> 01:54:14,600 Speaker 7: coach who is the cousin of the former late the 2254 01:54:14,640 --> 01:54:17,200 Speaker 7: former Hawaii quarterback, Colt Brendan. So you just get some 2255 01:54:17,240 --> 01:54:19,559 Speaker 7: really good vibes for the Spartans. I'll take San Jose 2256 01:54:19,640 --> 01:54:20,360 Speaker 7: State minus steed. 2257 01:54:20,560 --> 01:54:21,439 Speaker 3: I love it, I love it. 2258 01:54:21,479 --> 01:54:25,800 Speaker 4: Look, I'm channeling Rich three and zero from Do It 2259 01:54:25,840 --> 01:54:26,679 Speaker 4: three weeks ago. 2260 01:54:27,360 --> 01:54:30,080 Speaker 3: The Bills. They're going to beat the Chargers by a 2261 01:54:30,160 --> 01:54:32,720 Speaker 3: million points. Nobody's rolling over in La. 2262 01:54:32,880 --> 01:54:36,800 Speaker 4: However, almost all of their offensive stars are on the shelf, 2263 01:54:37,320 --> 01:54:39,920 Speaker 4: and the poor defense is the reason why Brandon Staley 2264 01:54:39,960 --> 01:54:43,280 Speaker 4: got fired. Give me the Bills minus twelve. Also, I'm 2265 01:54:43,280 --> 01:54:46,000 Speaker 4: doubling up on the Monday nighter here. Okay, the matchup 2266 01:54:46,040 --> 01:54:49,040 Speaker 4: between the Baltimore Ravens the San Francisco forty nine Ers 2267 01:54:49,280 --> 01:54:53,760 Speaker 4: will deliver fireworks. They'll be big plays, big risks taken. 2268 01:54:54,280 --> 01:54:56,240 Speaker 4: I like the over on the total, which sits at 2269 01:54:56,280 --> 01:54:58,520 Speaker 4: forty seven and a half this morning. Also, I like 2270 01:54:58,560 --> 01:55:02,320 Speaker 4: the Niners taking an early lead and winning by a touchdown. 2271 01:55:02,360 --> 01:55:05,320 Speaker 4: San Francisco favor by five. I'll give those points. I 2272 01:55:05,480 --> 01:55:06,560 Speaker 4: like the home favorites here. 2273 01:55:08,440 --> 01:55:11,840 Speaker 2: Okay, I got four picks for you. 2274 01:55:12,040 --> 01:55:13,680 Speaker 7: Oh yes, I knew you were doing it this week. 2275 01:55:13,720 --> 01:55:17,160 Speaker 2: He's in my bonus pick. Let go so two picks 2276 01:55:17,200 --> 01:55:20,920 Speaker 2: in two different games to try to you know, so 2277 01:55:21,000 --> 01:55:26,760 Speaker 2: you remember it. I'm looking at the Steelers hosting the Bengals. Here, 2278 01:55:27,200 --> 01:55:30,440 Speaker 2: give me mooth. I'm gonna double down on friar Mouth 2279 01:55:30,840 --> 01:55:33,600 Speaker 2: over twenty five and a half receiving yards. Bengals do 2280 01:55:33,640 --> 01:55:37,400 Speaker 2: a terrible job covering tight ends. I also like both 2281 01:55:37,800 --> 01:55:42,040 Speaker 2: Bengals running backs catching the ball out of the backfield. 2282 01:55:42,120 --> 01:55:45,400 Speaker 2: The Steelers have done a really poor job as of late, 2283 01:55:45,800 --> 01:55:49,000 Speaker 2: a lot of injuries to their middle linebackers. They struggle 2284 01:55:49,120 --> 01:55:52,760 Speaker 2: covering running backs out of the backfield. I'll take Joe 2285 01:55:52,800 --> 01:55:56,280 Speaker 2: Mixon over eighteen and a half receiving yards. I also 2286 01:55:56,440 --> 01:55:58,560 Speaker 2: like Chase Brown out of the backfield as well to 2287 01:55:58,600 --> 01:56:01,120 Speaker 2: catch it. So keep an eye on. I'm gonna go 2288 01:56:01,160 --> 01:56:04,600 Speaker 2: over to this Cowboys game against the Dolphins. Give me 2289 01:56:04,680 --> 01:56:06,720 Speaker 2: my fins minus a point and a half. They've heard 2290 01:56:06,920 --> 01:56:11,400 Speaker 2: all season long they can't be anybody good, and now 2291 01:56:11,440 --> 01:56:14,360 Speaker 2: you get a matchup where the Cowboys are banged up 2292 01:56:14,360 --> 01:56:17,320 Speaker 2: in the trenches, you're at home. I think they get 2293 01:56:17,320 --> 01:56:19,480 Speaker 2: it done. And I'm gonna look at their running back 2294 01:56:19,560 --> 01:56:23,800 Speaker 2: Raheem Moster. His longest rush prop is at thirteen and 2295 01:56:23,880 --> 01:56:27,880 Speaker 2: a half. Give me the over there. No Jonathan Hankins, 2296 01:56:28,280 --> 01:56:31,000 Speaker 2: I think he rips off at least one big run, 2297 01:56:31,520 --> 01:56:35,560 Speaker 2: So I'll take raheem moster over thirteen and a half 2298 01:56:35,640 --> 01:56:38,920 Speaker 2: longest rush. Oh wow, what do you guys think of that? 2299 01:56:38,960 --> 01:56:39,480 Speaker 6: First off? 2300 01:56:39,800 --> 01:56:42,320 Speaker 7: I like it. Well, you're always the prop guy in 2301 01:56:42,360 --> 01:56:44,760 Speaker 7: the group. That's your that's always been your vibe. 2302 01:56:44,760 --> 01:56:47,560 Speaker 3: I will I'm not star. I'm catching up. I'm catching 2303 01:56:48,040 --> 01:56:50,440 Speaker 3: last week three and oh I'm propping up boys. 2304 01:56:50,760 --> 01:56:51,800 Speaker 6: I'm rooting for Rich. 2305 01:56:52,120 --> 01:56:55,040 Speaker 7: I'm back in Rapid Fire and beat both of us. 2306 01:56:55,120 --> 01:56:58,280 Speaker 2: Brian bro these prop picks in your bets. 2307 01:56:58,040 --> 01:56:59,160 Speaker 7: I agree, you know. 2308 01:56:59,280 --> 01:57:00,520 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's a good points. 2309 01:57:00,640 --> 01:57:04,240 Speaker 7: There's no rules with this to really use anything. 2310 01:57:05,600 --> 01:57:07,000 Speaker 3: I was three and zero last week. 2311 01:57:07,040 --> 01:57:08,920 Speaker 2: How many props do you have in rapid Fire? 2312 01:57:09,200 --> 01:57:11,240 Speaker 1: None? You know what? 2313 01:57:11,480 --> 01:57:13,040 Speaker 3: Scare money, don't make no money. 2314 01:57:14,080 --> 01:57:18,440 Speaker 2: I always saved the best for last. Let's do this. 2315 01:57:18,440 --> 01:57:22,879 Speaker 5: This is the best play of the day. 2316 01:57:23,120 --> 01:57:24,320 Speaker 3: All right, Jared? What is it? 2317 01:57:24,320 --> 01:57:24,560 Speaker 1: Man? 2318 01:57:24,840 --> 01:57:25,160 Speaker 7: All right? 2319 01:57:25,200 --> 01:57:25,480 Speaker 6: Guys. 2320 01:57:25,560 --> 01:57:28,760 Speaker 7: I have been picking these Bowl games since I was 2321 01:57:28,800 --> 01:57:30,960 Speaker 7: in middle school, not betting on them, but I've done 2322 01:57:30,960 --> 01:57:33,720 Speaker 7: bull pick them since I'm like I was like thirteen 2323 01:57:33,800 --> 01:57:36,200 Speaker 7: years old. And there's one rule that I always have, 2324 01:57:36,480 --> 01:57:40,920 Speaker 7: no matter what, you never you never fade a service 2325 01:57:41,000 --> 01:57:45,920 Speaker 7: Academy team in a military bowl. That is rule number 2326 01:57:46,080 --> 01:57:49,200 Speaker 7: one of bull betting. So we're obviously laying one and 2327 01:57:49,200 --> 01:57:52,400 Speaker 7: a half points with air Force today in the Armed 2328 01:57:52,520 --> 01:57:57,400 Speaker 7: Forces Bowl. James Madison's got a ton of opt outs. 2329 01:57:57,480 --> 01:57:59,280 Speaker 7: I know some of the kids are playing their head 2330 01:57:59,280 --> 01:58:02,600 Speaker 7: coaches gone, half the coaching staff is gone, and air 2331 01:58:02,640 --> 01:58:05,520 Speaker 7: Force is getting their quarterback back, Larry a who they 2332 01:58:05,560 --> 01:58:07,480 Speaker 7: went eight to no with until he got hurt. So 2333 01:58:07,560 --> 01:58:10,000 Speaker 7: I just think air Force there's no way they lose 2334 01:58:10,040 --> 01:58:10,760 Speaker 7: this game today. 2335 01:58:11,280 --> 01:58:15,760 Speaker 2: All right, good stuff? By the way, latest lines, Rich 2336 01:58:16,680 --> 01:58:19,280 Speaker 2: the Niners minus six. How you feel? 2337 01:58:19,680 --> 01:58:22,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean last great, But I did say that 2338 01:58:22,200 --> 01:58:26,680 Speaker 4: I believe they'll win by a touchdown, so give me yeah. 2339 01:58:26,840 --> 01:58:31,800 Speaker 2: I like Rich sticking to his guns. Ornberger, you know, 2340 01:58:32,320 --> 01:58:35,160 Speaker 2: it's been a lively show. Enjoyed the weekend. Merry Christmas 2341 01:58:35,200 --> 01:58:36,080 Speaker 2: out there, everybody,