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Speaker 1: Thanks to each and every one of you that come

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Speaker 2: But you know who does know about this, big food companies.

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Speaker 1: Have you got one in La Upgrade Labs.

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Speaker 2: underneath Arnold Scharznaker's office. Oh. Absolutely, yeah, I need to

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Speaker 2: and then do the hard work on the mental and

431
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Speaker 2: spiritual aspects of meditation. It's a lot easier to work

432
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Speaker 2: on those when your body's working. But if you're constantly

433
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Speaker 2: feeling that what your body's telling you because it's hungry,

434
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,320
Speaker 2: is you, and it's a flaw or it's something to

435
00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,240
Speaker 2: work on, you can spend your entire life, trying to

436
00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,199
Speaker 2: deal with your emotion, not knowing that it's what's on

437
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:02,360
Speaker 2: your plate that's causing them.

438
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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes, I want to fully double emphasize

439
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 1: that that is so true and so real, and I

440
00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 1: think so many of us are climbing up a steep

441
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,879
Speaker 1: hill trying to solve the wrong problem first, and this

442
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:15,840
Speaker 1: way round's going to make all of it much easier.

443
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,879
Speaker 1: I think you're spot on, and I'm so glad, so

444
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,359
Speaker 1: glad that we address that. I wanted to dive into

445
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 1: this one, like for everyone who's listening and watching, the

446
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,680
Speaker 1: book goes into depth into exactly the minerals, exactly the

447
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,440
Speaker 1: vitamins you need. Like I want you to know that

448
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,160
Speaker 1: the book's giving you a breakdown, and so make sure

449
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 1: you grab the book so that you actually get all

450
00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,000
Speaker 1: their insights. I just want to give you the breadth

451
00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 1: of the inside that Dave has so that you're like, oh,

452
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:37,159
Speaker 1: wait a minute, I need to work on that. I

453
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,680
Speaker 1: need to work on that. Something you talk a lot

454
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 1: about is picking a target area and tracking it. And

455
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 1: you talk about these core target areas. You talk about strength,

456
00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 1: cardiovascular fitness, energy, metabolism, brain function, and stress resistance and

457
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,919
Speaker 1: I've found that that's probably our biggest mistake when it

458
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,479
Speaker 1: comes to our health, is we either are measuring nothing,

459
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 1: we're trying to measure everything. You nailed it, right, Where

460
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Speaker 1: should one start, Like, how does one I guess intuitively

461
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Speaker 1: or data wise know what they are missing right now?

462
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,680
Speaker 1: Because I feel like most of us don't know. Most

463
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,879
Speaker 1: of us live quite unconsciously, and we may be feeling

464
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Speaker 1: a bit tired, we may be feeling a bit of

465
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Speaker 1: body pain, but we're not really that aware of what

466
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Speaker 1: the challenges and what we need.

467
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Speaker 2: I have a lot of data on this because we

468
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 2: ask people this when they come into every labs, and

469
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 2: that was one of the things that inspired me to

470
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,280
Speaker 2: structure the book this way. And it's kind of funny.

471
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 2: The only people on earth who are going to say

472
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Speaker 2: when they wake up in the morning, the first thing

473
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 2: they want, I want to be healthy today. There are

474
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Speaker 2: people who are like me. When I weigh three hundred pounds,

475
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 2: I had chronic fatigue syndrome and arthritis and massive brain

476
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 2: fog and I was a wreck. So being healthy was

477
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Speaker 2: a top priority for me. And you might get there

478
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 2: when you're seventy five right as well. I just wish

479
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 2: I was healthy. But when we're reasonably healthy, health is

480
00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 2: number seventeen on the honeydeal list. I want it. And

481
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 2: what's really motivating us oftentimes from our body is we

482
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,679
Speaker 2: want to be powerful, we want to be energetic, we

483
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 2: want love in our life, and those things they trump health.

484
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,360
Speaker 2: So health never gets enough priority. And what does health

485
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 2: even mean? Most people can't tell you. So I broke

486
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 2: it down into those five or six categories, and okay,

487
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 2: what are you going to work on first? And every

488
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 2: person is individual, So where are you today? And then

489
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Speaker 2: what's your first goal? And everyone says, well, I want

490
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Speaker 2: all of those, but pick one, And in fact I

491
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 2: encourage you in the book to pick two and really

492
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Speaker 2: think about it. And when people come and we actually

493
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Speaker 2: use a conjoint analysis survey and like we go through

494
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Speaker 2: data to help you figure out your goals. But in

495
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 2: the book, I teach you how to do it. So

496
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 2: if your first goal is you know what, I noticed

497
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 2: that I'm weak, I can't hold on to things line,

498
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 2: my grip strength is gone, I don't have the muscles

499
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Speaker 2: I want. Okay, so you're going to focus on muscle first,

500
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 2: or like a lot of people, I'm stressed all the time.

501
00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 2: And my brain doesn't work. I'm going to focus on

502
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Speaker 2: my brain first. So then you go to the section

503
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,679
Speaker 2: of the book on brain and I list all the

504
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,160
Speaker 2: technologies and techniques, whether they're free or cost a couple

505
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 2: hundred bucks or cost thousands of dollars, that work really

506
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 2: well to bring your brain back online. And when you

507
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 2: do that, your muscles will work a little bit better

508
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 2: as a side effect. Right, So maybe that was it. First,

509
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,919
Speaker 2: I want my brain, then I want my muscles. But

510
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 2: someone else could be totally different in their desires. I

511
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 2: want to be able to run a marathon. I just

512
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 2: need the endurance to walk up the stairs because I

513
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 2: can't take care of my kids. Stuff like that happens

514
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 2: all the time. So you go through the book and say, okay,

515
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 2: this is my goal, and then there's a variety of

516
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 2: technologies that will support that. And some of them I

517
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 2: say technologies, they're just techniques. And if it's muscles, picking

518
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 2: up rocks is the entire history of building muscles for humans.

519
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 2: We concentrate the rocks into kettlebells now, but they're still rocks.

520
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 2: And then for endurance, it's run away from tigers, like

521
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:51,679
Speaker 2: you could run away from a slow tiger or a

522
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:56,360
Speaker 2: fast tiger. And that's all of exercise. Well, with machine

523
00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,399
Speaker 2: learning and AI, we are doubling the amount of knowledge

524
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 2: of biology that we have every seventy three days. There's

525
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 2: so much magic happening right now that you can use

526
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 2: this new knowledge that your doctor is probably never going

527
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 2: to know, and you can use that to say, oh,

528
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,199
Speaker 2: I can do this in a lot less time. So

529
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 2: then you get your muscles back and your brain works better.

530
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 2: You get your brain back, and then you have the

531
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Speaker 2: energy to do the muscle work or to do the

532
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Speaker 2: endurance work, and then say, I'm going to work on

533
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 2: these stress management techniques. And you have so much wisdom

534
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 2: that you've offered people on dealing with stress and the

535
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 2: meditation side of things. And there's a couple chapters towards

536
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Speaker 2: the end of the book where I talk about, you know,

537
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,640
Speaker 2: spiritual hacking, which on its face is a bit offensive,

538
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 2: I admit it, but.

539
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Speaker 1: It came from a good place, it did.

540
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Speaker 2: And the idea here is what would have happened in

541
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Speaker 2: Tibd or in India or an apoll or place like that.

542
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Speaker 2: Is Okay, we have a cave, and you can go

543
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 2: to the cave and twenty years later you're going to

544
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Speaker 2: be enlightened. And you could call that fast path. But

545
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 2: most of us have other things that we want to do.

546
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 2: So how do we get the maximum amount of meditation

547
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 2: benefit per minute? Like hurry, meditate faster. It's an oxymoron,

548
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,439
Speaker 2: except if you can say, well, I'm going to do

549
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 2: breath work with my meditation, and studies show that your

550
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 2: brain gets into these states more quickly, then maybe you

551
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 2: should consider finding the kind of breath work that works

552
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 2: for your body, because for every ten minutes of work

553
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 2: you do, you might get into the state faster. And

554
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 2: for some people say, well that's not okay. The Dalai

555
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 2: Lama years ago offered one hundred thousand dollars reward to

556
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Speaker 2: neuroscientists who could help him get into a special esoteric state.

557
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 2: He says, it takes me four hours of meditation to

558
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 2: get there, and I don't have four hours. If you

559
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 2: can get me there in an hour, I'll pay you

560
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 2: one hundred thousand dollars. Okay, this is possible. Today I

561
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 2: run a neuroscience clinic called forty Years of Zen, and

562
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 2: in five days people have the brain waves of someone

563
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 2: who spent twenty years in the cave. And I've spent

564
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Speaker 2: six months of my life with the electrodes glued to

565
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 2: my head, meditating every day with a computer teaching me

566
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 2: how to not do it wrong, and for me, that

567
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 2: was faster. But I also did five years of Art

568
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 2: of Living breath work every single morning because I found

569
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Speaker 2: it worked better than just sitting and meditating, which I

570
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 2: also did every morning. And I want people to understand

571
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 2: any of those approaches is better than not doing it,

572
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 2: and you've got to find the one that works for you.

573
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 2: And there's a list of exercises in here, including the

574
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 2: reset process, which is one of the most important things

575
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 2: I teach.

576
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 1: Can you woke us through this?

577
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 2: The reset process is something that I pioneered with the

578
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Speaker 2: Neuroscience practice because you can measure when it works and

579
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Speaker 2: what you do and the whole recipes and the book

580
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,199
Speaker 2: for it. But what you're doing is you're finding something

581
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 2: that is a trigger for you. And I want to

582
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 2: be really straightforward. If you can be triggered, it means

583
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 2: you're walking around with a loaded gun. You need to

584
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 2: unload the gun. It's not everyone else's job to not

585
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 2: make you shoot them. It's your job to say, I'm

586
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 2: not carrying a weapon anymore. So you find something that

587
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 2: triggers you, and you sit and you think about that feeling,

588
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 2: and it's usually something will pop in your head. You

589
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 2: were bullied, something my parents said, someone cut you off

590
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 2: in traffic, It doesn't really matter. Something's gonna pop in

591
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 2: your head. Say okay, I'm going to run the reset

592
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 2: process on that. So you sit the person who made

593
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 2: you angry down across from you in your mind's eye, yeah, visually,

594
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 2: and you're also in your mind's eye you imagine some

595
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 2: sort of infallible deity. Some people use God or Jesus

596
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 2: or Buddha or you know, any of the deities that

597
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 2: you like, or it could just be you know, a

598
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 2: light bulb that's always right. It doesn't matter, but this

599
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 2: is your double checking thing. And then you sit there

600
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 2: and you actually say, you did this and it made

601
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 2: me feel this way. And then you tap into how

602
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 2: bad you felt and you actually turn on the bad feeling,

603
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 2: like what you want me to actually read? Yes, I

604
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 2: want you to feel it. And then once you're sure

605
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 2: that you've really felt the bad feeling, you might have

606
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 2: tears in your eyes. I mean, it might have been

607
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 2: a big thing. Then and this is the key that's

608
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 2: missing from a lot, even of older literature. Before you

609
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 2: work on letting it go, you have to find gratitude.

610
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 2: So you find one thing. It doesn't matter how big

611
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 2: of a gratitude is. You just need a spark of

612
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 2: gratitude and say, oh, here's one good thing that happened,

613
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, that flips a switch in

614
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 2: your brain, and then you can step into the F

615
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 2: word called forgiveness.

616
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: And forgiveness everyone's mind, right, Yeah.

617
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 2: And the reason I called the F word is a lot

618
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 2: of people I'm not going to forgive that person. They

619
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 2: wrong to me. You don't have to tell them you

620
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 2: forgive them. This is just you unloading the weapon. This

621
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 2: is you no longer being triggered, right, And then you

622
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 2: look at it from the other person's point of view,

623
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 2: and you realize, maybe their mom was mean to them,

624
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 2: you know, maybe they didn't know. Maybe the guy who

625
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 2: cut you off in traffic was on the way to

626
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 2: the hospital to see his daughter being born. You just

627
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 2: don't know, right, And you start looking at that and

628
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, because you did gratitude first, you

629
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 2: feel your heart open and you go, oh my gosh.

630
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 2: And when you're done, and sometimes it takes neuroscience or

631
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 2: a facilitator or some coaching. But when you're done, you

632
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 2: can look at someone who wronged you greatly and all

633
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 2: you feel is peace and love and you can no

634
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 2: longer be triggered. This is very important because what we

635
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 2: normally learn to do is to say, well, I know

636
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 2: that every time the situation comes up, I'm going to

637
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 2: feel triggered. I'm going to notice that I'm triggered, and

638
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 2: then I'm going to take a deep breath and I'm

639
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 2: going to choose to behave like an adult. Hallelujah for

640
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 2: doing that. We all need to do more of that.

641
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 2: It's just biologically expensive because it takes a lot of

642
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 2: effort and time and focus. What if there was no trigger?

643
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 2: So the reset process lets you turn this off at

644
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 2: a very deep and profound level, and when you're done,

645
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 2: you can look at your greatest enemy and you can say,

646
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 2: I love you, I forgive you, we are one, and

647
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 2: you are done for the rest of your life with

648
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 2: that trauma. And I have done this on every single

649
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 2: trauma that's ever happened. I've I had a very successful

650
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 2: conscience on up playing. In the last two years, I

651
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 2: had an employee, embezzel money. I've had people try to

652
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 2: ruin my reputation, all of it around the reset process

653
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 2: on it, and I'm absolutely at peace with it. And

654
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 2: to be able to get there running, I mean you

655
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 2: run at a very big level, so do I. And

656
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 2: the amount of stuff that comes at us no one's

657
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 2: ever going to know is an enormous thing when you're

658
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 2: leading millions of people and making the world a better place.

659
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 2: And to be able to do that without the constant

660
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 2: stress and the constant tension and the constant questioning in

661
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 2: your mind, that all comes from unresolved forgiveness. So the

662
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 2: reset process in the book is how do you get

663
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 2: there most quickly? And you may say, I don't want

664
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 2: to do that. That sounds awful. Do some emdr that's

665
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 2: another way to get to a similar state. But this

666
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 2: process is so powerful and it leads you to amazing

667
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 2: spiritual states where you no longer are carrying a grudge

668
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 2: because I'm smarter and harder the power of laziness. How

669
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 2: expensive is it for you spiritually, at a soul level

670
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 2: to carry a grudge against someone who wronged you for

671
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 2: the rest of your life? Life is too precious to

672
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 2: waste it that way, And this is the fastest way

673
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 2: I've found for people to learn how to let go

674
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 2: of something. And I put it in a book. You say, well,

675
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 2: I thought that was about exercising biohacking. Look, the biggest

676
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 2: thing you can do and the hardest thing you can do,

677
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 2: is to let go of something that your body is

678
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 2: holding onto because it thinks it's keeping you safe. And

679
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 2: I thought I was just worthy of including in the book.

680
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 2: That's what I mean by spiritual hacking. Find the technique

681
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 2: that lets you fully let go of something so that

682
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 2: you can be present with your family, with your friends,

683
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 2: with your loved one, and then you can be present

684
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 2: for your mission, or maybe you can find your mission

685
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 2: in your purpose.

686
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's so well said. I'm so glad

687
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: you included it because I think for the sake of simplicity,

688
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: we talk about our body, our mind, our soul or

689
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: spirit or whatever we call it. But the truth is

690
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: that it's so interconnected in that as you were saying,

691
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: if you can't let go of an emotional disconnect or

692
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: a missileone n chances are that's going to lead to

693
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: your eating habits, and then that eating habit is going

694
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: to link back to a lack of that spiritual cleansing

695
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: or detoxing or whatever that may be. So we're kind

696
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: of just stuck in this vicious cycle. And I wanted

697
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: to talk to you about that because using that spiritual

698
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: hacking the other way and going what are some of

699
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: the blocks that are created physically because of the lack

700
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: of letting go? What are some of the habits that

701
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: you've seen developed physically in our diet, in our you know,

702
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: in our physical practices because of a lack of that.

703
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 2: I believe that every cell in your body has its

704
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 2: own small consciousness, and even inside the cells, the mitochondria,

705
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 2: each of them is an ancient bacteria, and ancient bacteria

706
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 2: have a consciousness. It's a pretty slow, dumb consciousness. Actually

707
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 2: it's a very fast consciousness, but it's it doesn't have

708
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 2: much awareness. But when you have billions actually for those things,

709
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 2: almost trillions inside the body, they function as a distributed

710
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 2: consciousness for your meat, for your hardware, and they're just

711
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 2: trying to keep the petri dish alive, and they think

712
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 2: you're a petri dish, and you realize that they're storing traumas.

713
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 2: And when you do this really deep forgiveness work. You're

714
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 2: causing the body to relax, and you're causing the body

715
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 2: to feel safe at a cellular level. And when a

716
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 2: cell feels safe, it will expand and grow and thrive

717
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 2: and it'll maintain itself. And when a cell feels like

718
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 2: the environment around it is hostile, whether it's because of

719
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 2: self hate or whether it's because of a lack of nutrients,

720
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,399
Speaker 2: or because you're overexercising or under exercising, then they don't

721
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 2: feel safe, and then they don't do their job right.

722
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 2: So when your body is in that place, your energy

723
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 2: field gets bigger and stronger. And we can even measure

724
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 2: that at the science clinic. We measure brain voltage and

725
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 2: people will increase their brain voltage. And when that happens,

726
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 2: suddenly that injury that you've had that won't heal, it heals.

727
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 2: The cancer that you have can shrink just from doing

728
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 2: meditation right. Because if there's conscious or unconscious loathing around

729
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 2: a part of your body, like oh, you don't like

730
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,760
Speaker 2: your love handles, right, they're probably not going to go away.

731
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 2: In fact, they'll probably get bigger, right because they don't

732
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 2: feel safe. So this deep loving of your body of

733
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 2: your tissues. And I was working with a teenager recently

734
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 2: and she said, you know, some of my friends don't

735
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 2: like their bodies, and yeah, and they think they're fat,

736
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 2: or they think they're thin, or they don't like their

737
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 2: nose or whatever. And so I thought about it a lot,

738
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 2: and I realized I really like my body because it

739
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 2: can do all these amazing things. And I was like,

740
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 2: that is the most enlightened, cool thing I've ever heard

741
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 2: from a teenager, right, because if you have that self

742
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 2: love for your tissues, even if they're not working right.

743
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 2: And I say this as a guy who was three

744
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 2: hundred pounds with like arthritis and a knee that I

745
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 2: couldn't trust because it would just like it would just

746
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 2: fold in the middle of the walk, you know, I

747
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 2: would fall over, like I was such a rack. And

748
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 2: to be able to go through and forgive yourself that's

749
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 2: actually the hardest forgiveness. And you can run the reset

750
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 2: process on a part of your body that you have

751
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 2: an issue with, you can run the reset process on

752
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 2: your entire body, and the feelings of not being enough,

753
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 2: not being good enough, all of those things you can

754
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 2: just like go of so you're just at peace and

755
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 2: things are as they are, and you don't have to

756
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 2: have an emotional reaction everything, and that allows you to

757
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,760
Speaker 2: have so much more energy for your spirit.

758
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: When that spiritual lacking is draining all your energy, you

759
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: don't have the energy to pick the right foods and

760
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: to do the workout, and to put into your creative

761
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: processes or creative endeavors that you have going on. And

762
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: I want to dive into a couple of things which

763
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: I thought, really I'm glad you talked about this in

764
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: the book because I think the challenges, as we know

765
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: with health and wellness, there's always a new fad, a

766
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: new trend, a new kind of thing that comes up

767
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 1: and everyone gets behind it, and then afterwards a few

768
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: years later we realized that there was more research to

769
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 1: I think one of those big areas is around There's

770
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: two areas in the book that you cover really well

771
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 1: that I want to dive into. One is around where

772
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: we get our protein. We know protein's important. I mean,

773
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: remind us how much protein we need to get every day,

774
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: Like good protein you.

775
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 2: Need between zero point eight and one gram of protein

776
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 2: per pound of body weight. So I weigh two hundred

777
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 2: pounds and I'm about seven percent body fat, and that

778
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 2: means I need about two hundred grams of protein fat. Yeah,

779
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 2: that's ridiculous. Yeah, as a guy who is the fat

780
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 2: computer hacker from the first Durassic Park, it's totally ridiculous.

781
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 2: And in order to do that, if you're obese like

782
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 2: I was, you might say, well, if I weigh three

783
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 2: hundred pounds, I had one hundred pounds of fat, you

784
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 2: really only need two hundred grams of protein. You can

785
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 2: subtract the extra fat from the number, but two hundred

786
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 2: grams of protein. It's a lot, and protein isn't all

787
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 2: the same, and this is something.

788
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 1: That that's what Yeah.

789
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, the big food companies are trying to tell us

790
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 2: cricket protein or gluten is protein. There's a company making

791
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 2: keto cookies that are all protein. They're just gluten and

792
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 2: canola oil. That is not food. So a while ago,

793
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 2: the story was, oh, all calories are the same, so

794
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 2: you can drink this, you know, hyproctose corn STARp. It's

795
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 2: just calories. As long as you keep your calories low.

796
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 2: You can drink a diet coke and a Snicker's bar.

797
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 2: They councel each other's out. It doesn't work like that.

798
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 2: Protein's the same way. So different proteins send different signals

799
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 2: to the body. And there's something called amino acid availability score,

800
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 2: and it turns out that animal proteins score much higher

801
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 2: than plant based proteins. And I say this as a

802
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 2: former vegan, a former raw vegan, and you just cannot

803
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 2: get enough protein from plants unless you're doing heavy industrial

804
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 2: processing of the plants, and that comes out of cost.

805
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,760
Speaker 2: But even then, the highest quality of plant based protein

806
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 2: powders don't hold a candle to dairy protein, which is vegetarian,

807
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 2: or egg protein which is vegetarian or sort of. The

808
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 2: king of proteins is beef or buffalo or bison. As

809
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,320
Speaker 2: a vegan, I had a problem with this because vegan.

810
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 2: I was in Tibet at a monastery, and Tibetan monks

811
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 2: love to argue. They're trained since they're about eight years old.

812
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 2: They have an eight year old sitting on the ground

813
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 2: surrounded by older kids standing up, all arguing at the

814
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 2: same time, doing these like aggressive things, and it's to

815
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 2: teach you to be calm in the face of arguments

816
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 2: so that you can still be at piece. And it's

817
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 2: beautiful to watch. So I knew this and so I'm

818
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 2: kind of teasing the head lama. I said, well, you

819
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 2: tell me no killing, but you have a yak skin

820
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 2: on your prayer pole, so I think you're a hypocrite.

821
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 2: And he starts laughing and it looks at me. He goes,

822
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 2: one death feeds everyone. I'm like mind blown because I

823
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 2: had been a vegan until I went to Tibet, and

824
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 2: I was like, cannot be a vegan in Tibet because

825
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 2: there's just very little food. And if there's you know,

826
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 2: some yak butter tea, or there's you know a little

827
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 2: bit of meat, you just eat it because there's just

828
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 2: not enough food. So I really thought about it, and

829
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 2: that led me to think about death's per calorie. And

830
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 2: as a guy has built a regenerative farm on Vancouver

831
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 2: Island and raised all of my own animals for most

832
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 2: of the last eight years, I will tell you that

833
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 2: a cow will feed you for an entire year, and

834
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 2: if it's grass fed and from a local farmer, no

835
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 2: other animal died unless the cow stepped on a frog.

836
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 2: I mean, it is literally one death, and if the

837
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 2: cow was treated with respect and ethically, then you are

838
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 2: killing fewer animals than an industrial plant. Protein, because when

839
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 2: they do those, the tractor comes through and it chops

840
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 2: up every creature that's there, including the bunnies and the

841
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 2: mice and the butterflies and all the ugly ones like

842
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,760
Speaker 2: worms that no one likes that are important for life.

843
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 2: So I feel really clean about it. But the most

844
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 2: important thing that I can say if you choose to

845
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 2: eat animal protein, which I do, is that practice gratitude

846
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 2: before you eat. I believe, because of my shamanic training,

847
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 2: because of all the spiritual work that I do, that humans,

848
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 2: our energetic field, as a species, made a sacred agreement

849
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 2: with the animals that we've domesticated, and they come here

850
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 2: to nourish us in exchange for our gratitude. So if

851
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 2: you're going to eat meat, you practice gratitude because that's

852
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 2: the deal we made. And if you disrespect the animal

853
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 2: and you're eating industrial meat and you're eating it with mindlessly,

854
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 2: I don't think that's a good practice. But I do

855
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 2: think it's ethical to eat meat because I'm killing fewer

856
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 2: lives when I eat beef than when I eat plant

857
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 2: based protein, and since that nourishes me better, which gives

858
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 2: me stronger energy and stronger bones, and it gives me

859
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 2: more energy to put back into the world, including building

860
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 2: better soil via farming of animals. I feel like it's

861
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 2: a good deal and it's within integrity for me.

862
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 1: But even in some animal protein you are recommending, and

863
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: we'll talk about the plant proteins as well, but some

864
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: of the animal proteins you were saying are not as

865
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 1: strong and reliable. I believe you mentioned chicken, turkey. I

866
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 1: think there are a couple of ways in the book

867
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 1: that I saw.

868
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:54,439
Speaker 2: Birds are not that thrown dinosaurs, so they're less like us.

869
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 2: And the fat that's present in birds is similar to

870
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 2: soybean oil. It's a lot of a Mega six that

871
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 2: causes inflammation. And you would know this if you're in

872
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 2: India and you're not feeling well, your grandmother's going to

873
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 2: give you white rice and ghee, which is clarified butter.

874
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 2: In the US, you get saltines and margarine or something,

875
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 2: and it doesn't work very well. But the reason is that, gee,

876
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 2: that saturated fat is very nourishing for you, and that

877
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 2: you actually need that you don't get it from a chicken.

878
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 2: And also one chicken to get the amount of protine

879
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 2: I eat a chicken a day I'm killing three hundred

880
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 2: and sixty five chickens a year. That doesn't feel very good.

881
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 2: In addition to that, real chickens, the kind that I

882
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 2: grow on my farm, take nine months to mature, and

883
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 2: their fat is rich and yellow and full of vitamins,

884
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 2: even though it's not the best kind of fat. But

885
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 2: the chickens they're eating at the store takes six weeks

886
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 2: to get that big because they've been modified and bred

887
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 2: to have these incredibly large breasts, and they're terribly mistreated.

888
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 2: So unless the chicken is pasture raised and a heritage breed,

889
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 2: at which point it's not affordable. They're terribly expensive to raise.

890
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 2: Chickens exist to make eggs. Eggs, if you're not allergic,

891
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 2: are really a good source of fat and protein, And

892
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 2: when you eat eggs, you want to cook the whites

893
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 2: and leave the yolk running, and then you get the

894
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 2: most nutrients that way.

895
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: We talked about the plant protein from an ethical standpoint,

896
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: but even from a nutritional standpoint, I mean, as so,

897
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 1: me and my wife are both plant based, but plant

898
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: protein is like not a big part of our diets

899
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: at all. My wife's like not into eating any of

900
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: the burgers or any of the meat, so it's probably good.

901
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 2: Fake meat is not good.

902
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, explain why, because I think that's slightly the

903
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: challenge for a lot of people who try and make

904
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 1: that switch, and I feel everyone who turns to that

905
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: then goes back because it's not satisfying.

906
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 2: Are you plant based to the exclusion of dairy.

907
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: Yes, I A yea my WiFi we have been for years.

908
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's working for you. But if you're from India,

909
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 2: you probably have the genes that support that much better exactly.

910
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 2: And so if you look at what your great grandmother ate,

911
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 2: that's going to be an indication of what you can handle.

912
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 2: And if you look at you, your skin is really good.

913
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 2: And that's a new usual when most people go vegan

914
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 2: because they eat a lot of industrial processed seed oils.

915
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,240
Speaker 2: So if you're eating a diet that agrees with your body,

916
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 2: and I totally support doing that, then what you want

917
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 2: to do is you want to make sure that you're

918
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 2: getting complete amino acids, and you can do it from

919
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 2: rice and beans. But here's the issue. To get enough protein.

920
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: It's definitely hard. I'm fully like, I'm thinking about it

921
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 1: a lot.

922
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 2: It's like three hundred grams of carbs to get twenty

923
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 2: grams of protein, So then your best bet for plant

924
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 2: based proteins have the highest amino acid score. It's actually

925
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 2: hemp protein with the fat removed because hemp oil isn't

926
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 2: particularly good for you. So then what you end up

927
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 2: doing is saying, Okay, I'm going to do that, and

928
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 2: I feel good. I've also helped a lot of a

929
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 2: lot of vegans. In fact, this is at David Wolf's

930
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 2: Vegan conference, I explain the virtues of ghi, where no

931
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,280
Speaker 2: animals die to make ghi, and ghee helps to escort

932
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 2: the nutrients from plants into the body, so you make

933
00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 2: better use of the plants. So sometimes adding tablespoon gia

934
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 2: day gives you like a healthier skin glow and it

935
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 2: feels more nourishing. And people can choose to do that

936
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 2: or not choose to do that. And people get mad

937
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 2: because I tease vegan. Dude, I was a vegan, Like

938
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 2: it's teasing guys. It's not a disrespectful thing. It's in

939
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 2: my case, it actually harms me. And some things like spinach, kale,

940
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 2: even raspberries and almonds are very high in oxalic acid,

941
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 2: which I write about in the book, and it causes

942
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 2: crystals to form. Seventy percent of kidney stones are from

943
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 2: plant based compounds, not from eating meat and beer thirty

944
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 2: percent or from meat and beer, and so you can

945
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 2: overdo either direction, right, So I want people to say,

946
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 2: choose the right plants when you're plant based, and I

947
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 2: would consider if I was plant based, adding hemp based

948
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 2: protein powder, even though it is a processed food, it's

949
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:52,919
Speaker 2: going to be a processed food that has the best

950
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 2: amino acid score that you can get.

951
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: Absolutely, thank you so much, very useful for everyone who's listening.

952
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: And I wanted to dive into drinking the wrong kind

953
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: of milk because I think milk's been this. You know,

954
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: there's obviously there's been the almond milks and the oat milks,

955
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: and then there's been debate on either side. Walk us

956
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: through milk because I think like that's again I'd love

957
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 1: to hear your side of it, because again it's one

958
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,439
Speaker 1: of the I find all of this so confusing because

959
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: you hear something new come out, everyone gets behind it.

960
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: It works for people, maybe it doesn't work. Stopping dairy

961
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: milk from my diet helped me with my gut, but

962
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: I also don't drink a lot of oat milk or

963
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: almond Mike, that's not really that's not really part of

964
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,280
Speaker 1: my diet. I don't I don't have cereal and stuff

965
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: like that, so I'm not drinking that. But then there's

966
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: a lot of debate on that side of it as well.

967
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 2: There is a lot of yay.

968
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

969
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 2: Dairy milk has been a part of human food for

970
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 2: at least five thousand years, and it's a convenient way

971
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 2: to not kill an animal and to have it continuously

972
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 2: produce fat and protein, which are the hard things for

973
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 2: humans to get enough of because carbs are relatively abundant

974
00:46:55,480 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 2: in nature. So what do you do? Well, while you

975
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 2: would just drink milk, but the milk we would drink

976
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 2: was from a breed of cows that makes a two

977
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 2: milk and they ate grass and that works well with

978
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 2: our biology. The kind of milk that you get now

979
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 2: is from cows that are bread to eat grain and

980
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 2: corn and soy, and that milk has the wrong kind

981
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 2: of fat and it has a kind of protein called

982
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 2: a one protein that's very inflammatory. So a lot of

983
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 2: people who can't drink milk, which include me, because it

984
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 2: messes up my gut roilings. It just makes it makes

985
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 2: me stupid. Actually, my brain swells up from it.

986
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: I get a lot of mucause. I used to get

987
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,919
Speaker 1: throat like I used to get more throat infections like

988
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: me too.

989
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 2: It's very similar. So sometimes you can handle a two milk,

990
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 2: but raw a too milk is how we used to

991
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,760
Speaker 2: drink it. And in many states it's still illegal. And

992
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 2: why the government thinks it has a right to tell

993
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 2: you what you're allowed to eat, I don't know. They

994
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 2: don't have that right, so it doesn't matter if they

995
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 2: make it illegal. They didn't have the right to make

996
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 2: it illegal. So therefore it's not illegal in the world

997
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 2: that I live in. Then again, if you're selling it,

998
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 2: they might still try to arrest you. Then you gotta

999
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 2: go to court. But here's the deal. Raw milk from

1000
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,439
Speaker 2: many people is very very healing, and for some people

1001
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 2: weigh protein, especially if you're vegetarian but not vegan. It's

1002
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 2: a source just get grass fed way protein because the

1003
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,280
Speaker 2: animals are treated better and because it's a higher quality

1004
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 2: nutritional product. But let's assume you're not going to drink

1005
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 2: cow's milk, because for a lot of people it just

1006
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 2: doesn't work, including me, I don't touch it. Butter and

1007
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 2: ghee usually are acceptable, especially gee won't trigger allergies and

1008
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 2: mucous like that for almost anyone. Well, what about the

1009
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 2: fake milks? Right, so these are all industrial products unless

1010
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 2: you make it yourself. And what they figured out with

1011
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 2: almond milk was, oh, we can take leftover parts of

1012
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 2: almonds and you know, the ones that are broken and unsightly,

1013
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 2: and we can use those to make milk. And it's

1014
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 2: just a few almonds and some canola oil and some

1015
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 2: high fructose corns arup some flavorings and we blend it

1016
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 2: up and we sell it for like eight dollars as

1017
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 2: a health food product. It's not a health food product.

1018
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 2: So almond milk is high in phytic acid that sucks

1019
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 2: minerals out of your bones. You have to take more minerals.

1020
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,879
Speaker 2: And it's also high in oxalates, which are the things

1021
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 2: that are causing kidney stones and things that are causing

1022
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 2: gout and joint pain when you wake up. Even if

1023
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 2: you have really bad skin and you're eating a ton

1024
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 2: of these high ox late foods like almond milk and

1025
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 2: kale smoothies and all this can be why because it's

1026
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 2: making tiny razor sharp calcium oxolate crystals in your skin

1027
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 2: that are coming out. So I don't recommend almond milk. Also,

1028
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 2: if you're a vegan. For animals, the number of bees

1029
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 2: about a third of all bees dye pollinating almonds every year, Like,

1030
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 2: it is not a particularly clean product. So then we say, well,

1031
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 2: oat milk, okay, that is the biggest scam on the

1032
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 2: planet right now. It raises your blood sugar as much

1033
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 2: as drinking a coke. It is not a hell food,

1034
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 2: and it usually has glyphosate and it's high and phidic

1035
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 2: acid that sucks minerals out of your body. And I

1036
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:48,439
Speaker 2: know you might not like hearing this, but do the math.

1037
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 2: There's a tablespoon of oats blended into a bunch of

1038
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 2: water and you spent six bucks on that, Like, are

1039
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 2: you dumb? Right? It's not a good move, right, So

1040
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 2: what should you drink? There's two kinds of milk that

1041
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 2: are okay. One of them is macadamian milk, which is

1042
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,399
Speaker 2: really expensive and you have to make it yourself because

1043
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 2: macadamias have the right kinds of oil in them. But

1044
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,720
Speaker 2: the other one that's abundant and healthy is coconut milk.

1045
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 2: So if you're going to do it, use coconut.

1046
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: Is the worst tasting one.

1047
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 2: I know, right, yeah, it is the worst tasting one.

1048
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 2: But here's the problem though, If you say, Okay, I

1049
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 2: don't like the taste of coconut milk, and I'm with

1050
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 2: you on that, so I'm going.

1051
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 1: To I don't drink any milk.

1052
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,439
Speaker 2: But yes, yeah, that's really the key. You don't need

1053
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 2: to drink a plant milk. It's a made up product

1054
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 2: that you don't have a need for. But if you

1055
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 2: say I'm going to do one of these other things,

1056
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 2: you're spending a lot of money, you're getting anti nutrients,

1057
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 2: you're getting mostly water, and you're usually getting a toxic burden.

1058
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 2: So like, why am I doing this again? The thing

1059
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 2: that milk has that's most important is it has protein,

1060
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 2: and the second most important is it has good fats.

1061
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 2: When you have a replacement milk, even coconut milk, there

1062
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,959
Speaker 2: is no protein. So the coconut yogurt you like, it

1063
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 2: doesn't work because it doesn't have protein. So you have

1064
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 2: to take that and addway protein or add scoops of

1065
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 2: maybe hemp protein if you're doing plant based, but you've

1066
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 2: got to add a whole bunch of protein to it,

1067
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 2: because normal yogurt has that. Most people tolerate grass fed

1068
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 2: yogurt pretty well. I still don't. I can't touch cow's

1069
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 2: milk unless it's ghee for the most part, or I

1070
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 2: could do some butter. But if I was to have,

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00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 2: you know, two tablespoons of regular milk, it messes me up.

1072
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 2: My gut's wrong, it's just not right. So that's an

1073
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 2: immune response. So I just want to tell you're not

1074
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 2: getting protein in your plant milks, and you're getting stuff

1075
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 2: you don't want in your plant milks, so just don't

1076
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 2: do it.

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00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: You've mentioned canola oil a few terms as well, and

1078
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: I feel like oil's has been obviously in the biohacking world.

1079
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: It's been known for a while, but I think it's

1080
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 1: finally coming into like the forefront of checking the back

1081
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 1: of something and going, oh my gosh, wow, this is

1082
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: canola oil, palm oil. You know, millions of different oils

1083
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 1: walk us through that, because I think that's kind of

1084
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: still for the majority of people, like an under understood area,

1085
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 1: like they're just not aware. Unaware is probably the right word.

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00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, we're unaware. We've been taught first calories, it

1087
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,800
Speaker 2: wouldn't matter. And it turns out, well, calories do entirely

1088
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 2: different things. So we toss that out from most people

1089
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 2: have understood that's different. And then we say, okay, well,

1090
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 2: it's how much fat are you eating? But who would

1091
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 2: imagine that different fats do different things in the body. Oh,

1092
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 2: my gosh, you mean the kind of fat matters? Oh,

1093
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 2: in different proteins. So even saying fat, carbs, and protein,

1094
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 2: it doesn't mean anything unless you know what it is.

1095
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 2: So we zoom in on fat. Well, it turns out

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00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 2: omega six fats, which is canola, corn, soybeans, safflour, even

1097
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 2: grape seed oil. Those are fats that when they enter

1098
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 2: the body, they slow your metabolism and they cause inflammation

1099
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 2: because they're unstable fats. They're called pollen saturated fats. And

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00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 2: when you eat saturated fats things like coconut oil or

1101
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 2: butter or ghee, or most animal fats from like sheep

1102
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,879
Speaker 2: or something, or from cows, but not from chickens, then

1103
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 2: you end up saying, oh, the saturated fats they can't

1104
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,879
Speaker 2: oxidize because they're stable. So you eat those and they

1105
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 2: stimulate your metabolism and they allow your body to make

1106
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 2: testosterone and to make other hormones that your body needs,

1107
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 2: and to make stable sell membranes. So we understand the

1108
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 2: biochemistry of this, but the food companies are saying, well,

1109
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 2: it's cheaper to do cannol oil, so let's fry our

1110
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 2: French fries in those canola oil, and it's cousins there.

1111
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,399
Speaker 2: They are a major cause of diabetes in cancer which

1112
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 2: are skyrocketing because they're unstable, especially in they're heated a lot.

1113
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 1: And they're pretty much in every packaged good.

1114
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 2: They are. But change is coming. So before about the

1115
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 2: nineteen seventies, all French fries are made with beef tallow

1116
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 2: because it's a very stable oil that's fat from cows.

1117
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 2: McDonald's that's what they use, and then they switch to

1118
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 2: these seed oils and then all the diseases went through

1119
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 2: the roof. So we have a problem. Food needs to

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Speaker 2: be affordable for everyone. One of the companies that I've

1121
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 2: invested in and then I'm backing that I'm most excited

1122
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,879
Speaker 2: about is called zero Acre Farms, and I don't work

1123
00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 2: for them. I did put a small amount of money

1124
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 2: in them, but it's because of the mission they find

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00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 2: a way to use fermentation to make an oil that

1126
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 2: is monounsaturated like olive oil that is stable for frying

1127
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 2: at twenty five percent the cost of canola oil for

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00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 2: a restaurant, and they're scaling up to get to that

1129
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 2: price point. But what it's called zero acre because it'll

1130
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 2: remove millions of acres of corn and so from being

1131
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 2: grown to squeeze oil out of them. And they can

1132
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 2: take sugar cane, just the entire sugar cane, not sugar,

1133
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 2: and they can ferment it and make a healthy, edible

1134
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 2: oil for humans. And this is going to change the

1135
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 2: world's metabolism. It's a huge thing. So in the meantime,

1136
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,479
Speaker 2: you can go to a place as duck fat fries

1137
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 2: or talofries, which you wouldn't eat, or you don't eat fries.

1138
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 2: Don't eat fried food at restaurants is a great rule

1139
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 2: to live longer. And don't eat the salad dressing either.

1140
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 2: Tell them I want real olive oil that's not cut

1141
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 2: with canola oil, and I want vinegar or lemon juice.

1142
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 2: And you do that, just those two things, nothing fried,

1143
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:55,399
Speaker 2: and do that, and all of a sudden you find

1144
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 2: you lose weight, your brain is focused, and your body

1145
00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 2: makes more hormones.

1146
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 1: It's that big of a de I'm so glad you

1147
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:05,280
Speaker 1: raised that because that's the It's such a tiny, simple change,

1148
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: but it could save you from so many different things.

1149
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 1: Like I switched. Probably it might have been a year now,

1150
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 1: but I traveled a lot this year on tour, and

1151
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 1: that was hard because my diet on tour was not

1152
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: as easy to maintain because I was in different cities

1153
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: every day and I didn't have a chef. It was

1154
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 1: traveling with me or anything like that. And when I'm

1155
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 1: back here, I've been eating like a whole Foods dyer,

1156
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: only eating plants, not eating anything out of packages, you know,

1157
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 1: not eating pretty much no package food whatsoever. Maybe now

1158
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: and again, and like that in and of itself has transferred.

1159
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 1: I used to love a bag of chips, right even

1160
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 1: if they were like the healthiest chips that I could

1161
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 1: possibly find. I love a bag of chips. I love

1162
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 1: you know, I love a little bit of crackers, biscuits, whatever,

1163
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 1: any of this kind of stuff nick knacks and just

1164
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 1: taking out packaged foods is had a massive impact on

1165
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: how I feel.

1166
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 2: It's kind of life changing to do that. And I

1167
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 2: was I missed an oil that should get a shout out.

1168
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 2: It's palm oil. Yeah, so palm oil is saturated and

1169
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 2: I would much rather eat something cooked in palm oil

1170
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 2: than canola oil. The issue with palm oil is mostly environmental,

1171
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 2: so there's deforestation and rank tanks and things like that.

1172
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 2: But if you are at the store and you want

1173
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 2: to buy some chips or crisps or whatever.

1174
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, crisp is what I would have called it. I've

1175
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: adapted bag of chips. We'd call it a bag of

1176
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: crisps bag in London.

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00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 2: Yes, so you want to eat those, look for something

1178
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 2: that's cooked in coconut oil or palm oil. And when

1179
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 2: you do that, you're going to be much healthier, and

1180
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 2: they're going to taste better and they're going to be

1181
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 2: more satisfying because when you eat those bad oils, the

1182
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 2: Omega six oils, they make you hungry really quickly because

1183
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 2: your body says, I got to deal with all this inflammation,

1184
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 2: have some sugar. So all of a sudden, you ate

1185
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 2: a chip that felt good. And I don't generally eat

1186
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 2: stuff like that. Maybe at a barbecue or something, I'll

1187
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:50,360
Speaker 2: bring a bag of those.

1188
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm not perfect. Yeah, And Dave, I

1189
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,240
Speaker 1: want to thank you for doing all this research, because

1190
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,359
Speaker 1: you know, as I've got older and I'm thirty six now,

1191
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 1: and as I get older, every single year, my health

1192
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: goes up and up and up on the priority list.

1193
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: And I think for me it's been so challenging because

1194
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,320
Speaker 1: I grew up I would say with no health education.

1195
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: I'm benefited by having a wife who's very disciplined and

1196
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: focused and understands more. I'm grateful to have my podcast

1197
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: where I get to sit down with incredible people like you,

1198
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: and I get introduced to books like yours that I

1199
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 1: have over the years on longevity and now smarter, not harder,

1200
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 1: And to me, I'm just like, I want to get

1201
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: this right, to make getting older easier, right, like to

1202
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 1: make getting older like your goals.

1203
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 2: Your goals suck.

1204
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: Oh sorry, that's a bad goal.

1205
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 2: I want to make. I want to make getting older easier.

1206
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 2: I want to stop getting old. That's I want to

1207
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 2: stay how I am now or better every single.

1208
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 1: There you go.

1209
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 2: It isn't a different vision. It feels different. We have

1210
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 2: it so built in that we're going to get old.

1211
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 2: We are living in a world today where you can

1212
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 2: measure as twenty years younger than your calendar age.

1213
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 1: I want that. So you want that.

1214
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 2: You don't have to get old, right, you might age,

1215
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 2: but the getting old thing, that's that's what we did

1216
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 2: in the.

1217
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: Seventy Yeah, it made me happy. I was. I was.

1218
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 1: I've been playing a lot of pickleball and that's been

1219
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 1: like my form of exercise that I love and I

1220
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 1: enjoy and it's it's it's start and stop, it's fast,

1221
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 1: it's competitive. I love every part of it. And I

1222
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 1: just got beat by a seventy year old a couple

1223
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, and I loved it because I just

1224
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 1: I was like, I want to be like you. When

1225
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 1: I was like, it's double.

1226
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 2: Wiring, it destroyed me. One person can do that, and

1227
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 2: that brings up something that that's actually really important. Please

1228
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 2: learning from our elders. The reason I can do all

1229
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 2: this biohacking is I was so desperate for my health

1230
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 2: in my twenties. I started running an anti aging longevity

1231
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 2: nonprofit group near Stanford University. So I was learning how

1232
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 2: to maintain my health from people in their eighties who

1233
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 2: could run circles around me, like that's possible. I saw it,

1234
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 2: and I saw it in the nineties and if they

1235
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 2: could do it back then. We can do so much

1236
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 2: better now.

1237
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 1: You don't you calling me out that. I like you. You'recome,

1238
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 1: You're allowed to. Yeah.

1239
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 2: I like that. That's I learned from my elders. You

1240
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 2: learn from the guy in the pickleball court. You can

1241
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 2: be that guy when you're seventy. Yeah, and what's really

1242
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 2: going to happen on your seventies? You can be that guy.

1243
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 2: But look and feel like you do now. And we're

1244
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 2: building this world for all of us. And it's really

1245
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 2: important because the birth rate in all of developed nations

1246
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 2: is so low right now, we're not replacing our population,

1247
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 2: which means it's our job to be strong and young forever.

1248
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 1: Well said. Well said. The book is called Smarter Not

1249
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 1: Harder by Dave ass Read the Biohcker's Guide to Getting

1250
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 1: the Body and Mind you want. I highly highly recommend

1251
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 1: that you grab a copy of this book. I we

1252
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 1: have just skimmed over some of the things that I

1253
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: found interesting, some of the things that I felt were

1254
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 1: front of mind for me. I know a lot of

1255
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 1: you been asking questions about these things. I see tons

1256
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 1: of videos on TikTok sharing all sorts of advice. I

1257
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 1: felt it was great to dive into it with. Dave.

1258
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 1: Please go and grab a copy, go and read it

1259
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 1: with your friends. Figure out that one thing that you're

1260
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 1: going to focus on. Remember, you don't need to try

1261
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 1: and do all of this. Pick that one area that

1262
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 1: you want to solve, master it, move on to the next.

1263
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 1: I promise you that, as much as it sounds hard

1264
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 1: and complicated and difficult, once you start seeing a win

1265
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 1: in one area, it's going to have that domino effect.

1266
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 1: So go and grab it.

1267
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:13,919
Speaker 2: Dave.

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01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for always coming on and being

1269
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 1: such a You're such a you are. You are an elder, truly,

1270
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 1: but you don't look like one. You know, you know

1271
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 1: you don't. You don't feel like one, which is amazing.

1272
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 1: And I'm very grateful that I get to have these

1273
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 1: conversations with you because I always come away more inspired

1274
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 1: and uplifted, and my goals get bigger and bolder and better.

1275
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 1: So I'm glad that you're not letting me settle. So

1276
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 1: thank you for not letting me settle. I appreciate it.

1277
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 2: You're so welcome. I mean, I mean, I appreciate your

1278
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 2: work so much. You are inspiring millions of people to

1279
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 2: be better, and I see it every day online and

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